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Hi everyone, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you
happen to be in this particular timeline, Welcome to trans
dimensional Realities, where we delve into the stranger aspects of
our current reality. Now I'm your host, Melissa Lee, and
tonight our guest, or today, I should say, who knows
Our guest is doctor Christopher Macklin, who is a highly
respected UFO expert and energetic healer. Now, doctor Macklin is
a UFO ex expert and paranormal conduit who shares his
insights on the paranormal. He's a highly respected ufone ET
expert who brings several facets to his work, remote viewing,
spiritual tax arkans, the deep state, et and UFO topics,
including the star seed et races and how they are
connected to humanity, positive and negative et races that are
on our planet, and alien connections. So please welcome doctor
Christopher Macklin to the program. How are you, doctor.
Speaker 2: Ot so, thanks for having me, bless your heart, so
great to be here.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so happy that you are here now. I
was going over your bio and oh my god, there's
so much to your background. I was just wondering, I
said a little bit before you came on about you,
but can you just explain for the audience a little
bit about who you are and your background and what
your focus is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually born in the UK. I've always
been targeted, I think because they know which souls are
coming through and so you get particularly targeted. And so
you know, when I was born, two days after I
had eight strokes. Then we burnt my bat one as
fall and things kept happening. But when I was four,
my first interaction with reptilian elements and from the fourth dimension.
Of course, they can shape shift into this dimension and
shape shift into human form, of course, but this one
didn't so and I can. I have the ability to
see through the veil. So anyway, one night I was
looking and there's a rep tile in the corner. There's
a reptile in the corner. He comes from where it's there.
You know, it's a bad dream, go back to sleep.
So you know, when I was looking at it, and
I could. What's interesting is when you get these experiences,
you can tell they reel because you can feel the
negative energy in your chest, like, wow, this thing's not good.
So when he left, I thought, what do I do
about this age of four? You know, I just out
the blue, I said, get out of my room. It
went Oh that worked, you know, so I had the
power then. Anyway, I went to through school severe DIXLECXI.
Of course I was in the medial class excellent and mass,
but terrible English. And of course in England, if you
can't spell, you in trouble full stop. Never fitted in
with people, you know, and you know, because I'm very different,
and I think I was born as a kind of
star seat type person. I think many star seats really
struggle with life because you feel alone all the time.
You know, if you're different, you feel alone. I'm sure
you know what I mean, and you know, and you know,
people talk behind your back. And I remember when I
was younger, about a week ago, Mimber twenties, you know
when people talk about back I took I took it
so personally I almost threw up. You know, how can
you do that? And you know? So yeah, anyway, I
moved on, managed to get something level at school and
left high school and then I was sponsored to get
a degree. So I got a degree, and I remember
my father saying, you're too thick together. Oh, we're going
to get one of those. You're too thick to get
a master's. So I've got one of those as well.
And it was in flight control systems and avionics and
tax for stuff. So I spent about twenty years in
software development, embedded software for electronics. And I remember working
these companies, earned tons of money, and I was looking
around it. There's got to be more than this, you know,
is this? It piles of money, but very dissatisfied. Anyway,
before I go on to the next bit, I'll tell
you I had a reading in two thousand and the
lady was about eighty four, and she was just outside
Liverpool in a place called Berkenhead, a little bit off
and you know, she's brilliantly okay, So I turned up.
She's all right, sit down, I'm going to start the reading.
So you go, okay, thank you, thank you wrote all
these things down. Well, you're going to get me married, okay. Uh,
you're going to move to America. Okay, You're going to
work for god do healings live off the nation. But what.
I didn't say that to her, obviously it's disrespectful, but
I was thinking, what are you talking about? You know,
Oh my goodness, here we are. You know. She was
absolutely right, and you never know the timing anyway. So
moving on from that, two thousand and seven went completely bankrupt.
Her marriage fell apart, Everything fell apart, and I was
kind of living at semi Avakar. I was sponsored to
go to different places like Belize and India and different places,
and I started to really focused on the healing. But
when I went to Belize, it was really interesting. I
went to a place called Sanna Nashio, and it's got
a Mayan temple just outside it called chet Antevich fairy
powerful temple. So I went up there and sat on
it and it just blewvely wide open. I was getting visions.
I went back to the hotel room and I said
to my guides, you know I was born as kids
that being was five us here. I said, okay, can
you show me my past or my past lives? And
I got don't be so stupid, said why, well, it's
too much data, you know, we find it. So I said,
how about my past lives? The last four thousand years
and they showed me. It was like a It was
literally a three D like television thing in front of me,
and I was watching it. Wow, this is interesting. And
from that, you know, I realized I meant to be
doing the healing. So I started perfecting my healings. But
one thing that all the listeners, I would really advise them,
don't use other people's protocols. You find out what your
own is because you know, if you're born as are
like a star seed, your star seed family might operate
in a different way than you know, like the Palladians
or Victorians, La Marians, aunt Ontarians, so it's very different.
And the way I did it is I meditated. Now
these beings aren't It sounds meanless, but they don't just
open up to you. They want to see if you've
got stay in power. So I'm meditated. Four hours, nothing happened,
next day, six hours, nothing happened. Went on for weeks,
nothing's happening. And so I remember me saying, okay, guys, look,
you know I'm here to stay, so I don't care
how long it takes. I'm doing it, and you'll show
up when you want to do. Anyway about a week later, well,
everything just broke loose and you know, things changed, all
sorts of crazy stuff happening. And from that they gave
me downloads to learn the cause and effect in the body,
and from that using different energies, using all sorts of
abilities to be able to heal people from things like cancer, cystefibrosis,
or Gallon's disease, which is bioweapony, you know, all this
sort of stuff. And you know, I still learned today.
Of course, you know, you don't know everything, but but
I've got a good handle, especially bio weapony, which is really,
you know, really prevalent right now. So I moved on
and anyway, got here in twenty ten in America. What
do they say in the movie Build It, They'll come.
