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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Jeff Grebin. Whitby is Mike Menati.
Speaker 1: In today's episode, we got Crimson Desert opinions popping off,
especially from people who have not played Crimson Desert.
Speaker 2: We have the hat here it is at It's all right, good,
thank god. I'm so relieved you have the hat. Mike.
How are you doing. I'm good. I did go and
see the Secret of the ooze in theaters. I still
have my small boy. They make these even the smalls
are so thick. Soda still from the Regal Theater. Still
working on that. I'm glad. I went good. I just
went by myself. It was so fun. I turned a
little Mikey pamper session. I got my got some pretzel nuggets, cheese,
some sweetest fish. To be honest with us, any popcorn farts, well,
I didn't have any popcorns, so I didn't fart any
popcorm this time again, I went for the Nuggies. I
was so close to a private screening, but of course
like two people had to come in like right after me.
But that is the dream if you go by yourself.
Speaker 1: Especially, It's like, what if I get the theater to myself,
that that's the dream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, but uh yeah, I'm gy one, Like
it really was my favorite movie when I was a kid.
I don't even know if I did see in the theaters.
I just remember getting the VHS tape when I was
a kid, so that may have been the first time
I question, you know, it's just a it's just a
silly cartoon of them movie, really, man. And I get
why people prefer the first one. I get why it
is objection objectively, probably a better movie, but the second
one is silly and fun, and it makes.
Speaker 1: Me it's Rocky one versus Rocky four, right, Like, I'm
glad we have both. I'm really thankful we have both.
And most of the most of the time, I'm in
the mood for Rocky four. And I don't know what
that says about me. I think it says I'm a
pretty cool dude who likes cool things. But whatever, Yeah, Mike,
I'm glad you got to do that today was one
of those NonStop days at work where it's like, yeah,
got up a little bit early even and recorded some
social stuff early, then did GMM, and then I did
the quick look for christ who does it? Right after that,
and then we did a voicemail dump Truck and then
comat your Life.
Speaker 2: I keep trying to jump ahead two things you did today.
That's a busy day, and it's.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, it's a busy day, but it's like one
of those one where it's like, Okay, it's busy. It
is a lot, it's but it's the good kind of
like you know that Midwest work ethic, right where so
that it was a hard day's work.
Speaker 2: I feel good about myself. So I'm exhausted, but in
a good It's a busy week. I mean this Monday
was when we did the Lego party thing.
Speaker 1: That's like forever ago. Yeah, I feel like forever ago.
Yeah again, that was a really good time. I'm glad
we got to do that. Cover that Lego party stuff happening.
You know, we can talk about it here as well.
I guess that could be one of the new stories
we get into because it's it's out now. We'll get
into that in a little bit, but you know what,
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All right, Mike, we're gonna get into the news right
after a quick break. All right, let's talk about some news. Mike.
Speaker 1: I have not had time to put together the thing,
so I'm just gonna go off of Video Game Chronicles
here shout us out to VGC. I'll say, when I
was putting the news together this morning, it was one
of those mornings where it's like I did kind of
get an early start. I got a chance to like
really spend the time looking for the news stories. And
I had a couple of thoughts. One really grateful for VGC.
They continue to just do great work as always. And
then Kotaku. The Kataku headlines are so sharp these days.
I mean, they've always been really sharp. They they have
always had a good editor's eye. But the folks are
Ethan Gotch. You know, He's kind of running the show
over there as far as I know, But that whole team,
they're just so good at getting to the point of
why a story matters or making it extra fun. Just
shouts out to Kataku. I'm really really infatuated with those
guys these days. So could work over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I saw, I saw. The funny thing is
like like angry gamer trying to remember why he hates
Kataku again. I think it was. I think it was
Rebecca Voutzer responded because somebody from an unrelated site was
bad at Cuphead once and honestly, whenever I have to
do game best of mornings when you're away a boy,
I get a lot of the headlines from VGC. They
just cover almost everything they do in a very succinct way,
and their site is very easy to navigate. So yes,
I am very thankful to VGC.
Speaker 1: So I guess one of the things we could talk
about from the news side of it. I have been
playing this game some I want to play some more.
Not well, I don't want to play some. I tend
to play some more of Crimson Desert, which came out
the reviews came out. It has an eighty on Open
Critic a seventy eight on Metacritic. These are both as
of the last time I checked. Those reviews are disappointing,
they just are compared to where the hype was at there.
I saw a lot of people predicting in the nineties
for this game. Ninety two ninety three were numbers being
thrown around by people who are observing this from the outside.
I know I don't get it, but that that is
what I saw. And now, because these disappointing reviews, you know,
quote unquote disappointing, and eighties are pretty good on Open Critic,
Crimson Desert studio Pearl Thiss sees share price plummet by
nearly thirty percent after those first reviews. I I do wonder,
like how much the reviews are going to hurt this game,
because I think it's gonna just sort to live and
die by like it's ongoing support.
Speaker 2: It's changed a lot.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of updates just since I've gotten
my hands on it, Like since I first got it.
Now I have it now, I think this could be
a very different game and a few months, I don't know,
it feels like it could have a life of its
own outside of these reviews.
Speaker 2: What do you think there is a frothing demand out there,
Jeff for the next the next Witcher three, the next
sky Rim, the next Red Demdition. People one's supposed to
be all those games, right right? And I think I
think everybody who's look at this game and sort of
imagining that it was whatever they thought that they they wanted. Yeah,
the maybe there was projecting happen. You know, some people
are enjoying and that's fine. I haven't played it myself.
I'm going to be checking out tomorrow on a Giant Bomb,
so I'll see what I think of the thing. But
it is weird how much Traction's game was gained to
a gain to the point where I was getting messages
from friends of mine that I maybe talked to once
a year anymore that I see. Uh, you know, pretty
normy gamers especially be like, hey, is like the scripts
of Desert supposed to be good? I'm like, how do
you know about it? Why are you? What's going? And
now I know was because like it's been popping off
on TikTok and things like that, and people just get
trailers and saying this is it. We have anointed this
as the next big thing, and so then I think
a lot of people are just emotional about this. And look,
it was like of course on the Steam page right now,
because I want to see where it's reviews are there,
and like the trailer they have playing on Steam page, like,
oh man, there's a lot of things. He has a
rocket pack at some point for some reason. It looks
very pretty, it looks fun. So I get why a
lot of people would look at this and be like,
here it is, here's the next big thing that we
are desperate for. Maybe the realities conflicted with that, even
even on Steam, and like you know, I think there's
a bitter narrative of oh the game reviewers don't get it.
But on Steam, which is just people reviewing it, the
reviews aren't mixed right now, with like about fifteen to
get in positive, like not even not very positive or
you know over well maingly positive. I would have guessed
it would like just come out to positive.
Speaker 1: I wonder if I bet there's maybe probably some performance
issues early on it was a little buggy.
Speaker 2: You could see that in the quick look that I did.
Speaker 1: There was a mission that bugged out and we had
to set some stuff like we kind of figured out
after I died and went back and tried it again
that it bugged out.
Speaker 2: So there could be some of that stuff.
Speaker 1: But I do expect to sort of fall into the
mixed category for most people, because it's you're gonna be
expecting which you're and Dragon's Dogma and all these other
games based on what you're seeing from those clips on TikTok,
and I think the final reality is much closer to
Assassin's Creed and a sluggish Assassin's Creed at that, like
one that feel like an Assassin's Creed that doesn't feel
as good as even some of the worst feeling Assassin's Creeds.
Speaker 2: I that does not mean that there is not something
enticing in this game.
Speaker 1: I do talk about that in a quick look as well,
where you do look at the vistas and you look
up at a big tower up in the mountain and
you're like, God, I do wonder what's up there.
Speaker 2: I wonder what it's like to get up there. But
then I, yeah, I had these scenarios where it's say, okay,
I want to you know, they're also trying to be
like Red Dead Redemption two clearly, and they're trying like
a lot of the systems just the way the mechanics
work about if you want to interact with someone in
the world, you have to do the thing from Red
Dead Redemption two where you sort of hold down LB
and to lock onto someone, and then it gives you
a list of options of like, you know, hail them,
or or steal from them, or or interact or just
say hello. And you know, so it's like, okay, yeah,
they're clearly pulling from that. But then I tried to
just like mess around in the world and do a
couple of crimes, and I was shooting arrows through people
because it would not let me attack it, attack them
and interact with the world how I wanted. It wouldn't
let me steal a horse.
Speaker 1: Okay, there is eventually a way to like hit a
guard so much that they're like, okay, we have now
engaged the combat system. It has been turned on, so
now you actually can attack this person. But it's not
like that first swing is going to do anything. It
feels very much like an MMO flipping between different cis
in a very hard and fast way. I find a
lot of that personally, but repulsive, like it's just like
as in it repulses me away, like not like oh
it's disgusting, just that, like I feel pushed away by
the way that this game is built. It is clearly
something that is made in a way that I will
not enjoy for the most part.
Speaker 2: And yet I'm still curious about that world.
Speaker 1: So there are gonna be people who are much more
patient than I am, who are gonna get over that,
who are gonna learn and maybe even have a little
bit of that Stockholm syndrome of like I learn, I'm
gonna learn the way this game works and who cares
and it plays the way it plays whatever. I just
need to see this world. The problem there is, you know,
the characters, the story, that stuff stuck, that stuff actually
does suck like that I have no problem saying, because
everyone sort of agrees with that.
Speaker 2: It's a weird one. Mike.
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to seeing what you think, because
there's a chance that you will just have a different
insight someone who comes from MMOs. This is an MMO developer.
There's definitely a lot of that DNA in this game,
for sure, So I think you're gonna be able to
spot like, Okay, here's how I actually get to the
fun of this thing. And I would urge you to
go in with the would try to prove me wrong.
I would like to see someone a different opinion.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, as an MMO player, I'm used to
large worlds that are barely interactable. That's the thing. This
thing's like, everything's interactable.
Speaker 1: It's just like to what end and not in the
Skyrim sense of to what end, where it's like, oh,
you can go collect all these wheels of cheese.
Speaker 2: I guess you could probably do that here.
Speaker 1: It's just I think I can do something else with this,
and and then you go to do it and then
the person that you were just talking to vanishes for
some reason. It's a weird game. I do think it
was put on this pedestal prematurely. I hope people are
able to get past this part of Okay, some of
these game reviewers don't like it. Go find your fun.
If this thing looks fun to you, go find it.
That'd probably be possible. I'm gonna I'm gonna be I
don't know why my mind.
