WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.599 The following presentation is Al Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:28.920 When you look Me on the Sky? Do you feel? 3 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:32.600 The poll the question why. 4 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:40.719 The stories told and left behind in shadows where the 5 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:48.119 truth we find? They built their tails on grafts and 6 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:50.840 lies on theories. 7 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:53.840 They stay their designed. 8 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:57.880 Put down here on this. 9 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:00.000 Welcome back to truth sears from around the world. 10 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:04.200 It's time for another edition of the flat Earth Files podcast. 11 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:06.840 I'm your host is always George Hobbs. Hope everybody had 12 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:11.079 a great weekend. We are recording on this Monday, March third, 13 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:14.480 twenty twenty five. A bit of a crispy day here 14 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:17.879 in the Mid Atlantic region, although we've had a nice 15 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:20.680 week so I'm not complaining, and spring is just around 16 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:23.519 the corner. Two quick reminders. If you'd like to join 17 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:27.879 us like Marcus today, the email address is fe files 18 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:31.280 guest at gmail dot com. Again it is fe files 19 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:35.760 guest at gmail dot com. And stop by the website 20 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:40.319 say hello. It is the flat earthfiles dot com. The 21 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:43.879 flat earthfiles dot com. Check out the forum, the chat room. 22 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:47.000 Much to do there the flat earth files dot com 23 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.799 and by the way, all the information the pobox, the websites, 24 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:54.439 the email addresses are all in the show notes, and 25 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.799 without any further ado, let's bring on today's guests. Joining 26 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.879 us from Ohio is Mark Mark. Good morning, sir, how 27 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:01.079 are you? 28 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:03.359 Good morning? 29 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:06.840 Thanks for taking the time to join us, and please 30 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.800 do take a few moments and introduce yourself to the audience. 31 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:16.719 My name is Mark. I'm thirty three years old. I 32 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:21.719 grew up in Florida, graduated in two thousand and nine. 33 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.360 Obviously around in the economy was horrible, so I ended 34 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.039 up in Ohio because my dad lived here. I have 35 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:35.800 four kids, so Riley, Manney, Addy and Miko. And I'm 36 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:38.800 just happy to be here today. Happy to be here today. 37 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.400 Yeah, and it's great to have you. And what would 38 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:44.000 you say, you know, living in growing up in Florida 39 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:48.240 living in Ohio, what are kind of the positives and 40 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:51.360 maybe not so positives living in both places with the 41 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.319 exception of the obvious, which I suppose would be the weather. 42 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:57.840 Yeah, I was gonna say, obviously the weather in Florida 43 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:01.719 is way better, but Ohio. I like where I live in. 44 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:06.479 Ohio is a rural, rural area and uh, I definitely 45 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:10.879 like that. So like the small town feel. The the 46 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:14.520 police are much nicer to you like they treat you 47 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:18.120 like a human being. Uh, not that I don't like cops, 48 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:21.879 but they're definitely way nicer in Ohio, at least where 49 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:28.639 I live. Uh. And like you said, probably obviously the 50 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:32.199 weather and just a small that small town field like 51 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:34.479 I like that, Like I just had to go back 52 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:38.240 there because my stepdad passed away, and like just that 53 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:43.960 the traffic is terrible. Uh, that's probably the main things 54 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.199 I like about Ohio compared to Florida. 55 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:50.919 What area were you in Florida, Jacksonville. Oh, yeah, that's 56 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:55.240 a that's a big town, big town, very busy. So 57 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:58.639 let's talk a little bit about your your journey to 58 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:02.240 the truth. You know, you grew up as a pastor's 59 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:05.919 kid and what effect, especially in your teen years, did 60 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:09.800 it have being a pastor's kids on your development as 61 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:10.919 you grew into a young man. 62 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:20.079 Well, you know, it's funny, like I when I when 63 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:24.480 I was younger growing up, like I always had like 64 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.959 like I wasn't sure if I ever believed in, you know, 65 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:36.199 the Bible or anything like that. Look like like you said, uh, 66 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:39.800 well before like you kind of had that rebelliousness in you. 67 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.240 But as far as coming to the truth, have always 68 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:48.839 been skeptical about everything, you know, uh, like nine eleven's 69 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:52.639 that's probably one of the first things that really got 70 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:53.600 me looking into stuff. 