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<v Speaker 1>You see somethings are going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What? What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the occult rejects today.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got a couple of rejects with me and we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be finishing up the CIA release of the

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<v Speaker 4>analysis of the Gateway Process.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be part three and I'm sure ending it

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're gonna introduce the other people that we got

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<v Speaker 4>on with us, Arose that rose up? What is going on?

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<v Speaker 4>And thank you very much again for this idea of

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<v Speaker 4>this topic.

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<v Speaker 1>The last what's up? Nick? It's great to be here

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<v Speaker 1>on this lovely Friday night. Yeah, you guys can check

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<v Speaker 1>me out on YouTube, arrows up and Twitter at arrows

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<v Speaker 1>to eat those happy to be here. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a fun ending, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you very much and Ethan, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Sir Solute? Everybody? Great to be here. It was a

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<v Speaker 5>really fun topic. I mean, we could spend another year

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<v Speaker 5>going over there. I feel like so this is this

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<v Speaker 5>has been really fun, is going to continue to be

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<v Speaker 5>really fun. Ethan Indigo Smith easy to find online on

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<v Speaker 5>all the social media, and I appreciate people reaching out

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<v Speaker 5>and a few books and many articles out there and

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<v Speaker 5>more to come. Appreciate you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you and Judith please the Loon let everybody

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<v Speaker 4>know what's up to.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me here today. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>topic I'm very interested in. And you can find me

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<v Speaker 3>on YouTube under the Loon and on x under them

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, Thank you very much. I'm glad you joined this.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it. Yeah and uh yeah, uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah last week or last week two weeks ago. I

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<v Speaker 4>think we ended on twenty seven. I guess I'll pull

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<v Speaker 4>it up to you know. I think we were sharing

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<v Speaker 4>it on the screen last huh, yeah, we go. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>you got twenty eight. I'll be totally honest with you,

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<v Speaker 4>unless any of yours. Remember, I really don't remember what

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<v Speaker 4>we spoked about in the last episode. So but uh,

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<v Speaker 4>did we get until we got into the whole matrix

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<v Speaker 4>thing already?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? No? Oh? I think sure, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just we'll just continue off. My bad. I put

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<v Speaker 2>everybody on the spot. It was too long ago. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go, Uh I guess, uh oh wait, let

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<v Speaker 2>me put on the screen too. There we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you need it up on the screen? I was

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<v Speaker 4>to read it or oh you're muted, so I can

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<v Speaker 4>make it big of.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it up on my screen to oh yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. Okay, So we're on section twenty eight the

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<v Speaker 1>Gateway method. Having put the Gateway experience experience in context

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<v Speaker 1>by postulating a structural outline of how and why it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to work, and having shown what it is designed

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve, the time has come to examine the specific

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<v Speaker 1>techniques which comprise the Gateway training process. These techniques are

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<v Speaker 1>designed to enable the user of the Gateway tapes to

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<v Speaker 1>manipulate the high energy states which can be achieved if

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<v Speaker 1>the user continues to work with the tapes over a

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<v Speaker 1>period of time. The amount of time required to reach

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<v Speaker 1>advance energy states and to fully exploit the tech niques

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<v Speaker 1>varies with the individual. The sensitivity of his nervous system,

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<v Speaker 1>his general state of mind, and the extent to which

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<v Speaker 1>he may have previously developed facility and related techniques such

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<v Speaker 1>as transcendental meditation are all pertinent factors affecting the speed

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<v Speaker 1>at which he may expect to progress. The Gateway process

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<v Speaker 1>begins by teaching the individual participant to isolate extraneous concerns

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<v Speaker 1>in a visualization device called energy conversion box. Next, the

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<v Speaker 1>participant is introduced to a method of encouraging his mind

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<v Speaker 1>and body to strive to achieve a state of resonance

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<v Speaker 1>through utterance of a single tone, a monotonous, protracted humming

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<v Speaker 1>sound that sets up a feeling of vibration, particularly in

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<v Speaker 1>the head. He engages in this resonant tuning, as it

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<v Speaker 1>is called by humming, along with a chorus of such

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<v Speaker 1>sounds that are contained on the Gateway tape. Following this,

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<v Speaker 1>the participant is exposed to the Gateway affirmation and is

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<v Speaker 1>encouraged to repeat it to himself as he hears it

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<v Speaker 1>repeated on the tape. This affirmation is a statement to

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<v Speaker 1>the effect that the individual realizes that he is more

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<v Speaker 1>than merely a physical body, and that he deeply desires

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<v Speaker 1>to expand his consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, have any views ever used the tapes? No, we're

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<v Speaker 2>just looking.

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<v Speaker 1>On I haven't, but you had mentioned that you did

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of humming.

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<v Speaker 4>It definitely is a humming. And then I didn't remember

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of like it sounds like like pink noise

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<v Speaker 4>and white noise. A lot of that going on too,

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<v Speaker 4>And there was things I did notice that isn't always

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<v Speaker 4>in stereo either.

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<v Speaker 1>Like oh like by neural.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you'll have.

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<v Speaker 4>Like different sounds, like you'll have one sound in this

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah it's probably to HEMI sink. Maybe that was the

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<v Speaker 4>Binur report, but yeah, you wouldn't have the same sounds.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do remember a humming. It was almost like

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<v Speaker 4>like kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Like electrical humming. So have to explain.

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<v Speaker 4>And the conversion box, I remember that. I thought that

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<v Speaker 4>was the longer down the road because I thought, if

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<v Speaker 4>I remember at the beginning, you had like some type

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<v Speaker 4>of box that you put like your fears into, so

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<v Speaker 4>like supposedly like you didn't have to deal with that

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<v Speaker 4>once you went out there some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's like what my friend was telling me too,

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<v Speaker 1>which is interesting because they do that same type of

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<v Speaker 1>thing in therapy sometimes, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I've heard of.

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<v Speaker 5>It reminds me as you just read, I haven't done

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<v Speaker 5>the process, but I have dabbled in different meditation techniques,

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<v Speaker 5>and one I learned actually was related to the humming bird.

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<v Speaker 5>And you would actually try to like hum yourself and

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<v Speaker 5>create a vibration inside your you know, brain glands and

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<v Speaker 5>and meditate and so you literally were physically getting into

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<v Speaker 5>your penial glands and propitary gland through this humming and vibration,

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<v Speaker 5>and and that that whole problem. That's just that whole

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<v Speaker 5>humming techniques just made me think.

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<v Speaker 4>About you know what, I just reminded me of Judith

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<v Speaker 4>vibrating the God voices, like the vibrations that you do

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<v Speaker 4>in the rituals, you know what I'm saying, or like

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<v Speaker 4>the own that we would do sometimes before like the

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<v Speaker 4>Gnostic Mass or whatever, like after you got you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes they would do that, or you know, vibrating God

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<v Speaker 4>names and doing the pentagram.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually it's not in that, It's been done actually in

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<v Speaker 3>uh when I practice Wicca. It was also done in

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<v Speaker 3>that at that aspect too during meditation. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>also going to bring up if you go to there's

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<v Speaker 3>different forms of therapy, and it sounds a similar to

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<v Speaker 3>somethings you sometimes when you go to a therapist that

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<v Speaker 3>use biofeedback.

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<v Speaker 2>M I've mentioned that, So I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of surprised because that means they probably got that

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<v Speaker 3>technique from here.

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<v Speaker 6>Using that to help people through therapy.

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<v Speaker 5>There is also the there's a story about how this

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<v Speaker 5>guy Monroe started his process or or realizing something was

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<v Speaker 5>going on as he was having vibrations in his whole

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<v Speaker 5>body and he even went to the doctor and there

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<v Speaker 5>he was like, you know, it's just nerves. Don't worry,

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<v Speaker 5>and very much like Kundolini, almost like or or Chie,

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<v Speaker 5>you kind of get spontaneous movement, you get heat generating

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<v Speaker 5>buzz if you will, would.

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<v Speaker 3>You consider that the same as if you're doing a ritual,

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<v Speaker 3>Like maybe this is me, but I'm sure if you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing a ritual and you're you're you raised enough energy,

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<v Speaker 3>there is that vibration that happens and it is like

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<v Speaker 3>a humming in your ear that only you can hear. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming everybody goes through that that you hear, So

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that's another thing that trying to emulate as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever done rituals, Judith? Then you have to

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<v Speaker 4>get done. You realize like, holy shit, I'm sweating. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>does just sound glamorous. But there's been many at times

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<v Speaker 4>where I'm like holy fuck, like like where did that

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<v Speaker 4>come from?

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<v Speaker 3>Many away from there's a many times I walked away

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<v Speaker 3>from rituals being so high it's not funny. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>to the point where I have to drink salt water

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<v Speaker 3>if I need to ground myself. So I'm thinking when

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<v Speaker 3>you talk about when they when they say that, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm thinking about. It's like maybe I'm misinterpreting. Is

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<v Speaker 3>like the vibration is so high that you're feeling it

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<v Speaker 3>that way, and that's how you're feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>I've thought about that, like, you know, like they're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about on here with like I guess this sounds being

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<v Speaker 4>pushed on to you through the headphones. I you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think when I came across this, it made me

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<v Speaker 4>wonder about like a lot of the vibrations of this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Crowley thoroughly suggests you should be vibrating that

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<v Speaker 4>into like exhaustion, you know, like they very much focus

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<v Speaker 4>on vibrating certain sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I even wonder if that's what, like, if that's why

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<v Speaker 4>there's even the certain god names or whatever angel names

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<v Speaker 4>that you're using. Is it just really that frequency you're

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be, you know, doing to yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You're resonating your whole body with that.

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<v Speaker 3>If you think about it sounds as being is it

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<v Speaker 3>is an activator If you have in trouble sleeping, what

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<v Speaker 3>do they say, get a white noise? Machine to help

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<v Speaker 3>relax you. So it kind of makes sense that they

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<v Speaker 3>would just stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder about you know who knows?

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<v Speaker 4>I'll read next? Anybody has anything else? All right, let

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<v Speaker 4>me pull it up on my hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Hemi sync introduced.

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<v Speaker 4>After that, he's exposed for the first time to the

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<v Speaker 4>Hemi sync sound frequencies and is encouraged to focus on

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<v Speaker 4>and develop a perception of an appreciation for those feelings

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<v Speaker 4>which accompany the synchronization of brain waves that results. Next

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<v Speaker 4>comes the technique of progressive and systematic physical relaxation, while

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<v Speaker 4>the Hemi sink frequencies are expanded to include additional forms

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<v Speaker 4>of pink and white noise designed to put the physical

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<v Speaker 4>body at the virtual threshold of sleep as well as

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<v Speaker 4>to threshold of sleep, as well as to calm the

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<v Speaker 4>left hemisphere of the mind while raising the right hemisphere

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<v Speaker 4>to a state of heightened attentiveness. Once all this is achieved,

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<v Speaker 4>the participant is invited to envisage envision what a creation

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<v Speaker 4>of an energy balloon.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that one comprise.

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<v Speaker 4>Of an energy flow beginning at the center of the

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<v Speaker 4>top of the head and extending down in old directions

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<v Speaker 4>to the feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically kind of put yourself like in a bubble.

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<v Speaker 4>The energy involved in this flow then proceeds up through

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<v Speaker 4>the body and.

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<v Speaker 2>Back out of the balloon pattern again, the energy balloon.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>That even reminds me a little bit of the middle pillar,

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<v Speaker 4>because like I think, if you do the visuals correctly,

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<v Speaker 4>you do have like that you're making some sort of

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<v Speaker 4>thing come out of you. Again, like that a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of the same style. The energy balloon, which sets

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<v Speaker 4>up a pattern very reminiscent of the cosmic egg discussed earlier,

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<v Speaker 4>an out of bodies out of body state. I find

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<v Speaker 4>that interesting that they're like, I guess saying that, Does

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, non physical consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I feel like there are omitting that that exists.

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<v Speaker 1>Then if does I mean I think you talk about

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, there is a whole layer of this despite its

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<v Speaker 5>you know, bureaucratic and observations. That is really interesting in

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<v Speaker 5>the Bible, all the New Testament, all these ideas where

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<v Speaker 5>then you read something like that and this you know

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<v Speaker 4>Thing, uh oh, just lessons It serves a precautionary purpose

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<v Speaker 4>in the unlikely event that the participants first out of

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting is.

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<v Speaker 4>That tell you like there's different levels, like different depths

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they ever like expand on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, well, it reminds me of what Lunz just said

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<v Speaker 5>about staying grounded. When you're grounded, I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 5>mean you could take that any number aways being grounded.

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<v Speaker 5>But sometimes I hear people say like, oh, the energy

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<v Speaker 1>To say too. Judith had mentioned drinking saltwater. That's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I find in the winter it's like very hard for

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<v Speaker 1>in nature, and it's harder to do that in the winter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to have to try drinking some salt water.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done that.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a method.

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<v Speaker 3>You living in the city, there's not many places. There's

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<v Speaker 3>not many how can I say, parks to ground yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>so that that's a quick and easy way.

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<v Speaker 6>But I would rather go to nature. Actually the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>I've done the same thing. It was on the altar

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, well, its saltwater right here. That

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<v Speaker 4>kind of makes sense. Uh, how we do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Pulled up on the screenflay, Oh, I got it here

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<v Speaker 5>at number thirty right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Having reached focus ten, the participant is now ready to

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<v Speaker 5>endeavor to achieve a state of sufficiently expanded awareness to

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<v Speaker 5>experience experience of physical reality. This state is called focus

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<v Speaker 5>twelve and involves conscious efforts on his part while additional

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<v Speaker 5>forms of pink and white noise enter the soundstream being

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<v Speaker 5>directed into his ears from the Gateway tape. Once the

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<v Speaker 5>participant has achieved this state of greatly expanded awareness, he

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<v Speaker 5>is ready to begin employing a series of specific techniques

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<v Speaker 5>or tools, as the Monroe Institute characterizes them, which enable

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<v Speaker 5>him to manipulate his newly found expanded awareness to obtain practical,

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<v Speaker 5>useful feedback of value for promoting self discovery and personal growth.

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<v Speaker 5>The specific technique techniques involved are described individually below.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Interesting. What do you think about the pink and white nick?

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<v Speaker 4>I did notice that myself when I use the tape. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>that was I think the difference in the tones, like

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<v Speaker 4>you remember what I was saying, like even had different sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I don't know if it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it might have had pink and white noise

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<v Speaker 4>in each year, but I did definitely notice the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that they were in that.

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<v Speaker 6>I do have a question.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm familiar with white noise, this is the first time

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hearing about pink noise, so I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you could describe it for me.

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<v Speaker 6>What would you consider pink noise.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll see if I can pull it up and play it,

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<v Speaker 4>actually play it through YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, why not?

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<v Speaker 6>It's no longer Google anymore. It's no longer Google it anymore?

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<v Speaker 6>Is YouTube it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yep? YouTube? Here we go. I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're saying that Google sucks now. It's like Google's.

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<v Speaker 5>Getting worse, horrendous for any search. It's awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like almost like a deeper

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<v Speaker 2>white noise. Did you guys hear it?

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<v Speaker 5>I can't hear it. No, no, I heard it.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it.

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<v Speaker 5>I heard it first. Okay, hell that.