Speaker 2: I'm already curious of about comparence game to a Vowed,
which was sort of an approach of let's try to
make one of these, you know, kind of open world
are PG ish games. Although I hear over and over
again Crimsons Desert not really an RPG, don't expect me,
you know, like, Okay, well what if we make the world,
what if we do make the world smaller, if we
just focus on a handful of systems instead, and let's
do that. And you know, it did do things like
improve the combat much more so than we're used to
these kind of games. But you know what I kind
of kept hearing was people are like, this world doesn't
feel alive enough to me, This doesn't feel this isn't
what I wanted. I want bigger, I kind of want
more things to do that kind of thing. So and
maybe this is the opposite end of that, Like here's
the game where it's very, very big, and you could
do all these sorts of things and maybe maybe not
any any single one of them is gonna feel well.
H yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting time to try and
make these kinds of games. I am curious how even
the Witcher four is gonna fare, if that's gonna come
out and be a big deal, if it's gonna have
it's sort of Dragon Age Veil Guard situation. I don't know, right,
there's I mean, there's always that trapdoor waiting for a
big game like that. Absolutely, but it's I'll just say, like,
it is obvious to me that this game was let's
do everything we could possibly do and we'll find the
fun later, or the fun is you can do all
these things and one of these things will probably just
spark your interest. Who knows.
Speaker 1: There is no like core fundamental enjoyment to the game
that's like, okay, now that will branch off into all
these cool things you're doing elsewhere as you enjoyed the
core mechanic of doing X. It is just, yeah, there's
that crafting system and there's this combat system, and they're
all kind of separated a little bit, and the one
connective tissue is this big, sprawling open world. And yeah,
it's not enough for me. I am curious to see more.
I will keep playing just because I want to be
able to talk about it even more on the BombCast
and this show next week. But yeah, again, looking forward
to you playing some more of it on Friday.
Speaker 3: Could I offer a little bit of insight on this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Please, Yeah, just to answer something that you guys were
talking about. You seemed a little surprised by the level
of hype around this one, and I was thinking about
this one because I want to figure out why that
would be the case as well. And it was when
I talked with my friends about it the r night
that clicked with me. And I think part of it
does come from the fact that it is from Pearl Abyss,
you know, an overseas studio. Black guys are online Korean MMO.
Maybe a different audience who doesn't necessarily play traditional console
games are intrigued by it. But I think a lot
of it comes from the fact that people are looking
for their everything game, like the casual gamer wants an
everything game. And when I talk to my two friends
is when that made sense to me. Because my friend,
who plays games that are a lot like what I like,
like Final Fantasy Persona and fighting games and FPSs and
stuff like that, he didn't even know what this was.
But my other friend, who is big into Bethesda games,
big into you know, Skyrim, Elder Scrolls, Fallouts like all
these things and Final Fantasy fourteen. He was super interested
in this one, and I think that's because times are
tough out there, and he's telling me, I really want
to play Residuevil Requiem. I cannot spend seventy dollars on
twelve hour game. I think that's reality for a lot
of people at this point. But the idea of spending
seventy dollars on one hundred plus hour game that's in
the style that he likes is something that I think
a lot of people are in that situation where they
want the everything game to be good. It's why games
like you know, live service games like Fortnite and Roadblocks
are the big things in the world. People want to
spend no money or a little bit money and then
be able to play that game forever and not have
to worry about, well, I spend seventy dollars for a
weekend of fun, you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's exactly the game and
the sort of maneuver that they're trying to make here
is is that content argument of hours per dollar for sure, And.
Speaker 2: I just I've have a memoria of thinking, right, yes, and.
Speaker 1: I would just love to urge people to be like, man,
you play in Evil nine five times, I promise you'll
enjoy that more. And I know that's true because I've
played both of these games now, but I do I
still appreciate that for some people, like no, that still
doesn't matter. The next thing, being completely new in novel
is what I want to get, so I and I
understand people like hoping that this thing is going to
be that. And it's at the very least it is huge,
like no doubt about it. It is massive and filled
with endless stuff. I don't think any of that stuff
is well considered, but I do know for a fact
that to a lot of people that matters less than
the fact that it's just there. And that's it's hard
for me to like take off the critic cap and
be like, well, okay, that's fine. It's like, well, no,
it's it's actually still bad and I'm gonna call it bad.
Speaker 3: And I think that this Mike bring up the Steam
review is being mixed. I think is a good sign
that the hype will die down and people will be
willing to look at Frickly vornually the environment we're in now,
maybe especially once their favorite Street or plays and realizes,
oh wait, this isn't that great. That's why Nil sink
in right.
Speaker 2: They don't get they don't like it when we say
a game isn't good. If Maximilian Dude tells them or something,
then they'll start to believe it or something. I don't know.
It's been an emotional week for the gamers. People are
kind of in it tizzy just about this game for
some reason. Obviously everybody was very you know, kind of
emotional already because of the d O S S five thing, right,
which you know I get, but yes, six.
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Street six is uh, you know, everybody's favorite
character has buried his cousin.
Speaker 1: But was it who's that guy on WOOLI who's like someone?
Maybe it was in the comments They're like, that's not
what Gyle meant when he said go home and be
a family man.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not, guys, be clear, I was
not some kind of it's all that Max obviously, No, no, no,
the Max does not do that. Yeah no, I'm just saying, like, yeah,
a lot of people are gonna like they take will
they will take Max more seriously than us. It's just wait,
and yeah, we get it, like they have much more.
Speaker 3: Tell everyone that this game is mid that's when everyone
won't believe them, is what we're saying exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's also yeah that that says nothing about Northern Lion,
And just like that, what Mike said says nothing about Max.
Speaker 2: It's about the way the audience response I love, of course. Yep,
uh yeah, I will see again, looking forward to you
playing it.
Speaker 1: I will be watching every minute of that and I
and I'm gonna be playing some more over the weekend
so we'll have more to talk about. Uh okay, let's
see Sony's stitching the PlayStation network brand.
Speaker 2: Mike, Uh so I've heard that's a reporting is saying,
huh yeah, Insider Gaming had it, and everyone's like, yeah,
that's that sounds about right. Let's see it seems this
is primarily an excuse in tidying up, trying to remove
one of PlayStation's mini brands. The idea is, at this point,
what does PlayStation network really mean? Since everything is connected
and everything's online, and you should just think of station
and PlayStation network as one thing. Because effectively, as far
as Sony's concerned, they are I don't know.
Speaker 1: I still like PSN, but I also like, if it
goes away, it's not I will still just in my
head call at PSN.
Speaker 2: It will make no difference one way or the other, right,
I mean, I guess like parties like, yeah, what is PSN,
I'm like, that's, you know, the thing that as you
go on the internet. I guess you could just call
that the internet. Now you still are going to do,
pay for PlayStation Plus will still be a thing, right,
see still play for PlayStation Plus, and that's separ PSN.
I kind of already get it, because I'm already a
little confused trying to keep trying it, right, I'm already like, oh,
it feels like a rock of the era that brought
you Xbox Live Gold, right.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Xbox Live Silver even right, yeah, where, Yeah, it's
totally one of those things where oh, yeah, PlayStation Network
was not the thing you paid for. That was that
represented something before there was even a pay wall to
play online on PlayStation it was just their online network.
And then there was a store that's people just kind
of you know, swapped in the name PSN to also
mean the store, and then this is right, that's.
Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, that's what's a little confusing. Yeah, so
it just it.
Speaker 1: Is this like name that has now kind of out
in no man's land, and there are these things. There
is the PlayStation Store, there is PlayStation Plus, there is
the PlayStation and it's like there. I think they just
want to be like okay, and then PlayStation Network connects
all these things. Yeah, of course they're connected. It's twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 2: So I get it. It just it also feels like, hey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've moved on from some of these things. But
I do remember when PlayStation Network started, and it is
PSN is a term I use pretty frequently still.
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like, I mean, originally it was
just oh so there's Xbox Live and now there's PlayStation Network.
That was the original thing. In my mind, it was
just okay, they're catching up a little bit. And that's
the counterpoints. It's just like trophies are to achievements, and
though in that case the trophies became so much more
ambiguous ubiquitous than achievements. Ever did Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's do these next two stories, and then we'll wrap
up the news. Sony is quietly shutting down one of
two PlayStation VR two exclusives. Just wanted to get your
opinion on what happened with PSVR two this generation, Mike
and again they're.
Speaker 2: Shutting down is Firewall Ultra Uh it was?
Speaker 1: That's one of two exclusives or two Sony published PSVR
two games that ever happened. The other one Horizon called
The Mountain, and there's're shutting this one down. It will
not function starting in September. I believe, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because PSVR one was kind of surprisingly pretty popular. It
did pretty well. I think I think it was one
a lot to tell people, hey, buy another one of these,
because that first one was already expensive, and most people
liked it. I don't know if they all felt like
they got a great value from it. And also just
you know, VR's moment, which, if you can even call
it much of one, just seems to continue to pass
and pass and pass. I mean, gosh, even Meta, which
pivoted so hard into VR, it seems to be retreated
from that constantly to focus on other new dumb ventu
sure is the only person who seems to be excited
about it right now is Valve, and you know, it
is one of many buckets they are throwing their coins
into right yea, but yeah, you know, if they failed
to make it exciting, they obviously did not want to
devote their biggest brands to it in any meaningful way.
I know, at launched, we got some kind of Horizon
climbing game.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's Horizon, that's Horizon called the Wild Yes, yeah,
so that's that's the one other Sony published PSVR two game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it looks like a good game a
lot of ways, but it's just is it Is it
a killer app?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Is it obvious? I mean, and there were already very
good climbing games on VR.
Speaker 1: This one was just like that with the Horizon skin, which, man,
they pull out that strategy a lot, but I mean, whatever,
I don't need to criticize called the Wild Eye whatever,
I don't have any feelings to share that.
Speaker 2: And then like you know, still not able to get
halfway FOLLX on that platform in any way, which is
just the kind of way and I don't know if that
would have saved it. But it's weird.
Speaker 1: But it's telling. It's telling, right, it's telling. It says
that you know, one Valve didn't want to do the
work to go reach out to Sony to get it
on there because they didn't think it'd be worth it,
at least enough to make it actually happen, and Sony
didn't think it was worth putting the work to actually
make it happen. You would think that both parties involved
would be like, yeah, you know what, let's get together,
Let's get in a room and hash this out. Unless
PSVR two just doesn't matter, which I think very early on,
even before it came out, they were probably getting the
numbers saying it doesn't it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It's not going to sell.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna sell like a Connect obviously, it's not
going to sell like a PSVR one.
