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<v Speaker 1>What if the answers you're searching for are already within you,

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<v Speaker 1>here at richer within. We believe they are, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>here to help you discover them. I'm Catherine, joined by

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<v Speaker 1>Dynamo Doctor Pat. Together we blend science and spirituality to

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<v Speaker 1>guide you in reconnecting with your inner wisdom and unique magnificence.

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<v Speaker 1>Tune in for inspiring stories and practical strategies to boost clarity,

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<v Speaker 1>embrace your worth, and spark meaningful change. Ready to unlock

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<v Speaker 1>your inner wealth, start your transformation?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Hey, everybody, welcome. This is a very very special episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It is an anniversary episode, it's a birthday episode. The

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<v Speaker 2>courage to be on script live, unscripted. It's such a

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<v Speaker 2>powerful topic. We're going to explore a number of things,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to do it through the lens of

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine's experiences, her day to day's spiritual practice. Is what

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<v Speaker 2>life hands you today? You're going to hear in this

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary show and birthday show, Happy Birthday. What is this about?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the deepest lessons and what is it we

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<v Speaker 2>all can cultivate in our lives. What a great episode, Catherine,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for picking this. Thank you doctor Pat.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you all of our stellar listeners who are

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<v Speaker 2>with us now and in the future. This is really

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<v Speaker 2>about the journey that I experienced in doing this live show,

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<v Speaker 2>which then becomes podcasts for the first time of my

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<v Speaker 2>entire life. And the greatest learning for me over this year,

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<v Speaker 2>which applies both personally and professionally because they're the same, right,

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<v Speaker 2>is how to trust myself, to live and to speak

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<v Speaker 2>from my heart. So I'll tell you what happened in

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<v Speaker 2>the course of this show. I found myself spending twenty

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<v Speaker 2>to forty hours putting together each monthly show. I found

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<v Speaker 2>myself caught in writing a script, like a full script.

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<v Speaker 2>Dr pat Knows's pages and pages, because it's what I

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<v Speaker 2>knew how to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sorry for any of it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think We've had some fabulous, fantastic shows and I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for all of them. And what started off as

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<v Speaker 1>joy and enthusiasm started to feel like work. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was reflecting on this, Doctor Pat about how much my

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<v Speaker 1>public life had been shaped by scripts. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>trained in classical piano performance and my dad was my

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<v Speaker 1>first primary teacher. I'll just say, you did not really

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<v Speaker 1>want to make mistakes with my dad. So I began

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<v Speaker 1>to fear making mistakes. And when I think about music,

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<v Speaker 1>we think about musical scores. Note to note to note right,

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<v Speaker 1>follow the notes. And also I played in lots of bands.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a renaissance band for twenty years with

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen other people. Note to note to note to note,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to follow the notes. And then in my

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<v Speaker 1>professional management career, I went into every meeting with an

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<v Speaker 1>agenda formal meetings, agenda with desired outcomes and timeframes. I

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<v Speaker 1>did presentations that were prepared power points over powerpoints to people,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, and it was all very successful. However, when

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<v Speaker 1>I felt it start to bleed into this richer within show,

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<v Speaker 1>I started to feel a pull towards spontaneity over over preparation.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to find the middle ground between being super

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<v Speaker 1>prepared and scripted and being spontaneous. And so there's a

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<v Speaker 1>really beautiful I'm discovering vulnerability and that spontaneity that opens

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<v Speaker 1>up more authenticity. And so that is both for my

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<v Speaker 1>life here with the show and my personal life, to

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<v Speaker 1>find more of that balance between the two and to

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<v Speaker 1>really just trust myself to live and speak from my heart,

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<v Speaker 1>from my wisdom from my knowing what I know and

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<v Speaker 1>just trust it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I love the way you gave the

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<v Speaker 2>outline because there are some things in life, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>structure music, I played the viola and super structure because hello,

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing all the in between notes. You cannot mess

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<v Speaker 2>that up because you like, if you're at a whack

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<v Speaker 2>with just an note, everybody knows it. But that structure.