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<v Speaker 1>I can smell that. I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I remember. Yes, you get that and that

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<v Speaker 2>white noise for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And do you even have the guy talking to you too,

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<v Speaker 4>telling you like it's almost like a guided meditation at

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<v Speaker 4>some point at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know that guy he had.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I might have been mentioned like I had

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<v Speaker 4>like a fuck ton of like broadcasting companies, which is

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<v Speaker 4>really interesting.

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<v Speaker 7>Like.

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<v Speaker 4>A guy who's making tapes and stuff like this also

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<v Speaker 4>has the means of sending it out through the airwaves,

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<v Speaker 4>like wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Knows about hypnosis and stuff that's not sketch at all.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes me think that he was just like so

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<v Speaker 5>nerding out with different noises, and you know, just like

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<v Speaker 2>But there's something would you leave off? Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I took it off the screen problem? So alright,

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<v Speaker 4>Joy picked that one up? Oh no, no, Judith, you

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<v Speaker 4>want to go I want to read that one? Or okay,

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<v Speaker 4>Johnny pulled up on the screen for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, if you can't play, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>See I got you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, let me screw that one up subscreen his screen.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go, all right, there we go.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a problem solving, yes, okay. This technique involves

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<v Speaker 3>in identifying fundamental problems which the individual wishes to be solved,

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<v Speaker 3>filling his expanded awareness with his perception of these problems,

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<v Speaker 3>and then projecting them out into the universe. In this way,

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<v Speaker 3>the individual enlists the assistance of what Monroe Institute calls

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<v Speaker 3>his higher self, in other words, his expanded consciousness, to

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<v Speaker 3>interact with the universal hologram to obtain the information required

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<v Speaker 3>to solve the problem. This approach may be used to

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<v Speaker 3>solve personal difficulties, technical problems in the realm of psych

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<v Speaker 3>of physics, mathematics, etc. Practical administrative problems and so on.

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<v Speaker 3>Responses to the problem solving technique may be received almost immediately,

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<v Speaker 3>but often they come based on developing institution intuition over

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<v Speaker 3>the next two to three days frequency. Frequently, sorry, frequently,

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<v Speaker 3>the response comes in the form of a sudden holistic perception,

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<v Speaker 3>in which the individual suddenly finds that he simply knows

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<v Speaker 3>the answer in all of its ramifications and complete completely

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<v Speaker 3>in context, sometimes without even being able to put his

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<v Speaker 3>newly found perception into words, at least initially. In some cases,

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<v Speaker 3>the response may even arrive in the form of visual symbolism,

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<v Speaker 3>visual symbols which the individual will see with his mind

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<v Speaker 3>while he is in the focused twelve state, and which

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<v Speaker 3>he will have to interpret after he returns to normal consciousness.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, it sounds like some modern affirmations and manifestation techniques

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<v Speaker 5>kind of thing, right, Like you put your idea out

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<v Speaker 5>there and you make it happen in a case at first.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it makes me think of like the higher guardian

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<v Speaker 1>angel or the daemon.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I even thought, uh, setting your intentions.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you're very much like kind of ritual right,

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<v Speaker 4>like kind of like saying what you want to get

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<v Speaker 4>out of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but they're suggesting that there's this inter mediary

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be very holy guardian angel for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>It's also those that like to do dream work too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Actually, anything like if you're kind of involving an angel,

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<v Speaker 4>or trying to pass the message on to somebody who

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<v Speaker 4>can deliver the message, you know, like even using to

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<v Speaker 4>hoodie or get you know, Gabrielle, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>or even.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you could use what was his fuck?

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<v Speaker 4>I forgot his name, Hercules. Wasn't he known to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to go between both worlds too? Or some shit?

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<v Speaker 1>H carey Mercury, Yeah, Mercury, san Hecita technically.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I wonder if that's all kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. All right? Uh did you want to go?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, uh, yes, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Patterning this technique involves use of the consciousness to achieve

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<v Speaker 1>desired objectives in the physical, emotional, or intellectual sphere. It

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<v Speaker 1>involves concentration on the desired objective while in a focused

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<v Speaker 1>twelve state, extension of the individual's perception of that objective

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<v Speaker 1>into the whole expanded consciousness and its projection into the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>with the intention that the desired objectivetive is already a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of established achievement which is destined to be realized

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<v Speaker 1>within the time frame specified. This particular methodology is based

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<v Speaker 1>on the belief that the thought patterns generated by our

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<v Speaker 1>consciousness in a state of expanded awareness create holograms which

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<v Speaker 1>represent this situation we desire to bring about, and in

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<v Speaker 1>so doing establish the basis for actual realization of that goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the thought generated hologram of the sought after objective

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<v Speaker 1>is established in the universe, it becomes an aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>reality which interacts with the universal hologram to bring about

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<v Speaker 1>the desired objective, which might not, under other circumstances ever occur.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, the technique of patterning recognizes the fact that,

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<v Speaker 1>since consciousness is the source of all reality, our thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>have the power to influence the development of reality in

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<v Speaker 1>time space as it applies to us, if those thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>can be projected with adequate intensity. However, the more complicated

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<v Speaker 1>the objective sought and the more radically it departs from

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<v Speaker 1>our current reality, the more time the universal hologram will

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<v Speaker 1>need to reorient our reality sphere to accommodate our desires.

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<v Speaker 1>Monroe trainers cautioned against attempting to force the pace of

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<v Speaker 1>this process because the individual could succeed in dislocating his

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<v Speaker 1>existing reality with drastic consequences. That's so crazy, I because

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<v Speaker 1>I always think that too, because in my experience, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been able to manifest things, but it

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<v Speaker 1>does it takes time for like I feel like it too,

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<v Speaker 1>for it to come into being. It's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>almost like there are certain necessities. I really do think

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<v Speaker 1>that you can negotiate with the universe to a certain level,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes, like I think, it just depends on how

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<v Speaker 1>far outside of alignment you are, because like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have to kind of work with your higher self, right,

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<v Speaker 1>then it has to be something authentic to you. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if like you're far further away from that authenticity,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's going to take longer for the universe to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of be able to reach you and meet up

433
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<v Speaker 1>with you to kind of help you out there. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, it's not just you in the universe,

435
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<v Speaker 1>it's like all these other people trying to manifest their

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<v Speaker 1>own things as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We got somebody in the chat. I think there are

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're on Ethan. I think they might be

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<v Speaker 2>on your YouTube. Looks like leaf.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, let's say it's not mine. They it looks

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<v Speaker 4>like I think they might have had experience with this.

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<v Speaker 4>They have like a lot of comments. I can see

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<v Speaker 4>it on my end because I see every comment. If

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<v Speaker 4>this person is interested in coming on and talking about

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<v Speaker 4>your experience, so send me an email.

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<v Speaker 2>Please.

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00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 4>You can look on a you call it reject's YouTube,

448
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<v Speaker 4>and there's an email context.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to let them know so they could

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<v Speaker 2>hear it. I can't. I can't comment on your YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>from here, so we'll let them know.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I didn't know. I can't see the difference. Yeah,

453
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<v Speaker 5>dropping some very interesting ideas. I can't help but think

454
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<v Speaker 5>about the idea of how you do one thing is

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<v Speaker 5>how you do everything. Whenever I see the word pattern

456
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:04.559
<v Speaker 5>and people in a pattern or another and this, this idea,

457
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:08.960
<v Speaker 5>and really the whole document really makes me think about

458
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<v Speaker 5>chi and this this one really has a warning about

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<v Speaker 5>she overload might be a way that some practitioners might

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<v Speaker 5>term it right, like don't don't go too far without

461
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<v Speaker 5>setting yourself grounded or you're gonna lose uh, you know,

462
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<v Speaker 5>however they termed it, you know, lose connection with this

463
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:39.039
<v Speaker 5>reality too much, and uh or you know, uh be

464
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<v Speaker 5>ungrounded and or you know, even physically sickened and and

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<v Speaker 5>Chi in its most basic sense is compressed air. That's

466
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<v Speaker 5>the exoteric uh definition of chi. The esoteric definition is

467
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<v Speaker 5>infused with mind. Instead of infusing the body with compressed air,

468
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<v Speaker 5>we infuse the body with mind and even beyond that,

469
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<v Speaker 5>which this whole gateway instruction and technique suggests too. The

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<v Speaker 5>Tao or the taching and different Dallas teachings always talk

471
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<v Speaker 5>about how them and Buddhists too, but the mind is everywhere,

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<v Speaker 5>and so these this psychic phenomenon in this in this

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<v Speaker 5>teaching is it's like very psychic Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what what seemed a little bit off the

476
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<v Speaker 5>wall now is like, oh yeah, they were just on

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the higher level of mind.

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<v Speaker 1>How did they know?

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<v Speaker 5>How did they know? What?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know? Just like all of these ancient teachings.

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<v Speaker 5>Right right, yeah, yeah, right, No, it's it's it's really

482
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<v Speaker 5>it's so corresponds that it's like they're just saying the

483
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<v Speaker 5>same thing in a different term in different terminology.

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<v Speaker 4>The next one we got, uh, before we get into it,

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<v Speaker 4>color breathing. Did you ever do stuff like that? You

486
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<v Speaker 4>just like meditation with like color breathing and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I have to say no. Actually I saw that title.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm very interested and I'm intrigued.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've done stuff like that or did you ever do? It?

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<v Speaker 4>Was something that I've heard like, uh suggested multiple times

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<v Speaker 4>from different people, like breathing in the white and like

492
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<v Speaker 4>exhaling black. You never even heard like that suggestion for like, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't, yes, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I never I actually, to tell you the truth, until

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00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 3>you said that, I never put the two together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because if you're doing the mill, if you're doing the

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<v Speaker 3>middle pillar, or even when you're doing chakra alignment alignments,

498
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<v Speaker 3>you're you're you're you're you're looking at the colors as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've actually done this one. It seems to just

501
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 1>be kind of to like, uh, get any like uh

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<v Speaker 1>nasty vibration or whatever out of you, so you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like at a nice even energy state. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I do, like, uh, I do think for myself breath

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<v Speaker 4>work and visualizations. That was something I did a lot.

506
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<v Speaker 4>I was very much into it and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think I might have helped with my experience. No,

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<v Speaker 4>right here we go, uh colib breathing. The next technique

509
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:57.759
<v Speaker 4>is called color breathing and is designed to use the

510
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<v Speaker 4>expanded awareness and highly focused at inventiveness associated with the

511
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<v Speaker 4>focused twelve state to imagine various colors in a particulars

512
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<v Speaker 4>particularly intense and vivid manner, so as to use them

513
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<v Speaker 4>to resonate with and in turn to activate the body's

514
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<v Speaker 4>own energies. Fundamentally, in terms of practical application, it is

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<v Speaker 4>a healing technique which is designed to restore the body

516
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<v Speaker 4>and to enhance its physical capabilities by balancing, revitalizing, and

517
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:36.400
<v Speaker 4>returning bodily energy flows. It is uh pre predicted predictated,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know on the principles that the bodies electromagnetic

519
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<v Speaker 4>field is capable of altering its resonance pattern so as

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<v Speaker 4>to entrain energy from the Earth's electrostatic field for its

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<v Speaker 4>own use. That's interesting because I feel like that is

522
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<v Speaker 4>a theory on like a like a lot of pyramids

523
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<v Speaker 4>and monoliths, not mon the pyramids and like like you know,

524
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 4>architecture like that. They do question if it is tapping

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<v Speaker 4>into the grounds electromagnetic field on the various colors. I

526
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<v Speaker 4>don't know how to say that, and the imagination as

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<v Speaker 4>part of the technique Q that que the mind as

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<v Speaker 4>to which frequencies and what specific amplitudes are desired in

529
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<v Speaker 4>connection with the entrainment and the subsequent alterations and bodily

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<v Speaker 4>energy flow patterns. The color has the capacity to affect

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<v Speaker 4>the human mind is well known, and the effectuality of

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00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 4>color and certain kinds of healing is a demonstratible, demonstrable fact.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, application of an intense blue light to an

534
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 4>area of physical two messence leads to relatively rapid and

535
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 4>easily observable reduction in the swelling, while red and to

536
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.440
<v Speaker 4>a lesser extent, yellow have quite the opposite effect.

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<v Speaker 2>This.

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<v Speaker 4>People are interested in stuff like that with colors. The

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<v Speaker 4>color series I have, there was some interesting stuff about

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00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:07.639
<v Speaker 4>like how colors can affect people and stuff. However, in

541
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.920
<v Speaker 4>the hemi sync application of the technique, external light sources

542
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 4>are not involved, but rather the mind is the sole

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<v Speaker 4>agent of the healing and revitalization.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah it's a powerful last sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yes, Like she don't need the color. You

546
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 2>just got to be able to vision it. Yourself. It

547
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>will still work you like you know what I'm saying, Like.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I find that pull section very interesting because it talks

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<v Speaker 3>about the electromagnetic field around you as a human being,

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<v Speaker 3>and I never thought about applying colors to it when

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<v Speaker 3>I did my research.

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<v Speaker 6>And actually the research I was doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't have that element in there, which I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to re visit that research again to see how that

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<v Speaker 3>how it may affect what they have already put out

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<v Speaker 3>there prior to this.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh shure, it's super interesting. Yeah, yeah, go to the

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00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:20.199
<v Speaker 5>next one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and that would be this one.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually would treat me when I was just scanning over it.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Magic wands and enchanted scepters have been part of the

565
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 5>folklore and occult practices of many cultures. I mean, this

566
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 5>is amazing. The sceptors, staffs, and maces carried by monarchs

567
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 5>and high priests alike occur with such frequency in the

568
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 5>history of bygone eras as to suggest that at the

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<v Speaker 5>very least these items are aspects of some type of

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00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 5>archetypal symbol which the um mind seems to appreciate, perhaps

571
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 5>quite subliminally. In any case, the energy bar tool technique

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00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 5>involves envisaging a small, intensely pulsating dot of light, which

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<v Speaker 5>the participant puts. Participant charges in his imagination with enormous

574
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:31.360
<v Speaker 5>energy until it is virtually pulsating. The participant then extrudes

575
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<v Speaker 5>the dot into the shape of a sparkling, vibrating cylinder

576
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 5>of energy, which he then uses to channel force from

577
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<v Speaker 5>the universe to selected parts of his body for purposes

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00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:51.320
<v Speaker 5>of healing and revitalization. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>That reminds me so much of like like even just

580
00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:03.119
<v Speaker 4>charging stuff magically, Like uh, I don't like you're gonna

581
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<v Speaker 4>sit there and charge a talisman or if you're charging

582
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:09.320
<v Speaker 4>the sigil or would and you know, like charging your

583
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.000
<v Speaker 4>wand like if you're like if you know, if you

584
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.440
<v Speaker 4>just made a new wand you want to consecrate it

585
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.719
<v Speaker 4>and do all that stuff, it's like the same ship.

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00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 5>And and uh, you know it. It reminds me of

587
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:24.320
<v Speaker 5>the pillars. It reminds me of the staff of you

588
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 5>know both or taoodie and and everywhere you look they're

589
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:34.440
<v Speaker 5>carrying a stick, you know or something. It's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, uh I guess yeah, you think you

591
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Speaker 2>could eat.

