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Speaker 5: without any further ado, let's bring on today's guests. Joining
Speaker 5: us from Ohio is Mark Mark. Good morning, sir, how
Speaker 5: are you?
Speaker 6: Good morning?
Speaker 5: Thanks for taking the time to join us, and please
Speaker 5: do take a few moments and introduce yourself to the audience.
Speaker 6: My name is Mark. I'm thirty three years old. I
Speaker 6: grew up in Florida, graduated in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 6: Obviously around in the economy was horrible, so I ended
Speaker 6: up in Ohio because my dad lived here. I have
Speaker 6: four kids, so Riley, Manney, Addy and Miko. And I'm
Speaker 6: just happy to be here today. Happy to be here today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's great to have you. And what would
Speaker 5: you say, you know, living in growing up in Florida
Speaker 5: living in Ohio, what are kind of the positives and
Speaker 5: maybe not so positives living in both places with the
Speaker 5: exception of the obvious, which I suppose would be the weather.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, obviously the weather in Florida
Speaker 6: is way better, but Ohio. I like where I live in.
Speaker 6: Ohio is a rural, rural area and uh, I definitely
Speaker 6: like that. So like the small town feel. The the
Speaker 6: police are much nicer to you like they treat you
Speaker 6: like a human being. Uh, not that I don't like cops,
Speaker 6: but they're definitely way nicer in Ohio, at least where
Speaker 6: I live. Uh. And like you said, probably obviously the
Speaker 6: weather and just a small that small town field like
Speaker 6: I like that, Like I just had to go back
Speaker 6: there because my stepdad passed away, and like just that
Speaker 6: the traffic is terrible. Uh, that's probably the main things
Speaker 6: I like about Ohio compared to Florida.
Speaker 5: What area were you in Florida, Jacksonville. Oh, yeah, that's
Speaker 5: a that's a big town, big town, very busy. So
Speaker 5: let's talk a little bit about your your journey to
Speaker 5: the truth. You know, you grew up as a pastor's
Speaker 5: kid and what effect, especially in your teen years, did
Speaker 5: it have being a pastor's kids on your development as
Speaker 5: you grew into a young man.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's funny, like I when I when
Speaker 6: I was younger growing up, like I always had like
Speaker 6: like I wasn't sure if I ever believed in, you know,
Speaker 6: the Bible or anything like that. Look like like you said, uh,
Speaker 6: well before like you kind of had that rebelliousness in you.
Speaker 6: But as far as coming to the truth, have always
Speaker 6: been skeptical about everything, you know, uh, like nine eleven's
Speaker 6: that's probably one of the first things that really got
Speaker 6: me looking into stuff.
Speaker 5: How did you feel when you you know you're going
Speaker 5: down the first time? Because I remember the first drive
Speaker 5: at home Mine was similar to the Bush family nine
Speaker 5: to eleven, et cetera. How did it change you? What
Speaker 5: do you recall finding out like the truth about nine
Speaker 5: to eleven?
Speaker 3: Number one?
Speaker 5: For me, it's wow, the government really does lie, and
Speaker 5: these are the people we're supposed to to trust and
Speaker 5: depend on. Moreover, we pay a large sum of our
Speaker 5: income to and then you know, you look even further
Speaker 5: and you find out who's behind it. It's a very
Speaker 5: deep and very evil rabbit hole. And for most people,
Speaker 5: you know, once you get past the because for me,
Speaker 5: and this is just me speaking here, when I first started,
Speaker 5: really you know, a decade ago, you know, looking through
Speaker 5: this stuff and connecting dots, it was like exciting, like
Speaker 5: almost solving a crime. But then there's the next wave
Speaker 5: of emotions, which is, wow, this is really purely evil.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I know. It's like like they just let
Speaker 6: all these people die and you know they lie. You know,
Speaker 6: weapons of mass destruction. That's what they kept growing in
Speaker 6: your ear. And it's just like there never was any
Speaker 6: weapons of mass destruction. It's like they're willing to do
Speaker 6: all this for what like money, you know, and like
Speaker 6: with the Bush family and the Clintons, and they act
Speaker 6: like their enemies, but they're all in it together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all theater for sure, and back then and
Speaker 5: it still is today, and it's to me, it's it's
Speaker 5: a shame. It's a little sad to see so many
Speaker 5: people still buy the divide and conquer theory, you know,
Speaker 5: team right or team left.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 5: And obviously I think the next one which I usually
Speaker 5: like to bring up, and you mentioned in your email
Speaker 5: before we start getting into the flat earth stuff, was COVID.
Speaker 5: You were, like many many people, very skeptical pardon me,
Speaker 5: skeptical about the vat scene. Anybody who's done a little
Speaker 5: bit of research. Even if you buy into the vaccine theory,
Speaker 5: we're told that the average amount of time it takes
Speaker 5: to come up with a quote safe vaccine is twelve
Speaker 5: years and nine months later. Whoop, there it is, So
Speaker 5: you know, kind of talk me through what COVID was
Speaker 5: like how your family dealt with it.
Speaker 3: Into the vaccines, oh the little.
Speaker 6: I won't I won't lie to you. At first, when
Speaker 6: they when they shut down like the NBA and basically
Speaker 6: shut down everything, I was kind of like a little worried,
Speaker 6: like whoa, It's just like like, how serious is this?
Speaker 6: But then you know, uh, I got the one of
Speaker 6: the like ten weeks off of word uh And after
Speaker 6: the first couple of weeks, you're I was just like,
Speaker 6: all right, this is you know, this is BS you
Speaker 6: know what I mean like in it, And like said,
Speaker 6: as far as the vaccine, so like shit, they takes
Speaker 6: you years to develop them, and then you you look
Speaker 6: into uh, I'm sorry, I'm nervous, man, but uh.
Speaker 3: You're doing fine, man, Just go ahead.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like the vaccine came out, and like you said,
Speaker 6: I was very skeptical of it because it takes years.
Speaker 6: And then they're they're trying to they're they're shoving it
Speaker 6: down your throat. You know, you get a oh you
Speaker 6: got a cheeseburger for a for the back, or you
Speaker 6: get a vaccine, you get a cheeseburger. And then and
Speaker 6: then all these corporate companies are like trying to pay
Speaker 6: you It's like, you don't need to shove it down
Speaker 6: my throat. If I need it, you wouldn't have to
Speaker 6: shove it down my throat.
Speaker 5: And that's one of the things that I said a
Speaker 5: lot on my podcast back then, was like, if there
Speaker 5: was some type of miracle elixir, you wouldn't have to
Speaker 5: give it away. You could almost charge whatever you wanted
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: That's what If you literally have something that can save you,
Speaker 5: you should be able to put a premium on it.
Speaker 3: So why.
Speaker 5: Krispy Krame was giving away donuts if you showed the
Speaker 5: vax card. The state of Washington had joints for jabs
Speaker 5: so you could get vaccinated and get your dooby. All
Speaker 5: these different things, and like the infamous one that the
Speaker 5: New York City mayor eating a cheeseburger, and just you know,
Speaker 5: I reflect back on this stuff, and twice a year
Speaker 5: on the fact on our podcast, I'll play some of
Speaker 5: the audio clips from twenty twenty and it's surreal to
Speaker 5: hear the things, to see the things that actually happened,
Speaker 5: and people idly sat by and watch that stuff. And
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about everybody. There's a lot of great
Speaker 5: heroes out there. The pastors like Pastor Bowl of Pulaski
Speaker 5: I think his name was the truckers up there in Canada.
Speaker 5: There was a lot of good people who tried to
Speaker 5: get the message across, but large it was a very divisive,
Speaker 5: very evil plan.
