WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:48.079 We're in wait, miss. 2 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:58.719 S. 3 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:20.040 Welcome back midnight viewers to Anthologies Attacked, where we examine 4 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:24.280 anthologies of every media and a genre and with me 5 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:27.239 my co host, back to me shoot on location on 6 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:31.719 the Arborean Moon. Mis Or Gordon's alive. 7 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:34.959 Hey, father Malone, how are you today? 8 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:37.959 I am well, sir, and happy to be talking about 9 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:40.640 another anthology that's lighter hearted. 10 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:44.719 Yeah, after all that Cohen Brothers heavy handedness and you 11 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:46.840 think you go into a Cohen Brother's picture and you're like, 12 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.000 it's going to be fun, and then you're like, oh no, 13 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.000 this movie's about dead people and sadness. I got God 14 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.599 bless them. But yes, I am excited to talk about 15 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:59.200 the King of comedy himself, the great, the hero to 16 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.519 gen xers everywhere, the one and only mel Brooks, War 17 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:05.040 hero and Oscar winner mel Brooks. 18 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.479 Yes, indeed, and that picture is History of the World 19 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:12.400 Part one, written, produced and directed by mister mel Brooks, 20 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:16.840 starring mel Brooks, also starring Dom de Luise, Madeline conn 21 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.759 Harvey Korman, Chloris Leachman, Gregory Hines, and Pamela Stevenson, with 22 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:25.240 narration by Orson Well. The film was released on June 23 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.439 the twelfth, nineteen eighty one. The plot is a series 24 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:33.280 of vignettes basically chronicling from the Stone Age up until 25 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:36.879 the French Revolution, with some previews of what the future 26 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:37.879 has to hold. 27 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:53.159 From the naked dawn of man to the magnificence of 28 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:53.840 the Bible. 29 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.560 The Lord Jehovah has given onto you The's fifteen. 30 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:02.560 Ten ten commandments. 31 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:08.680 From the glory that was Rome to the dark evils 32 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:10.360 of the Spanish Inquisition. 33 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:13.919 War now begins the Inquisition. 34 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:18.120 I go about to the French Revolution with its squalor 35 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:19.719 and its splendor. 36 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.560 The Pesses may grow violent, they are my people. I 37 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:24.680 am the sovereign. 38 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:28.479 I love them. 39 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:33.159 The History of the World Part one, starring. 40 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:43.080 Stead the Manor King, o Women, Morman, more Handsometan love long. 41 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:56.120 Ship, your beautiful that I'm just meeting on a high note. 42 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:06.120 Hey, what country are you from? 43 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:07.719 The Ophia? 44 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:10.039 What part. 45 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:13.360 On twenty fifth Street? 46 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.319 I'm Miriam, I'm the best Virgin. 47 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:20.519 I'm really sorry to hear that you should have been 48 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:29.000 here over thirty grains ago. Please, brothers mee chest day drama. 49 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:34.560 Do you require a bland pol none? 50 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:36.800 Have you any last words? 51 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:45.240 None? Chest do yokee action. 52 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:49.519 Where they're going? 53 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:50.160 I don't know. 54 00:04:51.879 --> 00:05:07.480 Romance, they win eight Spectacle, The Acquisition what a show. 55 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:10.920 We know you wish and that we go away. 56 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.319 But the Exquisition's here and it's here to stay. 57 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:22.000 Tail Brooks. History of the World Part One ten million 58 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:22.920 years in. 59 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:28.399 The making, Antonio, where did you first see this movie? 60 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:29.879 What are your memories of this movie? 61 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.319 I saw this pretty much like ninety eight percent of 62 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.800 everybody from the age of forty to fifty forty to 63 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:40.040 fifty something. I first saw this movie on HBO, probably 64 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.959 after school with my buddies Chris Smith and Mike Smith 65 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:46.800 at their grandma's house. It was on HBO constantly, and 66 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:49.639 it was on the superstation constant. Those were the other two, 67 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:52.680 and of course the HBO version being much better. Yeah, 68 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:54.800 and I saw a zillion times growing. 