Speaker 1: Tomorrow seems to be the big day for the vote
Speaker 1: in Congress on President Trump's legislative agenda. I've been talking
Speaker 1: to members all day and I've got a report on
Speaker 1: where negotiations are heading. Plus, South Africa's president visited the
Speaker 1: White House today. President Trump confronted him with footage that
Speaker 1: is quite familiar to our viewers. And Florida's Attorney general
Speaker 1: has responded to our report on ten million dollars that
Speaker 1: was diverted away from the Florida Medicaid program to his
Speaker 1: political committee, and Marco Rubio laid out a beautiful defense
Speaker 1: of presidential power in the Senate.
Speaker 2: It's all next to the Mac Gates show. Let's do
Speaker 2: this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 3: Do you haven't watch this guy in television.
Speaker 4: It's like a machine. He's great, Matt Gates.
Speaker 2: It's all supposed to happen tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The Big Beautiful Bill maybe up for a vote in
Speaker 1: the House of Representatives, and we are starting to see
Speaker 1: signs of a breakthrough that could deliver the requisite votes
Speaker 1: for passage.
Speaker 5: We're thrilled to predict that late tonight we will success
Speaker 5: vote one big beautiful reconciliation. This is a balancing act,
Speaker 5: one that the President personally engaged in, that balances reduction
Speaker 5: in taxes, reduction in spending, and avoids a government shut down,
Speaker 5: all in one package. I believe we're going to have
Speaker 5: one hundred percent or nearly one hundred percent of all
Speaker 5: Republicans voting for it.
Speaker 1: That was San Diego Area Congressman darryl Isia. And of
Speaker 1: course President Trump has an electoral mandate. The way Congress
Speaker 1: has been in freeze frame all year, this is the
Speaker 1: last best hope for any legislative victories. And with control
Speaker 1: of the White House and both Houses of Congress, there
Speaker 1: are no excuses anymore. We can't blame the Democrats for
Speaker 1: lighting Tesla dealerships on fire, getting arrested at ice detention centers,
Speaker 1: and crying alligator cheers for fire bureaucrats on this one.
Speaker 1: The Red team must come together on this program. We
Speaker 1: stand in solidarity with the fiscal hawks who are rightly,
Speaker 1: deeply concerned about heading to a fifty trillion dollar debt.
Speaker 2: Representative Keith self said it with a certainty, this.
Speaker 6: Bill only slows down the growth of the debt. And
Speaker 6: even if we get this bill right, We're going to
Speaker 6: go from thirty six trillion dollars in debt to fifty
Speaker 6: trillion over the next few years.
Speaker 1: I've been talking to my former colleagues on Capitol Hill
Speaker 1: all day, and the big deal comes down to these issues.
Speaker 2: First, salt.
Speaker 1: This is the state and local deduction from federal income taxes.
Speaker 1: New York and California Republicans want this deduction. Trump eliminated
Speaker 1: it during his first term. Leading the fight to re
Speaker 1: establish this tax welfare for people living in blue states
Speaker 1: is New York Congressman Mike Lawler, And as you can.
Speaker 2: See here, he's a very serious person.
Speaker 7: Slamiel Slamazzo has en temper incorporated.
Speaker 8: We're gonna make it.
Speaker 2: We are indeed being governed by the theater kids.
Speaker 1: End a, Mike, just end it. That's what Trump reportedly
Speaker 1: said to Lawler yesterday. We're hearing that this issue may
Speaker 1: be resolved by raising the salt cap to forty thousand
Speaker 1: for those making less than half a million bucks a year.
Speaker 1: All sides will probably grumble with this compromise, which may
Speaker 1: mean it's okay as a place to land. O An's
Speaker 1: John Haines pressed GP lawmakers on whether salt is still
Speaker 1: a sticking point for bill passage.
Speaker 9: President's point yesterday in conference was look that the specific
Speaker 9: details of assault deduction are not going to outweigh this
Speaker 9: broader picture of making sure that we've got common sense
Speaker 9: tax reform for the American people.
Speaker 10: I hope, you know, any kind of resolve on the
Speaker 10: salt issue is something that's going to be acceptable to
Speaker 10: the New York members as well as I know there's
Speaker 10: some members from California that we're watching it very closely.
Speaker 10: I hope that it doesn't push anybody off the back
Speaker 10: of the wagon.
Speaker 1: The best way to pay lower taxes in New York
Speaker 1: and California is to cut taxes in New York and California,
Speaker 1: not to have the people of Florida and Texas and
Speaker 1: Tennessee subsidize the high taxes in New York and California.
Speaker 1: The second issue is Medicaid. Time and again, you've heard
Speaker 1: lawmakers talk about the need to make changes to the
Speaker 1: Medicaid program on our show.
Speaker 11: They pass all this vague laws like Obamacare. They create
Speaker 11: a lot of loopholes, and they put stuff in mandatory spending,
Speaker 11: which is optometic spending, which is a no condress is
Speaker 11: never going to look and then on the issue rules.
Speaker 11: It cost US hundreds of billions of dollars to funnel
Speaker 11: money to the special interest group in New York to
Speaker 11: a hospital cartel that they cut benefits for the most
Speaker 11: disadvantage people that Medicaid needed to be but then put
Speaker 11: money on top and the pretty much is like unlimited
Speaker 11: credit line. They just money laundering the current benefits but
Speaker 11: billing at private insurance rate.
Speaker 12: Because one hundred billions of dollars.
Speaker 6: We have a whole lot of able bodied a dolls
Speaker 6: that are not contributing to society, not contributing to the economy,
Speaker 6: and are collecting government checks.
Speaker 13: The people that truly need Medicaid were focused on making
Speaker 13: sure that that program, if anything, is you know, lifted
Speaker 13: up and made sound for the people that are the
Speaker 13: vulnerable population, the age, the blind, that disabled. To make
Speaker 13: sure that it's available for them, We've got to get
Speaker 13: you know. I frankly, I call them the dead beats,
Speaker 13: the people that are the young, able bodied, working age
Speaker 13: adults that should be out there working and contributing, but
Speaker 13: for whatever reason or not going back to Clinton era
Speaker 13: work requirements, I think that we need to. I think
Speaker 13: it's common sense it's something that we need to return to.
Speaker 1: Trump doesn't want to impact Medicaid benefits, but he has
Speaker 1: instructed Congress to focus on fraud, waste, and abuse, and
Speaker 1: there's a ton of it. There are also work requirements
Speaker 1: needed in Medicaid, but they don't start soon enough. In
Speaker 1: this bill, Republicans do a disservice to their voters by
Speaker 1: pushing major reforms beyond the Trump presidency. I believe that
Speaker 1: the best way to root out the fraud, waste, and
Speaker 1: abuse in Medicaid is to send more of the programmatic
Speaker 1: features to the states and get DC's strings off the money.
Speaker 1: Some states would fail, some would succeed, and best practices
Speaker 1: would be copied. There doesn't seem to be a fundamental
Speaker 1: change in benefits for Medicaid recipients under the current draft
Speaker 1: of the legislation. This could be tinkered with until the
Speaker 1: final vote, which could be expected late.
