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Welcome back to All Sportsdiscussion dot com.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Yeah joined us as as you mean yourself. Matthew. Yeah,

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I don't think he's joined yet. Matthew as a speaker,

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Speaker 2: It was a heck. It was a heck of a

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he's he was on our podcast earlier this year, and

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his his perdition for SMU was was seven and five

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at basically at at not at not at by my

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I'm not mistaken, in the football conference right now, or

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eight and one, excuse me, in the Football Conference right now,

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if I'm not mistaken, and they're way above expectations, and

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they're they're probably the likely a likely Canada get, likely

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Canada to get. Really, if you think about it, they're

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SMU SMU schedule, Jeff. They're sitting there, sitting at a

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think they have quite frankly, have a pretty good shot

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to run run the rest of the table. They're playing

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Boston College, they're playing Virginia, and they're playing California. They

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ACC title game, and they're probably gonna play, probably gonna

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play Miami. Is there a chance that that if they lose,

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Speaker 3: Probably?

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Speaker 2: Maybe not, probably not, But I mean this is they're

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they're certainly surpassing every every possible expectation. I think that

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the conference. I don't think anybody disagree. I don't think

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anybody disagrees with that. I think we'd be hard pressed

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to have anybody to have anybody disagree with that, right,

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, still trying to get ethan ethan here on? Uh? Okay, Matthew,

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Speaker 2: Can you hear us, buddy?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 3: We can hear you. Welcome back all right? Three times

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with I'm sorry for the air there, guys. I can

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hear you all on the last previous attempt.

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Speaker 4: But you couldn't hear me, so I apologize.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we're good to go. So Matthew ready,

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I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: All right? Whenever one of us yourself, So.

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Speaker 2: We uh, we have a certainly have a great guest

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with us today. And I ran through the intro welcome

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back here Ethan, what what a night. We didn't plan

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this at all. Buvill had one of the bet one

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of the best wins and perhaps program history. Uh and

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certainly within the history within the ACC. I mean, how

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are you, how are you feeling today? Tell us about

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yourself too? For our listeners who we get new listeners

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in here all the time, tell us tell us about

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yourself here because we're we always get new listeners here.

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But het man, what a time for you to come

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on the podcast. And we sure as he didn't plan

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Speaker 4: I mean I would give you guys credit for planning it.

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months ago to envision this massive upset that occurred. So

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kudos to you guys from doing just that. We we

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and so eloquently that you all encapsulated in the intro

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of your podcast. We've been doing that for thirteen years.

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So appreciate you guys having me on as always, and yeah,

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we're super estatic with the win yesterday. Louisville cracked back

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into the AP top twenty five poll, number twenty five

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this afternoon, and we just run through some of the numbers, guys,

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of how impressive this win was and over the last

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eighty two and four at home. They had not lost

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a night home game in eleven years. And this was

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a curse, of course, in nine tries, Louisvill's first win

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against Clemson since being members of the ACC. There's a

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couple of years where they didn't play, but Louisll got

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its first win. It was it was shocking. I don't believe, honestly, gentlemen,

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that anybody really thought louisll would win this game. Going

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into it, I did not as well. But this this

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season has been crazy, highlighted by how good SMU is doing.

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them against Nevada and I put my foot in my

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mouth again by saying I don't think that they're going

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to compete for the ACC title based on that one

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game against Nevada where they didn't look very good. But silly, mean,

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with these last three games. We have a bye coming

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up this week, but man, I mean, Louisville can run

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the table. You can beat a nationally ranked pit team

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still left on the schedule, and and finally get that

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get that monkey off or back that we that we

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have with our ar rivel up the road five straight losses.

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ethan On. You know, clearly Louisville was the most impressive

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team last week. I think we all agree on that.

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to talk about, certainly give us that. You could also

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for that too that I wrote about, but I'm not

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Speaker 4: Well, it's going to be one of the games from

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last night, and that is SMU. Pitt. I think outside

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of Louisville, certainly SMU with their dominant performance forty eight

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to twenty five, and if you watch the game, it

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wasn't even that close. SMU has been very, very impressive

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this year in the ACC eight and one, five and

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zero in the league. They're only lost to an undefeated

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BYU team by three earlier in the season, and then Pitt,

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think the Panthers are a really good team, but I

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don't think they're you know, Charlotte caliber for the ACC title.

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but certainly with the disappointing team with that being Pitt.

