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<v Speaker 1>Recently, I saw this came out maybe a month ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but recently I saw that Alex Jones went on Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>Carlson and he was on there talking to him.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a pretty good episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, I mean, I don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>what to think about Alex Jones. I think we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into some weirdness in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, I don't know, dude, Like, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about him? Do you think he's got some like

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<v Speaker 2>you think he's just nuts or do you think what?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man, I think he gets a little

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<v Speaker 3>I think he just sounds crazy. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>the delivery. He just is super aggressive with it, so

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<v Speaker 3>it makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Him sound insane, right right, If it's the voice, if

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<v Speaker 2>he was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like talking calm, cool, collected, I feel like people would

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<v Speaker 3>believe him more, maybe not be like this dude's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, yeah, I think it's totally the delivery.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess he has cooled out a little bit, though, hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>he He's cooled off.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit. Actually was super chilling this recent one.

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<v Speaker 1>He even mentioned how he's trying not to be all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place, and I thought he was more put

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<v Speaker 1>together in this recent whole kind of segment. But what

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy, what I couldn't get past, is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm getting at. Tucker Carlson says, you predicted nine

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven, and you're the only one to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And anybody that's listened to this so far knows that

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<v Speaker 1>I said that about Bill Cooper, and so of course

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<v Speaker 1>right away, I'm like, oh, wait, who said it first?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm almost positive that Bill Cooper did. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you know, we'll get into it. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cooper did not necessarily like Alex Jones at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were both like conspiracy radio guys. They had

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<v Speaker 1>beef heavy, and I mean, I don't know because Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper he was very analytical, objective, kind of like we

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<v Speaker 1>try to be like. He really kind of brought the

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<v Speaker 1>vibe we tried to bring, but way better, way way better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know who knows, but I know that

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones made a broadcast he did say on July

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth, two thousand and one, did he warned that

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<v Speaker 1>there'd be a major terrorist attack that they would blame

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<v Speaker 1>Osaman bid Laden. And I'm telling you, Osama bin Laden

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<v Speaker 1>is the boogeyman they need in this Orwellian phony system.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, back then he was pushing this, you know, fear,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, hey, they're trying to get us, they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to whatever, right, So that's kind of Bill Cooper's

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<v Speaker 1>point was that that, you know, he pushed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fear.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean he became a prominent like nine to

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<v Speaker 1>eleven guy afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>But on June twenty eighth, a month before, Bill Cooper said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you believe it, They're gonna they're gonna blame something

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<v Speaker 1>on Osaman bid Laden and don't you believe it? Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said that month before, and then in November

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<v Speaker 1>of that same after nine to eleven he gets killed

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<v Speaker 1>by the cops at his house. Alex Jones gets to

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<v Speaker 1>live on and kind of keep doing his thing, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, well, what's the beef that they had?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what did they say?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I kind of look at it this way, Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper got too close to the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>He was way too right, way too often. He was

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<v Speaker 2>able to call it before it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>If you notice, almost no conspiracy people really even talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Bill Cooper anymore that I've noticed, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like if it throws a red flag up,

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<v Speaker 1>not to say that everybody's pony.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not saying that, but it's just weird

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<v Speaker 2>to me that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he had way too much going on that

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<v Speaker 1>we we literally use now as our study, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand why we don't talk about that, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just weird. Everybody's got like amnesia. It feels like when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Bill Cooper.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's wild that they're trying to forget

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<v Speaker 3>about the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I know, because it's like I'll hear, yeah, people

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<v Speaker 1>will bring him up, but it's just like the old

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<v Speaker 1>Pelle horse and then that's it. But if you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to all of his broadcasts, like I sat there and

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<v Speaker 1>listened to the whole Mystery Babylon Years did he Have,

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<v Speaker 1>which was like thirty episodes. They were each like an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and it went deep into like ancient secret societies, cults,

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<v Speaker 1>like their symbolism, what they believe.

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<v Speaker 2>And then now you see what he taught was in

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<v Speaker 2>a nutshell.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very hard, a nutshell thirty four episodes, but what

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<v Speaker 1>he taught was at the end of the day, there's

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<v Speaker 1>all these different what we call religions and philosophies, but

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<v Speaker 1>within them, like I said before, is that Luciferian philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>and that principle hidden in there. And he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got down to it where he was like you could

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<v Speaker 1>literally just point it out, like he got to the

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<v Speaker 1>skeleton of it, you know what I mean, where you

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<v Speaker 1>can really kind of see the bare bones of like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. So then you can see it

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<v Speaker 1>within all these different systems, which is why I can

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<v Speaker 1>look at Buddhism now, which I used to love, and

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<v Speaker 1>see how it really detaches you from your soul and

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<v Speaker 1>your source more than it actually brings you to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so even though it's a beautiful philosophy, I do

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<v Speaker 1>love a lot of it, the basic principle of freeing

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<v Speaker 1>yourself of all attachments kind of throws me through loop

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, yep, there it is, and then there's more.

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever. So he did a great job at the

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<v Speaker 2>Mystery Babylon. We're gonna get into some of that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, you know, I think that's worth knowing,

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<v Speaker 1>especially whenever you think you know Freemason's Rosicrucians. They definitely

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have a hand in the world today, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty large one, and so what do they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of think, you know, and that's kind of what they're into.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, dude, he pretty much called Alex Jones a liar,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a sensationalist and he does not tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper was particularly critical of Jones's coverage of the events

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<v Speaker 1>of the Y two K, where he felt Jones incided

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<v Speaker 1>unnecessary panic, and he accused Jones of spreading unverified information.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Bill Cooper's biggest thing was read everything, listen to everything,

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<v Speaker 1>believe nothing that you haven't verified yourself. You don't just

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<v Speaker 1>go around spew and bullshit that you read, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you actually know it's like from the source, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of you know, I to go with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, we do our best.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is hard, especially now with the digital age,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't really get to the source of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things. But does that mean you discredit it

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<v Speaker 1>if it aligns with a lot of other things, you

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<v Speaker 1>can you know, prove, So that's a tricky one. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to deal with that as much then