Speaker 6: Oh, I mean, man daring all that, like the truckers
Speaker 6: and like when they were trying to force it, because
Speaker 6: I think they at one point they were trying to
Speaker 6: force all the corporations either you got it or you
Speaker 6: lost your job. Thankfully, I guess it's the Supreme Court
Speaker 6: like overturned it. But there in that point, I was
Speaker 6: kind of afraid of where it was going.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a lot of people who did lose
Speaker 5: their jobs. And you look at all the people in
Speaker 5: the military who lost their jobs. Was it eight thousand
Speaker 5: somewhere between eight and ten thousand lost their job. And
Speaker 5: now they're like, oh, come on back, you know you'll
Speaker 5: get your back pay. But how many of those people
Speaker 5: who were fired three or four years ago have already
Speaker 5: moved on with their lives and have new jobs and
Speaker 5: new families that they good get back pay from that
Speaker 5: ruling and not have to go back in the military
Speaker 5: to get.
Speaker 6: It, oh for sure. And another thing I wanted to
Speaker 6: bring up while we were talking about the vaccines. My
Speaker 6: youngest son he with that told my girlfriend that, like,
Speaker 6: you know, I don't I don't want him to get
Speaker 6: any of the vaccines, and you know, she kind of agreed,
Speaker 6: but then she took him to one of his his
Speaker 6: first appointment, and when she got home, she was like,
Speaker 6: they gave him one. They gave him a vaccine, and
Speaker 6: you know, I'm just like, well, why do you do that?
Speaker 6: They which, you know, I don't mean to sound sexist,
Speaker 6: but I feel like women are easily more talked into
Speaker 6: doing things like dealing with pressure. And so she got
Speaker 6: it to him and a week later it was the
Speaker 6: roadavirus vaccine, and a week later he ended up. I
Speaker 6: don't know how to pronounce this, but I think it's
Speaker 6: like it's a susception. Were like, you're intestine like telescopes
Speaker 6: on on itself, and we had to take him to
Speaker 6: the arm and I forget the procedure that they had
Speaker 6: to do. Oh an anima, they had to do that,
Speaker 6: And then I looked it up and that was one
Speaker 6: of the symptoms that it could cause.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he hasn't got any sense, thank thank god.
Speaker 5: Gotten a and a suception, serious condition that occurs when
Speaker 5: a part of the intestine slides into another part.
Speaker 3: I wonder if I.
Speaker 5: Put COVID vaccine vaccine side effect, and then and put
Speaker 5: that and see what it says.
Speaker 3: Yep, you know.
Speaker 5: There was an article from the University of Alabama, the
Speaker 5: very first thing that actually came up on Google what
Speaker 5: are the long term effects of COVID vaccines? And the
Speaker 5: article talks about exactly that. That's crazy. That is a
Speaker 5: common side effect apparently with the vaccine, it says. In
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety nine, it starts talking about another vaccine that
Speaker 5: brought upon this what they call a very rare side
Speaker 5: effect in a susception.
Speaker 6: Yeah, very rare. It's crazy how that happens to my son? Now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, now, did you say it was a coronavirus or
Speaker 5: rotavirus vaccine?
Speaker 6: Oh? Rotavirus?
Speaker 5: Okay, that's exactly what you know, what I stand, correct,
Speaker 5: And that's actually what this article is about. It says,
Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety nine, a vaccine against rotavirus, which can
Speaker 5: cause life threatening diarrhea and infants.
Speaker 3: Was pulled from the market.
Speaker 5: So in nineteen ninety nine, the rotavirus was actually pulled
Speaker 5: from the market. Now, I'm assuming, according to our conversation
Speaker 5: that sometime between nineteen ninety nine and whenever your child
Speaker 5: had this vaccine, I'm assuming it's within the last couple
Speaker 5: of years it's been brought back onto the market.
Speaker 3: But this.
Speaker 5: Is a common effect in the roadavirus vaccine going back
Speaker 5: to nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you look up the symptoms and it's like
Speaker 6: for the rotavirus, and it's like the exact same symptoms
Speaker 6: of almost everything else.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 6: So you have a vaccine for everything, and almost all
Speaker 6: of it's the same thing.
Speaker 3: Now, that's interesting.
Speaker 5: There are a lot of articles out there between the NIH,
Speaker 5: Scholastica CDC with the roadavirus vaccine and intestineception. That's interesting.
Speaker 5: I'll have to do some more research into that. I'm
Speaker 5: actually on my radio show. Let me reach over here
Speaker 5: for a second. I think I put it on my bookshelf.
Speaker 5: I'm reading a book called Goodbye Germ Theory, and the author,
Speaker 5: I think his name is William Trebbing. You can find
Speaker 5: the book on Amazon. It was written back in two thousand.
Speaker 5: He was a aspiring medical student and he got uh.
Speaker 5: I think he stepped on something and went to the
Speaker 5: doctors to get a tetanus shot.
Speaker 3: I hope I'm not confusing the story with something else.
Speaker 5: But when he got the vaccine, he passed out and
Speaker 5: collapsed to the floor, and he came to and then
Speaker 5: he started doing research and he ended up taking the
Speaker 5: route to chiropractory because once he started doing the research
Speaker 5: into vaccinations, he realized how dangerous it was to people.
Speaker 5: And then he went even further and started exploring germ theory.
Speaker 5: And you know, you had a guy named but Champ,
Speaker 5: and you had a guy named Pasture, Louis Pasture where
Speaker 5: pasteurization comes from in milk. Well, they took Pasture's theory
Speaker 5: over but Champs, which was terrain theory, which is the
Speaker 5: things that are around you, the terrain that you live
Speaker 5: in is what causes you to get sick, versus Pasture,
Speaker 5: which these invisible little germs that they can fly around
Speaker 5: and get you sick.
Speaker 6: Wow. Yeah, it's wild man, that the vaccines. Unfortunately, I
Speaker 6: probably got all the ones during while as a kid
Speaker 6: and my other three kids with my my other with
Speaker 6: my ex. She I've kept talking to her about it,
Speaker 6: like can you please stop doing this? And she just
Speaker 6: keeps getting into them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know what, so many of us, and
Speaker 5: you know, I was in the military for twenty four years,
Speaker 5: so you can imagine how many.
Speaker 3: Vaccines I've gotten.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: It's just that you you hope and you pray that
Speaker 5: you either a got the what do you call it
Speaker 5: when you get a jab, but there's nothing really in
Speaker 5: it they have to give up, yeah, placebo.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I just hope I got a placebo.
Speaker 5: Although when I got the anthrax, I can tell you, uh,
Speaker 5: it was the most painful job I've ever gotten. And
Speaker 5: I never really thought twice about getting vaccines until well,
Speaker 5: I want to say it was I was definitely in
Speaker 5: fort hood, So it was twenty twelve, probably in that
Speaker 5: particular year. They give us the flu shot through the nose,
Speaker 5: the one you sniff. Oh, and man, I was jacked
Speaker 5: up for days, and yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've never got a flu shot.
Speaker 5: It was yeah, yeah, yeah, And now I haven't got
Speaker 5: one since I've retired. But when you really you take
Speaker 5: the time and again, once again, for me, it was
Speaker 5: one of those things. I already went through nine to eleven, Waco,
Speaker 5: all these other rabbit holes. And then when you start
Speaker 5: getting into vaccines and the flat Earth. I think it's
Speaker 5: easier to look into it, right because a lot of
Speaker 5: people we have the automatic thing that, oh, flat earth
Speaker 5: is silly.
Speaker 3: Because that's what they've you know, put in our mind. Right.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, like I said, I told you in my email.
Speaker 6: My buddy, who I respect, he's a smart guy, he
Speaker 6: told me. He told me about it, or he's like,
Speaker 6: you know, you know, he was half joking like, oh,
Speaker 6: you know, there's flat and I was kind of like, really,
Speaker 6: you too, man. And then like you said, the COVID,
Speaker 6: like when the COVID thing happened, and you and even
Speaker 6: the elections like being rigged if you look into it,
Speaker 6: and then they're they're they started putting uh disclaimers next
Speaker 6: to everything. And that's when I really like thought like,
Speaker 6: there's got to be something, some truth to this if
Speaker 6: they're trying to hide it like that.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 5: And then once you start going down the rabbit hole,
Speaker 5: like for you, Uh so, so was that basically how
Speaker 5: you came upon it? Your friend mentioned it or how
Speaker 5: did you come upon even?
