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<v Speaker 1>Calling All Beings.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all forget it?

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<v Speaker 3>Ye?

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<v Speaker 4>Can I get it? Man for calling all beings? Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>welcome everybody. Welcome back to Calling All Beings, True Crime Unsolved.

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<v Speaker 4>I am your host, DJ, and boy, do we have

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<v Speaker 4>an esteemed panel tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here to tell you about it. And let me

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<v Speaker 2>say before I really get going here, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say something for me. It really is an honor to

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<v Speaker 2>have been accepted by the Massachusetts Karen Reid community, of

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<v Speaker 2>which all these people represent, and I've got great respect

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<v Speaker 2>for all of them as content creators and persons alike.

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<v Speaker 2>I did go to college in Massachusetts, I was not

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<v Speaker 2>born and raised there, and just the fact that they've

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<v Speaker 2>embraced me and then welcomed me into their group is huge.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that, we're gonna we about to get into

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<v Speaker 2>it with Karen Reid round table number dose or two.

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<v Speaker 2>But dose is how you know Sean was me talking

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<v Speaker 2>down there in Columbia all those years. So without further ado,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into the first one. So this first, gentleman,

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<v Speaker 2>So when you're feeling down about this topic and you're

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<v Speaker 2>suffering losses as we did the other day with Judge

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<v Speaker 2>Bev's ruling, against basically dismissing those two charges counts one

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<v Speaker 2>and three of the charges against Karen. And you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of are bummed out about that. You look to this

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<v Speaker 2>man right here. You know, it's a group of talenties

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<v Speaker 2>basically that is doing this to her, and it can

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<v Speaker 2>be very very disappointing at times, although as he said today,

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<v Speaker 2>it's expected. There's nothing that he didn't expect. So you

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<v Speaker 2>only need to look at this man for inspiration and

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<v Speaker 2>a renewed sense of purpose in this mission of justice

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<v Speaker 2>for John and Karen. He is none other than the

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<v Speaker 2>may Mark Mesa media.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, thank you, DJ, great to be here, Thank

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<v Speaker 5>you inspiration. Indeed, it's all about pumping people up and

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<v Speaker 5>getting everybody fired up and being fired up and just

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<v Speaker 5>always having passion and being very excited to fight for

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<v Speaker 5>Karen Reid at all casts. DJ, that is for sure, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time I watch you on any one show, not

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<v Speaker 2>only your own show, that is how I feel. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And and so I thank you, And it is a

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure and honor to finally meet you because I'm probably

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<v Speaker 2>I've been waiting a couple of months to meet you,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm checking out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's awesome. It's great to be on your show.

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<v Speaker 5>I love your intro and I like the whole alien,

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<v Speaker 5>themy going on and all that, so it's awesome stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yes, we are three years as a group, myself, Nathan, Debb,

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<v Speaker 2>and Courtney. We are three years a UFO big Foot

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<v Speaker 2>and Paranormal show. And we dived into true crime just

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<v Speaker 2>prior and did an investigation that ended about when I

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<v Speaker 2>found out about Karen Reid and just became enamored with

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<v Speaker 2>all of you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, all right, sports en Karen Reid following fanatics, So

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<v Speaker 5>that's how it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm a sports fanatic and I'm a music fanatic

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So which miss Shorty and I shared some

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<v Speaker 2>some Pearl dam actually some Eddie Vedder the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so let's go to our next person here.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, so I'm unfortunately I'm not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to intro Lily the True Crime Kangaroo, who is

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful, wonderful human who contacted me after the last

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<v Speaker 2>roundtable and we had a little one on one talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a collab and I said, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do another roundtable. Why don't you come on and

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<v Speaker 2>then the next thing, you know, she introduced us to

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Shorty, who we're gonna intro here in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>But Lily is not feeling well tonight. I believe she

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<v Speaker 2>is in the chat. You can expect to see her

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<v Speaker 2>on a future episode, either here or on her show

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<v Speaker 2>where we get together in chat. Our next guest I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed joined us in the chat at least once or twice,

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<v Speaker 2>and then after speaking with Lily, she said to me

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<v Speaker 2>that we should have Miss Shorty on, who is a

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<v Speaker 2>celebrated content creator in her own right. Both she and

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<v Speaker 2>Lily have what at least I describe as an encyclopedic

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge of this case. So, without further ado.

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<v Speaker 6>Part of people put no hands together for Australia's Oh

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<v Speaker 6>miss Shorty.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, as a Shorty, how are you very well?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, excellent honor to have you, ma'am, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for being here. Oh yeah, absolutely, man. After

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<v Speaker 2>hearing you know, she knows a lot more about this

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<v Speaker 2>case than I do. I learn every time I listen

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<v Speaker 2>to these folks. Let's see. Okay, So another blessing I

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<v Speaker 2>have we have in the community, uh that has an

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<v Speaker 2>interest to see justice for both Karen Reid and John

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<v Speaker 2>O'Keefe is this next gentleman who is himself a retired

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<v Speaker 2>sergeant from the canon excuse me, Canton Police Department and

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<v Speaker 2>has provided a wealth of information to both myself and

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<v Speaker 2>the community. I feel like I'm honored now to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to call him friend. So party people put you

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<v Speaker 2>for Peter Murphy Pilot, Thank you, welcome Sergeant Murphy.

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<v Speaker 7>Glad to be here with everybody tonight, looking.

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<v Speaker 2>For good to have you brother. All right, So our

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<v Speaker 2>next guest. This is her second time on the round Table,

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<v Speaker 2>and in fact, she alluded to that the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, I don't want to put up

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<v Speaker 2>on her asking her to use all her time to

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<v Speaker 2>come back on the show. She's been doing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of content lately. But I'm glad she's here so with.

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<v Speaker 2>She had a landslide victory in our Coolest Massachusetts Accent

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<v Speaker 2>contest that we had last time, as stated by Attorney

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Beto, so this so she is such a natural

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<v Speaker 2>talent as a content creator. She has this show with

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Colinane, who's in the chat. I hope to get

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<v Speaker 2>to meet Dave at some point. They had been broadcasting

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<v Speaker 2>on on TikTok. And this explains why she's so damn

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<v Speaker 2>polished and so good as a content creator. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's just gonna she's about to take over this media.

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<v Speaker 6>So party people, put those hands together for Norem.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, my GOODJJ, hands down.

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<v Speaker 8>Are you the best introducer?

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<v Speaker 3>You got me feeling like I'm going into WrestleMania every

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<v Speaker 3>time I speak with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I got an amen for you. Nurse Kim, Amen, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I wanted to just say, Maza media after all

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<v Speaker 3>this time, Brother Masa, sister Kim is here.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go, right, let's go, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have we have three paisons here right, myself,

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<v Speaker 2>Kim and Masa, Right said Marco, Come on, man Paison

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<v Speaker 2>all right, alright. So last, and certainly not least, this

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<v Speaker 2>gentleman right here, the great white Shark picture Josh chasing

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<v Speaker 2>after that poor woman water skiing, But it's not a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually Brian Albert out there on the cape and

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<v Speaker 2>he's behind some jet ski and then here comes to

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<v Speaker 2>great what dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun

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<v Speaker 2>d and here and he just keeps coming and Brian

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<v Speaker 2>looking behind him, and he's still there. He's still there,

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<v Speaker 2>and he could go fast, uh, go faster, but he

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<v Speaker 2>sewn is still there. You know, he can't he can't

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<v Speaker 2>get he's accelerating. So with the landslide victory that that

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<v Speaker 2>that Nurse Kim had in coolest Massachusetts accent, we decided

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<v Speaker 2>to bring in a ringer tonight, someone who has an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing Massachusetts accent in his own right to challenge Nurse Kim.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that that that is part of the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why he's here, not just for breaking news, which he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do tonight, because he done blew us away backstage

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of minutes ago with something. Uh, but it's also, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a guy that has just provided so much

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<v Speaker 2>leadership and has been able to really attack the Mcalberts

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that in some ways only he can.

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<v Speaker 6>So with all that said, put your hands together for

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<v Speaker 6>the FO you know what I'm talking about, the great

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<v Speaker 6>White Shark, the supervisory d Agent, mister Sean mcdona, Can

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<v Speaker 6>I get it?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey man for Sean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hey, DJ Masa, Miss Shorty, Peter, Nurse Kim and

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<v Speaker 1>the chat most of them we were together today at

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<v Speaker 1>three o'clock. It was a beautiful afternoon. I'm so humbled

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<v Speaker 1>and just taken back by all the support we're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a great panel. And and dj thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for having us all together and being a

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<v Speaker 1>part of this special movement. It's truly a movement, Miss Shaddy,

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<v Speaker 1>Masa Costs, Nurse Kim and Peter. It's just I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just amazing, truly is and I know we're

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<v Speaker 1>making a difference and that's all that's all that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you to all of yous and and the chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey one love to everybody in the chat. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much. Hey, thank you so much. Somebody just donated

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<v Speaker 2>like a nineteen ninety nine. It is Kylo Bear, amazing

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<v Speaker 2>group of mofos. Let me get us up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you, Kylo Bear, can I just give

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<v Speaker 1>this guy something? Kylo my first show, right, my first

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<v Speaker 1>show there, Djes gifted three hundred memberships.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, just absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy's absolutely crowd. But you know I gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>him on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to, So Kylo Bear, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>because it is difficult. This is the first couple of

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<v Speaker 2>months that we've ever manetized in the history of our show.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean's doing it now because it does cost money to

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<v Speaker 2>put these things on and to ask people to give

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<v Speaker 2>up their time. And thank you so much. That is

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<v Speaker 2>very nice of you to do that for Sean, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're honored to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Caveman, what's up? Sounded like Bigfoot man and the Pilgrim

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<v Speaker 2>the pilgrim shadow. Thank you so much. Good evening. My

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<v Speaker 2>canine is patrolling the primity for any Albert's armer caves

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<v Speaker 2>that are lurking eyes in the sky. Pause on the ground.

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<v Speaker 8>Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>That is awesome. You know, hey, what do we got

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<v Speaker 2>to say? I think Nurse Kim, did you have Chloe

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<v Speaker 2>as your background the other day?

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<v Speaker 8>I did? Today, I have today, I have my my

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<v Speaker 8>famous punch of proctup.

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<v Speaker 2>We do that.

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<v Speaker 8>That's we're keep it YouTube. But yes, I have Chloe.

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<v Speaker 3>She's sometimes she's on the cave, sometimes she's down in

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<v Speaker 3>West Dennis, and other times she's driving.

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<v Speaker 8>She's driving a truck, okay, and she sees a plow coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I almost I almost peed in my pants when

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Chloe laying on the beach with a cell phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was like, wait a minute, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna need a viper, like some sort of an adult

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<v Speaker 2>paper after this. It was so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that this is like not appropriate, but whoever

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<v Speaker 3>made that art work? I for some reason, I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>some I'd like them to be in my living room.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm like, I love the Chloe artwork, so please.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah it's an ai am and yeah, it was awesome

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<v Speaker 5>when I came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just because you're I want to say something, Chloe,

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<v Speaker 2>just because you're a disposable we wei pad to the Alberts.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you wherever you are, and I hope you're

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<v Speaker 2>And what we're gonna do is we're gonna go in

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<v Speaker 2>Sean earlier, it's like we're playing dodgeball against the Mcalberts.

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<v Speaker 2>So just picture that, okay, and and Sean wants to

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<v Speaker 2>that's about to go over, and just playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to everybody that's in the chat. We'll do a round

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<v Speaker 2>table portion that's fairly structured, absolute free for all, followed

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<v Speaker 2>much everybody for the blessings. Okay, Sean, without further ado,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So mine is going to be a hypothetical situation. Okay, PD,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll love this, Okay. So hypothetically, if real cops had

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<v Speaker 1>hit him, okay, hypothetically speaking, had the real police did

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<v Speaker 1>their job and detained Karen, immediately took her off the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>took her to the station and seized her vehicle. How

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<v Speaker 1>different would this case be today if they did their job?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, first of all, the way this works is it

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, she's coming up quick here. So yes, how different

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<v Speaker 8>would that have been? Have been completely different?

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<v Speaker 3>We would not We would not be here had the

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<v Speaker 3>what we believe the correct policy and procedures of policing

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<v Speaker 3>were enforced on January twenty ninth, twenty twenty two, mister.

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<v Speaker 2>Murphy, Yes, okay, now you give your take on what

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<v Speaker 2>Sean on what Sean said, and Sean, if you need

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<v Speaker 2>to reiterate that, please do No, I got it, I

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<v Speaker 7>We've bented this around quite a bit, Sean and I obviously.

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<v Speaker 9>If real, real police officers showed up there and advertally

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<v Speaker 9>didn't know whose house that was, or perhaps they even did,

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<v Speaker 9>as Kim just said, we would not be having this conversation.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, this case would have been over.

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<v Speaker 9>A long long time ago. It would have been over

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<v Speaker 9>by nine o'clock that morning before Lank made his second

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<v Speaker 2>With the family. Yeah, I'm no question. And if anybody

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<v Speaker 2>wants to know an example of real police that that

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<v Speaker 2>are are honest, and there are many, many, many, the

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelming of majority of them are are like that that

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<v Speaker 2>are out there. But two examples are at the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>left and right of your screen right now, Maturty, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what more can.

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<v Speaker 10>We say on this one? Sean? Sean sort of pinned

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<v Speaker 10>it pretty pretty well there. It would have been completely different,

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<v Speaker 10>an absolute polar opposite spectrum in terms of what we

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<v Speaker 10>with the investigation, the evidence collection, the interviewing of all

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<v Speaker 10>the well, they would have been witnesses slash suspects. But

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<v Speaker 10>they turned out to speak like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 10>a talking table did? They have a round table? Here

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<v Speaker 10>we are, we're just replicating what they did, sharing our thoughts.

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<v Speaker 10>They shared all their thoughts, and the investigations suffered from

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<v Speaker 2>Of it mas of media CIRTA.

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<v Speaker 5>I just hope that none of these police officers in

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<v Speaker 5>Canton ever worked for door Dash or grub Hub or

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<v Speaker 5>any places like that, because God forbid any customer that

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<v Speaker 5>ordered through their service through McDonald's or Wendy's or Burger

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<v Speaker 5>King and the Tampa evidence sticker was on that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it might be left open for you know, them to

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<v Speaker 5>steal their French fries. Because let's be honest, it's absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>insane that you see the tail light in the AI

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<v Speaker 5>image behind Nurse Kim there. It's abslutely insane that evidence

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<v Speaker 5>was placed in a stopping shop bag and sitting in

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<v Speaker 5>sally Port with no seal on it whatsoever. Not placed

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<v Speaker 5>in proper evidence bags. Placed in a stopping shop bag, unsealed,

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<v Speaker 5>no tamper evident labels on it, nothing like that. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just sitting there for people to bruise in and modify

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<v Speaker 5>for a couple of days, unattended to, no telling who

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<v Speaker 5>was in there, who wasn't in there. It's a whole

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<v Speaker 5>different scenario if the cops did their job, and obviously

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<v Speaker 5>they did everything they could to make sure that even

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<v Speaker 5>if they couldn't incriminate Karen, that no one could really

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<v Speaker 5>incriminate them because it's a really compromised crime scene because

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't properly. You know, the crime scene was released

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<v Speaker 5>way too soon and additionally it was it was a

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<v Speaker 5>total disaster and obviously done on purpose.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll toast to that guys, let me see it is

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<v Speaker 9>evidence came off because it's a wet cup with water

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<v Speaker 5>But you know where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to add a dedendum to what I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting at. Okay, So, had they done their job

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<v Speaker 1>just on the statements alone, they had arrestable, they had arrestable.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's give her the better for the doubt. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a detaining type situation. They could detain her and

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<v Speaker 1>they could have seized her car right then and there.

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<v Speaker 1>Had they seized the car, they would have only had

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<v Speaker 1>a crack on the tail light that red None of

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<v Speaker 1>that red plastic would have ever been on that lawn.

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<v Speaker 1>Look how much that case would have turned all right,

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<v Speaker 1>there had been no evidence against her. They were going

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<v Speaker 1>at it as a domestic assault up from ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>So this case took on a whole different meeting. When

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<v Speaker 1>the Framers got together and had their family and friend

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<v Speaker 1>meeting and they just let her go, they irritate the

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<v Speaker 1>distance distance right, and enough of a plan to get

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<v Speaker 1>that car back and get the evidence. Had they get

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<v Speaker 1>that car at six forty five in the morning, seize it,

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<v Speaker 1>brought it back to ken cracktail light, no red pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right on the lawn.

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<v Speaker 9>If they did it that way, they would have lost

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<v Speaker 9>their opportunity, which they garnished as the day were.

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<v Speaker 1>Not exactly They would have had zero evidence, nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>And when Shaun says framers, by the way, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean Alexander Hamilton and James Madison, just so that you

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<v Speaker 2>know he's talking about Tolly and Proctor and those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>To be clear and even and always going to be

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<v Speaker 2>even and even certain a police lieutenant across the street

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<v Speaker 2>who magically, all of a sudden didn't have any interesting

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<v Speaker 2>ring camera video, which is shocking. So Peter said on

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<v Speaker 2>our last show that he thinks he could have gotten

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<v Speaker 2>a warrant in potentially as fast as thirty to forty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes, could have been longer. So I guess, because

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<v Speaker 2>Lily's not here, I'm gonna ask a question to Sean

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<v Speaker 2>and then send this around the table. What do you think, man?

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot what my question is. I'm gonna have to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Nurse Kim and I'll try to

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<v Speaker 2>reconjure what I had because it was related to your question.

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<v Speaker 2>So go ahead, Nurse Kim and then I'll try to

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<v Speaker 2>go after you.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, So I just wanted to ask these incredible panelists,

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<v Speaker 3>my mister Peter Murphy, who I adore, Sean, my friend,

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<v Speaker 3>my life, Miss Shorty, who has been such an incredible

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<v Speaker 3>support and a strong woman voice this in this entire case.

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<v Speaker 8>I admire everything about you, and mas of media. I

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<v Speaker 8>can't okay, I just can't, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Sorry I'm gushing, but I wanted to ask because

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<v Speaker 3>we were all such invested creatures, right, we're.

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<v Speaker 8>Invested beings calling all beings.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm sure that we've all gone back and watched

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<v Speaker 3>and watched testimony since the trial has ended. I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to ask you guys specifically, has there been one piece

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<v Speaker 3>of testimony that when you went back to look at it,

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<v Speaker 3>you said, oh my gosh, I missed that and it

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<v Speaker 3>has completely just you know, shattered, your brain.

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<v Speaker 5>Fell intendent on that nurse came shatter.

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<v Speaker 8>Twenty five pieces now.

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<v Speaker 2>Exact? Is that to Peter Yeah, that would go to

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Wright, whoever's next to Kim Just look and just

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<v Speaker 7>Oh okay, I have reviewed.

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<v Speaker 9>Quite a bit of the testimony and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 9>think of something right now. I'm suffering from data overload

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<v Speaker 9>on all the stuff that I missed the first time

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<v Speaker 9>that went through, trying to think. Most recently, I looked

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<v Speaker 9>at I guess it was Higgins's testimony, and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 9>to think what I missed the first time that came

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<v Speaker 9>out glaring on the second one. I guess it was

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<v Speaker 9>something something to do with the time frame. I believe

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<v Speaker 9>I detected some variation evolvement in his testimony about the

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<v Speaker 9>time that he disappeared from and who was in the

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<v Speaker 9>kitchen when he left, because they didn't have Hennessy or

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<v Speaker 9>his favorite bourbon or whatever it is he drank and

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<v Speaker 9>he disappeared, and there's a big time lapse, and it

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<v Speaker 9>seemed to come together as to why, in my mind,

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<v Speaker 9>why he might have disappeared, as to whether he went

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<v Speaker 9>to the station or not, and whether he was doing

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<v Speaker 9>something else that maybe shows up in a in some

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<v Speaker 9>sort of a not a geofence, but the you know,

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<v Speaker 9>the phone calls that were made in log history of

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<v Speaker 9>who we might have called some time after he got

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<v Speaker 9>in his jeep at some time around whatever time it

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<v Speaker 9>was twelve thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Yes, ma'am sure, yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 10>So to be honest, I was so very deeply invested

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<v Speaker 10>and entrenched in this that I watched every day of

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<v Speaker 10>trial twice at so I watched it from my in

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<v Speaker 10>the future but behind time zone difference in Australia from

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<v Speaker 10>about three point thirty, I used to watch the whole

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<v Speaker 10>day of trial at like one point five x speed

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<v Speaker 10>with one commentator and then like a law tuber, and

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<v Speaker 10>then I'd watch it all again on one point seventy

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<v Speaker 10>five x speed with another legal commentator, and then I

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<v Speaker 10>would watch the nightly reek and then i'd watch the

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<v Speaker 10>anything and I didn't come back to it because I

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<v Speaker 10>saw it all and nauseum. However, if I was going

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<v Speaker 10>one little thing that came to mind right now that

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<v Speaker 10>wasn't nothing. Didn't blow my mind in retrospect, but at

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<v Speaker 10>the time, it was that moment when the library, the

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<v Speaker 10>it guy from the library was ended the disc by Lally,

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<v Speaker 10>and like he was already kind of look a little

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<v Speaker 10>bit smirky and like about Lally, and then when Lally

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, sort that is an underrated moment. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what you said, because that that whole library footage that

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<v Speaker 2>they had a scrub. And this kind of feeds into

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<v Speaker 2>my question that I forgot earlier, but I was able

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<v Speaker 2>to jot it down in between these answers. So my

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<v Speaker 2>question for Sean is this, when do you think the

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<v Speaker 2>decision was made not to take a photo since you

421
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<v Speaker 2>alluded to it, not to take a photo of her vehicle,

422
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<v Speaker 2>either at the scene or at Dighton. How do you

423
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<v Speaker 2>think was that something from the Canton PD, that someone

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<v Speaker 2>in that hierarchy, or was that someone at the either

425
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>trooper Proctor when he when he had the case fell

426
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<v Speaker 2>to him. I forget how you guys say that, but.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the part that seals the theory that I

428
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<v Speaker 1>have that they made this decision after they sat down. Okay,

429
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<v Speaker 1>So initially we know this that A. Karen was not

430
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<v Speaker 1>with her vehicle on the scene at the time, okay,

431
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>And the working theory in the very early mornings was

432
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<v Speaker 1>that she hit John. Okay, she hit him, physically hit him.