Speaker 2: To night or tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The third main issue is the Green New Deal tax
Speaker 1: credit system. Trump is correctly called this the Green New scam,
Speaker 1: and we see why. Biden's legislation disrupted energy markets, destroyed farmland,
Speaker 1: made fuel and heating unaffordable, and for what so billionaires
Speaker 1: in private jets could lecture you and your family about
Speaker 1: the campfire you have in your backyard. The current bill
Speaker 1: slashes about half of these absurd credits. Texas Congressman Ship
Speaker 1: Roy and others wanted to go farther, but back in
Speaker 1: faceout challenges in the Senate where moderate Republicans are actually
Speaker 1: supporting some of the Biden era policies. As Senator John
Speaker 1: Kurrs explained on CNN.
Speaker 14: There are some provisions in the IRA that I feel
Speaker 14: like are actually Republican priorities carbon, sequestration, nuclear, and so
Speaker 14: I've simply urged my fellow Republicans to be thoughtful and
Speaker 14: to not come in with a sledgehammer, but to come
Speaker 14: in with a scalpuler.
Speaker 1: Tragedy did strike the congressional family last night. Democrat Congressman
Speaker 1: Jerry Connelly has died. This leaves his seat vacant and
Speaker 1: alters the number of votes needed to pass President Trump's bill.
Speaker 1: Joining US now Executive director of Unleashed Prosperity Tim desher So, Tim,
Speaker 1: we're getting word from Speaker Johnson that he's met with
Speaker 1: some of the remaining holdouts on this Republican legislation. It
Speaker 1: is where they have placed all their marbles. What issues
Speaker 1: are you watching to see worked through.
Speaker 12: I think the key word here is economic growth. I
Speaker 12: mean that is the one thing that President Trump campaigned
Speaker 12: on time after time after time last year on the trail,
Speaker 12: and I think that the provisions in this bill are
Speaker 12: going to have to do that. And so what we're
Speaker 12: looking at right now is what are the drivers of
Speaker 12: the economic growth in this bill. We've got tax cuts,
Speaker 12: we've got expensing, we've got reduction in spending. A little
Speaker 12: bit of reduction spending, and I think that's kind of
Speaker 12: a hiccup that we're kind of focusing on right now.
Speaker 12: But you take all that stuff. You take no tax
Speaker 12: on tips, you take no tax in social security. This
Speaker 12: is all money that leaves the government and goes back
Speaker 12: to the people the way it should be, in our opinion,
Speaker 12: driving growth, driving investment.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 12: The other one I forgot about it the small business tax.
Speaker 12: We're going to up that deduction that they take from
Speaker 12: twenty to twenty three percent. That's a big deal for
Speaker 12: small business growth. And we know that small businesses drive
Speaker 12: this economy. So when we're looking at the big thing,
Speaker 12: it's growth. And I think that it's coming together and
Speaker 12: I think that they're going to come up with a
Speaker 12: deal very soon.
Speaker 1: There's something so telling about the fact that the tax
Speaker 1: issue is emerging as really the hammer to get people
Speaker 1: to vote yes. I assumed at the beginning of this
Speaker 1: Congress that people would be really pushed to vote for
Speaker 1: this bill based.
Speaker 2: On the border provisions. Right. The border was so central
Speaker 2: to the campaign.
Speaker 1: Securing the border unites the most conservative Republican and even
Speaker 1: some of the most liberal Republicans. But Trump fixed the
Speaker 1: border so quickly, turned the caravans around, established operational control,
Speaker 1: and I don't really hear that in a lot of
Speaker 1: the frontline messaging.
Speaker 2: It's exactly what you said.
Speaker 1: It's that people are being told, if you don't vote
Speaker 1: for this bill, it's going to result in a massive
Speaker 1: tax increase because a lot of those Trump tax cuts
Speaker 1: that drove the economy are going to expire. So all
Speaker 1: the things you said seem to be achieving broad agreement, right,
Speaker 1: the expensing, the rates, the ability to bring capital back here.
Speaker 1: What is the sticky wicket is the salt issue. This
Speaker 1: notion that in red states we ought to supplement the
Speaker 1: bad tax decisions in blue states, And what makes it
Speaker 1: politically challenging is that a lot of the majority makers
Speaker 1: are in New York, California, some Republicans scattered around Illinois.
Speaker 1: How are you thinking about the salt question and how
Speaker 1: it impacts that growth analysis you just walked us through.
Speaker 12: Why would red states subsidize bad policy in blue states?
Speaker 12: And that's what SALT did. It's the most costly thing
Speaker 12: in that bill at this point, other than again, I
Speaker 12: don't want to talk about how we're not taking on
Speaker 12: the massive spending. I agree with a lot of the
Speaker 12: folks on the right who are holding this up to
Speaker 12: say we need to focus on this. But when you're
Speaker 12: talking about quote unquote paying for this bill, that's the
Speaker 12: Salt thing has really the big thing in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 12: It saved us a trillion dollars. It was the thing
Speaker 12: that got us across the finish line to pass it
Speaker 12: because we continued to subsidize these massively outrun, terribly performing
Speaker 12: states where people are moving out, they're losing their tax base,
Speaker 12: so all they have left to do is increase regulation
Speaker 12: and increase taxes, and so they desperately needed that deduction.
Speaker 12: Now here's the problem. Now, because of the TCJA, not
Speaker 12: many people are doing itemized deductions anymore. You got ninety
Speaker 12: one percent of America who is now taking the standard deductions.
Speaker 12: That's me included. By the way, my wife and I included,
Speaker 12: we don't have to take care, We don't have to
Speaker 12: look at our receipts and look at our deductions. All
Speaker 12: we do is take the standard deduction. Because President Trump
Speaker 12: is flattening out that tax, that tax, that tax base.
Speaker 12: We are on our way to a flat tax here,
Speaker 12: and that's the fairness that we are contrasting. I think
Speaker 12: Americans get it. President Trump brought them into the tax
Speaker 12: conversation by saying, you shouldn't have tax on your tips,
Speaker 12: you shouldn't have tax on your Social Security. So when
Speaker 12: you're talking about why is America talking about tax is
Speaker 12: because President Trump brought them to the table when nobody
Speaker 12: else would. And I think that's a huge part of
Speaker 12: this bill, and we're seeing that. I think people do
Speaker 12: understand the salt deduction fight that's going on, and I
Speaker 12: think that they're in the corner of those who say
Speaker 12: we gotta rain that in a lot.
Speaker 1: Another big flash point is how to approach the Green
Speaker 1: New Deal tax credits that are being massively deployed on
Speaker 1: Wall Street disrupting energy markets, I think, negatively impacting.
Speaker 2: Growth in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: But you know, we've heard moderate to liberal senators like
Speaker 1: John Curtis in Utah saying, well, maybe we want to
Speaker 1: keep some of this carbon capture credits. And you've even
Speaker 1: got some of the Northeastern Republicans saying, well, maybe not
Speaker 1: all these these Green New Deal tax credits need to
Speaker 1: be repealed. How does Unleashed Prosperity think about those, is
Speaker 1: it does it need to throw it all out or
Speaker 1: are some of those tax credits worthy of keeping in
Speaker 1: the Trump budget.