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that's every week. If you have a disappointing team, go

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just weren't competitive. Then you know what I mean at

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thirty one to three at halftime, that the game was

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team in the ACC. Pitt did remain ranked in the

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latest a peop Pull at number twenty three, but that

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Speaker 2: All outstanding answers, Jeff your up friend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to say a little bit about

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that that Clemson Louisville game two because because I was

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there and there was not one bit of fluke today

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loss for Clemson or for the win for Louisville. They

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took Clemson to the woodshed completely, absolutely completely dominated the game.

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in that game. I mean, I was just sitting there

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of the times. It was. So it was such a

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seven to seven during that game, because there were early

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a missed field goal early in the game, then they

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a field goal, were held into a field goal. There

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at the start of the third quarter, when Louisville drove

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down uh that game, there was a third down pass

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that was dropped that resulted in another Louisville field goal.

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probably looking at another touchdown. So I mean, for those

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worst performances I've seen from Clemson in Death Valley in

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probably in more than a decade, and it had everything

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were misreading plays all night long. Every time they showed

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a replay, Louisville was moving with every player was moving

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in a different direction than they were going. So just

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hats off to Louisville Ethan that they were just outstanding

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Saturday night.

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Speaker 4: I like what you said there about the misdirection brom

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was in his bag last night, and something that we

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were kind of clamoring for is you saw before a

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couple of weeks ago. You saw glimpses of the creativity

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from the offensive side that brom can administer. But for

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whatever reason, Louisville's offense was stagnant. They didn't have the

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tempo that they utilized last night in Death Valley. They've

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manner last night against Clemson, speeding the tempo up, not

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allowing the defense to get set and the substitute with regularity,

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and that has helped as well. And it also does

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help when you have one of the best freshmen in

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the nation in Isaac Brown, who is on an absolute

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tear of four games now over one hundred yards. I

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hope that Louisville's NIL package is sound for him, because

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you know there's gonna be a variety of schools coming

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after him. But he is a game breaker. He has

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great vision, great speed, and he also you know, he

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can talk a little trash too, as he did the

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night night go to sleep routine with the Tiger mascot

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last night. I don't know if if he was ready

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for that, but I think that Isaac Brown with that,

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with that forty yard plus touchdown run kind of sealed things.

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that energy, and have that swagger about him, because they

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haven't really had that until maybe that Virginia come and

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then in the fourth quarter, and then getting down twenty

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points a week ago at Chestnut Hill, being down seventeen

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points in the second half against Boston College powering back.

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Something coach Brom said last night in the locker room

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was teams get judged at the end of the season.

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Still keep fighting and there's still a lot left to

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play for. And I think the team really took that

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to heart, and you saw that this was the first

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complete game. Now, it took nine games in the season

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to get that done, but I think Louisville fans are

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very happy that you get that done with the then

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eleventh ranked team nationally getting that first win against Clemson

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and the ACC, We'll take it. It might be nine

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games into the season, but we were very, very impressed

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with the complete game from Louisville last night.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely well definitely well done from Louisville side. All Right, Ethan,

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which ACC football game games are you looking forward to

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the most in week eleven.

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Speaker 4: For me, I think it starts with Clemson. You know,

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Clemson dropped to number nineteen in the polls from eleventh.

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I think they'll probably still be in the top twenty

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in the College Football Playoff Paul when it is released

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on Tuesday. But they go to Blacksburg in Virginia Tech

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for a three thirty game on ESPN and planning in Blacksburg.

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Although Virginia Tech is coming off a very disappointing loss

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on the road to Syracuse, if Clemson's feeling sorry for themselves,

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then the Hokies will give them loss number three. So

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there's no rest for the weary for Clemson. That is

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one of the games that I have circled to watch

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next weekend is Clemson at Virginia Tech. And then also

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too It's going to depend on Haines King's health, but

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Miami traveling to Atlanta to take on Georgia Tech. If

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King is healthy, you know, Miami better be ready to

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play because I think Georgia Tech has the talent to

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make that a ballgame, as you saw with Duke for

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three quarters this past weekend as well. So those are

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the those are the two games for me that I'm

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going to keep a close eye on.