433
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<v Speaker 1>And we know from Uri Buchanic and the hospital administrators

434
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<v Speaker 1>that he was still working the case as a domestic assault.

435
00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>The girlfriend hit the quote unquote decedent with the waters

436
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<v Speaker 1>with a cocktail glass or a water glass. Okay. Now

437
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<v Speaker 1>we know that Brian Albert is a very shrewd and

438
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:56.559
<v Speaker 1>smart person. He's got a criminal mind. He knew when

439
00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they all went back in right after Lank and company

440
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>left him, Jen McCabe starts saying, well, you know they

441
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<v Speaker 1>think that it's a it's an assault and battery by

442
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Karen to John and he goes, Ain't no way, no

443
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<v Speaker 1>one's gonna believe that. Okay. So when they when they

444
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<v Speaker 1>all think about this, all right, why did they all

445
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 1>leave Brian's house to conduct the Indians all down at

446
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Jen's house. It didn't make any sense none at all.

447
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<v Speaker 2>All right.

448
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>They had askstorm, they had to pass the police department

449
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>to get the Gens house, okay, and I believe in

450
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:39.279
<v Speaker 1>those hours the actual plan was, Okay, if she's making

451
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>these statements I hit him, well then we need to

452
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.079
<v Speaker 1>get the car and we need to get that evidence

453
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:49.079
<v Speaker 1>because they knew Canton found nothing. Canton found nothing, they

454
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:52.319
<v Speaker 1>knew that, and it was a shit plan to begin with,

455
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.839
<v Speaker 1>but that's the that's the best plan they had. And

456
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>so that decision was made between the hours of say,

457
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<v Speaker 1>ten o'clock like eleven fifteen, after Brian started thinking, and

458
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>then they had all those hours from eleven fifteen to

459
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>four fifteen to get it all in motion. How did

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<v Speaker 1>Tully know enough to instruct O'Hara where they should look

461
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<v Speaker 1>for the pieces of red tail light after two feet

462
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 1>of snow have fallen and twelve hours later of an

463
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:27.799
<v Speaker 1>unsecured crime scene. And that's the answer to my court.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the answer to the question to you, DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, And that makes sense. You know, I'm trying

466
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<v Speaker 2>to figure out, you know, how it all came together

467
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.440
<v Speaker 2>where the initial arriving officers thinking, how are we going

468
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<v Speaker 2>to not pin this on Brian. So, Nurse Kim, what's

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<v Speaker 2>your take on how you see those communications might have gone?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm so sorry one more time.

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<v Speaker 2>So essentially, ma'am, it's the communications that would have happened

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<v Speaker 2>after the officers a riot, and you can choose to

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<v Speaker 2>tackle the communications between officers in Canton. You could choose,

474
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>uh to tackle what you believe the communications were between

475
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Proctor when he got hold of it at whatever time

476
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>that was, or the the Mcalbert families.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so actually okay, can I all right, I'm gonna

478
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 3>tackle it this way what you want. I would like

479
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.359
<v Speaker 3>to say that I think that it is underrated or

480
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.039
<v Speaker 3>under discussed that Lank went in that house all by himself,

481
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 3>sad and Good was never in that house. And although

482
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 3>his reports say that he went in that house and

483
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 3>that he had a partner with him, it is very

484
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 3>clear as evidence by Jennifer McCabe's testimony, Coco's testimony, and

485
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 3>and even Brian Albert.

486
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.200
<v Speaker 8>He fixed it. He fixed it like I fixed my face,

487
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 8>but he fixed.

488
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:57.480
<v Speaker 3>It, saying that well, Lank came in first and then

489
00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 3>he was like, oh no, but then Sergeant Good, I

490
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 3>mean Good came in right behind him, or something like

491
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<v Speaker 3>in that effect.

492
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 8>But but Coco was the one who told us that

493
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 8>it was just Lank in the house. Now what does

494
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.039
<v Speaker 8>that mean? That means that when everybody's in there, when

495
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.119
<v Speaker 8>they're doing their their.

496
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Round storyboard, they're doing their storyboard and they are commiserating

497
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 3>of you know, what are we all going to say?

498
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 3>And getting it all together? And I believe that Jennifer

499
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.039
<v Speaker 3>j Jennifer McKay, it was the ring leader of that

500
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:32.240
<v Speaker 3>cover up squad and she just you know, she was

501
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.519
<v Speaker 3>doing her darn thing. Do I think that Jennifer that

502
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:38.319
<v Speaker 3>she had anything to do with, you know, actually hurting anyone.

503
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 8>Absolutely not.

504
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:43.680
<v Speaker 3>But I think that she needed to be the sweep

505
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 3>it up kind of gal that she is and to

506
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:47.599
<v Speaker 3>make sure that the narrative has.

507
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 8>Her family walking out and smelling like roses.

508
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<v Speaker 3>But I think that it is highly telling that the

509
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:58.559
<v Speaker 3>communication between those officers, right was although Lank went in

510
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 3>a family friend and old family.

511
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:05.759
<v Speaker 8>Friend goes back with Kevin, not Kevin. Well, yeah, Kevin

512
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.400
<v Speaker 8>and Chris Albert. You know, they go back.

513
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:14.559
<v Speaker 3>There's issues with you know, public acts with the Lappelado

514
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>brothers and costing the town of Canton three hundred thousand

515
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:20.480
<v Speaker 3>dollars in a lawsuit. Thank you, Rita one body for

516
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 3>that info, you know, readA. Yes, Rita tells it, but

517
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 3>like it just goes back so far and it shows

518
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:31.960
<v Speaker 3>that right then that good was willing to say I

519
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 3>went in the house when he didn't.

520
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:34.559
<v Speaker 8>What else?

521
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<v Speaker 2>Right? Thank you? Yeah, I mean it's really interesting how

522
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>this all came together. But yeah, it's I mean, Jen

523
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 2>being the ring leader and trying to put that together.

524
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>It just shows what a devious mind. But what Sean

525
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 2>brought up just for everybody out there, and if you're

526
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.240
<v Speaker 2>like sort of team Mcalbert and you're in the chat

527
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>right now, you can't explain how you don't document the

528
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 2>condition of the vehicle as it's found is, particularly when

529
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 2>that's your hypothesis of the crime. The only reason you

530
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 2>could do that is to make sure you couldn't document

531
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:13.039
<v Speaker 2>it so that it couldn't be proven later on. There

532
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.799
<v Speaker 2>was nothing wrong with it, and everybody should take stock

533
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>in that. There's a reason why people don't just do things.

534
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 2>You don't just get rid of your phone. You don't

535
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>just sell your home. You don't just rehome your dog.

536
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>You don't take your phone to a military base and

537
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 2>smash the SIM card maybe with a pair of leatherman

538
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>pliers and throw it in the dumpster. All these things

539
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>are done for a reason, and there we can only

540
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>come up with one reason. I know none of us

541
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>are that smart, but we can only come up with

542
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.559
<v Speaker 2>one reason. Anyway, Sorry miss miss mister Murphy. If you

543
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.319
<v Speaker 2>want to take that one around real quick, sir.

544
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 7>Uh just I have a couple of possible.

545
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 9>If Ian's orbots on that thought, I think I think

546
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 9>the feds have it all. Sean and I at length

547
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.519
<v Speaker 9>about this. I think the Feds have it all. I

548
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:06.599
<v Speaker 9>think I don't think they lack for anything right now,

549
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:08.720
<v Speaker 9>and I'm going to be surprised if when this all

550
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 9>comes out, probably sooner than later, that that there weren't

551
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:18.039
<v Speaker 9>a lot of phone calls made sometime after most of

552
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 9>the younger adults left, which I guess was sometime around

553
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:27.759
<v Speaker 9>twelve one thirty, I guess according to testimony. And I

554
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.480
<v Speaker 9>think that the plan and everything started to fall into place,

555
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 9>and I think calls were made then, and I wouldn't

556
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 9>be surprised if there's real surprises as to who was

557
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:41.319
<v Speaker 9>notified and when, and perhaps somebody that ended up showing

558
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:45.400
<v Speaker 9>up in a Ford Edge around three o'clock or two.

559
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 7>Thirty that maybe went out for bread and milk.

560
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 9>I just think there's a lot of I think there's

561
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:56.480
<v Speaker 9>a lot to be had in the phone data, which

562
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 9>is going to bring a lot of this speculation that.

563
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 7>We all have to the forefront.

564
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who else doesn't go out for bread and milk

565
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 2>when you're drunk at three in the morning. I always

566
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 2>do that every day this morning, I mean, my goodness,

567
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 2>standard operating procedure. I just want to make sure a

568
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>nurse Kim doesn't try to ham up her Massachusetts accent

569
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 2>to beat Sean. You have a legitimate competitor here tonight.

570
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I just want to let you know that. Okay, he wins.

571
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 8>Listen, listen, he wins.

572
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:29.599
<v Speaker 1>All right, Dochester, I believe miss Shody shot.

573
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 2>The competition. It is on. It is on tonight, Miss

574
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Sorty communications, but Misshody a communication between uh you.

575
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Know, put in there. You only put ours when there's

576
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>no like BRender.

577
00:34:52.159 --> 00:35:01.159
<v Speaker 11>Pizza, right right, mister Dochester. All right, I'm learning, Dochester.

578
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>You don't say dor Chester. You saying chester Chester guy?

579
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm sorry.

580
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:10.159
<v Speaker 5>Keeping a healthy guy.

581
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're Sam Nigel. You're a loser guy. Yeah, boy,

582
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:20.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what, Sam nags.

583
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go to Doggins for Saint Patty's Day breakfast.

584
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Doggings called Dorgans, but we say Doggins. I'm going to

585
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Donkeys guy, you know, dunkadunk Lanca.

586
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>And if we didn't say Alank. I love when he

587
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 2>says Lanka. I want to say it for anyone out

588
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:39.800
<v Speaker 2>there if because I know, I think we said it

589
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 2>last show. Oh and there's my guy Big for Influencer's

590
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:45.199
<v Speaker 2>tim saying Woolsta.

591
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.519
<v Speaker 1>You know some you know what's funny? Uh the people

592
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 1>from Worcester say Wista.

593
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 5>Original in the state says that we call it worst.

594
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I wish I had known that the Wista

595
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Centrum where I went to Motley Crue when I was

596
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 2>a Dean Shawn's Yes, I see that Seawan's audio is low.

597
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:16.159
<v Speaker 2>I cannot increase his audio. Sean, you can just turn

598
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 2>your your mic volume up a couple of potatoes or

599
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 2>or something. That's what That's what they want to hear you.

600
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:28.880
<v Speaker 2>So miss Shoty, Miss Shody since yeah that as you

601
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.360
<v Speaker 2>sound good to me. I can hear you a lot

602
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 2>of the I'm just I'm like, I'm like.

603
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Really just doing a little Woolsaw Woolsa after my big

604
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:38.559
<v Speaker 1>show this afternoon. Is that any better?

605
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I hear you, just like you guys were hearing

606
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>El Choppo when when you were listening on the recordings.

607
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 1>We were listening to Alo when he wasn't El Choppo.

608
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>He was like a little peasant from Mexico.

609
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Low level chump, or what's the other guy from Colombia?

610
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Who's the Columbian guy? You guys busted? What was yea?

611
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 1>He made his demise though he didn't arrest him.

612
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, one way or the other. DJ's a

613
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:11.119
<v Speaker 2>lot louder. Okay, I will turn my audio down, thank

614
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 2>you very much, massuorty. Communications between let's call them interested parties.

615
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Is that fair testing testing? How's this? Someone checked me

616
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>on the mic volume that's in the chat? How does

617
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:29.360
<v Speaker 2>this mic volume sound wista good, bad, indifferent? Okay, just

618
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 2>let me know, Please go ahead, miss shoddy.

619
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 8>I think that I would like.

620
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 10>To know more about Kerry Roberts and what she was being,

621
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 10>what JJ McKay was instructing her on for how long,

622
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 10>and how much that influenced her remembering of that morning

623
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:57.000
<v Speaker 10>in those events, and her opinion of Aaron Reid. I

624
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 10>think that that he's peripheral, but she was also crazy.

625
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:05.639
<v Speaker 2>She's not that part film, right, Yep. That would be

626
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.079
<v Speaker 2>an interesting one here because it seems like a lot

627
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>of some of the let's call them the ancillary parties

628
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.159
<v Speaker 2>that were there are probably scared to death to say anything.

629
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<v Speaker 2>Maza Mark Maza Media, who, by the way, whoever stole

630
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 2>his thing on the cash app or on Venmo. You

631
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 2>should be ashamed of yourself trying to you should you

632
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 2>should seriously message Venmo about that because they're going to

633
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>try to get donations that meant for you.

634
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly. So we always try to make sure the

635
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.800
<v Speaker 5>audience is aware that it's you know, it has has

636
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 5>my name in front of it, not the massive media.

637
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.119
<v Speaker 5>So I was I was trying to set it up

638
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:42.119
<v Speaker 5>a couple of weeks ago.

639
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what is this?

640
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 5>There's already one going on. I think there are a

641
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.199
<v Speaker 5>few other MASA media's out there that do exist, but

642
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. Something tells me that they probably weren't

643
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.840
<v Speaker 5>operating one of those. So that was that was needing

644
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:53.320
<v Speaker 5>to find that.

645
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, we've got to message them. But anyway, what's

646
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 2>your take on communications between the inter folks?

647
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:04.559
<v Speaker 5>Sure there was something like at foot, as a Mark

648
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:06.880
<v Speaker 5>Betterow attorney Mark Beerroll likes to say, something was certainly

649
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 5>at foot that particular night. These people were way too

650
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:14.119
<v Speaker 5>active in their communications throughout that entire night. From two

651
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 5>twenty seven am, Google searches of hustlong to Die in Cold,

652
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 5>which actually happened Celebrate confirms it. Regardless of whatever the

653
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 5>Commonwealth's witness wants to say about it, that search did happen.

654
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 5>Celbright didn't put it there themselves when they run their data.

655
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.280
<v Speaker 5>That data was accessible in their system and on their

656
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:32.239
<v Speaker 5>records for a reason, because someone had, in fact search

657
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.039
<v Speaker 5>two twenty seven am at T twenty seven am hustlong

658
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 5>to die in cold. There were way too many phone

659
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 5>calls going on between these folks and communication exchanges on

660
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.079
<v Speaker 5>top of that. You have so many deleted messages on

661
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:49.760
<v Speaker 5>top of that, and it's absolutely insane what was going

662
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.920
<v Speaker 5>on that particular night. This is why it's hard to

663
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.719
<v Speaker 5>fathom that there wasn't something going on, because they were

664
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 5>way too the communication was way too high, all these

665
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.519
<v Speaker 5>calls that were made. The JOHNA keeps to me, sounds

666
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 5>simply as we can't find his phone, where is his phone? Well,

667
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.480
<v Speaker 5>let's try to call the thing a couple times and

668
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:09.480
<v Speaker 5>kind of make it seem like, oh, we're just looking

669
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 5>to see where he was or whatever. It just doesn't

670
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 5>make any sense to me why anybody would even think

671
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.800
<v Speaker 5>that there's nothing suspicious going on, because it is fairly

672
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 5>obvious if they're just way too active that particular and

673
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:22.360
<v Speaker 5>now you get people up till four in the morning.

674
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 5>All this stuff is going on the fact that even

675
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 5>when Karen was driven by thirty four fair View with

676
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 5>Kerry and jen it's Karen that ends up noticing the body.

677
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:34.559
<v Speaker 5>And Alan Jackson even asked questions of that during cross

678
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:39.320
<v Speaker 5>examination of Jennifer McKay. If you had driven by and

679
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.880
<v Speaker 5>Karen hadn't pointed out that there was a body on

680
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 5>the front of the lawn, you wouldn't have stopped. That

681
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 5>was one of the things that he said. Oh and

682
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:51.480
<v Speaker 5>another thing about communication, It is possible to have a

683
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 5>fifteen second phone call and get quite a bit of

684
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:57.840
<v Speaker 5>information out there. It's as simple as saying, you know,

685
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.480
<v Speaker 5>you can say directions, anything like that in a matter

686
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 5>of fifteen seconds. It doesn't take that long at all

687
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 5>to communicate a sufficient amount of information in a small

688
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 5>window of time. So whoever says that that's not possible,

689
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:11.679
<v Speaker 5>just look at them. I think it was Higgins or al.

690
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 5>But I think it was Brian Higgins attorney who said,

691
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.360
<v Speaker 5>I'll talk to my client. I only need about ten seconds.

692
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, massa, don't you go and like delete like

693
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.360
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of don't you go in like delete like

694
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:27.519
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of calls and like Google searches, like after

695
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.440
<v Speaker 2>a night of drinking, isn't that what you're doing, like

696
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.000
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night. That's what I do,

697
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 2>especially if there's been a major crime committee. I'm like,

698
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:35.719
<v Speaker 2>you know what, let me just go delete a bunch

699
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.960
<v Speaker 2>of stuff just because I'm bored, and let me look

700
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.159
<v Speaker 2>at the soccer scores for my daughter's soccer league.

701
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 5>Right exactly. I always say there's only two people on

702
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 5>the face of this earth that would be googling basketball

703
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:49.159
<v Speaker 5>at two o'clock in the morning, and I'm one of

704
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 5>those too.

705
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>So that's the only thing I'll say. Is typically better

706
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Rose the other Better Rose the other one. And I

707
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>want to talk Celtics with Better. I want to talk

708
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>about with Better. I want to ask him the greatest

709
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Celtics player that people don't talk about, and I want

710
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:06.039
<v Speaker 2>to try to figure out with him who that might be.

711
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 5>I have a Sam Jones.

712
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Sam Jones is in the Hall of Fame, but they

713
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 2>don't talk about him. That's fair.

714
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 5>Stat standards was a great power for the Celtics and

715
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:19.719
<v Speaker 5>the sex.

716
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 2>DJ dj DJ is a great one. So we're gonna have,

717
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.079
<v Speaker 2>but we can't have this without better row He'll be upset.

718
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna have to wait till we get better.

719
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 2>But I want to first of all, the glare Cameron,

720
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.280
<v Speaker 2>who else here? Caveman? Thank you for these super chats.

721
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.320
<v Speaker 2>We're going to get to every one of them, but

722
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 2>we just got to get through the panel first. So,

723
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Nurse Kim, are you next? Or is a Sergeant Peter Mffy,

724
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Mister Murphy, I'm working on Kim. I'm trying to get there. Girlfriend.

725
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>What's your what's your topics?

726
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:55.760
<v Speaker 7>You want my topic?

727
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

728
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 7>I think this well. Actually I came up with two

729
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.760
<v Speaker 7>with them, so I overdid my homework.

730
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Overachiever, really do one to start to start off with?

731
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Just one started?

732
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Start it up?

733
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 5>They have too, just in case somebody who is yours Peter,

734
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 5>I have two listed myself, so all.

735
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 7>Right, thank you, thank you for that. I guess I'll

736
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 7>run with one of them.

737
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Please.

738
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:23.320
<v Speaker 9>So my question would be when, where and how did

739
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 9>Chloe get evacuated and by whom?

740
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is a great one, Miss misshoty.

741
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 5>Oh.

742
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:37.280
<v Speaker 10>Kaitlin Abbott in the in with Christian Yeah, band.

743
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Your knowledge is so good man, You're so on point. Okay, Masa,

744
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 2>what who did the kazavak or the X phil as

745
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:48.960
<v Speaker 2>we'd say in a f SoC who did the X

746
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:51.440
<v Speaker 2>fill on Chloe to get her out of there exfiltrated?

747
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:54.679
<v Speaker 5>I think Miss Shorty is very spot on. Now, there

748
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 5>could be a few other possibilities. However, the highest probability

749
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.920
<v Speaker 5>is that Chloe he was removed from that house prior

750
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 5>to any significant you know, duration of the evening, because

751
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.760
<v Speaker 5>the dog obviously was involved, you know it definitely. I mean,

752
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:12.920
<v Speaker 5>if you can guarantee at least one being, if we're

753
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.519
<v Speaker 5>using that term tonight, DJ being on your show, if

754
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 5>there's one being that was definitely involved without question, it's

755
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:21.519
<v Speaker 5>it's Chloe the dog, right, I mean, let's be honest.

756
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:24.320
<v Speaker 5>So that dog would have had to have been out

757
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 5>of there by a certain amount of time, and it

758
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:30.239
<v Speaker 5>makes sense that the dog basically left, you know, earlier,

759
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, before by the time authorities got there later

760
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.159
<v Speaker 5>in the day, well, oh oh no, that dog was gone.