71 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.040 How did you feel when you you know you're going 72 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:59.600 down the first time? Because I remember the first drive 73 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.199 at home Mine was similar to the Bush family nine 74 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:06.839 to eleven, et cetera. How did it change you? What 75 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:09.319 do you recall finding out like the truth about nine 76 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:09.680 to eleven? 77 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:10.240 Number one? 78 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:15.639 For me, it's wow, the government really does lie, and 79 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.040 these are the people we're supposed to to trust and 80 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:21.879 depend on. Moreover, we pay a large sum of our 81 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:24.399 income to and then you know, you look even further 82 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:27.240 and you find out who's behind it. It's a very 83 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:31.519 deep and very evil rabbit hole. And for most people, 84 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:35.680 you know, once you get past the because for me, 85 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:39.079 and this is just me speaking here, when I first started, 86 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:41.439 really you know, a decade ago, you know, looking through 87 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:44.920 this stuff and connecting dots, it was like exciting, like 88 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.879 almost solving a crime. But then there's the next wave 89 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:53.160 of emotions, which is, wow, this is really purely evil. 90 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.720 Oh yeah, I know. It's like like they just let 91 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:02.720 all these people die and you know they lie. You know, 92 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:06.199 weapons of mass destruction. That's what they kept growing in 93 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:09.160 your ear. And it's just like there never was any 94 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:11.360 weapons of mass destruction. It's like they're willing to do 95 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:17.839 all this for what like money, you know, and like 96 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:21.800 with the Bush family and the Clintons, and they act 97 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:24.439 like their enemies, but they're all in it together. 98 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.480 Yeah, it's all theater for sure, and back then and 99 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:31.680 it still is today, and it's to me, it's it's 100 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:33.680 a shame. It's a little sad to see so many 101 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:36.519 people still buy the divide and conquer theory, you know, 102 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:37.959 team right or team left. 103 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:39.839 Right. 104 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:42.519 I couldn't agree with you more. 105 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:45.959 And obviously I think the next one which I usually 106 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:47.879 like to bring up, and you mentioned in your email 107 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:53.560 before we start getting into the flat earth stuff, was COVID. 108 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:58.519 You were, like many many people, very skeptical pardon me, 109 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:02.680 skeptical about the vat scene. Anybody who's done a little 110 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:05.439 bit of research. Even if you buy into the vaccine theory, 111 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:09.199 we're told that the average amount of time it takes 112 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:11.920 to come up with a quote safe vaccine is twelve 113 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.639 years and nine months later. Whoop, there it is, So 114 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:19.439 you know, kind of talk me through what COVID was 115 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:21.800 like how your family dealt with it. 116 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:26.120 Into the vaccines, oh the little. 117 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:28.079 I won't I won't lie to you. At first, when 118 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:31.959 they when they shut down like the NBA and basically 119 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:35.160 shut down everything, I was kind of like a little worried, 120 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.160 like whoa, It's just like like, how serious is this? 121 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:42.199 But then you know, uh, I got the one of 122 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:47.040 the like ten weeks off of word uh And after 123 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:48.959 the first couple of weeks, you're I was just like, 124 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.600 all right, this is you know, this is BS you 125 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:54.439 know what I mean like in it, And like said, 126 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:59.839 as far as the vaccine, so like shit, they takes 127 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:04.639 you years to develop them, and then you you look 128 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:13.240 into uh, I'm sorry, I'm nervous, man, but uh. 129 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:15.560 You're doing fine, man, Just go ahead. 130 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:21.399 Yeah, Like the vaccine came out, and like you said, 131 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:23.920 I was very skeptical of it because it takes years. 