Speaker 1: Calling All Beings.
Speaker 2: Y'all forget it?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 4: Can I get it? Man for calling all beings? Yes,
Speaker 4: welcome everybody. Welcome back to Calling All Beings, True Crime Unsolved.
Speaker 4: I am your host, DJ, and boy, do we have
Speaker 4: an esteemed panel tonight.
Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you about it. And let me
Speaker 2: say before I really get going here, I want to
Speaker 2: say something for me. It really is an honor to
Speaker 2: have been accepted by the Massachusetts Karen Reid community, of
Speaker 2: which all these people represent, and I've got great respect
Speaker 2: for all of them as content creators and persons alike.
Speaker 2: I did go to college in Massachusetts, I was not
Speaker 2: born and raised there, and just the fact that they've
Speaker 2: embraced me and then welcomed me into their group is huge.
Speaker 2: So with that, we're gonna we about to get into
Speaker 2: it with Karen Reid round table number dose or two.
Speaker 2: But dose is how you know Sean was me talking
Speaker 2: down there in Columbia all those years. So without further ado,
Speaker 2: let's get into the first one. So this first, gentleman,
Speaker 2: So when you're feeling down about this topic and you're
Speaker 2: suffering losses as we did the other day with Judge
Speaker 2: Bev's ruling, against basically dismissing those two charges counts one
Speaker 2: and three of the charges against Karen. And you kind
Speaker 2: of are bummed out about that. You look to this
Speaker 2: man right here. You know, it's a group of talenties
Speaker 2: basically that is doing this to her, and it can
Speaker 2: be very very disappointing at times, although as he said today,
Speaker 2: it's expected. There's nothing that he didn't expect. So you
Speaker 2: only need to look at this man for inspiration and
Speaker 2: a renewed sense of purpose in this mission of justice
Speaker 2: for John and Karen. He is none other than the
Speaker 2: may Mark Mesa media.
Speaker 5: All right, thank you, DJ, great to be here, Thank
Speaker 5: you inspiration. Indeed, it's all about pumping people up and
Speaker 5: getting everybody fired up and being fired up and just
Speaker 5: always having passion and being very excited to fight for
Speaker 5: Karen Reid at all casts. DJ, that is for sure, sir.
Speaker 2: Every time I watch you on any one show, not
Speaker 2: only your own show, that is how I feel. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And and so I thank you, And it is a
Speaker 2: pleasure and honor to finally meet you because I'm probably
Speaker 2: I've been waiting a couple of months to meet you,
Speaker 2: so I'm checking out a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's awesome. It's great to be on your show.
Speaker 5: I love your intro and I like the whole alien,
Speaker 5: themy going on and all that, so it's awesome stuff.
Speaker 2: So, yes, we are three years as a group, myself, Nathan, Debb,
Speaker 2: and Courtney. We are three years a UFO big Foot
Speaker 2: and Paranormal show. And we dived into true crime just
Speaker 2: prior and did an investigation that ended about when I
Speaker 2: found out about Karen Reid and just became enamored with
Speaker 2: all of you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, sports en Karen Reid following fanatics, So
Speaker 5: that's how it happens.
Speaker 2: And I'm a sports fanatic and I'm a music fanatic
Speaker 2: as well. So which miss Shorty and I shared some
Speaker 2: some Pearl dam actually some Eddie Vedder the other day.
Speaker 2: All right, so let's go to our next person here.
Speaker 2: So okay, so I'm unfortunately I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: able to intro Lily the True Crime Kangaroo, who is
Speaker 2: a wonderful, wonderful human who contacted me after the last
Speaker 2: roundtable and we had a little one on one talking
Speaker 2: about a collab and I said, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do another roundtable. Why don't you come on and
Speaker 2: then the next thing, you know, she introduced us to
Speaker 2: Miss Shorty, who we're gonna intro here in a second.
Speaker 2: But Lily is not feeling well tonight. I believe she
Speaker 2: is in the chat. You can expect to see her
Speaker 2: on a future episode, either here or on her show
Speaker 2: where we get together in chat. Our next guest I
Speaker 2: noticed joined us in the chat at least once or twice,
Speaker 2: and then after speaking with Lily, she said to me
Speaker 2: that we should have Miss Shorty on, who is a
Speaker 2: celebrated content creator in her own right. Both she and
Speaker 2: Lily have what at least I describe as an encyclopedic
Speaker 2: knowledge of this case. So, without further ado.
Speaker 6: Part of people put no hands together for Australia's Oh
Speaker 6: miss Shorty.
Speaker 5: Hi, as a Shorty, how are you very well?
Speaker 2: Thank you, excellent honor to have you, ma'am, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for being here. Oh yeah, absolutely, man. After
Speaker 2: hearing you know, she knows a lot more about this
Speaker 2: case than I do. I learn every time I listen
Speaker 2: to these folks. Let's see. Okay, So another blessing I
Speaker 2: have we have in the community, uh that has an
Speaker 2: interest to see justice for both Karen Reid and John
Speaker 2: O'Keefe is this next gentleman who is himself a retired
Speaker 2: sergeant from the canon excuse me, Canton Police Department and
Speaker 2: has provided a wealth of information to both myself and
Speaker 2: the community. I feel like I'm honored now to be
Speaker 2: able to call him friend. So party people put you
Speaker 2: for Peter Murphy Pilot, Thank you, welcome Sergeant Murphy.
Speaker 7: Glad to be here with everybody tonight, looking.
Speaker 2: For good to have you brother. All right, So our
Speaker 2: next guest. This is her second time on the round Table,
Speaker 2: and in fact, she alluded to that the other day.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I don't want to put up
Speaker 2: on her asking her to use all her time to
Speaker 2: come back on the show. She's been doing a lot
Speaker 2: of content lately. But I'm glad she's here so with.
Speaker 2: She had a landslide victory in our Coolest Massachusetts Accent
Speaker 2: contest that we had last time, as stated by Attorney
Speaker 2: Mark Beto, so this so she is such a natural
Speaker 2: talent as a content creator. She has this show with
Speaker 2: Dave Colinane, who's in the chat. I hope to get
Speaker 2: to meet Dave at some point. They had been broadcasting
Speaker 2: on on TikTok. And this explains why she's so damn
Speaker 2: polished and so good as a content creator. Uh, and
Speaker 2: she's just gonna she's about to take over this media.
Speaker 6: So party people, put those hands together for Norem.
Speaker 3: All right, my GOODJJ, hands down.
Speaker 8: Are you the best introducer?
Speaker 3: You got me feeling like I'm going into WrestleMania every
Speaker 3: time I speak with you.
Speaker 2: I got an amen for you. Nurse Kim, Amen, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for having me.
Speaker 3: And I wanted to just say, Maza media after all
Speaker 3: this time, Brother Masa, sister Kim is here.
Speaker 5: Let's go, right, let's go, let's do it.
Speaker 2: And we have we have three paisons here right, myself,
Speaker 2: Kim and Masa, Right said Marco, Come on, man Paison
Speaker 2: all right, alright. So last, and certainly not least, this
Speaker 2: gentleman right here, the great white Shark picture Josh chasing
Speaker 2: after that poor woman water skiing, But it's not a woman.
Speaker 2: It's actually Brian Albert out there on the cape and
Speaker 2: he's behind some jet ski and then here comes to
Speaker 2: great what dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun
Speaker 2: d and here and he just keeps coming and Brian
Speaker 2: looking behind him, and he's still there. He's still there,
Speaker 2: and he could go fast, uh, go faster, but he
Speaker 2: sewn is still there. You know, he can't he can't
Speaker 2: get he's accelerating. So with the landslide victory that that
Speaker 2: that Nurse Kim had in coolest Massachusetts accent, we decided
Speaker 2: to bring in a ringer tonight, someone who has an
Speaker 2: amazing Massachusetts accent in his own right to challenge Nurse Kim.
Speaker 2: I mean that that that is part of the reason
Speaker 2: why he's here, not just for breaking news, which he's
Speaker 2: gonna do tonight, because he done blew us away backstage
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes ago with something. Uh, but it's also, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, a guy that has just provided so much
Speaker 2: leadership and has been able to really attack the Mcalberts
Speaker 2: in a way that in some ways only he can.
Speaker 6: So with all that said, put your hands together for
Speaker 6: the FO you know what I'm talking about, the great
Speaker 6: White Shark, the supervisory d Agent, mister Sean mcdona, Can
Speaker 6: I get it?
Speaker 2: Hey man for Sean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, DJ Masa, Miss Shorty, Peter, Nurse Kim and
Speaker 1: the chat most of them we were together today at
Speaker 1: three o'clock. It was a beautiful afternoon. I'm so humbled
Speaker 1: and just taken back by all the support we're getting.
Speaker 1: It's such a great panel. And and dj thank you
Speaker 1: so much for having us all together and being a
Speaker 1: part of this special movement. It's truly a movement, Miss Shaddy,
Speaker 1: Masa Costs, Nurse Kim and Peter. It's just I'm just
Speaker 1: it's it's just amazing, truly is and I know we're
Speaker 1: making a difference and that's all that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: So thank you to all of yous and and the chat.
Speaker 2: Hey one love to everybody in the chat. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much. Hey, thank you so much. Somebody just donated
Speaker 2: like a nineteen ninety nine. It is Kylo Bear, amazing
Speaker 2: group of mofos. Let me get us up there.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Kylo Bear, can I just give
Speaker 1: this guy something? Kylo my first show, right, my first
Speaker 1: show there, Djes gifted three hundred memberships.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, just absolutely.
Speaker 1: The guy's absolutely crowd. But you know I gotta have
Speaker 1: him on the show.
Speaker 2: I have to, So Kylo Bear, thank you so much
Speaker 2: because it is difficult. This is the first couple of
Speaker 2: months that we've ever manetized in the history of our show.
Speaker 2: Sean's doing it now because it does cost money to
Speaker 2: put these things on and to ask people to give
Speaker 2: up their time. And thank you so much. That is
Speaker 2: very nice of you to do that for Sean, and
Speaker 2: we're honored to have you.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Caveman, what's up? Sounded like Bigfoot man and the Pilgrim
Speaker 2: the pilgrim shadow. Thank you so much. Good evening. My
Speaker 2: canine is patrolling the primity for any Albert's armer caves
Speaker 2: that are lurking eyes in the sky. Pause on the ground.
Speaker 8: Fantastic.
Speaker 2: That is awesome. You know, hey, what do we got
Speaker 2: to say? I think Nurse Kim, did you have Chloe
Speaker 2: as your background the other day?
Speaker 8: I did? Today, I have today, I have my my
Speaker 8: famous punch of proctup.
Speaker 2: We do that.
Speaker 8: That's we're keep it YouTube. But yes, I have Chloe.
Speaker 3: She's sometimes she's on the cave, sometimes she's down in
Speaker 3: West Dennis, and other times she's driving.
Speaker 8: She's driving a truck, okay, and she sees a plow coming.
Speaker 1: We don't know.
Speaker 2: But I almost I almost peed in my pants when
Speaker 2: I saw Chloe laying on the beach with a cell phone.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, wait a minute, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna need a viper, like some sort of an adult
Speaker 2: paper after this. It was so funny.
Speaker 3: I know that this is like not appropriate, but whoever
Speaker 3: made that art work? I for some reason, I'd like
Speaker 3: some I'd like them to be in my living room.
Speaker 8: I'm like, I love the Chloe artwork, so please.
Speaker 5: Yeah it's an ai am and yeah, it was awesome
Speaker 5: when I came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because you're I want to say something, Chloe,
Speaker 2: just because you're a disposable we wei pad to the Alberts.
Speaker 2: We love you wherever you are, and I hope you're
Speaker 2: still alive. All right, all right, let's let's let's get
Speaker 2: going with the round table here. Uh, the King MOFO
Speaker 2: is gonna kick it off for us MOFO and Junior mofos.
Speaker 2: And what we're gonna do is we're gonna go in
Speaker 2: a circular pattern. Everybody is going to present a topic,
Speaker 2: a question, or a hypothesis for discussion for the group.
Speaker 2: I would like to exercise conciseness and brevity so that
Speaker 2: we can turn this into an absolute free for all
Speaker 2: after we get through the round table, Like I told
Speaker 2: Sean earlier, it's like we're playing dodgeball against the Mcalberts.
Speaker 2: So just picture that, okay, and and Sean wants to
Speaker 2: go up and just being Brian in the head when
Speaker 2: he runs close to the line to grab that ball
Speaker 2: that's about to go over, and just playing, you know,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you know. So all right,
Speaker 2: So with that, let's get going, and then we'll get
Speaker 2: to everybody that's in the chat. We'll do a round
Speaker 2: table portion that's fairly structured, absolute free for all, followed
Speaker 2: by questions from you and the chat. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much everybody for the blessings. Okay, Sean, without further ado,
Speaker 2: go ahead, sir.
Speaker 1: Okay. So mine is going to be a hypothetical situation. Okay, PD,
Speaker 1: you'll love this, Okay. So hypothetically, if real cops had
Speaker 1: showed up on January twenty ninth at six o four
Speaker 1: in the morning, and when they heard the statements made
Speaker 1: by one of the witnesses on the scene saying it's
Speaker 1: my fault I did this, or I hit him, I
Speaker 1: hit him, okay, hypothetically speaking, had the real police did
Speaker 1: their job and detained Karen, immediately took her off the scene,
Speaker 1: took her to the station and seized her vehicle. How
Speaker 1: different would this case be today if they did their job?
Speaker 2: Now, first of all, the way this works is it
Speaker 2: goes to Kim first, then Peter, then Masurty than Maso.
Speaker 8: Okay, she's coming up quick here. So yes, how different
Speaker 8: would that have been? Have been completely different?
Speaker 3: We would not We would not be here had the
Speaker 3: what we believe the correct policy and procedures of policing
Speaker 3: were enforced on January twenty ninth, twenty twenty two, mister.
Speaker 2: Murphy, Yes, okay, now you give your take on what
Speaker 2: Sean on what Sean said, and Sean, if you need
Speaker 2: to reiterate that, please do No, I got it, I
Speaker 2: have it.
Speaker 7: We've bented this around quite a bit, Sean and I obviously.
Speaker 9: If real, real police officers showed up there and advertally
Speaker 9: didn't know whose house that was, or perhaps they even did,
Speaker 9: as Kim just said, we would not be having this conversation.
Speaker 7: Now, this case would have been over.
Speaker 9: A long long time ago. It would have been over
Speaker 9: by nine o'clock that morning before Lank made his second
Speaker 9: appearance going in to have coffee on the couch.
Speaker 2: With the family. Yeah, I'm no question. And if anybody
Speaker 2: wants to know an example of real police that that
Speaker 2: are are honest, and there are many, many, many, the
Speaker 2: overwhelming of majority of them are are like that that
Speaker 2: are out there. But two examples are at the bottom
Speaker 2: left and right of your screen right now, Maturty, I mean,
Speaker 2: what more can.
Speaker 10: We say on this one? Sean? Sean sort of pinned
Speaker 10: it pretty pretty well there. It would have been completely different,
Speaker 10: an absolute polar opposite spectrum in terms of what we
Speaker 10: got versus what we should have and could have got
Speaker 10: with the investigation, the evidence collection, the interviewing of all
Speaker 10: the well, they would have been witnesses slash suspects. But
Speaker 10: they turned out to speak like, I don't know what
Speaker 10: a talking table did? They have a round table? Here
Speaker 10: we are, we're just replicating what they did, sharing our thoughts.
Speaker 10: They shared all their thoughts, and the investigations suffered from
Speaker 10: the get because.
Speaker 2: Of it mas of media CIRTA.
Speaker 5: I just hope that none of these police officers in
Speaker 5: Canton ever worked for door Dash or grub Hub or
Speaker 5: any places like that, because God forbid any customer that
Speaker 5: ordered through their service through McDonald's or Wendy's or Burger
Speaker 5: King and the Tampa evidence sticker was on that, you know,
Speaker 5: it might be left open for you know, them to
Speaker 5: steal their French fries. Because let's be honest, it's absolutely
Speaker 5: insane that you see the tail light in the AI
Speaker 5: image behind Nurse Kim there. It's abslutely insane that evidence
Speaker 5: was placed in a stopping shop bag and sitting in
Speaker 5: sally Port with no seal on it whatsoever. Not placed
Speaker 5: in proper evidence bags. Placed in a stopping shop bag, unsealed,
Speaker 5: no tamper evident labels on it, nothing like that. It's
Speaker 5: just sitting there for people to bruise in and modify
Speaker 5: for a couple of days, unattended to, no telling who
Speaker 5: was in there, who wasn't in there. It's a whole
Speaker 5: different scenario if the cops did their job, and obviously
Speaker 5: they did everything they could to make sure that even
Speaker 5: if they couldn't incriminate Karen, that no one could really
Speaker 5: incriminate them because it's a really compromised crime scene because
Speaker 5: it wasn't properly. You know, the crime scene was released
Speaker 5: way too soon and additionally it was it was a
Speaker 5: total disaster and obviously done on purpose.