Speaker 12: Look, the bottom line is is that there is no
Speaker 12: Green Energy Deal unless there are subsidies. You know, as
Speaker 12: Art Laugher famously said, you know you want less of
Speaker 12: something subsidize it's that is what's happened here is we've
Speaker 12: completely taken any sort of green energy off of the
Speaker 12: This could be profitable, this could be something that works,
Speaker 12: because now everybody's just relying on subsidies and they're upping
Speaker 12: the price, making it way more expensive and way more
Speaker 12: and by the way, the technology isn't even there yet.
Speaker 12: So if you're asking me if we supported the Green
Speaker 12: New Deal or anything in it, the answer is an
Speaker 12: unequivocal cell. No, we want that thing.
Speaker 1: You sound like all the Republicans when they campaign, But
Speaker 1: then they get elected and some lobbyists comes and talks
Speaker 1: about all this is really valuable, and then they latch
Speaker 1: onto it and makes it more challenging for people. And
Speaker 1: so you laid out the jatrone correctly. There's another area
Speaker 1: where that exact same pattern is playing out, and it's
Speaker 1: on Medicaid work requirements. I've seen so many Republicans run
Speaker 1: on work requirements as part of their messaging, and now
Speaker 1: they want to they want to say that they pass
Speaker 1: work requirements, but start the work requirements after Donald Trump
Speaker 1: leaves office. Does that seem sincere to you?
Speaker 12: Yeah, but no it doesn't. And and the thing is
Speaker 12: is they have all the cover in the world. President
Speaker 12: Trump went on the hill yesterday and said, waste, fraud
Speaker 12: and abuse. We're not touching anything else. Waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 12: And guess what, there are millions of people that are
Speaker 12: getting medicaid that should not be getting medicaid. And let
Speaker 12: me tell you something, Matt, that right, there is something
Speaker 12: that America is woke to. At this point. We have
Speaker 12: we have come to life on this issue. We understand that,
Speaker 12: and it doesn't make sense because what we say is
Speaker 12: is that if you want better healthcare, better Medicaid, then
Speaker 12: you got to get the people who are not supposed
Speaker 12: to be on there off of it. There's only so
Speaker 12: much money that can cover that. And so what anybody
Speaker 12: that's trying to say, oh, we don't want to touch Medicaid,
Speaker 12: they're being scared. And I'm telling you something. President Trump
Speaker 12: went to the Hill yesterday and showed them you don't
Speaker 12: have to be scared, because look, I'm taking it for
Speaker 12: I'm giving you the messaging right now. Waste fraud and abuse.
Speaker 12: It's something everybody gets.
Speaker 1: If all you targeted was the waste, fraud and abuse
Speaker 1: in the medicaid program, it would be a target rich environment,
Speaker 1: like you were a mosquito at a nudist colony. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they could do a lot more than they've
Speaker 1: done so far on some of that. Tim Desher, executive
Speaker 1: director of Unleash Prosperity, thanks so much for joining us
Speaker 1: on the program and sharing your expertise.
Speaker 2: Thanks Matt.
Speaker 1: Coming up, President Trump had the President of South Africa
Speaker 1: at the White House today and some of the footage
Speaker 1: that you've seen on the mac Age show was actually
Speaker 1: shown to the visiting President.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it after quick break.
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Speaker 17: You don't know the fact that they're right.
Speaker 2: Asked whether to say that that would be on a.
Speaker 17: No, I would say, in the United a very easy thing.
Speaker 17: In the United States has a right to pick and
Speaker 17: choose who they allow it to.
Speaker 2: The even based on the color of somebody's skin.
Speaker 17: You're the one that's talking about the color of their skin,
Speaker 17: not me.
Speaker 2: These are.
Speaker 17: Turned down and they were killed in hand the color
Speaker 17: of their skin.
Speaker 2: Marco's not given an inch.
Speaker 1: That was Secretary of State Marco Rubio taking Democrat Senator
Speaker 1: Tim Kane to task over dozens of white farmers fleeing
Speaker 1: genocide in South Africa to take refuge in the United States.
Speaker 1: Just today the White House, President Trump confronted the South
Speaker 1: African president about this genocide, and it took him by
Speaker 1: surprise that there was a video shown depicting the gravity
Speaker 1: of the situation that you will recognize.
Speaker 4: Take listen, turn the lights down and just put this on.
Speaker 4: It's right behind you.
Speaker 3: This is a very bad These are burial sides right here,
Speaker 3: burial sites over a thousand of white farmers. A terrible side.
Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like it. Those people are all killed.
Speaker 18: Have they told you where that is, mister president. No,
Speaker 18: I'd like to know where that is, because this I've
Speaker 18: never seen.
Speaker 4: When you look at the videos, I mean, how does
Speaker 4: it get worse?
Speaker 3: And these are people that are officials, and they're saying
Speaker 3: that kill the white farmer and take their land.
Speaker 18: How a government policy is completely completely against what he
Speaker 18: was saying, even in the parliament. And they're a small
Speaker 18: minority party which is allowed to exist in terms of
Speaker 18: our constitution.
Speaker 4: But you do allow them to take land? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: to allow them to take land. Nobody can they take
Speaker 4: the land?
Speaker 3: They kill the white farmer, and when they killed the
Speaker 3: white farmer.
Speaker 4: Nothing happens to them, mister president.
Speaker 1: The Pentagon announced that they would be accepting a Katari
Speaker 1: jet to be used as air Force one or.
Speaker 4: What are you talking about it? What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: You know, what does this have to do with the
Speaker 4: Qatar jet? They're giving the United.
Speaker 3: States Air Force a jet, okay, and it's a great thing.
Speaker 4: We're talking about a lot of other things. It's NBC
Speaker 4: trying to get off the subject of what you just saw.
Speaker 4: You are a real you know, you're a terrible report.
Speaker 4: Number one.
Speaker 3: You don't have what it takes to be a reporter.
Speaker 3: You're not smart enough. But these are all white farmers
Speaker 3: that are being buried. And he asks about a jet
Speaker 3: that was given you to be ashamed.
Speaker 4: You know, you're you are so bad, You're such a
Speaker 4: bad report. These are articles over the last few days.
Speaker 3: Death of people, death, death, death, horrible death.
Speaker 4: So when you say what would I like to do,
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: We have hundreds of people, thousands of people trying to
Speaker 3: come into our country because they feel they're going to
Speaker 3: be killed and their land.
Speaker 4: Is going to be confiscated.
Speaker 3: And you do have laws that were passed that gives
Speaker 3: you the right to confiscate land for no payment.
Speaker 4: You can take away land for no payment. I want
Speaker 4: to clarify that a.
Speaker 3: Correct and affair media exposes things, but we have a
Speaker 3: very corrupt media.
Speaker 4: They won't even report this.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen someone that uncomfortable in that seat since
Speaker 1: he was wearing a sweatsuit from Ukraine. As you know,
Speaker 1: we've been covering the genocide in South Africa extensively on
Speaker 1: our program and we continue to do so. Rejoining our program,
Speaker 1: Executive director of the Afrikaner Foundation and head of Policy
Speaker 1: at the Solidarity.
Speaker 2: Movement, Ernst Wrotes.
Speaker 1: Ernst, you were on one of the very first episodes
Speaker 1: we had of our show talking about these challenges in
Speaker 1: South Africa.