132 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:26.240 And then they're they're trying to they're they're shoving it 133 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:28.399 down your throat. You know, you get a oh you 134 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.879 got a cheeseburger for a for the back, or you 135 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:33.960 get a vaccine, you get a cheeseburger. And then and 136 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:37.120 then all these corporate companies are like trying to pay 137 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:40.960 you It's like, you don't need to shove it down 138 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.039 my throat. If I need it, you wouldn't have to 139 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:43.919 shove it down my throat. 140 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:49.320 And that's one of the things that I said a 141 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.919 lot on my podcast back then, was like, if there 142 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:57.960 was some type of miracle elixir, you wouldn't have to 143 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:00.440 give it away. You could almost charge whatever you wanted 144 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:00.799 for it. 145 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:01.600 Right. 146 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:06.240 That's what If you literally have something that can save you, 147 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.120 you should be able to put a premium on it. 148 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:08.840 So why. 149 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:13.879 Krispy Krame was giving away donuts if you showed the 150 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:18.000 vax card. The state of Washington had joints for jabs 151 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.159 so you could get vaccinated and get your dooby. All 152 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:24.480 these different things, and like the infamous one that the 153 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:29.759 New York City mayor eating a cheeseburger, and just you know, 154 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.679 I reflect back on this stuff, and twice a year 155 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:35.399 on the fact on our podcast, I'll play some of 156 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:38.080 the audio clips from twenty twenty and it's surreal to 157 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:42.919 hear the things, to see the things that actually happened, 158 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:47.360 and people idly sat by and watch that stuff. And 159 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:49.799 I'm not talking about everybody. There's a lot of great 160 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.759 heroes out there. The pastors like Pastor Bowl of Pulaski 161 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:55.919 I think his name was the truckers up there in Canada. 162 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:57.679 There was a lot of good people who tried to 163 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:02.559 get the message across, but large it was a very divisive, 164 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:03.519 very evil plan. 165 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:08.919 Oh, I mean, man daring all that, like the truckers 166 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:13.440 and like when they were trying to force it, because 167 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:15.799 I think they at one point they were trying to 168 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:19.240 force all the corporations either you got it or you 169 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:24.799 lost your job. Thankfully, I guess it's the Supreme Court 170 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:30.039 like overturned it. But there in that point, I was 171 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:33.360 kind of afraid of where it was going. 172 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.360 Yeah, there was a lot of people who did lose 173 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:41.519 their jobs. And you look at all the people in 174 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:44.039 the military who lost their jobs. Was it eight thousand 175 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:47.240 somewhere between eight and ten thousand lost their job. And 176 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:49.480 now they're like, oh, come on back, you know you'll 177 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:51.960 get your back pay. But how many of those people 178 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.679 who were fired three or four years ago have already 179 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.080 moved on with their lives and have new jobs and 180 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:02.240 new families that they good get back pay from that 181 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:04.519 ruling and not have to go back in the military 182 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:05.080 to get. 183 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:09.759 It, oh for sure. And another thing I wanted to 184 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:14.000 bring up while we were talking about the vaccines. My 185 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:20.440 youngest son he with that told my girlfriend that, like, 186 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:21.960 you know, I don't I don't want him to get 187 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:25.200 any of the vaccines, and you know, she kind of agreed, 188 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:29.360 but then she took him to one of his his 189 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:34.000 first appointment, and when she got home, she was like, 190 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.200 they gave him one. They gave him a vaccine, and 191 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:38.200 you know, I'm just like, well, why do you do that? 192 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:43.519 They which, you know, I don't mean to sound sexist, 193 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:47.039 but I feel like women are easily more talked into 194 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:50.799 doing things like dealing with pressure. And so she got 195 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:52.840 it to him and a week later it was the 196 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:57.000 roadavirus vaccine, and a week later he ended up. I 197 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:58.679 don't know how to pronounce this, but I think it's 198 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:04.759 like it's a susception. Were like, you're intestine like telescopes 199 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.000 on on itself, and we had to take him to 200 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.399 the arm and I forget the procedure that they had 201 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.639 to do. Oh an anima, they had to do that, 202 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.200 And then I looked it up and that was one 203 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.840 of the symptoms that it could cause. 