Speaker 1: What if the answers you're searching for are already within you,
Speaker 1: here at richer within. We believe they are, and we're
Speaker 1: here to help you discover them. I'm Catherine, joined by
Speaker 1: Dynamo Doctor Pat. Together we blend science and spirituality to
Speaker 1: guide you in reconnecting with your inner wisdom and unique magnificence.
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Speaker 2: Now, Hey, everybody, welcome. This is a very very special episode.
Speaker 2: It is an anniversary episode, it's a birthday episode. The
Speaker 2: courage to be on script live, unscripted. It's such a
Speaker 2: powerful topic. We're going to explore a number of things,
Speaker 2: but we're going to do it through the lens of
Speaker 2: Catherine's experiences, her day to day's spiritual practice. Is what
Speaker 2: life hands you today? You're going to hear in this
Speaker 2: anniversary show and birthday show, Happy Birthday. What is this about?
Speaker 2: What are the deepest lessons and what is it we
Speaker 2: all can cultivate in our lives. What a great episode, Catherine,
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for picking this. Thank you doctor Pat.
Speaker 2: And thank you all of our stellar listeners who are
Speaker 2: with us now and in the future. This is really
Speaker 2: about the journey that I experienced in doing this live show,
Speaker 2: which then becomes podcasts for the first time of my
Speaker 2: entire life. And the greatest learning for me over this year,
Speaker 2: which applies both personally and professionally because they're the same, right,
Speaker 2: is how to trust myself, to live and to speak
Speaker 2: from my heart. So I'll tell you what happened in
Speaker 2: the course of this show. I found myself spending twenty
Speaker 2: to forty hours putting together each monthly show. I found
Speaker 2: myself caught in writing a script, like a full script.
Speaker 2: Dr pat Knows's pages and pages, because it's what I
Speaker 2: knew how to do.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sorry for any of it. And I
Speaker 1: think We've had some fabulous, fantastic shows and I'm really
Speaker 1: grateful for all of them. And what started off as
Speaker 1: joy and enthusiasm started to feel like work. And I
Speaker 1: was reflecting on this, Doctor Pat about how much my
Speaker 1: public life had been shaped by scripts. So I was
Speaker 1: trained in classical piano performance and my dad was my
Speaker 1: first primary teacher. I'll just say, you did not really
Speaker 1: want to make mistakes with my dad. So I began
Speaker 1: to fear making mistakes. And when I think about music,
Speaker 1: we think about musical scores. Note to note to note right,
Speaker 1: follow the notes. And also I played in lots of bands.
Speaker 1: I was in a renaissance band for twenty years with
Speaker 1: thirteen other people. Note to note to note to note,
Speaker 1: you have to follow the notes. And then in my
Speaker 1: professional management career, I went into every meeting with an
Speaker 1: agenda formal meetings, agenda with desired outcomes and timeframes. I
Speaker 1: did presentations that were prepared power points over powerpoints to people,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, and it was all very successful. However, when
Speaker 1: I felt it start to bleed into this richer within show,
Speaker 1: I started to feel a pull towards spontaneity over over preparation.
Speaker 1: I wanted to find the middle ground between being super
Speaker 1: prepared and scripted and being spontaneous. And so there's a
Speaker 1: really beautiful I'm discovering vulnerability and that spontaneity that opens
Speaker 1: up more authenticity. And so that is both for my
Speaker 1: life here with the show and my personal life, to
Speaker 1: find more of that balance between the two and to
Speaker 1: really just trust myself to live and speak from my heart,
Speaker 1: from my wisdom from my knowing what I know and
Speaker 1: just trust it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I love the way you gave the
Speaker 2: outline because there are some things in life, you know,
Speaker 2: structure music, I played the viola and super structure because hello,
Speaker 2: you're playing all the in between notes. You cannot mess
Speaker 2: that up because you like, if you're at a whack
Speaker 2: with just an note, everybody knows it. But that structure.
Speaker 2: I play a sport, you speak, you sing, you do
Speaker 2: all these things, they require structure. But sometimes we can
Speaker 2: use structure with lack of creativity, and that doesn't have
Speaker 2: to be so.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, absolutely, I mean structure. Structure is not a
Speaker 1: problem like you say it can be. It's really helpful
Speaker 1: to have a music script, to have an agenda, to
Speaker 1: have an outline for a presentation. And when it when
Speaker 1: we look at is this keeping me from being authentic?