69 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:58.639 Up, I had the exact same experience. Yeah, I already 70 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:02.040 loved to mel Brooks. I had seen by the time 71 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:06.160 History of the World Part One hit HBO. I know 72 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:08.839 that I had seen Young Frankenstein in the theater. I 73 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:10.519 don't think on the initial run. I think it was 74 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:12.759 one when the movie initially came out, but they did 75 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:15.199 back in the day, if you remember, they would re 76 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.560 release movies from time to time, and on one of 77 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:19.600 those re releases, I got to see you on Frankston, 78 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:21.920 so I knew who mel Brooks was, and he was 79 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:25.000 always all over television and talk shows and stuff. I 80 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:27.720 was definitely looking forward to watching this movie, and yeah, 81 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:31.480 it was on one billion time. You couldn't get away 82 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:32.079 from the movie. 83 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:36.000 I'm betting my first exposure to him was probably Spaceballs 84 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:38.279 or my age, yeah, ten or whatever I was when 85 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:41.560 I came out, But maybe this Young Frankenstein. I don't 86 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.639 think I saw until I was like thirteen or fourteen. 87 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:48.199 But before we go on, Young Frankenstein is his master. 88 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:51.519 Young Frankenstein is not only one of the funniest movies 89 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:54.160 that ever made, I think Young Frankenstein is one of 90 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:57.879 the finest movies ever made. It is a flawless, perfect 91 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:02.879 film that is not only about making laugh, but it's 92 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:07.000 about Hollywood itself. It's about Hollywood history, it's about literature, 93 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:09.720 It's about a lot of things that movie. And there's 94 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:12.839 a reason why it's always on the afilists. There's a 95 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.959 reason why it continues to be in the discussion of 96 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:18.600 this day as a great movie. Everybody talks about Blazing 97 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.399 Saddles Blazing Faddles is one of the pound for pound 98 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:24.480 funniest things ever made. But it's part of the conversation 99 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:26.879 today because but you couldn't make it today. Of course 100 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:28.600 he could make it today, but the studio guy would 101 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:30.399 just say, we already made that movie. No, but you 102 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:32.879 can make it today. I don't think it is as 103 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.480 taboo as people try to let on it is. And 104 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:38.160 also remember Blazing Saddles punches up, not down, so I 105 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:40.920 think it it would still play with exception a couple 106 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:42.920 of things. And The Producers is his other masters. The 107 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:45.879 Producers is just piss funny. It's so good that I 108 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.319 still haven't seen the musical read and I'm like, why 109 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:50.519 why do I need to see Nathan Lane and Matthew 110 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:54.600 Broder What I got zero freaking mostelle and Gene Wilder 111 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:57.800 being amazing. And I'm a huge Nathan Lane fan. I 112 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:00.319 think Nathan Lane the funniest guy's ever made. But that 113 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:03.079 original movie. When I saw that at sixteen, I was busy. 114 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:08.199 It is a masterpiece. And I was a projectionist at 115 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:11.519 a movie theater that was showing The Producers the remake, 116 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:16.040 the musical remake, And I've seen about thirty seconds of it. 117 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.240 It played for a couple of weeks at least, but 118 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:21.000 I could not bear to watch more than a few 119 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:24.160 frames of it. It's just so tired. I'm Antonio. I'm 120 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:27.480 not the kind of guy who says things should not 121 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:28.279 be remade. 122 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:29.000 Go for it. 123 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.639 What's your take on the material? I'm dynasty it. But 124 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:36.879 there's something inherently sad about mel Brooks recycling his material 125 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:39.360 and turning it into comedy. God bless him, he turns 126 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:42.399 it into this whole second life, third life, fifth life 127 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:47.120 of his career. But I, yeah, I don't. You wouldn't 128 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:49.399 remake Citizen Kane, Yeah, exactly. 129 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:52.679 Now. I don't have a problem with him doing remakes 130 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.399 of his music as the stuff as Broadway musicals, But 131 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:57.639 I like that on the stage. There's no reason to 132 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:01.080 make a movie version out of the stage. The movie's perfect. 