Speaker 2: It's not like a Connect two two. Yeah, it's like
a lot of these things. Like the first verson kind
of okay, and then the second one is.
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly PSB versus Vita. It's like Vita did okay,
but like it wasn't PSP and Sony did not support
it like it did the PSP all right, and then
Lego Party Update one point four point zero bonus bricks
me and Mike first in the world to try this out.
This was a lot of fun, right, yeah, this is
out now right, Yeah, I came out yesterday on the eighteenth.
Speaker 2: We got to play this with my brothers. Gosh, that
means I'm the first person to outside the studios ever win. Yeah,
congratulate a Lego party in this a lot of moon. Yeah. So,
you know, it's a few new things, some new two
two games based off some one v one game, some
new minifigs you can play as. But the bonus bricks
is great because it is that kind of Mario Party
style were at the end, like, oh, somebody gets a
brick for winning the most mini games. But there's you know,
there's a lot of different things it can be, and
you have to vote for which one's going to be,
including a question mark, so you can still do things
like well, I think I'm the one who jumped the
most during this mini game, so I want to I
hope people vote for that one. Or I know Jeff
landed on the most red spaces, so I'm gonna make
sure I don't vote for that one exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like stuff you can like try to pay
attention to, but it's mostly gonna be like, man, I
think that sounds right, maybe I did that or another one,
so like maybe maybe I'll get lucky. There was one
where like, I'm pretty sure I have this and it's
like no, Chris actually won that one, and that's what
put him back out ahead of me.
Speaker 2: So I finished last bonus. Brooks are great.
Speaker 1: They did an excellent job, and once again it's one
of those examples of they took it a concept that
is in Mario Party and they just made it better
in every conceivable way.
Speaker 2: And I just continue to respect that so much.
Speaker 1: I've said it a bunch of times now, firmly putting
that game in one of my favorite games of all
time like that would that would end up on my
top one hundred games of all time. Now, every time
we play it, I have a wonderful time. I can't
wait to play it again. It's it's so well done.
I hope they One thing people keep talking about is
a switch to version, because the switch one version is
a little bit underwhelming in terms of performance. Put out
a switch to version with the camera support so we
can just have the miscams in there. That would be
a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Because even Mario probably doesn't even really have that. When
they added that version is like a very separate single
player kind of game mode with the camera. It was
so weird that they do, but they do have like
the faces hovering over the characters.
Speaker 1: In the main one. Yes, but then the new like
fancy camera stuff. That was this weird separate local multiplayer
only thing that you did, which is still very funny.
Speaker 2: But not worthy worthy of Mario party. That was absurd. Okay,
that does it for the news.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's plenty of other stuff people want to
talk about, but we have the super Chuts chats coming up.
We could do that there, so let's take another break.
We'll come back and get into those right after this.
All right, we are back, Mike Manati, do me a
favorite and read those super chats.
Speaker 2: I got the super Chuts right here, buddy, Thanks Man Missouri.
Matt says, righteous dudes, launch. Look, I love it. Now.
I'm worried that like I'm worried that I have it's
going to come across like I have forced launch. Look,
even though not everyone's it's clear you haven't. It's clear
you haven't. Like you've been very clear that you have
not done that yet. I don't care. I don't want
to want to think, well, wow, Mike, Mike, Mike like
turned his army against Leus so he can get his way. Okay, okay,
let's let's let's go through the timeline a little bit.
You were the first one to bring it up publicly originally,
but then when a lot of other people in this
on the staff stood firmly against it, You're like, I'm
listening to you regardless of what I've activated here, And
that was immediately happened. So it did. The army got
turned on you. That was not your purpose.
Speaker 1: You were just like wondering why people didn't like the name,
and then that became a meme and a joke, and
people liked those jokes a lot.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think even the people who want to be
called Launcho now don't even like it. Actually, I've never
been more convinced that actually people dislike it. It HiT's a
bad name now.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, listen, though we are, we're out there representing Launch. Look,
everybody you could still call it launch. Look at you one,
no one, no one could stop you other than Sean.
Speaker 2: Nintendo, JOSEPHS. Hey, Jeff, sure, hope. I'm not paying to
regret this, but go habs go love you.
Speaker 1: Oh your regret it. I know they tied it up,
but I don't know. I'm not watching, so just let
me know if you regranted.
Speaker 2: It a miracle, says Mikey. It is my obligation to
be annoying about my favorite game. Let you know that
Mega Man and Proto Man are available next week and
Sonic Racing Cross the worlds. Okay, that's happened, right. I
was very excited about that announcement. I was wondering when
that's happening. So I will definitely try to look at
this one. I want to say. I'm say March twenty
fifth or twenty third. I think it's the time. Okay,
I want to see that. I hoped. I think there's
a track too. I hope there's a track associated with them.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be funny if we come back
next week and then we do one of those streams,
like you know, everyone's got to play a game because
it's Mikey Mikey's birthday, and it'll be me and back
of Our's birthday basically next week, and you can make
us all play this for our for our birthdays, Like, hey,
I got you something, play a Mega Man game thing
with me?
Speaker 2: There you go, So yeah, maybe we can do something
fun like that. T Bucket says, Jeff, would you describe
Crisson deats Er as the Taco town snl skid a
video games? Is it as bloated as a for I
Taka folded with a pizza and a pancake.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's certainly the Homer, like it's yeah,
it's it's definitely the Homer without.
Speaker 2: I understand that. Ty Morales says, great episode of Blake
Club guys YouTube out. My CC actually stopped me from
continuing super chat yesterday, but they can't keep me from
supporting all. Can't believe Dan was talking about practice, bluetube practice,
Marat about practice talking about practice. Yeah, gosh, I we
do need apologies again for I believe on this show
when I think it was that boy Jerry says, because
like we were talking about the Ripcord game. They were like,
is it Space Ace? And I was like, I don't
know that game, exob what are you talking about.
Speaker 3: The only time you guys have ever successfully no sold something.
Speaker 2: Very proud of ourselves. Yeah, we did a good job.
Speaker 1: I was afterwards. I think we went to the break.
I was not looking at checks. I didn't want to
like break or anything like that. So afterwards, during the
during the break, Sean was like, you guys did a
good job. Actually, Okay, thank god.
Speaker 2: Good job. I need to find a clip now of
that's just lying through our Yeah. Yeah, people are fan
of the way I say discrepancy in that moment, by
the way you nailed it.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's that Mikey cadence, that Mikey comedic timing.
The discrepancy gets hit in a very good way.
Speaker 2: Lex Luddy says, now, Matchine, you had to play one
hundred more hours of Crimson Desert, I would I don't
think I would ever play one hundred hours of a
game for review. Actually, I guess I definitely had to
play what like ninety hours of Persona five when I
did that. Yeah, there's even a part of me. It's
like I have to like what's yeah, what's that word meaning? Half?
There's always a part of me what I do that
I'm like, the economics of this don't make any sense?
Of course? Not no, no, did you think about it
from that perspective? Absolutely not, Like so many ways like
what I do I do it here I reviewed this
super long video gime. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: Even like, oh gush, I need to play more of
a Crimson Sky or christ Crimson Desert before we do
a quick look. And at a point, I'm like, I
think if I played fifty more hours of this, I
would basically still be in the same position. We might
as well make this quick look. Let's just figure out
this early part of the game together, and that's what
the quick look is.
Speaker 2: Everybody, uh super blastic says hell, Yes, I love TMNT two.
I went to traditional pre fight donuts. I also nabbed
a Yoshi popcorn bucket. Oh cool, I didn't see aything. Yeah,
that's just again, like if there's so many lines of
that movie I just hear ringing through my head all
the time a little too raf, like whoa, where's the quarter? Gosh? Yeah,
all the good ones end in Oh gosh, just.
Speaker 1: A long time since I've seen Secret of the Ooze, Mike,
I'll watch that here soon. I put on the first
one for the kids, and I'm thinking maybe I should
just put on the second one because they didn't get
into that first movie, so yeah, maybe the second one
will do the trick.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, it's like it really was a core memory
that VHS getting in and like this was I feel
like when I grew up was one, and I'm sure
this still happens in certain areas, but it felt like
one of the last times, at least in this area
where we kids just wandered around the neighborhood, even though
it was like three or four. It's just you know,
during the day, if the weather was nice, you just
kind of walked around out the streets.
Speaker 1: Down the street, we went down to the creek. That's
why I went down to the creek every day when
I was four. Yeah, yeah, And I remember, just like
I had the VHS.
Speaker 2: I just started literally parading around the neighborhood like holding
above my head like I was fucking noses and like
I had a parade of kids behind me. We just
went back to my home and we were all in
the porch. There's a little TV, like a shitty little
TV there. We gather around it and watched Team at
T two. It's such a core memory, that's for me.
They're like that VHS I just had forever. Still do
have it somewhere. I just I don't know anytime I'll
anytime I was like oh dah, or just feeling nostalgic,
I would just pop that thing in and felt amazing. Huh,
I want, I want? Uh?
Speaker 1: I want to Calvin and Hobbes style piece of art
of Mike as a little kid leading a parade, and
I'll put that on a T shirt and put that
in the store.
Speaker 2: That's why I would wear that. That sounds awesome.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Next up is from Jedi moss y'all need to try
Dead Zone Rogue. Indie game just came out and Switch two.
It's a good roguelike FPS and has online coup and
a forty FPS mode on Switch too. It was in
that direct right. Let me see that the name is
not great gosh, it's a It's on sale on Steam
right now, dead Zone Rogue. Oh gosh, this looks nice
on Steam even I might really want to try it. Hair. So,
if it's a ruguel like FPS is is this? Is
this a a Sorrows like or a reternal like it like?
Speaker 1: It looked like a very light version of Returnal. I
remember thinking that during I think I even said it
during the during our talkover. It's not exactly like the
dodging bullet hell sort of game that Returnal is, but
it looks fairly close.
Speaker 2: Cool stuff. Then Mike came and says Hello, Mike, I
find joy another suffering Mananni and Jeff. I have played
only one week of Blake Club in less seven months. Group.
Love you guys and what you do. Thank you for
all your hard work. I mean the was supposed to
start in November and then I immediately had to play
uh fucking lucut Larry instead, So gosh, yeah you're next.
