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Speaker 1: This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and
Speaker 1: Jacob Zalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to my End the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jacin's awe.
Speaker 3: Now we have Henry with breaking news.
Speaker 1: This is I on the Ball breaking news on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 4: ESPN reporter Adrian Wojanowski has retired from ESPN to become
Speaker 4: the general manager of Saint Bonaventure's men's basketball program.
Speaker 5: What do you make of that? I mean, was he is?
Speaker 5: I saw that.
Speaker 6: I saw his his tweet, his tweet and his message
Speaker 6: and YadA YadA. But he's going to keep working. And
Speaker 6: that's not a job that you're gonna get a lot
Speaker 6: of time back. I mean, your general manager of a
Speaker 6: major basketball program, say about adventures?
Speaker 5: What do you mean keep working? He's going to be
Speaker 5: the general manager? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, not quick.
Speaker 6: He's not gonna stop working. Yeah he's only yeah. So
Speaker 6: was he about to get forced out?
Speaker 5: Who knows?
Speaker 3: But he's very good at what he does, right however
Speaker 3: he does it, he's very good. Maybe he's just tired
Speaker 3: of it because it's probably the only thing when I
Speaker 3: saw it is this team must be pretty good, because
Speaker 3: you're as good as your last haircut. And if you
Speaker 3: go ten and twenty, you're gone, right, You're gone from
Speaker 3: the program. No, you're gone. The coach is gone, and
Speaker 3: everybody are you so? And so are you so? I
Speaker 3: guess you felt pretty comfortable and doing this. But it's
Speaker 3: something that we talked about a month ago, the GM
Speaker 3: situation where the coaches just want to coach, don't bother me. Oh,
Speaker 3: you had all the other.
Speaker 5: Stuff, and I get that.
Speaker 6: You know, you leave ESPN and with the job that
Speaker 6: he had, he was probably traveling a lot and that
Speaker 6: kind of stuff and maybe you know, that's closer to
Speaker 6: home and he and you know, he gets to spend
Speaker 6: more time at home. But just the question of you know,
Speaker 6: is there something going on at ESPN and was he
Speaker 6: about to get get canned over there's always something going on,
Speaker 6: because we've been surprised about some people that they've let go. Sure, right, like,
Speaker 6: you know what what should surpribe me, Sam Ponder?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Right, Well, she was making a lot of money apparently,
Speaker 5: but you know.
Speaker 6: She made her way up to ESPN Ladder and all
Speaker 6: of a sudden before the season is out of here,
Speaker 6: she was a great hostess, our host.
Speaker 3: I should say, they have Greenie and yeah, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: Greenie just doesn't.
Speaker 5: Have it for me. Yeah, well because you kind of
Speaker 5: thought she was by cubes.
Speaker 6: Well no, but see, you know what, it's funny.
Speaker 5: Well there's that. Okay, there's that.
Speaker 6: But but you know, I I lost my affinity, not affinity.
Speaker 6: I stopped liking Greenee when he when he did Mike Golie,
Speaker 6: Yeah right, went behind his back kind of like I
Speaker 6: did with you and left him and you know, cut
Speaker 6: him loose and green Uh so, I really I don't
Speaker 6: like he was such a down to He was like
Speaker 6: one of us, just a guy talking sports, and all
Speaker 6: of a sudden he elevated himself to this level where
Speaker 6: he's like now he's a studio host, and he's different,
Speaker 6: you know, wearing the sports coats and and and you know,
Speaker 6: and just I don't like his persona anymore.
Speaker 5: I don't like his delivery anymore.
Speaker 6: He's trying to be too polished, when before that he
Speaker 6: was just one of the guys. Yeah, well, well that happens.
Speaker 6: So that's part of why I don't you know, So
Speaker 6: let me say this.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a chance because he's fifty five, maybe he
Speaker 3: has kids coming up and more time. You You left
Speaker 3: your thing in late eighties or nineties to be more
Speaker 3: of a single her husband, but you're not.
Speaker 6: I mean I was. I was single when I left.
Speaker 6: But you saw the potential. Right, You're gonna be on
Speaker 6: the road a lot.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: Your son has had to deal with it. You did
Speaker 5: it too.
Speaker 3: You know, you got to get out of the business
Speaker 3: because you want to spend time with the kids. Justin
Speaker 3: there's another example. You get out because you want to
Speaker 3: spend time with the kids. Uh, I get it, I
Speaker 3: get it. I'm I'm interested to see and money isn't everything.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure he's getting paid pretty well at ESPN.
Speaker 3: I couldn't be making the same amount.
Speaker 6: No, but maybe he's made so much at ESPN that
Speaker 6: he doesn't need to make a whole time at st BNAB.
Speaker 3: There's there's and you get to go and do what
Speaker 3: you really love to do. Not that he didn't love
Speaker 3: to do this. Yeah, I don't know. I'm still trying
Speaker 3: to find a sponsor, not just another job. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: how's have you started?
Speaker 2: Kind of right.
Speaker 3: Yea good no, no, no, no, no, I don't worry about
Speaker 3: the work. How's it going back to?
Speaker 5: Oh that part? It's it's it's funny.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: It's like getting up this morning and like I gotta
Speaker 6: go to work, and I got up, take a shower,
Speaker 6: put on some clothes. I mean, I got clothes on.
Speaker 6: I got like a regular clothes on. It's different, you know.
Speaker 6: I my my my sister comes over. There's a day
Speaker 6: that my grandson comes over the house and we watch him,
Speaker 6: but my sister comes over and helps with that. And
Speaker 6: the other day she my wife was gone. My sister
Speaker 6: was there and she was watching watching the kid, and
Speaker 6: she I come out of the room and I got
Speaker 6: close to go where are you going? I said, I
Speaker 6: know this sounds funny, but I got to go to work,
Speaker 6: and I was going to work, and it did sound funny.
Speaker 5: How many years twenty years since I've been in an
Speaker 5: office sucks to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I twent in in September, actually September of two thousand
Speaker 6: and four. I left my job at the City of Tucson.
Speaker 5: Nice to be married to a sugar Bola.
Speaker 6: It's you know what's Steve, It's all different too, being
Speaker 6: in an office.
Speaker 5: It's all different. It's funny.
Speaker 3: I got to fund Sugar Bowl. You know what, both
Speaker 3: of us, you'd be my wing men.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 6: You've blown all that with your talk about I don't
Speaker 6: wives and stuff.
Speaker 5: This needs for a weekend. These guys will help me.
Speaker 5: I don't know, Henry, do you know what? Don't do it?
Speaker 5: Henry Matthew.
Speaker 6: Matthews, I got all right.
