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Speaker 1: dimensional Realities, where we delve into the stranger aspects of
Speaker 1: our current reality. Now I'm your host, Melissa Lee, and
Speaker 1: tonight our guest, or today, I should say, who knows
Speaker 1: Our guest is doctor Christopher Macklin, who is a highly
Speaker 1: respected UFO expert and energetic healer. Now, doctor Macklin is
Speaker 1: a UFO ex expert and paranormal conduit who shares his
Speaker 1: insights on the paranormal. He's a highly respected ufone ET
Speaker 1: expert who brings several facets to his work, remote viewing,
Speaker 1: spiritual tax arkans, the deep state, et and UFO topics,
Speaker 1: including the star seed et races and how they are
Speaker 1: connected to humanity, positive and negative et races that are
Speaker 1: on our planet, and alien connections. So please welcome doctor
Speaker 1: Christopher Macklin to the program. How are you, doctor.
Speaker 2: Ot so, thanks for having me, bless your heart, so
Speaker 2: great to be here.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so happy that you are here now. I
Speaker 1: was going over your bio and oh my god, there's
Speaker 1: so much to your background. I was just wondering, I
Speaker 1: said a little bit before you came on about you,
Speaker 1: but can you just explain for the audience a little
Speaker 1: bit about who you are and your background and what
Speaker 1: your focus is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually born in the UK. I've always
Speaker 2: been targeted, I think because they know which souls are
Speaker 2: coming through and so you get particularly targeted. And so
Speaker 2: you know, when I was born, two days after I
Speaker 2: had eight strokes. Then we burnt my bat one as
Speaker 2: fall and things kept happening. But when I was four,
Speaker 2: my first interaction with reptilian elements and from the fourth dimension.
Speaker 2: Of course, they can shape shift into this dimension and
Speaker 2: shape shift into human form, of course, but this one
Speaker 2: didn't so and I can. I have the ability to
Speaker 2: see through the veil. So anyway, one night I was
Speaker 2: looking and there's a rep tile in the corner. There's
Speaker 2: a reptile in the corner. He comes from where it's there.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a bad dream, go back to sleep.
Speaker 2: So you know, when I was looking at it, and
Speaker 2: I could. What's interesting is when you get these experiences,
Speaker 2: you can tell they reel because you can feel the
Speaker 2: negative energy in your chest, like, wow, this thing's not good.
Speaker 2: So when he left, I thought, what do I do
Speaker 2: about this age of four? You know, I just out
Speaker 2: the blue, I said, get out of my room. It
Speaker 2: went Oh that worked, you know, so I had the
Speaker 2: power then. Anyway, I went to through school severe DIXLECXI.
Speaker 2: Of course I was in the medial class excellent and mass,
Speaker 2: but terrible English. And of course in England, if you
Speaker 2: can't spell, you in trouble full stop. Never fitted in
Speaker 2: with people, you know, and you know, because I'm very different,
Speaker 2: and I think I was born as a kind of
Speaker 2: star seat type person. I think many star seats really
Speaker 2: struggle with life because you feel alone all the time.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're different, you feel alone. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and you know, and you know,
Speaker 2: people talk behind your back. And I remember when I
Speaker 2: was younger, about a week ago, Mimber twenties, you know
Speaker 2: when people talk about back I took I took it
Speaker 2: so personally I almost threw up. You know, how can
Speaker 2: you do that? And you know? So yeah, anyway, I
Speaker 2: moved on, managed to get something level at school and
Speaker 2: left high school and then I was sponsored to get
Speaker 2: a degree. So I got a degree, and I remember
Speaker 2: my father saying, you're too thick together. Oh, we're going
Speaker 2: to get one of those. You're too thick to get
Speaker 2: a master's. So I've got one of those as well.
Speaker 2: And it was in flight control systems and avionics and
Speaker 2: tax for stuff. So I spent about twenty years in
Speaker 2: software development, embedded software for electronics. And I remember working
Speaker 2: these companies, earned tons of money, and I was looking
Speaker 2: around it. There's got to be more than this, you know,
Speaker 2: is this? It piles of money, but very dissatisfied. Anyway,
Speaker 2: before I go on to the next bit, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you I had a reading in two thousand and the
Speaker 2: lady was about eighty four, and she was just outside
Speaker 2: Liverpool in a place called Berkenhead, a little bit off
Speaker 2: and you know, she's brilliantly okay, So I turned up.
Speaker 2: She's all right, sit down, I'm going to start the reading.
Speaker 2: So you go, okay, thank you, thank you wrote all
Speaker 2: these things down. Well, you're going to get me married, okay. Uh,
Speaker 2: you're going to move to America. Okay, You're going to
Speaker 2: work for god do healings live off the nation. But what.
Speaker 2: I didn't say that to her, obviously it's disrespectful, but
Speaker 2: I was thinking, what are you talking about? You know,
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, here we are. You know. She was
Speaker 2: absolutely right, and you never know the timing anyway. So
Speaker 2: moving on from that, two thousand and seven went completely bankrupt.
Speaker 2: Her marriage fell apart, Everything fell apart, and I was
Speaker 2: kind of living at semi Avakar. I was sponsored to
Speaker 2: go to different places like Belize and India and different places,
Speaker 2: and I started to really focused on the healing. But
Speaker 2: when I went to Belize, it was really interesting. I
Speaker 2: went to a place called Sanna Nashio, and it's got
Speaker 2: a Mayan temple just outside it called chet Antevich fairy
Speaker 2: powerful temple. So I went up there and sat on
Speaker 2: it and it just blewvely wide open. I was getting visions.
Speaker 2: I went back to the hotel room and I said
Speaker 2: to my guides, you know I was born as kids
Speaker 2: that being was five us here. I said, okay, can
Speaker 2: you show me my past or my past lives? And
Speaker 2: I got don't be so stupid, said why, well, it's
Speaker 2: too much data, you know, we find it. So I said,
Speaker 2: how about my past lives? The last four thousand years
Speaker 2: and they showed me. It was like a It was
Speaker 2: literally a three D like television thing in front of me,
Speaker 2: and I was watching it. Wow, this is interesting. And
Speaker 2: from that, you know, I realized I meant to be
Speaker 2: doing the healing. So I started perfecting my healings. But
Speaker 2: one thing that all the listeners, I would really advise them,
Speaker 2: don't use other people's protocols. You find out what your
Speaker 2: own is because you know, if you're born as are
Speaker 2: like a star seed, your star seed family might operate
Speaker 2: in a different way than you know, like the Palladians
Speaker 2: or Victorians, La Marians, aunt Ontarians, so it's very different.
Speaker 2: And the way I did it is I meditated. Now
Speaker 2: these beings aren't It sounds meanless, but they don't just
Speaker 2: open up to you. They want to see if you've
Speaker 2: got stay in power. So I'm meditated. Four hours, nothing happened,
Speaker 2: next day, six hours, nothing happened. Went on for weeks,
Speaker 2: nothing's happening. And so I remember me saying, okay, guys, look,
Speaker 2: you know I'm here to stay, so I don't care
Speaker 2: how long it takes. I'm doing it, and you'll show
Speaker 2: up when you want to do. Anyway about a week later, well,
Speaker 2: everything just broke loose and you know, things changed, all
Speaker 2: sorts of crazy stuff happening. And from that they gave
Speaker 2: me downloads to learn the cause and effect in the body,
Speaker 2: and from that using different energies, using all sorts of
Speaker 2: abilities to be able to heal people from things like cancer, cystefibrosis,
Speaker 2: or Gallon's disease, which is bioweapony, you know, all this
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. And you know, I still learned today.
Speaker 2: Of course, you know, you don't know everything, but but
Speaker 2: I've got a good handle, especially bio weapony, which is really,
Speaker 2: you know, really prevalent right now. So I moved on
Speaker 2: and anyway, got here in twenty ten in America. What
Speaker 2: do they say in the movie Build It, They'll come.
