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Speaker 4: Hey, father Malone, how are you today?
Speaker 3: I am well, sir, and happy to be talking about
Speaker 3: another anthology that's lighter hearted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, after all that Cohen Brothers heavy handedness and you
Speaker 4: think you go into a Cohen Brother's picture and you're like,
Speaker 4: it's going to be fun, and then you're like, oh no,
Speaker 4: this movie's about dead people and sadness. I got God
Speaker 4: bless them. But yes, I am excited to talk about
Speaker 4: the King of comedy himself, the great, the hero to
Speaker 4: gen xers everywhere, the one and only mel Brooks, War
Speaker 4: hero and Oscar winner mel Brooks.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, and that picture is History of the World
Speaker 3: Part one, written, produced and directed by mister mel Brooks,
Speaker 3: starring mel Brooks, also starring Dom de Luise, Madeline conn
Speaker 3: Harvey Korman, Chloris Leachman, Gregory Hines, and Pamela Stevenson, with
Speaker 3: narration by Orson Well. The film was released on June
Speaker 3: the twelfth, nineteen eighty one. The plot is a series
Speaker 3: of vignettes basically chronicling from the Stone Age up until
Speaker 3: the French Revolution, with some previews of what the future
Speaker 3: has to hold.
Speaker 5: From the naked dawn of man to the magnificence of
Speaker 5: the Bible.
Speaker 6: The Lord Jehovah has given onto you The's fifteen.
Speaker 3: Ten ten commandments.
Speaker 5: From the glory that was Rome to the dark evils
Speaker 5: of the Spanish Inquisition.
Speaker 6: War now begins the Inquisition.
Speaker 5: I go about to the French Revolution with its squalor
Speaker 5: and its splendor.
Speaker 4: The Pesses may grow violent, they are my people. I
Speaker 4: am the sovereign.
Speaker 7: I love them.
Speaker 5: The History of the World Part one, starring.
Speaker 6: Stead the Manor King, o Women, Morman, more Handsometan love long.
Speaker 4: Ship, your beautiful that I'm just meeting on a high note.
Speaker 3: Hey, what country are you from?
Speaker 4: The Ophia?
Speaker 2: What part.
Speaker 4: On twenty fifth Street?
Speaker 3: I'm Miriam, I'm the best Virgin.
Speaker 6: I'm really sorry to hear that you should have been
Speaker 6: here over thirty grains ago. Please, brothers mee chest day drama.
Speaker 4: Do you require a bland pol none?
Speaker 1: Have you any last words?
Speaker 4: None? Chest do yokee action.
Speaker 8: Where they're going?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Romance, they win eight Spectacle, The Acquisition what a show.
Speaker 4: We know you wish and that we go away.
Speaker 3: But the Exquisition's here and it's here to stay.
Speaker 5: Tail Brooks. History of the World Part One ten million
Speaker 5: years in.
Speaker 3: The making, Antonio, where did you first see this movie?
Speaker 3: What are your memories of this movie?
Speaker 4: I saw this pretty much like ninety eight percent of
Speaker 4: everybody from the age of forty to fifty forty to
Speaker 4: fifty something. I first saw this movie on HBO, probably
Speaker 4: after school with my buddies Chris Smith and Mike Smith
Speaker 4: at their grandma's house. It was on HBO constantly, and
Speaker 4: it was on the superstation constant. Those were the other two,
Speaker 4: and of course the HBO version being much better. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I saw a zillion times growing.
Speaker 3: Up, I had the exact same experience. Yeah, I already
Speaker 3: loved to mel Brooks. I had seen by the time
Speaker 3: History of the World Part One hit HBO. I know
Speaker 3: that I had seen Young Frankenstein in the theater. I
Speaker 3: don't think on the initial run. I think it was
Speaker 3: one when the movie initially came out, but they did
Speaker 3: back in the day, if you remember, they would re
Speaker 3: release movies from time to time, and on one of
Speaker 3: those re releases, I got to see you on Frankston,
Speaker 3: so I knew who mel Brooks was, and he was
Speaker 3: always all over television and talk shows and stuff. I
Speaker 3: was definitely looking forward to watching this movie, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it was on one billion time. You couldn't get away
Speaker 3: from the movie.
Speaker 4: I'm betting my first exposure to him was probably Spaceballs
Speaker 4: or my age, yeah, ten or whatever I was when
Speaker 4: I came out, But maybe this Young Frankenstein. I don't
Speaker 4: think I saw until I was like thirteen or fourteen.
Speaker 4: But before we go on, Young Frankenstein is his master.
Speaker 4: Young Frankenstein is not only one of the funniest movies
Speaker 4: that ever made, I think Young Frankenstein is one of
Speaker 4: the finest movies ever made. It is a flawless, perfect
Speaker 4: film that is not only about making laugh, but it's
Speaker 4: about Hollywood itself. It's about Hollywood history, it's about literature,
Speaker 4: It's about a lot of things that movie. And there's
Speaker 4: a reason why it's always on the afilists. There's a
Speaker 4: reason why it continues to be in the discussion of
Speaker 4: this day as a great movie. Everybody talks about Blazing
Speaker 4: Saddles Blazing Faddles is one of the pound for pound
Speaker 4: funniest things ever made. But it's part of the conversation
Speaker 4: today because but you couldn't make it today. Of course
Speaker 4: he could make it today, but the studio guy would
Speaker 4: just say, we already made that movie. No, but you
Speaker 4: can make it today. I don't think it is as
Speaker 4: taboo as people try to let on it is. And
Speaker 4: also remember Blazing Saddles punches up, not down, so I
Speaker 4: think it it would still play with exception a couple
Speaker 4: of things. And The Producers is his other masters. The
Speaker 4: Producers is just piss funny. It's so good that I
Speaker 4: still haven't seen the musical read and I'm like, why
Speaker 4: why do I need to see Nathan Lane and Matthew
Speaker 4: Broder What I got zero freaking mostelle and Gene Wilder
Speaker 4: being amazing. And I'm a huge Nathan Lane fan. I
Speaker 4: think Nathan Lane the funniest guy's ever made. But that
Speaker 4: original movie. When I saw that at sixteen, I was busy.
Speaker 3: It is a masterpiece. And I was a projectionist at
Speaker 3: a movie theater that was showing The Producers the remake,
Speaker 3: the musical remake, And I've seen about thirty seconds of it.
Speaker 3: It played for a couple of weeks at least, but
Speaker 3: I could not bear to watch more than a few
Speaker 3: frames of it. It's just so tired. I'm Antonio. I'm
Speaker 3: not the kind of guy who says things should not
Speaker 3: be remade.
Speaker 5: Go for it.
Speaker 3: What's your take on the material? I'm dynasty it. But
Speaker 3: there's something inherently sad about mel Brooks recycling his material
Speaker 3: and turning it into comedy. God bless him, he turns
Speaker 3: it into this whole second life, third life, fifth life
Speaker 3: of his career. But I, yeah, I don't. You wouldn't
Speaker 3: remake Citizen Kane, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Now. I don't have a problem with him doing remakes
Speaker 4: of his music as the stuff as Broadway musicals, But
Speaker 4: I like that on the stage. There's no reason to
Speaker 4: make a movie version out of the stage. The movie's perfect.
Speaker 4: There's no reason to remake the movie if you want
Speaker 4: to relive the movie as a stage experience. I'm not
Speaker 4: unopposed to that. I think it's a little out of hand.
Speaker 4: I don't know why the hell is there back to.
Speaker 3: The future but a beach back to the future is that's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But the producers I think lends itself, okay to
Speaker 4: a musical reinterpretation, because with some musicals they begin with
Speaker 4: so okay, on the stage, it's cool. I would like
Speaker 4: to play, you know, in that musical on stage as
Speaker 4: an actor, it's great. But as a movie, no, why
Speaker 4: the movie's flawless. And here's another thing too, it's a
Speaker 4: pretty movie. The production value, the cinematography, the direction of
Speaker 4: the producers is high quality, pretty good movie making. I'm
Speaker 4: not even gonna get into how good Young Frankenstein is.
Speaker 4: Young frankensd has that cinematography in it which is just
Speaker 4: mind blowingly beautiful, and all those original sets and stuff.
Speaker 4: It's just gorgeous and blazing. Saddles is a good looking
Speaker 4: movie too. It's shot very traditionally, like an old western.
Speaker 4: By the time we get to our movie, the production
Speaker 4: value isn't as nice. I feel like they're not spending
Speaker 4: the money on this movie that they were on some
Speaker 4: of his other pieces, like in the We'll get to it,
Speaker 4: but for example, the Inquisition musical number. It's great and
Speaker 4: there's a lot going on, but some of it just
Speaker 4: looks like they're clearly on his own state. But it's not.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's the intent.
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, I don't think he was. Brooks
Speaker 3: has never been afraid of showing the artifice back then. Yeah,
Speaker 3: not only the inquisition sequence. Take the opening sequence of
Speaker 3: the Stone Age. That's just a fucking painted backdrop.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess to a certain aggrace, he's not
Speaker 4: afraid of showing it. But like his work in the
Speaker 4: seventies is so much more dynamic and there's more care
Speaker 4: into the filmmaking than and this one's a little you.
Speaker 3: Know what, I agree with you, But in those cases
Speaker 3: other than the producers, because that was his own thing.
Speaker 3: But once he got into parody, he had a target
Speaker 3: he was aiming at, and so there was a style
Speaker 3: of filmmaking that he could ape in a way, and
Speaker 3: he's a very very good mimic of those styles. But
Speaker 3: when it came to History of the World Part one,
Speaker 3: what is he supposed to do here? He's left to
Speaker 3: his own devices, And each of these segments is so
Speaker 3: different than the previous.
Speaker 4: If I had been going to be like, oh, I'm
Speaker 4: five directed, But if I had been directing it, I
Speaker 4: would have my goal would have been, Okay, I've got
Speaker 4: nine vignettes or whatever, eighty five or six vignettes in
Speaker 4: this movie. I am going to shoot each vignette like
Speaker 4: the period pe, like a period piece from that genre.
