Speaker 1: I'm on the subway the other day, and this is
Speaker 1: bewilderingly never happened to me before, which is shocking because
Speaker 1: we've lived in New York now for like twenty five
Speaker 1: years or something.
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty years.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the subway pulls into my stop. The door opens.
Speaker 1: I walked to the door, and I walk through a
Speaker 1: fart cloud so toxic that I actually almost like stumbled
Speaker 1: on the way out the door, like to the point
Speaker 1: when I turnround and be like, somebody has to see
Speaker 1: a gastro enterologist. I don't know who did that, but
Speaker 1: that is not okay. Now, I'm not even concerned for me.
Speaker 1: I'm concerned for you and what is happening in your system.
Speaker 2: I'm concerned for you now. I think you have pink
Speaker 2: eye in both eyes.
Speaker 1: I had my sunglasses on. I think I'm okay. I
Speaker 1: always keep my sunglass down on the subway. I don't
Speaker 1: want anyone to recognize me, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Paul and I'm America. And this is that aged.
Speaker 2: Well, yesterday's pop culture today.
Speaker 1: And we are in we're doing Crazy Technology month. Erica.
Speaker 1: Is it's been It's been bonkers up in here. For us,
Speaker 1: it's been it's.
Speaker 2: Been bleeps and bloops and X rays and stingrays and
Speaker 2: all the rays.
Speaker 1: Lots of San Francisco content.
Speaker 2: Our second film that takes place in San Francisco just
Speaker 2: this month.
Speaker 1: Well done, Yeah, well done San Francisco.
Speaker 2: And honestly our second the other film is also in California,
Speaker 2: So just California all around.
Speaker 1: All right. So before we get to the movie today, though,
Speaker 1: we do have a couple of podcast reviews that we're
Speaker 1: going to read. Shall I go first?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: All right, So this is from Apple Podcasts and it
Speaker 1: is from Mouse eighteen oh nine, and they write, cool,
Speaker 1: cool Cool. I found Paul and Erica through a date
Speaker 1: with Dateline a few years ago. Thank you again, Kimberly
Speaker 1: and Katie, and I've been an avid listener ever since.
Speaker 1: Their takes on the movies and shows I grew up
Speaker 1: with delight me endlessly. And I don't care when they
Speaker 1: throw out the ranking system for a movie or show
Speaker 1: they love. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: You know what I like about that is subtle shade.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know what, I don't care that they
Speaker 2: don't have integrity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care. That they will fully be like
Speaker 1: I like this movie a lot, and so I'm giving
Speaker 1: it a nine, even though there's blackface in it. I
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 2: Well, guys a birth of in Day. She is fine.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 1: Erica and Paul are a match made in heaven and
Speaker 1: the perfect pair to lead us through all the problematic
Speaker 1: decades of the eighties and nineties. I recommend this pod
Speaker 1: to every gen xer. I know you know what. It's
Speaker 1: important to remember, listeners that you are the best way
Speaker 1: to get this pod bigger. Recommending it to your friends.
Speaker 1: I'm saying you are all our pr agents.
Speaker 2: Ok, You're all our Samantha Jones's that's right.
Speaker 1: Mouse eighteen oh nine goes on. Please please please do
Speaker 1: us all a favor and cover some kind of wonderful Well, yes, Erica,
Speaker 1: I still can't believe you haven't covered it. Keep up
Speaker 1: the amazing work. No notes, Well we have.
Speaker 2: We got fucking great news for you. Mouse eighteen oh nine.
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Speaker 2: Check your feed.
Speaker 1: It's your feed. It happened. It happened before we got
Speaker 1: around to reading this. It happened in February. And then
Speaker 1: we have another review, Erica. This one's from podcast Addict
Speaker 1: not from Apple podcasts.
Speaker 2: Yes, Giovanni B. On podcast Addict writes, one of my
Speaker 2: regular searches is for podcasts discussing.
Speaker 1: Soap dish because you are living your life.
Speaker 2: Right, Giovanni B. Make no changes, none, make make no adjustments.
Speaker 2: Zero adjustments needed. Yeah, Giovanni continues, as kinks go. It's
Speaker 2: quite tame, but it's one I cultivate.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, excellent, and.
Speaker 2: The way that aged Well discussed it with a comforting ease,
Speaker 2: genuine insight and love for its subject, couple with the
Speaker 2: sense that we're on the edge of impending chaos make
Speaker 2: me download more episodes and they confirmed my impression, which
Speaker 2: in turn led me to subscribe.
Speaker 1: All right, can't.
Speaker 2: Wait to make a suggestion, Giovanni be you? Can you
Speaker 2: be our life coach?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that a thing you do?
Speaker 1: I will take an oath Giovanni's oath? These are great
Speaker 1: Mouse eighteen o nine. Giovanni B. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for these reviews. If you would like a down A
Speaker 1: twelve tote bag, please just let us know this is you.
Speaker 1: I will send it off for you. Erica, Erica, we
Speaker 1: had so many movies requested this month, but we had
Speaker 1: one movie that we kind of tried to incept in
Speaker 1: and we did. We did this.
Speaker 2: This did get the third top number of votes. I think,
Speaker 2: uh of fourth, yeah, third or fourth, and that's because
Speaker 2: Paul basically was like, guys, we're doing.
Speaker 1: This whether you like it or you might as well
Speaker 1: give over.
Speaker 2: We're jumping on this. This movie's bandwagon, and y'all are
Speaker 2: following us. Today's film is the I'm gonna say classic,
Speaker 2: It is not technically a classic because I don't think
Speaker 2: enough people watched it, and we're gonna fix that. Today
Speaker 2: Nay's film is the nineteen ninety two classic thriller Sneakers.
Speaker 1: Yes, classic comic thriller. I would almost say yes, Caper.
Speaker 2: Caper, Yes, yes, this movie walked so the Ocean's films
Speaker 2: could run. And I do realize the Ocean's films were
Speaker 2: actually remakes of the sixties Oceans films, but this is
Speaker 2: better than all those movies.
Speaker 1: Agreed, one hundred percent. Sneakers was requested by Kay Michael,
Speaker 1: Mary Beth, Kathleen, Heather, Ariel and Nicole, Valerie, Sarah, Lana
Speaker 1: ben Kh and Michelle and as I said before, also
Speaker 1: us and Us. It was written by Lawrence Lasker, Walter Parks,
Speaker 1: and phil Alden Robinson. It was directed by Robinson and
Speaker 1: stars Robert Redford, dan Ackroyd, Ben Kingsley, Mary McDonell, River Phoenix,
Speaker 1: Sidney Potier, and David Strathairn. Each and every one of
Speaker 1: them at least an Oscar nominee.
Speaker 2: Wow, I actually did not realize dan Ackroyd is an
Speaker 2: Oscar nominee.
Speaker 1: Miss Daisy Best Supporting Actor.
Speaker 2: He was nominated for driving Miss Daisy. You're absolutely right,
Speaker 2: I'd forgotten that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Allegedly, during the filming of Sneakers, the director was approached
Speaker 2: by men claiming to be representatives of the Office of
Speaker 2: Naval Intelligence, who told him that, for reasons of national security,
Speaker 2: the film could not include any references to a quote
Speaker 2: unquote handheld decoder device.
Speaker 1: What keep reading? I'm reading visiting.
Speaker 2: The first time you guys Robinson, The director was concerned,
Speaker 2: as such a device was a key plot point. However,
Speaker 2: once he consulted with his studio lawyer, he realized that
Speaker 2: the visit had been a prank instigated by a member
Speaker 2: of the cast, and he suspected Akrooyd and Redford excellent.
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent joined of Sidney Ploitier was like a big prankster.
Speaker 1: He comes on set and everyone's like, everyone just checked
Speaker 1: your seats. Plotier's on set, there's gonna be whipope cushions
Speaker 1: ha ha. He loves a fart joke more than anything.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Yes, I like there's something about him that gives
Speaker 2: off such a joy energy that I'm just like, I
Speaker 2: bet he's a he's a foot Well.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you read this on the Wikipedia page,
Speaker 1: Like everyone apparently adored making this movie, like this was
Speaker 1: a fantastic experience for everyone involved.
Speaker 2: What a good hang.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Robert Redford also has this energy of like he's gonna
Speaker 2: take care of his people. Everyone's gonna have a nice time.
Speaker 2: No one's gonna get ignored or left out. He's gonna
Speaker 2: make sure everyone's taken care of it. I just I
Speaker 2: don't know that that's true, but I get that vibe
Speaker 2: from him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also just love the fact that Robert Redford aged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fifty six when he made this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he like, look he looks great, to be clear,
Speaker 1: like no skips what dude, But he just has like
Speaker 1: the normal weathered face of a fifty six year old
Speaker 1: he just like he looks fifty six, and part of
Speaker 1: like there's a little bit of joking between him and
Speaker 1: Sidney Potier being like, we're getting too old for this,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, at least doesn't look like he's
Speaker 1: thirty five and being like, we're getting too old for this,
Speaker 1: because then you just feel bad about yourself. Erica Sneakers
Speaker 1: has an eighty percent critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes and
Speaker 1: an eighty percent audience score.
Speaker 2: Too low. Yeah, what on earth do we have to
Speaker 2: complain about?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Look, if you'd given me a cherry Picks that was
Speaker 2: slightly lower, I would understand. Because my one complaint about
Speaker 2: this movie is it is a sausage fest.
Speaker 1: Look, I watched plenty of movies that are sausage fests. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the privacy of my bedroom, all the movies are
Speaker 1: sausage fests.
Speaker 2: It was that kind of sausage fest. I'd still be
Speaker 2: into this movie.
Speaker 1: Don't peretty much. Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 2: All of them, all of them. It's I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't even understand where do you take twenty percent out?
Speaker 2: Even like with my one complaint that it's there's really
Speaker 2: only one female character in the entire movie.
Speaker 1: The only thing I can think of is and and
Speaker 1: this would be fair for critics and for audience to
Speaker 1: be fair. Like I watched it and I really liked it,
Speaker 1: and then I enjoyed it so much more on the
Speaker 1: second watch, like in the first watch because they use
Speaker 1: effective red hair.
Speaker 2: Oh that's true.
Speaker 1: Again, totally enjoyed it, but I was I left the
Speaker 1: first viewing kind of confused. I mean like I don't
Speaker 1: actually know exactly what happened in that movie. And then
Speaker 1: on the second viewing, when I was doing the recap,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is actually super tight, and
Speaker 1: like they actually cross the t's and dot the eyes
Speaker 1: and oh that's a red herring. Oh that's a red herring.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a red herring. That's really cool and fun
Speaker 1: and like so I can see maybe if you watch
Speaker 1: it once being like, oh, it's a good movie. Could
Speaker 1: have been a little clearer.
Speaker 2: That has to be it, because you cannot ding this
Speaker 2: on the it's funny. It's over two hours, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, is this gonna feel too long? And
Speaker 2: but it doesn't. It runs, it moves, it moves.
Speaker 1: So fast because it's also like two movies, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a first act, in the second act, and it's
Speaker 1: very clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, eighty percent is too low. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: say I would give this movie.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess critically I would take off
Speaker 1: a couple of percentages for the sausage fest aspect, but
Speaker 1: as an audience member one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: But in nineteen ninety two, I wouldn't like, I'd give
Speaker 2: you a fuck one hundred.
Speaker 1: And also the one, the one flower here with us
Speaker 1: in the sausage chest is Mary fucking MacDonell, who's a
Speaker 1: goddamn garden all by herself.
Speaker 2: Everything about her in this movie is perfection.
Speaker 1: Do you know how much chemistry a straight couple has
Speaker 1: to have in order for me to care about them
Speaker 1: so much? Paul so much? And it is only gotten
Speaker 1: worse as I've gotten older.
Speaker 2: I have seen you heckle at productions of Romeo and
Speaker 2: Juliet Heckel.
Speaker 1: Heckel who cares? Who cares? And these two, I mean
Speaker 1: the first second when he rudely interrupts her piano lesson
Speaker 1: without knocking, I'm like, I'm in, I'm all in. This
Speaker 1: is kidder Reeve levels of chemistry.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to I have to ask, because I
Speaker 2: am now upon watching it this time, so I hadn't
Speaker 2: seen it in a while. I have slightly confused as
Speaker 2: to what she does.
Speaker 1: No idea, absolutely no idea.
Speaker 2: What who is this? This woman of mystery?
Speaker 1: She understands quantum physics, but.
Speaker 2: Her job seems to be piano teacher in an abandoned mansion, and.
Speaker 1: She lives in San Francisco in the nineties in a duplex,
Speaker 1: gorgeous apartment.
Speaker 2: But as we've discussed in So I Married an Next Murderer,
Speaker 2: which canonically takes place in the same era, this is
Speaker 2: the same world as So I'm married.
Speaker 1: Robert Redford and Mike Myers drive the same car.
Speaker 2: They drive the same car, they go, they both go
Speaker 2: to that gross butcher shop. Like, yeah, it's the same world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's actually Now that I'm saying it out loud, I
Speaker 2: have one other complaint about this movie. That really could
Speaker 2: have flashed that character out, just a schooschmore.
Speaker 1: All right, Erica, So when was the first time you
Speaker 1: saw Sneakers?
Speaker 2: I saw this when I was in high school. I
Speaker 2: did not see this in the theater. Every single member
Speaker 2: of my family, all four quadrants of varying interest in movies.
Speaker 2: Was were like, this movie's excellent, and we recorded it
Speaker 2: off the TV because we had a VCR because we're rich.
Speaker 2: Hey yeah, and we wore out that tape watching this
Speaker 2: movie on like family movie nights. We loved this movie.
Speaker 2: So every single member of my family adores this movie.
Speaker 2: I watch it again for the first time since the
Speaker 2: nineties last night with my mom and my brother, and
Speaker 2: all three of us were like, this is excellent. No
Speaker 2: notes on this fucking movie. How about you, Paul, when
Speaker 2: did you first see Sneakers?
Speaker 1: Surprising No One. Two days ago, I saw Sneakers for
Speaker 1: the first time. This is one that I like, Like
Speaker 1: we've put on the Instagram post like we wanted to
Speaker 1: watch it. I know this is one of your all
Speaker 1: time favorite movies. Another one of my favorite podcasters in
Speaker 1: the world like lists this as her favorite, like her
Speaker 1: number one movie of all time, like she loves this movie.
Speaker 1: And then I watched it, and like I said, the
Speaker 1: first time, I was like, oh, that was really fun.
Speaker 1: I had a great time. In the second time, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, every every frame of this movie
Speaker 1: is delicious. And just in case anyone's wondering could not
Speaker 1: be more politically aligned with our current state.
Speaker 2: It like, boy, the way things just don't change in the.
Speaker 1: World, They only get worse. Please, Robert Redford told us
Speaker 1: what is this thirty years ago? What the issue was?
Speaker 2: I feel like Anonymous watched this movie and we're just like.
Speaker 1: Got it, got it, let's do it.
Speaker 2: The good folks are Anonymous?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Erica. The tagline for this movie was
Speaker 1: a burglar, a spy, a fugitive, a delinquent, a hacker,
Speaker 1: and a piano teacher. And these are the good guys.
Speaker 2: Terrible, that's awful, that's so bad, that's unworthy of this
Speaker 2: fucking movie. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Stop it?
Speaker 2: Sit down.
Speaker 1: Didn't write that, Lawrence Laska and Walter Parks, they didn't
Speaker 1: write it.
Speaker 2: They didn't write it. Some intern wrote it and he
Speaker 2: fucked up. Also, just look, look, I hate to exclude
Speaker 2: the woman more, but maybe it would have been tighter
Speaker 2: if they'd been a burglar, a spy, a fugitive, a delinquent,
Speaker 2: a hacker, and these are the good guys. Don't put
Speaker 2: the piano teacher in there. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: You can't follow the piano teacher with and these are
Speaker 1: the good guys because the piano teacher doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: with the Good Guys. Twist, Yes, the piano teacher sense
Speaker 1: is the punchline. If this is what you want to
Speaker 1: do a burglar, a spy, a fugitive, a delinquent, a hacker,
Speaker 1: dot dot dot, and a piano teacher, you're putting a
Speaker 1: hat in a hat.
Speaker 2: It's dumb.
Speaker 1: It's dumb.
Speaker 2: And also, we will discuss this as we go on.
Speaker 2: She is far more than a fucking piano teacher.
Speaker 1: She might be a superhero. We're not entirely certain.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm trying to do work for the movie, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, did they make her character and bigu us
Speaker 2: on purpose so that you never know if she's if
Speaker 2: she's with the Good Guys completely or if she's maybe Like,
Speaker 2: is that in and of itself another red herring where
Speaker 2: we don't know if we can completely trust her.
Speaker 1: I think they they drop that in the beginning as
Speaker 1: something they want you to think about, but they do
Speaker 1: not follow up on that at all.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a woman who probably teaches at Stanford, right,
Speaker 2: Like that that's what she really is. She's like, she
Speaker 2: teaches mathematics at Stanford, and then like for fun, on
Speaker 2: the weekends, yea an abandoned mansion Miss Havisham's House and
Speaker 2: teaches children piano.
Speaker 1: All right, Erica, shall I read the iTunes synopsis?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Robert Redford leads an all star cast in one of
Speaker 1: the most satisfying suspense films. Computer expert Martin Bishop Robert
Speaker 1: Redford leads a team of renegade hackers, including a former
Speaker 1: CIA employee Sidney Poitier, a gadgets wizard Dan Ackroyd, a
Speaker 1: young genius River Phoenix, and a blind sound man David
Speaker 1: straight there and who are routinely hired to test security systems.