Speaker 2: So I opened the office door and sat there three
Speaker 2: months and nothing's happening, you know, so what's going So
Speaker 2: I said, what's going on? They said, it's within Get
Speaker 2: out there. Oh okay, So anyway I started going. I
Speaker 2: started off at small expos hundred dollars for like a
Speaker 2: table with a few things on it, and I was
Speaker 2: absolutely slammed. The first one I went to, I was
Speaker 2: so busy, it was incredible. And I thought, how did
Speaker 2: they know to come? And it's obviously a god Thing's
Speaker 2: it's about your energy, you know. And I just kept
Speaker 2: moving up and went to bigger expose, bigger expose, and
Speaker 2: now we just I just focus on the healings. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't do any more healings than I'm doing. And
Speaker 2: you know, we offer two healings a week that are
Speaker 2: by donation. You know, so if you have no money,
Speaker 2: you can you can get a healing. Because during my journey,
Speaker 2: I had several times where I didn't have food for
Speaker 2: twenty one days, seven days, and this other thing. So
Speaker 2: I always want to make sure that you know, people
Speaker 2: even if they've got no money, can come on and
Speaker 2: get a healing. So and here we are today. You know,
Speaker 2: I'll go six books. A lot of people ask me, well,
Speaker 2: how the heckt you write six bucks when you got
Speaker 2: severe dislexia. Well, I did try myself, and eventually I
Speaker 2: got a ghostwriter and just dictated it and that seemed
Speaker 2: to have got over the situation. And I still love
Speaker 2: Dick Sexia. I can't stand reading because you know, when
Speaker 2: you read a sentence, you read it, you know that
Speaker 2: does make sense, and so you read it again. Of
Speaker 2: course it makes sense, but you're really focusing on the
Speaker 2: words and not the actual content. So my wife often
Speaker 2: reads things to me and I can just close my
Speaker 2: eyes and absorb it. Well. So, but it's been a
Speaker 2: it's been a crazy journey. I feel as though I've had, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, five lifetimes in this lifetime. It's been insane,
Speaker 2: you know, But but I love it, you know, I
Speaker 2: love being here. I think the behavior on the planet's
Speaker 2: a disgrace, but you know, it's what it is. It's
Speaker 2: hopefully it's going to start turning around. But I do
Speaker 2: love and i'd love the work I do now, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I always encourage people find that absolute burning passion
Speaker 2: within you and step out and do it, and don't
Speaker 2: worry about the money. God's always got your back, you know.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and here we are today. You know, the
Speaker 2: ministry since twenty eleven has taken off, and it's it's
Speaker 2: always been busy.
Speaker 1: So I feel very blessed, fantastic. So you've been also
Speaker 1: involved not only with healing, but dealing with people who
Speaker 1: have had trauma and dealing with different types of et
Speaker 1: entities or even governmental entities. Can you talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's pretty scary stuff, very interesting. I mean,
Speaker 2: the you know, market Wells Project Mockingboard, that was a
Speaker 2: mon top program, mind control. These things are actually, Melissa,
Speaker 2: they're horrific. If you heard them, it will be very
Speaker 2: familiar with both. Yes, yeah, yeah. So it takes a
Speaker 2: while to reprogram because what you have to do is, yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to really do one to one sessions. And
Speaker 2: what you do is go back, you know, to the
Speaker 2: biggest trauma that affected them, and you literally have to
Speaker 2: run through, you know, like a like a movie of it. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go through what happened, and they go through what happened, right,
Speaker 2: let's rewind, right, let's change the outcome, you know, and
Speaker 2: so you run through it again and okay, what do
Speaker 2: you want? The police just turn up before they're going
Speaker 2: to be abused or something, and you know, the people,
Speaker 2: the people who are causing it get arrested and things
Speaker 2: like that. You know, it's it's almost like wisdom beyond forgiveness.
Speaker 2: You know, it's my belief. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: agree with this, but you know, it's my belief that
Speaker 2: the most traumatic things in your life that you've served
Speaker 2: that have given you trauma are the best for growth,
Speaker 2: but it does take a little bit to actually unravel it,
Speaker 2: of course, you know, I mean everyone's got trauma. We
Speaker 2: live in this world. I mean the place is not
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know today, I'll look outside. You
Speaker 2: sure this is the same planet I was bored of
Speaker 2: because it's insane.
Speaker 1: Tell me about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think, And you know, ET the main
Speaker 2: the main thing with ETS is actually the great articular.
Speaker 2: Now what's interesting is that they did this deal with
Speaker 2: obviously Hitler, and they were abducting people in Germany, you know,
Speaker 2: to take their eggs sperm to create humanoids. What they
Speaker 2: didn't realize is that you can't grow a proper human
Speaker 2: being in a pod. It doesn't work wise that because
Speaker 2: you need the god energy of a woman's womb to
Speaker 2: be able to get the soul through. So what they
Speaker 2: were doing is they were creating these light, you know people,
Speaker 2: but they had ai draconian like soul type things. And
Speaker 2: that's why that's where NPC is coming, non player characters
Speaker 2: that they're kind of shut down. There's nothing in there,
Speaker 2: there's no soul in there. So so what they did
Speaker 2: is they started abducting women and basically seeding them, getting
Speaker 2: them pregnant, so they'd abduct them put them back, you know,
Speaker 2: so they didn't there and then suddenly how many people
Speaker 2: have had said, well I thought it was pregnant, and
Speaker 2: suddenly I'm not. You know, what's going on? And what
Speaker 2: they do is they put monitors you know, called implants,
Speaker 2: you know, normally one by the brainstem, one by the womb,
Speaker 2: one by your heart, and so they can tell when
Speaker 2: the soul's in. So once the soul is bonded into
Speaker 2: the fetus, then they can take it out and put
Speaker 2: in the plastic pod. So but you know, obviously it's
Speaker 2: a complete violation. And I sat on the board. I
Speaker 2: actually chair the Attractive Federation with two of them kids
Speaker 2: that beings, And in two thousand, I think it was seventeen,
Speaker 2: I was taken over there. In fact, it was an
Speaker 2: emergency meeting, and I remember normally they give you notice
Speaker 2: and if you could have notice, like okay five minutes,
Speaker 2: would take you out and take you some while. It
Speaker 2: gives you time to lie on the bed because your
Speaker 2: soul's gone. You know, sometimes you go physically, but most
Speaker 2: of the time they take your soul, and we're at
Speaker 2: this meeting and we were discussing the difference stream violation education.
Speaker 2: Now when we volunteered a lot of people have volunteered
Speaker 2: to come at this time. I mean what we were thinking,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, tell me about it.
Speaker 2: My theory is like, God, all right, volunteers, Okay, we'll
Speaker 2: do it. You know, so you go to the bar first,
Speaker 2: you have a few drinks and you're feeling like, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Then they show you a video Planet Earth. Look, this
Speaker 2: is what happens. Oh, don't worry about that. You know,
Speaker 2: when you get down, you think, oh my god, this
Speaker 2: place is the same. I've always joked that when you
Speaker 2: come out the vadgid opening, the iOS's in the corner, well,
Speaker 2: welcome to Other Earth's you invoice and then it goes
Speaker 2: south from that.
Speaker 1: Well, I likeing it. You were mentioning with childbirth. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at the women who go through childbirth, incredible pain, agony,
Speaker 1: and then once it's over with and maybe in a
Speaker 1: year or so they may want another child and go
Speaker 1: through it again, and it's like the soul coming back here.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're on the other side, you're like,
Speaker 1: oh God, yeah, I want to come and experience that again.
Speaker 1: I want to do this, I want to do that.
Speaker 1: And then when we get here and going, what the
Speaker 1: hell was I thinking?
Speaker 2: I always tell people, you know, I God wants volunteers.
Speaker 2: Don't even go to the bar. Who runs to the toilet? Beten,
Speaker 2: you've got diary? He locked the ball, and don't come
Speaker 2: out until the volunteers. Now, I love being here. I
Speaker 2: think the behavior is disgraceful on this planet. I think
Speaker 2: it's it's abysmals. But but I think I think we
Speaker 2: can turn it around. And I think, you know, we're
Speaker 2: all here to help, and you know, the poor people
Speaker 2: who are struggling with what's going on. Of course you
Speaker 2: know they're they're getting PTSD and all sorts of things
Speaker 2: at the moment. So you know, we're doing a lot
Speaker 2: of work just to keep people balanced, and you know,
Speaker 2: by we've got a fast track of being able to
Speaker 2: do emotion releases. Like if you go to psychologist, psychotherapist, psychiatrists,
Speaker 2: you know, you sit there, they'll poke at your one layer,
Speaker 2: you bawl your eyes out or or you know, get anxiety,
Speaker 2: you breathe it out and then you talk about it.