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Speaker 1: All right, ethan, which ACC team could be on upset

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alert in week eleven if they're caught looking ahead to

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a game on their schedule or otherwise just sleep walking

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on the field.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I it's it might be those two

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teams already mentioned, to be honest with you, Clemson and

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Miami both are going on the road, both are playing

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hungry teams that that are that are kind of licking

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their wounds a little bit, that want to kind of

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right the ship.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And of course too with Georgia Tech with Haines King

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being out for the last couple of games that you know,

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that's that's obviously a reason for the for the Yellow

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Jackets saluta step when you have a dynamic playmack like

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that on the sidelines. And then two, I think with

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Clemson coming off this loss, is this going to be

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a loss where it lets all the air out of

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the balloon for Clemson or will they regroup and in

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view this season as well? As you know, they might

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not make it the Charlotte but if they went out

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the rest of the way, a lot can happen if

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you're seven and one in league play. So Clemson for

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me more so than Miami could be on an upset alert.

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I think if if Clemson plays their best and Virginia

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Tech plays their best, and that is a win for Clemson.

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But if Clemson still you know, down the dumps from

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their lackluster of defeat by the hands of the Louisville Cardinals,

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then you know they can find themselves turning that one

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loss into two.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go national. Here, Ethan step out of

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the ACC for a bit. Which national FBS games are

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you looking forward to the most in week eleven? And

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we're wide open this with this question. This can be

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you know, powerful versus you know, non power plat four game,

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a non power forward game. You can even have an

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FCS matchup and then give us a winner of that

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game or two.

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Speaker 4: You're looking at, well, I think when you look at

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when you look at the next week slate, certainly Alabama

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at LSU jumps off the page at you. But for

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me personally, you know what I mean, Like I get

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I'm getting so sick and tired of the SEC love fest,

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and so I'm going to go outside of the SEC. Indiana,

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the Hoosiers nine, and oh welcome the Michigan Wolverines up

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to Bloomington. And you know, this is this has been

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a lopsided series, like most are in the Big Ten

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when it comes to Michigan. But but even though Indiana

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is the favorite in this game, they're favored by fourteen points, gentlemen,

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I mean that is crazy. That's a crazy number when

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you're talking about Indiana and Michigan. Plan But that's a

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game really that I'm that I want to pay attention to.

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IU if they can, they can make it ten to zero.

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And then I think the next week they play Ohio State.

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So for me on the national slate, that is the

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game that sticks out the most for me. Also that

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there's another intriguing matchup Georgia at Ole Miss. I know,

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I just, you know, was complaining about the SEC level,

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but that that game to me is a little bit

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more appealing than LSU Alabama simply because I just I

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just feel like Georgia is overrated at number two, you know,

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And maybe that's just me, and you know, I'm sick

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of the SEC bias. Georgia is no doubt an elite team.

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They're a playoff caliber team, no doubt, but are they

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the second best team? And and is Oldness a playoff

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caliber team? I think right now their body of work

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would say that they're not. But of course, if you

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can beat Georgia on your home field, and then they're

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in the discussion. So for me, those are the two

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games on the national slate. It's of course in the

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big you know, the Big Ten and the SEC arguably

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the Power Too and the Power Four. But those are

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the games for me that are the most intriguing in

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the upcoming week.

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Speaker 1: All right, very good, Ethan Matthew. I'm gonna our next

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question here before I turn it over to Matthew. This

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is a new segment we've started where we're just gonna

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let our guests have an open mic segment, and this

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one's only gonna be reserved for you. What is on

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your mind, you know, whether it be Louisville National, whatever

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you're thinking. Here the floor.

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Speaker 4: Yours, gentlemen. I'm I allowed to talk basketball.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, We're allowed to talk to anything.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, you know, I know this was this

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was a football centered podcast, but the guys, I am

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so excited because Louisville tips off the season tomorrow night.

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Against Morehead State, we are turning the page from the

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disastrous Kenny Payne era and moving in to Pat Kelsey.

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So no more KP. Now we're all about p K.

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And the excitement level is at an all time high.

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H During the exhibition season, Louisville has looked very impressive

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with ball movement at the tempo, the ability to knock

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down three pointers, the ability to get out in transition.

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It's it's such a welcome relief. It's a welcome sight

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to see, uh this program and how the offensive firepower

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that Kelsey has at his disposal. And you know, after

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this game against Moorhead State tomorrow night, Louisville welcomes to

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the Young Center number twelve, Tennessee. So we're going to

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know a lot about this Uleville basketball team just a

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week ind to this season. But I'm excited overall for

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college basketball to tip off. Yeah, we have three or

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four more weeks for college football, and you know, we

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have the college football playoff rankings that've come out on Tuesday.

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But I am super excited for college basketball. And I

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just mentioned it, and I had since this is an

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open mic, what I want to see for the first

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college football playoff rankings is I don't want to see

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a bunch of two loss SEC teams in the top twelve.