Speaker 1: But Bishop, they're routinely hired because that's their job. Makes
Speaker 1: it sound like it's like a gang of thieves that
Speaker 1: like people keep finding going on. But Bishop's past comes
Speaker 1: back to haunt him when government agents blackmail the quote
Speaker 1: unquote sneakers into carrying out a covert operation tracking down
Speaker 1: an elusive black box. The real question of this episode, Erica,
Speaker 1: is how long are we going to be able to
Speaker 1: go without starting to make double Entandra in jokes about
Speaker 1: black boxes.
Speaker 2: Paul, I'm going to be classy today.
Speaker 1: I'm keeping we are not going to comment on the
Speaker 1: fact that we're going to say the phrase black box
Speaker 1: uh huh somewhere around four hundred times in the next
Speaker 1: hour and a half to two hours.
Speaker 2: I don't even understand what you could make fun of that.
Speaker 1: It's a mystery. Yeah, it remains a mystery.
Speaker 2: I understand why it's a mystery to you. I find
Speaker 2: it less of a mystery. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: told you I've owned a black box for a while.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. The synopsis goes on. Along with his former
Speaker 1: girlfriend Mary McDonald, Bishop's team retrieves the box and makes
Speaker 1: a stunning discovery. The device can break into any computer
Speaker 1: system in the world. With factions from all sides willing
Speaker 1: to kill for the powerful box, Bishop and his team
Speaker 1: and bark on their most dangerous assignment ever in this
Speaker 1: exhilarating high tech caper from Phil Alden Robinson.
Speaker 2: They don't make it sound fun. They're over explaining the movie.
Speaker 2: Stop it just be like, do you want to watch
Speaker 2: actual like cinematic icons, be fun for two hours? Here's
Speaker 2: your movie? You had me at Sidney Potier.
Speaker 1: I'm done. Sydney Poitier says the word Motherfucker's in this movie.
Speaker 1: Done so good it is so good.
Speaker 2: Honestly, they went almost the entire movie before someone said
Speaker 2: something racist to Sydney, and when it happened, I was like,
Speaker 2: son of a bitch, Yeah, why why? And then five
Speaker 2: and then five seconds later he says the word motherfucker,
Speaker 2: and I was like, Oh, that's why, That's why they
Speaker 2: had to get him that level of angry. This is
Speaker 2: this like character who's like a very he's a smooth operator.
Speaker 2: They had to get that guy that level of angry.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, okay, got it, got it, got
Speaker 2: it worth it, guy, Sometimes racism is worth it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when they get there, come up and directly afterwards,
Speaker 1: it can be really satisfying.
Speaker 2: You get Sidney Poitier saying motherfucker later, it's great. Do
Speaker 2: you have an actual synopsis for this film?
Speaker 1: This is a movie about crazy technology in which the
Speaker 1: most unbelievable thing is the idea that River Phoenix cannot
Speaker 1: get a date.
Speaker 2: A poor celibate River Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Poor ass faced River Phoenix just can't get any attention
Speaker 1: from the ladies.
Speaker 2: I have to say, he's fighting that face. He really is,
Speaker 2: and I think it works. I think he manages to
Speaker 2: make the character awkward enough that I do understand how
Speaker 2: he would walk up to someone in a bar and
Speaker 2: just in under five seconds weird them out so much
Speaker 2: that they'd walk away.
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Speaker 1: a fun credit sequence that foreshadows future fun with anagrams.
Speaker 2: By the way, the sexiest sax intro this is like
Speaker 2: a careless whisper level sax intro sweet love to your
Speaker 2: ear drums, it sure is.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed the anagrams and the title sequence. At
Speaker 1: turn up Cures, Elvis becomes Universal Pictures Block, the rhinos
Speaker 1: Spaniel becomes philled out. Phil Alden Robinson thought it was
Speaker 1: so fun. I thought I would try to make anagrams
Speaker 1: of our names.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, word evil is right in my name.
Speaker 1: It is it is, and I you know on what,
Speaker 1: I didn't go for it. I didn't go for it.
Speaker 1: So I had to use my middle name because my
Speaker 1: my just my first and last name is a lot
Speaker 1: of owls. And then then just like a couple random
Speaker 1: consonants that repeat, it's not great. So okay. With Paul
Speaker 1: John Kola and I got I an alcohol.
Speaker 2: Pooja, you are an alcohol pooja.
Speaker 1: I am, I am. And for Erica Yalba, I got
Speaker 1: kill a variable.
Speaker 2: Oh that's my that's my If I was a really
Speaker 2: bad rapper, which I would be yea to be clear,
Speaker 2: that would be that would be my hip hop name.
Speaker 1: Your name also has liberal in it, and I was
Speaker 1: trying to make something happen with liberal and I just couldn't.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I did not know my name had
Speaker 2: the word liberal in it. Actually, I got evil immediately
Speaker 2: because it's really it's right there.
Speaker 1: All right. So we open on a snowy night in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine. Two college students, Marty and Cosmo use
Speaker 1: their hacking skills to reroute money from sources like the
Speaker 1: Republican Party and Richard Nixon to causes they consider more
Speaker 1: worthy of the cash, like the Black Panthers and the
Speaker 1: National Association to legalize Mara Juanna real quick.
Speaker 2: I just want to say off the bat because we're
Speaker 2: in technology months and obviously Honey, I Shrunk the Kids
Speaker 2: is like sci fi more than technology. But this is
Speaker 2: the movie thus far that gets it.
Speaker 1: The most, right, I think.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, this all seems entirely plausible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is also technology in nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 1: so to call it rudimentary.
Speaker 2: I mean they're using an abbocus.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how you break into the National
Speaker 2: the Republican Party with an avocus, with these fuckings, they
Speaker 2: did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's an easy camaraderie between them. By the way,
Speaker 1: before I go on, can I just say you know
Speaker 1: immediately who the young guy is with the red hair,
Speaker 1: because I didn't realize that Robert Redford owned feathered strawberry
Speaker 1: blonde male hair to the level of like, if you
Speaker 1: just put that on anybody, I'm like, that's Robert Redford.
Speaker 2: Genuinely. You can put that on Viola Davis and need
Speaker 2: be like, no, no, it's Viola Davis and Robert Redford.
Speaker 2: My bad, you got me. Davis got me again. The
Speaker 2: actor too, His name is Gary Hirschberger, and I had
Speaker 2: to lie I did a deep dive on him after
Speaker 2: because I was like, who is this Robert Redford doppelganger
Speaker 2: that exists in the world? And he has literally been
Speaker 2: in every TV show ever? Yeah, for like one episode
Speaker 2: and like and then he had a bit of a
Speaker 2: run on Twin Peaks and a bit of a run
Speaker 2: on Six Feet Under. So he's he's had a decent career.
Speaker 1: What a great fucking career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like a journeyman. He's like a journeyman actor,
Speaker 2: but also fucking looks exactly.
Speaker 1: Like Robert Redford. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's incredible.
Speaker 1: All right. So there's an easy camaraderie between Marty and Cosmo.
Speaker 1: They had gleefully decide to get some dinner while they
Speaker 1: continue there. Robin hooding. They can't decide who's going to
Speaker 1: venture out into the cold to get a pizza, So
Speaker 1: Cosmo hides a carter in his palm and he tells
Speaker 1: Marty to choose, and Marty chooses, but he's wrong. Cosmo's
Speaker 1: hand is empty, so Marty heads out, and we see
Speaker 1: that Cosmo's other hand was empty as well. So he
Speaker 1: cheated his friend. He didn't feel like going into the cold,
Speaker 1: and he bamboozled him. Cosmo says to himself, one cannot
Speaker 1: trust anybody these days.
Speaker 2: Marty rushes through the snow to his Volkswagen minibus.
Speaker 1: To his mystery mobile or whatever the Scooby Doo thing
Speaker 1: was like.
Speaker 2: To his Hippiemobile, like the hat on a hat on
Speaker 2: a hat, But fuck it, let's do it right. Then
Speaker 2: he notices flashing police sirens and he like opens the
Speaker 2: window a crack, looks out and sees rot Row. There's
Speaker 2: some men in like trench coats and hats, very official looking,
Speaker 2: like storming into their dorm, and we cut back to Cosmo.
Speaker 2: Cosmo like wanders over to the window to see his friend.
Speaker 2: He looks out and he sees Marty running back like
Speaker 2: towards the back of the building and he's like, what
Speaker 2: are you doing? Why are you out of the van?
Speaker 2: Why aren't you getting my goddamn pizza that I tricked
Speaker 2: you into going out to get? And then before he
Speaker 2: can react to seeing his friend, the police burst in
Speaker 2: and arrest him. They seize him and he shouts mar
Speaker 2: Martie as Marty flees into the nights because there's no
Speaker 2: point in both of them getting caught.
Speaker 1: YEP, I have one correction for you. He doesn't scream Marty,
Speaker 1: he screams Mighty.
Speaker 2: Having seen the film ahead of time, Okay, I knew
Speaker 2: exactly what this younger person was doing, and the younger
Speaker 2: version of Ben Kingsley was doing. What happened was and
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna spoil some stuff right now. They clearly
Speaker 2: filmed the Ben Kingsley scenes first, and they showed the
Speaker 2: actor footage of what Ben Kingsley was doing, and they're like,
Speaker 2: can you sound like a South African pretending to do
Speaker 2: an American accents? To be clear, Ben Kingsley is not
Speaker 2: South African, but he sounds like a South African pretending
Speaker 2: to be an American. He went to the Bob Hoskins
Speaker 2: School of American Accents. Bob Hoskins is all Brooklyn. This
Speaker 2: guy plays for the Red Sox. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: This guy, this guy knows, this guy's a Southie.
Speaker 1: This guy was a depot, all right. We cut to
Speaker 1: San Francisco thirty some odd years later, and we find
Speaker 1: grown up Marty now played by genuinely the icon Robert Redford,
Speaker 1: in the midst of breaking into a bank with his squad.
Speaker 1: His squad consists of the following four people. Donald Creas
Speaker 1: played by the actual icon Sidney Poitier.
Speaker 2: Icons and icons in this goddamn movie.
Speaker 1: A former CIA operative. He's Marty's second in command. Darren
Speaker 1: Roscoe nicknamed Mother played by Dan Ackroyd. He's an engineer
Speaker 1: and a conspiracy theorist. Irwin Emery nicknamed Whistler played by
Speaker 1: David straight aarn a blind phone freak. That's phr e ak,
Speaker 1: which is that this is what I found in Wikipedia
Speaker 1: because I was trying to figure out he's actually based
Speaker 1: on a real person. Oh cool, And I guess this
Speaker 1: is something that people were able to do in the
Speaker 1: nineties over like landlines. They could like place like long
Speaker 1: distance calls for free by because they could hear the
Speaker 1: tones they had perfect pitch and stuff. So while David
Speaker 1: straight Thereon's character is kind of daredevil in this like
Speaker 1: I don't know how, he's the one part where I'm like,
Speaker 1: so he's actually a superhero. At what point He's like
Speaker 1: I can hear the batteries recharging and I'm like what, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I went with it.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, who cares.
Speaker 2: I had no idea. This was based on a real
Speaker 2: person that is so excellent.
Speaker 1: And finally, Cal Arbagast played by River Phoenix. He is
Speaker 1: a hacking prodigy. He's the kid of the team. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have as much do as the others. It seems
Speaker 1: like they just kind of took him in.
Speaker 2: Well, they caught him. The local authorities hired this crew
Speaker 2: to find this teen hacker in their midst and then
Speaker 2: they caught him and then hired him because he's so
Speaker 2: good at what he does.
Speaker 1: Hey listeners, future Paul. Here thus begins the time in
Speaker 1: this episode where I will refer to River Phoenix's character
Speaker 1: as Cal and not Carl. Let's see how long Erica
Speaker 1: allows for this to go on before or she finally
Speaker 1: corrects me. So the team is in constant contact via radio.
Speaker 1: Each member gets to show off their skills as they
Speaker 1: infiltrate the bank, never missing a chance to ras each
Speaker 1: other like family does. These These these are close. These
Speaker 1: guys are close. They have each other's backs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a proper crew. Also, there's a great moment
Speaker 2: in this scene when they break So it's River Phoenix,
Speaker 2: Robert Redford and Sydney Potier and they're breaking it. They're
Speaker 2: physically breaking into the bank. They have to go behind
Speaker 2: the counter to get to the to the vaults, and
Speaker 2: River Phoenix just like like with the elegance and grace
Speaker 2: of a Barishnakoff, just like jumps over the counter, leaps
Speaker 2: over it like a prima ballerina. Robert Redford tries the
Speaker 2: same and just flips like like miss like chunks it misses.
Speaker 2: It just falls on the other side with a big,
Speaker 2: loud sid And then Sidney Potier sees that and goes
Speaker 2: okay and walks around it. Excellent. Now now you know
Speaker 2: everything you need to know about all three of these guys.
Speaker 2: They break through the bank's defenses. They're on the computer.
Speaker 2: Chris asks Marty how much money he wants transferred, and
Speaker 2: then immediately we cut to the next day at the bank.
Speaker 2: Marty is now in a three piece suit. He's pretending
Speaker 2: to be a customer and he's taking one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars out. When she's like, can I ask sir, why
Speaker 2: are you closing your account? He says, you know, I
Speaker 2: just had this weird feeling that my money wasn't safe
Speaker 2: here anymore. Then he starts to walk what we think
Speaker 2: is the audience, and he's walking out of the bank,
Speaker 2: he sees a security guard. The security guard kind of
Speaker 2: looks at him because he's Robert Redford. You cannot not
Speaker 2: look at him. I don't care who you are, what
Speaker 2: your orientation is, you will look at Robert Redford.
Speaker 1: The man is a golden god, that's right.
Speaker 2: So he's looking him up and down in a three
Speaker 2: piece suit, noless. Robert Redford gives him a sly look,
Speaker 2: and then instead of walking out of the bank, he
Speaker 2: proceeds to walk upstairs, and then we cut to him
Speaker 2: presenting the one hundred thousand dollars to the bank's board,
Speaker 2: telling them all of the holes that they have in
Speaker 2: their security, and they gave him a check for the
Speaker 2: job well, and then he heads back to the office.
Speaker 1: So we cut to the sneakers hanging out in their
Speaker 1: enormous loft office and Cal rushes in to announce they
Speaker 1: have a new client, and they look like they've got
Speaker 1: deep pockets. Very exciting. Marty goes. He meets the two men,
Speaker 1: and the two men are named Dick Gordon played by
Speaker 1: Timothy Bussfield and Buddy Wallace played by Eddie Jones. Short
Speaker 1: sidebar on Timothy Busfield's hair. I have never seen hair
Speaker 1: so high and so flowing. At the same time, I
Speaker 1: have seen Tsunami's crest lower than this. Haircrests off Timothy
Speaker 1: Busfield's head.
Speaker 2: This movie has more redheads than we know what to
Speaker 2: do with.
Speaker 1: It's true. It's true.
Speaker 2: Also, I've never seen Timothy Bussfield play a villain before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pretty good at it.
Speaker 2: He's actually really because if you had told me ahead
Speaker 2: of time that Timothy Busfield was going to be a villain,
Speaker 2: like not just a villain, like a heavy yeah, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, are you fucking kidding me? And he manages
Speaker 2: to pull.
Speaker 1: It off all right. So Marty takes Dick and Buddy
Speaker 1: into a private, glass enclosed meeting room that's just in
Speaker 1: the center of their office. The two start quizzing him
Speaker 1: on why he's chosen to work with the people on
Speaker 1: his team. Crease was fired from the CIA, mother did
Speaker 1: time for breaking and entering, etcetera, etcetera. They all have
Speaker 1: like these these checkered records. Marty gets a bad vibe
Speaker 1: off of them, and he's like, who are you guys?
Speaker 1: Dick tells him to relax, and Buddy holds up his
Speaker 1: file and he's like, look, this one is blank. Martin
Speaker 1: Bishop has no past at all. Marty figures it out.
Speaker 1: He's like, look, I don't work for the government. And
Speaker 1: Dick's like, all right, I get it. But we're the NSA.
Speaker 1: We're just code breakers. We're the good guys. We're not
Speaker 1: the CIA, we're not the FBI. We're just the NSA.
Speaker 1: Marty's like, just leave, and Dick gives Marty a piece
Speaker 1: of paper with their number and address on it should
Speaker 1: he change his mind, and then he calls him mister Bryce.
Speaker 1: They leave. Marty looks shook. He opens the paper and
Speaker 1: it's a wanted poster of himself from his college years,
Speaker 1: with his original name of Martin Bryce.
Speaker 2: The idea that the NSSA is the like the good guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, really that's the way.
Speaker 2: That does not age super well.
Speaker 1: It doesn't.
Speaker 2: There's a line later in the movie where like they're like,
Speaker 2: the NSSA does not do domestic surveillance. It's simply not
Speaker 2: what we do. Like cut to ten years later, the
Speaker 2: NSA is like, all we do is domestic Marty, freaked
Speaker 2: out because they know who he is, actually, takes the
Speaker 2: bait and heads to the NSA office, where he meets
Speaker 2: with Dick again and Dick tells him about doctor Gunter Yannick.
Speaker 1: I think they say Janic Janic in the film.
Speaker 2: Doctor Gunter Janic a mathematician who specializes in large number theory,
Speaker 2: prime numbers, and factoring. He numbers, He numbers and numbers,
Speaker 2: that's what he does. Janic recently received an enormous grant
Speaker 2: from an unknown source somewhat suspicious. The NSA traced it
Speaker 2: and it turns out that unknown source is from Russia.
