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Speaker 2: And welcome, Welcome on this glorious Sunday morning here in California.
I mean interestingly I say glorious.
Speaker 3: Here it is July.
Speaker 2: We were in a drought here in southern California, and
as luck would have it or unluck, yesterday major thunderstorms.
Speaker 3: It felt like I was in Florida.
Speaker 2: Thunderstorms, Muggy. They're actually clearing the beaches because they were
so worried about lightning striking, and apparently there was an
accident last year, so they are very very sensitive to
it now. And anyway, pretty exciting, pretty exciting here in
La though. Today is gorgeous, and I want to welcome
you to Ask the Best with Doctor Jeff. I'm your
host the next thirty mine. It's doctor Jeff Werber. Here
at Ask the Vets with Doctor Jeff, and we are
here for you. We're here to answer your questions, talk
about anything you want to talk about pets, and have
a good time while we're doing it.
Speaker 3: And I will give you honest opinions.
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know you're not going to have any problem with them,
but if you did, I want to hear about it
anyway and anyway, a few things.
Speaker 3: To catch up with.
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, we talked about a patient
of mine that was a fifteen year old Border Collie. Now,
there are many veterinarians, myself included, that are willing to
jump into surgery major surgery on a fifteen year old
dog period, let alone a fairly large one. It's one
of those things where I always say that age is
not a disease. Age is something that we have to
work with. Age is something that we have to consider
when developing our game plan, but age itself is not
a disease. It's like you're not going to say to grandma,
who's ninety two, who fell and broke her him, who
is an otherwise perfect health or blood you're fine, her
heart's fine. You're not going to say, tea Grandma, sorry,
we're not fixing your hip because you're ninety two.
Speaker 3: Everything else is okay, you gotta go for it. So
we had this long discussion with the client.
Speaker 2: The same basic discussion is that yes he's fifteen, Yes
he's old, but we did a blood test perfect. We
checked his heart, lungs, everything is perfect. He's had no
evidence ultra sound, no evidence of cancer anywhere else except
in the jaw.
Speaker 3: We got to do it.
Speaker 2: So we did what's called a mandibulctomy, which took on
his pretty much his entire right side of his jaw out.
Speaker 3: We cut just in front.
Speaker 2: Of the lower bowlers and it's a pretty tough healing
for this old guy. But I gotta tell you, the
owners called this past week said he is doing amazingly well.
He's back to his old self. Like I told the owners,
I can't tell you whether I'm going to give you
an extra year, I mean whatever. The hope was that
whatever his natural life would take him, that's where we're
going to go. And that's great because he's doing really
well anyway, So that's some good news. Those are the
greatest cases where you, your hands actually played a part
and a pets recovery and a pets best quality of
life possible.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of times, don't. We're not lucky.
Speaker 2: We know, we know in this case we saved a
life because without that surgery, this cancer would have overtaken
him in no time. It was so disgusting. It was
eating up his mouth, his entire half, that half of
his mandible which is lower jaw, and he wouldn't have
had a chance. He would have been weeks. They would
have put him to sleep, and now he's done great.
Speaker 3: So that's that's super cool.
Speaker 2: So I hope you are in the rest of this
country enjoying the hot weather. And as you know, we
have spoken about many many hot weather tips, and one
of the points I often make in when discussing exercising
exercise during this time of year is to be very
careful even in the evening when the sun is down,
that when you are exercising, you're walking, you're running with
your pets, with your dogs, especially that you still need
to exercise caution because pavement retains heat. Pavement is very
hot and it holds that heat for a while. And
unless you're going to always be walking your dog on grass,
but even gravel, not only is it hurt, but it
retains heat. Sand I mean, go to the beach during
the heat of the day and see if you can
make it from where you're sitting to the ocean without
running very fast because sand gets very hot. So as
we know, it's a problem, and you know, I'm the
kind of guy that's always looking for solutions. While I
was at the Global Pet Expo last year in March
in Orlando, and I was, you know, I'm always kind
of cruising the booth just to see what's out there
that's kind of new and exciting things that we could
talk about here on the show. And I entered a booth.