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<v Speaker 2>I play a sport, you speak, you sing, you do

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<v Speaker 2>all these things, they require structure. But sometimes we can

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<v Speaker 2>use structure with lack of creativity, and that doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be so.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, absolutely, I mean structure. Structure is not a

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<v Speaker 1>problem like you say it can be. It's really helpful

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<v Speaker 1>to have a music script, to have an agenda, to

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<v Speaker 1>have an outline for a presentation. And when it when

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<v Speaker 1>we look at is this keeping me from being authentic?

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we're trying to figure out if it's if

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<v Speaker 1>it's holding us back, if it's holding me from being graceful,

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<v Speaker 1>from experiencing joy, from feeling really connected within myself, then

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<v Speaker 1>that's really when the structure starts to get in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of that authenticity. And you know, I started looking

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<v Speaker 1>at how much my life was scripted. How much our

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<v Speaker 1>lives can be scripted because we have societal expectations placed

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<v Speaker 1>on us. We have family all you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>they're well intentioned in thinking what we should be doing

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<v Speaker 1>or how we should be. We have friends well intentioned

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes as well, thinking what we should be doing and

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<v Speaker 1>what we should you know, and we shouldn't be shitting

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<v Speaker 1>on ourselves. It's not about that, It's about determining. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I playing from an old tape, an old record and

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<v Speaker 1>old programming? There's also two things I want to highlight

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<v Speaker 1>I pay a lot of attention to for myself. One

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<v Speaker 1>is people pleasing and another is perfectionism. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that both of those are really masks for seeking external approval.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason they call them approval ratings, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>some people's cars are really depend on those. Oh do

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<v Speaker 1>we want to live our lives that way?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So that is where we can look at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>am I managing my image by the structure? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of what I'm doing? And what can I do

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<v Speaker 1>to strengthen my own inner confidence? And I also my

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerability to be willing to make a mistake. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>allow people to make mistakes a whole lot these days,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're quite natural. Right. So I remember when we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about structure and scripts. I had a really fun friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name was pat She's very, very spontaneous and just

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<v Speaker 1>super fun. And we were at the lake Flathead Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up there in the summers and I had

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<v Speaker 1>a big crush on this guy named Paul. And one

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<v Speaker 1>day we were at his family caw just having a

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<v Speaker 1>good time in the afternoon, and we had forgotten our

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<v Speaker 1>swimming suits. She jumped in the lake. Anyway, she jumped

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<v Speaker 1>in the lake and did whatever. And I'm on the shore, going, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't bring a change of clothes. I didn't bring

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<v Speaker 1>my makeup, I didn't bring a blow dryer, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And Paul was really attracted to her, and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the deal. Well, you know, there's something really compelling

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<v Speaker 1>about that type of spontaneity that's just like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do this. I'm not prepared for this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to do it anyway, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make sure it's just gonna be fine. Whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was more in my image management script that I

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<v Speaker 1>had not unlearned. And so, you know, some years later,

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<v Speaker 1>I was reflecting on how many moments like that I

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<v Speaker 1>missed out on in my life, how many lakes I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't jump into, how many rivers I didn't jump into,

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<v Speaker 1>how many jacuzzis or saunas or whatever I didn't jump

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<v Speaker 1>into because I was wanting to still look composed, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know how I wanted to present myself and not

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<v Speaker 1>mess that up. Yeah, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And what about other people's fears about what you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>and the overspill from that? You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh my gosh, she just told me she

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<v Speaker 2>jumped into the lake. Now you're coming home and they're,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe your parents looking at you, maybe your cousins,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and they're saying, she has lost it. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm afraid if she jumps into a lake, is she

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<v Speaker 2>going to jump off a cliff? Is she going to

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<v Speaker 2>jump off a car? Is she going to jump off

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<v Speaker 2>the empire state? But you understand, and that's an energy

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<v Speaker 2>to doesn't that hate help shape whether or not somebody

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<v Speaker 2>is willing to move slightly off script to try.