Speaker 2: You transmute it. What the because of that beings do
Speaker 2: is by psychic surgery. What they're doing is they're going in.
Speaker 2: You knows as an EmPATH and I think you're an mpath. Two.
Speaker 2: You know you take things personally. You know you're going
Speaker 2: to ingest I don't know one hundred and fifty thousand layers.
Speaker 2: It's way too much emotion. So what the bick is
Speaker 2: that beings do is they go within, they look for
Speaker 2: your biggest emotion affecting you right now, and they pull
Speaker 2: that energy layer out, then the next biggest, next biggert
Speaker 2: So you can start off with like eighty one, which
Speaker 2: is a lot. You know, if you sit for an
Speaker 2: hour in front of a psychiatrist or psychotherapist, psychology or canceler,
Speaker 2: how many layers are going to do in an hour?
Speaker 2: Maybe six eight. So it's a fast trap method. The
Speaker 2: reason why we can do so many is because once
Speaker 2: you've moved that energy, you get a reaction maybe two
Speaker 2: hours next day of the collective of the residual of
Speaker 2: that emotion, not the full on emotion. So that's why
Speaker 2: we can do so many, and it's really helped a
Speaker 2: lot of people. You know, I feel blessed have found
Speaker 2: these techniques because you know, in this day and age,
Speaker 2: with all the trauma and everything, it's important to try
Speaker 2: and remove it as quickly as possible. So yeah, and
Speaker 2: that goes with the you know, people from you know,
Speaker 2: mind controls, you know, the CIA. It goes from people
Speaker 2: who have been abducted. Because remember one lady, she was,
Speaker 2: you know, a wound was like inflamed, I think, and
Speaker 2: she felt like she'd been raped and the and I said, well,
Speaker 2: you know they've they've taken the fetus out. And you know,
Speaker 2: I was honest with her, but you know, we had
Speaker 2: to remove that trauma. But it makes them strong and say,
Speaker 2: you know what, we're not doing that anymore. We're done
Speaker 2: with it, you know. And and once you know, I
Speaker 2: always encourage people. I'm not anyone's guru. I'm here to
Speaker 2: help them get to that place where you can take
Speaker 2: it power back. And you know that's working on your trauma,
Speaker 2: getting to a place where you don't go reactive anymore,
Speaker 2: you know. And I'm seeing it a lot of stars. People,
Speaker 2: you know, when they're out, they tell the truth. And
Speaker 2: of course you tell the truth to someone who's got
Speaker 2: a lot of trauma. And it's going to trigger them
Speaker 2: and you're going to get a reaction, and you know,
Speaker 2: I think it's important to realize that because they're full
Speaker 2: of trauma. Just love them, Bless them, you know, for
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you can set boundaries where you don't
Speaker 2: want to be bigrated, but still love them, you know,
Speaker 2: don't criticize how they you know, reflect things on me,
Speaker 2: you know, because you know they're full of trauma. Bless them,
Speaker 2: you know, so that's really important.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, definitely. The you mentioned both Project Looking
Speaker 1: Glass Montalk Project. Now, of course those being American programs
Speaker 1: done by the United States government and the CIA, But
Speaker 1: what about other countries, what about the UK? What about
Speaker 1: other European nations or even Russia, China? Do they all
Speaker 1: delve into these programs?
Speaker 2: Yeah, American thing, No, No, they all delve into it.
Speaker 2: I mean, the CIA is not America, and it's just
Speaker 2: a worldwide To me, it's a Satanic organization, you know,
Speaker 2: not all of it. You know, there's some good people
Speaker 2: in the CIA, but I think most of it the
Speaker 2: black ops programs that they do them all over the world,
Speaker 2: you know, and they use the people, you know, like chemtrails,
Speaker 2: look at tem trails, they're you know, they test they're
Speaker 2: spraying is like cockroaches, and it's got Nino tech. It's
Speaker 2: got all sorts of horrible stuff in it. Why are
Speaker 2: they're still spraying. I would have thought it stopped by now,
Speaker 2: but you know, but yeah, there's some black ops things.
Speaker 2: It's so deep and wide that it's all over the world,
Speaker 2: and the mind control is it's it's still going on now.
Speaker 2: You know, people can't tell what the truth is and
Speaker 2: what's not. And that's why I always encourage people, you know,
Speaker 2: always even if even if you're on a podcast, listen
Speaker 2: to something. Whatever you listen to, you know, usually intuition
Speaker 2: like is this nonsense or is it the truth? And
Speaker 2: if if it's truthful up to seventy eight percent, then
Speaker 2: watch it. If not, don't, don't watch it, you know,
Speaker 2: because the CIA support a lot of different people giving misinformation,
Speaker 2: and the Reptilian agenda really is normally they'll give you
Speaker 2: three truths one lie. So for example, you know, if
Speaker 2: you're on a podcast, Oh Melissa, you're yeah, you're a podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right, you know, and you're this that
Speaker 2: and the other, Oh yeah, you're right, and then they'd
Speaker 2: say someone like, well you should be in France and
Speaker 2: buying that house with a pink groof, reddoors and a
Speaker 2: green garage door. You know. Okay, So because they've told
Speaker 2: you light three truths, you think, oh, this fourth one
Speaker 2: must be true. So you'll fly to France. You'll find
Speaker 2: that house because somebody, some crazy person has ran out
Speaker 2: of paint and painted it multi colored and I've got
Speaker 2: the house. You were right, But what they've done is
Speaker 2: actually manipulated it. So yeah, it's very, very difficult. It's
Speaker 2: all about to me, it's all about the truth is
Speaker 2: your intuition, you know completely.
Speaker 1: Well, see, I've always felt that I call it societal
Speaker 1: engineering with project looking class Montalk where I think it
Speaker 1: really started to hit in the early eighties, the seventies,
Speaker 1: early eighties, where they were through the media, mostly through
Speaker 1: education systems. They start changing things, and over that amount
Speaker 1: of time we've had two or three generations, and with
Speaker 1: each generation there's more division. Like what we're seeing right
Speaker 1: now is like the pinnacle of all this engineering of
Speaker 1: splitting people, brainwashing to a certain extent, and making us
Speaker 1: so divided and full of heat and negativity that it's
Speaker 1: easier for them to control us.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, because people when people are you know, and
Speaker 2: of course as your vibration drops, then you get attachments
Speaker 2: like annarchy, you know what sort of touching your anonarchy, Draconians,
Speaker 2: you can get luciferians, you can get archons, all these
Speaker 2: things when they attached to you. People don't realize they're attached,
Speaker 2: but they send your negative thoughts, you know, for your
Speaker 2: spinal column thel you know, if they're sitting in the abdomen,
Speaker 2: they'll drop the vibration the low and testing, so you
Speaker 2: get gurgling and you know, don't digest properly. It affects
Speaker 2: the vibration of liver, so they start getting headaches. Paralyzed,
Speaker 2: affects your adrenal so you get exhausted. So a lot
Speaker 2: of this, you know, diagnosis things are actually attachments sometimes,
Speaker 2: you know. And it also taps in the lower back,
Speaker 2: especially an an arch draconian. So your L four L
Speaker 2: five disc over a period of time with that energy
Speaker 2: will get damaged and it'll start bulging. And that's why
Speaker 2: so many people get L four L five disc issues
Speaker 2: because they've got attachments. And I'd say, i'd say, really
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of people that come to me for healing,
Speaker 2: have got some sort of attachment on the first start,
Speaker 2: and when you get rid of it, all those negative
Speaker 2: thoughts disappear, and then you know, the whole point then
Speaker 2: is to you know, get rid of the trauma, get
Speaker 2: rid of the emotion, and bit by bit the vibrationises
Speaker 2: and once it's way above these beings, they can't even
Speaker 2: get the field because your feel goes out about fifty
Speaker 2: feet or something, you know. So that's that's my job, really,
Speaker 2: trying to help people rid themselves all the emotion and trauma,
Speaker 2: get rid of the PTSD, rebalance the neurochemical balance, so
Speaker 2: that you know, they can feel great. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean in this world do I feel ups amazing?