Speaker 9: I'll toast to that guys, let me see it is
Speaker 9: evidence came off because it's a wet cup with water
Speaker 9: in it.
Speaker 5: But you know where I'm going.
Speaker 1: I just want to add a dedendum to what I
Speaker 1: was getting at. Okay, So, had they done their job
Speaker 1: just on the statements alone, they had arrestable, they had arrestable.
Speaker 1: But let's give her the better for the doubt. They
Speaker 1: had a detaining type situation. They could detain her and
Speaker 1: they could have seized her car right then and there.
Speaker 1: Had they seized the car, they would have only had
Speaker 1: a crack on the tail light that red None of
Speaker 1: that red plastic would have ever been on that lawn.
Speaker 1: Look how much that case would have turned all right,
Speaker 1: there had been no evidence against her. They were going
Speaker 1: at it as a domestic assault up from ten thirty.
Speaker 1: So this case took on a whole different meeting. When
Speaker 1: the Framers got together and had their family and friend
Speaker 1: meeting and they just let her go, they irritate the
Speaker 1: car because they had the plan and they just needed time,
Speaker 1: distance distance right, and enough of a plan to get
Speaker 1: that car back and get the evidence. Had they get
Speaker 1: that car at six forty five in the morning, seize it,
Speaker 1: brought it back to ken cracktail light, no red pieces,
Speaker 1: that's right on the lawn.
Speaker 9: If they did it that way, they would have lost
Speaker 9: their opportunity, which they garnished as the day were.
Speaker 1: Not exactly They would have had zero evidence, nothing.
Speaker 2: And when Shaun says framers, by the way, he doesn't
Speaker 2: mean Alexander Hamilton and James Madison, just so that you
Speaker 2: know he's talking about Tolly and Proctor and those guys.
Speaker 2: To be clear and even and always going to be
Speaker 2: even and even certain a police lieutenant across the street
Speaker 2: who magically, all of a sudden didn't have any interesting
Speaker 2: ring camera video, which is shocking. So Peter said on
Speaker 2: our last show that he thinks he could have gotten
Speaker 2: a warrant in potentially as fast as thirty to forty
Speaker 2: five minutes, could have been longer. So I guess, because
Speaker 2: Lily's not here, I'm gonna ask a question to Sean
Speaker 2: and then send this around the table. What do you think, man?
Speaker 2: I forgot what my question is. I'm gonna have to go.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Nurse Kim and I'll try to
Speaker 2: reconjure what I had because it was related to your question.
Speaker 2: So go ahead, Nurse Kim and then I'll try to
Speaker 2: go after you.
Speaker 3: Sure, So I just wanted to ask these incredible panelists,
Speaker 3: my mister Peter Murphy, who I adore, Sean, my friend,
Speaker 3: my life, Miss Shorty, who has been such an incredible
Speaker 3: support and a strong woman voice this in this entire case.
Speaker 8: I admire everything about you, and mas of media. I
Speaker 8: can't okay, I just can't, you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, Sorry I'm gushing, but I wanted to ask because
Speaker 3: we were all such invested creatures, right, we're.
Speaker 8: Invested beings calling all beings.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sure that we've all gone back and watched
Speaker 3: and watched testimony since the trial has ended. I wanted
Speaker 3: to ask you guys specifically, has there been one piece
Speaker 3: of testimony that when you went back to look at it,
Speaker 3: you said, oh my gosh, I missed that and it
Speaker 3: has completely just you know, shattered, your brain.
Speaker 5: Fell intendent on that nurse came shatter.
Speaker 8: Twenty five pieces now.
Speaker 2: Exact? Is that to Peter Yeah, that would go to
Speaker 2: Peter Wright, whoever's next to Kim Just look and just
Speaker 2: picture this table's round a round, tables rectangular.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, I have reviewed.
Speaker 9: Quite a bit of the testimony and I'm trying to
Speaker 9: think of something right now. I'm suffering from data overload
Speaker 9: on all the stuff that I missed the first time
Speaker 9: that went through, trying to think. Most recently, I looked
Speaker 9: at I guess it was Higgins's testimony, and I'm trying
Speaker 9: to think what I missed the first time that came
Speaker 9: out glaring on the second one. I guess it was
Speaker 9: something something to do with the time frame. I believe
Speaker 9: I detected some variation evolvement in his testimony about the
Speaker 9: time that he disappeared from and who was in the
Speaker 9: kitchen when he left, because they didn't have Hennessy or
Speaker 9: his favorite bourbon or whatever it is he drank and
Speaker 9: he disappeared, and there's a big time lapse, and it
Speaker 9: seemed to come together as to why, in my mind,
Speaker 9: why he might have disappeared, as to whether he went
Speaker 9: to the station or not, and whether he was doing
Speaker 9: something else that maybe shows up in a in some
Speaker 9: sort of a not a geofence, but the you know,
Speaker 9: the phone calls that were made in log history of
Speaker 9: who we might have called some time after he got
Speaker 9: in his jeep at some time around whatever time it
Speaker 9: was twelve thirty.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yes, ma'am sure, yes, okay.
Speaker 10: So to be honest, I was so very deeply invested
Speaker 10: and entrenched in this that I watched every day of
Speaker 10: trial twice at so I watched it from my in
Speaker 10: the future but behind time zone difference in Australia from
Speaker 10: about three point thirty, I used to watch the whole
Speaker 10: day of trial at like one point five x speed
Speaker 10: with one commentator and then like a law tuber, and
Speaker 10: then I'd watch it all again on one point seventy
Speaker 10: five x speed with another legal commentator, and then I
Speaker 10: would watch the nightly reek and then i'd watch the
Speaker 10: panel shows. So I got to say I didn't miss
Speaker 10: anything and I didn't come back to it because I
Speaker 10: saw it all and nauseum. However, if I was going
Speaker 10: to say the the if I had to be just
Speaker 10: one little thing that came to mind right now that
Speaker 10: wasn't nothing. Didn't blow my mind in retrospect, but at
Speaker 10: the time, it was that moment when the library, the
Speaker 10: it guy from the library was ended the disc by Lally,
Speaker 10: and like he was already kind of look a little
Speaker 10: bit smirky and like about Lally, and then when Lally
Speaker 10: handed him the disc and he's like, this isn't my disk.
Speaker 10: I mean, I think it's an underrated moment and a
Speaker 10: glorious moment, and Lally like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh good, sort that is an underrated moment. That's exactly
Speaker 2: what you said, because that that whole library footage that
Speaker 2: they had a scrub. And this kind of feeds into
Speaker 2: my question that I forgot earlier, but I was able
Speaker 2: to jot it down in between these answers. So my
Speaker 2: question for Sean is this, when do you think the
Speaker 2: decision was made not to take a photo since you
Speaker 2: alluded to it, not to take a photo of her vehicle,
Speaker 2: either at the scene or at Dighton. How do you
Speaker 2: think was that something from the Canton PD, that someone
Speaker 2: in that hierarchy, or was that someone at the either
Speaker 2: trooper Proctor when he when he had the case fell
Speaker 2: to him. I forget how you guys say that, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the part that seals the theory that I
Speaker 1: have that they made this decision after they sat down. Okay,
Speaker 1: So initially we know this that A. Karen was not
Speaker 1: with her vehicle on the scene at the time, okay,
Speaker 1: And the working theory in the very early mornings was
Speaker 1: that she hit John. Okay, she hit him, physically hit him.
Speaker 1: And we know from Uri Buchanic and the hospital administrators
Speaker 1: that he was still working the case as a domestic assault.
Speaker 1: The girlfriend hit the quote unquote decedent with the waters
Speaker 1: with a cocktail glass or a water glass. Okay. Now
Speaker 1: we know that Brian Albert is a very shrewd and
Speaker 1: smart person. He's got a criminal mind. He knew when
Speaker 1: they all went back in right after Lank and company
Speaker 1: left him, Jen McCabe starts saying, well, you know they
Speaker 1: think that it's a it's an assault and battery by
Speaker 1: Karen to John and he goes, Ain't no way, no
Speaker 1: one's gonna believe that. Okay. So when they when they
Speaker 1: all think about this, all right, why did they all
Speaker 1: leave Brian's house to conduct the Indians all down at
Speaker 1: Jen's house. It didn't make any sense none at all.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: They had askstorm, they had to pass the police department
Speaker 1: to get the Gens house, okay, and I believe in
Speaker 1: those hours the actual plan was, Okay, if she's making
Speaker 1: these statements I hit him, well then we need to
Speaker 1: get the car and we need to get that evidence
Speaker 1: because they knew Canton found nothing. Canton found nothing, they
Speaker 1: knew that, and it was a shit plan to begin with,
Speaker 1: but that's the that's the best plan they had. And
Speaker 1: so that decision was made between the hours of say,
Speaker 1: ten o'clock like eleven fifteen, after Brian started thinking, and
Speaker 1: then they had all those hours from eleven fifteen to
Speaker 1: four fifteen to get it all in motion. How did
Speaker 1: Tully know enough to instruct O'Hara where they should look
Speaker 1: for the pieces of red tail light after two feet
Speaker 1: of snow have fallen and twelve hours later of an
Speaker 1: unsecured crime scene. And that's the answer to my court.
Speaker 1: That's the answer to the question to you, DJ.
Speaker 2: Thank you, And that makes sense. You know, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to figure out, you know, how it all came together
Speaker 2: where the initial arriving officers thinking, how are we going
Speaker 2: to not pin this on Brian. So, Nurse Kim, what's
Speaker 2: your take on how you see those communications might have gone?
Speaker 8: I'm so sorry one more time.
Speaker 2: So essentially, ma'am, it's the communications that would have happened
Speaker 2: after the officers a riot, and you can choose to
Speaker 2: tackle the communications between officers in Canton. You could choose,
Speaker 2: uh to tackle what you believe the communications were between
Speaker 2: Proctor when he got hold of it at whatever time
Speaker 2: that was, or the the Mcalbert families.
Speaker 3: Okay, so actually okay, can I all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tackle it this way what you want. I would like
Speaker 3: to say that I think that it is underrated or
Speaker 3: under discussed that Lank went in that house all by himself,
Speaker 3: sad and Good was never in that house. And although
Speaker 3: his reports say that he went in that house and
Speaker 3: that he had a partner with him, it is very
Speaker 3: clear as evidence by Jennifer McCabe's testimony, Coco's testimony, and
Speaker 3: and even Brian Albert.
Speaker 8: He fixed it. He fixed it like I fixed my face,
Speaker 8: but he fixed.
Speaker 3: It, saying that well, Lank came in first and then
Speaker 3: he was like, oh no, but then Sergeant Good, I
Speaker 3: mean Good came in right behind him, or something like
Speaker 3: in that effect.
Speaker 8: But but Coco was the one who told us that
Speaker 8: it was just Lank in the house. Now what does
Speaker 8: that mean? That means that when everybody's in there, when
Speaker 8: they're doing their their.
Speaker 3: Round storyboard, they're doing their storyboard and they are commiserating
Speaker 3: of you know, what are we all going to say?
Speaker 3: And getting it all together? And I believe that Jennifer
Speaker 3: j Jennifer McKay, it was the ring leader of that
Speaker 3: cover up squad and she just you know, she was
Speaker 3: doing her darn thing. Do I think that Jennifer that
Speaker 3: she had anything to do with, you know, actually hurting anyone.
Speaker 8: Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: But I think that she needed to be the sweep
Speaker 3: it up kind of gal that she is and to
Speaker 3: make sure that the narrative has.
Speaker 8: Her family walking out and smelling like roses.
Speaker 3: But I think that it is highly telling that the
Speaker 3: communication between those officers, right was although Lank went in
Speaker 3: a family friend and old family.
Speaker 8: Friend goes back with Kevin, not Kevin. Well, yeah, Kevin
Speaker 8: and Chris Albert. You know, they go back.
Speaker 3: There's issues with you know, public acts with the Lappelado
Speaker 3: brothers and costing the town of Canton three hundred thousand
Speaker 3: dollars in a lawsuit. Thank you, Rita one body for
Speaker 3: that info, you know, readA. Yes, Rita tells it, but
Speaker 3: like it just goes back so far and it shows
Speaker 3: that right then that good was willing to say I
Speaker 3: went in the house when he didn't.
Speaker 8: What else?
Speaker 2: Right? Thank you? Yeah, I mean it's really interesting how
Speaker 2: this all came together. But yeah, it's I mean, Jen
Speaker 2: being the ring leader and trying to put that together.
Speaker 2: It just shows what a devious mind. But what Sean
Speaker 2: brought up just for everybody out there, and if you're
Speaker 2: like sort of team Mcalbert and you're in the chat
Speaker 2: right now, you can't explain how you don't document the
Speaker 2: condition of the vehicle as it's found is, particularly when
Speaker 2: that's your hypothesis of the crime. The only reason you
Speaker 2: could do that is to make sure you couldn't document
Speaker 2: it so that it couldn't be proven later on. There
Speaker 2: was nothing wrong with it, and everybody should take stock
Speaker 2: in that. There's a reason why people don't just do things.
Speaker 2: You don't just get rid of your phone. You don't
Speaker 2: just sell your home. You don't just rehome your dog.
Speaker 2: You don't take your phone to a military base and
Speaker 2: smash the SIM card maybe with a pair of leatherman
Speaker 2: pliers and throw it in the dumpster. All these things
Speaker 2: are done for a reason, and there we can only
Speaker 2: come up with one reason. I know none of us
Speaker 2: are that smart, but we can only come up with
Speaker 2: one reason. Anyway, Sorry miss miss mister Murphy. If you
Speaker 2: want to take that one around real quick, sir.
Speaker 7: Uh just I have a couple of possible.
Speaker 9: If Ian's orbots on that thought, I think I think
Speaker 9: the feds have it all. Sean and I at length
Speaker 9: about this. I think the Feds have it all. I
Speaker 9: think I don't think they lack for anything right now,
Speaker 9: and I'm going to be surprised if when this all
Speaker 9: comes out, probably sooner than later, that that there weren't
Speaker 9: a lot of phone calls made sometime after most of
Speaker 9: the younger adults left, which I guess was sometime around
Speaker 9: twelve one thirty, I guess according to testimony. And I
Speaker 9: think that the plan and everything started to fall into place,
Speaker 9: and I think calls were made then, and I wouldn't
Speaker 9: be surprised if there's real surprises as to who was
Speaker 9: notified and when, and perhaps somebody that ended up showing
Speaker 9: up in a Ford Edge around three o'clock or two.
Speaker 7: Thirty that maybe went out for bread and milk.
Speaker 9: I just think there's a lot of I think there's
Speaker 9: a lot to be had in the phone data, which
Speaker 9: is going to bring a lot of this speculation that.
Speaker 7: We all have to the forefront.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who else doesn't go out for bread and milk
Speaker 2: when you're drunk at three in the morning. I always
Speaker 2: do that every day this morning, I mean, my goodness,
Speaker 2: standard operating procedure. I just want to make sure a
Speaker 2: nurse Kim doesn't try to ham up her Massachusetts accent
Speaker 2: to beat Sean. You have a legitimate competitor here tonight.
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that. Okay, he wins.
Speaker 8: Listen, listen, he wins.
Speaker 1: All right, Dochester, I believe miss Shody shot.
Speaker 2: The competition. It is on. It is on tonight, Miss
Speaker 2: Sorty communications, but Misshody a communication between uh you.
Speaker 1: Know, put in there. You only put ours when there's
Speaker 1: no like BRender.
Speaker 11: Pizza, right right, mister Dochester. All right, I'm learning, Dochester.
Speaker 1: You don't say dor Chester. You saying chester Chester guy?
Speaker 2: All right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: Keeping a healthy guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're Sam Nigel. You're a loser guy. Yeah, boy,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Sam nags.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Doggins for Saint Patty's Day breakfast.
Speaker 1: Doggings called Dorgans, but we say Doggins. I'm going to
Speaker 1: Donkeys guy, you know, dunkadunk Lanca.
Speaker 2: And if we didn't say Alank. I love when he
Speaker 2: says Lanka. I want to say it for anyone out
Speaker 2: there if because I know, I think we said it
Speaker 2: last show. Oh and there's my guy Big for Influencer's
Speaker 2: tim saying Woolsta.
Speaker 1: You know some you know what's funny? Uh the people
Speaker 1: from Worcester say Wista.
Speaker 5: Original in the state says that we call it worst.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I wish I had known that the Wista
Speaker 2: Centrum where I went to Motley Crue when I was
Speaker 2: a Dean Shawn's Yes, I see that Seawan's audio is low.
Speaker 2: I cannot increase his audio. Sean, you can just turn
Speaker 2: your your mic volume up a couple of potatoes or
Speaker 2: or something. That's what That's what they want to hear you.