Speaker 2: Did you ever think that.
Speaker 1: President Trump would be force feeding the President of South
Speaker 1: Africa some of the very clips you and I were
Speaker 1: discussing earlier in the year.
Speaker 8: Well, yes, Matt.
Speaker 19: Thank you very much for having me, and thank you
Speaker 19: also for what you've been doing to raise awareness about this.
Speaker 8: Just a quick technical note.
Speaker 19: I'm with a new institution called Lex Libertas, which is
Speaker 19: an institution aimed at promoting a more sustainable political dispensation
Speaker 19: for South Africa.
Speaker 8: But yes, today was a very.
Speaker 19: Important moment for South Africa because this issue, the attacks
Speaker 19: on the farmers, the targeting of the farmers, the race laws,
Speaker 19: the threatening of property rights, all of these things. I mean,
Speaker 19: we've been talking about these things, You've been talking about it,
Speaker 19: and so many people seem to be utterly committed to
Speaker 19: denying that these things are happening, which has led to
Speaker 19: a point where we saw what President Trump did in
Speaker 19: the office in the White House today was to say, well,
Speaker 19: if people are going to keep pretending that this is
Speaker 19: a happening, let's show it to the world. And so
Speaker 19: this was certainly a moment that made history for South Africa,
Speaker 19: and I believe for President Trump and even for America
Speaker 19: as well.
Speaker 8: This was a very important moment.
Speaker 1: I was taken by the South African President's reaction. He
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable, He was trying to change the subject. He
Speaker 1: was trying to act as if this was not a
Speaker 1: forceful political movement to target farmers in South Africa.
Speaker 2: What did you make of the way he squirmed there in.
Speaker 1: What are starting to be some uncomfortable Oval office meetings.
Speaker 1: If people aren't candid with President Trump.
Speaker 8: Yes, you know what was really disturbing about.
Speaker 19: His response was, and I saw people on x have
Speaker 19: been pointing this out. So they played that entire video
Speaker 19: of people people calling for genocides, saying we should slaughter
Speaker 19: these minorities, we should you know, we should exterminate them,
Speaker 19: and so forth. And his first response was, he doesn't
Speaker 19: know where that video footage of the crosses are, So
Speaker 19: he wasn't appalled by the clips of people saying that,
Speaker 19: you know, they might call for the killing of white
Speaker 19: people and talking about slitting the throat of whiteness because
Speaker 19: he knows that he knows that he's happening, and he's
Speaker 19: only His first response was that one particular shot of
Speaker 19: or clip of the white crosses for the victims of farmers,
Speaker 19: he doesn't know where that is. I mean, if you
Speaker 19: live in South Africa, you know where that is because
Speaker 19: it's a very well known monument. But yes, I think
Speaker 19: they didn't see this coming. But this very same president
Speaker 19: Ramapausa has previously been to the United States to openly
Speaker 19: and blatantly lie about the reality in South Africa, saying
Speaker 19: that the farm murders are not happening.
Speaker 8: It's it's all a lie.
Speaker 19: There are no killings of farmers in South Africa, and
Speaker 19: so you can only push a lie so far.
Speaker 8: And if that's his position, as it.
Speaker 19: Has been, it's good that the truth has come out
Speaker 19: in such a way as it is today.
Speaker 1: How close is the crew government of South Africa to
Speaker 1: these political leaders and these political movements calling explicitly for
Speaker 1: genocide of white people.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so that's a good and a very important question.
Speaker 19: So firstly, there is some friction between these movements, largely
Speaker 19: and mostly because they are competing for the same voter base.
Speaker 19: But ideologically there's not much difference between the ANC and
Speaker 19: the EFF, which is this movement chanting kill the bour
Speaker 19: kill the whites. In fact, this chant kill the kill
Speaker 19: the farmer was made famous by the ANC. It's an
Speaker 19: A and C song. The ANC is the ruling party
Speaker 19: of which the President of South Africa is also the president.
Speaker 19: They popularized this song. Julius Malema, who we saw in
Speaker 19: those clips, was the president of the ANC's youth wing.
Speaker 8: He left the AMC.
Speaker 19: Not because of ideological differences but because of internal faction
Speaker 19: fighting and he started his own movement and after him
Speaker 19: chanting these kill the bir chants and talking about killing
Speaker 19: white people and so forth. President Tramaposo, who was in
Speaker 19: the White House today, has publicly said that he would
Speaker 19: like Julius Malema, this person, to rejoin the a n C,
Speaker 19: because he can see that he's still a in C
Speaker 19: deep down in his heart. So ideologically they are very
Speaker 19: much aligned, although even though they would you know, they
Speaker 19: would have some disagreements about corruption and things like that,
Speaker 19: but that's largely because they compete for the same votive base.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the headline right there, Ernest, that that Malema,
Speaker 1: the person who is explicitly calling for genocide and killing
Speaker 1: people in South Africa based on the color of their
Speaker 1: skin and the land they own, that he would be welcomed,
Speaker 1: welcomed in the party of the President and the ruling
Speaker 1: government there, And that tells you how close they are.
Speaker 1: Sometimes in America we see that a fringe movement on
Speaker 1: the right or left can draw the center further to
Speaker 1: the edge by influence, and that seems to be what's
Speaker 1: happening here. How would you suggest United States policy makers
Speaker 1: react to these troubling developments in South Africa going forward.
Speaker 19: Well, I think there could be there should be a
Speaker 19: variety of positions taken by the United States. First and foremost,
Speaker 19: the US government should take a very hard line on
Speaker 19: the race laws in South Africa, the threatening of property rights,
Speaker 19: the targeting of farmers, the romanticizing of violence committed against farmers.
Speaker 19: This is a it's a non negotiable that these things
Speaker 19: have to stop. But these are policy positions, and the
Speaker 19: problem in South Africa is largely that these policy crises
Speaker 19: that we have are a result of deeper rooted structural
Speaker 19: problems because we have a political system that is very
Speaker 19: much modeled on the same ideology that underpins the European
Speaker 19: Union and the United Nations, this idea that we can
Speaker 19: have this sort of very big globalist approach to governing
Speaker 19: a complicated and a large territory. And so South Africa
Speaker 19: needs a more sustainable political sensation, which means decentralization of
Speaker 19: the political system and self governance for the communities, including
Speaker 19: the africaners who live in South Africa, no.
Speaker 2: Question about it.
Speaker 1: Ernst Routes, thank you so much for rejoining the program
Speaker 1: and continuing to bring this important issue to the forefront.
Speaker 1: Is great to see some of the very discussions you
Speaker 1: and I had back in January repeated and reflected and
Speaker 1: seen in the Oval office with the most powerful people
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 8: We appreciate you absolutely, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: And coming up.
Speaker 1: Living near a golf course may increase your chance of
Speaker 1: getting Parkinson's. According to a recent report, doctor Robert Malone
Speaker 1: has analyzed it.