204 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:22.399 Wow. 205 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:24.919 Yeah, but he hasn't got any sense, thank thank god. 206 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:30.440 Gotten a and a suception, serious condition that occurs when 207 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.600 a part of the intestine slides into another part. 208 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:34.679 I wonder if I. 209 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:44.279 Put COVID vaccine vaccine side effect, and then and put 210 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:45.360 that and see what it says. 211 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:47.480 Yep, you know. 212 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:49.960 There was an article from the University of Alabama, the 213 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:52.639 very first thing that actually came up on Google what 214 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.879 are the long term effects of COVID vaccines? And the 215 00:12:57.000 --> 00:13:01.759 article talks about exactly that. That's crazy. That is a 216 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:07.720 common side effect apparently with the vaccine, it says. In 217 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:13.559 nineteen ninety nine, it starts talking about another vaccine that 218 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:17.879 brought upon this what they call a very rare side 219 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:19.120 effect in a susception. 220 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:24.639 Yeah, very rare. It's crazy how that happens to my son? Now? 221 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.200 Yeah, now, did you say it was a coronavirus or 222 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:28.559 rotavirus vaccine? 223 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:29.960 Oh? Rotavirus? 224 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.399 Okay, that's exactly what you know, what I stand, correct, 225 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:35.080 And that's actually what this article is about. It says, 226 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.879 in nineteen ninety nine, a vaccine against rotavirus, which can 227 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:42.399 cause life threatening diarrhea and infants. 228 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:43.639 Was pulled from the market. 229 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:47.399 So in nineteen ninety nine, the rotavirus was actually pulled 230 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:50.440 from the market. Now, I'm assuming, according to our conversation 231 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:55.159 that sometime between nineteen ninety nine and whenever your child 232 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:57.600 had this vaccine, I'm assuming it's within the last couple 233 00:13:57.639 --> 00:14:01.000 of years it's been brought back onto the market. 234 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:01.639 But this. 235 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:06.919 Is a common effect in the roadavirus vaccine going back 236 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:07.879 to nineteen ninety nine. 237 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:11.360 Yeah, and you look up the symptoms and it's like 238 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.559 for the rotavirus, and it's like the exact same symptoms 239 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:15.879 of almost everything else. 240 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:16.360 Yep. 241 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:21.519 So you have a vaccine for everything, and almost all 242 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:22.559 of it's the same thing. 243 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:25.039 Now, that's interesting. 244 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:29.919 There are a lot of articles out there between the NIH, 245 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:38.559 Scholastica CDC with the roadavirus vaccine and intestineception. That's interesting. 246 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:40.519 I'll have to do some more research into that. I'm 247 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:43.639 actually on my radio show. Let me reach over here 248 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:48.480 for a second. I think I put it on my bookshelf. 249 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:52.919 I'm reading a book called Goodbye Germ Theory, and the author, 250 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:55.360 I think his name is William Trebbing. You can find 251 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.840 the book on Amazon. It was written back in two thousand. 252 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:04.080 He was a aspiring medical student and he got uh. 253 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.960 I think he stepped on something and went to the 254 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:09.519 doctors to get a tetanus shot. 255 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:12.120 I hope I'm not confusing the story with something else. 256 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:14.600 But when he got the vaccine, he passed out and 257 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:18.000 collapsed to the floor, and he came to and then 258 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.679 he started doing research and he ended up taking the 259 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.039 route to chiropractory because once he started doing the research 260 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:28.320 into vaccinations, he realized how dangerous it was to people. 261 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:32.159 And then he went even further and started exploring germ theory. 