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Speaker 2: talk some tech with Marsha Caryer, who joins me in studio.
Speaker 2: Marshall is always great to see you. Thank you for
Speaker 2: coming out tonight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those ads were unbelievable, but hey, some of them
Speaker 4: that are going on now. I look at the commercial
Speaker 4: and I go, what are they saying?
Speaker 2: What are they selling that?
Speaker 4: There's one I think it's for Apple. We finally figured
Speaker 4: out and they have one of those blow up things
Speaker 4: that they put on the corner to show a store.
Speaker 4: It took me five times to figure out who who's
Speaker 4: that it was.
Speaker 2: It's been a while since I've been in one of
Speaker 2: my marketing classes in college, but one of the things
Speaker 2: that was instilled in me is it should be clear
Speaker 2: what the product is. Right, whatever it is, guns, butter widgets,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It should be clear what you're selling. And
Speaker 2: there are a lot of great commercials out there in
Speaker 2: the sense of oh they're funny, they're memorable, but I
Speaker 2: couldn't tell you what the product was and my life
Speaker 2: depended on it.
Speaker 4: And in my world, that's a big waste of money,
Speaker 4: huge waste of money, the agency buying, the time, just
Speaker 4: the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Commercials do matter, and they move us to make these purchases.
Speaker 2: And they're also products that we use which were free
Speaker 2: and have had all sorts of positive impacts on what
Speaker 2: we do. One of those was Skype. I swore by
Speaker 2: Skype for many, many years. There was a way that
Speaker 2: I used to actually call people once upon a time.
Speaker 2: I used it for interviews, especially international interviews, because Skype
Speaker 2: preceded all the zoom and stuff that you saw today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you were cutting edge. I was cutting edge.
Speaker 4: I used it all the time. It worked in the
Speaker 4: early days. Remember, it would sometimes get along sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yes, but you know, it was a forerunner of all
Speaker 2: that we take for granted today with Zoom and Microsoft
Speaker 2: Teams or Google Hangouts or whatever. Skype's going away.
Speaker 4: Now, I have a question for you before we talk
Speaker 4: about this. How important is it other than your work,
Speaker 4: which is different just for personal use? How important is
Speaker 4: video calling for you?
Speaker 2: I would it's it's kind of important, if only because
Speaker 2: when you say video calling in a general sense, it's
Speaker 2: important because there are times where I'll use Google what
Speaker 2: was Google Duo with my wife and other family members.
Speaker 2: It has its place. I don't have a need for
Speaker 2: it in my life personally professionally all day, every day.
Speaker 4: Right right, Professionally we use it, and unfortunately Skype is
Speaker 4: going away. And remember Skype also had a chat feature.
Speaker 4: A lot of these don't have I, for example, Zoom,
Speaker 4: which I don't really recommend for personal use to anybody
Speaker 4: that is a business product. I don't know the chat feature.
Speaker 4: You can't watch the chat while you're doing the video.
Speaker 2: That never made any says to me, Why is it
Speaker 2: that I have to pop out the chat and take
Speaker 2: my attention away from the meeting to read the chat.
Speaker 2: No one has figured out how to integrate it.
Speaker 4: It should be like lower third right, maybe yes, I
Speaker 4: don't know, but that I don't recommend that well, was
Speaker 4: starting out with something negative. Let me start with something
Speaker 4: I like, because, by the way, I am not a fan.
Speaker 4: When my husband and I Google Duo, which was the predecessor,
Speaker 4: let me get into Google Meet. It was the predecessor
Speaker 4: to Google Meet. Google Meet was developed as a really
Speaker 4: simple call solution for Android users, and it worked also
Speaker 4: on iOS, which was great because my husband's on an
Speaker 4: iPhone and I'm on Android. And when I traveled, I
Speaker 4: could video call my husband. But we'd plan it ahead
Speaker 4: of time, you know, like we'd text each other ahead.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it. I can. Just the worst thing
Speaker 4: in the world I can possibly imagine is my phone
Speaker 4: ringing in a face pop up wanting to look at
Speaker 4: me too.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 4: Horrifying.
Speaker 2: But the younger generation they swear by it. I think
Speaker 2: it's like almost an intrusion, invasion of privacy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's see we've set up permission for each other.
Speaker 4: No thank you, no no, no, no no no. But
Speaker 4: Google Meet is easy. We all have Google accounts. It
Speaker 4: is so simple. You can do it on a mac,
Speaker 4: you can do it on a PC. It's a friendlier Zoom.
Speaker 2: I think I know the iPhone people, but what about FaceTime.