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I don't want to see Indiana disrespected either. And if

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I was on this committee, I would be putting SMU

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ahead of Alabama as it stands right now. That's it.

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You know, things can change. If SMU drops a game

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and Alabama beats l s U, then then Alabama would

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be in my in my rankings that nobody cares about anyways,

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but Alabama would then leap frog SMU. But until that happens,

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records have to mean something, guys. And so when you're

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in the SEC, is it the best league in college football?

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Yes it is. But when you when you have some

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undefeated teams or one loss teams from power conferences below

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two lost SEC teams, I don't think that's right. So

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those are the two things that I that's really on

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my mind. Louisville basketball kicking off a new era or

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tipping off a new era, I should say. And then

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what do the first college football playoff rankings look like?

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And then again too, at the end of the day,

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it doesn't matter, it's all it's all fodder for us

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to complain about or to dissect because you know another

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you know, several weeks from now, we're gonna get that,

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we're gonna get the playoff bracket. It's then we're going

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to complain about that even more. But for me on

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this open mic segment, those are the two things that

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are really front and center for me. Can't wait Louisville's

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favored by sixteen and a half against Morehead State. The

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young is gonna be rocking tomorrow night. Can't wait for that.

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Speaker 1: Outstanding.

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Speaker 2: Let me take over here for the last one. So

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I'm gonna use two questions here, okay, Ethan, and they're

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gonna be part of my open microphone. Army has a

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good chance, I think, to get to the college football playoff.

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They closed the season at North Texas at Notre Dame,

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UTSA at home, and Navy at home. Ethan, Are they

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gonna go undefeated? Is Army gonna go undefeated and get

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into the college football Playoff? That's my first question for you, Ethan.

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Here's my second question. I think, and I'm saying it today.

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I think Louisville is going to be Kentucky at home

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on and I believe that schedule since you brought up, Poops,

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I'm bringing it up too. This is the fourteenth of

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December at five point fifteen on ESPN. I believe Louisville

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is gonna win that game over Kentucky. I'm calling it today.

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Tell give me your thoughts on both of those questions.

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Speaker 4: Eh, Mat got me. We got me a roued up

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on that second one. That that is something that's something

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that needs to happen. I talked about how football, on

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the football side of things, with that robbery, that the

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team up the road has has gotten the better of

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Louisville the last five years. In basketball, gentlemen, Louisville has

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not beaten them in Reperna since two thousand and eight.

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That is that is ridiculous. So second question, first, Matthew,

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I hope you're right. I'm still at the I'll believe

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it when I see it phase, but certainly I hope

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that's the case. And then, just like I hope that

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that football the Governor's Cup returns to Louisville on November thirtieth,

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I think that they play them in Lexington as well

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in football. So again, Liuil needs to pull their weight

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in this thing, both football and men's basketball wise, and

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I hope that they do. For Army, I hope that

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they would go undefeated. I'm going to pull for him

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because too, you have to think about this from the

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Notre Dame perspective. Let's say Army goes goes on to

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beat Notre Dame. That would effectively knock the Irish out

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of the college football playoff while give giving Army, in

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my opinion, the upper hand over Boise State for that

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group of five nods. So that game, assuming Army takes

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care of business against North Texas, UTSA and Navy, if

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Army can beat Notre Dame, as far as I'm concerned,

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and went out, they punched their ticket to the playoff,

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whereas Notre Dame would be on the outside looking in.

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and maybe they're going to address it on Tuesday night.

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As far as I know, that Selection Sunday is going

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to be a week before the Army Navy game. That

477
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Army Navy games on December fourteenth, and so to my knowledge,

478
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the bracket will already have been set. So what type

479
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of scenario will that entail? I mean, if Army loses.

480
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Let's say Army is eleven and zero, but they lose.

481
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The Navy is Boise State on deck. I mean, so

482
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what would happen there. That's another whole hurdle to jump over.

483
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And then maybe they like I said, maybe they gets

484
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addressed Tuesday. But that's something else. If that's going to

485
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be the case and Army is undefeated, what happens after

486
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that bracket is set a week before that game?

487
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Speaker 2: I want I'm pulling for Army to win every game.

488
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,799
I'm sorry, I'm being a homer. I want them to

489
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win every single game.

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Speaker 4: Too.

491
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Speaker 2: There's schedule. There's schedule open microphone segment number two for you,

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Ethan the floors here.