I saw a booth that have something that kind of
intrigued me. And they're called Passavers. And I've been talking
to the owner of Passavers, Lenny Sherman.
Speaker 3: And Lenny is with us today.
Speaker 2: Here live on air, So if you have any questions,
get ready to ask them.
Speaker 3: But Lenny, welcome, Hello.
Speaker 4: Doctor Weber. Thank you for having me today. It's a
pleasure to be here.
Speaker 2: And so anyway, you know, when I was in your booth,
we were talking about the Passavers, who were you know,
doing your demonstrations. I tell you I thought they were
a great idea. How did this all start?
Speaker 4: Well, I had similar problems. You know, I live in
New York, and you know, also we have really hot
summers here, but we also have you know, really cold winters,
and my dog wasn't able to walk outside in all
the seasons. He was having trouble all the time. So
I found the need for this product because booties weren't working.
So what I did was I invented this product called
paw Savers, and it's a disposable foam pad and it
adhaps to the bottom of the dog's paw. They come
in multiple sizes to fit old dogs and it's a
very easy application. You apply them for the walk and
they're great in all conditions, whether like you say, in
the heat, or in the snow, or in the rain
and the mud. There's a glass outside and he has
it as materials or just in general keeping the dogs
paw clean during the walk.
Speaker 3: And how would they tolerate it? Pretty much by the dogs.
Speaker 4: Well, you put them on. It's an adhesive, and the
adhesive is a hyperlogenic and non toxic adhesive, so it's
safe for the animal. And once you apply it, it
contours to the entire paw pad. So once the dog
just plaug down, they don't feel it. It's like a
natural feeling. They don't do that awkward kick like they're
wearing booties or anything else, and they just walk.
Speaker 2: What's interesting is that you just meant something very funny
about the awkward kick. You know, when I wrap the
dog's foot for some reason, they do that shakee They
just want to get It's like they don't want to
wear socks. They don't you wear socks, so you know,
kind of what a booty is is that concept that
they sit there and try to get off. And you know,
I was watching the demos, I was watching the dogs.
You had some dogs that you were putting through like
an agility exercises, you know, climbing things up and walking
along things, and they seem to be totally unfazed by
the fact that they wearing these pads.
Speaker 4: It's simply, you know, a distraction for the dog that's
putting them on and taking them for the walk. The
pluppads it'd here and they become one with the pulpad,
so they don't feel them, and they actually enjoyed them
because it provides also a cushion to sixteenth of an
inch foam path, so it provides a nice cushion for
the joints while they're walking as well, and they just
simply don't know they're there. They don't cover the top
of the pod, they don't go nail, so their nails
are exposed, and they're just protecting the pawpad, the most
important sensitive part. And you know typically you know would
pull or they just don't. They don't know it's on basically.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, it's just you know, some dogs have
grow a lot of hair inside in between the toes
of you. If you ever anybody, especially long hair dogs
or fuzzy dogs, if you turn their feet upside down
and you look in between the pawpads, there's a lot
of hair there, Lenny, are there any indications to maybe
maybe have that hair trimmed if you have such a dog.
Will it affect the ability of the pawsaver to stick
on the pad.
Speaker 4: That's a good point, well, when you know, typically the
first instruction of paul savers is applying it to a
dry paw pad, typically the same way you would use
a band aid. So if there is hair that passes
the paw pad, you would want to give a light
trim so it wouldn't affect the adhesive part of it.
It would definitely adheve to it, but you know, removing
it would get you know, slightly discomfortable. So I would
strongly recommend if a dog has long hairs between the
paw pats to give them a trend prior to putting
them on, and you only have to do with you know, ever,
so like two months or month, however, you see the
dog's hair growing back.
Speaker 2: Now, you know you mentioned that. So let's say you
put it on. It's hot outside. The sun's gone down,
so if you feel safer about the heat issue, but
you know, the payment to the sidewalk is still pretty hot,
so that you put on the paw saver. So when
you come back from your walk, is it something you
want to have them removed right away? And if so,
can you use that same pawsaver the next morning or
the next evening.