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00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:46.840
<v Speaker 6>Remote viewing.

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<v Speaker 3>In addition, the energy bar tool is used as a

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<v Speaker 3>portal for initiating a follow on technique called remote viewing.

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<v Speaker 3>In this context, the participant turns his bar of energy

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<v Speaker 3>into a whirling vortex through which he sends his imagination

597
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 3>in search of new and illuminating insights. The apparent purpose

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00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 3>of the symbolism involved in the vortex seems to be

599
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 3>seems to be cue toque the subconscious and convey to

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<v Speaker 3>its instructions as to what the participant wishes to do.

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<v Speaker 3>But in terms of nonverbal symbols which the right hemisphere

602
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:39.800
<v Speaker 3>of the mind is capable of understanding, I don't know.

603
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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm off, but to me, this sounds a little

604
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<v Speaker 3>bit like astral projection, just not with the remote viewing part.

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<v Speaker 3>The remote view point part is to me is more focused.

606
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<v Speaker 3>But it sounds like if you practice astral projection, this

607
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<v Speaker 3>part would be very easy for you, if you're someone

608
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<v Speaker 3>who does it on the regular.

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<v Speaker 5>My opinion, and I know I'm stuck on taichi as always,

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<v Speaker 5>but if you practice with a stick, and there's an

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<v Speaker 5>expression every taichi, good tai chi practitioner should have a stick.

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<v Speaker 5>And there is the point of the stick which was

613
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.760
<v Speaker 5>mentioned in the energy bar process but it is also,

614
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 5>of course a stick. It's a line, and then this

615
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:34.159
<v Speaker 5>process just mentioned spinning it. When you start spinning your stick,

616
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:38.360
<v Speaker 5>it's turned into then a three dimensional and even a

617
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.960
<v Speaker 5>four dimensional space that you take over, not four dimensional rather,

618
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.639
<v Speaker 5>but a two dimensional and then three dimensional space that

619
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:50.000
<v Speaker 5>you are, you know, swinging the stick around. So they're

620
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:55.400
<v Speaker 5>like taking this basic, horrible martial stick idea and making

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00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:01.159
<v Speaker 5>it into this psychic technique.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of just like projecting your imagination out is

623
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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy because then like what is the implications

624
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<v Speaker 1>there on what imagination is.

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00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>All those really really remind me of just like practices

627
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:25.239
<v Speaker 4>in magic and ceremonent magic and meditations anyway. I mean,

628
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<v Speaker 4>even if you're doing a spell, I mean I've heard

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<v Speaker 4>it suggested to like literally try to envision like it happening,

630
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.880
<v Speaker 4>but what you actually want to happen, Like close your

631
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<v Speaker 4>eyes and try to like make that vision happen or

632
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:40.760
<v Speaker 4>that scene or a movie.

633
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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've heard that.

634
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<v Speaker 4>So it's like kind of like you're really trying to

635
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<v Speaker 4>project like your own your own imagination to come true.

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<v Speaker 1>You would think creatives would probably be like especially good

637
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<v Speaker 1>at magic is it my my, uh all right? Living

638
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<v Speaker 1>body map. This technique provides amplification for application of the

639
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:15.840
<v Speaker 1>energy bar tool as a means of healing specific areas

640
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<v Speaker 1>or systems of the human body. The configuration of the

641
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>participant's body is imagined, and then the various major systems

642
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>such as the nervous and circulatory systems, are in visaged

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<v Speaker 1>in appropriate colors within the confines of the outline being

644
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<v Speaker 1>held in the imagination. The energy bar tool is then

645
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<v Speaker 1>applied to energizing, balancing, and healing in whatever manner the

646
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:52.880
<v Speaker 1>participant desires. In the process, the participant visualizes various streams

647
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 1>of colored energy flowing out of the tool into the

648
00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 1>organ system or area upon which the revitalizing or healing

649
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 1>application is being made. Since colors are the result of

650
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:11.079
<v Speaker 1>differing wavelengths of light, which is to say, energy at

651
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<v Speaker 1>various frequencies, this technique operates on the assumption that as

652
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<v Speaker 1>the human human body is composed of energy, it can

653
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<v Speaker 1>be vitalized and healed through the additive application of additional energy,

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<v Speaker 1>provided that the energy is applied in the appropriate form like.

655
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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they had ideas of.

656
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<v Speaker 4>Like is there certain colors that are better for certain things,

657
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:44.280
<v Speaker 4>and that's being left out, and it's like it's just

658
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<v Speaker 4>not being mentioned, you know what I'm saying.

659
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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, So go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>I just mostly going to say that reminds me of

661
00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:00.960
<v Speaker 5>so many different like healing, visualization, or meditation practices.

662
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<v Speaker 4>Right, yeah, I have heard like overall it's always like, uh,

663
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:10.079
<v Speaker 4>oh god, what a what color is? Oh fuck, I'm

664
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<v Speaker 4>trying to remember this. It's not purple, but very close

665
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:18.039
<v Speaker 4>to it. Uh yeah, there's a crystal that's very much

666
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 4>the same color.

667
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Fuck, I can't remember, but you vision this huh amethyst?

668
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:24.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

669
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, whatever color you consider amathyst like, yeah, like

670
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 4>that throughout your body and that supposedly is like a

671
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:35.280
<v Speaker 4>healing color, like a stronger one. But I'm just wondering, like,

672
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 4>is there other ones be better for different parts of

673
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:44.039
<v Speaker 4>the body? Yeah, in healing, Yeah, definitely, Like I wonder

674
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<v Speaker 4>if they know it's just not in the paperwork.

675
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:51.119
<v Speaker 5>Definitely point to that type of idea with the chakra

676
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 5>and chakra system in having correspondence with colors, and different

677
00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 5>colors can affect different systems for sure.

678
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:11.000
<v Speaker 4>All right, Focus fifteen, Oh shit, travel into the past.

679
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:15.159
<v Speaker 4>Who all of the preceding techniques are conducted at the

680
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 4>level of expanded awareness known as Focus twelve. However, the

681
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.039
<v Speaker 4>technique of the time travel into the past involves further

682
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 4>expansion of consciousness through the inclusion of additional levels of

683
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 4>sound on the HEMI sync tape. Some of the sound

684
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 4>is probably merely an intensification of the basic HEMI sink frequencies,

685
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 4>being designed to further modify brainwave frequency and amplitude. Other

686
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.079
<v Speaker 4>aspects of the added sound patterns appear to be designed

687
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:46.679
<v Speaker 4>to provide subtle, almost subliminal suggestions to the mind as

688
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 4>to what is desired by way of further expanding consciousness,

689
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.519
<v Speaker 4>so as to support the verbal suggestions and instructions.

690
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Also contained on the tape.

691
00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Even the instructions are highly symbolic, with time being visualized

692
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:03.920
<v Speaker 4>as a huge wheel in the universe with various spokes,

693
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 4>each of which give access to.

694
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:09.440
<v Speaker 2>A different part of the participant's past. That's cool.

695
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:13.400
<v Speaker 4>Focus fifteen is a very advanced state and is extremely

696
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:18.000
<v Speaker 4>difficult to achieve. Probably less than five percent of all

697
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:22.159
<v Speaker 4>participants in any given Gateway experience actually fully achieve the

698
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<v Speaker 4>Focus fifteen state. During the course of the approximately seven

699
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<v Speaker 4>days of training, Nonetheless, Monroe Institute trainers affirmed that with

700
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 4>enough practice, eventually Focus fifteen can be achieved. They also

701
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.000
<v Speaker 4>state that not only the individual's past history is available

702
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:42.519
<v Speaker 4>for examination by one who has achieved Focus fifteen, but

703
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.159
<v Speaker 4>other aspects of the past with which the individual himself

704
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:51.280
<v Speaker 4>has had no connection may also be accessed. That's some

705
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 4>pretty uh, some pretty well shit. I didn't even have

706
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 4>it up on the screen. Oops.

707
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:00.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what.

708
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 5>Just going beyond time and space, it's it's crazy.

709
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in places that you weren't even like associated with.

710
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:13.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean at that point, it's like time travel, but

711
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.239
<v Speaker 4>just in the past. It doesn't even matter if you're there.

712
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.639
<v Speaker 1>A huge wheel though, Why a wheel?

713
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.719
<v Speaker 4>It made me think of like the wheel of the

714
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 4>wheels that's on the harrow cook the Sometimes they have

715
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.360
<v Speaker 4>like spokes coming out. It depends on the artists obviously,

716
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:36.360
<v Speaker 4>but deck.

717
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Right, the wheel continues to turn. But it's just weird,

718
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 1>just weird wheel because I just think of time as linear.

719
00:48:52.440 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, yeah, well, it's place circular here linear, yeah,

720
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 2>not in the constraints of this reality. I guess.

721
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 5>The Aboriginal idea of time. In Australia, they talk about

722
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 5>it being a circle and a spiral, and so sometimes

723
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:21.440
<v Speaker 5>might connect to another time really closely they as they

724
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:24.320
<v Speaker 5>envision it. It's pretty interesting.

725
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:29.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean maybe it looks lineer, but all time,

726
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, it happens at once technically, so it all

727
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:39.360
<v Speaker 1>connects back to the beginning anyway, So I guess it's interesting.

728
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 5>It makes me think too, the only thing restricting our

729
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 5>consciousness is our consciousness, like if you can, if you

730
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 5>can be trained to see information of the past, and

731
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 5>it looks like the next one in the future is

732
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<v Speaker 5>just like you know, I think underlines the point where

733
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<v Speaker 5>really are only inhibited by ourselves more than anything.

734
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<v Speaker 2>Yo.

735
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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe they're even saying that within a week,

736
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:11.960
<v Speaker 4>five percent of the people who try this in that

737
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.039
<v Speaker 4>situation even get that fall. Like I figured it was

738
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 4>gonna be like after a six months, after a week

739
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:21.639
<v Speaker 4>like this, like I was like, fuck, I wish I

740
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:23.440
<v Speaker 4>had these tapes though, like we'll look for them again,

741
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 4>like fuck, Like damn, that's me.

742
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they must do programs all the time. It

743
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:33.920
<v Speaker 5>sounds like because it's a five or six day thing. Now,

744
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:35.960
<v Speaker 5>maybe it's a seven day thing too, I don't know,

745
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 5>but they're still they're still doing this, Like you could

746
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:43.440
<v Speaker 5>go and immerse yourself. It's probably pricey, but.

747
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I bet it's on Spotify.

748
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<v Speaker 2>You know what. I think it is. Actually sure, I

749
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:50.920
<v Speaker 2>think you're right.

750
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<v Speaker 4>Actually yeah, you know what the problem is, though, I

751
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:57.119
<v Speaker 4>have noticed differences and variations, and I have seen people

752
00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 4>say that there is bullshit ones out there, which is like,

753
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.519
<v Speaker 4>holy shit, I cannot believe somebody spent the time to

754
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.800
<v Speaker 4>make like wrong ones right.

755
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 5>And what are they what are they trying to tap

756
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:12.039
<v Speaker 5>into and say in the unconscious message subconscious message?

757
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess that's good to know, like be careful.

758
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I yeah, some people are.

759
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.760
<v Speaker 4>I've known some people who were wary about trying it

760
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.599
<v Speaker 4>and having because they're afraid that they're not going to

761
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.679
<v Speaker 4>get the authentic one and they're not about to pay

762
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:27.519
<v Speaker 4>for it because I think it's like fucking hundreds.

763
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Of dollars or some shit. Yeah, it's not something cheap

764
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:37.960
<v Speaker 2>to do. Uh, alright, I guess right.

765
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<v Speaker 5>H yeah, luckily I get the short one.

766
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

767
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:49.199
<v Speaker 5>Focus Focus twenty one the Future, the last and the

768
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:53.280
<v Speaker 5>most advanced of all the Focused states associated with the

769
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:59.239
<v Speaker 5>Gateway Training program, involves movement outside of the boundaries of

770
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 5>time space as in Focus fifteen, but with attention to

771
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:10.480
<v Speaker 5>discovering the future rather than the past. The individual who

772
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:14.800
<v Speaker 5>has achieved this state has reached a truly advanced level.

773
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:23.000
<v Speaker 5>Except in unusual circumstances, it is probably not attainable except

774
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 5>by those who have conditioned themselves through long application of meditation,

775
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.039
<v Speaker 5>or by those who have practiced long and hard through

776
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 5>the use of the HEMI sync tapes for a period

777
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.800
<v Speaker 5>of months, if not years. Well, that's interesting that the

778
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:45.119
<v Speaker 5>past is more secure. I guess the end can be

779
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:52.000
<v Speaker 5>seen easier somehow, right, I think.

780
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Also when it comes to the future, depending on how

781
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.840
<v Speaker 3>far you go, it's a sit in weight situation.

782
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 6>Because you don't know, you know, whether they're accurate or

783
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.199
<v Speaker 6>not till it occurs, right.

784
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you would imagine that the future is not, uh,

785
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:15.760
<v Speaker 1>not really.

786
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Set, like yeah, right.

787
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:20.159
<v Speaker 4>If you can go on the past, yeah right, if

788
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:22.039
<v Speaker 4>you can affect the past, how could the future ever

789
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:24.800
<v Speaker 4>be set? If there's people who are affecting the past

790
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.639
<v Speaker 4>and changing the future. That's why that's where we got

791
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 4>Mandela effects.

792
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what I heard people know, dude, have you ever

793
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 2>seen those things? I heard of that stuff.

794
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:42.320
<v Speaker 4>Those Mandela, like where things are like missing, like the

795
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:45.360
<v Speaker 4>way Berenstein Bears was spelled, or like the cornucopia with.

796
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Berenstein Bears is the one that mean because I had

797
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:54.480
<v Speaker 5>I remember not only it being Berenstein or Stein or whatever,

798
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.280
<v Speaker 5>but I remember even talking about it, like with my

799
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:01.880
<v Speaker 5>an and uncles are like, how do you say this?

800
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.320
<v Speaker 5>How I was this? Because the ei the I E

801
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:08.599
<v Speaker 5>however it was spelled, was a thing. It was like,

802
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:11.239
<v Speaker 5>how do I pronounce this as a kid, And now

803
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:14.039
<v Speaker 5>they're saying, no, it's always been staying s t A

804
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<v Speaker 5>I N right.

805
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:16.320
<v Speaker 7>But.

806
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<v Speaker 6>I think that makes sense. I think what got me

807
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 6>was the food of the Looms.

808
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember that.

809
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:27.199
<v Speaker 3>That that one gets me because I was like, I

810
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:31.880
<v Speaker 3>remember seeing that copa in that and then they're like, no,

811
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 3>it never was.

812
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:34.639
<v Speaker 6>I was like, I know it was there.

813
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:40.000
<v Speaker 5>I can remember having a conversation about what is what

814
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:43.880
<v Speaker 5>is this? Oh, that's a cornucopia. Cornucopia I never heard

815
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:47.000
<v Speaker 5>of that. Yeah, well that's that's what they call it. No.

816
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:51.000
<v Speaker 5>I I definitely definitely remember not only seeing it but

817
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:52.159
<v Speaker 5>talking about it.

818
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 3>But most people attribute that the Mendela effect to timelines

819
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:06.760
<v Speaker 3>crossing and different Oh I can't even remember the terminology

820
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:07.239
<v Speaker 3>right now.