Speaker 2: That's a great moment here where Marty's like, guys, you're
Speaker 2: chasing this is a dumb lead. We won, they lost.
Speaker 2: This is not a this Russia is not even a
Speaker 2: threat anymore. And I'm like, oh my god, this movie.
Speaker 1: I love how much he hates the government and is
Speaker 1: so open, like he walks in and he goes, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could have worked for the NSA. But then they
Speaker 1: found out that my parents were married, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that is excellent.
Speaker 2: That is such a good joke. The two NSA agents
Speaker 2: are like, hey, look we spill. We still spy on them.
Speaker 2: They still spy on us, So we've got to follow
Speaker 2: up on this. Right. They've discovered that Janek is working
Speaker 2: on a little black box. So Janek has a little
Speaker 2: black box, yeah, that he plays with.
Speaker 1: He's working. He's working on the box.
Speaker 2: You know what. You have to work on those boxes.
Speaker 1: He works vigorously and intentively on the box.
Speaker 2: You have to otherwise it doesn't just open. You have
Speaker 2: to work on it a little bit.
Speaker 1: It doesn't just it doesn't just bloom in the sun
Speaker 1: like a flower.
Speaker 2: No, you have to tap on it sometimes, Yeah, to
Speaker 2: really get I'm showing Paul the tapping.
Speaker 1: Tapping. It's a very it's a more vigorous tapping than
Speaker 1: I would have presumed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you really got to tap it to get
Speaker 2: it to open up. Okay, he's working on a little
Speaker 2: black box code names astronomy. They need to know what's
Speaker 2: this all about? What's in the box?
Speaker 1: What's it?
Speaker 2: Marty wonders why they're coming to him, and like, why
Speaker 2: don't you do it? You're the fucking government. Just arrest
Speaker 2: the guy and get the bucks. And they're like, whoa,
Speaker 2: because what we're doing is slightly illegal, but it's not
Speaker 2: strictly speaking legal. We won't be legal until the current
Speaker 2: president's son is president, so until ten years from now
Speaker 2: when that happens, we're gonna need you to do it first. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they offer him one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: which is the biggest payday by far the Sneakers have
Speaker 2: ever gotten, and they offer him a clean record. We
Speaker 2: will wipe your slate clean. You will never no one
Speaker 2: will ever know about Martin Bryce's activities ever. Again, you
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to end up like your friend Cosmo. And
Speaker 2: then they mentioned Cosmo and we see like a pained,
Speaker 2: hurt look on Marty's face.
Speaker 1: We cut back to Sneakers headquarters. Marty is pitching the
Speaker 1: team on this job and Crease is quite angry that
Speaker 1: he had not told them about his past. Right. Marty's like, look,
Speaker 1: we've all got secrets, and he says, no one knows
Speaker 1: why you had to leave the CIA, and then Crease
Speaker 1: just like walks away and doesn't say anything. Marty attempts
Speaker 1: to manipulate them with if you guys don't want to
Speaker 1: do this to keep me out of jail, I understand,
Speaker 1: and none of them fall for it. They're all like,
Speaker 1: we don't care if you go to jail. We just
Speaker 1: want the money, so we'll do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're in this for the money.
Speaker 1: So Marty announces that they'll start with light surveillance. He's
Speaker 1: going ahead to a lecture that Janek is giving the
Speaker 1: next day, and Chris asks, Hey, do you want me
Speaker 1: or Whistler? Whistler is the blind phone freak David straight
Speaker 1: theirn do you want one of us to go with you?
Speaker 1: And Marty's like, oh, you know, I think I was
Speaker 1: thinking about it, and I just, you know, just kicking
Speaker 1: some names around, and I thought maybe I would ask
Speaker 1: someone else, I know, maybe Liz. And all four of
Speaker 1: the other sneakers stop and they turn and look at Marty.
Speaker 2: All right, So we cut to Liz Ogilvie, played by
Speaker 2: the luminous Mary McDonald.
Speaker 1: Can I interrupt you immediately to do five minutes on
Speaker 1: Mary McDonald's outfit. You may have a tight five on
Speaker 1: this outfit. This outfit is it is like a suede
Speaker 1: or velvet or Moleskin's business suit dress in like this
Speaker 1: deep emerald green. She's got a choker on that's styled
Speaker 1: to look like a thick belt, which exactly matches the
Speaker 1: belt on her suit. Her eyeshadow is the same green.
Speaker 1: She looks incredible, She looks she looks like she's she's
Speaker 1: dressing up for like the model uns Halloween party and
Speaker 1: she's going as Ireland. Like it's so much green, and
Speaker 1: her hair is this deep dark red that's like it's
Speaker 1: this aggressive, like almost more eighties chopped.
Speaker 2: Like like, yes, she's got the carry fisher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is witchcraft. This should not look good, and
Speaker 1: it looks so good.
Speaker 2: She is so good at being sexy while also exuding
Speaker 2: like intelligence, charisma, elegance. Class, yes, class, she's truly magnificent.
Speaker 2: Role agreed, all right, So she's giving a piano lesson
Speaker 2: to a like the most adorable ten year old girl
Speaker 2: Marty walks in. She's again they're in a fucking mansion,
Speaker 2: a giant is it a music conservatory? Like and also
Speaker 2: like the kids were taken there on a bus like
Speaker 2: it's like it's an after school program.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is this woman's job?
Speaker 2: Marty walks in. Liz dismisses her student very kindly, and
Speaker 2: Marty says hi, and Liz says, we're not getting back together.
Speaker 2: A delightful sparring match ensues, where Liz insists that she's
Speaker 2: very happy tending to actual children rather than man children. Excellent.
Speaker 1: So this tells us that she once was involved with
Speaker 1: the sneakers, like she was a sneaker herself and like
Speaker 1: was like, I'm doone with this. I don't want to
Speaker 1: do this anymore.
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, I'd rather teach kids piano and castle Dracua.
Speaker 2: Marty finally admits to her that the governments found him yep,
Speaker 2: and she gets serious. She stops flirting. She turns around
Speaker 2: and she says, you and I are not getting back together,
Speaker 2: and he says, hey, don't flatter yourself, as she smiles
Speaker 2: and says pick me up at three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because remember he wants her to go to this
Speaker 1: lecture with him, right.
Speaker 2: She leaves and Marty clenches his fist with a self
Speaker 2: satisfied yes.
Speaker 1: I'm so invested already. I make it my business to
Speaker 1: not care about straight couples. I make it my life
Speaker 1: goal to not give a shit, and I care.
Speaker 2: You throw a rotten eggs at weddings. I've seen it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do, because I want them to know
Speaker 1: what I think. All right, So we cut to Janek's lecture.
Speaker 1: Janek is played by Donald Logue in the most un
Speaker 1: Donald Logue like part you could possibly imagine.
Speaker 2: This got a laugh out of me.
Speaker 1: Yes, last night.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen this movie in a long time, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I have such other associations with Donald last now,
Speaker 2: and I just this made me laugh out loud. Also,
Speaker 2: I just gotta keep pointing out ginger watch.
Speaker 1: Ginger.
Speaker 2: Got another fucking ginger in this movie.
Speaker 1: And he's got longer hair than Mary McDonald.
Speaker 2: This is Ginger number four already in this film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this film is a ginger snap. It's
Speaker 1: a gingerbread cookie wife.
Speaker 2: I forgot about Gary Hirschberger at the beginning.
Speaker 1: Oh there you go, Gingers.
Speaker 2: We've got a ginger quintet.
Speaker 1: All right. So Liz is trying to pay attention and
Speaker 1: Marty is like, hey, so are you seeing anybody? She says,
Speaker 1: this is about unbreakable codes and then she says, are
Speaker 1: you seeing anyone? And he shushes her. I mean, just
Speaker 1: oh god, this is a firework factory. At the reception
Speaker 1: after the lecture, they run into Gregor Ivanovitch, played by
Speaker 1: Broadway legend George Hern.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: This is not the original Sweeney Todd, but this is
Speaker 1: the Sweeney Todd that many people know because he is
Speaker 1: the one who did the film performance with Angela Lansberry.
Speaker 1: That is George Hern.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: He also was briefly married to Dixie Carter. I love
Speaker 1: a straight man who is known for his musical theater,
Speaker 1: who has five wives. That's George Turn.
Speaker 2: I had no idea. Now I'm going to do a
Speaker 2: deep dive on George Hern. When we're down with this.
Speaker 1: George Hern comma, knee deep in poon. That is George Turns.
Speaker 1: George Turn's life.
Speaker 2: Just cleaning up backstage snatch like it's.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Gregor is a Russian spy who has now been designated
Speaker 1: a cultural attache. Because remember, everything's good. Now they're allies.
Speaker 2: We're buds again.
Speaker 1: Yep. He's thrilled to see that Liz and Marty are
Speaker 1: back together. Liz says, we're not back together. He invites
Speaker 1: them to see the Kiev String Quartet at the Russian
Speaker 1: Embassy a few nights later, and then he leaves and
Speaker 1: Liz insists that she doesn't trust him. So I left
Speaker 1: this in here just because this is I think one
Speaker 1: of the first like big red Herrings. Yeah, they have
Speaker 1: a person that we like, be like that person is
Speaker 1: not trustworthy, you know. As the person doing the recap,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's important because they make they
Speaker 1: make a show of it.
Speaker 2: He's a Russian spy, for God's sake. Yeah, I totally agree,
Speaker 2: great Red hearing.
Speaker 1: So she and Marty spot doctor Elena Riskov played by
Speaker 1: Lee Garlington, who is genuinely we already talked about Gary Heirschberger.
Speaker 1: Lee Garlington is the Gary Herschberger of the feminine side
Speaker 1: of the of the business. She has been in everything
Speaker 1: on one.
Speaker 2: Episode of every single television show in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about her. But she's in some
Speaker 1: kind of wonderful She's the gym teacher in some kind
Speaker 1: of wonderful she she's on The Golden Girls, she plays
Speaker 1: Vince's mother on Will and Grace. This woman has been
Speaker 1: in everything. A journey woman actress is she also a redhead.
Speaker 2: I can't remember if she a blonde in this she's
Speaker 2: a redhead. Sometimes she's a blonde. I think she's a
Speaker 2: dirty blonde.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to put her think she's a
Speaker 1: dirty blonde in the red.
Speaker 2: Head in the redhead choir I'm building in this film. Okay,
Speaker 2: I just need to talk about this scene because again,
Speaker 2: I just mean, I just want to bring this up.
Speaker 2: Liz again is technically a piano teacher.
Speaker 1: According to the poster, she's a piano teacher but also.
Speaker 2: Knows quantum physics. Also understood Yannick's lecture ostensibly like the
Speaker 2: real reason Marty brought her to this lecture is to
Speaker 2: have an excuse to hang out with her and to
Speaker 2: get her back in his life. But ostensibly the reason
Speaker 2: he brought her there is because she is an expert
Speaker 2: in mathematics.
Speaker 1: Women in stem Who is she?
Speaker 3: What is she doing?
Speaker 2: What is her?
Speaker 3: Whole thing?
Speaker 2: That? I'm going to ding the movie hard on this
Speaker 2: because it's the one thing I have, honestly to think about.
Speaker 2: Liz is such a like a wisp of a character.
Speaker 2: A lot of them are, to be fair, we don't
Speaker 2: know anything about any of these. But I have no
Speaker 2: idea what mother who mother is, But because Liz is
Speaker 2: such a main character, I need her, I need her
Speaker 2: to have more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was expecting this movie to be a real
Speaker 1: ensemble piece and I and I will say it's it's not.
Speaker 1: It's a Robert Redford movie, which is great. I'm not complaining.
Speaker 1: I was just going in expecting like a lot of
Speaker 1: different character studies. And you really only get to know
Speaker 1: Marty yeah as a real person because they don't need
Speaker 1: to because the actors are so good.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Like once you
Speaker 2: put like David Strathairon in the role, I'm like, well, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm invested because I love this guy. Like yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: So we cut to the sneakers in full surveillance mode.
Speaker 2: On Janek. Carl describes the office as Janet enters, so
Speaker 2: he's describing it to Whistler, so that Whistler is sort
Speaker 2: of red in on the situation as it's happening, but
Speaker 2: also helping the audience. Right. He sees soldering guns, spools
Speaker 2: of wire, a magnifying lamp, a computer, a telephone, an
Speaker 2: answering machine, a mug of pencils, but no little black
Speaker 2: box anywhere. Sometimes the box is hard to find.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the box a little hitten.
Speaker 2: Honestly, only one part of the box is hidden.
Speaker 1: It's pretty out there, pretty out there.
Speaker 2: It's only the play button that's his got to dig
Speaker 2: for it, a little play button.
Speaker 1: Excellent.
Speaker 2: So Janek enters his office. He readies himself to log
Speaker 2: onto his computer, and they're like, yes, this is it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to see his password, learn his password,
Speaker 2: then we can break into his office, et cetera. The
Speaker 2: whole plan is coming into place. But then unfortunately, Elena
Speaker 2: comes in, the woman we saw whispering in his ear earlier,
Speaker 2: the other great character actress in the film, and the
Speaker 2: two of them in immediately enter into a passionate embrace.
Speaker 2: This is an excellent moment because what happens is she enters.
Speaker 2: We see her entering as an audience where we are
Speaker 2: with the sneakers in their point of view as they're spying.
Speaker 2: We see her enter. Then we then the audience cuts
Speaker 2: to just looking at Sydney Poitier watching the room.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, and we hear ah.
Speaker 2: Like like we get it that, Like these two are
Speaker 2: getting it on, and we now we don't get to
Speaker 2: see that. We get to see it through Sydney Poitier's
Speaker 2: reaction to seeing that, which makes the whole thing ten
Speaker 2: times funnier.
Speaker 1: It's also great because Cal's like, can I can I
Speaker 1: look and they're like no, And then then I think
Speaker 1: Marty's like, let me, let me get a look.
Speaker 2: Look, let me look at it. I want to see it.
Speaker 1: I want to see it will turn out by the way,
Speaker 1: they are not having sex. They're just kissing, which means
Speaker 1: Janek is the greatest kisser.
Speaker 2: I have a theory, okay, because this movie is keeping
Speaker 2: it classy, right, so it's not going to show us this,
Speaker 2: but I think it implies that he went under her
Speaker 2: skirt and gave her a little woodsie do, tried to
Speaker 2: hit play. Yeah, he was hitting play. He was he
Speaker 2: was playing you know what they were doing. He was
Speaker 2: playing Marionette and and uh.
Speaker 1: That's what you're saying is he was playing in the
Speaker 1: shadow box.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. He had his
Speaker 2: hand all the way up the scooch. That's I think
Speaker 2: that's what was happening. That's that's my in my mind,
Speaker 2: that's what happened, because you're right, Otherwise it doesn't make
Speaker 2: sense because it's just just kissing, and the sound effect
Speaker 2: is like she is seconds away from orgasming.
Speaker 1: Agreed, agreed, So okay, these two.
Speaker 2: Are are immediately in this passionate embrace. Janet pushes Elena away,
Speaker 2: he tries to get He's like, no, no, no, I
Speaker 2: must do my work. I must, I must, I must
Speaker 2: focus on the on the other black box in the room.
Speaker 2: He sits at his computer and they're like, okay, good again,
Speaker 2: we're going to get his password. But unfortunately Elena gets
Speaker 2: in the way. She's she covers their field of vision
Speaker 2: and she is horned. But she is not going to
Speaker 2: take no for an answer. She's not going down without
Speaker 2: a fight. She leans in and she whispers, her voice
Speaker 2: quivering with sexual heat. By the way, she has a
Speaker 2: Russian accent.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the audience knows this, but I
Speaker 2: studied for many years in Saint Petersburg.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have a I mean, perfect.
Speaker 2: Lawless yeah, Russian accent. I think the government has tried
Speaker 2: to hire me, yeah, as a spy. But I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 1: I've asked you. I've asked you to stop doing it,
Speaker 1: because every time you do it I want to shout
Speaker 1: ruskie at you. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you just.
Speaker 2: You just throw vodka in my face every time. Verry
Speaker 2: so Elena leans down and she whispers with sexual heat
Speaker 2: and desire burning through her cossack body. I leave message
Speaker 2: here on service.
Speaker 1: But you do not call. It's more sexual. I leave
Speaker 1: message here on service but you do not call.
Speaker 2: It's not sorry. I needed to warm up into it.
Speaker 2: Let me do it, Let me do it perfect now again.
Speaker 2: I leave message care on service, but you do not call.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are like, is Vladimir Putin?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did you joined this?
Speaker 3: Call? No?
Speaker 1: No, it's me, you guys, It's Erica. Surprised me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she also has to say. She rips open her shirt,
Speaker 1: revealing just an A plus rack. Good for you, Lee
Speaker 1: Arlington A plus rack? Yeah, good call ball. I mean wow,
Speaker 1: even I was like hello, hello. I mean she has
Speaker 1: a bra on, to be clear, but like she looks great.
Speaker 2: It's an amazing black lacy bra on. She looks in
Speaker 2: I just want to put my head in there and
Speaker 2: just go like, it's that good. It's that good.
Speaker 1: She rips open her shirt and she says, I give
Speaker 1: you something to work, baby. She I think they are
Speaker 1: intentionally doing this because they want the audience to think
Speaker 1: that she is a spy. This is another red herring.
Speaker 2: Yeah she's another Russian.
Speaker 1: YEA, well she's check. You find out she's check, all right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: So she is, Oh shit, I should have been doing
Speaker 2: my check.
Speaker 1: Accident was the problem, that's what you got. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: like the dialogue here is so over the top and silly.
