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Speaker 1: Coach Wit and of course that's big news is Kyle
Speaker 1: Whittingham will be back on the sideline. The number, by
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Speaker 1: four o'clock hour with a little more college football. Our
Speaker 1: next guest played college football, coach college football, and for
Speaker 1: now he's in the media, but that usually means he
Speaker 1: just is going to get back into coaching. My players
Speaker 1: would welcome in Mike Samford Junior on a Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Mike, how are you, sir?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great it's great to be on your program,
Speaker 3: your very in these parts. I listened to the entirety
Speaker 3: of the Trevor Riley interview and it was like one
Speaker 3: of my favorite listens of all time. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of you to say, that's called just
Speaker 1: let Trevor do the Trevor thing. I take no credit there.
Speaker 1: I just welcomed him in and then let him run.
Speaker 1: And that was quite a day. But Mike, let's get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit. Let's talk about your background.
Speaker 1: You were a player, you were a coach, and then
Speaker 1: I want to learn a little bit more about what
Speaker 1: you're doing these days.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I played at Boise State, son of a coach.
Speaker 3: My dad was the offensive coordinator at the University of Utah.
Speaker 3: So we've cross paths a few times with the Great
Speaker 3: State of Utah. My dad there three and o four ted,
Speaker 3: you know, he was obviously Kyle Whittingham was the decordinator,
Speaker 3: my dad was the offensive coordinator, and then Herban Meyer
Speaker 3: head coach, Dan Mullen the quarterback coach. So a lot
Speaker 3: of really really cool times. I was finishing up at
Speaker 3: that time at Boise State in two thousand and four,
Speaker 3: and the wild thing is that we were both undefeated
Speaker 3: regular season and we were competing for the non BCS
Speaker 3: school getting a bull invite in the PCs, and it
Speaker 3: went to my dad's team. So my teammates were pissed
Speaker 3: at me at Boise State. But yeah, so I got it,
Speaker 3: you know, went into coaching eighteen years of it, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of traverse the country, went to Stanford, I was
Speaker 3: at U and LB my dad was a coach there,
Speaker 3: and then you know, I was at Boise State. Is
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinated last Pista Bowl at Boise State played
Speaker 3: in ten years ago, and Notre Dame for a couple
Speaker 3: of years and now I'm in Denver. My last coaching
Speaker 3: job was CU before coach Prime got here. I was
Speaker 3: the interim head coach and offensive coordinator before that. And
Speaker 3: I decided to get into the to the talking head
Speaker 3: space and I actually am having a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you're having a lot of fun, you know.
Speaker 1: I've I've definitely worked with a lot of former coaches
Speaker 1: and former players and some don't love the media space.
Speaker 1: Some take to it as well. And obviously we're very
Speaker 1: familiar with your father and I was a student at
Speaker 1: the University of Utah in the late nineties, and you
Speaker 1: know we're their broadcast partner now, so I do want
Speaker 1: to take some space with a bright guy like you
Speaker 1: the knows college football to talk about Kyle Whittingham returning
Speaker 1: now for his twenty first season, and Mike, he may
Speaker 1: have heard there were a lot of speculation about what
Speaker 1: he was going to do. He does have a couple
Speaker 1: of years left on his contract, and when we didn't
Speaker 1: hear an announcement right after the end of the season,
Speaker 1: I just surmised that.
Speaker 2: He would be back, and he is back.
Speaker 1: So, as somebody that knows the coaching game and knows
Speaker 1: Utah football, what's your reaction to coach Wick coming back
Speaker 1: for year twenty one.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you this. I was at to see
Speaker 3: you Utah game, and you know I first thought that
Speaker 3: this was an outlier year for Kyle Whittingham in Utah.