Speaker 2: So miss Shoty, Miss Shody since yeah that as you
Speaker 2: sound good to me. I can hear you a lot
Speaker 2: of the I'm just I'm like, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Really just doing a little Woolsaw Woolsa after my big
Speaker 1: show this afternoon. Is that any better?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I hear you, just like you guys were hearing
Speaker 2: El Choppo when when you were listening on the recordings.
Speaker 1: We were listening to Alo when he wasn't El Choppo.
Speaker 1: He was like a little peasant from Mexico.
Speaker 2: Low level chump, or what's the other guy from Colombia?
Speaker 2: Who's the Columbian guy? You guys busted? What was yea?
Speaker 1: He made his demise though he didn't arrest him.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, one way or the other. DJ's a
Speaker 2: lot louder. Okay, I will turn my audio down, thank
Speaker 2: you very much, massuorty. Communications between let's call them interested parties.
Speaker 2: Is that fair testing testing? How's this? Someone checked me
Speaker 2: on the mic volume that's in the chat? How does
Speaker 2: this mic volume sound wista good, bad, indifferent? Okay, just
Speaker 2: let me know, Please go ahead, miss shoddy.
Speaker 8: I think that I would like.
Speaker 10: To know more about Kerry Roberts and what she was being,
Speaker 10: what JJ McKay was instructing her on for how long,
Speaker 10: and how much that influenced her remembering of that morning
Speaker 10: in those events, and her opinion of Aaron Reid. I
Speaker 10: think that that he's peripheral, but she was also crazy.
Speaker 2: She's not that part film, right, Yep. That would be
Speaker 2: an interesting one here because it seems like a lot
Speaker 2: of some of the let's call them the ancillary parties
Speaker 2: that were there are probably scared to death to say anything.
Speaker 2: Maza Mark Maza Media, who, by the way, whoever stole
Speaker 2: his thing on the cash app or on Venmo. You
Speaker 2: should be ashamed of yourself trying to you should you
Speaker 2: should seriously message Venmo about that because they're going to
Speaker 2: try to get donations that meant for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. So we always try to make sure the
Speaker 5: audience is aware that it's you know, it has has
Speaker 5: my name in front of it, not the massive media.
Speaker 5: So I was I was trying to set it up
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 5: There's already one going on. I think there are a
Speaker 5: few other MASA media's out there that do exist, but
Speaker 5: I don't know. Something tells me that they probably weren't
Speaker 5: operating one of those. So that was that was needing
Speaker 5: to find that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, we've got to message them. But anyway, what's
Speaker 2: your take on communications between the inter folks?
Speaker 5: Sure there was something like at foot, as a Mark
Speaker 5: Betterow attorney Mark Beerroll likes to say, something was certainly
Speaker 5: at foot that particular night. These people were way too
Speaker 5: active in their communications throughout that entire night. From two
Speaker 5: twenty seven am, Google searches of hustlong to Die in Cold,
Speaker 5: which actually happened Celebrate confirms it. Regardless of whatever the
Speaker 5: Commonwealth's witness wants to say about it, that search did happen.
Speaker 5: Celbright didn't put it there themselves when they run their data.
Speaker 5: That data was accessible in their system and on their
Speaker 5: records for a reason, because someone had, in fact search
Speaker 5: two twenty seven am at T twenty seven am hustlong
Speaker 5: to die in cold. There were way too many phone
Speaker 5: calls going on between these folks and communication exchanges on
Speaker 5: top of that. You have so many deleted messages on
Speaker 5: top of that, and it's absolutely insane what was going
Speaker 5: on that particular night. This is why it's hard to
Speaker 5: fathom that there wasn't something going on, because they were
Speaker 5: way too the communication was way too high, all these
Speaker 5: calls that were made. The JOHNA keeps to me, sounds
Speaker 5: simply as we can't find his phone, where is his phone? Well,
Speaker 5: let's try to call the thing a couple times and
Speaker 5: kind of make it seem like, oh, we're just looking
Speaker 5: to see where he was or whatever. It just doesn't
Speaker 5: make any sense to me why anybody would even think
Speaker 5: that there's nothing suspicious going on, because it is fairly
Speaker 5: obvious if they're just way too active that particular and
Speaker 5: now you get people up till four in the morning.
Speaker 5: All this stuff is going on the fact that even
Speaker 5: when Karen was driven by thirty four fair View with
Speaker 5: Kerry and jen it's Karen that ends up noticing the body.
Speaker 5: And Alan Jackson even asked questions of that during cross
Speaker 5: examination of Jennifer McKay. If you had driven by and
Speaker 5: Karen hadn't pointed out that there was a body on
Speaker 5: the front of the lawn, you wouldn't have stopped. That
Speaker 5: was one of the things that he said. Oh and
Speaker 5: another thing about communication, It is possible to have a
Speaker 5: fifteen second phone call and get quite a bit of
Speaker 5: information out there. It's as simple as saying, you know,
Speaker 5: you can say directions, anything like that in a matter
Speaker 5: of fifteen seconds. It doesn't take that long at all
Speaker 5: to communicate a sufficient amount of information in a small
Speaker 5: window of time. So whoever says that that's not possible,
Speaker 5: just look at them. I think it was Higgins or al.
Speaker 5: But I think it was Brian Higgins attorney who said,
Speaker 5: I'll talk to my client. I only need about ten seconds.
Speaker 2: I mean, massa, don't you go and like delete like
Speaker 2: a bunch of don't you go in like delete like
Speaker 2: a bunch of calls and like Google searches, like after
Speaker 2: a night of drinking, isn't that what you're doing, like
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. That's what I do,
Speaker 2: especially if there's been a major crime committee. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know what, let me just go delete a bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff just because I'm bored, and let me look
Speaker 2: at the soccer scores for my daughter's soccer league.
Speaker 5: Right exactly. I always say there's only two people on
Speaker 5: the face of this earth that would be googling basketball
Speaker 5: at two o'clock in the morning, and I'm one of
Speaker 5: those too.
Speaker 2: So that's the only thing I'll say. Is typically better
Speaker 2: Rose the other Better Rose the other one. And I
Speaker 2: want to talk Celtics with Better. I want to talk
Speaker 2: about with Better. I want to ask him the greatest
Speaker 2: Celtics player that people don't talk about, and I want
Speaker 2: to try to figure out with him who that might be.
Speaker 5: I have a Sam Jones.
Speaker 2: Sam Jones is in the Hall of Fame, but they
Speaker 2: don't talk about him. That's fair.
Speaker 5: Stat standards was a great power for the Celtics and
Speaker 5: the sex.
Speaker 2: DJ dj DJ is a great one. So we're gonna have,
Speaker 2: but we can't have this without better row He'll be upset.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have to wait till we get better.
Speaker 2: But I want to first of all, the glare Cameron,
Speaker 2: who else here? Caveman? Thank you for these super chats.
Speaker 2: We're going to get to every one of them, but
Speaker 2: we just got to get through the panel first. So,
Speaker 2: Nurse Kim, are you next? Or is a Sergeant Peter Mffy,
Speaker 2: Mister Murphy, I'm working on Kim. I'm trying to get there. Girlfriend.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your topics?
Speaker 7: You want my topic?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think this well. Actually I came up with two
Speaker 7: with them, so I overdid my homework.
Speaker 1: Overachiever, really do one to start to start off with?
Speaker 2: Just one started?
Speaker 1: Start it up?
Speaker 5: They have too, just in case somebody who is yours Peter,
Speaker 5: I have two listed myself, so all.
Speaker 7: Right, thank you, thank you for that. I guess I'll
Speaker 7: run with one of them.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 9: So my question would be when, where and how did
Speaker 9: Chloe get evacuated and by whom?
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a great one, Miss misshoty.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 10: Kaitlin Abbott in the in with Christian Yeah, band.
Speaker 2: Your knowledge is so good man, You're so on point. Okay, Masa,
Speaker 2: what who did the kazavak or the X phil as
Speaker 2: we'd say in a f SoC who did the X
Speaker 2: fill on Chloe to get her out of there exfiltrated?
Speaker 5: I think Miss Shorty is very spot on. Now, there
Speaker 5: could be a few other possibilities. However, the highest probability
Speaker 5: is that Chloe he was removed from that house prior
Speaker 5: to any significant you know, duration of the evening, because
Speaker 5: the dog obviously was involved, you know it definitely. I mean,
Speaker 5: if you can guarantee at least one being, if we're
Speaker 5: using that term tonight, DJ being on your show, if
Speaker 5: there's one being that was definitely involved without question, it's
Speaker 5: it's Chloe the dog, right, I mean, let's be honest.
Speaker 5: So that dog would have had to have been out
Speaker 5: of there by a certain amount of time, and it
Speaker 5: makes sense that the dog basically left, you know, earlier,
Speaker 5: you know, before by the time authorities got there later
Speaker 5: in the day, well, oh oh no, that dog was gone.
Speaker 5: That dog, that dog left earlier.
Speaker 2: Chloe.
Speaker 5: Chloe was maybe here to like, I don't know, eight o'clock.
Speaker 5: I don't know, that's what they wanted to kind of
Speaker 5: go for, right, to say that you had to get
Speaker 5: Chloe out of there, right. I mean it's a good
Speaker 5: idea in a sense to get anybody that was probably
Speaker 5: involved out of that house by a certain amount of time,
Speaker 5: if we're being honest here, because I mean geez, I
Speaker 5: mean I know if someone had, like, you know, beat
Speaker 5: the wrap out of John inside the house and practically
Speaker 5: killed him, I mean I probably want to get that
Speaker 5: person out of the house as soon as possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, my dog also, she normally goes out three
Speaker 2: in the morning, like you know, she doesn't really sleep like,
Speaker 2: she tends to go out and party pretty late. So
Speaker 2: how do you think the X fil happened? Did? Do
Speaker 2: you think like one of the one sixtieth sore and
Speaker 2: MH forty seven or a MH sixty came in and
Speaker 2: picked up Chloe. You know they they dropped down the
Speaker 2: uh the basket, you know, and picked her up air
Speaker 2: lifted her out of Canton.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, we we think about logically, right, we
Speaker 1: know the dog was there in the evening when they
Speaker 1: all came in. Right now when that morning, we know
Speaker 1: the dog was definitely not there by Jen McCall, Jim mcab.
Speaker 2: Someone called her Jen mccob in the last I just
Speaker 2: want you to know that Jen mccob someone coined her
Speaker 2: in the last roundtable and that was brilliant.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yuh, So.
Speaker 1: I would have to say two things, all right. I'm
Speaker 1: leaning towards definitely leaning towards the fact that Caitlyn took
Speaker 1: that dog, all right, with with Trician. I gotta remember,
Speaker 1: if Tristian was only direct about a few questions, most
Speaker 1: of the question is I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what time it was, but I believe hed Finley said
Speaker 1: he was asked, did you take the dog back? And
Speaker 1: he Definley said no, Okay, I believe. However, there is
Speaker 1: also a possibility, I hate to say this, you know
Speaker 1: that Brian probably did a little snap of the neck
Speaker 1: and killed that dog. And I hate, I hate to
Speaker 1: say that, but I would lean towards the obvious because
Speaker 1: what's her name is saying? Uh Nicole saying was up
Speaker 1: and up in Vermont. So I'm leaning towards Caitlin and
Speaker 1: Trician getting the dog. That would make sense. That would
Speaker 1: make sense.
Speaker 2: So not the knight stalkers from Fort Campbell.
Speaker 1: I don't believe.
Speaker 2: So no, okay, because if someone would have seen a
Speaker 2: black Fort Campbell for the night I was. If you
Speaker 2: guys listen, watch black Hawk down. Anybody who's seen black
Speaker 2: Hawk down? Those are the night stalkers.
Speaker 1: I was there, uh at Fort Bragg the night before
Speaker 1: they changed the name, and everyone was there for the induction,
Speaker 1: for the induction thing. I stayed there that night. When
Speaker 1: I was coming back from Canton. My last dinner was
Speaker 1: at the hillside a couple.
Speaker 2: Of Liberty Yeah it was nice. Don't Confederate general names
Speaker 2: on there. Yeah, good sir, real quick.
Speaker 5: Just to jump ben hair. So I would say this
Speaker 5: about all the witnesses is that Tristan was the only
Speaker 5: witness that I felt that when he said I don't
Speaker 5: recall her, I don't remember that, I felt that he
Speaker 5: was telling the truth. That's all I wanted to say.
Speaker 2: The one was the one guy that was the guy
Speaker 2: We've been looking for, someone that didn't recall or remember
Speaker 2: and we found one person out of out of what
Speaker 2: are the sixty eight witnesses, that's great, right right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So I did give a little little tea today in
Speaker 1: my afternoon crowd about Trician's real biological mother.
Speaker 2: Oh you can't just tease that, Sean. And yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Found out today that Trician's biological mother is she's still alive.
Speaker 1: Is was a stripper back in the day down the
Speaker 1: combat zone at Centerfolds.
Speaker 8: Beautiful.
Speaker 2: I would say, it doesn't make her a bad person.
Speaker 1: Doesn't make her a bad person. But the problem is
Speaker 1: now is that I understand Jay, he goes he goes
Speaker 1: by Jay, but his real name is Howard. Howard Marris
Speaker 1: and the wife that basically raised Trician are getting divorced.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm hearing. So listen, you know, I said
Speaker 1: to my crew today at we had a we had
Speaker 1: a roll call of about four hundred people. We had
Speaker 1: a roll call.
Speaker 2: Peter.
Speaker 1: Peter was in the roll call, right, and I basically said, guys,
Speaker 1: this is the deal. You kill a cop and you
Speaker 1: frame it an innocent woman. Expect expect the laundry to
Speaker 1: come out, and it's coming out, and that's it.
Speaker 2: He's gonna this brother. But these two guys you see
Speaker 2: at the at the bottom of your screen here on
Speaker 2: your left and your right. I know y'all think that
Speaker 2: you know, they don't been there and they've done that,
Speaker 2: and they're not gonna They're not gonna just forget about
Speaker 2: it and just it's just gonna you know, you're just
Speaker 2: gonna walk away from this because they're gonna keep uncovering
Speaker 2: people and somebody's gonna talk to them. People have already
Speaker 2: talked to Peter and Shawn. And eventually you're gonna get caught.
Speaker 2: I know you think you're not, but you will, you will. Yeah,
Speaker 2: her name was.
Speaker 1: Mully Kara Mullen is the biological mother's name. And we
Speaker 1: don't know if she belongs to the famous Mullen gang
Speaker 1: that ran ragged. I don't know up and down in
Speaker 1: South Healthy, down up in Selvie. I don't know whether
Speaker 1: christ I'm back. I think I'm in Boston all the
Speaker 1: time now that ran crazy back in the day, you know.
Speaker 1: So anyways, but the bottom line is this, Uh, you
Speaker 1: kill a cop and you frame an innocent woman, you
Speaker 1: can't expect to help have the whole wrath of fury
Speaker 1: amongst you on top of you. And that's that's gonna
Speaker 1: be my My machnoris from this day forward.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you declared, uh, you declared a continuing war
Speaker 2: on Brian Albert the other day. Yeah, which is a
Speaker 2: beautiful thing. Okay, so and and everybody. Thank you for
Speaker 2: all these brilliant comments in the chat we're going to
Speaker 2: get to at the end, we're going to get to
Speaker 2: all the super chats and then as many because there
Speaker 2: are so many brilliant comments here, and thank you very
Speaker 2: much for all those. But now we have to go
Speaker 2: with a topic by miss Shoddy as I as I
Speaker 2: work on my accent shot.
Speaker 10: Yes, so, obviously we've just had some not surprising but
Speaker 10: pretty devastating news from Auntie Bev the Honorable Judge Canoni
Speaker 10: with regards to denying the motion to dismiss. And people
Speaker 10: have been throughout this whole trial and even obviously through
Speaker 10: pre trial motions and hearings, being quite vocal about her
Speaker 10: apparent ostensible bias. But I remember when I was watching
Speaker 10: a trial and I had watched pretril motions, the first
Speaker 10: thing that really stood out to me that she was
Speaker 10: meddling in things and making things difficult for everybody, but
Speaker 10: seemly mostly the defense was when she insisted that even
Speaker 10: though pre trials she had them all mark all their
Speaker 10: evidence pre marked numerically, and then when it got to trial,
Speaker 10: on what day two or day three or day four,
Speaker 10: she decided she wanted them to market new mayor as
Speaker 10: it was coming in, so they had to shift and change,
Speaker 10: and that to me was a huge red flag that
Speaker 10: she was making things.
Speaker 7: Harder for everybody.
Speaker 10: So I guess I wanted to know what other noteworthy
Speaker 10: things from the round table that stood out to them.
Speaker 10: Smaller things, but you know, cumulatively that's pretty huge.