Speaker 3: Okay that, yeah, he.
Speaker 6: Told me about it, and then I started looking into it,
Speaker 6: and then you know, it came to the conclusion like, oh,
Speaker 6: this is I mean, this has got to be true,
Speaker 6: like and and after after after you except that it's like, man,
Speaker 6: it's like anything is up for debate at that point.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's a great point.
Speaker 5: And something interesting in your email, which I think you
Speaker 5: know when you started twenty twenty with the fact checkers,
Speaker 5: you know, and you have you noticed that, you know,
Speaker 5: anytime you would research a website or a YouTube video,
Speaker 5: you would see that the disclaimer about it being you know,
Speaker 5: archaic belief and has been disproven, which you know basically
Speaker 5: is they want to quell the idea of critical thinking.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's like but what they're doing is almost
Speaker 6: the exact opposite for someone that thinks of themselves, like
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Of course, right, and like I'll give my opinions on
Speaker 5: things on the podcast. I'll never tell anybody what to think,
Speaker 5: or what to do or who to watch, right, I'll
Speaker 5: tell you that Alex Jones is control opposition. But you'll
Speaker 5: you've know, ever heard me. Once you go through all
Speaker 5: five years of my podcast, you'll never hear me saying
Speaker 5: do not watch him, because that's me telling you that
Speaker 5: you can't figure it out for yourself. And that's what
Speaker 5: the fact checkers, right, you can't figure it out for yourself.
Speaker 5: We right, we are the arbiters of truth and you
Speaker 5: need to listen to us.
Speaker 6: Oh, I know, it's like it's it's crazy that they
Speaker 6: do that. They were doing that like that, what is
Speaker 6: that old saying from the nineteen eighty.
Speaker 5: Four I forget the saying the Big Brother movie. You
Speaker 5: mean the movie nineteen eighty four?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, or you know, they'll think for you, Yeah,
Speaker 6: don't think for yourself. We know the truth, so don't
Speaker 6: look into it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: The government controls thoughts and ideas. That's where the term
Speaker 5: the thought police comes from.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking about, the thought police.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then like you don't want to be caught
Speaker 5: for thought rhymes yep. And with AI and this technology,
Speaker 5: and then you know, the hint of transhumanism and everything,
Speaker 5: they can control that stuff.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: You fast forward from nineteen eighty four to about I'm
Speaker 5: guessing here twenty ten, the movie Minority Report and the
Speaker 5: thought of pre crime. Right, it's never actually happened yet,
Speaker 5: but your brain has thought it up.
Speaker 3: So we're going to arrest you.
Speaker 5: And that is something that they want to eventually probably get.
Speaker 7: To Yeah, it's it's scary to think about one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: Kind of going back to flattereth a little bit. I
Speaker 5: always like to ask people about their six silver bullets.
Speaker 5: You know, what are the proofs if you're having a
Speaker 5: conversation with someone, what to you are the strongest evidence
Speaker 5: of us not living on a ball?
Speaker 6: Well? I think one of the big ones is like
Speaker 6: there's no curve, like we see too far. One big
Speaker 6: one I don't know if anyone's mentioned, is that have
Speaker 6: you ever seen that? The lunar wave?
Speaker 3: The lunar wave.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a there's a video of a guy he's
Speaker 6: taking the moon and like a wave goes by, like
Speaker 6: you it's water. You can tell that it's water.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure I have. Let me go to YouTube
Speaker 5: real quick, and you thought it was the lunar wave.
Speaker 5: Let me see if I can find that video real quick.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that to me.
Speaker 5: Is I have seen with the stars for sure. It
Speaker 5: looks like they're you know, shimmering within the water.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, the lunar wave things pretty crazy if you ever
Speaker 6: see it, like because it looks literally it looks like
Speaker 6: water going by and the camera goes down like people
Speaker 6: are like, oh, it's it's the camera, but the camera
Speaker 6: goes out of it and then.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, you're good.
Speaker 6: I thought I heard you. The camera goes back, the
Speaker 6: wave goes by, it goes down, the camera goes down
Speaker 6: a little bit, and then it comes back up and
Speaker 6: then the wave's still going. You have to see it.
Speaker 6: It's pretty wild.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm watching it now. And by the way, I
Speaker 5: think that was the YouTube buddy that came through. I apologize.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing it now. Yeah, you can see almost.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's the camera, but it certainly
Speaker 5: does look like it could be a wave like it's
Speaker 5: it's within the firmament, and it's it's the water shimming
Speaker 5: it that that's interesting.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if you've seen the video that
Speaker 6: I'm talking about, but the camera like kind of goes
Speaker 6: down a little bit, but the wave keeps going. Yep,
Speaker 6: it goes out of frame and then he goes back
Speaker 6: up to the moon and then you can see the
Speaker 6: wave continuing to go through.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll put us in here for folks to see
Speaker 5: if for them to check out, there's several there's actually
Speaker 5: several different videos with the lunar waves. That's interesting. I'm
Speaker 5: not sure I've seen that before.
Speaker 6: And then one of the other ones is the you know,
Speaker 6: the scripture, which is an obvious one, and then to
Speaker 6: go Fast Rocket and have you seen that one?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, it just stops.
Speaker 5: I forget what it was, like seventy thousand feet do
Speaker 5: you remember, not feet? Maybe it was seventy miles, Yeah
Speaker 5: it was it was miles.
Speaker 6: It was like seventy miles or something like that, and
Speaker 6: it just stops, loses all momentum.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it stopped on a dime.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's like it hit something.
Speaker 3: I need to see. And another thing too, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Another thing too that I think is weird is that
Speaker 6: we are only ever see one side of the moon,
Speaker 6: Like they say that we're gravitationally locked to it, but
Speaker 6: it's like, what are the odds of that?
Speaker 5: What is the give for that? Like, what is the
Speaker 5: official explanation they give to that.
Speaker 6: I think it's that it's spinning worth spinning at the
Speaker 6: same speed, and it's spinning at a certain speed to
Speaker 6: where we only see one side.
Speaker 8: And oh, okay, that's what I think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's interesting because they play it along with the tides.
Speaker 5: It says, we only see one side of the Moon
Speaker 5: because it's quote tidally locked on Earth, meaning it rotates
Speaker 5: on its axis at the same rate it orbits Earth.
Speaker 7: That's silly, man, It's just the odds of it.
Speaker 6: The odd of it is just too big for that
Speaker 6: to be true.
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially with us being different sizes. Do you understand,
Speaker 5: Like how perfect does it.
Speaker 6: Have to be? Yeah, I know, it's I mean, that's
Speaker 6: all their math and their math too. It's just like
Speaker 6: it's his mouth Bombits like it's just numbers. It's like, oh,
Speaker 6: the Sun's ninety three miles aways, Like, how how do
Speaker 6: you even come up with that number? Like that number
Speaker 6: is so big?
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
Speaker 5: And you know it's interesting though, a lot of these
Speaker 5: numbers that they come up.
Speaker 3: With, whether it be the Moon, Mars, the Sun.
Speaker 5: Uh, these numbers have changed off and over the last
Speaker 5: five hundred years.
Speaker 6: Right, it's like they they can't keep they can't come up,
Speaker 6: they can't keep.