Speaker 3: Clearly there were a lot of things going on Cam Rising,
Speaker 3: just the ongoing saga of his health and that dude
Speaker 3: is a great player. By the way, my last game
Speaker 3: coaching college football was twenty twenty two, in the final
Speaker 3: game of the season against Cam Rising. A healthy Cam
Speaker 3: Rising in Utah. And I'll say this, like I coached
Speaker 3: against Kyle Whittingham. I'll shoot, I was the head coach
Speaker 3: on the opposite sideline just two years ago. He's one
Speaker 3: of the greatest to ever do it, not just in
Speaker 3: you know, Utah history, but Franklin College football history. And
Speaker 3: so yeah, I didn't think there was any chance that
Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham wouldn't be back in twenty twenty five. I
Speaker 3: didn't even kind of like any any rumors that were
Speaker 3: going around. I just laughed at him to be candid,
Speaker 3: because this was an outlier year and Utah has always
Speaker 3: cornered to the market on unbelievable defensive play, great special
Speaker 3: teams play, and then really good offensive line physicality on
Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball. So I just see
Speaker 3: that this program is going to be back on track
Speaker 3: next year. And let's call it spade a spade. The
Speaker 3: Big Twelve Conference is a conference that if you quit
Speaker 3: yourself well, you can go from the bottom to the
Speaker 3: top in about two point five seconds. And that's what
Speaker 3: I think Utah will do next year.
Speaker 1: So you reference Cameron Rising, and by all reports, he
Speaker 1: will not be back. It would have been his eighth
Speaker 1: year and at one point that seemed preposterous, and now
Speaker 1: that's probably going to be a little bit of a
Speaker 1: common theme with the ability to stick around and make
Speaker 1: money in a way that players couldn't back when you
Speaker 1: were playing college football. Isaac Wilson hits the transfer portal,
Speaker 1: Sam Hewart hits the transfer portal, as does Brandon Rose.
Speaker 1: So there are no quarterbacks on the roster to speak of.
Speaker 1: How in your experience, how realistic is it for a
Speaker 1: program like Utah to be able to go to the
Speaker 1: transfer portal? And you know, there's conversation about Devin dan
Speaker 1: Pierre because he played quarterback in New Mexico under Jason Beck,
Speaker 1: who is now the offensive coordinator. But there are a
Speaker 1: lot of schools that are interested in Devin. So for
Speaker 1: people around here who are hoping what you just said
Speaker 1: is true, and that is this year was a moment
Speaker 1: in time and not the new normal, how realistic is
Speaker 1: it for Utah to go hit that transfer portal and
Speaker 1: find somebody under center that can kind of settle the ship.
Speaker 3: It's very realistic. And one thing I'll tell you is
Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham hit an absolute home run in his hire
Speaker 3: at offensive coordinator Jason Beck's a guy that I'm a
Speaker 3: former offenseve coordinator. I've called plays and I've had some
Speaker 3: really good years, like a Fiesta Bowl win at Boise
Speaker 3: State and you know, Fiesta Bowl appearance in twenty fifteen
Speaker 3: with Notre Dame. And I've had some tough years, but
Speaker 3: I know good coaches schematically when I see him. And
Speaker 3: this year I was on the broadcast here at CSU
Speaker 3: in Colorado. I was on the TV broadcast of Colorado
Speaker 3: State versus New Mexico. So I did a bunch of research,
Speaker 3: watched a lot of film ahead of that matchup, and
Speaker 3: there's I don't think there's anybody in college football at
Speaker 3: the offense coordinator position that's doing a better job of
Speaker 3: of like simple us difficult them, which means it's it's
Speaker 3: ingestable in this modern era of you know, the roster
Speaker 3: turnover and having to have have concepts and schemes that
Speaker 3: are not they don't take two three years to be
Speaker 3: able to play in them. But yet there's enough I
Speaker 3: would call it window dressing and French pastry on top
Speaker 3: of shifts and motions and trick plays and you know,
Speaker 3: very unique running schemes that Jason Beck brings to the
Speaker 3: table that I think they that he is the right guy,
Speaker 3: and I saw I'm just gonna be candidate. I saw
Speaker 3: some of the early candidates that we're going to be
Speaker 3: considered for offensive coordinator. They come from an air rate
Speaker 3: background that would not have been a great fit to
Speaker 3: the identity of Utah's football programs. Utah is a physical
Speaker 3: team that wants to run the football, has really crafty
Speaker 3: quarterback play. And I'm gonna tell you the best candidate
Speaker 3: out there is Devin Dampier and I have no connection
Speaker 3: to him. Devin Dampier. I've been standing up for this
Speaker 3: guy on social media. I watched this guy play about
Speaker 3: seven games this year and he is the next camp Ward.