Speaker 5: We kicked that one around a little bit.
Speaker 4: Eli Manning headline, is the first time Hall of Fame
Speaker 4: nominees for the twenty twenty five Class sixteen. Other first
Speaker 4: time Hall of Famers on the list include Leeke, Luke, Keighley,
Speaker 4: Torell Suggs, and Adam Vinitary.
Speaker 5: Who's the first dude, Eli man No? No, no, the
Speaker 5: second dude then Luke? You know him?
Speaker 7: You linebacker from the Panthers.
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: Sorry, is Eli Manning the Hall of Famer? I guess
Speaker 6: a good question. I was thinking that as as you were,
Speaker 6: as you were hearing.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know, because I didn't I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's got the two Super Bowl sure right,
Speaker 6: there's that, yeah, and there's there's a lot of a
Speaker 6: lot of Hall of Famers who don't have that many
Speaker 6: super Bowls? But was he a great quarterback or was
Speaker 6: he a great quarterback for two seasons during the playoffs?
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know. I couldn't tell you. I
Speaker 3: don't know if he that's a tough.
Speaker 5: Does the or does the manny name get him in?
Speaker 5: Probably does? Probably does? And the two super bowls? Would
Speaker 5: you vote for him? Who? Is there a criteria? Could
Speaker 5: alkipor get it? I think you know all the vote
Speaker 5: for so many?
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I think there's a limited amount.
Speaker 5: I don't know because I don't know the second guy.
Speaker 5: I have no idea.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've heard of the name, but I don't know.
Speaker 6: I couldn't have told you. I couldn't have told you
Speaker 6: his position or his team.
Speaker 5: Matthew, now that he said, so who else? Who else? Again?
Speaker 7: Sugs?
Speaker 5: And you can't get in because it is you got
Speaker 5: And I think both of those dudes it sucks too.
Speaker 5: I think sugs too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I only know I don't know the second,
Speaker 3: but the second dude, they probably all get in if
Speaker 3: they all could get in. So no, if all four
Speaker 3: get the boats, unless you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If you get everybody. I'm like, God broke. Everybody gets it.
Speaker 3: You get a Hall of Fame bus? Do you get
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame bus?
Speaker 2: You got it? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. Interesting, I don't know if Eli
Speaker 6: Manning is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5: I really don't. Matthew, what do you think? You think?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 5: I think he is, all right, Henry.
Speaker 4: No, because bet your giant. He will get in because
Speaker 4: his last name is Manning. But he shouldn't get in,
Speaker 4: all right, because he shouldn't get in because he doesn't
Speaker 4: have good enough numbers. He never was a top five quarterback.
Speaker 5: Right that.
Speaker 6: That's yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. He was never
Speaker 6: a great quarterback, but he was a great quarterback. Two
Speaker 6: sion in the playoffs where you won a super Bowl,
Speaker 6: we got a call in is it a man? You
Speaker 6: gotta call?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: That was a fast and it was a hard. No,
Speaker 6: it was a hard He's a New York Giant man,
Speaker 6: all right.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: The Panthers are not considering trading Bryce Young despite benching
Speaker 4: him for Andy Dalton.
Speaker 5: They are not.
Speaker 7: They are not.
Speaker 5: They're not. They can't do that. Kive me that.
Speaker 6: That's that's making that's admitting that you made a horrible mistake,
Speaker 6: no Number one.
Speaker 5: And guess what.
Speaker 3: He needs time, no question, no question, And he might
Speaker 3: take some good good well not take some good advice,
Speaker 3: but it might do the Pinnix route. Who thought he
Speaker 3: was going to be a stud coming in and sit back,
Speaker 3: watched how people do it. He's only twenty four, twenty
Speaker 3: five whatever it is, and six twenty three.
Speaker 6: So yeah, and he's like, he's like five ten, one
Speaker 6: hundred and sixty pounds. I mean, who thought he was
Speaker 6: going to be a great NFL quarterbacks?
Speaker 5: What twenty two twenty one, two years removed from you? Guys?
Speaker 7: Give him a break?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I mean, look in the end, you gotta
Speaker 6: win games, and you got to put the guy in
Speaker 6: that's going to help you win games.
Speaker 5: But you don't give up on him.
Speaker 3: That and you and maybe you're the problem because you
Speaker 3: started him right away. Look at Penix. Penix is going
Speaker 3: to do a great job when he gets his time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: sit and wait, there's no rush. You'll be fine. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it happens to all these guys. You know, Mayfield, he
Speaker 3: talks about this earlier. He was thrown to the wolves
Speaker 3: right away, struggled. Yeah, he's doing pretty well, Tampa been
Speaker 3: doing pretty well a few years later. I think the
Speaker 3: only really bad one we talked about this in the car,
Speaker 3: right was Winston uh.
Speaker 7: Frus, that's who that guy.
Speaker 5: That guy was a po from the get and the
Speaker 5: and money guy, money guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he wasn't even a first overall. He was
Speaker 4: a just first round pick. Yeah, not first overall.
Speaker 5: It takes time. I mean, there's too much rush for
Speaker 5: everybody to doel right away.
Speaker 6: They want it now, they want it, and and you
Speaker 6: know they may may.
Speaker 2: They just.
Speaker 6: Don't over estimated him, right, And who knows who would
Speaker 6: have taken him and how far down he would have
Speaker 6: dropped if they don't taken when they were well.
Speaker 5: And here's another issue.
Speaker 3: The kid at Texas Shroud he does really well, and
Speaker 3: you say, well, what happens here?
Speaker 6: We could happen. So everyone's different, right, everyone's different again?
Speaker 6: Who thought brock Perty was going to be any good?
Speaker 5: Right? Right? Right?
Speaker 6: You just don't know until these guys get into the
Speaker 6: league and start doing it, mister irrelevant, all right.
Speaker 4: The WNBA has added it's fifteen franchise, a team that
Speaker 4: will begin play in Portland in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that now, they had a team before.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they had a team the early two thousands and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and but you know what, did it just go
Speaker 5: away or did they move?
Speaker 7: I think they relocated.
Speaker 6: But you know, with with the life that's come to
Speaker 6: the w n b A, you know, now they're saying
Speaker 6: that they want to get a team back in Houston
Speaker 6: because they had a team there and not saying, Okay,
Speaker 6: Houston's up next and.
Speaker 5: You know, coming bring them back. I'm not really sure.
Speaker 5: I'm not really sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny, guys, these guys were you were not
Speaker 3: here Monday, but they were talking up Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, he's a big Caitlin fan.