So I opened the office door and sat there three
months and nothing's happening, you know, so what's going So
I said, what's going on? They said, it's within Get
out there. Oh okay, So anyway I started going. I
started off at small expos hundred dollars for like a
table with a few things on it, and I was
absolutely slammed. The first one I went to, I was
so busy, it was incredible. And I thought, how did
they know to come? And it's obviously a god Thing's
it's about your energy, you know. And I just kept
moving up and went to bigger expose, bigger expose, and
now we just I just focus on the healings. I mean,
I can't do any more healings than I'm doing. And
you know, we offer two healings a week that are
by donation. You know, so if you have no money,
you can you can get a healing. Because during my journey,
I had several times where I didn't have food for
twenty one days, seven days, and this other thing. So
I always want to make sure that you know, people
even if they've got no money, can come on and
get a healing. So and here we are today. You know,
I'll go six books. A lot of people ask me, well,
how the heckt you write six bucks when you got
severe dislexia. Well, I did try myself, and eventually I
got a ghostwriter and just dictated it and that seemed
to have got over the situation. And I still love
Dick Sexia. I can't stand reading because you know, when
you read a sentence, you read it, you know that
does make sense, and so you read it again. Of
course it makes sense, but you're really focusing on the
words and not the actual content. So my wife often
reads things to me and I can just close my
eyes and absorb it. Well. So, but it's been a
it's been a crazy journey. I feel as though I've had, like,
I don't know, five lifetimes in this lifetime. It's been insane,
you know, But but I love it, you know, I
love being here. I think the behavior on the planet's
a disgrace, but you know, it's what it is. It's
hopefully it's going to start turning around. But I do
love and i'd love the work I do now, you know. Yeah,
So I always encourage people find that absolute burning passion
within you and step out and do it, and don't
worry about the money. God's always got your back, you know.
And yeah, and here we are today. You know, the
ministry since twenty eleven has taken off, and it's it's
always been busy.
Speaker 1: So I feel very blessed, fantastic. So you've been also
involved not only with healing, but dealing with people who
have had trauma and dealing with different types of et
entities or even governmental entities. Can you talk a little
bit about that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's pretty scary stuff, very interesting. I mean,
the you know, market Wells Project Mockingboard, that was a
mon top program, mind control. These things are actually, Melissa,
they're horrific. If you heard them, it will be very
familiar with both. Yes, yeah, yeah. So it takes a
while to reprogram because what you have to do is, yeah,
you have to really do one to one sessions. And
what you do is go back, you know, to the
biggest trauma that affected them, and you literally have to
run through, you know, like a like a movie of it. Okay,
let's go through what happened, and they go through what happened, right,
let's rewind, right, let's change the outcome, you know, and
so you run through it again and okay, what do
you want? The police just turn up before they're going
to be abused or something, and you know, the people,
the people who are causing it get arrested and things
like that. You know, it's it's almost like wisdom beyond forgiveness.
You know, it's my belief. I don't know if you
agree with this, but you know, it's my belief that
the most traumatic things in your life that you've served
that have given you trauma are the best for growth,
but it does take a little bit to actually unravel it,
of course, you know, I mean everyone's got trauma. We
live in this world. I mean the place is not
you know, I don't know today, I'll look outside. You
sure this is the same planet I was bored of
because it's insane.
Speaker 1: Tell me about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think, And you know, ET the main
the main thing with ETS is actually the great articular.
Now what's interesting is that they did this deal with
obviously Hitler, and they were abducting people in Germany, you know,
to take their eggs sperm to create humanoids. What they
didn't realize is that you can't grow a proper human
being in a pod. It doesn't work wise that because
you need the god energy of a woman's womb to
be able to get the soul through. So what they
were doing is they were creating these light, you know people,
but they had ai draconian like soul type things. And
that's why that's where NPC is coming, non player characters
that they're kind of shut down. There's nothing in there,
there's no soul in there. So so what they did
is they started abducting women and basically seeding them, getting
them pregnant, so they'd abduct them put them back, you know,
so they didn't there and then suddenly how many people
have had said, well I thought it was pregnant, and
suddenly I'm not. You know, what's going on? And what
they do is they put monitors you know, called implants,
you know, normally one by the brainstem, one by the womb,
one by your heart, and so they can tell when
the soul's in. So once the soul is bonded into
the fetus, then they can take it out and put
in the plastic pod. So but you know, obviously it's
a complete violation. And I sat on the board. I
actually chair the Attractive Federation with two of them kids
that beings, And in two thousand, I think it was seventeen,
I was taken over there. In fact, it was an
emergency meeting, and I remember normally they give you notice
and if you could have notice, like okay five minutes,
would take you out and take you some while. It
gives you time to lie on the bed because your
soul's gone. You know, sometimes you go physically, but most
of the time they take your soul, and we're at
this meeting and we were discussing the difference stream violation education.
Now when we volunteered a lot of people have volunteered
to come at this time. I mean what we were thinking,
I don't know, but you know, tell me about it.
My theory is like, God, all right, volunteers, Okay, we'll
do it. You know, so you go to the bar first,
you have a few drinks and you're feeling like, oh yeah.
Then they show you a video Planet Earth. Look, this
is what happens. Oh, don't worry about that. You know,
when you get down, you think, oh my god, this
place is the same. I've always joked that when you
come out the vadgid opening, the iOS's in the corner, well,
welcome to Other Earth's you invoice and then it goes
south from that.
Speaker 1: Well, I likeing it. You were mentioning with childbirth. I mean,
look at the women who go through childbirth, incredible pain, agony,
and then once it's over with and maybe in a
year or so they may want another child and go
through it again, and it's like the soul coming back here.
You know, when you're on the other side, you're like,
oh God, yeah, I want to come and experience that again.
I want to do this, I want to do that.
And then when we get here and going, what the
hell was I thinking?
Speaker 2: I always tell people, you know, I God wants volunteers.
Don't even go to the bar. Who runs to the toilet? Beten,
you've got diary? He locked the ball, and don't come
out until the volunteers. Now, I love being here. I
think the behavior is disgraceful on this planet. I think
it's it's abysmals. But but I think I think we
can turn it around. And I think, you know, we're
all here to help, and you know, the poor people
who are struggling with what's going on. Of course you
know they're they're getting PTSD and all sorts of things
at the moment. So you know, we're doing a lot
of work just to keep people balanced, and you know,
by we've got a fast track of being able to
do emotion releases. Like if you go to psychologist, psychotherapist, psychiatrists,
you know, you sit there, they'll poke at your one layer,
you bawl your eyes out or or you know, get anxiety,
you breathe it out and then you talk about it.