262 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:35.559 And you know, you had a guy named but Champ, 263 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.320 and you had a guy named Pasture, Louis Pasture where 264 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:44.919 pasteurization comes from in milk. Well, they took Pasture's theory 265 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:48.240 over but Champs, which was terrain theory, which is the 266 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:50.679 things that are around you, the terrain that you live 267 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:53.799 in is what causes you to get sick, versus Pasture, 268 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:56.960 which these invisible little germs that they can fly around 269 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:57.720 and get you sick. 270 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:07.559 Wow. Yeah, it's wild man, that the vaccines. Unfortunately, I 271 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:09.799 probably got all the ones during while as a kid 272 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.000 and my other three kids with my my other with 273 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.879 my ex. She I've kept talking to her about it, 274 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:21.200 like can you please stop doing this? And she just 275 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:22.279 keeps getting into them. 276 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.600 Yeah, but you know what, so many of us, and 277 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.000 you know, I was in the military for twenty four years, 278 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:30.360 so you can imagine how many. 279 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:31.320 Vaccines I've gotten. 280 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:32.120 You know. 281 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:35.120 It's just that you you hope and you pray that 282 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:39.720 you either a got the what do you call it 283 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:41.399 when you get a jab, but there's nothing really in 284 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.000 it they have to give up, yeah, placebo. 285 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:44.200 You know. 286 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:45.360 I just hope I got a placebo. 287 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.279 Although when I got the anthrax, I can tell you, uh, 288 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:53.159 it was the most painful job I've ever gotten. And 289 00:16:53.200 --> 00:17:00.120 I never really thought twice about getting vaccines until well, 290 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:03.039 I want to say it was I was definitely in 291 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.160 fort hood, So it was twenty twelve, probably in that 292 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:09.039 particular year. They give us the flu shot through the nose, 293 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:13.079 the one you sniff. Oh, and man, I was jacked 294 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:15.839 up for days, and yeah. 295 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:17.759 Yeah, I've never got a flu shot. 296 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:21.160 It was yeah, yeah, yeah, And now I haven't got 297 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:24.880 one since I've retired. But when you really you take 298 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:28.000 the time and again, once again, for me, it was 299 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:32.640 one of those things. I already went through nine to eleven, Waco, 300 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.640 all these other rabbit holes. And then when you start 301 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:40.400 getting into vaccines and the flat Earth. I think it's 302 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:43.279 easier to look into it, right because a lot of 303 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:46.359 people we have the automatic thing that, oh, flat earth 304 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:47.079 is silly. 305 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:49.599 Because that's what they've you know, put in our mind. Right. 306 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:54.599 Oh yeah, like I said, I told you in my email. 307 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:57.799 My buddy, who I respect, he's a smart guy, he 308 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:00.640 told me. He told me about it, or he's like, 309 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:03.680 you know, you know, he was half joking like, oh, 310 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.200 you know, there's flat and I was kind of like, really, 311 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:09.920 you too, man. And then like you said, the COVID, 312 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.880 like when the COVID thing happened, and you and even 313 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:16.359 the elections like being rigged if you look into it, 314 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:20.799 and then they're they're they started putting uh disclaimers next 315 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:23.880 to everything. And that's when I really like thought like, 316 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.200 there's got to be something, some truth to this if 317 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:27.799 they're trying to hide it like that. 318 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:30.279 Exactly. 319 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:34.160 And then once you start going down the rabbit hole, 320 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.480 like for you, Uh so, so was that basically how 321 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:39.880 you came upon it? Your friend mentioned it or how 322 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:40.920 did you come upon even? 323 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:43.799 Okay that, yeah, he. 324 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.839 Told me about it, and then I started looking into it, 325 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:49.720 and then you know, it came to the conclusion like, oh, 326 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:51.480 this is I mean, this has got to be true, 327 00:18:51.880 --> 00:19:00.720 like and and after after after you except that it's like, man, 328 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:04.799 it's like anything is up for debate at that point. 329 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:07.000 Yep, that's a great point. 330 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.839 And something interesting in your email, which I think you 331 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:14.960 know when you started twenty twenty with the fact checkers, 332 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:19.279 you know, and you have you noticed that, you know, 333 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:22.200 anytime you would research a website or a YouTube video, 334 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.400 you would see that the disclaimer about it being you know, 335 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:31.559 archaic belief and has been disproven, which you know basically 336 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:34.519 is they want to quell the idea of critical thinking. 