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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI.

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<v Speaker 2>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>From High Technology the Computer Store introducing Apple two, the

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<v Speaker 3>easy to operate home computer. Just took it up to

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<v Speaker 3>your TV to create dazzling Kelly displays, or.

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<v Speaker 2>You can balance your checkbook.

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<v Speaker 3>Kids can teach themselves arithmetic, or the family can invent

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<v Speaker 3>their own pong games.

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<v Speaker 4>The possibilities are endless.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Apple Too Good Personal Computer.

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<v Speaker 3>See it at High Technology the Computer Store.

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<v Speaker 2>Some commercials back in the day were just horrible. I

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<v Speaker 2>am six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk some tech with Marsha Caryer, who joins me in studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Marshall is always great to see you. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>coming out tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, those ads were unbelievable, but hey, some of them

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<v Speaker 4>that are going on now. I look at the commercial

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<v Speaker 4>and I go, what are they saying?

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<v Speaker 2>What are they selling that?

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<v Speaker 4>There's one I think it's for Apple. We finally figured

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<v Speaker 4>out and they have one of those blow up things

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<v Speaker 4>that they put on the corner to show a store.

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<v Speaker 4>It took me five times to figure out who who's

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<v Speaker 4>that it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a while since I've been in one of

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<v Speaker 2>my marketing classes in college, but one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that was instilled in me is it should be clear

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<v Speaker 2>what the product is. Right, whatever it is, guns, butter widgets,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. It should be clear what you're selling. And

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of great commercials out there in

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<v Speaker 2>the sense of oh they're funny, they're memorable, but I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't tell you what the product was and my life

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<v Speaker 2>depended on it.

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<v Speaker 4>And in my world, that's a big waste of money,

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<v Speaker 4>huge waste of money, the agency buying, the time, just

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<v Speaker 4>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Commercials do matter, and they move us to make these purchases.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're also products that we use which were free

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<v Speaker 2>and have had all sorts of positive impacts on what

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<v Speaker 2>we do. One of those was Skype. I swore by

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<v Speaker 2>Skype for many, many years. There was a way that

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<v Speaker 2>I used to actually call people once upon a time.

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<v Speaker 2>I used it for interviews, especially international interviews, because Skype

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<v Speaker 2>preceded all the zoom and stuff that you saw today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you were cutting edge. I was cutting edge.

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<v Speaker 4>I used it all the time. It worked in the

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<v Speaker 4>early days. Remember, it would sometimes get along sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but you know, it was a forerunner of all

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<v Speaker 2>that we take for granted today with Zoom and Microsoft

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<v Speaker 2>Teams or Google Hangouts or whatever. Skype's going away.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I have a question for you before we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about this. How important is it other than your work,

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<v Speaker 4>which is different just for personal use? How important is

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<v Speaker 4>video calling for you?

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<v Speaker 2>I would it's it's kind of important, if only because

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<v Speaker 2>when you say video calling in a general sense, it's

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<v Speaker 2>important because there are times where I'll use Google what

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<v Speaker 2>was Google Duo with my wife and other family members.

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<v Speaker 2>It has its place. I don't have a need for

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<v Speaker 2>it in my life personally professionally all day, every day.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, Professionally we use it, and unfortunately Skype is

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<v Speaker 4>going away. And remember Skype also had a chat feature.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of these don't have I, for example, Zoom,

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<v Speaker 4>which I don't really recommend for personal use to anybody

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<v Speaker 4>that is a business product. I don't know the chat feature.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't watch the chat while you're doing the video.

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<v Speaker 2>That never made any says to me, Why is it

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<v Speaker 2>that I have to pop out the chat and take

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<v Speaker 2>my attention away from the meeting to read the chat.

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<v Speaker 2>No one has figured out how to integrate it.

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<v Speaker 4>It should be like lower third right, maybe yes, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, but that I don't recommend that well, was

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<v Speaker 4>starting out with something negative. Let me start with something

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<v Speaker 4>I like, because, by the way, I am not a fan.

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<v Speaker 4>When my husband and I Google Duo, which was the predecessor,

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<v Speaker 4>let me get into Google Meet. It was the predecessor

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<v Speaker 4>to Google Meet. Google Meet was developed as a really

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<v Speaker 4>simple call solution for Android users, and it worked also

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<v Speaker 4>on iOS, which was great because my husband's on an

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<v Speaker 4>iPhone and I'm on Android. And when I traveled, I

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<v Speaker 4>could video call my husband. But we'd plan it ahead

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<v Speaker 4>of time, you know, like we'd text each other ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna call it. I can. Just the worst thing

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<v Speaker 4>in the world I can possibly imagine is my phone

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<v Speaker 4>ringing in a face pop up wanting to look at

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<v Speaker 4>me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I just.