You transmute it. What the because of that beings do
is by psychic surgery. What they're doing is they're going in.
You knows as an EmPATH and I think you're an mpath. Two.
You know you take things personally. You know you're going
to ingest I don't know one hundred and fifty thousand layers.
It's way too much emotion. So what the bick is
that beings do is they go within, they look for
your biggest emotion affecting you right now, and they pull
that energy layer out, then the next biggest, next biggert
So you can start off with like eighty one, which
is a lot. You know, if you sit for an
hour in front of a psychiatrist or psychotherapist, psychology or canceler,
how many layers are going to do in an hour?
Maybe six eight. So it's a fast trap method. The
reason why we can do so many is because once
you've moved that energy, you get a reaction maybe two
hours next day of the collective of the residual of
that emotion, not the full on emotion. So that's why
we can do so many, and it's really helped a
lot of people. You know, I feel blessed have found
these techniques because you know, in this day and age,
with all the trauma and everything, it's important to try
and remove it as quickly as possible. So yeah, and
that goes with the you know, people from you know,
mind controls, you know, the CIA. It goes from people
who have been abducted. Because remember one lady, she was,
you know, a wound was like inflamed, I think, and
she felt like she'd been raped and the and I said, well,
you know they've they've taken the fetus out. And you know,
I was honest with her, but you know, we had
to remove that trauma. But it makes them strong and say,
you know what, we're not doing that anymore. We're done
with it, you know. And and once you know, I
always encourage people. I'm not anyone's guru. I'm here to
help them get to that place where you can take
it power back. And you know that's working on your trauma,
getting to a place where you don't go reactive anymore,
you know. And I'm seeing it a lot of stars. People,
you know, when they're out, they tell the truth. And
of course you tell the truth to someone who's got
a lot of trauma. And it's going to trigger them
and you're going to get a reaction, and you know,
I think it's important to realize that because they're full
of trauma. Just love them, Bless them, you know, for
you know, yeah, you can set boundaries where you don't
want to be bigrated, but still love them, you know,
don't criticize how they you know, reflect things on me,
you know, because you know they're full of trauma. Bless them,
you know, so that's really important.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, definitely. The you mentioned both Project Looking
Glass Montalk Project. Now, of course those being American programs
done by the United States government and the CIA, But
what about other countries, what about the UK? What about
other European nations or even Russia, China? Do they all
delve into these programs?
Speaker 2: Yeah, American thing, No, No, they all delve into it.
I mean, the CIA is not America, and it's just
a worldwide To me, it's a Satanic organization, you know,
not all of it. You know, there's some good people
in the CIA, but I think most of it the
black ops programs that they do them all over the world,
you know, and they use the people, you know, like chemtrails,
look at tem trails, they're you know, they test they're
spraying is like cockroaches, and it's got Nino tech. It's
got all sorts of horrible stuff in it. Why are
they're still spraying. I would have thought it stopped by now,
but you know, but yeah, there's some black ops things.
It's so deep and wide that it's all over the world,
and the mind control is it's it's still going on now.
You know, people can't tell what the truth is and
what's not. And that's why I always encourage people, you know,
always even if even if you're on a podcast, listen
to something. Whatever you listen to, you know, usually intuition
like is this nonsense or is it the truth? And
if if it's truthful up to seventy eight percent, then
watch it. If not, don't, don't watch it, you know,
because the CIA support a lot of different people giving misinformation,
and the Reptilian agenda really is normally they'll give you
three truths one lie. So for example, you know, if
you're on a podcast, Oh Melissa, you're yeah, you're a podcast.
Oh yeah, you're right, you know, and you're this that
and the other, Oh yeah, you're right, and then they'd
say someone like, well you should be in France and
buying that house with a pink groof, reddoors and a
green garage door. You know. Okay, So because they've told
you light three truths, you think, oh, this fourth one
must be true. So you'll fly to France. You'll find
that house because somebody, some crazy person has ran out
of paint and painted it multi colored and I've got
the house. You were right, But what they've done is
actually manipulated it. So yeah, it's very, very difficult. It's
all about to me, it's all about the truth is
your intuition, you know completely.
Speaker 1: Well, see, I've always felt that I call it societal
engineering with project looking class Montalk where I think it
really started to hit in the early eighties, the seventies,
early eighties, where they were through the media, mostly through
education systems. They start changing things, and over that amount
of time we've had two or three generations, and with
each generation there's more division. Like what we're seeing right
now is like the pinnacle of all this engineering of
splitting people, brainwashing to a certain extent, and making us
so divided and full of heat and negativity that it's
easier for them to control us.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, because people when people are you know, and
of course as your vibration drops, then you get attachments
like annarchy, you know what sort of touching your anonarchy, Draconians,
you can get luciferians, you can get archons, all these
things when they attached to you. People don't realize they're attached,
but they send your negative thoughts, you know, for your
spinal column thel you know, if they're sitting in the abdomen,
they'll drop the vibration the low and testing, so you
get gurgling and you know, don't digest properly. It affects
the vibration of liver, so they start getting headaches. Paralyzed,
affects your adrenal so you get exhausted. So a lot
of this, you know, diagnosis things are actually attachments sometimes,
you know. And it also taps in the lower back,
especially an an arch draconian. So your L four L
five disc over a period of time with that energy
will get damaged and it'll start bulging. And that's why
so many people get L four L five disc issues
because they've got attachments. And I'd say, i'd say, really
ninety nine percent of people that come to me for healing,
have got some sort of attachment on the first start,
and when you get rid of it, all those negative
thoughts disappear, and then you know, the whole point then
is to you know, get rid of the trauma, get
rid of the emotion, and bit by bit the vibrationises
and once it's way above these beings, they can't even
get the field because your feel goes out about fifty
feet or something, you know. So that's that's my job, really,
trying to help people rid themselves all the emotion and trauma,
get rid of the PTSD, rebalance the neurochemical balance, so
that you know, they can feel great. I mean, you know,
I mean in this world do I feel ups amazing?
I can lie to you and say, yeah, I feel great,
but I don't, you know, I feel okay, you know
what I mean. I feel balanced, and you know I
was Tom Cline. You feel balanced in this world with
what's going on now, You're doing ups incredible because a
lot of people aren't, you know, they're depressed and suicidal
or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, yeah, it's I use the term for myself.