Speaker 2: I can lie to you and say, yeah, I feel great,
Speaker 2: but I don't, you know, I feel okay, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I feel balanced, and you know I
Speaker 2: was Tom Cline. You feel balanced in this world with
Speaker 2: what's going on now, You're doing ups incredible because a
Speaker 2: lot of people aren't, you know, they're depressed and suicidal
Speaker 2: or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, yeah, it's I use the term for myself.
Speaker 1: I'm not woke, I'm awake because I can see the
Speaker 1: man behind the curtain, I can see all the propaganda
Speaker 1: that's being fed from every side do to affect people
Speaker 1: and get them, you know, under control or manipulate the
Speaker 1: public and make people feel terrible. And I don't buy
Speaker 1: into that anymore. I used to. I used to admit it,
Speaker 1: but I was able to finally pull myself out of
Speaker 1: it and then take that step backwards and just watch
Speaker 1: what's happening and being able to identify when they're trying
Speaker 1: to control this and push into certain directions.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and look at the enslavement, even monitoring and slavey.
Speaker 2: I mean the dollar bill, a pound note. You know,
Speaker 2: it's all a debt note. You know, it's a promise
Speaker 2: to pay note. So you put it in your pocket.
Speaker 2: You're paying interest in terms of taxes, and you think,
Speaker 2: how insane could this will be? You know that, you know, Oh,
Speaker 2: I've got money, but you haven't. You got a ton
Speaker 2: of debt. I have a multipillion there, Yeah not, You're
Speaker 2: in debt by multimillions of dollars, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 2: the whole thing. And I think also obviously because of
Speaker 2: the debt note, I mean, you know, the whole economy
Speaker 2: collapses and the money becomes worth us. I mean, I
Speaker 2: know the dollar bill since I think it was nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four has lost ninety seven percent of his value.
Speaker 2: So you need all those extra notes to buy things.
Speaker 2: So of course everyone has to work, you know. It
Speaker 2: can't be at home with the kids and both. You
Speaker 2: have to work. And it's just a completed slave. I
Speaker 2: think when you step out of that matrix, it's a
Speaker 2: beautiful thing, you know. But but you have to refocus
Speaker 2: your mind on God's got your back, you know, if
Speaker 2: you do your absolute passion. You know, I don't worry
Speaker 2: about accounting. I don't like accounting, don't like counting beans.
Speaker 2: The account does the whole thing, you know. They just
Speaker 2: get on with it. They file the taxes, they do everything.
Speaker 2: And I'd only look at QuickBooks, you know, I just
Speaker 2: I just focus on the healing. The girls in the office.
Speaker 2: You have nine staff girls in the office, do the bookings,
Speaker 2: got done? Are doing pr and the IT guy does
Speaker 2: the it? Can I do it? Yes? Do I want
Speaker 2: to do it? Now? Let me see? No? Well, it
Speaker 2: frustrates it. And to be honest with list, I think
Speaker 2: you know with it. I know how to do it.
Speaker 2: The problem is is that it's gone on since since
Speaker 2: twenty ten, it has moved on. So if you get
Speaker 2: a little problem with your computer, oh it guy could
Speaker 2: come up and solve it straight away because you've seen
Speaker 2: the problem on other computers. While if you do it
Speaker 2: probably digging around for a day or two getting all frustrated.
Speaker 2: What's the point, you know, pay them the money and
Speaker 2: you know, and then he's happy, you feed in his
Speaker 2: family and you're happy because you don't know what the strations. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a big thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the things. One of the topics that I
Speaker 1: was told about that you talk on is Greenland, and
Speaker 1: I know here in the US that's been a topic
Speaker 1: this last year with current administration wanting wanting greenland, which
Speaker 1: will never happen. But what is the importance of greenland
Speaker 1: from your perspective?
Speaker 2: Well, the things about Greenland, you know, kind of harbors
Speaker 2: concentrations of extra threshold bigs and so they're here to help. Now,
Speaker 2: if you look at Antarctica, they're not there to help.
Speaker 2: There trying to enslave the world with the Traconians. Antartica's differently,
Speaker 2: but so the off planet entties, what have you got?
Speaker 2: You've got tall grays are here to help us. Don't
Speaker 2: mix them up with the greyarticular because the rearticulars are
Speaker 2: there because they destroyed their planet. They want to actually
Speaker 2: use us on trying we keep their species alive by
Speaker 2: creating humanoids, you know, in their species. But they've also
Speaker 2: got advanced technology as well, and they have stopped a
Speaker 2: lot of crazy stuff from happening. For example, they'll never
Speaker 2: be a nuclear war on this planet. Why is that
Speaker 2: because after the I think it's nineteen eighty six, the
Speaker 2: Actoians measured the collective consciousness that people do not want,
Speaker 2: you know, a nuclear war. So what's happening is and
Speaker 2: they've almost set one off. Even if they set them off,
Speaker 2: they disabled straight away so that they'll never ever have
Speaker 2: a nuclear war, which which is a good thing. So
Speaker 2: they've really helped us, you know, not destroy our own planet,
Speaker 2: which is which is brilliant. I think so yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I think so what have you got there? You've got
Speaker 2: the Nordics, the tall blonds they call them, which are audits.
Speaker 2: They've been around for many hundreds of thousands of years
Speaker 2: tall grays and between them they do have cities underneath
Speaker 2: and tartic go whether they live and stay and there's
Speaker 2: a lot of technology, for example, stargate technology. You know what,
Speaker 2: stargate technology. In the future, we won't need aircraft because
Speaker 2: you'll just literally have like a frame, you know, waiting
Speaker 2: switched on and you know, if I'm coming to your
Speaker 2: house for you know, for coffee, okay, well listen, give
Speaker 2: me your you know, you dial your location in and
Speaker 2: you know you'll suddenly walk through that frame and come
Speaker 2: out of yours just straight away. That stargate technology. They've
Speaker 2: had that for a long time. I've actually seen a
Speaker 2: little bit of it, not the whole thing, but a
Speaker 2: little bit of it. When I was having a meeting
Speaker 2: once in New York and the Cigar was there. He
Speaker 2: had a briefcase and he said, all right, I'm going
Speaker 2: to read that object from there to there, and he
Speaker 2: did it, you know, and I thought, whoa, okay, but
Speaker 2: he said, I can't show you what's inside the suitcase,
Speaker 2: but this is the technology we have. So you can imagine,
Speaker 2: you know, having that, I could pop back to the
Speaker 2: UK and see the family there, you know, win a second.
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, aircraft are obsosleep. But the
Speaker 2: other thing is obviously anti gravitational. They've had that for
Speaker 2: you know, since the nineteen fifties, and they have craft
Speaker 2: anti gravitational, but will they do flying cars? I guess
Speaker 2: you'd have to have some sort of set navigation system.
Speaker 2: So again direly location. It flies you there itself, because
Speaker 2: otherwise you get all these crazy people bumping into each other.
Speaker 1: So yeah, people can't drive on flat surfaces right now,
Speaker 1: we expect them to be able to fly.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how it is insane that would be.
Speaker 1: Killed on a daily basis When I leave the house,
Speaker 1: it's it's where I live, the intersection, it's it's insane,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I could see how that could be
Speaker 1: very problematic.
Speaker 2: Well, I think also since twenty nineteen. I'm going to
Speaker 2: be careful because you probably putting us on YouTube. But
Speaker 2: with ingesting the nanotechnology, I'm sure everyone knows what I mean.
Speaker 2: What's happening is that people kind of checked out because
Speaker 2: the Crisper technology splices your genetics. So what happens is
Speaker 2: your your light body in your DNA is not compacibly soul,
Speaker 2: so lifts out the body at camarcons. So what's happening
Speaker 2: is when people are driving, they're really not concentrating. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't about where you live. But in Branson here,
Speaker 2: if I'm driving down the road, you know, main road
Speaker 2: and you've got side roads, I slow down because people
Speaker 2: just pull out. They just don't see it. They don't check.
Speaker 2: It's insane, you know, and they're driving has got way worse.
Speaker 2: So that's that's a lot of issues, you know. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is also the amount
Speaker 1: of pressure people are put under. Everyone's in a hurry
Speaker 1: these days. There's more people to deal with, more traffic,
Speaker 1: and of course in everyday life, people are far more
Speaker 1: stressed than they used to be. So people are reckless,
Speaker 1: they're not paying it, they're selfish, and that's most of
Speaker 1: these a lot of these problems. There's no common courtesy.