I I have a game, like a normal Blake Club
game that I want either you or Dan to play,
and I'm just trying to figure out which one of
you I want to play more than I think I
could talk the other one into it. Uh, but I
think it'll be a good one. But yeah, like you know,
at some point here, when Dan finishes space Ace, which
he does, when that will be when that happens, it
will just be your actual turn. No it won't. Oh
that's right, Dellar, Right, this is crazy. It just can't.
It's crazy. It started to get him surt, like it
used to be like, oh, Grub gets these unfair long games,
and I'm like, yeah, you know what, things should turn
back in my favor. It's gone so far in the
other direction now it is. Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, why
did we let Ben Hanson dictate this to us. Uh.
Ben Hanson has some sort of magic spell over Dan.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like they were having this conversation and I was just like,
am I hearing this right?
Speaker 2: Guys? Should I should I step in? I'm like, I
think Dan has a handle on it. He didn't. He
did not have a handle on this. Uh, that's up
as fire, says Max Rebot. That is all hello Blue Tube. Yeah,
yourx reboke comment during Space Ace, Oh, that all's I
was so happy with everything with the Space Sace. I
was even a little happy that it didn't because I
didn't want to destroy him so much that he just
was like, oh, I give up, and we have to
do a space mutant. And you know, I think it'd
be a small tan on Blake Club if someone does
quit their game, and I didn't want to see that,
but it's definitely I'll tell you soon. We're gonna have
the thing on premium, a giant bun where you can
watch me playing spaces myself to test it out. And
it's funny because I literally died the first time the
exact same way he does. And it really was almost
then when I got shot by that laser. I was like, oh,
he has to play because I do like he's gonna
get shot right away and he's gonna die.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very funny. God it it was so funny.
This is really good work. I'm I'm enjoying it so much.
Speaker 2: And then we got from Andrew wilson Compendium Andrew Wilson's
Compendium of Darts. I'm guessing, what is the best licensed
music truck in any EA sports or racing game? But
this is I don't know. I didn't play a lot
of E sports A racing games. My favorite racing games
have their own soundtracks, right like yes as zero g
X or Ridge Racer Type four, or they just have
Star Wars music and episode only on the last slap
though of the track, of course, Yeah, yeah exactly. So
I don't, I don't. I'd have to, like, yeah, I'd
have to go look some stuff up.
Speaker 1: It are we talking e A tracks with an X?
Speaker 2: I guess the need for speed games have licensed music,
but again I'd never worry with first. Yeah, not a
big need for speedhead Beatle Adventure Racing is an e
A game. I don't remember the music though, I'm gonna
just look up the need for Speed Underground soundtrack and
say that my favorite song on it is two Lane
black Top by Rob Zombie.
Speaker 1: I'll say Dragula by Rob Zombie because I bet it's
in one of those games.
Speaker 2: There you go. Okay, next up? Isn't Tony Tony? He says, Hi,
I want sickles who love the NSO play test? Uh A,
Bretzy's rock Stock? Is that the internal name for it
rock Stock? I haven't heard rock stock before. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what what is this play test?
Speaker 2: I didn't. I've never heard rock stock for the playtest.
I've never heard of it. I mean you say that
I kind of understand what it might be called that
uh to taka music was a dream. The aesthetic felt
made for me. But Pocopia story slash onboarding is a
gut punch lesson for it. When would they even release
it now? It is? It did occur to me that
Pocopia did kind of feel like a better version of
that NSO play test thing that I was. Oh, I
get it, I get what you mean. I mean it
is certainly a game that is like has a similar
vibe and has building and does so in a way
that you know where Procopia is just gonna has taken
over the world, and I don't know if that playtest
has that kind of juice. Yeah, there's a part of
me it's like, maybe you try to make a pro
copy online thing. But obviously there's definitely something to that
play Desksie. Apparently Rockstock is like a data mind code
name for it. It makes sense. I see it. I'm
gonna be curious to see what. I kind of don't
want another play desk at this point. I want to
see them say like, hey, here's this game. I want
them to announce that game as a real video game
with a dad.
Speaker 1: I mean again, it has a full online soundtrack or
full original soundtrack, so I would assume that they plan
to release that game.
Speaker 2: It's weird they have not. Cody Bishop says, tell me
about the crazy guy who let all those lions, wolves
and bears. I have this homemade zoo in Ohio a
few years ago, and they attacked the town man. We
had a meteor incident this week. I expect to remember
this thing, right, this is just a Tuesday for us, guys.
Come on, this is nothing I saw something about like
this week in Ohio high of seventy major snowfall meteor.
It's been a weird week here every well, it's the
end times in Ohio. Like you, Chris Pratt, Wahoo says man,
I remember being a kid and playing Mario World on
the arcade, jumping on that Joshua. So happy to see
that green dragon in the big screen memory. I'm glad
to have you here. Chris Pratt, who that ma Mario
was gonna be souon? Did you see like the kind
of teaser for Sonic four. I don't know if I did.
There's like a verse of ball teaser, mostly just showing
characters reflected in chaos emworlds, which surprise seems like Jim
Carrey's gonna be back again. So this will be the
second time in a row where he appears to die
in the last movie and he's just coming back anyways,
you know what, I'm all for it, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Like did he die or did his grandpa or father
they died his grandfather?
Speaker 2: Definitely? Yes, it super he had a pretty implied heroic
deaf thing. But the great thing about the trailer is
that there's a bit there where you can hear like
the beat from the Sonic Boom song from the intro
of the US version of Sonic CD. Oh okay, oh
that's awesome, right, which like, just like how Sonic three
was a loose adaptation of Sock Adventure two, the idea
that this movie made it any way be a loose
adaptation of Sonic CD, which was the first Amy Rose game.
So it makes some sense that that does strike my fancy. Jeff,
I have to say, I just I just want another
Jim Carrey dance number. I do. I should find that
very enjoyable in Sonic three. Also, like you know, they
not some other cast people. Nick Offerman's in it, and
I think a lot of people are just assuming he's
gonna be Big the Cat. There's not been an allience movie.
As soon as I heard them, like, I would like that. Yeah,
that works.
Speaker 1: I think it's a surprising choice because I Big the Cat.
I kind of hear his dopey maybe having a dopey
character like that, he must.
Speaker 2: Be in the again in like the old that South
Park episode about the cartoon characters that the summer, right
can't exactly we don't need to do that anymore. We
just not do that anymore, right, So yeah, I think
Offerman is the new direction for Big the Cat. I
think that's good. That sounds great. Let's see her now.
Tuber says, Bob Backer, don't forgot to space and newter
your ace. I get it, Bob back it, don't. I've
been getting kind of my my childhood members is getting
ruined becuse apparently it was a very toxic and inappropriate
workplace on the price is right under bob actual name.
Now I just hear bat Barker Dart Yeah, yeah, uh yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean all those game show hosts like that sort
of energy that they brought. Turns out that's the same
energy you bring to sexually harassed someone, So yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2: These pitches love Sosa says everyone needs to check out
the Snoop Dog remix of Riders on the Storm by
the Doors from Knee for Speed Underground two cylinder stuck
in eminem tube.
Speaker 1: That's so weird you say that, and now you've like activated,
I remember that song.
Speaker 2: Now. I definitely played a lot of.
Speaker 1: Those Need for Speed games back then, especially like on
the GameCube. I think I had that disc in my
car the GameCube needed for Speed Underground two disc loose
on like the floor for a couple of years, and
then I bought a new car and then I ended
up putting. I took it and I just put it
in my dash. It might still be in my glove
box in the minivan. I'm gonna go check. I'll report
back everybody next time we do an episode.
Speaker 2: Drum Kid says, you guys have been working hard to
make on all the Bombathon goals this year. Thank you.
House to bounce right now. Things you want to do
and things you're obligated to do looptube. Yeah, we had
a meeting recently where we're like kind of going through
things or trying to make sure we're not falling behind it.
There definitely is like a bit of a like, oh boy,
we gotta do these things, but there's still room to
do some fun things. Honestly, the premium show space is
kind of where it makes sense like Okay, let's let's
do this, and when when one premium show it ends,
we can maybe have another idea that we can pop
off over there. It's for me. It is like some
of the big deliverables we talked about where it's like,
oh my gosh, a road trip, what is that going
to look like? What does that mean, how does that
get organized? I suppose like things like fishing Week. I'm like, okay, yeah,
sure that'll be fun. Fishing will be easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've done We've already done weeks before and that,
you know, come up with a list of games, come
up with a couple of challenges or something like that.
That's easy to do, and it's kind of fun to
look forward to. Glad that we have it, like an obligation.
So it's like, oh, we got to do it. And
there's like we're looking at stuff like International Fishing Go
Fishing Day.
Speaker 2: And say maybe we could do it. Then we'll see.
It's fun to plan it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bigger ones, like the road trip, it's like, okay,
we had to really get serious about planning that and
the logistics of it. We're still kind of ironing in
out all those details, but we have a much better
idea of what that looks like. And I booked or
mostly of book Dan's catch me if you Dan. So
that's gonna that's gonna be a real fun one. Everybody
look forward to that in the second half of the year.
Speaker 2: I mean, I honestly like the thing that's almost stressful
right now is Oh my god, Summer game Fests is
happening like sooner than we think, and we actually need
to start planning for that yesterday. Yeah, that's the big
that's the big, most important thing right now, right because
you just want to think about packs at this moment,
it's like, oh no, summer game best and then once
that starts, the whole like back half of the year
could be wild because you know, we'll you know, do
another bombathon. Then there's going to be the Game Awards.
We got to do Game of the Year again. Right,
the beat goes on. But that is it for the
Superchuds right now. Jeff, thank you so much everybody. If
you would like to send in any more super Chuds,
you can still do so during the show. We will
read them before we wrap up. All right, thank you everyone,
Thank you Mike, thank you everybody for sending those in.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We are going to take another break. We come back there.
It is everybody. The hat will be right back.
Speaker 2: It's a hat. Benadi's back. I'm back. It's the sides.
Speaker 1: We are going to uh just really just get deep
in there into that hat. Find the best questions for
Mike and the audience. You've been, I know, adding stuff
to the hat, and the format is always uh, what
is the or something that is the greatest blanker?
Speaker 2: What is the greatest blank of all time? Right? Are
written on these little pieces of paper in here, some
by me, some by our community Patreon members for the
game mess You can gonna join that yourself if you
would like to contribute to the hat. I've got a
bunch of slips of paper in here, uh added if
you just a bit ago. We've got some fresh runs,
we got some old ones, some that I bets I
don't even remember putting in here anymore at this point, Uh,
what do you say I get in? Do you want
to go deep? You want me to go off the
top on this one, Jeff the first Let's let's let's
start on the surface. Actually, okay, okay, I got one
right here, right on the surf. Okay, everybody, it might
get wacky here. What is the greatest original Xbox game
of all time? A very normal video game one. They're
not all video game related, believe it or not, but
that no. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In fact, sometimes we go quite a few before we
get back to a video game one, which is always fine.