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't have stopped making. I would have shut
Speaker 4: the thing, just like Kubrick for the the opening. I
Speaker 4: would have looked at Barry Linden for the Revolution stuff
Speaker 4: for the Napoleonic Air like I would have like, really, God,
Speaker 4: have gone out of the way. But that's who I am.
Speaker 4: He's just gonna get the joke across. They're not spending
Speaker 4: the money, They're trying to get the thing out by June.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not look in some cases, I think the
Speaker 3: jokes aren't landing the way they used to, and he's
Speaker 3: cannibalizing himself a lot here. But it is also the
Speaker 3: matter of the budget. I think by nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 3: it's crazy to think, because he has such a fucking
Speaker 3: huge run during the nineteen seventies that by eighty one,
Speaker 3: three or four years later, they're just going, yeah, you
Speaker 3: can have it this month. You can have ten million
Speaker 3: for this one, and like he had received ten million
Speaker 3: for the previous and the one before that, and it's inflation. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he was greedily seeking.
Speaker 4: No, not at all. I like, so, is there a
Speaker 4: like a six to seven year break between this and Spaceballs?
Speaker 3: It's four years between High Anxiety, which didn't do as
Speaker 3: well as Silent Movie, which didn't do as well as
Speaker 3: Young Frankenstein, until History of the World Part one, and
Speaker 3: then it is an additional six years still Spaceball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I did this make money?
Speaker 3: This did. It was a budget of ten million, It
Speaker 3: pulled in thirty. So you figure even if they spent
Speaker 3: the exact same amount on advertising, it's still made ten
Speaker 3: million dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah. They probably spent fifteen on advertising, five on advertising.
Speaker 3: Back ten so that's a real big success. This is
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 4: That's what Star Wars ten million dollars.
Speaker 3: In seventy six.
Speaker 4: In seventy six, Wow, Burr strikes Back.
Speaker 3: Cost like fifty so and they have a big space
Speaker 3: battle in this.
Speaker 4: They sure do it, and it's actually a pretty good
Speaker 4: space battle. I just watched it this afternoon again, like, well,
Speaker 4: that's actually pretty good. You definitely see space Balls there.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I was young enough that when I saw
Speaker 3: the Fink preview at the end of this movie that
Speaker 3: I thought it was serious.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that and basically every other kid who watched it.
Speaker 4: Did they did they include that the sequelized serial.
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I watched maybe half an episode
Speaker 3: and decided, I'm I don't want to tarnish damage. I
Speaker 3: don't want to touch them. I did watch it, Oh okay, I.
Speaker 4: Got through it. I remember, I enjoyed it. But there
Speaker 4: was too much of it. It was just too much
Speaker 4: of it, Like you're gonna stretch out a ninety minute
Speaker 4: movie or a hundred minute movie into six or seven, eight,
Speaker 4: nine half hour episodes? Are you mad? And they like
Speaker 4: they would repeat the skits, so the skits would come back, like,
Speaker 4: why are you redoing this skit? You gotta just cut
Speaker 4: an episode. I feel like making it a streaming show sucks,
Speaker 4: and that when they do that with a lot of
Speaker 4: these things, and they make sequels out of old pictures
Speaker 4: and stuff. But it's a streaming show. Now, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: but now you've got too much information. It's a comedy.
Speaker 4: You don't need that in a comedy. You want to
Speaker 4: comedies you should be able to go back and rewatch
Speaker 4: a thousand times and memorize. That's half the fun, and
Speaker 4: memorize the lines quote them with your friends and stuff.
Speaker 4: I go around and saying, think it's good to be
Speaker 4: the king. Why because I've seen there's gona be a
Speaker 4: bunch of times and everybody knows that reference, you know.
Speaker 3: My feeling with that sequel series was that when you
Speaker 3: look back at the original film as hack as some
Speaker 3: of the jokes are as silly, or maybe some lines
Speaker 3: don't land, some do, all of that dialogue was written
Speaker 3: down by mel Brooks, probably rewritten and rewritten, and then
Speaker 3: brought to the set where actors interpreted it. I got
Speaker 3: the feeling with that series that they're following the appeto
Speaker 3: method of we've got an idea here and now let's
Speaker 3: just play, and we're getting the let's just play takes.
Speaker 4: So I've, as the audience may have heard, I've directed
Speaker 4: a couple of things, feature a bunch of shorts, and
Speaker 4: we just did a forty eight hour film fest a
Speaker 4: few months ago with our movie called dead Listing. You
Speaker 4: can find it on YouTube, and I shot it in
Speaker 4: the appetite. That's how I did it, because I had
Speaker 4: three hours to get a script together and that so
Speaker 4: my writing partner we brought in another writer to help
Speaker 4: us out and produce it, and we got a script
Speaker 4: by the end of the night, and I just cast
Speaker 4: actors that I knew were fun because the script I
Speaker 4: got was shit not shit. It was pretty good. It
Speaker 4: was well structured, the places, the things, the gags were
Speaker 4: in there, but the jokes weren't really there, and I
Speaker 4: relied on my actors that do it, and the couple
Speaker 4: of actors in it that are really funny were really delivered,
Speaker 4: and the other folks were just more traditional. Give me
Speaker 4: some lines and I'll read them. Actors don't give you
Speaker 4: the same kind of performance. They all get great performances,
Speaker 4: but you get different levels because you got to have
Speaker 4: a trained comic.
Speaker 1: To do these things.
Speaker 4: And I don't know anybody who's funnier than mel Brooks
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy something, So I don't know that. Being said,
Speaker 4: it was chaos to shoot like that, and you really
Speaker 4: got to have strong actors, and you've really got to
Speaker 4: spend your time in the editing. It's writing in reverse.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm a fan of doing both, to
Speaker 4: be honest with you, I want to go in there
Speaker 4: with a funny script and then have my funny actors
Speaker 4: make what I wrote funnier.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not discounting the method. I'm just saying, like
Speaker 3: the jarring styles was just another kind of trigger for
Speaker 3: me to turn the damn thing off.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're absolutely right, because the folks in it
Speaker 4: were a lot of the actors in it were a
Speaker 4: lot of the improvs, the improv tradition, and a lot
Speaker 4: of groundlings of there and a lot of Second City
Speaker 4: folks and Ike Barenholtz who's from Mad TV's Great Improv Guy.
Speaker 4: And Nick Krall is another one who I think is
Speaker 4: hilarious and I think his show is hilarious. But the
Speaker 4: what's the show? Big Mouth funnier than shit? But big
Speaker 4: Mouth suffers the same thing that The History of the
Speaker 4: World Part two suffer, just.
Speaker 3: Too much of it, like ultimately comes down to judicial editing.
Speaker 3: I would think, yeah, it no need every.
Speaker 4: Joke, guys, brevity is the solo whit too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: By comparison, History of the World Part one is ninety minutes.
Speaker 4: And it's ninety minutes that are all pretty solid. Some
Speaker 4: of it's a little dated. I'm gonna even get to this.
Speaker 4: They lean way heavy into the gay jokes in this one,
Speaker 4: more than in Blazing Saddles, and I can argue in
Speaker 4: Blazing Saddles, actually they play better, like it's not as
Speaker 4: mean spirited.
Speaker 3: And say why Because in Blazing Saddles, when people would
Speaker 3: level criticisms at Brooks or say the Zucker Abram Zucker guys,
Speaker 3: or even Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the answer is always, well,
Speaker 3: they're making fun of literally everyone, Like everyone is a target,
Speaker 3: so you can't get upset when it's your group being attacked,
Speaker 3: and Blazing Saddles feels that way. It feels like you're
Speaker 3: all our target, whereas this movie doesn't seem to be
Speaker 3: taking anyone on. It's just a series of jokes and
Speaker 3: on occasion, hey look at the fags.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's what I got to And another thing again
Speaker 4: in Blazing Saddles, I don't find it as mean spirited.
Speaker 4: Yeah there's the fag joke so to speak, not to
Speaker 4: like use for such boorish language, but there there's the
Speaker 4: the musical number calm girls, let's get them. But I
Speaker 4: feel like they cast gay dudes to do that, and
Speaker 4: I feel like they're in on the joke a little bit,
Speaker 4: and it's more of a spoof of the Broadway Line
Speaker 4: than of the being like, hey, look at.
Speaker 3: The fags again. You know what comedy as always do
Speaker 3: you trust who's telling you the joke? So intent? You
Speaker 3: got to know their intent, right. I don't think if
Speaker 3: I tuned in and heard Mark Marin saying he was
Speaker 3: voting for Trump, I would know that he was joking.
Speaker 3: I would know he was being iron you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. There's no way and just the way I
Speaker 3: know that if he were to tell something completely off color,
Speaker 3: that maybe he's making some further point. So intention counts.
Speaker 3: But the other thing that really counts is it has
Speaker 3: to be fucking funny.
Speaker 4: That's actually in my notes in the Rome sequence I
Speaker 4: wrote that's probably the difference is Blazing Saddles. The jokes
Speaker 4: were funny. When the stunt man gets into the Tulsa
Speaker 4: with the dancer and they go behind the thing and
Speaker 4: come out, he's like, I'm not part by the commissary
Speaker 4: and he's got his arm around him. That joke, that
Speaker 4: joke eight, as the kids would say today, that is
Speaker 4: a solid hilarious joke. But in this movie it's just
Speaker 4: I'm saying blah blah blah, and the fag over here,
Speaker 4: I'm just like, wait, there's no context. It's mean spirited,
Speaker 4: it's not punching up so like I.
Speaker 3: Don't because he's already that caricature. He's mincing and lisping,
Speaker 3: and he's so gay, and then it's and then like
Speaker 3: the cherry on top, the little fag gets it. Come on,
Speaker 3: mel calm down.