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Speaker 1: Parkinson's disease. More than a million Americans are living with
Speaker 1: the condition. Full ninety thousand are diagnosed each year, which
Speaker 1: is up substantially from the sixty thousand per year we
Speaker 1: saw previously, according to the Parkinson's Foundation. A new peer
Speaker 1: reviewed study published by doctor Britney Krenzowski and others say
Speaker 1: that living near a golf course increases your risk of
Speaker 1: getting Parkinson's. Parkinson's depletes the brain of dopamine, which is
Speaker 1: critical for controlling movement. As dopamine levels drop, motor symptoms
Speaker 1: began to appear, including tremors, slowness of movement, and a
Speaker 1: shuffling gait. There's no cure for Parkinson's, just symptom management.
Speaker 1: The study finds that groundwater contamination from golf courses and
Speaker 1: pesticides damage the brain and increase the prevalence of this
Speaker 1: incurable disease. Living near a golf course has long been
Speaker 1: a symbol of arrival in the upper middle class, great views, recreations, socializing,
Speaker 1: and sport. Doctor Robert Malone noted the scientific findings in
Speaker 1: a recent post on x saying, this is why the
Speaker 1: Maha movement is so important. Doctor Robert Malone is the
Speaker 1: author of cy War Enforcing the New World Order, and
Speaker 1: he joins me. Now, Doctor Malone, I noticed your commentary
Speaker 1: on social media regards the study over Parkinson's and golf courses.
Speaker 1: How should people be thinking about the results.
Speaker 20: So this is a fascinating study, Matt. It comes from
Speaker 20: the Mayo Clinic Credit where credits do and they employed
Speaker 20: a database that they've generated over many many years involving
Speaker 20: surveillance in Wisconsin and some adjacent states. And what It's
Speaker 20: long been known that there is a link between pesticides
Speaker 20: and Parkinson's disease, but this is perhaps the first really
Speaker 20: solid case controlled epidemiology study that has looked at the
Speaker 20: practical consequence of that potential leakage, and that is the
Speaker 20: proximity to golf courses. And this is what really clinches
Speaker 20: the deal. If you share a water source with a
Speaker 20: golf course, and it's shown that the closer that you
Speaker 20: live to these golf courses in this study, the higher
Speaker 20: your risk accumulated risk of developing Parkinson's. And this is
Speaker 20: attributed to in the study the dense use of pesticides
Speaker 20: that are necessary in order to maintain these little micro
Speaker 20: environments of modern golf courses. And so this is really
Speaker 20: the first definitive epidemiologic study showing this correlation between these
Speaker 20: areas that have high pesticide use and the risk of
Speaker 20: Parkinson's from living close to them.
Speaker 2: Parkinson's has long.
Speaker 20: Been known to have some genetic component and some environmental component,
Speaker 20: but this is really tying it down.
Speaker 2: So for all those.
Speaker 20: Wealthy folks that are living right there on the green,
Speaker 20: you might want to start thinking about getting your watershipped in.
Speaker 1: The cruel irony of this, doctor Malone, is that a
Speaker 1: lot of people move near a golf course because they
Speaker 1: have retired and they want to do more active recreation
Speaker 1: and be around the type of activity that can extend
Speaker 1: someone's life. I mean, in my home, Florida, if you've
Speaker 1: closed your eyes and through a golf ball, there's like
Speaker 1: a fifty percent chance that will just land on a fairway.
Speaker 2: Because we have these things everywhere.
Speaker 1: How long would someone have to be exposed to some
Speaker 1: of these environmental factors before they might see an increased
Speaker 1: risk of these health consequences.
Speaker 20: So the study doesn't address that the temper relationship it shows,
Speaker 20: so it doesn't even show a cumulative risk component, which
Speaker 20: would be the way that you'd address that. That must
Speaker 20: be pending in a following study. I would think that
Speaker 20: would be a logical successor, and thank you for pointing
Speaker 20: it out, but right now I don't have the data.
Speaker 20: In this study doesn't address the duration of time. Typically
Speaker 20: with these environmental toxins, it would be a gradient. So
Speaker 20: the longer the greater your exposure, the greater your risk.
Speaker 1: Is the data here strong enough to inform regulations around
Speaker 1: the types of pesticides that should be used in how
Speaker 1: water around golf courses should be treated and distributed.
Speaker 20: I don't think it would meet the criteria of EPA,
Speaker 20: but of course, right now EPA is you know, we're
Speaker 20: all a little bit iffy about the role of the
Speaker 20: EPA in setting regulatory policy. But there's no clear linkage
Speaker 20: between any specific pesticide. There's about four of them that
Speaker 20: are on the list of high risk, and I don't
Speaker 20: think we're there yet in terms of being able to
Speaker 20: do that, but we absolutely have the data now thanks
Speaker 20: to the Mayo Clinic, that would justify a much more
Speaker 20: extensive study and a deeper dive into this, and that
Speaker 20: absolutely is the kind of thing that the NIH should
Speaker 20: be taking on.
Speaker 1: You are, indeed the literally the guy who wrote the
Speaker 1: book on the New World Order and how you know,
Speaker 1: really what we've all been through and what we don't
Speaker 1: want to have to go through again.
Speaker 2: I've got to ask you about this.
Speaker 1: The World Health Organization has recently announced that they I've
Speaker 1: promulgated new standards regarding how to respond to the next
Speaker 1: pandemic with equity and when people use that word, it
Speaker 1: has typically been weaponized. Does it concern you that the
Speaker 1: World Health Organization is giving greater thought to how they
Speaker 1: would regulate a future pandemic.
Speaker 20: Absolutely, and they are trying to soften the quote treaty
Speaker 20: and use different words and euphemisms around it. The issue
Speaker 20: here for the United States, I mean, we can talk
Speaker 20: about our responsibilities as a global leader, and that's all great,
Speaker 20: but the thrust of the Trump administration and make America
Speaker 20: great again is to focus on the United States in
Speaker 20: US sovereignty. This is a threat to US sovereignty and
Speaker 20: the World Health Organization, as you point out with that
Speaker 20: word equity, is absolutely invested in a socialist model. They
Speaker 20: are part of the United Nations. The United Nations is
Speaker 20: intrinsically socialist, has headed up by a socialist. They wish
Speaker 20: to see a world.
Speaker 2: This is the.
Speaker 20: World Health Organization in which we do have more quote equity,
Speaker 20: distribution of resources.
Speaker 12: Et cetera.
Speaker 20: And they believe that it's appropriate under a global governance organization,
Speaker 20: which is what they advocate together with the World Economic Forum.
Speaker 1: I've got to leave it there, doctor malone amount of time,
Speaker 1: but thank you so much as always for coming on
Speaker 1: and sharing your outstanding expertise.
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Speaker 1: We have breaking news tonight in the Big Apple. The
Speaker 1: Justice Department has reportedly opened to criminal investigation of the
Speaker 1: former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo for allegedly lining to
Speaker 1: Congress about nursing home debts in the Empire State during COVID.
Speaker 1: The probe into the New York City Mayril. Front Runner
Speaker 1: was launched about a month ago in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: From the US Attorney's office. Our good friend Ed Martin
Speaker 1: was the US attorney who began that, and now it's
Speaker 1: been handed off to Jeanine Piro. The Republican led House
Speaker 1: Oversight Committee asked Pam Bondi to pursue criminal charges against
Speaker 1: Cuomo for making criminally false statements. During a twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four interview with that subcommittee on COVID, the House Oversight
Speaker 1: Chairman James Comer said that there was overwhelming evidence that
Speaker 1: Cuomo presided over a July twenty twenty audit that undercounted
Speaker 1: the number of deaths in some ways by forty six percent,
Speaker 1: which seems.