Speaker 2: That's fine. Okay, I mean, I do think it's pretty hard.
Speaker 1: To argue against Halo Combat of Wold, So let's get
that out of the way and kind of set it
out there and recognize that we're gonna have to deal
with that. But I I would not necessarily pick it myself.
Speaker 2: I do have another one in mind.
Speaker 1: That's like, I personally think that this is the best
original Xbox game, and it is something I mostly associate
with the original Xbox and I think there's a chance
that we might even have a little bit of consensus
on this.
Speaker 2: And I'm saying a chance, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know, you can come at me with Crimson Skies
or something else.
Speaker 2: Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic. Yeah, Star Wars,
I say a Republic is fantastic and like that. And
mar went around that time where a big moment of like, oh,
you know, we've had j RPG's well, but now here's
that other brand of RPG that used to kind of
just be on computers and ooh, that's kind of really
that works pretty well on consoles these days. And then
like you know, with three sixty, that explodes even more
so with Oblivion Skyrims, mass effects, your Dragon ages things
like that, and Kotor is still just such a cool game,
such a good game, probably the best Star Wars game.
Tons of great character customization you can do there, it's
a fun story, it's got one of the best plot
twists of all time, so many interesting worlds that you
can explore there, and it really is like it holds
up the RPG and of the bargain really well, where
there are some interesting ways you can approach things there.
So is it the best. Halo one obviously is a
great game, and I respect it a ton more so
than even Halo two. I know, Halo two gets a
lot of love because of the x Box Live aspect
of it, but even you know, on the flip side,
Halo one, with just the kind of land stuff people
are doing, even just the screen stuff where people are
doing with super.
Speaker 1: Getting into Ethernet cables at colleges and playing you know
that way, I always thought that was.
Speaker 2: The coolest thing in the world. And even though you know,
I know, the campaign has some issues, but that campaign
is so much stickier to me than Halo's Halo Two's,
especially with Halo two's non ending situation there. So yeah,
if it was a Halo B Halo one for me,
not Halo two. Yeah. I love Crimsons guys for sure,
even I would not call it the best Xbox game. Yeah,
I'm the most underappreciated one, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that. I you know, Forts Simotorsport
very very good. I just it's hard for me to
be like, that's the best Xbox game because it just
feels like racing games were really established at that at
that point with Grand Turismo and Fort Simotorsport was a
very good one of those, and then like Ninja Guide
in Black, I could see an argument for that.
Speaker 2: It's grindbacks very very good. That was at the time
that game was so highly reviewed. Ninja Guid, Yeah, yeah,
know what you mean, right, But yeah, you know that's
that was a big game for that platform for sure,
and it's definitely one of the better ones. But also,
like having played it a few years ago, I think
that game kind of it sort of peaks and then
it kind of it gets a little I don't know
if the stale is the word, but it's better in
the beginning when you're going through like the Ninja environments
and like you're on a hot air ball, and then
the end, you're like, in hell begins to wear a
little thin. I suppose Burnout three is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly maybe the game I go back to
and have the most fun with is Burnout three.
Speaker 2: Uh somebody who play Jade Empire, Jason Finelli, That's is
on my to do list at some point. Yeah, And
there's a there's a you know, something I descared the
last few years is how many good og Xbox games
there are. Seya came out on that system really strong,
with stuff like Outrun to Jets at Radio Future, Panzer, Dragoon, Orsa.
So yeah, tons tons of good game stuff there. Escape
from Butcher Bay, that's a good That's a good one
there for sure. But I actually do think it's somewhat
easily Coe Tour. It is a game I still associate
with the original Xbox and gosh, just every time I
think about that game, I'm like, now that's a video game, Gosh,
darn it. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I I you know, I got an Xbox and I
got Burnout three, and I you know, had Halo two
and I had Co Tour, and that immediately became a
really good console because of those games. It was a
really good time but Kotor was the standout for me
in that moment for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Darth Revan. That's a cool Character's so
many cool characters, all right, h K foury seven of course,
Darth Revans. Yeah, gosh, gosh, gosh. Malick something about something
about when you do the light side ending there and
you like you sort of congesture at redeeming Malik at
the end after you beat him, something about like that's
powerful stuff. Darned it makes me emotion. Nogon, uh huh, gosh,
it's sweet. All right, I'm gonna go deep this time. Then, Okay,
we got what is the greatest tree of all time?
Speaker 1: Okay, I have pretty strong opinions on this. Okay, I'd
love to hear them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like trees a lot, and I have two that
immediately jump to mind, maybe three h the two that
jump to mind immediately, I think there it's very easy.
But I think there's a reason it's very easy to
go with this one. The redwood trees, the sequoias in the.
Speaker 2: Redwood forest, the indoor trees, the indoor trees, really big
fucking trees that are hundreds of feet tall. That's awesome.
That's just really cool. And those trees are really cool.
Speaker 1: And then the other one are weeping willows, right, yes,
weeping with a great name like those willows. Certain they
drape down, they're beautiful, they provide good shade. They're a
bit messy. They create quite a bit of a sort
of a mess in your yard if you have one.
But that doesn't you can go to a park and
enjoy it, and that's someone else's problem.
Speaker 2: And they are a tree you can like enjoy, like
go and actually look at it, like, man, that's a
cool looking tree. It's nice.
Speaker 1: I can sit under this and get the most out
of it. I'm split between those two. I think I
would lean towards the redwoods, the sequoias.
Speaker 2: What about the humble maple, Jeff, which is I appreciate it. It's
a beautiful tree, and it's a tree that was really
pretty during the fall. And the syrup right, like, yeah, gosh,
and can't deny the syrup. I love the syrup. Big
fan of the syrup. I also like birch trees.
Speaker 1: Now that like the birch trees that that's the ones
with the white bark, and we have a lot of
those up in the Midwest, especially up in Michigan, and
I really like those because when they would fall down
and they'd be dead in winter, you could take the
bark and there's a tiny bit of alcohol in the bark,
so they it burns really good and made it very
easy to start fires in the dead of winter. And
you know, I don't think you can get well listen,
I never tried. I was a kid, but I should have.
At the very least, though, you could just start fires
and then they are really pretty. That that white bark
was really stark and nice to look at.
Speaker 2: Uh. Is there a weep inside you that wants to
say a cherry blossom tree, cherry blossom this? Yes?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely and uh and going to a cherry blossom
festival and I you know the cherry you know, I
do go to the cherry festival in up in Traverse
in Michigan.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of cherry trees up there, and they're
beautiful up there. I could hear it.
Speaker 1: For cherry trees that is one that is worth traveling to,
like Japan or Washington, d c. For when they're when
they're blossoming. I I want to do. I want to
hold it against them that they blossom so quickly and
you miss it kind of not that makes it more special, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing nothing wrong with yeah, you know, being too quick.
I don't think it's palm trees.
Speaker 1: I see some palm trees and chat too gimmicky, too warm.
Speaker 2: I get I get it, boys, I mean, and I
haven't heard any bad ideas here, Jeff. I'm going to
leave it to you, though, which one do you feel
the most strongly about? You know what?
Speaker 1: A little bit won over by cherry trees there at
the end, And like I said, I do travel specifically
to go enjoy those trees. Now we get the harvest
of the cherries mostly when we go up to that
festival up there, but still we enjoy those trees.
Speaker 2: I guess. So now it's cherry trees. Is a cherry
tree different from a cherry blossom tree? Or is a
cherry bossom tree just a cherry tree that's blossoming.
Speaker 1: Well, I know the cherry trees that I have that
they blossom to they maybe they don't have the same
kind of blossoms, but it is a flowering tree, the
cherry tree.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right, I just want to make sure
I'm breaking down the right show what is the You
could just say cherry blossoms, like cherry bossom tree, the
name of the cherry bloss I got this, I got this.
I'm gonna ask a computer that's what they're there for. Well,
it's oh making a real we've been call them soccer
at trees. Absolutely all right, so perfect, just like the
street Fighter character. Fantastic all right? Yeah, should we say
deku real quick? Should we just say that? Yeah? What
are you a fucking loser? Thank you for not saying apple.
All right, I'm gonna shake this sign thing. I I know.
Better make sure we get some really good ones moving
around in here. Sometimes they get shy, shake them up
a bit, they float up to the top, like this
one right here, Jeff Grub, what is the greatest Saccaro
boss of all time? Oh? This is good. This is
a good one. So I always did like because h
is that? That's yeah? Yeah, that's the one that was like, man,
this game really clicked at that point. The first fight,
that is you do fighting twice, right, I F a
few you fight them and perhaps some spoilers for Sacra
everybody and telling your sensitive you find the very beginning
you're kind of supposed to lose, but you can win.
Then you have a real boss fight with him in
the middle, and then the last boss fight. The first
phase of it is just a Gane Troo rematch, but
the big one is that middle one that you're talking with, right, yes, yes, yes, right,
And that's when it's super clicked for me.
Speaker 1: I of course, you know, actually, you know what, by
the time I got to Ishan the swords saying, the
game clicked click clicked through me so hard that that
it was just like I was so in the zone
that it was that was not much of a trouble
for me. I for me, it was always like going
there and finally beating the Demon of Hatred is the
one that was more memorable for me because it was
gave me so much trouble at first. So I really
like Ishan and maybe it's like that, like that should
feel like a reward, and that boss fight is just
fucking cool. I would go get Niatro or Great Ape
the Ape fight, like that's that's that's so cool.
Speaker 2: I fucking love that Great Hig fight. Man, I think
that's so amazing. So I think it's fun. I think
that the kind of combat The Guardian Ape. I think
the combat tells are sort of a sort of a
perfect blend of, you know, being easy enough to read
but still challenging, even even with things like when he
does that tantrum and it looks like nonsense, but you
get the rhythm of that and you're you're perrying the
tantrum little flailing around one of the all time great
fake outs in a video game. With the with the
other phase there of course, and they there's like the
really big swing where the camera even kind of moves down.
It's just screaming, got you, perry you do? And it
feels so freaking good. I like Guardian Ape a lot.
Al is also obviously very good, and there's there's two outfits.
The second halt fight really difficulty even has that kind
of guardian spirit of the owl there too, But and
I like eachan quite a bit. Yes, it I do
like a lot, but I think I would say Guardian
Ape that's probably my favorite. I would I would go
with Guardian Ape.
