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Speaker 2: We got someone or something crawling around out here?

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Speaker 3: Does a legend walk among us working in the forests

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of our world?

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Speaker 4: Did you see what it was?

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Speaker 5: Was it a person or an animal?

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Speaker 2: Or I can't go Oh, I know that my thunder

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light came on and I just happened to glen and

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see this thing running across the yard.

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Speaker 1: A good fight man or something.

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Speaker 2: It looks like a man.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 3: For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators,

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and witnesses trying to gain insight and proof around the

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existence of this mysterious entity.

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Speaker 5: Hello, get somebody out here.

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Speaker 4: What's going to announce there?

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Speaker 2: To AVECTA about six?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, easy announce there?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm walking right out.

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Speaker 7: Oh, okay, hand on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, got you bigger?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's you doing your yarn?

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Speaker 5: Every time I see that little with Henry May at

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the end. It always makes me happy. I don't know, yeah,

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it just does. Yet we want welcome to the Sasquatch

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Speaker 8: It is It is vance, guys.

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Speaker 5: We've got a grade show tonight, our friend Alex Pettikov

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joining us again. Appalachian Bigfoot files all over small town

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Monsters beyond the Trail we name it. She's there and

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we're glad to have him with us tonight. But before

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Speaker 8: So we got a lot going on, guys.

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Speaker 9: Oh boy, thanks boy.

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Speaker 5: Of promotion housekeeping notes. That's all I got. We're going

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Speaker 5: Excited about tonight. So I'm gonna throw it to let

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Speaker 4: Oh well, I mean, I have a very controversial question

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for Alex. Alex, I know you've been up here in

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our area or neck to the Woods. You love Old

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would you rather have Old Forge Pizza or West Virginia

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like pizza more. I think pizzas a better overall, you know,

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of the bland and mines or something. So it just

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makes it that much more satisfying. But yeah, the pepper

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West Virginia. I love you to compromise. I will say,

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which is like a pizza place, and the pizza is amazing,

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the eastern part of West Virginia. Mythical Pizza. He would

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of the hub. Yeah, it's not an hour east. It's

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actually very close to a town called the Hancock, Maryland.

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tunnels there in Breezewood, Pennsylvania. At less than an hour

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from that area. So yeah, it's a little bit on

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the further kind of panhandle of West Virginia. But yeah,

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it's a great spot. So let's let's get right into

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the into the main topic here. I mean, I'm gonna

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tell you the the West Virginia episodes absolutely blew my mind. Yeah,

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particularly particularly with the audio evidence that you got that

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that you guys weren't initially aware of, which is you know,

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which is really amazing. Could you tell us a little

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bit about some of the experiences you had down there

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in West Virginia. Yeah, with those episodes absolutely so. Back

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in April, early April my fault, which you guys know, Matt,

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you certainly know. We've been out with those guys Shan

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through Brian Garvey of Brian and chuwiego hiking, Mike Lucci

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of the cr C, of my brother. You know, we

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Virginia and we kind of did like a week just

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area within the mononga Hala National Forest in West Virginia.

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in technically behind a National Forest gate. It's a whole

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whole other story, but it kind of lessens the chances

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of human contamination because we went into an unlocked gate

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and were, unbeknownst to us, locked behind the gate. So well,

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we spend a night there and we had set up

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a tree stand. I have this like a mobile, not sorry,

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not a mobile, but a it is mobile, but it's

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a saddle hunting tree stand, which allows me to deploy

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there's this really weird scream as we're as we're just talking,

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you know, I was having my brother film me just

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I was spraying the tree stand with some like scent remover,

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you know for hunting, just you know, kind of going

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through the all process, and there's this weird, like ah

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kind of scream in the background, and I kind of

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was there. Everyone was either around us, and there was

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at it who do audio stuff and they're like, well,

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that's that's unusual. You know. They can't say one hundred

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percent what it is. They don't know what made the sound,

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screaming not that far from us. None of us did it.

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you know, and in the previous frames to that clip

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where that was captured, everyone is accounted for. It is

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the trail appellation big Foot Trail. I know it's a

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until way after. And then that night at that same location,

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we had multiple bodio recorders deployed in different locations, and

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was found there, which was just like these knocks, you know,

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kind of typical knocks. It almost sounds like there was

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some that were closer and some that were further and

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crashing sound very typical, nothing extraordinary, you know, I would say,

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nothing with like mind blowing, but in conjunction with the scream,

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you know, it's it's all very included. There's there's there's Brian,

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of course, he's awesome. Brian don't know what I'm talking about.

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at that location a second night, because we had then

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found out that morning that we were locked in this gate,

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we had to just leave the area because technically we

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weren't supposed to be there just yet, because the National

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a remote hunting camp further up had opened it during

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the day, and you know, we kind of exploited that.

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it happens, right, It's like it was, Yeah, it does. Unfortunately,

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we've dealt with a you know, we have kind of

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a curse where this group of guys like this is

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the third April in a row where we've been trying

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to get to locations then that gates have prevented us

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from doing so, or we've got locked behind the gate,

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had incidents. So that's a bit of funny story. But anyway,

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just to get back to the topic, Yeah, it was weird.

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I mean, I can't say anything definitive about it. And then,

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as I mentioned, a few nights later, we were at

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a different location, maybe less than forty miles south of there,

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also in the kind of mononga Hala National Forest and

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Charles Kimbro, who actually does a lot of audio research.

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He develops microphones and he does a lot of great work.

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He had captured this knock three four in the morning.

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It was just a very clean, crisp There's no other

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sound going on. So, you know, it's one of the

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things you can't really you can't prove any one way

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or another way. I guess it's just kind of a

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it's intriguing you kind of it's tantalizing, as I guess.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And the one thing, if I if I recall correctly,

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is the knock that was recorded on the second site

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was very similar, uh to the one that you guys

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recorded at Dolly Sides. It did it did sound, but

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it had that same kind of like hollow kind of

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baseball bat sound characteristic to it. You know, I've heard

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knocks like that before. Can I say those are bigfoot?

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but I've heard in a couple of other places, like

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in Alaska and up here in New Hampshire. So it's

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just one of those things that once we had realized,

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one location just for for one night. Moving on, you know,

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we're we're camping, we're hiking, We're we're staying in some

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what we're going to do, and based off of that

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not we said, yeah, we're definitely staying in this location

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another night, just because hey, maybe lightning will strike twice.

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and you know, it was just turned into a bit

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of a yeah, a disaster I think would be the

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right word for it. Yep, but it was still I

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mean that again, that whole series, there's three particular episodes

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dealing with West Virginia correct or Yeah. So so it's

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a bit confusing. So this was technically part of the

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just we'd filmed so much. I was like, this had

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be three hours long. We did so much, so I

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had planned initially to do two episodes. I was like, oh, yeah,

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I'll just I'll split it up. You know, it'll be

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first half the second half, but then we ended up

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also getting so much that I'm like maybe three because

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parts that I think are unimportant. Like in the second part,

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we explored this really intricate cave system, this like Liver

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River Cave, and I thought that could be a whole

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thing under itself. So at the same time I was

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filming this, which is Beyond the Trails, is a much

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more kind of investigative, boots on the ground sort of

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thing where it's just it's a lot raw, more raw

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than you know, more interview based stuff. But the other

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stuff I was working on was appalation Bigfoot Files, which

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is you know, as you get You and Sean have

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both been in that series. I think, Matt, you've been

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in three episodes I think of that series now, which

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is I think the most. Maybe Mike Lucci might be

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in three as well. But you're up there for like

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one of the most featured guests. And that's so much more. Yeah,

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that's much more just interview based, and it's about you know,

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covers the Appalachian Mountains basically from from north to south

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and just interesting cases. You know. We just released one

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yesterday about the the infamous Vermont Trail camera photo when

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I interviewed the guy who got that, and you know

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that's now you're being a five pound owl, the giant,

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and that one's been around for a long time, right

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twenty ten. But every episode of the Appalachian big Foot

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Files covers a different section of the mountains. So you know,

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we did the episode that both Sean and you have

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been in, Matt was the one about that Allegheny Plateau

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area where you guys are research, which falls into the

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Appalachian Mountains. Whereas the other episode about the Suskin Screamer,

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which I love that legend amazing, is about northeast Pennsylvania

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the Pogonos. And then we had an episode that was

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that you actually featured in two, which was about the

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northern New Jersey and you know up too High Point

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State Park because that brush us up right against the

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areas that you go into. So that's in my mind.