Speaker 1: That's where we're trying to figure out if it's if
Speaker 1: it's holding us back, if it's holding me from being graceful,
Speaker 1: from experiencing joy, from feeling really connected within myself, then
Speaker 1: that's really when the structure starts to get in the
Speaker 1: way of that authenticity. And you know, I started looking
Speaker 1: at how much my life was scripted. How much our
Speaker 1: lives can be scripted because we have societal expectations placed
Speaker 1: on us. We have family all you know, I know
Speaker 1: they're well intentioned in thinking what we should be doing
Speaker 1: or how we should be. We have friends well intentioned
Speaker 1: sometimes as well, thinking what we should be doing and
Speaker 1: what we should you know, and we shouldn't be shitting
Speaker 1: on ourselves. It's not about that, It's about determining. Am
Speaker 1: I playing from an old tape, an old record and
Speaker 1: old programming? There's also two things I want to highlight
Speaker 1: I pay a lot of attention to for myself. One
Speaker 1: is people pleasing and another is perfectionism. And I know
Speaker 1: that both of those are really masks for seeking external approval.
Speaker 1: There's a reason they call them approval ratings, right, And
Speaker 1: some people's cars are really depend on those. Oh do
Speaker 1: we want to live our lives that way?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So that is where we can look at you know,
Speaker 1: am I managing my image by the structure? Am I
Speaker 1: afraid of what I'm doing? And what can I do
Speaker 1: to strengthen my own inner confidence? And I also my
Speaker 1: vulnerability to be willing to make a mistake. We don't
Speaker 1: allow people to make mistakes a whole lot these days,
Speaker 1: and they're quite natural. Right. So I remember when we're
Speaker 1: talking about structure and scripts. I had a really fun friend.
Speaker 1: Her name was pat She's very, very spontaneous and just
Speaker 1: super fun. And we were at the lake Flathead Lake.
Speaker 1: I grew up there in the summers and I had
Speaker 1: a big crush on this guy named Paul. And one
Speaker 1: day we were at his family caw just having a
Speaker 1: good time in the afternoon, and we had forgotten our
Speaker 1: swimming suits. She jumped in the lake. Anyway, she jumped
Speaker 1: in the lake and did whatever. And I'm on the shore, going, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't do that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I didn't bring a change of clothes. I didn't bring
Speaker 1: my makeup, I didn't bring a blow dryer, you know, right,
Speaker 1: And Paul was really attracted to her, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: what's the deal. Well, you know, there's something really compelling
Speaker 1: about that type of spontaneity that's just like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this. I'm not prepared for this,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to do it anyway, and I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna make sure it's just gonna be fine. Whatever. But
Speaker 1: I was more in my image management script that I
Speaker 1: had not unlearned. And so, you know, some years later,
Speaker 1: I was reflecting on how many moments like that I
Speaker 1: missed out on in my life, how many lakes I
Speaker 1: didn't jump into, how many rivers I didn't jump into,
Speaker 1: how many jacuzzis or saunas or whatever I didn't jump
Speaker 1: into because I was wanting to still look composed, and
Speaker 1: you know how I wanted to present myself and not
Speaker 1: mess that up. Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 2: And what about other people's fears about what you're doing
Speaker 2: and the overspill from that? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my gosh, she just told me she
Speaker 2: jumped into the lake. Now you're coming home and they're,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe your parents looking at you, maybe your cousins,
Speaker 2: I don't know, and they're saying, she has lost it. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm afraid if she jumps into a lake, is she
Speaker 2: going to jump off a cliff? Is she going to
Speaker 2: jump off a car? Is she going to jump off
Speaker 2: the empire state? But you understand, and that's an energy
Speaker 2: to doesn't that hate help shape whether or not somebody
Speaker 2: is willing to move slightly off script to try.
Speaker 1: Something new, absolutely because they are wanting us to conform
Speaker 1: to their fears about us and what we're doing. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying that this is easy.
Speaker 2: No, it's not easy. I didn't say that it's not easy.
Speaker 2: It's not easy. It's not easy for me. And I'll
Speaker 2: tell you why. Sometimes you feel responsible to other people, right,
Speaker 2: But the reality is, what does it take for us
Speaker 2: to be responsible to oneself? To learn, you know, what
Speaker 2: is going to be good for you? Do you understand
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. If we got to race all of that,
Speaker 2: may I call it conditioning, yes, and trust the spiritual
Speaker 2: concept and intuition of the moment. What would that look like?
Speaker 2: I mean, how did you feel afterwards? You didn't say
Speaker 2: how you felt after you jumped to the lake? What
Speaker 2: was that feeling?