Speaker 1: It's it's super memorable and it lives up to all
the hype that people give it, uh and not just
because of the twist, not just because of the phases.
Speaker 2: It's just great throughout and it has such a unique look.
And also, like you know, there's mechanics of it that
aren't obviously maybe you won't learn, but they couldn't help.
Like the fact that that spear is strong and gets
the little worm inside of his neck and that can
help you out. Gosh, send a picture, right and al,
I forgot about it? Ol those those Oh, I mean,
it's a game with a ton of amazing boss fights.
Speaker 1: The puile fight, the one, the one where it's like
you're just fighting al no gimmicks, that one very yeah.
Speaker 2: But Guardian Ape, that's it. Guardian Ape is my favorite.
I mean that, Yeah, I love that boss all right.
It's off here to v a game one chicking the
hat up for sure, Let's get a good one here, Uh,
dross my hand around, see which one really wants to stick?
All right? What is the greatest X button of all time? Oh? Shit?
Speaker 1: Interesting, I kind of want to just give it to
I know it's a cross, but I mean you'll never
catch me fucking saying that, Uh, PlayStation.
Speaker 2: Kind of want to just give it to PlayStation. It's
a good X button, right, It's it's the one that
your thumb naturally rests on right of all the face buttons,
you're probably mostly ready to press that south position. I
guess that's you know. The weird thing right is that
Xbox has the X in the west position. I love
that button too. To be clear, that's a good one.
That's good. Hitting X to attack is like a default
brain sort of setting for me. I will say. The
one I always had to kind of reprogram my reprogram
myself for a little bit is Nintendo with the Xbox
on the north north. Yep. That one always throws me
for for some reason.
Speaker 1: Like and I we're gonna do a Nintendo X button,
I would I would hear you out on game Cube.
Speaker 2: The weird weird being even then something I'm like, you know,
which one of these is X and which one of
these beans? I think that's I think it's east on
game game. It is the X has been in all
the carnival directions, We've had the X fucking it. And
then yeah, you can say spots the Xbox controer has
a second X in the middle. There, Yes, the Xbox button.
Speaker 1: Which is an X. So it's an X button. Yeah,
are there any weird ones we're forgetting about?
Speaker 2: Any other X X buttons. I'm trying to think, I don't.
I think most people that just copy a copy of
the Xbox layout or you're the turbographics and you had
just like row Ma numeral one button and the roal
Ma numeral two button, right, yeah, I mean there is
the keyboard X button with keyboard X. I like that.
I find some things there. It's kind of it's kind
of a wild car button, like whatever I want to
but here I can because you know, it's pretty close
to w A. It's not as easy to hit from
was the s Q E R or F is. But
that's nice to have. It's nice to have. It's a
usable button, for sure. It's a usable button. I think
it has to be PlayStation or Xbox I agree, and
something about that. There is a little bit of weirdness,
especially in early PlayStation history, where there was a discrepancy
between the American and Japan. X means no or X
means confirm, right right, in Japan it meant no and
circle was like like, okay, we're circle means go and
and X means stop, and so circles go yes, and
that was that was weird and a lot of early
jepard or yeah, early PlayStation games, you go back and
play it, so what's happening here? It's like, oh yeah,
this is a Japanese Pearsall was always the hardest one
for me. It's like push circle to confirm. I'm like,
I'm gonna push X. I don't know why, so hm hmm.
But it could still be that could be x Box.
Are you leaning PlayStation?
Speaker 1: I mean, I was going to bring up that that
fact about the PlayStation one, in that it's like it's
it's purity is maybe a little bit question, whereas like
that X on the Xbox controller is it's always been
what it what it needs to be, and like when
you go to press that button on in a game
on the Xbox controller on the Xbox around PC, it's
probably gonna do what you expect it to.
Speaker 2: Do, like throughout all iterations.
Speaker 1: And I kind of I do respect that. But the
PlayStation X button has been around longer, so of course
it has a messier history and it's pretty well established
at this point, so I kind of don't want to
hold that against it.
Speaker 2: We already we already have Sean and Chat telling us
that it's not actually an ex button, and gosh, you
know that makes me dislike it even more already.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't want to hold that against it,
but I also don't want to deal with Sean's shit,
So yeah, I don't if.
Speaker 2: If that's the excuse, I'm happy to go with Xbox
and Xbox it is all right there, it is, everybody,
all right, it is it is.
Speaker 1: Yes, the X button is not even a cross button.
It's a two button because there's two lines.
Speaker 3: Also, specifically, the Xbox three sixty X bun that, like
gimmering blue, is also the one that gets meaned all
the time, like press X to doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeare's a good point. I like that, all right, I'll sure,
I say, Xbox three sixty. There you go, I've specified
all right, get in this hat again. We've got some
good ones today. I feel like there's plenty of more
good ones in here, that's for sure. I'm gonna get
in the middle. In the middle. This one caught my fancy.
I put this one in today. This is exciting, Jeff,
what is the greatest superhero game? Oh time? Ooh, this
is interesting because uh, let me talked about this before.
Used to be a very prevalent genre in these days.
I feel like more superhero games get canceled than actually release.
You did the math in the last couple of years, maybe, like, what,
how many have come out that aren't Spider Man recently? Yeah,
it's a I mean, we're gonna get like smaller ones
like Invincible verses and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, that'll
count for sure, that for sure. Okay, some of the
great ones. I mean what okay, if we were going
to just talk about the Spider Man's which is the
one you're throwing in here, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, look, obviously the newer Spider Man. I might go
with Miles Morales because that one's just such a pure
good time. I really like Spider Man two, and I
really like Spider Man one. Honestly, though, personally, I would
go with the original movie spider Man two because it
got the swinging right originally and that was such a
huge part of it, and that game has a lot
of the core components that eventually made those those insomniac
Spider Man games just as good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that. I can see that point.
I mean, I guess I'd have a harder arguing I
enjoy I'd rather play that than just play Miles Morales now,
which is such a good feeling oh yeah, video game,
and it doesn't, even though Spider Man two basically feels
the same way and it's just bigger. I'm talking about
the new Spider Man two. Something about it doesn't doesn't
come together quite as nicely as a Miles Morales or
maybe even that first spider Man one did for me.
I don't know. Okay, so it's one of it's either
Miles Morales or og spider Man two. Yeah, for the
Spider Man games. Yeah. Then the next kind of big
video game superhero franchise is Batman with the kind.
Speaker 1: Of asylum I'm heavy on Asylum. That's just you know,
no quote, no doubt about that one for me, and.
Speaker 2: For me it's like a fifty to fifty asylum or city.
So when if you feel more strongly about asylum, I'll
go asylum. I could just say asylum. Because that game,
it's fantastic. That combat was a ton of fun. Uh,
just the metro Vina ness of it all. Just a
good feeling game, I do. I like that open world
in City quite a lot. I think it was a
ton of funk sport and I really liked getting all
the riller's statues or things like that. They're both good games.
Both of them kind of take weird acts three twist
things that don't necessarily superwork, but whatever.
Speaker 1: What are the other possibles are what we talk about
like X Men Legends, Marvel Ultimate Alliance.
Speaker 2: I like more, I like, I mean, I like Marveltimate
Alliance quite a bit. I don't think it hangs with
you like I'm trying to think of which other ones
hang in this realm, Like Ultimate Destruction Hall is very good,
It's it's really good. That is one you can go
back to today and have a lot of fun with
for sure.
Speaker 1: Like it's I don't know if it holds up throughout
the entire game. It's just like, oh man, this rules
to play for half an hour. And I'm not saying
like like becomes bad or anything, but it's it is
very much the Pepsi challenge thing of in the immediacy
of picking up that game, you are you're gonna have
fun right away.
Speaker 2: Okay, a couple of things here. One let's consider X
Men Arcade and then also this Marvel versus Capcom two count.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're saying the reason it might not count
is because it has capcom characters.
Speaker 2: Is that is that what we're thinking? I guess is
that a reason why it doesn't count because like like
like hero game, right, there's like x like the X Men,
Children of the Atom definitely counts. Obviously, superheroes, Yeah, markl
Supero obviously just counts. As like the fact that it's
a crossover game is a suddenly not count I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, aren't many of those capcom characters superheroes? Like Prototype counts, right,
that's the Infamous counts. Those are superhero games that where
I'm talking superheroes, that's I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about X Men. First people are Antonio
Morales's no Gokus is I don't think. I don't know
if I don't know, if I don't know, if I
don't know, if that's a go Kus situation. So it's
a weirder other thing. Yeah, yeah, it's a but Okay,
I guess I guess when I say superhero games, there's
a part of me it's like that's not what I mean.
I get that gut reaction like some of someone just
said Dispatch Dan Jason Nelly saying Dispatch that's a hero game. Yeah,
it's really good, and it has it has more nip
slips than the other ones. That's true. So I do
like that X Men arcade beat him up a lot.
It's fun it it kind of had its time and
placing the arcade. Even once we get the port of it,
I'm gonna enjoy playing through it, but it's not. Those
things are never the same playing at home. It's great
to have it, but something about that arcade vibe Guards
of the Galaxy.
Speaker 1: Jeff, I was just gonna bring up Guardians of the Galaxy,
and then people started saying it in the chat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker 1: It's one of those ones that just wins you over
with its charms and its characters and its story. It
plays okay, and then it sort of builds up into
greater than the sum of its parts, just through sheer
force of will of how cool the characters are.
Speaker 2: It's definitely should.
Speaker 1: Get mentioned here. I'm happy to have that happened. Oh no,
I just got a text from Greg Miller who said
DC Universe online. I'm blocking his number. Everybody, don't work.
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be DC versus Mortal
Kombat or whatever. City of Heroes though that was fun
for a while. Yeah, sure, can we get a CLASSUS
War please? There you go. I am gonna be happy
when we could play that again. I liked that Deadpool game.
Dextroid actually yeah, X Wolverine, Yeah, yeah, there's a lot
of good ones. I look, I think it's probably Arkham Asylum.
It's so freaking good. Me too. It's incredible, And it
was like, it's so funny because before that, it was
like Batman video games always suck, and I was like,
you got any more of those Batman video games? Everybody
copied it, and then it became even tires even with
in the Xbox three sixty generation, people are like, boy,
every game has become Batman Arkham Asylum all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: Huh yep, I h I That's one of those games
where I kind of wormed my wormed my way into
getting a review copy, and I was just like, oh man,
I can't believe this game is as good as it is.