Speaker 1: Yeah that when I first watched it, I was like,
Speaker 1: the rest of this movie is written so well, And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, but they want it to sound
Speaker 1: over the top and ridiculous. They want it to sound
Speaker 1: like a Czech spy trying to seduce this guy who's nerd,
Speaker 1: this nerd and like pretending that he's hitting the play
Speaker 1: bynd when he's actually like on her back thigh, And
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, that's it, that's it, Come on baby.
Speaker 2: So again these two start getting it on, and she
Speaker 2: blocks the view of the computer so they could they
Speaker 2: are never yet able to get a good view.
Speaker 1: We cut back to the Sneakers headquarters and they are
Speaker 1: reviewing the video they took in an attempt to get
Speaker 1: Jenek's password. They just keep hearing I leave message here
Speaker 1: on service, but you do not call. Again and again,
Speaker 1: Crete announces that Elena is a Czech astrophysicist. They immediately
Speaker 1: assume between a connection between her and Sea Tech Astronomy
Speaker 1: because remember Sea Tech Astronomy was paid for by the Russians.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, this woman is here work in Janek.
Speaker 1: They're unable to get the password even after repeated viewings,
Speaker 1: but luckily Whistler is there to listen to the video.
Speaker 1: He points out that Elena said she left message here
Speaker 1: on service, but you do not call. So what's the
Speaker 1: answering machine doing in Jane's office?
Speaker 2: Done? Dun doune.
Speaker 1: Honestly, the sneakers would get nothing done if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for Whistler. He does the lion's share of the work.
Speaker 1: He really does.
Speaker 2: He is easily the best one.
Speaker 1: So we cut to the sneakers back in infiltration mode.
Speaker 1: They are trying to get into Janic's office to get
Speaker 1: that answering machine to hopefully find Jane's little black box.
Speaker 1: Marty makes his way to Janick's office with relative ease.
Speaker 1: He finds the black box secreted inside the answering machine. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: at that moment, Elena walks in looking for a little
Speaker 1: more afternoon delight, and she is shocked to find Marty there.
Speaker 1: So now we get like a great comic sequence. I
Speaker 1: didn't like transcribe all of it, but essentially, like the
Speaker 1: team is both helping and hindering Marty as he tries
Speaker 1: to talk his way out of this situation with Elena. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they land on that he's a PI hired by Janik's wife.
Speaker 1: That's a fiction. Janick is not married.
Speaker 2: Jannick is not married. She's like, he doesn't have a wife,
Speaker 2: and he's like, yes, yes, he does, yep.
Speaker 1: And then they convince her to stay with Janek and
Speaker 1: not tell him what she knows because the fictitious wife
Speaker 1: is a real shrew.
Speaker 2: He's like giving her advice and he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: you should, you should take care of your man and
Speaker 2: love him, and you know, because his home life is terrible.
Speaker 2: And then then I can't remember which one.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's Whistler.
Speaker 2: It's Whistler goes and give him head whenever he wants,
Speaker 2: and he's just saying the lines they're feeding him, and
Speaker 2: he's like, and give him help, help whenever whenever he wants.
Speaker 1: Have you heard this new phrase for giving head throwing
Speaker 1: neck no ouch, No, it sounds both more descriptive and grosser.
Speaker 2: Like honestly, my next started hurting as soon as you
Speaker 2: said that.
Speaker 1: It's like out nothing, but throwing makes it set like
Speaker 1: like maybe like bobbing neck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bobbing neck. That sounds right, that sounds right. At least,
Speaker 2: throwing just sounds like it's gonna hurt.
Speaker 1: It sounds to hurt you.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't hurt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it shouldn't hurt either of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you get a little sore job, but other
Speaker 2: than that, hurt either of you.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: Smash cut to the Sneakers having a celebratory office party
Speaker 2: because they got the black Box. It's a fun little
Speaker 2: montage set to Chain of Fools where Liz dances with
Speaker 2: all of the men and like all of them are
Speaker 2: terrible dancers, except for mother, is played by one of
Speaker 2: the Blues Brothers, So yeah, of course he can fucking dance.
Speaker 1: Sydney Poitier is not a terrible dancer. He's just a
Speaker 1: cool dancer. He doesn't do much. He stands there. It
Speaker 1: is Sidney Poitier the way Carl future Paul here again.
Speaker 1: So the final col count is three, but I edited
Speaker 1: out like four instances in me calling Carl cal So.
Speaker 1: Erica was really letting me run with this one. I
Speaker 1: don't know what she was thinking. Anyway, from here on out,
Speaker 1: everyone will be referred to by their proper character name.
Speaker 1: The way Carl River Phoenix throws himself into the bad dancing.
Speaker 2: Is he's doing a mash pit?
Speaker 1: Did he get that?
Speaker 2: Like he's doing the nineteen ninety two mash pit? And
Speaker 2: it made me so happy.
Speaker 1: The way Whistler dances implies that he doesn't have rhythm
Speaker 1: at all, And I'm like, all he does is feel
Speaker 1: music all the time. I don't I think you'd be
Speaker 1: a great dancer.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, you're right, he should be a better Maybe
Speaker 2: this is maybe that is the best David straight.
Speaker 1: Hair, maybe just legitimately, how's David straight there and dances?
Speaker 2: They're like, just do your best dance because I think
Speaker 2: Whistler is a great dancer, right yeah, okay cool? And
Speaker 2: then he did that and they were like, okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, let's take it again.
Speaker 2: Let's take it again less arm flapping?
Speaker 1: Perhaps perhaps is this one? Uh, you're not actually a
Speaker 1: blind David straight air? And have you seen one of
Speaker 1: those little hula girls on the dashboard of a car.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what you're doing.
Speaker 2: And David straight's airand's like, yeah, that's my move.
Speaker 3: We love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right Mary, and Mary's like, I uh huh sure, sure, sure, absolutely, buddy.
Speaker 1: And she's wearing this like oversized business suit with these
Speaker 1: shoulder pads.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, A billion fucking dollars in this scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the exception of the monster who did her hair,
Speaker 1: the cockatoo on top of her head.
Speaker 2: I want charges brought up. I want I demand charges
Speaker 2: be brought against because of the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2: Her hair looks basically fine. It's not the most flattering hairstyle,
Speaker 2: but it's nineteen ninety two. There's not much we can
Speaker 2: do about that.
Speaker 1: And she can carry it off, and she can carry
Speaker 1: it off, but.
Speaker 2: They tease her bangs to like a peg Bundy level.
Speaker 2: It's hideous, unforgivably hideous. But you're right, the outfit slaps.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So she's dancing. They you know, they've decorated the loft
Speaker 2: that they all work. Increase's wife and daughter are there, right,
Speaker 2: we find out he has a wife. Cool, that's maybe
Speaker 2: one line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know she at least one, just one line.
Speaker 2: The daughter gets no lines, but she still gets one
Speaker 2: of my biggest last that's coming up in a moment.
Speaker 2: And there's cake, there's food, there's champagne. They are celebrating.
Speaker 2: They they have got one hundred and seventy five thousand
Speaker 2: dollars pay day. Carl gets up the courage to ask
Speaker 2: Marty about his past with Cosmo, like what happened to
Speaker 2: your friend? And Marty tells them all that his friend
Speaker 2: died in prison. Then they start to they change the
Speaker 2: subject to something a little bit more happy. They talk
Speaker 2: about what they're all gonna do with the money. Crease
Speaker 2: and his wife are going to Europe. We've never been
Speaker 2: to Europe. We're gonna go to Athens. We're gonna go
Speaker 2: to Madrid. We're gonna go to Tahiti, which Erica siles
Speaker 2: away later in the movie, and it does come back
Speaker 2: that he says.
Speaker 1: To Heiti confidence, confidence in these scriptwriters. This joke comes
Speaker 1: back an hour and a half later and lands so hard,
Speaker 1: so hard, because I was like, oh my god, they're
Speaker 1: just saying Tahiti's in Europe.
Speaker 2: They're supposed to know things in the CIA.
Speaker 1: If I know Tahiti's not in Europe. These guys should
Speaker 1: definitely know Tahiti's not in Europe. They all are claiming
Speaker 1: to be smarter than me, and I'm willing to accept that,
Speaker 1: but I know that in Europe.
Speaker 2: So okay, So Chris and his wife are going to
Speaker 2: have a whirldwind vacation. Mother wants a winnebig o and
Speaker 2: the way dan Ackroid just uses all his dan acrodiness
Speaker 2: to say, winn a big o with a waterbed and
Speaker 2: and a soup up kitchen. And I'm like, dream big buddy,
Speaker 2: dream big Carl with like a deep relationship with a
Speaker 2: beautiful woman, someone like Liz. And he then kind of
Speaker 2: shyly looks over at Liz because he's very sweet and insecure.
Speaker 2: And again I know he looks like River Phoenix, but
Speaker 2: god damn it, this works on me. Then they cut
Speaker 2: to Whistler and leave it's straight there and again he's
Speaker 2: playing a blind man who's not supposed to see what
Speaker 2: like where his hand is going. Says all I want
Speaker 2: is peace on earth and goodwill towards men, and then
Speaker 2: he puts his hand out towards the actress playing Crease's daughter,
Speaker 2: who's I don't know, thirteen maybe, or some or like seven.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I couldn't remember how old she was because
Speaker 2: she gives she gives thirteen year old face here though,
Speaker 2: let me tell you. He kind of like launches his
Speaker 2: hand at her, and then he grabs her hand that's
Speaker 2: sitting in her lap, and he goes goodwill towards men,
Speaker 2: and then he lifts her hand up and goes and women.
Speaker 2: And the little girl they cast to play this role
Speaker 2: cannot not look disgusted. She's like, don't touch me. I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is an improvised moment and she
Speaker 2: wasn't expecting it. I can't be improvised because they must
Speaker 2: have placed her next to him specifically for them to
Speaker 2: have this moment. But the actress cannot convey anything other
Speaker 2: than please do not touch me.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Later, the party has quieted, a
Speaker 1: game of scrabble has started. This is my kind of party,
Speaker 1: A party that ends in board games. I'm in.
Speaker 2: There is sheet cake, there is dancing, and there is scrabble.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: There is talk of travel.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: This is this is my dream party.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, it's perfect. Marty's in the process of spelling
Speaker 1: the word scrunchy, because he says, your face can get scrunchy,
Speaker 1: and know I was like, were They're not scrunchies.
Speaker 2: They're worst crunching that. Liz is the one who's like,
Speaker 2: that's not a word, and I'm like, girl, you and
Speaker 2: I both know that's a word. He might not know
Speaker 2: that's a word, but you and I both know that's
Speaker 2: a word exactly.
Speaker 1: Whistler starts to poke around on the black box and
Speaker 1: he and Carl start to wonder what Sea tech Astronomy means.
Speaker 1: They're kind of talking out loud, like away from the
Speaker 1: scrabble game, and that jog something in Marty's brain and
Speaker 1: he remembers that, well, that's right, no one knows what
Speaker 1: that code name was referring to ce tech astronomy. What
Speaker 1: does that mean? And he dumps out the scrabble tiles
Speaker 1: and he and Liz start to have that fun with
Speaker 1: anagrams we talked about with Sea tech Astronomy, and he's
Speaker 1: like Monterey's coast and everyone in the rooms like, that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. My socrates note they get Nada Cootie's
Speaker 1: rat semen. I don't know why they don't ask about that.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a hacker name to me from the
Speaker 1: nineties cooties rat semen. There was absolutely a handle.
Speaker 2: That's Matthew Lilard's handle.
Speaker 1: In Meanwhile, Whistler continues to explore the capabilities of the
Speaker 1: black Box.
Speaker 2: You know what, Whistler, you do the work.
Speaker 1: The mysteries of life are contained within the black box.
Speaker 2: You put the work in, and the black box will
Speaker 2: return the favor.
Speaker 1: He discovers an enormous cash of information. Just as the
Speaker 1: tiles form the phrase too many secrets.
Speaker 2: Whistler realizes that the black Box is capable of so
Speaker 2: much more than he ever thought it was.
Speaker 1: It can do anything.
Speaker 2: It makes noise.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it creeps out information.
Speaker 2: He ceps out. You know what, I wasn't going to
Speaker 2: use the Q word, but you're since you're doing it,
Speaker 2: you're bumming it up. Hey, this black box is just
Speaker 2: scorting information at me.
Speaker 1: Remember we weren't going to be make the double entendres.
Speaker 1: Remember for that thirty seconds, you know.
Speaker 2: We were gonna be fucking classy about this. We were
Speaker 2: gonna be Liz, and instead we're mother We're mothering. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're mothering, which is our version of mothering. Okay, so
Speaker 2: the is capable of decrypting and hacking into any network,
Speaker 2: including financial and government systems.
Speaker 1: So for those of you keeping up, this is the
Speaker 1: exact same mcguffin that is in the net, the exact same, exact.
Speaker 2: Same one, except this is interesting in this film, it
Speaker 2: only like like decrypts American things. That is kind of
Speaker 2: us come back later and I'm like, okay, that's super interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Crease is getting really freaked out. He's like, stop what
Speaker 2: you're doing right now, and then he sends his wife
Speaker 2: and daughter home immediately, and he turns to the rest
Speaker 2: of them and he says, do you realize that this
Speaker 2: code breaking capability is something that any government on Earth
Speaker 2: would kill us for. He goes to his desk because
Speaker 2: remember they're in their office, and he takes out his
Speaker 2: gun and Liz is like, well, this is where I
Speaker 2: get off, and she tries to leave, and he's like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Liz, you seem like a real swell lady. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but we can't trust anyone right now, and you knew
Speaker 2: about Marty's secret past, like kind of insinuating that, like
Speaker 2: we don't know where your loyalties lie.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She kind of looks at Marty. Marty puts his head
Speaker 2: down and she's like, thanks for the trust, fellas, and
Speaker 2: she sits back down.
Speaker 1: We cut to the next morning, Marty Increase head to
Speaker 1: the handoff. Marty is walking to the drop. He has
Speaker 1: got the answering machine in this case that has the
Speaker 1: black box inside of it. It's like a Turducan case.
Speaker 1: Answering machine, black box in the center right, it's a
Speaker 1: nesting doll. He has just given the package to Dick
Speaker 1: and Buddy when Chrease notices a headline on the paper
Speaker 1: in the back seat. So Chrise is like maybe thirty
Speaker 1: yards away by the car. Marty has walked up to
Speaker 1: this open air plaza to do the drop. Chris looks
Speaker 1: at this paper in the backseat and he sees a
Speaker 1: headline Janek was killed the night before. Something doesn't smell right.
Speaker 1: He grabs the car phone and he shouts at Marty,
Speaker 1: you've got a call. You've got a call. It's your mother.
Speaker 1: And Marty gets the hint. He calmly excuses himself, doesn't
Speaker 1: give anything away to Dick and Buddy. He gets back
Speaker 1: to the car and Chrease hisses at him, just get
Speaker 1: in drive, drive drive. They flee as Chris says, the
Speaker 1: NSA doesn't kill people, So who are Dick and Buddy?
Speaker 2: Back at Sneakers headquarters, the team realizes how badly they've
Speaker 2: been had so the NSA has never had a San
Speaker 2: Francisco office. Their office is based out of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: In fact, they find out that the building where he
Speaker 2: met these two was already like condemned, so like this
Speaker 2: was all some elaborate setup. Not only are these two
Speaker 2: guys not the NSA, but they then they discovered that
Speaker 2: the NSA, the actual NSSA, was the source of Jane's
Speaker 2: grant all along. Craze is like, how dumb are you
Speaker 2: that you did not do any yeah, like any background
Speaker 2: work on these guys before you brought this to us,
Speaker 2: And Marty's like they knew about my past, Like I panicked.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I've panicked. And then Marty's suspicion suddenly falls
Speaker 2: over Gregor remember the Russian ex spy that he knows,
Speaker 2: and he tells the Sneakers to pack up and move out.
Speaker 2: Everything in here is compromised. We got to find a
Speaker 2: safe house somewhere and they're like, where are you going?
Speaker 2: And he goes, I've got a concert to go to.
Speaker 1: He heads to the concert. It's funny how this is stage,
Speaker 1: because Gregor is like sitting there smoking a cigarette with
Speaker 1: this beautiful woman on his arm. Marty just like leans over.
Speaker 1: They're people everywhere. He pulls out a gun from his
Speaker 1: trench coat.
Speaker 2: There is a line of waiters standing behind him. The
Speaker 2: no fucking way the waiters don't see. Hey, is that
Speaker 2: not holding that? Or the guy by gunpoint? You know what,
Speaker 2: I don't get paid enough to care.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't care. Yeah, straight enough, don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he pulls Gregor away. He takes Gregor to
Speaker 1: an underground indoor pool.
Speaker 2: It seems I don't care because this is so goddamn cool.
Speaker 2: Well no, no, actually, this all does make some level
Speaker 2: of sense because it's not like the concert we're going
Speaker 2: to is like a string quartet. Right, classy people. These
Speaker 2: are all people in like tuxedos and ball gowns at
Speaker 2: this thing. Right, So they're probably at someone's mansion.
Speaker 1: They're at the embassy.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's an old mansion.
Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, fair, All embassies are like old.
Speaker 2: Like Gilded Age mansions. This is probably like the heated
Speaker 2: pool in the Russian embassy or whatever, the Ukrainian embassy.
Speaker 1: Oh, he demands the box back. Gregor vehemently denies that
Speaker 1: he or his government acquired the box, and he says, look,
Speaker 1: I can't talk to you about this year. Let's go
Speaker 1: for a drive.
Speaker 2: They get into a limo and Gregor takes out like
Speaker 2: photo albums, like like scrap books of old.