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I have a map I'm trying to make of covering

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all the different areas and kind of make them interlocking.

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And I'm just starting to get up into my neck

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of the woods in New England. But so far we've

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had episodes dealing with western North Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia

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two in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Massachusetts featuring John Wilkes Encounter,

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which is a lot of favorite encounters of all time.

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John Wilke's a great guy, so it's just an awesome episode.

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So yeah, that's kind of that series. But yeah, it

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was a little confusing because those three episodes that beyond

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the Trail were also kind of appalation Bigfoot Trail. So

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I don't know, maybe it's a little confusing, but that's

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that's my fault, not at all. I mean, every every

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episode really drew us in, but you kind of led us.

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And now to our next point, which is about the

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new episode that premiered yesterday with the Vermont photo. Can

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you tell us a little bit more about that. Yeah,

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so recently I got in touch with Frank Sazinski, who

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is as a friend of Steve Calls. And I've known

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of Frank, I've just never met him, even though you know,

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we go to the Whitehall Bigfoot Fessel every year, which

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is one of my favorite events. It's kind of the

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missing the missing one, the main one up here at

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the New England Northeast area draws people from the whole region.

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You know the Whitehall story obviously as a classic a

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bear road involving all the law enforcement. I'm sure Matt

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you know about that story.

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Speaker 8: Of course.

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Speaker 4: So that whole area I always loved. Whitehall is only

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a few hours from me in New Hampshire, but you know,

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you have that part of Vermont right there, And what's

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so interesting about Whitehall in that area is it's it's

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basically right on one side in the foothills of the

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Green Mountains of Vermont, which go through the entirety of

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the state, from the southern part where you have the

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Bennington Triangle and lots of famous encounters, to the northern

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part which goes all the way up to the border

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with Canada. And one of the first people I ever

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interviewed back in the day, over ten years ago, a

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big fool witness had an encounter in right along the

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Canadian border in the northern part of the Green Mountains.

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And then on the other side of Whitehall you have

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the Adirondacks. So there's so many great reports just in

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that area. It's amazing. So yeah, I'd got to make

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a long story short. I had gotten in touch with

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Frank Sizinski and I went out to his property and

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interviewed him all about that weird a trail camera picture

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he has, And you know, I thought it was mainly

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just going to be a little segment about him talking

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about the camera and maybe that will be like a

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part of an episode covering the broader Vermont area. But

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he had a lot of stories to tell, so I

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was like, you know what, this might as well be

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its own thing and just let him talk about, you know,

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the first part of the episodes about trail camera photo.

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But then I'd say, like almost, you know, the other half,

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if not more, is about local encounters that he was

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familiar with or he had been told subsequently after the

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photo came out. That kind of made this really interesting

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corroborative hatter in the area. And for whatever reason, there's

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a lot of sightings in that area that include creatures

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going into the water. We're some eating things in the water,

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which hardens me back to a really interesting sighting that

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Paul Bartholomew has told me about. Paul's another fantastic research

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in that area. He talks about these two guys who

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were from Hong Kong. There were kind of local Chinese restaurant,

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and they went fishing and they had seen this monkey

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as they called it, like small ape creature, kind of

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wading through the water part of Lake Champlain. They were

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fishing at it, and to them it wasn't really unusual.

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They you know, in Hong Kong we have prime ates

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running around, so we didn't know they had they had

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him here too. They acted very nonchalant about it, which

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is really funny kind of the cultural connection that they

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had to it. So they didn't I guess they didn't

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understand the significance of their sighting, right. So but it

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fits in again with some of the stuff Frank was

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telling me where he had a friend who had seen

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one of these things, as he described as a there

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was a gorilla in the pond eating lilies. And this

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is all within a few miles of where he got

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that photo. So what I will say about the photo,

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my personal opinion is it's it's rather inconclusive. I think

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it's become almost like a rorshack test, and you just

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see what you want to see. People see an owl,

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you know, and people get really hung up on that,

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and you know, Steve Calls has done, you know, lengked

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the investigations into the photo, and you know, he had

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contacted doctor Bruce mcabee, who's a optical physicist, who said

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he didn't think that it was something close to the

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camera like an acohol. He thought it was something closer

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to the ground. So you know a lot of people

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on watching that video, Yes, you're saying, well, I agree

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with the biologist who said it was.

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Speaker 9: An Now this is a professional I don't agree.

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Speaker 4: That's one professional opinion, right for a biologist, sure, but

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then you have another professional opinion from an optical physicist

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who says that he doesn't think that's the case. I'm

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sure if you take it to a third PhD they

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might have a different opinion. So you know, you got

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to realize there's not like a consensus about one opinion

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Trump's the other. There has to be you know, how

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how much have they examined it, looked into it, that

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kind of stuff. So, yeah, it's a controversial thing. And

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like I said, I think it's conclusive. I wish there

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were more photos, and then it's heated multiple times. That's

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the only day because right now we just have a

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photo from twenty ten that draws I believe that the.

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Speaker 10: Camera was set at sixty seconds per each photo. Yes,

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the photo that was captured, I screenshoted it before I

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listened to any analyzation of what the photo was. What

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I saw was something with very broad shoulders looking directly

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down at the ground. I and I know Bartholomew said that,

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you know there was a juvenile underneath it. I didn't

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see that, but I saw two arms on the ground

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as it's looking at the ground with a conical head.

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Speaker 8: That's exactly what I saw.

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Speaker 10: And I left it at that, And then you know

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when all the other speculation came out, well, you know

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it's it's an owl.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't it's not.

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Speaker 4: I mean, sorry, that's where I kind of go with

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like it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it did kind of go off the rail.

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Speaker 4: See, oh there's a young one. I mean, there's that meat.

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I know, Larry Beans Baxter is always making memes about like,

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oh there's showby the baby, you know, or any photo.

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Inevitably people say, oh there's a young one underneath the

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rights to become a little bit of a being. You

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know how common it is. But a lot of people

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have said with this photo they think that again. Their

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opinion too is you know, that's their opinion. My opinion,

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you know, trying to be as objective as possible is

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just I think it's rather inconclusive. I would much rather

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have more data to work with. But oh, right, too right.

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But my point with the episode was to try to

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show the just the story behind the photo, the location

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where it happened, how it's changed. I mean, it's been

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quite a few years since that photo and then all

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the other stories you know that surrounded it in that area, so.

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Speaker 10: That they always taken in what twenty twelve, Alex twenty ten,

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twenty ten.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's definitely been a while. It was featured heavilyen

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Finding Bigfoot. Of course, it's had some media coverage over

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the years, and you know, Steve did a pretty thorough

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invest stigation. You speak to doctor Bruce Macabee, and you know,

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again people have their opinions about it. I think it's

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it's it's fascinating, but it's just another chapter and kind

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of appalation big Foot Files that talks about a local story.

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And you know, it's funny because a lot of the people,

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like they were saying like it was, especially with the blot,

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like they get really hung up on the spots that

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are found on it. They're like, oh, those spots, you

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know what is? It shows it's And if you watch

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the video, Steve explains that doctor Bruce mctiby says, those

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are actually not white spots.