Speaker 5: The story streaks well that and I think somebody may
Speaker 5: prove something saying hey, look this is that, and they're like,
Speaker 5: well it's because of this, and they'll have to change
Speaker 5: the number. And Tesla Nicola Tesla was the one that
Speaker 5: stated that, you know, science was turning into math and
Speaker 5: instead of actually trying to go out there and improve stuff,
Speaker 5: they're simply coming up with with math equations going backwards,
Speaker 5: you know, doing reverse math in order to fit what
Speaker 5: they want to be the narrative.
Speaker 6: Oh exactly. And then science man like, science is like
Speaker 6: a religion of these people. Man, it's like they're repeating
Speaker 6: whatever they read, and then they're telling you since you
Speaker 6: don't believe it, you're you're stupid, like you just don't
Speaker 6: understand it. And it's like, dude, you're just you're just
Speaker 6: listening to what they're saying and repeating it and acting
Speaker 6: like you understand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why, you know, the Neil deGrasse Tysons.
Speaker 5: And then you had they inserted Bill Nye, the science guy.
Speaker 5: Now this was after me. I graduated in eighty seven,
Speaker 5: but I want to say it was maybe the mid
Speaker 5: nineties when they started introducing him into the classrooms.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, I remember him. He was a big
Speaker 6: one whenever I was in school.
Speaker 5: And the subtle, you know, implication was, you know, we
Speaker 5: are to trust someone who has the letters PhD. At
Speaker 5: the end of their name, but science is a very
Speaker 5: big business, and I think that's something a lot of
Speaker 5: people are not aware of. Whether you know, people say, well, bro,
Speaker 5: where's the money in astronomy, Well, astronomy has a direct
Speaker 5: correlation to NASA. NASA makes seventy million dollars a day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think another thing with NASA that's crazy
Speaker 6: that people people don't know that they are the number
Speaker 6: one consumer of heliums.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The United States military, which you know NASA falls under,
Speaker 5: is the world's largest consumer of helium.
Speaker 3: Now they will tell you.
Speaker 5: I forget exactly what the official statement is, something about
Speaker 5: having I think they say they put it around the
Speaker 5: rockets or something to help I forget exactly what the
Speaker 5: official narrative, but it's something like that. I think the
Speaker 5: whole if you go back a couple of years ago
Speaker 5: with the quote unquote Chinese balloon, they said it was
Speaker 5: like a Chinese weather balloon, I think they turned that
Speaker 5: into something to mock us and to look away. I
Speaker 5: think every single government, and I'm talking the large governments.
Speaker 5: You know, probably one hundred and seventy five out of
Speaker 5: the two hundred and six countries, they're all controlled. They
Speaker 5: all echo the same sentiment. So once that satellite, the satelloon,
Speaker 5: if you will, that satellite attached to a balloon, and listen,
Speaker 5: once you get that stuff up into to the upper atmosphere,
Speaker 5: it can float around and get into the jet stream
Speaker 5: just fine, and they can be up there for quite
Speaker 5: some time. But that will got away. And I think
Speaker 5: they created a story to divert from the actual narrative,
Speaker 5: which is most satellites are sadalloons.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And then and that like like
Speaker 6: the moon landing too, and it's like this guy basically
Speaker 6: made a phone call from the moons, Like you can't
Speaker 6: even go out ten miles into the country without losing
Speaker 6: your signal. It's like just that alone, it's like how
Speaker 6: do you how do people believe this? And then and
Speaker 6: then you'll talk to the like, uh, my girlfriend's grandma
Speaker 6: and she's like and I talked talked talked to her
Speaker 6: about the moon landing like that wasn't real, that didn't
Speaker 6: really happen. She was, Yeah, it was, I saw it
Speaker 6: on TV. It's just and it's crazier the old it
Speaker 6: seems like the older you get, it's like the harder
Speaker 6: it is to break them of that.
Speaker 5: It is it is, And you know, I could go
Speaker 5: into another direction, but I'm not. What was Something that
Speaker 5: is interesting is if you look at the technology, and
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the computer technology that was on the
Speaker 5: Apollo eleven mission, they basically had the technology of an
Speaker 5: Atari twenty six hundred And if you go back and
Speaker 5: look at the how many bytes, how many kilobytes are
Speaker 5: on that, it's very little. And you're telling me that
Speaker 5: they were able to to, you know, call the president,
Speaker 5: you know, from the moon, no echo, no delay. There
Speaker 5: was a picture they always mock us. There was a
Speaker 5: picture of Earth from the moon on the wall where
Speaker 5: Nixon was talking from and just the whole thing is
Speaker 5: such mockery. Now and again, we'll never know at what
Speaker 5: stage did these three guys find out the truth? Right,
Speaker 5: because I believe Gus Grissom knew something and they killed
Speaker 5: him and the other two for it, and they brought
Speaker 5: on these three guys. But at the same time, I
Speaker 5: want to say two of the three introuts were Freemasons,
Speaker 5: so they very well could have been in on it
Speaker 5: from the get go.
Speaker 6: Right. Yeah, it's it's it's all. It's hard to believe
Speaker 6: that people believe that at all. I can't believe that
Speaker 6: people believed they actually in on the moon and then
Speaker 6: they lost the technology, like we like, the phone you
Speaker 6: have has way more power than what they had at
Speaker 6: the time, and we can't get there now. Just doesn't
Speaker 6: make any sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and if you can show me one technology that
Speaker 5: we've regressed on, can you think of any.
Speaker 6: Exactly apparently face technology?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and if you think about how much money was involved, Like,
Speaker 5: so tell me this, how come massive amounts of people
Speaker 5: weren't fired for losing the technology to go back to
Speaker 5: the moon.
Speaker 6: Exactly? I need to get a government job.
Speaker 3: You actually get promoted when you screw up in the government.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's wild man.
Speaker 5: So yeah, buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong they were Freemasons.
Speaker 5: There's no information directly correlating Michael Collins, although there's a
Speaker 5: connection between.
Speaker 3: Free May.
Speaker 5: I think it was an Irish guy and there's some
Speaker 5: obviously connections there.
Speaker 3: Who knows, but.
Speaker 5: For you know, I think it's interesting. Number one, his
Speaker 5: name was Neil A. Armstrong, and if you take Neil A.
Speaker 5: Backwards it spells alien accident. Coincidence. Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 5: but then again, he was never the same and I
Speaker 5: think the weight did eventually, maybe he did have a
Speaker 5: conscience and it certainly weighed on his shoulders because he
Speaker 5: was miserable, never spoke. Even at the twenty fifth you know,
Speaker 5: anniversary in nineteen ninety four with Clinton at the White House,
Speaker 5: it looks like he was attending a funeral once again.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I actually work with a guy that says that
Speaker 6: his ex wife was related to him, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 6: it really happened, because I'm like, no, there's no way, dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just because you're related to someone or knows somebody doesn't.
Speaker 5: And if you're a Freemason, if you don't understand it,
Speaker 5: you know, if you look at the Jesuit Oath, the
Speaker 5: Freemason oath, the things that happen and not just you
Speaker 5: but your family if you divulge the secrets.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 5: The anti Mason party from the eighteen thirties was based
Speaker 5: on a Freemason who once again girl conscience. He wrote
Speaker 5: a book and was going to publish it and he
Speaker 5: disappeared from the face of the earth.
Speaker 3: These people don't mess around.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I know. It's like come home to something
Speaker 6: that'll actually help people, then that that's gonna take money
Speaker 6: away from the the corporations. You better, you better watch
Speaker 6: your back.
Speaker 5: Have you had any successes kind of sharing flat Earth
Speaker 5: with whether it's family members or friends.
Speaker 6: Actually, yes, I'm going to tell you about that. Uh
Speaker 6: my mom, I remember asking her when I was a kid,
Speaker 6: uh because I remember, you know, when I learned that
Speaker 6: it was that the Earth is a globe. I asked
Speaker 6: my mom, like, does the Bible say that it's uh
Speaker 6: that that the Earth is a globe? And then then
Speaker 6: she told me no, and that like always resonated with me.