Speaker 4: Well, the beauty of plus savers is there's different ways
of using it. There's ways of using it. For example,
you know, our three pillars are clean, safe and comfortable.
So in terms of people who don't want to tract
dirt in the house or anything from outdoors, I would recommend,
after you know, a thirty minute walk, I would recommend
to remove the paw saver. They simply just peel off
and you could put it right back on the paper
that it comes with and you can reuse it at
one time or two times, you know, as many times
as you can get use out of it, depending on
you know, the weight of the dog, the size of
the door, the length of your walk, the terrain that
you travel on, and you basically you know, take it off.
Other people may want to just keep it on all day,
so you go for your walk, you come home, put
on in the morning, come home from your walk. I
would strongly recommend to see how your dog reacts to
it in the house, because you know, every dog has
a different personality, and some dogs may want to take
it off when they're home because they're in their home environment.
They don't want they lay down, and they may lick
their pause. Well, as we mentioned earlier that you know,
they are hypolygynic and non toxic, so they are safe.
If the dog licks his pause during it or peels
it off, you know, nothing harmful will happen to your dog.
But I've had many instances where you know, people say, well,
I leave it on because my dog, you know, slips
on my hardware floor. So it's also beneficial to keep
it on and use it indoors as well, and then
you can hold back out and for your second walk,
come back in, use it for your third walk, and
if you still want to maintain the cleanliness in your house,
keeping it on, you may do so. But it just
makes it that much easier to wipe adult's pause with
a nice surface of pau savers rather than you know,
when the dog walks, you know, whether they go to
the bathroom or whether it's in sands or dirt or gravel,
they pick up a lot of residue, a lot of
debris in their paws and it gets stuck in there
and you have to clean it out, you know, because
it's not going to you know, then they're going to
clean it themselves.
Speaker 3: Right, all right, So we have to take a quick
break here. Stay tuned.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: You have some things that you've mentioned, a really good point, Lendy,
that I want to talk about after our break, which
is it's not only to protect pets from the harsh
environments out there. There's some really good medical therapeutic reasons
as well. And I want to get into that because
I just actually sent a dog home with passavers on
Friday for this reason.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us here on this glorious Sunday. You're
here with doctor Jeff Werber, your host for the next
total maybe the twelve minutes here on palac Radios asking.
That's doctor Jeff, and we have Agress today Lenny Sherman,
who is the owner and creator of Pawsavers. And I'm
gonna hold this out for those of you that are
joining us on Skype right now. So this is what
the sheet looks like. If you can see, there are
four pads right here. This is for a large dog.
And simply they just peel right off almost like any
kind of adhesive backing like that bandage, and they peel
off like so. And if you can see, it's sticky.
And the beauty is that after a use you can
always put it back onto the paper and we use
it again as many times as the adhesive will stick
to your dog's pad. Now, you know, clearly one of
the indications of the paw savers or any kind of
paul protector is going to be from the heat. But
what I like about these, and I was so intrigued,
they're very unobtrusive. They don't have this heavy feeling on
the dog's foot. They're not trying to shake it off.
They tolerate them because it's like putting on a band aid.
It's there, but it doesn't affect you at all. It's
like a sticky head on the bottom of the pad,
and it provides a little cushion, so it's actually a
little bit on the comfortable side for them. But what
I notice is they do have a bit of a
traction feature, which is great because many of our dogs,
my old labrador included, as they start to weaken in
their back ends oftentimes, and I'm sure you've seen this
with your old dogs, their feet start to splay out,
and especially on smooth surfaces, whether it's linoleum, tile, hardwood floors,
unless you have carpeting all over the house. I don't
know about you, but I prefer hardwood floors and area rugs.
I think floors are really good. Wood is beautiful, but
it's rather slippery for the dogs. So I had a
dog in yesterday, a fourteen year old German shepherd now
yesterday on Friday, a fourteen year old German shepherd dog,
and he had classic degenderate of myelopathy. And anyone who's
had an old shepherd knows what DM or dejender mylopathy
is all about. And the biggest problem is, as he
is progressively weakening along the back, he is becoming more
unsure of himself because of his poor footing, because as
soon as he steps in anything smooth, he slips right out.