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Speaker 9: Those are dark spots.

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Speaker 4: Right right now, I get all these angry comments and messages,

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and I'm like, if you just watch the video, it's explained.

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Like I try when I do a video, I try

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to get all the information out that I can. And

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you know, a lot of the questions and like angry

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comments we get are answered if you just pay attention.

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Sometimes the description of the video it says it too,

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but nobody reads the scriptures.

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Speaker 2: I know that that was the point that was brought

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up to that there was a full.

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Speaker 9: Moon and it might have been moonlight that was reflecting.

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Speaker 4: Off of it.

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Speaker 10: Well thanks, they yeah, you know, I understand this is

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all speculation.

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Speaker 4: But there was also there was a discrepancy between some

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of the photos. You know, he was saying that there

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was a coyote that was scared off by this creature,

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and actually there was blam dates and from what I

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understand from Steve's analysis, he said that that time stamps

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are actually not accurate on the actual photo.

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Speaker 2: Oh really.

474
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Speaker 4: Now, I think that there were apples that were in

475
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different spots. So I'm not sure if Frank meant that

476
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,079
was sequentially what happened, or that it was actually just

477
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,319
this was like the the last photo before this photo,

478
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,079
which may have actually been a day apart. But I

479
00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:48,759
think the way he said it made it sound like

480
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:51,119
he was saying this coyote was scared off by something

481
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,559
I don't know. Also, full disclosure, Frank is eighty seven

482
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,079
years old and very hard at hearing. I mean, I

483
00:24:58,079 --> 00:24:59,440
don't know if you could tell in the interview, but

484
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,359
I was outing my questions at him at times. You know,

485
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,480
I had one one person said, you said something to

486
00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:08,079
the effect of, oh, he's not answering your question when

487
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,039
you ask it. I said, bro, he was not hearing

488
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,839
half the stuff I was asking him.

489
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 9: I was trying art see him as a hulkxer though.

490
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,519
Speaker 4: No, I think, if anything, maybe there's some wishful thinking

491
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:22,640
going on. But it was very sincere. He made sure

492
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,799
he was talking about you know, they tried to be

493
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,440
with some money, and like he's like, I don't want

494
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,480
him money, I just want to prove, you know, what happened,

495
00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:31,920
and He's a very earnest guy, and I really like

496
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,799
talking with them. He reminded me almost like my grandfather

497
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,799
in a way exactly it telling the stories like he

498
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,880
knew all these stories. And you know, I had both.

499
00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:45,440
You know, I still have one grandfather, July, who was

500
00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:48,160
there over ninety five years old, and he's the same

501
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,039
kind of way. You tell him about a certain topic

502
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,319
and he'll tell me all the World War Two stories

503
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:54,200
that he knows. So it's you know, it's it's nice

504
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,599
when people are, especially in that age, they still have

505
00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:59,160
they just able to remember all this stuff. For oh,

506
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,680
let me show you my like find her with all the.

507
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,039
Speaker 9: Encounter and it brings them joy to it is it was.

508
00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:05,319
Speaker 7: It was.

509
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 4: It was a really unvisial with him, and I enjoyed talking.

510
00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:11,799
Speaker 7: I I I thought the star of the of the

511
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:15,920
movie or of the video though, was Frank's wife because

512
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,519
like when you hear Frank Frank.

513
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 11: I love that and edits they weren't just such a

514
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,440
real down to her uh and and she was on camera,

515
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,119
but hearing her, uh, it was just so so neat.

516
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 7: It was.

517
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 4: It was the only thing note that that it was

518
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,039
hit me like a punch in the gut was when

519
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:47,759
he talked about the nurse and the nurse's brother having

520
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:53,359
this incredible, incredible game camera photo. And you know what,

521
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,319
we know people like this, Sean. Sean and I both

522
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,799
know people like this that they see something. This can't

523
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,400
be anything. I'm going to delete this, you know, rather

524
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,759
than hey, you know what, let you know that something

525
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,559
or they die. I know that happens.

526
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 8: We had that.

527
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 5: That We were trying to get the game cam photo

528
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,680
for years, right, and he's passed away and we were

529
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,880
never able to get it. And he was adamant that

530
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,960
there was something remarkable on there, and lord knows.

531
00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 8: We'll ever see it.

532
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 5: I mean, to the point is, you know, we've moved

533
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,279
from the film age to the digital age, but how

534
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:34,960
many junk drawers or photograph packages or whatnot to people

535
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:38,039
have lying around that could have something in there that

536
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,519
we never know because you know who look, you know

537
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:43,519
who really goes back and looks at that stuff.

538
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,079
Speaker 9: It's a good woint.

539
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 8: So I mean, it's it's to what we do.

540
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:49,559
Speaker 5: But the one thing I guess I wanted to say

541
00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:51,680
to kind of put a cap on this before we

542
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,200
go to our quick break, is the video was broken

543
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,559
down at the beginning of the episode very well and

544
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,200
for folks that haven't seen before or have had an

545
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:05,880
opportunity to really dive into the back history of that

546
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,079
Vermont photograph, I think you guys did a great job

547
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,720
recapping that, going into it, adding some more you know,

548
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:16,400
exposition to it, and you got Steve there to talk

549
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,720
about it, and you know, you wrap it together nicely.

550
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,720
It's important that we go back and revisit these things.

551
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,519
And you know, alan you talk about people coming in

552
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:28,519
and you know, bit you to complaining because you know

553
00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:30,559
they haven't paid attention and they don't listen.

554
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,519
Speaker 8: It's prevalent to the whole history of Bigfoot.

555
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 5: Is that people if you would go back and actually

556
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,079
read a freaking book or go back and look at

557
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:41,480
some of these videos or old documentaries or even old podcasts,

558
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:44,119
a lot of these things have already been answered or

559
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,920
could be in those but you have to go back

560
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,119
and do.

561
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 8: A little research. And so.

562
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,839
Speaker 5: It's you know, it's important that we go back and

563
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,880
we visit those things. You did a really good job

564
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,960
with the Vermont, with the Vermont footage, and I think

565
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,160
it was absolutely well done.

566
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: It was well done. Yeah, Yeah, it's again I think

567
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240
with Appalachian big fo files, and my goal was to

568
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,319
just you know, being from the Appalachian Mountains and myself.

569
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,559
I mean, I'm here in the northern part in New Hampshire.

570
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:16,599
Even though people get annoyed that I say Appalachians instead

571
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,359
of Apple Lachians. You know, that's another debate for another time.

572
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,359
I love all my Southern people like they're great. You know,

573
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:29,119
you take like North Alabama, North Georgia, compare that to

574
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,279
New Hampshire and Maine. We're like a world of art.

575
00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:33,839
But it's still the same mountain chain and the stories.

576
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,519
If you look at areas where habitat exists on the

577
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,519
East coast, if these things do exist, the Appalation Mountains

578
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:42,079
would probably be the best location, and then you you

579
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:44,039
go up and down the mountain chain. My goal was

580
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,279
just to document some of these stories. Again, that Pennsylvania

581
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:49,799
episode is probably still one of my favorites. Suskin Screaming.

582
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,440
I mean, that story is just so classic, and I

583
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,119
didn't know a whole lot about it until I actually

584
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:57,079
went and did that research into last year and when

585
00:29:57,079 --> 00:29:58,599
I met up with you Matt and took me in

586
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,400
all the locations and at that author Stanley wrote about it,

587
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,000
and that's what I love about it. Every episode you

588
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,759
can watch as a standalone, but while you watch them

589
00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:10,119
all together, they kind of have a little bit more

590
00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:12,839
of a history about certain areas in particular areas.