I'm not woke, I'm awake because I can see the
man behind the curtain, I can see all the propaganda
that's being fed from every side do to affect people
and get them, you know, under control or manipulate the
public and make people feel terrible. And I don't buy
into that anymore. I used to. I used to admit it,
but I was able to finally pull myself out of
it and then take that step backwards and just watch
what's happening and being able to identify when they're trying
to control this and push into certain directions.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and look at the enslavement, even monitoring and slavey.
I mean the dollar bill, a pound note. You know,
it's all a debt note. You know, it's a promise
to pay note. So you put it in your pocket.
You're paying interest in terms of taxes, and you think,
how insane could this will be? You know that, you know, Oh,
I've got money, but you haven't. You got a ton
of debt. I have a multipillion there, Yeah not, You're
in debt by multimillions of dollars, you know. So yeah,
the whole thing. And I think also obviously because of
the debt note, I mean, you know, the whole economy
collapses and the money becomes worth us. I mean, I
know the dollar bill since I think it was nineteen
seventy four has lost ninety seven percent of his value.
So you need all those extra notes to buy things.
So of course everyone has to work, you know. It
can't be at home with the kids and both. You
have to work. And it's just a completed slave. I
think when you step out of that matrix, it's a
beautiful thing, you know. But but you have to refocus
your mind on God's got your back, you know, if
you do your absolute passion. You know, I don't worry
about accounting. I don't like accounting, don't like counting beans.
The account does the whole thing, you know. They just
get on with it. They file the taxes, they do everything.
And I'd only look at QuickBooks, you know, I just
I just focus on the healing. The girls in the office.
You have nine staff girls in the office, do the bookings,
got done? Are doing pr and the IT guy does
the it? Can I do it? Yes? Do I want
to do it? Now? Let me see? No? Well, it
frustrates it. And to be honest with list, I think
you know with it. I know how to do it.
The problem is is that it's gone on since since
twenty ten, it has moved on. So if you get
a little problem with your computer, oh it guy could
come up and solve it straight away because you've seen
the problem on other computers. While if you do it
probably digging around for a day or two getting all frustrated.
What's the point, you know, pay them the money and
you know, and then he's happy, you feed in his
family and you're happy because you don't know what the strations. Yeah,
it's a big thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the things. One of the topics that I
was told about that you talk on is Greenland, and
I know here in the US that's been a topic
this last year with current administration wanting wanting greenland, which
will never happen. But what is the importance of greenland
from your perspective?
Speaker 2: Well, the things about Greenland, you know, kind of harbors
concentrations of extra threshold bigs and so they're here to help. Now,
if you look at Antarctica, they're not there to help.
There trying to enslave the world with the Traconians. Antartica's differently,
but so the off planet entties, what have you got?
You've got tall grays are here to help us. Don't
mix them up with the greyarticular because the rearticulars are
there because they destroyed their planet. They want to actually
use us on trying we keep their species alive by
creating humanoids, you know, in their species. But they've also
got advanced technology as well, and they have stopped a
lot of crazy stuff from happening. For example, they'll never
be a nuclear war on this planet. Why is that
because after the I think it's nineteen eighty six, the
Actoians measured the collective consciousness that people do not want,
you know, a nuclear war. So what's happening is and
they've almost set one off. Even if they set them off,
they disabled straight away so that they'll never ever have
a nuclear war, which which is a good thing. So
they've really helped us, you know, not destroy our own planet,
which is which is brilliant. I think so yeah, but yeah,
I think so what have you got there? You've got
the Nordics, the tall blonds they call them, which are audits.
They've been around for many hundreds of thousands of years
tall grays and between them they do have cities underneath
and tartic go whether they live and stay and there's
a lot of technology, for example, stargate technology. You know what,
stargate technology. In the future, we won't need aircraft because
you'll just literally have like a frame, you know, waiting
switched on and you know, if I'm coming to your
house for you know, for coffee, okay, well listen, give
me your you know, you dial your location in and
you know you'll suddenly walk through that frame and come
out of yours just straight away. That stargate technology. They've
had that for a long time. I've actually seen a
little bit of it, not the whole thing, but a
little bit of it. When I was having a meeting
once in New York and the Cigar was there. He
had a briefcase and he said, all right, I'm going
to read that object from there to there, and he
did it, you know, and I thought, whoa, okay, but
he said, I can't show you what's inside the suitcase,
but this is the technology we have. So you can imagine,
you know, having that, I could pop back to the
UK and see the family there, you know, win a second.
So I think, you know, aircraft are obsosleep. But the
other thing is obviously anti gravitational. They've had that for
you know, since the nineteen fifties, and they have craft
anti gravitational, but will they do flying cars? I guess
you'd have to have some sort of set navigation system.
So again direly location. It flies you there itself, because
otherwise you get all these crazy people bumping into each other.
Speaker 1: So yeah, people can't drive on flat surfaces right now,
we expect them to be able to fly.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how it is insane that would be.
Speaker 1: Killed on a daily basis When I leave the house,
it's it's where I live, the intersection, it's it's insane,
and so yeah, I could see how that could be
very problematic.
Speaker 2: Well, I think also since twenty nineteen. I'm going to
be careful because you probably putting us on YouTube. But
with ingesting the nanotechnology, I'm sure everyone knows what I mean.
What's happening is that people kind of checked out because
the Crisper technology splices your genetics. So what happens is
your your light body in your DNA is not compacibly soul,
so lifts out the body at camarcons. So what's happening
is when people are driving, they're really not concentrating. I mean,
I don't about where you live. But in Branson here,
if I'm driving down the road, you know, main road
and you've got side roads, I slow down because people
just pull out. They just don't see it. They don't check.
It's insane, you know, and they're driving has got way worse.
So that's that's a lot of issues, you know. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is also the amount
of pressure people are put under. Everyone's in a hurry
these days. There's more people to deal with, more traffic,
and of course in everyday life, people are far more
stressed than they used to be. So people are reckless,
they're not paying it, they're selfish, and that's most of
these a lot of these problems. There's no common courtesy.
Speaker 2: Oh no, there isn't. I mean, it's terrible really, you know.
I remember, I mean, you know, you open a door
for a lady or whatever, and you know that's all gone,
you know, and it's it's kind of horrifying really. But
I don't know what's happened to it, but I hope
it comes back. I mean, I think I think once
people realize that you don't have to be on a
hamster wheel running busy for the sake of being busy.
