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<v Speaker 1>Well Whiskey coming day.

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<v Speaker 2>From Powerline blog dot com and produced by Ricochet dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Three Whiskey Happy Hour with your bartenders

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Hayward, John You and power Lines International Woman of

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<v Speaker 2>Mystery Lucretia.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a Given where You're being.

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<v Speaker 1>In love down?

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Welcome everybody to the latest episode of the Three

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<v Speaker 4>Whiskey Happy Hour. I'm your host for today, John You,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm joined as always by my two indefagotable Churchill

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<v Speaker 4>loving hosts, Steve Hayward and Lucretia. Where are you, guys, Steve,

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<v Speaker 4>you seem to be far away up into the tundry north.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I'm at Hillsdale College for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days for a really fun conference. We're a gathering of

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<v Speaker 1>the Claremont Clan. Uh And I did I think listeners

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<v Speaker 1>should know that you were what in New York yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>to be on that Gonzo Fox show Outnumbered. So there

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<v Speaker 1>were four women and you on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's just me, that's just me going out for

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<v Speaker 4>drinks at night. What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know the four of them don't add up

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<v Speaker 1>to one, Lucretia, that's my point.

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<v Speaker 4>That's for sure, that's for sure. And Lucretia, where are you?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>I am home.

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<v Speaker 6>The childless cat lady is at home. I'm not childlessening, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a cat lady, so that I am a

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<v Speaker 1>cat lady.

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<v Speaker 6>I have this little rescue here. She is has dominated

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<v Speaker 6>the household.

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<v Speaker 5>Now she's taken over.

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<v Speaker 1>So cats are natural tyrants on for show.

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<v Speaker 5>Very much, so, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And I have a ninety pound German Shepherd that this

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<v Speaker 6>eight pound cat kickses, you know what.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's why I like her.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to have some even if you're a cat hater,

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<v Speaker 6>you got to have some respect for that, right. And

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<v Speaker 6>I understand a lot of people hate cats, but anyway, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate cats, right, dogs? Yes, But why don't we

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<v Speaker 4>turn this has been every week it gets crazier and crazier.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it used to be in the old days

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<v Speaker 4>you would worry about some kind of October surprise singular

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<v Speaker 4>that would affect the election at the last minute. And

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<v Speaker 4>seems we've got October surprise after October surprise after October surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're going to be it's going to be October

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<v Speaker 4>surprises from now on. But why don't we start with

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<v Speaker 4>the one that wasn't a surprise, which was the vice

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<v Speaker 4>presidential debate between Harris and Waltz. H. So why don't

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<v Speaker 4>we start off.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Vance and the Walls.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm sorry, yeah, I wish right, Well, they ought

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<v Speaker 4>to have a debate too. Now I've given all the

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<v Speaker 4>differences between yeah, that was a parent at the debate, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>sorry about that, between Vance and Waltz and Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you agree with the chattering classes view a that

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<v Speaker 4>Vance won, but that b it has no seems to

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<v Speaker 4>have no effect on the election.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think? Well, I have three thoughts. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that's the standard political science, regression analysis wisdom is

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<v Speaker 1>that debates don't affect outcomes. Of course, it affected it

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<v Speaker 1>for Joe Biden. I mean a debate finished him, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know I kind of think this year maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it does have a small effect, and in particular because

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<v Speaker 1>Vance defied expectations, including from some of the conservatives. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>come to that point. I have three thoughts. The first

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<v Speaker 1>is a star was born the other night. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>think that it's comparable, maybe not the equivalent, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>comparable to Reagan's famous speech for Goldwater in sixty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Vance was so impressive and it dispelled all

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<v Speaker 1>the cliches about him that the media and the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>threw at him. And by the way, that's point number two.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, and I guess I will name it because

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<v Speaker 1>I had the receipts. I remember the our friends had

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<v Speaker 1>commentary John Pott Hart's all the last after Vance was

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<v Speaker 1>named by Trump and this terrible appointment. He's awful, What

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible choice this was, and any and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's not really weird, but he's you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>off putting to voters and and pot hearts want as

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<v Speaker 1>far as to say, I think Trump is going to

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<v Speaker 1>drop him from the ticket. He has to drop him

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<v Speaker 1>from the ticket. It's like Eagleton in seventy two. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a millstone around the ticket. Well, no one's saying that, now,

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<v Speaker 1>are they right?

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<v Speaker 6>And at least no one by the way, sorry to

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<v Speaker 6>rup Steve, but no one's actually congratul congratulating Lucretia not

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<v Speaker 6>only for predicting JD. Vance, but for saying that was

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<v Speaker 6>the perfect choice for Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>Was I ever right? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Just well, well, that's my third point was a variation

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<v Speaker 1>of yours. Which is you know, now the Vance pick

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a case of far sightedness on Trump's part,

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<v Speaker 1>not just because he's more impressive than people expected or

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<v Speaker 1>the media tried to say. By the way, remember here's

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<v Speaker 1>the important thing. Probably seventy five percent of Americans had

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<v Speaker 1>maybe barely heard of Vance or hadn't heard of him

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<v Speaker 1>at all until now. I mean, we follow these things,

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<v Speaker 1>we know about the book, we may have seen the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, a lot of Americans have never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of him, people who don't follow politics, and now they've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him, and they say, oh, gosh, you know this

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<v Speaker 1>is this guy's actually really impressive, and he's clearly a

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<v Speaker 1>figure for the future win or lose under Trump a

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<v Speaker 1>month from now, and and so Trump picking him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump could have gone conventional. That's kind of what the

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<v Speaker 1>Pens pick was in twenty sixteen, you know, ticket balancing,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to peel to constituency. No. No, I been picking Vance.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump said, this is my successor, or once someone who

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<v Speaker 1>represents a worthy successor to the whole you know, wider

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<v Speaker 1>populist movement that is now in the ascendants of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what a rare I say, rare actors. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not quite right either. But Trump is often impulsive, does

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<v Speaker 1>things for his personal reasons. But here's a case where

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<v Speaker 1>you could say he committed an act of far sighted

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<v Speaker 1>statesmanship in picking Vance.

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<v Speaker 4>I think is this is this a case. Here's some

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<v Speaker 4>other things that the conservative commentators have been saying, which

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<v Speaker 4>is that the Advance does Trump better than Trump. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the way to put it is, as Steve said, Trump

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<v Speaker 4>does seem to go from you know, crisis to crisis,

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<v Speaker 4>decision decision, doesn't seem to make coherent sense, or maybe

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't have a coherent plan in mind. But Vance

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<v Speaker 4>actually tries to put it all together into some kind

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<v Speaker 4>of coherent ideology, and that's why he's doing so well.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just as if it's as if Trump had

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<v Speaker 4>all the education of a Yale Law school graduate, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump educated.