Speaker 4: Mel Brooks couldn't have said twinkle toes. That might even
Speaker 4: might have played a little better. I don't know. Also,
Speaker 4: a lot a lot of tho stuff in this picture
Speaker 4: doesn't play as well. I think he's starting to show
Speaker 4: his age a little bit, and like his uncoolness, I
Speaker 4: guess it's starting to show up a little bit. There's
Speaker 4: a note I have in here about all the old
Speaker 4: tiny comics in it, like, I never realized how unfunny
Speaker 4: so many of.
Speaker 3: Them oalking about Sid Caesar and Shaky Greening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and who's the guy with the and doing back
Speaker 4: and it's just so his whole gag is making fart noises. Really,
Speaker 4: you were a comedian that had a long career doing that,
Speaker 4: and Sid Caesar and Soupy Sales, Oh my god, just
Speaker 4: these guys are not funny. I guess these are all
Speaker 4: dudes he worked with when he was coming up, your
Speaker 4: Show of Shows and.
Speaker 3: That type of Yeah, I mean that very famously. Your
Speaker 3: Show of Shows was Melbrook's first professional writing career, and
Speaker 3: on the staff was Carl Reiner and Woody Allen and
Speaker 3: Neil Simon and creator of the Waltons, and it was
Speaker 3: just it was an insane fucking group of people. So yeah,
Speaker 3: he's he. I think always felt behold and reverential to
Speaker 3: Sid Caesar, and Sid Caesar's appearance is okay. The problem
Speaker 3: is that nothing he's doing is funny. He's given really
Speaker 3: lame jokes.
Speaker 4: Is what is it? All those guys are like your
Speaker 4: Semitic super squad of silliness, your finest kid. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: finest comedian comedy writers of his generation. Mel Brooks is
Speaker 4: probably the funniest Carl writers. Prettyis funny. That Dick Van
Speaker 4: Dyke Show was pretty good. I used to watch that
Speaker 4: when I was little on Nigked Night and Neil Simon.
Speaker 4: I was a theater kid in high school, so I
Speaker 4: know Neil Simon never really did much for me though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Neil Simon I really enjoyed in my youth, and
Speaker 3: I thought it was so clever and witty, and the
Speaker 3: older I got, I was just like, it's just him
Speaker 3: talking to him. It's like Kevin Smith. It's just like
Speaker 3: the description I love of with Neil Simon's like a
Speaker 3: woodpecker sitting on either side of your head snapping away.
Speaker 4: At least Kevin Smith talks about Star Wars, and we said, okay,
Speaker 4: I've got a cultural reference here, and like Weed, okay,
Speaker 4: and Woody Allen. I like Annie Hall. I love Annie Hall,
Speaker 4: and that's about it.
Speaker 3: That's fair. I like some of the other stuff we like.
Speaker 3: We talked about him over on a previous episode of Antholos.
Speaker 3: He's attacked New York Stars. You can go back on
Speaker 3: this right where we spoke a bit about mister Allen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but of that group of people, I think mel Brooks
Speaker 3: is the one. I think one who's honestly had the
Speaker 3: greatest impact. Like, all of these guys have their places
Speaker 3: in comedy history, and certainly I think everyone else would
Speaker 3: say Woody Allen, the cognizanti of the comedic world, would
Speaker 3: probably say that he was a greater impact. But culturally,
Speaker 3: like I don't know Melbrook's brand of humor, that silliness,
Speaker 3: smart silliness, like just I don't know. You can't overestimate
Speaker 3: his impact on the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and wo Woody Allen I think had the bigger
Speaker 4: initial impact, you know what I mean with his many
Speaker 4: like Melbrooks had oscars as well, so they're both equally
Speaker 4: critically acclaimed, so to speak. I think the high brown
Speaker 4: nature of everybody, oh, Woody Allen, and then the years
Speaker 4: of him being a weirdo and a seam bed wainsize
Speaker 4: like Cuban saying, a shameless kind of guy, and all
Speaker 4: his allegations and everything, I think his cultural impact has lessened.
Speaker 4: Mel Brooks has always just remained relatively in the ether somehow,
Speaker 4: Like people revisit his movies and stuff like they're making
Speaker 4: I just read Josh Kad's Out of the Spaceballs too.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, based on the sequel Star Wars movies a
Speaker 4: little bit. Yeah, five or six years a little late,
Speaker 4: but yeah, he's doing that in the History of the
Speaker 4: World Part two.
Speaker 3: Baseball's was also a decade late. That was the problem.
Speaker 3: If you remember when it came out, it was like,
Speaker 3: but now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they should have come out in nineteen eighty two,
Speaker 4: not nineteen eighty seven or eighty eight or everything. Although
Speaker 4: I do think Spaceballs is the strongest of his eighties
Speaker 4: and nineties his later directing career for sure, because I
Speaker 4: think by the time you get to Robin hood Men
Speaker 4: in tights Man, the jokes are really stale. And there
Speaker 4: are points in that movie where they tell the joke
Speaker 4: and the editor waits for the audience to laugh and
Speaker 4: then makes the cut, and the pacing is just not great.
Speaker 3: The Twelve Chairs is also a really good movie. It's
Speaker 3: not on par with the producers Placing Saddles and Young Frankenstein,
Speaker 3: but that run right there, Producers, Twelve Chairs, Blazing Saddles,
Speaker 3: Young Frankenstein. It's fucking unprecedented and nothing could nothing to
Speaker 3: live up to it. So and I like Silent Movie, okay.
Speaker 3: And I like High Anxiety Okay. I think everything after
Speaker 3: Young Frankenstein is hidden mess. And I'll agree with you
Speaker 3: that Spaceballs is probably the most effective of any of
Speaker 3: it because it's the most streamlined and it has a
Speaker 3: story to hang all of the gags on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the gags are good. I think when you
Speaker 4: know you're twelve, they're better because it definitely he made
Speaker 4: a comedy for his kid.
Speaker 3: What's the Matter? Colonel Sanders Chicken doesn't really ring quite
Speaker 3: as humorous to me.
Speaker 4: Now, But I think he made a movie for his kid,
Speaker 4: because his kids about my age or your age in
Speaker 4: that neighborhood. And I'm sure he's like, I want to
Speaker 4: make something my boy can watch. Maybe that's because I
Speaker 4: think the jokes are funny, and as a Star Wars
Speaker 4: and Star Trek fan, it's always going to be sweet
Speaker 4: to is a sweet spot for me, that movie. But
Speaker 4: it's still some of it.
Speaker 3: I'd say most of it is dated. Yeah, but it
Speaker 3: has John Candy and you can't go wrong with mister
Speaker 3: John Candy.
Speaker 4: And you can't go wrong with mister Rick mor.
Speaker 3: Oh No, not at all. Always great. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: There's just quite a bit to recommend that movie. I'm
Speaker 3: hard on and I should probably revisit it before I
Speaker 3: open my mouth.
Speaker 4: I wonder if they'll be able to coax Rick Moranas
Speaker 4: out of retirement for that Space full seat.
Speaker 3: That would be the fucking get of all time, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that would be like getting the Emperor back unexpectedly.
Speaker 4: Somehow Rick moranis returned.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be pretty great. Oh my god. You know
Speaker 3: what if Josh Gatt, if you can do that, I'll
Speaker 3: go see the movie. I will do my best to
Speaker 3: promote the movie. Okay, let's dive into this movie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: as it is our first segment, our first first segment.
Speaker 3: I'll say about two years ago I attempted to show
Speaker 3: this to someone who had never seen it. We got
Speaker 3: to about the first scene and they were like, is
Speaker 3: this going to be it? And I said yeah, pretty
Speaker 3: much and they were like, I'm good. And I agreed
Speaker 3: with them then, because it's a Kubrick parody, it's a
Speaker 3: two thousand and one parody. Again, a little late for
Speaker 3: a two thousand and one party. This is nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 3: That movie's twelve years old by now, but nevertheless, go
Speaker 3: for it. What we get instead of the moonwatcher throwing
Speaker 3: his bone into the sky turning into a spaceship, we
Speaker 3: have all of man becoming erect, figuring out their erect
Speaker 3: and then jerking themselves off.
Speaker 4: Yes, my first note on my phone here is jack off.
Speaker 3: Kubrick, jack off Cooprick. If it had in any way
Speaker 3: appeared that any one of those poorly suited men were
Speaker 3: actually jerking off, I'd give this scene a pass. But
Speaker 3: it's like watching a bunch of children, like a bunch
Speaker 3: of twelve year olds who are being naughty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird, it's not very funny, and I think
Speaker 4: jack Off Kubrick sounds like a dead Milkman song. But
Speaker 4: you know, and and so it brings us to the
Speaker 4: stone age, right, but it's still pretty I love everybody
Speaker 4: loves that opening of two thousand and one. Man, Just
Speaker 4: if you guys would have watched two thousand and one
Speaker 4: and aped the movie a little more and the quality
Speaker 4: of that movie a little more that I think the
Speaker 4: jokes might have played a little better. And you're right
Speaker 4: if they actually they were beating it whatever that.
Speaker 3: And I'll say this in nineteen seventy four before Kentucky
Speaker 3: Fried movie hit the scene, The Groove Tube. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: and the last third of the Groove Tube is a
Speaker 3: two thousand and one parody, or at least a portion
Speaker 3: of that movie. Is this two thousand and one parody
Speaker 3: and it's it's the ground's been covered?
Speaker 4: Is that the movie that has got Bill Murray as
Speaker 4: the clown in it?
Speaker 3: No, that's quick change, no.
Speaker 4: No from but like him hosting like a kid show
Speaker 4: or no, it's.
Speaker 3: Not Bill Murray, But that is the movie that's the
Speaker 3: director actually playing that part of chevy Chase is in
Speaker 3: the movie because Chevy Chase was part of that original comedy.
Speaker 4: True. Is that also the picture where the guy runs
Speaker 4: into the into the black neighborhood and screams the N word?