Speaker 6: There's she you know what, she's easy to be a
Speaker 6: fan of. Yah, right, she really is, you know, because
Speaker 6: there's one thing when you get a lot of hype
Speaker 6: and you don't deserve the hype. But when you're good
Speaker 6: and and and you you, you you.
Speaker 5: Kind of ride that.
Speaker 6: You know, you're you're you you you you accepted you,
Speaker 6: you let it become a part of it, and then
Speaker 6: you do things with it.
Speaker 5: That's what you That's what you love to see there.
Speaker 6: She's making so many right moves, you know, and it's
Speaker 6: having a huge effect on not just her team, but
Speaker 6: the league and the sport.
Speaker 5: So good for her, all.
Speaker 4: Right, The Orioles designated reliever Craig Kimbrel for assignment after
Speaker 4: posting a five three three ERA this season.
Speaker 5: All have the time to be doing that right a
Speaker 5: seasons almost. This is an inside joke. I hate Craig
Speaker 5: Karrent Kimbrel.
Speaker 6: I say that every time every time one him, because
Speaker 6: he was a Dodger and for I think a year
Speaker 6: or two, and he was awful. He was a closer
Speaker 6: and I could have been a better closer and I
Speaker 6: can't even throw anymore. And the inside joke is that
Speaker 6: myself and three other guys we do that immaculate grid.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've seen that.
Speaker 6: And every time one of them puts Craig Kimbrel in
Speaker 6: their grid, I text back to them, I hate Craig Kimbrel.
Speaker 5: I don't really hate him.
Speaker 6: I just I just didn't like him as a Dodger
Speaker 6: and I thought he was terrible. And I'm not sad
Speaker 6: to see him go to the miners, even though I
Speaker 6: shouldn't wish those things. That's not that's not a good
Speaker 6: Christian thing to do. But nobody's everys.
Speaker 3: I was waiting for that perspective. No one's ever said that,
Speaker 3: Ja again, are you a good guy?
Speaker 5: I'm not even a good Catholic, Steve. I'm many years ago.
Speaker 5: My ticket has been punched, you said, yeah, long time,
Speaker 5: a long time ago, long time ago.
Speaker 4: Packers quarterback Jordan Love returned to practice today, and he
Speaker 4: is questionable for a Sunday's game versus the Titans.
Speaker 3: Another example of a guy who had to sit and
Speaker 3: wait and sit and wait, and by this time we
Speaker 3: still don't know how good he is. But he had
Speaker 3: some time to ye too by this time, and he
Speaker 3: had a guy who didn't want to teach him, but.
Speaker 5: That that was funny. That was funny.
Speaker 6: But uh, you know he's still on my fantasy football team.
Speaker 5: Who Jordan Love? So we'll see.
Speaker 6: I've got Jordan Love, I got Pooka Nakua who's on
Speaker 6: I R. I've got t Higgins who hasn't played a
Speaker 6: game yet.
Speaker 5: Who else? I've got like four injured, super injured guys.
Speaker 3: You haven't been here long enough to know that anybody
Speaker 3: he picks his got.
Speaker 6: I've got Saquon Bartley, who dropped that pass.
Speaker 5: But I did have I do have Alvin Kamara, who.
Speaker 6: Just had a massive, four touchdown, massive game on Sunday,
Speaker 6: so he's been a stud for me.
Speaker 5: There's that squirrel, the blind squirrel. All right, that's all
Speaker 5: I got. That's it.
Speaker 6: Okay, that was good. Yeah, we're good. Still watching the
Speaker 6: Dodger game. Will Will Smith went yard. So it's one
Speaker 6: zip the beating the the Marlins in the bottom.
Speaker 5: Of the second. You know, I what's his name?
Speaker 6: The guy Bobby Miller threw again yesterday, Steve, And I
Speaker 6: don't know why I didn't take the over again or
Speaker 6: twenty runs scored in that game yesterday.
Speaker 3: Wow, Well the Brewers close the Central did the right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the third Central in four years. Yeah right, yep,
Speaker 3: good for them. All right, man, let's take our break
Speaker 3: word to come back.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to my I on the Ball here
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jacin Sauce.
Speaker 3: Now on the phone, we have Kyle fog Farmer U
Speaker 3: of A who Star Kyle.
Speaker 5: How are you good?
Speaker 2: How you guys doing?
Speaker 5: We're doing? Hey, you're still in Tucson. Welcome home?
Speaker 2: Yeah, still in Tucson for a little while longer. It's
Speaker 2: almost time to head back out.
Speaker 5: Yes, nice. Nice. What are you doing these days?
Speaker 2: Let us know, still playing professional basketball overseas in China
Speaker 2: and right now it's all seasons, just out here at
Speaker 2: home in Tucson with the family.
Speaker 5: Very nice, very nice.
Speaker 6: I love hearing Kyle, this is jakins Ow's We've never met,
Speaker 6: but I I was. I was the guy in the
Speaker 6: computer who's giving you all your stats. So you need
Speaker 6: to say thank you for that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm forever grateful for that.
Speaker 6: I love to hear you say home when you're talking
Speaker 6: about Tucson. You came here, you've decided to stay here.
Speaker 6: Why Why is Tucson home?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know how it is as far as
Speaker 2: just city wise, you know, not a not a better
Speaker 2: place out there, as far as you know college town
Speaker 2: and you know, just to love and appreciative people you
Speaker 2: get out here, as well as just uh, you know,
Speaker 2: being out here for four years in college where some
Speaker 2: of the best times in my life and the really
Speaker 2: about built out here have just been incredible. So you know,
Speaker 2: moving out here was definitely a no brainer.
Speaker 3: So we were talking to begin the day here how
Speaker 3: Sanders Dane Sanders talks about the media hating on the
Speaker 3: some of the players now nowadays because of criticism and stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, back in the day, I think Luke gave
Speaker 3: you guys a luxury of talking to the media and
Speaker 3: being good dudes. And you were one of them because
Speaker 3: you understood we're not against you, We're just here to.
Speaker 7: Tell your story.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, absolutely, I never had any problems at all.
Speaker 2: I also think you know, the media and you guys
Speaker 2: here are a lot you know better than they are
Speaker 2: in other places as far as you aren't just looking
Speaker 2: to put out you know, junk Dog and the players.
Speaker 2: You know, you're honest, but you're also you know, part
Speaker 2: of the family as well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you know, I think some of the guys in
Speaker 2: other places they might you know, throw some dirt on
Speaker 2: guys and they just just doesn't have that feel of
Speaker 2: how it is out here.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: You guys are definitely you have to get you have
Speaker 2: to do your job and get the story. But you're
Speaker 2: never doing anything without integrity. That's a big difference.
