Speaker 1: Recently, I saw this came out maybe a month ago,
Speaker 1: but recently I saw that Alex Jones went on Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson and he was on there talking to him.
Speaker 2: They had a pretty good episode.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I mean, I don't really know
Speaker 1: what to think about Alex Jones. I think we'll get
Speaker 1: into some weirdness in a minute.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't know, dude, Like, what do you
Speaker 2: think about him? Do you think he's got some like
Speaker 2: you think he's just nuts or do you think what?
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I think he gets a little
Speaker 3: I think he just sounds crazy. But I think it's
Speaker 3: the delivery. He just is super aggressive with it, so
Speaker 3: it makes.
Speaker 2: Him sound insane, right right, If it's the voice, if
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 3: Like talking calm, cool, collected, I feel like people would
Speaker 3: believe him more, maybe not be like this dude's insane.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, I think it's totally the delivery.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Guess he has cooled out a little bit, though, hasn't
Speaker 3: he He's cooled off.
Speaker 2: A little bit. Actually was super chilling this recent one.
Speaker 1: He even mentioned how he's trying not to be all
Speaker 1: over the place, and I thought he was more put
Speaker 1: together in this recent whole kind of segment. But what
Speaker 1: was crazy, what I couldn't get past, is kind of
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at. Tucker Carlson says, you predicted nine
Speaker 1: to eleven, and you're the only one to do that.
Speaker 1: And anybody that's listened to this so far knows that
Speaker 1: I said that about Bill Cooper, and so of course
Speaker 1: right away, I'm like, oh, wait, who said it first?
Speaker 1: Because I'm almost positive that Bill Cooper did. And I
Speaker 1: know that you know, we'll get into it. But I mean,
Speaker 1: Bill Cooper did not necessarily like Alex Jones at all,
Speaker 1: and they were both like conspiracy radio guys. They had
Speaker 1: beef heavy, and I mean, I don't know because Bill
Speaker 1: Cooper he was very analytical, objective, kind of like we
Speaker 1: try to be like. He really kind of brought the
Speaker 1: vibe we tried to bring, but way better, way way better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't know who knows, but I know that
Speaker 1: Alex Jones made a broadcast he did say on July
Speaker 1: twenty fifth, two thousand and one, did he warned that
Speaker 1: there'd be a major terrorist attack that they would blame
Speaker 1: Osaman bid Laden. And I'm telling you, Osama bin Laden
Speaker 1: is the boogeyman they need in this Orwellian phony system.
Speaker 1: So you know, back then he was pushing this, you know, fear,
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, they're trying to get us, they're
Speaker 1: trying to whatever, right, So that's kind of Bill Cooper's
Speaker 1: point was that that, you know, he pushed a lot
Speaker 1: of fear.
Speaker 2: But we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: So, I mean he became a prominent like nine to
Speaker 1: eleven guy afterwards.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, who knows.
Speaker 1: But on June twenty eighth, a month before, Bill Cooper said,
Speaker 1: don't you believe it, They're gonna they're gonna blame something
Speaker 1: on Osaman bid Laden and don't you believe it? Essentially,
Speaker 1: and he said that month before, and then in November
Speaker 1: of that same after nine to eleven he gets killed
Speaker 1: by the cops at his house. Alex Jones gets to
Speaker 1: live on and kind of keep doing his thing, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, what's the beef that they had?
Speaker 2: Like what did they say?
Speaker 1: Because I kind of look at it this way, Bill
Speaker 1: Cooper got too close to the sun.
Speaker 2: He was way too right, way too often. He was
Speaker 2: able to call it before it happened.
Speaker 1: If you notice, almost no conspiracy people really even talk
Speaker 1: about Bill Cooper anymore that I've noticed, and I really
Speaker 1: just feel like if it throws a red flag up,
Speaker 1: not to say that everybody's pony.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying that, but it's just weird
Speaker 2: to me that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had way too much going on that
Speaker 1: we we literally use now as our study, So I
Speaker 1: don't understand why we don't talk about that, And it's
Speaker 1: just weird. Everybody's got like amnesia. It feels like when
Speaker 1: it comes to Bill Cooper.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's wild that they're trying to forget
Speaker 3: about the guy.
Speaker 1: Man, I know, because it's like I'll hear, yeah, people
Speaker 1: will bring him up, but it's just like the old
Speaker 1: Pelle horse and then that's it. But if you listen
Speaker 1: to all of his broadcasts, like I sat there and
Speaker 1: listened to the whole Mystery Babylon Years did he Have,
Speaker 1: which was like thirty episodes. They were each like an hour,
Speaker 1: and it went deep into like ancient secret societies, cults,
Speaker 1: like their symbolism, what they believe.
Speaker 2: And then now you see what he taught was in
Speaker 2: a nutshell.
Speaker 1: It's very hard, a nutshell thirty four episodes, but what
Speaker 1: he taught was at the end of the day, there's
Speaker 1: all these different what we call religions and philosophies, but
Speaker 1: within them, like I said before, is that Luciferian philosophy
Speaker 1: and that principle hidden in there. And he kind of
Speaker 1: got down to it where he was like you could
Speaker 1: literally just point it out, like he got to the
Speaker 1: skeleton of it, you know what I mean, where you
Speaker 1: can really kind of see the bare bones of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. So then you can see it
Speaker 1: within all these different systems, which is why I can
Speaker 1: look at Buddhism now, which I used to love, and
Speaker 1: see how it really detaches you from your soul and
Speaker 1: your source more than it actually brings you to it.
Speaker 1: And so even though it's a beautiful philosophy, I do
Speaker 1: love a lot of it, the basic principle of freeing
Speaker 1: yourself of all attachments kind of throws me through loop
Speaker 1: where I'm like, yep, there it is, and then there's more.
Speaker 2: But whatever. So he did a great job at the
Speaker 2: Mystery Babylon. We're gonna get into some of that too.
Speaker 1: I love that, you know, I think that's worth knowing,
Speaker 1: especially whenever you think you know Freemason's Rosicrucians. They definitely
Speaker 1: kind of have a hand in the world today, right,
Speaker 1: a pretty large one, and so what do they kind
Speaker 1: of think, you know, and that's kind of what they're into.
Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, he pretty much called Alex Jones a liar,
Speaker 1: and he's a sensationalist and he does not tell the truth.
Speaker 1: Cooper was particularly critical of Jones's coverage of the events
Speaker 1: of the Y two K, where he felt Jones incided
Speaker 1: unnecessary panic, and he accused Jones of spreading unverified information.
Speaker 1: Because Bill Cooper's biggest thing was read everything, listen to everything,
Speaker 1: believe nothing that you haven't verified yourself. You don't just
Speaker 1: go around spew and bullshit that you read, and so
Speaker 1: you actually know it's like from the source, right, And
Speaker 1: that's kind of you know, I to go with that.
Speaker 2: Here, we do our best.
Speaker 1: But that is hard, especially now with the digital age,
Speaker 1: because you can't really get to the source of a
Speaker 1: lot of things. But does that mean you discredit it
Speaker 1: if it aligns with a lot of other things, you
Speaker 1: can you know, prove, So that's a tricky one. He
Speaker 1: didn't have to deal with that as much then