761
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 5>That dog, that dog left earlier.

762
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Chloe.

763
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.760
<v Speaker 5>Chloe was maybe here to like, I don't know, eight o'clock.

764
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:41.599
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, that's what they wanted to kind of

765
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:43.840
<v Speaker 5>go for, right, to say that you had to get

766
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.039
<v Speaker 5>Chloe out of there, right. I mean it's a good

767
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 5>idea in a sense to get anybody that was probably

768
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 5>involved out of that house by a certain amount of time,

769
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:57.159
<v Speaker 5>if we're being honest here, because I mean geez, I

770
00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.760
<v Speaker 5>mean I know if someone had, like, you know, beat

771
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:02.960
<v Speaker 5>the wrap out of John inside the house and practically

772
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 5>killed him, I mean I probably want to get that

773
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:06.920
<v Speaker 5>person out of the house as soon as possible.

774
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Sean, my dog also, she normally goes out three

775
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, like you know, she doesn't really sleep like,

776
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.239
<v Speaker 2>she tends to go out and party pretty late. So

777
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:20.039
<v Speaker 2>how do you think the X fil happened? Did? Do

778
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.800
<v Speaker 2>you think like one of the one sixtieth sore and

779
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.239
<v Speaker 2>MH forty seven or a MH sixty came in and

780
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:28.320
<v Speaker 2>picked up Chloe. You know they they dropped down the

781
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.880
<v Speaker 2>uh the basket, you know, and picked her up air

782
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>lifted her out of Canton.

783
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, we we think about logically, right, we

784
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.559
<v Speaker 1>know the dog was there in the evening when they

785
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:44.599
<v Speaker 1>all came in. Right now when that morning, we know

786
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the dog was definitely not there by Jen McCall, Jim mcab.

787
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Someone called her Jen mccob in the last I just

788
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:56.679
<v Speaker 2>want you to know that Jen mccob someone coined her

789
00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:59.039
<v Speaker 2>in the last roundtable and that was brilliant.

790
00:45:59.519 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

791
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Yuh, So.

792
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 1>I would have to say two things, all right. I'm

793
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>leaning towards definitely leaning towards the fact that Caitlyn took

794
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that dog, all right, with with Trician. I gotta remember,

795
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>if Tristian was only direct about a few questions, most

796
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 1>of the question is I don't know, I don't know

797
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>what time it was, but I believe hed Finley said

798
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 1>he was asked, did you take the dog back? And

799
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 1>he Definley said no, Okay, I believe. However, there is

800
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:36.079
<v Speaker 1>also a possibility, I hate to say this, you know

801
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 1>that Brian probably did a little snap of the neck

802
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and killed that dog. And I hate, I hate to

803
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>say that, but I would lean towards the obvious because

804
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.519
<v Speaker 1>what's her name is saying? Uh Nicole saying was up

805
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and up in Vermont. So I'm leaning towards Caitlin and

806
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Trician getting the dog. That would make sense. That would

807
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>make sense.

808
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 2>So not the knight stalkers from Fort Campbell.

809
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe.

810
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 2>So no, okay, because if someone would have seen a

811
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.719
<v Speaker 2>black Fort Campbell for the night I was. If you

812
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.519
<v Speaker 2>guys listen, watch black Hawk down. Anybody who's seen black

813
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Hawk down? Those are the night stalkers.

814
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I was there, uh at Fort Bragg the night before

815
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:19.960
<v Speaker 1>they changed the name, and everyone was there for the induction,

816
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>for the induction thing. I stayed there that night. When

817
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.039
<v Speaker 1>I was coming back from Canton. My last dinner was

818
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 1>at the hillside a couple.

819
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Of Liberty Yeah it was nice. Don't Confederate general names

820
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 2>on there. Yeah, good sir, real quick.

821
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 5>Just to jump ben hair. So I would say this

822
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 5>about all the witnesses is that Tristan was the only

823
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:40.079
<v Speaker 5>witness that I felt that when he said I don't

824
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 5>recall her, I don't remember that, I felt that he

825
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.199
<v Speaker 5>was telling the truth. That's all I wanted to say.

826
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 2>The one was the one guy that was the guy

827
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.000
<v Speaker 2>We've been looking for, someone that didn't recall or remember

828
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and we found one person out of out of what

829
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:56.400
<v Speaker 2>are the sixty eight witnesses, that's great, right right?

830
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

831
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 2>All right.

832
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.719
<v Speaker 1>So I did give a little little tea today in

833
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 1>my afternoon crowd about Trician's real biological mother.

834
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh you can't just tease that, Sean. And yeah, we.

835
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Found out today that Trician's biological mother is she's still alive.

836
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Is was a stripper back in the day down the

837
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.199
<v Speaker 1>combat zone at Centerfolds.

838
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:29.760
<v Speaker 8>Beautiful.

839
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I would say, it doesn't make her a bad person.

840
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't make her a bad person. But the problem is

841
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:39.519
<v Speaker 1>now is that I understand Jay, he goes he goes

842
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 1>by Jay, but his real name is Howard. Howard Marris

843
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:49.159
<v Speaker 1>and the wife that basically raised Trician are getting divorced.

844
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:54.119
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm hearing. So listen, you know, I said

845
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.199
<v Speaker 1>to my crew today at we had a we had

846
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:58.960
<v Speaker 1>a roll call of about four hundred people. We had

847
00:48:58.960 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>a roll call.

848
00:48:59.760 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Peter.

849
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Peter was in the roll call, right, and I basically said, guys,

850
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:06.599
<v Speaker 1>this is the deal. You kill a cop and you

851
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:11.679
<v Speaker 1>frame it an innocent woman. Expect expect the laundry to

852
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.199
<v Speaker 1>come out, and it's coming out, and that's it.

853
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:18.280
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna this brother. But these two guys you see

854
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:20.280
<v Speaker 2>at the at the bottom of your screen here on

855
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.199
<v Speaker 2>your left and your right. I know y'all think that

856
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, they don't been there and they've done that,

857
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and they're not gonna They're not gonna just forget about

858
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 2>it and just it's just gonna you know, you're just

859
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:35.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna walk away from this because they're gonna keep uncovering

860
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 2>people and somebody's gonna talk to them. People have already

861
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.760
<v Speaker 2>talked to Peter and Shawn. And eventually you're gonna get caught.

862
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 2>I know you think you're not, but you will, you will. Yeah,

863
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:45.320
<v Speaker 2>her name was.

864
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Mully Kara Mullen is the biological mother's name. And we

865
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know if she belongs to the famous Mullen gang

866
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that ran ragged. I don't know up and down in

867
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 1>South Healthy, down up in Selvie. I don't know whether

868
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>christ I'm back. I think I'm in Boston all the

869
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:09.639
<v Speaker 1>time now that ran crazy back in the day, you know.

870
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>So anyways, but the bottom line is this, Uh, you

871
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.360
<v Speaker 1>kill a cop and you frame an innocent woman, you

872
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:19.880
<v Speaker 1>can't expect to help have the whole wrath of fury

873
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>amongst you on top of you. And that's that's gonna

874
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.760
<v Speaker 1>be my My machnoris from this day forward.

875
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 6>Now.

876
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And you declared, uh, you declared a continuing war

877
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:36.360
<v Speaker 2>on Brian Albert the other day. Yeah, which is a

878
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:41.760
<v Speaker 2>beautiful thing. Okay, so and and everybody. Thank you for

879
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.159
<v Speaker 2>all these brilliant comments in the chat we're going to

880
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:45.719
<v Speaker 2>get to at the end, we're going to get to

881
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 2>all the super chats and then as many because there

882
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.559
<v Speaker 2>are so many brilliant comments here, and thank you very

883
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:52.639
<v Speaker 2>much for all those. But now we have to go

884
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.639
<v Speaker 2>with a topic by miss Shoddy as I as I

885
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.000
<v Speaker 2>work on my accent shot.

886
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:04.400
<v Speaker 10>Yes, so, obviously we've just had some not surprising but

887
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.880
<v Speaker 10>pretty devastating news from Auntie Bev the Honorable Judge Canoni

888
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:12.239
<v Speaker 10>with regards to denying the motion to dismiss. And people

889
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:16.039
<v Speaker 10>have been throughout this whole trial and even obviously through

890
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:23.239
<v Speaker 10>pre trial motions and hearings, being quite vocal about her

891
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:31.159
<v Speaker 10>apparent ostensible bias. But I remember when I was watching

892
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:34.519
<v Speaker 10>a trial and I had watched pretril motions, the first

893
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:36.920
<v Speaker 10>thing that really stood out to me that she was

894
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:42.199
<v Speaker 10>meddling in things and making things difficult for everybody, but

895
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:46.599
<v Speaker 10>seemly mostly the defense was when she insisted that even

896
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:49.320
<v Speaker 10>though pre trials she had them all mark all their

897
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:54.719
<v Speaker 10>evidence pre marked numerically, and then when it got to trial,

898
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:56.920
<v Speaker 10>on what day two or day three or day four,

899
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.480
<v Speaker 10>she decided she wanted them to market new mayor as

900
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:02.880
<v Speaker 10>it was coming in, so they had to shift and change,

901
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 10>and that to me was a huge red flag that

902
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:06.880
<v Speaker 10>she was making things.

903
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:07.559
<v Speaker 7>Harder for everybody.

904
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:11.440
<v Speaker 10>So I guess I wanted to know what other noteworthy

905
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.400
<v Speaker 10>things from the round table that stood out to them.

906
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.960
<v Speaker 10>Smaller things, but you know, cumulatively that's pretty huge.

907
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:22.000
<v Speaker 5>Was a headache, thats all right, Yeah, I mean she

908
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 5>was meddling throughout this whole thing. I honestly, I've never

909
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:28.920
<v Speaker 5>felt favorable about her at all, and obviously this past

910
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 5>week to me, this just yesterday wasn't even the icing

911
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:34.880
<v Speaker 5>on the cake. I mean, at this point, the icing

912
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.440
<v Speaker 5>on the cake is about fifty seven layers at this

913
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:42.320
<v Speaker 5>particular point. Let's be honest, she is. She is absolutely

914
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 5>metal from start to finish, limiting certain things, not allowing

915
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:48.719
<v Speaker 5>certain things to be a part of the trials, such

916
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:51.000
<v Speaker 5>as third party culprit, which I thought should have definitely

917
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:54.199
<v Speaker 5>been in play in this particular case. But you know, this,

918
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:57.519
<v Speaker 5>this all really reached the boiling point when it came

919
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:02.960
<v Speaker 5>time for jury deliberations, and mediately the defense had something

920
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:05.960
<v Speaker 5>that they needed to bring to the judges attention, and

921
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 5>they brought it into the courtroom and immediately it turned

922
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:13.320
<v Speaker 5>into an absolute dogfight, no pun intended, and that's all

923
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:18.719
<v Speaker 5>it became. And you saw this judge being absolutely impatient, rude,

924
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.119
<v Speaker 5>even snapped at Karen Reid, who couldn't help herself but

925
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:25.719
<v Speaker 5>sit there. And Karen Reid was laughing, and she was

926
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.679
<v Speaker 5>within her right to laugh because she was laughing at

927
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:32.199
<v Speaker 5>an absolute charade that was playing right before our eyes

928
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:33.960
<v Speaker 5>that this is so ridiculous.

929
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Are you frozen? We lost we lost Masa, Yes, sir.

930
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:46.880
<v Speaker 5>Last night, you know, I was on the Young Jerks

931
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:51.679
<v Speaker 5>with Bianca Mmm, and she had that jury slip. You know,

932
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:55.000
<v Speaker 5>the verdict slipt and it's pretty difficult to read. I

933
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:57.119
<v Speaker 5>still think I can figure out what they're trying to

934
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:00.039
<v Speaker 5>go for. But at the same time, you know the

935
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 5>wire counts one, two, and three labeled two, three, and four.

936
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:05.960
<v Speaker 5>Why does this just say not guilty but it doesn't

937
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:09.280
<v Speaker 5>say not guilty on all counts, all the below accounts.

938
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.800
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't specify that. It's extremely difficult. So this judge

939
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:14.719
<v Speaker 5>tried to justify that this was the way we did

940
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:18.440
<v Speaker 5>things do things in Massachusetts, and David Denetti immediately stood

941
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:22.079
<v Speaker 5>up and said, well, you know, come on, that's not

942
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.199
<v Speaker 5>the way we do things in Massachusetts here. That this

943
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:29.280
<v Speaker 5>judge gives every outside observer, everyone on the defense team,

944
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 5>and Karen her whole family, every reason to question her

945
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:37.480
<v Speaker 5>and not trust her whatsoever because she's just not someone

946
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:41.320
<v Speaker 5>that can basically be trusted as an impartial judge. And

947
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.639
<v Speaker 5>it's just absolutely at this point, just more sickening now

948
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:46.840
<v Speaker 5>than ever. And like I said, delayers of icing on

949
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:49.199
<v Speaker 5>this cake are just continuing to stack. It's insane.

950
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sorry, let me I just want to comment

951
00:54:56.639 --> 00:55:00.360
<v Speaker 2>real quickly. I became aware calling all being is true

952
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Crime Unsolved our group before was during our first investigation,

953
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.519
<v Speaker 2>which was a missing woman in Pennsylvania, which is going

954
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:10.880
<v Speaker 2>to take us probably another month or two to put

955
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.119
<v Speaker 2>that produced podcast together with interviews, etc. When I became

956
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 2>aware of the Karen retrial and started consuming all of

957
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.800
<v Speaker 2>you that are on the screen right now, and I

958
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.840
<v Speaker 2>contacted a friend of me from my hometown because I

959
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm a towney as well, like Judge bev Is,

960
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:32.400
<v Speaker 2>but I'm a towney that thinks out that whose mind

961
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 2>travels outside of my own town and doesn't just put

962
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 2>everything in the context that if you're not from the town,

963
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:43.800
<v Speaker 2>we're against you. And my first impression I contacted one

964
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.039
<v Speaker 2>of my hometown friends who's been a legal law clerk

965
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:51.480
<v Speaker 2>for thirty five years, and I said, Jill, I said,

966
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I really feel like this judge is biased. I really

967
00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:59.760
<v Speaker 2>feel like she does not like the defense. And a

968
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:01.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of people now have said, I don't know if

969
00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 2>someone said the other night, it's actually Alan Jackson that

970
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.519
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't like because he's not from there. He's not

971
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.719
<v Speaker 2>from Campton, he's not from mass like that somehow makes

972
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:13.679
<v Speaker 2>you less of a human and less competent in your job.

973
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:17.199
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I've I've always thought that she was biased,

974
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:20.280
<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately I hope she would prove me wrong, and

975
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 2>she proved me right. Sometimes you want to be wrong, right,

976
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:26.960
<v Speaker 2>miss Shorty. Yeah, you're hoping, Okay, she's gonna have an

977
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.360
<v Speaker 2>epiphany of some sort and she's gonna she's gonna follow

978
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:32.519
<v Speaker 2>you know what justice is. There are people that have said,

979
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:35.000
<v Speaker 2>we've got to bring these people in. Even the lawyer

980
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, Peter said last night that that's what she

981
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:39.880
<v Speaker 2>should have done. A of you who have seen Peter,

982
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if his name is Tregos, the lawyer

983
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 2>you know so yes, So Sean, please go ahead, sir

984
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:49.000
<v Speaker 2>with with that one judge Bev Bias, et cetera.

985
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely echo miss shaughty and Masa. Now, let's

986
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:57.840
<v Speaker 1>face it, she headed in for that defense scene from

987
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.679
<v Speaker 1>day one. I mean, I'm going back to the ocean hearings.

988
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:05.920
<v Speaker 1>She particularly had disdain for both Jackson and Liza Little

989
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and you know they couldn't catch or break anytime they

990
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:15.159
<v Speaker 1>wanted something like telephone data. You know, thank god the

991
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:19.239
<v Speaker 1>FBI has the telephone data. But you know, just just

992
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the disdain she had for that team. And like Masa said,

993
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 1>he took, he took. My only comment it was going

994
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to be how she she went at krying and sad.

995
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 1>You think this is funny, mister, you know, show some restraint, Bev.

996
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on. But one thing that did surprise me,

997
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.639
<v Speaker 1>and I was extremely I was encouraged by that, but

998
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>it was short lived is when she went back to

999
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.000
<v Speaker 1>her chambers and had a discuss. You know, had to

1000
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:48.519
<v Speaker 1>think about, well this she's going to let the dirty

1001
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:53.639
<v Speaker 1>videos and statements of Colin albert in and she did.

1002
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:57.119
<v Speaker 1>She allowed all those vide like which is I gotta

1003
00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 1>tell you, Alan Jackson must have had a field day.

1004
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:03.199
<v Speaker 1>He says, I'm gonna let this out. Pull up, bitch,

1005
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:07.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna fuck you up. And I gotta say it

1006
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>was one of the greatest cross examinations of a fucking

1007
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:12.440
<v Speaker 1>punk about punk.

1008
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get tacked.

1009
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:19.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry you pull up, please, sorry, buddy.

1010
00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:22.599
<v Speaker 5>But he said silent to day, I'm gonna let me

1011
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:23.440
<v Speaker 5>put my little.

1012
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:31.360
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that the fact that he said that

1013
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 1>she came back and allowed that I was so encouraged.

1014
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:39.079
<v Speaker 1>So was one that was at least one good, good

1015
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:41.440
<v Speaker 1>thing that happened during but it was short lived. And

1016
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:44.719
<v Speaker 1>then she she definitely blew it. Matter fact, if you

1017
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:49.320
<v Speaker 1>remember when she read when she read the jury's last note,

1018
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.199
<v Speaker 1>she immediately she didn't even she didn't even look at

1019
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the defense. She immediately said, and we're not gonna I'm

1020
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 1>not gonna do this to you people. All right, you

1021
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:01.519
<v Speaker 1>guys are dismissed. She she he's saying that the defense

1022
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:06.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't even say anything about polling the jury. She dismissed

1023
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.159
<v Speaker 1>them summarily right then and there.

1024
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:13.320
<v Speaker 2>That's you know, So anyways, what does Melanie say, I

1025
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:17.159
<v Speaker 2>alone get to decide. It's my right. You know what

1026
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:20.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'm gonna use Sean Jackson a nacissist.

1027
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.039
<v Speaker 2>And I want to tell you this, this, this, this

1028
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:27.559
<v Speaker 2>competition is not looking good right now for you, Nurse Kim.

1029
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I just want to get that off.

1030
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:29.480
<v Speaker 8>I haven't talked that much.

1031
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.159
<v Speaker 2>That's okay. There you go, all right, there you go,

1032
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 2>all right, it's you go ahead and girlfriend, go ahead, stag.

1033
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:39.079
<v Speaker 2>The stage is yours.

1034
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:43.280
<v Speaker 8>I'm just joking. I know we listened to get all

1035
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:44.840
<v Speaker 8>the respects you want. I already told you.

1036
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying the competition is still on. We don't

1037
00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.480
<v Speaker 2>want to the jury go ahead.

1038
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, so I have two things. First that she I

1039
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:56.559
<v Speaker 3>thought it was unfair because we had no idea what

1040
00:59:56.760 --> 01:00:00.920
<v Speaker 3>her objections were, right, so someone would just say object

1041
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:05.119
<v Speaker 3>and she would either sustain or not when but I

1042
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:08.320
<v Speaker 3>felt like Lally would have had in my humble opinion,

1043
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:12.360
<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't have been able to say correct objections right.

1044
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:16.440
<v Speaker 3>So he was just objecting on occasion prior to even

1045
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Alan Jackson or Yanetti getting out their questions right. And she,

1046
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:27.159
<v Speaker 3>in my humble opinion, bev handheld with Adam Lally the

1047
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:30.559
<v Speaker 3>entire trial. My second thing was I thought it was

1048
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:35.719
<v Speaker 3>incredibly unfair for her to rule that the witnesses were

1049
01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:40.599
<v Speaker 3>allowed to talk about Turtle like about alleged harassment and

1050
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:45.360
<v Speaker 3>intimidation when it is an ongoing case and alleged right,

1051
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:49.199
<v Speaker 3>so like this hasn't been Turtle Boy has been convicted

1052
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:54.000
<v Speaker 3>of nothing. He's accused of witness intimidation. They were allowed

1053
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:57.800
<v Speaker 3>to bring this up in trial when asked by you know,

1054
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.199
<v Speaker 3>the defense, because allegedly they opened their own door, but

1055
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:01.760
<v Speaker 3>he didn't.

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01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:04.639
<v Speaker 8>But neither here nor there. But there was a.

1057
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Huge confusion for the jurors as it related to the

1058
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:13.039
<v Speaker 3>federal investigation and when they had to say in another

1059
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:18.400
<v Speaker 3>proceeding not related to this grand jury, I feel like

1060
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:22.000
<v Speaker 3>and I feel like it was just a huge disservice

1061
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:25.920
<v Speaker 3>because those jurors had no idea and they believed that

1062
01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:31.199
<v Speaker 3>the arca that crash Daddies were from an insurance company banks,

1063
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:36.119
<v Speaker 3>they had no frigging clothes. So Turtle Boy gets this exclusive,

1064
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 3>he talks to the you know, he talks to a

1065
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:41.400
<v Speaker 3>juror has this incredible interview. Question twenty five, twenty six,

1066
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:45.840
<v Speaker 3>and twenty seven are basically stating where this juror says,

1067
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I had no I would have never thought it like

1068
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:54.159
<v Speaker 3>any way, shape or form, that it could have been

1069
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:57.159
<v Speaker 3>the FBI or a federal investigation.