Speaker 2: Oh no, there isn't. I mean, it's terrible really, you know.
Speaker 2: I remember, I mean, you know, you open a door
Speaker 2: for a lady or whatever, and you know that's all gone,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's kind of horrifying really. But
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened to it, but I hope
Speaker 2: it comes back. I mean, I think I think once
Speaker 2: people realize that you don't have to be on a
Speaker 2: hamster wheel running busy for the sake of being busy.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're not busy, then people feel guilty.
Speaker 2: I mean every Sunday I always have off, so I'm
Speaker 2: always really busy doing absolutely nothing, you know. And it's great.
Speaker 2: You know, you can be horizontal and it's okay to
Speaker 2: let your mind go to decompress. And I think that's
Speaker 2: what people miss, and so they'll get there giving themselves
Speaker 2: anxiety just by running for the sake of running, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's the whole thing about stepping out that matrix,
Speaker 2: that programming and get into a different place where you
Speaker 2: do spend time for yourself because as a human being,
Speaker 2: you deserve it, you know, you really do. And you
Speaker 2: know I was like that when I was in my twenties,
Speaker 2: you know, like say a week ago. So I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I used to, Oh, I've got to do this.
Speaker 2: I used to set myself tasks. I'm not kidding us,
Speaker 2: Like we'und Manchester, for example, I'd have like fifteen things
Speaker 2: to do. Nobody on this planet could do those fifteen
Speaker 2: things in a day, and of course you know I
Speaker 2: do four of them. You know. Oh God, I used
Speaker 2: to shame us of that. Well, it's ridiculous. I couldn't
Speaker 2: do those fifteen things. I've got to do them tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But you know what I've learned is there's always tomorrow
Speaker 2: or even the day after, well even next week. We're okay,
Speaker 2: you know, you don't have to do things in that day,
Speaker 2: you know immediately, And I think when you get rid
Speaker 2: of that anxiety and you start relaxing, it's it's a
Speaker 2: way way better life and you can actually start enjoying
Speaker 2: yourself and enjoying the time with yourself as well. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's really important.
Speaker 1: I make it a point to at least once a
Speaker 1: week get out of where I live, which is in
Speaker 1: the city, and go for a drive in the country.
Speaker 1: That relaxes me so much. Being back out in nature,
Speaker 1: You're not stuck with all of the masses of humanity
Speaker 1: driving around you. You just you can get some peace.
Speaker 1: When this warmer weather finally gets here, you go someplace,
Speaker 1: go by a lake somewhere and just chill out, relax
Speaker 1: and you know, let all that tension everything slide away.
Speaker 1: And more people need to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. Actually, I mean we actually live believe
Speaker 2: it or not. We've got forty acres here around and
Speaker 2: we built our house. The Armish built it in the
Speaker 2: center of the trees. It's like on top of it.
Speaker 2: It's not a mountain, it's not like a hill, but
Speaker 2: it's just beautiful. You got the it's almost like a
Speaker 2: rainforest around you. So you've got so many trees it
Speaker 2: shields you from the outside world. So that's people often
Speaker 2: say how can you work on so many people? It's
Speaker 2: because I feel so relaxed because I don't feel the
Speaker 2: external energy because the trees absorb it. And I think
Speaker 2: that makes a big difference. And like you say, being
Speaker 2: in nature is just insane. It's beautiful, you know, I
Speaker 2: love it. And the other end I remember one day
Speaker 2: it's back two years ago. The other end of the property.
Speaker 2: We've got a huge fire bit and you know, we
Speaker 2: have fires there and we have gatherings, and you're having
Speaker 2: a gathering one day, there's about eight people there and
Speaker 2: this fab being it was literally that tall. It was
Speaker 2: bright green, like neon green. It just started flying over
Speaker 2: and everyone was watching it and then it just flew
Speaker 2: into the trees. Where that's amazing because they don't show
Speaker 2: themselves unless they're unless they're not going to scare you
Speaker 2: in any way. You know, that's one of the universal rules.
Speaker 2: Like you know, I don't know we've ever had people
Speaker 2: turn up like mother Mary or somebody else, have had
Speaker 2: them turn up in the middle of the night, you know.
Speaker 2: Because in twenty twenty four, I was hit by a
Speaker 2: low frequency energy weapon. It melted the costs for heart
Speaker 2: valt together. I was getting really sick, real quick, to
Speaker 2: the point of probably about eight weeks to death, you know.
Speaker 2: So I came one night she said she's one of them,
Speaker 2: because that being she said, do you want to stay her? Go?
Speaker 2: So what sort of question is that? You know? I
Speaker 2: was already asked, and she just literally one in the morning,
Speaker 2: she was there with a big presence and then disappeared.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I had to because my heart's the
Speaker 2: size of the volleyball. I've got eighty four percent. Because
Speaker 2: that DNA the valve is bigger than the ones that
Speaker 2: got on the shelf, they had to do hoping art
Speaker 2: surgery to replace the valve instead of TAVA. So that
Speaker 2: was that was quite a It was October the fourth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, done by one of the factions, you know,
Speaker 2: one of the negative factions.
Speaker 1: So yeah, one of the negative factions. They hit you
Speaker 1: with this weapon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you were kill you. Oh yeah, I've
Speaker 2: had that several times. I actually was dusted. I went,
Speaker 2: I've had it two hundred ninety times. That was the
Speaker 2: two hundred and ninetieth. They dust you with like buy
Speaker 2: a weapon, you know, they can just literally spray something
Speaker 2: on your arm. I was at a conference in Los
Speaker 2: Angeles one day and speaking and I was walking out
Speaker 2: and suddenly I felt this like light missed on. What's that?
Speaker 2: You know, it's slightly wets. Okay, what's that? That said?
Speaker 2: It's a by weapon, get back to you right now.
Speaker 2: So I went back washed it off, but of course
Speaker 2: it's sunk in and I got really sick, temperature really high,
Speaker 2: could hardly breathe. I worked on myself, worked on myself,
Speaker 2: and I was better within that three or four days.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's happened a lot. You know, was.
Speaker 1: Anybody else at this time affected by it? Or was
Speaker 1: it just you were to the target?
Speaker 2: No, it's just me under the target here. And when
Speaker 2: I got back, I worked with a world leading industrial
Speaker 2: toxicologist and Dr Hildy, and she said I wanted to
Speaker 2: do a sample, send me a sample. So we sent
Speaker 2: a sample and they found two malaya which is which
Speaker 2: is from rats. It's a deadly kind of bacterial structure.
Speaker 2: They found solvent that was banned after nineteen sixty because
Speaker 2: it sinks to the skin too well. And they found
Speaker 2: a binding agent, so all those agents were there to
Speaker 2: actually deliver it and then bind it to the cell.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm still here. Well I think hang on
Speaker 2: it said, oh yeah, I'm still here. Kin.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of something a few years ago with uh,
Speaker 1: the alien races? Have they always been here since humanity
Speaker 1: has been here? Did they come later? Were they here
Speaker 1: before us?
Speaker 2: Some have come here to try and take over the planet,
Speaker 2: like the ann Arch The Draconians have been there all
Speaker 2: the time. They live on the vor you know, planet X,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. That's coming around full
Speaker 2: circle again. So there's a lot more with them, and
Speaker 2: they've get they've they've they've connected to also the Lucifeians,
Speaker 2: which is connected the Vatican, you know, in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four hours talking a lot about them. So you imagine
Speaker 2: what faction you know, wanted to take me out. But
Speaker 2: they've all ganged together and the Arcons. If you look
Speaker 2: on Google and look at the ARCon covenent unil. You'll
Speaker 2: see it. The arcons. It's you know, they've got together
Speaker 2: with the the Rockefellers, you know, and they put a
Speaker 2: cosant together, make them sick, make the food sick, you know,
Speaker 2: make them sick as as many ways as possible, and
Speaker 2: feed them pills just to treat the symptom. And of
Speaker 2: course you know we're now the arcons because they have
Speaker 2: no body. They float through the second, third, and fourth dimension.