821
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<v Speaker 6>I'm so sorry.

822
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Basically, basically timelines, I would say, crossing over and we're

823
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:17.280
<v Speaker 3>going through in and out of timelines and stuff like that,

824
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:24.159
<v Speaker 3>alternate universes. There we go, alternate universes. So I'm glad.

825
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:27.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, sorry, No, I'm saying I'm glad Ethan that

826
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.760
<v Speaker 3>you remembered it because everyone else I talked to like, no, it.

827
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:31.840
<v Speaker 6>Was never there. I'm like, I know it was there.

828
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:35.800
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going crazy, Oh that was.

829
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right, And Tara in the comments just said the

830
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:42.039
<v Speaker 5>same thing that she remembers talking about it, not only

831
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<v Speaker 5>seeing it, but talking about it. Right, So it's like

832
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:48.679
<v Speaker 5>these conversations wouldn't have even had it wouldn't have even occurred.

833
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<v Speaker 5>I remember getting made fun of too, Like before the Internet,

834
00:55:55.960 --> 00:56:01.960
<v Speaker 5>I had somehow came across the idea that Nelson Mandela died,

835
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:06.480
<v Speaker 5>like like way before the Internet, and like people were like, no,

836
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:08.559
<v Speaker 5>he's not dead. Look it's not that. I'm like, oh,

837
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.119
<v Speaker 5>whoa weird? Why did I think that? And then this

838
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.599
<v Speaker 5>started coming about and I'm like, oh, wow, weird, this

839
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:16.559
<v Speaker 5>that's strange.

840
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:20.119
<v Speaker 2>That is weird when you think.

841
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.599
<v Speaker 6>It's it's odd, right.

842
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Now.

843
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:30.199
<v Speaker 1>It's almost bothersome right now.

844
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like what the fuck could have it gotten

845
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.440
<v Speaker 4>changed in the past to remove the corner kopia? Like

846
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.039
<v Speaker 4>like what, like why is that the only thing that changed?

847
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Like like did you knock out the guy who got

848
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:42.559
<v Speaker 4>the original deal for the art and you sold them

849
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:44.239
<v Speaker 4>the fucking idea without the corner coopia?

850
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Like you know what I'm saying, Like what kind of

851
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:47.239
<v Speaker 2>stupid little change?

852
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:51.079
<v Speaker 5>It's it's so weird. But and you guys are in

853
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.920
<v Speaker 5>New York. What about the Ed McMahon thing.

854
00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yo, I'm sorry man, I remember that ship.

855
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:03.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yo, come on going board a door watching him

856
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:08.000
<v Speaker 5>on TV Ed McMahon brought the readers whatever it was called,

857
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:11.559
<v Speaker 5>like at the time, like that was like every other

858
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.679
<v Speaker 5>commercial series it was on.

859
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.199
<v Speaker 3>And it was a big event during the Super Bowl.

860
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I do believe it was a Super Bowl. Was when

861
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 3>he awarded that.

862
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:21.119
<v Speaker 5>I don't remember.

863
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh, man, imagine this is a super Bowl.

864
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:25.760
<v Speaker 5>But I remember it was commercials And now they're saying

865
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 5>that never happened, Like wait, what though.

866
00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:30.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that. I don't believe that.

867
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.480
<v Speaker 5>That just does my head in that one, that one,

868
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:36.480
<v Speaker 5>Like again, you remember talking about it, not only seeing it,

869
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.679
<v Speaker 5>but like joking about what cook he was.

870
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.199
<v Speaker 4>Basically, I can't imagine making that up in my own

871
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:45.400
<v Speaker 4>mind for some reason as a child, Like for what

872
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 4>reason when I even construct that around with a gigantic

873
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 4>card of the gigantic check card. That's not my imagination.

874
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:58.960
<v Speaker 3>I think enough of us that no matter how much

875
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:00.000
<v Speaker 3>they deny it, that did happen.

876
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:04.119
<v Speaker 5>Now that does my head on?

877
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:12.559
<v Speaker 2>I like, yeah, Judie, is you ready for the ready paragraph?

878
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir?

879
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:18.000
<v Speaker 6>Sorry, that nice big paragraph for me. Okay.

880
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:23.440
<v Speaker 3>The out of body movement, this remarkable phenomenon has been

881
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:28.239
<v Speaker 3>seen for discussion in detail until last because of the

882
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:35.000
<v Speaker 3>interest which it occasions and special circumstances involved in its attainment.

883
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Monroe Institute stresses that the Gateway program was not established

884
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:44.880
<v Speaker 3>solely for the purpose of enabling participants to obtain the

885
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.440
<v Speaker 3>out of body state, nor does the program guarantee that

886
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:53.039
<v Speaker 3>the participants will succeed in doing it. During the course

887
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:57.400
<v Speaker 3>of the training at the Institute, only one tape out

888
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:01.960
<v Speaker 3>of the many which make up the Gateway experience is

889
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:08.519
<v Speaker 3>devoted to the techniques involved in the out of body movement. Basically,

890
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:13.199
<v Speaker 3>these techniques were merely designed to make it easier for

891
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.920
<v Speaker 3>the individual to achieve the out of body state when

892
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:21.920
<v Speaker 3>his brainwave pattern and personal energy levels have reached a

893
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:26.960
<v Speaker 3>point that he is in apparent harmony with his surrounding

894
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:32.480
<v Speaker 3>electromagnetic environment, such that he feels that he has reached

895
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:38.679
<v Speaker 3>the threshold where separation is a possibility to facilitate achieving

896
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:42.880
<v Speaker 3>the out of body state. Bob Monroe, the founder of

897
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:47.039
<v Speaker 3>Monroe Institute, is quoted in a recent magazine article as

898
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:51.880
<v Speaker 3>saying that in order to assist the participant, the particular

899
00:59:52.360 --> 01:00:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Hemasinc tape concerned with the technique employs employees beta says

900
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:06.400
<v Speaker 3>of around twenty eight seventy seven dot three cps cycles

901
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 3>per second. Since thirty to forty cps is considered to

902
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:14.519
<v Speaker 3>be the normal range for the for beta brainwave signals

903
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:19.880
<v Speaker 3>those associated with the wakeful state, it is apparent that

904
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:23.559
<v Speaker 3>the Monroe Institute is convinced that the same heightened state

905
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:29.800
<v Speaker 3>of brainwave frequency output, which promotes alternate states of consciousness,

906
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:35.519
<v Speaker 3>is also an important consideration in assisting and achievement of

907
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:40.119
<v Speaker 3>out of body states. The actual technique employed for separating

908
01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:44.320
<v Speaker 3>from the body involved such as such simple maneuvers as

909
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:49.199
<v Speaker 3>rolling out, lifting out after the fashion of a phone poll,

910
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:55.559
<v Speaker 3>wherein the individual separates in a rigid head first manner,

911
01:00:55.880 --> 01:01:00.480
<v Speaker 3>such that he finds himself standing at attention at the.

912
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.719
<v Speaker 6>Hold on, let me get there, so I could scroll

913
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:16.639
<v Speaker 6>down oh yes, sorry, at the foot of his.

914
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Physical body and sliding out either through either end of

915
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:26.599
<v Speaker 3>his body. I find this, other than it being a disclaimer,

916
01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I find this whole part interesting and it makes me think,

917
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:33.599
<v Speaker 3>because we were talking about the Mendela effect, could you

918
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.559
<v Speaker 3>could you imagine how many people if they if you

919
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:39.320
<v Speaker 3>had like thousands, millions of people doing this at the

920
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:41.639
<v Speaker 3>same time, what it would How would it affect our

921
01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:47.840
<v Speaker 3>timeline because basically he well, the way I'm reading it,

922
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:49.639
<v Speaker 3>they could basically change.

923
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.360
<v Speaker 6>Time and events.

924
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:58.079
<v Speaker 4>I think if you're even like so fucking with this ship,

925
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:00.199
<v Speaker 4>I think you're actually in some way kind of like

926
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:02.519
<v Speaker 4>manipulating time and space anyway.

927
01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 3>So if you have millions of people messing it, we

928
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:08.960
<v Speaker 3>will have stuff like the fruit or loom situation and

929
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 3>the Ed McMahon situation happening. If people's like, I didn't

930
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:16.679
<v Speaker 3>want that to happen. Not to sound cliche, it's like,

931
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:23.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. If you're into supernatural, watch the show supernatural. Yeah,

932
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:26.880
<v Speaker 3>the angel Gabrielle went back in time and saved the

933
01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Titanic and everything else like that. If you had so

934
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:33.079
<v Speaker 3>many people, not just him, Like, if people could reach

935
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:35.679
<v Speaker 3>this ability and they start saying, ah, we could go

936
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:39.760
<v Speaker 3>back and do this, you'll have a bunch of Mendela effects.

937
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:40.960
<v Speaker 6>This is my opinion.

938
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I would do it on purpose, just to troll people.

939
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:59.119
<v Speaker 2>That's great. It up on the screen.

940
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:09.719
<v Speaker 1>H Yeah, that's we're on thirty two here, okay, roll

941
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:14.719
<v Speaker 1>of rum sleep. It is interesting to note that Bob

942
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Monroe informed the Gateway class that finished seventh May seventh,

943
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:25.360
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty three that an ex trainer of his operating

944
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:30.679
<v Speaker 1>in Charlotteville, Virginia, found that he could guarantee out of

945
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:35.000
<v Speaker 1>body movements by bringing participants down into a rapid eye

946
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:39.280
<v Speaker 1>movement REM state of sleep and then use the Hemi

947
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:43.880
<v Speaker 1>sink tape technique. This may well be a function of

948
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the fact that most, if not all people repute reputedly

949
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:53.239
<v Speaker 1>go into and out of body state during REM sleep.

950
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:57.800
<v Speaker 1>REM sleep is the deepest possible level of ordinary sleep

951
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:03.119
<v Speaker 1>and involves complete disengageage of the body's motor cortex functions

952
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:07.800
<v Speaker 1>from the neck down. And nearly complete suppression of consciousness

953
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 1>in the left brain hemisphere. The effect of this is

954
01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to put the body in a state of complete stillness

955
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:20.920
<v Speaker 1>so far as the skeletal muscle structure is concerned, thereby

956
01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:27.519
<v Speaker 1>oh eit Yes, thereby further promoting the state of deep

957
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:33.400
<v Speaker 1>rest needed to eliminate the bifurcation echo. In addition, it

958
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:36.599
<v Speaker 1>leaves the right hemisphere of the brain free to respond

959
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:41.559
<v Speaker 1>to the instructions and suggestions contained on the gateway tape. However,

960
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:45.719
<v Speaker 1>use of the hem sinc tapes at this point may

961
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 1>be less a factor in actually achieving the out of

962
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:53.760
<v Speaker 1>body state than it is a matter of focusing the

963
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:58.039
<v Speaker 1>brain enough so that a residual memory of having naturally

964
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:03.119
<v Speaker 1>achieved and out of body is carried into the waking state. Indeed,

965
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:08.400
<v Speaker 1>it may even be postulated that some dreams associated with

966
01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:11.639
<v Speaker 1>deep levels of sleep are in fact functions of the

967
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:15.800
<v Speaker 1>same kind of altered consciousness involved in interaction with the

968
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:20.079
<v Speaker 1>universe that plays a role in all of the focus twelve, fifteen,

969
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and twenty one states described above. The difference between those

970
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:29.039
<v Speaker 1>states and the condition of the mind in rem sleep

971
01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:33.119
<v Speaker 1>seems to be that the left hemisphere is almost totally

972
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:37.559
<v Speaker 1>disengaged in the latter experience, such that memory of what

973
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:41.840
<v Speaker 1>was achieved in the altered states of consciousness cannot usually

974
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:46.760
<v Speaker 1>be retrieved by conscious desire because the left hemisphere has

975
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:52.039
<v Speaker 1>no knowledge of its existence or its location in the

976
01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:56.360
<v Speaker 1>right hemisphere. Admittedly, some people can be trained to remember

977
01:05:56.360 --> 01:06:01.559
<v Speaker 1>their state dreams through intense condition in the waking state,

978
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:06.039
<v Speaker 1>but even that may be more a function of establishing

979
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:10.119
<v Speaker 1>pathways and the right hemisphere which the left hemisphere can

980
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:14.360
<v Speaker 1>access following re entry into the wakeful state than it

981
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 1>is in the indication of any specific left hemisphere conscious

982
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:23.960
<v Speaker 1>involvement in the process during rem sleep. In any event,

983
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:31.039
<v Speaker 1>the three apparent conditions required for voluntary voluntarily inducing an

984
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:34.480
<v Speaker 1>out of body state, and most of the individuals seems

985
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to be one achievement of a state of profound quiet

986
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:43.280
<v Speaker 1>in the body such that the bifurcation echo fades and

987
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:50.400
<v Speaker 1>resonance at approximately seven hurtz is established, or two synchronization

988
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:57.039
<v Speaker 1>of the two brain hemisphere wave patterns, and three subsequent

989
01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:00.559
<v Speaker 1>stimulation of the right hemisphere of the mind to attain

990
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:06.119
<v Speaker 1>a state of heightened alertness, which of course enter fears

991
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:11.199
<v Speaker 1>with brain hemisphere synchronization, but not until a sufficient level

992
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:15.760
<v Speaker 1>of enhanced frequency range has first been established to help

993
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:17.920
<v Speaker 1>achieve the out of body state.

994
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:24.960
<v Speaker 2>That was a whole lot. Yeah, yeah, I do think

995
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:25.639
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting.

996
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, the reuptor just like real quick, how they how

997
01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:31.400
<v Speaker 4>they even say that the only point of doing that

998
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:33.800
<v Speaker 4>now is so you remember the experience.

999
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:37.039
<v Speaker 2>That was really interesting, that there's.

1000
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:39.199
<v Speaker 4>Something that you've got to be giving a certain state

1001
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:40.360
<v Speaker 4>to even have the memory of it.

1002
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:46.599
<v Speaker 1>M Are they like, is that insinuating that we might

1003
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:48.360
<v Speaker 1>do it and we just don't even know?

1004
01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Is that what we're doing? We're dreaming?

1005
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:59.360
<v Speaker 5>It also makes me think of the symbolism behind well,

1006
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:02.800
<v Speaker 5>there's many different stories of people going to sleep and

1007
01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:07.760
<v Speaker 5>dreaming and having a prophetic thing, but specifically Rip van

1008
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:13.440
<v Speaker 5>Winkle he imagined himself one hundred years into the future

1009
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:17.840
<v Speaker 5>almost rather than slept one hundred years kind of thing

1010
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:22.880
<v Speaker 5>with the whole psychic element to it as a symbolic interpretation.

1011
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, all right, I'll.