Speaker 1: Back before we had electronic files, Russian assets or not
Speaker 1: Russian assets, US agents that they thought they could turn.
Speaker 2: No, there's because there are actual Russian assets in there.
Speaker 2: We just find out that the person they have is
Speaker 2: someone who could not be turned. But anyway, he pulls
Speaker 2: out these like scrap books full of like angry looking
Speaker 2: scary men. Marty goes through the pictures of the operatives
Speaker 2: and he finally spots a picture of Buddy, the bigger guy.
Speaker 1: The scarier of the two, the non Timothy Bussfield.
Speaker 2: One non Timothy Busfield, who's played by Marla Hooch is dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and every time I see it, he's such a.
Speaker 2: Meani in this movie. He's such a bad guy and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, but that's Marla Hooch's dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a delight daughter.
Speaker 2: Gregor is like, oh, that is a loathsome man, and
Speaker 2: like when like the Russian spy is like that guy sucks,
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, no, that guy, that's a problem. Before
Speaker 2: he can further elaborate, the limo is pulled over and
Speaker 2: Gregor is like, it's like, oh, sigh, your FBI are
Speaker 2: so meddlesome. The limo is pulled over, an FBI agent
Speaker 2: shows his badge in the window and demands that Marty
Speaker 2: get out of the car. They know Bishops is with him.
Speaker 2: They're like, mister Bishop, please step out of the car.
Speaker 1: So Gregor turns to Marty and he says, look, this
Speaker 1: limo is technically part of the consulate. I can offer
Speaker 1: you asylum. Marty decides to get out of the limo
Speaker 1: despite this warning and Gregor in tones you won't know
Speaker 1: who to trust. The agent throws Marty up against the wall.
Speaker 1: He finds the gun in Marty's pocket and he asks
Speaker 1: if it's loaded. Marty says yes. The agent deliberately puts
Speaker 1: on a pair of gloves, turns around and executes Gregor
Speaker 1: and his driver with Marty's gun. Marty is shocked as
Speaker 1: the agent puts the gun on the ground and says
Speaker 1: too many secrets. Marty hears footsteps behind him, and he
Speaker 1: turns around just in time to see Marla who his dad,
Speaker 1: walk up and knock him out. Everything goes black, Erica,
Speaker 1: that's halfway through the movie. Should we take a little break?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, commercial break here.
Speaker 1: Well, commercial break here, we're gonna go. We're gonna use
Speaker 1: the bathroom perhaps, and then we will be right back
Speaker 1: after these messages to take you through the rest of
Speaker 1: Sneakers and we're back.
Speaker 2: So Marty, who's been knocked out, wakes up in the
Speaker 2: back of a car and can hear the highway going by.
Speaker 2: Before long, Buddy, Marla Hooch's dad opens the trunk it's like,
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to be awake, and takes the back
Speaker 2: of his gun and knocks him out again. Bitch, have
Speaker 2: you never heard of chloroform?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: There are nicer ways. You do not have to like
Speaker 2: fucking pistol whip him every time you want.
Speaker 1: Him to go down, but he wants to.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, Guys, find something that you love to
Speaker 2: do in life. Half as much as Buddy likes pistol
Speaker 2: whipping Marty. Yeah, as Buddy enjoys the act of pistol
Speaker 2: whipping people. If you can find your pistol whip.
Speaker 1: You love your job, You'll never work a day in
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: Now Marty is knocked out again. He wakes up again
Speaker 2: in a like austere looking room YEP. A shadowy figure
Speaker 2: asks him are you in pain? And he says yes,
Speaker 2: and the figure steps forward and tells him try aspirin
Speaker 2: and holds out a bottle of aspirin to him. Then
Speaker 2: the man performs the trick that we saw Cosmo do
Speaker 2: in the opening scene, and Marty says, Cosmo, this is
Speaker 2: indeed the long presumed dead Cosmo played by British actor
Speaker 2: Ben Kingsley.
Speaker 1: I was quite surprised. I feel like Robert Redford really
Speaker 1: underreacts to the idea that Cosmo is still alive. This
Speaker 1: man that you thought basically you got killed your friend,
Speaker 1: this man that you loved died because of what you did,
Speaker 1: and then you realize he's still alive, and he's like Cosmo.
Speaker 2: He's deeply concussed. You forget that part.
Speaker 1: That's true, that's fair.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked he can remember the name Cosmo. I'm sure.
Speaker 2: I'm so shocking. Was like Charlie, wait, I can't what
Speaker 2: was your name again. I'm so tired.
Speaker 1: What's name?
Speaker 2: Can I go to sleep? No? I shouldn't sleep right shoep.
Speaker 1: So Cosmo sits down. Marty asks him what the hell
Speaker 1: is going on? What happened? And Cosmo gives us his backstory.
Speaker 1: He explains that while he was in prison, he used
Speaker 1: his skills to help a couple of you know, friendly
Speaker 1: Italian guys, very family minded men, make a few phone
Speaker 1: calls and they arranged for his early release in exchange
Speaker 1: for his help and managing their financial operations. All of
Speaker 1: Cosmo's work for the MOB is encrypted so the government
Speaker 1: can't read it, which means that Cosmo and his bosses
Speaker 1: cannot afford for the FEDS to get jan xbox. Marty
Speaker 1: looks at him and he's like, bullshit, I don't buy
Speaker 1: that for a second. That is not why you're doing this.
Speaker 1: And Cosmo smiles like proudly yeah, and he holds a
Speaker 1: finger up to his lips and he kind of gestures
Speaker 1: to the ceiling like someone's listening. And he leads Marty
Speaker 1: to this like enclosed alcove in the corner of his
Speaker 1: office where presumptively there are no listening devices in.
Speaker 2: An American accent that suggests he learned how to do
Speaker 2: an American accent while underwater. Cosmo tells Marty that he
Speaker 2: thinks he can actually change the world as they planned
Speaker 2: all those years ago. So Cosmo has been radicalized. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's been in prison for a while. Yeah, and it
Speaker 2: has changed him fundamentally. He reminds Marty of all the
Speaker 2: problems in the country, corporations with too much money, politicians
Speaker 2: bought and sold, et cetera, et cetera, time immemorial, the
Speaker 2: problems of the United States.
Speaker 1: Right, Luckily we solved them by everything's good, you guys,
Speaker 1: everything's good here.
Speaker 2: We nailed it. No worries. And He's like, no matter
Speaker 2: how much money we throw at problems in this country, poverty, crime,
Speaker 2: they remain because quote, money's most powerful ability is to
Speaker 2: allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the
Speaker 2: expense of those who don't have it. End quote, Marty's like, yeah, duh.
Speaker 1: We're hurtling like a skydiver towards late stage capitalism. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no fucking parachute, right, no parachute.
Speaker 2: And Cosmo goes on to explain that using the black box,
Speaker 2: he could cause any number of institutions to fail from
Speaker 2: banks to governments to actual countries. He could crash the
Speaker 2: whole damn system. And look, as much as I'm making
Speaker 2: fun of Ben Kingsley's performance, the accent is terrible. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. He sounds like one of the Canadians
Speaker 2: on South Park. But like the performance is so good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he abused it with this like level of intelligence where
Speaker 2: you understand like he's not dumb. Yeah, got this gleam
Speaker 2: in his eye and he's like, don't you see it,
Speaker 2: don't you see the beauty of our creation? What we
Speaker 2: can do. We can free the world.
Speaker 1: Marty kind of chuckles and he's like, oh, you're crazy,
Speaker 1: very very bold statement in your current situation. Marty Cosmo
Speaker 1: is not amused. He walks out of that little privacy
Speaker 1: alcove and he starts to explain to Marty that, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna start changing some police files. So
Speaker 1: tomorrow when they run the prince on the gun that
Speaker 1: killed Gregor and his driver, they will find that they
Speaker 1: match Martin Bryce. You know that that identity that you
Speaker 1: used to it, that you tried to get rid of.
Speaker 1: And they're also gonna find out that Martin Bryce is
Speaker 1: a known alias of Martin Bishop. So Marty's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: we're cool. Don't do that please, and Cosmo says pain
Speaker 1: and Marty nods, and Cosmo says, try prison, and he
Speaker 1: hits enter and he makes all of these adjustments to
Speaker 1: the police files. Dick appears behind Marty to choke him out,
Speaker 1: as Cosmo smiles and says, no more secrets, Mardi.
Speaker 2: So they knock Marty out, They put him in a car,
Speaker 2: they toss him on some random street in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: He makes his way to Liz's apartment. She lets him
Speaker 2: in immediately. She starts to clean him up because he
Speaker 2: looks worse for wear.
Speaker 1: Let's just say he looks as bad as Robert Redford
Speaker 1: is capable of looking, which is better than me on
Speaker 1: my best day run over with a mac truck.
Speaker 2: Robert Redford is so better than me with a glam squad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she starts to clean him up. He looks at her
Speaker 2: soulfully and says he's sorry, and she immediately says it's okay.
Speaker 2: But then he takes her hand, looks at her again
Speaker 2: and says, no, really, I'm sorry, clearly apologizing for more
Speaker 2: than just showing up at her apartment and announcement clearly
Speaker 2: apologizing for all the stuff that's gone on with them
Speaker 2: in their past, and the two of them embrace and
Speaker 2: he says I can't do what I need to do alone,
Speaker 2: and she says, I'm here, My god.
Speaker 1: The chemistry this is mentos and a leader of diet coke.
Speaker 1: It is exploding. A ah ah. This is the first
Speaker 1: look we get at Liz's palatial apartment.
Speaker 2: There's a grand piano in here, and it really doesn't
Speaker 2: take up.
Speaker 1: That much space. No, it's an aside room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you know someone has space when they're like,
Speaker 2: where's your grand piano? I can't find it.
Speaker 1: Marty calls the sneakers and they all convene at Liz's
Speaker 1: Crease is like, look, we got to call the authorities.
Speaker 1: Mother's like, we can't call the authorities, but we have
Speaker 1: we have nothing, blah blah blah. Marty is finally like, look,
Speaker 1: we call the authorities, but we call them our way.
Speaker 1: They phone in with as many safeguards against tracing as
Speaker 1: they can set up, like Whistler is bouncing the signal
Speaker 1: off of all these different satellites and locations whatever.
Speaker 2: We've all seen movies we know how this works.
Speaker 1: They get Agent Bernard Abbot on the phone. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say who plays Agent Bernard Abbot right
Speaker 1: now because it was a genuine surprise for me.
Speaker 2: Do you know what's funny is in this scene when
Speaker 2: they're talking to Agent Bernard Abbit. I thought that Adrian
Speaker 2: Bernard Abbot was another red herring that they were not
Speaker 2: talking to anyone at the NSA. I swore to you
Speaker 2: that this person was using a voice, a disguiser.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, this person's not that's not that's
Speaker 2: not anyone's real voice. No one sounds like that. Just
Speaker 2: a little hint, little hint, little little little easter, I guess.
Speaker 2: So what's coming?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bernard Abbot pretty quickly realizes they're talking about the
Speaker 1: black Box and he's like, well, do you have it?
Speaker 1: And and Marty's honestly says no. Meanwhile, while all this
Speaker 1: is going on, mother has set up this like mcgyverd
Speaker 1: polygraph to measure the tension in Bernard Abbot's voice. He's
Speaker 1: telling the truth, he's telling the truth. He's telling the truth.
Speaker 1: And then Marty s, can you guarantee our safety? Bernard
Speaker 1: Abbot is like, yes, I can guarantee your safety. And
Speaker 1: Mother's like, he's lying, and we see that the trace
Speaker 1: is getting closer and closer and closer to finding them,
Speaker 1: and all the sneakers are like, hang up, hang up,
Speaker 1: and Marty's not hanging up. They're like hang up, hang up,
Speaker 1: and finally Marty hangs up. People, this is gonna come
Speaker 1: up again later in the movie if you're in a
Speaker 1: time sensitive situation and your team says.
Speaker 2: Go, go go. This is honestly the truly the dumbest
Speaker 2: scene in the entire movie for one big reason. They
Speaker 2: are on a speakerphone. Yeah, and Marty is talking to
Speaker 2: the guy at the NSA on a speakerphone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And all the.
Speaker 2: Other guys are full voiced going he's lying, He's telling
Speaker 2: the truth. They found the trace, and I'm like, guys,
Speaker 2: he can hear you. There is no part of this
Speaker 2: call that that guy isn't like, well, there's at least
Speaker 2: five people in that room. One of them seems to
Speaker 2: have some kind of makeshift slide.
Speaker 1: Detector machine, and like, what are you doing.
Speaker 2: The sneakers realize they have to get the black Box
Speaker 2: back in order to have any chance of making a
Speaker 2: deal with the government, right they have zero leverage and
Speaker 2: all kinds of crimes being attributed to them. At this point,
Speaker 2: Whistler starts to quiz Marty on what he heard while
Speaker 2: he was in the trunk of the car, because because
Speaker 2: Marty's like, I have absolutely no idea how to track
Speaker 2: down that stupid black box to get how to get
Speaker 2: to where I don't even know where I was when
Speaker 2: when I was kidnapped, And Whistl's like, okay, you were
Speaker 2: thrown in the trunk of the car. What did you hear?
Speaker 2: And he uses like cassio keyboard frankly essentially essentially to
Speaker 2: kind of like create a soundscape of what Redford heard
Speaker 2: while he was in the car. He's like, I heard
Speaker 2: the sound of like concrete maybe, And he's like, okay,
Speaker 2: seems in the concrete. Did you know did you go
Speaker 2: over any bridges? And he's like, yes, definitely went over
Speaker 2: a bridge. And they're like, okay, well the Golden gate
Speaker 2: was fogged in last night. Did you hear foghorn? He
Speaker 2: thinks about it, he goes, no, no, foghorn. They're able
Speaker 2: to recreate the route that the guys took just through
Speaker 2: the sounds and through all of this magic. The sneakers
Speaker 2: are able to locate a reservoir with a bunch of
Speaker 2: geese or ducks in it, and across the hill over
Speaker 2: the reservoir is a large office building on a private
Speaker 2: plot of land. It's marked as Playtronics, you know, just
Speaker 2: your average innocuous toy company.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: And then Marty's like, well that's laser fencing and a
Speaker 2: hell of a lot of security for a toy company
Speaker 2: that ain't no toy company. So they have now discovered
Speaker 2: Cosmo's hideout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they set up their surveillance on Playtronics, using
Speaker 1: Whistler's preach natural hearing to make a map of the building.
Speaker 1: So they figure out what office must be Cosmos, and
Speaker 1: then they figure out that the office next door is
Speaker 1: occupied by one doctor Werner Brandis, who uses a voice
Speaker 1: pass key. To get into his office. He has to
Speaker 1: say Hi, my name is Warne or Brandis my voice
Speaker 1: is my passport? Verify me? And they say, all right,
Speaker 1: we know this, we know this trick. In order to
Speaker 1: get in, we're going to need his ID card and
Speaker 1: also his voice saying those words.
Speaker 2: So they start to hunt for a way in with
Speaker 2: Warner like, how do we infiltrate this guy, but he is,
Speaker 2: increases words, the world's most boring human. I just want
Speaker 2: to point out he's the kind of man who has
Speaker 2: personalized license plates on his car that say one eighty
Speaker 2: IQ yep, dick H. Mother comes in with Warner's trash
Speaker 2: and they dump it out all over Liz's living room
Speaker 2: and they start to like rifle through his trash. They
Speaker 2: hunt for any kind of lead they could find. Okay,
Speaker 2: I just want to build a case here about Warner
Speaker 2: because the movie writes a check it does not cash.
Speaker 2: Warner lives in San Francisco. Yeah, Warner enjoys club med.
Speaker 2: Warner goes to Barry Manilow concerts.
Speaker 1: That's correct.
Speaker 2: Are you telling me this is a straight man?
Speaker 1: They are?
Speaker 2: This film is gaslighting me into believing that this is
Speaker 2: a straight man in nineteen ninety two San Francisco. Fuck
Speaker 2: you movie. I know what I'm I know what I
Speaker 2: know who he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed to like.
Speaker 2: Because there's a honeypot situation coming. And I got why
Speaker 2: they did what they did. But don't make the concert.
Speaker 2: He goes to Barry Manilow. You guys, make it anything else,
Speaker 2: make it fucking the Philharmonic. Yeah, okay, the honeypot needed
Speaker 2: to be carled, you guys. So Marty finds a receipt
Speaker 2: from comput Dat and he squints his eyes and says, aha,
Speaker 2: he's a computer dater.
Speaker 3: He says it with some.
Speaker 2: Level of like he's making fun of him. Yeah, disdain,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you guys have no idea what's coming.
Speaker 2: The sneakers are like, okay, we need a honeypot to
Speaker 2: send to this guy. Because what's funny is they only
Speaker 2: know that he's a computer dater. They still don't know
Speaker 2: his orientation at all, but they all immediately assume they're
Speaker 2: talking about a straight man, and so they're like, what
Speaker 2: about that lady we worked with once? And Liz is like, guys,
Speaker 2: look at this garbage. And then mother goes, this is
Speaker 2: the cleanest garbage I've ever seen. And she picks up
Speaker 2: a like very precisely folded tube of toothpaste, and she goes,
Speaker 2: the man who folded up this tube of toothpaste does
Speaker 2: not want buff He wants someone meticulous, refined, anal And
Speaker 2: the men all turn and look at her, and she
Speaker 2: goes what.
Speaker 1: Smash cut to a Chinese restaurant, a live band is
Speaker 1: rocking out to Leroy Brown in Chinese. I really enjoyed this.