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<v Speaker 6>Trump is as educated in simple terms as Vance is.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just gonna he's of course, obviously not as articulate

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<v Speaker 6>all of those other things. I'm gonna you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>gonna say something a little bit shocking to you, guys.

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<v Speaker 6>I know that surprises you, but I'm feeling that way today.

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<v Speaker 6>So I remember the talk about kemal Am Ding Dong

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<v Speaker 6>being chosen as insurance for Biden.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, whatever this that.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you so, I'm gonna say it like this,

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<v Speaker 6>These last two assassination attempts against Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>Were probably.

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<v Speaker 6>Nutjobs who were in one way or another, groomed by

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<v Speaker 6>some nefarious something in the background. I won't allege it

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<v Speaker 6>was a CIA. I won't allege it was Obama. I'll

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<v Speaker 6>just say somebody, because it's otherwise way way too coincidental.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, So, thinking about any of those movies where

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<v Speaker 6>somebody hires a contract killer or an assassin and they

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<v Speaker 6>then they change their mind and they can't stop them.

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<v Speaker 6>What if there's more contract killers out there? You know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying contract killers, but what if there's more

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<v Speaker 6>people out there that have actually seriously been brainwashed or

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<v Speaker 6>whatever word you want to use, into thinking that Trump

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<v Speaker 6>is a threat to democracy? Et cetera, et cetera. Existential

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<v Speaker 6>vance is now the most incredible insurance against Trump another

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<v Speaker 6>Trump assassination, because you know, if something God forbid were

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<v Speaker 6>to happen to Trump, JD. Vance is the nominee or.

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<v Speaker 1>Six months from now president that Trump wins, or.

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<v Speaker 6>Six months from now president at any point when that happens,

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<v Speaker 6>and what we saw I think what I always believed,

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<v Speaker 6>but what we saw in the debate Tuesday night was

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<v Speaker 6>that exactly what John just said vans out Trump's Trump

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<v Speaker 6>and does it with class, with style, with a likability

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<v Speaker 6>and doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Have the baggage. And so you know, I see this as.

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<v Speaker 6>The future of whatever party it is that they actually represent,

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<v Speaker 6>not the John Pedoritz or the Mitt Romney or any

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<v Speaker 6>of those other slimy rhino people, but some party. It

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<v Speaker 6>may not be the Republican Party. There may be enough

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<v Speaker 6>of a backlash to Trump winning that those Bill Crystal

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<v Speaker 6>types actually formed their I don't know, but anyway, this

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<v Speaker 6>is the future of the party that will successfully challenge

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<v Speaker 6>the Democrats. And you probably could not pick a better

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<v Speaker 6>standard bearer than Jade Bans.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just impressed as hell.

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<v Speaker 6>I do want to talk really quickly about his abortion answer,

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<v Speaker 6>because that's caused also a lot of trouble with some

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<v Speaker 6>on the right. I think his answer to the abortion question,

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<v Speaker 6>where's what he said was the Republican Party has not

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<v Speaker 6>gained the trust of the American people. I believe what

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<v Speaker 6>he was really saying is that this is not simply

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<v Speaker 6>a matter of legislation.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a matter, as.

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<v Speaker 6>We've talked about before many times, of winning the hearts

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<v Speaker 6>and minds of the people. I mean people, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the usual suspects, the radical pro life which I consider

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<v Speaker 6>myself one. We're up in arms, he's he's coowtowing to

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<v Speaker 6>the left, he's equivocating on pro life positions.

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<v Speaker 5>Wasn't that at all? It was an.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolute recognition by a very savvy politician that if the

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<v Speaker 6>Republican Party and the pro life movement want to win

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<v Speaker 6>on this issue, they have to change heart and hearts

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<v Speaker 6>and minds before they force legislation down people's throats. And

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that was brilliant that what was what I

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<v Speaker 6>thought was his best moment, which of course lots of

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<v Speaker 5>So there you have it.

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<v Speaker 6>And you didn't even ask me about what I think

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<v Speaker 6>about Waltz.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure that anything really needs.

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<v Speaker 4>One question before maybe for the creation of this time

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<v Speaker 4>about the bait, I think many observers said that the

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<v Speaker 4>worst answer that Vance gave was his response to the

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<v Speaker 4>question about twenty twenty did your answers asked, did you

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<v Speaker 4>Biden won the election, and he said, I want to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the liberal censorship on the social media, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think, well, I think correctly said that's a non answer.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think is that a little bit highlight

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<v Speaker 4>the highlight in the low light for Vance? A lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people are saying that was the low light for Vance,

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<v Speaker 4>and then answer low light for Walt.

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<v Speaker 6>Again, that answer wasn't intended for us. It certainly not

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<v Speaker 6>for Steve and me. Might have been a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>for you, John, because you're one of those peopleho still

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't understand what happened on twenty twenty. But what I

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<v Speaker 6>took away from it wasn't what you just said. What

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<v Speaker 6>I took away from it was what are you talking

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<v Speaker 6>and if you'll recall, it was only Trump supporters who

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<v Speaker 6>were killed on that day, but okay, including Ashley Maddison,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's your only fan page?

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, Steve's getting frisky early on a Saturday. My god,

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<v Speaker 4>I worried for Charles later today.

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<v Speaker 6>And you might remind Charles of this, because I was

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<v Speaker 6>podcast One Time about January twenty, January sixth, on January twenty,

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<v Speaker 6>what happened on January twenty. Uh, Trump handed over power peacefully.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah see, I thought, maybe we've made his last word

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, look, it's a no win question for Dvance.

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<v Speaker 1>asymmetry of the punishment that's been meted out. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people have been there that given long jail sentences for trespassing,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas in your case, Governor Waltz, you stood by and

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<v Speaker 1>watched as your city burned, and then when people got arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris bailed them out. That would have been the

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's what I wanted to can I just

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<v Speaker 6>that is that. That's what I wanted him to say too. However,

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<v Speaker 6>that's been being said by people for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 6>And what came away for most people, again, the low

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<v Speaker 6>information voter that I wish I couldn't care, that I

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<v Speaker 6>call it, came away and said, what a friendly debate.

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<v Speaker 6>And in the midst of, you know, the the bemoaning

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<v Speaker 6>of our divided country, our acrimony is divided country.