591
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 8: So yeah, I love it, folks.

592
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 5: We're going to cap it on that.

593
00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 8: We'll be back.

594
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 5: We'll talk a little bit more with Alex Bettakoff right

595
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,920
after this. The big foot bullhorn coming at you. Smoke

596
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,960
him if you got them, shake a leg, whatever idea.

597
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,680
We'll see you back in about eight minutes. A little

598
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:36,160
long this week. You know, Vance gets a little windy.

599
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Speaker 10: Is Madison a bigfoot believing community?

600
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 9: You guys have vibes of people that might go out

601
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,079
there looking for him?

602
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, sir, my man, a little too south for that.

603
00:30:47,519 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 8: Yeah.

604
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 12: And where do you live here?

605
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 8: Yeah?

606
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 10: Big so bigfoot people are aware north, so we're a

607
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,000
little too.

608
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 9: South for that.

609
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

610
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 4: And where's north of us?

611
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:55,559
Speaker 7: Sir?

612
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,359
Speaker 4: You don't have voice here? Oh shit, it's up north?

613
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,799
Speaker 8: And what's up north Woods? Yeah?

614
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 11: Hi?

615
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, now see, sometimes the obvious is not that obvious. Well,

616
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:11,960
happy day to you all. Thanks for listening, whatever you

617
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:15,039
choose to listen, But you can always watch the show

618
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,119
live on YouTube. Just look for Sasquatch Experience. Our logo

619
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,720
is a bigfoot foot print with Sasquatch Experience printed right

620
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:28,319
through the middle of it, and then click and subscribe

621
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,480
and you'll get notifications as to when we are going live. Anyway,

622
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:37,039
speaking of Michael Moore, I know we weren't speaking to

623
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:41,519
Michael Moore, but close here's an interesting story out of

624
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:45,480
the Smoky Mountains. I found it pretty fascinating. Give it

625
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:45,920
a listen.

626
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,359
Speaker 6: Apparently bigfit is starting to come into people's houses in

627
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,039
Smoky Mountains and this story is circulating on TikTok and

628
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,799
one of my followers, actually you submitted, didn't shared it

629
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:58,440
with me, and you have to hear this one. This

630
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,000
happened between Gatlinburg and Cherkey, North Carolina, on a farm

631
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:06,599
that this family had recently purchased within the last few months.

632
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:08,279
Speaker 2: So this lady said.

633
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:12,039
Speaker 6: She first noticed in the barn area one day while

634
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,920
she was out in the barn the set of huge

635
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:19,039
footprints leading from the barn like back into the fore

636
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,799
with and vice versa. She had no explanation what these

637
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:24,920
things were. They were too big to be a human,

638
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:28,480
but she just thought a big bear. It had to

639
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:32,319
be a big bear. Fast forward a few days or weeks,

640
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:35,240
I'm not sure. One day, she and her daughter are

641
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:37,680
home alone and they're up in the attic just doing

642
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,880
some work. So as they're just doing some work upstairs

643
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,559
in the attic, they both hear very heavy footsteps enter

644
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,799
the house, too heavy to be a human, and she

645
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:51,680
immediately thinks this bear has gotten into her house. So

646
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:54,920
she instinctively tells her daughter just to be very quiet,

647
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:57,359
do not make a noise. You know, we're in a

648
00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:59,720
bad spot here. If this bear, you know, comes up

649
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,839
to stay, we can be in bad trouble. So, as

650
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:07,519
the attic door is still open to the downstairs, they

651
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:11,279
both start kind of peeking around trying to see downstairs

652
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:14,599
because they can hear these footsteps. But to her surprise,

653
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,640
it isn't a bear that walks into view. It's a

654
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,000
ginormous bigfoot.

655
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:20,759
Speaker 2: She said.

656
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:23,559
Speaker 6: This thing was covered in a reddish brown hair from

657
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,440
head to toe. It was built like a man, a

658
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:30,200
huge man. But it was a bigfoot. Now, if that

659
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,920
wasn't crazy enough, Just after this huge bigfoot stepped down

660
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,960
to their vision, filled of sight, she said, one that

661
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:44,039
was about four feet tall. The smaller one walked in also,

662
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,160
and at this point they are going into panic mode.

663
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,920
She's trying to tell her daughter just to be quiet.

664
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: They don't want to draw.

665
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 6: Attention to themselves, and they both are witnessing these two

666
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,680
bigfoots walk through their house and they're just kind of

667
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:03,240
out and grunting, making noises walking around.

668
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: After a few minutes, she said.

669
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 6: The biggest one walked back toward the door like it

670
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,000
was going to exit. Then right behind the smaller one

671
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:18,880
come back, but it just happened to stop, like right

672
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,599
in their field of viauty. At this point, both she

673
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:26,280
and her daughter were looking down at this thing and

674
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,239
the little one stopped, and she was just terrified that

675
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,159
this thing was going to look up and see them

676
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:34,840
looking back. But she said it stood there for a

677
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,519
few moments, just looking around, but it never did like

678
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,639
make eye contact with them, and eventually it made its

679
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,599
way out of the house too. They waited about thirty

680
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,920
minutes or so. Then she and her daughter they just

681
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,840
made a run for it.

682
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 9: They didn't hear.

683
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 6: Any other noises. She grabbed her car keys, they run

684
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,320
to the car, and they got out of there. She

685
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:56,559
wasn't a believer in bigfoot at least not until this happened.

686
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:59,639
And the guy who I heard this from said that

687
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:04,280
she had took pictures. There was like muddy footprints on

688
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,159
the porch and she hadn't shared them with him yet.

689
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,159
But she supposedly does have pictures of that.

690
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:14,559
Speaker 2: See it's one of those stories where the witnesses actually

691
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:17,840
had a higher advantage looking down on a big foot,

692
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,679
not looking down in a bad way. I'd be shaken

693
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,840
in my shoes when we come back. It's sweet transvestate

694
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:31,800
from transsexual Transylvania weight. I read that wrong. It's a

695
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,760
camping adventure in Pennsylvania.

696
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,639
Speaker 11: You're listening to the big football horn right here on

697
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:41,519
the Sasquatch experience.

698
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: As anybody ever told you. Hey, nice knockers. If not,

699
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just visit got knockers dot org read about the encounter

700
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,079
that kicked this whole thing off. Plus you can purchase one, two, three,

701
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or more tree Knockers. I'm not sure what you thought

702
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703
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gifts and merchandise two from awesome apparel, ware, and even

704
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705
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706
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to Gwendolyn and Michael herself. Now that you know where

707
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to get some great knockers. They make fun gifts or

708
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accessories for the squatch bag. Just visit Godknockers dot org

709
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again got knockers dot org. Now I've been watching some

710
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of you and you haven't marked it down on your

711
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714
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going to be so many activities and vendors and food

715
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716
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:31,679
Stan Gordon, Steve Coules, Ron Moorhead, doctor Jeff Meldrum, Sean Forker,

717
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Mann Arner and so many more. Just go to PA

718
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Bigfoot Campingadventure dot com. Thanks again for listening to this

719
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,760
edition of the Bigfoot Bullhorn right here on Anomalous Entertainment's

720
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,559
Sasquatch Experience, And as always I'm there we meet again.

721
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 8: Keep your toe in the mind.

722
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 5: I knew I had to pay attention to these bullhorns

723
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,559
a lot closer. Matt, what are you Assi sixteen? I mean,

724
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:05,320
we got to get this figured out. That's not the

725
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,599
good we signed up for there in Pennsylvania. But you

726
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:08,519
know what, no hate here.

727
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 8: We wrought of fun folks.

728
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 5: You're listening to the Sasquatch Experience, Sean Walker, Matt Arner,

729
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,199
Henry Maid, James Baker, who just jumped off Vance Nesbit.