Speaker 6: And and I told her about it, and she actually
Speaker 6: looked into it, and she she thought, you know, she
Speaker 6: she looked into it and she came to the conclusion
Speaker 6: that the Earth was slanted too. But other other than her, man,
Speaker 6: it's pretty hard. I I haven't had much luck outside
Speaker 6: of that.
Speaker 5: So, oh, you know, it's probably a combination of It's
Speaker 5: it's difficult to go up to a friend or someone
Speaker 5: you don't know too well and try to start that conversation,
Speaker 5: like do you feel like you have to be in
Speaker 5: a conversation that's similar. Maybe that's borderline conspiratal conspiratorial to
Speaker 5: actually bring that up, because normally you don't talk about Hey,
Speaker 5: I saw the Jazz beat the Baker the Lakers last
Speaker 5: night and X person had thirty nine points. So, by
Speaker 5: the way, do you think the earth is flat?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean I feel like most of my friends,
Speaker 6: I mean they tend to i know, the left right thing.
Speaker 6: You know, it's all it's like it's a game. But
Speaker 6: I feel like more conservative people are more open minded
Speaker 6: to it. I feel like, but it it's hard to
Speaker 6: talk to You talk to them, and usually that's like
Speaker 6: where they draw the line at, which is weird. I mean,
Speaker 6: it was kind of like that for me too, until,
Speaker 6: like I said, like those disclaimers and then you see
Speaker 6: those disclaimers and you're like, there's got to be something
Speaker 6: to it. But other than that, it seems like it's
Speaker 6: that is like the main thing that people draw the
Speaker 6: line at for some reason. And some people get angry
Speaker 6: with you, like you if you bring it up. You know,
Speaker 6: oh you're stupid and you're dumb. It's hard. It's hard
Speaker 6: to talk to people about about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. It is.
Speaker 5: And you know, people who know me, you know whether
Speaker 5: it's through bowling leg or this or that and the
Speaker 5: other thing. And you can tell because you know, word
Speaker 5: gets around that you have a podcast and people get excited, Oh,
Speaker 5: I work all that love to listen to a podcast,
Speaker 5: And then the next week they see it they're like, oh, hey, George,
Speaker 5: how's it going, and like, which basically gives you the
Speaker 5: oh I thought you were normal, right, And it turns
Speaker 5: out that you believe in flat earth and all these
Speaker 5: other conspiracies and it is a tough road to hoe,
Speaker 5: but you know, it's very similar to tea, you know,
Speaker 5: going out to complete strangers and you know, talking about
Speaker 5: the Gospel of Jesus. Right, people are the same way,
Speaker 5: and the Bible tells us that we are going to
Speaker 5: be persecuted for it. And I think you know that
Speaker 5: that really entails the truth in general, not just Jesus.
Speaker 5: But if you go out there and try to speak truth,
Speaker 5: a lot of truth, people are going to look down
Speaker 5: at you and and like the Bible says, persecute you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny that you say that that, you know,
Speaker 6: people will look down on you. When I first started
Speaker 6: dating my girlfriend now, she told her dad because I
Speaker 6: worked with him, and then he was like, he's like, really,
Speaker 6: you know he's a flat earth or right, But you.
Speaker 3: Know what, go ahead, I was. I didn't mean to
Speaker 3: cut off.
Speaker 5: I was just going to say, you know, we were
Speaker 5: mocked the same way during COVID and then when you know,
Speaker 5: it became mainstream knowledge that they were wrong about the JAB.
Speaker 5: For the most part, there's I guess there's still people
Speaker 5: who think it's the right thing to do because they're
Speaker 5: still giving out the vaccine. But at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, eventually the truth does come out, and you know,
Speaker 5: I'm less worried about being in the camp that of
Speaker 5: people saying I was right instead of just listen, this
Speaker 5: is my beliefs. These are my convictions, and I'm going
Speaker 5: to stand by them. I don't care what other people
Speaker 5: think of me.
Speaker 6: It's like the older you get, you the less you
Speaker 6: care about what people think. That's kind of how I
Speaker 6: feel about flat Earth because people will make fun of
Speaker 6: me about it. All right, you just believe what you
Speaker 6: want to believe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but this is another artificial what's the way to
Speaker 5: put it? Technology has trained many people to subconsciously want
Speaker 5: to be liked. Right, So when you go on social media,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter if it's TikTok or Instagram or Facebook.
Speaker 5: When you post something, what do you go back and
Speaker 5: look for an hour.
Speaker 6: Later, how many people liked your exactly.
Speaker 5: And they have trained people subconsciously over the last twenty
Speaker 5: years through Twitter, through Facebook and all these other social
Speaker 5: media groups. You want to be liked, well, you know,
Speaker 5: if you go out and you talk to your friends
Speaker 5: about flat Earth, there's a very good chance that you.
Speaker 3: May not be liked anymore.
Speaker 5: So exactly, So that's the way that these younger people
Speaker 5: are trained. And people are more worried about being liked
Speaker 5: than searching for the truth. Now that may not be
Speaker 5: the case, but they are less willing to share the
Speaker 5: truth because of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like social media is ruined society, just that,
Speaker 6: just for that reason that you said.
Speaker 3: It has, and people it's the new TV.
Speaker 5: Right, people used to turn on the news every night
Speaker 5: and everybody would watch their news, their local news, but
Speaker 5: it was you know, it covered everything you know, national
Speaker 5: international news, and that was basically dictate what the conversation
Speaker 5: would be the next day at work. Hey did you
Speaker 5: see what happened in Libya? Hey the flu the mumps, which,
Speaker 5: by the way, all the people who stood by RFK,
Speaker 5: he's gonna make America healthy again. Well, now, a natural
Speaker 5: event that happens in people, which is mumps and measles.
Speaker 5: Apparently there's a breakout in Texas and RFK comes out
Speaker 5: today and says we need a masles vaccine. Here's a
Speaker 5: guy who's supposed to be very very he's not anti vacs,
Speaker 5: that that would be incorrect, but he's very much for
Speaker 5: vaccine safety.
Speaker 3: Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, he's right back on the
Speaker 5: vaccine bandwagon. And that goes back to the like what
Speaker 5: you said, people are quick to choose a side, and
Speaker 5: that's our that's who we're going to listen to. If
Speaker 5: they're on team right, whatever they say is correct. If
Speaker 5: you're on team left, whatever the left says is right
Speaker 5: and the other people are wrong.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I did. I don't know, man, the just
Speaker 6: like you said, people people just want to be right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and liked and liked absolutely.
Speaker 5: Another thing that when I have a conversation with the globe,
Speaker 5: the globees, if you will be the water containment and
Speaker 5: the the magic of water bending and also the magic
Speaker 5: of water flowing uphill? Were those one of the things
Speaker 5: that you've researched during your you know your flat Earth
Speaker 5: If you will journey.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, like water needs a container. I mean, it
Speaker 6: doesn't make any sense that we're just flying through space
Speaker 6: and it's holding in all this water while we're spinning
Speaker 6: at what is it six hundred and sixty six miles
Speaker 6: an hour or something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're spinning somewhere between sixty six thousand and six
Speaker 5: sixty seven and sixty seven thousand. I think it used
Speaker 5: to be that sixty six number, but they changed it
Speaker 5: to sixty seven because people started catching on. And then
Speaker 5: you know, the axis of twenty three point four. Subtract
Speaker 5: that from a right angle, which is ninety you come
Speaker 5: out with sixty six point six.
Speaker 3: A lot of numerology to it. But yeah, yeah, the.
Speaker 5: Earth is spinning so fast and that's just holding all
Speaker 5: that water on right, doesn't need a container.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5: So how do we change, you know, the normal course
Speaker 5: of everything that's going on. How do we take a
Speaker 5: hammer and smash the matrix and you know, put the
Speaker 5: sunglasses on someone so they can actually see what's going
Speaker 5: on in the world like they live.