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<v Speaker 5>There you have JD.

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<v Speaker 6>Vance showing a little bit different from Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna I'm gonna push back.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved how he pushed back on the silly stuff

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<v Speaker 6>about Haiti or Haitian immigrants. But but I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>People are gonna love me.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's what I took away from the final thing

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<v Speaker 6>of that answer. I of course wanted to exactly what

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<v Speaker 6>you said. I'm not sure that's what the low information

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<v Speaker 1>That could be right. I mean, I remember Lou Cannon,

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<v Speaker 1>saying Reagan is so nice. I don't see anybody wants

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<v Speaker 1>and Reagan first emerges, right, and then he sort of

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<v Speaker 1>Jade Vance was, there's one story I don't know his newsweaker.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the media sites said jd Vance is the

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<v Speaker 1>first candidate in eighty years to have facial hair. But

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<v Speaker 1>hysterically right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So we're at the end of our segment. My

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<v Speaker 4>my two observations is the elitist in me thinks this

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<v Speaker 4>was gonna happen? Two? And this is I think this

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<v Speaker 4>is where Waltz and Harris are a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>the same. They're both liberals who haven't never had to

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<v Speaker 4>run a tough election before, and so they're useful with

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<v Speaker 4>getting away, saying goofy things, non sharp answers, and just

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<v Speaker 4>getting elected because they're in very blue states, and when

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<v Speaker 4>they're confronted with a real challenge, they don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>to react, where as if you're a concerned you're getting

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<v Speaker 4>being on all the time, you know how to debate

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<v Speaker 4>because that's how you survive. Yes, we will, of course

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<v Speaker 4>ask that Trump if he prepares for a second debate.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously he needs to get Lucretia next time as the

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<v Speaker 4>debating partner to prepare him. That would lead to overwhelming victory. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>October Surprise number two, Hurricane Helene devastates large parts of Georgia,

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<v Speaker 4>South Carolina, North Carolina. We might remember that in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the twenty twelve election with days to go,

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<v Speaker 4>super Hurricane Sandy hit the East coast. People say that

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<v Speaker 4>it stopped Mitt Romney's momentum in the pulse had been

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<v Speaker 4>closing the gap. Some poles had him just within one

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<v Speaker 4>or two points. President Obama was seen to have launched

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<v Speaker 4>an energetic response. I think we all remember the pictures

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<v Speaker 4>of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie right, greeting Obama warmly.

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<v Speaker 4>Although when I saw a video of it, Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 4>I just saw a video of it, you know, Chris

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<v Speaker 4>Christy was a much bigger man than Obama is a

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<v Speaker 4>skinny little guy. I looked like a bear about to

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<v Speaker 4>eat poor baby Seal. I thought, what do you guys think,

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<v Speaker 4>Lucretians start with you, what do you think about the storm?

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<v Speaker 4>The response? I mean, this is over a week later,

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<v Speaker 4>and there are still people who haven't been found yet,

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<v Speaker 4>there's still supplies that aren't getting into the disasters. Trump

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<v Speaker 4>has made the claim that the Biden administration is slow

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<v Speaker 4>in its response because it appears I've seen the figures

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<v Speaker 4>that looks like most of these counties where the hurricanes

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<v Speaker 4>hit are mostly Republican counties. This may actually change for

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump's view on mail in voting, because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>see how you're going to be able to hold votes there.

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<v Speaker 4>You're going to have to do something unusual. But what

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<v Speaker 4>do you think I appreciate it. Is this going to

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<v Speaker 4>affect the election? What do you think is going to happen?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think about the response?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, let me just say first about the whole idea

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<v Speaker 6>of changing your view.

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<v Speaker 5>On mail in voting.

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<v Speaker 6>Those of us who are adamantly opposed to mail in

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<v Speaker 6>voting think that something like this should be a should

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<v Speaker 6>be an exception to the rule that I mean, these

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<v Speaker 6>people have a perfectly legitimate reason why they may not

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<v Speaker 6>be able to get to the polls. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 6>that mail in voting is going to help them much

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<v Speaker 6>right now, either, to be honest with you, because the

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<v Speaker 6>mails are not going through. But anyway, mail in voting

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<v Speaker 6>should not be for someone too lazy to show up

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<v Speaker 6>on election day.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my opinion.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you don't make the time to do it

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<v Speaker 6>under most circumstances, if you have no legitimate reason, you

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<v Speaker 6>obviously don't care enough to vote, you shouldn't be voting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>that's my I I was walking across campus the other

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<v Speaker 6>day and this little sorry, I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 6>say it, this little twitch, she's probably all of nineteen.

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<v Speaker 5>Years old, stops me. Are you registered to vote?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god?

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<v Speaker 6>And I was already in a bad mood, and I

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<v Speaker 6>registered to vote, you twit, And I just kept walking.

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<v Speaker 6>I couldn't help myself, because you know what I hate

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<v Speaker 6>more than anything, are these people out registering idiots to vote?

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<v Speaker 1>The vote? Right all that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, right? Okay, yeah, rock the vote. That's right, although

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<v Speaker 4>this generation it would be wine the vote, but go ahead, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Wind the vote. Pardon me? So this is actually serious business.

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<v Speaker 6>I read a lot this morning, and all of it

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<v Speaker 6>came with the caveat. But Elon Musk says that his

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<v Speaker 6>people who are trying to set up Starlink, who are

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<v Speaker 6>bringing in helicopters worth full of supplies, are being prevented

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<v Speaker 6>from doing so by FEMA. Yeah, FEMA's denying it, but

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<v Speaker 6>they're not. For instance, if I was FEMA and somebody

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<v Speaker 6>was saying this about me, and I was actually, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 6>assisting in the recovery, the volunteer recovery efforts, which my

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<v Speaker 6>understanding is are being turned away all the time. I

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<v Speaker 6>would provide evidence of that. I would say, no, that's

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<v Speaker 6>not true. Look here's what we're doing here, and I

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<v Speaker 6>would give pictures and so on. But instead they're just

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<v Speaker 6>denying it. But the problem is that we have that

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<v Speaker 6>that idiot MAJORCA say, yeah, sorry, we spend all the

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<v Speaker 6>money to make it to hurricane season. Dumb at Sorry, sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>Kim lamading Dong. I'm getting exercised about this.