Speaker 2: Like a lot. Now.
Speaker 1: Cuomo responded, quote, we have never been informed of any
Speaker 1: such matter, so why would someone leak it?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 2: That was his statement.
Speaker 1: The answer is obvious. This is lawfair and election interference,
Speaker 1: plain and simple, something Donald Trump and his top Justice
Speaker 1: Department officials say they are against.
Speaker 2: It's quite rich coming from Cuomo.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite New Yorkers is Kevin Smith. He's
Speaker 1: the founder and host of a loud Majority Live and
Speaker 1: he joins US now. So Kevin your reaction as a
Speaker 1: New Yorker to the news that to former governor current
Speaker 1: mayoral candidate Andrew Cuomo is under investigation by the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice for a lying to Congress.
Speaker 21: Well, firstly, I think this is great that the victims
Speaker 21: of Andrew Cuomo may actually get some sort of justice.
Speaker 21: But more than that, it's nice to see someone, anyone,
Speaker 21: is actually being held accountable for lying under oath. And
Speaker 21: it seems to me like this happens all the time
Speaker 21: and nobody, nobody ever gets convicted of perjury or at
Speaker 21: least tried for perjury. As far as the New York
Speaker 21: City Mayor's race goes, he's already running campaign heads saying
Speaker 21: that if Trump doesn't want me, then New Yorker should.
Speaker 21: So we'll see how this impacts the mayor race. But
Speaker 21: I think it's going to help him in the mayor race,
Speaker 21: but it's going to be pretty negative for him overall
Speaker 21: because it's quite clear that he lied under oath.
Speaker 1: You were one of the first activists to sound the
Speaker 1: alarm and say, look, if Cuomo gets in this may.
Speaker 2: Oral race, he is the front runner. That was before
Speaker 2: he was pulling ahead.
Speaker 1: That was before Adams made the jump into the independent lane.
Speaker 2: Now, all of the polling I've.
Speaker 1: Seen seems to indicate he indeed is poised to win
Speaker 1: the Democratic nomination, and it would take something very jostling
Speaker 1: in our politics to have anyone other than the Democratic nominee.
Speaker 2: Win that contest.
Speaker 1: Do you think that this type of an investigation in
Speaker 1: today's world of politics actually helps him or do you
Speaker 1: think it'll hurt him, just given the fact that he's
Speaker 1: running in a Democratic primary in a very liberal city.
Speaker 21: Oh, I think it's definitely going to help him, one
Speaker 21: hundred percent. It's going to help him. There's so many
Speaker 21: New Yorkers who unfortunately blindly hate President Trump. They're going
Speaker 21: to see this as political. He's going to spin it
Speaker 21: as political. He's coming after his political opponents. He's going
Speaker 21: to say, look, he's doing it in New Jersey, he's
Speaker 21: doing it in New York too, And unfortunately, I think
Speaker 21: that's going to be a winning message for him in
Speaker 21: the mayor race, particularly if it is a three way
Speaker 21: race like we think it's going to be.
Speaker 1: Well, let's take a moment to peer into that three
Speaker 1: way dynamic, because be weird on the debate stage to
Speaker 1: have uh, you know, former Governor Cuomo, who may be
Speaker 1: under indictments, certainly under investigation at this moment, right next
Speaker 1: to Mayor Adams who was under indictment from the Biden
Speaker 1: administration and then relieved of that pressure by the Trump
Speaker 1: administration and the subsequent judicial activity that ensued.
Speaker 2: How does that even work?
Speaker 21: Well, I think that's what Curtis Leewa has to lead
Speaker 21: with on that debate stage. He's got to sit there
Speaker 21: and go, I'm the only one currently not under federal indictment,
Speaker 21: but it is that should be the talking point for
Speaker 21: the Republicans moving into this mayor's race. And look, if
Speaker 21: it's a three way race, who knows what could happen.
Speaker 21: There's also speculation that there could be a four way race.
Speaker 21: If if Zultan I always mess with his name, if
Speaker 21: he gets endorsed by the Working Families Party, it could
Speaker 21: really jar this race up, possibly a four way race,
Speaker 21: you never know, leading to a Republican mayor in New York.
Speaker 21: But I think Cuomo is certainly going to take advantage
Speaker 21: of this. He is a he comes from a political machine,
Speaker 21: and they know how to spend pretty much anything.
Speaker 1: I have heard from some of our friends in New
Speaker 1: York that they don't want to see Cuomo go down
Speaker 1: too hard, too fast. Maybe you're right, the looming investigation
Speaker 1: gives Cuomo something to run against, gives him a mechanism
Speaker 1: by which to talk about how he's going to fight
Speaker 1: back against the Trump administration or whatever.
Speaker 2: Nonsense.
Speaker 1: But there's a worldview where if Cuomo were mortally wounded
Speaker 1: politically speaking of course, in this in this investigation, then
Speaker 1: you would have less of a likelihood of a Republican
Speaker 1: kind of slipping between the liberal Balkanized factions of New
Speaker 1: York politics. That actually the best thing for the Republican
Speaker 1: Curtis Sola, who who mentioned, is to have a viable
Speaker 1: Eric Adams, a viable Cuomo, a viable socialist leftist. There's
Speaker 1: probably some sort of Free Palestine party in New York
Speaker 1: that could soak up, you know, eight to twelve percent
Speaker 1: of the vote, and that that really is what allows
Speaker 1: Republicans a lane to unite. Is that your theory or
Speaker 1: you know the other side of the coin, Kevin, are
Speaker 1: the folks who say, look after COVID, we never got
Speaker 1: any real accountability for the people who did terrible things,
Speaker 1: and we'll trade the political chess pieces for real accountability
Speaker 1: for a guy who we believe lied to.
Speaker 21: Congress absolutely, and you know, the four way race, I
Speaker 21: think that opens up doors we've never seen before. You
Speaker 21: know this, we live in a two party country. A
Speaker 21: four way race would be incredibly interesting in New York
Speaker 21: City and I think that would certainly open up the
Speaker 21: door for Curtis Leewa to win. But with that being said,
Speaker 21: do we want to trade that for actual accountability? And
Speaker 21: some would say yes, some would say no. I think
Speaker 21: it would be nice to finally. I mean, you know,
Speaker 21: you spent a lot of time in Congress listening to
Speaker 21: deeple lied directly to your face and nothing ended up happening.
Speaker 21: And I'm sure that was incredibly frustrating for you as
Speaker 21: a member of Congress, as it was for the American
Speaker 21: people who think that you could just go into Congress
Speaker 21: and lie and as long as you're a Democrat and
Speaker 21: nothing really happens to you.
Speaker 1: And these were not harmless lies, like I believe, people
Speaker 1: lie to Congress, like you say, almost every week, and
Speaker 1: it is a crime, but no one really gets held.
Speaker 2: Accountable for it.
Speaker 1: But with Cuomo, it felt like it was something different
Speaker 1: Kevin because the way he was lionized by the liberal media.