Speaker 3: Did you in all your travels, could you've travels all
Speaker 3: over the place, did you suffer one of those stories
Speaker 3: or two?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you know, especially you know if you're
Speaker 2: you know you're playing well. You know everybody loves you,
Speaker 2: you're playing you're playing bad. Everybody's against you and wants
Speaker 2: to put the blame on you. So that's that's definitely
Speaker 2: come up. But there's a difference between you know, you're
Speaker 2: playing bad here and yeah, they have to put that
Speaker 2: out there, but they still are supportive, you know, fintas
Speaker 2: with the you know, we know he'll turn it around
Speaker 2: as far as here, but if you're overseas or anywhere else,
Speaker 2: it might be a get him out of here, you know.
Speaker 6: But you know, in the end, I mean, it's more
Speaker 6: about being fair or unfair, right if you I mean,
Speaker 6: if you play, if you play poor, do you expect
Speaker 6: somebody to call you out for playing poorly?
Speaker 5: Don't you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know we're we're we're out here, you know,
Speaker 2: getting free education. And now you know, even these guys
Speaker 2: are making a lot of money, so you know, you're
Speaker 2: hell to a higher thing, just like you guys get
Speaker 2: paid for your job. If you don't do a good job,
Speaker 2: guess what, you know, somebody's gonna come over you and
Speaker 2: tell you you need to pick it up. So yeah,
Speaker 2: obviously there's the right way to do that what you
Speaker 2: guys do here. But still everybody needs to be called
Speaker 2: out if they're you know, not doing their job the
Speaker 2: way they need to be doing.
Speaker 3: So kind I can easily say this, you know, having
Speaker 3: covered you back in the day, that you're a guy
Speaker 3: who bet on himself. Uh, I'm not sure if you
Speaker 3: wanted to prove people wrong, but you wanted to be
Speaker 3: prove yourself right, I.
Speaker 2: Think yeah, definitely a little bit of both. All the
Speaker 2: people who believe in you, you want to make them
Speaker 2: look good and all the people who you who don't,
Speaker 2: you want to make them, you know, look the type.
Speaker 5: You can say bad, you can say bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you want them to look stupid, and
Speaker 2: you want the people who believe in you look good.
Speaker 2: So you know, you put the work in and obviously,
Speaker 2: playing here it's like like I said, it's like home,
Speaker 2: it's like a family. So you want to make all
Speaker 2: those fans who are rooting for you feel good about
Speaker 2: going to the game. We're gonna lose. You know, you
Speaker 2: leave your heart out there and they appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Here along the way it kind of where did you
Speaker 3: where would you say you cut your first break after juve?
Speaker 5: Sorry, said I want to where would you say you.
Speaker 3: Cut your first break after juve. Juve doesn't include this
Speaker 3: your next break where you said, Okay, someone believes in
Speaker 3: you and you were going to be able to make
Speaker 3: some money, make some money and make you know, just
Speaker 3: have a career.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, yeah, I think you know, my agent was
Speaker 2: was big meeting him my first year out of college
Speaker 2: or second year, I should say, uh so, I guess
Speaker 2: he's kind of really the first person who believed in
Speaker 2: me as a pro. And then from there on it
Speaker 2: was just you know, him kind of helping me guide
Speaker 2: my career and making sure I'm taking the right opportunities.
Speaker 2: And then that made it just so I could just
Speaker 2: focus on basketball. So I wouldn't go for any team
Speaker 2: as per se as somebody who believed in me, but
Speaker 2: more of so just my agent Andrew kind of really
Speaker 2: guided my steps.
Speaker 5: Nice.
Speaker 6: So what's China been like? Because I, I mean, I've
Speaker 6: been there a couple of times. It's it's an incredibly
Speaker 6: interesting place. But you know, actually living there and having
Speaker 6: a career there, what you know, what have been the
Speaker 6: big adjustments for you and what do you like about
Speaker 6: being there?
Speaker 2: I think it's definitely a lot different than it is
Speaker 2: here obviously. I mean, when you're playing in Europe, you
Speaker 2: can get some type of you know, Western culture vibes,
Speaker 2: but being on the East, it's a it's a it's
Speaker 2: a whole lot different. I think the people there are
Speaker 2: are super loyal, super nice. Uh they really treat you
Speaker 2: in with open arms, you know. Uh, So that's definitely
Speaker 2: one of the favorite things I have. Just they have
Speaker 2: amazing fans, just like we have that and Tucson. But
Speaker 2: I think the drawbacks are just the language barrier there.
Speaker 2: You you know, you it's really hard to do simple
Speaker 2: things and get around and as far as ordering food
Speaker 2: or taking a DD so that's tough. But just culturally,
Speaker 2: you know, they have some incredible things out there, you know,
Speaker 2: seeing the great Walls and must see and then just
Speaker 2: the people are definitely some of the favorite things I
Speaker 2: like out there.
Speaker 5: I'm sure. I'm sure being a star basketball player helps.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that definitely have a little advantage going
Speaker 2: out there as as a basketball player than you would
Speaker 2: if you're kind of just doing the tourist thing.
Speaker 3: Are you are you even though it's a big place,
Speaker 3: you recognized everywhere you go, like you would be here.
Speaker 2: Not not as far as the country goes, but in
Speaker 2: my city, it's pretty pretty crazy as far as just fans.
Speaker 2: I think we definitely are the most supportive team in
Speaker 2: the league. And there's a lot of fans here who
Speaker 2: are from China and America who even come up to
Speaker 2: me today when I'm here, and just supporters of our team.
Speaker 2: So it is pretty you know, everywhere you go basically
Speaker 2: you kind of get get mobbed, which is you know,
Speaker 2: pros and cons of course, but definitely grateful for it.
Speaker 6: Okay, so you've been at you know, some other places
Speaker 6: overseas playing basketball. You know, every where you go, whether
Speaker 6: it's a different league or country or whatever, are there
Speaker 6: big differences in the game, and especially compared to the
Speaker 6: US game or you know, do you have to adjust
Speaker 6: to how the game is played or is it kind
Speaker 6: of the same. Is it just United States and overseas
Speaker 6: or is it overseas different ways that they play in
Speaker 6: different in different leagues in different countries.