Speaker 2: I've always loved this song because of his association with
Speaker 2: this movie for me.
Speaker 1: Liz arrives and she spots Werner played by the great
Speaker 1: Stephen Tobolowski. So good, so good. He's putting in eye
Speaker 1: drops at the table. Fantastic.
Speaker 2: This guy's a mess.
Speaker 1: He's a mess. And Mary McDonald walks over and she
Speaker 1: is in full it's not even sex pot it's sexy.
Speaker 1: It's like her voice is deep, it's confidence.
Speaker 2: It's seductive.
Speaker 1: Yes, she walks over. She introduces herself as Dora. He
Speaker 1: is deeply awkward. He immediately asks are you ready for
Speaker 1: the dim sum bar? And she says, well, I'm not
Speaker 1: in any hurry, and he says, okay, I'll be right back,
Speaker 1: and he just goes to the dim sum bar. Look,
Speaker 1: it's not a good move on the first date. But
Speaker 1: if I'm at a dim sum bar and I'm waiting
Speaker 1: for you, be ready to eat when you arrive. You
Speaker 1: have kept me from dumplings and pork buns long enough,
Speaker 1: my friend, I'm at a dim sum bar, that means
Speaker 1: I'm hungry because I will not have eaten prior to
Speaker 1: getting there, because I want to shove my face full
Speaker 1: of Chinese dim sum. I went for dim sum last weekend.
Speaker 1: It was fucking great, and I want to go again.
Speaker 1: I love dim sum so much, so good.
Speaker 2: I even love those like those soup dumplings that are
Speaker 2: guaranteed to rot the inside of my mouth, So to
Speaker 2: scorch the inside of my mouth? Do it wrong with
Speaker 2: fire and brimstone? No, I know how to do it
Speaker 2: correctly too, I just refuse.
Speaker 1: To ye, Well, that's your choice.
Speaker 2: My five year old lizard brain takes over and it's like,
Speaker 2: cut it all in your mouth. But no, it's hot,
Speaker 2: like no, shut up, put it all in your mouth.
Speaker 1: Oh, soup dumplings are so good. I can't get on
Speaker 1: Chinese food again. I can't. We had a whole You
Speaker 1: want to hear me talk about Chinese food, Go listen
Speaker 1: to rush hour. Okay? He heads for the food. She
Speaker 1: checks the recording device on her arm, and then she
Speaker 1: crosses the word high off of the notepad that she's
Speaker 1: written his pass god on. She needs to get him
Speaker 1: to say the words, remember hi, my name is Werner
Speaker 1: brandis my voice? Is my passport? Verify me? She needs
Speaker 1: to get all of these words on tape.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, the sneakers are determining what they have to
Speaker 2: deal with in Cosmo's office, right, like, what's the level
Speaker 2: of security we have here? Turns out, think small, angry country.
Speaker 1: That's what we got.
Speaker 2: That's what we're working with here. It's protected by both
Speaker 2: heat and motion sensors. So they decide to raise the
Speaker 2: temperature in the office to ninety eight point six to
Speaker 2: make sure that it doesn't detect any heat when he
Speaker 2: enters the office, and Marty has to start practice moving
Speaker 2: no faster than two inches per second in order to
Speaker 2: defeat the motion sensor.
Speaker 1: We cut back to the Chinese restaurant. Liz has almost
Speaker 1: completed her assignment, but she still needs Werner to get
Speaker 1: to say the word passport. As the workers vacuum the
Speaker 1: restaurant around them. The restaurant is closing, they are still there.
Speaker 1: She has not completed the job. She has to resort
Speaker 1: to acting as if Werner has the most beautiful voice.
Speaker 1: And Stephen Tobolowski If you if you guys don't know
Speaker 1: who Stephen Tobolowski is, just look him up. You will
Speaker 1: see his face. You'll mediately go, oh that guy. He
Speaker 1: has this line where he says, really, I always thought
Speaker 1: it was kind of nasal and pinched.
Speaker 2: And she's like, no, no, no, it's resonance.
Speaker 1: So she has to say, oh, it's just this word.
Speaker 1: I would just I would just love to hear you
Speaker 1: say passport, and Werner goes passport and she goes mmm.
Speaker 1: She acts so turned on. She gets this guy to
Speaker 1: believe that she's into him.
Speaker 2: It's the Day of the Sneak, y'all.
Speaker 1: I love that they call these things sneaks, not jobs
Speaker 1: or heists. They're sneaks.
Speaker 2: They're sneaks. So we cut to the day of the Sneak.
Speaker 2: Carl heads into the Platronics building once the workday is done.
Speaker 2: He is disguised as a gardener. He goes past the
Speaker 2: security guard by saying I need to use the john
Speaker 2: and he makes his way into the ducts from the bathroom.
Speaker 2: He hitches a ride on the elevator to Cosmo's floor
Speaker 2: and starts to heat the office to the required temperature.
Speaker 1: Yep. We cut to a bit later on. The sun
Speaker 1: has set and Liz is on her second date with Werner.
Speaker 1: She's thrilled. He's saying things like I'll join you. As
Speaker 1: soon as I'm done pounding these breasts.
Speaker 2: He does this thing where he's like, you know, the
Speaker 2: best part about this meal is that it's only four
Speaker 2: hundred calories.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh jesu.
Speaker 2: And then he has a whole bit about like how
Speaker 2: the healthiest diet in the world is the bottom of
Speaker 2: a monkey cage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have to say, well.
Speaker 2: That's probably technically true. It doesn't sound as appealing as
Speaker 2: the Mediterranean diet.
Speaker 1: Agreed, let's just agree to call it the.
Speaker 2: Mediterranean diet, because then it sounds like you're on vacation.
Speaker 1: Grease, not that you're eating monkey scat. So Werner is
Speaker 1: making Liz dinner, says, Oh, it's so hot in here,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna open this window. She lifts his wallet
Speaker 1: out of his jacket pocket and hands the wallet out
Speaker 1: the window to mother, who's outside. Mother takes Werner's ID
Speaker 1: card and passes it back to Liz, who replaces it
Speaker 1: in Werner's jacket.
Speaker 2: We cut to Marty on his way to playtronics. Werner's
Speaker 2: key card gets him in and he hooks the team
Speaker 2: into the CC cameras from the From the stairwell, he
Speaker 2: heads to the office where the mocked up voice gets
Speaker 2: him in where he sneaks into the ducks in Warner's
Speaker 2: office to climb over into Cosmo's office next door, and
Speaker 2: starts his slow, hot creep across the floor.
Speaker 1: Back at Liz's date, Werner is showing her an animatronic
Speaker 1: voice activated dog toy that he created. I mean, kids,
Speaker 1: if you've got one of these, it's a great first date,
Speaker 1: second date thing. Try to charm you with your with
Speaker 1: your animatronic voice activated dog toy that you created.
Speaker 2: I have so many questions because Cosmo's Company quote unquote
Speaker 2: company is some dark, evil, malignant force in the world, right,
Speaker 2: and Warner is part of like the crew, but like
Speaker 2: he has to also pretend that he really does make toys,
Speaker 2: Like did he actually make that like in his spare time,
Speaker 2: because when you get into Warner's office, it's very clear
Speaker 2: he's got mockups of like some sketchy looking shit in there. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: this is not a toymaker.
Speaker 1: Okay. So he shows Liz this voice activated dog toy.
Speaker 1: She is desperate for a break, so she's like, hey,
Speaker 1: can I use your phone? Presumptively, she has to stay
Speaker 1: because they're going to try to return the ID card
Speaker 1: to Werner's wallet. Yeah, I don't know. While she wouldn't
Speaker 1: have just left, so presumptibly that's her reason for still
Speaker 1: being there. He says, Okay, yeah, the phone's in the bedroom.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, So she goes. Unfortunately, the dog toy knocks
Speaker 1: her purse over and her wallet falls out. Warner picks
Speaker 1: it up, sees her ID, and starts to put two
Speaker 1: and two together. He goes to the bedroom. She's on
Speaker 1: her phone call, and he suggests they go for a drive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Stephen Tobolowski is such a silly actor, but he
Speaker 1: has a very good job of switching this into very
Speaker 1: menacing Immediately he drives her.
Speaker 2: To playtronics, not answering any of her questions about where
Speaker 2: the fuck they're going. All of a sudden, right and
Speaker 2: Chrise and mother see them approaching, and they get on
Speaker 2: the horn to Marty and they're like, Marty may Day incoming.
Speaker 2: You've got to hurry up. And Robert Redford does such
Speaker 2: a beautiful job with just barely moving his face, and
Speaker 2: he goes, hurrying is the one thing I can't do.
Speaker 1: Maybe you should try somehow stalling them.
Speaker 2: Werner, who is now like pissed, he barges into the building.
Speaker 2: He's spouting his very correct theories to the front desk
Speaker 2: guard that Liz is facilitating a break into his office.
Speaker 2: At this very moment, you have to go to my office.
Speaker 2: There is a break in happening, And Liz, of course
Speaker 2: is just like, how dare you insinuate that I am
Speaker 2: not Doris your mild mannered date like I said, I am. Yeah, Cosmo,
Speaker 2: Dick and Buddy appear, and Cosmo, like again played brilliantly
Speaker 2: in some ways by Ben Kingsley, is like good keeping
Speaker 2: things close to the chest. So just like scary enough
Speaker 2: goes all right, let's head upstairs and see what's happening
Speaker 2: in Warner's office. So now the tension is ratcheting up
Speaker 2: for poor old Liz Pearl. Liz is now in the
Speaker 2: lions Den.
Speaker 1: Marty continues his slow hot heist, finally making it back
Speaker 1: to the ducks with the answering machine containing the box.
Speaker 1: He heads back to Werner's, cleans up the evidence, and
Speaker 1: makes his way back into the ducks just in time
Speaker 1: to avoid being caught by Cosmo and company. So he
Speaker 1: makes it right by seconds. He makes it. Werner has
Speaker 1: to admit that his office is exactly as he left it.
Speaker 1: And Liz, who we should remember was a sneaker, right,
Speaker 1: so she's cool in this moment. She's not panicked yet
Speaker 1: she does a good job of acting offended as well.
Speaker 1: Certainly this is the last time we've be seeing this man.
Speaker 1: And then she says this will be my last computer date,
Speaker 1: and Cosmo smells a rat. He says, there is no way,
Speaker 1: there is no way that a computer matched this woman
Speaker 1: up with that guy. This Liz is incandescent, and Werner
Speaker 1: is Werner who we love. But he's Werner all right,
Speaker 1: Like he puts in eye drops and is tries to
Speaker 1: talk with a mouthful of pork bun on first date.
Speaker 1: Something is not right, he says.
Speaker 2: Mady mudy, because you have to remember he spent twenty
Speaker 2: years in prison in the town from our town.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, now he speaks with that accent.
Speaker 2: He's spent twenty years in prison inside of a James
Speaker 2: Cagney curton. So okay, this got the biggest laugh from
Speaker 2: my brother while we were watching the movie where he's
Speaker 2: like fat and I'm like, what's funny, and he's like,
Speaker 2: a computer could totally have maatch. These two people up.
Speaker 1: What is he talking about? It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: I was like, you are right, it doesn't make any sense, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: technically they both probably have similar interests, right, they're both
Speaker 2: well like everyone says the same bullshit, like I like
Speaker 2: to read, I like to go to the movies, I
Speaker 2: like restaurants, Like everyone's profile is generic and the exact.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it could have very easily matched them up,
Speaker 2: Like there's no way the computer knows what a turd
Speaker 2: Warner is, right, especially since he's good at computers, so
Speaker 2: he would he would know what to say. The computer
Speaker 2: can't see Warner see what we see what it can't
Speaker 2: hear him. My brother is absolutely right. There is every
Speaker 2: reason to believe that that is a kosher date that
Speaker 2: the two of them were matched up by a computer.
Speaker 2: So Cosmo rushes to his office and he sees the
Speaker 2: answering machine is gone, and he's like, why is it
Speaker 2: so fucking hot in here? The alarms start to go off.
Speaker 2: Guards start to rush and storm the built, and they
Speaker 2: are carrying giant guns. This is not this is this
Speaker 2: is going to be a spray m till they're dead
Speaker 2: situation if they're caught, Cosmo is sure that Marty is
Speaker 2: hiding in the ducks. He's figured it out pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Buddy on the patrol can hear the radio in Marty's ear,
Speaker 2: so he just starts firing his shotgun into the ceiling. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just like if he hits Marty, Marty turned like Marty
Speaker 2: turns into a pinata who's been hit. Like pieces of
Speaker 2: Marty and Candy are gonna fall out of the fucking scene.
Speaker 1: Hardy becomes a fine misted Yes.
Speaker 2: At the last minute, Cosmo stops Buddy from shooting. He says,
Speaker 2: stop shooting, and he announces over the intercom. You always
Speaker 2: had to win, Marty, didn't you. You always had to
Speaker 2: be the smartest, be the best. You always had to
Speaker 2: get the girl. And at first I'm like, what the
Speaker 2: hell does that mean? And then we cut to him
Speaker 2: with Liz and he's like, well, now I've got the girl.
Speaker 2: He says, the only way to get out alive is
Speaker 2: to just to trust him. Marty, I cannot kill you, Matty.
Speaker 2: You have to trust me, Matty. He's like, I won't
Speaker 2: kill you, I won't kill Liz. I just want the box.
Speaker 2: This is not about revenge. This is about making the
Speaker 2: world a better place. This is about my mission. Marty
Speaker 2: knows it's a trap, frankly, but he's like, I have
Speaker 2: no choice. They have Liz. He tells the team, I'm
Speaker 2: going in. You hear me, Carl, And we cut to Carl,
Speaker 2: who's still in the building, right, he's still in the
Speaker 2: ducks and he goes, yes, I hear you.
Speaker 1: So Marty turns himself in. So we have Dick and
Speaker 1: Buddy the two guards. We have Cosmo, we have Liz
Speaker 1: and Marty. There's this great moment where he comes in
Speaker 1: and he sees Liz and they have like this very
Speaker 1: like how you doing, Yeah, I know, like this very
Speaker 1: like chill conversation, like cool people do. He confirms the
Speaker 1: deal with Cosmo, and Cosmo smiles, and Marty senses something
Speaker 1: is off. He says, you gave me your word, and
Speaker 1: Cosmo sighs, and he says, I cannot kill my friend.
Speaker 1: Then he looks at Dick and Buddy and says, kill
Speaker 1: my friend, and he leaves ice cold, Ice cold. Marty
Speaker 1: doesn't seem too concerned. He says now, and Buddy's like what,
Speaker 1: and nothing happens, and Marty says now again, and Buddy's
Speaker 1: like yeah, you're right, cocks the gun and Marty's like
Speaker 1: Carl now, and Carl leaps down from the duct and
Speaker 1: tackles Dick to the floor, knocking him out. Marty scuffles
Speaker 1: with Buddy long enough for Liz to grab Dick's gun
Speaker 1: and hold them at gunpoint, giving Marty the chance to
Speaker 1: stand up. He takes the gun from Liz and he
Speaker 1: pistol whips Buddy, knocking Buddy out onto the floor as well.
Speaker 2: There's a great moment with Mary McDonald here where she
Speaker 2: picks up the gun and she is physically and deeply shaking,
Speaker 2: and she's like, put your gun down. I'm an excellent marchman, marchwoman.
Speaker 1: Marty stands up and he's like Carl, I said now
Speaker 1: three times, and Carl's like, what I just did was hard.
Speaker 1: Don't judge me.
Speaker 2: That wasn't easy. What I just did, Okay. What we
Speaker 2: have really kind of neglected to talk about is how
Speaker 2: funny this movie is. Every single scene has great, perfectly
Speaker 2: executed jokes.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So Marty, Liz, and Carl start to flee through the building.
Speaker 2: They're heading for the roof. They call to Chrease and
Speaker 2: Mother to come and get them. There and Chrease and
Speaker 2: mother are in the van. Unfortunately, just as the getaway
Speaker 2: car is about to head for the building, two of
Speaker 2: the guards appear and take Crease and Mother hostile. So
Speaker 2: now Chrise and Mother are outside of the van. They're
Speaker 2: being held hostage, their hands are up, and the van
Speaker 2: is empty, or so the guards think. Turns out Whistler
Speaker 2: is still in there, and as Carl and Liz make
Speaker 2: their way down to the parking lot from the roof,
Speaker 2: they're like climbing down a fire escape. Marty stays on
Speaker 2: the roof and he coaches Whistler on how to drive
Speaker 2: the van to the extraction point. He's like, Whistler, you've
Speaker 2: got to drive. Was just like, no, man, I'm blind, remember,
Speaker 2: And he's like, no, you're the only one.
Speaker 1: You've got to drive, and you gotta do it.
Speaker 2: So he gets in the seat excellent, like David straight
Speaker 2: their and is perfect. He's so nervous. He's like, but
Speaker 2: I can do this. I can do this. And he
Speaker 2: tells him exactly, like how many times to click the
Speaker 2: gear ship down to go into reverse. Yeah, And he's like, okay,
Speaker 2: once you go into reverse, and when I say go,
Speaker 2: just gun it and he's like okay, okay, and he's
Speaker 2: like go and he just starts to drive backwards and
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm driving, I'm driving. There's a very very
Speaker 2: fun moment where he's like, and now you're gonna hit
Speaker 2: a gentle down and gentle and he's like, okay, I
Speaker 2: can do a gentle downslope. And then it's like, meanwhile,
Speaker 2: well that's going on. Chris and the End and mother
Speaker 2: are being held hostage. When they're being held hostage, one
Speaker 2: of the guards, who are both white should be mentioned,
Speaker 2: turns to Crease and it says, all right, midnight, Crese
Speaker 2: you could just see gets like, well, now you've done it, sir,
Speaker 2: Now you've awakened the Hulk.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine being like the the kid trying to
Speaker 1: make it? As an actor, you get a couple of
Speaker 1: lines in a movie, and your line is to throw
Speaker 1: a racist comment at Sidney fucking Poitier.