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<v Speaker 4>Horrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>But the younger generation they swear by it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like almost an intrusion, invasion of privacy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and let's see we've set up permission for each other.

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<v Speaker 4>No thank you, no no, no, no no no. But

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<v Speaker 4>Google Meet is easy. We all have Google accounts. It

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<v Speaker 4>is so simple. You can do it on a mac,

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<v Speaker 4>you can do it on a PC. It's a friendlier Zoom.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know the iPhone people, but what about FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we can talk about FaceTime and somebody who has

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<v Speaker 4>an iPhone can send you a link to join a

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not usable by non non iOS people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes people, yeah so, And also there's this big foot

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<v Speaker 4>push on some of these platforms to have like minimum

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<v Speaker 4>fifty two people, the maximum fifty two people, or go

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<v Speaker 4>up to one hundred people. I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 4>but what was the biggest video call you've ever been on.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been on some with with hundreds No oh yeah, yeaheah.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's more like it was a media person It

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like a town hall type thing where you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't necessarily know everyone. It wasn't a meeting in that regard.

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<v Speaker 2>Guard But credit to Zoom for helping create that ecosystem.

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<v Speaker 2>Skype obviously was a Microsoft product. It's going away. Zoom

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<v Speaker 2>was not connected to any system per se. Teams is

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<v Speaker 2>I guess going to be the the the solution, which

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 4>The new Microsoft solution, and Teams is kind of clunky.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's very clunky. I choose not to use it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't use it. I only use it when somebody

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<v Speaker 4>sends me a link that we're going to have a

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<v Speaker 4>meeting on teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and they've chosen because if I have a choice,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not using teams exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I will choose generally Google Meet. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>my choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Most companies that I deal with, including full disclosure, iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>they use teams. That's the only time I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>use teams because someone else has said we got to

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<v Speaker 2>use teams for this meeting. That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you have to think about big companies and software

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<v Speaker 4>usage and their it to apartments and the things they

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<v Speaker 4>protect for and maybe there's something using Google Meat that

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<v Speaker 4>they're not prepared for. But they have got a plan

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<v Speaker 4>to make teams the safest way for you to do this,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have to realize that in companies. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>why I'm directing my stuff to just regular people right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Skype. I used to use it all the

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<v Speaker 4>time to call my family in England, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>like putting money in a payphone and I'd put in

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<v Speaker 4>like five dollars and I'd work it off, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of pennies here, a couple of pennies there,

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<v Speaker 4>and in one day, my balance disappeared like I then

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<v Speaker 4>I finally had been put in twenty bucks and it disappeared,

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<v Speaker 4>and nobody let me know about it. Changing the rules, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean they went to free Skype calling, or at least.

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<v Speaker 4>Skype they wanted more money it expired at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the month, or a subscription.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a Skype number for a quick second where

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<v Speaker 2>you could make a Skype call to an actual line

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<v Speaker 4>You could do that from the desktop app too, though

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<v Speaker 4>without number.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I was doing it for BBC interviews, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to Scotland and it was free. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>served a business purpose for.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, absolutely absolutely, But so I gave up on it,

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<v Speaker 4>you know when they took my money away. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I hold grudges, they Apple iPod, I hold grudges.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is going to happen? Then? For users like

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<v Speaker 2>me who like Skype there's utility in Skype, don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to teams.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it depends how much do you trust Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't trust anybody anything, definitely don't trust Facebook. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know where you're going with this. Please continue.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Facebook has Facebook Messenger and there are a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of young people who really swear by that they keep

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<v Speaker 4>that open on their phone all the time. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>like their messaging app. More of the advanced people are

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<v Speaker 4>using WhatsApp, which is an absolutely brilliant app. I even

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<v Speaker 4>figured how to backdoor into it. I had somebody I

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<v Speaker 4>put the app on my phone, did not upload my contacts,

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<v Speaker 4>but it had my phone number and I had somebody

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<v Speaker 4>from England call me, so then they became a contact.