Speaker 1: I didn't jump into that lake, However, when I realized
Speaker 1: how many I missed on, I was scheduled to go
Speaker 1: on a backpacking trip in the Allawa Mountains, and before
Speaker 1: we left, I made a commitment to myself, a devotion
Speaker 1: to myself, that I was going to jump into every
Speaker 1: single lake we came across. Wow, And I did no kidding,
Speaker 1: I think, And they were glacial lakes, and you know
Speaker 1: it was it was so liberating and that became a
Speaker 1: practice of freedom. And I still practice that. I just
Speaker 1: jumped into a lake yesterday afternoon, and it's like it's
Speaker 1: practicing right. And the more we practice, and the more
Speaker 1: people around us get used to we're not going to
Speaker 1: do anything crazy because it's not about being irresponsible and
Speaker 1: it's not about being inconsiderate. It's really becoming conscious. What
Speaker 1: you're talking about is becoming conscious of what truly serves
Speaker 1: me and when I'm following a script right, And so
Speaker 1: it's a constant kind of playing around between the two
Speaker 1: and living from that place of authenticity with conscious awareness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I totally love this topic because you know, there are
Speaker 2: things you and I do that have to be scripted
Speaker 2: or structured. Let's call it structured. You know, I play
Speaker 2: a sport and if I if my forehand is off
Speaker 2: by one sixteenth or one hundred percent. Yeah, so that
Speaker 2: takes practice. So let me ask you about the practice
Speaker 2: of practicing structure and the practicing of unstructured scripted versus unscripted,
Speaker 2: because if you've never done it before, you do have
Speaker 2: to get your feet wet and look at you now,
Speaker 2: your feet's wet now you jumping into lakes, right, m
Speaker 2: hm hm. But that feeling you have to feel some
Speaker 2: level of freedom, perhaps that you have not felt before.
Speaker 2: I'm just guessing, though.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is a visceral experience for me. That's that's
Speaker 1: embodying it, right when you can talk about it all
Speaker 1: day long and until we jump into that dance, even
Speaker 1: though we didn't wear our favorite cowboy boots, which I
Speaker 1: know you once we're willing to say yes to something
Speaker 1: that we'd been a little bit shy about once we'd
Speaker 1: be It'd be little things. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: something big and grand. And the more we practice it
Speaker 1: and feel that and feel that liberation, feel that joy,
Speaker 1: feel the rewards of that spontaneity, it's really being intimate
Speaker 1: with life. Life is constantly inviting us, Hey, come on,
Speaker 1: look at this beautiful sunset. Rather than you know, staying
Speaker 1: around with everybody who's on their cell phones. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: step outside and look at the sunset and maybe invite
Speaker 1: someone to come with me, right'. It's this. It really
Speaker 1: engenders a much deeper trust in my own spiritual sense
Speaker 1: because it doesn't lead me astray ever.
Speaker 2: And I want to say something though for those people listening,
Speaker 2: this is an act of courage to take this yes,
Speaker 2: what you know where Catherine is talking about is a yes,
Speaker 2: and it's a yes to her life.
Speaker 1: It is very courageous. And authenticity is not about self indulgence.
Speaker 1: It's really about aligning with that life that we are
Speaker 1: uniquely here to express. And this is the whole thing
Speaker 1: about the birthday, Right is my birthday. I celebrated the
Speaker 1: birthday as well as the one your anniversary on this show,
Speaker 1: and I know that for me, I celebrate my birthday.
Speaker 1: Everybody's birthday. It's important to me because I know that
Speaker 1: thirteen point nine billion years of evolution into me, into
Speaker 1: everyone and our thing here. One thing is to express ourselves,
Speaker 1: express our unique in a way that no one else
Speaker 1: can because there's only one of us. So the whole
Speaker 1: thing is not that it's a it's a flawless performance.
Speaker 1: It's to become available to the truth of who we
Speaker 1: really really are. What a delight to do is offer
Speaker 1: people some questions that that they can carry into the week,
Speaker 1: perhaps three questions, and one of them is is to
Speaker 1: look at where am I? Where am I over rehearsing
Speaker 1: in my life? Maybe another way to put that is
Speaker 1: is what script am I am? I following that no
Speaker 1: longer fits? And then what is one small way that
Speaker 1: I can practice being more authentically myself? Again, you don't
Speaker 1: have to jump into a way. It can be very small,
Speaker 1: very well, there's nothing small in the universe. Everything, everything matters.
Speaker 1: So let's do take a quick break so we'll be
Speaker 1: right back in just a moment.