Speaker 2: What happens is when you sold this income arcons and
Speaker 2: take over your body. That's why a lot of people
Speaker 2: who ingested that you know, nanotechnology at twenty nineteen, when
Speaker 2: they've regested, they kind of become checked out but aggressive
Speaker 2: at the same time. You know, so because you're talking
Speaker 2: to it empty, you're not talking to that person anymore. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was it's been really like whoa you.
Speaker 1: Know, you mentioned a lot of a lot of different
Speaker 1: races in entities, and I'm aware of a couple and
Speaker 1: that's so familiar with the archons myself. I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: a name out at you see if it means anything
Speaker 1: to you. Have you ever heard of a group called
Speaker 1: the agrarians Agians?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, they're around.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me a little bit about them.
Speaker 2: I don't know much about them. I haven't come across
Speaker 2: that much, but I know I know of their existence. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a friend who every once in a blue moon,
Speaker 1: when I'm talking to her, she suddenly steps out and
Speaker 1: somebody else steps in. And this is about I don't know,
Speaker 1: twelve years ago where I was. I was talking with
Speaker 1: her through text, and I noticed that her language and
Speaker 1: sent everything kind of changed. And I know I wasn't
Speaker 1: talking to her anymore. And they called themselves the Agerrians.
Speaker 1: I've tried to do some research to find out more
Speaker 1: about them, but there really isn't a lot of information.
Speaker 2: No, no, No, I've heard them, but I've never already
Speaker 2: to come across them. I mean, I work with work
Speaker 2: the mciuse that beings as Fire of Us here. We
Speaker 2: work very closer with the Aactoians, and you know, we
Speaker 2: do a lot of work with them that actually we're
Speaker 2: doing a very big project on this planet, which is
Speaker 2: off planet pyramids. They're building some off planet pyramids in
Speaker 2: a different dimension. They haven't been doing that for a
Speaker 2: long long time. They're almost ready and they're due to
Speaker 2: be sighted here probably in the next two or three
Speaker 2: years when things settle down, because you know, it's no
Speaker 2: he's bringing them now because they might get destroyed. So
Speaker 2: and the whole point about that is because the lay
Speaker 2: lines have got Satanic structures, you know, to block the
Speaker 2: lay lines, and so what this will do is it
Speaker 2: will because of the powerful energy that they're going to produce,
Speaker 2: it will blow out all the lay lines and get
Speaker 2: the energy moving around the whole planet again. So that's due,
Speaker 2: like I said, probably two to three years. They're almost built,
Speaker 2: and you know, they'll bring them down, switch them in
Speaker 2: time space. They'll just appear one morning. Incredible because more
Speaker 2: than to nine hundred and ninety nine point nine nine
Speaker 2: feet tall. The other one's six hundred and sixty six
Speaker 2: point six six feet tall, and the other one's three
Speaker 2: three three point three three feet tall, So that it'll
Speaker 2: be on the Golden Curve and the biggest one will
Speaker 2: be on the juncture of a lay line, and it's
Speaker 2: going to be somewhere in America. Obviously, can't tell you
Speaker 2: because the Satanic people will biobole a land. So yeah,
Speaker 2: but we're working on that at the moment. It's it's
Speaker 2: quite exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we see how people react to things they don't understand.
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the Georgia guidestones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And there was all this.
Speaker 1: Debate, people claiming, oh it's Illuminati and when they want
Speaker 1: to wipe everybody off the earth, reduce the population and yeah,
Speaker 1: and you could tell me if i'm if you disagree.
Speaker 1: But when I read some of the stuff on there,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad. I think everybody freaked out at
Speaker 1: the first Law, whatever you want to call it, about
Speaker 1: keeping humanity to a limit of five hundred million to
Speaker 1: be in balance with nature.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I see that as something very long term in the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People were so afraid of it. Somebody blew it up
Speaker 1: and destroyed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, the thing is I believe, I
Speaker 2: mean most of the population is MPC's. You know, they've
Speaker 2: been manufactured. I mean, just for interest, Can I just
Speaker 2: bring something up because it's really important? Where is it?
Speaker 2: This is actually really important if I can find it right. Population.
Speaker 2: I've look at this over the last five since the
Speaker 2: fifteen hundreds, because no one ever looks at population. So
Speaker 2: in the fifteen hundreds we add four hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: eight million people. Okay, so the sixteen hundreds, it's gone
Speaker 2: up by about sixty million to five hundred million. That's
Speaker 2: in one hundred years. Okay, sixteen hundred and seventeen hundreds
Speaker 2: gone up by one hundred and ten million, five hundred
Speaker 2: million to six hundred and ten. Then it starts to
Speaker 2: really change seventeen to eighteen hundred. It goes from six
Speaker 2: hundred and ten to one billion, eighteen hundred to nineteen hundred.
Speaker 2: In one hundred years, it's gone up to from one
Speaker 2: billion to one point six billion. You kind of okay,
Speaker 2: you know, how does that happen? Because don't forget you know,
Speaker 2: if you if you take the average of two point
Speaker 2: two kids or three kids per person, but you know,
Speaker 2: in one hundred years the parents are going to die off.
Speaker 2: You're only going to increase by maybe one, maybe two people,
Speaker 2: and that's it. And then nineteen hundred to two thousand,
Speaker 2: you've gone from one point six billion to six point
Speaker 2: one four four billion. You kind of think, okay, that's
Speaker 2: that's un real. Yeah, it's impossible. And then two thousand
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty four eight point seven billion. So these
Speaker 2: figures don't make sense. And you know what I've looked
Speaker 2: at is the MPCs. There's about seventy five percent of
Speaker 2: non player characters that have been you know, hatched in pods.
Speaker 2: They have no proper soul, and you know you can
Speaker 2: tell because you look in the eyes. They're completely checked out.
Speaker 2: And I think in this day and age, you know,
Speaker 2: you can see them better because I think everything's changing.
Speaker 2: You know, the world's becoming more surreal, and I think
Speaker 2: you know, as you get your vibration up, you can
Speaker 2: see things in the light of day. You know, you
Speaker 2: can tell these people because they can't even create a monologue.
Speaker 2: So actual human beings, I think there's only about seven
Speaker 2: hundred million. I don't think there's any more that the
Speaker 2: rest of the NPCs. And also you've got reptilian hybrids
Speaker 2: and all that sort of things. So yeah, so that's
Speaker 2: the thing about the conscious of planet, you know, raising it.
Speaker 2: I think these these MPCs will expire, and I think
Speaker 2: we're going to end up with a lot lot less
Speaker 2: people proper human beings on this planet. So yeah, who knows, which.
Speaker 1: I'll catch flak for saying this, but I don't consider
Speaker 1: that a bad thing, especially if they if they are
Speaker 1: in PCs, like you say, not advocating mass murder. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that if financial selection or somehow we're able
Speaker 1: to get the populations down. Now you get these people,
Speaker 1: the billionaires like Musk or Bill Gates or these people
Speaker 1: who want to keep promoting growth and have more people
Speaker 1: have kids and artificial insemination, and they want to increase
Speaker 1: the population. And would you say that people like that
Speaker 1: are part of that faction that wants to create more MPCs. Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably because you know, I mean they've been crating
Speaker 2: in the millions and billions. You know, they haven't just
Speaker 2: been creating while too since the eighteen hundred. But don't
Speaker 2: forget this technology has been around forever. I mean, the
Speaker 2: history books are all nonsense. You know. We've had Syrian wars,
Speaker 2: who had Martian wars, Atlantis fell, you know, and we've
Speaker 2: been given this technology before, you know, and we failed it.
Speaker 2: You know. Now, I'm hoping that with this transition, if
Speaker 2: you can clean up the world of Satanic influence, you know,
Speaker 2: is it possible? Who knows they're trying, then the world
Speaker 2: would be a much better place. You know. What you
Speaker 2: need is a lot more love, a lot more care,
Speaker 2: a lot more compassion, you know, people, taking care of
Speaker 2: people instead of judging them. I mean, one thing I learned,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm not a Christian. I believe one
Speaker 2: God many paths, but I do abimile of Jesus teachings,
Speaker 2: and the teaching is don't judge people. You know, they've
Speaker 2: got their own life. Just love them, you know, even
Speaker 2: if they breate you or whatever they do. Like my father,
Speaker 2: he's bury me all his life, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I deem as he's kind of a what do you
Speaker 2: want to call them? Krabby all shit, but God bless them.