Speaker 1: Right every night we had the Chris Cuomo Andrew Cuomo Show,
Speaker 1: and you know, the references to Italian cooking, and we
Speaker 1: had to see other governors follow in the policy choices
Speaker 1: that were leading to deaths. Like Cuomo was up there lying,
Speaker 1: but he was the just apple of the liberal media
Speaker 1: as either. Remember they were saying he should run for
Speaker 1: president at the time. And so how important is the
Speaker 1: is the signal scent holding someone kind of as high
Speaker 1: up in the COVID mafia as Andrew Cuomo accountable?
Speaker 21: Oh honestly, I don't know if they could get much higher. Obviously,
Speaker 21: I think Anthony Fauci would be higher on that list.
Speaker 21: But look, the Cromos are a dynasty. You know, Chris
Speaker 21: and Andrew think that they're better than the rest of
Speaker 21: New Yorkers, And any New Yorker knows that. I mean,
Speaker 21: you had Chris Crmo on TV two days ago saying
Speaker 21: that Americans didn't have a right to know about Joe
Speaker 21: Biden's cancer diagnosis. So these people think that they're better
Speaker 21: than the average people. They think they're better than the
Speaker 21: average New Yorker. They think they're smarter than we are.
Speaker 4: And it would be.
Speaker 21: There would be nothing more satisfying than to see the
Speaker 21: elite of the establishment actually pay for the crimes that
Speaker 21: they committed.
Speaker 2: Well, you called it on the politics.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to press you to call it on
Speaker 1: where you think that intersects with this investigation that we're
Speaker 1: just learning about tonight.
Speaker 2: Do you think ultimately he.
Speaker 1: Gets charged because in a place like New York, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen the jurors there, unfortunately during the very unfair
Speaker 1: prosecution of President Trump, they are as leftists as it gets.
Speaker 1: Would any prosecutor look at this and say, well, you know,
Speaker 1: in DC where the liard, or even in New York
Speaker 1: where he lives, no matter where you did it, you
Speaker 1: get a very left wing jury pool, and it might
Speaker 1: be better to not proceed on it.
Speaker 21: Well, look, I don't know if he'll be charged.
Speaker 4: I hope he is.
Speaker 21: If he is charged, he'll be found innocent, you know,
Speaker 21: or some kind of aggressive slap on the wrist that
Speaker 21: this will this will end up going away. Do I
Speaker 21: think he'll like serve time for perjury for lying to Congress?
Speaker 21: Absolutely not, because, like you said, you're gonna get You're
Speaker 21: gonna get a DC Jerry, You're gonna get a New
Speaker 21: York jury that is either going to end up incredibly
Speaker 21: incredibly divided into a hung jury where they dismissed the case,
Speaker 21: or you know, a grand jury doesn't indicte him at all.
Speaker 21: But I would hope he is at least charged, showing
Speaker 21: that the DOJ is at least attempting to hold some
Speaker 21: people accountable for some of the crimes they committed during
Speaker 21: I don't know, one of the biggest political scandals of
Speaker 21: my lifetime.
Speaker 1: I am glad they are looking at it, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if the right decision is to charge here,
Speaker 1: because prosecutors do have to evaluate the likelihood of success
Speaker 1: and obtaining a conviction. But we would have never had
Speaker 1: this had Donald Trump not been elected. If you had
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's team in there, they would be giving awards
Speaker 1: to the COVID tyrants. Instead, they're getting the subpoenas and
Speaker 1: the investigations that they so richly deserve. Kevin Smith, the
Speaker 1: founder of Loud Majority Live, thanks so much for joining
Speaker 1: the program as always, and coming up, We've got a
Speaker 1: couple stories with a connection to Florida. My fellow Florida man,
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio was in the United States Senate yesterday and
Speaker 1: he dealt with Senator Chris van Holland, who still wants
Speaker 1: to re import MS thirteen members from El Salvador. That
Speaker 1: and we got a response from the Florida Attorney General
Speaker 1: regarding our ongoing coverage of the Hope of Florida scandal.
Speaker 2: All that after quick break.
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Speaker 1: Jerry State Marco Rubio, he got confirmed with every Senate vote.
Speaker 1: Now he's doing a lot of work in the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: He's the Secretary of State, the National Security Advisor, the
Speaker 1: head of USAID, and.
Speaker 2: Actually also the National Archivist.
Speaker 1: He testified before the US Senate yesterday and got into
Speaker 1: a testy exchange with Maryland Senator Chris van Holland. Senator
Speaker 1: Van Holland thinks we don't send enough of your money
Speaker 1: to foreign countries.
Speaker 22: And you used to speak with conviction about the importance
Speaker 22: of foreign aid as a tool to advance American values
Speaker 22: and interests. Then you stood by while Elon Musk took
Speaker 22: a chainsaw to USAID and other assistance programs.
Speaker 1: Senator Van Holland wants you to believe that American hegemony
Speaker 1: itself hangs by a thread unless we fund gay pride
Speaker 1: parades in Prague or transsexual comic books in Peru. Secretary
Speaker 1: of Rubio didn't give an inch given his work on USAID,
Speaker 1: and he offered this in response.
Speaker 17: I don't regret cutting ten million dollars for mail circumcisions
Speaker 17: in Mozambique. I don't know how that makes a stronger
Speaker 17: and more prosperous as a nation. I read, don't rede
Speaker 17: goo social support services.
Speaker 4: I raised.
Speaker 17: They response or here we spent two hundred and twenty
Speaker 17: seven thousand dollars for Bigcat's YouTube channel From USAID, we
Speaker 17: spent fourteen million dollars for social cohesion in Mali, whatever
Speaker 17: the hell that means, so I can go on and up.
Speaker 17: In the case of El Salvador, absolutely absolutely we deported
Speaker 17: gang members, gang members, including the one that you had
Speaker 17: a margarita with.
Speaker 1: But this wasn't just a call for more international slush
Speaker 1: funds for Woketopians. At issue was the deportation of Kilmar
Speaker 1: Abrego Garcia to El Salvador. You'll recall Garcia is an
Speaker 1: illegal alien from l Salvador. A trial judge and an
Speaker 1: appellate court found him associated with the EMA's thirteen gang,
Speaker 1: and the State of Tennessee released this video of Garcia
Speaker 1: looking like he's literally human trafficking.
Speaker 8: Hey, you've got a bunch of paper here, now's you? Yes?
Speaker 4: They probably with my license right now? He say, spirit
Speaker 4: right is suspended?
Speaker 18: Its spended?
Speaker 19: Does anybody else have a driver's ascense license?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 13: He's halling these people for money, is what he's doing.
Speaker 2: There's eight people in there.
Speaker 8: I don't know that an extra seats, so.
Speaker 10: He's getting paid.
Speaker 16: All these sus are probably to Maryland.
Speaker 1: Not many people had ever heard of Senator Van Holland
Speaker 1: until he decided to make the reimportation of this gang
Speaker 1: member has caused ajure. But when the number one thing
Speaker 1: you're known for is trying to bring gang members back
Speaker 1: into the country, you've.
Speaker 16: Got to go all in.
Speaker 2: And that's what we saw on display in the Senate.