Speaker 2: That's an incredible question, by the way. And every country
Speaker 2: has a different play style. So you know, Germany, for example,
Speaker 2: was super physical. A little slower but really physical. Best
Speaker 2: let you play out there. China is definitely the top
Speaker 2: teams are more fast paced, physical as well, but not
Speaker 2: as you know, pounded it inside as a place like
Speaker 2: Germany was. Spain was was extremely you know, high high competition,
Speaker 2: probably the best competition that I've seen in Europe. Very
Speaker 2: high intelligent coaches, high IQ players, So it's it's like
Speaker 2: almost like a chess match out there in Spain. So
Speaker 2: every country is a little bit different play styles, so
Speaker 2: you definitely have to adjust. And then it's also cool
Speaker 2: if you're playing in Spain you get to I was
Speaker 2: on one of the top teams, so we got to
Speaker 2: play against teams in Italy, France and Germany all over
Speaker 2: you know, Russia, so you get to see how those
Speaker 2: play styles are against your own. So every country definitely
Speaker 2: has a different.
Speaker 5: Type of style, yes, which really interesting it is.
Speaker 3: So tell me, well, you you kind of also made
Speaker 3: start them with TBT, right you you played and you
Speaker 3: want to a couple of those.
Speaker 5: How was that?
Speaker 3: And then maybe going away from that because you were
Speaker 3: you were doing really.
Speaker 2: Well in the m Yeah, yeah, that was an amazing
Speaker 2: experience with super super blessed to win a ridiculous four
Speaker 2: times in a row. I think obviously we had to
Speaker 2: throws on our roster from top to bottom, so that helped.
Speaker 2: But we just had a bunch of guys who were
Speaker 2: all about, you know, winning so that you know, we
Speaker 2: can get paid. And other teams were guys trying to
Speaker 2: show out, trying to get any contracts, or just trying
Speaker 2: to score a bunch of points or me and me,
Speaker 2: and I think that was a big difference. And then
Speaker 2: you know, once you win one, you get far you
Speaker 2: in two, then it's just like experience, you know, you
Speaker 2: can you can since these guys get nervous at the end.
Speaker 2: As far as that's we're just kind of calm the
Speaker 2: whole way. And that kind of goes with the same
Speaker 2: thing as far as us winning in China right now.
Speaker 3: As well, right now, let me let me go from
Speaker 3: there to you know, doing you doing very well, making
Speaker 3: some money in the TBT to kind of being the
Speaker 3: humanitarian And I can't remember and did the story a
Speaker 3: few years back where you were building houses or helping
Speaker 3: build houses somewhere?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, schools three pencils of Promise and a few locations.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I started, uh maybe like my third year out.
Speaker 2: You know, I read a book, you know, life change.
Speaker 2: The book called The Promise of a pencil by Adam Brown,
Speaker 2: who's the founder of the company, and he just talked
Speaker 2: about you know, even you know, twenty dollars makes a
Speaker 2: huge difference to people, and you know, just overseas, and
Speaker 2: you know, we're very grateful for taking a lot of
Speaker 2: things for granted here like education and and you know,
Speaker 2: having the opportunities that we have here and around the world.
Speaker 2: It's not like that. So you know, I've been began
Speaker 2: giving a lot as far as as much as I
Speaker 2: could when I was thirty year out and then you
Speaker 2: know that's only increased over time. And I definitely have
Speaker 2: huge plans in the future to continue, you know, doing
Speaker 2: my best to you know, give back and give up
Speaker 2: his opportunity that they may not have, you know, without
Speaker 2: you know, my hard work and the people in my
Speaker 2: life kind of working together to make a difference.
Speaker 5: We need more.
Speaker 6: Coyle Well exactly, we're talking to Kyle Fogg form Arizona
Speaker 6: player back in the back in the day.
Speaker 5: Kyle, it has been a while but also.
Speaker 6: Very successful pro Where does that come from, Kyle, Because
Speaker 6: at some point, yeah, something had to happen in your
Speaker 6: life or somebody had to be uh, you know, counsel
Speaker 6: you in your life and influence in your life to
Speaker 6: do those kinds of things, because there's so many people
Speaker 6: who get to position a position like yours who just
Speaker 6: don't and you do, where where did that come from?
Speaker 5: Do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean you're you're spot on once again. You
Speaker 2: definitely cannot do these things alone. And I've been super blessed.
Speaker 2: Obviously starts with my mom just you know, from an
Speaker 2: early age, I always you know, wanted to give her
Speaker 2: a better life. So that was kind of where seeing
Speaker 2: her work so hard and just to give me, you know,
Speaker 2: these opportunities, I wanted to really change that for her.
Speaker 2: And then you know, at Arizona, I was able to meet,
Speaker 2: you know, some of my closest friends who are doing
Speaker 2: investing in real estate and doing investing in like the
Speaker 2: stock market, and you know, I learned, you know, the
Speaker 2: importance of just saving your money and preparing for life
Speaker 2: after sports, and obviously the importance of giving as well.
Speaker 2: So it's just been like very you know, lucky and
Speaker 2: fortunate to have those people in my life to kind
Speaker 2: of help me out be you know, the moral compass
Speaker 2: as well as you know, show me what's possible if
Speaker 2: you continue to work hard and do the right things.
Speaker 5: Can you adopt me? Kyle? Please?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 6: You know, Kyle, he's only about I'm going to say,
Speaker 6: ten years from wearying diapers.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if you really want to do that.
Speaker 3: Along those lines, Kyle, because what do you what do
Speaker 3: you miss up about Luke? He's been gone maybe three
Speaker 3: four years now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously an emotional topic. He's just such a special person.
Speaker 2: I just still haven't to this day met somebody with
Speaker 2: that type of wur if you guys know what I
Speaker 2: mean by that. You know, he walks in the room
Speaker 2: and you guys both know like he just is just magnetic,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and and just such positive
Speaker 2: energy and treats everybody in incredibly And I think just
Speaker 2: obviously what I missed about and is just he would
Speaker 2: tell me as one of his last recluse, if not
Speaker 2: me last, just that he was proud of me. And
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of took that as a badge
Speaker 2: of honor not only just represent the universeit of Arizona
Speaker 2: the right way, but you know, representing him and that
Speaker 2: has made me, you know, I think twice before you're
Speaker 2: doing any knucklehead things you know, to do things the
Speaker 2: right way because you're representing him and you representing you know,
Speaker 2: the city of Tucson and University of Arizona. So it's
Speaker 2: definitely helped me become a better player. And another thing
Speaker 2: is just you know, I went to see him pretty
Speaker 2: much every year as he continued to get older. And
Speaker 2: what was crazy is like, even up until you know,
Speaker 2: very close to when he you know, went up theirs
Speaker 2: to be with the man upstairs, he was still sharp
Speaker 2: his attack. Just we had a few guys together at
Speaker 2: his house, which we usually did annually before you know,
Speaker 2: the coach o camp, and you know, he was being
Speaker 2: able to recall different games and memories that he had
Speaker 2: with all of us, and it was just crazy to see,
Speaker 2: you know, how sharp he was even all the way
Speaker 2: up until the.