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<v Speaker 5>Kim La ma ding Dong never offered seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, I don't even know what seven hundred

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<v Speaker 6>get to a store to buy supplies. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 6>heard Eric Trump say seven hundred and fifty dollars won't

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<v Speaker 6>even rememb replace your big screen TV in most cases,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. I mean, it's just the whole thing is

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<v Speaker 6>just creepy. It stinks to high heaven.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>I refuse to believe that Elon Musk and others on

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<v Speaker 6>the ground are so corrupt that they're actually accusing FEMA

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<v Speaker 6>and the federal government of stopping the relief efforts without

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<v Speaker 6>any evidence for doing so. The left might do that,

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<v Speaker 6>but that's not the way the right operates. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>let's be serious here. They don't lie about things like that. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>in a country where media is instant. Okay, maybe they

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<v Speaker 6>don't want those counties that are Republican to vote, but

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<v Speaker 6>do they really think that that the news of them

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<v Speaker 6>isn't going to get out?

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<v Speaker 5>Are they just that dumb?

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<v Speaker 1>So no, I think it's uh, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>worse than you. That's a rare occasion when I think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not that things are worse than Lucretius says, first

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<v Speaker 1>five days to get there, and then twiddle their thumbs,

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<v Speaker 1>we hear all about how the president hates black people, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and instead their commaty is giving Biden Harris a free pass.

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<v Speaker 1>and that was actually a little TikTok video from Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Boodoo judge announcing a ban on any drone private drone

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<v Speaker 1>flights in the whole affected area. So paus for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's now a regular practice of the Forest

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<v Speaker 1>Service and local police that if someone's missing in a

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<v Speaker 1>forest or if there's a forest fire breaks out, they

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<v Speaker 1>fly drones because you can spot people who were lost.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how they find some lost hikers and so forth right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the claim is, well, it's unsaved because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have our helicopters and stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's an exceedingly remote problem. But beyond that, here's

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<v Speaker 1>where I, you know, I start to put on a

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<v Speaker 1>barrow of Lucreasu's tinfoil. Hat. I wonder if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want these drones flying around because there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>too much information. You're going to see devastating footage of

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<v Speaker 1>people abandoned on the rooftops out and because there's still

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<v Speaker 1>apparently hundreds of people missing, and it's been a week now,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, this is getting really desperate, and you

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<v Speaker 1>would seen to me that the sensible thing to do

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<v Speaker 1>would be to say, please fly your drones, tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what you find. It will help us identify people who

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<v Speaker 1>need rescue, and we can That's not what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're you know, they're doing the usual bureaucratic we're in charge,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody can do anything until we give you permission,

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<v Speaker 1>which is going to be slow, right, and I can

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<v Speaker 1>go on from there. That's my I'll stop there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm gonna be careful.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you're right. It's just I knew about that too.

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<v Speaker 6>I just, you know, trying to keep it a little shorter.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been contacted by military folks who at the bases

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<v Speaker 6>Liberty and so forth that are close to very close

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<v Speaker 6>to the worst sights of the damage. They want to go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>they want to go help, and the big brass are

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<v Speaker 6>preventing them from doing so. The National Guard, which is

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<v Speaker 6>not under the it has hasn't been federalized, so it's

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<v Speaker 6>not under the corrupt Central Pentagon brass Is. I mean

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<v Speaker 6>from practically every state has been sending National Guard to help,

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<v Speaker 6>but even they are being hindered by FEMA.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand.

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<v Speaker 6>This morning, North Carolina put out the governor there put

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<v Speaker 6>out the word that any federal agent that tries to

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<v Speaker 6>interfere with a relief effort will be arrested. That if

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<v Speaker 6>that's all true, that's going to make for some interesting kinds.

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<v Speaker 6>We have to bring John back and he'll have to

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<v Speaker 6>tell us why it is that that's a violation of.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a Democrat. That's a Democrat governor by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So interesting, Well, again, what about.

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<v Speaker 1>The it doesn't want? But John's not going to take

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<v Speaker 1>your bait with Christianity, shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Thankfully I'm the host today and can't get involved your

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<v Speaker 4>internet scene battles and your conspiracy theories today. So well,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you think the effect this will have on

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<v Speaker 4>the election? So you've both said that you think the

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<v Speaker 4>response has been maybe partisan, but certainly lacking and.

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<v Speaker 1>Contradictory.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this could have been this could have century,

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<v Speaker 4>This could have been Christeve loves this kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>crowdsourcing and private ordering, right, you could have seen maybe

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<v Speaker 4>a kind of crowdsourced relief effort because of the failures

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<v Speaker 4>of this top down, centralized FEMA system that doesn't seems

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<v Speaker 4>to work less and less well. But let me ask

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<v Speaker 4>you the second question, what effect do you think this

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<v Speaker 4>is going to have on the election? Is this going

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<v Speaker 4>to be like Hurricane Katrina in two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 4>which was right after President Bush's realed But many people

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<v Speaker 4>say that was the beginning of his political collapse. Was

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<v Speaker 4>the impression of the failed response in New Orleans. However,

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<v Speaker 4>Obama's response to Superstorm Standy seemed to help his campaign

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<v Speaker 4>may be locked in his win prevented Mitt Romney from

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<v Speaker 4>making a comeback. What do you think this storm and

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<v Speaker 4>the response is going to have in its effects on

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<v Speaker 4>the election?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, all right, there's a little revision of history

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<v Speaker 1>should be done, which is the story in Katrina was

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<v Speaker 1>massive incompetence on the part of the local government in

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans, which refused to request National Guard help from

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<v Speaker 1>either the president or the governor that they could have did. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll cut that story short, because that's true. We're got

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<v Speaker 1>blamed and because the media spun it that way, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>The reverse an interesting standing. Yeah, there's an interesting constitutional

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<v Speaker 4>issue there because the law is written. These are the

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<v Speaker 4>Emergency the Stafford Act, and these are things I actually

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<v Speaker 4>read about and work on. But it's an interesting political

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<v Speaker 4>problem because a governor has to invite the federal government

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<v Speaker 4>to come in, unless it's in a federal If the

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<v Speaker 4>governor refuses, then there's other triggers to allow the president

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<v Speaker 4>to do it. But a lot of governors initially don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to do it because if you do, you look

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<v Speaker 4>like you failed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, So there's that and and

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Sandy was a triumph of image, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the media loved Obama. That was a much

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<v Speaker 1>more minor you know, the media looked at the places

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<v Speaker 1>that the isolated places that did get hit very hard

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<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey, but and some flooding in Manhattan and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was a pretty mild episode. In fact, it

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<v Speaker 1>was actually, to be precise, Sandy was a tropical storm

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<v Speaker 1>at the time it made landfall. It wasn't even a

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<v Speaker 1>Category one hurricane at that point. It still does damage,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing like what we're seeing now. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>question is the big story here, I think once again

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<v Speaker 1>is the utter incompetence of the federal government, and the

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<v Speaker 1>media is going to cover that up. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>one question I have as well, I think American people

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<v Speaker 1>kind of know this about FEMA and the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole, but can you get the message out?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know if Trump should how much

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<v Speaker 1>Trump should try to exploit it, because there are bigger

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<v Speaker 1>things than that issue. But it's not going to hurt him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to, you know, if anything will help him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I saw a tweet I think it was

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<v Speaker 6>Sean Davis from the Federalists the other day, and it

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<v Speaker 6>was something on the order of our FEMA, our federal government,

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<v Speaker 6>FEMA can't respond to an emergency, our DOJ can't prosecute criminals.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a.