Speaker 4: Well, we can talk about FaceTime and somebody who has
Speaker 4: an iPhone can send you a link to join a
Speaker 4: FaceTime call.
Speaker 2: But it's not usable by non non iOS people.
Speaker 4: Yes people, yeah so, And also there's this big foot
Speaker 4: push on some of these platforms to have like minimum
Speaker 4: fifty two people, the maximum fifty two people, or go
Speaker 4: up to one hundred people. I don't know about you,
Speaker 4: but what was the biggest video call you've ever been on.
Speaker 2: I've been on some with with hundreds No oh yeah, yeaheah.
Speaker 2: But it's more like it was a media person It
Speaker 2: was almost like a town hall type thing where you
Speaker 2: didn't necessarily know everyone. It wasn't a meeting in that regard.
Speaker 2: Guard But credit to Zoom for helping create that ecosystem.
Speaker 2: Skype obviously was a Microsoft product. It's going away. Zoom
Speaker 2: was not connected to any system per se. Teams is
Speaker 2: I guess going to be the the the solution, which
Speaker 2: it's going to be.
Speaker 4: The new Microsoft solution, and Teams is kind of clunky.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's very clunky. I choose not to use it.
Speaker 4: I don't use it. I only use it when somebody
Speaker 4: sends me a link that we're going to have a
Speaker 4: meeting on teams.
Speaker 2: Right and they've chosen because if I have a choice,
Speaker 2: I'm not using teams exactly.
Speaker 4: I will choose generally Google Meet. I mean, it's just
Speaker 4: my choice.
Speaker 2: Most companies that I deal with, including full disclosure, iHeart
Speaker 2: they use teams. That's the only time I'm going to
Speaker 2: use teams because someone else has said we got to
Speaker 2: use teams for this meeting. That's it.
Speaker 4: Well, you have to think about big companies and software
Speaker 4: usage and their it to apartments and the things they
Speaker 4: protect for and maybe there's something using Google Meat that
Speaker 4: they're not prepared for. But they have got a plan
Speaker 4: to make teams the safest way for you to do this,
Speaker 4: and we have to realize that in companies. So that's
Speaker 4: why I'm directing my stuff to just regular people right now.
Speaker 4: I mean Skype. I used to use it all the
Speaker 4: time to call my family in England, and it was
Speaker 4: like putting money in a payphone and I'd put in
Speaker 4: like five dollars and I'd work it off, you know,
Speaker 4: a couple of pennies here, a couple of pennies there,
Speaker 4: and in one day, my balance disappeared like I then
Speaker 4: I finally had been put in twenty bucks and it disappeared,
Speaker 4: and nobody let me know about it. Changing the rules, I.
Speaker 2: Mean they went to free Skype calling, or at least.
Speaker 4: Skype they wanted more money it expired at the end
Speaker 4: of the month, or a subscription.
Speaker 2: I had a Skype number for a quick second where
Speaker 2: you could make a Skype call to an actual line
Speaker 2: on the other end.
Speaker 4: You could do that from the desktop app too, though
Speaker 4: without number.
Speaker 2: But when I was doing it for BBC interviews, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Scotland and it was free. So it's
Speaker 2: served a business purpose for.
Speaker 4: Me, absolutely absolutely, But so I gave up on it,
Speaker 4: you know when they took my money away. You know,
Speaker 4: I hold grudges, they Apple iPod, I hold grudges.
Speaker 2: So what is going to happen? Then? For users like
Speaker 2: me who like Skype there's utility in Skype, don't want
Speaker 2: to go to teams.
Speaker 4: Well, it depends how much do you trust Facebook.
Speaker 2: I don't trust anybody anything, definitely don't trust Facebook. But
Speaker 2: I think I know where you're going with this. Please continue.
Speaker 4: Well, Facebook has Facebook Messenger and there are a lot
Speaker 4: of young people who really swear by that they keep
Speaker 4: that open on their phone all the time. It's just
Speaker 4: like their messaging app. More of the advanced people are
Speaker 4: using WhatsApp, which is an absolutely brilliant app. I even
Speaker 4: figured how to backdoor into it. I had somebody I
Speaker 4: put the app on my phone, did not upload my contacts,
Speaker 4: but it had my phone number and I had somebody
Speaker 4: from England call me, so then they became a contact.
Speaker 4: So as long as somebody calls me first or calls
Speaker 4: me with somebody else's number and I tap on that,
Speaker 4: they still don't have my contact list.
Speaker 2: That's good because I'm always leary of joining some sort
Speaker 2: of communications service and they present it as convenience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to help you out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just upload your context. You don't have to input
Speaker 2: yourself like, don't thank you.