Speaker 2: Honestly, you're part of film history when you do that.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, that's what you have to be a character,
Speaker 1: and you're not really.
Speaker 2: Part of film history. But when you do to Sidney Poitier,
Speaker 2: you're part of film history.
Speaker 1: I would be shaking if I had to do that
Speaker 1: be absolutely trembling.
Speaker 2: Mister Poitier, sir, I'm so sorry. Here we go. So Chris,
Speaker 2: you could see, has just gotten his hackles up from that,
Speaker 2: right from that moment. And while they have their hands up,
Speaker 2: he asks, mother, did you ever tell you why I
Speaker 2: had to leave the the CIA? And Mother's like nope,
Speaker 2: and he goes, well, turns out I have a really
Speaker 2: foul temper, and he takes both guards down, unarms them,
Speaker 2: calls one of them a motherfucker, and holds him at gunpoint.
Speaker 2: It's just the rated R movie or PG threeteen.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I think it must be PG thirteen because it's the
Speaker 2: only it's the only course in the entire movie. And
Speaker 2: they're like, please, can we have a mother in this movie?
Speaker 1: So everyone's safe, except, of course for Marty. He starts
Speaker 1: to climb down the fire escape that Carl and Liz
Speaker 1: climbed down before, but Cosmo appears and he holds him
Speaker 1: at gunpoint. So we were back with Cosmo and Marty
Speaker 1: just as the movie started. Cosmo demands the box. He
Speaker 1: tells him the world is run by computers now, and
Speaker 1: Marty's like, I'm not giving it to you, and he
Speaker 1: fires a shot on the gun and it bounces off
Speaker 1: the ladder, and Marty's like Jesus Christ, and He's like,
Speaker 1: I missed on purpose. Give it to me. So Marty's like, fine,
Speaker 1: fucking take it. He takes the answering machine out of
Speaker 1: the bag, he hands it to him and he goes
Speaker 1: to leave again, but Cosmo like he wants Marty to understand,
Speaker 1: he wants Marty to be with it, with him on this.
Speaker 1: He says, we started this journey together, and Marty says,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a journey. There was a prank, right that
Speaker 1: this was fun. We were like bilking assholes out of
Speaker 1: their money. Yeah. Cosmo tells him there's a war and
Speaker 1: it's all about information, and Marty's like, look, if I
Speaker 1: was you, I would destroy that box, just fucking slay
Speaker 1: that box.
Speaker 2: You know who I bet can really destroy a box?
Speaker 3: Robert And.
Speaker 2: I bet, I bet I bet. He takes a ginger
Speaker 2: battering ram right to the box just uh annihilates it.
Speaker 1: He says. He says, destroy the box while you have
Speaker 1: the chance, and he's like, I'm leaving, and Cosmo his
Speaker 1: voice nearly breaks. He says, please don't go, and Marty says, Look,
Speaker 1: if you want to stop me, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: pull the trigger. And he starts to climb down the
Speaker 1: ladder and Cosmo's looking at him, and he's holding the
Speaker 1: gun on him, and Marty's looking at him, and Cosmo
Speaker 1: holds his fire. So Marty escapes. Cosmo just kind of sighs.
Speaker 1: He puts the gun down. He opens up the answering
Speaker 1: machine and there's no black box inside Mudy money.
Speaker 2: Okay. I love this moment, like it's unexpected. Cosmo, yes,
Speaker 2: definitely a villain. Yeah, definitely weird and crazy, but like
Speaker 2: and he definitely tries to kill his friend earlier. But
Speaker 2: when push comes to shove when it's just the two
Speaker 2: of them, he changes his mind. Yeah, and he's like,
Speaker 2: let's do this together. I don't want to do this alone.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be alone in this. Like you,
Speaker 2: you and I are, You and I are friends. You
Speaker 2: see eye to eye on this, I know we do.
Speaker 2: And he shows like a real vulnerability on the page.
Speaker 2: It could be that Marty's just trying the Cosmo is
Speaker 2: just trying to manipulate Marty, right, But I don't think
Speaker 2: it is. I think the way that Ben Kingsley's choosing
Speaker 2: to play it is like kind of lonely and sad absolutely,
Speaker 2: and he wants he wants his friend, the only other
Speaker 2: person who like understands him, to be in on this
Speaker 2: with him, and he's actually it's almost it's not, but
Speaker 2: it's almost like it feels almost like a romantic overture.
Speaker 1: And it's also like this moment of like Cosmo's life
Speaker 1: did not go well, right, like he he wound up
Speaker 1: in jail.
Speaker 2: He wound up in jail in Boston in the nineteen thirties, right.
Speaker 1: There was Tommy Gunzo's al Capone. It was a whole thing.
Speaker 1: It was a whole thing, but he wound up in
Speaker 1: jail and they had like this this dream. He was
Speaker 1: a dreamer with this with his friend Marty, right, and
Speaker 1: Marty's life went one way and his life one another.
Speaker 1: And like there's some bitterness in the fact that he
Speaker 1: got caught and Marty didn't, that's definitely there, but it's
Speaker 1: also like he wants that life back. He wants to
Speaker 1: be the person he was before he went to jail,
Speaker 1: before he became a crime lord, before he kind of
Speaker 1: became this radical activist for not activists, but this activist activist, yes,
Speaker 1: radical activist, and Marty is like, I think to him,
Speaker 1: like the key to going back right. If I'm with you,
Speaker 1: then I won't have all of this other, this other
Speaker 1: stuff will be like less because they I'll be like
Speaker 1: back at that time in my life where I was
Speaker 1: innocent and all this shit hadn't happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the Sneakers head back to their old HQ,
Speaker 2: that old loft they had, and who should they find
Speaker 2: there but a bunch of NSA agents holding giant guns.
Speaker 2: And they are with the agent they spoke with on
Speaker 2: the phone, agent Bernard Abbott, played by the great and
Speaker 2: good another icon.
Speaker 1: Huh, James Earl Jones. I gasped. I genuinely did not
Speaker 1: know he was in this movie. It was almost like
Speaker 1: a jump scare.
Speaker 2: I was like, I forgot it this part too. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen this movie and so long I forgot James
Speaker 2: Earl Jones is in this Oh my god, And now
Speaker 2: going back and listening to that other scene where he's
Speaker 2: talking to him.
Speaker 1: It is James Jones one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's like almost making it even like deeper
Speaker 2: than he normally does.
Speaker 1: And it's slightly digitized too, which disguises a little bit.
Speaker 2: You don't recognize it. It's James Earl Jones right away,
Speaker 2: and it's so so excellent. So okay, So Agent Abbott
Speaker 2: is now there waiting with the team. The sneakers are
Speaker 2: all held at gunpoint. Abbot demands the box, and Marty's like,
Speaker 2: you know Greg, remember Greg, our old Russian friend who
Speaker 2: got murdered at the beginning of the movie. You know,
Speaker 2: he told me something pretty interesting about this box, this
Speaker 2: Yere box. He says, it only works on American codes,
Speaker 2: doesn't work on Russian stuff, doesn't work on foreign governments,
Speaker 2: only really works on our government. So the NSA could
Speaker 2: only have developed and used this box to attempt to
Speaker 2: spy on other Americans. And that's where like, that's where
Speaker 2: he says the line. That's where James Earl Jones says
Speaker 2: the line, we don't spy on our own people.
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha.
Speaker 2: That elicited a big laugh in the crew in the
Speaker 2: room that I was in.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Abbot realizes that Marty has some advantages here, right,
Speaker 1: So he says, look, what do you want? And Marty says, look,
Speaker 1: I want my record cleaned. He says, great, give me
Speaker 1: the box. And then Mother's like, hang on, hang on,
Speaker 1: he wasn't the only person involved in this operation. I
Speaker 1: want to Winnebago and Abbot is shocked, but he's like, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: fine Winnebago for you give me the box. Crease is like,
Speaker 1: hang on, I want a European vacation. I want to
Speaker 1: go to Italy. I want to go to Portugal. I
Speaker 1: want to go to I want to go to Scotland.
Speaker 1: And Marty's like, don't forget Tahiti, and James Earl Jones like,
Speaker 1: Tahiti is not in Europe.
Speaker 2: The way he says it, He's like, Heity's not in
Speaker 2: you can't demand Tahiti as well.
Speaker 1: And Carl says, well, you can send us a geography class.
Speaker 1: Until you do that, he goes to Tahiti. Right, this
Speaker 1: is all so good.
Speaker 2: Everyone is firing on all comic cylinders in this scene.
Speaker 1: Including James Earl Jones.
Speaker 2: Especially James Earl Jones as the exasperated agent who thought
Speaker 2: he had the upper hand.
Speaker 1: Abbot is growing more and more irritated, but he agrees, fine,
Speaker 1: European vacation for Crease. How about you, he asked Carl.
Speaker 1: Carl said that female agent holding the ouzi is she single?
Speaker 1: And then I love this bit. Abbot is like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, absolutely not. The agent steps forward.
Speaker 1: The agent, I don't notice, is crucially wearing a scrunchy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exist universe. They do exist in this universe.
Speaker 1: She's like, did you say that you could ask for
Speaker 1: anything that you wanted and you're asking for my number?
Speaker 1: And Carl's like yes, and she gives him her number,
Speaker 1: which is an actual four to one five number, and
Speaker 1: they said that Apparently they did that because because of
Speaker 1: all the double twists in turns of the movie, they
Speaker 1: were afraid that they did a five to five to
Speaker 1: five number, people would think she was giving him a
Speaker 1: fake number, and they wanted to make it clear that
Speaker 1: she was actually giving him her number. So they they
Speaker 1: purchased this number and it was an ad for the
Speaker 1: for the movie. If you called it, oh cute.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Whistler steps up. He asks for peace on earth and
Speaker 1: goodwill towards men. Abbot steps were the US government, we
Speaker 1: don't do that sort of thing. Excellent, excellent. Still, he
Speaker 1: grudgingly agrees to see what he can do, and then
Speaker 1: he looks at Liz and he says, how about you
Speaker 1: what do you want and she says, oh, I'm fine.
Speaker 1: Marty gives Abbot the box and he tells him, look,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. It never did. And Abbot says, that's
Speaker 1: not important. You just remember that this box doesn't even exist.
Speaker 1: And Marty says, what box? And he says good and
Speaker 1: he leaves.
Speaker 2: So the NSA leaves, and Liz asks what happens when
Speaker 2: the NSA just hooks up the box and finds out
Speaker 2: it does actually work, and then Marty shows her that
Speaker 2: he removed a core component of it and he's like,
Speaker 2: won't work without this piece.
Speaker 1: YEP. Incredible that this movie ends with the city with
Speaker 1: the beat right out of the sound of music. Reverend Mother,
Speaker 1: I have sinned, holds out an engine part. It's just
Speaker 1: the same thing, save the von Traps from the Nazis.
Speaker 2: We smash cut to a local news report announcing that
Speaker 2: the Republican National Committee is suddenly bankrupt.
Speaker 1: I have never gotten erect quicker.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was disinal how fast I became sexually aroused.
Speaker 2: Not only as a Republican National Committee bankrupt, but suddenly
Speaker 2: a bunch of charities have seen a sudden anonymous windfall.
Speaker 2: Amnesty International green Peace, the United Negro College Fund have
Speaker 2: announced record earnings in just the last week.
Speaker 1: YEP.
Speaker 2: End of film.
Speaker 1: End of film, all right, so that is the end.
Speaker 1: We stick around. We're going to play just a few
Speaker 1: more commercials that we'll come back with our random observations
Speaker 1: and final rankings, and we're back Erica. Do you have
Speaker 1: any more little little files, little bits of information that
Speaker 1: are floating through the interwebs. That's how the internet works, right,
Speaker 1: just shoots them through the air, like in Willy Wonka.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, like when when you blow on
Speaker 2: a dandelion and it just flies through the air. That's
Speaker 2: how it works. That's the Internet. Mother played by Nanacroid,
Speaker 2: is a conspiracy theorist of the of the highest degree.
Speaker 2: And so there's a runner in the film that I
Speaker 2: absolutely love where he's spouting his conspiracy theories to Crease
Speaker 2: and Crease is just you wire her an idiot. So
Speaker 2: during the party scene, so this is a party, right,
Speaker 2: Like they're having a party and Mother has like cornered
Speaker 2: Crease's poor wife, like who's probably like she's a normy,
Speaker 2: she's not one of them, she's just she's an architect's
Speaker 2: a normal person. And he's talking about like how colmutilations
Speaker 2: have gone up in the last few years and how
Speaker 2: the government is involved in cow mutilations, and like Crease
Speaker 2: is like, I'm sorry, I have to rescue my wife
Speaker 2: from this conversation, and Mother's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: That's my scintillating party conversation.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Then I mean a full thirty five minutes later in
Speaker 2: the movie, it's just Crease and mother in the car
Speaker 2: and they're being silent. They're watching the game, they're not
Speaker 2: doing anything, and he goes, col mutilations are rough, and
Speaker 2: Chreasus goes, do not right now.
Speaker 1: I was tracking like kind of his his conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: because they're never made much of it's just kind of
Speaker 1: background noise. So like he has like the moon landing
Speaker 1: was faked and sure, like that's that's a common one, right,
Speaker 1: and then he has the CIA caused like the nic
Speaker 1: A Roguan earthquake, which I was like, all right, I
Speaker 1: kind of get that one.
Speaker 2: But when cat debate on that one, which is excellent,
Speaker 2: price like, no, I have to respond, what are you
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 1: When the cattle mutilations came up, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what this is about and I I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna look. I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. All of these are real enough
Speaker 1: that I believe they probably are like actual conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: that were held by randomutles. I don't want to know
Speaker 1: what the cattle mutilation thing is. If you listening, know this,
Speaker 1: do not tell me. Do not email me and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: just FYI, I do not want to know. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. Do not tell me, do not. I'll
Speaker 2: look it up later though, because I'm curious.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of like really funny physical comedy moments that,
Speaker 2: of course we didn't get to because it like there's
Speaker 2: one there at one point in the very beginning of
Speaker 2: the movie, when we're setting up who everyone is and like,
Speaker 2: you know, what they do and who they are, they
Speaker 2: cut to Whistler and someone's like, what's Whistler doing. He goes, oh,
Speaker 2: he's reading, And they cut to Whistler and he's reading
Speaker 2: in braille, and that's how the audience says, oh, he's blind.
Speaker 2: He's reading in braille. And then he closes the thing
Speaker 2: he's reading in braille, and it's a copy of Playboy.
Speaker 1: So here's my question about this, Erica. Is it a
Speaker 1: better blind man reading a Playboy joke than the one
Speaker 1: in menon Tights?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, this is a smarter blind man reading Playboy joke.
Speaker 2: It's a much much smarter one. It's also just so
Speaker 2: it's slightly too stupid for this movie, but it works,
Speaker 2: like it just works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well because it's also like, well, he's genuinely reading
Speaker 1: Playboy for the articles. Then because it's just brail, I mean,
Speaker 1: it could be like nice round.
Speaker 2: Breasts describing it in detail.
Speaker 1: She likes long walks on the beach, and there's also
Speaker 1: a beam shot her beams.
Speaker 2: Just another dumb but hilarious Whistler moment. It's dumb, but
Speaker 2: it fucking works. When Whistler is like driving that carene
Speaker 2: van through the parking lot. At the very end of it,
Speaker 2: Marty's like, Okay, Whistler, I want you to drive for
Speaker 2: five more seconds and then hits and then hit the
Speaker 2: brakes and stop. Got it? Five four three two, And
Speaker 2: then he just hits the wall, just hits the tide
Speaker 2: of the He's like, I think I'll stop here, Okay,
Speaker 2: moving moving.
Speaker 1: On one bit of physical comedy that I loved and
Speaker 1: also just at like a testament to the power of
Speaker 1: like a movie star and the power of like a
Speaker 1: tightly written movie. I knew what this joke was. I
Speaker 1: spotted it coming a mile away, and it was still
Speaker 1: so satisfying because when when Marty goes up to Janic's
Speaker 1: office in the beginning of the movie, there's a keypad
Speaker 1: on the door to get in, and all of all
Speaker 1: the sneakers are like, those are impossible, how are we
Speaker 1: going to get into this, and creases like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: have something you can try, and we cut tomorrow, and
Speaker 1: he goes, uh huh, yeah, uh huh, okay, yeah right,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll try, and then he just kicks in
Speaker 1: the door. Excellent, So satisfying.
Speaker 2: He was so good. A couple of things about Cosmo's
Speaker 2: office tell me you're a villain without telling me you're
Speaker 2: a villain.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Number one, he's got a fish tank. That's never a
Speaker 2: good thing, no, And with a giant fish tank in
Speaker 2: their office and they're up to no good, they're up
Speaker 2: to something. But also, wouldn't that fish tank set off
Speaker 2: the motional detector that they're trying so hard?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: For Robert Redford not because those fish are just so women.
Speaker 2: They're best and they're big. It's like a coy pond. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in there almost and I'm like, that should set off
Speaker 2: the detector.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they if the detector doesn't perceive it
Speaker 1: through the water. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: The other thing I just want to point out about
Speaker 2: Cosmo's office is he has these Magreek type, yes who
Speaker 2: lithographs of faceless men, and I kind of love them,
Speaker 2: Like I actually really like the art office. But then
Speaker 2: like in the lobby of the building, the art is
Speaker 2: like dog skeletons, like dogs who have been X rayed,
Speaker 2: and it's their skeletons, And I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 2: Anyone who walks in there is like toy company huh?