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<v Speaker 6>Whole list of failures by major federal agencies and he

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<v Speaker 6>said they exist just to take our money.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm sorry, go.

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<v Speaker 5>Ahead, Steve, I'll come back to my point quick, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick FEMA story. I mean, you had I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was two winters ago. You may remember this, John. We had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, very heavy rains, a lot of flooding out

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<v Speaker 1>in the Sleekness Valley and yeah, uh, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>little town Santa Ardo almost got washed away, So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Like two months later, I'm walking down

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<v Speaker 1>the main street in Templeton and there's a big FEMA

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<v Speaker 1>truck is rolled up and they commandeer the community hall

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<v Speaker 1>and I walk in and there's always bureaucrats to their

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<v Speaker 1>laptops open. What's going on. Oh, we we're from FEMA

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<v Speaker 1>and we're here to help people process their disaster claims.

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<v Speaker 1>You have two months after it's sober and there was

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<v Speaker 1>nobody in there. There was nobody going in filing a claim.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought, I'm gonna I'm gonna be amused by this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go and order a cup of coffee across

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<v Speaker 1>the street, sat for an hour and my phone and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody came. But you know, that's what FEMA does. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>show up and write checks two months later.

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<v Speaker 7>It's okay, Yeah, I'm a little bit lucretia, real quick,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a little bit this time.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll go farther than Steve. I don't think this is

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<v Speaker 6>entirely uh, incompetence as usual.

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<v Speaker 5>I am.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm much more suspicious about the motives of I do

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<v Speaker 6>think incompetence plays a very large role in it. Just

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<v Speaker 6>like incompetence play plays a large role in so the

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<v Speaker 6>whole Secret Service of failures on Trump. But yeah, blame

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<v Speaker 6>some of that on DEI, I get it. Blame some

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<v Speaker 6>of it on the fact that that the federal government

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<v Speaker 6>spends most of its time not doing what it's supposed

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<v Speaker 6>to be doing in those agencies, but doing training and

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<v Speaker 6>DEI stuff and then watching porn all day.

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<v Speaker 5>I get that.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think that there is there is in fact,

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<v Speaker 6>a part is an angle to this. And I also

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<v Speaker 6>think that again, this is Appalaysia, whether they're Trump voters

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<v Speaker 6>or not, they don't They just don't give a dam

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<v Speaker 6>in Washington about what happens in the middle of the country.

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<v Speaker 6>That was clear in the the whole Ohio train incident,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I mean, they just don't care now if

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<v Speaker 6>it had happened in Washington, DC or or something like that.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what, They're still traumatized by January sixth. But

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<v Speaker 6>I do think that there's a part of an element

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<v Speaker 6>to it, Steve. That's only exacerbated by the ranking competence

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<v Speaker 6>that pertains now and is worse because of that kind

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<v Speaker 6>of ideological bent to the federal government and to the

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<v Speaker 6>federal bureaucracy. I mean, they don't hire the best and

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<v Speaker 6>the brightest, and if they ever did those best and brightest,

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<v Speaker 6>we'd get kicked out somehow. They're just a bunch of

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<v Speaker 6>slugs working for the federal government. Basically, Sorry, I hope

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<v Speaker 6>we don't have too many of those people that are listening.

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<v Speaker 5>Audience.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's Lucretia calling all federal employees slugs. Makes a

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<v Speaker 4>nice time for our next commercial break and a word

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<v Speaker 4>from our sponsors. Now coming back, where Lucretia is going

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<v Speaker 4>to find more and vertebrates to insult. Oh, we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to talking about a third October surprise, which is the

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<v Speaker 4>mushrooming war in the Middle East. We now have the

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<v Speaker 4>war between Israel and Iran and its proxies. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>we're coming up on the one year bursary of the

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<v Speaker 4>October seventh attack by Hamasen to Israel, and Israel launched

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<v Speaker 4>a response and Gaza is rooting out Hamasa's whipek. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>that campaign seems to be coming closer to an end,

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<v Speaker 4>and now Israel is turning towards the north, towards Hezbollah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't think we've talked about it quite a

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<v Speaker 4>lot on the show. But it's an extensive campaign to

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<v Speaker 4>attack the AMAS leadership, including attacking the famous campaign to

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<v Speaker 4>destroy it, people holding certain beepers and walkie talkies and

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<v Speaker 4>now but now more direct strikes. Uh, and Iran launched.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize this. Iran launched the largest missile attack

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<v Speaker 4>by one country on another This week they launched almost

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred ballistic missiles against Israel. What is going to

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<v Speaker 4>happen next? And what should Israel do? What should the

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<v Speaker 4>United States be doing? One comment made by the Wall

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<v Speaker 4>Street Journal an editorial page was an ally of ours

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<v Speaker 4>gets attacked by the largest missile attack in the history

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<v Speaker 4>of the world, and the President of the United States

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<v Speaker 4>immediately starts defending the attacker, Iran, saying, don't don't fire back.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the win, be limited. You shouldn't escalation, Yeah, practice restrained. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people commented st yeah, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the pusillanimous nature of the Biden foreign policy really requires

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<v Speaker 1>no additional comment. There is one aspect of this, though, John,

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<v Speaker 1>that has has not been comment to the plant. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds a little technical, and you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the ins and outs of missile defense, but what

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<v Speaker 1>we hear is that we were very successful in intercepting

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ninety percent or more of the missiles that

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<v Speaker 1>are on shot. But it's also reported, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how accurate and meaningful, that they had some hypersonic

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<v Speaker 1>missiles that are hard for ours to intercept. And third,

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<v Speaker 1>this goes back to the early days of SDI forty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, which is it's always thought that maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>could overwhelm these systems with a massive barrage. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is the second barrage of Iranian missiles, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>they were successfully intercepted, but those interceptors are expensive. Are

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<v Speaker 1>we procuring enough of them to replace all the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that are being used up or are we short? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the answer to that. But my final question

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<v Speaker 1>is I wonder if this is a dry run for

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<v Speaker 1>Iran they want to figure out and they're gathering data,

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<v Speaker 1>how many missiles do we need to shoot to overwhelm

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<v Speaker 1>the system and how do we successfully get through a

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<v Speaker 1>missile with the nuclear warhead on it. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the game the Iranians are playing, because otherwise this is

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<v Speaker 1>a reckless thing for them to do. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they're ready, and we keep hearing they could break

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<v Speaker 1>it out with a nuclear warhead pretty fast. Why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>expect them to want to figure out a way to

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<v Speaker 1>land it on Tel Aviv? And I hear no one

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that possibility.