Speaker 4: Just like both of us, we've got names in our
Speaker 4: contact list who really don't want their phone numbers out
Speaker 4: out in the wild. And well mo, if you want
Speaker 4: to try WhatsApp, I will call you on WhatsApp and
Speaker 4: once you have my number, then you can start. You
Speaker 4: can call me, you can text me numbers. I can
Speaker 4: text them to you, and you can build your directory.
Speaker 2: That's why I choose it. It's usually build it out
Speaker 2: my house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to build it myself, and I have,
Speaker 4: you know, over the years, I have like about ten
Speaker 4: people I use on WhatsApp. The video is perfect, you
Speaker 4: can do large pictures, you can upload and it's video
Speaker 4: or text.
Speaker 2: Does that work well as well on a desktop as
Speaker 2: it would up because I use scott Skype from the
Speaker 2: desktop because I'm doing like work, presentations or interviews, and
Speaker 2: I wouldn't use it on my phone so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I don't use it on the desktop. Okay,
Speaker 4: So you know, and you know what I tell you.
Speaker 4: Unless I've tested it myself, I'm not going to recommend
Speaker 4: or tell you give you any bs here. I have
Speaker 4: never done that, so I could not recommend it either way.
Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, let's talk about some
Speaker 2: of the the smaller providers. We know about Google five,
Speaker 2: we know about Verizon, we know about T Mobile. But
Speaker 2: there's some smaller ones which have entered the space, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to use their names yet. How viable,
Speaker 2: how trustworthy, how dependable are they? And we want to
Speaker 2: get some of your recommendations.
Speaker 4: They're called MVN o's and you'll be surprised when you
Speaker 4: hear which are actually mvn os.
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Speaker 4: I do. I like that.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about mobile providers.
Speaker 4: Okay, well interesting, do you ever think about the people
Speaker 4: who are not Verizon, T, Mobile AT and T Do
Speaker 4: you ever think about it? I mean, there are all
Speaker 4: these other companies and and you know, there's a Cricket,
Speaker 4: and there's Metro by T Mobile, and there's all these
Speaker 4: different ones, and you wind that, of course the one
Speaker 4: that Brian Reynolds advertises so successfully. What they're called these
Speaker 4: little guys are m v n o's, and that stands
Speaker 4: for Mobile Virtual Network Operators. Basically, they just lease time
Speaker 4: with traditional MOBAL network operations to buy network access at
Speaker 4: a wholesale costs because they say they're going to buy
Speaker 4: this amount from them and then set their own retail prices.
Speaker 4: This is kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: I got so pissed off at AT and T. Can
Speaker 4: I say that we're not going to dump it? Pissed off? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I just it was horrible. They kept raising their bill
Speaker 4: and raising their bill, and it was just and literally
Speaker 4: they lied to me on the phone. It was horrible.
Speaker 4: So I said, I have to get out of here.
Speaker 4: I have to get out of here. And it's a
Speaker 4: it was a landline that used to be my office line.
Speaker 4: I said, But I can't give up the number. So
Speaker 4: I went and I started researching all of this. What's
Speaker 4: interesting is the reason on some of the networks you
Speaker 4: get throttled when you reach a certain number of gigabytes
Speaker 4: or something like that, is because they have network priority.
Speaker 4: Maybe Cricket is paying more than Google Fi. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: Google Fi is an MVNO. They have the best providers,
Speaker 4: and they have a prime their own seamless network switching technology,
Speaker 4: and it toggles between all the major networks ensuring that
Speaker 4: it's the best signal possible.
Speaker 2: And for people who don't know, Let's say you had
Speaker 2: Sprint back in the day, and you know there were
Speaker 2: dead spots right when you had Sprint. When you have
Speaker 2: Google Fi, it will find the best signal. It might
Speaker 2: be Verizon in this area, it might be T Mobile
Speaker 2: in another area. It could be AT and T in
Speaker 2: another area. That's how Google Fi usually works.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so all these different ones, believe it or not,
Speaker 4: Verizon in AT and T put on face masks and
Speaker 4: then give themselves new brand names to sound friendly. Why yes,
Speaker 4: Infinity Mobile, this is Verizon TWIGB T ting Page plus
Speaker 4: Spectrum Mobile. No Spectrum Mobile, that's Verizon's key m vn os.
Speaker 2: So if I have Spectrum Mobile, I'm not actually getting
Speaker 2: away from Verizon, right? Is this kind of like the
Speaker 2: difference between a Toyota and Alexis, a Nissan and an Infinity.