Speaker 3: But I think he's more more coachable, more malleable in
Speaker 3: terms of making great decisions with the football. So if
Speaker 3: you're a Utah you know Donor, I would pony up
Speaker 3: with this player and be very excited about getting him
Speaker 3: because I think he's one of the most exciting returning
Speaker 3: players in college football for the twenty five season.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is lofty praise and from somebody like you,
Speaker 1: that means a lot. So let me follow up there,
Speaker 1: because what I'm reading is there are SEC programs interested
Speaker 1: in Devon. There are big ten programs interested in Devon.
Speaker 1: So you know, obviously your your words about Jason. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure music to a lot of people's ears around here.
Speaker 1: Do you think Utah could potentially have the inside track
Speaker 1: because they have his former offensive coordinator or like everything
Speaker 1: else in life, Mike, is this coming down to dollars
Speaker 1: and cents?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's gonna be the reality of it.
Speaker 3: But also I think Devin dan Pier is gonna be
Speaker 3: a player that wants to not only maximize the dollar figure,
Speaker 3: but also maximize the performance. And when you've played in
Speaker 3: a system and you have that familiarity within the system,
Speaker 3: that means a lot. I mean, look at cam Ward
Speaker 3: and how he got to Washington State. That was his
Speaker 3: his connection to that to the program at Incarnate Word.
Speaker 3: That's how he ended up there as a coach that
Speaker 3: went to Washington State and brought his quarterback. So this
Speaker 3: is this is very common now in college football. It's
Speaker 3: almost like coordinators sometimes are hired just I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: say solely for the purpose of but largely for the
Speaker 3: purpose of bringing a quarterback. And Western Kentucky started that
Speaker 3: after I was let go there. I was the head
Speaker 3: coach there in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, ninth. Yeah, those
Speaker 3: two years. And right after that it was the Bailey
Speaker 3: Zappi and and the offensive coordinator Zach Kittley came over
Speaker 3: from Houston Baptist and they won ten games that year.
Speaker 3: It's they're only a really good year. So everybody's everybody's
Speaker 3: coaching and making decisions. And I hate to say it,
Speaker 3: and it's a different er. It's a lot different than
Speaker 3: my dad coached in. But you're coaching for that next year.
Speaker 3: That's it, and then you got to do it again
Speaker 3: in the following year, and you got to do it
Speaker 3: again the next year. That's just the reality of college football.
Speaker 3: But the higher in and of itself, I think makes
Speaker 3: a lot of sense. Devin Dampier is a fantastic player,
Speaker 3: and he should he should test the market. But I
Speaker 3: think that having an opportunity to be highly successful in
Speaker 3: a in a story program like Utah that has, you know,
Speaker 3: some some geographical geographical connections to his background of being
Speaker 3: an Arizona kid and then playing his first several years
Speaker 3: at New Mexico, I mean that stuff does matter, would.
Speaker 1: Be remissed, Mike if I didn't simply just ask your
Speaker 1: opinion on where we're at with the landscape of college football,
Speaker 1: sport that we all love and a sport that somebody
Speaker 1: like you has made a living in, and your family
Speaker 1: certainly probably owes a lot to the game, and you
Speaker 1: have given a lot back as well. But it's a
Speaker 1: different day and age with the things that we all
Speaker 1: talk about, we all know about, and I am of
Speaker 1: the opinion that we are high speed ahead to another
Speaker 1: massive landscape shift, and hopefully this time it's just the
Speaker 1: final one and we land in whatever the new normal
Speaker 1: of college football is. But transfer portal, nil players going,
Speaker 1: players coming, money is changing hands. Are you a fan
Speaker 1: of where we're at with this game? Are you concerned
Speaker 1: about the future.
Speaker 2: We'd love to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 3: I think the first year that I had out of
Speaker 3: college football, which was following the twenty two seasons, so
Speaker 3: last season twenty twenty three, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 3: was watching what was happening with the team that I
Speaker 3: just coached in Boulder, and you know, I think seventy
Speaker 3: some odd players on that roster not invited back to
Speaker 3: the team, and I I would say I was bitter,
Speaker 3: you know, I was bitter about the state of college football.
Speaker 3: But I'll say this is as much as I don't
Speaker 3: love every aspect of the current landscape, you know, and
Speaker 3: some of it is is that players are human capital.
Speaker 3: That's a reality like that you can get rid of
Speaker 3: them just as fasts. You'll pay them and vice versa.