You know, if you're not busy, then people feel guilty.
I mean every Sunday I always have off, so I'm
always really busy doing absolutely nothing, you know. And it's great.
You know, you can be horizontal and it's okay to
let your mind go to decompress. And I think that's
what people miss, and so they'll get there giving themselves
anxiety just by running for the sake of running, you know.
And that's the whole thing about stepping out that matrix,
that programming and get into a different place where you
do spend time for yourself because as a human being,
you deserve it, you know, you really do. And you
know I was like that when I was in my twenties,
you know, like say a week ago. So I mean,
you know, I used to, Oh, I've got to do this.
I used to set myself tasks. I'm not kidding us,
Like we'und Manchester, for example, I'd have like fifteen things
to do. Nobody on this planet could do those fifteen
things in a day, and of course you know I
do four of them. You know. Oh God, I used
to shame us of that. Well, it's ridiculous. I couldn't
do those fifteen things. I've got to do them tomorrow.
But you know what I've learned is there's always tomorrow
or even the day after, well even next week. We're okay,
you know, you don't have to do things in that day,
you know immediately, And I think when you get rid
of that anxiety and you start relaxing, it's it's a
way way better life and you can actually start enjoying
yourself and enjoying the time with yourself as well. You know. Yeah,
I think it's really important.
Speaker 1: I make it a point to at least once a
week get out of where I live, which is in
the city, and go for a drive in the country.
That relaxes me so much. Being back out in nature,
You're not stuck with all of the masses of humanity
driving around you. You just you can get some peace.
When this warmer weather finally gets here, you go someplace,
go by a lake somewhere and just chill out, relax
and you know, let all that tension everything slide away.
And more people need to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. Actually, I mean we actually live believe
it or not. We've got forty acres here around and
we built our house. The Armish built it in the
center of the trees. It's like on top of it.
It's not a mountain, it's not like a hill, but
it's just beautiful. You got the it's almost like a
rainforest around you. So you've got so many trees it
shields you from the outside world. So that's people often
say how can you work on so many people? It's
because I feel so relaxed because I don't feel the
external energy because the trees absorb it. And I think
that makes a big difference. And like you say, being
in nature is just insane. It's beautiful, you know, I
love it. And the other end I remember one day
it's back two years ago. The other end of the property.
We've got a huge fire bit and you know, we
have fires there and we have gatherings, and you're having
a gathering one day, there's about eight people there and
this fab being it was literally that tall. It was
bright green, like neon green. It just started flying over
and everyone was watching it and then it just flew
into the trees. Where that's amazing because they don't show
themselves unless they're unless they're not going to scare you
in any way. You know, that's one of the universal rules.
Like you know, I don't know we've ever had people
turn up like mother Mary or somebody else, have had
them turn up in the middle of the night, you know.
Because in twenty twenty four, I was hit by a
low frequency energy weapon. It melted the costs for heart
valt together. I was getting really sick, real quick, to
the point of probably about eight weeks to death, you know.
So I came one night she said she's one of them,
because that being she said, do you want to stay her? Go?
So what sort of question is that? You know? I
was already asked, and she just literally one in the morning,
she was there with a big presence and then disappeared.
And yeah, so I had to because my heart's the
size of the volleyball. I've got eighty four percent. Because
that DNA the valve is bigger than the ones that
got on the shelf, they had to do hoping art
surgery to replace the valve instead of TAVA. So that
was that was quite a It was October the fourth,
twenty twenty four, done by one of the factions, you know,
one of the negative factions.
Speaker 1: So yeah, one of the negative factions. They hit you
with this weapon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you were kill you. Oh yeah, I've
had that several times. I actually was dusted. I went,
I've had it two hundred ninety times. That was the
two hundred and ninetieth. They dust you with like buy
a weapon, you know, they can just literally spray something
on your arm. I was at a conference in Los
Angeles one day and speaking and I was walking out
and suddenly I felt this like light missed on. What's that?
You know, it's slightly wets. Okay, what's that? That said?
It's a by weapon, get back to you right now.
So I went back washed it off, but of course
it's sunk in and I got really sick, temperature really high,
could hardly breathe. I worked on myself, worked on myself,
and I was better within that three or four days.
But yeah, it's happened a lot. You know, was.
Speaker 1: Anybody else at this time affected by it? Or was
it just you were to the target?
Speaker 2: No, it's just me under the target here. And when
I got back, I worked with a world leading industrial
toxicologist and Dr Hildy, and she said I wanted to
do a sample, send me a sample. So we sent
a sample and they found two malaya which is which
is from rats. It's a deadly kind of bacterial structure.
They found solvent that was banned after nineteen sixty because
it sinks to the skin too well. And they found
a binding agent, so all those agents were there to
actually deliver it and then bind it to the cell.
So yeah, I'm still here. Well I think hang on
it said, oh yeah, I'm still here. Kin.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of something a few years ago with uh,
the alien races? Have they always been here since humanity
has been here? Did they come later? Were they here
before us?
Speaker 2: Some have come here to try and take over the planet,
like the ann Arch The Draconians have been there all
the time. They live on the vor you know, planet X,
whatever you want to call it. That's coming around full
circle again. So there's a lot more with them, and
they've get they've they've they've connected to also the Lucifeians,
which is connected the Vatican, you know, in twenty twenty
four hours talking a lot about them. So you imagine
what faction you know, wanted to take me out. But
they've all ganged together and the Arcons. If you look
on Google and look at the ARCon covenent unil. You'll
see it. The arcons. It's you know, they've got together
with the the Rockefellers, you know, and they put a
cosant together, make them sick, make the food sick, you know,
make them sick as as many ways as possible, and
feed them pills just to treat the symptom. And of
course you know we're now the arcons because they have
no body. They float through the second, third, and fourth dimension.
What happens is when you sold this income arcons and
take over your body. That's why a lot of people
who ingested that you know, nanotechnology at twenty nineteen, when
they've regested, they kind of become checked out but aggressive
at the same time. You know, so because you're talking
to it empty, you're not talking to that person anymore. So, yeah,
it was it's been really like whoa you.
Speaker 1: Know, you mentioned a lot of a lot of different
races in entities, and I'm aware of a couple and
that's so familiar with the archons myself. I'm gonna throw
a name out at you see if it means anything
to you. Have you ever heard of a group called
the agrarians Agians?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, they're around.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me a little bit about them.