133 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:03.480 There's no reason to remake the movie if you want 134 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.080 to relive the movie as a stage experience. I'm not 135 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.480 unopposed to that. I think it's a little out of hand. 136 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:09.879 I don't know why the hell is there back to. 137 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:14.919 The future but a beach back to the future is that's. 138 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.000 Yeah, But the producers I think lends itself, okay to 139 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.039 a musical reinterpretation, because with some musicals they begin with 140 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:25.080 so okay, on the stage, it's cool. I would like 141 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:28.799 to play, you know, in that musical on stage as 142 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.279 an actor, it's great. But as a movie, no, why 143 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:34.320 the movie's flawless. And here's another thing too, it's a 144 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:38.080 pretty movie. The production value, the cinematography, the direction of 145 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:41.840 the producers is high quality, pretty good movie making. I'm 146 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.320 not even gonna get into how good Young Frankenstein is. 147 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:47.480 Young frankensd has that cinematography in it which is just 148 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.720 mind blowingly beautiful, and all those original sets and stuff. 149 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:53.720 It's just gorgeous and blazing. Saddles is a good looking 150 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:56.480 movie too. It's shot very traditionally, like an old western. 151 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:59.799 By the time we get to our movie, the production 152 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.720 value isn't as nice. I feel like they're not spending 153 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:04.879 the money on this movie that they were on some 154 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.879 of his other pieces, like in the We'll get to it, 155 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.799 but for example, the Inquisition musical number. It's great and 156 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:13.360 there's a lot going on, but some of it just 157 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.519 looks like they're clearly on his own state. But it's not. 158 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:16.639 Maybe that's the intent. 159 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:19.440 I don't know, yeah, I don't think he was. Brooks 160 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:22.440 has never been afraid of showing the artifice back then. Yeah, 161 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:26.080 not only the inquisition sequence. Take the opening sequence of 162 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.639 the Stone Age. That's just a fucking painted backdrop. 163 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:29.960 Yeah. 164 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:32.039 So yeah, I guess to a certain aggrace, he's not 165 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:34.480 afraid of showing it. But like his work in the 166 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:38.559 seventies is so much more dynamic and there's more care 167 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:41.919 into the filmmaking than and this one's a little you. 168 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:44.360 Know what, I agree with you, But in those cases 169 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:47.039 other than the producers, because that was his own thing. 170 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.240 But once he got into parody, he had a target 171 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:52.279 he was aiming at, and so there was a style 172 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.440 of filmmaking that he could ape in a way, and 173 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:59.600 he's a very very good mimic of those styles. But 174 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:01.440 when it came to History of the World Part one, 175 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.600 what is he supposed to do here? He's left to 176 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:06.120 his own devices, And each of these segments is so 177 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:07.320 different than the previous. 178 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:09.080 If I had been going to be like, oh, I'm 179 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.519 five directed, But if I had been directing it, I 180 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.080 would have my goal would have been, Okay, I've got 181 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:17.080 nine vignettes or whatever, eighty five or six vignettes in 182 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:19.960 this movie. I am going to shoot each vignette like 183 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:23.879 the period pe, like a period piece from that genre. 184 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.720 So I wouldn't have stopped making. I would have shut 185 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:28.480 the thing, just like Kubrick for the the opening. I 186 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.399 would have looked at Barry Linden for the Revolution stuff 187 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:34.200 for the Napoleonic Air like I would have like, really, God, 188 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:36.159 have gone out of the way. But that's who I am. 189 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:38.879 He's just gonna get the joke across. They're not spending 190 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:40.720 the money, They're trying to get the thing out by June. 191 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:45.120 Yeah, it's not look in some cases, I think the 192 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:48.879 jokes aren't landing the way they used to, and he's 193 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:54.080 cannibalizing himself a lot here. But it is also the 194 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:57.440 matter of the budget. I think by nineteen eighty one, 195 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:59.480 it's crazy to think, because he has such a fucking 196 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:02.960 huge run during the nineteen seventies that by eighty one, 197 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:06.279 three or four years later, they're just going, yeah, you 198 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:08.159 can have it this month. You can have ten million 199 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:10.279 for this one, and like he had received ten million 200 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:14.440 for the previous and the one before that, and it's inflation. Yeah, yeah, 201 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:16.480 I'm not saying he was greedily seeking. 