493
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Speaker 4: In Il, gentlemen, we're gonna have to get that under control.

494
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:34,000
I want the players to get paid, They've earned it.

495
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But I also think you're gonna have to have some guardrails.

496
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,680
You're gonna have to have some parameters. Just a couple

497
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:45,960
of weeks ago, calling Lacey one of the best wide

498
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,559
receivers in the portal this past season, you know, cast

499
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,599
it his lot with Louiell. Unfortunately for him, he broke

500
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his collarbone late in fall camp. I was hurt the

501
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first several weeks of the season, came back against Notre Dame,

502
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played four games, had a one hundred yard kickoff return

503
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against Miami for a touchdown, and then decided to opt

504
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out and use his red shirt season. Currently, he's fifty

505
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,480
to fifty on returning to Louisville or transferring out somewhere else.

506
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This red shirt rule was specifically meant for freshmen, not

507
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you know, fifth year seniors who want to sit out

508
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whether they're they're banged up or not, and a chance

509
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to get more money. So again, I want players to

510
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get paid. I know Colin Lacy is handsomely compensated, although

511
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that's probably on hold with him sitting out the rest

512
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of the year. But this is like an impossible task

513
00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:51,279
for coaches to really kind of pinpoint and to move forward.

514
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:54,880
You cannot manage a roster if you're having guys saying,

515
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you know, and after four games, I just want to

516
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use a red shirt. I might transfer out, I might not.

517
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,319
You can not and build and sustain a roster that way,

518
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And that's not fair to the coaching staff, it's not

519
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fair to his teammates, and it's not fair for the fans.

520
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,519
So while you want the players to get paid, and

521
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:15,359
while you want them to be able to make money

522
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off their name, image, and likeness. We're gonna have to

523
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We're gonna have to do something differently, and in my opinion,

524
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we can't have graduate transfers opt to sit out after

525
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,960
four games middle of the season when for all intents

526
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:36,279
and purposes, you're able to play.

527
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: Excellent. Take Jeff, you're a friend.

528
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna echo a couple of things that even

529
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said for my open mic. November starts. To me, it's

530
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my favorite time of the year when we've got college

531
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football and college basketball going on at the same time.

532
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And already mentioned really intriguing Tennessee Louisville game Friday night.

533
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,680
You got Kansas in North Carolina playing if I remember right,

534
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:14,000
Michigan Wake Forest are playing this week, all in the

535
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:17,559
first week. And I know we're all like big basketball fans,

536
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:20,839
so we're not waiting until February fifteenth to start watching

537
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and paying attention. We enjoy these November December games a

538
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,480
lot too. And then you got the college football playoff

539
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:34,240
rankings coming out. I'm so intrigued to see. I really

540
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,160
want to see where they ranked SMU. You know, I

541
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think Miami is pretty well established I'd be shocked if

542
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:48,279
they're outside the top five. You know, best offense, probably

543
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:53,000
the best quarterback in alive college football. The defense still

544
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,519
some question marks, but I think you'll definitely see Miami

545
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in the top five. But I want to see where

546
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they put s you. As Ethan said, they only have

547
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:06,200
a three point loss to the Big twelves leading team

548
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:10,280
right now, Big BYU. That was a game that the

549
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:16,280
that they were still some quarterback transition between Preston Stone

550
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,599
and Kevin Jennings. I was jennings first game. I think

551
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SMU is a completely different team since that time. You know,

552
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,519
not to take anything away, you know, a loss is

553
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:30,840
a loss, and BYU has that win over SMU. I mean,

554
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,840
we're not doing sec math here where we say teams,

555
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,079
you know, games at the beginning of the year don't matter,

556
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,360
and they certainly do. But since that time, you know,

557
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,079
especially what SMU did to a pretty darn good pit

558
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,519
team on Saturday night. If they can, if they can

559
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:52,119
get in that first college football ranking and they're in

560
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:56,360
there around you know, fourteen, fifteen sixteen, I mean, they've

561
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920
got a great chance to run that table and to

562
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get to the ACC title game, you know, around eight

563
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,280
to nine or ten. Uh, I think because because they're

564
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,599
they're finishing kick is is it not that you know,

565
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,719
Formidable Pit was the game for them to focus. I mean,

566
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,679
of course they got to finish and take care of business.