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<v Speaker 4>But Lucretia, Steve, this is a prelude to World War three, well,

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<v Speaker 4>a nuclear exchange in the MIDI Lucretia, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>think if Steve right? And what does that mean for

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<v Speaker 4>American policy?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, I think the second part of your

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<v Speaker 6>question is irrelevant, John, because American foreign policy is I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think there is one, is there? I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 6>the American foreign policy is very much to blame for

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<v Speaker 6>the situation that we're in right now because the Biden

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<v Speaker 6>administration has been so feckless. How could you have destroyed

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<v Speaker 6>the gains that so quickly have destroyed the games that

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<v Speaker 6>were made by Trump in the Middle East?

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<v Speaker 5>You couldn't. I couldn't write a script for a movie that.

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<v Speaker 6>Because it would be unbelievable that there could be so

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<v Speaker 6>much stupidity involved there. And you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 6>things I think is actually the best thing to come

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<v Speaker 6>out of it is, at least for the time being,

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't matter what Biden or any of those idiots in

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<v Speaker 6>the Biden Harris White House have to say about it

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<v Speaker 6>or the Pentagon right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Nah, who couldn't give a damn? I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't need your support any longer. You know, I

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<v Speaker 6>know they're getting support, but you know, we can send money.

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<v Speaker 6>We are sending money, by the way, to Lebanon. We're

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<v Speaker 6>sending relief money to Lebanon. I can't even go there.

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<v Speaker 6>But my point is, I think Israel will continue to

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<v Speaker 6>do what Israel needs to do. I pray to God

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<v Speaker 6>they have the resources to do it, however they need

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<v Speaker 6>to get them, and I think that they will come

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<v Speaker 6>out victorious and it will all be be without the

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<v Speaker 6>active assistance of the United States government, which should be

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<v Speaker 6>its closest ally in my opinion, And so I find

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<v Speaker 6>the whole thing appalling. That's really I mean, Steve, Steve

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<v Speaker 6>gave a much more intelligent, factual answer.

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<v Speaker 5>Mine's just an impression.

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<v Speaker 4>Steve is the son of an aerospace engineer, So what

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<v Speaker 4>does he want to talk about? Does the missile defense work?

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<v Speaker 4>He wants to know how much did the missiles cost?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? How many?

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<v Speaker 6>By the way, I know it's not Babylon b time,

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<v Speaker 6>but this is so appropriate from the Babylon b I

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<v Speaker 6>had told her frantically googles how to build iron dome

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<v Speaker 6>thingy fast.

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<v Speaker 4>But Steve so these last two examples, this one if

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<v Speaker 4>Lucretia is right, and about the fecklessness of the Bide administration.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the last one we talked is we talked

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<v Speaker 4>about the hurt came response again, feebleness, lack of energy,

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<v Speaker 4>lack of right, all the qualities of the executive that

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<v Speaker 4>are described in the Federal's papers by agus Lander Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think this will have an effect on the election?

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<v Speaker 4>You're seeing the October surprises actually seem to be hurting

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<v Speaker 4>the incumbent administration. Do you think that this is going

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<v Speaker 4>to compound all the concerns that people already have about

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<v Speaker 4>Kamala Harris that she won't engage with voters, won't do

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<v Speaker 4>public events, won't sit down for interviews, has never really

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<v Speaker 4>done anything. Nobody knows what she stands for. This is, strangely

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<v Speaker 4>or all these things somehow snowballing into for Trump's advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is so much fun because it gives me

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to annoy Lucretia in my usual way. You

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<v Speaker 1>go back you go back to nineteen seventy when Reagan's

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<v Speaker 1>running for reelection as governor and you hit all the

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<v Speaker 1>campus riots, and somebody said, every campus riot gives Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>another one hundred thousand votes. And I think the parallel

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<v Speaker 1>here is an Actually lycretia is not in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm not so crazy, mister analogy man is. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>what's you know, let's see what hell? What see that?

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<v Speaker 1>I know I's on my list the movie The Reagan.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but we lived through watch movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Look, I mean next week, I mean, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have one post on this. You know, the left

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<v Speaker 1>is going to want to march in the streets next week.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to tie up traffic in Manhattan. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see how it all goes. Harris will avoid trying

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<v Speaker 1>to comment at all. But you know, if you really

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<v Speaker 1>get a groundwar going in a big way in southern Lebanon,

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<v Speaker 1>which looks like that's already started or may ramp up,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's going to cause the crazy anti war,

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<v Speaker 1>anti anti Israel left to take to the streets and

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<v Speaker 1>make a big nuisance of themselves, and that all helps Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's what I think so.

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<v Speaker 6>Can I just really a little bit off topic, but

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<v Speaker 6>can I point out that the US two polls in

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<v Speaker 6>Michigan have come out in favor of Trump, and even

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<v Speaker 6>though real clear polling has in the no toss up

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<v Speaker 6>map has Michigan going for Harris. She's up zero point

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<v Speaker 6>seven percent in Michigan. Do you think she can afford

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<v Speaker 6>not to comment on if those things happen on Monday?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she works.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the problem. Yeah, the problem is that she

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<v Speaker 4>the reason I was reading a story just before that

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<v Speaker 4>said support by Arab Americans for Harris is dropping because

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<v Speaker 4>they are really upset about the Bide administration being too

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<v Speaker 4>supportive of Israel, not too late.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my point.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, And I don't know what you do about

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<v Speaker 6>that if you're in their position. And my question really

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<v Speaker 6>quick for you guys, if you're one of those Arab

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<v Speaker 6>Americans that are upset with Harris, you don't vote, right,

752
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:52.519
<v Speaker 6>you don't go vote for Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>You just don't just don't show up.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, yeah, Well, let's take a question on the

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<v Speaker 5>Senate race.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's make our last commercial break, and when we come back,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll talk about the only intentional October surprise that and

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<v Speaker 4>see whether this one is working. So we'll be back

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<v Speaker 4>after you hear from our commercial sponsors. And now we're back,

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<v Speaker 4>and we've been talking about what used to be acts

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<v Speaker 4>of God or force majeure right, war, hurricanes impacting the

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<v Speaker 4>presidential election. All. You know, the Steve will really get

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<v Speaker 4>through when I say this word exogenous events.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you're hitting my exogenous zones.