202 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.080 No, not at all. I like, so, is there a 203 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:22.559 like a six to seven year break between this and Spaceballs? 204 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.200 It's four years between High Anxiety, which didn't do as 205 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.399 well as Silent Movie, which didn't do as well as 206 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.879 Young Frankenstein, until History of the World Part one, and 207 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.120 then it is an additional six years still Spaceball. 208 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.240 Yeah, but I did this make money? 209 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:39.639 This did. It was a budget of ten million, It 210 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.120 pulled in thirty. So you figure even if they spent 211 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.000 the exact same amount on advertising, it's still made ten 212 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:46.799 million dollars. 213 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:51.120 Yeah. They probably spent fifteen on advertising, five on advertising. 214 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.919 Back ten so that's a real big success. This is 215 00:12:53.039 --> 00:12:53.879 nineteen eighty one. 216 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:56.480 That's what Star Wars ten million dollars. 217 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:57.399 In seventy six. 218 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:01.000 In seventy six, Wow, Burr strikes Back. 219 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:04.080 Cost like fifty so and they have a big space 220 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:04.639 battle in this. 221 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:07.279 They sure do it, and it's actually a pretty good 222 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.919 space battle. I just watched it this afternoon again, like, well, 223 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:12.919 that's actually pretty good. You definitely see space Balls there. 224 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.480 Oh yeah. I was young enough that when I saw 225 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:17.879 the Fink preview at the end of this movie that 226 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:19.120 I thought it was serious. 227 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.600 Yeah, So that and basically every other kid who watched it. 228 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.720 Did they did they include that the sequelized serial. 229 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:31.919 I don't know, because I watched maybe half an episode 230 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:35.799 and decided, I'm I don't want to tarnish damage. I 231 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.240 don't want to touch them. I did watch it, Oh okay, I. 232 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.720 Got through it. I remember, I enjoyed it. But there 233 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:44.000 was too much of it. It was just too much 234 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:47.039 of it, Like you're gonna stretch out a ninety minute 235 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:50.720 movie or a hundred minute movie into six or seven, eight, 236 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:54.840 nine half hour episodes? Are you mad? And they like 237 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.320 they would repeat the skits, so the skits would come back, like, 238 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:00.799 why are you redoing this skit? You gotta just cut 239 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:04.240 an episode. I feel like making it a streaming show sucks, 240 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:06.480 and that when they do that with a lot of 241 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:08.919 these things, and they make sequels out of old pictures 242 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:11.120 and stuff. But it's a streaming show. Now, I'm like, yeah, 243 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:14.159 but now you've got too much information. It's a comedy. 244 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:15.840 You don't need that in a comedy. You want to 245 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.679 comedies you should be able to go back and rewatch 246 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:21.639 a thousand times and memorize. That's half the fun, and 247 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:24.600 memorize the lines quote them with your friends and stuff. 248 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:26.919 I go around and saying, think it's good to be 249 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:28.759 the king. Why because I've seen there's gona be a 250 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.720 bunch of times and everybody knows that reference, you know. 251 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:35.759 My feeling with that sequel series was that when you 252 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:39.200 look back at the original film as hack as some 253 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:43.279 of the jokes are as silly, or maybe some lines 254 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:47.480 don't land, some do, all of that dialogue was written 255 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:52.399 down by mel Brooks, probably rewritten and rewritten, and then 256 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:55.120 brought to the set where actors interpreted it. I got 257 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:58.039 the feeling with that series that they're following the appeto 258 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:00.679 method of we've got an idea here and now let's 259 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:04.000 just play, and we're getting the let's just play takes. 