Speaker 3: And no, that's Kentucky Fried movie, Tucky Fried movie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the Something thrill Seeker.
Speaker 4: Which is the one that ends with the guy getting
Speaker 4: chased by the titties jumping off them.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that is Monty Python's meaning of life.
Speaker 4: Oh that's man, that's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 4: listening with the idology movies, these comedies, he all blend
Speaker 4: into each other.
Speaker 3: Or all over the anthological landscape. We get to the
Speaker 3: stone age, bro stone Agent. Okay, we just see the
Speaker 3: major inventions, the inventions of fire, the invention of art,
Speaker 3: the invention of weapons, the invention of marriage, gay joke.
Speaker 4: Gay joke, and of course wars and Wells.
Speaker 3: Who evidently was hired for five days, was to be
Speaker 3: paid five thousand dollars a day, was paid upfront, came in,
Speaker 3: recorded everything in a few hours, and left.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I had that note too, orson Wells remaining the coolest
Speaker 4: white dude ever.
Speaker 3: Just I love man. I listened to some of those
Speaker 3: old out take tapes of him being petulant and drunk.
Speaker 6: Why I just did it right. Look, I'm not used
Speaker 6: to having more than one person in there. One more
Speaker 6: word out of you and you go.
Speaker 3: Is that clear? Yes?
Speaker 6: I take I take direction from one person under protest,
Speaker 6: but from two I don't said. Still, but who the
Speaker 6: hell are you anyway? Well, why the hell are you
Speaker 6: asking me for another one?
Speaker 1: Just one law? Yeah, it was mindful.
Speaker 4: I should I said in July, if you can leave
Speaker 4: every July.
Speaker 3: You didn't say it.
Speaker 4: He said it.
Speaker 3: Your friend every July.
Speaker 1: So aw, no, you don't really mean every jewel.
Speaker 4: But that's the best bad copy.
Speaker 3: It's in July. Of course, it's every joy. It's too
Speaker 3: much directing around you, and all I can think is
Speaker 3: good for you. Man, you know what? You're right? This
Speaker 3: guy from Bird's Eye Frozen Vegetables is directing. He shouldn't
Speaker 3: be directing you. He should shut his mouth.
Speaker 4: The poor guy got the shaft his entire career, made
Speaker 4: the greatest movie all of all time, kept making these
Speaker 4: masterpieces that studios are just burying, stiffing him on recutting,
Speaker 4: like how do you recut Touch of Evil? Touch of
Speaker 4: evil is fucking believable. How good that movie is. And yeah,
Speaker 4: it's got Charlton Hesson of the Mexican and somebody's like,
Speaker 4: all right, fine, I'm stuck with his asshole. I'll make
Speaker 4: it work. And he made it work.
Speaker 3: And you know what, Heston worked against it because he
Speaker 3: doesn't do the fucking accent. Yeah, so like he knew
Speaker 3: he was miscast, but he wanted that movie and it's
Speaker 3: he's He's the reason. He's the reason Wells got on
Speaker 3: it in the first.
Speaker 4: Place because he wanted to work with Wells right, hired.
Speaker 3: Him to rewrite it and then was like, now I
Speaker 3: think he should direct it. This is his script. So yes,
Speaker 3: he was basically the one who's rammed him through the
Speaker 3: studio system to get him there. Yeah, it would have
Speaker 3: been better with a Mexican actor, but fucking there wouldn't
Speaker 3: be a movie without it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just that movie like Nowhere to Go But
Speaker 4: Lady from Shanghai.
Speaker 3: Every time you and I fucking talk about Arson Wells,
Speaker 3: I end up rewatching that flick.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh do you really?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah? A Touch of Evil is just fucking it's
Speaker 3: the look you can say. Citizen Case is the best
Speaker 3: movie of all the time. You could say it's his
Speaker 3: best movie. It's not. This Touch of Evil is pure cinema, man,
Speaker 3: it's just whoo, let's go.
Speaker 4: I feel that way about Lady from Shanghais.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the other one. That's my other favorite.
Speaker 3: The final sequence alone, never mind the other preceding night
Speaker 3: ninety or so minutes and how.
Speaker 4: Many times has that sequence been ripped off over and over?
Speaker 3: Just every sequence the man came up with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bruce Lee at the end of Enter the Dragon,
Speaker 4: it's that sequence and the Dark Knight fucking returns Batman
Speaker 4: chases the Joker and is the same fucking sequence. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's just doing what we gotta do. An Orson and
Speaker 4: Wealth podcast evidently, Yeah, the university had a bunch of
Speaker 4: I'm from I graduated from U ANDOV and it's a
Speaker 4: really good program now too, if you want to study cinema.
Speaker 4: We had a lot of stuff in their archives with
Speaker 4: his daughter, Beatrice Wells lived here for a very long
Speaker 4: time and had a car dealership. Did not know that, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they sure did, so. A lot of there is an
Speaker 4: Orson Wealth presence here in Vegas in a history because
Speaker 4: of her. Basically, yes, ah, the French.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, back to the fucking stone We're
Speaker 3: moving on. I don't know before you go this.
Speaker 4: From the Stone Age. The one thing that does play
Speaker 4: at the Stone Age We're just interesting is that it
Speaker 4: plays like a tex savery exactly like a tex Savy cartoon,
Speaker 4: one of the Automobile of the Future or House of
Speaker 4: the Future sequences, where it's like here the Man of
Speaker 4: the Future does is the Man of the Stone Age
Speaker 4: discovers fire and then the guy goes there's the gag,
Speaker 4: and there's the gag, and there's the gag and it's cool.
Speaker 4: It goes on too long, and since he'sar just isn't
Speaker 4: funny anymore. But surprisingly buff Yeah, yeah, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 4: that guy's like sixty. It looked pretty good, but yeah,
Speaker 4: not very funny though.
Speaker 3: Since you brought up text Avery, that actually reminds me
Speaker 3: of the world's first criminal that he did a short
Speaker 3: that was about a like Texas in the Stone Age
Speaker 3: and all these cavemen were cowboys and they were riding
Speaker 3: on dinosaurs. Do you remember this?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. I haven't seen that cartoon probably
Speaker 4: since I was fifteen or something, but remember.
Speaker 3: That it's all narrated by this guy who's letting. It's
Speaker 3: this drawling text avery type character as lenning the entire
Speaker 3: story and at the end that it's all It shows
Speaker 3: you at the beginning like modern Dallas, and then this
Speaker 3: old like stone hewn hewn from the stone jail, and
Speaker 3: at the end it goes back there and the caveman
Speaker 3: comes to the door and he says, when you're all
Speaker 3: going to let me out of here? It's like a
Speaker 3: typical kind of textavery ending. But now that you've mentioned that,
Speaker 3: it makes me not like this sequence at all.
Speaker 4: Because it's not as funny as something in tex Savery
Speaker 4: would have done. Yeah, and it's kind of limited and
Speaker 4: the gags just.
Speaker 3: Aren't very poor, provocatively poor. But moving on, Oh to
Speaker 3: the Old Testament.
Speaker 4: And Moses and his evolving accent throughout the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's very hebrew here, it's very Hebrewic.
Speaker 4: But he loses it halfway through the scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and apparently it's a pickup like they had this.
Speaker 3: Now it's just the Stone Age set, And Brooks said
Speaker 3: he was thinking, like we were just going from the
Speaker 3: Stone Age straight to the Roman Empire? Is there nothing
Speaker 3: in between? Is no joke I can make, and knowing
Speaker 3: he had the set, he was like, well, oh okay,
Speaker 3: here's one.
Speaker 4: That's a funny gag. Though these fifty ten comments. See
Speaker 4: that's one thing about this movie though Yet a lot
Speaker 4: of the jokes are stupid, But so many of the
Speaker 4: jokes they're just so timeless and perfect and just so
Speaker 4: on the ball, like they're just oh man, they're really good.
Speaker 3: The other commandments are don't impregnate, don't laugh, don't buy,
Speaker 3: and don't break. That's pretty good, Easter egg. That's as
Speaker 3: funny as anything else in this movie.
Speaker 4: O kid, Yeah, that's pretty good man.
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, so now that's the Old Testament? Basically,
Speaker 3: what are you going to do? Carl Reiner as the
Speaker 3: voice of God? There By the way that was I
Speaker 3: have that note?
Speaker 4: Is that Carl, and I think it's a playback, a
Speaker 4: call back to the two thousand year old man to
Speaker 4: the same interview process.
Speaker 3: Yeah, two thousand percent.
Speaker 4: But the Carl Reiners delivery is God is just hilarious. Moses,
Speaker 4: like he's talking.
Speaker 3: To his son exactly. It's perfect. Okay. When we get
Speaker 3: to Rome, here's a boring autobiographical pause. I was dating
Speaker 3: a girl in college who did a semester abroad and
Speaker 3: did it in Rome. I made her a mixtape that
Speaker 3: began with this Orson Wells narration.
Speaker 8: Rooms of Civilization Rome and then leading straight into the
Speaker 8: columns Gets your Columns here, Gets Your Columns, and then
Speaker 8: followed immediately by in the Coliseum by Tom Waits.
Speaker 3: I'm still proud of that mixtape to this day. Clearly,
Speaker 3: even though it's thirty years later.
Speaker 4: That is pretty good. That delivery he is that too,
Speaker 4: is just it's like a commercial room.
Speaker 3: Oh, ro it's it is. It makes the movie grand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Orson Wells for you. He made the Transformers great,
Speaker 4: anything grand. He made fish sticks.
Speaker 3: Great, like the most putrid wine available suddenly became appealing
Speaker 3: or not appetizing, not ultimately.
Speaker 4: And those jokes were playing to little kids ten twenty
Speaker 4: years later on the Animaniacs making and people still laughing
Speaker 4: at him. Orsen Wells has a great impact. I'm glad
Speaker 4: people still talk.