Speaker 5: Was a headache, thats all right, Yeah, I mean she
Speaker 5: was meddling throughout this whole thing. I honestly, I've never
Speaker 5: felt favorable about her at all, and obviously this past
Speaker 5: week to me, this just yesterday wasn't even the icing
Speaker 5: on the cake. I mean, at this point, the icing
Speaker 5: on the cake is about fifty seven layers at this
Speaker 5: particular point. Let's be honest, she is. She is absolutely
Speaker 5: metal from start to finish, limiting certain things, not allowing
Speaker 5: certain things to be a part of the trials, such
Speaker 5: as third party culprit, which I thought should have definitely
Speaker 5: been in play in this particular case. But you know, this,
Speaker 5: this all really reached the boiling point when it came
Speaker 5: time for jury deliberations, and mediately the defense had something
Speaker 5: that they needed to bring to the judges attention, and
Speaker 5: they brought it into the courtroom and immediately it turned
Speaker 5: into an absolute dogfight, no pun intended, and that's all
Speaker 5: it became. And you saw this judge being absolutely impatient, rude,
Speaker 5: even snapped at Karen Reid, who couldn't help herself but
Speaker 5: sit there. And Karen Reid was laughing, and she was
Speaker 5: within her right to laugh because she was laughing at
Speaker 5: an absolute charade that was playing right before our eyes
Speaker 5: that this is so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Are you frozen? We lost we lost Masa, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5: Last night, you know, I was on the Young Jerks
Speaker 5: with Bianca Mmm, and she had that jury slip. You know,
Speaker 5: the verdict slipt and it's pretty difficult to read. I
Speaker 5: still think I can figure out what they're trying to
Speaker 5: go for. But at the same time, you know the
Speaker 5: wire counts one, two, and three labeled two, three, and four.
Speaker 5: Why does this just say not guilty but it doesn't
Speaker 5: say not guilty on all counts, all the below accounts.
Speaker 5: It doesn't specify that. It's extremely difficult. So this judge
Speaker 5: tried to justify that this was the way we did
Speaker 5: things do things in Massachusetts, and David Denetti immediately stood
Speaker 5: up and said, well, you know, come on, that's not
Speaker 5: the way we do things in Massachusetts here. That this
Speaker 5: judge gives every outside observer, everyone on the defense team,
Speaker 5: and Karen her whole family, every reason to question her
Speaker 5: and not trust her whatsoever because she's just not someone
Speaker 5: that can basically be trusted as an impartial judge. And
Speaker 5: it's just absolutely at this point, just more sickening now
Speaker 5: than ever. And like I said, delayers of icing on
Speaker 5: this cake are just continuing to stack. It's insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, let me I just want to comment
Speaker 2: real quickly. I became aware calling all being is true
Speaker 2: Crime Unsolved our group before was during our first investigation,
Speaker 2: which was a missing woman in Pennsylvania, which is going
Speaker 2: to take us probably another month or two to put
Speaker 2: that produced podcast together with interviews, etc. When I became
Speaker 2: aware of the Karen retrial and started consuming all of
Speaker 2: you that are on the screen right now, and I
Speaker 2: contacted a friend of me from my hometown because I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm a towney as well, like Judge bev Is,
Speaker 2: but I'm a towney that thinks out that whose mind
Speaker 2: travels outside of my own town and doesn't just put
Speaker 2: everything in the context that if you're not from the town,
Speaker 2: we're against you. And my first impression I contacted one
Speaker 2: of my hometown friends who's been a legal law clerk
Speaker 2: for thirty five years, and I said, Jill, I said,
Speaker 2: I really feel like this judge is biased. I really
Speaker 2: feel like she does not like the defense. And a
Speaker 2: lot of people now have said, I don't know if
Speaker 2: someone said the other night, it's actually Alan Jackson that
Speaker 2: she doesn't like because he's not from there. He's not
Speaker 2: from Campton, he's not from mass like that somehow makes
Speaker 2: you less of a human and less competent in your job.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've I've always thought that she was biased,
Speaker 2: and unfortunately I hope she would prove me wrong, and
Speaker 2: she proved me right. Sometimes you want to be wrong, right,
Speaker 2: miss Shorty. Yeah, you're hoping, Okay, she's gonna have an
Speaker 2: epiphany of some sort and she's gonna she's gonna follow
Speaker 2: you know what justice is. There are people that have said,
Speaker 2: we've got to bring these people in. Even the lawyer
Speaker 2: you know, Peter said last night that that's what she
Speaker 2: should have done. A of you who have seen Peter,
Speaker 2: I don't know if his name is Tregos, the lawyer
Speaker 2: you know so yes, So Sean, please go ahead, sir
Speaker 2: with with that one judge Bev Bias, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely echo miss shaughty and Masa. Now, let's
Speaker 1: face it, she headed in for that defense scene from
Speaker 1: day one. I mean, I'm going back to the ocean hearings.
Speaker 1: She particularly had disdain for both Jackson and Liza Little
Speaker 1: and you know they couldn't catch or break anytime they
Speaker 1: wanted something like telephone data. You know, thank god the
Speaker 1: FBI has the telephone data. But you know, just just
Speaker 1: the disdain she had for that team. And like Masa said,
Speaker 1: he took, he took. My only comment it was going
Speaker 1: to be how she she went at krying and sad.
Speaker 1: You think this is funny, mister, you know, show some restraint, Bev.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on. But one thing that did surprise me,
Speaker 1: and I was extremely I was encouraged by that, but
Speaker 1: it was short lived is when she went back to
Speaker 1: her chambers and had a discuss. You know, had to
Speaker 1: think about, well this she's going to let the dirty
Speaker 1: videos and statements of Colin albert in and she did.
Speaker 1: She allowed all those vide like which is I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, Alan Jackson must have had a field day.
Speaker 1: He says, I'm gonna let this out. Pull up, bitch,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fuck you up. And I gotta say it
Speaker 1: was one of the greatest cross examinations of a fucking
Speaker 1: punk about punk.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get tacked.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you pull up, please, sorry, buddy.
Speaker 5: But he said silent to day, I'm gonna let me
Speaker 5: put my little.
Speaker 1: But the fact that the fact that he said that
Speaker 1: she came back and allowed that I was so encouraged.
Speaker 1: So was one that was at least one good, good
Speaker 1: thing that happened during but it was short lived. And
Speaker 1: then she she definitely blew it. Matter fact, if you
Speaker 1: remember when she read when she read the jury's last note,
Speaker 1: she immediately she didn't even she didn't even look at
Speaker 1: the defense. She immediately said, and we're not gonna I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do this to you people. All right, you
Speaker 1: guys are dismissed. She she he's saying that the defense
Speaker 1: didn't even say anything about polling the jury. She dismissed
Speaker 1: them summarily right then and there.
Speaker 2: That's you know, So anyways, what does Melanie say, I
Speaker 2: alone get to decide. It's my right. You know what
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm gonna use Sean Jackson a nacissist.
Speaker 2: And I want to tell you this, this, this, this
Speaker 2: competition is not looking good right now for you, Nurse Kim.
Speaker 2: I just want to get that off.
Speaker 8: I haven't talked that much.
Speaker 2: That's okay. There you go, all right, there you go,
Speaker 2: all right, it's you go ahead and girlfriend, go ahead, stag.
Speaker 2: The stage is yours.
Speaker 8: I'm just joking. I know we listened to get all
Speaker 8: the respects you want. I already told you.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the competition is still on. We don't
Speaker 2: want to the jury go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, so I have two things. First that she I
Speaker 3: thought it was unfair because we had no idea what
Speaker 3: her objections were, right, so someone would just say object
Speaker 3: and she would either sustain or not when but I
Speaker 3: felt like Lally would have had in my humble opinion,
Speaker 3: he wouldn't have been able to say correct objections right.
Speaker 3: So he was just objecting on occasion prior to even
Speaker 3: Alan Jackson or Yanetti getting out their questions right. And she,
Speaker 3: in my humble opinion, bev handheld with Adam Lally the
Speaker 3: entire trial. My second thing was I thought it was
Speaker 3: incredibly unfair for her to rule that the witnesses were
Speaker 3: allowed to talk about Turtle like about alleged harassment and
Speaker 3: intimidation when it is an ongoing case and alleged right,
Speaker 3: so like this hasn't been Turtle Boy has been convicted
Speaker 3: of nothing. He's accused of witness intimidation. They were allowed
Speaker 3: to bring this up in trial when asked by you know,
Speaker 3: the defense, because allegedly they opened their own door, but
Speaker 3: he didn't.
Speaker 8: But neither here nor there. But there was a.
Speaker 3: Huge confusion for the jurors as it related to the
Speaker 3: federal investigation and when they had to say in another
Speaker 3: proceeding not related to this grand jury, I feel like
Speaker 3: and I feel like it was just a huge disservice
Speaker 3: because those jurors had no idea and they believed that
Speaker 3: the arca that crash Daddies were from an insurance company banks,
Speaker 3: they had no frigging clothes. So Turtle Boy gets this exclusive,
Speaker 3: he talks to the you know, he talks to a
Speaker 3: juror has this incredible interview. Question twenty five, twenty six,
Speaker 3: and twenty seven are basically stating where this juror says,
Speaker 3: I had no I would have never thought it like
Speaker 3: any way, shape or form, that it could have been
Speaker 3: the FBI or a federal investigation.
Speaker 8: And that I get why she couldn't, you know what
Speaker 8: I mean?
Speaker 3: Like or I get they need to be able to
Speaker 3: tailor that better because there needs to be an understanding
Speaker 3: of who.
Speaker 8: ARC is and that they work for a federal agency.
Speaker 8: In my humble opinion, yeah, we.
Speaker 2: Need to get those stats, Kim and see how many
Speaker 2: objections were sustained, and I think you have to be
Speaker 2: above ninety percent. But if anybody has that data, it's
Speaker 2: got to be above ninety percent that those objections were sustained.
Speaker 2: And it seemed like one of every ten she might
Speaker 2: allow something that Jackson would ask or Ynetti. She wasn't
Speaker 2: as difficult with Attorney Little, but she really was with
Speaker 2: Jackson and wouldn't let him get into a groove, wouldn't
Speaker 2: let him to build any momentum and break down those
Speaker 2: witnesses in a way that Sergio, who I hope to
Speaker 2: be able to get on this show. Sergia, I can't
Speaker 2: recall his last name, the federal guy who does interrogations
Speaker 2: and stuff. Tell guy is it Donado? Can't remember his name,
Speaker 2: but anyway, but yes.
Speaker 1: A minute, but didn't she even she jumped lally Lalie
Speaker 1: didn't even object and she said, sustain do you want.
Speaker 2: To object to that? Yeah? Do you want to object
Speaker 2: to that?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I know.
Speaker 2: It's so it's so obvious and so transparent what's going
Speaker 2: on that there is nothing that is is opaque. Here
Speaker 2: we see exactly what you guys are doing it and
Speaker 2: it's so obvious. Please uh, Peter, Uh, Well, actually this
Speaker 2: is miss Shorty's question. So basically, did you see bias?
Speaker 2: What's your opinion of Judge bev And and her rulings,
Speaker 2: et cetera?
Speaker 7: Absolutely an not echo what everybody else has said.
Speaker 9: And there were several times that what you just said
Speaker 9: a minute ago, DJ that it seemed like either of
Speaker 9: the two defense attorneys were on a roll. They were
Speaker 9: building momentum. It looked like they had the uh whoever
Speaker 9: it was under cross up against the ropes, and all
Speaker 9: of a sudden, guess what sidebar sidebar b a right, bah, sidebar, sidebar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Peter, we're getting the spirit baby, there
Speaker 2: you go. Yeah, right, But and then it was coming.
Speaker 9: There was controversy about the squeaky chair, like the square
Speaker 9: the chair started the squeak like, okay, mister llally, it's
Speaker 9: time to object. There was so many roomors going around
Speaker 9: the courtroom on the half dozen times or whatever as
Speaker 9: I sat in there, that you really really could get
Speaker 9: a read on on what the climate was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I can't say enough about her mas
Speaker 2: of media. Would you please present your topic, sir?
Speaker 5: Sure this one. I'm comment about Peter's remark, mister lay,
Speaker 5: would you like to object to that? That was insane?
Speaker 5: I was insane, absolutely.
Speaker 9: On the side note, I swished he had a red
Speaker 9: button and she pushed it for the fire department to come.
Speaker 5: By, right, seriously serious, there's a little button under our
Speaker 5: desk like at banks. You know, sets it off. Because
Speaker 5: a couple of first days of that trial, people were
Speaker 5: telling me that we're out there, that were out there,
Speaker 5: They said, like they would just drive by every single
Speaker 5: time the defense was getting ready to cross examine. It
Speaker 5: would just take place every single time out It was
Speaker 5: just nuts. It was all right, my topic is going
Speaker 5: to be uh to me. I truly feel that there's
Speaker 5: many ways that if you look at one piece of
Speaker 5: what went down, that you could prove Karen Reid's innocence
Speaker 5: For me, I always say my personal one is John
Speaker 5: o'keef's arm wounds. When you look at his arm, there's
Speaker 5: there's no doubt about it that there are animal Those
Speaker 5: are dog bites and claw marks on his arm, and
Speaker 5: they the Commonwealth want to say it though, that was
Speaker 5: shattered tail light that caused that. And Elijah Little even
Speaker 5: asked about how could smooth tail light create a goring effect,
Speaker 5: which basically means that your tail light would have had
Speaker 5: to have basically been ash arp is hell raiser's face two,
Speaker 5: you know Pinheads or whatever his name was, Pinhead, you know,
Speaker 5: to basically cause those kind of punctures. His arm was punctured,
Speaker 5: and we know that dog teeth are sharp, we know
Speaker 5: that claws are sharp. So basically my question is if
Speaker 5: it isn't tailight, and if it isn't dog wounds, then
Speaker 5: is there any way possible to explain what happened to
Speaker 5: his arms? So basically in theory, you know, just just
Speaker 5: tell us, you know, my question at the table is
Speaker 5: basically just just tell us how this could not be
Speaker 5: anything but a dog that was involved.
Speaker 2: And so this question, thank you veryon. I love this
Speaker 2: topic because there's I don't see a physical way, and
Speaker 2: the ARCA guys may actually try to recreate this with
Speaker 2: a dummy that has a skin where they could try
Speaker 2: to hit it with a like vehicle at twenty four
Speaker 2: miles an hour and see what happens. But before we
Speaker 2: get to that, I just want to see to Julie
Speaker 2: if you would. Julie, star some of these if you can.
Speaker 2: There's so the suv had teeth somebody put in here.
Speaker 2: This is great. Sorry, there's so many great questions here, Jules,
Speaker 2: Can you star some of them? We're gonna try to
Speaker 2: we we'd love to get to every single one. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get to the super chats and the ones that
Speaker 2: you star if you would, at the end of the show.
Speaker 2: But please, uh, special agent McDonough, what what what what
Speaker 2: do you make of that about the the the injuries
Speaker 2: on the arm, are they consistent with being hit by
Speaker 2: the taillight? Which you've done some independent research down there
Speaker 2: in Florida, so you know.
Speaker 1: Beyond the research that I did, it was his arm.
Speaker 1: The photos on that truck that they showed at court
Speaker 1: that day was the the fining moment for me early
Speaker 1: on in Okay that said no, there's no way and
Speaker 1: if you all remember, back in the early days, there
Speaker 1: was a gentleman by the name of Justin, Justin Ambersino,
Speaker 1: and he did a video. He did a couple of videos.
Speaker 1: He did the one where Karen's making a three point turn.
Speaker 1: He would have been on the opposite side that he
Speaker 1: couldn't hit him the way they saying. But he took
Speaker 1: a rack of ribs and started slamming of a tail light.
Speaker 1: He must have hit it at least a good ten
Speaker 1: twelve times before any damage happened to the tail light.
Speaker 1: Now we know, we know the tail light the car
Speaker 1: backing into an arm. There was absolutely no way an
Speaker 1: arm could ever sustain, could ever get enough force against
Speaker 1: a six thousand pound vehicle sixty eight hundred pound vehicle,
Speaker 1: even at any speed to crack it enough to scratch
Speaker 1: it around. But see, and I started thinking about this,
Speaker 1: that was the only option. Take that back. It's the
Speaker 1: only viable option of a theory they could go with
Speaker 1: to put out because they had to attack something. If
Speaker 1: they didn't tack the if they didn't say he was
Speaker 1: hit in the arm, they couldn't explain the iron arm injury.
Speaker 1: If they said he was hitting the body, well, he
Speaker 1: had no injuries to the body. Can't hit him in
Speaker 1: the head because he was going at twenty four miles
Speaker 1: an hour and they backed into his head, his head
Speaker 1: would be very damaged. Listen. The bottom line is he
Speaker 1: was never hit by the car. And the taillight project
Speaker 1: I made well. We proved that the tail light was
Speaker 1: still intact. But like the gentleman down the street here said, Sean,
Speaker 1: you have polycarbonate tail light. You have double shell, so
Speaker 1: the outer shell right protects the inner shell which has
Speaker 1: all the housing of the wires and the and the LEDs.
Speaker 1: He says, Sean, and I'm gonna tell you I quote unquote,
Speaker 1: he said, they smashed the.