Speaker 3: End, you know, right right in my book, the one
Speaker 3: thing that the player said, the relationship during the coaching
Speaker 3: was different than after you were gone, right, you were
Speaker 3: he was your coaching, and then once you were done,
Speaker 3: he was something else to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. He's just a guy you just want
Speaker 2: to make proud. You know. He just just really cared
Speaker 2: about all of us and and loved us. Honestly, so
Speaker 2: he I think he was a father figure to all
Speaker 2: those guys, you know, no matter what type of home
Speaker 2: you grew up in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's awesome. Now now I want you to adopt me.
Speaker 6: So you got you got two old guys adopted. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I got it. Yeah, I'm diapers are not already my
Speaker 6: near future, not my long future.
Speaker 3: So you're back. What's your favorite place to eat? We've
Speaker 3: got to go in about a minute or so. You
Speaker 3: come back for a reason, and which you know, you
Speaker 3: hang out somewhere, you eat somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's specific, but we're all we're always trying
Speaker 2: to try new you know spots. We love you know,
Speaker 2: Mexican food, my wife and I, so we're always trying
Speaker 2: to try anything from you know, all the spots that
Speaker 2: long Cantata or even any hole in the walls spots
Speaker 2: that you can get you know, down the street. I
Speaker 2: think you have just such a pleasure of restaurants here.
Speaker 2: But you know, most of my time to spend out
Speaker 2: to you over there, watching the guys with Tommy, who's incredible,
Speaker 2: by the way, and then just training and preparing myself
Speaker 2: for you know, another season.
Speaker 6: All right, when do you When do you leave? When
Speaker 6: do you head back out?
Speaker 2: I'll probably head out sometime next week. We have more practices,
Speaker 2: continue working and then it's time to go. So you
Speaker 2: guys caught me at the perfect time.
Speaker 3: But no, great, And what you're a great mentor for
Speaker 3: the guys too. I mean because you're you know, out
Speaker 3: of a lot of them are international. You're international. Now
Speaker 3: you'll get to see that it's not just the NBA.
Speaker 3: You can make it great somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think a lot of guys don't don't
Speaker 2: realize that. And as far as the team goes, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about the team this year and they
Speaker 2: have They are one of the best group of guys
Speaker 2: top to bottom that I've I've seen, So I think
Speaker 2: these guys are going to have a good year.
Speaker 3: Great Kyle's usual, Thank you very much, man. Appreciate Appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, appreciate you guys. Thank you so much about me.
Speaker 2: Well do it again?
Speaker 3: No great, great dude, Like I said yesterday, he's just
Speaker 3: like he gets it.
Speaker 5: Some dudes don't get it. But I don't think he's
Speaker 5: going to change your diapers. Well there's always the next guy.
Speaker 3: Maybe they can help me get a hold of give
Speaker 3: a hold of of our Boston Boston or Red Sox. Oh, Terry, Terry,
Speaker 3: Frank coda, won't you won't definitely not do that.
Speaker 5: He's not doing that. I get to find some successful
Speaker 5: older woman exactly. All right, Hey, that was great. That
Speaker 5: was a lot of fun. That was awesome.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's take our break. We're going to come back,
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Speaker 1: This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to I'm the Ball Hero Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jagins Auf got Henry
Speaker 3: out of the controls at twenty minutes, I could spend
Speaker 3: another I could have spent another twenty minutes with.
Speaker 6: Kyle buck cut off for sure. He's you know, such
Speaker 6: a you know, an energetic guy. Again I say this
Speaker 6: every time we talk to one of these guys, right,
Speaker 6: who comes here, goes to school here, and digs in here, right,
Speaker 6: and you know, and a lot of these guys give back,
Speaker 6: they do stuff in the community, but more than anything,
Speaker 6: they speak well of Tucson.
Speaker 5: And I love that. Right.
Speaker 3: Well, we talked about it, because it's the Joe Nels,
Speaker 3: It's the Corey Williams, the Hunley's, then.
Speaker 6: Cecil, you know, the Bob Elliott's, right, all those guys,
Speaker 6: and not just football and basketball players, you know, Chrissy
Speaker 6: you know, uh uh, Chrissy perm you know stuff like that.
Speaker 6: Athletes who come here and find a place here, right,
Speaker 6: they decide this is where I want to be. I
Speaker 6: love hearing that again as somebody who's a native of Tucson.
Speaker 6: All right, we've got to call her. Let's go and
Speaker 6: take that. Hi, you're on the air and I on
Speaker 6: the ball.
Speaker 2: Hey, the next time you guys talk to college, just
Speaker 2: ask him if he thinks Chris Rogers will have stuck
Speaker 2: across the entire world. Not just kidding.
Speaker 6: This is why we have the screeners exactly, so I
Speaker 6: get it. But probably yes, too fuddy to fuddy uh
Speaker 6: for Chris Rogers.
Speaker 5: Then what do you ever do? The whole thing? You
Speaker 5: got suspended and came back. Yeah, the first guy ever, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I know he was talking to him and he came back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what are you gonna does that? What are you
Speaker 6: gonna do? But again, you'll get back to that point.
Speaker 6: I really like that. It's it's very cool, and you
Speaker 6: really feel like you're in the place. It's got, it's
Speaker 6: got something. Steve here, Well you came from somewhere here.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you know you have this submission. You come here.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be here for three four years, five years,
Speaker 3: go on to the next place, the next place. Then
Speaker 3: you say why, you know why. I had a great
Speaker 3: opportunity as as you know, I covered the basketball team.
Speaker 3: And where am I going to go to cover basketball
Speaker 3: team like that?
Speaker 5: Right? No, just stay here and just stay here. You'll
Speaker 5: make what we make, not a whole lot of money.
Speaker 6: But enjoy what you're doing, right, right, I get that, right?
Speaker 6: Got another collar? No, we don't. Okay, you know, yeah,
Speaker 6: and I mean you know and actually you know when
Speaker 6: I was at the paper, you know, I interviewed some
Speaker 6: some places. One Fresno was one. Uh, Sam Bernardino was
Speaker 6: one Orlando was one and I'm like, wait a minute,
Speaker 6: what am I doing?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: And what am I doing? And my wife the same thing.
Speaker 6: You know, she interviewed at some places and you know
Speaker 6: where we both would have gone right.
Speaker 3: Well, to give you grief about this too, because your daughter,
Speaker 3: your daughter, who's been here, your most your family's been here, right,
Speaker 3: she's the one that's kind of coop, one of the first.
Speaker 6: I think she's already forgotten about us. So that's what happened.