Speaker 6: I don't know how that's gonna happen. Then, I personally,
Speaker 6: I just think that people just need to turn back
Speaker 6: to God. Honestly, to me, that's the only way, Like
Speaker 6: I mean, I do think they overplayed their hand. I
Speaker 6: feel like a lot of people have when like turn
Speaker 6: back to God just because how scary things have got.
Speaker 6: I don't know if we can talk to people about
Speaker 6: it and changed the course we're on right now without them?
Speaker 7: Do you.
Speaker 2: Know?
Speaker 3: It is important to get people back to God?
Speaker 5: And it's it's difficult for me when I if I
Speaker 5: go on a podcast, which I do, or if I'm
Speaker 5: having a conversation with someone who is an atheist or agnostic,
Speaker 5: because to me, some of the most important proofs, like
Speaker 5: you said, are in the Bible. So if someone won't
Speaker 5: accept that as proof, you know, then you can certainly
Speaker 5: like to me the obvious one, what will show me?
Speaker 5: Give me one example, set up something? Show me right,
Speaker 5: how water can stay in a location without containment?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: If we want something to drink, we get a glass
Speaker 5: of water. If we want to take a bath, we
Speaker 5: put water in the tub. When I feed my chickens,
Speaker 5: I get a bucket of water. I don't grab a
Speaker 5: ball and go to the faucet outside, turn it on
Speaker 5: and hope the water sticks to the ball.
Speaker 3: Or if I spin it fast enough.
Speaker 5: You know what happens when I spin a ball and
Speaker 5: I put water on it, It goes flying off. So
Speaker 5: why can't people and listen again? I was part of
Speaker 5: that club for fifty years. I get it, man, But
Speaker 5: at some point we have to because it is very important, Mark,
Speaker 5: It is very important because this is the granddaddy one
Speaker 5: of the I should say, one of the granddaddy's of
Speaker 5: the lies. You can include evolution, the belief that Satan
Speaker 5: doesn't exist or God doesn't exist, and the Big Bang
Speaker 5: theory into those, you know, five big lies. And like you,
Speaker 5: like me, once we see the truth and all the
Speaker 5: other deceptions will fall to the wayside, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I I don't know, man, I don't know how
Speaker 6: how we're gonna change change the course we're on.
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 6: I don't know, dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, I think everybody has a type
Speaker 5: of gift that they can use. It can be a podcast,
Speaker 5: it can be you know, every now and then. I
Speaker 5: like to go down to the Walmart and Camden, Delaware.
Speaker 5: That area there's a little shopping center, walk around and
Speaker 5: talk to people pass out Bible tracks.
Speaker 3: You would be shocked. So I talk to people.
Speaker 5: They're like, there's no way I'm going out in a
Speaker 5: public forum and just randomly approach people because people are crazy.
Speaker 5: That's that's the conception that we have in our mind
Speaker 5: that half the people, like if you're a conservative, like
Speaker 5: half the people that are on the left are just
Speaker 5: crazy nutjobs. And the people on the left think, you know,
Speaker 5: the same thing. But I would say ninety and I'm
Speaker 5: not I'm being accurate here. I would say ninety five
Speaker 5: to ninety seven percent of my interactions with people, and
Speaker 5: I'm talking random strangers like you know, walking up to
Speaker 5: you in a parking lot, are positive and they're the
Speaker 5: people who will you know, and I'm talking, and the
Speaker 5: other people just simply like, no thanks, and they go
Speaker 5: about their day. They don't want to talk, they're busy,
Speaker 5: or they just don't want to hear it. But I've
Speaker 5: never had anybody flip out on me, he scream at me.
Speaker 5: Most people are just under the spell of you know,
Speaker 5: which ideology do I feel closer to the right or
Speaker 5: the left? And that's just kind of the camp that
Speaker 5: I got to be with. It's just not the truth.
Speaker 5: And you know, in church yesterday, the pastor made it
Speaker 5: very clear that, you know, because it actually started out with,
Speaker 5: you know, any prayer requests, and the first one was
Speaker 5: pray for Ukraine. That's what the guy said, pray for Ukraine.
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, here we go. But the
Speaker 5: pastor answered perfectly, he said, listen, of course, but we're
Speaker 5: also going to pray for Russia. We're going to pray
Speaker 5: for Palestine and Israel. We're going to you know, because
Speaker 5: you know, the governments are what control everything. The people
Speaker 5: like me and when I was in the military, the
Speaker 5: Russians who were in the military, they're just called upon
Speaker 5: and sent off to war to do their thing. And
Speaker 5: we should be praying for peace, not particular factions, not
Speaker 5: praying for teams like you're not praying for Republicans or Democrats.
Speaker 5: You should be praying for everyone. And the way he
Speaker 5: answered it was just so spot on right. No, we're
Speaker 5: going to pray for everyone. And that's the we have
Speaker 5: to get out of that, you know, geopolitical world that
Speaker 5: is pushed on us, you know, twenty three hours a day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny, the Ukoreine War. Do you think that
Speaker 6: what do you think about that whole situation? Do you like, well,
Speaker 6: you think that go ahead.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I thought you were finished. You can finish
Speaker 3: what you were going to say.
Speaker 6: No, you can go ahead. I was just wondering, like,
Speaker 6: what do you think about the whole thing? Do you
Speaker 6: think that it's just all games?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, here's the fact.
Speaker 5: The fact is that war started in February of twenty fourteen,
Speaker 5: and once again the CIA was involved. It was a
Speaker 5: you know, I think it was the Orange Revolution. I
Speaker 5: think they call it a color revolution. And the same
Speaker 5: group of people who were responsible for nine to eleven
Speaker 5: were responsible for the fall of the government of Ukraine.
Speaker 5: Victoria Newland was boots on ground when that was going down,
Speaker 5: and there's recorded conversations of who's going to be the
Speaker 5: next president of Ukraine. She is, that's on YouTube. You
Speaker 5: can find it in February March of twenty I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen. So the CIA was behind that. Her husband
Speaker 5: is Robert Kagan. He was one of the authors of PINAK,
Speaker 5: the Project for New American Century that said, you know,
Speaker 5: if we want this new militarized authoritarian government in place,
Speaker 5: we can do it slowly. We can boil the frog,
Speaker 5: but it's going to take twenty or thirty years. However,
Speaker 5: if this country had a Pearl Harbor type event, we
Speaker 5: could get to where we want to be very quickly.
Speaker 5: And I think it was two years later, eighteen months
Speaker 5: later we had nine to eleven. And then that brought
Speaker 5: in the Patriot Act, which was anything but patriotic. And
Speaker 5: now you see we have this technocracy, this big brother
Speaker 5: system and effect, and it came full blast in twenty twenty,
Speaker 5: getting kicked off YouTube, getting kicked off Twitter, being demonetized
Speaker 5: off of PayPal, all of these things, which are all
Speaker 5: of these things were what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 5: Like some people thought the COVID jab was the mark
Speaker 5: of the beast, I didn't think it was. All the
Speaker 5: things that went on between twenty twenty and now is
Speaker 5: conditioning for when they pulled the lever full blast, that
Speaker 5: we're just going to accept everything because we've already been
Speaker 5: through it once.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all that almost kind of seemed like it was
Speaker 6: the test to see how many people they could that
Speaker 6: would fall in line.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But getting back to finish in the answer about Ukraine,
Speaker 5: So those four Ozho blasts voted to go back to
Speaker 5: join Russia, right, Ukraine said no, you can't go, and
Speaker 5: I forget the timeline, maybe between twenty eighteen and twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two that they constantly bombed those and that's Ukraine
Speaker 5: that were bombing their own blasts, and they killed upwards
Speaker 5: of twelve or thirteen thousand people. So Russia said that's
Speaker 5: enough for going in and taking those four areas back.