1070
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.280
<v Speaker 8>And that I get why she couldn't, you know what

1071
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:00.599
<v Speaker 8>I mean?

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01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:02.639
<v Speaker 3>Like or I get they need to be able to

1073
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:06.119
<v Speaker 3>tailor that better because there needs to be an understanding

1074
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:06.800
<v Speaker 3>of who.

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01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:09.920
<v Speaker 8>ARC is and that they work for a federal agency.

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01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:13.239
<v Speaker 8>In my humble opinion, yeah, we.

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01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Need to get those stats, Kim and see how many

1078
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:20.920
<v Speaker 2>objections were sustained, and I think you have to be

1079
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.719
<v Speaker 2>above ninety percent. But if anybody has that data, it's

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01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:28.480
<v Speaker 2>got to be above ninety percent that those objections were sustained.

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01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:31.360
<v Speaker 2>And it seemed like one of every ten she might

1082
01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:36.239
<v Speaker 2>allow something that Jackson would ask or Ynetti. She wasn't

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01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:41.920
<v Speaker 2>as difficult with Attorney Little, but she really was with

1084
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Jackson and wouldn't let him get into a groove, wouldn't

1085
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:48.280
<v Speaker 2>let him to build any momentum and break down those

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01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:51.320
<v Speaker 2>witnesses in a way that Sergio, who I hope to

1087
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:54.159
<v Speaker 2>be able to get on this show. Sergia, I can't

1088
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:59.320
<v Speaker 2>recall his last name, the federal guy who does interrogations

1089
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:03.199
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Tell guy is it Donado? Can't remember his name,

1090
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:05.199
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, but yes.

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01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:09.679
<v Speaker 1>A minute, but didn't she even she jumped lally Lalie

1092
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:12.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't even object and she said, sustain do you want.

1093
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:14.360
<v Speaker 2>To object to that? Yeah? Do you want to object

1094
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:14.559
<v Speaker 2>to that?

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01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:15.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I know.

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01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:20.239
<v Speaker 2>It's so it's so obvious and so transparent what's going

1097
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 2>on that there is nothing that is is opaque. Here

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01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:27.320
<v Speaker 2>we see exactly what you guys are doing it and

1099
01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it's so obvious. Please uh, Peter, Uh, Well, actually this

1100
01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:37.360
<v Speaker 2>is miss Shorty's question. So basically, did you see bias?

1101
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:41.519
<v Speaker 2>What's your opinion of Judge bev And and her rulings,

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01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:41.960
<v Speaker 2>et cetera?

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01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:46.679
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely an not echo what everybody else has said.

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01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:51.159
<v Speaker 9>And there were several times that what you just said

1105
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:54.840
<v Speaker 9>a minute ago, DJ that it seemed like either of

1106
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:57.679
<v Speaker 9>the two defense attorneys were on a roll. They were

1107
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:01.599
<v Speaker 9>building momentum. It looked like they had the uh whoever

1108
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 9>it was under cross up against the ropes, and all

1109
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:12.679
<v Speaker 9>of a sudden, guess what sidebar sidebar b a right, bah, sidebar, sidebar.

1110
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you, Peter, we're getting the spirit baby, there

1111
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:18.360
<v Speaker 2>you go. Yeah, right, But and then it was coming.

1112
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 9>There was controversy about the squeaky chair, like the square

1113
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:24.880
<v Speaker 9>the chair started the squeak like, okay, mister llally, it's

1114
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:27.599
<v Speaker 9>time to object. There was so many roomors going around

1115
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:30.039
<v Speaker 9>the courtroom on the half dozen times or whatever as

1116
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:33.400
<v Speaker 9>I sat in there, that you really really could get

1117
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:35.119
<v Speaker 9>a read on on what the climate was.

1118
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I can't say enough about her mas

1119
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.239
<v Speaker 2>of media. Would you please present your topic, sir?

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01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:46.320
<v Speaker 5>Sure this one. I'm comment about Peter's remark, mister lay,

1121
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:49.159
<v Speaker 5>would you like to object to that? That was insane?

1122
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:52.840
<v Speaker 5>I was insane, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 9>On the side note, I swished he had a red

1124
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:57.840
<v Speaker 9>button and she pushed it for the fire department to come.

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01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:01.079
<v Speaker 5>By, right, seriously serious, there's a little button under our

1126
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:05.320
<v Speaker 5>desk like at banks. You know, sets it off. Because

1127
01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:07.480
<v Speaker 5>a couple of first days of that trial, people were

1128
01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:09.280
<v Speaker 5>telling me that we're out there, that were out there,

1129
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:11.400
<v Speaker 5>They said, like they would just drive by every single

1130
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:14.639
<v Speaker 5>time the defense was getting ready to cross examine. It

1131
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:16.760
<v Speaker 5>would just take place every single time out It was

1132
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.760
<v Speaker 5>just nuts. It was all right, my topic is going

1133
01:05:20.840 --> 01:05:23.480
<v Speaker 5>to be uh to me. I truly feel that there's

1134
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:25.599
<v Speaker 5>many ways that if you look at one piece of

1135
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:28.280
<v Speaker 5>what went down, that you could prove Karen Reid's innocence

1136
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:32.119
<v Speaker 5>For me, I always say my personal one is John

1137
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.639
<v Speaker 5>o'keef's arm wounds. When you look at his arm, there's

1138
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:39.599
<v Speaker 5>there's no doubt about it that there are animal Those

1139
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:43.280
<v Speaker 5>are dog bites and claw marks on his arm, and

1140
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:46.079
<v Speaker 5>they the Commonwealth want to say it though, that was

1141
01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:50.760
<v Speaker 5>shattered tail light that caused that. And Elijah Little even

1142
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:56.679
<v Speaker 5>asked about how could smooth tail light create a goring effect,

1143
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:58.800
<v Speaker 5>which basically means that your tail light would have had

1144
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:02.719
<v Speaker 5>to have basically been ash arp is hell raiser's face two,

1145
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:06.679
<v Speaker 5>you know Pinheads or whatever his name was, Pinhead, you know,

1146
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:10.119
<v Speaker 5>to basically cause those kind of punctures. His arm was punctured,

1147
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:12.880
<v Speaker 5>and we know that dog teeth are sharp, we know

1148
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:17.360
<v Speaker 5>that claws are sharp. So basically my question is if

1149
01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:20.880
<v Speaker 5>it isn't tailight, and if it isn't dog wounds, then

1150
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:24.320
<v Speaker 5>is there any way possible to explain what happened to

1151
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:27.840
<v Speaker 5>his arms? So basically in theory, you know, just just

1152
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:29.800
<v Speaker 5>tell us, you know, my question at the table is

1153
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:32.840
<v Speaker 5>basically just just tell us how this could not be

1154
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.480
<v Speaker 5>anything but a dog that was involved.

1155
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:39.280
<v Speaker 2>And so this question, thank you veryon. I love this

1156
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:42.320
<v Speaker 2>topic because there's I don't see a physical way, and

1157
01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:45.280
<v Speaker 2>the ARCA guys may actually try to recreate this with

1158
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.480
<v Speaker 2>a dummy that has a skin where they could try

1159
01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:51.199
<v Speaker 2>to hit it with a like vehicle at twenty four

1160
01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:53.960
<v Speaker 2>miles an hour and see what happens. But before we

1161
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:55.760
<v Speaker 2>get to that, I just want to see to Julie

1162
01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:59.079
<v Speaker 2>if you would. Julie, star some of these if you can.

1163
01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:02.480
<v Speaker 2>There's so the suv had teeth somebody put in here.

1164
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:07.480
<v Speaker 2>This is great. Sorry, there's so many great questions here, Jules,

1165
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Can you star some of them? We're gonna try to

1166
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:12.079
<v Speaker 2>we we'd love to get to every single one. We're

1167
01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:14.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna get to the super chats and the ones that

1168
01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:17.599
<v Speaker 2>you star if you would, at the end of the show.

1169
01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:23.480
<v Speaker 2>But please, uh, special agent McDonough, what what what what

1170
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:26.519
<v Speaker 2>do you make of that about the the the injuries

1171
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.440
<v Speaker 2>on the arm, are they consistent with being hit by

1172
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:32.599
<v Speaker 2>the taillight? Which you've done some independent research down there

1173
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:34.480
<v Speaker 2>in Florida, so you know.

1174
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Beyond the research that I did, it was his arm.

1175
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:44.519
<v Speaker 1>The photos on that truck that they showed at court

1176
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:48.519
<v Speaker 1>that day was the the fining moment for me early

1177
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:51.599
<v Speaker 1>on in Okay that said no, there's no way and

1178
01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:54.400
<v Speaker 1>if you all remember, back in the early days, there

1179
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:58.159
<v Speaker 1>was a gentleman by the name of Justin, Justin Ambersino,

1180
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and he did a video. He did a couple of videos.

1181
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:03.760
<v Speaker 1>He did the one where Karen's making a three point turn.

1182
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:05.599
<v Speaker 1>He would have been on the opposite side that he

1183
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:08.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't hit him the way they saying. But he took

1184
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:13.159
<v Speaker 1>a rack of ribs and started slamming of a tail light.

1185
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:15.679
<v Speaker 1>He must have hit it at least a good ten

1186
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:20.800
<v Speaker 1>twelve times before any damage happened to the tail light.

1187
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Now we know, we know the tail light the car

1188
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:30.279
<v Speaker 1>backing into an arm. There was absolutely no way an

1189
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:35.479
<v Speaker 1>arm could ever sustain, could ever get enough force against

1190
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:39.319
<v Speaker 1>a six thousand pound vehicle sixty eight hundred pound vehicle,

1191
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:43.800
<v Speaker 1>even at any speed to crack it enough to scratch

1192
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:47.239
<v Speaker 1>it around. But see, and I started thinking about this,

1193
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:52.039
<v Speaker 1>that was the only option. Take that back. It's the

1194
01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:56.479
<v Speaker 1>only viable option of a theory they could go with

1195
01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to put out because they had to attack something. If

1196
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:02.359
<v Speaker 1>they didn't tack the if they didn't say he was

1197
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:05.720
<v Speaker 1>hit in the arm, they couldn't explain the iron arm injury.

1198
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:07.720
<v Speaker 1>If they said he was hitting the body, well, he

1199
01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 1>had no injuries to the body. Can't hit him in

1200
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the head because he was going at twenty four miles

1201
01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:14.760
<v Speaker 1>an hour and they backed into his head, his head

1202
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:18.039
<v Speaker 1>would be very damaged. Listen. The bottom line is he

1203
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.039
<v Speaker 1>was never hit by the car. And the taillight project

1204
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I made well. We proved that the tail light was

1205
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:27.399
<v Speaker 1>still intact. But like the gentleman down the street here said, Sean,

1206
01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you have polycarbonate tail light. You have double shell, so

1207
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the outer shell right protects the inner shell which has

1208
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.199
<v Speaker 1>all the housing of the wires and the and the LEDs.

1209
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:41.239
<v Speaker 1>He says, Sean, and I'm gonna tell you I quote unquote,

1210
01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:43.399
<v Speaker 1>he said, they smashed the.

1211
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Shit out of that tail light with a hard object. Oh, hell,

1212
01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:50.640
<v Speaker 2>hard object, I mean, very no doubt well, an object

1213
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:52.920
<v Speaker 2>that had no give. Yeah. And the problem, the problem

1214
01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:54.920
<v Speaker 2>for them is the human body has give right.

1215
01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:57.960
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is that it's physics. An object in

1216
01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:01.039
<v Speaker 1>motion tends to stay emotion. That's sixty eight hundred pound

1217
01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:05.439
<v Speaker 1>car would have toppled John, I mean the pirouette. He

1218
01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:07.239
<v Speaker 1>would have never he would have been down right then

1219
01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and there. And I said the other night, Sean Cabe said,

1220
01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:14.680
<v Speaker 1>And his theory was, oh, she ran him over and

1221
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:18.239
<v Speaker 1>he got his cuts under the carriage because nobody knew

1222
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the true results of the medical examiners the autopsy. Right

1223
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the autopsy, he had nothing, no broken bone, no nothing,

1224
01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:32.439
<v Speaker 1>everything was above the neck. I've seen, Peter, who've seen cases,

1225
01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I've seen car acxes. I think we've probably all seen

1226
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:38.079
<v Speaker 1>him on the side of the road. They're vicious. John

1227
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:40.239
<v Speaker 1>was beat. He was not in a car accident. And

1228
01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:43.359
<v Speaker 1>that's it. And we know that the federal government put

1229
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:46.880
<v Speaker 1>all their money, all the chips was on Karen and

1230
01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:50.159
<v Speaker 1>they spent five hundred thousand dollars to that ARCA company

1231
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:54.439
<v Speaker 1>to show that she did not hit John with that car.

1232
01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's it. It's over. They'll never convict her.

1233
01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Ever, in order to make Kim move the distances that

1234
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:04.960
<v Speaker 2>they said, you would have had to hit him center mass,

1235
01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:09.039
<v Speaker 2>center mass do Menchler explained it as the way that

1236
01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:12.159
<v Speaker 2>you would you would write, like a football player, you

1237
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:14.199
<v Speaker 2>would have to hit the person where the hits are

1238
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:17.239
<v Speaker 2>and drive. You know you know this, you know this, and.

1239
01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Peter knows this. Where do you shoot when you're gonna

1240
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:20.359
<v Speaker 1>shoot someone?

1241
01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Uh soon in the chest, one to the head, yeah.

1242
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Center mass, right, preferably right. But if you hit her now,

1243
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the guy's not going down. You hit him in the

1244
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:33.640
<v Speaker 1>hit him in the chest area, right, there's a reason

1245
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.439
<v Speaker 1>for that, but that's where the all the organs are.

1246
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:38.600
<v Speaker 1>But that's going to be the stopping power. Hit her

1247
01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:42.279
<v Speaker 1>now you're still moving. Yeah, listen, this is such an

1248
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:45.960
<v Speaker 1>idiotic something that they did to make us leap in

1249
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:49.359
<v Speaker 1>nine weeks seriously, nine weeks, ten weeks of this where

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Breen knows that, he knows that Michael Breen knows that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we did a whole episode on critical thinking. Uh

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01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:01.239
<v Speaker 2>that that that people lack critical thinking skills and something

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01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:03.439
<v Speaker 2>that used to be called there was a time in

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01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:07.079
<v Speaker 2>the English lexicon when we referred to something as common sense,

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01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:10.319
<v Speaker 2>and we've discovered that, Oh my god, it's not common

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01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:16.359
<v Speaker 2>So that's why people are in that situation. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>Nurse Kim, is it your turn to hit up that

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01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:20.039
<v Speaker 2>or did we go all the way around?

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01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I think we went all around?

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01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:25.920
<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think just as a registered nurse, his injuries

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01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:33.159
<v Speaker 3>were the reason that I got involved in the case,

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01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:36.560
<v Speaker 3>and it brought my eyes that I just said, absolutely

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01:12:37.439 --> 01:12:40.920
<v Speaker 3>I had questions from that moment, But what I found

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01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:45.359
<v Speaker 3>very interesting about crash Daddy's testimony was that the area

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01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:49.680
<v Speaker 3>of the housing was six inches for Karen's tail light.

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01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:55.039
<v Speaker 3>An Officer O'Keefe had injuries from his upper his upper

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01:12:55.159 --> 01:13:01.119
<v Speaker 3>breakiel to his mid forearm over twelve inches of diameter.

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01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:08.000
<v Speaker 3>There is no way mathematically that a six inch impact

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01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:10.600
<v Speaker 3>could have resulted.

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01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:14.520
<v Speaker 8>Even with an explosion as was described.

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01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:18.960
<v Speaker 3>By troop of Paul Sure and the explosion him going

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01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:22.239
<v Speaker 3>with the vehicle for an additional five seconds.

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<v Speaker 8>And then you know the forty five pieces of tragedy.

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01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:33.760
<v Speaker 3>It could not happen for your basic science principles, correct,

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01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:38.600
<v Speaker 3>So excuse me. That was for me the best part

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01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:44.319
<v Speaker 3>of the testimony to recognize the discrepancy in size and injuries.

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01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:48.000
<v Speaker 8>And the only other factor was.

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01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:51.479
<v Speaker 3>That, like we've said many times, guys, our arms are

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<v Speaker 3>on hinges. There is no way, as you know, Sean as,

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01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Peter Murphy and dj as the military, you know that

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01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.680
<v Speaker 3>being hit in your arm, that it wasn't going to

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01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:05.439
<v Speaker 3>happen that way.

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01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:10.439
<v Speaker 8>It's not feasible and it was never a theory that

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01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:11.000
<v Speaker 8>should have.

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01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Been developed further by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in my opinion.

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01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they and to injure the arm. They would

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01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:22.279
<v Speaker 2>have had to for him to travel the distance, they

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01:14:22.319 --> 01:14:24.239
<v Speaker 2>would have had to hit the body and that's where

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01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:26.920
<v Speaker 2>we have the bruises and where we don't. We have

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01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.199
<v Speaker 2>the lack of bruising and broken bones. It would have

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01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:31.880
<v Speaker 2>just been the arm. And obviously it looks like a

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01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:33.920
<v Speaker 2>damn dog bite. People don't be stupid.

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01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Stop it.

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01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't talk to us like we're stupid, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I also would like to I'm so sorry, guys, but

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01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.119
<v Speaker 3>there is there is no There is no range in

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01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:46.720
<v Speaker 3>the depth of injuries, okay, and when you are looking,

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01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:49.159
<v Speaker 3>there should have been ones that were down to because

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<v Speaker 3>if it was an initial impact that actually did explode

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<v Speaker 3>the tail light, you would have had a deeper puncture

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01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:59.239
<v Speaker 3>wound correct from where the initial injury occurred and then

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01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:03.920
<v Speaker 3>it diffuses out going, you know, for lighter marks would

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01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:07.640
<v Speaker 3>have gone up the arm. Those marks were so uniform

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01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:11.239
<v Speaker 3>that would as a wound Nationally Wound Certified r N.

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<v Speaker 8>Can I say it's a dog a dog mark?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say, because I don't do dog marks, you know,

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01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I only do human injuries, pressure trauma, etc. However, seeing

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<v Speaker 3>those are the uniform linear patterns in which they presented

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<v Speaker 3>on Officer O'Keefe's arms arm would give you the impression that.

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01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:37.920
<v Speaker 8>This was by one object multiple times.

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01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, And it's going from from that, perhaps a bite

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01:15:42.239 --> 01:15:46.720
<v Speaker 3>pattern or a claw pattern could have provided and presented

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01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:50.760
<v Speaker 3>in that way on the skin. It would never have

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01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:56.359
<v Speaker 3>been from a blunt force trauma and then projectile to

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01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:59.199
<v Speaker 3>other areas on that extremity.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I just brought it up on my phone. I

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01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:05.199
<v Speaker 2>was going to send it to myself so I could

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01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:08.159
<v Speaker 2>display it on screen. Are you saying like that whole

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01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:11.439
<v Speaker 2>thing like where there's scratches and a dog's nails just

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01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:13.760
<v Speaker 2>happened to be side by side and then they go

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01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:17.239
<v Speaker 2>like that, so that that wouldn't be like a tail

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01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:19.600
<v Speaker 2>light that would have like scratched his arm.

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<v Speaker 8>In your medical opinion was that the tail light does

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01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:26.239
<v Speaker 8>not shock.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye, if it does not fit, you must have quit.

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01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:33.760
<v Speaker 2>There you go. This is the I know, so absurd

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01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:37.199
<v Speaker 2>people actually believe that. People go, oh, that looks like

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01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:38.680
<v Speaker 2>a tail light. It's like, dude, have you ever been

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01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.039
<v Speaker 2>bitten by a dog? If you ever had a bad

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01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:43.399
<v Speaker 2>day and had some dog run after you and before

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01:16:43.399 --> 01:16:46.079
<v Speaker 2>you could get on your bicycle anyway, have we gone

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<v Speaker 2>I think you and and and miss Shorty of not

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01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:53.680
<v Speaker 2>so please go ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't If you're up, go ahead, okay, So I

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<v Speaker 9>can I can contribute that. I have spoken to two

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<v Speaker 9>professional canine trainers that work for police departments and have

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01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:14.600
<v Speaker 9>been in that position for a long long time. One

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01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:17.920
<v Speaker 9>of them, my guess, is qualified as an international certified expert,

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01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:23.960
<v Speaker 9>and both of them said that was those are bites

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01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:29.079
<v Speaker 9>and scratches by an untrained canine, no doubt about it, nothing,

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01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:32.439
<v Speaker 9>no other way can you explain that period And these

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01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:36.039
<v Speaker 9>people have testified in hundreds, if not thousands, of court

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01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:40.760
<v Speaker 9>cases where dogs they trained through another department in East

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01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:45.439
<v Speaker 9>Overshoe bit somebody and they brought these dog trainers in

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01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:48.399
<v Speaker 9>to talk about their training and what they how they

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01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:51.399
<v Speaker 9>trained the dog and a single bite latch on, they

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01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:55.800
<v Speaker 9>don't bite several times, they latch on once. I mean

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<v Speaker 9>it was cotton dry. These guys said absolutely, And one

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01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:00.439
<v Speaker 9>of them wasn't even familiar the case.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, what is this?

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01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:02.880
<v Speaker 7>What does this alumn look like?