Speaker 3: Evidently loved Pink's hot Dogs. I am not surprised by
Speaker 3: that at all, not at all either. They're fucking great.
Speaker 3: Okay anyway, Rome, this is where we finally get an
Speaker 3: actual character, an actual someone to follow This isn't just
Speaker 3: a sketch up to now, it's just been little blackout
Speaker 3: sketches effectively with Wells narrating for us. Here we're getting
Speaker 3: our first character, Comicus, the stand up philosopher played by
Speaker 3: mel Brooks. Who's on the Who's on welfare? Because did
Speaker 3: you try and bullshit today?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: The great b Arthur, the Arthur, my.
Speaker 4: God, just the queen of dead pan. No buddy, more
Speaker 4: dead pan than that woman, Just so dry, such great
Speaker 4: and so tall.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ron Carey, who is like a frequent mel Brooks guy,
Speaker 3: playing Swiftest his agent little pun on Swifty Lazaar love
Speaker 3: it which.
Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna get that job. No nobody under the age
Speaker 4: of forty might get that joke. Swiftly Lazar was this
Speaker 4: legendary Hollywood agent known for being one hundred thousand years
Speaker 4: old and.
Speaker 3: Having giant He that character, even though people won't remember
Speaker 3: his basis, the line he delivers early on has impacted
Speaker 3: the way I think about this word. If I see
Speaker 3: somebody refer to something as it being nuts, my mind
Speaker 3: will immediately fill in afterwards. Envts nuts Buck You Brooks
Speaker 3: for writing that line and sticking it in here. God
Speaker 3: damn it.
Speaker 4: This opening sequence is just filled with jokes like that
Speaker 4: a bunch of little Easter egg jokes, the Temple of Arrows,
Speaker 4: buffet and Orgy the first Served, First Come. That's pretty good,
Speaker 4: and then all the v's everywhere.
Speaker 3: And Pat McCormick exhorting the the benefits of plumbing hump
Speaker 3: the shit right out of your house.
Speaker 4: Now, that's an old, tiny comedian who's funnier than shit.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 4: Pat McCormick is a funny, funny dude.
Speaker 3: He's funny in this movie.
Speaker 4: He's funny in this movie, and what a great and
Speaker 4: those are really good jokes too, like, those are some
Speaker 4: funny jokes and then they But Soupy Sales, on the
Speaker 4: other hand, is just like, where is any one of
Speaker 4: the vendors in there?
Speaker 3: I know that Charlie Callous is the soothsayer.
Speaker 4: Oh that's Charlie Kallius. I get him and Soupy Sales
Speaker 4: mixed up. Yeah that guy not very far No.
Speaker 3: But then it seems like you either liked Charlie Kallis
Speaker 3: or you didn't, and I never have. Yeah, he's just
Speaker 3: a goof you make funny faces. I get it, But
Speaker 3: there's like that.
Speaker 4: One comedian who is just this whole stick was just
Speaker 4: being drunk.
Speaker 3: Oof. Yes, his name has been stricken from my memory.
Speaker 4: Murdour maybe something like that.
Speaker 3: The whole was being drunk, and it was like this, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's painful because it's that Vaudeville drunk. Excuse me, mister
Speaker 3: and missus a whole this young girl.
Speaker 4: Somehow, Dean Martin played it better.
Speaker 3: But Dean Martin played it as a caricature of that
Speaker 3: character somehow.
Speaker 4: And Dean Martin's drunk wasn't so loaded. He was like
Speaker 4: he was tipsy.
Speaker 3: He was tipsy, Yeah, and that's funny. Tipsy is funny
Speaker 3: that the stagger drunk is not funny, But you know what,
Speaker 3: it may have been in a time where we weren't
Speaker 3: all terrified of alcohol alcoholics.
Speaker 4: And Dean Martin's will have the advantage of being a
Speaker 4: pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's army, very charming. Nothing he was doing
Speaker 3: in his drunk was not alarming, except for hitting on
Speaker 3: Adrian Barbo. Don't do that. That's only because she's mine.
Speaker 3: She's still kicking met her. I met her, Oh, I
Speaker 3: told her exactly how much I loved her. Yes, and
Speaker 3: I'm sure she was in retrospect how much I told
Speaker 3: her I loved her so fine, clean, tiny, my friend.
Speaker 4: Oh really, yes, like Ruth Gator Bader Ginsburg, tiny.
Speaker 3: Like to my chest, tiny, about the same height. And
Speaker 3: she yeah, it was startling, but still vava va voom,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Those actresses, at least for a few generations. It was
Speaker 4: really really really petite. That and all those actors are
Speaker 4: tiny too.
Speaker 3: That I met stallone was a shock when I met him.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. My sister, my late sister, Jasmine Wrestler, her
Speaker 4: biggest crush when she was a kid was still Ow
Speaker 4: the finest man ever. And when she worked at Caesar's later,
Speaker 4: she met him and had a chat with him, and
Speaker 4: she's like, Tony, he was short of them.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. When she met him, he was
Speaker 3: in elevator's shoes. I was That's what I came away with.
Speaker 3: I went, God, he's fucking short. And then it occurred
Speaker 3: to me, oh and he's in lifts. Good lord, he's
Speaker 3: a tiny man. Obviously, Like I wouldn't want to fight
Speaker 3: the guy or anything, but.
Speaker 4: I think in like in Rocky they had to say
Speaker 4: that Thunderlips was seven feet tall instead of six foot
Speaker 4: five because they wanted to make Rocky six feet tall
Speaker 4: or something like that.
Speaker 3: It's so still care.
Speaker 4: Anyways, back to the h Yeah.
Speaker 3: Comicast, the the stan up Philosopher gets gets the plumb
Speaker 3: of a gig playing Caesar's Palace and then cut to
Speaker 3: what was my favorite joke in this movie when I
Speaker 3: was a kid, and now that I live here, it
Speaker 3: really is my favorite joke where they cut to the
Speaker 3: chariots rolling up on the real Caesar's Palace here on
Speaker 3: the strip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's and it's the brand new they had just
Speaker 4: opened it to that part in that portion of Caesar's
Speaker 4: Palace where they like looked like, what a great gag?
Speaker 4: What a just a stupid, silly, awesome gag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just exactly. It's so simple, so fucking stupid.
Speaker 3: It makes me laugh every single time I see it.
Speaker 4: It's also got we got Gregory Hines showing up to here,
Speaker 4: like always liked you know what movie of his I
Speaker 4: love is? Uh the one with Billy Crystal, That cop.
Speaker 3: Movie Running Scared, the wildly underrated Running Scared.
Speaker 4: What a solid movie with the most two believable cops
Speaker 4: ever almost Oh, look, cops are just regular guys, and
Speaker 4: there you go. We're two regular guys being so funny.
Speaker 4: And the only movie where he doesn't do the little
Speaker 4: sand Dancer doesn't doesn't do any dancing in it, does he?
Speaker 3: He does zero dancing in it. Wow, But he does
Speaker 3: flip off that one kid, and that's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 4: Yes, Oh, what a shame we lost Gregory Heines too soon.
Speaker 4: He was a really talented dude and such a delightful act.
Speaker 3: We always end up mentioning the Cotton Clever, at least
Speaker 3: I do here. But yeah, everyone go back and watch
Speaker 3: The Cotton Club and Wants the Genius because there you
Speaker 3: get to see him dramatically and dancing the same with
Speaker 3: White Knights, the movie he did with Barish Nakas.
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good movie too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oof. He was so fucking talented. I love him. And
Speaker 3: a last minute replacement in this film.
Speaker 4: It was supposed to be Richard Pryor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, part was originally believed by Richard Pryor, but he
Speaker 3: had his accident, his freebasing lit himself on fire accident.
Speaker 4: I feel like they were star crossed lovers, those two,
Speaker 4: like they just can never get it to happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for those of you who don't know, we obviously
Speaker 3: Richard Pryor co wrote with Gene Wilder and mel Brooks
Speaker 3: Blazing Saddles with the intention of playing the lead, and
Speaker 3: the studio wouldn't approve him, and they got Clevean Little instead,
Speaker 3: and taking nothing away from Clevean Little, who's fucking great
Speaker 3: in that movie, but it is one of those could
Speaker 3: have been moments that Richard Pryor would have starred in
Speaker 3: that amazingly popular, fucking movie. He would have been a
Speaker 3: He was always a big star, but he would have
Speaker 3: been a fucking superstar at that point.
Speaker 4: And cleve On Little delivers a beautiful performance in that picture.
Speaker 3: But someone was lying the same heart that Clevean Little
Speaker 3: gave it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, cleve On Little gave it heart. And but some
Speaker 4: of those liner readings that you imagine Richard Pryor's So
Speaker 4: that scene with Madeline Cohn, Baby.
Speaker 3: We are not in Halvena, did we say, Madeline Cohn,
Speaker 3: she's at the She's at the palace playing Empress and info.
Speaker 3: Madeline conn Madeleine Kahn from my hometown in Revere, Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: Madelene Kahn.
Speaker 4: We should all take a moment to Revere. How amazing
Speaker 4: an actor made. Madeline conn could do anything what upstage anybody.
Speaker 4: She could sing, she could dance, and was the greatest
Speaker 4: comic actor of her time. She could just deliver anything, man,
Speaker 4: and still be fine as hell doing it. And to
Speaker 4: these voices and these characters, and nobody delivered a monologue
Speaker 4: like she did. She would find ways to deliver my
Speaker 4: head and it was come on, man, she was, Oh
Speaker 4: I still we got robbed of old lady Madeline khn.
Speaker 3: Isn't it a drag that she never got like a
Speaker 3: feature that was all hers?
Speaker 4: No, it's a crime she was. She steals every one
Speaker 4: of those damn friggin' Melbrooks movies out from everybody in it.
Speaker 3: She could have waltzed onto the cast of Saturday Night
Speaker 3: Live at any point on that show.
Speaker 4: I love her in Young Frankenstein is it's not such.