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<v Speaker 4>So as long as somebody calls me first or calls

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<v Speaker 4>me with somebody else's number and I tap on that,

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<v Speaker 4>they still don't have my contact list.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good because I'm always leary of joining some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of communications service and they present it as convenience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're going to help you out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just upload your context. You don't have to input

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<v Speaker 2>yourself like, don't thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Just like both of us, we've got names in our

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<v Speaker 4>contact list who really don't want their phone numbers out

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<v Speaker 4>out in the wild. And well mo, if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to try WhatsApp, I will call you on WhatsApp and

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<v Speaker 4>once you have my number, then you can start. You

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<v Speaker 4>can call me, you can text me numbers. I can

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<v Speaker 4>text them to you, and you can build your directory.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I choose it. It's usually build it out

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<v Speaker 2>my house.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I like to build it myself, and I have,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, over the years, I have like about ten

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<v Speaker 4>people I use on WhatsApp. The video is perfect, you

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<v Speaker 4>can do large pictures, you can upload and it's video

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<v Speaker 4>or text.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that work well as well on a desktop as

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<v Speaker 2>it would up because I use scott Skype from the

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<v Speaker 2>desktop because I'm doing like work, presentations or interviews, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't use it on my phone so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I I don't use it on the desktop. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, and you know what I tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>Unless I've tested it myself, I'm not going to recommend

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<v Speaker 4>or tell you give you any bs here. I have

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<v Speaker 4>never done that, so I could not recommend it either way.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, when we come back, let's talk about some

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<v Speaker 2>of the the smaller providers. We know about Google five,

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<v Speaker 2>we know about Verizon, we know about T Mobile. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's some smaller ones which have entered the space, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to use their names yet. How viable,

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<v Speaker 2>how trustworthy, how dependable are they? And we want to

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<v Speaker 2>get some of your recommendations.

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<v Speaker 4>They're called MVN o's and you'll be surprised when you

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<v Speaker 4>hear which are actually mvn os.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Later with Mo Kelly. Marsha Coler joins me in

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if I AM six forty is Later with mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still teching with Marshall Colliery. I turned it into

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<v Speaker 2>a verb. I like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I do. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about mobile providers.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well interesting, do you ever think about the people

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<v Speaker 4>who are not Verizon, T, Mobile AT and T Do

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<v Speaker 4>you ever think about it? I mean, there are all

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<v Speaker 4>these other companies and and you know, there's a Cricket,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's Metro by T Mobile, and there's all these

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<v Speaker 4>different ones, and you wind that, of course the one

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<v Speaker 4>that Brian Reynolds advertises so successfully. What they're called these

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<v Speaker 4>little guys are m v n o's, and that stands

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<v Speaker 4>for Mobile Virtual Network Operators. Basically, they just lease time

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<v Speaker 4>with traditional MOBAL network operations to buy network access at

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<v Speaker 4>a wholesale costs because they say they're going to buy

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<v Speaker 4>this amount from them and then set their own retail prices.

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<v Speaker 4>This is kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I got so pissed off at AT and T. Can

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<v Speaker 4>I say that we're not going to dump it? Pissed off? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I just it was horrible. They kept raising their bill

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<v Speaker 4>and raising their bill, and it was just and literally

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<v Speaker 4>they lied to me on the phone. It was horrible.

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<v Speaker 4>So I said, I have to get out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to get out of here. And it's a

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<v Speaker 4>it was a landline that used to be my office line.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, But I can't give up the number. So

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<v Speaker 4>I went and I started researching all of this. What's

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<v Speaker 4>interesting is the reason on some of the networks you

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<v Speaker 4>get throttled when you reach a certain number of gigabytes

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<v Speaker 4>or something like that, is because they have network priority.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe Cricket is paying more than Google Fi. Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>Google Fi is an MVNO. They have the best providers,

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<v Speaker 4>and they have a prime their own seamless network switching technology,

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<v Speaker 4>and it toggles between all the major networks ensuring that

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<v Speaker 4>it's the best signal possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And for people who don't know, Let's say you had

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<v Speaker 2>Sprint back in the day, and you know there were

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<v Speaker 2>dead spots right when you had Sprint. When you have

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<v Speaker 2>Google Fi, it will find the best signal. It might

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<v Speaker 2>be Verizon in this area, it might be T Mobile

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<v Speaker 2>in another area. It could be AT and T in

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<v Speaker 2>another area. That's how Google Fi usually works.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so all these different ones, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 4>Verizon in AT and T put on face masks and

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<v Speaker 4>then give themselves new brand names to sound friendly. Why yes,

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<v Speaker 4>Infinity Mobile, this is Verizon TWIGB T ting Page plus

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<v Speaker 4>Spectrum Mobile. No Spectrum Mobile, that's Verizon's key m vn os.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I have Spectrum Mobile, I'm not actually getting

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<v Speaker 2>away from Verizon, right? Is this kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>difference between a Toyota and Alexis, a Nissan and an Infinity.