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<v Speaker 1>Something new, absolutely because they are wanting us to conform

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<v Speaker 1>to their fears about us and what we're doing. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not saying that this is easy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not easy. I didn't say that it's not easy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not easy. It's not easy for me. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you why. Sometimes you feel responsible to other people, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But the reality is, what does it take for us

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<v Speaker 2>to be responsible to oneself? To learn, you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be good for you? Do you understand

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. If we got to race all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>may I call it conditioning, yes, and trust the spiritual

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<v Speaker 2>concept and intuition of the moment. What would that look like?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how did you feel afterwards? You didn't say

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<v Speaker 2>how you felt after you jumped to the lake? What

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<v Speaker 2>was that feeling?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't jump into that lake, However, when I realized

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<v Speaker 1>how many I missed on, I was scheduled to go

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<v Speaker 1>on a backpacking trip in the Allawa Mountains, and before

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<v Speaker 1>we left, I made a commitment to myself, a devotion

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, that I was going to jump into every

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<v Speaker 1>single lake we came across. Wow, And I did no kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, And they were glacial lakes, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was so liberating and that became a

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<v Speaker 1>practice of freedom. And I still practice that. I just

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<v Speaker 1>jumped into a lake yesterday afternoon, and it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>practicing right. And the more we practice, and the more

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<v Speaker 1>people around us get used to we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything crazy because it's not about being irresponsible and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about being inconsiderate. It's really becoming conscious. What

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about is becoming conscious of what truly serves

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<v Speaker 1>me and when I'm following a script right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's a constant kind of playing around between the two

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<v Speaker 1>and living from that place of authenticity with conscious awareness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally love this topic because you know, there are

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<v Speaker 2>things you and I do that have to be scripted

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<v Speaker 2>or structured. Let's call it structured. You know, I play

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<v Speaker 2>a sport and if I if my forehand is off

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<v Speaker 2>by one sixteenth or one hundred percent. Yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 2>takes practice. So let me ask you about the practice

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<v Speaker 2>of practicing structure and the practicing of unstructured scripted versus unscripted,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you've never done it before, you do have

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<v Speaker 2>to get your feet wet and look at you now,

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<v Speaker 2>your feet's wet now you jumping into lakes, right, m

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<v Speaker 2>hm hm. But that feeling you have to feel some

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<v Speaker 2>level of freedom, perhaps that you have not felt before.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just guessing, though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is a visceral experience for me. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>embodying it, right when you can talk about it all

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<v Speaker 1>day long and until we jump into that dance, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we didn't wear our favorite cowboy boots, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know you once we're willing to say yes to something

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<v Speaker 1>that we'd been a little bit shy about once we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be It'd be little things. It doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>something big and grand. And the more we practice it

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<v Speaker 1>and feel that and feel that liberation, feel that joy,

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<v Speaker 1>feel the rewards of that spontaneity, it's really being intimate

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<v Speaker 1>with life. Life is constantly inviting us, Hey, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this beautiful sunset. Rather than you know, staying

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<v Speaker 1>around with everybody who's on their cell phones. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>step outside and look at the sunset and maybe invite

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's birthday. It's important to me because I know that

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps three questions, and one of them is is to

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, we're talking about something really important. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>we get to ask ourselves a question. Do I feel

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<v Speaker 2>But for those of you out there you want to

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<v Speaker 2>work with Catherine, please go to our website Katherine Richer

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. At the end the last couple of minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine sits as she becomes transparently authentic. But talk about

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<v Speaker 1>It's really not about rejecting preparation. It's being in touch

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<v Speaker 1>How do I express myself in this? Am I keeping

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh my god. So let's talk about some of

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<v Speaker 2>the three questions that we can reflect on, because look,

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<v Speaker 2>But yet we don't translate that to our everyday life.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are the three questions I got to be

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<v Speaker 1>longer fits me? Right? Am I in a relationship that

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<v Speaker 1>that restricts me from expressing who I am? And small

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<v Speaker 1>practices how we can practice being authentic in these ways.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be a very very simple thing, and the

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty is doctor Patt and everyone. When we are

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<v Speaker 1>living that way, we give others permission to also live authentically.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people just I sometimes I need a little nudge

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<v Speaker 1>of somebody doing something like, Wow, you know I can

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<v Speaker 1>do that. That is brilliant. I'm going to start practicing

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<v Speaker 2>are a celebration per some, but they are definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>to celebrate it. Now, I tend to celebrate my sobriety