730
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,800
In our guest tonight, Alex Pettikov having a great conversation

731
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,039
with Alex Knight about the Appalachian Bigfoot Files.

732
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 8: And other you know events.

733
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 5: One thing we did I did want to mention here

734
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,960
and Brian from Brian and Chewey Go Hiking that posted

735
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,639
it out about how the Northeast is underrated as far

736
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,280
as squatch in the mountain rages and on forest and go.

737
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,440
And we talked about that for years about how like

738
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:48,760
there's that disproportionate representation of the Pacific Northwest and it's

739
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,800
because I believe, aside from Paul Bartholomew and some others

740
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,880
from that early Paul maybe Stan Gordon from that early

741
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,760
part of the sixties and on, nobody was investigating it

742
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,559
here like they were out there.

743
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:01,679
Speaker 8: Alex what do you think about that.

744
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 4: I agree, I think it's you know, you look at

745
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,519
the states that kind of broke the mold for the

746
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,719
kind of west coasts. The only place you know there

747
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480
used to be people. Peter burn I think he said,

748
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,039
you know, there's no evidence that there would be anything

749
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:18,159
east of the Rockies basically, but you had legend of

750
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,280
Balggie Creek down in the South that kind of broke

751
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,719
the idea that maybe these things are actually east of

752
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,039
the Mississippi. You had Ohio one of those states I

753
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,199
think was always kind of ahead of the curve, Pennsylvania

754
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,679
kind of behind Ohio. Pennsylvania has been pretty known for

755
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,320
a while, whereas like you know, up here in New England,

756
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:40,119
very underrated. Yet we have, you know, some of the

757
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:43,840
earliest and some of the most classic Bigfoot stories out there.

758
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,440
I mean there's you know, as my buddy Jonathan Wilke

759
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,840
will tell you, there was a story from the late

760
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,519
seventeen hundreds in western Massachusetts of constables running into this

761
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:56,960
kind of sleeping ape creature. At that point, it wasn't

762
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,360
even the United States, it was still British column So

763
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:02,599
you know, that may have been one of the earliest

764
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:05,639
documented sightings. There's just a long history here in New England,

765
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,800
really classic sightings up here in the northern part of

766
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,559
the Appalachians, and you go Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine,

767
00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:14,559
the northern tier of New England, and even you know,

768
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,800
western Massachusetts to an extent where the Appalations run through,

769
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,360
which is some of the most rugged parts of the

770
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,760
whole mountain range. Up here in New Hampshire, I mean,

771
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,639
we have these mountains that are just I mean massive

772
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:27,719
and not maybe compared to some of the Western Mountains

773
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,960
but now Washington over six thousand feet and had some

774
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,239
of the worst weather on Earth. I mean, these these

775
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,119
very rugged areas. And what's interesting is these habitats support

776
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,159
a larger animals than any other part of the Appalachian Mountains. So,

777
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,320
you know, may in New Hampshire there's anywhere anywhere between

778
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,639
from the estimates, I've seen fifty to seventy thousand Eastern

779
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,559
moose residing in these you know, few million acres that

780
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,800
we have, which is the most amount of moose anywhere

781
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,320
in the US outside of Alaska, just to put into

782
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,599
please bank. And moose are giant animals, I mean, I

783
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,000
am sure, and I have moose on my property here.

784
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:05,679
They are these giant, you know, five hundred to one

785
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:08,039
thousand pound animals at least around here. They can get

786
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:11,960
bigger than that. They primarily spend their time eating there.

787
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,480
It's a lot of biomass. So that's just moose. I mean,

788
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:17,760
we have tons of black bear mains, got upwards of

789
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,719
thirty thousand black bear. You know, we have being so

790
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,559
close to Maine. Because the thing with Maine, you got

791
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:26,679
to realize Fifking Northern Maine is it's the northern sections

792
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,440
are millions of acres of undeveloped land that's actually considered

793
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,079
to be the most remote place anywhere east of the

794
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:36,760
Rocky Mountains, in like a contiguous area because nobody lives there.

795
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,920
It's considered actually a wilderness area. But the difference is

796
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,760
as opposed to say the Adirondacks, which is six million acres,

797
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,639
or know, we were talking about mononga Halo National Forest.

798
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:50,880
Some of these areas New Hampshire, like a fourth of

799
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,079
our state is the White Mountain National Forest. Northern Maine

800
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:56,800
is all owned by logging companies. It's all privately owned.

801
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,320
It's not a state or national park or forest. So

802
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,679
there isn't really much access. People can get access, but

803
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,920
you have to pay, and it's it's it's a lot

804
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,280
un it's it's untapped. But there's moose everywhere. So the

805
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,039
amount of biomass needed to feed that many moose, that

806
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,199
many bear, and then I mean even more you're as

807
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,000
you go on down, but I'm talking just the largest

808
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:19,000
animal I always look at. Moose is kind of an

809
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:23,880
interesting biological or interesting bio kind of metric terms of

810
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,880
the habitat. If this place can support tens of thousands

811
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,840
of moose, you throw a dozen sasquatch into the mix,

812
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,559
is that impossible biologically speaking in terms of food and resources?

813
00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:39,320
I mean I would say no, but that's so yeah.

814
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,760
I think these areas especially there's a very low population.

815
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,719
New Hampshire is just over a million people, same as Maine.

816
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:50,039
Vermonts like six hundred thousand. So there's there's like southern

817
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:53,639
New England, which is Connecticut, Rhode Island in Massachusetts has

818
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,719
more people.

819
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:58,679
Speaker 13: State than the whole of more than mine in this

820
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,320
territories were at it. And then the Order of Canada

821
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,760
the Province back, which is an untold makers that go

822
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,960
up in the Arctic that you know.

823
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 4: There's just so much. There's it's a ridiculous amount of space. So,

824
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:16,079
you know, these areas while Newhamster state like Newhamshire Mott

825
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:18,920
might be small and we still have very rugged areas,

826
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,559
and the sightings I think reflect that way because they

827
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,880
do happen in some of these rural areas, and most

828
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,119
of the state is rural mains. The most forested state

829
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:32,400
in the US by percentage, New Hampshire's number two, West

830
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,519
Virginia's number three, Vermont's number four. You know, so like

831
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:38,360
there's they're they're all kind of up there, and once

832
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,400
you visit these areas, you realize why I think a

833
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,199
lot of people will get this idea that New England

834
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:48,800
is all it's Boston, it's urban. It's both it's Jaws

835
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,960
or it's you know, Stephen King, it's it's all suburban.

836
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,840
But that's you know, select few areas. You know, once

837
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,840
you get out into the countryside, like where I live too,

838
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,360
I mean, there's just not a lot out here. There's

839
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,199
a lot of wood, a lot of people living in

840
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:04,320
these areas, and yeah, so I think they're definitely underrated.

841
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,880
Like there's so many again, I can't even begin to

842
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,440
tell you all the amazing stories that have come out

843
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,440
of these areas. You know, we talked about obviously the

844
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:14,280
Vermont case and that Whitehall I would say is like

845
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,119
the East coast Bigfoot capital or east of the Northeast,

846
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,440
just in terms of this region. But you know, again,

847
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:23,800
Vermont has a long history from north to south. And

848
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,039
I'm working on a video about the Bennington Triangle, but

849
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:28,400
I'm also assuming to be looking on a video about

850
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:32,760
the Ossipe tribe in New Hampshire, which is this circular

851
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,559
volcanic mountain range mini mountain range that has a long

852
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:38,960
history of interesting sightings, including one of the weirdest big

853
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,280
Foot sightings I've ever heard, which was this creature seen

854
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,320
in this stacked stone hut with like a hemlock branch roof.