Speaker 4: It shouldn't be that funny of a part like like
Speaker 4: she shouldn't have the impact in that picture that she does.
Speaker 4: But the little bit she's on screen, she's amazing, and
Speaker 4: she's so charmingly unlikable.
Speaker 3: Two scenes in that movie, correct, we get to meet
Speaker 3: her at the beginning and then at the end, right
Speaker 3: at the end as the bride, right, oh, Freddy, when
Speaker 3: we first meet her and she's so off putting, just
Speaker 3: don't touch me, don't touch this, don't know the hair, darling.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so frustrating and hilarious simultaneously. How
Speaker 3: do you do that? I guess you have to be
Speaker 3: Madeline can helps that.
Speaker 4: That You've got Gene Wilder, who gives one of the
Speaker 4: great comic performances in that movie. I've auditioned with with
Speaker 4: his give My Creation Life, Live, Live, Live that one.
Speaker 4: And but at that point that movie, he's a puppy
Speaker 4: and he has an ability to deliver a puppy like
Speaker 4: performance and all of his stuff so innocent, so gentle,
Speaker 4: and it's just you want him to win? Are you
Speaker 4: really root and for me? Even in that movie where
Speaker 4: he's an arrogant jerk, app you still feel bad for
Speaker 4: him in that sea, like no one should ever be
Speaker 4: saddled of a partner and all, and just at the
Speaker 4: end she comes around again, so fine, just oh my god,
Speaker 4: with that Brida Francas and the way she.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not taking anything away from her decade
Speaker 3: later performance in Clue, because that look too yeah, talking
Speaker 3: about I'm just being a total pig here. I'm just
Speaker 3: fucking she was super fucking sexy in that mood.
Speaker 4: She's the best one in there. And that's a movie
Speaker 4: of all a list out of the park comic performances.
Speaker 4: She just steals it. Every time she talks like that.
Speaker 4: She is literally a mani and you see it in
Speaker 4: every shot of her inside of her eyes. She is insane, communicates.
Speaker 3: It so well.
Speaker 4: I'm so sad that she's gone. I'm thinking, man, can
Speaker 4: you imagine episodes of Kirby Enthusiasm, or can you imagine
Speaker 4: someone our age having, you know, grown up with her
Speaker 4: rediscovering and putting her in a starring vehicle as somebody's
Speaker 4: mom or grandma where it's like she has Yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 4: I feel like that about Gilda Randner tu to a
Speaker 4: certain degree. I like Madeline conno lot was I was
Speaker 4: always more attached to her, But another comic just like
Speaker 4: ripped from us just am like he's just wonderfully funny
Speaker 4: women just taken away too soon.
Speaker 3: She's given a musical sequence which we love for her
Speaker 3: or her in Melbrooks movies clearly because yeah, fucking it
Speaker 3: was so winning. In Blazing Saddles Lily von stuff. But
Speaker 3: what a character there and again here, like she's got
Speaker 3: one or two scenes and she just fucking commands every
Speaker 3: single one of them. You can't even really leave her
Speaker 3: in the back of a frame because your eyes are
Speaker 3: just drawn there.
Speaker 4: I know they horny, horny, funny lady. She plays a lot,
Speaker 4: but even men, she plays each one. She's Okay, I've
Speaker 4: got this kind of cliche character that I keep like, Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm an oversex woman. Oh she's still managing. Okay, I've
Speaker 4: got the stupid background. I am still gonna make a
Speaker 4: meal out of them, and I'm gonna take these came
Speaker 4: ingredients and I am gonna make a four starmuale like
Speaker 4: she could just take a little bit and the accents
Speaker 4: like really commanded for voice. Yeah, you can go on
Speaker 4: and on. There aren't men. There aren't men as good
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean. There aren't men actors
Speaker 4: that can do all of the stuff that she can do.
Speaker 4: I can't think of like Hugh Jackman maybe I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, but her, Yeah, no, not in versatility, but
Speaker 3: in the same sort of genuine, warm feeling I get
Speaker 3: about a performer that I get with Madeline. I also
Speaker 3: get with her scene partner, mister dom Delauise.
Speaker 4: Yes, to quote Tom Hanks as Dean Martin on Saturday
Speaker 4: Night Live, mister domb Dean Louie, Yes, Dom DeLuise, That
Speaker 4: have motherfucker made me laugh a lot. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: even on those terrible Cannonball Run movies, which I adored
Speaker 4: off a thousand times ago. Did he come out in
Speaker 4: that stupid costume? It's hidden?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I recently. By recently, I made maybe a
Speaker 3: year or two ago, was a guest on a podcast
Speaker 3: reviewing Cannonball Run and whatever. You pick a part in
Speaker 3: that movie, and there is a lot.
Speaker 4: There's a lot in that movie.
Speaker 3: You can't fault Dom DeLuise at any juncture. Everything he's
Speaker 3: doing is funny, everything enlightens the scene. I watched it
Speaker 3: with somebody who was much younger than me. It was
Speaker 3: just like, okay, if you say so, But I still
Speaker 3: felt the warm glow of the Deil Louise sun every
Speaker 3: time he's on screen. This might be his only performance
Speaker 3: where I don't like it, but that might be the
Speaker 3: point of the performance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, his performance in his character is so disgusting and
Speaker 4: so off putting and so unlikable, then I'm assuming it's
Speaker 4: on purpose.
Speaker 3: It absolutely has to. Is this Brooks like one upping
Speaker 3: the round the campfire fart scene? Like he's like, we
Speaker 3: need something schatological here, and we might as well make
Speaker 3: fun of the emperor because we represents all of the
Speaker 3: over indulgence in excess of ancient Rome. But we'll just
Speaker 3: wrap it up into this one guy. And Deluiz is
Speaker 3: obviously game to do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's up for anything for sure. Madeline Collin's reactions
Speaker 4: help this scene a lot. This scene has its moments.
Speaker 4: I do like his stand up routine is pretty funny.
Speaker 4: The Christians are so poor, they've only got what gods?
Speaker 3: How do you make a venet blind?
Speaker 4: What's the Joke's the punchline?
Speaker 3: No, that's it?
Speaker 4: Like this? Well yeah right, it's the point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, jab your finger set.
Speaker 4: But the next scene is funny.
Speaker 3: Are we talking about the is he or is he not?
Speaker 3: A Unix scene?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good scene. Who's the mark Antony Kennach comes?
Speaker 4: Who's that actor?
Speaker 3: Like, oh, that's shacky Green as much green, that's Marcus
Speaker 3: Vin Dix's Okay, I lumped him in with some of
Speaker 3: the earlier like comedy greats the Golden Age comedy guys
Speaker 3: as being completely unfunny. I think he's funny in this
Speaker 3: he's funny.
Speaker 4: And you know who else is funny is as little
Speaker 4: as his buddy, is his the extra that's like his
Speaker 4: lieutenant or whatever. There's a point where the guy where
Speaker 4: Sheky Green, is like gesturing to show the stuff off,
Speaker 4: and his guy is like aping them like the extra
Speaker 4: sy And it's hilarious because the look of the guy's
Speaker 4: face is fucking great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's yes, all that stuff's real good. But
Speaker 3: you know, we get the unix scene is here's our
Speaker 3: moment for TNA in this movie.
Speaker 4: I loved this scene when I was thirteen. I'll tell
Speaker 4: you what.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, so seems a bit tame now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very tame and a little long, very long.
Speaker 3: He goes through three guards. She does a full dance
Speaker 3: routine for three guards before she gets to Gregory. One
Speaker 3: would have been enough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the tong is yes.
Speaker 3: Of course. Again, Brooks constantly going back to the to
Speaker 3: the cartoon realm in this. But anytime you do a
Speaker 3: cartoon gag in a movie, it just makes me wish
Speaker 3: I was watching a cartoon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to pull off the Three Stooges do
Speaker 4: it really The Three Stooges managed to create a live
Speaker 4: action cartoon, I think very well, but it's hard to
Speaker 4: pull off that gag, especially when you start putting the
Speaker 4: sound effect.
Speaker 3: The wacky sound effects of the Death of Comedy. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you what. Our heroes basically have to escape the
Speaker 3: big roly joint thing that I don't know what's going
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 4: Oh, look, the black guy likes weed.
Speaker 3: Okay, the black likes weed. And the kids today they
Speaker 3: like the cheek and the chong, don't they.
Speaker 4: I feel like mel Brooks has never done anymore than
Speaker 4: have a cocktail. I don't think he gets weed humor.
Speaker 4: And when he does the cocaine it's the funny joke
Speaker 4: and he's like, oh the colors. I'm like, that's not okay.
Speaker 4: So the unuch joke too, is funny. Was there like
Speaker 4: a unique thing going on in the early eighties. I remember,
Speaker 4: like there's big there's like similar jokes in Ice Pirate.
Speaker 4: I think it's something else to them.
Speaker 3: A lot of must have been floating around. And then
Speaker 3: it's the detritus left by the by the ocean of
Speaker 3: National Lampoon magazine from the seven dies suddenly like a
Speaker 3: Unich is just a fucking joke.
Speaker 4: I just that must be it. But from there we
Speaker 4: go this is oh see Moses again?
Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, on the Universal tour, that's right, Oh
Speaker 3: my god.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: And even as a kid, because I'm sure you would
Speaker 3: see Universal on television it was in like every Universal
Speaker 3: produced sitcom would have a sequence where their kids or
Speaker 3: their family takes the trip and goes to Universal Studios.
Speaker 3: We've seen this gag a million times.
Speaker 4: It isn't it on the episode of The A Team too.
Speaker 3: I mean, like the A Team, I remember it on
Speaker 3: different strokes. I remember, you know, just hundreds of shows.
Speaker 3: Don't put this in the movie, mal, I mean it's
Speaker 3: a good gag. He held up because the gag afterwards,
Speaker 3: the son of a bitch, you bastard these kids did there.