Speaker 5: And unfortunately, you know, depending on what number you look at,
Speaker 5: but upwards of a million plus people have been killed
Speaker 5: in the last I guess last month made it three years,
Speaker 5: because I think February of twenty twenty two. You know
Speaker 5: what else is interesting. You know, the government and the
Speaker 5: powers that be wanted us to root for a certain team, right,
Speaker 5: we were all supposed to be pro Ukraine. Well what
Speaker 5: team won the Super Bowl a week before, two weeks
Speaker 5: before the war kicked off in twenty twenty two, the
Speaker 5: Los Angeles Rams did what are their colors?
Speaker 3: Blue and yellow?
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 5: I think it's all another you know, pick a team
Speaker 5: and divide everyone and launder money. Of course they've been
Speaker 5: doing that as well. Go ahead, sorry, yeah.
Speaker 6: Do you think like the leaders or they're like buddy
Speaker 6: like behind the scenes, are all like buddies? Yeah?
Speaker 5: You ever seen that picture of Putin and Bush and
Speaker 5: those weird purple little outfits with the yellow gold.
Speaker 7: Stars on them, and no I don't think I have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be sure to link that in the show
Speaker 5: notes too. They're all part of the club, and they
Speaker 5: all play good guys and bad guys depending on you
Speaker 5: know who you are or where you live geopolitically. But
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, it's all about going
Speaker 5: to that first Golden rule on the Georgia guidestones, which
Speaker 5: is five hundred million people in perpetual balance with nature.
Speaker 5: We're at eight billion. That's a lot of people to
Speaker 5: kill off. And war plays a big part of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot easier to control that many people
Speaker 6: than it is to control billions.
Speaker 5: Right, absolutely, absolutely, and you know there are within the
Speaker 5: last seventy two hours.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, here's the picture of.
Speaker 5: Absolute clowns wearing these blue things with the gold.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: War plays a big part of that, and it enriches
Speaker 5: the rich because the military industrial complex gets fed. But
Speaker 5: they're also able to look how much which money goes
Speaker 5: to Israel and Ukraine every single week, I mean every
Speaker 5: single week. But yeah, again they're banging the drums of
Speaker 5: war because you know all that theater. I think it
Speaker 5: was Thursday or Wednesday, right they were going to come
Speaker 5: out with the Epstein lists and everybody was like, here
Speaker 5: we go, We're going to start locking people, Here we go.
Speaker 5: And then they showed this binder with information that had
Speaker 5: been public knowledge for amost a decade. People got very angry.
Speaker 5: And the next day the Trump supporters, especially in the
Speaker 5: next day, Zelenski shows up to the White House and
Speaker 5: you know, he's smacked down by Vance and Trump and
Speaker 5: that that automatically wiped away the news of yesterday. But
Speaker 5: since then, all the leaders of Europe and Canada are like,
Speaker 5: you know, we support Ukraine, We're going to send boots
Speaker 5: on ground. So you know, the drums of wars are
Speaker 5: banging again.
Speaker 7: Well, that doesn't get worst, Yeah, nobody does it.
Speaker 5: You know that that's that's what everybody hopes for. But
Speaker 5: I will tell you that, you know, if you look
Speaker 5: at Karl Marx the Communist Manifesto and how there would
Speaker 5: be three world wars, you know we've already had two.
Speaker 5: So the next one I believe will bring upon the
Speaker 5: great reset. And I do think it will take something
Speaker 5: drastic to bring it on because people don't want to
Speaker 5: accept it, especially after COVID. That's why I don't think
Speaker 5: they can do another mass you know, thing like that again,
Speaker 5: at least not during our lifetimes.
Speaker 3: So the other option would be war.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Do you think that they're to bring that in?
Speaker 6: They're going to have to collass a dollar.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, of course, yeah, that is part. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 5: that's part of the great reset. They will collapse the dollar.
Speaker 5: That's why I think today or tomorrow, Trump's going to
Speaker 5: talk about the great investment in cryptocurrency, and definitely before
Speaker 5: twenty twenty eight, I very well believe we could see
Speaker 5: good buy paper money and I'm talking you know, dollars, coins,
Speaker 5: all of it. And that is a giant step towards
Speaker 5: the mark of the beast, buy and sell right. The
Speaker 5: days of cash and doing you know, people getting paid
Speaker 5: under the table, right, those days are going to be
Speaker 5: long gone. That's why bartering is going to be so important.
Speaker 5: That's why I buy silver every month, copper, a little
Speaker 5: bit of gold. It's very expensive now, I think it's
Speaker 5: thirty two hundred an ounce or something. I don't have
Speaker 5: that kind of money, but I buy silver, guns, things
Speaker 5: that on a quote unquote black market right on a
Speaker 5: bartering market have value.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought that was something that was strange too.
Speaker 6: That happened to me today. Well, I cast a check
Speaker 6: on I had like a run out of my house
Speaker 6: and usually it's available the next day, and they put
Speaker 6: a ten day hold on my check, which I thought
Speaker 6: was really strange.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 3: I have two banks.
Speaker 5: I have a local bank if someone sends a donation
Speaker 5: or something like sometimes I'll get money orders and I
Speaker 5: can't do My bank is in Texas still it's a
Speaker 5: credit union. So I have a local bank if I
Speaker 5: need to do stuff locally. And they did that too.
Speaker 5: I got a money order as a donation. I took
Speaker 5: it down there and it was I said it would
Speaker 5: not be available until ten days later. I think that's
Speaker 5: something new that they're doing. But it's also something that
Speaker 5: they can make money off for ten days without you touching, right.
Speaker 5: They can lend that out exactly exactly. They can make
Speaker 5: money off that your deposit of X amount of dollars.
Speaker 5: Number one, the banks are only by law, they only
Speaker 5: have to hold ten percent of your money. So if
Speaker 5: you donate, donate, if you put one thousand dollars into
Speaker 5: your bank, account. They only physically have to hold a
Speaker 5: hundre dollars. The other nine hundred they used to pay
Speaker 5: their employees their leases, you know, and they use for
Speaker 5: loans and investments.
Speaker 3: The other one hundred they keep in.
Speaker 5: So when this collapse comes, I think it's going to
Speaker 5: make nineteen twenty nine in October of nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 5: and you know, two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3: Looks silly, to be honest.
Speaker 6: With you, Yeah, I wish I was like you and
Speaker 6: had a little homestead. I wish I had more money
Speaker 6: so I could buy some property because it's not going
Speaker 6: to be pretty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's affordable properties out there. The problem is, like
Speaker 5: for me, the VA loan. You can't get land with
Speaker 5: a VA loan. It has to have a house on
Speaker 5: it already. But I saw an article yesterday, right the
Speaker 5: average well here in Delaware at least, I'll tell you
Speaker 5: that the price of eggs are eight fifty for a dozen.
Speaker 5: And there was an article yesterday in it might have
Speaker 5: been Forbes dot com that said they expect the price
Speaker 5: of eggs to increase another forty percent before they level off.
Speaker 5: So you're you're talking close, you know, eleven fifty between
Speaker 5: eleven fifty.
Speaker 3: And twelve dollars a dozen. A dollar for one egg.
Speaker 3: It's just.
Speaker 5: I can't even put into words. A dollar for one
Speaker 5: egg is just If you don't understand the financial trouble
Speaker 5: this country is in by the fact that we could
Speaker 5: be paying a dollar per egg, then then you just
Speaker 5: don't understand economics and hyper inflation. And go back and
Speaker 5: look at all the other countries or empires however you
Speaker 5: want to call it, that went to fiat currency. They
Speaker 5: every single one collapsed. There's not one example of a
Speaker 5: country that went to fiat currency that did not collapse.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm funny you say that the financial struggle because
Speaker 6: I'm feeling it right now too.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 6: Okay, like, especially with four kids, it's I don't even know.