855
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,400
It was very interesting. I interviewed the sighting almost ten

856
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,679
years ago. But that area has a long history of sightings,

857
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,239
and yeah, they're there. I think, you know, these things

858
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,159
are moving through these areas. You don't need to have

859
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:02,079
a lot of them. There's enough habitat here to support

860
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,719
you know, a good amount. Again, I'm not I'm not

861
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,199
saying there's like thousands of these things running around, but

862
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:09,920
you know, there's thousands of moose and bear throwing a

863
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,639
few dozen sasquatch. And I think that's that's not.

864
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,559
Speaker 9: Implausible, it's very plausible, right, Very good.

865
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely correct.

866
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 5: There was a question here from our friend Mike Mike

867
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:28,880
wants Stone. Alex, Well, that was not the one question

868
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,719
I wanted to ask, but we'll ask that one right now.

869
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,960
Had you had any recent reports of mountain lions, uh

870
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,199
sightings in the Northeast.

871
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, recently somebody was telling me about one near the

872
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:42,400
Quabbin Reservoir in Massachusetts. I can't remember who I was

873
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,239
talking to, but uh, there's there's always stories of mountain lions,

874
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,639
and you know, I did a whole documentary on Lines

875
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:51,760
of the East about the mystery big cat Sitans, and

876
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,840
you know, there's there's documented DNA verified cases where mountain

877
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,960
lions have been discovered in an area and then stay

878
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:03,159
have kind of downplayed that significance. I think it's a

879
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:05,159
government money issue because they don't want to deal with

880
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:08,639
another predator. But that's that's another story for another day.

881
00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:11,239
But yeah, so there there definitely have been some. So

882
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,199
it's a yeah, it's one of those things because I

883
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,960
I you know, I go to some of these events

884
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:17,559
and people would tell me, well, I haven't seen a

885
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:19,599
big foot, but did see a mountain lion. And I

886
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:21,960
started getting a lot of these stories. And that's what

887
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,559
kind of was the impetus for giving a whole documentary

888
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:26,800
about like the mystery big cat topics specifically.

889
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,159
Speaker 5: Well, you know, my old physician was a member of

890
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:31,880
the Eastern Puma Research Network.

891
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,159
Speaker 8: We used to spend a short.

892
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 5: Amount of time in my uh doctor visits talking about

893
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,119
bigfoot and mountain lion or what other big cats were seeing.

894
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:43,440
It's always interesting to me that, you know, again the

895
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,480
denial from some of the agencies that you know, just

896
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,280
refused to acknowledge that these things are in our in

897
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,840
our forests, and you know that pose an actual, real danger.

898
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,320
We could say we want about sasquatch, you know, and

899
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,599
and there's a lot left to put on the table,

900
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:03,039
but we do know that big cats could you know,

901
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:05,800
potentially be a real present danger for folks, and if

902
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,239
they are here, that's a public safety to acknowledge that

903
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,679
that shouldn't be brushed into the rug. That should be Hey,

904
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,079
let's post them, let's put some wags up there, and

905
00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:17,679
let's just make sure folks are being safe. You know,

906
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,440
it's no different than bears. We acknowledge bears exist, but

907
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:22,880
probably more likely to be attacked by an outline than

908
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,119
you would be a bear though, I mean, I I

909
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:29,199
don't know, it's just like you said, knowledge well around.

910
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,639
Speaker 4: Here, statistically, I think moose and in general, yeah, moose

911
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,280
dangerous and alasta they are statistically the most dangerous because

912
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,639
I think there's the most amount of moose human interactions

913
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,079
and moose, Like when I'm out here in the woods,

914
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,519
I don't care about black bear nine times. I mean,

915
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:45,880
I was getting the mail the other day and I

916
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,920
had to run in with a black bear. You know,

917
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,519
that's how many we have up here. But if it

918
00:47:49,559 --> 00:47:51,920
was a moose, I probably would have reacted a little

919
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,440
differently because I had no bear spray, you know, firing

920
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,280
nothing on me, just getting the mail. But a moose, yeah,

921
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,760
they're unfortunately, you know, they're they're beautiful MAJORI animals, but

922
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,960
they are not very intelligent, and they especially certain times

923
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,360
a year, the males can be provoked and like snowmobilers,

924
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,000
get attack, but they're they're still pretty rare. I mean,

925
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,639
but you know, you like ask ask Brian in the

926
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,280
chat there my buddy Brian Carvey. You know what it's

927
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,920
like running into a moose and you're hiking in the

928
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,320
middle of nowhere, as he's had happen to him. It's

929
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,039
not a fun experience. And then you're also decides Nope,

930
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,079
I'm not messing with this guy. I mean, just there's

931
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:27,559
cheers size of these things. I've been with people up here.

932
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:29,960
We've been driving back roads and all of a sudden,

933
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,559
a moose runs out in front of the road, and

934
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:33,599
you know, people that have never seen a moose before,

935
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:37,159
and there's like, oh my god, that's a moose. I'm like, yeah,

936
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,199
you see what I'm talking about. Now, this is no joke.

937
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:42,639
They big, they've been They're scary. Yet it's like when

938
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:44,800
you and when you hit them, it's like I've heard

939
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,440
people describe you're hitting just a giant, seven hundred pound

940
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,280
meat sack on possicle stage and it's a windshield, right,

941
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,159
so kill you. It's not about rush into a tree.

942
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 5: Well you know where Alec or Alex Well, Alex and

943
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,440
I spent a lot of time. Matt and I's been

944
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,679
a decent ment of time. We have ELK. Yeah, the

945
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,880
movies about probably still a little bigger than the elk.

946
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:10,039
Speaker 4: And I mean I've run into elk. I mean we

947
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:11,840
saw something. We were out there with you guys last

948
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,559
spring too. But I've run into elk in Colorado and

949
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,440
like northern California, and they can be pretty intimidating, even

950
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,400
in the Smokies. Yeah, they're they're not to be trifled

951
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,360
with it. I was watching tourists in Rocky Mountain National

952
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,400
Park walking up to you know, bull elks sitting there

953
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,760
in the field, and I'm like, like one of those

954
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,880
Dumus videos, you know, like you see in these national parks.

955
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,000
So people have lost all naturally instinct and fear, I guess.

956
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:44,159
Speaker 5: But I did find the question from from Mike that

957
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,480
was it was around what conditions bother you the most?

958
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:48,519
Speaker 8: Rain or bugs?

959
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:54,039
Speaker 4: I think he's asked on purpose. He knows the struggles

960
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:59,199
that we've been through. You know what bothers me the most?

961
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,800
Probably I would say rain. At this point I got

962
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,559
a caveat. I'd say rain is probably the most annoying

963
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:10,000
because it's it can often be a buzzkill. Like we've

964
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,400
had outings we planned with Mike and other guys up

965
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,880
here in the Northeast, and you know, this weekend is

966
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,360
gonna be great, and then that whole weekend is torrential downpour,

967
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,280
so we either have to cancel plans. Well, Brian and

968
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,400
I have said the embrace the suck where you just

969
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,360
but then as you just sit there, you're soaking wet

970
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,119
after just having cooked the giant pancake and a skillet,

971
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,360
and all of a sudden, the skies have opened up

972
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,199
on you and you are soaked head to toe and

973
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,360
you just sit there kind of wallowing in your misery,

974
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,360
eating this soggy pancake out of the pan, and there's

975
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,280
nothing you can do in that moment. So I'd say

976
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,719
rain maybe edges out bugs. I can deal with bugs

977
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:48,800
after having into Alaska and Larry Beans Baxter can attest it.

978
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,400
And when we went out to the middle of nowhere,

979
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,760
like three hours outside of Fairbanks, it was hell on earth. Yeah,

980
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:58,840
I mean they're you know, the state burd in Alaska.