1012
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:37.720
<v Speaker 4>Continue thirty three. Awesome information collection potential. The information acquisition

1013
01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:40.920
<v Speaker 4>potential associated with the out of body state seems to

1014
01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:45.199
<v Speaker 4>attract the most attention from the standpoint of developing practical

1015
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:49.920
<v Speaker 4>applications for the gateway technique. Unfortunately, although the out of

1016
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:53.119
<v Speaker 4>body state can apparently be achieved by many people without

1017
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:57.840
<v Speaker 4>excessive expenditure of time or effort, the purposes to which

1018
01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.439
<v Speaker 4>it can be put are currently limited by the fact

1019
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:04.479
<v Speaker 4>that although individuals in that state may travel anywhere on

1020
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:09.600
<v Speaker 4>an instantaneous basis, in either the terrestrial or in other spaces,

1021
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:14.479
<v Speaker 4>information distortion in the former context remains a major concern

1022
01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:18.399
<v Speaker 4>to date. According to one of the trainers at Monroe Institute,

1023
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:22.680
<v Speaker 4>numerous experiments have been conducted involving persons moving from one

1024
01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:25.239
<v Speaker 4>coast to the other in the out of body state

1025
01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:28.560
<v Speaker 4>to read a series of ten computer generated numbers in

1026
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:32.319
<v Speaker 4>a university laboratory. Although most have acquired enough of the

1027
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:36.039
<v Speaker 4>digits to make clear that their consciousness was present, none

1028
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:39.920
<v Speaker 4>have ever succeeded in getting all ten correct. This seems

1029
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:42.319
<v Speaker 4>to be a function of the fact that physical reality

1030
01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:46.920
<v Speaker 4>in the present is not the only holographic influence which

1031
01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:49.720
<v Speaker 4>the individual may encounter in an out of body state.

1032
01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:53.720
<v Speaker 4>There are also energy patterns left by people or events

1033
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:57.640
<v Speaker 4>occurring at the same physical site being viewed, but from

1034
01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:01.840
<v Speaker 4>the past rather than the present. In addition, since thoughts

1035
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:05.760
<v Speaker 4>are the product of energy, patterns and energy patterns are reality.

1036
01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:09.479
<v Speaker 4>It may also be possible that individuals encounter thought forms

1037
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.079
<v Speaker 4>while in and out of body state, which mingle with

1038
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:19.760
<v Speaker 4>physical reality and are not easily differentiated. Finally, as Melissa

1039
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:22.720
<v Speaker 4>Jagger writes, there is another potential problem area in the

1040
01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:30.399
<v Speaker 4>sense that holograms can be viewed pseudoscopically that's correct, that

1041
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:34.239
<v Speaker 4>is to say, inside out or backwards, just as well

1042
01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:37.520
<v Speaker 4>as they can be seen in proper perspective. Some of

1043
01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:40.680
<v Speaker 4>the distortions occurring may ultimately prove to be traceable to

1044
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:43.720
<v Speaker 4>this cause, because in the out of body state, an

1045
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:49.079
<v Speaker 4>individual may preserve perceive the holographic energy patterns given off

1046
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:53.359
<v Speaker 4>by people or things interacting in time space reality in

1047
01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:59.039
<v Speaker 4>a somewhat distorted form.

1048
01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:03.960
<v Speaker 1>You like it how he said, uh, terrestrial or in

1049
01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:07.760
<v Speaker 1>other spheres like no, they're not gonna give that to

1050
01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:14.760
<v Speaker 1>us at all. But also just like, uh, it kind

1051
01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:17.520
<v Speaker 1>of really paints a picture of like what that looks

1052
01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 1>like hand like uh, actually being out of body and

1053
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:31.520
<v Speaker 1>like almost like all of time happening at once, and

1054
01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:34.960
<v Speaker 1>like you know, you could run into thought forms like

1055
01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:39.840
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of it sounds like confusing to navigate a bit.

1056
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:44.039
<v Speaker 4>I think as wild that they're even just saying that,

1057
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:45.600
<v Speaker 4>like you may not know the difference between like a

1058
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:47.520
<v Speaker 4>thought form and I guess, like an entity, I guess

1059
01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:53.640
<v Speaker 4>in a sense like that's well, or you could sense

1060
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:56.640
<v Speaker 4>like you don't know, I guess, so could that be

1061
01:11:56.640 --> 01:11:57.319
<v Speaker 4>like an eggregor?

1062
01:11:57.359 --> 01:11:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Almost? Maybe?

1063
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:05.560
<v Speaker 5>All right, And just the removal of the limitations of

1064
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:13.840
<v Speaker 5>time space is just fascinating all throughout this all right, Okay,

1065
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:26.800
<v Speaker 5>should we go thirty four? Okay? Oops, sorry, Belief system considerations.

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<v Speaker 5>In nineteen sixty seven, Alexandra David Neil and Lama Youngden

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<v Speaker 5>wrote a book entitled Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects,

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<v Speaker 5>in which the following quote is taken. The tangible world

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<v Speaker 5>is movement, say the masters. Not a collection of moving objects,

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<v Speaker 5>but movement itself. There are no objects in movement. It

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<v Speaker 5>is the movement which constitutes the objects which appear to us.

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<v Speaker 5>They are nothing but movement. This movement is a continued

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<v Speaker 5>and infinitely rapid succession of flashes of energy. In Tibetan

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<v Speaker 5>saul or sugar, all objects perceptible to our senses, all

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<v Speaker 5>phenomena of whatever kind and whatever aspect they may assume

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<v Speaker 5>are constituted by a rapid succession of instantaneous events. Arros.

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<v Speaker 5>You kind of touched on that how time is all

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<v Speaker 5>at once. That reminds me sentence. The classic description of

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<v Speaker 5>the universal hologram is to be found in a Hindu sutra,

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<v Speaker 5>which says, in the heaven of Indra, there is said

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<v Speaker 5>to be a network of pearls so arranged that if

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<v Speaker 5>you look at one, you see all the others reflected in.

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<v Speaker 1>It ideal forms.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's beautiful. I have cited this quotation because it

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<v Speaker 5>shows that the concept of the universe, which at least

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<v Speaker 5>some physicists are now coming to accept, is identical in

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<v Speaker 5>its essential aspects with one known to the learned delete

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<v Speaker 5>in selected civilizations and cultures of high attainment in the

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<v Speaker 5>ancient world. The concept of the cosmic egg, for example,

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<v Speaker 5>is well known to scholars familiar with the ancient writings

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<v Speaker 5>of the Eastern religions. Nor are the theories presented in

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<v Speaker 5>this paper at variance with the essential tenets of the

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<v Speaker 5>Judeo Christian stream of thought. The concept of visible reality,

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<v Speaker 5>i e. The created world as being an emanation uh

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<v Speaker 5>of the omnipotent and omni omniscient divinity who is completely

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<v Speaker 5>unknowable in his primary state of being. The Absolute at

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<v Speaker 5>rest in infinity is a concept straight out of Hebrew

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<v Speaker 5>mystical philosophy. Even the Christian concept of the Trinity shines

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<v Speaker 5>through the description of the Absolute as presented in this paper.

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<v Speaker 5>The description of energy totally at rest in infinity fits

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<v Speaker 5>the Christian metaphysical concept of the Father, while the infinite

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<v Speaker 5>self consciousness resident in that energy proved the motive force

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<v Speaker 5>of will to bring a portion of that energy into

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<v Speaker 5>motion to create reality, corresponds with the Sun. This is

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<v Speaker 5>because in order to attain self consciousness, the consciousness of

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<v Speaker 5>the absolute must project a hologram of itself and then

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<v Speaker 5>perceive it. The hologram is a mirror image of the

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<v Speaker 5>absolute in infinity, still exists outside time and space, but

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<v Speaker 5>is one step removed from the absolute, and is the

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<v Speaker 5>actual agent of all creation, all reality, and the eternal

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<v Speaker 5>thought or concept of self, which results from this self

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<v Speaker 5>consciousness serves. Okay, okay, So here's the end of page

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four, and the next page is the page twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>I got you, I got the other page maybe sent

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<v Speaker 2>to me, gonna pull it up.

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<v Speaker 5>And we got and we got the missing page here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's crazy that it was gone, but it's great

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys have found it.

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<v Speaker 5>It was gone for many years after the initial release

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<v Speaker 5>of the main document, and there was a big uproar,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think finally it was the Monroe Institute, not

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<v Speaker 5>the CIA, that quote unquote found it.

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<v Speaker 1>So ope it was there. Then it's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it. I was doing it this way so

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<v Speaker 2>I could up blow it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gotcha. But the absolute, I mean, do we give

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<v Speaker 1>do we give Abrahamic religion that credit? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>because the platini.

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<v Speaker 2>Is yeah, right right, No.

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<v Speaker 4>Even when he said that, the first thing, well for me,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I didn't think kind of like Kether, but

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<v Speaker 4>absolute like that really doesn't make me think of like

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<v Speaker 4>platitis or yeah, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and it made me think how connected these philosophies

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<v Speaker 5>were along the Silk Road, so to speak. Right, that

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<v Speaker 5>Buddhism intertwined with Judeo Christianity.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, Gnosticism and so forth and back and

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<v Speaker 7>forth the other way too, probably in ways that we

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<v Speaker 7>are more remarkable than we're able to determine, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolute or the universal truths.

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<v Speaker 2>Right even before when I was talking about like being

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the first I guess, like separation from like whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>the Absolute, and kind of like I guess having an

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<v Speaker 2>idea of self. To me, I thought it was very much.

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<v Speaker 4>Chokola thought it was pretty much explaining that from the

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<v Speaker 4>cabalistic trade. I mean, even the experience is coming face

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<v Speaker 4>to face with God. So I mean I could even

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<v Speaker 4>see like, you know, like looking at one self.

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<v Speaker 2>To the extent.

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<v Speaker 5>So oh, we're gonna know. Sorry, We're gonna oh.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, I wasn't sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'll start from the last sentence on the on

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<v Speaker 5>page twenty four. And the eternal thought or concept of self,

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<v Speaker 5>which results from this self consciousness, serves the Absolute as

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<v Speaker 5>the model around which the evolution of time space results

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<v Speaker 5>revolves to ultimately attain a reflection of and union with Him.

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<v Speaker 5>That thought model, which perfectly reflects the essence or spirit

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<v Speaker 5>of the Absolute, fits the Christian metaphysical description of the

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<v Speaker 5>Holy Spirit. Finally, our description of the universal Hologram. The

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<v Speaker 5>trus of creation and evolution is neither new nor original.

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<v Speaker 5>Its use as the figure of the universe of creation

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<v Speaker 5>developing in evolution is found in various stylized representations in

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<v Speaker 5>virtually every religious system of antiquity, whether of Eastern or

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<v Speaker 5>Western deriviation derivation, whether its stylized labyrinth once popular in

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<v Speaker 5>the Hellenic world, the spiralized version of the Hebrew Tree

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<v Speaker 5>of Life or its Hindu counterpart, or the Chinese spiral

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<v Speaker 5>through the fourfold power, the ultimate meaning is the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Mystics the world over, it seems, have perceived the universal

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<v Speaker 5>Hologram in the same spiral form and have incorporated that

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<v Speaker 5>intuitive knowledge in their religious writings from antiquity to the present.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, if there was gonna be a page that

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<v Speaker 5>goes missing, right, that's just as like the bomb right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I do find it's funny how like

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<v Speaker 2>they do. They do kind of in a few ways.

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<v Speaker 4>They've kind of attributed other ideas to like Christianity, Like again,

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<v Speaker 4>things that we were even saying that sound a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit like maybe like neo Platonic they're suggesting as also Christianity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean technically you get it from Plati.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm actually working on stuff for that what to

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<v Speaker 4>do with show on showing how Christianity. I would you

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<v Speaker 4>would like to even maybe get other people from show

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<v Speaker 4>to do it too. I do want to try to

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<v Speaker 4>show the I guess like platonism, neoplatonism, and maybe other

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<v Speaker 4>kind of occult ideas that are actually accepted into Christianity.

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<v Speaker 2>There's fun some of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Gnosis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's not so much like oh, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>point the finger.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like, I don't know, like you realize you

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01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:47.039
<v Speaker 4>guys really aren't much different than us, Like maybe we

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<v Speaker 4>should chill the fuck out they stop saying dumb ship

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<v Speaker 4>Like I don't know, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, well, it's almost two if you get real symbolic

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<v Speaker 5>with it. The whole New Testament is a sacrifice, right

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<v Speaker 5>of what the ancients were supposedly doing. Literally, it's God

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<v Speaker 5>sending his kid to be sacrificed. It's like wait, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what is that called an o law or an

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<v Speaker 1>olah offering?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, various, I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but I

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01:23:24.359 --> 01:23:28.000
<v Speaker 5>know they're all doing various forms of it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny how you get a lot of those those

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<v Speaker 4>podcasts that always like, oh, that was a sacrifice. That

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01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:35.359
<v Speaker 4>was a sacrifice his motherfucking sacrifice of their own kid.

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<v Speaker 4>His motherfucking sacrifice their own kid to becoming famous.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what the fuck could happened with you? If he

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01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:44.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't get sacrificed, you wouldn't be famous either. What the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck man.

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<v Speaker 1>The sacrificial stuff? Sorry, Ethan, no, no, please please. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, it's kind of interesting because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you don't like for I don't know, at

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<v Speaker 1>least some like uh Plato and like the Neoplatonists specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>like I know, Porphyry had a whole like chunk of

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<v Speaker 1>a book kind of criticizing uh sacrificial practices, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they they absolutely didn't think that it was necessary. Sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like interesting. It's like, uh, I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>common really was this practice outside of like the Canaanites

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<v Speaker 1>and this uh, these Abrahamic religions, and like the the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of it, right is like for forgiving your sins?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's very like I guess uh Anti no

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<v Speaker 1>no mean and like uh Anti order in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's it's just a fascinating thing that

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it could be kind of secluded to just

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<v Speaker 1>Abrahamic religions, and it's like, you know, what is the purpose?

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard you know some people say, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it could be a I don't know, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Well on one thing. I mean, they're worried. There could

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<v Speaker 5>have been a lot of different things going on with

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<v Speaker 5>the realism or symbolism, but one thing for sure is

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<v Speaker 5>the infant or young person mortality rate even up until

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<v Speaker 5>like the late eighteen hundreds later than that was so

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<v Speaker 5>much higher. So maybe it's almost like a psychological trick,

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<v Speaker 5>like yeah, you kids were dying left and right. It

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<v Speaker 5>was really difficult to get a kid past youth, and

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<v Speaker 5>so they would have that idea even though they didn't

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<v Speaker 5>even actually, you know, do it themselves, but it was

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<v Speaker 5>the idea was, you know, the symbolism might have been

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<v Speaker 5>behind the you know, high mortality anyway of a way

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<v Speaker 5>as a way of coping.

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<v Speaker 1>All I know is Jesus died so I can do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I want. No, I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, yeah, all right. Uh, next is where we were so.

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<v Speaker 5>It brings were right on the the second or whatever

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<v Speaker 5>the part of page twenty five there. It's beautiful that

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<v Speaker 5>he brings it all together, right. The essence of all

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<v Speaker 5>these religious teachings were were similar in the spiral or

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<v Speaker 5>in their descriptions. It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Who reads next. I forgot what we I forgot? I forgot?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry it looks like a big one, so deep breath

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<v Speaker 3>left brain limitations. Twelfth century physics would seem to be

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<v Speaker 3>be visiting insights belonging to mankind as far back as

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<v Speaker 3>written records can take us. The only difference is the

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<v Speaker 3>twentieth century physics is used as using a left brain

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<v Speaker 3>linear quantitative style of reasoning to approach the same knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>which the mystics of Old apparently acquired. Old apparently acquired

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<v Speaker 3>in a holistic, intuitional right brain style. As a tool

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<v Speaker 3>in the hands of our left brain culture, gateway would

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<v Speaker 3>seem to be a promising method for achieving the intuitive,

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<v Speaker 3>holistic type of interface with the universal hologram. Hologram needed

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<v Speaker 3>to provide the context that thinkers like Einstein have sought

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<v Speaker 3>in their labors to discover a unified field theory in physics.