Speaker 2: Shit out of that tail light with a hard object. Oh, hell,
Speaker 2: hard object, I mean, very no doubt well, an object
Speaker 2: that had no give. Yeah. And the problem, the problem
Speaker 2: for them is the human body has give right.
Speaker 1: And the thing is that it's physics. An object in
Speaker 1: motion tends to stay emotion. That's sixty eight hundred pound
Speaker 1: car would have toppled John, I mean the pirouette. He
Speaker 1: would have never he would have been down right then
Speaker 1: and there. And I said the other night, Sean Cabe said,
Speaker 1: And his theory was, oh, she ran him over and
Speaker 1: he got his cuts under the carriage because nobody knew
Speaker 1: the true results of the medical examiners the autopsy. Right
Speaker 1: the autopsy, he had nothing, no broken bone, no nothing,
Speaker 1: everything was above the neck. I've seen, Peter, who've seen cases,
Speaker 1: I've seen car acxes. I think we've probably all seen
Speaker 1: him on the side of the road. They're vicious. John
Speaker 1: was beat. He was not in a car accident. And
Speaker 1: that's it. And we know that the federal government put
Speaker 1: all their money, all the chips was on Karen and
Speaker 1: they spent five hundred thousand dollars to that ARCA company
Speaker 1: to show that she did not hit John with that car.
Speaker 1: And that's it. It's over. They'll never convict her.
Speaker 2: Ever, in order to make Kim move the distances that
Speaker 2: they said, you would have had to hit him center mass,
Speaker 2: center mass do Menchler explained it as the way that
Speaker 2: you would you would write, like a football player, you
Speaker 2: would have to hit the person where the hits are
Speaker 2: and drive. You know you know this, you know this, and.
Speaker 1: Peter knows this. Where do you shoot when you're gonna
Speaker 1: shoot someone?
Speaker 2: Uh soon in the chest, one to the head, yeah.
Speaker 1: Center mass, right, preferably right. But if you hit her now,
Speaker 1: the guy's not going down. You hit him in the
Speaker 1: hit him in the chest area, right, there's a reason
Speaker 1: for that, but that's where the all the organs are.
Speaker 1: But that's going to be the stopping power. Hit her
Speaker 1: now you're still moving. Yeah, listen, this is such an
Speaker 1: idiotic something that they did to make us leap in
Speaker 1: nine weeks seriously, nine weeks, ten weeks of this where
Speaker 1: Mike Breen knows that, he knows that Michael Breen knows that.
Speaker 2: So we did a whole episode on critical thinking. Uh
Speaker 2: that that that people lack critical thinking skills and something
Speaker 2: that used to be called there was a time in
Speaker 2: the English lexicon when we referred to something as common sense,
Speaker 2: and we've discovered that, Oh my god, it's not common
Speaker 2: So that's why people are in that situation. I think,
Speaker 2: Nurse Kim, is it your turn to hit up that
Speaker 2: or did we go all the way around?
Speaker 1: I think we went all around?
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 3: So I think just as a registered nurse, his injuries
Speaker 3: were the reason that I got involved in the case,
Speaker 3: and it brought my eyes that I just said, absolutely
Speaker 3: I had questions from that moment, But what I found
Speaker 3: very interesting about crash Daddy's testimony was that the area
Speaker 3: of the housing was six inches for Karen's tail light.
Speaker 3: An Officer O'Keefe had injuries from his upper his upper
Speaker 3: breakiel to his mid forearm over twelve inches of diameter.
Speaker 3: There is no way mathematically that a six inch impact
Speaker 3: could have resulted.
Speaker 8: Even with an explosion as was described.
Speaker 3: By troop of Paul Sure and the explosion him going
Speaker 3: with the vehicle for an additional five seconds.
Speaker 8: And then you know the forty five pieces of tragedy.
Speaker 3: It could not happen for your basic science principles, correct,
Speaker 3: So excuse me. That was for me the best part
Speaker 3: of the testimony to recognize the discrepancy in size and injuries.
Speaker 8: And the only other factor was.
Speaker 3: That, like we've said many times, guys, our arms are
Speaker 3: on hinges. There is no way, as you know, Sean as,
Speaker 3: Peter Murphy and dj as the military, you know that
Speaker 3: being hit in your arm, that it wasn't going to
Speaker 3: happen that way.
Speaker 8: It's not feasible and it was never a theory that
Speaker 8: should have.
Speaker 3: Been developed further by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they and to injure the arm. They would
Speaker 2: have had to for him to travel the distance, they
Speaker 2: would have had to hit the body and that's where
Speaker 2: we have the bruises and where we don't. We have
Speaker 2: the lack of bruising and broken bones. It would have
Speaker 2: just been the arm. And obviously it looks like a
Speaker 2: damn dog bite. People don't be stupid.
Speaker 1: Stop it.
Speaker 2: Don't talk to us like we're stupid, you know.
Speaker 3: I also would like to I'm so sorry, guys, but
Speaker 3: there is there is no There is no range in
Speaker 3: the depth of injuries, okay, and when you are looking,
Speaker 3: there should have been ones that were down to because
Speaker 3: if it was an initial impact that actually did explode
Speaker 3: the tail light, you would have had a deeper puncture
Speaker 3: wound correct from where the initial injury occurred and then
Speaker 3: it diffuses out going, you know, for lighter marks would
Speaker 3: have gone up the arm. Those marks were so uniform
Speaker 3: that would as a wound Nationally Wound Certified r N.
Speaker 8: Can I say it's a dog a dog mark?
Speaker 3: I can't say, because I don't do dog marks, you know,
Speaker 3: I only do human injuries, pressure trauma, etc. However, seeing
Speaker 3: those are the uniform linear patterns in which they presented
Speaker 3: on Officer O'Keefe's arms arm would give you the impression that.
Speaker 8: This was by one object multiple times.
Speaker 3: Okay, And it's going from from that, perhaps a bite
Speaker 3: pattern or a claw pattern could have provided and presented
Speaker 3: in that way on the skin. It would never have
Speaker 3: been from a blunt force trauma and then projectile to
Speaker 3: other areas on that extremity.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I just brought it up on my phone. I
Speaker 2: was going to send it to myself so I could
Speaker 2: display it on screen. Are you saying like that whole
Speaker 2: thing like where there's scratches and a dog's nails just
Speaker 2: happened to be side by side and then they go
Speaker 2: like that, so that that wouldn't be like a tail
Speaker 2: light that would have like scratched his arm.
Speaker 8: In your medical opinion was that the tail light does
Speaker 8: not shock.
Speaker 2: Ye, if it does not fit, you must have quit.
Speaker 2: There you go. This is the I know, so absurd
Speaker 2: people actually believe that. People go, oh, that looks like
Speaker 2: a tail light. It's like, dude, have you ever been
Speaker 2: bitten by a dog? If you ever had a bad
Speaker 2: day and had some dog run after you and before
Speaker 2: you could get on your bicycle anyway, have we gone
Speaker 2: I think you and and and miss Shorty of not
Speaker 2: so please go ahead.
Speaker 9: I don't If you're up, go ahead, okay, So I
Speaker 9: can I can contribute that. I have spoken to two
Speaker 9: professional canine trainers that work for police departments and have
Speaker 9: been in that position for a long long time. One
Speaker 9: of them, my guess, is qualified as an international certified expert,
Speaker 9: and both of them said that was those are bites
Speaker 9: and scratches by an untrained canine, no doubt about it, nothing,
Speaker 9: no other way can you explain that period And these
Speaker 9: people have testified in hundreds, if not thousands, of court
Speaker 9: cases where dogs they trained through another department in East
Speaker 9: Overshoe bit somebody and they brought these dog trainers in
Speaker 9: to talk about their training and what they how they
Speaker 9: trained the dog and a single bite latch on, they
Speaker 9: don't bite several times, they latch on once. I mean
Speaker 9: it was cotton dry. These guys said absolutely, And one
Speaker 9: of them wasn't even familiar the case.
Speaker 2: I said, what is this?
Speaker 7: What does this alumn look like?
Speaker 9: Untrained, nasty dog? And the other comment I'd make is
Speaker 9: if it was if it was something under the undercarriage theory,
Speaker 9: Sean knows And I think anybody knows, nurses, no, everybody
Speaker 9: knows that that body would have been mangled.
Speaker 7: There would have been fractures everywhere.
Speaker 9: And the snow would have indicated that the body had
Speaker 9: been dragged. If she was going six sixty two feet
Speaker 9: six and a half tons at twenty four miles an
Speaker 9: hour she didn't stop when she hit him, she would
Speaker 9: have gone over them and dragged them halfway up the street.
Speaker 7: It just flies in the face of reason.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, I can bring it up on screen real quick.
Speaker 2: Let me see if I can. I'm like Sean, I
Speaker 2: was struggle when I have to do this stupid, I
Speaker 2: have to do this thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the most archaic extreme yds archaic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and miss Shorty, if you've got you can,
Speaker 2: you can go ahead and tackle in and I'll try
Speaker 2: to get this up on screen within the next twenty
Speaker 2: seven minutes, exactly. Thank you.
Speaker 10: If there's, if there's, if it wasn't the Lexus, and
Speaker 10: if it wasn't Chloe, then maybe it was Jenn McCabe's tooth.
Speaker 2: Yes, snaggle, Miss Shody a shot from shots, but totally man,
Speaker 2: you're out of bounds, ma'am. General Cobb. Jen mccob no, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll be able to get it
Speaker 2: up on screen. I want to keep the flow going.
Speaker 2: But to me, I don't know, Peter, I think you're
Speaker 2: being unreasonable. It looks like a tail light hit that arm.
Speaker 5: I'm kiddos, why wouldn't it be a tail to come on?
Speaker 2: All? Right? In lieu of my question, Romy had one.
Speaker 2: Romy was absolutely U bless us with a gigantic forty
Speaker 2: nine ninety nine thing here. So let me let me
Speaker 2: bring this one up. We'll get to the rest of
Speaker 2: them before the end. But where here it is? Okay? Romy?
Speaker 2: Of is it romy and Michelle's wedding? I can't remember anyway?
Speaker 2: Kim so question about jok clothes, Why weren't his clothes
Speaker 2: put in a biohazard bag and sealed instead of drying
Speaker 2: the moat? See I try to add that xon in there.
Speaker 2: Is it typical to dry evidence items out before bagging them?
Speaker 2: It's something that always struck me as odd, beginning with
Speaker 2: beginning with Special Agent McDonough. Please, okay, so.
Speaker 1: You know we always bagged all the blood items, you know,
Speaker 1: from whatever evidence we collected. Now now drying it is
Speaker 1: fine as long as as long as the bag, as
Speaker 1: long as the evidence was preserved in the proper way,
Speaker 1: it's going to dry naturally. That's why we use bags
Speaker 1: because it's you know, they're porous, right, They're not not
Speaker 1: in a you know, a plastic container. Right, So you
Speaker 1: put it in a bag like like even for like
Speaker 1: rape kits, right, you put thee to say, you put
Speaker 1: the underwear in even the guys underwear or the bedsheets, whatever,
Speaker 1: you put them in bags. You preserve everything. The fact
Speaker 1: that they listen, I guarantee if the if the defense asked,
Speaker 1: what was the drawing to, I guarantee is somewhere in
Speaker 1: between the evidence room and the coffee machine. I guarantee
Speaker 1: there was no one preserving that evidence. And god, god
Speaker 1: knows how many people had access to that evidence, how
Speaker 1: many people could have touched that evidence, and there was
Speaker 1: just listen. They never thought they had to be accountable,
Speaker 1: and we got to make them accountable. Yes, uh, you
Speaker 1: use bags, but that's a great question. Use bags anything
Speaker 1: that allows the drying process naturally. Okay, stopping shop bag,
Speaker 1: I know that's what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what they use. I've heard the FBI
Speaker 2: where I live, that's what they used. Is they they
Speaker 2: also will use Walmart bags as stopping shop isn't available,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah.
Speaker 11: But but they'll stop shop preferred public They use publics down.
Speaker 2: Here, all right, Sergeant, I know publics is a bonus,
Speaker 2: Sergeant Peter Murphy. This next, this question goes to you
Speaker 2: as well, would they have dried in your opinion, when
Speaker 2: they have dried those clothing out before they put him
Speaker 2: uh and bag them is what Romy's asking. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much, Romy, I really appreciate you.
Speaker 9: I'll like what Sean said that it's conceivable or reasonable
Speaker 9: to conclude that they if they had a secure evidence room,
Speaker 9: that they could have spread the clothing out and locked
Speaker 9: the door so that nobody yelt's head access or watch
Speaker 9: by it. If it was in a pristine, uncompromised setting,
Speaker 9: drying it out necessarily wouldn't.
Speaker 7: Have been a bad thing. I mean, depending on how
Speaker 7: much moisture there was in it.
Speaker 9: They train you to put evidence that could be damp
Speaker 9: or laden with DNA or blood or something into a
Speaker 9: paper bag. That obviously encourage you not to put it
Speaker 9: in a plastic bag because that creates problems if you
Speaker 9: seal it, and as Sean said, if you leave it
Speaker 9: in a bag.
Speaker 7: It'll eventually dry itself out.
Speaker 9: I don't think it's contra indicated to put clothing on
Speaker 9: some sort of a pristine setting, but you've got to
Speaker 9: make sure that the item you place it on, whether
Speaker 9: it's a it's a hospital wrap that's been sanitized and
Speaker 9: nobody's touched it or whatever. You can't just throw it
Speaker 9: on a banquet table and say we'll be back in
Speaker 9: a couple of days.
Speaker 7: Let's go, let's go get coffee.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was going to say you might have been you
Speaker 2: know what, let's just throw it in the dryer. Put
Speaker 2: some dryer sheets in there. That shouldn't damage anything. So anyway, sorry,
Speaker 2: all right, so now we are done with the round table.
Speaker 2: Thank you Romy for that incredible blessing. The rest of
Speaker 2: the supercats all will be read. But now it's time
Speaker 2: for the free for all. So go ahead, homies man,
Speaker 2: throw it away, one to the other.
Speaker 1: No more organization, okay, nurse why nurse Kim, why don't
Speaker 1: you start us off?
Speaker 2: Free for all?
Speaker 8: No pressure, look at all? So I don't even know.
Speaker 8: Let's let's hit let's hit these solo cups everyone, and
Speaker 8: oh no, I'm putting it to Peter Murphy. Mister Murphy,
Speaker 8: could you please set us off with the chaos.
Speaker 7: Please please call me Peter. You make me feel, I
Speaker 7: don't know, overrated.
Speaker 9: When with the Mystic part in thirty years thirty five
Speaker 9: years on the job, I was called a lot worse
Speaker 9: than mister.
Speaker 7: So please just call me Peter. But what's what's the
Speaker 7: question you're to asking me? Please?
Speaker 2: I mean I'll throw I'll throw one at him. He wants,
Speaker 2: she wants you to start us off. I'll throw one
Speaker 2: at you, Peter. Something very very significant that happened was
Speaker 2: the what what the sort of testimony that you collected
Speaker 2: from Officer Wandless about removing the tail light, which never
Speaker 2: made it to trial. Do you think that and I
Speaker 2: asked this of Sean yesterday in a phone conversation, but
Speaker 2: do you do you think that you could be called
Speaker 2: to testify?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: To that?
Speaker 7: To that fact, I was surprised I wasn't on the
Speaker 7: first round. Actually yeah.
Speaker 9: And I've also got information, I don't know if the
Speaker 9: person is willing to come forward, that they had conversation
Speaker 9: with Officer Wandless after I did, and that it was
Speaker 9: confirmed that when he removed the tail light, the comment
Speaker 9: was made by him to this person who I would
Speaker 9: consider pretty solid. There was just a crack in the
Speaker 9: a single crack in the tail light, and a piece
Speaker 9: had imploded inside of the assembly.
Speaker 2: Oh so you mean it didn't produce jagged from hitting
Speaker 2: O'Keeffe's car. It didn't produce like jagged shards of tail
Speaker 2: light that would have like, I don't know, like cut
Speaker 2: up somebody's arm.
Speaker 7: Apparently not.
Speaker 2: I think was shocking.
Speaker 9: Sean's got the physics down. When that car made contact
Speaker 9: with the traverse, that polycomminate, I would say would have
Speaker 9: boded somewhat, but depending on the proximity and how far
Speaker 9: the force of gravity got into the other force or
Speaker 9: the other vehicle, it sounds to me like a bowed
Speaker 9: And the eyewitness that was told from the gentleman officer
Speaker 9: one was that there was a crack and that actually
Speaker 9: the comment that was made to me was she backed
Speaker 9: into something heavy and solid, meaning not soft tissue.
Speaker 2: Wow. I would have thought like you'd see like jagged
Speaker 2: pieces of polycarbonate that could have like look like dog
Speaker 2: scratches and bites on someone's arm. Well, I'm really surprised.
Speaker 9: The twenty one Lexus has a recall on on biting
Speaker 9: tail lights.