Speaker 3: I think that you can't fight city Hall because the
Speaker 3: product is still really good. I mean, we all can
Speaker 3: complain about it, and it can be you know, the
Speaker 3: old man yelling at the clouds if we want to,
Speaker 3: But the reality is we all tune in and watch
Speaker 3: every single one of those college football playoff games. It's
Speaker 3: coming up. I promise you that it's a great product.
Speaker 3: It's never going to be a bad product. And so
Speaker 3: you know, in the event that like I ever got
Speaker 3: back into it, I mean, you just have to embrace
Speaker 3: the new normal, find your niche, find your space, and
Speaker 3: just excel in it and stay in your lane. And
Speaker 3: you know, the programs to me that are winning, they
Speaker 3: have a quarterback. They go out and they get the
Speaker 3: right quarterback, and then they build their offensive line and
Speaker 3: defensive lines organically through high school recruitment and more long
Speaker 3: term solutions within the portal, because I don't believe he
Speaker 3: can build the the O lines and the D lines
Speaker 3: immediately within just one year.
Speaker 1: You might be the best person for me, you know,
Speaker 1: for me to ask the following question, Mike, because you
Speaker 1: have coaching ties to both Colorado and Boise State.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I do. Who wins the Heisman and why.
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter's gonna win the Heisman? He's gonna win the Heisman,
Speaker 3: and I think it's because he is a very transcendent
Speaker 3: player by virtue of what he's done. And anybody who
Speaker 3: points to Champ Bailey and say those guys were spot
Speaker 3: players on offense, this dude's like running fifty eight routes
Speaker 3: a game and doing it on the defensive side of
Speaker 3: the ball. He's phenomenal. I've watched him in person now
Speaker 3: four times and I'm amazed every time I see it.
Speaker 3: And it's the ball skills for me, on both sides
Speaker 3: of the ball. I think he has justin Jefferson level
Speaker 3: of ball skills. Obviously a short area, you know, changing direction.
Speaker 3: Everything is elite, and I'm voting for Ashton Gent there's
Speaker 3: a bias there. I'm at Boise State alum. I coached
Speaker 3: at Boise State. I love the player. I think he
Speaker 3: is so important to that team. But I think it's
Speaker 3: just an unfortunate year that you're ahead with one of
Speaker 3: the most unique players in the history of the game.
Speaker 2: Man. He has been so fun to watch. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what.
Speaker 1: And you know, Boise finds themselves with a buy in
Speaker 1: the first round as the three seed. Well, they're going
Speaker 1: to take on the winner of Penn State. Smu what
Speaker 1: and again, you're an alum. We understand your ties to
Speaker 1: the institution. And of course, a potential second round matchup
Speaker 1: with Penn State, according to early books, would be a
Speaker 1: heavy you know, spread in the favor of the Nitny Lions.
Speaker 1: But yeah, is Boise good enough to make this interesting?
Speaker 2: In your opinion? Can they advance maybe a round or
Speaker 2: two and maybe even beyond.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people have pointy two Boise
Speaker 3: State in the last five six weeks have not looked
Speaker 3: like they're not passing the eye test of a team
Speaker 3: that could compete with us a Penn State. I would actually, yeah,
Speaker 3: I followed Boise State closely. I do a bunch of
Speaker 3: media work with Bronco Nation News out of Boise I
Speaker 3: have a weekly show on Wednesday nights on social media
Speaker 3: and all the things. And I've watched this team really
Speaker 3: endure about eight weeks, nine weeks of having offensive linemen
Speaker 3: and I'm talking three starters out. The last game against
Speaker 3: UNLB was the first time they've had all five starters
Speaker 3: that are really really good starters playing together since week
Speaker 3: two of the season. And so I think that Boise
Speaker 3: State is actually playing their best football in the very
Speaker 3: last week of the season. And I know that this
Speaker 3: is a team that is senior and junior a lot
Speaker 3: of experience, and I believe that Boise State can do
Speaker 3: what it's always done. And all you got look to
Speaker 3: is the last time Boys to State was really healthy,
Speaker 3: they took the number one team in the country, Oregon,
Speaker 3: to the very brink of that game, and really should
Speaker 3: have won that game. I think that was a missed
Speaker 3: opportunity for Boys to State. And Oregon looks to be
Speaker 3: the best team by far right now, the cleanest team
Speaker 3: in college football. So I would give them a chance.