Speaker 6: She's in San Diego right. In fact, I'm going to
Speaker 6: see her this weekend. Okay, we do have a caller.
Speaker 6: Let's take this. Hi, you're on there and eye on
Speaker 6: the ball.
Speaker 2: Hey, I was coed. Just wanted to congratulate you on
Speaker 2: your new life direction.
Speaker 5: Oh thank you boys.
Speaker 2: Nice to see something from the old stopping grounds doing well.
Speaker 5: Appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Who's this let's go?
Speaker 5: Oh Cole, what's up? Thank you for calling? Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I didn't recognize that away home from work man.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know what to tell Steve. Steve will
Speaker 6: do a good job for you. He'll he'll keep this
Speaker 6: thing going and keep the conversation going. But be sure
Speaker 6: to catch us once a month at the at the casine. Know, man,
Speaker 6: we'll be on we'll man.
Speaker 5: The show will be on the air from the casino.
Speaker 6: So once a month I'll still be doing and then
Speaker 6: if you you know, if you, if you, if you
Speaker 6: feel like it's worth your while, I'll be doing the
Speaker 6: Friday pick still. So uh well, yeah, as bad as
Speaker 6: they might be, well they might be on Thursday, they'll
Speaker 6: be on Thursday. They'll be on Thursday when we do
Speaker 6: it at the casino.
Speaker 2: Right, So I didn't know, Okay, I got that.
Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate it, and we appreciate all the you know,
Speaker 6: the times you've called in and stuff.
Speaker 5: That's it's been fun to have you.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of fun time to the guys from
Speaker 2: the from from the old guys like me.
Speaker 5: The old neighborhood man. Well you can call keep calling, yeah,
Speaker 5: keep calling called Steve.
Speaker 6: He's you know, he's he's he's still you still got
Speaker 6: an old Mexican sitting here.
Speaker 5: On the on the night from the hood.
Speaker 2: But all right, I will for sure, all.
Speaker 5: Right, thank you go look at all these violent moments.
Speaker 6: You know they're going to love you, Steve, because they
Speaker 6: helped so well, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Was on my own at the previous sea, the previous
Speaker 3: show for a while. That was that was okay, So
Speaker 3: we'll figure out.
Speaker 5: Why it's your first rodeo or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I have the guys. They were with me on Monday.
Speaker 3: We had some good conversations. You know, Matt used to play,
Speaker 3: so he kind of you know, he gives me a
Speaker 3: wink or not. The players used to get paid. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: he used to get paid, I know. But he's betting
Speaker 3: on something obscure.
Speaker 6: Guys over here he's talked about he's got some money
Speaker 6: on a guy that.
Speaker 5: I've never heard.
Speaker 3: Another reason, another reason to think that the kids don't
Speaker 3: feel sorry for the kids. They got money from somewhere right,
Speaker 3: whether his mom and dad or somewhere exactly exactly.
Speaker 6: But it's uh no, you know, it'll be uh it'll
Speaker 6: be great, it'll it'll be great. Dodgers up six, Nothing
Speaker 6: will show. Hey did not get anything in his last
Speaker 6: bad In fact, he struck out.
Speaker 5: So did you announce that he did get the steel?
Speaker 6: He did get a steal, right, so he's got forty
Speaker 6: eight homers forty nine steels. So he's getting close, getting
Speaker 6: real close to getting this thing done. The Dodgers are
Speaker 6: The Dodgers are whacking the Marlins. Although they got beat
Speaker 6: last night eleven and nine. It was a crazy game.
Speaker 6: Been a lot of fun. It's been fun to watch,
Speaker 6: to do all this stuff, to watch games. We'll talk
Speaker 6: about stuff as we're on the air.
Speaker 3: You know, you were kind of keeping tabs before I
Speaker 3: brought you on because you're a sports guy. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: this is just kind of hiding it a little bit more.
Speaker 6: Quite a bit it did, and you know, I felt
Speaker 6: like I got much more involved in the you know,
Speaker 6: both in the news media here here in town. You're
Speaker 6: going to the press conferences and practices and talking about
Speaker 6: all this stuff. But also just I paid a lot
Speaker 6: more attention to sports in general, right, because I mean, look,
Speaker 6: you and I we don't spend the whole day studying
Speaker 6: and talking about what we're going to talk about. But
Speaker 6: still there's a certain amount of preparation you got to do.
Speaker 6: And in terms of under knowing what's going on that day,
Speaker 6: right or knowing what's been going on now, sometimes we
Speaker 6: miss it, we miss big things, but other times, you know,
Speaker 6: we're breaking news or we're talking about stuff that is important.
Speaker 6: You know, we spent some time, for instance, talking about
Speaker 6: this whole thing going on to Tennessee with tickets and
Speaker 6: paying players and how that's going to affect you know,
Speaker 6: how that might affect uh, you know, Tucson and and
Speaker 6: the UVE football team in terms of are they going
Speaker 6: to start asking for putting, you know, a premium on
Speaker 6: ticket prices so that that money can go directly to athletes.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, if one, if one place does
Speaker 6: it and it works for them, they're going to try
Speaker 6: it somewhere else. You know, you were asking about the
Speaker 6: guys that I you know, that I hang out with
Speaker 6: on my Wednesday lunch, and they're like, well, where it's
Speaker 6: at Tennessee doesn't necessarily work in Tucson, Arizona. If you
Speaker 6: start raising prices, there comes to time a point where
Speaker 6: you've got a diminishing return where you raise prices and
Speaker 6: people start staying away and you're not making up the
Speaker 6: ground that you think you're going to make up that
Speaker 6: you know, you're not going to keep everybody if you
Speaker 6: raise prices ten dollars, fifteen dollars, twenty dollars for somebody
Speaker 6: who's only paying one hundred dollars for their tickets or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, right.
Speaker 6: So you know, and again the point being having that
Speaker 6: kind of news and knowing these things are going on,
Speaker 6: and Steve, there's been so much going on, and I mean,
Speaker 6: think about it. I came in during COVID and nothing
Speaker 6: has been the same since then.
Speaker 5: Nothing has been what it.
Speaker 6: Was like before COVID, Right, yeah, no question, right, you know,
Speaker 6: the COVID changed everything. Then all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 6: you're you're covering games from you don't even have to
Speaker 6: go to games anymore to cover games. Where we used
Speaker 6: to mock reporters, right, who wrote about a game that
Speaker 6: they didn't go to? We all did, right, And then
Speaker 6: you know, and then there was the whole Then the
Speaker 6: all the NIL stuff started, and the transfer portal started,
Speaker 6: and you know, all this shuffling around and realignment and
Speaker 6: all these things have all happened in this four year
Speaker 6: window since we've been on this sholve, So we've always
Speaker 6: had something to talk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're always going to be you know, I
Speaker 3: joke about this too. I'm you know, I'm sixty years
Speaker 3: sixty five and things have changed so much. I'm kind
Speaker 3: of I say, I'm joking saying this. I'm glad I'm
Speaker 3: at the tail end of my career, but I have
Speaker 3: a few more years left because.