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01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:09.720
<v Speaker 9>Untrained, nasty dog? And the other comment I'd make is

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<v Speaker 9>if it was if it was something under the undercarriage theory,

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<v Speaker 9>Sean knows And I think anybody knows, nurses, no, everybody

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01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:21.960
<v Speaker 9>knows that that body would have been mangled.

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<v Speaker 7>There would have been fractures everywhere.

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01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:26.760
<v Speaker 9>And the snow would have indicated that the body had

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<v Speaker 9>been dragged. If she was going six sixty two feet

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01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:33.960
<v Speaker 9>six and a half tons at twenty four miles an

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01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:35.920
<v Speaker 9>hour she didn't stop when she hit him, she would

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01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:37.960
<v Speaker 9>have gone over them and dragged them halfway up the street.

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<v Speaker 7>It just flies in the face of reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, yeah, I can bring it up on screen real quick.

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01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Let me see if I can. I'm like Sean, I

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01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:49.960
<v Speaker 2>was struggle when I have to do this stupid, I

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01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:50.880
<v Speaker 2>have to do this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's the most archaic extreme yds archaic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and miss Shorty, if you've got you can,

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01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:01.800
<v Speaker 2>you can go ahead and tackle in and I'll try

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<v Speaker 2>to get this up on screen within the next twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven minutes, exactly. Thank you.

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01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:15.920
<v Speaker 10>If there's, if there's, if it wasn't the Lexus, and

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01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:19.079
<v Speaker 10>if it wasn't Chloe, then maybe it was Jenn McCabe's tooth.

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01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, snaggle, Miss Shody a shot from shots, but totally man,

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01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:39.760
<v Speaker 2>you're out of bounds, ma'am. General Cobb. Jen mccob no, yeah,

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01:19:39.800 --> 01:19:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'll be able to get it

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01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:42.960
<v Speaker 2>up on screen. I want to keep the flow going.

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01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:46.720
<v Speaker 2>But to me, I don't know, Peter, I think you're

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01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:48.920
<v Speaker 2>being unreasonable. It looks like a tail light hit that arm.

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01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:53.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm kiddos, why wouldn't it be a tail to come on?

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01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:56.479
<v Speaker 2>All? Right? In lieu of my question, Romy had one.

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01:19:56.600 --> 01:20:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Romy was absolutely U bless us with a gigantic forty

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01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:05.840
<v Speaker 2>nine ninety nine thing here. So let me let me

1385
01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:08.000
<v Speaker 2>bring this one up. We'll get to the rest of

1386
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:12.680
<v Speaker 2>them before the end. But where here it is? Okay? Romy?

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01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Of is it romy and Michelle's wedding? I can't remember anyway?

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01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Kim so question about jok clothes, Why weren't his clothes

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01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:27.199
<v Speaker 2>put in a biohazard bag and sealed instead of drying

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01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:29.720
<v Speaker 2>the moat? See I try to add that xon in there.

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01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Is it typical to dry evidence items out before bagging them?

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01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:38.960
<v Speaker 2>It's something that always struck me as odd, beginning with

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01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:43.720
<v Speaker 2>beginning with Special Agent McDonough. Please, okay, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we always bagged all the blood items, you know,

1395
01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>from whatever evidence we collected. Now now drying it is

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01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:00.279
<v Speaker 1>fine as long as as long as the bag, as

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01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:02.800
<v Speaker 1>long as the evidence was preserved in the proper way,

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01:21:03.239 --> 01:21:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it's going to dry naturally. That's why we use bags

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01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:09.079
<v Speaker 1>because it's you know, they're porous, right, They're not not

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01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:14.039
<v Speaker 1>in a you know, a plastic container. Right, So you

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01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>put it in a bag like like even for like

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01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:20.479
<v Speaker 1>rape kits, right, you put thee to say, you put

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01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the underwear in even the guys underwear or the bedsheets, whatever,

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01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you put them in bags. You preserve everything. The fact

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01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that they listen, I guarantee if the if the defense asked,

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01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:35.439
<v Speaker 1>what was the drawing to, I guarantee is somewhere in

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01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:39.800
<v Speaker 1>between the evidence room and the coffee machine. I guarantee

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01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:44.880
<v Speaker 1>there was no one preserving that evidence. And god, god

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01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:47.800
<v Speaker 1>knows how many people had access to that evidence, how

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01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:51.319
<v Speaker 1>many people could have touched that evidence, and there was

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01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:55.119
<v Speaker 1>just listen. They never thought they had to be accountable,

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01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:58.479
<v Speaker 1>and we got to make them accountable. Yes, uh, you

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01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:01.720
<v Speaker 1>use bags, but that's a great question. Use bags anything

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01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:08.399
<v Speaker 1>that allows the drying process naturally. Okay, stopping shop bag,

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01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I know that's what.

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01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's what they use. I've heard the FBI

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01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:17.439
<v Speaker 2>where I live, that's what they used. Is they they

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01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:20.199
<v Speaker 2>also will use Walmart bags as stopping shop isn't available,

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01:22:20.720 --> 01:22:21.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>But but they'll stop shop preferred public They use publics down.

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01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Here, all right, Sergeant, I know publics is a bonus,

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01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Sergeant Peter Murphy. This next, this question goes to you

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01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:34.520
<v Speaker 2>as well, would they have dried in your opinion, when

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01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:37.800
<v Speaker 2>they have dried those clothing out before they put him

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01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:40.880
<v Speaker 2>uh and bag them is what Romy's asking. Thank you

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01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:42.920
<v Speaker 2>so much, Romy, I really appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll like what Sean said that it's conceivable or reasonable

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01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 9>to conclude that they if they had a secure evidence room,

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01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:59.039
<v Speaker 9>that they could have spread the clothing out and locked

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01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:01.359
<v Speaker 9>the door so that nobody yelt's head access or watch

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01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:06.000
<v Speaker 9>by it. If it was in a pristine, uncompromised setting,

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01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:09.439
<v Speaker 9>drying it out necessarily wouldn't.

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01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:11.199
<v Speaker 7>Have been a bad thing. I mean, depending on how

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01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:12.399
<v Speaker 7>much moisture there was in it.

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01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:16.640
<v Speaker 9>They train you to put evidence that could be damp

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01:23:17.039 --> 01:23:21.239
<v Speaker 9>or laden with DNA or blood or something into a

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01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:23.680
<v Speaker 9>paper bag. That obviously encourage you not to put it

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01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:26.600
<v Speaker 9>in a plastic bag because that creates problems if you

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01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:29.239
<v Speaker 9>seal it, and as Sean said, if you leave it

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01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:29.600
<v Speaker 9>in a bag.

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01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:31.199
<v Speaker 7>It'll eventually dry itself out.

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01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:36.159
<v Speaker 9>I don't think it's contra indicated to put clothing on

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01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:41.760
<v Speaker 9>some sort of a pristine setting, but you've got to

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01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:44.800
<v Speaker 9>make sure that the item you place it on, whether

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01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:49.079
<v Speaker 9>it's a it's a hospital wrap that's been sanitized and

1446
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:51.399
<v Speaker 9>nobody's touched it or whatever. You can't just throw it

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01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:54.199
<v Speaker 9>on a banquet table and say we'll be back in

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01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:55.039
<v Speaker 9>a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's go, let's go get coffee.

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01:23:59.000 --> 01:23:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:01.039
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say you might have been you

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01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:02.800
<v Speaker 2>know what, let's just throw it in the dryer. Put

1453
01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:07.720
<v Speaker 2>some dryer sheets in there. That shouldn't damage anything. So anyway, sorry,

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01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:10.960
<v Speaker 2>all right, so now we are done with the round table.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Romy for that incredible blessing. The rest of

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01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:17.479
<v Speaker 2>the supercats all will be read. But now it's time

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01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:20.760
<v Speaker 2>for the free for all. So go ahead, homies man,

1458
01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:22.319
<v Speaker 2>throw it away, one to the other.

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01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:29.119
<v Speaker 1>No more organization, okay, nurse why nurse Kim, why don't

1460
01:24:29.119 --> 01:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you start us off?

1461
01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Free for all?

1462
01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:35.960
<v Speaker 8>No pressure, look at all? So I don't even know.

1463
01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:38.880
<v Speaker 8>Let's let's hit let's hit these solo cups everyone, and

1464
01:24:41.920 --> 01:24:44.960
<v Speaker 8>oh no, I'm putting it to Peter Murphy. Mister Murphy,

1465
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:47.319
<v Speaker 8>could you please set us off with the chaos.

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01:24:49.319 --> 01:24:53.319
<v Speaker 7>Please please call me Peter. You make me feel, I

1467
01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:54.720
<v Speaker 7>don't know, overrated.

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01:24:54.760 --> 01:24:57.720
<v Speaker 9>When with the Mystic part in thirty years thirty five

1469
01:24:57.800 --> 01:24:59.520
<v Speaker 9>years on the job, I was called a lot worse

1470
01:24:59.560 --> 01:24:59.880
<v Speaker 9>than mister.

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01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:03.680
<v Speaker 7>So please just call me Peter. But what's what's the

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01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:05.239
<v Speaker 7>question you're to asking me? Please?

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01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean I'll throw I'll throw one at him. He wants,

1474
01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:10.520
<v Speaker 2>she wants you to start us off. I'll throw one

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01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:15.199
<v Speaker 2>at you, Peter. Something very very significant that happened was

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01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:19.479
<v Speaker 2>the what what the sort of testimony that you collected

1477
01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:25.880
<v Speaker 2>from Officer Wandless about removing the tail light, which never

1478
01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:28.119
<v Speaker 2>made it to trial. Do you think that and I

1479
01:25:28.199 --> 01:25:31.199
<v Speaker 2>asked this of Sean yesterday in a phone conversation, but

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01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:33.479
<v Speaker 2>do you do you think that you could be called

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01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:34.159
<v Speaker 2>to testify?

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01:25:34.960 --> 01:25:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

1483
01:25:35.640 --> 01:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>To that?

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01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:40.720
<v Speaker 7>To that fact, I was surprised I wasn't on the

1485
01:25:40.800 --> 01:25:43.279
<v Speaker 7>first round. Actually yeah.

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01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:48.439
<v Speaker 9>And I've also got information, I don't know if the

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01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:50.960
<v Speaker 9>person is willing to come forward, that they had conversation

1488
01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:56.760
<v Speaker 9>with Officer Wandless after I did, and that it was

1489
01:25:56.880 --> 01:26:00.319
<v Speaker 9>confirmed that when he removed the tail light, the comment

1490
01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:03.079
<v Speaker 9>was made by him to this person who I would

1491
01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:08.119
<v Speaker 9>consider pretty solid. There was just a crack in the

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01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:11.039
<v Speaker 9>a single crack in the tail light, and a piece

1493
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:15.039
<v Speaker 9>had imploded inside of the assembly.

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01:26:16.439 --> 01:26:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh so you mean it didn't produce jagged from hitting

1495
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:24.119
<v Speaker 2>O'Keeffe's car. It didn't produce like jagged shards of tail

1496
01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:26.680
<v Speaker 2>light that would have like, I don't know, like cut

1497
01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:27.479
<v Speaker 2>up somebody's arm.

1498
01:26:28.920 --> 01:26:29.640
<v Speaker 7>Apparently not.

1499
01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I think was shocking.

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01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:35.439
<v Speaker 9>Sean's got the physics down. When that car made contact

1501
01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:41.439
<v Speaker 9>with the traverse, that polycomminate, I would say would have

1502
01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:46.680
<v Speaker 9>boded somewhat, but depending on the proximity and how far

1503
01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:50.399
<v Speaker 9>the force of gravity got into the other force or

1504
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:53.279
<v Speaker 9>the other vehicle, it sounds to me like a bowed

1505
01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:58.119
<v Speaker 9>And the eyewitness that was told from the gentleman officer

1506
01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:01.199
<v Speaker 9>one was that there was a crack and that actually

1507
01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:03.279
<v Speaker 9>the comment that was made to me was she backed

1508
01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:08.199
<v Speaker 9>into something heavy and solid, meaning not soft tissue.

1509
01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Wow. I would have thought like you'd see like jagged

1510
01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:16.319
<v Speaker 2>pieces of polycarbonate that could have like look like dog

1511
01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:19.399
<v Speaker 2>scratches and bites on someone's arm. Well, I'm really surprised.

1512
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:22.760
<v Speaker 9>The twenty one Lexus has a recall on on biting

1513
01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:23.359
<v Speaker 9>tail lights.

1514
01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:25.039
<v Speaker 5>You'll have to bring you get it.

1515
01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we gotta have Karen call Lexus and and get

1516
01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:29.760
<v Speaker 2>that because we got to get the car and we

1517
01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>got to get it out of Canton, out of the

1518
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:32.520
<v Speaker 2>sally Port where.

1519
01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:36.439
<v Speaker 10>Other works for Lexus. Did you know that fun fact what.

1520
01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Your brother does Karen's brother what? Yes, Oh my god,

1521
01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:44.039
<v Speaker 2>we got to get him. Yeah, but they're gonna be like, oh,

1522
01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:47.319
<v Speaker 2>he's a he's an interested party. You know, he's he's biased,

1523
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:51.640
<v Speaker 2>so we can't use him. All right, let's go with

1524
01:27:52.159 --> 01:27:55.119
<v Speaker 2>some super chat if anybody well, First of all, Sean

1525
01:27:55.239 --> 01:28:00.279
<v Speaker 2>had some breaking news that he announced backstage. Did you

1526
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:01.479
<v Speaker 2>want to reiterate that?

1527
01:28:01.720 --> 01:28:02.199
<v Speaker 1>For sure?

1528
01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:04.039
<v Speaker 2>The audience shun Please go ahead, sir.

1529
01:28:04.279 --> 01:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>So for for some of the people, I think there's

1530
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:12.159
<v Speaker 1>a few little u roamors here, like Joe bi mofos.

1531
01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:15.880
<v Speaker 1>We're all good mofos, but Joe and this other guy,

1532
01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who they're trying to bounce out of here.

1533
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>But for those who think God that the FBI are done,

1534
01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>they're not done. I had word today and I'm gonna

1535
01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to triple verify it. Right coming off the

1536
01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>streets of Boston today from a very reliable source. The FBI,

1537
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>in fact, has seized the tools that were directly used

1538
01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in the demolition of sas at thirty four Fairview.

1539
01:28:44.119 --> 01:28:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't have.

1540
01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I don't have any more details other other than that. However,

1541
01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I do have another source that's going to get other

1542
01:28:58.079 --> 01:29:02.279
<v Speaker 1>information on it. But yeah, that's that's very encouraging. And

1543
01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you then, then not off this case. It's

1544
01:29:05.159 --> 01:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a huge, huge case. And it's just not only John,

1545
01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>it's Birch, it's a lot of different things. It's all

1546
01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:16.319
<v Speaker 1>public corruption and we know now, we now know that

1547
01:29:16.479 --> 01:29:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice is

1548
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>heavy involved, and that means one thing for Karen Reid.

1549
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Those three seventy four pages contain exculpatory evidence that they

1550
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>withhold without from her. That's all civil rights violations, and

1551
01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:38.479
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a heavy toe to encounter for

1552
01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>these people. And I can tell you right now from

1553
01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>a couple of people I've known but on the hit

1554
01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>list for the DJ Civil Rights Division, you don't want

1555
01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to be under their scope. And that's all I gotta say.

1556
01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Can I get it? Amen?

1557
01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:51.239
<v Speaker 1>You got it?

1558
01:29:53.399 --> 01:29:56.239
<v Speaker 2>All right? We're all going to read super chats beginning

1559
01:29:56.279 --> 01:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>with Mark Mas and media and going counterclockwise because look,

1560
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>get us rebels that we are there.

1561
01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:06.560
<v Speaker 5>We go, all right, the Pilgrim Shadow, very familiar with

1562
01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:08.920
<v Speaker 5>that name. I hope you're doing well. Good evening. My

1563
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:12.840
<v Speaker 5>Cadine is patrolling the perimeter for Annie Mcalbert's or mccaves

1564
01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:15.520
<v Speaker 5>that are lurking eyes in the sky. Pause on the ground.

1565
01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:16.520
<v Speaker 5>I think we read that one earlier.

1566
01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, maybe we did. I'm sorry, okay, give me

1567
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:22.600
<v Speaker 2>all right. This one, well, no, this one's going to

1568
01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Miss Shorty right here. Can you say this one?

1569
01:30:24.880 --> 01:30:25.239
<v Speaker 5>Okay?

1570
01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>The man?

1571
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:32.079
<v Speaker 8>Yes, amen, hey man.

1572
01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Thank you all right. This one is going to none

1573
01:30:35.319 --> 01:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>other than one of the big major mofos, Peter Murphy.

1574
01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:46.720
<v Speaker 7>Oh amazing group of mofos. Thank you, thanks from everybody

1575
01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:47.279
<v Speaker 7>on that one.

1576
01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:49.520
<v Speaker 2>All right, Nurse Kim.

1577
01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:53.520
<v Speaker 8>John comoheih, Miss Shorty.

1578
01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Cave Man nineteen ninety nine, Thank you, cave Man. This

1579
01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a great show.

1580
01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:08.079
<v Speaker 2>A lot of love, a lot of love to you.

1581
01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for supporting these round tables and for showing up.

1582
01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:14.560
<v Speaker 2>We really we love everyone, whether you have the bandwidth

1583
01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:17.079
<v Speaker 2>or not, we love every one of you for showing

1584
01:31:17.159 --> 01:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>up and we really really do appreciate it. You don't

1585
01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>have to contribute anything. We're just happy that you're here.

1586
01:31:22.720 --> 01:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>If you've got the band with great, If you don't,

1587
01:31:24.680 --> 01:31:30.119
<v Speaker 2>we love you all right, okay, okay, hey all loved

1588
01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>all and nice to meet you. DJ Happy Saturday. And

1589
01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>this is from I Might need myles is on this

1590
01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Glamorous Glamor suits. All right, there you go, all right,

1591
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Kim's getting in the spirit. Now we're gonna let set

1592
01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>on run away with this damn thing, all right, Masive Media.

1593
01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:51.359
<v Speaker 5>Stacey Face Travels nine nine super Chat. If you can't

1594
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:54.720
<v Speaker 5>stand for something, you will fall for anything. Free Karen Reid.

1595
01:31:56.720 --> 01:32:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, thank you, Thank you girl. All right. Next, this

1596
01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:08.159
<v Speaker 2>one is just a great panel from Oh She's Always

1597
01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Please pass the pepper.

1598
01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Pepper, thank you.

1599
01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:16.159
<v Speaker 2>This one is for our friend miss Shatti.

1600
01:32:17.039 --> 01:32:20.399
<v Speaker 10>Oh again Caveman with four thank you. The only problem

1601
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:23.479
<v Speaker 10>they would have if they would have took her at

1602
01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:27.439
<v Speaker 10>six o four then there was no tail light. They

1603
01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:30.479
<v Speaker 10>need to plant it after they got the car from

1604
01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:31.520
<v Speaker 10>Darton Nick Barris.

1605
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Oh Caveman is just doing it.

1606
01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:41.319
<v Speaker 2>So Sergeant Murphy.

1607
01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:46.119
<v Speaker 9>Cave Man again, who mixes Jamison with Ginger Ale Higgins

1608
01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:50.840
<v Speaker 9>a loser, Sean bring On fat Brian Albert, Jenn McCabe

1609
01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:55.079
<v Speaker 9>is the is the a loser and Colin is a

1610
01:32:55.159 --> 01:33:00.800
<v Speaker 9>punk that that covers a lot, That covers a lot

1611
01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:01.359
<v Speaker 9>of the players.

1612
01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:06.439
<v Speaker 2>I guess true statements one and all. Okay, man, thanks.

1613
01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:07.920
<v Speaker 7>All of the abuts.

1614
01:33:09.479 --> 01:33:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Thank you man. With all the security training I did today,

1615
01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I lost even more hair.

1616
01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:15.479
<v Speaker 10>Job.

1617
01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Kim, this one's for you.

1618
01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:20.399
<v Speaker 8>Okay, I gotta know.

1619
01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:23.479
<v Speaker 3>Give two dollars and said, awesome group of true crime

1620
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:25.479
<v Speaker 3>alive and in chat.

1621
01:33:25.960 --> 01:33:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you, there are some total gez. Thank you

1622
01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:32.439
<v Speaker 2>to everybody in chat. Thank you Jules for doing what

1623
01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>you'd be doing. This one is for none other than

1624
01:33:36.399 --> 01:33:38.960
<v Speaker 2>a guy who appears to be making hey today while

1625
01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:43.279
<v Speaker 2>the sun is shining. Sean McDonough LT.

1626
01:33:43.720 --> 01:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Thirty three five dollars, Thank you, LT. Underrated testimony. Lieutenant

1627
01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Harrock testified thirteen. Search ended when the Telly and when

1628
01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant Tully was convinced they had found everything they were

1629
01:33:56.199 --> 01:34:01.199
<v Speaker 1>going to find. LT. Thirty three That is an app incredible,

1630
01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>incredible fine right there, beautiful beautiful ty.

1631
01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:07.439
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, LT. I appreciate that you may be a

1632
01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>law enforcement officer yourself, and thank you so much if

1633
01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:14.039
<v Speaker 2>you are, for what you're doing. This one goes to

1634
01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Mark Mas of media, who's about to go go ape on? Uh,

1635
01:34:19.079 --> 01:34:21.920
<v Speaker 2>let's see cash App and Venmo. You better take those

1636
01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:25.079
<v Speaker 2>people off his damn name. There's only one mass of

1637
01:34:25.199 --> 01:34:26.640
<v Speaker 2>media recognized.