Speaker 5: You'll have to bring you get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta have Karen call Lexus and and get
Speaker 2: that because we got to get the car and we
Speaker 2: got to get it out of Canton, out of the
Speaker 2: sally Port where.
Speaker 10: Other works for Lexus. Did you know that fun fact what.
Speaker 2: Your brother does Karen's brother what? Yes, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: we got to get him. Yeah, but they're gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's a he's an interested party. You know, he's he's biased,
Speaker 2: so we can't use him. All right, let's go with
Speaker 2: some super chat if anybody well, First of all, Sean
Speaker 2: had some breaking news that he announced backstage. Did you
Speaker 2: want to reiterate that?
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 2: The audience shun Please go ahead, sir.
Speaker 1: So for for some of the people, I think there's
Speaker 1: a few little u roamors here, like Joe bi mofos.
Speaker 1: We're all good mofos, but Joe and this other guy,
Speaker 1: I don't know who they're trying to bounce out of here.
Speaker 1: But for those who think God that the FBI are done,
Speaker 1: they're not done. I had word today and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm going to triple verify it. Right coming off the
Speaker 1: streets of Boston today from a very reliable source. The FBI,
Speaker 1: in fact, has seized the tools that were directly used
Speaker 1: in the demolition of sas at thirty four Fairview.
Speaker 2: I don't have.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I don't have any more details other other than that. However,
Speaker 1: I do have another source that's going to get other
Speaker 1: information on it. But yeah, that's that's very encouraging. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you then, then not off this case. It's
Speaker 1: a huge, huge case. And it's just not only John,
Speaker 1: it's Birch, it's a lot of different things. It's all
Speaker 1: public corruption and we know now, we now know that
Speaker 1: the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice is
Speaker 1: heavy involved, and that means one thing for Karen Reid.
Speaker 1: Those three seventy four pages contain exculpatory evidence that they
Speaker 1: withhold without from her. That's all civil rights violations, and
Speaker 1: that's going to be a heavy toe to encounter for
Speaker 1: these people. And I can tell you right now from
Speaker 1: a couple of people I've known but on the hit
Speaker 1: list for the DJ Civil Rights Division, you don't want
Speaker 1: to be under their scope. And that's all I gotta say.
Speaker 2: Can I get it? Amen?
Speaker 1: You got it?
Speaker 2: All right? We're all going to read super chats beginning
Speaker 2: with Mark Mas and media and going counterclockwise because look,
Speaker 2: get us rebels that we are there.
Speaker 5: We go, all right, the Pilgrim Shadow, very familiar with
Speaker 5: that name. I hope you're doing well. Good evening. My
Speaker 5: Cadine is patrolling the perimeter for Annie Mcalbert's or mccaves
Speaker 5: that are lurking eyes in the sky. Pause on the ground.
Speaker 5: I think we read that one earlier.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe we did. I'm sorry, okay, give me
Speaker 2: all right. This one, well, no, this one's going to
Speaker 2: Miss Shorty right here. Can you say this one?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 2: The man?
Speaker 8: Yes, amen, hey man.
Speaker 2: Thank you all right. This one is going to none
Speaker 2: other than one of the big major mofos, Peter Murphy.
Speaker 7: Oh amazing group of mofos. Thank you, thanks from everybody
Speaker 7: on that one.
Speaker 2: All right, Nurse Kim.
Speaker 8: John comoheih, Miss Shorty.
Speaker 1: Cave Man nineteen ninety nine, Thank you, cave Man. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a great show.
Speaker 2: A lot of love, a lot of love to you.
Speaker 2: Thank you for supporting these round tables and for showing up.
Speaker 2: We really we love everyone, whether you have the bandwidth
Speaker 2: or not, we love every one of you for showing
Speaker 2: up and we really really do appreciate it. You don't
Speaker 2: have to contribute anything. We're just happy that you're here.
Speaker 2: If you've got the band with great, If you don't,
Speaker 2: we love you all right, okay, okay, hey all loved
Speaker 2: all and nice to meet you. DJ Happy Saturday. And
Speaker 2: this is from I Might need myles is on this
Speaker 2: Glamorous Glamor suits. All right, there you go, all right,
Speaker 2: Kim's getting in the spirit. Now we're gonna let set
Speaker 2: on run away with this damn thing, all right, Masive Media.
Speaker 5: Stacey Face Travels nine nine super Chat. If you can't
Speaker 5: stand for something, you will fall for anything. Free Karen Reid.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you, Thank you girl. All right. Next, this
Speaker 2: one is just a great panel from Oh She's Always
Speaker 2: Please pass the pepper.
Speaker 1: Pepper, thank you.
Speaker 2: This one is for our friend miss Shatti.
Speaker 10: Oh again Caveman with four thank you. The only problem
Speaker 10: they would have if they would have took her at
Speaker 10: six o four then there was no tail light. They
Speaker 10: need to plant it after they got the car from
Speaker 10: Darton Nick Barris.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Oh Caveman is just doing it.
Speaker 2: So Sergeant Murphy.
Speaker 9: Cave Man again, who mixes Jamison with Ginger Ale Higgins
Speaker 9: a loser, Sean bring On fat Brian Albert, Jenn McCabe
Speaker 9: is the is the a loser and Colin is a
Speaker 9: punk that that covers a lot, That covers a lot
Speaker 9: of the players.
Speaker 2: I guess true statements one and all. Okay, man, thanks.
Speaker 7: All of the abuts.
Speaker 2: Thank you man. With all the security training I did today,
Speaker 2: I lost even more hair.
Speaker 10: Job.
Speaker 2: Okay, Kim, this one's for you.
Speaker 8: Okay, I gotta know.
Speaker 3: Give two dollars and said, awesome group of true crime
Speaker 3: alive and in chat.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, there are some total gez. Thank you
Speaker 2: to everybody in chat. Thank you Jules for doing what
Speaker 2: you'd be doing. This one is for none other than
Speaker 2: a guy who appears to be making hey today while
Speaker 2: the sun is shining. Sean McDonough LT.
Speaker 1: Thirty three five dollars, Thank you, LT. Underrated testimony. Lieutenant
Speaker 1: Harrock testified thirteen. Search ended when the Telly and when
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Tully was convinced they had found everything they were
Speaker 1: going to find. LT. Thirty three That is an app incredible,
Speaker 1: incredible fine right there, beautiful beautiful ty.
Speaker 2: Thank you, LT. I appreciate that you may be a
Speaker 2: law enforcement officer yourself, and thank you so much if
Speaker 2: you are, for what you're doing. This one goes to
Speaker 2: Mark Mas of media, who's about to go go ape on? Uh,
Speaker 2: let's see cash App and Venmo. You better take those
Speaker 2: people off his damn name. There's only one mass of
Speaker 2: media recognized.
Speaker 5: Right, that's right, exactly, Thank you, DJ, I appreciate this.
Speaker 5: This super chatt is from Trevor Maverick. Everyone assumes a
Speaker 5: pick of tail. It wasn't ever taken, But what if
Speaker 5: one was taken and later discarded because they knew it
Speaker 5: wouldn't cut it?
Speaker 2: Anybody on the panels for that one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good, that's awesome, that's great.
Speaker 2: Yep. We've said during other panels that everything that was
Speaker 2: organic is basically that that just is his favoring Karen
Speaker 2: Reid and everything that is, everything that's sculled, but Tory
Speaker 2: and everything that it seems that points against her had
Speaker 2: to be manufactured and synthetic, man made in one way
Speaker 2: or the other. So and maybe in Helena Raffres case,
Speaker 2: woman made for all I know. Okay, this is from
Speaker 2: I want to say this with my New York accident.
Speaker 2: Hey Glara, Hey doing Glearra. I like your show, That's
Speaker 2: what I want to say. So thank you so much, Glaire.
Speaker 2: I do watch you. I really dig your show, and
Speaker 2: I would also like to have you on one of
Speaker 2: these panels because we got to do something for Sandra Birchmore.
Speaker 2: Peter and I spent a significant amount of time the
Speaker 2: other day talking about Missy coming up and Sandra Birchmore,
Speaker 2: and we have to do a roundtable for Sandra Birchmore
Speaker 2: because most of the oxygen in the room is being
Speaker 2: consumed by Karen Reid. But Sandra Birchmore is an even
Speaker 2: more aggrieved party, if you will, than is Karen Reid.
Speaker 2: Uh And I know you guys are covering it on
Speaker 2: your shows, but just we just need more, you know,
Speaker 2: we just need more, right even though the FBI may
Speaker 2: have gotten on to Karen Reid from Sandra Birchmore. Okay,
Speaker 2: cave Man, you are such a blessing. I can't thank
Speaker 2: you enough. This one goes to who's the next one
Speaker 2: to read? Is it? Misshadi? Yeah?
Speaker 10: My glasses. I need to get your glasses. Okay cave
Speaker 10: Man again and always giver thank you. Question why would
Speaker 10: Jen Mcalbert called John's phone seven times within twenty minutes,
Speaker 10: only one reason. No one can think of looking for
Speaker 10: his phone after they beat him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, yeah, is that it okay? It looks like
Speaker 2: the panel are nodding their heads in agreement on that
Speaker 2: this is just a yes, ma'am.
Speaker 10: They weren't but dials.
Speaker 2: No, no, Well, I mean, wasn't a buttle conversation with
Speaker 2: with Higgins and Albert. So it is possible to butt
Speaker 2: dial answer and then butt d'll hang up and have
Speaker 2: a conversation while Brian Albert is drunk and having Well,
Speaker 2: I don't want to go any further on that one.
Speaker 2: It can get a little groady, thank you, happy popup,
Speaker 2: Happy pop mama, because we got Mike isn't here the
Speaker 2: dog Father. I'm gonna send him pictures of my dogs
Speaker 2: because I'm such a fan. And I also have three cats,
Speaker 2: so me and me and Masar are cool like that man.
Speaker 2: So my my three are the Tiger, the Bobcat, and
Speaker 2: the Black Panther. So those aren't their names, but those
Speaker 2: are their nicknames, all right, reality check who wants to
Speaker 2: I think she's trying to connect with Nurse Kim or
Speaker 2: Miss Shorty. I can't Remember who's reading this one.
Speaker 8: Remember, oh, I'm going Yes, it's it's me and a
Speaker 8: real reality check. Nurse Kim.
Speaker 3: I saw your invitation and I would like to chat
Speaker 3: with you when you're in Health Carolina, reach reach out
Speaker 3: to me on there.
Speaker 8: I will Okay, I'm going I'll be gone for a week.
Speaker 2: So yes, and if we're staying with a proper accident
Speaker 2: at South Carolina. Right is near an R and the
Speaker 2: Andrew Thank you, thank you, Sean. This one I picked out.
Speaker 2: Would you read this one from Lisa Lee?
Speaker 1: I will Lisa Lee? Just the fact Chloe live on
Speaker 1: a property for seven years as DNA was all over
Speaker 1: that yard. So why done on John?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 1: Why done on John? Putting the bites to the side.
Speaker 2: Man, I mean, I mean, if you're not investigating the
Speaker 2: house right, then nothing nothing is collected. There's nothing collected
Speaker 2: from from the from the premises other than what was again,
Speaker 2: what would be indicative of the culprit being Karen Reid
Speaker 2: and anything that could have been a Sculpttory don't want
Speaker 2: to see bla la la la la. We don't want
Speaker 2: to talk to the plow driver, don't want to know
Speaker 2: who he is, even though apparently Jackson's a private investor.
Speaker 2: Unti's private investigator found that guy. So anything exculpatory, we don't. Sorry,
Speaker 2: we're not interested.
Speaker 9: This one.
Speaker 2: Uh okay, we already did that one. Okay. This one
Speaker 2: goes to me and it is Leah Baker. It's always
Speaker 2: semantics with this crew, never taking Chloe. Maybe it was
Speaker 2: Caitlin Tristan got legal advice from family. I think we
Speaker 2: covered that one way earlier, so forgive me. But the panel,
Speaker 2: who is more knowledgeable on these aspects, weighed in on that.
Speaker 9: Lee.
Speaker 2: I hope that that was satiating for you. And this
Speaker 2: one is from ask Blob. This one goes to my
Speaker 2: man Mark Maza Media.
Speaker 5: All right, asked Bob, asked question for Sean. I already asked, Masa.
Speaker 5: Do you think those most pos Berkowitz and Rafferty will
Speaker 5: ever face justice? There's they seem to be teflon under
Speaker 5: any radar.
Speaker 2: I think both.
Speaker 1: I think one or both of them will, That's what
Speaker 1: I think. I don't see how Burkewoods can't. Maybe Helena
Speaker 1: all depends on those wire tasks, but definitely Burkewitz.
Speaker 2: Wow, there you go. That's that's that's pretty strong. Miss Surety.
Speaker 2: I think we finally have one for you that isn't Caveman,
Speaker 2: And thank you Caveman for being so awesome that we
Speaker 2: did call you name a bunch of times.
Speaker 10: Yes, five dollars from Glamor. Sus Hey, sus. No one
Speaker 10: has made a claim against any of Karen's insurance policies
Speaker 10: because insurance companies investigate thoroughly. There is a good reason why.
Speaker 2: That is a great point. Yeah, that is a great point.
Speaker 2: They're not paying out any money. Yes, please.
Speaker 10: And in the jurors that Aiden interviewed with the Jura,
Speaker 10: and they assumed that Aka was she that Duror I
Speaker 10: said that they assumed that ACA was was called by
Speaker 10: by the insurance companies, by Karents Insurance Company. It was
Speaker 10: that the ambiguity was so strong there and that was
Speaker 10: what the inference they drew, which was obviously wrong, but
Speaker 10: it's an interesting one.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, they would have paid out less
Speaker 2: money on a claim than they would have paid ARCA,
Speaker 2: So that was that would be pretty dumb on their part. Uh. Anyway,
Speaker 2: all right, let's see, just have a few more left.
Speaker 2: This goes to Peter Murphy.
Speaker 9: Okay, I can only see parts of this, So if
Speaker 9: there's a money issue there.
Speaker 7: I'm going to Okay, thank you for that. I gotta
Speaker 7: I gotta know. Can k O drive leave town?
Speaker 2: Is she held? I mean I think she means KR. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think she.
Speaker 7: Means KR right.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know what.
Speaker 7: I don't know what her restrictions are right now. I
Speaker 7: think she has to either notify somebody or she may
Speaker 7: be restricted to stay in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: I don't know that she can't drive.
Speaker 8: Excuse me, I'm I'm so sorry, guys, bless you, Peppa. Okay,
Speaker 8: how do you spell that p p A right?
Speaker 7: Pepa?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 2: Can it come back?
Speaker 8: She's trying to try and rally the troops, babe.
Speaker 3: So I was under the impression I don't quote me though,
Speaker 3: Is that clearly as mister McDonough said that she she
Speaker 3: does not have her license currently, but that she she
Speaker 3: could go, you know, to Florida or any you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 8: Like, I don't think that she has a restriction to Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Interesting, that's interesting. But she doesn't have a license, and
Speaker 2: she doesn't have a car, and she doesn't have a job,
Speaker 2: which is what is so debilitating for her and what's
Speaker 2: so absurd. Uh, this one goes to Nurse Kim.
Speaker 8: Standing Stone seventy seventeen seventy six. I love it. Do
Speaker 8: you think Chief Rafferty came in sally Port when kite
Speaker 8: was breaking?
Speaker 3: That's why she like three sixty? Well, light was when
Speaker 3: light was breaking. That's that's why she did a three
Speaker 3: sixty with.
Speaker 2: The good question.
Speaker 1: We got her on video.
Speaker 2: The only thing I would say is why would they
Speaker 2: then why would they have Wadless remove the tail light
Speaker 2: if they were going to break it when it was
Speaker 2: on the cap?
Speaker 1: Well, I'll take that all right. So what Wallace did,
Speaker 1: Wallace came several days later. Okay, what Wallace did was
Speaker 1: not a problem, not at all. Really, they had every
Speaker 1: reason to take that tail light, okay, because it was processed.
Speaker 1: What the problem, like Peter knows, the problem about what
Speaker 1: Wareless did was the fact that he did not exist
Speaker 1: on any report by the state Police. And when you
Speaker 1: take it, when you touch evidence, that's why I keep
Speaker 1: my hands behind my back. Oh you'll get this, you'll
Speaker 1: understand this. DJ. You know those red envelopes that have
Speaker 1: classified documents right behind my touching ship, buddy, I'm not
Speaker 1: touching any of that stuff. Same with evidence. You touch
Speaker 1: that evidence you have to be responsible for that evidence.
Speaker 1: You're going to be on a chain of custody. And
Speaker 1: he was not on the chain of custody. And that
Speaker 1: was the issue that Peter and so were they trying
Speaker 1: to hide the ball? And as it turns out it was.