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<v Speaker 4>John, Oh, no, Lucretia, you long ago made this family show.

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<v Speaker 4>So but this one here, we have one that's endogenous.

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<v Speaker 4>So Steve's gotten excited. Now here's a case where we

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<v Speaker 4>have an intentional October surprise from within the system. And

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<v Speaker 4>this was Jack Smith's one hundred and seventy page follow up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not an indictment, and he's already indicted Trump, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's an expansion on an explanation. Well, I think the

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<v Speaker 4>former leaders. It's a profit. It's what the prosecution says

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to show at trial by Jack Smith the

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<v Speaker 4>Independent Council against Donald Trump for his involvement in the

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<v Speaker 4>January sixth attack on the Capitol. There's no way the

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<v Speaker 4>trial could even remotely get started before the election. So

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<v Speaker 4>the timing looks awfully suspicious. So Steve, first, is the

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<v Speaker 4>timing suspicious? And then two, is this in a tober surprise?

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to work?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you could predictably perhaps the newspapers and new shows

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<v Speaker 4>were filled with stories about what was in the new

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<v Speaker 4>document from Jackson and saying that it's brought back to

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<v Speaker 4>the voter's minds. January sixth, and if you were just

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<v Speaker 4>looking at this morning's Washington Post, sorry, Lucretia, they have

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<v Speaker 4>a story saying that Kamala Harris's campaign is going to

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<v Speaker 4>turn negative on Trump and going to use a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of this material in the closing weeks because so far

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<v Speaker 4>they've been running too positive a campaign and now they

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<v Speaker 4>really are working. They got to get across the finish

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<v Speaker 4>line and they're gonna turn negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve, God, the month slinging has begun. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a rough camp. Look, so you said this is not

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<v Speaker 1>an act of God, but Jack Smith thinks he's God,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least a lesser detail of some kind. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is this is this a gear to the election?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, is the Pope Catholic to keep going with

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<v Speaker 1>the stasistic thing. I haven't read the filing. I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>not going to I read some news accounts that play

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<v Speaker 1>up the salacious allegations. A lot of this looks like

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<v Speaker 1>hears say to me and problematic at a trial. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the important part. The thing to me that is,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put it this way, this is very brief and

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<v Speaker 1>uh so, Lucretia and I have talked about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>low information voters, you know, morons in other words, and

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<v Speaker 1>people who are undecided. And I really am thinking, are

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<v Speaker 1>there really a significant number of people out there say, gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm undecided about Trump, but gosh, this Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Smith filing, this latest one that turns it. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna help me make up my mind. I think at

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<v Speaker 1>this point it's it's you know, we've been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for so long now that it's one more you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pebble in the river, and I don't think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have much effect.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, and we're still told minorities right that I shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not calling them low information minorities. But what we're

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<v Speaker 6>actually seeing our voters who are moving from is call

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<v Speaker 6>it the Democratic Party to the Republican Party, moving from

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<v Speaker 6>that might have voted for Clinton or Biden in the

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<v Speaker 6>last two elections are now moving towards Trump. Even ruy

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<v Speaker 6>Ti Chera had an article about Hispanics. And for all

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<v Speaker 6>the reasons why the percentage that the ratio between the

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<v Speaker 6>two candidates is dropping in Trump's favor or it's changing

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<v Speaker 6>in Trump's favor, I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>I should say I think.

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<v Speaker 6>That with some of those voters, we've seen evidence, at

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<v Speaker 6>least Hispanic males African American males, this is just one

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<v Speaker 6>more proof that that Trump's the man, or Trump's being

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<v Speaker 6>persecuted by the man in the same way that they

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<v Speaker 6>often feel they are. That's that's you know, I'm oversimplifying,

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<v Speaker 6>but you get what I'm saying, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I'm hearing a lot of anecdotes and social.

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<v Speaker 4>Media though, well Trumps to the criminal crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, it's well, it's well, there's there is an

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of that. That's maybe we're talking about, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>short of time. Look, I keep seeing anecdotes and it

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<v Speaker 1>shows up on social media, and you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>true that the plural anecdote is data. However, I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it is. People say I don't like Trump, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't stand him, and I'm voting for him because he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they like what he represents. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>give the middle finger the establishment. They're sick of the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a I think there's a significant number,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean statistically significant number of people that who probably

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<v Speaker 1>think that way.

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<v Speaker 5>So so John, let me be serious and ask you

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<v Speaker 5>a question.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let me Yeah, I was gonna Can I just

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<v Speaker 4>make one point of one or two points about the

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<v Speaker 4>thing because I did read it, I just out of

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<v Speaker 4>professional curiosity. Yeah and yeah, yeah, to one thing is

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<v Speaker 4>a lot if this I don't think this case is

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<v Speaker 4>really ever going to get to trial, but if it were,

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<v Speaker 4>the star witness is going to be Lucretia's favorite guy,

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Pence. So to the extent, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of new information because what the what Jack Smith is

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<v Speaker 4>trying to show is he basically didn't change the indictment

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<v Speaker 4>at all in response to the Supreme Court. This guy

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<v Speaker 4>is just a terrible prosecutor. But what he's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>do is say President Trump committed fraud because he knew

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<v Speaker 4>he had lost, and all his actions were just lying.

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<v Speaker 4>So how does he try to prove that Trump really

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<v Speaker 4>knew he had lost. Extensive discussions between Pence and Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>where Pence tries to convince Trump that he's lost and tried,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's only really new information. I think that's of

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<v Speaker 4>any note in the indictment. So pens is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be the star witness at any trial. This will be amazing, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like this is better than the Aaron Burr trial. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a vice president testifying at the criminal trial of

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<v Speaker 4>his president about things they spoke about. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to ask Pence, do you really think that

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<v Speaker 4>Trump knew he lost the election? And was he committing fraud?

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<v Speaker 4>That's the one really interesting thing I think factually from

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<v Speaker 4>the indictment.