1638
01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:28.880
<v Speaker 5>Right, that's right, exactly, Thank you, DJ, I appreciate this.

1639
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:33.680
<v Speaker 5>This super chatt is from Trevor Maverick. Everyone assumes a

1640
01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:36.039
<v Speaker 5>pick of tail. It wasn't ever taken, But what if

1641
01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:39.079
<v Speaker 5>one was taken and later discarded because they knew it

1642
01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:39.960
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't cut it?

1643
01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Anybody on the panels for that one?

1644
01:34:43.159 --> 01:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very good, that's awesome, that's great.

1645
01:34:46.439 --> 01:34:51.479
<v Speaker 2>Yep. We've said during other panels that everything that was

1646
01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:56.520
<v Speaker 2>organic is basically that that just is his favoring Karen

1647
01:34:56.560 --> 01:35:00.439
<v Speaker 2>Reid and everything that is, everything that's sculled, but Tory

1648
01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>and everything that it seems that points against her had

1649
01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:07.760
<v Speaker 2>to be manufactured and synthetic, man made in one way

1650
01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:11.119
<v Speaker 2>or the other. So and maybe in Helena Raffres case,

1651
01:35:11.279 --> 01:35:14.880
<v Speaker 2>woman made for all I know. Okay, this is from

1652
01:35:15.079 --> 01:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I want to say this with my New York accident.

1653
01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Hey Glara, Hey doing Glearra. I like your show, That's

1654
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:23.720
<v Speaker 2>what I want to say. So thank you so much, Glaire.

1655
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:26.479
<v Speaker 2>I do watch you. I really dig your show, and

1656
01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I would also like to have you on one of

1657
01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:31.119
<v Speaker 2>these panels because we got to do something for Sandra Birchmore.

1658
01:35:31.520 --> 01:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Peter and I spent a significant amount of time the

1659
01:35:34.039 --> 01:35:38.520
<v Speaker 2>other day talking about Missy coming up and Sandra Birchmore,

1660
01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:42.439
<v Speaker 2>and we have to do a roundtable for Sandra Birchmore

1661
01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:46.119
<v Speaker 2>because most of the oxygen in the room is being

1662
01:35:46.199 --> 01:35:51.039
<v Speaker 2>consumed by Karen Reid. But Sandra Birchmore is an even

1663
01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:54.159
<v Speaker 2>more aggrieved party, if you will, than is Karen Reid.

1664
01:35:56.479 --> 01:35:58.199
<v Speaker 2>Uh And I know you guys are covering it on

1665
01:35:58.279 --> 01:36:00.800
<v Speaker 2>your shows, but just we just need more, you know,

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01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:04.199
<v Speaker 2>we just need more, right even though the FBI may

1667
01:36:04.239 --> 01:36:07.560
<v Speaker 2>have gotten on to Karen Reid from Sandra Birchmore. Okay,

1668
01:36:07.720 --> 01:36:10.560
<v Speaker 2>cave Man, you are such a blessing. I can't thank

1669
01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you enough. This one goes to who's the next one

1670
01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:21.159
<v Speaker 2>to read? Is it? Misshadi? Yeah?

1671
01:36:21.359 --> 01:36:23.960
<v Speaker 10>My glasses. I need to get your glasses. Okay cave

1672
01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:29.159
<v Speaker 10>Man again and always giver thank you. Question why would

1673
01:36:29.239 --> 01:36:34.239
<v Speaker 10>Jen Mcalbert called John's phone seven times within twenty minutes,

1674
01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:37.279
<v Speaker 10>only one reason. No one can think of looking for

1675
01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:39.960
<v Speaker 10>his phone after they beat him.

1676
01:36:40.199 --> 01:36:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, obviously, yeah, is that it okay? It looks like

1677
01:36:44.439 --> 01:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>the panel are nodding their heads in agreement on that

1678
01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:51.239
<v Speaker 2>this is just a yes, ma'am.

1679
01:36:56.079 --> 01:36:57.039
<v Speaker 10>They weren't but dials.

1680
01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>No, no, Well, I mean, wasn't a buttle conversation with

1681
01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:04.439
<v Speaker 2>with Higgins and Albert. So it is possible to butt

1682
01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:07.560
<v Speaker 2>dial answer and then butt d'll hang up and have

1683
01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>a conversation while Brian Albert is drunk and having Well,

1684
01:37:12.239 --> 01:37:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go any further on that one.

1685
01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>It can get a little groady, thank you, happy popup,

1686
01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Happy pop mama, because we got Mike isn't here the

1687
01:37:21.079 --> 01:37:23.479
<v Speaker 2>dog Father. I'm gonna send him pictures of my dogs

1688
01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:26.319
<v Speaker 2>because I'm such a fan. And I also have three cats,

1689
01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:29.439
<v Speaker 2>so me and me and Masar are cool like that man.

1690
01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:34.560
<v Speaker 2>So my my three are the Tiger, the Bobcat, and

1691
01:37:34.640 --> 01:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>the Black Panther. So those aren't their names, but those

1692
01:37:37.960 --> 01:37:41.840
<v Speaker 2>are their nicknames, all right, reality check who wants to

1693
01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:45.199
<v Speaker 2>I think she's trying to connect with Nurse Kim or

1694
01:37:45.239 --> 01:37:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Miss Shorty. I can't Remember who's reading this one.

1695
01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:53.880
<v Speaker 8>Remember, oh, I'm going Yes, it's it's me and a

1696
01:37:53.960 --> 01:37:56.840
<v Speaker 8>real reality check. Nurse Kim.

1697
01:37:56.960 --> 01:37:59.279
<v Speaker 3>I saw your invitation and I would like to chat

1698
01:37:59.319 --> 01:38:02.720
<v Speaker 3>with you when you're in Health Carolina, reach reach out

1699
01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:03.640
<v Speaker 3>to me on there.

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01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:08.439
<v Speaker 8>I will Okay, I'm going I'll be gone for a week.

1701
01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:11.760
<v Speaker 2>So yes, and if we're staying with a proper accident

1702
01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>at South Carolina. Right is near an R and the

1703
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Thank you, thank you, Sean. This one I picked out.

1704
01:38:19.199 --> 01:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Would you read this one from Lisa Lee?

1705
01:38:21.439 --> 01:38:24.479
<v Speaker 1>I will Lisa Lee? Just the fact Chloe live on

1706
01:38:24.640 --> 01:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>a property for seven years as DNA was all over

1707
01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>that yard. So why done on John?

1708
01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:32.039
<v Speaker 5>So?

1709
01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Why done on John? Putting the bites to the side.

1710
01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Man, I mean, I mean, if you're not investigating the

1711
01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:45.199
<v Speaker 2>house right, then nothing nothing is collected. There's nothing collected

1712
01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:49.600
<v Speaker 2>from from the from the premises other than what was again,

1713
01:38:50.239 --> 01:38:55.560
<v Speaker 2>what would be indicative of the culprit being Karen Reid

1714
01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.439
<v Speaker 2>and anything that could have been a Sculpttory don't want

1715
01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:00.800
<v Speaker 2>to see bla la la la la. We don't want

1716
01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>to talk to the plow driver, don't want to know

1717
01:39:02.760 --> 01:39:07.479
<v Speaker 2>who he is, even though apparently Jackson's a private investor.

1718
01:39:07.640 --> 01:39:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Unti's private investigator found that guy. So anything exculpatory, we don't. Sorry,

1719
01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:13.760
<v Speaker 2>we're not interested.

1720
01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:15.479
<v Speaker 9>This one.

1721
01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Uh okay, we already did that one. Okay. This one

1722
01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:25.119
<v Speaker 2>goes to me and it is Leah Baker. It's always

1723
01:39:25.159 --> 01:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>semantics with this crew, never taking Chloe. Maybe it was

1724
01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:33.199
<v Speaker 2>Caitlin Tristan got legal advice from family. I think we

1725
01:39:33.359 --> 01:39:37.039
<v Speaker 2>covered that one way earlier, so forgive me. But the panel,

1726
01:39:37.039 --> 01:39:40.199
<v Speaker 2>who is more knowledgeable on these aspects, weighed in on that.

1727
01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:40.479
<v Speaker 9>Lee.

1728
01:39:40.560 --> 01:39:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I hope that that was satiating for you. And this

1729
01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>one is from ask Blob. This one goes to my

1730
01:39:49.119 --> 01:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>man Mark Maza Media.

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01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:55.119
<v Speaker 5>All right, asked Bob, asked question for Sean. I already asked, Masa.

1732
01:39:55.199 --> 01:39:58.079
<v Speaker 5>Do you think those most pos Berkowitz and Rafferty will

1733
01:39:58.119 --> 01:40:02.239
<v Speaker 5>ever face justice? There's they seem to be teflon under

1734
01:40:02.279 --> 01:40:02.760
<v Speaker 5>any radar.

1735
01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:05.319
<v Speaker 2>I think both.

1736
01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:09.399
<v Speaker 1>I think one or both of them will, That's what

1737
01:40:09.479 --> 01:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I think. I don't see how Burkewoods can't. Maybe Helena

1738
01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>all depends on those wire tasks, but definitely Burkewitz.

1739
01:40:17.560 --> 01:40:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Wow, there you go. That's that's that's pretty strong. Miss Surety.

1740
01:40:22.479 --> 01:40:25.119
<v Speaker 2>I think we finally have one for you that isn't Caveman,

1741
01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:28.119
<v Speaker 2>And thank you Caveman for being so awesome that we

1742
01:40:28.239 --> 01:40:29.680
<v Speaker 2>did call you name a bunch of times.

1743
01:40:31.079 --> 01:40:34.640
<v Speaker 10>Yes, five dollars from Glamor. Sus Hey, sus. No one

1744
01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:38.079
<v Speaker 10>has made a claim against any of Karen's insurance policies

1745
01:40:38.479 --> 01:40:43.279
<v Speaker 10>because insurance companies investigate thoroughly. There is a good reason why.

1746
01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:48.239
<v Speaker 2>That is a great point. Yeah, that is a great point.

1747
01:40:48.239 --> 01:40:51.079
<v Speaker 2>They're not paying out any money. Yes, please.

1748
01:40:51.600 --> 01:40:55.680
<v Speaker 10>And in the jurors that Aiden interviewed with the Jura,

1749
01:40:56.079 --> 01:41:00.079
<v Speaker 10>and they assumed that Aka was she that Duror I

1750
01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:06.359
<v Speaker 10>said that they assumed that ACA was was called by

1751
01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:09.840
<v Speaker 10>by the insurance companies, by Karents Insurance Company. It was

1752
01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:12.039
<v Speaker 10>that the ambiguity was so strong there and that was

1753
01:41:12.119 --> 01:41:14.319
<v Speaker 10>what the inference they drew, which was obviously wrong, but

1754
01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:15.319
<v Speaker 10>it's an interesting one.

1755
01:41:16.119 --> 01:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, they would have paid out less

1756
01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:21.000
<v Speaker 2>money on a claim than they would have paid ARCA,

1757
01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:24.920
<v Speaker 2>So that was that would be pretty dumb on their part. Uh. Anyway,

1758
01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:30.359
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's see, just have a few more left.

1759
01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:31.960
<v Speaker 2>This goes to Peter Murphy.

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01:41:33.479 --> 01:41:36.680
<v Speaker 9>Okay, I can only see parts of this, So if

1761
01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:37.800
<v Speaker 9>there's a money issue there.

1762
01:41:37.880 --> 01:41:42.479
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to Okay, thank you for that. I gotta

1763
01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:48.560
<v Speaker 7>I gotta know. Can k O drive leave town?

1764
01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Is she held? I mean I think she means KR. Yeah,

1765
01:41:52.239 --> 01:41:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I think she.

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01:41:52.760 --> 01:41:53.640
<v Speaker 7>Means KR right.

1767
01:41:53.960 --> 01:41:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't know what.

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01:41:57.520 --> 01:41:59.560
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what her restrictions are right now. I

1769
01:41:59.640 --> 01:42:02.800
<v Speaker 7>think she has to either notify somebody or she may

1770
01:42:02.840 --> 01:42:04.800
<v Speaker 7>be restricted to stay in Massachusetts.

1771
01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:07.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that she can't drive.

1772
01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:16.880
<v Speaker 8>Excuse me, I'm I'm so sorry, guys, bless you, Peppa. Okay,

1773
01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:20.560
<v Speaker 8>how do you spell that p p A right?

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01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:20.960
<v Speaker 7>Pepa?

1775
01:42:22.319 --> 01:42:22.520
<v Speaker 8>Yes?

1776
01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Can it come back?

1777
01:42:25.279 --> 01:42:27.840
<v Speaker 8>She's trying to try and rally the troops, babe.

1778
01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:31.920
<v Speaker 3>So I was under the impression I don't quote me though,

1779
01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Is that clearly as mister McDonough said that she she

1780
01:42:35.119 --> 01:42:37.720
<v Speaker 3>does not have her license currently, but that she she

1781
01:42:37.840 --> 01:42:40.680
<v Speaker 3>could go, you know, to Florida or any you know

1782
01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:41.039
<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

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01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:43.800
<v Speaker 8>Like, I don't think that she has a restriction to Massachusetts.

1784
01:42:45.479 --> 01:42:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, that's interesting. But she doesn't have a license, and

1785
01:42:48.760 --> 01:42:50.560
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't have a car, and she doesn't have a job,

1786
01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:54.640
<v Speaker 2>which is what is so debilitating for her and what's

1787
01:42:54.680 --> 01:42:59.199
<v Speaker 2>so absurd. Uh, this one goes to Nurse Kim.

1788
01:43:01.239 --> 01:43:05.720
<v Speaker 8>Standing Stone seventy seventeen seventy six. I love it. Do

1789
01:43:05.880 --> 01:43:10.680
<v Speaker 8>you think Chief Rafferty came in sally Port when kite

1790
01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:11.359
<v Speaker 8>was breaking?

1791
01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:14.680
<v Speaker 3>That's why she like three sixty? Well, light was when

1792
01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:18.039
<v Speaker 3>light was breaking. That's that's why she did a three

1793
01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:19.680
<v Speaker 3>sixty with.

1794
01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:21.560
<v Speaker 2>The good question.

1795
01:43:21.880 --> 01:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>We got her on video.

1796
01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:27.079
<v Speaker 2>The only thing I would say is why would they

1797
01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>then why would they have Wadless remove the tail light

1798
01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:31.399
<v Speaker 2>if they were going to break it when it was

1799
01:43:31.439 --> 01:43:31.960
<v Speaker 2>on the cap?

1800
01:43:32.319 --> 01:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll take that all right. So what Wallace did,

1801
01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Wallace came several days later. Okay, what Wallace did was

1802
01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>not a problem, not at all. Really, they had every

1803
01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>reason to take that tail light, okay, because it was processed.

1804
01:43:50.479 --> 01:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>What the problem, like Peter knows, the problem about what

1805
01:43:53.880 --> 01:43:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Wareless did was the fact that he did not exist

1806
01:43:57.199 --> 01:44:00.800
<v Speaker 1>on any report by the state Police. And when you

1807
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:03.479
<v Speaker 1>take it, when you touch evidence, that's why I keep

1808
01:44:03.520 --> 01:44:06.800
<v Speaker 1>my hands behind my back. Oh you'll get this, you'll

1809
01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:10.319
<v Speaker 1>understand this. DJ. You know those red envelopes that have

1810
01:44:10.960 --> 01:44:16.439
<v Speaker 1>classified documents right behind my touching ship, buddy, I'm not

1811
01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>touching any of that stuff. Same with evidence. You touch

1812
01:44:19.760 --> 01:44:23.159
<v Speaker 1>that evidence you have to be responsible for that evidence.

1813
01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:26.079
<v Speaker 1>You're going to be on a chain of custody. And

1814
01:44:26.239 --> 01:44:28.720
<v Speaker 1>he was not on the chain of custody. And that

1815
01:44:29.159 --> 01:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>was the issue that Peter and so were they trying

1816
01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>to hide the ball? And as it turns out it was.

1817
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:39.479
<v Speaker 1>It was enough a burger for anyone because it didn't matter. Listen,

1818
01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:45.760
<v Speaker 1>car cam Reid put on six witnesses, only six, and

1819
01:44:45.880 --> 01:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>they still couldn't convict her. He could have taken off

1820
01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a thousand tail lights. It didn't matter to them. So

1821
01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:54.760
<v Speaker 1>but in the early, in the early parts of this investigation,

1822
01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:58.720
<v Speaker 1>to us, it was huge because what are they trying

1823
01:44:58.760 --> 01:45:01.760
<v Speaker 1>to conceal? And that was the thing with Peter was

1824
01:45:01.840 --> 01:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>golden on that. But the problem was what he did

1825
01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:07.319
<v Speaker 1>was no problem. It's what Procter and those other people

1826
01:45:07.439 --> 01:45:10.319
<v Speaker 1>did by not including him on the custody of evidence,

1827
01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the chain of custody.

1828
01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Would you please refer to them as mofo's for the

1829
01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:15.319
<v Speaker 2>balance of.

1830
01:45:15.319 --> 01:45:19.760
<v Speaker 5>The better about that myself, DJ, thank.

1831
01:45:19.680 --> 01:45:22.840
<v Speaker 2>You, thank you brother. We're all we're all in unison

1832
01:45:22.920 --> 01:45:24.239
<v Speaker 2>on this. Sean, could you read this one?

1833
01:45:25.039 --> 01:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Jay one Justice nineteen ninety nine, Thank you, j Justice,

1834
01:45:30.199 --> 01:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Justice for Karen Reid is justice for all of us,

1835
01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Proctor Fanning Buchanic conducted a thirty day investigation

1836
01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:42.000
<v Speaker 1>into the most egregious shooting. I'm sorry, it's the agregious

1837
01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>shooting of Justin Root, Norfolk, DA. And these investigators need

1838
01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:48.399
<v Speaker 1>to go need to go to jail in j one justice.

1839
01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you some of them are going to go

1840
01:45:51.920 --> 01:45:53.319
<v Speaker 1>to jail, no doubt about it.

1841
01:45:54.840 --> 01:46:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I hope, so, I really hope. So again,

1842
01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:03.079
<v Speaker 2>you really, as a human being, you really don't like

1843
01:46:03.239 --> 01:46:07.159
<v Speaker 2>to celebrate when something bad happens to another human being.

1844
01:46:07.239 --> 01:46:10.760
<v Speaker 2>But in this case, they are trying to force this

1845
01:46:10.960 --> 01:46:13.960
<v Speaker 2>woman into jail. And if you don't like her demeanor

1846
01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:16.119
<v Speaker 2>and you don't like the way that she screams at

1847
01:46:16.159 --> 01:46:19.000
<v Speaker 2>John O'Keefe and in Arroba or in other public places,

1848
01:46:19.319 --> 01:46:22.720
<v Speaker 2>that's fine. She's You know, all of us are entitled

1849
01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:24.840
<v Speaker 2>our bad moments. I've heard Kim say it. You know,

1850
01:46:24.960 --> 01:46:27.000
<v Speaker 2>my wife and I've yelled at each other and called

1851
01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:29.279
<v Speaker 2>each other names, and we love each other and we

1852
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:31.920
<v Speaker 2>would never leave one another. So these things happen, you know,

1853
01:46:32.079 --> 01:46:35.920
<v Speaker 2>in relationships. It doesn't unit someone wanted to commit murder, Yes.

1854
01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:38.279
<v Speaker 5>Sir, did you guys ever call each other mofo's during

1855
01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:39.279
<v Speaker 5>any of those arguments.

1856
01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:42.279
<v Speaker 2>No, but I'm gonna teach her that word. My wife is,

1857
01:46:42.359 --> 01:46:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, speaks She's Brazilian, she speaks broken English. I'll

1858
01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>teach her the word mofo and I'll see if we

1859
01:46:50.039 --> 01:46:54.920
<v Speaker 2>would like to hear you go where are you doing?

1860
01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:58.199
<v Speaker 2>You're stupid the guy I tell you no, do no

1861
01:46:58.439 --> 01:47:01.880
<v Speaker 2>parking place, No has no puck, you know, like she

1862
01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:03.560
<v Speaker 2>she yelled at me the other day because I got

1863
01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:08.079
<v Speaker 2>a ticket on base. Anyway, misadvent, She's a wonderful human being.

1864
01:47:08.319 --> 01:47:14.039
<v Speaker 2>I love her. Misadventures, misadventures book mouse. Just realize Chloe

1865
01:47:14.239 --> 01:47:14.800
<v Speaker 2>texting and.

1866
01:47:18.159 --> 01:47:20.199
<v Speaker 8>She was on the beach, Earlie, and now she's back

1867
01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:22.359
<v Speaker 8>in the car. I mean, she's a traveling girl.

1868
01:47:24.920 --> 01:47:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't get over that.

1869
01:47:26.439 --> 01:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I love it one.

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01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, all right, this one is going to

1871
01:47:31.640 --> 01:47:34.000
<v Speaker 2>mark me. I'm sorry. We're getting through these. We're getting

1872
01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:35.439
<v Speaker 2>near the end, guys, and if you have to go,

1873
01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:38.039
<v Speaker 2>I can get rid to get everybody out of here,

1874
01:47:38.079 --> 01:47:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and I can read the rest of these. I don't

1875
01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:42.600
<v Speaker 2>want to keep you. I mean, we have like twelve

1876
01:47:42.680 --> 01:47:44.600
<v Speaker 2>minutes to reach the two hour mark, and I don't

1877
01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:47.680
<v Speaker 2>want to keep you a second longer. Go ahead, Mark,

1878
01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:48.680
<v Speaker 2>please sure?