Speaker 2: Is it as good as it I think it's very
very good.
Speaker 1: And then having it come out and everyone's like, yeah,
this is game of the year material, and it's still
one where yeah, it just holds up as such a
perfect example of what a game can be.
Speaker 2: It's Arkham Asylum. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, even
even if you could say, like you know, I like
Mars's Capcom in my one hundred game. Bleit's a tigre.
But like if you ask me what's the best superhero game?
But this best fighting game? Maybe, then I it's a
different story, all right, blank asks is Overwatch Superheroes? So I'm
gonna leave that to you. Kind yeah, but like not
what I mean, not primarily, you know, Okay, you know
what I mean again, it's a little bit of man,
not what I mean. All right, bet man, we want
to do one more of the hat. Yes, let's do
one more. That sounds great. One more everybody superhero one
or two words for you? Oh? I think it's one
word for me? All right, I'm good. I think I
do that.
Speaker 1: I think Marvel says it's two, So let's make it one.
Speaker 2: I like that, all right. Still, no great Superman game. Huh?
What a shame? All right, Jeff, really bad one? Oh Jesus,
one jumped out my hand there. Oh, no wonder because
that's a hot one. This is a hot one. I
believe this has happened. What is the greatest PlayStation one
game of all time?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well there's only there's only four thousand
to choose from.
Speaker 2: So that is that is one of the hardest consoles
you can get. For this question, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Grub Yeah, man, oh god, there are so many possibilities here.
I don't know if I want to throw it like
the one that like my my small tiny hil Mary
early and see where it lands with you. I think
I should just to kind of get it out of
the way because there's so many other obvious ones. What
would you feel about Castlevania Symphony of the Night. I
think it'd be strongly considered, is what I think. Okay, okay, cool,
I I just I think strongly considered is fair for
that game. Let's just go from there. But I wouldn't
be mad about that. That's a game that is a
very good game, kind of perfer. Yeah, it's an incredible game.
Speaker 2: I think the one I would probably say is Metal
Gear Solidous. It is so quintessential. I think it's so good.
I know you have not had a ton of experience
with the franchise I am about Meddle Gear Solid.
Speaker 1: I went to my I went up to my brother's
house and got on his PlayStation up in like I
was living in Ohio. We went up to Michigan. He
had a PlayStation. I bought the game to play at
his house. I played Metal Gear Solid right away as
soon as I could, and I love that game.
Speaker 2: That was a jaw dropping video game for me, like
I will still just I still think about that period
of time in nineteen ninety eight when it was that
a great time, Half Life one all coming out relatively
in the same window. I was just like, what is
going on here with video games? All of a sudden
screw threw nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3: I played it for the first time like four years ago,
immediately entered my top fifteen Mike. That game still holds
up so good.
Speaker 2: I think. I think it's probably is still the best
Metal Gear Solid even though there's a mile bigh a
mile I think is pretty cool, But it doesn't have
the vibes and characters character like the the Hutspah of
Metal Gear Solid.
Speaker 1: One of like this is a time where when Kojima's
cinematic urges were like.
Speaker 2: Like not just impressive there, it's something else. It's like
I can't believe you're.
Speaker 3: Doing localized is what it was, because he had an
editor and he got localized to hell that he hated
that one got localized, and that's why all the ones
after that are so goddamn weird. He knew the limitations
that they're running up against on the PS one. They
worked with them as a borderline perfect video game because of.
Speaker 2: It so cool and like, you know, it was so
mechanically sound. But even then, like so many weird things happen,
like all the Psycho mann Is stuff. I love the
fact they're like, put your controller into the second player slot.
That's how you have to do this. Hell yeah, having
to look in the back of the CD case to
get the codec number Marrow. Just the weird little things
like that. The music so freaking cool. Yeah, the game
has so much riz it's insane, So very strong contender.
Final Fantasy obviously had a huge, huge time on the
PS one. You know, the mainline games seven, eight, nine,
and Tactics, these are all big, big, important games, you know.
You know, NIC's my favorite something about seven being again
a very quintessential PlayStation one game and just presentation wise
being just absolutely ridiculous for nineteen ninety seven. The things
that was doing you pre rendered graphics. Even to this
day when they have the moments where the chunky characters
are overlaid on top of the pre rendered full motion
video stuff. Yeah, I'm like, that's hell look cool, it's
awesome and there they were pre rendered artists were on
their game back then. It was such good stuff. It
was so the summons and also again, really cool characters,
really cool setting, like mid Gar has this weird sort
of dystopian city on a dying planet that's literally extracting
the essence of the planet from within itself. It's a
it's cool important stuff. Gosh. Resident Evil and Resident Evil
two are pretty cool too, they sure are that. Those also,
you know Teching three, yep, tech and three still one
of the best three D fighting games, Spiro Tony Hawks,
pro Skater, Grand Turismo, Radge Rastartar four. H gosh, it
is a incredible video game system. Uh and even mostly
even as much as I do love Symphony the Night,
tons and tons of tons I just talked about it.
I think I think it's metal gear solid. It's metal
gear solid. Yes, it's metal gear solid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, it's I think it's there's a reason
it is the consensus number one.
Speaker 2: It deserves it. All right, all right, we got up,
did it's work? Huh? We had a lot we We
started with best og Xbox game. We picked Koat Tour
that in public, Yeah yeah that. The best tree is
the soccer a tree with the Cherry Bostom tree. Best
secral boss is the Guardian Ape. The best x buttons
from the Xbox three sixty. The best superhero game is
Batman Arkham Asylum, and the best PS one game is
Metal Gear Solid. There you go. The trees are weird.
They can both be the redwood trees and the cherry
blossom trees like that. Those are both trees, and they're
very different looking. Yeah, very different trees, I find. You
know what's weird, like trees like relatively new actually big
such as the big part of this time on the others,
but it with no trees, and then and then beyond that. Yeah,
there was a long time where nothing could break down trees.
The trees just piled up for millions of years. And
that's where all our oil comes from. Is finally bacteria
came it could start eating these trees, and they started
breaking down and getting into the dirt. Fucking weird man. Yeah,
it's weird. Yeah, somebody's asked about like, is it things
that keep you up at night? It's just the period
of Tiler Planet where it was just piles of trees.
Speaker 1: Yes, just endless trees, and now we still have endless
trees with seven eight trillion trees or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot to think about, and I do.
All right. Cool, I'm glad we got to do the
hat segment. I love that. That's a good time.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the work there, Mike and everyone who suggested
hat stuff they want to do that, they could do
it on the discord, right, they can just go in there.
We have all the info there in the discord. If
they want to add new stuff into the hat.
Speaker 2: If there's a thread, there's a special thread for our
podcast producers where you can give suggestions for the hat.
All right, Sorry, I just saw my game Boy color
and then wanted to reach out and grab it. For
some days, it's fun when you just picked the one
best thing, because people usually don't get this agree too
much of our number one right. Yes, yes, it's gonna
be like, oh I can't believe you picked metal here.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's One of the reasons to
do the Mountain Rushmore is engagement, as people like argue
in get mad and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But there's reasons to do both, and yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: When we just picked the best one, usually people are like, yeah,
that's right, and it's easy to default to that. Okay,
all right, we are gonna take one more break, come back,
talk about what we've been playing. I think we've got
a few more super chats. We'll do all that right
after this and get then get out of here. We'll
be right back super chuts. All right, Mike, what have
you been playing?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Gosh, lots of Pacopia, lots of Pacopia deep in the
that fourth biome now, which is super fun. It kind
of it feels like things are kind of coming to
ahead bit good. I could start like asking you for tips,
like when I want to get back in there and
be like, oh, which, what do you do here?
Speaker 1: Because you're quite a bit ahead of me now I
got busy painting, So it's like, all right, as I'll
start asking you for some pointers and stuff like that.
But I'm glad you're still enjoying it so much. I
want to see it through to the end. As well,
the end of the campaign part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm off definitely, like I'll finish the
campaign then then I'll focus on maybe just one biome
I really want to build up, or I want to
go to the open area.
Speaker 1: I think we should get to the point wherever that happened,
and then let's do a collective four player map and
like maybe like do some build some funhouses in there
or something like that that I want to like make
something cool looking together.
Speaker 2: I think that could be cool. Yeah, I've already just
been seeing some fun things online, like somebody made an
underground bridge through one of the rivers and the kind
of you know, watery area, and it just looked really
freaking cool because there's like windows looking out into the water.
I think I got like the last major transformation, and
that's a really neat thing too. Can you suck up
the water yet? Actually no, I don't know that's whatever
that's about. I don't know, so who knows. But boy,
it is still just a time Disappears game. Like last night,
I went to bed even pretty early, and then I
was just playing that game. And but by the time
I stopped, I was like, what's my battery? Like oh,
it's almost empty. I almost just played the game to
battery death almost Yeah, yeah, yeah, gosh, it's super somebody Okay,
somebody's like an underwater bridge, I mean a tunnel, yes,
but it was kind of bridge. Is it was cool?
It's still still they got your ass. Yeah, yeah, I'll
take it. I'll take that one. I'm yeah. I continue
to enjoy, to enjoy up a coopia.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to force myself to play some Crimson
Desert though, so I have been playing it in the
last couple of days. I did play some Super Mario
Brothers to some more that I talked about that on
nten Dogs was continue to enjoy that. I'm almost to Wort,
not quite there yet. I need to see wart That's
where I'm at in life. But yeah, it's it's been
a lot of Crimson Desert Mike uh, trying to just
like poke through the early parts of that game and
and really get a grasp on it. And I talked
about it earlier, so we won't talk about it too
much more. But it is man moving that character around,
just trying to get him like turn around is weird,
Like he feels very heavy, like in like early Garault,
but worse, and they updated Garlt's controls eventually, in which
are three. So yeah, Garlt, well yeah, sorry, yeah, god
that's yeah me yeah, from the super Chuds, Yes, the
super Chuds, the super Chud Garault.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a second robot, like the irony of
you giving ships? Does someone over speaking? Like neither of
you get to throw stones? Okay, it's a tier list.
Speaker 1: Me and Jan are s tier at mispronouncing and Mike's
a let's be fair, right, all right, gosh, I yeah,
I will keep playing that, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just don't know. We'll see what I think of
it soon here, uh huh. I checked out a lot
of games made in Ireland this week on Giant Bomb.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anything to stick out, quite a few, quite a few,
because Access is the game that's just out now, and
I was playing that and this is this is like
a PS one hitted gym called Kula World.