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<v Speaker 6>So I just wanted to ask you from the former

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<v Speaker 6>DOJ employee point of view. I know that you've told

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<v Speaker 6>me before that those kinds of guidelines about not doing

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<v Speaker 6>things that would interfere with the election are just that guidelines.

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<v Speaker 6>They're not laws regulations inside of the DOJ.

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<v Speaker 5>But what have we done now?

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<v Speaker 6>Because Jack Smith and Chuck Can I have a new

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<v Speaker 6>name for her.

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<v Speaker 5>But I won't say it today.

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<v Speaker 1>I can guess.

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<v Speaker 6>They have destroyed so many norms, so many of the

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<v Speaker 6>rule of law norms, so many of the things that

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<v Speaker 6>kept the DOJ at least with some appearance of objectivity

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<v Speaker 6>prior to this whole lawfair mess.

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<v Speaker 5>Are we done? I mean, is it over?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. Well, if Harris wins, it's done.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't mean that.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, is the DOJ forever sullied and will never

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<v Speaker 6>be able to return from being a law enforcement arm

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<v Speaker 6>of the Democratic Party?

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<v Speaker 2>You do.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think the whole department is, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>Jack Smith is. I think this is a real indictment

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<v Speaker 4>of having special counsels, although I'm not sure he's really

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<v Speaker 4>acting at odds with what Merrick Garland and Joe Biden want.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Garland in his speech, remember said I approve every decision.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think you know, you're seeing a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>media reports handwringing about whether President Trump will use the

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<v Speaker 4>Justice Department to take revenge on his enemies. But the

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<v Speaker 4>real task is I think what you're talking about, Lucretia,

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<v Speaker 4>for the next Attorney General, it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 4>hard job is to restore public faith in law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not just federal it's state too, because you've

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<v Speaker 4>had these das in New York City and Atlanta also

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<v Speaker 4>persecuting Trump. All of these clearly intended because of their timing,

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<v Speaker 4>to affect the elections. So I think, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 4>you think about what they'd have to do, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>first you'd have to fire a lot of these people

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<v Speaker 4>whoever becomes Attorney general, and then start to restore the

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<v Speaker 4>reputation integrity for integrity of the Justice Department and states

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<v Speaker 4>and cities too. That's a huge monumental undertaking.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not the host, but they have a quick question

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<v Speaker 6>for you guys. So you know my prediction that if

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<v Speaker 6>the law fair didn't work against Trump, and the assassination

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<v Speaker 6>attempts didn't work against Trump, and now my theory is

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<v Speaker 6>that they won't work even if they do assassinate Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>But all that's left now is to cheat. Sorry John,

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<v Speaker 6>but I'm gonna say that all that's left is for

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<v Speaker 6>the Democrats to cheat one way or the other. Do

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<v Speaker 6>you think, Steve, let me start with you, because that

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<v Speaker 6>would my question requires John to go along with the premises,

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<v Speaker 6>and he may not. But do you think the Republicans

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<v Speaker 6>have done enough in terms of hiring lawyers? I guess

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<v Speaker 6>they've got a lot of volunteer lawyers who are willing

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<v Speaker 6>to help with the legal issues involved at the polls,

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<v Speaker 6>they've got poll watchers, they've got a ground game in

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<v Speaker 6>that way.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think it will be enough?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think we should take the subject up

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<v Speaker 1>for a whole extended consideration next week or the week after,

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<v Speaker 1>only because it's a lot to it and there are

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<v Speaker 1>things that are quite different from four years ago, partly

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, some of the COVID stuff. Some states

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<v Speaker 1>changed laws. There is more prep work and that U

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<v Speaker 1>and I know a little bit about it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know more before and I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me let me back Steve up on that host prerogative.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm shutting you down, Lucretia. Yeah that felt so good,

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<v Speaker 4>said that, but yeah, because we're out of time. And

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<v Speaker 4>let me also say I was the other reason I

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<v Speaker 4>was on the East Coast this week was I was

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<v Speaker 4>at a conference at the Heritage Foundation about election integrity,

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<v Speaker 4>and I learned lots of interesting things and there is

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<v Speaker 4>a lot to talk about. So maybe we should make

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<v Speaker 4>this a special focus of next week's episode, when I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's Lucretia's turn to host too. So it's a

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<v Speaker 4>perfect act of God, Lucretia, Lucretia, you have our Babylon

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<v Speaker 4>be headlines of the week.

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<v Speaker 6>I wish we had an hour left, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 6>even talk about the The latest little bit of scandal

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<v Speaker 6>coming out of the Hare of Spiden me Harris Walt's campaign.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's the fact.

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<v Speaker 6>That Harris, with her her husband and waltz redefining masculinity

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<v Speaker 6>away from toxic masculinity. The Doug m Hoff is credibly

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<v Speaker 6>accused of having basically beat the you know what out

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<v Speaker 6>of a girl he was dating at one point. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>so first Babylon Bee trembling bleeding spokeswoman issues statement denying

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<v Speaker 6>that Doug m Hoff would ever hit a woman.

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<v Speaker 5>I love the Babylon beat. Teama reports they.

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<v Speaker 6>Spent all the taxpayer funding on a sweet PowerPoint presentation

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<v Speaker 6>about racial inequalities. North Carolina asks Zelenski for one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>billion dollars in US funding. DOJ indicts jd Vance for

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<v Speaker 6>brutally beating three women And it's a picture of the

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<v Speaker 6>two moderators and right, uh, then you guys will get

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<v Speaker 6>this since you said it's no longer a family show, John,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't really get it. But Tim Walt's pulling strong

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<v Speaker 6>among men who choose middle.

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<v Speaker 7>Urinal Oh, you don't get that really?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I do, although I had never used one.

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<v Speaker 6>All Right, school school shooters distanced themselves from Tim Walt.

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<v Speaker 5>What was that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>You never even got to the whole.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because he was so damn nervous and he prepared

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<v Speaker 6>for how long? Anyway, young hesbela recruit, can't believe he's

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<v Speaker 6>already been made regional manager and understand the latest one

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<v Speaker 6>has been killed too, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't that true? I'm sorry?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, one last one campaign quietly Ansel's release of new

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<v Speaker 6>Doug wife Beater.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's okay, okay, well, Steve, let me take us

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<v Speaker 4>out with always drink your whiskey meat. Let's go, Brandon

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<v Speaker 4>and Steve. What's our new sign off?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Today I'm working on several versions. Today, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>with a succinct version of Camelo, which is feel the joy, people,

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<v Speaker 1>feel the joy?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, buy everybody and see you next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Ricochet join the conversation