Speaker 4: AT n T. Key m vn os include consumer, Cellular, Cricket, Freedom, Pop, Free,
Speaker 4: up Mobile, straight Talk, track phone such bloney were they're
Speaker 4: taking advantage of us. But I have to tell you,
Speaker 4: I studied, I looked, and besides, I thought Ryan Reynolds
Speaker 4: was kind of funny. And their website is written mint Mobile.
Speaker 4: Mint Mobile is written in such plain language, and they're
Speaker 4: so customer centric. And they had a plan for five
Speaker 4: gigabytes a month, which is not enough for me. But
Speaker 4: this is going to be a phone that sits in
Speaker 4: my house so that I maintain this phone number that
Speaker 4: I've had since I had my own business, and unlimited
Speaker 4: talk and texts for fifteen dollars a month.
Speaker 2: What about hidden fees or added on?
Speaker 4: None? None, they mean fifteen dollars done. I paid for
Speaker 4: a whole year. There were tech was tax on it.
Speaker 4: I paid for a whole year and it was legit
Speaker 4: two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: That's hard to pass up if you're not tied to
Speaker 2: any carrier. Fifteen dollars a month, unlimited talk and text.
Speaker 4: And let me just tell you for those of you said, well,
Speaker 4: you know they're sharing the bandwidth and no, they buy
Speaker 4: the bandwidth, think about the company you're dealing with. I
Speaker 4: turned off the Wi Fi on that phone and I
Speaker 4: had them send me a simchip. I like a simchip
Speaker 4: better than an eSIM because you can change the phone easily.
Speaker 4: That's a lesson for another day, but real quick I did.
Speaker 4: If you ever go to Google type in Internet speed test,
Speaker 4: something comes up, you tap on it and you can
Speaker 4: test your speed. I had five hundred, five hundred and
Speaker 4: eighteen point zero megabits per second download and fifty five
Speaker 4: point four upload. That's unheard of.
Speaker 2: That's unreal. You'd have to spend one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars a month to get done.
Speaker 4: Exactly, and it was better than my T Mobile account.
Speaker 4: And they get their dat their lines from the T
Speaker 4: Mobile network.
Speaker 2: Go figure.
Speaker 4: You can bring your own phone, you can get a
Speaker 4: phone with it. It's worthwhile looking into these different ones.
Speaker 4: Metro by T Mobile. They're unbelievable. But you have to
Speaker 4: see who they get their data plan from. And you know,
Speaker 4: I was shocked by AT and T. So these are
Speaker 4: fifteen dollars a month. Save your money. There's other places
Speaker 4: where you can spend it.
Speaker 2: That's the main takeaway. Save your money, Save your money.
Speaker 4: I'm keeping T Mobile because it has unlimited data in England,
Speaker 4: and I visit my family Lisa, and I don't like
Speaker 4: futson around with day passes.
Speaker 2: All these things have to fit your personal lifestyle. That's
Speaker 2: what it really comes down to.
Speaker 4: And there's an over fifty five plan on T Mobile.
Speaker 4: It's in flight for people who are over fifty five. Yes,
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear that. I don't want to
Speaker 4: hear that it's only forty dollars a month because I'd qualify.
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 4: For two lines it's eighty dollars.
Speaker 2: You have to have two lines so I can get
Speaker 2: that in a r and get discounts at Denny's and
Speaker 2: what else do you know?
Speaker 4: I won't even of course I'm not old enough. But
Speaker 4: AARP sends me their emails, right, I won't even open them.
Speaker 2: I refuse that stuff in the trash. I rebuke thee.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the magazine.
Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't answer this un solicited. I am not
Speaker 2: old enough for AARP. I don't care what your record show.
Speaker 4: And if you ever take a good look at the magazine,
Speaker 4: every story in the magazine is to scare you on
Speaker 4: someone who's going to take advantage of you. And how
Speaker 4: to avoid scams and do just they're trying to stay
Speaker 4: acting like they're trying to save your bacon.
Speaker 2: True story. I have never opened a page in the
Speaker 2: magazine because I refuse to allow that in my spirit,
Speaker 2: I'm not reading anything. Aarp I usually changed the channel
Speaker 2: when they have the Colonial Pen insurance commercials. It's like, nope,
Speaker 2: I refuse to acknowledge. What are you laughing at, Stefan?
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my My guess is colonial Pen? Well,
Speaker 2: this is not funny. I'm talking serious here. Have an
Speaker 2: emotional moment here.
Speaker 4: Just wait till you get post postcards from the Neptune Society.
Speaker 2: I haven't got that yet. Thank goodness. We got to
Speaker 2: get out of here. Martia Carlier is always great to
Speaker 2: see you.
Speaker 4: Always good to see you, mo. And it's a fun time.
Speaker 4: Let's enjoy our tech this week.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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