Speaker 1: An evil villain lives here, right, this is a super
Speaker 1: villain's layirer.
Speaker 2: Just so I'm clear, Yeah, what did you think of
Speaker 2: the like tall lithographs?
Speaker 1: Did you like that? I didn't like them, but I
Speaker 1: respected the choice. Like like Cosmo's office is, I just
Speaker 1: called it austere in the recap, like all of the
Speaker 1: all of the furniture in it is like the metal
Speaker 1: furniture you would find like in a park, right, and
Speaker 1: like these lithographs and they're gray on black and there's
Speaker 1: like a wall of like it's so like nineties minimalist beige,
Speaker 1: metallic metallic, like yeah, yeah, And we didn't even discuss
Speaker 1: Ben Ben Kingsley's tiny little ponytail.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, ponytail, A sad little ponytail.
Speaker 1: We mentioned Marty's car briefly. I care about cars less
Speaker 1: than I care about heterosexual couples. Like I genuinely the
Speaker 1: bar is low could not possibly care less about cars.
Speaker 1: That's a cool car. It's like burnt orange almost like
Speaker 1: that that little conver. I mean, look, it looks like
Speaker 1: a death trap. Let's be clear. It looks like you
Speaker 1: get in a fender bender and you are dead. Like
Speaker 1: so I would not want to drive it. But it's
Speaker 1: a cool car. I will say that car.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's a convertible. I don't think we have to
Speaker 2: tell you it's a convertible.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just have one more. And it's my favorite line
Speaker 2: possibly in the movie.
Speaker 1: Okay, funny stupid.
Speaker 2: Joke at the very end when Carl's like, I want
Speaker 2: that lady's phone number and James Earl Jones is like,
Speaker 2: absolutely not. We do not do that, Like, that's disgusting
Speaker 2: that you would even ask. Redford leans in and goes,
Speaker 2: come on, the FBI would have given him twins.
Speaker 1: Excellent. I just want to give this movie props for
Speaker 1: one thing. It takes place in San Francisco almost entirely.
Speaker 1: While there are no major characters of Asian descent, it
Speaker 1: is populated with multiple, like small characters of Asian descent.
Speaker 1: And I know enough that I noticed it. Like the
Speaker 1: little girl playing piano with Liz is Asian, the bank
Speaker 1: teller is Asian. Like, there's a couple instances where they
Speaker 1: clearly made it look at least a little bit like
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Even though I would have loved for them
Speaker 1: to have given an actual role to a character of
Speaker 1: Asian descent, it was enough that I noticed it. And
Speaker 1: they also like like the bank teller who gave in
Speaker 1: the very beginning, who gives Marty the check for his
Speaker 1: job well done when if they broke into the bank,
Speaker 1: is like, oh, so your job is to like break
Speaker 1: into people's buildings so they know how other people could
Speaker 1: break into the buildings. And he's like it's a living
Speaker 1: and she's like not a very good one, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: we gave her a joke, the.
Speaker 2: Shade, and she nails it. She hands him his meager
Speaker 2: little check in the bank and she's like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: don't make a lot of money, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is surprising. I would have thought this was
Speaker 1: this was highly skilled work.
Speaker 2: It's highly skilled work, and they're working for banks. It's
Speaker 2: not like they're working for like public schools. I guess
Speaker 2: they did in Carl's case, but like, like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: would imagine it's a sliding scale and if you're a
Speaker 2: fucking bank, yeah yeah. But anyway, all right, Erica.
Speaker 1: How are we gonna rank sneakers this movie that we
Speaker 1: both love so dearly?
Speaker 2: How about one to ten Ginger quintets genuinely, how many
Speaker 2: times do you see a movie with five gingers in it?
Speaker 1: I can't think of one.
Speaker 2: I question whether that even exists anywhere else in the water.
Speaker 1: I think if you're getting into five gingers in the movie,
Speaker 1: you're getting too fetish films. That's I'm sensing a fetish
Speaker 1: film happening. If that's if that's what's going on. How
Speaker 1: about one to ten heterosexual couples that Paul actually cares
Speaker 1: about due to their atomic chemistry.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Mary McDonald's chemistry with everyone.
Speaker 1: Her dancing, every single one of them.
Speaker 2: Every single one of them like her and dan Ackroyd.
Speaker 2: I believe it. I believe it is. She's chemistry with
Speaker 2: Stephen Tobolowski, for Christ's sake, and she's not even supposed to. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how about one to ten boston Ish accents? He went
Speaker 2: to the same person who taught Jack Nicholson a Boston
Speaker 2: accent for the departed.
Speaker 1: His time in prison was actually at the Boston Conservatory
Speaker 1: of Music. That's that's where he spent his time.
Speaker 2: His time in prison was at the Boston Tea Party.
Speaker 1: He actually had to do community service in Colonial Williamsburg.
Speaker 1: That's where he did his as he did his jail time.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: One to ten black boxes.
Speaker 2: A black box being destroyed by Robert Red.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh huh, just you know what I like about it.
Speaker 2: In the end, he doesn't destroy the black box. He
Speaker 2: goes in, he picks out the best part, plays with
Speaker 2: it a little.
Speaker 1: Bit, puts it back, he leaves it in better shape
Speaker 1: than he found it.
Speaker 2: That's key, crucial. That is crucial. When we say destroyed
Speaker 2: the black box, we mean.
Speaker 1: That rhetorically destroy and rebuild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you want to do is leave it better
Speaker 2: than when you found it. You want to leave it satisfied,
Speaker 2: just just.
Speaker 1: Like we want to leave the earth better than to
Speaker 1: do this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do this one.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to go first or should I
Speaker 1: go first?
Speaker 2: I'll go first on this one.
Speaker 1: Hit me.
Speaker 2: I love this movie, I really do. It has blind spots,
Speaker 2: though the cast is actually fairly diverse, especially for nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety two. You know, you have James Earl Jones, you
Speaker 2: have Sidney Potier, you have a character who's blind, not
Speaker 2: played by an actual blind actor, which would have been lovely,
Speaker 2: But you have a character that's blind, right, but one woman?
Speaker 2: One woman, and she's so underwritten, and like just because
Speaker 2: Mary McDonald is such a fucking icon and goddess, because
Speaker 2: she can make it work. It's not an excuse. And
Speaker 2: there's a lot of characters. That's the thing too. I
Speaker 2: would almost say I would if it was like a
Speaker 2: movie with like four characters, I'd be like, well, okay,
Speaker 2: three men and a woman, But like, there's so many
Speaker 2: other characters. Yeah, And I kind of just wish they'd
Speaker 2: thought it through a little bit more. Maybe given Chris's
Speaker 2: wife something to do, so that like it's organic, it
Speaker 2: makes sense to like, it's not just like, well, we
Speaker 2: should have another woman just to have another woman, like
Speaker 2: his wife can be given a thing to do, and
Speaker 2: like like he Crease doesn't like it. He doesn't like
Speaker 2: that he's getting his family involved. But they need another
Speaker 2: person to just drop something off at some point or
Speaker 2: like to be a distraction, you know, like something like that,
Speaker 2: just to give it a little bit more female presence.
Speaker 2: Gay stuff, there's nothing. I'll let you talk about it
Speaker 2: about that, but I see nothing, even though this takes
Speaker 2: place into Francisco. I'm okay. I guess I'm okay with that, right,
Speaker 2: Like gay people are just famously terrible at computers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your husband's gonna hear this and throw his out there.
Speaker 1: It's fun.
Speaker 2: I don't recall that many movies with Robert Redford and
Speaker 2: Sidney Poitier in them when I was like a teenager, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know that they were working that much at
Speaker 2: this time at this like like and so just to
Speaker 2: put these two like fucking megawatt superstars in a movie together,
Speaker 2: it's like totally worth the price of admission and like,
Speaker 2: it's so good just to see them firing on all
Speaker 2: cylinders at the same time in the same movie. So
Speaker 2: I'm going to dig it a lot for lack of
Speaker 2: female representation and like female roles in the film, but like,
Speaker 2: man do I love this movie and man is it
Speaker 2: a fucking great movie? So yeah, I'm gonna give it
Speaker 2: a seven out of ten black boxes. Yeah how about you, Paul?
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, No, I agree with what you're saying. I
Speaker 1: will say I don't even know if this would have
Speaker 1: occurred to me if the NET hadn't been such an
Speaker 1: ally like two weeks ago, where the NET was so
Speaker 1: clearly wearing its politics about like the AIDS crisis and
Speaker 1: everything on its sleeve. I was kind of waiting for
Speaker 1: them to mention like act up or.
Speaker 2: Send the Republicans money to act up as well as as.
Speaker 1: Well as everything. Yet like I was expecting to be
Speaker 1: included in some way there. I want to be really clear,
Speaker 1: I believe that everyone involved in this movie one hundred
Speaker 1: percent agrees with us politically. Believe not everybody, but like
Speaker 1: the people involved in like the storyline and the storytelling
Speaker 1: of it, are on the side of the Angels. Here
Speaker 1: like so, so I'm not trying to like call them
Speaker 1: out or anything. It's not even something that bothered me.
Speaker 1: It was just something I noticed, and I think solely
Speaker 1: because the Net made such a thing about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that really wasn't the zeitgeist. It almost feels like
Speaker 1: they're intentionally not saying it. I'm not saying they are,
Speaker 1: but that's what it felt like in when it echoes
Speaker 1: the net so much in that way.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe they thought it would depress people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Aige crisis specifically, I'm talking about, not like just
Speaker 2: gay people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh gay people, they're bad at computers and they're
Speaker 1: fucking depressing. Let's just let's just be clear.
Speaker 2: But like, that's the one thing I can think of,
Speaker 2: is like, if you're intentionally almost leaving it out, it's
Speaker 2: because the conversation is so heavy.
Speaker 1: I would almost expect it to be like they just
Speaker 1: picked like they have the National Organization for the Legal
Speaker 1: Legalization of Marijuana being mentioned right, like they're I think
Speaker 1: they're trying to do ones that are a little bit funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Black Panthers, the Republicans, like that's obviously the Black
Speaker 1: Panthers are very serious, but it's funny to juxtapose those
Speaker 1: two things. And maybe you're right, like you put an
Speaker 1: act up and like it's just just just too fucking depressing.
Speaker 2: It's too sad that an audience in nineteen ninety two
Speaker 2: would have it would have.
Speaker 1: It would have been tangible to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like that's in the news, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, I want to be clear, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to take any points off the movie for it this movie,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to forgive it almost anything I could ding
Speaker 1: it on, which isn't much, simply because I can so
Speaker 1: clearly see the intentions are so good and I so
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Like I take your point about there only
Speaker 1: being one female character and she's basically underwritten. I think
Speaker 1: basically everybody in this movie is underwritten except for Marty,
Speaker 1: and maybe I think even Cosmo's underwritten. I think I
Speaker 1: think Ben Kingsley is doing a lot of work through
Speaker 1: that accent to like flesh him out, you know, And
Speaker 1: I think like, like if you watch Thedney Poitier when
Speaker 1: you know the end, like his whole thing is like
Speaker 1: I had a temper that was too bad for the CIA.
Speaker 1: You see him a couple of times, you can kind
Speaker 1: of see the temper rising and he almost like yeah,
Speaker 1: he takes it down right. So like it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where like everybody underwritten. So I don't think
Speaker 1: she was underwritten because she was a woman, is all
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: Maybe she was though, because again I'm not even talking
Speaker 2: about like she doesn't need a whole monologue, just what
Speaker 2: does she do? What is her backstory? Like everyone else
Speaker 2: got that and she didn't. I think she's an afterthought.
Speaker 2: I think she's the girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't totally agree with that, Like they
Speaker 1: didn't have to make her a mathematical genius. I get
Speaker 1: that we don't know why she is and doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense, but like.
Speaker 2: Her mathematical genius. She shows up to the lecture, She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is about math. No, she says nothing else.
Speaker 1: No, she says, this is about He does not understand
Speaker 1: the lecture. She tells him what the lecture is about.
Speaker 1: This is about codes, unbreakable codes, and so she does
Speaker 1: understand it, Like there's an actual reason for that.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll give you that. I'll give you that,
Speaker 2: But I it's again, I think she's too underwritten fair enough.
Speaker 1: Other than that, just a great fun, good time at
Speaker 1: the movies, Like, couldn't possibly come up with anything else
Speaker 1: to ding it on. If it was made today, it
Speaker 1: absolutely least one of the main sneakers would have been
Speaker 1: a woman. There would have been more ethnic diversity, although
Speaker 1: there is some. As you said, like there would have
Speaker 1: been even more ethnic diversity in it. I think I
Speaker 1: view this movie as like not perfect, but like moving
Speaker 1: in the right direction, like it's doing, it's doing good things.
Speaker 1: I don't find the Mary McDonald character as underwritten as
Speaker 1: you do, and I agree she's doing an amazing job
Speaker 1: of filling out much like Ben Kingsley. She's bringing. She
Speaker 1: is bringing eighty five percent of all that backstory. You're
Speaker 1: not wrong about that, but like I don't, I don't
Speaker 1: think she has less than most of the other guys do.
Speaker 1: So I'll give it an eight out of ten black boxes,
Speaker 1: ten out of ten enjoyment. I think an eight out
Speaker 1: of ten enjoyment the first time I watched it, a
Speaker 1: ten out of ten enjoyment. The second time I watched it, oh.
Speaker 2: Twenty out of ten enjoyment, twenty out of ten so
Speaker 2: goddamn funny.
Speaker 1: Absolutely will not be offering a palate cleanser.
Speaker 2: No, this is perfect, is I mean? If you want
Speaker 2: like a good caper film with all women Oceans eight, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like would be an amazing double feature almost.
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Speaker 1: Oh lordie, we're hearing from everyone. Buckle up, get your
Speaker 1: late caresses ready. We've got missus White from Clue.
Speaker 2: Is this a flaming, flaming gun in my hand? Who
Speaker 2: put this smoking gun in my hand?
Speaker 1: Well, missus, missus, what you did? You did walk walk
Speaker 1: in with it? So I don't know where you would
Speaker 1: have gotten it.
Speaker 2: All I know is I I heard a shot and
Speaker 2: my my seventh husband, Carl, just died all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: I think it was a heart attack.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's from the from the sound of the gun,
Speaker 1: the sound of the gun start? Did he have a
Speaker 1: weak heart?
Speaker 2: I didn't kill my husband. How dare you insinuate I
Speaker 2: accidentally murdered my husband with the smoking gun.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying now the gun is actually
Speaker 1: on fire? Is that a Is that safe? Should you
Speaker 1: have that in here?
Speaker 2: Is it safe? She's my security blanket. I call her Amber.
Speaker 1: Oh, like an emotional support animal.
Speaker 2: Thank you Amber for helping me through these difficult times.
Speaker 2: How I do adore the Amber?
Speaker 1: Now? Can I ask? Are you allowed to take that
Speaker 1: on a plane? Is there a way to get a
Speaker 1: Is there a way to get a psychiatrist note to
Speaker 1: allow you to take that emotional support pistol on the plane.
Speaker 2: I'm fine, nothing's happened. How dare you insinuate that I
Speaker 2: need a psychiatrist?
Speaker 1: Oh, not that you would need one in your everyday life,
Speaker 1: just simply that you would use one for your own
Speaker 1: personal gain.
Speaker 2: My fifth husband was a psychiatrist. He was absolutely terrible
Speaker 2: at it. Do you know a car ran him over
Speaker 2: four times?
Speaker 1: Four times?
Speaker 2: You'd think someone in tuned with the human nature would
Speaker 2: see that coming.
Speaker 1: Now? Was that? Is that? Backwards? Forwards? Backwards? Forward? Is
Speaker 1: that four times? Or is it?
Speaker 2: How should I know? Just because it was my car?
Speaker 1: Fair? Fair, I guess, I guess that's true. I guess
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 2: If you don't mind now, Amber and I shall be
Speaker 2: taking our leave. Thank you once again, Amber for everything
Speaker 2: you've done for me.
Speaker 1: And why not for that aged Well, she's a lot
Speaker 1: to handle.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't is she? Was she even in here?
Speaker 2: Why does it smell like burning embers?
Speaker 1: She had an actual flaming pistol. The pistol was on fire.
Speaker 2: Interesting, yeah, because she did also ask me earlier where
Speaker 2: you keep your head a key? And I told her
Speaker 2: I hope that's okay. So she's spending the night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's fine, that's fine. Can we can we
Speaker 1: can find a new place for that. In fact, I
Speaker 1: should probably do that quickly, Erica, do you have any
Speaker 1: final thoughts on sneakers?
Speaker 2: Change, change, change, change, chain of fools for five long Yeah?
Speaker 2: I thought you, my man, I'm just dancing like David
Speaker 2: straight Hair?
Speaker 1: Was that a half found that out? I'm just a
Speaker 1: link in your change.
Speaker 2: I hurt my neck. I was throwing neck like David
Speaker 2: straight Hair in this movie, and I threw it out.
Speaker 1: Christopher, even Marco Kidder and Superman. I can't think of
Speaker 1: any other.
Speaker 2: Sarah Paulson and Pedro Pascal honestly, the only other people with.
Speaker 1: This much that is not a straight couple that is
Speaker 1: a is a gay ass couple.
Speaker 2: They're both so gay and went back around chemistry for days. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Im