981
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,920
They just are lenting like swellow myat in my face

982
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,679
despite wearing a net all weekend. So after dealing with

983
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,880
those bugs, bugs else, we don't really bother me. But

984
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,079
the rain I think edges out in terms of being

985
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:15,239
the worst. So but sometimes rain can be great, you know,

986
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,400
but other times it's just plain annoying. When it rains

987
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,480
every day on like a week long trip.

988
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 8: Hey, we get that one.

989
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 5: Matt and I just had to cancel some adventures because

990
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,039
of some rain ourselves.

991
00:51:26,639 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 8: Scott.

992
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 5: Question from Scott Alex at your night to cook dinner

993
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,320
at the camp out, what's the meal you're making?

994
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: Love that question, that's a good one. I don't know.

995
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,480
I mean, I feel like a lot of times it

996
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:42,719
just depends. I let Brian do the cooking because he's

997
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,480
he's a very skilled camp chef. But if it's me,

998
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:52,639
my cat just ran off, I think just maybe just burgers.

999
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:54,559
I mean, I'd like to keep it simple. I think

1000
00:51:54,599 --> 00:51:58,840
Burger likes a nice skill it camp burger, you know.

1001
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,000
I think that's just a good cl you know. I'd

1002
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:03,880
like doing breakfast too, like somebody will do like a

1003
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,960
breakfast for dinner. That works too. But actually, I got

1004
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,079
this one meal that I make that I've only done

1005
00:52:09,079 --> 00:52:11,400
a camping a few times. It's more of like a

1006
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,280
post workout meal. But it's this spicy Korean beef dish.

1007
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 8: Nice.

1008
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,519
Speaker 4: The only thing is you got out of like pre

1009
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:21,280
made rice. It's hard cooking rice. In the woods, like

1010
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,880
a spicy Korean bulgogie style dish that we made on

1011
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,039
a camping out and once it was really good, especially

1012
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:28,800
in the cold weather, like really warms you up. But

1013
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:32,440
I'd say burgers the nice a nice camp burger. You

1014
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,199
cannot go wrong.

1015
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 9: Oh great, now I'm hungry, all right.

1016
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 5: You know when you're with Matt and I, Matt and

1017
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,519
I don't do a lot of cooking and camp. We

1018
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:45,840
will drive miles to restaurants, all right, we will because

1019
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,239
we uh, well, yeah, I get it.

1020
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 4: Like a lot of times, like like Mike Lucci, I

1021
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:53,519
and Brian, like we seek out fun places to eat,

1022
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,679
like on our way when we're driving out, like that

1023
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,679
mythical pizza place. Oh, this local place is known for

1024
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,199
their wings. Let's get that. Like you got indulged a

1025
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,400
little bit. But you know, you're out in the back

1026
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,239
country a lot of times, like if it's a backpacking

1027
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,840
tribu eating those you know, mountainhouse meals, the freeze driede stuff,

1028
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,480
those can get pretty rough. They're really Like I remember

1029
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,800
ten years ago, there was very few options. Now, I

1030
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,320
mean I can get like Korean beef freeze dry, like

1031
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,000
there's some really good options nowadays more companies getting into it.

1032
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:23,320
But car camping is the best because we just we

1033
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,159
can load up and bring all this stuff and then

1034
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:28,159
have everything we need. So we we we pretty extravagant.

1035
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:29,400
You might have seen in some of our videos. You

1036
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,199
know we're having like deer meat that that Mike Lucci

1037
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,800
had caught, and you know we were doing that like

1038
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,199
tacos and yeah, we we definitely like to like to

1039
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:42,440
feast pretty good and some of these matures. He's not wrong,

1040
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,400
but just trying to get ten miles into the back

1041
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,719
country and all you have is those freeze read meals.

1042
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:49,960
So you've got to do what you gotta do. But

1043
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,840
if you got the chance, you know, make something nice.

1044
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 8: Henry, we can kind of you done. In the bottom corner.

1045
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 5: What questions you got for Alex here, buddy, Well, I

1046
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,480
was wondering about the state of Maine.

1047
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 4: I know you've been there a few times.

1048
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 10: As far as how would the mountainous areas in the

1049
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,360
state of Maine compared to West Virginia compared to the

1050
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,079
Pacific Northwest, I'd.

1051
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 4: Say more rugged than West Virginia. Now, West Virginia has

1052
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,440
some amazing rugged places that the hills and the haulers

1053
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,119
and they have you know, as I've heard Joe Purdue

1054
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:30,880
over wild and Weird West Virginia has described it a

1055
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,840
few years ago in a video. It's like a crumpled

1056
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:35,840
you know, crumpled carpet. You crumple it up and you

1057
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,840
have all these contours. That's kind of like the whole

1058
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,280
state of West Virginia. Fun fact, West Virginia is the

1059
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,760
only state that is both fully in the Appalachian Mountains

1060
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:48,360
and culturally in the socio cultural region known as Appalachia,

1061
00:54:48,519 --> 00:54:50,880
So it's it's in both. But Maine has a little

1062
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,280
bit more rugged mountains. So Maine has Alcatatin, which if

1063
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,880
you look at picture as you could, you would think

1064
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,159
it's a mountain maybe out west it's it's only about

1065
00:54:58,159 --> 00:55:01,760
five thou five thousand something feet, but it's the terminus

1066
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,800
of the Appalation Trail. So the hikers that go up there,

1067
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,119
they end on Mount Katada and New Hampshire I think

1068
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:10,840
is overall the most rugged in this area, and a

1069
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,599
lot of people say it's the most rugged part of

1070
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:13,639
the entire appellation.

1071
00:55:14,159 --> 00:55:15,639
Speaker 9: Washington, right, yeah.

1072
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 4: Mount Washington. You know there's some places that really will

1073
00:55:18,199 --> 00:55:20,519
like I've run into people out in the White Mountains

1074
00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:22,800
that are from the west coast, and they're very shocked

1075
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,840
to see because they joke around that we don't have

1076
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,480
mountains on these coast. We just have hills and like

1077
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:29,960
most of the appellations I would say are kind of

1078
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:33,039
like even compared to our mountains are are you know,

1079
00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:36,280
hills and some contours, but it gets pretty rugged. But

1080
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,079
I would say the Pacific Northwest still obviously some of

1081
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:41,559
those you know, the Cascade Range and the Olympics, they

1082
00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:44,559
edge out the mountains out here. But as Cliff Barrickman

1083
00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:47,840
has told them multiple times, he has felt that when

1084
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,760
he visited New Hampshire in some parts of main and

1085
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,639
that it was like a many It was a Pacific

1086
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,800
Northwest on three quarters scale as he described. I was

1087
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,679
just talking Renee recently. She said she'd always been very

1088
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,360
so that how rugged it was up here when they visited.

1089
00:56:03,559 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 5: And you know what, our mountains aren't trying to kill

1090
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,639
us every so often.

1091
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so it's again, it's uh, I've hiked all

1092
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:14,239
the mountains in New Hampshire that are over four thousand

1093
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,679
feet tall. There's about forty eight of them. So is

1094
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,719
Brian there and you see some of them. I mean,

1095
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:21,519
you can take a picture of it and it looks

1096
00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:24,079
like you're in the Pacific Northwest with the pines. We

1097
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:26,920
have a lot more pines, and then we do deciduous

1098
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,880
especially in the higher elevations up here, when you get

1099
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,639
alpine zones that start over four thousand feet, So you

1100
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:34,960
can be hiking for two thousand feet in an alpine

1101
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:38,159
zone and you're totally exposed. Whereas down south in that

1102
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,199
say the Smokey's or North Carolina, they have some mountains

1103
00:56:41,199 --> 00:56:43,159
that are over six thousand feet, but you're up on

1104
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:46,159
Mountain Mitchell, and you know, you still have a completely

1105
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:49,400
you know, a summit that's enclosed by you can't see it.