Speaker 3: They don't let you live, they'll let you breathe like
Speaker 3: that has again just like NVTs nuts just banging around
Speaker 3: in my skull.
Speaker 4: That's a good gag. It's one of the better gags
Speaker 4: in the movies, the mostest part, at least now that
Speaker 4: movie history time. I guess that gag with the departing
Speaker 4: waters is from like the Silent ten Commandments, right, and
Speaker 4: it's a mini It's what it was. A miniature is
Speaker 4: what it was.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Well, there was the Silent ten Commandments that did it.
Speaker 3: But I think he's probably doing the cecilby the mill,
Speaker 3: big old Charlton Heston, let my people go.
Speaker 4: But the actual the device they use, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: It's it's an effect in both.
Speaker 4: But that actual effect that they use is the effect
Speaker 4: from the I just both. Well they mill did both
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the effect at Universal Studios was never used
Speaker 3: in any of them. Oh okay, but the idea was yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think I don't even think that it's based
Speaker 3: on I don't know if the riot is supposed to
Speaker 3: be replicating commandments at all. I think they're just trying
Speaker 3: to do some cool effect and they did it. I
Speaker 3: think they need to get their tram from one side
Speaker 3: to a lake to another. And somebody went, I know
Speaker 3: a way we can do it.
Speaker 4: That's fair. I, as a little kid, just assumed it
Speaker 4: was a.
Speaker 3: Oh I do too, and it probably is. I'm probably
Speaker 3: speaking or misspeaking here, and there's probably nerds right now
Speaker 3: going I what.
Speaker 4: But now we go to Judea.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it's always fucking bizarre to see John hurt
Speaker 3: and a mel Brooks movie. But he does it here,
Speaker 3: and he does it in space It made more sense
Speaker 3: for me seeing him in spaceballs, like oh, because he
Speaker 3: has that relationship because he was Jesus.
Speaker 4: Yes, but and then of course he's spoofing the alien
Speaker 4: so but but his Jesus. It's I love the scene
Speaker 4: as a Catholic school kid, this scene slaps and would
Speaker 4: you like a beverage? Try them? Won't white? I mean,
Speaker 4: that's what still goes.
Speaker 3: He betrayed me.
Speaker 4: Judas, it's so good. And the Leonardo coming in and
Speaker 4: doing the painting. All right, everybody, this is not gonna work.
Speaker 4: Everybody on the other side of the table. And it's
Speaker 4: really funny. I hope he just now holding the plate.
Speaker 3: With the cheesy ass the mighty art Metrono as Leonardo
Speaker 3: da Vinci. That's, by the way. I love the crazy
Speaker 3: anachronism of Leonardo da Vinci being at the Last Supper.
Speaker 4: Yes, of course that's the He's in police Academy too, right,
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Mauser, right.
Speaker 3: That's right. Yaosa Yaosa, mausa, Moosa.
Speaker 4: I got white bro I got the white browser.
Speaker 3: What are we gonna do? About this all right. I
Speaker 3: think the thing everyone remembers from this movie is the
Speaker 3: Next Sequences song.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Inquisition. Here we go, the Inquisition. I screwed
Speaker 4: up the song, but it's very, very funny.
Speaker 3: You're wishing they'd go away, but the Inquisition's here and
Speaker 3: it's here to stay.
Speaker 4: Really good jokes in that in that song. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's his big one of his big strengths. He's really
Speaker 4: good at him if they play great this one. It's
Speaker 4: a long scene, but it's okay. It's really freaking hilarious.
Speaker 3: The song is strong enough and then the strong enough.
Speaker 3: As you said, it's clearly set. Yeah, but it is
Speaker 3: an Esther Williams musical, which always looked like sets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they always do like sets, and I feel like
Speaker 4: they were using some pieces from Young Frankenstier.
Speaker 3: Too, a lot of the similar I guarantee you. Some
Speaker 3: of that set decoration was castle stuff from A.
Speaker 4: Great just a great number. It was hilarious. But I
Speaker 4: wanted to ask, was Jackie Mason like a big star
Speaker 4: or something in the seventies or.
Speaker 3: I would not call him a big star, but I feel.
Speaker 4: Popped up in things when I was a kid, and
Speaker 4: like he had a sitcom with The British Lady and
Speaker 4: then on The Simpsons.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and you can't forget his replacing Rodney Dangerfield
Speaker 3: and Caddy Shak two. I was trying to avoid that,
Speaker 3: directed by friend of the podcast, Alan Archist.
Speaker 4: He did Caddy Shak too. Wow, what a hard job
Speaker 4: man that was them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jackie Mason was a personality, I know. I mean
Speaker 3: he was a stand up, so he was getting play
Speaker 3: and I know he was on all the talk shows
Speaker 3: and everything. So but I can definitely see mel Brooks going, well,
Speaker 3: we need the jewyus jew Here.
Speaker 6: I'm sitting flicking chickens and I'm looking through the pickens
Speaker 6: and suddenly these guys breaked on my bulls.
Speaker 3: I didn't even load them, and.
Speaker 8: They couldn't called them, and they started playing pink punk
Speaker 8: with my bulls.
Speaker 3: Why theogony ooh the shame? You know, to make my
Speaker 3: pipe it's public fire game.
Speaker 4: That guy is every bad like stereotype almost with the boys.
Speaker 3: And yeah, well he made a big fucking career out
Speaker 3: of that, so he sure did.
Speaker 4: God bless him immortalize as Krusty the Clown's dead.
Speaker 3: Indeed, the other the other torture to jew in that sequence.
Speaker 3: Ron Graham, Ronnie Graham, who's a regular in the mel
Speaker 3: Brooks universe You're not to be, was in Spaceballs. He
Speaker 3: was the minister in Spaceball is trying to marry them.
Speaker 3: I wish that the slot machine joke. I wish the
Speaker 3: dummies hadn't looked quite so dummy? Is that nippicking?
Speaker 4: It's the eighties, nineteen eighty one. They figured out that
Speaker 4: nobody's going to be watching this up close on a
Speaker 4: high definition television fifty years from now or whatever.
Speaker 3: Though, yeah, maybe not. But then again, they went ahead
Speaker 3: and did They went ahead and bothered to put sparklers
Speaker 3: on top of the nuns, the swimming nuns.
Speaker 4: Which I noticed the girl, the main nun, has her
Speaker 4: eyes closed when she comes up.
Speaker 3: She does. It's a dead giveaway that's reversed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, thats the first time I'd ever noticed that.
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, wait a minute.
Speaker 3: Esther Williams wouldn't have done that.
Speaker 4: No, she neither would Scarlett Johanson, that's true. Who did
Speaker 4: that gag in Hail Caesar?
Speaker 3: Gotta watch that again, man, that's a great one.
Speaker 4: So it gets better, It gets better every time you
Speaker 4: watch it. The jokes just get funnier and funnier. That
Speaker 4: Channing Tatum sequence wasn't that funny the first time I
Speaker 4: saw it? And I'm like this to my life. That
Speaker 4: Channing Tatum sequence is like a.
Speaker 3: Bill brook Yes modern interpretation. That's okay. Look, you can't
Speaker 3: talk them out anything. I always love that. I love
Speaker 3: the whole song. Actually, it's very, very funny, in keeping
Speaker 3: with mel Brooks, taking the worst aspects that humanity has
Speaker 3: ever delivered and turning it on its head and making
Speaker 3: it a something we can ridicule and step back at
Speaker 3: and take some power back from. Because I'm sure nobody
Speaker 3: was really worried about the Spanish Inquisition Circle nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 3: but at least we can look back and get some
Speaker 3: bit of entertainment out of it.
Speaker 4: Well, this is a man who's been carrying a comb
Speaker 4: in his pocket eighty years, so he can make Hitler
Speaker 4: joke likes. He makes a great point. He's like, you've
Speaker 4: got to make fun of these people. You've got to
Speaker 4: make fun of the worst, because that takes, like you said,
Speaker 4: it takes away their power, it gives it back to you.
Speaker 4: You've got to make fun of asshole. That's the only
Speaker 4: way you can get through difficult.
Speaker 3: We're in a mel Brooks universe now, okay, speaking of
Speaker 3: the mel Brooks universe and the universe we're in now,
Speaker 3: our next segment is about the French Revolution.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, count the money for sure?
Speaker 3: De Monet. That's an okay, So call back to a
Speaker 3: joke from in a different way, the joke of Harvey
Speaker 3: Harvey Carman's Headley Lamar, which I'm sure is a joke
Speaker 3: completely lost on anyone watching that movie for the first time. Now,
Speaker 3: they're not gonna know who Hetdy Lamar is, never mind
Speaker 3: somebody confusing it with Headley.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the best they can do is, wasn't
Speaker 4: that a joke on Family Guys?
Speaker 3: The Count demon At character apparently was initially to be
Speaker 3: played by John Cleaes.
Speaker 4: Oh no, that would have been interesting.
Speaker 3: Due to a scheduling conflict, had to drop out. So
Speaker 3: Harvey Carmon mel Brooks Stalwart dropped in, and he's great here.
Speaker 3: This is one of his best performances. Actually, all of
Speaker 3: his performances in the Melbrooks movies sing in a way
Speaker 3: that I think television didn't allow him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Harvey Corman and mel Brooks it's a good pairing.
Speaker 4: He's a great villain in Blazing titles. He's so good
Speaker 4: and he's so hilarious. This one not so much. He's
Speaker 4: playing it a little too camp.
Speaker 3: They're all playing well, that's the thing. He's playing to
Speaker 3: what everyone else is doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just doesn't it doesn't work. And he's such
Speaker 4: a good straight man that it's a frustrated straight man.
Speaker 4: That's what Harvey Korman does best.
Speaker 3: No, and this is like the longest sequence. It feels
Speaker 3: like even if it's not Yeah, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 3: I don't connect with this. I never really have. It's
Speaker 3: just prints in the Pauper set against the French Revolution.