260 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:07.799 So I've, as the audience may have heard, I've directed 261 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:10.080 a couple of things, feature a bunch of shorts, and 262 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.600 we just did a forty eight hour film fest a 263 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:15.200 few months ago with our movie called dead Listing. You 264 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:17.559 can find it on YouTube, and I shot it in 265 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:20.360 the appetite. That's how I did it, because I had 266 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:23.000 three hours to get a script together and that so 267 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:25.159 my writing partner we brought in another writer to help 268 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:26.960 us out and produce it, and we got a script 269 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:29.200 by the end of the night, and I just cast 270 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:31.279 actors that I knew were fun because the script I 271 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:33.279 got was shit not shit. It was pretty good. It 272 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.799 was well structured, the places, the things, the gags were 273 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:38.159 in there, but the jokes weren't really there, and I 274 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:41.200 relied on my actors that do it, and the couple 275 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.799 of actors in it that are really funny were really delivered, 276 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.000 and the other folks were just more traditional. Give me 277 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:48.360 some lines and I'll read them. Actors don't give you 278 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:51.039 the same kind of performance. They all get great performances, 279 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:53.639 but you get different levels because you got to have 280 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:54.720 a trained comic. 281 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:55.240 To do these things. 282 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:57.480 And I don't know anybody who's funnier than mel Brooks 283 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:01.320 in nineteen seventy something, So I don't know that. Being said, 284 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:04.600 it was chaos to shoot like that, and you really 285 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.279 got to have strong actors, and you've really got to 286 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:09.960 spend your time in the editing. It's writing in reverse. 287 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:12.519 I don't know. I'm a fan of doing both, to 288 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:13.720 be honest with you, I want to go in there 289 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:16.039 with a funny script and then have my funny actors 290 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:17.240 make what I wrote funnier. 291 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:20.000 Oh, I'm not discounting the method. I'm just saying, like 292 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:24.519 the jarring styles was just another kind of trigger for 293 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:26.159 me to turn the damn thing off. 294 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:29.200 But yeah, you're absolutely right, because the folks in it 295 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:31.759 were a lot of the actors in it were a 296 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:33.960 lot of the improvs, the improv tradition, and a lot 297 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.480 of groundlings of there and a lot of Second City 298 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:40.679 folks and Ike Barenholtz who's from Mad TV's Great Improv Guy. 299 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.320 And Nick Krall is another one who I think is 300 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:46.399 hilarious and I think his show is hilarious. But the 301 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:50.200 what's the show? Big Mouth funnier than shit? But big 302 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:53.000 Mouth suffers the same thing that The History of the 303 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:54.120 World Part two suffer, just. 304 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:57.759 Too much of it, like ultimately comes down to judicial editing. 305 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:00.720 I would think, yeah, it no need every. 306 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:04.160 Joke, guys, brevity is the solo whit too. Yeah. 307 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.079 By comparison, History of the World Part one is ninety minutes. 308 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:10.559 And it's ninety minutes that are all pretty solid. Some 309 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:12.559 of it's a little dated. I'm gonna even get to this. 310 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:15.599 They lean way heavy into the gay jokes in this one, 311 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:19.119 more than in Blazing Saddles, and I can argue in 312 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:22.279 Blazing Saddles, actually they play better, like it's not as 313 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:23.599 mean spirited. 314 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:26.160 And say why Because in Blazing Saddles, when people would 315 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:30.759 level criticisms at Brooks or say the Zucker Abram Zucker guys, 316 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:34.880 or even Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the answer is always, well, 317 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:38.759 they're making fun of literally everyone, Like everyone is a target, 318 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.480 so you can't get upset when it's your group being attacked, 319 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:46.599 and Blazing Saddles feels that way. It feels like you're 320 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:51.039 all our target, whereas this movie doesn't seem to be 321 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:54.880 taking anyone on. It's just a series of jokes and 322 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:57.319 on occasion, hey look at the fags. 323 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.960 Yeah that's what I got to And another thing again 324 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.599 in Blazing Saddles, I don't find it as mean spirited. 325 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.200 Yeah there's the fag joke so to speak, not to 326 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:09.920 like use for such boorish language, but there there's the 327 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.920 the musical number calm girls, let's get them. But I 328 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:15.240 feel like they cast gay dudes to do that, and 329 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:17.480 I feel like they're in on the joke a little bit, 330 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:20.319 and it's more of a spoof of the Broadway Line 331 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:22.759 than of the being like, hey, look at. 332 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:25.599 The fags again. You know what comedy as always do 333 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:29.200 you trust who's telling you the joke? So intent? You 334 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:31.839 got to know their intent, right. I don't think if 335 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:34.880 I tuned in and heard Mark Marin saying he was 336 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:38.200 voting for Trump, I would know that he was joking. 