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, we're talking about something really important. It's really
Speaker 2: really important, and you know, this is a show where
Speaker 2: we get to ask ourselves a question. Do I feel
Speaker 2: self indulgent when I'm authentic, when I'm in alignment with
Speaker 2: my self expression? Can I do it without worrying? With
Speaker 2: Mary Tom Dick and harrything. I don't know why we
Speaker 2: did the Tom Dick and harrything grow or not. But
Speaker 2: also now we're going to talk about the idea of
Speaker 2: rejecting preparation, because that is not what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: But for those of you out there you want to
Speaker 2: work with Catherine, please go to our website Katherine Richer
Speaker 2: dot com. At the end the last couple of minutes,
Speaker 2: you are going to experience what this means from where
Speaker 2: Catherine sits as she becomes transparently authentic. But talk about
Speaker 2: this idea where people are like, well, what does that
Speaker 2: mean rejecting preparation? I don't prepare? What's that about.
Speaker 1: It's really not about rejecting preparation. It's being in touch
Speaker 1: with ourselves enough to since when we're over preparing, right,
Speaker 1: even when it's necessary to prepare, or can I go
Speaker 1: in with three questions and trust myself? So it's really
Speaker 1: navigating the balance between the two. It's not a rejection.
Speaker 1: Believe me. I have spent many, many hours preparing for
Speaker 1: meetings and concerts and they've gone very, very well. And
Speaker 1: there is a place where we can live unscripted, where
Speaker 1: we can say, Wow, I forgot my swimsuit, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to jump in the lake with my clothes on.
Speaker 1: I don't care because this is just too good to
Speaker 1: pass up. Right, And notice when I'm shrinking And that's
Speaker 1: when I noticed if my physical body is shrinking from something,
Speaker 1: And oh, how do I stand into this in my truth?
Speaker 1: How do I express myself in this? Am I keeping
Speaker 1: myself from something? And you know, we get to do
Speaker 1: this with a lot of compassion, because it takes a
Speaker 1: lot of practice to do this. It's probably one of
Speaker 1: the hardest things that we're born to do here, which
Speaker 1: is to live ourselves, live our own lives. Yeah, while
Speaker 1: embracing everyone and not disregarding them.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh my god. So let's talk about some of
Speaker 2: the three questions that we can reflect on, because look,
Speaker 2: you know, I just went back to the gym and
Speaker 2: we get an orientation to So I talked to the
Speaker 2: orientation person the other day because although I may know
Speaker 2: how to do something, I may not be doing it right.
Speaker 2: And when you're doing something physical, it is so important
Speaker 2: to do it right, just like music, just like anything else.
Speaker 2: But yet we don't translate that to our everyday life.
Speaker 2: So what are the three questions I got to be
Speaker 2: thinking about right now?
Speaker 1: Well, really simply where am I over preparing? Where am
Speaker 1: I putting more energy into something that's simply not necessary?
Speaker 1: Because I really know what I'm doing. I know what
Speaker 1: I know, I know what to say, and I know
Speaker 1: how to say it, when to say it. I know
Speaker 1: what to do when I need to do it, and
Speaker 1: how to do it. So when am I over preparing?
Speaker 1: And then where am I following a script that no
Speaker 1: longer fits me? Right? Am I in a relationship that
Speaker 1: keeps me down? Am I in a people pleasing mode
Speaker 1: that restricts me from expressing who I am? And small
Speaker 1: practices how we can practice being authentic in these ways.
Speaker 1: Somebody starts to order something for me at lunch, I'm like,
Speaker 1: actually always looking breadth the grilled cheese sandwich, but thank you.
Speaker 1: It can be a very very simple thing, and the
Speaker 1: more we practice it, the more we build, like building
Speaker 1: the muscle, then it becomes more and more natural to
Speaker 1: us to do while we're also aware of our surroundings.