Speaker 2: I don't know much about them. I haven't come across
that much, but I know I know of their existence. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a friend who every once in a blue moon,
when I'm talking to her, she suddenly steps out and
somebody else steps in. And this is about I don't know,
twelve years ago where I was. I was talking with
her through text, and I noticed that her language and
sent everything kind of changed. And I know I wasn't
talking to her anymore. And they called themselves the Agerrians.
I've tried to do some research to find out more
about them, but there really isn't a lot of information.
Speaker 2: No, no, No, I've heard them, but I've never already
to come across them. I mean, I work with work
the mciuse that beings as Fire of Us here. We
work very closer with the Aactoians, and you know, we
do a lot of work with them that actually we're
doing a very big project on this planet, which is
off planet pyramids. They're building some off planet pyramids in
a different dimension. They haven't been doing that for a
long long time. They're almost ready and they're due to
be sighted here probably in the next two or three
years when things settle down, because you know, it's no
he's bringing them now because they might get destroyed. So
and the whole point about that is because the lay
lines have got Satanic structures, you know, to block the
lay lines, and so what this will do is it
will because of the powerful energy that they're going to produce,
it will blow out all the lay lines and get
the energy moving around the whole planet again. So that's due,
like I said, probably two to three years. They're almost built,
and you know, they'll bring them down, switch them in
time space. They'll just appear one morning. Incredible because more
than to nine hundred and ninety nine point nine nine
feet tall. The other one's six hundred and sixty six
point six six feet tall, and the other one's three
three three point three three feet tall, So that it'll
be on the Golden Curve and the biggest one will
be on the juncture of a lay line, and it's
going to be somewhere in America. Obviously, can't tell you
because the Satanic people will biobole a land. So yeah,
but we're working on that at the moment. It's it's
quite exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we see how people react to things they don't understand.
Are you familiar with the Georgia guidestones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And there was all this.
Speaker 1: Debate, people claiming, oh it's Illuminati and when they want
to wipe everybody off the earth, reduce the population and yeah,
and you could tell me if i'm if you disagree.
But when I read some of the stuff on there,
it wasn't that bad. I think everybody freaked out at
the first Law, whatever you want to call it, about
keeping humanity to a limit of five hundred million to
be in balance with nature.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I see that as something very long term in the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People were so afraid of it. Somebody blew it up
and destroyed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, the thing is I believe, I
mean most of the population is MPC's. You know, they've
been manufactured. I mean, just for interest, Can I just
bring something up because it's really important? Where is it?
This is actually really important if I can find it right. Population.
I've look at this over the last five since the
fifteen hundreds, because no one ever looks at population. So
in the fifteen hundreds we add four hundred and thirty
eight million people. Okay, so the sixteen hundreds, it's gone
up by about sixty million to five hundred million. That's
in one hundred years. Okay, sixteen hundred and seventeen hundreds
gone up by one hundred and ten million, five hundred
million to six hundred and ten. Then it starts to
really change seventeen to eighteen hundred. It goes from six
hundred and ten to one billion, eighteen hundred to nineteen hundred.
In one hundred years, it's gone up to from one
billion to one point six billion. You kind of okay,
you know, how does that happen? Because don't forget you know,
if you if you take the average of two point
two kids or three kids per person, but you know,
in one hundred years the parents are going to die off.
You're only going to increase by maybe one, maybe two people,
and that's it. And then nineteen hundred to two thousand,
you've gone from one point six billion to six point
one four four billion. You kind of think, okay, that's
that's un real. Yeah, it's impossible. And then two thousand
to twenty twenty four eight point seven billion. So these
figures don't make sense. And you know what I've looked
at is the MPCs. There's about seventy five percent of
non player characters that have been you know, hatched in pods.
They have no proper soul, and you know you can
tell because you look in the eyes. They're completely checked out.
And I think in this day and age, you know,
you can see them better because I think everything's changing.
You know, the world's becoming more surreal, and I think
you know, as you get your vibration up, you can
see things in the light of day. You know, you
can tell these people because they can't even create a monologue.
So actual human beings, I think there's only about seven
hundred million. I don't think there's any more that the
rest of the NPCs. And also you've got reptilian hybrids
and all that sort of things. So yeah, so that's
the thing about the conscious of planet, you know, raising it.
I think these these MPCs will expire, and I think
we're going to end up with a lot lot less
people proper human beings on this planet. So yeah, who knows, which.
Speaker 1: I'll catch flak for saying this, but I don't consider
that a bad thing, especially if they if they are
in PCs, like you say, not advocating mass murder. I'm
just saying that if financial selection or somehow we're able
to get the populations down. Now you get these people,
the billionaires like Musk or Bill Gates or these people
who want to keep promoting growth and have more people
have kids and artificial insemination, and they want to increase
the population. And would you say that people like that
are part of that faction that wants to create more MPCs. Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably because you know, I mean they've been crating
in the millions and billions. You know, they haven't just
been creating while too since the eighteen hundred. But don't
forget this technology has been around forever. I mean, the
history books are all nonsense. You know. We've had Syrian wars,
who had Martian wars, Atlantis fell, you know, and we've
been given this technology before, you know, and we failed it.
You know. Now, I'm hoping that with this transition, if
you can clean up the world of Satanic influence, you know,
is it possible? Who knows they're trying, then the world
would be a much better place. You know. What you
need is a lot more love, a lot more care,
a lot more compassion, you know, people, taking care of
people instead of judging them. I mean, one thing I learned,
and you know, I'm not a Christian. I believe one
God many paths, but I do abimile of Jesus teachings,
and the teaching is don't judge people. You know, they've
got their own life. Just love them, you know, even
if they breate you or whatever they do. Like my father,
he's bury me all his life, you know. I mean,
I deem as he's kind of a what do you
want to call them? Krabby all shit, but God bless them.
You know, he's been my father and I thank him
for being the way he is, because he's maybe been
the wordly strong person I am today. Honestly, Melissia. Finally
had him in my life, I probably would have never
got to this strength. And I think I did it because, oh, well,
I'm going to get a degree. You know. Fancy telling
your son too thick to get a degree. I remember
him saying it too thick. Together, master's got PhDs as well,
and all this sort of thing. And here we are,
you know. But of course you know what was interesting, Well,
two things interesting about him, which I'll share if you
don't mind, one is phone out. One day goes, well,
we've got a climate change problem. Said okay. The BBC
told me, oh, okay, so what's causing it? Cow's passing wins.