1879
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<v Speaker 5>Next super chats from mystery singer Procter and Kevin Albert

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01:47:52.520 --> 01:47:56.640
<v Speaker 5>being suspended as just the beginning. FBI has a twenty

1881
01:47:56.720 --> 01:48:00.600
<v Speaker 5>year investigation on Canton and Stoton's police departments. They will

1882
01:48:00.680 --> 01:48:04.000
<v Speaker 5>indict the Alberts and Proctor with their three thousand and

1883
01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:07.079
<v Speaker 5>seventy three seventy four report on Reid and Birch Moore.

1884
01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:09.880
<v Speaker 5>I thought about Sean, thought about you, Sean, just as

1885
01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:12.359
<v Speaker 5>I was writing this. So I'm like, yeah, that's what.

1886
01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you where my mind went Sean? Because

1887
01:48:16.039 --> 01:48:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I know you're a music guy. Only the beginning, So

1888
01:48:19.079 --> 01:48:23.159
<v Speaker 2>thinking about that song Beginnings from Chicago. Don't love that song?

1889
01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:28.560
<v Speaker 2>And you're you're a musician. Are you a musician? I am?

1890
01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:34.800
<v Speaker 2>That is so we need to have a Karen Reid band.

1891
01:48:35.159 --> 01:48:37.920
<v Speaker 2>We can get you, Mike. We need a drummer. I

1892
01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:43.399
<v Speaker 2>mean I can, oh, yes, baby, and miss Shorty are

1893
01:48:43.439 --> 01:48:47.359
<v Speaker 2>you a musician as well? I can see awesome?

1894
01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Awesome.

1895
01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I can play the drums, not all that well, Peter,

1896
01:48:51.720 --> 01:48:52.880
<v Speaker 2>are you playing any instruments?

1897
01:48:53.800 --> 01:48:53.840
<v Speaker 5>No?

1898
01:48:54.039 --> 01:48:55.359
<v Speaker 7>I could be the conductor.

1899
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<v Speaker 9>I think what what possibly we could consider is either

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01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:00.960
<v Speaker 9>when this comes to a comes to the end, we

1901
01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:03.119
<v Speaker 9>could bring everybody that's in the round table and some

1902
01:49:03.239 --> 01:49:04.880
<v Speaker 9>of the other people that you would want to bring

1903
01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:07.880
<v Speaker 9>in and we could see if we could you know,

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01:49:08.479 --> 01:49:11.600
<v Speaker 9>audition or do a live show at either the West

1905
01:49:12.119 --> 01:49:13.479
<v Speaker 9>or the Hillside.

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01:49:14.119 --> 01:49:17.760
<v Speaker 8>Perfect were the band finally will not what the band was,

1907
01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:18.399
<v Speaker 8>it was us.

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01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:21.760
<v Speaker 2>There you go see the f k R band. We

1909
01:49:21.880 --> 01:49:25.720
<v Speaker 2>will be holding live auditions. We need a drummer, we

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01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:28.760
<v Speaker 2>need a bass player, and we could have because I

1911
01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:31.680
<v Speaker 2>think Mike plays guitar, masa. Are you playing any instruments?

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01:49:32.079 --> 01:49:32.399
<v Speaker 2>I can?

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<v Speaker 5>I can sing a little bit, that's about it. Maybe

1914
01:49:34.560 --> 01:49:35.920
<v Speaker 5>be a bodyguard or a bouncer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what a baritone you are.

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01:49:39.079 --> 01:49:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can be the front of house for us.

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01:49:41.399 --> 01:49:43.399
<v Speaker 1>You could be the front of house. You can do

1918
01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the lighting and the and the sound from the front

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01:49:48.279 --> 01:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of house.

1920
01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Always a big he has a big media voice. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>He should be on like major media man. Jesus, thank you. Yeah.

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01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:05.159
<v Speaker 10>Oh yes, Mass is our voice steady?

1923
01:50:05.199 --> 01:50:05.720
<v Speaker 2>When we in.

1924
01:50:07.359 --> 01:50:09.399
<v Speaker 10>I always put his voice steady?

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01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, uh could you read this one, miss Shady?

1926
01:50:13.439 --> 01:50:14.960
<v Speaker 10>Is it not the same one as the last one?

1927
01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it is it is the same one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me go to the next one.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, so j one Justice, I can't see the dollars

1930
01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:28.399
<v Speaker 10>there either. Is that just a question? Norfolk d yes? Okay?

1931
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<v Speaker 10>So Norfolk da hung Justin Justin's bloody clothes on?

1932
01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Hang it.

1933
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<v Speaker 10>When Fanny was asked why Roots ship it was not

1934
01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:38.920
<v Speaker 10>that bloody, he responded that it could have been dry cleaned.

1935
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<v Speaker 2>Say what, I don't know the Justin Root case. So

1936
01:50:46.199 --> 01:50:48.560
<v Speaker 2>you'll have to forgive me on that. I'm not smarter

1937
01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:52.199
<v Speaker 2>in that. I don't know if anybody is, but I

1938
01:50:52.279 --> 01:50:52.880
<v Speaker 2>guess this.

1939
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<v Speaker 1>He it real quick, Yeah, take five minutes right Justin.

1940
01:50:56.760 --> 01:50:59.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was living in that appen my all

1941
01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:02.680
<v Speaker 1>little stomping grounds, and he had some he had some

1942
01:51:02.800 --> 01:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>mental health issues. So he ended up going downtown Boston

1943
01:51:06.199 --> 01:51:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to where she's talk Tom Flemings in the house.

1944
01:51:10.079 --> 01:51:10.199
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

1945
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<v Speaker 1>He went to a hospital downtown Boston, and he had

1946
01:51:14.760 --> 01:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>gotten to a little skirmish with the with the guards.

1947
01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Someone said he had a gun, Well, he had a

1948
01:51:19.800 --> 01:51:22.520
<v Speaker 1>plastic gun, a toy gun bb gun, and there was

1949
01:51:22.520 --> 01:51:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a shootout. The cops shot at him and missed him

1950
01:51:25.840 --> 01:51:28.039
<v Speaker 1>hit another cop. He get into a car. There was

1951
01:51:28.079 --> 01:51:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a high speed chase and went into Brookline. He crashed,

1952
01:51:31.840 --> 01:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>gets out of the car, and the end the story

1953
01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:39.560
<v Speaker 1>is he got blasted. I feel awful thirty thirty two

1954
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<v Speaker 1>to thirty three times.

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01:51:43.159 --> 01:51:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and just for having the toy gun. Is

1956
01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:46.920
<v Speaker 2>that essentially what it is? You know?

1957
01:51:47.159 --> 01:51:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I mean they were they were very

1958
01:51:50.840 --> 01:51:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Robin Bailey, Yeah, out of Pans Angeles. They were very Listen.

1959
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<v Speaker 1>I heard the radio dispatch, you know, the shots fired. Uh,

1960
01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:05.239
<v Speaker 1>police officer down, man down, So that gets everyone high strung,

1961
01:52:05.359 --> 01:52:08.600
<v Speaker 1>high charge. And then right before the cops got on

1962
01:52:08.680 --> 01:52:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the scene, there was a first responder like nurse or

1963
01:52:12.079 --> 01:52:15.479
<v Speaker 1>doctor or maybe off to the police officer that came

1964
01:52:15.560 --> 01:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to his aid because he got out of the car

1965
01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:21.279
<v Speaker 1>and he stumbled. I saw the whole thing. I've been

1966
01:52:21.359 --> 01:52:24.039
<v Speaker 1>I've been really looking at this, and it's it's under

1967
01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the DA Okay. The problem is when you have a

1968
01:52:28.079 --> 01:52:31.760
<v Speaker 1>big chase like that and it's pumped up, one guy fires,

1969
01:52:32.720 --> 01:52:35.039
<v Speaker 1>I hate to say it, you know how it goes.

1970
01:52:35.159 --> 01:52:39.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think there was some crossfire, but he clearly

1971
01:52:39.680 --> 01:52:45.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't shoot anyone because he had an inoperable gun. So sad,

1972
01:52:45.399 --> 01:52:51.159
<v Speaker 1>very very sad, very sad. Case. And like I said, now,

1973
01:52:51.239 --> 01:52:55.119
<v Speaker 1>on the contrary, one quick thing, we had a DEA

1974
01:52:55.239 --> 01:53:01.520
<v Speaker 1>agent Miami and he shot many times at these bad guys. Right,

1975
01:53:02.039 --> 01:53:03.720
<v Speaker 1>So he was on the stand and one of the

1976
01:53:03.800 --> 01:53:09.159
<v Speaker 1>defense attorney goes, agent White, why did you shoot my

1977
01:53:09.279 --> 01:53:12.199
<v Speaker 1>client twenty two times? He says, because I ran out

1978
01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:12.760
<v Speaker 1>of bullets.

1979
01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1980
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean if he had more bullets, he would

1981
01:53:17.880 --> 01:53:21.039
<v Speaker 1>have shot more because he was under fire himself. So anyways,

1982
01:53:22.039 --> 01:53:24.079
<v Speaker 1>like those two people got that must be too late,

1983
01:53:24.359 --> 01:53:26.479
<v Speaker 1>he says, because I had I ran out of bullets.

1984
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<v Speaker 2>No, I totally got that, man, I totally got that.

1985
01:53:31.159 --> 01:53:33.479
<v Speaker 2>I've heard that a number of.

1986
01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Times several officers. You know, It's just it's a tough case.

1987
01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>It is a tough case. I feel bad for the

1988
01:53:39.359 --> 01:53:43.479
<v Speaker 1>root family, but I'd like to do a deeper dive

1989
01:53:43.560 --> 01:53:43.760
<v Speaker 1>on it.

1990
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<v Speaker 2>I really would, And thank thank you for bringing that up,

1991
01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:49.600
<v Speaker 2>because we'd be happy to If John's happy to tackle it.

1992
01:53:49.960 --> 01:53:51.560
<v Speaker 2>I think there's seven or all of the rest that

1993
01:53:51.640 --> 01:53:54.279
<v Speaker 2>are also happy to tackle him. By the way, I

1994
01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:56.399
<v Speaker 2>think the next one in this panel that's probably going

1995
01:53:56.479 --> 01:53:59.560
<v Speaker 2>to go to law school is probably gonna be nurse Kim. Anyway,

1996
01:54:01.279 --> 01:54:06.520
<v Speaker 2>where's the blood, great wealth, Peter and three leaders of blood.

1997
01:54:06.640 --> 01:54:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Where is it?

1998
01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well guess what God knows what they found downstairs

1999
01:54:12.640 --> 01:54:13.279
<v Speaker 1>in the basement.

2000
01:54:14.840 --> 01:54:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a whole bunch of Yeah. I prayed that they did.

2001
01:54:19.560 --> 01:54:22.279
<v Speaker 2>I pray that someone found a little bit of John's

2002
01:54:22.279 --> 01:54:26.840
<v Speaker 2>blood down there and then the case is over. So Lally,

2003
01:54:27.319 --> 01:54:29.600
<v Speaker 2>first of all, Gina g thank you so much for

2004
01:54:29.680 --> 01:54:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the fiver. Lanley lost a twenty seventeen trial of Yang

2005
01:54:34.039 --> 01:54:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Long Chow and Bev was the presiding judge. Is anyone

2006
01:54:37.399 --> 01:54:43.720
<v Speaker 2>familiar with that case? No, okay not it is surprising,

2007
01:54:43.880 --> 01:54:48.039
<v Speaker 2>but I still I don't sorry, find some buyas there,

2008
01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Janelle Grace, the all staff panel needs app no once

2009
01:54:52.319 --> 01:54:54.319
<v Speaker 2>a week. We can't do this. It's too much band within,

2010
01:54:54.359 --> 01:54:56.720
<v Speaker 2>too much energy. But we will do another one. And

2011
01:54:56.800 --> 01:54:59.079
<v Speaker 2>the next one is going to be Sander Birch Moore

2012
01:54:59.159 --> 01:55:03.680
<v Speaker 2>for sure. And I've talked to Missy and and Anita

2013
01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:05.479
<v Speaker 2>Dave on that show to.

2014
01:55:06.199 --> 01:55:08.359
<v Speaker 3>DJ if you can my day of Dave Cullin, I

2015
01:55:08.399 --> 01:55:12.640
<v Speaker 3>would love to. He produced the case to season two

2016
01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:14.560
<v Speaker 3>from Bostool Sports.

2017
01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:15.880
<v Speaker 8>On on Sandra.

2018
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<v Speaker 2>That was amazing. That was amazing. Yeah, okay, So I

2019
01:55:21.760 --> 01:55:24.520
<v Speaker 2>will coordinate with you for Dave I know Peter is

2020
01:55:24.560 --> 01:55:27.520
<v Speaker 2>going to be on it, and Missy is going to

2021
01:55:27.560 --> 01:55:29.399
<v Speaker 2>be on it, and I just want to get like

2022
01:55:30.399 --> 01:55:35.600
<v Speaker 2>she's amazing that the so the when this girl speaks

2023
01:55:35.640 --> 01:55:39.840
<v Speaker 2>about Sandra birchmore to me as as somebody who considers

2024
01:55:39.880 --> 01:55:42.600
<v Speaker 2>himself a little bit of an EmPATH, she's fighting back

2025
01:55:42.680 --> 01:55:46.920
<v Speaker 2>tears every single time she talks about that case. She's

2026
01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:50.840
<v Speaker 2>fighting back real tears over the loss of that girl

2027
01:55:50.920 --> 01:55:54.079
<v Speaker 2>and her baby. And that should strike all of you

2028
01:55:55.439 --> 01:55:58.760
<v Speaker 2>what a wonderful human being she is. And Peter shared

2029
01:55:58.840 --> 01:56:01.560
<v Speaker 2>some other some other things. Would me that even gives

2030
01:56:01.640 --> 01:56:03.680
<v Speaker 2>me additional respect for Missy.

2031
01:56:04.479 --> 01:56:07.279
<v Speaker 9>Right, just as a point of info too, She's got

2032
01:56:07.359 --> 01:56:11.760
<v Speaker 9>to stand out organized tomorrow from I want to say,

2033
01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:16.880
<v Speaker 9>two to two to five, perhaps in Canton.

2034
01:56:21.079 --> 01:56:21.720
<v Speaker 7>For Sandra.

2035
01:56:21.880 --> 01:56:23.680
<v Speaker 9>Yes, in front of the town in front of the

2036
01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:26.640
<v Speaker 9>Canton town Hall. And as I think it's been mentioned

2037
01:56:27.199 --> 01:56:30.760
<v Speaker 9>to this group, and I think we are aware of

2038
01:56:30.800 --> 01:56:31.880
<v Speaker 9>it at least this circle.

2039
01:56:32.199 --> 01:56:34.640
<v Speaker 7>Uh, the both cases.

2040
01:56:34.720 --> 01:56:38.239
<v Speaker 9>I think Sean's indicated comment on both both cases, I

2041
01:56:38.399 --> 01:56:40.640
<v Speaker 9>joined at the hip as far as a lot of

2042
01:56:40.680 --> 01:56:45.359
<v Speaker 9>the investigators and obviously the DA's office, the troopers.

2043
01:56:47.319 --> 01:56:50.319
<v Speaker 7>Both decedents were in the town of Canton.

2044
01:56:50.760 --> 01:56:53.600
<v Speaker 9>So tomorrow is going to be a pretty significant day,

2045
01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:57.119
<v Speaker 9>and Missy travels a long distance to make these standouts

2046
01:56:57.119 --> 01:56:57.680
<v Speaker 9>for herself.

2047
01:56:58.960 --> 01:56:59.640
<v Speaker 10>Thank you, Missy.

2048
01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Just spit a comment. Can I make a comment real quick, please, sir.

2049
01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I just want to tell Tom Flanney, I'm taking my

2050
01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:08.479
<v Speaker 1>plane up to Pensacola tomorrow. If you'd like to meet me,

2051
01:57:08.600 --> 01:57:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I could, or I could fly up and pick you up.

2052
01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to meet in Pensacola? Tom?

2053
01:57:13.560 --> 01:57:14.159
<v Speaker 7>What are we doing?

2054
01:57:14.399 --> 01:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a private joke, that's all private.

2055
01:57:18.239 --> 01:57:20.680
<v Speaker 8>I love it, all right, Tommy, Tommy boy.

2056
01:57:22.159 --> 01:57:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes, ironically, there were no Cala pieces found in solo cups.

2057
01:57:26.239 --> 01:57:28.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you'd have thought the backpack blower would have

2058
01:57:28.359 --> 01:57:30.199
<v Speaker 2>blown them all the way over to keller Her lawn.

2059
01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:32.319
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, I don't know what the hell happened,

2060
01:57:32.319 --> 01:57:35.439
<v Speaker 2>But I would always think that police officers would go

2061
01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:38.479
<v Speaker 2>to a scene with a backpack blower because certainly none

2062
01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:40.760
<v Speaker 2>of the evidence would be disturbed by that. I don't

2063
01:57:40.800 --> 01:57:44.600
<v Speaker 2>think so, you know, I didn't go to detective school.

2064
01:57:44.680 --> 01:57:46.880
<v Speaker 2>But all right, there's only one person on this panel

2065
01:57:47.039 --> 01:57:49.680
<v Speaker 2>qualified to read this one right here, and it is,

2066
01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:50.840
<v Speaker 2>of course, Nurse kim.

2067
01:57:51.279 --> 01:57:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh Mindy gives four ninety nine. Thank you so much, Mindy.

2068
01:57:55.199 --> 01:57:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Can we get a a Giannifer Murcay from us smart

2069
01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:01.800
<v Speaker 3>your pretty best friend from out of town.

2070
01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:03.560
<v Speaker 8>I love your face, Mandy.

2071
01:58:05.399 --> 01:58:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Nice.

2072
01:58:07.520 --> 01:58:11.239
<v Speaker 2>This one right here, Thank you very much. Jenny Caswell Hall,

2073
01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:14.479
<v Speaker 2>great panel. Caring is factually innocent. And you know that

2074
01:58:15.960 --> 01:58:18.840
<v Speaker 2>last couple here, Kelly Reid in that.

2075
01:58:21.520 --> 01:58:23.399
<v Speaker 4>Kelly Kelly.

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01:58:25.119 --> 01:58:25.279
<v Speaker 8>Kell.

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01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's go to Sean on this one.

2078
01:58:29.479 --> 01:58:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Reid for Hi, everyone, great show, great panel. Justice

2079
01:58:34.399 --> 01:58:35.399
<v Speaker 1>is coming.

2080
01:58:36.399 --> 01:58:37.640
<v Speaker 5>Hey man, Karen Reid.

2081
01:58:38.960 --> 01:58:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Good to meet you, Miss Kelly Reid. I've never had

2082
01:58:41.199 --> 01:58:43.560
<v Speaker 2>you in our chat before and it's an honor that

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<v Speaker 2>you're here and we're hoping that we can find justice

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<v Speaker 2>for your sister. This one right here to Mesa all right?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, Christopher Borrow, never heard of him, Never heard of him.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know who this guy is. But great panel.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>International Standout Labor Day. Check the sites for check the

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<v Speaker 5>site for details. That's free. Karen Reids Standouts dot Com

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<v Speaker 5>again free, Aaron Reid Standouts dot Com. Also I should

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<v Speaker 5>note the just checked that list, but there's a tab

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<v Speaker 5>right at the top right. It's a Standout let's click

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01:59:19.039 --> 01:59:21.079
<v Speaker 5>on that and you can find out all the local

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01:59:21.159 --> 01:59:24.800
<v Speaker 5>standouts that are occurring tomorrow and in the future as well.

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<v Speaker 5>They're updating that that website frequently here, so it's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be great. Paul is a great man, and he's been

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<v Speaker 5>working tirelessly with the media, a lot of media relations

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01:59:34.560 --> 01:59:38.319
<v Speaker 5>don contacting the news outlets, letting them know about our standouts,

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01:59:38.399 --> 01:59:40.319
<v Speaker 5>letting them know about what we're doing as a as

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<v Speaker 5>a a group large group of supporters of Karen Reid.

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<v Speaker 5>So hats off to Paul, you're the man. Kelly Reid,

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<v Speaker 5>shout out to you as well.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Can I get on all right this one?

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<v Speaker 10>Before we move on, can I just say with regards

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<v Speaker 10>to standouts, because we have two dot people in the

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<v Speaker 10>chat here, I'm actually myself and a couple of other

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<v Speaker 10>Aussies are organizing nationwide. Free can read stand out on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 10>September September the first, So next Sunday, there's one already

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<v Speaker 10>in Melbourne at ten am already organized.

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<v Speaker 8>That's me.

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<v Speaker 10>There's a Hobart standout which is in Tasmania, the capital

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<v Speaker 10>city of Tasmania ten am. Also the details for meeting

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<v Speaker 10>points for both are on that Standout website, so have

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<v Speaker 10>a look. But if there's anybody in Australia who lives

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<v Speaker 10>in any of the other capital cities that a year

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<v Speaker 10>now in the chat or replay crew.

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<v Speaker 7>Love you.