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<v Speaker 2>actual what do they call that chronological thing? So that's

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<v Speaker 2>my big birthday. And it's not that I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>December as my birth birthday, but how do I know

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<v Speaker 2>the birthday in July is kind of cool. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>today you're helping us understand what it is we can

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<v Speaker 2>to close the show with something special. Tell us about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Birthdays, Earth birthday, sobriety days, every day is a

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<v Speaker 1>the end, I like to call them a spiritual mind

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<v Speaker 1>are five steps to it. Everything else is spontaneous. It

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<v Speaker 1>as a beautiful little closing affirmation. So thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>of this to yourself. And I invite you to now

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<v Speaker 1>simply relax if you're in a place to that feels safe.

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<v Speaker 1>To let your eyes close and just drop everything, the pencil,

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, the whatever, just to be fully fully present,

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<v Speaker 1>like water off a ducts back, and to simply breathe

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<v Speaker 1>into this gift of now, this gift of now where

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<v Speaker 1>we are present to that which is all that there is,

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<v Speaker 1>to that very power that moves the planets around in

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<v Speaker 1>perfect order, that intelligence and wisdom, that beautiful presence, that

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<v Speaker 1>is energy, it's the life force. It's indestructible, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is everything that there is. And we see this expressed

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<v Speaker 1>in everything, everywhere, all the time, All that we can

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<v Speaker 1>it is all from the same source and all expressions

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<v Speaker 1>with every fiber of my being, everyone is a beautiful, unique,

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<v Speaker 1>that willingness to be unscripted in a way that liberates them,

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that they experience the freedom that is

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<v Speaker 1>their birthright, the joy that it is at their fingertips

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<v Speaker 1>every time they say yes to a heart's desire every

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<v Speaker 1>guidance and inner pulling towards a direction, towards an action,

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<v Speaker 1>towards a word, a relationship, a new something. Every day

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<v Speaker 1>being birthed anew in this way, celebrating life and accepting

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<v Speaker 1>these gifts, to this freedom, and to live authentically and

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<v Speaker 1>joyfully with every breath they take in this gift we

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<v Speaker 1>true for all of us, And in that gratitude, I

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<v Speaker 1>released this word into that cosmic womb of infinite potential,

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<v Speaker 1>that place an absolute, unconditional love that always says, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>my beloved, and you are my beloved. It is my

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<v Speaker 1>love to give unto you that which is your desire,

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<v Speaker 1>for yours and mine are the same. I let this be,

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<v Speaker 1>and we allow it to be by saying yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And so it is. Happy birthday and happy anniversary. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the best way for people to find out

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<v Speaker 2>more about richer within? To take a look at what

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing, to work with you, to hire you all

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<v Speaker 2>of the above, How do they go about that full expression.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the above is a very full expression on

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<v Speaker 1>my website Katherine Richer dot com and also on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I also have a YouTube channel, richer Within, and would love, love,

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<v Speaker 1>love the opportunity to work with everybody, and so grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for your presence here and for being lights in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it and I will never look out a

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<v Speaker 2>lake in the same way us. Thank you, Kat, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for everything. Thank you all for tuning

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<v Speaker 2>us in and turning us on. Remember this show will

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<v Speaker 2>be replayed again later on. And of course if you

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<v Speaker 2>go to Katherine Richard dot com, what you'll find are

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<v Speaker 2>richer within dot com. Either way, you'll see this showing

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<v Speaker 2>up in Catherine's player on our podcast page. All of

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<v Speaker 2>the above is for all of you, fully expressed. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Starr. Thank you for investing in yourself by listening

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<v Speaker 1>to richer Within with me. Catherine and doctor Pat continue

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<v Speaker 1>this journey with us every third Monday at eleven am

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific on Transformation Talk Radio. Feeling inspired, visit richerwithin dot

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<v Speaker 1>com to explore one on one sessions, speaking engagements and

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<v Speaker 1>support of services with me. Together, Let's co create a

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<v Speaker 1>world that uplifts everyone through deeper living and conscious presence

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<v Speaker 1>until next time, and always align with your inner wealth

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<v Speaker 1>of wisdom. Wow.