Speaker 17: And that guy is a human trafficker, and that guy
Speaker 17: is a gang banger, and that and the evidence is
Speaker 17: going to be clear in the days that.
Speaker 8: Rubio has the floor.
Speaker 7: Chairman, he can't make unsubstantiated Senator like that, Secretary, Rubio
Speaker 7: has the floor. You, Peddrick Rubio should take that testimony
Speaker 7: the federal senator, United States, because he hasn't done it
Speaker 7: under oath.
Speaker 17: And if you tell me that you're coming to the
Speaker 17: United States to lead campus crusades, to take over libraries
Speaker 17: and burn down try to burn down buildings and acts
Speaker 17: of violence, we're not going to get that. What miss did,
Speaker 17: We're not going to give you did do that, Secretary,
Speaker 17: And every single one of these smoke. These kids pay
Speaker 17: money to go to school and they have to walk
Speaker 17: right to the tour here.
Speaker 22: Papers disrupting the foreign policy tonight.
Speaker 16: I want to do more.
Speaker 17: I hope we can find more if all the people
Speaker 17: that were arrested at that riot at that campus, because
Speaker 17: if any of them have a visa. We're gonna revi.
Speaker 22: I feel so much safe right, lock up people like
Speaker 22: Miss osterk.
Speaker 1: Miss Secretary looks like Secretary Rubio had an extra dose
Speaker 1: of his Cuban coffee this morning, more like the Cuban missile.
Speaker 1: It's just so hard to take Senator van Holland seriously
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 2: Consider this. Last Congress.
Speaker 1: Van Holland was the co sponsor of the Lake and
Speaker 1: Riley Act. This Congress, he voted against it. It's like
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. And if the Modern Democratic Party stands
Speaker 1: for men and women's sports, high taxes, low tee and
Speaker 1: moving kilmar Abrego Garcia into your neighborhood, it's really not
Speaker 1: carrying a winning message. Before we go tonight, I've got
Speaker 1: an update on Hope Florida, the charity closely aligned with
Speaker 1: Casey DeSantis that The Tampa Bay Times is reported is
Speaker 1: understated criminal investigation. Last night, State Representati Van Porus called
Speaker 1: for Florida Attorney General James Uthmeyer to cooperate with prosecutors
Speaker 1: during that criminal investigation. You believe the Attorney general should
Speaker 1: fully cooperate with the state attorney's investigation into this matter.
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
Speaker 23: Matt I mean, if the Attorney General has nothing to hide,
Speaker 23: he should be the first one jumping at this opportunity
Speaker 23: to make sure that there is no sort of question
Speaker 23: about the legalities of what went on with Hope, Florida.
Speaker 1: We received a response from a spokesperson from Attorney General Uthmeyer.
Speaker 1: It reads quote, it's interesting that the former congressman, who
Speaker 1: always claims to be a victim of law fair now
Speaker 1: seems to be deploying lawfair to boost ratings. From the
Speaker 1: chair of the Florida Democrat Party is pushing the sham inquiry.
Speaker 1: That tells you all you need to know. So let's
Speaker 1: discuss this for a moment, Like if the governor of
Speaker 1: Florida committed a murder, he could be both guilty and
Speaker 1: criticized by Democrats at the same time, and not for nothing.
Speaker 1: But it's been the Republican left investigation of Chairman alex
Speaker 1: and Droddi that spurred the ongoing criminal investigation of this transaction.
Speaker 1: It's not something that emerged from the political left. It
Speaker 1: came out of the Republican controlled legislature. And the reason
Speaker 1: this is happening is because there was a pack that
Speaker 1: Uthmeyer ran that was enriched the tune of ten million dollars,
Speaker 1: and nobody could explain where the money came from except
Speaker 1: a lawsuit that should have directed that money. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: a claim that should have directed that money into the
Speaker 1: medicaid program. Moreover, like, how are we on this show
Speaker 1: deploying lawfair when suit anybody? Actually, it was allies of
Speaker 1: Governor DeSantis who called One American News and threatened to
Speaker 1: sue us. Verry Karen of them, we see you, Brian Griffin.
Speaker 1: Team Desanta should be reminded that truth is a defense
Speaker 1: in any defamation action. We've welcomed to Governor de Santa's
Speaker 1: first lady, Casey DeSantis, and Attorney General Uthmeyer on our show.
Speaker 1: They have not accepted our invitations. But lawfair, I'm a
Speaker 1: television talk show host, not a prosecutor. It's actually Attorney
Speaker 1: General Uthmeyer, who is the only prosecutor in this story
Speaker 1: other than the prosecutors that might be investigating mister Uthmeyer,
Speaker 1: which is the entire point of our question. We asked
Speaker 1: the Attorney General explicitly whether he had been contacted by
Speaker 1: law enforcement in the ongoing investigation.
Speaker 2: He could have said no, he could have given a
Speaker 2: fulsome response.
Speaker 1: Instead, he asked us to read his tweets, which we did,
Speaker 1: and this one stuck out. Just like President Trump, Conservatives
Speaker 1: like James Uthmeyer won't be intimidated.
Speaker 2: By political lawfair.
Speaker 1: First of all, that definitely sounds like someone who knows
Speaker 1: that their boss is under investigation, like tell me you're
Speaker 1: under investigation without telling me you're under investigation. Second, the
Speaker 1: nerve Attorney General Uthmeyer and his team should keep Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's name out of their mouths. James Uthmeyer was the
Speaker 1: campaign manager in the campaign to defeat Trump. James Uthmeyer
Speaker 1: was literally rooting for the Lawfair against Trump while I
Speaker 1: was standing with him in a dingy New York criminal courtroom,
Speaker 1: while Mago was fighting against law there and for Trump.
Speaker 2: This is what James Uthmeyer was saying.
Speaker 24: We need a new leader for the party, somebody that's
Speaker 24: approven winner, and that person is Ron DeSantis. I think
Speaker 24: last night it teed it up perfectly. We need somebody
Speaker 24: that delivers results, and that's just not the former president anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh but now he and Trump are somehow in common
Speaker 1: cause to peas in a pod. Attorney General Uthmeyer posted
Speaker 1: this on x about President Trump Day one. Trump doesn't
Speaker 1: know whether a man can become a woman. Actually, I
Speaker 1: think the real issue here is whether or not a
Speaker 1: ten million dollar check can become a feature of James
Speaker 1: Uthmier's political committee. Attorney General Uthmeyer, if you are indeed
Speaker 1: under investigation, which your own spokesperson's tweets seem to indicate,
Speaker 1: it isn't because you're conservative.
Speaker 2: It isn't because you're pro Trump.
Speaker 1: The people who started investigating you are also conservative Republicans.
Speaker 1: It's because ten million dollars that was supposed to go
Speaker 1: to Florida's medicaid program made it into your political committee.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's criminal or not.
Speaker 1: I know it shouldn't happen, and that your conduct was
Speaker 1: unfitting of someone in public service, and I know that
Speaker 1: you know better than to defend.
Speaker 2: A grift like this for political gain.
Speaker 1: We continue to invite Attorney General Uthmeier on the program
Speaker 1: to offer an explanation. He has always declined, and he's
Speaker 1: always welcome because I have like ten million questions for him.
Speaker 2: That's all the time we have.
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