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<v Speaker 10>Sydney, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide, Canberra. We'd love to make this

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<v Speaker 10>a nationwide thing at the same time, Sunday, the first

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<v Speaker 10>of September at ten am. Easy peasy. I've got my

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02:00:50.159 --> 02:00:55.000
<v Speaker 10>paints and cardboard ready to make my signs later after

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<v Speaker 10>this live has ended, signs. And I just think we

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<v Speaker 10>should really know, like we're all here watching stras were

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<v Speaker 10>very much invested in this case and in Karen Reid's

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02:01:05.159 --> 02:01:08.319
<v Speaker 10>innocence and in you know, shining a light on the corruption.

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<v Speaker 10>Australians hate corruption and they always go for the underdogs.

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<v Speaker 10>So if anybody would like to be a representative in

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<v Speaker 10>their couple of city or come along to either of

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<v Speaker 10>the existing standouts next Sunday, ten am, yep, dm me

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<v Speaker 10>on Twitter or email me. My email is on my channel.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just want to say that and I'll put it.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, everybody that you see appearing today, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>miss Shorty, everybody that's here on the channel, their stuff

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<v Speaker 2>will be in my show notes. So if you go

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<v Speaker 2>to the show notes for this episode later tonight, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>have and every content creator and you have someone on

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<v Speaker 2>your show put their damn stuff in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't let me go search for Mizzi. I should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to find her in your show notes if she

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<v Speaker 2>don't spend an hour with you anyway, Masa, I know

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02:01:56.279 --> 02:01:58.880
<v Speaker 2>you're inspired by what you just heard because just to

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02:01:59.000 --> 02:02:02.319
<v Speaker 2>your left you've seen someone who is as passionate about

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<v Speaker 2>this as you are.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, absolutely, but Shorty's done an awesome job and

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02:02:07.600 --> 02:02:09.800
<v Speaker 5>it's so awesome to just not only see how this

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<v Speaker 5>following of Karen and supporting Karen evolved outside of the state,

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02:02:13.960 --> 02:02:18.000
<v Speaker 5>across the state of Massachusetts, across the Northeast, across the country,

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02:02:18.119 --> 02:02:20.600
<v Speaker 5>and then internationally when we found out that we not

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<v Speaker 5>only had a big Karen Reid contingent in the UK,

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<v Speaker 5>but also down in Australia, which is one of the

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<v Speaker 5>most beautiful countries on earth that I've never been to.

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<v Speaker 5>But Australia, we love you, guys, and this Shorty, You've

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02:02:32.479 --> 02:02:35.760
<v Speaker 5>just done an awesome job. You've been fantastic and just

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<v Speaker 5>a special acknowledgment to you for all you've done.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you, Please please, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 10>So when the popcorn Karen went raising funds for Karen's

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<v Speaker 10>Defense Fund, which has been an ongoing, amazing thing that

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<v Speaker 10>has been happening, and people have been donating to Karen's

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02:02:54.439 --> 02:02:57.119
<v Speaker 10>Defense Fund and venmos to her. Then when the whole

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<v Speaker 10>popcorn got shut down. I know it's been reinstated now,

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<v Speaker 10>but I had this thought that that I wouldn't to

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02:03:03.680 --> 02:03:05.920
<v Speaker 10>be able to do something. Was before the standouts were

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02:03:05.960 --> 02:03:08.920
<v Speaker 10>being organized. I wanted to do something from over here

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<v Speaker 10>in Australia, and so had I had designed a free

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<v Speaker 10>car and read like like a little like a graphic

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<v Speaker 10>and so I made I printed off two hundred stickers. Yeah,

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02:03:21.600 --> 02:03:23.600
<v Speaker 10>there's only two hundred of them free car and read

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02:03:23.640 --> 02:03:27.960
<v Speaker 10>bumper stickers. I bought pinkoes and pink thank you cards

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02:03:29.000 --> 02:03:32.920
<v Speaker 10>and they've now been mostly all shipped to some helpers

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<v Speaker 10>in the US so they can post them internally. So

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<v Speaker 10>what the way, it's a fundraiser for Karen. So if

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<v Speaker 10>anybody would like one of these Massurey custom stickers, limited edition,

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<v Speaker 10>if you make a donation to Karen's Defense Fund. I

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<v Speaker 10>don't there's no I'm not touching the money. There's nothing

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02:03:48.399 --> 02:03:51.439
<v Speaker 10>dodgy about this. If you were to send a donation

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02:03:51.920 --> 02:03:57.079
<v Speaker 10>ten dollars plus, we'll get you one sticker fifty dollars plus,

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<v Speaker 10>get you two one hundred dollars plus, get you one

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<v Speaker 10>entry per person. And then if you screenshot your donation

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02:04:04.239 --> 02:04:07.359
<v Speaker 10>and again email it Tommy DM me on Twitter with

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02:04:07.520 --> 02:04:10.359
<v Speaker 10>your postal address, that would be sent out immediately. So

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<v Speaker 10>get on it, like I'm over here. I'm over here

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02:04:13.560 --> 02:04:15.880
<v Speaker 10>from down Under trying to do my little thing, and

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<v Speaker 10>it would be really amazing if people could get on board.

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<v Speaker 10>And it's a pretty cool thing, really high quality, custom designed.

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<v Speaker 3>That that I'll take you too, miss Shorty, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>send you my screenshot for my donation tonight.

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<v Speaker 10>I love you face.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all over it like gravy on race. H thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>miss Shorty. I'm in for one.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh this.

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<v Speaker 2>This lady right here wanted to hear me pronounce her

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<v Speaker 2>name because obviously last time Sarah I pronounced it incorrectly

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<v Speaker 2>without the Massachusetts accent. So it's Sarah and Sarah in

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<v Speaker 2>Shock and Horror. So tell me tell me later on

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah if I got that correct Sarah and Shock and horror.

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<v Speaker 1>No DJ, Yes, Sad, Sad, Sarah, Sarah, Hey, Sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I blew it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm blew in shocking, all shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>I blew its. I blew it. Sarah a shock in horror.

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<v Speaker 2>I blew it. But I am in training after all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm a trainee of of of nurse Kim and

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<v Speaker 2>and Sean. I am not at that expert. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I can tell you when I went to Dean College,

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<v Speaker 2>I could do the accent pretty well because I was

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<v Speaker 2>listening to my teammates every every single day. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so who drove the Ford Edge? I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>does anybody have anything for who drove the Ford Edge?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes? I do. It was Chloe the dog on our

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<v Speaker 5>way to Vermont.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so difficult edge.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm driving the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many Ford Edges you can you can have

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<v Speaker 1>a Monopoly game on that, right.

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<v Speaker 7>Peter, Yeah, you could, Seohan.

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<v Speaker 9>But I think there's some information out which I'm not

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<v Speaker 9>gonna touch right now. But I think you know what

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<v Speaker 9>I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on, Peter, give it up to you. Buddy spilled.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, No, he's got his sauces.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is for shot, you know, Dina, Dina Blina,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, Dina Blina. Steve Scaling has always been

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<v Speaker 1>the strongest, absolute, strongest piece of evidence to me. Me too,

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<v Speaker 1>because I really believe if it wasn't for Steve Scaling

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<v Speaker 1>and that little darling he holds close to his heart,

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<v Speaker 1>he risked it all by by spilling the tea against

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<v Speaker 1>his old buddy Brian Alibert. Let me tell you that's

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<v Speaker 1>how it went. And then you had Tommy Tommy Beatty,

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<v Speaker 1>tom Beatty on the other end coming in with Erin,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how this thing got teed up. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. Tommy Fleming can can deny it all he wants,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is how it all went down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, unfortunately, the critical thinking piece, the common sense piece,

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<v Speaker 2>just as happened, and this one Nurse Kim sure Nikki.

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<v Speaker 3>Mick seven gave ten dollars, thank you so much, Lovey.

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<v Speaker 3>When looking for someone, the logical thing, the logical thing.

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<v Speaker 8>Is to call the local.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, call the local. You last witnessed him?

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<v Speaker 3>Who last witnessed him? Jen m never calls the Alberts

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<v Speaker 3>house to ask if John arrived later or asked them

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<v Speaker 3>to look outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Thoughts awesome, great great great point, great point, great point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean she said she called those and Chris Jen New.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Jen New Yeah, thank you. JD. Gossa great panel.

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<v Speaker 2>Nurse Kim the corrupting to Van Halen.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, mister Monk's understudy.

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<v Speaker 3>You you so, the fifty one fifty is a section

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<v Speaker 3>twelve in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. And let me let

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<v Speaker 3>you know that I have reached out to the one

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<v Speaker 3>and only David Natty and I would really like to

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<v Speaker 3>go through the good Sam.

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<v Speaker 8>I want to see the medical records.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's like probably not necessary, but I am

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<v Speaker 3>a legal nurse consultant.

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<v Speaker 8>And the way that this was conducted.

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<v Speaker 3>The physician, the er doc right Justin should be ashamed

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<v Speaker 3>of himself because he not only took care of Officer

2258
02:08:32.560 --> 02:08:35.039
<v Speaker 3>John O'Keeffe, but he also took care of Karen Reid.

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<v Speaker 3>Now what he didn't even remember? Okay, he had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>His documentation was so lackluster.

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<v Speaker 8>When I tell you that, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Clutched my proverbial pearls my friends upon his testimony. I'm watching,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking, and I'm saying, he's gonna get it together

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<v Speaker 3>because I have a lot of you know, respect for

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02:08:57.359 --> 02:08:59.119
<v Speaker 3>emergency room physicians, and.

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<v Speaker 8>It never came. And my problem is, is this how

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02:09:06.119 --> 02:09:07.840
<v Speaker 8>Karen's labs were obtained.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, that sucked. In my opinion, she was sectioned by it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she was medically sent to the hospital due to

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<v Speaker 3>a risk of her for herself and others. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a determination made by the hospital to collect labs for

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<v Speaker 3>a talks for a talk screen, right, but that was

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02:09:31.560 --> 02:09:36.560
<v Speaker 3>never requested by the police. So libs, let's write emotion,

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02:09:37.039 --> 02:09:40.199
<v Speaker 3>let's do some shit, because I think that we have

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<v Speaker 3>an argument that not only was this not collected by

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02:09:42.840 --> 02:09:46.560
<v Speaker 3>mass Day police in a normal OUI charge, how in

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<v Speaker 3>the Christ are you saying that her medical her compromise

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<v Speaker 3>medical condition on the morning of January twenty ninth, twenty

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02:09:56.760 --> 02:09:58.880
<v Speaker 3>twenty two, is used against her.

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like this hip of violations there.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that, I know that, I know I know

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<v Speaker 3>that David Yannetti, I know that Alan Jackson have looked

2283
02:10:05.840 --> 02:10:08.000
<v Speaker 3>through all of this. But let me see the records,

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02:10:08.199 --> 02:10:11.079
<v Speaker 3>because if I can see what the doctors, what the

2285
02:10:11.199 --> 02:10:16.439
<v Speaker 3>nurses road, there may be something there well.

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<v Speaker 2>If anybody can be of help with that, like if

2287
02:10:19.159 --> 02:10:21.680
<v Speaker 2>if you haven't heard from Yanettie, then maybe Sean and

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<v Speaker 2>and Peter could I'm not I'm not trying to be funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being serious. If if they can help out to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe get something for you to look at, maybe that

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02:10:30.239 --> 02:10:31.159
<v Speaker 2>would help. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just the guy in Naples.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Gulf. Uh, this one is for you right here, Sean.

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02:10:41.119 --> 02:10:42.880
<v Speaker 1>What's the Mophi merch coming out?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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02:10:44.319 --> 02:10:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Trying to get back into the back into the grind here.

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02:10:47.720 --> 02:10:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know someone, uh, someone did reach out to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Lochran, Yes, she did, Mary, and we're gonna work

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<v Speaker 1>on something that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm down for a MOFO shirt up down for a

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02:11:00.239 --> 02:11:02.079
<v Speaker 2>bumper sticker. Just want to get that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I gotta tell you, I think uh, Olivia Nile

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02:11:05.960 --> 02:11:08.840
<v Speaker 1>for this shirt or maybe it's the other shirt. It's

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02:11:08.920 --> 02:11:13.399
<v Speaker 1>either Olivia or other. He will not be named. Partner

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02:11:13.479 --> 02:11:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that I have with Olivia. That's a whole of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we have we have the it's called in

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<v Speaker 1>my little phone the OG dream Team. He Olivia and

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<v Speaker 1>a name to be kept very very confidential.

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<v Speaker 2>None of us here.

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<v Speaker 8>Talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have a lot of you have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sources there, Young lady.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not cleared up to that level to know.

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<v Speaker 2>But Sean, since since you're what's the name of the uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the the David David Letterman show band leader, it's Paul something.

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02:11:51.159 --> 02:11:51.760
<v Speaker 2>What's his name?

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02:11:51.880 --> 02:11:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he looks like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't have that. I come on, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>growing my hair on the side. God. But but Paul Shaffer,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Shaffer, Paul Shaffer. That's right, okay, because Midnight Moon

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<v Speaker 2>wants to know, since you're the Paul Shaeffer of the

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02:12:09.920 --> 02:12:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Karen Reid, the Free Karen Reid Band, can he play trombone?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you be willing to have brass?

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02:12:14.359 --> 02:12:17.399
<v Speaker 1>I would listen. I'll tell you a quick story, real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a rock and roll band in high

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02:12:19.159 --> 02:12:21.680
<v Speaker 1>school and I said to my guys, we need a

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02:12:21.800 --> 02:12:26.800
<v Speaker 1>brass section. And they said, fuck you. I'm sorry, Shan,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you doing?

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02:12:28.520 --> 02:12:32.319
<v Speaker 2>And this show family show?

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02:12:32.640 --> 02:12:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to I wanted to go with Tower of

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02:12:36.319 --> 02:12:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Power songs back then, and the band said no. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, yes, Midnight Moon, trombones, trumpets, the whole nine yards.

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<v Speaker 2>At dude, look at Chicago, anybody go back to look

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02:12:48.600 --> 02:12:52.880
<v Speaker 2>at that nineteen seventy video on YouTube from Tanglewood. I

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02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:56.720
<v Speaker 2>think it was called It's an Incredible Live Chicago and

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02:12:56.800 --> 02:13:02.279
<v Speaker 2>their brass are just ridiculous. Man, I'm talking about coming down. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, it's all right. I'll take the head man.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Reality Check. I appreciate you down beautiful,

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02:13:13.479 --> 02:13:18.119
<v Speaker 2>same same thing here, Thank you, Richie defence guy. Richie,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, are you for the the the the fiber

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02:13:21.520 --> 02:13:24.279
<v Speaker 2>boards as opposed the synthetic fiber as opposed to wood

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02:13:24.399 --> 02:13:26.680
<v Speaker 2>because the wood rots, So just if you would let

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<v Speaker 2>us know about that, Thank you very much, Richie.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh, excuse me interrupt this.

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02:13:31.600 --> 02:13:35.319
<v Speaker 9>Richie defence guy is a very very active participant in

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02:13:35.439 --> 02:13:36.760
<v Speaker 9>this Karen Reid movement.

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<v Speaker 7>Very active.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you, Thank you, Richie.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you that's Richie. I know, yes, Richie

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02:13:45.560 --> 02:13:46.199
<v Speaker 1>is a good guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Richie. And that's a legitimate question about the fence,

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02:13:50.960 --> 02:13:55.039
<v Speaker 2>by the way, like a Jimmy Fallon style music jam.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, all right. Last one, last one from M. Gaglio.

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<v Speaker 10>M J.

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<v Speaker 2>Galli. Sorry, I don't have any glasses on, Sean J.

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02:14:07.319 --> 02:14:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't have me glasses on without the glass.

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<v Speaker 1>Gaglio?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that pretty good? Though Kim and I did a

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02:14:15.159 --> 02:14:19.119
<v Speaker 2>little bit of Irish for you, right, okay, all right,

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02:14:19.720 --> 02:14:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the winner of tonight's coolest Massachusetts accent? Would you like

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02:14:24.079 --> 02:14:25.760
<v Speaker 2>to vote on that? Or do you guys want me

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<v Speaker 2>to just pick Masa? Do you want to make a vote.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna I'm gonna vote for nurse on this one.

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02:14:31.720 --> 02:14:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna vote for DJ.

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02:14:33.119 --> 02:14:38.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna miss who had the coolest Massachusetts accent tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely Nurse Kim, Am I the only one vote for Sean.

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02:14:46.359 --> 02:14:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to. I want to I want to recap.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are the hanging chads? All right? So once again,

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<v Speaker 2>uh the return winner of coolest Massachusetts accent. I'm calling

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<v Speaker 2>all beings Nurse cam but Day to give the wait

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, Here we go, there we go. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Nurse Kim, thank you, home girl. We appreciate you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to wait a minute. There we go. I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to stop it. I want to thank everybody

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us. I want to thank everybody in the chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Julie and we got a couple of I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how many message comments we had here, I mean we

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<v Speaker 2>had was it almost twelve hundred comments?

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<v Speaker 1>There?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And twenty five hundred people watching. Thank you so much,

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02:15:36.520 --> 02:15:38.439
<v Speaker 2>mas of Media. It was an honor to meet you

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02:15:38.920 --> 02:15:41.359
<v Speaker 2>and have you join and I can't wait to speak

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02:15:41.399 --> 02:15:45.479
<v Speaker 2>with you again one on one. Also Nurse Kim as well.

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02:15:46.279 --> 02:15:48.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get you because we talked about doing

2385
02:15:48.319 --> 02:15:49.800
<v Speaker 2>a one on one with you and let you just

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02:15:49.840 --> 02:15:52.399
<v Speaker 2>go hog wild up and just take over to joint.

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Shorty. Thank you for all you're doing. I know

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02:15:56.439 --> 02:16:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Maso was inspired sitting next to you, and I'm inspire

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02:16:00.279 --> 02:16:02.439
<v Speaker 2>as well. And I'm buying one of you bumper stickers

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02:16:03.039 --> 02:16:04.479
<v Speaker 2>all right as a mine.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, thank you so much. Mitch Shorty.

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02:16:07.079 --> 02:16:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Though you are, you are a voice that we all

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02:16:12.039 --> 02:16:17.439
<v Speaker 3>appreciate so much, your memory, your activism, and you will

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02:16:17.560 --> 02:16:21.920
<v Speaker 3>love for Karen, for her family, for also for Officer

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02:16:22.000 --> 02:16:25.800
<v Speaker 3>John O'Keeffe and the community is so commendable.

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<v Speaker 8>And we just love your face.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you, We.

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<v Speaker 2>Love you, John O'Keeffe. We haven't forgotten you, bro man.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get there, so don't you worry. Don't you worry, brother,

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02:16:37.120 --> 02:16:41.239
<v Speaker 2>we haven't forgot you. Peter Murphy, thank you, brother. I

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02:16:41.319 --> 02:16:41.920
<v Speaker 2>appreciate you.

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02:16:42.479 --> 02:16:44.799
<v Speaker 7>Glad to be here and it was a great roundtable.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you bro Man, Nurse Kim, thank you, homegirl,

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02:16:50.920 --> 02:16:51.239
<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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02:16:54.799 --> 02:16:55.280
<v Speaker 8>So low.

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02:16:55.879 --> 02:16:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Where the hell is a microphone? But now, thank you

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02:16:59.520 --> 02:17:05.879
<v Speaker 2>for coming on, and I appreciate it. It's okay, okay,

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02:17:06.120 --> 02:17:09.559
<v Speaker 2>all right and well, and we'll get Dave calling in

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02:17:09.719 --> 02:17:12.200
<v Speaker 2>on as well. Man, we'll get him on that round

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02:17:12.280 --> 02:17:16.799
<v Speaker 2>table for Sandra birchmore King Mofo.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, DJ you, thank you to the panel. It

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02:17:22.000 --> 02:17:26.200
<v Speaker 1>was great meeting Miss Shoty. Miss Shoty met Dave, Masa,

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02:17:26.879 --> 02:17:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Nurse Kim, Kimmy Peter, and listen to the chat. I

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<v Speaker 1>see what you're saying out there. There will be a

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02:17:35.159 --> 02:17:38.159
<v Speaker 1>show coming up for everyone, not just the very elite,

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02:17:38.200 --> 02:17:40.799
<v Speaker 1>but for everyone, and we're going to get that party running.

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<v Speaker 1>So hang in there. It's been a long day, long

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02:17:45.760 --> 02:17:48.639
<v Speaker 1>of you tell a lot of intel. You know those days, DJ,

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02:17:49.360 --> 02:17:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you know when they're coming over the the Cosmic Frontier,

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02:17:54.719 --> 02:17:55.879
<v Speaker 1>you know those days are.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I'm glad. I'm glad you guys are getting it. Man,

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02:17:59.639 --> 02:18:03.040
<v Speaker 2>come on, gonna keep keep putting pressure on the Dodgeball

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02:18:03.120 --> 02:18:06.040
<v Speaker 2>team led by Psycho Brian Albert. So check your uh

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02:18:07.159 --> 02:18:09.520
<v Speaker 2>check your email. One of the folks from the last

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02:18:09.559 --> 02:18:11.639
<v Speaker 2>show reached out to me and she has a She

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02:18:11.799 --> 02:18:14.280
<v Speaker 2>sent a really good photo to me and you on

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02:18:14.440 --> 02:18:17.600
<v Speaker 2>email of Brian and I think it's middy craft, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna check that out.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, your phone home, Bye guys, All.

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<v Speaker 2>Right bye everybody. I'll be half of Shorty. Peace out,

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<v Speaker 2>Uncle Mo