Speaker 2: You know, he's been my father and I thank him
Speaker 2: for being the way he is, because he's maybe been
Speaker 2: the wordly strong person I am today. Honestly, Melissia. Finally
Speaker 2: had him in my life, I probably would have never
Speaker 2: got to this strength. And I think I did it because, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I'm going to get a degree. You know. Fancy telling
Speaker 2: your son too thick to get a degree. I remember
Speaker 2: him saying it too thick. Together, master's got PhDs as well,
Speaker 2: and all this sort of thing. And here we are,
Speaker 2: you know. But of course you know what was interesting, Well,
Speaker 2: two things interesting about him, which I'll share if you
Speaker 2: don't mind, one is phone out. One day goes, well,
Speaker 2: we've got a climate change problem. Said okay. The BBC
Speaker 2: told me, oh, okay, so what's causing it? Cow's passing wins.
Speaker 2: So I said, so cow's farting is creating global woman.
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah. I said, well we solved in America
Speaker 2: and he goes, what do you do? I said, well
Speaker 2: they created Tom Thum's settle the stomach win gone get
Speaker 2: him over, you know, Oh my god, I'm going to
Speaker 2: write to my MP. But another time he said me up.
Speaker 2: He goes, I've got to tell you someone. What's that?
Speaker 2: I said? I think you're absolutely barking mad. I said, Dad,
Speaker 2: that's the best compliment you've ever given me. He said, well,
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's interesting. I don't take things personally. And
Speaker 2: you know, I love people, you know, I hope you
Speaker 2: can tell but and I love what I do. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't get stressed by anything. People can say the
Speaker 2: worst things to me, and there's nothing I haven't heard before.
Speaker 2: And oh well, I think my favorite saying is oh
Speaker 2: well never mind, you know. So yeah, I just leave it.
Speaker 2: Lead a blissy life. I mean, is it is it?
Speaker 2: Absolutely amazing? No? But to me, it's blissy. I don't
Speaker 2: want for anything, I don't need anything. I'm doing all
Speaker 2: the things I really love doing. And I've got a
Speaker 2: beautiful wife and you know, great kids in England, and
Speaker 2: yeah that's what else you need. You know, you don't
Speaker 2: need billions of dollars. All these billionaires are just not
Speaker 2: happy at all.
Speaker 1: You know, No, no, the material things do not fill
Speaker 1: the holes in people's lives like they think it will.
Speaker 1: It's one thing I agree with you is you know,
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of adversity in my life and
Speaker 1: yet and I've made a lot of very stupid decisions
Speaker 1: in my life. But the one thing I can always
Speaker 1: tell people is that every single bad thing that ever
Speaker 1: happened to me, whether it happened to me or I
Speaker 1: made it happen, always help me grow. I always, I
Speaker 1: would not be the person I am today if I
Speaker 1: didn't make those mistakes, or if I didn't experience those hardships,
Speaker 1: because they built my character. They made me who I
Speaker 1: am today. And you know life isn't over yet. I'm
Speaker 1: sure going to make more mistakes or have other things
Speaker 1: happened to me. But yet they all while they suck
Speaker 1: when they're happening, they're all you know, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Well yeah, character building you want to call it.
Speaker 2: Now, I think I think I think it's I think
Speaker 2: you need those and I think with stacy people, you
Speaker 2: need it to be able to get an inner strength,
Speaker 2: you know, because if you don't get that, and you
Speaker 2: would cost it our poppet, you know, and you know
Speaker 2: you couldn't do anything wrong and your parents costed you
Speaker 2: and everyone else costed you, you wouldn't get that experience.
Speaker 2: But I think with the bagration of the things I've
Speaker 2: put up with in my life and the crazy stuff
Speaker 2: I've done, some stupid stuff, We've all done stupid stuff.
Speaker 2: We live in a third dimensional world, and you know,
Speaker 2: but it's to me, it's all about forgiving yourself, like
Speaker 2: oh well, yeah that was wrong. I'm not doing that again.
Speaker 2: Sorry God. See, I don't believe in karma. I think
Speaker 2: karma comes from within because you know, if you believe
Speaker 2: in God and God's everything everywhere, then you're God being.
Speaker 2: So you do some stupid thing. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: think about God, it's supposed to be unconditional love. So
Speaker 2: if God's on conditional love, you're forgiven before you even
Speaker 2: do anything. So it's not God you need to forgive.
Speaker 2: It's actually you need to forgive yourself for doing it
Speaker 2: to yourself. You know. Yeah, it's it's it's really true.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I remember when I went bankrupt. I
Speaker 2: remember it just first happened. I got to some let
Speaker 2: me borrow an apartment for like four weeks. So I've
Speaker 2: got this apartment. I've got two bags, you know in England,
Speaker 2: the corn tescos here, the corn Walmart bags like grocery bags.
Speaker 2: We'd had a few pantaloons, a few pairs of a
Speaker 2: few things in and I'm sitting there, look at these bags,
Speaker 2: and I've worked for twenty one years, and is this it?
Speaker 2: You know, to show for it? And what's going on?
Speaker 2: They said, it's the right time. What do you mean,
Speaker 2: it's the right time. You know, it's the right time.
Speaker 2: You'll see And by goodness, did I see it. But
Speaker 2: it was a transition that took me, you know a
Speaker 2: little bit to actually process, you know, going bankrupt, you know,
Speaker 2: from having millions of pounds and bent LEAs and two
Speaker 2: different things was quite a And I'm so grateful for
Speaker 2: it because now I don't need stuff anymore, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't care for stuff. I mean, yes, I've got
Speaker 2: a beautiful house, got a car, just a Chevy whatever
Speaker 2: it is, Blazer, and you know, I feel very great.
Speaker 2: Well I've got things. You know, you don't need all
Speaker 2: that stuff. It's just stuff. So it taught me a
Speaker 2: lot about stuff.
Speaker 1: When you talk about star seeds, how does somebody know
Speaker 1: or find out if they are a star seed?
Speaker 2: Well, if you, if you look at your the way
Speaker 2: you the way you operate, I think is a good thing.
Speaker 2: Where you don't really fit in with people. You don't
Speaker 2: like being amongst big crowds. I mean, I can be
Speaker 2: amongst a crowd and I can deliver, like you know,
Speaker 2: if I'm lecturing something to five hundred thousand people, no problem,
Speaker 2: it's just no problem. But I don't like being around
Speaker 2: big crowds when I've let my guard down and I
Speaker 2: just want to relax. We only have a few people.
Speaker 2: You probably won't have many friends because people think you're
Speaker 2: kind of weird. You take things personally a complete endpath.
Speaker 2: So someone talks behind your back or says something to you,
Speaker 2: you know, and get hurt by it. But I think
Speaker 2: the thing is about empathy. Is what you've got to
Speaker 2: do is I think navigate it in terms of having
Speaker 2: boundaries in place. So, yeah, have people close to you
Speaker 2: love you. If people are berating or something, you can
Speaker 2: still love them. But but over there, you know, stay
Speaker 2: over there, not in my inner circle. And I think
Speaker 2: I think that's really important. And you know you Yeah,
Speaker 2: all those sort of things, you know, really make you
Speaker 2: a kind of because you're different and you don't talk
Speaker 2: behind people's back. You just tell them the truth. And
Speaker 2: I'm always truthful to people, you know, And if they
Speaker 2: don't like it, well, don't ought to tell you. It's
Speaker 2: the truth, you know, And I don't puss you follow around.
Speaker 2: But but I think you know, since my I call
Speaker 2: it that couldn't give a shiedometer when that blew up.
Speaker 2: Then you don't care what people think of you. I
Speaker 2: do care about people, of course, but but what they
Speaker 2: think here, you know, you realize that it's their trauma.
Speaker 2: So so don't get involved with it. Leave it to them,
Speaker 2: you know, and love them. Yeah. But also I think
Speaker 2: star seeds you tend to probably because you ingest, because
Speaker 2: you're an EmPATH. You're in just a lot of emotion.
Speaker 2: It's tend to set the new a chemical balance off balance.