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<v Speaker 3>For persons in our profession whose concerns revolve around strategic issues,

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<v Speaker 3>tactical questions, and matters of managerial form and system access

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<v Speaker 3>to a new world of intuitive perception and self reflection

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<v Speaker 3>which seem to offer, in a long term, the means

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<v Speaker 3>by which to know in a truly objective way. This

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<v Speaker 3>is so because the self imposed limitations to balance perception

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<v Speaker 3>and objective logic, which are cultural and personal psychological subjectivity

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<v Speaker 3>imposes when we use the strictly left brain thinkings. Style

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<v Speaker 3>could be offset by the holistic form of perception perception

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<v Speaker 3>associated with alternate states of consciousness to the extent that

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<v Speaker 3>we come to perceive ourselves fully in the context of

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<v Speaker 3>the portion of the universe universal hologram, which is the

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01:29:21.399 --> 01:29:26.600
<v Speaker 3>reflection of ourselves. To that extent, we release ourselves from

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<v Speaker 3>the from the prison of I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I can't see subjectivity.

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<v Speaker 6>I get okay, yeah, subjectivity, there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, Sorry, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Question the alternative. I think the alternative perception. I understand

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<v Speaker 3>this is talking about you know, actual projector remote viewing,

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01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:58.600
<v Speaker 3>but is he considering other substances that could be used

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01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:04.640
<v Speaker 3>to reach that, because this is similar to sometimes when

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01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I hear people talk about using something like d M

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01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:10.399
<v Speaker 3>T or something or in awasha, it sounds like it's

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01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:11.600
<v Speaker 3>similar to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I definitely think so, especially he would say holistic.

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01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Hic.

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<v Speaker 5>There's stories about I'm forgetting his name right now, but

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01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:38.560
<v Speaker 5>he is kind of a famous hippie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to help you think.

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<v Speaker 5>Of his name, and he travels back to India to

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01:30:46.680 --> 01:30:52.560
<v Speaker 5>meet several gurus there and he brings a bunch of

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<v Speaker 5>L S D right, and I know maybe yeah, I

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01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:05.520
<v Speaker 5>think so, yeah, right yeah. The author and lecture I

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01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:08.680
<v Speaker 5>think it was Timothy Learry. Sorry I'm so bad with names,

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<v Speaker 5>but he related and other people have related this story

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01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:16.399
<v Speaker 5>in that time period too, But he relates this story.

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01:31:16.439 --> 01:31:19.039
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it's true that he goes there

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<v Speaker 5>and he's, you know, getting high off a kite and

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01:31:22.359 --> 01:31:25.279
<v Speaker 5>high as a kite and hanging out with all these

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01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:29.000
<v Speaker 5>really deep thinkers and so on, and he brings this

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01:31:29.600 --> 01:31:34.039
<v Speaker 5>drug box and he at one point he meets this

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01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:37.199
<v Speaker 5>guru like and the guy's like, what's in the box.

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01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:41.439
<v Speaker 5>He's like, I want some. He's like, I don't know,

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01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:43.479
<v Speaker 5>there's nothing in there. You don't want it, No, I'm not.

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01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:47.239
<v Speaker 5>Watch let's let's talk to them together. You're you're so

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01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:53.079
<v Speaker 5>obsessed with And he takes like the hugest dose of LSK,

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01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:56.319
<v Speaker 5>like something that would take out an elephant, and he

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01:31:56.439 --> 01:32:03.920
<v Speaker 5>describes it and and has no effect. And so it

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01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:07.760
<v Speaker 5>just reminds me of all these meditation all through states

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01:32:07.800 --> 01:32:12.479
<v Speaker 5>that Judith just right about that it has this you know,

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01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:20.279
<v Speaker 5>psychedelic or drug induced aspect, but also just reminds me

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01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:24.560
<v Speaker 5>of how meditation states might be as as close or

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01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:28.920
<v Speaker 5>holding holding on to your energy in a different way,

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01:32:29.359 --> 01:32:32.479
<v Speaker 5>you know, like these gurus like you're just you're already there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Terence McKenna too. It's another person that makes me

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01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>think of And there's so many people that push this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of like psychedelics as you know, quite a helpful aid.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never I would, but I just feel like

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01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:59.399
<v Speaker 1>people dismiss it. But I don't know. I mean, listen

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01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to Terrence McKenna listened to these people and then say

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<v Speaker 1>that Adam.

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01:33:08.479 --> 01:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I do think like.

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01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Ether was saying, from even experiences I had, I do

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01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:15.880
<v Speaker 4>think you get you can get pretty close to the

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01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:18.800
<v Speaker 4>shit I think naturally through meditation.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe it or not, as.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's me yes self knowledge. It was axiomatic

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01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to the mystic philosophers of old that the first step

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01:33:36.680 --> 01:33:42.039
<v Speaker 1>in personal maturity could be expressed in the aphorism know thyself.

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<v Speaker 1>To them, the education of a man undertook as its

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01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>primary step achievement of an introverted focus, so that he

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01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>learned what was within himself before attempting to approach the

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01:33:54.600 --> 01:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>outside world. They rightly assumed that he could not effectively

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01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>evaluate and co with the world until he fully understood

1336
01:34:02.840 --> 01:34:08.039
<v Speaker 1>his personal psychological balance. The insights being provided by twentieth

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01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>century psychology in this context through the use of various

1338
01:34:12.079 --> 01:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>kinds of personality testing, seem to be a revalidation of

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01:34:16.640 --> 01:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>this ancient intuition. But no personality tests or a series

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01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:24.399
<v Speaker 1>of tests will ever replace the depth and fullness of

1341
01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:28.359
<v Speaker 1>the perception of self, which can be achieved when the

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01:34:28.479 --> 01:34:33.159
<v Speaker 1>mind alters its state of consciousness sufficiently to perceive the

1343
01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:37.720
<v Speaker 1>very hologram of itself which it has projected into the

1344
01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:42.479
<v Speaker 1>universe in its proper context as part of the universal hologram,

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01:34:42.520 --> 01:34:48.159
<v Speaker 1>in a totally holistic and intuitional way. This would seem

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01:34:48.199 --> 01:34:51.720
<v Speaker 1>to be one of the real promises of the Gateway

1347
01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:55.720
<v Speaker 1>experience from the standpoint of its ability to provide a

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01:34:55.760 --> 01:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>portal through which, based on months, if not years, of practice,

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01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:03.079
<v Speaker 1>then individual may pass in his search to find self,

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01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>personal effectuality, and the truth. In the larger sense. That

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01:35:08.119 --> 01:35:11.760
<v Speaker 1>is crazy. I want to see myself mirrored back to me.

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01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>That would save me so much time.

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01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:29.880
<v Speaker 8>Hinting, that is so much very weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>You think this should work? You think they should you think, uh,

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01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:37.239
<v Speaker 4>like people get to this point. I guess all right

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01:35:37.239 --> 01:35:40.399
<v Speaker 4>if the guys including it or is uh sorry?

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01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:43.279
<v Speaker 3>But if you think about it, that's the whole goal,

1358
01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:48.600
<v Speaker 3>isn't it that that that's the ultimate goal is to

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01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:54.199
<v Speaker 3>be self aware, to know thyself into to progress in

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01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:59.680
<v Speaker 3>that manner. That's why most people meditate, they go on

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01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:03.720
<v Speaker 3>the because this is like a dedicated even.

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01:36:03.399 --> 01:36:06.039
<v Speaker 6>If you do it spiritually, even if you follow.

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01:36:07.239 --> 01:36:13.560
<v Speaker 3>This documentation, the ultimate goal is to know yourself, is

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01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:18.319
<v Speaker 3>to unite with your HDA.

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01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>You think it should almost be like knowing your will.

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01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:25.760
<v Speaker 6>If you know yourself.

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<v Speaker 9>I was going to say something like that that meditation

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01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:34.720
<v Speaker 9>it often is about, or at least part of it,

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01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:38.399
<v Speaker 9>shedding all the BS constructs.

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<v Speaker 5>That are not our true will or true self, right,

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01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:46.119
<v Speaker 5>so we can a more better approach our our what

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01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:49.399
<v Speaker 5>should be our true calling type of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, what I find fascinating is this is twenty nine pages, right,

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01:36:56.720 --> 01:37:02.039
<v Speaker 3>so this is a whole whole. I don't want to

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01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:05.560
<v Speaker 3>say convoluted, but I can't find a better word for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Of getting to this point. But if you find a

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01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:15.760
<v Speaker 3>five year old who was their imagination hasn't been restricted,

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01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:19.039
<v Speaker 3>this is they could do this like that. It's not

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01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:22.479
<v Speaker 3>even a second thought. It's something that comes natural to them.

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<v Speaker 3>So what you said, Ethan about stripping is stripping the

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01:37:26.399 --> 01:37:29.920
<v Speaker 3>stuff that comes on to us as we get older as.

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01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:33.000
<v Speaker 6>Adults, because people who achieve that.

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01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>And I do believe people can achieve that, and we

1384
01:37:36.720 --> 01:37:38.880
<v Speaker 3>may or may not know that when we meet them.

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01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:42.800
<v Speaker 3>The first description that most people have for them is

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01:37:43.720 --> 01:37:48.000
<v Speaker 3>they have a childlike nature. It's easy for them to

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01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:52.399
<v Speaker 3>achieve this what he said people most of the participants

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01:37:52.399 --> 01:37:55.399
<v Speaker 3>couldn't achieve in a week. A kid could probably achieve

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01:37:56.039 --> 01:37:59.920
<v Speaker 3>in an hour if they sit still.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me think too of like Platinis, he's always

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01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:11.479
<v Speaker 1>talking about stripping what's alien to you. It's like, you

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01:38:11.720 --> 01:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>know what's true to you and you see it, you know,

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01:38:14.399 --> 01:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you just have to see it.

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01:38:15.920 --> 01:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, Yo, did they actually use that word

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01:38:20.039 --> 01:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>too write alien?

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01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? They do they yep. Alien. He says it so

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01:38:25.279 --> 01:38:25.880
<v Speaker 1>so many.

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01:38:25.720 --> 01:38:29.079
<v Speaker 4>Times, and it's just like, yo, I don't know, it's

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01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:30.880
<v Speaker 4>weird seeing it being used back then.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, that's true, all right, I.

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01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:43.359
<v Speaker 4>Think it's yes, here we go. Then after that we

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01:38:43.399 --> 01:38:49.319
<v Speaker 4>got the conclusion, don't motivational aspect It is a step

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01:38:49.359 --> 01:38:54.600
<v Speaker 4>by step procedure which involves repetitive practice of the techniques concerned,

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01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:57.800
<v Speaker 4>using each new insight as he means of penetrating Father

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01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:02.000
<v Speaker 4>during the next practice session. But the rate of progress

1406
01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:04.520
<v Speaker 4>is so much faster with the Gateway approach that it

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01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:09.880
<v Speaker 4>is with transcendental meditation or other forms of mental self discipline,

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01:39:09.960 --> 01:39:14.000
<v Speaker 4>and its horizons seemed to be so much wider that

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01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:16.520
<v Speaker 4>the discipline needed to practice it would seem to be

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01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:21.119
<v Speaker 4>within the means of even the impatient, result orientated, skeptical

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01:39:21.199 --> 01:39:26.039
<v Speaker 4>pragmaticists of our society. That's like I had said too,

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01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:28.800
<v Speaker 4>there were certain I feel like visuals or even physical

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01:39:28.840 --> 01:39:32.399
<v Speaker 4>feelings that came on a lot quicker during a meditation

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01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:38.439
<v Speaker 4>using these tapes. Unlike yoga and other forms of Eastern

1415
01:39:38.479 --> 01:39:42.439
<v Speaker 4>mental discipline, Gateway does not require the infinite patience and

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01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:46.479
<v Speaker 4>total personal subservance to end faith in a system of

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01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:52.479
<v Speaker 4>discipline designed to absorb all the individual's energies over most

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01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:55.560
<v Speaker 4>of a lifetime. Rather, it will begin to produce at

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01:39:55.640 --> 01:39:59.039
<v Speaker 4>least minimal results within a relatively short time, such that

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01:39:59.199 --> 01:40:03.439
<v Speaker 4>enough feedback is available to motivate and energize the individual

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01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:04.760
<v Speaker 4>to continue working with it.

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01:40:05.399 --> 01:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>That sup pause.

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed, the speed with which an individual may expect to

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01:40:10.600 --> 01:40:13.640
<v Speaker 4>progress seems less a function of the number of hours

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01:40:13.680 --> 01:40:17.000
<v Speaker 4>spent practicing than it is a question of the speed

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01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:19.520
<v Speaker 4>with which he or she is able to use the

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01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:24.920
<v Speaker 4>insights gained to release anxieties and stresses within both.

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01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:25.880
<v Speaker 2>The mind and body.

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01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:30.960
<v Speaker 4>I think it's interesting that this says that, right, these

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01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:34.159
<v Speaker 4>points of energy blockages seem to provide the principal barriers

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01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:37.520
<v Speaker 4>to achieving the enhanced energy states and focus of mind

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01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:41.399
<v Speaker 4>needed for rapid progression. The more compulsive, the more uptight

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01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:44.479
<v Speaker 4>the individual may be at the outset, the more barriers

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01:40:44.479 --> 01:40:47.920
<v Speaker 4>he or she will initially encounter to achieving a deep

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01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:52.000
<v Speaker 4>or immediate experience. But as the insights begin to come

1436
01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:55.680
<v Speaker 4>and the blockages begin to dissolve, the way ahead becomes

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01:40:55.720 --> 01:40:58.560
<v Speaker 4>increasingly clear, and the value of gateway moves from the

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01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:04.079
<v Speaker 4>status of of intellectual assessment to one of personal experience.

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01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Deep stuff. Right there.

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01:41:09.039 --> 01:41:13.640
<v Speaker 3>This actually supports what Ethan just said about the stripping away.

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01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:21.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right, the release of mind body tension or where

1442
01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:23.479
<v Speaker 5>it was. But yeah, no.

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01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was actually very interesting how I.

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01:41:25.239 --> 01:41:28.319
<v Speaker 4>Did say, like, like sometimes I really do think like

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01:41:28.359 --> 01:41:31.239
<v Speaker 4>that's all it is, is that that that stupid bullshit

1446
01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:34.439
<v Speaker 4>that like is stuck at your head, like clearing that out,

1447
01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:36.520
<v Speaker 4>or really, do you think is a huge difference with

1448
01:41:36.600 --> 01:41:38.640
<v Speaker 4>having a magical experience.