So I said, so cow's farting is creating global woman.
He goes, yeah. I said, well we solved in America
and he goes, what do you do? I said, well
they created Tom Thum's settle the stomach win gone get
him over, you know, Oh my god, I'm going to
write to my MP. But another time he said me up.
He goes, I've got to tell you someone. What's that?
I said? I think you're absolutely barking mad. I said, Dad,
that's the best compliment you've ever given me. He said, well,
it's yeah, it's interesting. I don't take things personally. And
you know, I love people, you know, I hope you
can tell but and I love what I do. You know,
I don't get stressed by anything. People can say the
worst things to me, and there's nothing I haven't heard before.
And oh well, I think my favorite saying is oh
well never mind, you know. So yeah, I just leave it.
Lead a blissy life. I mean, is it is it?
Absolutely amazing? No? But to me, it's blissy. I don't
want for anything, I don't need anything. I'm doing all
the things I really love doing. And I've got a
beautiful wife and you know, great kids in England, and
yeah that's what else you need. You know, you don't
need billions of dollars. All these billionaires are just not
happy at all.
Speaker 1: You know, No, no, the material things do not fill
the holes in people's lives like they think it will.
It's one thing I agree with you is you know,
I've had a lot of adversity in my life and
yet and I've made a lot of very stupid decisions
in my life. But the one thing I can always
tell people is that every single bad thing that ever
happened to me, whether it happened to me or I
made it happen, always help me grow. I always, I
would not be the person I am today if I
didn't make those mistakes, or if I didn't experience those hardships,
because they built my character. They made me who I
am today. And you know life isn't over yet. I'm
sure going to make more mistakes or have other things
happened to me. But yet they all while they suck
when they're happening, they're all you know, Oh my god,
Well yeah, character building you want to call it.
Speaker 2: Now, I think I think I think it's I think
you need those and I think with stacy people, you
need it to be able to get an inner strength,
you know, because if you don't get that, and you
would cost it our poppet, you know, and you know
you couldn't do anything wrong and your parents costed you
and everyone else costed you, you wouldn't get that experience.
But I think with the bagration of the things I've
put up with in my life and the crazy stuff
I've done, some stupid stuff, We've all done stupid stuff.
We live in a third dimensional world, and you know,
but it's to me, it's all about forgiving yourself, like
oh well, yeah that was wrong. I'm not doing that again.
Sorry God. See, I don't believe in karma. I think
karma comes from within because you know, if you believe
in God and God's everything everywhere, then you're God being.
So you do some stupid thing. I mean, if you
think about God, it's supposed to be unconditional love. So
if God's on conditional love, you're forgiven before you even
do anything. So it's not God you need to forgive.
It's actually you need to forgive yourself for doing it
to yourself. You know. Yeah, it's it's it's really true.
So I mean, I remember when I went bankrupt. I
remember it just first happened. I got to some let
me borrow an apartment for like four weeks. So I've
got this apartment. I've got two bags, you know in England,
the corn tescos here, the corn Walmart bags like grocery bags.
We'd had a few pantaloons, a few pairs of a
few things in and I'm sitting there, look at these bags,
and I've worked for twenty one years, and is this it?
You know, to show for it? And what's going on?
They said, it's the right time. What do you mean,
it's the right time. You know, it's the right time.
You'll see And by goodness, did I see it. But
it was a transition that took me, you know a
little bit to actually process, you know, going bankrupt, you know,
from having millions of pounds and bent LEAs and two
different things was quite a And I'm so grateful for
it because now I don't need stuff anymore, you know,
I don't care for stuff. I mean, yes, I've got
a beautiful house, got a car, just a Chevy whatever
it is, Blazer, and you know, I feel very great.
Well I've got things. You know, you don't need all
that stuff. It's just stuff. So it taught me a
lot about stuff.
Speaker 1: When you talk about star seeds, how does somebody know
or find out if they are a star seed?
Speaker 2: Well, if you, if you look at your the way
you the way you operate, I think is a good thing.
Where you don't really fit in with people. You don't
like being amongst big crowds. I mean, I can be
amongst a crowd and I can deliver, like you know,
if I'm lecturing something to five hundred thousand people, no problem,
it's just no problem. But I don't like being around
big crowds when I've let my guard down and I
just want to relax. We only have a few people.
You probably won't have many friends because people think you're
kind of weird. You take things personally a complete endpath.
So someone talks behind your back or says something to you,
you know, and get hurt by it. But I think
the thing is about empathy. Is what you've got to
do is I think navigate it in terms of having
boundaries in place. So, yeah, have people close to you
love you. If people are berating or something, you can
still love them. But but over there, you know, stay
over there, not in my inner circle. And I think
I think that's really important. And you know you Yeah,
all those sort of things, you know, really make you
a kind of because you're different and you don't talk
behind people's back. You just tell them the truth. And
I'm always truthful to people, you know, And if they
don't like it, well, don't ought to tell you. It's
the truth, you know, And I don't puss you follow around.
But but I think you know, since my I call
it that couldn't give a shiedometer when that blew up.
Then you don't care what people think of you. I
do care about people, of course, but but what they
think here, you know, you realize that it's their trauma.
So so don't get involved with it. Leave it to them,
you know, and love them. Yeah. But also I think
star seeds you tend to probably because you ingest, because
you're an EmPATH. You're in just a lot of emotion.
It's tend to set the new a chemical balance off balance.
So it can get things like anxiety, PTSD, a d
D adhd OCD. I mean, I've got OCD. I've got
eighty four pairs of pantaloons. Man is going, what the
hell do you boy all those for? I've got this
thing that I'm always worried that you can't buy things
in the future, so I just buy the stuff, and she's, well,
don't get any more from It's kind of you know,
and I'm comfortable with that. I don't care. You know,
whatever makes you happy. At least I think I'm a
loving person, and I think, yeah, if you're a star Seid,
you'll know it because you're just very different. But it's
a lonely journey because not many people will engage with you.