Speaker 3: Certainly gets Penn State, and I shoot, I think I
Speaker 3: think they'd be I think they beat SMU, I think
Speaker 3: they're a better football team.
Speaker 1: So out of the big twelve, we find ourselves of
Speaker 1: Arizona State, which nobody saw coming. They were picked to
Speaker 1: finish close to last, and some outlets picked them to
Speaker 1: finish last. I wonder your impressions of what Kenny Dillingham
Speaker 1: did this year with a massive turnaround really quickly, and
Speaker 1: your thoughts on what they could do in this bracket
Speaker 1: as they find themselves with the first round by and
Speaker 1: a four seed to face the winner of Clemson in Texas.
Speaker 3: Well. Kenny Dillingham comes from, you know, really the Dan Lanning,
Speaker 3: Mario crystobaal which really is ultimately saving, and Kirby smart
Speaker 3: Tree and these of the guys that I think really
Speaker 3: have the upper hand in college football right now in
Speaker 3: terms of roster, build the nil, the portal, how you
Speaker 3: do it, not just the money, but how you do
Speaker 3: it getting the right guys. And Kenny Dillingham has really
Speaker 3: really hit on a lot of players, and it started
Speaker 3: with Sam Levitt. His quarterback is playing great ball. He's
Speaker 3: fun to watch, he's an athlete, he can extend plays.
Speaker 3: I think that he's playing as good as football towards
Speaker 3: the tail end of the season as any quarterback in
Speaker 3: the league. You know, and then Camp Scataboo's obviously, he's
Speaker 3: a one man wrecking crew, a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 3: I just know this firsthand from Arizona State, my director
Speaker 3: of football operations at Colorado, Ryan McGinnis. He got hired
Speaker 3: by coach Dillingham, and he also took one of my
Speaker 3: best players after we you know, I got fired, But
Speaker 3: it was Jordan Tyson, the wide receiver who unfortunately will
Speaker 3: be missing the remainder of this season, but I think
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a top three receiver in college football.
Speaker 3: I can speak to it that the Kenny Dillingham has
Speaker 3: selected the right guys based off those two guys, because
Speaker 3: those dudes were two of my absolute favorites when I
Speaker 3: was at to you, I.
Speaker 1: Haven't asked you about the season BYU had, and you know,
Speaker 1: ultimately it's funny, Mike, in a way. Both Utah and
Speaker 1: BUYU are two local schools blew it. Utah was the
Speaker 1: favorite of the start, could not get it done. Utah
Speaker 1: BYU installed themselves, is the favorite after nine games and stumbled,
Speaker 1: losing two of three. Their reward is a fun bowl game.
Speaker 1: It's the Alamo Bowl against your former school of Colorado.
Speaker 1: But what do you make of what Kilani and company
Speaker 1: were able to do this season year two in the
Speaker 1: Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: Well, in full candor spence, I got my brother in law,
Speaker 3: so my wife's younger brother is working on that football
Speaker 3: staff there. So I've been watching the Cubes very closely.
Speaker 3: Nice blood is thicker than water, so I've been I've
Speaker 3: been rooting for the Coubes all year, certainly because of
Speaker 3: the time my brother in law, Matt Mitchell, works with
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. He's kind of Aaron Rodericks, a Rod's right
Speaker 3: hand man, and he does an awesome job. He was
Speaker 3: my right hand man when I was the offensive coordinator
Speaker 3: at Notre Dame and then also Western Kentucky. Who is
Speaker 3: my quarterback coach. I love, uh, I love what what
Speaker 3: this team did. And let's just call a spade a
Speaker 3: spade before the year, this is a year where you're
Speaker 3: coaching for your job, you know, I mean it felt
Speaker 3: like that to me. And you start the season the
Speaker 3: way you did. Obviously the end of it was extremely disappointing,
Speaker 3: but frankly, you faced a couple of teams that were
Speaker 3: scorching hot at the end of the year between Kansas,
Speaker 3: who I believe really should have been in the conference championship. Uh,
Speaker 3: if they just found their way earlier in the year
Speaker 3: they were a good football team. And then Arizona State
Speaker 3: and and you you had a chance to win both
Speaker 3: those games. Some fluky plays certainly happened against Kansas with
Speaker 3: the with the muffed uh you know, quarterback squid punt. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there was. There was a lot of unique, unique dynamics
Speaker 3: this year, and b what you won a lot of
Speaker 3: games in very dramatic fashion. You can certainly talk about
Speaker 3: the Utah game, you know, a lot of different opinions
Speaker 3: on that, on that pass interference or holding call. But
Speaker 3: I'm just really proud of the work that the Kilani
Speaker 3: has done. I thought he made a great hire in
Speaker 3: his offensive line coach TJ. Woods, and that run game
Speaker 3: has got better. Jake Retstloff, I believe is gonna be
Speaker 3: one of the better quarterbacks entering the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 3: And so I'm excited about that Bowl game. I think
Speaker 3: there's probably, if I'm gonna be honest, I'm on the
Speaker 3: airwaves here in Denver, there's a lot more excitement from
Speaker 3: the BYU side for that bowl game than there probably
Speaker 3: are from the media types and the fan types here
Speaker 3: in Colorado. I know coach Prime is doing an unbelievable
Speaker 3: job of making sure his stars playing that game, but
Speaker 3: it feels a little bit like nothing to win and
Speaker 3: everything to lose type of a game for CU.