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01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:46.319
<v Speaker 5>I had a point of skepticism there, just because it said, oh,

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01:41:46.359 --> 01:41:49.399
<v Speaker 5>it takes so long with yoga and Eastern arts, and

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01:41:49.640 --> 01:41:54.039
<v Speaker 5>we do it so immediately and quickly. I'm like, well,

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01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:56.159
<v Speaker 5>it's I don't know, you could kind of do all

1453
01:41:56.199 --> 01:42:00.600
<v Speaker 5>this at home too, right, And you know what, there's

1454
01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:05.119
<v Speaker 5>there's the I mean, it's an Eastern expression, but there's

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01:42:05.159 --> 01:42:10.600
<v Speaker 5>the idea, the quote you should meditate twenty minutes a day.

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01:42:10.680 --> 01:42:13.520
<v Speaker 5>If you do not have time to meditate twenty minutes,

1457
01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:18.920
<v Speaker 5>you should meditate one hour. And it's your If your

1458
01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:23.399
<v Speaker 5>mind is so busy, right that you can't keep track

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01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:26.239
<v Speaker 5>of things enough to meditate twenty minutes, then you need

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01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:30.119
<v Speaker 5>an hour of it. But I just I'm just I

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01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:32.960
<v Speaker 5>just mean. My point of skepticism is that I think

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01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:37.319
<v Speaker 5>a lot of these things are actually accessible in other practices,

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01:42:37.399 --> 01:42:48.439
<v Speaker 5>not necessarily as faster as systematic ethan.

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01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:54.479
<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, right, if you don't want I can help

1465
01:42:54.479 --> 01:42:55.319
<v Speaker 4>you finish it or whatever.

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01:42:56.319 --> 01:42:57.680
<v Speaker 5>Oh wow, yeah, we got it.

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01:42:57.720 --> 01:42:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Because this is like this has got I'll think of

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01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:00.760
<v Speaker 2>page and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, well we'll all mix it up. I'll read

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01:43:05.279 --> 01:43:08.800
<v Speaker 5>a bit here. Conclusion, there is sound. There is a

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01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:15.199
<v Speaker 5>sound and rational basis in terms of physical science. Parameters

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01:43:15.239 --> 01:43:20.119
<v Speaker 5>for considering gateway to be plausible in terms of its

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01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:27.119
<v Speaker 5>essential objectives, Intuitional insights of not only personal but of

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01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:31.920
<v Speaker 5>the of a practical and professional nature would seem to

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01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:38.800
<v Speaker 5>be within bounds of reasonable expectations. However, a phased approach

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01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:44.560
<v Speaker 5>for entering the Gateway experience in an accelerated mode would

1477
01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:48.279
<v Speaker 5>seem to be required if the time needed to reach

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01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:53.720
<v Speaker 5>the advanced states of altered consciousness is to be brought

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01:43:54.039 --> 01:44:01.560
<v Speaker 5>within more manageable limits. From the standpoint of establishing organizationwide

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<v Speaker 5>exploitation of Gateways potential, the most promising approach suggested in

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01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:16.000
<v Speaker 5>the foregoing study involves the following steps. A begin by

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01:44:16.159 --> 01:44:22.279
<v Speaker 5>using the Gateway hem Hemisinc. Tapes to achieve enhanced brain

1483
01:44:22.399 --> 01:44:30.720
<v Speaker 5>focus and to induce hemisphere synchronization. B. Then add strong

1484
01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:39.359
<v Speaker 5>rim sleep frequencies to induced left brain quescessence and deep

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01:44:39.600 --> 01:44:48.319
<v Speaker 5>physical relaxation. C provide hypnotic suggestion designed to enable an

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01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:53.840
<v Speaker 5>individual to induce deep auto hypnotic state at will you

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01:44:53.880 --> 01:44:55.920
<v Speaker 5>want to someone else want to continue the d.

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01:44:58.720 --> 01:45:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll go. Use auto hypnotic suggestion to attain much enhanced

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01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:07.720
<v Speaker 2>focus of concentration and motivation and rapidly progressing through focuses

1490
01:45:08.279 --> 01:45:13.279
<v Speaker 2>through focus twelve exercises. Then repeat steps.

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01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:13.319
<v Speaker 1>A and B.

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01:45:13.520 --> 01:45:17.319
<v Speaker 4>Following use of the auto hypnotic suggestion that an out

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01:45:17.359 --> 01:45:18.680
<v Speaker 4>of body movement.

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01:45:18.319 --> 01:45:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Will occur and be remembered. Repeat step E to achieve facility.

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01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:29.159
<v Speaker 4>In gaining out of body state under conscious control, and

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01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:33.720
<v Speaker 4>then alterra hypnotic suggestion to stress ability to consciously control

1497
01:45:34.159 --> 01:45:37.199
<v Speaker 4>out of body movement and maintain it even after rem

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01:45:37.319 --> 01:45:38.720
<v Speaker 4>sleep state ends.

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01:45:40.279 --> 01:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>G approach Focus fifteen.

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01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:45.359
<v Speaker 4>To twenty one objectives escape from the time space and

1501
01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:53.520
<v Speaker 4>interact with new dimensions from the out of body perspective. Oh, Judith,

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01:45:54.319 --> 01:45:56.119
<v Speaker 4>you want to go, I'll let you go. It realized

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01:45:56.159 --> 01:45:57.319
<v Speaker 4>that kind of like cut you wolf too.

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01:45:57.399 --> 01:46:01.000
<v Speaker 6>Sorry, let me do that r H.

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01:46:01.439 --> 01:46:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Use multi focused approach to solve problem of distortion in

1506
01:46:06.119 --> 01:46:11.880
<v Speaker 3>terrestrial information gathering trips. This approach involves the use of

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01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:16.119
<v Speaker 3>three individuals in the out of body state, one viewing

1508
01:46:16.159 --> 01:46:20.399
<v Speaker 3>the target object to here in space time in time

1509
01:46:20.439 --> 01:46:25.479
<v Speaker 3>space sorry, one viewing it at focus fifteen as it

1510
01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:30.720
<v Speaker 3>slips into the immediate path, and one viewing it at

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01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:35.600
<v Speaker 3>focus twenty one as it slips from the immediate future.

1512
01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Debrief all three and compare data gathered from the three

1513
01:46:41.119 --> 01:46:45.079
<v Speaker 3>points of view. If care is taken to ensure that

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01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:48.520
<v Speaker 3>the three all go out of body together in the

1515
01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:57.119
<v Speaker 3>same environment, their consciousness energy systems should resonate the sympathetic oscillation.

1516
01:46:58.399 --> 01:47:02.119
<v Speaker 3>They can tune into this same target on different planes

1517
01:47:02.920 --> 01:47:10.720
<v Speaker 3>dimensions with greater effectiveness. I encourage pursuit of full self

1518
01:47:10.800 --> 01:47:16.079
<v Speaker 3>knowledge by all individuals involved in the foregoing experiments, to

1519
01:47:16.279 --> 01:47:21.319
<v Speaker 3>enhance objectivity in out of body of observation and thinking,

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01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:29.399
<v Speaker 3>and to remove personal energy blockages likely to retard rapid progress.

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01:47:30.439 --> 01:47:31.640
<v Speaker 6>Did I say that right? Retard?

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01:47:32.079 --> 01:47:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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01:47:32.720 --> 01:47:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jay, be intellectually prepared to react to possible encounters

1524
01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:46.560
<v Speaker 3>with intelligent non corporal energies forms when time space boundaries

1525
01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:47.640
<v Speaker 3>are exceeded.

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01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:51.439
<v Speaker 6>K arranged to have.

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01:47:51.319 --> 01:47:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Groups of people in focused twelve state unite their altered

1528
01:47:56.439 --> 01:48:02.680
<v Speaker 3>consciousness to build holographic patterns around sensitive areas to repulse

1529
01:48:02.920 --> 01:48:12.840
<v Speaker 3>possible unwanted out of body presence and l encourage more

1530
01:48:13.720 --> 01:48:21.039
<v Speaker 3>encourage more advanced Gateway participant participants to build holographic patterns

1531
01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:26.439
<v Speaker 3>of successful attainment and rapid progress for advanced colleagues, and

1532
01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:31.479
<v Speaker 3>assists to assist them in progressing through the Gateway system.

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01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:36.279
<v Speaker 3>If these experiments are carried through, it is to be

1534
01:48:36.439 --> 01:48:40.640
<v Speaker 3>hoped that we will truly find a gateway to Gateway

1535
01:48:41.119 --> 01:48:44.439
<v Speaker 3>and to the realm of practical application for the whole

1536
01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:50.560
<v Speaker 3>system of techniques which comprise it.

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01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:51.840
<v Speaker 6>It sounds like a ritual to me.

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01:48:53.920 --> 01:48:54.640
<v Speaker 2>No, it does.

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01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:01.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was a lot of stuff in it that

1540
01:49:01.319 --> 01:49:03.600
<v Speaker 4>I was saying earlier that just even reminds me of

1541
01:49:03.600 --> 01:49:05.399
<v Speaker 4>stuff techniques of virtual magic.

1542
01:49:09.840 --> 01:49:12.920
<v Speaker 5>Let me pull this thing down. Has a little summary

1543
01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:16.560
<v Speaker 5>there that kind of brings it up at the end.

1544
01:49:17.920 --> 01:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they went further even in that summary

1545
01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>than everything that's described in the paper, like having like

1546
01:49:25.880 --> 01:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>a group of practitioners like kind.

1547
01:49:28.680 --> 01:49:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Of like working together.

1548
01:49:32.319 --> 01:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't know whether you would say banish or whatever, like

1549
01:49:35.359 --> 01:49:40.159
<v Speaker 1>these intelligences that might come along basically Like I don't

1550
01:49:40.199 --> 01:49:43.079
<v Speaker 1>know if I read that right. I think so, like

1551
01:49:43.159 --> 01:49:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that's not talked about in here. Some of that definitely

1552
01:49:46.960 --> 01:49:48.479
<v Speaker 1>isn't talked about in this paper.

1553
01:49:48.920 --> 01:49:50.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was even when I talked about what I'm

1554
01:49:50.760 --> 01:49:52.840
<v Speaker 4>viewing it from the future, going into the future and

1555
01:49:52.920 --> 01:49:55.079
<v Speaker 4>going into the past, and then it is now.

1556
01:49:55.319 --> 01:49:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1557
01:49:55.920 --> 01:49:59.840
<v Speaker 2>That was yeah. I was like, oh, what's that. It's

1558
01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:00.520
<v Speaker 2>that earlier.

1559
01:50:03.239 --> 01:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that are arranged to have groups of people unite

1560
01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:13.479
<v Speaker 1>their altered consciousness to build holographic patterns to repulse possible

1561
01:50:13.640 --> 01:50:16.119
<v Speaker 1>unwanted presences.

1562
01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:21.319
<v Speaker 5>Like I've always been taught whenever I was at a

1563
01:50:21.399 --> 01:50:27.439
<v Speaker 5>meditation practice with other people that the meditation energies, if

1564
01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:31.600
<v Speaker 5>you will, are much more powerful when people are together.

1565
01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:37.800
<v Speaker 5>And the one teacher particularly would always quote up a

1566
01:50:37.840 --> 01:50:43.119
<v Speaker 5>biblical work verse about when you know, I think Jesus

1567
01:50:43.119 --> 01:50:46.520
<v Speaker 5>says at one point, when two people are together, I'm

1568
01:50:46.560 --> 01:50:50.159
<v Speaker 5>there type of thing, you know, Like I forgot exactly

1569
01:50:50.199 --> 01:50:54.439
<v Speaker 5>the quote forgive me, but it's you know, it does

1570
01:50:54.479 --> 01:50:58.199
<v Speaker 5>get more powerful and sometimes things do take time, right,

1571
01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:02.640
<v Speaker 5>But like like meditation effect, I feel like it's comparable

1572
01:51:02.800 --> 01:51:08.960
<v Speaker 5>to the uh runners high like you you will get

1573
01:51:09.119 --> 01:51:14.159
<v Speaker 5>effects it takes a minute. I feel like this this

1574
01:51:14.319 --> 01:51:16.399
<v Speaker 5>my skepticism of the whole thing. It's like, oh, you're

1575
01:51:16.439 --> 01:51:21.359
<v Speaker 5>just kind of like selling like a quick, quick way

1576
01:51:21.359 --> 01:51:25.359
<v Speaker 5>to do it type of thing. It does take time,

1577
01:51:25.600 --> 01:51:27.520
<v Speaker 5>even if it may be twenty minutes to get the

1578
01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:29.680
<v Speaker 5>runners high type of kick.

1579
01:51:31.279 --> 01:51:33.439
<v Speaker 2>There's been people that I've known that were into the

1580
01:51:33.479 --> 01:51:37.319
<v Speaker 2>occult kind of and ended up getting into running or whatever.

1581
01:51:37.359 --> 01:51:39.319
<v Speaker 2>We're already into running, and then got.

1582
01:51:39.199 --> 01:51:44.239
<v Speaker 4>Into the occult and meditating, and they had even said that, uh, well,

1583
01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:48.640
<v Speaker 4>for one, they didn't have breakthroughs until they was almost

1584
01:51:48.640 --> 01:51:51.399
<v Speaker 4>like they put their body into this meditative state where

1585
01:51:51.399 --> 01:51:53.760
<v Speaker 4>they can go father It's almost like they just like

1586
01:51:54.159 --> 01:51:56.199
<v Speaker 4>they I've even had some people say to me, they

1587
01:51:56.239 --> 01:51:57.560
<v Speaker 4>don't even realize the legs.

1588
01:51:57.319 --> 01:51:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Are going anymore, almost, but you are.

1589
01:52:00.600 --> 01:52:03.359
<v Speaker 4>But like someone that I've had, I think I even

1590
01:52:03.399 --> 01:52:04.800
<v Speaker 4>had the person on the show a few years ago

1591
01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:07.680
<v Speaker 4>where they talked about how like even just their experience

1592
01:52:08.920 --> 01:52:12.399
<v Speaker 4>like like where their mind would go sometimes as they're

1593
01:52:12.479 --> 01:52:15.199
<v Speaker 4>running from like going into a meditative state or like

1594
01:52:15.239 --> 01:52:16.039
<v Speaker 4>some wild hick.

1595
01:52:18.159 --> 01:52:20.159
<v Speaker 3>The funny thing that you would compare it to running,

1596
01:52:20.199 --> 01:52:24.079
<v Speaker 3>because one of the things in running, when I used

1597
01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:26.760
<v Speaker 3>to run track when I was in high school, once

1598
01:52:26.800 --> 01:52:30.319
<v Speaker 3>you got your breathing down, that's when you fell into

1599
01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:34.000
<v Speaker 3>that state. So it's funny that that you can make

1600
01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:38.119
<v Speaker 3>that comparison, because when you're meditating, the first thing you

1601
01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:40.920
<v Speaker 3>start thinking the first thing you focus on before you

1602
01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:44.399
<v Speaker 3>start going anywhere else is your breathing. You have to

1603
01:52:44.399 --> 01:52:47.560
<v Speaker 3>get that under control, which is control it self.