337 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:39.200 Yeah, yeah, it's like but what they're doing is almost 338 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:43.200 the exact opposite for someone that thinks of themselves, like 339 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:45.039 you know what I'm saying. 340 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:49.400 Of course, right, and like I'll give my opinions on 341 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:53.400 things on the podcast. I'll never tell anybody what to think, 342 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:57.119 or what to do or who to watch, right, I'll 343 00:19:57.119 --> 00:19:59.519 tell you that Alex Jones is control opposition. But you'll 344 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:01.400 you've know, ever heard me. Once you go through all 345 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:04.680 five years of my podcast, you'll never hear me saying 346 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:10.119 do not watch him, because that's me telling you that 347 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.599 you can't figure it out for yourself. And that's what 348 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:15.559 the fact checkers, right, you can't figure it out for yourself. 349 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:19.039 We right, we are the arbiters of truth and you 350 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:21.039 need to listen to us. 351 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:29.640 Oh, I know, it's like it's it's crazy that they 352 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:32.079 do that. They were doing that like that, what is 353 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:35.279 that old saying from the nineteen eighty. 354 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:40.759 Four I forget the saying the Big Brother movie. You 355 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:42.000 mean the movie nineteen eighty four? 356 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:47.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah, or you know, they'll think for you, Yeah, 357 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:52.880 don't think for yourself. We know the truth, so don't 358 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:53.519 look into it. 359 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:56.000 Yep. 360 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.400 The government controls thoughts and ideas. That's where the term 361 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:02.640 the thought police comes from. 362 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:05.440 Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking about, the thought police. 363 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:07.319 Yeah, and then like you don't want to be caught 364 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:11.559 for thought rhymes yep. And with AI and this technology, 365 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:14.039 and then you know, the hint of transhumanism and everything, 366 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:15.359 they can control that stuff. 367 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:16.960 You know. 368 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:20.640 You fast forward from nineteen eighty four to about I'm 369 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:25.039 guessing here twenty ten, the movie Minority Report and the 370 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:28.720 thought of pre crime. Right, it's never actually happened yet, 371 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:30.079 but your brain has thought it up. 372 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:31.160 So we're going to arrest you. 373 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:36.799 And that is something that they want to eventually probably get. 374 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:41.839 To Yeah, it's it's scary to think about one hundred percent. 375 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:45.440 Kind of going back to flattereth a little bit. I 376 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:49.880 always like to ask people about their six silver bullets. 377 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:52.039 You know, what are the proofs if you're having a 378 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:57.160 conversation with someone, what to you are the strongest evidence 379 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:01.119 of us not living on a ball? 380 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:05.000 Well? I think one of the big ones is like 381 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:11.759 there's no curve, like we see too far. One big 382 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.240 one I don't know if anyone's mentioned, is that have 383 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:16.680 you ever seen that? The lunar wave? 384 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:19.279 The lunar wave. 385 00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:24.119 Yeah, it's a there's a video of a guy he's 386 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:28.720 taking the moon and like a wave goes by, like 387 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:31.880 you it's water. You can tell that it's water. 388 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:34.799 I'm not sure I have. Let me go to YouTube 389 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:36.880 real quick, and you thought it was the lunar wave. 390 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:39.000 Let me see if I can find that video real quick. 391 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:40.759 But yeah, that to me. 392 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:45.559 Is I have seen with the stars for sure. It 393 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:47.960 looks like they're you know, shimmering within the water. 394 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:53.640 Absolutely, the lunar wave things pretty crazy if you ever 395 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:56.000 see it, like because it looks literally it looks like 396 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:58.599 water going by and the camera goes down like people 397 00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:01.319 are like, oh, it's it's the camera, but the camera 398 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:02.680 goes out of it and then. 399 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:07.119 Excuse me, you're good. 400 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:13.000 I thought I heard you. The camera goes back, the 401 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:16.039