Speaker 1: We're not hurting people, we're not running over people, and
Speaker 1: the beauty is doctor Patt and everyone. When we are
Speaker 1: living that way, we give others permission to also live authentically.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people just I sometimes I need a little nudge
Speaker 1: of somebody doing something like, Wow, you know I can
Speaker 1: do that. That is brilliant. I'm going to start practicing
Speaker 1: now too. It's encouraging, it's inviting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, baby steps, baby steps. You know. I
Speaker 2: started out by talking about anniversary and a birthday, and
Speaker 2: I want to just get back to that because birthdays
Speaker 2: are a celebration per some, but they are definitely a
Speaker 2: unique expression expression of who we are. However you want
Speaker 2: to celebrate it. Now, I tend to celebrate my sobriety
Speaker 2: you know, my clean and sober birthday more than my
Speaker 2: actual what do they call that chronological thing? So that's
Speaker 2: my big birthday. And it's not that I don't like
Speaker 2: December as my birth birthday, but how do I know
Speaker 2: the birthday in July is kind of cool. So you know,
Speaker 2: today you're helping us understand what it is we can
Speaker 2: do to be fully expressed. Now I know you're going
Speaker 2: to close the show with something special. Tell us about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, Birthdays, Earth birthday, sobriety days, every day is a
Speaker 1: day to celebrate being alive. And what I offer at
Speaker 1: the end, I like to call them a spiritual mind
Speaker 1: spot treatment. And the funny thing about this is there
Speaker 1: are five steps to it. Everything else is spontaneous. It
Speaker 1: definitely comes from the heart. It comes from that inner wisdom,
Speaker 1: the richer within. And I offer it to everyone now
Speaker 1: as a beautiful little closing affirmation. So thank you for
Speaker 1: being with us, and thank you for giving the gift
Speaker 1: of this to yourself. And I invite you to now
Speaker 1: simply relax if you're in a place to that feels safe.
Speaker 1: To let your eyes close and just drop everything, the pencil,
Speaker 1: the phone, the whatever, just to be fully fully present,
Speaker 1: like water off a ducts back, and to simply breathe
Speaker 1: into this gift of now, this gift of now where
Speaker 1: we are present to that which is all that there is,
Speaker 1: to that very power that moves the planets around in
Speaker 1: perfect order, that intelligence and wisdom, that beautiful presence, that
Speaker 1: is energy, it's the life force. It's indestructible, and it
Speaker 1: is everything that there is. And we see this expressed
Speaker 1: in everything, everywhere, all the time, All that we can
Speaker 1: see and all that we cannot see, all that is unseen,
Speaker 1: it is all from the same source and all expressions
Speaker 1: of that. I know this is the truth of who
Speaker 1: I am, and I know that this is the truth
Speaker 1: of everyone within the sound of my voice. I know
Speaker 1: with every fiber of my being, everyone is a beautiful, unique,
Speaker 1: whole and complete individualization, specializing in them only one time
Speaker 1: around to experience this life. And so I call forth
Speaker 1: that willingness to be unscripted in a way that liberates them,
Speaker 1: in a way that they experience the freedom that is
Speaker 1: their birthright, the joy that it is at their fingertips
Speaker 1: every time they say yes to a heart's desire every
Speaker 1: time they say yes to an inner knowing an inner
Speaker 1: guidance and inner pulling towards a direction, towards an action,
Speaker 1: towards a word, a relationship, a new something. Every day
Speaker 1: being birthed anew in this way, celebrating life and accepting
Speaker 1: all that is already theirs. It is simply opening to
Speaker 1: these gifts, to this freedom, and to live authentically and
Speaker 1: joyfully with every breath they take in this gift we
Speaker 1: call life. I'm so grateful to know that this is
Speaker 1: true for all of us, And in that gratitude, I
Speaker 1: released this word into that cosmic womb of infinite potential,
Speaker 1: that place an absolute, unconditional love that always says, yes,
Speaker 1: my beloved, and you are my beloved. It is my
Speaker 1: love to give unto you that which is your desire,
Speaker 1: for yours and mine are the same. I let this be,
Speaker 1: and we allow it to be by saying yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so it is.
Speaker 2: And so it is. Happy birthday and happy anniversary. Now,
Speaker 2: what is the best way for people to find out
Speaker 2: more about richer within? To take a look at what
Speaker 2: you're doing, to work with you, to hire you all
Speaker 2: of the above, How do they go about that full expression.
Speaker 1: All of the above is a very full expression on
Speaker 1: my website Katherine Richer dot com and also on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I also have a YouTube channel, richer Within, and would love, love,
Speaker 1: love the opportunity to work with everybody, and so grateful
Speaker 1: for your presence here and for being lights in the world.
Speaker 2: I love it and I will never look out a
Speaker 2: lake in the same way us. Thank you, Kat, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for everything. Thank you all for tuning
Speaker 2: us in and turning us on. Remember this show will
Speaker 2: be replayed again later on. And of course if you
Speaker 2: go to Katherine Richard dot com, what you'll find are
Speaker 2: richer within dot com. Either way, you'll see this showing
Speaker 2: up in Catherine's player on our podcast page. All of
Speaker 2: the above is for all of you, fully expressed. We'll
Speaker 2: see you next time.
Speaker 1: I'm Starr. Thank you for investing in yourself by listening
Speaker 1: to richer Within with me. Catherine and doctor Pat continue
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Speaker 1: until next time, and always align with your inner wealth
Speaker 1: of wisdom. Wow.