1604
01:52:47.600 --> 01:52:54.239
<v Speaker 4>And I remember even with certain breathing techniques, I'm sure

1605
01:52:54.239 --> 01:52:57.319
<v Speaker 4>probably even Ethan's even heard of this stuff even everse

1606
01:52:58.079 --> 01:52:59.560
<v Speaker 4>I think there was even one time some dude I

1607
01:52:59.600 --> 01:53:01.079
<v Speaker 4>came to the lodge, I don't know if you were there,

1608
01:53:01.359 --> 01:53:03.159
<v Speaker 4>and he was going on about like some type of

1609
01:53:03.199 --> 01:53:06.279
<v Speaker 4>like breathing technique that he was trying that like kind

1610
01:53:06.279 --> 01:53:08.960
<v Speaker 4>of almost gave you someth like like almost like all

1611
01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:11.760
<v Speaker 4>the worldly like experience. But I have heard of like

1612
01:53:11.800 --> 01:53:17.000
<v Speaker 4>certain breathing techniques just breathwork can actually catch you fucking

1613
01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:18.680
<v Speaker 4>a little loopie.

1614
01:53:19.640 --> 01:53:24.079
<v Speaker 5>Think a lot of energy and cool you down even too.

1615
01:53:26.319 --> 01:53:29.960
<v Speaker 5>American Citizen X dropped the quote that I was looking

1616
01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:34.000
<v Speaker 5>for for where two or three are gathered together in

1617
01:53:34.119 --> 01:53:38.239
<v Speaker 5>my name, there I am in the midst of them

1618
01:53:39.199 --> 01:53:44.399
<v Speaker 5>math eighteen twenty. Pretty cool quote when when considered in

1619
01:53:44.439 --> 01:53:50.279
<v Speaker 5>the form of like energy and meditation, it's it's really neat.

1620
01:53:53.159 --> 01:53:54.960
<v Speaker 4>So what do you guys think about the Gateway Project

1621
01:53:55.039 --> 01:53:56.800
<v Speaker 4>at the table? What do you think? Do you think

1622
01:53:56.840 --> 01:53:57.960
<v Speaker 4>it's bullshit? You think it's real.

1623
01:54:00.199 --> 01:54:02.680
<v Speaker 5>All, Well, I don't. I definitely don't think it's bullshit.

1624
01:54:02.760 --> 01:54:05.600
<v Speaker 5>I just remained skeptical that there's not other ways to

1625
01:54:05.680 --> 01:54:10.239
<v Speaker 5>do it, that's all. And I'm I'm, you know, being

1626
01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:13.199
<v Speaker 5>skeptical as I am. I'm like, I want, like the

1627
01:54:13.239 --> 01:54:16.359
<v Speaker 5>real deal, make sure like it's one hundred percent certified,

1628
01:54:16.640 --> 01:54:25.399
<v Speaker 5>not bad messaging where I always get like with at

1629
01:54:25.399 --> 01:54:28.840
<v Speaker 5>one point it just mentioned like mine is the ruler,

1630
01:54:29.039 --> 01:54:34.359
<v Speaker 5>and it's just like I always go with mind without additives.

1631
01:54:34.399 --> 01:54:35.439
<v Speaker 5>Sorry to bather on.

1632
01:54:37.479 --> 01:54:41.720
<v Speaker 1>No, don't be. I was just thinking, like what do

1633
01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:45.159
<v Speaker 1>we know about this unro guy, Like is this something

1634
01:54:45.239 --> 01:54:50.039
<v Speaker 1>that's like was this uh you know it's patented by

1635
01:54:50.199 --> 01:54:54.479
<v Speaker 1>the government. Was this something that the government sought out?

1636
01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:59.319
<v Speaker 1>And like he got a cont like a bid off

1637
01:54:59.359 --> 01:55:03.039
<v Speaker 1>of a contract act like because then it's like I

1638
01:55:03.079 --> 01:55:07.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like obviously anything that the government is involved with,

1639
01:55:07.880 --> 01:55:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like you have to maybe be a little more selective,

1640
01:55:11.159 --> 01:55:16.720
<v Speaker 1>but uh, I don't know, like especially like what is

1641
01:55:16.760 --> 01:55:19.079
<v Speaker 1>the messaging and the tapes, you know, I would be

1642
01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:23.239
<v Speaker 1>really curious about the actual phrasing when they're doing these

1643
01:55:23.760 --> 01:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the like hypnosis stuff. For sure.

1644
01:55:30.119 --> 01:55:32.560
<v Speaker 5>Definitely definitely where I'm coming from too, but I think

1645
01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:36.520
<v Speaker 5>a lot of the principles are quite applicable even if

1646
01:55:36.520 --> 01:55:41.279
<v Speaker 5>you just do it yourself, Like the patterning and these

1647
01:55:41.439 --> 01:55:44.960
<v Speaker 5>imagination or visualization tools are certainly powerful.

1648
01:55:46.800 --> 01:55:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I agree.

1649
01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:53.600
<v Speaker 3>I take it as legit, and my viewpoint on it

1650
01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:58.239
<v Speaker 3>is I see it as science catching up with mysticism

1651
01:55:58.520 --> 01:55:59.960
<v Speaker 3>and ceremonial magic.

1652
01:56:01.119 --> 01:56:05.880
<v Speaker 6>It's basically this is a step forward.

1653
01:56:06.079 --> 01:56:08.920
<v Speaker 3>It's not concrete in my view, but this is a

1654
01:56:08.960 --> 01:56:13.640
<v Speaker 3>step forward to going to people who are skeptical, who

1655
01:56:13.680 --> 01:56:16.479
<v Speaker 3>are skeptical on whether magic is real. It's a step

1656
01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:19.720
<v Speaker 3>closer to say we have scientific proof. We could scientifically

1657
01:56:19.800 --> 01:56:23.079
<v Speaker 3>prove that these people are not kooks that are sitting

1658
01:56:23.079 --> 01:56:26.760
<v Speaker 3>here doing these these these practices and these ceremonies that

1659
01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:30.640
<v Speaker 3>they've been doing for ages. There's something to this. We

1660
01:56:30.560 --> 01:56:34.079
<v Speaker 3>we're applying the science there. I'm not saying this paper

1661
01:56:34.119 --> 01:56:37.880
<v Speaker 3>shows that we're there, but if you think about it

1662
01:56:37.960 --> 01:56:42.800
<v Speaker 3>throughout science, at one point, the kuks, the kooks were

1663
01:56:42.840 --> 01:56:45.720
<v Speaker 3>doing it first, and then they here we go, we're

1664
01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:50.119
<v Speaker 3>applying scientific math to it. So this is it's not there,

1665
01:56:50.159 --> 01:56:52.119
<v Speaker 3>but it's getting there as far as far as I

1666
01:56:52.159 --> 01:56:55.520
<v Speaker 3>see as for like Ero says, yes, I'd like to

1667
01:56:55.520 --> 01:56:59.760
<v Speaker 3>see what they what documentation they have from the experiments,

1668
01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:02.479
<v Speaker 3>but I think we won't be will be far long

1669
01:57:02.520 --> 01:57:04.000
<v Speaker 3>gone before they let that go out.

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01:57:05.279 --> 01:57:07.880
<v Speaker 1>This is so true, Judith. I love that.

1671
01:57:10.039 --> 01:57:15.279
<v Speaker 4>I will say, when I first came across this, when

1672
01:57:15.399 --> 01:57:17.720
<v Speaker 4>lux I brought it up, when we covered it and

1673
01:57:17.760 --> 01:57:21.000
<v Speaker 4>I read this, I'm very much like what you're saying, Judith.

1674
01:57:21.039 --> 01:57:23.399
<v Speaker 4>Is that like even from just certain things in there

1675
01:57:23.560 --> 01:57:26.199
<v Speaker 4>and from when I tried the tapes, It's just how

1676
01:57:26.239 --> 01:57:27.199
<v Speaker 4>I felt.

1677
01:57:27.520 --> 01:57:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is.

1678
01:57:28.600 --> 01:57:31.479
<v Speaker 4>Like kind of like a little bit of science, like

1679
01:57:31.600 --> 01:57:35.520
<v Speaker 4>explaining magic, you know. And again it doesn't necessarily have

1680
01:57:35.640 --> 01:57:40.199
<v Speaker 4>to be from that way, because I had my experience

1681
01:57:40.239 --> 01:57:42.840
<v Speaker 4>before I ever knew of the Gateway tapes, you know

1682
01:57:42.840 --> 01:57:44.479
<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying. But I was like, yes, I was like,

1683
01:57:44.520 --> 01:57:46.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, we're kind of going in like what you're saying,

1684
01:57:46.159 --> 01:57:49.000
<v Speaker 4>We're going in that direction. It's just this is on

1685
01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:52.359
<v Speaker 4>one brand, you know what I'm saying, in one way,

1686
01:57:53.279 --> 01:57:54.119
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I see.

1687
01:57:54.479 --> 01:57:56.359
<v Speaker 6>Bring up something I want them to.

1688
01:57:56.560 --> 01:57:59.199
<v Speaker 3>I wish they expounded on and that's the extraterrestrial part,

1689
01:57:59.760 --> 01:58:03.279
<v Speaker 3>but uh, we have a few decades before that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know the way the world's going nowadays,

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01:58:07.159 --> 01:58:09.880
<v Speaker 2>fucking UFO might land on the fucking White House lawn.

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01:58:11.720 --> 01:58:13.439
<v Speaker 6>Do you think they really want to land here right now?

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't even have to be real. We c g

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01:58:16.960 --> 01:58:18.760
<v Speaker 4>I and people think it's fucking real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo.

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<v Speaker 4>That way that shit worked over the radio with War

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01:58:21.520 --> 01:58:24.520
<v Speaker 4>of the Worlds, you didn't.

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01:58:24.279 --> 01:58:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Even need visual proof. People believed it was happening.

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<v Speaker 6>I War the.

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01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:33.960
<v Speaker 3>World's changed broadcasts in such a huge way. I don't

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01:58:33.960 --> 01:58:36.960
<v Speaker 3>think people understand. That's why they have to have the disclaimer.

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01:58:37.039 --> 01:58:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Because of War the Worlds and everything else. The AI

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01:58:40.479 --> 01:58:41.479
<v Speaker 3>is going to cause that again.

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01:58:42.439 --> 01:58:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think so. But uh, yeah,

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01:58:47.079 --> 01:58:48.119
<v Speaker 2>that was fun. That was great.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you finally finished it. I was getting a

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01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:51.039
<v Speaker 4>little worried. I was like, shit, I don't know, I

1708
01:58:51.039 --> 01:58:51.960
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna be able to finish it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that was great, Judy, thank you so much

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01:58:55.159 --> 01:58:56.039
<v Speaker 2>for joining in all that.

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01:58:56.439 --> 01:58:57.359
<v Speaker 6>Thank you for having me.

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01:58:58.680 --> 01:59:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, it was really good fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I told her, I was like, because I thought about

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01:59:02.039 --> 01:59:03.600
<v Speaker 4>asking her on the second one, but I was like,

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01:59:04.199 --> 01:59:05.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if she's like into this like this

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01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:08.279
<v Speaker 4>or is a cup of tea you know? And You're like,

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01:59:08.319 --> 01:59:09.920
<v Speaker 4>oh no, You're like, I'm totally down. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, yeah that's great. So yeah, I really appreciated

1719
01:59:13.399 --> 01:59:15.359
<v Speaker 4>the stuff you had to add, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you very much. We're gonna wrap it up,

1721
01:59:19.199 --> 01:59:21.600
<v Speaker 4>I guess so I'll let everybody plug their shows and

1722
01:59:21.600 --> 01:59:22.560
<v Speaker 4>advertise this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Erros, Let's go with you first, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yep, thanks for thanks for having me, and it

1725
01:59:31.039 --> 01:59:33.640
<v Speaker 1>was great to hang out with you guys tonight. You

1726
01:59:33.720 --> 01:59:36.479
<v Speaker 1>can find me on YouTube at Arrows Up and you

1727
01:59:36.520 --> 01:59:40.000
<v Speaker 1>can find me on Twitter or x at Arrows to

1728
01:59:40.079 --> 01:59:40.880
<v Speaker 1>eat those.

1729
01:59:42.600 --> 01:59:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for joining us, and thank you

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01:59:45.159 --> 01:59:49.159
<v Speaker 4>again for the topic. It was a great time. And Judith,

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01:59:49.319 --> 01:59:51.359
<v Speaker 4>please let everybody know where they can find your amazing

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01:59:51.359 --> 01:59:52.000
<v Speaker 4>YouTube channel.

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01:59:52.960 --> 01:59:55.119
<v Speaker 6>Thank you and thank you for having me. This was

1735
01:59:55.119 --> 01:59:55.600
<v Speaker 6>a blast.

1736
01:59:55.800 --> 02:00:00.760
<v Speaker 3>I had fun sharing this side of my personality. You

1737
02:00:00.760 --> 02:00:03.800
<v Speaker 3>can find me on YouTube as the Loon and you

1738
02:00:03.800 --> 02:00:05.920
<v Speaker 3>can also find me on X as the Loon as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Thank you so much. And Ethan nice.

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<v Speaker 5>That was awesome as always, really really fun to explore

1741
02:00:17.199 --> 02:00:20.920
<v Speaker 5>that Ethan Inigo Smith on all the social media, and

1742
02:00:21.000 --> 02:00:24.680
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate anyone who wants to communicate and books and

1743
02:00:25.119 --> 02:00:29.600
<v Speaker 5>writing are easily found to if you look them up. Well,

1744
02:00:29.920 --> 02:00:33.680
<v Speaker 5>a couple of articles on col Research Institute.

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02:00:35.119 --> 02:00:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you so much for that. Yeah, definitely go

1746
02:00:38.079 --> 02:00:39.720
<v Speaker 2>check out all his books. He's got a fuck ton

1747
02:00:39.720 --> 02:00:43.359
<v Speaker 2>of books that he has. He's a he's a prolific write.

1748
02:00:43.439 --> 02:00:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessive, obsessive. Yeah, he does write a lot, So

1749
02:00:48.680 --> 02:00:49.319
<v Speaker 2>go check out his.

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02:00:51.199 --> 02:00:52.720
<v Speaker 5>Level. Yeah, a few more maybe.

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02:00:52.600 --> 02:00:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Ye oh no, what would they say before you got

1752
02:00:54.760 --> 02:00:56.399
<v Speaker 2>to say you are? You will become one?

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02:00:56.479 --> 02:01:01.520
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's how we gotta do it.

1754
02:00:59.039 --> 02:01:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Right, she's the hologram.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, yeah, yeah, it's great as hologram.

1756
02:01:07.319 --> 02:01:10.760
<v Speaker 5>Looks not yet, yer.

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02:01:11.239 --> 02:01:13.279
<v Speaker 2>You gotta be a prolific writer, you gotta.

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<v Speaker 4>That's gonna be a hologram now, sir, and and living

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02:01:16.720 --> 02:01:17.560
<v Speaker 4>somewhere new.

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02:01:19.720 --> 02:01:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, total, gotcha. Uh yes, I got you all right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty stone now, believe it or not. By the end

1762
02:01:26.880 --> 02:01:30.560
<v Speaker 2>of the show, I'm saying that Vabe wasn't paying attention.

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02:01:31.960 --> 02:01:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Thank you all.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a really great time. Thank everybody in the chat.

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02:01:34.560 --> 02:01:37.479
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate it, even you Vins. I appreciate all your

1766
02:01:37.560 --> 02:01:42.039
<v Speaker 4>comments that you put in there. That's what's up yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh until the next one. Everybody be well later.