1106
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:52,440
So it's definitely a little different.

1107
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1108
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 5: Well, you know, elevation, as Matt and I are starting

1109
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,960
to learn, I think, plays an element in this game.

1110
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,039
And you know, we were told by a gentleman we

1111
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:06,519
were doing a little presentation, you know that over a

1112
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:11,519
certain elevation we would notice an absent of animals. And

1113
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,360
sure enough, we hit that elevation and there was an

1114
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,480
absence of animals. And I think it was just by

1115
00:57:19,559 --> 00:57:24,360
happenstance that guy came into our presentation and shared that

1116
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,880
detail with us, And it's something we've heard over the years,

1117
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,800
but I've never seen anything to it. But Matt and

1118
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,360
I were able to in the moment go, holy shit,

1119
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:35,400
this guy wasn't pulling a leg, he wasn't bullshitting us.

1120
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:38,440
And you go down to that elevation and into a

1121
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,960
field there's like all the deer and elk and everything. Fine,

1122
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,920
but you go above that there was nothing and why

1123
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,119
and that was a pretty interesting notation. I think Matt

1124
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:51,880
and I wouldn't try that a little bit more and

1125
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,760
would love to see that in other areas and see

1126
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,800
how that would correspond any of your notes or anything

1127
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,199
Alex in that respect, Like.

1128
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:02,599
Speaker 4: I just want to drew us. One comment there from

1129
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:05,400
Brian says few deaths this year in Mount Washington just

1130
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,519
last week. Yeah, this is crazy. I mean Mount Washington

1131
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:12,000
has killed hundreds of people over pat you know, one hundred,

1132
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,239
tw hundred years, and just just a few weeks ago,

1133
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,440
a guy or last week, a guy was hiking at

1134
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,440
the top of the mountain, which is there's a visitor center,

1135
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,519
there's a train that goes up to the mountains, kind

1136
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:24,840
of like a pike. Right, Yeah, you've got a cog

1137
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,119
train that goes up there. This guy, he was at

1138
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:29,599
the visitor center and he wandered off and got lost

1139
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:31,960
in an area. When then we're talking, the top of

1140
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,719
this mountain is exposed. I mean there's no trees.

1141
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,239
Speaker 9: For thousands, Yeah, wildly.

1142
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:41,719
Speaker 4: And he got lost and was found days later dead.

1143
00:58:42,039 --> 00:58:44,599
I mean that's just how in crazy the mountain they're crazy,

1144
00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:48,400
the weather conditions, everything, so it's not to be underestimated. Again,

1145
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,360
I did.

1146
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 10: Climb to the summit of Mount Washington and it did

1147
00:58:53,519 --> 00:58:56,719
not take the cog. My cousin and myself we did

1148
00:58:56,719 --> 00:59:01,280
climb to the summit of Mount Washington and it was

1149
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,800
crazy as the culture. You get to the summit, there's

1150
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,239
no vegetation there once none.

1151
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, a lot of people again.

1152
00:59:11,199 --> 00:59:13,119
Speaker 4: Get surprised that kind of stuff exists on the East

1153
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:16,400
Coast and you know again Katada and has places like that.

1154
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,280
But to your point, Sean about the wildlife, yeah, I mean, uh,

1155
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,400
I mean I know here like moose will even go

1156
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,440
to the top of some of these mountains. It's very

1157
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:27,360
uh oh yeah, that was Brian had told me about

1158
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,840
that they had scared these you know, the most thing

1159
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,639
of saying is or the most well known one is

1160
00:59:33,679 --> 00:59:35,719
about you know, the mountains. The mountains will be there

1161
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,400
another day, who might not be. So I've had I

1162
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,280
had a few where we've had to pull the plug

1163
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,880
and say, guys, it's way too cold, it's getting unsafe.

1164
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:46,800
We got a head back and we've had to we've

1165
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,840
had to stop me. And we had a situation this

1166
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,639
past winter with Brian and Mike Lucci and we were

1167
00:59:51,679 --> 00:59:53,719
trying to get to this cabin on top of this mountain,

1168
00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:55,760
and you know, we were tugging through snow and it

1169
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,559
got to the point where we just said we got

1170
00:59:57,559 --> 01:00:01,239
to call it. You're not it's not worth the risk point, right, Yeah,

1171
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,960
they're no joke. But the animals they deal with it again.

1172
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:06,800
You know, in the dead of winter, you're looking around

1173
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,480
you like, why would anyone anything you want to live here?

1174
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And you realize there's thousands of moose around you. You know,

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not in the immediate vicinity, but you know within the

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area you're in or the national forest, so you know,

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certain elevations up here, you know, you do still get

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some of these, like bears and moose will sometimes wander

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up past the alpine zone and they'll be really famous

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pictures of like a bull moose up on the top

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of the mountain unobstructed view. But for the most part

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around here, I believe the animals stay mostly in the valleys,

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but they do move up the mountains, and a lot

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of these mountains they do, you know, the smaller ones

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they do have treed summits, so it's you know, a

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lot of plenty of vegetation. I mean, there's you know,

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mountains in Vermont. I've been up to three four thousand

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feet that you'll just see moose scant all the way

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going up the mountain and they're using the human trail

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and the roads to go up. So they're moving up

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there for whatever reason, you know, following food or or

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or certain types of plants. You know, if you're for

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01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,639
the most you're eating a lot, so you're always on

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what to eat. So that's that's there. That's basically all

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they do.

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Speaker 5: Well, guys, we hit that time at ten o'clock.

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Speaker 8: We're out of time for tonight.

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Speaker 5: Alex would love to get you back again at some point, buddy,

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what's next. What do you got going on?

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Speaker 4: Oh, there's a lot going on. I'll just put a

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few in here, you know, obviously, you know I do

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01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:30,719
a bunch of different series, A small Town Monsters, Be

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01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,800
on the Trail. I'm gonna be filming some very exciting

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01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,920
stuff for that soon. You know, certain places, I'll throw

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,960
some teasers out there, you know, maybe certain states that

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are disconnected from the rest of the US. You know,

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well we'll put it that way. Uh, we give that

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,079
one away. A little bit strange places. A series that

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01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,480
focuses more on not just big Foot stuff, but their

1210
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,920
cryptid and paranormal stuff. A few episodes about that. I

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01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,760
mentioned Bennington Triangle, awsofy Triangle, really weird Bigfoot stories. And

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then more appilation KFA Files, which will continue to cover

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parts of the North in other areas. But we have

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an exciting episode of Ape Canyon. The Journey to Ape

1215
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,400
Canyon with on the Trail will be coming at some

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01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,039
point in the next few months. I don't know when. Sorry,

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01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:19,880
I can't give me specifics, but oh, that's okay. STM

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has got a lot of Abe Canyon stuff we're working on,

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01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,559
and this is going to be a really fun one

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because it's going to be a very unique look at

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01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,559
the location where Ape Canyon is. And you know, we

1222
01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:30,199
went on a great adventure there last year.

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Speaker 8: So right, well, thank you Alex.

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Speaker 5: Folks, we want to thank you for winning in it

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being a great audience tonight. Of course, listen to the

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Sasquatch Experience. He's Van Sniz, but I'm Sean Forger. That's

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Henry may Matt at the bottom. James Baker had to

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leave us, and we hope he's okay.

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Speaker 8: Alex.

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Speaker 5: Once again, thank you, Henry take us out with those

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01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,360
dulcet tones. Well as all. I want to thank Alex

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for coming on and I it was a great interview

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and you all be good or be good at it.

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Speaker 8: There it is, folks, we'll see you in two weeks.

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