Speaker 1: It was enough a burger for anyone because it didn't matter. Listen,
Speaker 1: car cam Reid put on six witnesses, only six, and
Speaker 1: they still couldn't convict her. He could have taken off
Speaker 1: a thousand tail lights. It didn't matter to them. So
Speaker 1: but in the early, in the early parts of this investigation,
Speaker 1: to us, it was huge because what are they trying
Speaker 1: to conceal? And that was the thing with Peter was
Speaker 1: golden on that. But the problem was what he did
Speaker 1: was no problem. It's what Procter and those other people
Speaker 1: did by not including him on the custody of evidence,
Speaker 1: the chain of custody.
Speaker 2: Would you please refer to them as mofo's for the
Speaker 2: balance of.
Speaker 5: The better about that myself, DJ, thank.
Speaker 2: You, thank you brother. We're all we're all in unison
Speaker 2: on this. Sean, could you read this one?
Speaker 1: Yes? Jay one Justice nineteen ninety nine, Thank you, j Justice,
Speaker 1: Justice for Karen Reid is justice for all of us,
Speaker 1: that's true. Proctor Fanning Buchanic conducted a thirty day investigation
Speaker 1: into the most egregious shooting. I'm sorry, it's the agregious
Speaker 1: shooting of Justin Root, Norfolk, DA. And these investigators need
Speaker 1: to go need to go to jail in j one justice.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you some of them are going to go
Speaker 1: to jail, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hope, so, I really hope. So again,
Speaker 2: you really, as a human being, you really don't like
Speaker 2: to celebrate when something bad happens to another human being.
Speaker 2: But in this case, they are trying to force this
Speaker 2: woman into jail. And if you don't like her demeanor
Speaker 2: and you don't like the way that she screams at
Speaker 2: John O'Keefe and in Arroba or in other public places,
Speaker 2: that's fine. She's You know, all of us are entitled
Speaker 2: our bad moments. I've heard Kim say it. You know,
Speaker 2: my wife and I've yelled at each other and called
Speaker 2: each other names, and we love each other and we
Speaker 2: would never leave one another. So these things happen, you know,
Speaker 2: in relationships. It doesn't unit someone wanted to commit murder, Yes.
Speaker 5: Sir, did you guys ever call each other mofo's during
Speaker 5: any of those arguments.
Speaker 2: No, but I'm gonna teach her that word. My wife is,
Speaker 2: you know, speaks She's Brazilian, she speaks broken English. I'll
Speaker 2: teach her the word mofo and I'll see if we
Speaker 2: would like to hear you go where are you doing?
Speaker 2: You're stupid the guy I tell you no, do no
Speaker 2: parking place, No has no puck, you know, like she
Speaker 2: she yelled at me the other day because I got
Speaker 2: a ticket on base. Anyway, misadvent, She's a wonderful human being.
Speaker 2: I love her. Misadventures, misadventures book mouse. Just realize Chloe
Speaker 2: texting and.
Speaker 8: She was on the beach, Earlie, and now she's back
Speaker 8: in the car. I mean, she's a traveling girl.
Speaker 2: I can't get over that.
Speaker 1: I love it one.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, all right, this one is going to
Speaker 2: mark me. I'm sorry. We're getting through these. We're getting
Speaker 2: near the end, guys, and if you have to go,
Speaker 2: I can get rid to get everybody out of here,
Speaker 2: and I can read the rest of these. I don't
Speaker 2: want to keep you. I mean, we have like twelve
Speaker 2: minutes to reach the two hour mark, and I don't
Speaker 2: want to keep you a second longer. Go ahead, Mark,
Speaker 2: please sure?
Speaker 5: Next super chats from mystery singer Procter and Kevin Albert
Speaker 5: being suspended as just the beginning. FBI has a twenty
Speaker 5: year investigation on Canton and Stoton's police departments. They will
Speaker 5: indict the Alberts and Proctor with their three thousand and
Speaker 5: seventy three seventy four report on Reid and Birch Moore.
Speaker 5: I thought about Sean, thought about you, Sean, just as
Speaker 5: I was writing this. So I'm like, yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you where my mind went Sean? Because
Speaker 2: I know you're a music guy. Only the beginning, So
Speaker 2: thinking about that song Beginnings from Chicago. Don't love that song?
Speaker 2: And you're you're a musician. Are you a musician? I am?
Speaker 2: That is so we need to have a Karen Reid band.
Speaker 2: We can get you, Mike. We need a drummer. I
Speaker 2: mean I can, oh, yes, baby, and miss Shorty are
Speaker 2: you a musician as well? I can see awesome?
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 2: I can play the drums, not all that well, Peter,
Speaker 2: are you playing any instruments?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 7: I could be the conductor.
Speaker 9: I think what what possibly we could consider is either
Speaker 9: when this comes to a comes to the end, we
Speaker 9: could bring everybody that's in the round table and some
Speaker 9: of the other people that you would want to bring
Speaker 9: in and we could see if we could you know,
Speaker 9: audition or do a live show at either the West
Speaker 9: or the Hillside.
Speaker 8: Perfect were the band finally will not what the band was,
Speaker 8: it was us.
Speaker 2: There you go see the f k R band. We
Speaker 2: will be holding live auditions. We need a drummer, we
Speaker 2: need a bass player, and we could have because I
Speaker 2: think Mike plays guitar, masa. Are you playing any instruments?
Speaker 2: I can?
Speaker 5: I can sing a little bit, that's about it. Maybe
Speaker 5: be a bodyguard or a bouncer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a baritone you are.
Speaker 1: I mean you can be the front of house for us.
Speaker 1: You could be the front of house. You can do
Speaker 1: the lighting and the and the sound from the front
Speaker 1: of house.
Speaker 2: Always a big he has a big media voice. Man.
Speaker 2: He should be on like major media man. Jesus, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 10: Oh yes, Mass is our voice steady?
Speaker 2: When we in.
Speaker 10: I always put his voice steady?
Speaker 2: Okay, uh could you read this one, miss Shady?
Speaker 10: Is it not the same one as the last one?
Speaker 2: I feel like it is it is the same one. Okay,
Speaker 2: let me go to the next one.
Speaker 10: Okay, so j one Justice, I can't see the dollars
Speaker 10: there either. Is that just a question? Norfolk d yes? Okay?
Speaker 10: So Norfolk da hung Justin Justin's bloody clothes on?
Speaker 2: Hang it.
Speaker 10: When Fanny was asked why Roots ship it was not
Speaker 10: that bloody, he responded that it could have been dry cleaned.
Speaker 2: Say what, I don't know the Justin Root case. So
Speaker 2: you'll have to forgive me on that. I'm not smarter
Speaker 2: in that. I don't know if anybody is, but I
Speaker 2: guess this.
Speaker 1: He it real quick, Yeah, take five minutes right Justin.
Speaker 1: You know, he was living in that appen my all
Speaker 1: little stomping grounds, and he had some he had some
Speaker 1: mental health issues. So he ended up going downtown Boston
Speaker 1: to where she's talk Tom Flemings in the house.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: He went to a hospital downtown Boston, and he had
Speaker 1: gotten to a little skirmish with the with the guards.
Speaker 1: Someone said he had a gun, Well, he had a
Speaker 1: plastic gun, a toy gun bb gun, and there was
Speaker 1: a shootout. The cops shot at him and missed him
Speaker 1: hit another cop. He get into a car. There was
Speaker 1: a high speed chase and went into Brookline. He crashed,
Speaker 1: gets out of the car, and the end the story
Speaker 1: is he got blasted. I feel awful thirty thirty two
Speaker 1: to thirty three times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and just for having the toy gun. Is
Speaker 2: that essentially what it is? You know?
Speaker 1: Like I said, I mean they were they were very
Speaker 1: Robin Bailey, Yeah, out of Pans Angeles. They were very Listen.
Speaker 1: I heard the radio dispatch, you know, the shots fired. Uh,
Speaker 1: police officer down, man down, So that gets everyone high strung,
Speaker 1: high charge. And then right before the cops got on
Speaker 1: the scene, there was a first responder like nurse or
Speaker 1: doctor or maybe off to the police officer that came
Speaker 1: to his aid because he got out of the car
Speaker 1: and he stumbled. I saw the whole thing. I've been
Speaker 1: I've been really looking at this, and it's it's under
Speaker 1: the DA Okay. The problem is when you have a
Speaker 1: big chase like that and it's pumped up, one guy fires,
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, you know how it goes.
Speaker 1: And I think there was some crossfire, but he clearly
Speaker 1: didn't shoot anyone because he had an inoperable gun. So sad,
Speaker 1: very very sad, very sad. Case. And like I said, now,
Speaker 1: on the contrary, one quick thing, we had a DEA
Speaker 1: agent Miami and he shot many times at these bad guys. Right,
Speaker 1: So he was on the stand and one of the
Speaker 1: defense attorney goes, agent White, why did you shoot my
Speaker 1: client twenty two times? He says, because I ran out
Speaker 1: of bullets.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if he had more bullets, he would
Speaker 1: have shot more because he was under fire himself. So anyways,
Speaker 1: like those two people got that must be too late,
Speaker 1: he says, because I had I ran out of bullets.
Speaker 2: No, I totally got that, man, I totally got that.
Speaker 2: I've heard that a number of.
Speaker 1: Times several officers. You know, It's just it's a tough case.
Speaker 1: It is a tough case. I feel bad for the
Speaker 1: root family, but I'd like to do a deeper dive
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: I really would, And thank thank you for bringing that up,
Speaker 2: because we'd be happy to If John's happy to tackle it.
Speaker 2: I think there's seven or all of the rest that
Speaker 2: are also happy to tackle him. By the way, I
Speaker 2: think the next one in this panel that's probably going
Speaker 2: to go to law school is probably gonna be nurse Kim. Anyway,
Speaker 2: where's the blood, great wealth, Peter and three leaders of blood.
Speaker 2: Where is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well guess what God knows what they found downstairs
Speaker 1: in the basement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a whole bunch of Yeah. I prayed that they did.
Speaker 2: I pray that someone found a little bit of John's
Speaker 2: blood down there and then the case is over. So Lally,
Speaker 2: first of all, Gina g thank you so much for
Speaker 2: the fiver. Lanley lost a twenty seventeen trial of Yang
Speaker 2: Long Chow and Bev was the presiding judge. Is anyone
Speaker 2: familiar with that case? No, okay not it is surprising,
Speaker 2: but I still I don't sorry, find some buyas there,
Speaker 2: Janelle Grace, the all staff panel needs app no once
Speaker 2: a week. We can't do this. It's too much band within,
Speaker 2: too much energy. But we will do another one. And
Speaker 2: the next one is going to be Sander Birch Moore
Speaker 2: for sure. And I've talked to Missy and and Anita
Speaker 2: Dave on that show to.
Speaker 3: DJ if you can my day of Dave Cullin, I
Speaker 3: would love to. He produced the case to season two
Speaker 3: from Bostool Sports.
Speaker 8: On on Sandra.
Speaker 2: That was amazing. That was amazing. Yeah, okay, So I
Speaker 2: will coordinate with you for Dave I know Peter is
Speaker 2: going to be on it, and Missy is going to
Speaker 2: be on it, and I just want to get like
Speaker 2: she's amazing that the so the when this girl speaks
Speaker 2: about Sandra birchmore to me as as somebody who considers
Speaker 2: himself a little bit of an EmPATH, she's fighting back
Speaker 2: tears every single time she talks about that case. She's
Speaker 2: fighting back real tears over the loss of that girl
Speaker 2: and her baby. And that should strike all of you
Speaker 2: what a wonderful human being she is. And Peter shared
Speaker 2: some other some other things. Would me that even gives
Speaker 2: me additional respect for Missy.
Speaker 9: Right, just as a point of info too, She's got
Speaker 9: to stand out organized tomorrow from I want to say,
Speaker 9: two to two to five, perhaps in Canton.
Speaker 7: For Sandra.
Speaker 9: Yes, in front of the town in front of the
Speaker 9: Canton town Hall. And as I think it's been mentioned
Speaker 9: to this group, and I think we are aware of
Speaker 9: it at least this circle.
Speaker 7: Uh, the both cases.
Speaker 9: I think Sean's indicated comment on both both cases, I
Speaker 9: joined at the hip as far as a lot of
Speaker 9: the investigators and obviously the DA's office, the troopers.
Speaker 7: Both decedents were in the town of Canton.
Speaker 9: So tomorrow is going to be a pretty significant day,
Speaker 9: and Missy travels a long distance to make these standouts
Speaker 9: for herself.
Speaker 10: Thank you, Missy.
Speaker 1: Just spit a comment. Can I make a comment real quick, please, sir.
Speaker 1: I just want to tell Tom Flanney, I'm taking my
Speaker 1: plane up to Pensacola tomorrow. If you'd like to meet me,
Speaker 1: I could, or I could fly up and pick you up.
Speaker 1: Do you want to meet in Pensacola? Tom?
Speaker 7: What are we doing?
Speaker 1: It's a private joke, that's all private.
Speaker 8: I love it, all right, Tommy, Tommy boy.
Speaker 2: Yes, ironically, there were no Cala pieces found in solo cups.
Speaker 2: I mean, you'd have thought the backpack blower would have
Speaker 2: blown them all the way over to keller Her lawn.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't know what the hell happened,
Speaker 2: But I would always think that police officers would go
Speaker 2: to a scene with a backpack blower because certainly none
Speaker 2: of the evidence would be disturbed by that. I don't
Speaker 2: think so, you know, I didn't go to detective school.
Speaker 2: But all right, there's only one person on this panel
Speaker 2: qualified to read this one right here, and it is,
Speaker 2: of course, Nurse kim.
Speaker 3: Oh Mindy gives four ninety nine. Thank you so much, Mindy.
Speaker 3: Can we get a a Giannifer Murcay from us smart
Speaker 3: your pretty best friend from out of town.
Speaker 8: I love your face, Mandy.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: This one right here, Thank you very much. Jenny Caswell Hall,
Speaker 2: great panel. Caring is factually innocent. And you know that
Speaker 2: last couple here, Kelly Reid in that.
Speaker 4: Kelly Kelly.
Speaker 8: Kell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Sean on this one.
Speaker 1: Kelly Reid for Hi, everyone, great show, great panel. Justice
Speaker 1: is coming.
Speaker 5: Hey man, Karen Reid.
Speaker 2: Good to meet you, Miss Kelly Reid. I've never had
Speaker 2: you in our chat before and it's an honor that
Speaker 2: you're here and we're hoping that we can find justice
Speaker 2: for your sister. This one right here to Mesa all right?
Speaker 5: Oh, Christopher Borrow, never heard of him, Never heard of him.
Speaker 5: I don't know who this guy is. But great panel.
Speaker 2: I love you guys.
Speaker 5: International Standout Labor Day. Check the sites for check the
Speaker 5: site for details. That's free. Karen Reids Standouts dot Com
Speaker 5: again free, Aaron Reid Standouts dot Com. Also I should
Speaker 5: note the just checked that list, but there's a tab
Speaker 5: right at the top right. It's a Standout let's click
Speaker 5: on that and you can find out all the local
Speaker 5: standouts that are occurring tomorrow and in the future as well.
Speaker 5: They're updating that that website frequently here, so it's gonna
Speaker 5: be great. Paul is a great man, and he's been
Speaker 5: working tirelessly with the media, a lot of media relations
Speaker 5: don contacting the news outlets, letting them know about our standouts,
Speaker 5: letting them know about what we're doing as a as
Speaker 5: a a group large group of supporters of Karen Reid.
Speaker 5: So hats off to Paul, you're the man. Kelly Reid,
Speaker 5: shout out to you as well.
Speaker 2: All right, Can I get on all right this one?
Speaker 10: Before we move on, can I just say with regards
Speaker 10: to standouts, because we have two dot people in the
Speaker 10: chat here, I'm actually myself and a couple of other
Speaker 10: Aussies are organizing nationwide. Free can read stand out on Sunday,
Speaker 10: September September the first, So next Sunday, there's one already
Speaker 10: in Melbourne at ten am already organized.
Speaker 8: That's me.
Speaker 10: There's a Hobart standout which is in Tasmania, the capital
Speaker 10: city of Tasmania ten am. Also the details for meeting
Speaker 10: points for both are on that Standout website, so have
Speaker 10: a look. But if there's anybody in Australia who lives
Speaker 10: in any of the other capital cities that a year
Speaker 10: now in the chat or replay crew.
Speaker 7: Love you.
Speaker 10: Sydney, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide, Canberra. We'd love to make this
Speaker 10: a nationwide thing at the same time, Sunday, the first
Speaker 10: of September at ten am. Easy peasy. I've got my
Speaker 10: paints and cardboard ready to make my signs later after
Speaker 10: this live has ended, signs. And I just think we
Speaker 10: should really know, like we're all here watching stras were
Speaker 10: very much invested in this case and in Karen Reid's
Speaker 10: innocence and in you know, shining a light on the corruption.
Speaker 10: Australians hate corruption and they always go for the underdogs.