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<v Speaker 4>AT n T. Key m vn os include consumer, Cellular, Cricket, Freedom, Pop, Free,

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<v Speaker 4>up Mobile, straight Talk, track phone such bloney were they're

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<v Speaker 4>taking advantage of us. But I have to tell you,

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<v Speaker 4>I studied, I looked, and besides, I thought Ryan Reynolds

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<v Speaker 4>was kind of funny. And their website is written mint Mobile.

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<v Speaker 4>Mint Mobile is written in such plain language, and they're

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<v Speaker 4>so customer centric. And they had a plan for five

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<v Speaker 4>gigabytes a month, which is not enough for me. But

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<v Speaker 4>this is going to be a phone that sits in

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<v Speaker 4>my house so that I maintain this phone number that

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<v Speaker 4>I've had since I had my own business, and unlimited

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<v Speaker 4>talk and texts for fifteen dollars a month.

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<v Speaker 2>What about hidden fees or added on?

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<v Speaker 4>None? None, they mean fifteen dollars done. I paid for

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<v Speaker 4>a whole year. There were tech was tax on it.

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<v Speaker 4>I paid for a whole year and it was legit

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hard to pass up if you're not tied to

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<v Speaker 2>any carrier. Fifteen dollars a month, unlimited talk and text.

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<v Speaker 4>And let me just tell you for those of you said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know they're sharing the bandwidth and no, they buy

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<v Speaker 4>the bandwidth, think about the company you're dealing with. I

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<v Speaker 4>turned off the Wi Fi on that phone and I

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<v Speaker 4>had them send me a simchip. I like a simchip

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<v Speaker 4>better than an eSIM because you can change the phone easily.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a lesson for another day, but real quick I did.

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<v Speaker 4>If you ever go to Google type in Internet speed test,

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<v Speaker 4>something comes up, you tap on it and you can

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<v Speaker 4>test your speed. I had five hundred, five hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen point zero megabits per second download and fifty five

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<v Speaker 4>point four upload. That's unheard of.

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<v Speaker 2>That's unreal. You'd have to spend one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars a month to get done.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, and it was better than my T Mobile account.

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<v Speaker 4>And they get their dat their lines from the T

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<v Speaker 4>Mobile network.

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<v Speaker 2>Go figure.

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<v Speaker 4>You can bring your own phone, you can get a

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<v Speaker 4>phone with it. It's worthwhile looking into these different ones.

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<v Speaker 4>Metro by T Mobile. They're unbelievable. But you have to

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<v Speaker 4>see who they get their data plan from. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was shocked by AT and T. So these are

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen dollars a month. Save your money. There's other places

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<v Speaker 4>where you can spend it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the main takeaway. Save your money, Save your money.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm keeping T Mobile because it has unlimited data in England,

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<v Speaker 4>and I visit my family Lisa, and I don't like

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<v Speaker 4>futson around with day passes.

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<v Speaker 2>All these things have to fit your personal lifestyle. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what it really comes down to.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's an over fifty five plan on T Mobile.

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<v Speaker 4>It's in flight for people who are over fifty five. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to hear that. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>hear that it's only forty dollars a month because I'd qualify.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear that.

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<v Speaker 4>For two lines it's eighty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have two lines so I can get

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<v Speaker 2>that in a r and get discounts at Denny's and

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<v Speaker 2>what else do you know?

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<v Speaker 4>I won't even of course I'm not old enough. But

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<v Speaker 4>AARP sends me their emails, right, I won't even open them.

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<v Speaker 2>I refuse that stuff in the trash. I rebuke thee.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, the magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I didn't answer this un solicited. I am not

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<v Speaker 2>old enough for AARP. I don't care what your record show.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you ever take a good look at the magazine,

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<v Speaker 4>every story in the magazine is to scare you on

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<v Speaker 4>someone who's going to take advantage of you. And how

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<v Speaker 4>to avoid scams and do just they're trying to stay

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<v Speaker 4>acting like they're trying to save your bacon.

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<v Speaker 2>True story. I have never opened a page in the

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<v Speaker 2>magazine because I refuse to allow that in my spirit,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not reading anything. Aarp I usually changed the channel

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<v Speaker 2>when they have the Colonial Pen insurance commercials. It's like, nope,

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<v Speaker 2>I refuse to acknowledge. What are you laughing at, Stefan?

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<v Speaker 2>That was gonna be my My guess is colonial Pen? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not funny. I'm talking serious here. Have an

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<v Speaker 2>emotional moment here.

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<v Speaker 4>Just wait till you get post postcards from the Neptune Society.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't got that yet. Thank goodness. We got to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here. Martia Carlier is always great to

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<v Speaker 2>see you.

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<v Speaker 4>Always good to see you, mo. And it's a fun time.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's enjoy our tech this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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