Speaker 2: So it can get things like anxiety, PTSD, a d
Speaker 2: D adhd OCD. I mean, I've got OCD. I've got
Speaker 2: eighty four pairs of pantaloons. Man is going, what the
Speaker 2: hell do you boy all those for? I've got this
Speaker 2: thing that I'm always worried that you can't buy things
Speaker 2: in the future, so I just buy the stuff, and she's, well,
Speaker 2: don't get any more from It's kind of you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm comfortable with that. I don't care. You know,
Speaker 2: whatever makes you happy. At least I think I'm a
Speaker 2: loving person, and I think, yeah, if you're a star Seid,
Speaker 2: you'll know it because you're just very different. But it's
Speaker 2: a lonely journey because not many people will engage with you.
Speaker 2: You know. You're not like somebody where they've got like
Speaker 2: loads of friends, twenty five thirty friends you look at
Speaker 2: to have two or three, and I only have two
Speaker 2: or three. You know, I get close to you know,
Speaker 2: we have acquaintances, whiting be amongst them, but kind of
Speaker 2: not for two long.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm the same way. I only have a
Speaker 1: couple of close people, and that's it. I was going
Speaker 1: to ask. We're coming up towards the end here. And
Speaker 1: since we've been talking so much about the e t races. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, have you had any of what you would
Speaker 1: call like a close encounter experience, is seeing craft or
Speaker 1: seeing even the beings other than the Draconian in your bedroom?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I've seen octoons of contours about Palladians. It's
Speaker 2: interesting that I went to a ranch in Arizona called
Speaker 2: Stardust Runch and the guy there you had have started
Speaker 2: John John Edmunds.
Speaker 1: He was a friend of mine before he died. Bless
Speaker 1: an invitation to go there and investigate, but things didn't
Speaker 1: work out and he passed away before that could happen.
Speaker 2: Very well, Yeah, I went to the weekend with him,
Speaker 2: and you know what was happening as the grays were
Speaker 2: coming through a portal and you know, would eat his horses,
Speaker 2: like one of his horse was dismembered, and it was
Speaker 2: obviously a sanctuary. So I went up there for the weekend.
Speaker 2: He said can you help? And I said yeah. So
Speaker 2: I spent the weekend there and I managed to get
Speaker 2: the portal oad. Now John always said the portal opens
Speaker 2: at ground level and they come out of that. So
Speaker 2: what was interesting as soon as the portal opened, the
Speaker 2: Actorians came and John was like, I like taking pictures.
Speaker 2: There was three craft and they were going behind each
Speaker 2: other and then going to three and they were just floating.
Speaker 2: So I was talking to them. I said, I said,
Speaker 2: who are you? They said are we Optorians? Will keeping
Speaker 2: an eye on you. And I said, so why do
Speaker 2: you come in? Make sure you don't do something stupid?
Speaker 2: You know? I said, well, okay, because you know, if
Speaker 2: they left the portal ground level, I would have walked
Speaker 2: through it. And that's just me. So anyway, it was
Speaker 2: about three hundred feet up. We were watching it and
Speaker 2: stuff was coming out of it. So I figured it
Speaker 2: out and I managed to shut it down. It took me,
Speaker 2: you know, about forty to fifty minutes, and he didn't
Speaker 2: have any abs again, but yeah, he was a good guy. John.
Speaker 2: And what's his wife's name?
Speaker 1: Forget I forget. I know that the ranch sold after
Speaker 1: he passed. She let it go, and let's just say
Speaker 1: that never been able to find out who bought it,
Speaker 1: which seems a little shady. I personally think the government
Speaker 1: military somebody got ahold of it. Big Aelo John always
Speaker 1: said Big Oelo was trying to buy the ranch from him,
Speaker 1: but he always was low balling him. So John told
Speaker 1: him the stuff.
Speaker 2: It Yeah, yeah, bless him. Yeah, it was great with John. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think is it Jones his wife? No, No, it's not. Oh, Blessed,
Speaker 2: I've forgotten. Anyway, we'll figure it out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: John was a great guy. I mean, I've never really
Speaker 1: seen much in my life. I've had two experiences, but
Speaker 1: I cannot dismiss if they werenes or not. About eight
Speaker 1: years ago, I saw a string of orange globes flying
Speaker 1: from west to east, just at dusk, and they were
Speaker 1: flying in a line, but it was a very loose formation.
Speaker 1: Some were going ahead of each other or whatnot. I
Speaker 1: figured if it was like a program drones, they would
Speaker 1: stay more in formation like they do light shows. They
Speaker 1: were only about three hundred feet off the ground, maybe
Speaker 1: about three or four hundred feet away from me. I
Speaker 1: couldn't hear anything. I was stuck in traffic, so I
Speaker 1: couldn't grab my camera and film them, and they just
Speaker 1: went from one horizon to the other. Now there is
Speaker 1: an Arsenal National Guard Arsenal not far away from here,
Speaker 1: and other people who saw it said, oh, it's just
Speaker 1: you know, military drones and I never bought that it
Speaker 1: was solid orange globes, no FFA lighting. And then I
Speaker 1: saw him again once own at the Jersey shore, down
Speaker 1: near the very southern edge by Cape May. I saw
Speaker 1: like six or seven, you know, six or eight pairs
Speaker 1: of them coming up the beach and then they get
Speaker 1: they're about a mile away, They get about a half
Speaker 1: mile towards towards me, and then they go out over
Speaker 1: the ocean, disappeared in the cloud there. But then behind
Speaker 1: them there were two more. And this happened about four
Speaker 1: or five times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can always I think, I think there
Speaker 2: were definitely craft. I don't do the drones. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know when these when these octurners turned up. You know,
Speaker 2: it's interesting because about five minutes after the military helicopters
Speaker 2: they were they were keeping a wide berth, but they
Speaker 2: were flying around them, you know, wondering what the heck
Speaker 2: do we do with these? And they stayed there literally
Speaker 2: for forty minutes. It was open for forty minutes, and
Speaker 2: then when I shut it down, they disappeared and off
Speaker 2: went the helicopters. I mean, I've seen craft, you know,
Speaker 2: all my life, because I can see through the veil
Speaker 2: so you know, I saw the evening at school. I said, Dad,
Speaker 2: there's a craft there. No, it's your imagination, okay. And
Speaker 2: I eventually realized, just don't tell him because he's going
Speaker 2: to probably take it to a psychiatrist and they could
Speaker 2: put you on some still crazy drugs. So if I
Speaker 2: just I'll learn very quickly. Don't say anything. Keep it
Speaker 2: to yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, Christopher, we've come to the end of the show.
Speaker 1: Now where can people find you? If you have a
Speaker 1: website and you said you have books where people can
Speaker 1: find those?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other website. The website is Global Enlightenmentproject dot
Speaker 2: com global and Lightmaproject dot com. And like I said,
Speaker 2: we do those two healings per week by donation. If
Speaker 2: you don't have any money, please come on them. You know.
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Speaker 2: a program that does get good of it. And yeah,
Speaker 2: we have a lot of meditations as well. They're guided meditation,
Speaker 2: things like boosting the immune system. It's my voice that
Speaker 2: invokes them because that being so when you relax in there,
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I blessure hot excellent, Well, Christopher, thank you
Speaker 1: again for coming on this show.
Speaker 2: Having measure.
Speaker 1: Wonderful talking with you, and we'll have to have you
Speaker 1: back on again sometimes because I have a feeling there's
Speaker 1: a lot more we could talk about.
Speaker 2: Oh I could go fore, oh blessure, but listen, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, thank you and you have a good weekend
Speaker 1: coming up here.
Speaker 2: I'm your pleasure, God bless.
Speaker 1: Now, that was a very interesting conversation with doctor Christopher Macklin.
Speaker 1: Definitely go check out his website. And I hope that
Speaker 1: most people were able to keep up with that conversation
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of heavy duty stuff in
Speaker 1: there that I understood, but I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people who may not totally understand some of what
Speaker 1: we were talking about. And next time I'll try to
Speaker 1: make sure we clarify things a little bit more. But anyway,
Speaker 1: he was a great guest and we'd love to have
Speaker 1: him back sometime. So until next week, you all have
Speaker 1: a wonderful week in coming into the weekend, and as usual,
Speaker 1: be good humans and we'll catch you later.