Speaker 10: So if anybody would like to be a representative in
Speaker 10: their couple of city or come along to either of
Speaker 10: the existing standouts next Sunday, ten am, yep, dm me
Speaker 10: on Twitter or email me. My email is on my channel.
Speaker 2: So I just want to say that and I'll put it.
Speaker 2: And by the way, everybody that you see appearing today, yes,
Speaker 2: miss Shorty, everybody that's here on the channel, their stuff
Speaker 2: will be in my show notes. So if you go
Speaker 2: to the show notes for this episode later tonight, it'll
Speaker 2: have and every content creator and you have someone on
Speaker 2: your show put their damn stuff in the show notes.
Speaker 2: Don't let me go search for Mizzi. I should be
Speaker 2: able to find her in your show notes if she
Speaker 2: don't spend an hour with you anyway, Masa, I know
Speaker 2: you're inspired by what you just heard because just to
Speaker 2: your left you've seen someone who is as passionate about
Speaker 2: this as you are.
Speaker 5: So yeah, absolutely, but Shorty's done an awesome job and
Speaker 5: it's so awesome to just not only see how this
Speaker 5: following of Karen and supporting Karen evolved outside of the state,
Speaker 5: across the state of Massachusetts, across the Northeast, across the country,
Speaker 5: and then internationally when we found out that we not
Speaker 5: only had a big Karen Reid contingent in the UK,
Speaker 5: but also down in Australia, which is one of the
Speaker 5: most beautiful countries on earth that I've never been to.
Speaker 5: But Australia, we love you, guys, and this Shorty, You've
Speaker 5: just done an awesome job. You've been fantastic and just
Speaker 5: a special acknowledgment to you for all you've done.
Speaker 2: We love you, Please please, ma'am.
Speaker 10: So when the popcorn Karen went raising funds for Karen's
Speaker 10: Defense Fund, which has been an ongoing, amazing thing that
Speaker 10: has been happening, and people have been donating to Karen's
Speaker 10: Defense Fund and venmos to her. Then when the whole
Speaker 10: popcorn got shut down. I know it's been reinstated now,
Speaker 10: but I had this thought that that I wouldn't to
Speaker 10: be able to do something. Was before the standouts were
Speaker 10: being organized. I wanted to do something from over here
Speaker 10: in Australia, and so had I had designed a free
Speaker 10: car and read like like a little like a graphic
Speaker 10: and so I made I printed off two hundred stickers. Yeah,
Speaker 10: there's only two hundred of them free car and read
Speaker 10: bumper stickers. I bought pinkoes and pink thank you cards
Speaker 10: and they've now been mostly all shipped to some helpers
Speaker 10: in the US so they can post them internally. So
Speaker 10: what the way, it's a fundraiser for Karen. So if
Speaker 10: anybody would like one of these Massurey custom stickers, limited edition,
Speaker 10: if you make a donation to Karen's Defense Fund. I
Speaker 10: don't there's no I'm not touching the money. There's nothing
Speaker 10: dodgy about this. If you were to send a donation
Speaker 10: ten dollars plus, we'll get you one sticker fifty dollars plus,
Speaker 10: get you two one hundred dollars plus, get you one
Speaker 10: entry per person. And then if you screenshot your donation
Speaker 10: and again email it Tommy DM me on Twitter with
Speaker 10: your postal address, that would be sent out immediately. So
Speaker 10: get on it, like I'm over here. I'm over here
Speaker 10: from down Under trying to do my little thing, and
Speaker 10: it would be really amazing if people could get on board.
Speaker 10: And it's a pretty cool thing, really high quality, custom designed.
Speaker 3: That that I'll take you too, miss Shorty, and I'll
Speaker 3: send you my screenshot for my donation tonight.
Speaker 10: I love you face.
Speaker 2: I'm all over it like gravy on race. H thank you,
Speaker 2: miss Shorty. I'm in for one.
Speaker 1: Uh this.
Speaker 2: This lady right here wanted to hear me pronounce her
Speaker 2: name because obviously last time Sarah I pronounced it incorrectly
Speaker 2: without the Massachusetts accent. So it's Sarah and Sarah in
Speaker 2: Shock and Horror. So tell me tell me later on
Speaker 2: Sarah if I got that correct Sarah and Shock and horror.
Speaker 1: No DJ, Yes, Sad, Sad, Sarah, Sarah, Hey, Sad.
Speaker 2: I blew it.
Speaker 1: I'm blew in shocking, all shocking.
Speaker 2: I blew its. I blew it. Sarah a shock in horror.
Speaker 2: I blew it. But I am in training after all.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a trainee of of of nurse Kim and
Speaker 2: and Sean. I am not at that expert. Yes, I
Speaker 2: mean I can tell you when I went to Dean College,
Speaker 2: I could do the accent pretty well because I was
Speaker 2: listening to my teammates every every single day. But anyway,
Speaker 2: so who drove the Ford Edge? I don't think I
Speaker 2: does anybody have anything for who drove the Ford Edge?
Speaker 5: Yes? I do. It was Chloe the dog on our
Speaker 5: way to Vermont.
Speaker 1: It's so difficult edge.
Speaker 8: I'm driving the edge.
Speaker 1: There's so many Ford Edges you can you can have
Speaker 1: a Monopoly game on that, right.
Speaker 7: Peter, Yeah, you could, Seohan.
Speaker 9: But I think there's some information out which I'm not
Speaker 9: gonna touch right now. But I think you know what
Speaker 9: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, Peter, give it up to you. Buddy spilled.
Speaker 2: Come on, No, he's got his sauces.
Speaker 1: This one is for shot, you know, Dina, Dina Blina,
Speaker 1: I love it, Dina Blina. Steve Scaling has always been
Speaker 1: the strongest, absolute, strongest piece of evidence to me. Me too,
Speaker 1: because I really believe if it wasn't for Steve Scaling
Speaker 1: and that little darling he holds close to his heart,
Speaker 1: he risked it all by by spilling the tea against
Speaker 1: his old buddy Brian Alibert. Let me tell you that's
Speaker 1: how it went. And then you had Tommy Tommy Beatty,
Speaker 1: tom Beatty on the other end coming in with Erin,
Speaker 1: And that's how this thing got teed up. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you. Tommy Fleming can can deny it all he wants,
Speaker 1: but this is how it all went down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, the critical thinking piece, the common sense piece,
Speaker 2: just as happened, and this one Nurse Kim sure Nikki.
Speaker 3: Mick seven gave ten dollars, thank you so much, Lovey.
Speaker 3: When looking for someone, the logical thing, the logical thing.
Speaker 8: Is to call the local.
Speaker 3: I don't know, call the local. You last witnessed him?
Speaker 3: Who last witnessed him? Jen m never calls the Alberts
Speaker 3: house to ask if John arrived later or asked them
Speaker 3: to look outside.
Speaker 1: Thoughts awesome, great great great point, great point, great point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean she said she called those and Chris Jen New.
Speaker 2: Right Jen New Yeah, thank you. JD. Gossa great panel.
Speaker 2: Nurse Kim the corrupting to Van Halen.
Speaker 8: Okay, mister Monk's understudy.
Speaker 3: You you so, the fifty one fifty is a section
Speaker 3: twelve in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. And let me let
Speaker 3: you know that I have reached out to the one
Speaker 3: and only David Natty and I would really like to
Speaker 3: go through the good Sam.
Speaker 8: I want to see the medical records.
Speaker 3: I know it's like probably not necessary, but I am
Speaker 3: a legal nurse consultant.
Speaker 8: And the way that this was conducted.
Speaker 3: The physician, the er doc right Justin should be ashamed
Speaker 3: of himself because he not only took care of Officer
Speaker 3: John O'Keeffe, but he also took care of Karen Reid.
Speaker 3: Now what he didn't even remember? Okay, he had no idea.
Speaker 3: His documentation was so lackluster.
Speaker 8: When I tell you that, I.
Speaker 3: Clutched my proverbial pearls my friends upon his testimony. I'm watching,
Speaker 3: I'm looking, and I'm saying, he's gonna get it together
Speaker 3: because I have a lot of you know, respect for
Speaker 3: emergency room physicians, and.
Speaker 8: It never came. And my problem is, is this how
Speaker 8: Karen's labs were obtained.
Speaker 3: Guys, that sucked. In my opinion, she was sectioned by it.
Speaker 3: Like she was medically sent to the hospital due to
Speaker 3: a risk of her for herself and others. There was
Speaker 3: a determination made by the hospital to collect labs for
Speaker 3: a talks for a talk screen, right, but that was
Speaker 3: never requested by the police. So libs, let's write emotion,
Speaker 3: let's do some shit, because I think that we have
Speaker 3: an argument that not only was this not collected by
Speaker 3: mass Day police in a normal OUI charge, how in
Speaker 3: the Christ are you saying that her medical her compromise
Speaker 3: medical condition on the morning of January twenty ninth, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two, is used against her.
Speaker 8: I feel like this hip of violations there.
Speaker 3: I understand that, I know that, I know I know
Speaker 3: that David Yannetti, I know that Alan Jackson have looked
Speaker 3: through all of this. But let me see the records,
Speaker 3: because if I can see what the doctors, what the
Speaker 3: nurses road, there may be something there well.
Speaker 2: If anybody can be of help with that, like if
Speaker 2: if you haven't heard from Yanettie, then maybe Sean and
Speaker 2: and Peter could I'm not I'm not trying to be funny.
Speaker 2: I'm being serious. If if they can help out to
Speaker 2: maybe get something for you to look at, maybe that
Speaker 2: would help. Who knows.
Speaker 1: So I'm just the guy in Naples.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Gulf. Uh, this one is for you right here, Sean.
Speaker 1: What's the Mophi merch coming out?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Trying to get back into the back into the grind here.
Speaker 1: Uh you know someone, uh, someone did reach out to me,
Speaker 1: Mary Lochran, Yes, she did, Mary, and we're gonna work
Speaker 1: on something that's true.
Speaker 2: I'm down for a MOFO shirt up down for a
Speaker 2: bumper sticker. Just want to get that out there.
Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta tell you, I think uh, Olivia Nile
Speaker 1: for this shirt or maybe it's the other shirt. It's
Speaker 1: either Olivia or other. He will not be named. Partner
Speaker 1: that I have with Olivia. That's a whole of the story.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have we have the it's called in
Speaker 1: my little phone the OG dream Team. He Olivia and
Speaker 1: a name to be kept very very confidential.
Speaker 2: None of us here.
Speaker 8: Talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a lot of you have a lot
Speaker 1: of sources there, Young lady.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not cleared up to that level to know.
Speaker 2: But Sean, since since you're what's the name of the uh,
Speaker 2: the the David David Letterman show band leader, it's Paul something.
Speaker 2: What's his name?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks like you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have that. I come on, I'm not
Speaker 2: growing my hair on the side. God. But but Paul Shaffer,
Speaker 2: Paul Shaffer, Paul Shaffer. That's right, okay, because Midnight Moon
Speaker 2: wants to know, since you're the Paul Shaeffer of the
Speaker 2: Karen Reid, the Free Karen Reid Band, can he play trombone?
Speaker 2: Would you be willing to have brass?
Speaker 1: I would listen. I'll tell you a quick story, real quick.
Speaker 1: I was in a rock and roll band in high
Speaker 1: school and I said to my guys, we need a
Speaker 1: brass section. And they said, fuck you. I'm sorry, Shan,
Speaker 1: what do you doing?
Speaker 2: And this show family show?
Speaker 1: I wanted to I wanted to go with Tower of
Speaker 1: Power songs back then, and the band said no. I said,
Speaker 1: all right, yes, Midnight Moon, trombones, trumpets, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 2: At dude, look at Chicago, anybody go back to look
Speaker 2: at that nineteen seventy video on YouTube from Tanglewood. I
Speaker 2: think it was called It's an Incredible Live Chicago and
Speaker 2: their brass are just ridiculous. Man, I'm talking about coming down. No,
Speaker 2: it's okay, it's all right. I'll take the head man.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Reality Check. I appreciate you down beautiful,
Speaker 2: same same thing here, Thank you, Richie defence guy. Richie,
Speaker 2: I mean, are you for the the the the fiber
Speaker 2: boards as opposed the synthetic fiber as opposed to wood
Speaker 2: because the wood rots, So just if you would let
Speaker 2: us know about that, Thank you very much, Richie.
Speaker 7: Uh, excuse me interrupt this.
Speaker 9: Richie defence guy is a very very active participant in
Speaker 9: this Karen Reid movement.
Speaker 7: Very active.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Thank you, Richie.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you that's Richie. I know, yes, Richie
Speaker 1: is a good guy.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Richie. And that's a legitimate question about the fence,
Speaker 2: by the way, like a Jimmy Fallon style music jam.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, all right. Last one, last one from M. Gaglio.
Speaker 10: M J.
Speaker 2: Galli. Sorry, I don't have any glasses on, Sean J.
Speaker 2: I don't have me glasses on without the glass.
Speaker 1: Gaglio?
Speaker 2: Was that pretty good? Though Kim and I did a
Speaker 2: little bit of Irish for you, right, okay, all right,
Speaker 2: the winner of tonight's coolest Massachusetts accent? Would you like
Speaker 2: to vote on that? Or do you guys want me
Speaker 2: to just pick Masa? Do you want to make a vote.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna vote for nurse on this one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna vote for DJ.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss who had the coolest Massachusetts accent tonight?
Speaker 2: Absolutely Nurse Kim, Am I the only one vote for Sean.
Speaker 2: I want to. I want to I want to recap.
Speaker 2: Where are the hanging chads? All right? So once again,
Speaker 2: uh the return winner of coolest Massachusetts accent. I'm calling
Speaker 2: all beings Nurse cam but Day to give the wait
Speaker 2: a minute, Here we go, there we go. All right,
Speaker 2: Nurse Kim, thank you, home girl. We appreciate you, and
Speaker 2: I want to wait a minute. There we go. I
Speaker 2: was able to stop it. I want to thank everybody
Speaker 2: for joining us. I want to thank everybody in the chat.
Speaker 2: Julie and we got a couple of I don't know
Speaker 2: how many message comments we had here, I mean we
Speaker 2: had was it almost twelve hundred comments?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And twenty five hundred people watching. Thank you so much,
Speaker 2: mas of Media. It was an honor to meet you
Speaker 2: and have you join and I can't wait to speak
Speaker 2: with you again one on one. Also Nurse Kim as well.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get you because we talked about doing
Speaker 2: a one on one with you and let you just
Speaker 2: go hog wild up and just take over to joint.
Speaker 2: Miss Shorty. Thank you for all you're doing. I know
Speaker 2: Maso was inspired sitting next to you, and I'm inspire
Speaker 2: as well. And I'm buying one of you bumper stickers
Speaker 2: all right as a mine.
Speaker 8: Yes, thank you so much. Mitch Shorty.
Speaker 3: Though you are, you are a voice that we all
Speaker 3: appreciate so much, your memory, your activism, and you will
Speaker 3: love for Karen, for her family, for also for Officer
Speaker 3: John O'Keeffe and the community is so commendable.
Speaker 8: And we just love your face.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, We.
Speaker 2: Love you, John O'Keeffe. We haven't forgotten you, bro man.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get there, so don't you worry. Don't you worry, brother,
Speaker 2: we haven't forgot you. Peter Murphy, thank you, brother. I
Speaker 2: appreciate you.
Speaker 7: Glad to be here and it was a great roundtable.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you bro Man, Nurse Kim, thank you, homegirl,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 8: So low.
Speaker 2: Where the hell is a microphone? But now, thank you
Speaker 2: for coming on, and I appreciate it. It's okay, okay,
Speaker 2: all right and well, and we'll get Dave calling in
Speaker 2: on as well. Man, we'll get him on that round
Speaker 2: table for Sandra birchmore King Mofo.
Speaker 1: Thank you, DJ you, thank you to the panel. It
Speaker 1: was great meeting Miss Shoty. Miss Shoty met Dave, Masa,
Speaker 1: Nurse Kim, Kimmy Peter, and listen to the chat. I
Speaker 1: see what you're saying out there. There will be a
Speaker 1: show coming up for everyone, not just the very elite,
Speaker 1: but for everyone, and we're going to get that party running.
Speaker 1: So hang in there. It's been a long day, long
Speaker 1: of you tell a lot of intel. You know those days, DJ,
Speaker 1: you know when they're coming over the the Cosmic Frontier,
Speaker 1: you know those days are.
Speaker 2: Man. I'm glad. I'm glad you guys are getting it. Man,
Speaker 2: come on, gonna keep keep putting pressure on the Dodgeball
Speaker 2: team led by Psycho Brian Albert. So check your uh
Speaker 2: check your email. One of the folks from the last
Speaker 2: show reached out to me and she has a She
Speaker 2: sent a really good photo to me and you on
Speaker 2: email of Brian and I think it's middy craft, so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna check that out.
Speaker 8: Okay, your phone home, Bye guys, All.
Speaker 2: Right bye everybody. I'll be half of Shorty. Peace out,
Speaker 2: Uncle Mo