Speaker 6: It's crazy to me. You know, most most people are
Speaker 6: probably making anywhere from twenty and twenty five dollars an hour,
Speaker 6: and I don't I don't see how people are making
Speaker 6: it in like Florida where the mortgages are like two
Speaker 6: thousand dollars. It's like, how do you guys even survive?
Speaker 5: It's crazy. I saw a documentary on the price of
Speaker 5: housing in New York City right now, like a studio apartment,
Speaker 5: which means no bedroom. It's your living room and bedroom
Speaker 5: or all one place, a kitchenett and a bathroom. Like
Speaker 5: that's the cheapest place you can find in New York City.
Speaker 5: It's like twenty five hundred bucks. Like that is the
Speaker 5: cheapest place you can find to live in right now.
Speaker 5: So imagine having you know, a house, three bedrooms, two baths.
Speaker 5: You know, people are paying six seven thousand dollars a
Speaker 5: month for this stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's like what they're that's like what they're making.
Speaker 6: It's like they don't want us to own anything.
Speaker 5: No, Well that they came right they came right out
Speaker 5: and told us that you will own nothing and be happy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, says the guys that will own everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody has to own it, right, and it's going
Speaker 5: to be them. But again, there's and you know, I
Speaker 5: mentioned this on my.
Speaker 3: Radio show Thursday.
Speaker 5: You know, people buy into either Trump or Obama right
Speaker 5: that there are saviors, there are heroes. But the Bible
Speaker 5: is very clear that it's easier for a camel to
Speaker 5: pass through an eye of a needle than it is
Speaker 5: for them to get into heaven.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: It doesn't say it's impossible, but you know, God makes
Speaker 5: it pretty clear that wealthy people, most wealthy people don't
Speaker 5: abide by the rules, and they're not usually good people.
Speaker 5: And it really breaks my heart to see people who
Speaker 5: are self professing Christians buy into politics and the politicians
Speaker 5: the way they do. And it's almost in many cases
Speaker 5: idolatry man.
Speaker 6: Yes, it is my mom. She's a she soul buies
Speaker 6: into it too. She thinks Trump's gonna save us.
Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen. Trump.
Speaker 5: Look what he did in twenty twenty. For those who
Speaker 5: are new to the podcast, just researched the name Wilbur Ross.
Speaker 5: Guy was a Democrat for fifty years and then you know,
Speaker 5: January twenty seventeen, he woke up became a Republican. Trump
Speaker 5: nominated him as the Secretary of Commerce. And you just
Speaker 5: do a little bit of research and you find out
Speaker 5: that that's the guy who bailed out the Trumps in
Speaker 5: eighty seven with Rothschild money. So Donald Trump has a
Speaker 5: direct connection to the roth Childs. And those are the
Speaker 5: people who very very bad people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you think though, that like like God can
Speaker 6: change these people's hearts and like, do you think they're
Speaker 6: all bad? Like all the politicians because I think that
Speaker 6: there might be some that might be able to change
Speaker 6: and do good.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, God gives us free will, so it's
Speaker 5: up to every individual. These people. It's my belief that
Speaker 5: these people knowingly choose worldly riches over eternity because I
Speaker 5: think they are under illusion that Satan is the good guy.
Speaker 3: And that's a whole other podcast.
Speaker 5: When you look at the inversion and Luciferians, how he
Speaker 5: is the light bearer and the connections to the Statue
Speaker 5: of Liberty. There's a reason that the Statue of Liberty
Speaker 5: faces the east because these people are also sun worshipers
Speaker 5: and that's the way the sun comes in. And again
Speaker 5: that itself is a whole other podcast. But it's up
Speaker 5: to the individuals.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 3: God gives us free will.
Speaker 5: That's you know, things happen in our world and people
Speaker 5: get upset with God. You know, how how could God
Speaker 5: let this happen? Well, God gives us free will. Right,
Speaker 5: If he wanted us all to be perfect, he would
Speaker 5: have to control, he would have to be a puppet master.
Speaker 3: But he gives us free will. Right.
Speaker 5: He wants us to live our lives the way we should,
Speaker 5: but also in his glory and it's up to us.
Speaker 5: It's up to every individual if you want to choose
Speaker 5: a godly way or a worldly way, and you can
Speaker 5: have seventy eighty ninety great years on earth and doing
Speaker 5: anything you want to and be rich. But eternity is
Speaker 5: a long time man, and eternity in a lake of
Speaker 5: fire doesn't sound.
Speaker 7: Good to me, right, It doesn't sound good to me either,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 5: But they'll tell you, those evil people will tell you
Speaker 5: that's just a story. You know, when you're die, you
Speaker 5: turn to dust. The earth is two hundred million years old.
Speaker 5: The dinosaurs have coming, you know, and they go into
Speaker 5: that whole thing. It's just not the truth that the
Speaker 5: earth is sixty five hundred years old. God created it
Speaker 5: in seven days. And you know, we just have to
Speaker 5: stick to our guns, say our beliefs and going back
Speaker 5: to what we said earlier.
Speaker 3: That's what it's going to take to break the.
Speaker 5: Matrix, is getting enough people to speak the truth and
Speaker 5: to normalize biblical cosmology and to make helio centrism the
Speaker 5: weird thing. You know, how cool would it be ten
Speaker 5: years from now kids in school saying, oh, that guy
Speaker 5: believes in a ball, What a weirdo?
Speaker 6: Right, right, that would be cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would make you know, if we made that
Speaker 5: much of a difference, that would really collapse a lot
Speaker 5: of the other narratives. But you know, we know who
Speaker 5: was the prince of this world, and it's an uphill battle, but.
Speaker 3: You know we have to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the other thing the pastor said yesterday, right,
Speaker 5: he said the same thing I said. I was starting
Speaker 5: to wonder if you listened to my podcast. He said,
Speaker 5: God put us in this timeline because he knew we
Speaker 5: could handle it, right, because it was going to be
Speaker 5: difficult and we could hand So.
Speaker 3: Everybody should remember that.
Speaker 6: Well for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're down to our last five minutes or so.
Speaker 5: So if there's anything that we haven't covered yet that
Speaker 5: you wanted to mention, that'd be a great time.
Speaker 6: I think I've covered everything that I sorts. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: think I've covered everything. I had a little bit of notes.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I can talk more.
Speaker 5: No, it was a very interesting conversation. We touched on
Speaker 5: a lot of things that we haven't touched on before.
Speaker 5: So I'll, as always, I'll give you the last word
Speaker 5: to the audience.
Speaker 6: Well, first, I want to say thanks for having me.
Speaker 6: I really appreciate it. Man, it's really surreal because I
Speaker 6: remember listening to you. I mean I think I've listened
Speaker 6: to every single episode and just thanks for having me
Speaker 6: and God bless all of y'all. Just keep telling the truth.
Speaker 6: That's if they don't want to listen.
Speaker 5: That's great advice. You know, as they say, you can
Speaker 5: lead a horse to water. That's all we can do
Speaker 5: is leave breadcrumbs or in some cases sit down with
Speaker 5: them have that conversation.
Speaker 3: It's easy to talk about.
Speaker 5: You know, the recent sports score, geopolitical things, but it's
Speaker 5: very important for us to try to have the courage
Speaker 5: to talk about the truth. And of course with the
Speaker 5: Gospel of Jesus being on top. I can't thank you
Speaker 5: enough for your time, Mark, and to all the listeners,
Speaker 5: thank you so much for your continued support. Looking forward,
Speaker 5: we're closing in on two hundred episodes. I think we
Speaker 5: should hit that either at the end of this month
Speaker 5: or April.
Speaker 3: Sometime.
Speaker 5: I have to go look back, but thank you all
Speaker 5: for your continued support. It's been two plus years on
Speaker 5: this podcast and I've really enjoyed talking to the literally
Speaker 5: hundreds of people from around the world. So thank you,
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