Speaker 2: It's this kind of game where you're just a ball.
You're just kind of rolling around, you know, relatively flat geometries,
but like squares. If you look at it first, you
think it might be a monkey ball like, but it's not.
It's its own kind of pluszle platform thing. This game
has you know, very big ps one y two k
vibes that I like a lot. That's a x y
z uh. It's it's actually on sale renouncing because of
this Saint Patrick say sort of sales. So I think
it's worth looking into what's what's it called again, access
a x y z okay axis. So that was super
good philosophy. This was a right this demo UH that
I played. The full game UH does not have a
release date yet so is available though this is a
kind of getting over it like but as a pinball
game in that you know, you're using the flippers, you're
going up this pinball board, but you just keep going
up and you can fall back down. And then there's
like the biomes represented by different ages of philosophy. So
like the first one was looking very ancient Greek like,
and then it kind of started looking a bit more
medieval monk ish as I got further up there. So
the philosophy f A L O O s O P
H Y. So this is just it seems like a
really clever take on making a pinball game. I also
had like really pretty pixel art for the things like
the parallax and stuff.
Speaker 1: When I was hearing about it, I was assuming it
would be it would look like one of those three
D sort of you know, difficulty slop games.
Speaker 2: But no, this looks yeah, fantastic. Yes, it's a very
pretty game. You only use your l n R triggers
for everything, right, like the like you know, for like
the the flippers, even the men even like the menus
and stuff like that. Is there any tilt? No tilt?
No tilt? Okay, okay, because as there's times when I
was like trying to force tilt, right, I was just like, yeah,
but no, there's no tilt. Shark c h Ark is
a chess roguelike which was actually really cool. So like
you basically have your one piece and you can based
on what cards you have in your deck. You can
like move it like a night this turn, you can
move it like a queen, and you basically have to
eliminate enough of the other side's pieces to satisfy that condition.
You can move on. You get things like the relic likes, right,
so you get permanent effects, so you can buy more
car like pieces to put into your deck so you
can draw the queen more often. Things like that there's
a couple of things about it I didn't quite grasp
but was really enjoying it. I kind of like chess
a good bit and love the idea of a chess
roguelike real quick.
Speaker 1: Have you ever played five D Chess with multiverse time travel? No,
that is one I always meant to check out. And
it's like this weird game where it's like you can
you make a move in chess and then you can
like go back in time and try something else. But
it creates these branching paths and I'm not quite sure
how it works, but it's been overwhelmingly positive on Steam
for years. Uh So, if you like chess, maybe that's
worth checking out. Also, have you ever played really bad chess?
That's that's a good one.
Speaker 2: No, that one I've heard of though, Yes, yeah, so
that one. I don't know, might look into that, but yeah,
so that's that won. There's a demo available for that
one now, the full release has not happened yet. And then, uh,
Tult was the last thing we played during the st
pat say this is a weird one. It's uh it
looks like a very old PC game and you're a
horse and it's it's just what you ever played game.
We're like something bad's gonna happen at something. You just
keep waiting for this you to drop because there's just
a weird vibe. It's kind of one of those and
sort of in the dema I just kind of spent
today being a horse and then a loop at the end.
So I'm thinking it might be it might be a
bit of a of a call us that looping game
where you here in the office and you kind of
just keep playing it over and over again, so it
happens Stanley parable like Stanley Parable. Yeah, that's it. Maybe
it's a Stanley parable like. I'm not sure. It was
a weird game really in an interesting way. I liked
how it was weird. That's cool t o hell So, yes,
a good job, Ireland, good stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's like list still of like of those
games that were in that uh that collection, but yeah,
a bunch of those sounded very cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, then a side for it actually lots of
Slave the Spire to actually have now finished a run
with each character, which to me, I'm in my mind
as somebody's not going to do a lot of like
now play it with this challenge modifier. Blah blah blah.
I feel like I've beaten the game in a way
like I might still go back to and do some
more runs for fun.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if they add the other characters, right,
which they do right someday, right, I forgo.
Speaker 2: I don't know. If it's our characters are more cards.
There's okay, five characters already quite a bit characters, oh wow,
so they might be good there, So I don't know.
But even you know, doing that was a twenty you know,
I have twenty hours of a gameplay time, which wow, yeah, right,
the game. Yeah, it's just kind of playing that here
and there, doing a run here and there, and it
adds up and it was a really good time. So yeah,
say Aspire too. That's fun stuff. We're gonna try out
the co op, I believe tomorrow. Yeah, it's Slay the
Spire to one of those ones you stream on your channel.
Ever I streamed that, yeah when it was you know,
there's something like there's some people like Bailey actually like
we'll like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not whe I think
I'm going to like stream all the time, especially the
way I like to stream that. I have mostly fallen
into is I just play through single player games, and
every once in a while i'll do them all play
a game with my brothers maybe, but mostly I'm just
kind of doing full playthroughs of games. Yeah. Cool, all right,
let's clear let's super chats, all right, Dan, that's the
thing we do. Uh, let's see here now. Next one
is from Ariel Dolgado. Rozie and Nam is clearly game
of the year. When is Dino Crisis coming? Uh? Yeah,
what do you think about Dino crisis?
Speaker 1: They'll do it eventually. I think they'll do it eventually.
I know that they were definitely going to do it.
That's what someone told me. And then since then other
people have talked about it and it sounded pretty similar
to what I heard, but from you know, I know,
my source was different. So it's like, okay, uh, they're
not doing it anymore, at least as far as I'm aware.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think that they will get to a point where
they're just gonna have to because they're gonna run out
of resident evils to remake.
Speaker 2: I feel like, for now, it's probably pretty easier to
be like, well, we could do that, or we could
just remake these kind of three or four obvious resieval
games to remake. We know that's gonna do well. Yeah, yeah,
at some point that a Crisis one is going to
make a good amount of sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I mean they'll they'll definitely do Code Veronica.
They'll definitely do zero zero.
Speaker 2: Right, No, I bet they'll do five. I bet they think,
and they'll do one again one and they'll yeah, so
there's I think they'll do those four. I don't think
they're gonna remake six. Honestly, I don't know what you
do with six then, Like, once they do those four,
you don't you don't ever need to remake Residuval two
again in my lifetime. Honestly.
Speaker 1: Now I almost feel about that one, right, especially before
you do Dinal Crisis, Like you would definitely do Dinal
Crisis before that, and you know those teams will be
there doing that work and they'll still be very on
top of things.
Speaker 2: So yeah, eventually that'll happen. Then, Lostian says, as a
Florida native, fuck palm trees, the giving tree. Yeah, what's
the best fictional tree, and then we can talk about
decu tree with the giving tree, the giving trees. That's sad.
That tree just gave and gave and gave until I
think they turned into the Boy's coffin or something at
the end. Yeah, it's just it's a bit much relaxed tree.
Speaker 1: Real quick, I'm still on the Tult page on Steam
showing off some of the game. When when you were talking, Uh,
I want you to try to guess what Steam says, uh,
similar to games you've played?
Speaker 2: So it's games I've played. What two games? Do you think?
I don't give you some hints as we go. Do
you think Steam says Tult is similar to Outer wilds.
They're both really big games in their way. All is not?
So it's not similar to Outer Wild games that you
have played. Play, No, tell you what one of the
games is very I played it?
Speaker 3: Hang on, go bag? Is it?
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah? I don't know how to say or whatever
your horse I am in Wait, let me try to,
let me try to say it. I can only say
it like he did.
Speaker 3: Let's just move on.
Speaker 2: One of the games listed here is a game I
played very recently, Sectory Crimson Desert. Fuck. Uh, there's not Okay,
wait a second, I don't think that Sectory in tort
or whatever told melt Tolt. There's Always and Crimson Desert
have anything in common. The other one is Indiana Jones
in the Great Circle. What the f is the first person?
I have no fucking clue. I don't even know if
there's any horses in that game. It's got to be
like maybe based on the other people who've maybe played
this game, and I bet this team does not have
a lot of information about TULT. I think that's probably right, Yes, yeah, right.
I think it's s awid that there's a user to
find tag for this game that says adventure and they've
they've decided to just put that on whatever you've been playing. Yes,
I think I think that's probably right. All right, Uh,
we can get out of here, I think, Mike, Yeah, yeah,
we did it. Good stuff, Yeah, a good show. Yeah
all right then, So yeah, everybody, tomorrow, we're going to
have a upf. We're gonna play some co opolately aspire to.
Bailey's joining us for that, right, yeah she is.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be real mad because I still have
not figured out how to play try to do tonight.
My superstation stopped working, and we're gonna do it quick
look tomorrow, so I gotta.
Speaker 2: Fix that too. So that's exciting, you know, game this
mornings of course, and uh I'm going to be checking
out Crimson Desert. We'll see what I think Saturday. This
is the Run Millionaire going up on the premium side,
which it's gonna be fun, I believe for people to
check out. Uh yeah, So what happened to your superstation?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: I'm worried. I'm worried about right now.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I'm in the beta of the console version,
so it's just like I keep updating that stuff and
they're always like, make sure you clear all this other stuff.
And I'm sure I just missed a step. It's it's
my fault, it's user there. But I I just got
to get it there. When you get yours, I think
it's going to be like in a situation where it's
just ready to go.
Speaker 2: Hopefully. Yeah, but it's like I just got to get
it ready for tomorrow. I should be able to do.
I'm messaging Chuck now seriously. I hope you feel better.
I feel that was a good amount of time, good
amount of a little time. Let the joke lay for
a little set for a bit, let it sit for
a moment there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks again, for everybody who listens and watches tunes
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Sean for helping him for the last couple episodes with editing.
Thanks to Christian when he normally is producing the show.
Thanks to everybody. We really appreciate it. And uh yeah,
I hope everyone has a good weekend.
Speaker 2: Mike. Any interesting scene that was the Project Tail Mary?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, actually I liked that Marshal movie a lot. Yeah,
so I liked and I liked the Martian book a lot.
I didn't read Project Hill Mary. Yeah, so there's something
about these more I mean, I know in the movie
there's like the threat of the sun exploding, so maybe
there's some dourness to it, but in general, I'm like, God,
these are more pleasant sci fi, which I that's right.
Speaker 1: It's the one scene from Apollopar team where they have
all this stuff on the table and like, how do
we fix that.
Speaker 2: Turn into the story, And that's very much my jam.
I know it's not for everybody, but it's for me.
I can't wait. All right, everybody, Thanks for watching. We'll
catch you next time. Take care of yourself and have
a good one goodbye. Enjoy your gaming classic