337 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:40.519 I would know he was being iron you know what 338 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:43.000 I mean. There's no way and just the way I 339 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:45.440 know that if he were to tell something completely off color, 340 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:49.480 that maybe he's making some further point. So intention counts. 341 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.960 But the other thing that really counts is it has 342 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:53.079 to be fucking funny. 343 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:56.960 That's actually in my notes in the Rome sequence I 344 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:00.240 wrote that's probably the difference is Blazing Saddles. The jokes 345 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.200 were funny. When the stunt man gets into the Tulsa 346 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:05.839 with the dancer and they go behind the thing and 347 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:07.640 come out, he's like, I'm not part by the commissary 348 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:10.319 and he's got his arm around him. That joke, that 349 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:12.720 joke eight, as the kids would say today, that is 350 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:17.160 a solid hilarious joke. But in this movie it's just 351 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:19.799 I'm saying blah blah blah, and the fag over here, 352 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:23.240 I'm just like, wait, there's no context. It's mean spirited, 353 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:25.720 it's not punching up so like I. 354 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:31.359 Don't because he's already that caricature. He's mincing and lisping, 355 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:35.119 and he's so gay, and then it's and then like 356 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:37.720 the cherry on top, the little fag gets it. Come on, 357 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:38.640 mel calm down. 358 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:41.519 Mel Brooks couldn't have said twinkle toes. That might even 359 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:43.799 might have played a little better. I don't know. Also, 360 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:45.319 a lot a lot of tho stuff in this picture 361 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.200 doesn't play as well. I think he's starting to show 362 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:51.160 his age a little bit, and like his uncoolness, I 363 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:53.440 guess it's starting to show up a little bit. There's 364 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:56.240 a note I have in here about all the old 365 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:58.960 tiny comics in it, like, I never realized how unfunny 366 00:19:59.000 --> 00:19:59.440 so many of. 367 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:01.799 Them oalking about Sid Caesar and Shaky Greening. 368 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:05.359 Yeah, and who's the guy with the and doing back 369 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:09.079 and it's just so his whole gag is making fart noises. Really, 370 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:11.880 you were a comedian that had a long career doing that, 371 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:16.319 and Sid Caesar and Soupy Sales, Oh my god, just 372 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.799 these guys are not funny. I guess these are all 373 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:21.079 dudes he worked with when he was coming up, your 374 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:22.160 Show of Shows and. 375 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:24.920 That type of Yeah, I mean that very famously. Your 376 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:28.519 Show of Shows was Melbrook's first professional writing career, and 377 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:31.680 on the staff was Carl Reiner and Woody Allen and 378 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:35.960 Neil Simon and creator of the Waltons, and it was 379 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:38.920 just it was an insane fucking group of people. So yeah, 380 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.720 he's he. I think always felt behold and reverential to 381 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:46.119 Sid Caesar, and Sid Caesar's appearance is okay. The problem 382 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:49.319 is that nothing he's doing is funny. He's given really 383 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:50.279 lame jokes. 384 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:52.480 Is what is it? All those guys are like your 385 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:59.839 Semitic super squad of silliness, your finest kid. Yeah, the 386 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:04.400 finest comedian comedy writers of his generation. Mel Brooks is 387 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:08.000 probably the funniest Carl writers. Prettyis funny. That Dick Van 388 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:09.759 Dyke Show was pretty good. I used to watch that 389 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:13.519 when I was little on Nigked Night and Neil Simon. 390 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:15.119 I was a theater kid in high school, so I 391 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.359 know Neil Simon never really did much for me though. 392 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:21.000 Yeah, Neil Simon I really enjoyed in my youth, and 393 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.079 I thought it was so clever and witty, and the 394 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:25.279 older I got, I was just like, it's just him 395 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:27.319 talking to him. It's like Kevin Smith. It's just like 396 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.279 the description I love of with Neil Simon's like a 397 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:34.359 woodpecker sitting on either side of your head snapping away. 398 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:37.440 At least Kevin Smith talks about Star Wars, and we said, okay, 399 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:39.519 I've got a cultural reference here, and like Weed, okay, 400 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:43.039 and Woody Allen. I like Annie Hall. I love Annie Hall, 401 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:43.599