Speaker 2: All right, this is the most random. Wasn't planning on
Speaker 2: doing this, but I think, what is your sister's name, Lindsey.
Speaker 1: I think I met her at she was having dinner
Speaker 1: in Park City, like a few weeks back, and I
Speaker 1: was there at a wedding and she was having dinner
Speaker 1: with an old friend of mine. Nobody cares about this,
Speaker 1: but like, this is how my mind works.
Speaker 2: As you reference that.
Speaker 1: I went over and said hello, and she introduced me
Speaker 1: to her husband coaching at BYU, and she said, my
Speaker 1: dad is Mike Sanford. I'm like, oh, okay, of course
Speaker 1: I know who your father is, so nobody gives a rip.
Speaker 2: Anecdotally, I think I met your sister just a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago.
Speaker 3: So that was actually my sister in law okay, married
Speaker 3: to and if he was there, that was her husband
Speaker 3: is Matt, that's my wife's brother. I think it was
Speaker 3: like either it was a bye week for the dudes,
Speaker 3: and I think my brother in law and I've been
Speaker 3: in coaching a long time and I've tried to teach him. Well, he's,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of a younger brother to me in
Speaker 3: a sense. You got to take care of the wives
Speaker 3: during bye week, and so he took her up to
Speaker 3: Park City and I think they had a nice night
Speaker 3: on the town. I actually remember them being out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, small world, man, Hey, real quick for
Speaker 1: segul louse?
Speaker 2: Who wins the thing?
Speaker 1: Who do you think the best team in the country
Speaker 1: isn't most set up to win the title?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I gotta go with the homersm I'm
Speaker 3: going with my boys. He skate Broncos.
Speaker 2: There you go the world.
Speaker 3: You know, I do think that they have a chance
Speaker 3: to make some noise in the tournament. And that's not
Speaker 3: just lip service, but if I were to just put
Speaker 3: a betting favorite on it, in terms of what I've watched,
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of flat football teams this year,
Speaker 3: more so than any other year. The least flat football
Speaker 3: team right now is, without question, Oregon.
Speaker 2: To me, good stuff, Well, Mike, I appreciate your time. Man.
Speaker 2: Glad you're on this side of the business. It means
Speaker 2: we're just going to.
Speaker 1: Bother you so you can come on the show a lot.
Speaker 1: I hope you understand that. Okay, Yeah, be careful.
Speaker 3: I say yes to everything. That's one thing that my
Speaker 3: wife tells me all the time. You got to say
Speaker 3: no to somebody. I'm like, no. I love being on
Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun, well.
Speaker 2: Good stuff, buddy. I appreciate it. Enjoy the enjoy the games.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I appreciate this.
Speaker 2: Nice all right.
Speaker 1: Mike Sanford junior, longtime college football head coach, played a
Speaker 1: little college football himself. Himself, I should say at Boise
Speaker 1: State on Twitter at coach Samford.
Speaker 2: Two youth fans will remember his pop, Mike Sandford, who.
Speaker 1: Was the offensive coordinator during the Urban Meyer years where
Speaker 1: Utah football obviously had a very very exciting stint couple
Speaker 1: of years here. Took dead coaching job at UNLV, ended
Speaker 1: up at Utah State for a minute, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: appreciate Mike's time.