Speaker 3: So the Garson de piss the piss boy looks exactly
Speaker 3: like the king, and so they swapped places. Carrying on
Speaker 3: from the earlier discussion of dumb DeLuise that the sort
Speaker 3: of scatological and gross. This is gross in a whole
Speaker 3: different way. This one makes me feel gross about sex.
Speaker 3: It just makes me think it's icky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the humph death humph death wig. Of course, when
Speaker 4: I was a little kid we were doing all the time.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's I just know it's it doesn't really
Speaker 4: play very well. Count the money is the funniest joke
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 3: Don't get saucy with me, Brenets.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's pretty there's a lot of that, and like
Speaker 4: the end. Okay, here's some social commentary that the poor
Speaker 4: guys are going to get executed and even though miracle
Speaker 4: shows up, but you know the idea. Okay, the rich
Speaker 4: guy's gonna get away with it, and.
Speaker 3: Well that that could have been an ending. But then again,
Speaker 3: let's remember how the French Revolution actually did it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, lots of headless people.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I love the French. Can I just say
Speaker 3: that the French.
Speaker 4: Hors so drunk?
Speaker 3: I'll say Spike Milligan shows up here, English comedian, English
Speaker 3: legend who plays a senile character better than anybody. He
Speaker 3: did it here, he did it again in Yellow Beard.
Speaker 3: I love him. He's one of the He's what Charlie
Speaker 3: Kalis is going for in my mind. He because it's
Speaker 3: silly as fuck, but it's endlessly entertaining. Yeah, the Mike
Speaker 3: Myers taking a lot of his stick from Spike Milligan,
Speaker 3: the king, genial, silly goofy oh so British.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can get down with that. I agree. I'd
Speaker 4: Spike Milligan's was like, it's what the Beatles grew, what
Speaker 4: Mike Myers grew, which is pretty good. He's funny, but like.
Speaker 3: The last thing, Oh, it's terrible and I wish you
Speaker 3: would end. I love that for a history of the world.
Speaker 3: And I know he tempered it with part one because
Speaker 3: there's only so much you could do. But this is
Speaker 3: a ninety minute movie. Jump ahead to something you're that's
Speaker 3: guaranteed to fucking make us laugh here for the last
Speaker 3: part of it.
Speaker 4: I feel like the editing you needed, you could have
Speaker 4: chopped the Rome sequence in this one up a little
Speaker 4: bit and added a World War two finger, added some cowboys,
Speaker 4: or that would have even Robinhood could have You could
Speaker 4: have fit all the jokes from Robinhood, men and tights
Speaker 4: into fifteen minute sequence in this movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we jumped from Rome to the French Revolution. You
Speaker 3: can jump again. It's okay. At least get us to
Speaker 3: the twentieth century.
Speaker 4: Mel Yeah, I feel like he just I ran out
Speaker 4: of ideas, I ran out of time. It's not one
Speaker 4: of it more complete pictures for.
Speaker 3: Sure, though. Whatever bad taste that left in my mouth
Speaker 3: as a kid, and then again on the rewatch it's
Speaker 3: really made up for the teaser trailer for History of
Speaker 3: the World Part two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's actually the funniest. It's just hilarious because it's
Speaker 4: just gag, gag, gag, and come on, that Hitler on
Speaker 4: Ice is hilarious, which.
Speaker 3: They do they pay off, okay, And that the Viking
Speaker 3: funeral is just a one panel joke, got it. But
Speaker 3: then Jews in Space has the benefit of being very
Speaker 3: well made but are really great.
Speaker 4: It's fun like a minute long short.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a bunch of stars of David right, haha.
Speaker 3: Those ships are awesome.
Speaker 4: And the two guys dancing at the end.
Speaker 3: I do know that the space ships that they do
Speaker 3: say kosher on them.
Speaker 4: It's an interesting thing is that that sequence gives you
Speaker 4: a perspective that you hadn't seen in sci fi movies
Speaker 4: up at that point, the window where the guys are
Speaker 4: looking watching what's going on, like the mall. They never
Speaker 4: I think our Trek the motion picture has that that
Speaker 4: little the shuttle where you saw Kirk flying in the
Speaker 4: window and stuff, but that's about it. So it's like
Speaker 4: a pretty neat effect to see that composited on a
Speaker 4: model in nineteen eighty one, because if they didn't do
Speaker 4: it really an Empire, Star Wars or Battlestar or buck
Speaker 4: Rogers or anything around that.
Speaker 3: I did notice the tie fighter sound effect in there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Obviously when Spaceballs came out, Lucas was the one like
Speaker 3: extolling its virtues more than anybody. Yeah, so I'm sure
Speaker 3: here there must have been somebody, a twenty century Fox,
Speaker 3: who said we can make some money by assuming them
Speaker 3: for using that fact that's ours, right, I'm hoping that
Speaker 3: that happened and that Lucas shut it down.
Speaker 4: But well, when it came to Spaceballs, Lucas is like,
Speaker 4: do whatever you want, just don't make any toys.
Speaker 3: The visual effects by Albert Whitlock.
Speaker 4: What did Albert Woodlock work on?
Speaker 3: Albert Woodlock did John Carpenter's the Thing?
Speaker 4: Ah, but you don't opening that great opening?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he is best known as a matte painter.
Speaker 4: Albert Woodlock is did he do the title on the thing?
Speaker 3: He sure did so, Yeah, it made sense. He was
Speaker 3: there and they're like, hey, would you mind doing this
Speaker 3: for us?
Speaker 4: It's really well done.
Speaker 3: But that brings us to the end, the end of history.
Speaker 3: It all ended here.
Speaker 4: It all ended here.
Speaker 3: Jews in space. It ended in the future our history.
Speaker 4: At least Choos in space waits.
Speaker 3: That's basically what he does. That's the narrator here, Melbourne
Speaker 3: Brooks replacing Orson Wells, which is a opportunity. By the way, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they must have it must have been. We've added it.
Speaker 3: They added it way later, and they're like, we're never
Speaker 3: going to get him.
Speaker 4: Back, not for less than five thousand dollars right there.
Speaker 4: There is one funny joke on the TV show. There's
Speaker 4: a sequence about Jesus and you know how they show
Speaker 4: the title at the beginning of each sequence and he
Speaker 4: reads them. Mel Brooks reads the titles, so when it
Speaker 4: says Jesus Christ, he goes Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 4: Mel Brooks is one hundred years old. He shot Nazis,
Speaker 4: he had the hottest wife ever, and he made some
Speaker 4: of the funniest movies of all. I mean, I just
Speaker 4: love the guy. I'm so grateful that I've had him
Speaker 4: in my life, so to speak. And his kid wrote
Speaker 4: a book called World WARZ. You've never read it. It's
Speaker 4: pretty good. The audio drama for World War Z is spectacular,
Speaker 4: and the movie.
Speaker 3: Star the movie is God awful. How did it come
Speaker 3: out of that book?
Speaker 4: What? Huh?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: That book is as responsible as twenty eight days later
Speaker 3: for the trend of zombies. Yeah, absolutely planted all of
Speaker 3: the seats. Look, they all stole it from Romero, folks.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that book is great. I love Max Brooks.
Speaker 3: And you know what if mel Brooks made spaceballs to
Speaker 3: entertain that kid and then he turned around and norte
Speaker 3: that book it had added anything to that kid's psyche
Speaker 3: to do that, then God blessed that movie.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine what a fun child that you would
Speaker 4: have had mel Brooks as your dad.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there were trials, because every father son relationship
Speaker 3: had fuck man. At the end of the day, it's
Speaker 3: mel Brooks.
Speaker 4: Well, the funny thing is, look how he rebelled. He
Speaker 4: rebelled by going to write zombie books and being a
Speaker 4: history professor at Harvard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way to do it. We could all
Speaker 3: hope our children rebel in such a manner.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you father alone for a wonderful time today.
Speaker 4: I was really happy to talk about such a funny
Speaker 4: movie and such trying times we live in. We've get
Speaker 4: the funny of mel Brooks to remind us to laugh
Speaker 4: and punch up in front of the jerks in power, I.
Speaker 3: Guess indeed, I don't know that I would recommend the
Speaker 3: movie overall, but as a completest, you fucking have to
Speaker 3: see it. You know what, if you need to laugh,
Speaker 3: and we all goddamn do check it out. There are
Speaker 3: some actual, genuine fucking laughs in this movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are some cringe moment Oh, there are a ton.
Speaker 4: There are a ton of them.
Speaker 3: Get ready to cringe a lot, but I get ready
Speaker 3: to laugh a lot too, and know that ultimately that
Speaker 3: that guy's heart is in the right place. The cringey
Speaker 3: stuff is cringey, but and as means spirited as it
Speaker 3: seems in overall, I think that's just more of the
Speaker 3: time period and Brooks competing in an arena he had
Speaker 3: no business competing it.
Speaker 4: I think that's a very very honest and a studavation there.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you well, until we talk next time, Antonio.
Speaker 3: Where can people find you?
Speaker 4: Hey, you can follow me at Swamp Media Group on
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Speaker 4: dot com.
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Speaker 3: you'll get our bonus shows like Cable Box Theater where
Speaker 3: HP from Noise Junkies and I drive ourselves totally fucking
Speaker 3: insane by watching videotape Broadway performances that were originally aired
Speaker 3: on Showtime at HBO in the late seventies when they
Speaker 3: didn't have any other thing to put on the air.
Speaker 3: It's they are. There's something, folks, make sure you tune
Speaker 3: in a week from today where we're returning with Tales
Speaker 3: from the Dark Side Season three. We're gonna be doing
Speaker 3: episodes three and four of that. There's one more thing
Speaker 3: I wanted to plug. Fuck. Oh well, until next time,
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, midnight viewing things still don't have a
Speaker 3: closer goodbye.
Speaker 4: Bye bye.
Speaker 3: Possession the Quisition.
Speaker 5: We know you wish.
Speaker 2: Mess sssss sing something siss