You know. You're not like somebody where they've got like
loads of friends, twenty five thirty friends you look at
to have two or three, and I only have two
or three. You know, I get close to you know,
we have acquaintances, whiting be amongst them, but kind of
not for two long.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm the same way. I only have a
couple of close people, and that's it. I was going
to ask. We're coming up towards the end here. And
since we've been talking so much about the e t races. Uh,
you know, have you had any of what you would
call like a close encounter experience, is seeing craft or
seeing even the beings other than the Draconian in your bedroom?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I've seen octoons of contours about Palladians. It's
interesting that I went to a ranch in Arizona called
Stardust Runch and the guy there you had have started
John John Edmunds.
Speaker 1: He was a friend of mine before he died. Bless
an invitation to go there and investigate, but things didn't
work out and he passed away before that could happen.
Speaker 2: Very well, Yeah, I went to the weekend with him,
and you know what was happening as the grays were
coming through a portal and you know, would eat his horses,
like one of his horse was dismembered, and it was
obviously a sanctuary. So I went up there for the weekend.
He said can you help? And I said yeah. So
I spent the weekend there and I managed to get
the portal oad. Now John always said the portal opens
at ground level and they come out of that. So
what was interesting as soon as the portal opened, the
Actorians came and John was like, I like taking pictures.
There was three craft and they were going behind each
other and then going to three and they were just floating.
So I was talking to them. I said, I said,
who are you? They said are we Optorians? Will keeping
an eye on you. And I said, so why do
you come in? Make sure you don't do something stupid?
You know? I said, well, okay, because you know, if
they left the portal ground level, I would have walked
through it. And that's just me. So anyway, it was
about three hundred feet up. We were watching it and
stuff was coming out of it. So I figured it
out and I managed to shut it down. It took me,
you know, about forty to fifty minutes, and he didn't
have any abs again, but yeah, he was a good guy. John.
And what's his wife's name?
Speaker 1: Forget I forget. I know that the ranch sold after
he passed. She let it go, and let's just say
that never been able to find out who bought it,
which seems a little shady. I personally think the government
military somebody got ahold of it. Big Aelo John always
said Big Oelo was trying to buy the ranch from him,
but he always was low balling him. So John told
him the stuff.
Speaker 2: It Yeah, yeah, bless him. Yeah, it was great with John. Yeah,
I think is it Jones his wife? No, No, it's not. Oh, Blessed,
I've forgotten. Anyway, we'll figure it out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: John was a great guy. I mean, I've never really
seen much in my life. I've had two experiences, but
I cannot dismiss if they werenes or not. About eight
years ago, I saw a string of orange globes flying
from west to east, just at dusk, and they were
flying in a line, but it was a very loose formation.
Some were going ahead of each other or whatnot. I
figured if it was like a program drones, they would
stay more in formation like they do light shows. They
were only about three hundred feet off the ground, maybe
about three or four hundred feet away from me. I
couldn't hear anything. I was stuck in traffic, so I
couldn't grab my camera and film them, and they just
went from one horizon to the other. Now there is
an Arsenal National Guard Arsenal not far away from here,
and other people who saw it said, oh, it's just
you know, military drones and I never bought that it
was solid orange globes, no FFA lighting. And then I
saw him again once own at the Jersey shore, down
near the very southern edge by Cape May. I saw
like six or seven, you know, six or eight pairs
of them coming up the beach and then they get
they're about a mile away, They get about a half
mile towards towards me, and then they go out over
the ocean, disappeared in the cloud there. But then behind
them there were two more. And this happened about four
or five times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can always I think, I think there
were definitely craft. I don't do the drones. I mean,
you know when these when these octurners turned up. You know,
it's interesting because about five minutes after the military helicopters
they were they were keeping a wide berth, but they
were flying around them, you know, wondering what the heck
do we do with these? And they stayed there literally
for forty minutes. It was open for forty minutes, and
then when I shut it down, they disappeared and off
went the helicopters. I mean, I've seen craft, you know,
all my life, because I can see through the veil
so you know, I saw the evening at school. I said, Dad,
there's a craft there. No, it's your imagination, okay. And
I eventually realized, just don't tell him because he's going
to probably take it to a psychiatrist and they could
put you on some still crazy drugs. So if I
just I'll learn very quickly. Don't say anything. Keep it
to yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, Christopher, we've come to the end of the show.
Now where can people find you? If you have a
website and you said you have books where people can
find those?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other website. The website is Global Enlightenmentproject dot
com global and Lightmaproject dot com. And like I said,
we do those two healings per week by donation. If
you don't have any money, please come on them. You know.
We did at five pm Central time on Thursday and
eleven named Central time on Saturday. We have on to ones,
we have specialized groups. We also have the protocol to
strip all the nano at your body. That's a thirty
six week program. It strips it out using timeline split
and that's the only way to get it out. I
did write a book on buy a weapon. It's called
It's It's talking about manufactured diseases, you know, the history
truth and manufactured disease, and then it says Hivas asia
orange all manufactured more gallons. And then of course the
new thing that in twenty nineteen has got everything. You know,
it's terrible. So yeah, so you know, if you need
help with that, just let us know. It's a it's
a program that does get good of it. And yeah,
we have a lot of meditations as well. They're guided meditation,
things like boosting the immune system. It's my voice that
invokes them because that being so when you relax in there,
you'll feel them working on don't marry adenoids, tonsils, dimers,
spleen and all that sort of things. So that's really
helped a lot of people as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I blessure hot excellent, Well, Christopher, thank you
again for coming on this show.
Speaker 2: Having measure.
Speaker 1: Wonderful talking with you, and we'll have to have you
back on again sometimes because I have a feeling there's
a lot more we could talk about.
Speaker 2: Oh I could go fore, oh blessure, but listen, thank
you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, thank you and you have a good weekend
coming up here.
Speaker 2: I'm your pleasure, God bless.
Speaker 1: Now, that was a very interesting conversation with doctor Christopher Macklin.
Definitely go check out his website. And I hope that
most people were able to keep up with that conversation
because there was a lot of heavy duty stuff in
there that I understood, but I think there's a lot
of people who may not totally understand some of what
we were talking about. And next time I'll try to
make sure we clarify things a little bit more. But anyway,
he was a great guest and we'd love to have
him back sometime. So until next week, you all have
a wonderful week in coming into the weekend, and as usual,
be good humans and we'll catch you later.