Speaker 5: It's gonna change again.
Speaker 3: It's gonna continue to change, and it's gonna be guys
Speaker 3: like find me and just saying what the hell is
Speaker 3: going on here?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Because I don't.
Speaker 3: Envy the the the ads today and we talked to
Speaker 3: a lot of them, yea, who say, I don't know
Speaker 3: it's gonna change tomorrow and changing the week whatever.
Speaker 6: And the fine thing is we've got that perspective, Steve,
Speaker 6: where things were a certain way for so long for us.
Speaker 6: But then you see you see the young guys in
Speaker 6: the media, right justin Spears, Troy Hutchison, even Michael lev
Speaker 6: who's a little longer in the tooth than those guys,
Speaker 6: that this is the way it's been for them right
Speaker 6: since they've been young, right, and it's not the way
Speaker 6: it's been for us, And and you know, they've got
Speaker 6: a different perspective on it's kind of like this is
Speaker 6: all you know, this is the way it is. It's
Speaker 6: old had it's been like this for us for a
Speaker 6: long time, where you and I, you know, it's like
Speaker 6: you know where that get off? My long guy? You know,
Speaker 6: the old days were awesome. Well the new days are
Speaker 6: awesome too.
Speaker 3: They're just different, right right, No, No, And the guys here,
Speaker 3: like like Henry and that they're going to have to
Speaker 3: be and we've seen this. How how they're gonna have
Speaker 3: to carry the cameras, they have to do the interviews,
Speaker 3: they have to set up their positions. Back in the day,
Speaker 3: you had a camera guy, you set a spot. Now
Speaker 3: it's you're all on your own, multimedia type of things
Speaker 3: right where you have to do so many different things.
Speaker 3: You have to you know, transcribe right, you know, on deadlines.
Speaker 3: Just the change of it. I'm just glad I don't
Speaker 3: do it anymore as much as I.
Speaker 6: Use Well, yeah, we mean we said that a million
Speaker 6: times that you know, whatever you want to call what
Speaker 6: we do. In terms of being a part of the media,
Speaker 6: neither one of us would want to be beat writers.
Speaker 6: The you know, the way we were it was, I mean,
Speaker 6: it was fun when we did it. It was hard
Speaker 6: work when we did it. I know a lot of
Speaker 6: people have a hard time believing that it was hard
Speaker 6: work because we were at games and that that how
Speaker 6: hard work can that be? But you know, now we're
Speaker 6: kind of more on the fringe of it. We we
Speaker 6: kind of do, we kind of covered sort of on
Speaker 6: our own terms. Is what This is the way I
Speaker 6: would put it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're right. Oh and here we are, yeah,
Speaker 3: here we are. Okay, what time is it? We good
Speaker 3: about a few private guys? Anybody want to call?
Speaker 7: Please do?
Speaker 3: We're almost out of time. Yeah, we have time for
Speaker 3: a call though, yep. Five two, four, one, six, seventy
Speaker 3: four forty.
Speaker 5: But uh, you know, and it's all changed.
Speaker 6: It's not just you know, I mean, we talk so
Speaker 6: much about because we're in tioce on Arizona, we talk
Speaker 6: so much about college athletics, but you know, majors, you know,
Speaker 6: major league sports have changed dramatically too. You've got you
Speaker 6: got quarterbacks making fifty million dollars a year and quarterbacks
Speaker 6: who aren't even all that good maybe fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3: You know, you're you're, you're you're talking to something I
Speaker 3: was gonna want to talk about coming in because of
Speaker 3: the Bryce the Brice. How many good quarterbacks are out there?
Speaker 3: And maybe Matt would know this or Henry today sick,
Speaker 3: there's not There are not very many good ones.
Speaker 6: You can I mean, we can name them right that
Speaker 6: you say that guy's worth Kirk Cousins, all right, had
Speaker 6: a great game.
Speaker 3: You know, is he worth that's what they're paying him.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're paying him, but probably not.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean he got a well, I'll give you hundreds
Speaker 6: of millions of dollar contract one right now, Dak Yep,
Speaker 6: there's another guy and he just got his contract. It's
Speaker 6: a huge contract he got. He just got this massive contract.
Speaker 6: And his first time out with that contract, he gets
Speaker 6: beat and he didn't get I mean, the Cowboys got beat.
Speaker 6: What was it forty five to nineteen or something like that.
Speaker 6: It was terrible. And again, you know, you go back
Speaker 6: to what are we doing? You know, and and do
Speaker 6: these guys deserve that money? And why are they giving
Speaker 6: him that money? But you know, if you look at
Speaker 6: the fifty million dollars quarterbacks, and I don't have the
Speaker 6: list in front of me, but I'll say that probably
Speaker 6: three of them aren't worthy of the fifty million dollars.
Speaker 6: Do do you think.
Speaker 5: Georgia Love is worth that muchy?
Speaker 6: He hasn't done anything to have proven that he's that
Speaker 6: he's worthy of that money.
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes Sure? Who else?
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow?
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow? You know, yeah, I get yeah, Josh Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 5: but even Lamar Yeah, lo time MVP, I get that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know he's gonna win some games, all
Speaker 3: the kid the guy that the rams, Donald Donald.
Speaker 6: Uh uh no, no, no, Matt Stafford Stafford, Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: but you know it's crazy that these guys are getting
Speaker 6: that that kind of money and what do they you know,
Speaker 6: what are they what is the team getting back for that?
Speaker 5: Uh? You know, let's just say, you know, does Jared
Speaker 5: Goff deserve that kind of money? I don't know. Jared
Speaker 5: Goff's a good quarterback? Is he a great quarterback? I
Speaker 5: don't think so. Not yet. At least he might be.
Speaker 6: He got his team to the NFC championship, but then
Speaker 6: he but then he blew it.
Speaker 5: So I don't know. All right, Steve, one more day,
Speaker 5: pass man. We gotta get out of tomorrow. Another day. Yep,
Speaker 5: it's gotta come up with some guests. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I be back Thursday, and then Friday will be my
Speaker 6: last day and we'll uh, we'll try not to shed
Speaker 6: it to here.
Speaker 5: Okay, promise, I promise, all right, thanks for being here.
Speaker 5: We'll be back tomorrow