567
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But you could very well have a top ten matchup

568
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in the s C I mean, the ACC title game

569
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if Miami can also you know, finish out, which I

570
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,079
think I think they will. You know, Georgia Tech with

571
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,920
a healthy hands King will you know, be capable of

572
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putting up points on them. I just don't think even

573
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with an improved Georgia Tech defense, I don't think there's

574
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a defense in the ACC that can really slow down Miami.

575
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:46,920
They got to go and play Syracuse, we know, you know,

576
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,760
at times Kyle mccourtz looked like an All American but

577
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but same thing there. I don't see how they're going

578
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,119
to end up stopping Miami. So you could very well

579
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be looking at a top ten matchup in the ACC

580
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:05,840
title game. And I would like to see SMU be

581
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ranked you know, high enough given to respect, you know,

582
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just because they're not like a traditional brand. And we've

583
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seen this, you know here all back and forth, you know,

584
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two three loss SEC teams. I mean, there was already

585
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,679
I heard this weekend. You know, great win for South Carolina,

586
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,760
but they were talking about them running the table getting

587
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,239
into the playoffs, which is you know, you know, come on,

588
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,039
this is kind of absurd, you know, to be honest,

589
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,800
you know, unless just complete chaos happens around the country.

590
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,639
I mean, great win over Texas A and M. But

591
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you know, we're really think of the SEC teams They've

592
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:42,599
got to jump over that they've already lost to, They've

593
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:45,519
already lost to Ole Miss, you know, Alabama, LSU for

594
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:47,880
them to get into the playoffs. But you know, let

595
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:51,480
let's not get crazy. Let's not get crazy here. So

596
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:55,159
it's going to be really interesting to see those college

597
00:36:55,159 --> 00:37:00,400
football playoff rankings, college basketball starting up. Yeah, it's it's

598
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the best time of the year. I can't wait to

599
00:37:02,199 --> 00:37:04,960
see how how the rest of it finishes out.

600
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I mean, you made a good point

601
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about the about SMU and and where do they where

602
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,840
do they start with the rankings? And then my point

603
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,760
earlier about the SEC bias stuff. I mean, South Carolina

604
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,360
very well should be a top twenty five team, but

605
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,079
for them to even be mentioned in the playoffs it's like,

606
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:36,320
come on, man, like, like stop it. No nine, No three,

607
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:40,159
lost team right now needs to be in the playoff

608
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,800
unless a bunch of other teams you know, fall off

609
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,760
the map in the last last few weeks here. So

610
00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:51,880
uh yeah, there's I want to see. And then how

611
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,000
overall is the ACC respected right right now, right now

612
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:58,039
and the A people the league's got five ranked teams?

613
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,519
Do we see five ranked teams in Tuesday's college football

614
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:04,320
playoff poll? I think that's a good question because I

615
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,800
don't think that's a for sure thing either.

616
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. You know, one thing I

617
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,960
wish they would do and I don't it'd be great

618
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,440
to see it is when they put out the top

619
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,800
twenty five, you know, to even in no particular order,

620
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:22,400
if they would list like who are the next five out?

621
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,440
You know, to see if Louisville, if they don't make

622
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,920
the top twenty five, are they just outside those rankings

623
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,880
right now? I think the AP and coach's polar are

624
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:39,039
reasonably fair to the to the ACC at the moment.

625
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:44,559
You know, with with Miami right there around in four

626
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:49,679
and five range, SMU took a nice jump up. You

627
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,400
know this week you kept Clemson in the poll with

628
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,119
their two losses twenty if maybe about right. And then

629
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,800
you've kept Pittsburgh kind of rewarding them for their undefeated

630
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,440
start not dropping them out. And then you you have

631
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Louisville in the poll, you know, showing there are only

632
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,840
three losses have all been to ranked teams, and in

633
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,480
the other pole there just out by one, which you

634
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,239
know it's only going to take a loss by a

635
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,119
couple of teams. And then Louisville's in both poles. So

636
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,519
this is one of those times I'm actually not too

637
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,920
upset with the current rankings. But let's see how the

638
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,039
college football playoff rankings do, because that's the one that's

639
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:29,119
gonna count.

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00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you there, Ethan.

641
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for spending your Sunday evening with us

642
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,960
on the All Sports Discussion ACC podcast. We love Devin

643
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,719
you come on the show. Love to have you come

644
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,360
on during college hoops season. Thanks again for spending your

645
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,360
Sunday night with us, and.

646
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: Man, thanks guys for having me as always, I always

647
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:55,800
enjoy it, and here's to a very entertaining college basketball.

648
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Speaker 2: Have a great week, guys, take care

649
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 4: You too.