So what happens in a dog like that? They start
thinking that, oh, I can't walk anymore. But if you
got him on grass right or on pavement, they do
pretty well. So I realized, oh my god, this is
a perfect indication to send home some of these Savers
past Savers pads, which we sent home, and I have
not heard back from the owner yet, but I will
certainly follow up. But I think that that is another
really great indication for its use. So it has some
therapeutic benefits, it has extreme protective benefits, and so letting
you guys have been on the market now for how long.
Speaker 4: Well, for about you know, we've done twelve months of
product development and testing before we came to market and
after the Global Products boat. We've been selling about the
product for about four to five months now, so it's
a relatively new product and we're having great results so far,
you know, great feedback from customers, a lot of happy
customers leaving feedback on our social media similar you know
that you just mentioned today, we received one from a
fourteen year old dog that was having trouble walking in
his home and the hard foot floors, and they purchased
pul Savers and the dog walks like he's never walked before.
Had some personal friends as well where he had a
husky in his house and the husky was you know,
they have really shiny floors and the husky is not
even old. It just you know, the floors are so shiny.
It dog's about five years old. She has trouble walking
up the stairs, so with Paul Savers, she just walks
up the stairs really so it feels really good when
you hear you're helping the dogs.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So how many sets you have out there? You think?
Speaker 4: To date, in the last four months, we sold about
six thousand sets and growing, you know, because we just
came to market and it takes quite a bit of
time to do so.
Speaker 3: And there are twenty four pads in a.
Speaker 4: Pack, right, There are six sets, twenty four pads in
a pack, correct, And they come in seven different sizes
as mentioned before, So we taylor to any dog from
fours up to approximately one hundred and ten pounds, right,
seven difference from extra extra small to extra extra large.
Speaker 2: Well, so I guess for us, I know my sister
has been using it on one of her.
Speaker 3: Dogs with success.
Speaker 2: I have a few sets out there that I wanted
to test them before I had you on air. So far,
you know, good results. I'm very curious to see how
the shepherd with the detender of myelopathy does as well.
Speaker 3: What now, I you know, I know a lot of.
Speaker 2: People out there listening have, or at least think they
have great ideas when it comes to solving problems for
their pets, and it's not so easy. I remember when
I had a product line out a number of years ago,
started to go to these pet exposes and trade shows
and they're huge and there are so many things out there.
How difficult was it for you to sort of break
into something that's relatively new, a bit innovative, because there
are a lot there are quite a few booty companies
out there and come up with a way to solve
a problem, and yet can that just be uh, here's
another one kind of kind of thing, kind of product right.
Speaker 4: Well, you know it all came from, like I said,
you know, one thing to help my dog because I
loved them so much. I need and I needed a solution,
and the booties just wasn't a solution. You know, you
could buy a set for like fifteen, twenty thirty forty dollars.
They ranged in different prices, different models. Like you said,
there's a lot of them out there, but the dogs
like to kick them off because they don't feel natural.
So I just, you know, I was thinking. I kept thinking,
and all of a sudden it came to me some
type of a sticker. And then I kept looking into it.
And you know, my background is in the manufacturing business,
so I kept cranking my gears until I finally came
up with this solution. I had it made and you know,
I tested it myself. It was so many hours of
work and time dedicated into this from finding all these
different sized dogs and testing it and I literally myself
measured all their paws and found because obviously every dog
has a different sized pull pad. So we found and
created seven sizes to fit ninety nine percent range of dogs,
which was it wasn't easy, but you know, when you
care about something, you know you get it done. And
I found that going to the Global Pet Expo, you know,
investing my time and my money was worth it because
we could help so many animals out there. That is
no good solution I feel right now with protecting their polls,
especially in a safe and comfortable way Booty. Like I
said before, yes they could be good in the winter,
but what about the summertime? What about places where there
is no winter? You know, there's you know a lot
of different countries came to the Global Pet Extoll, almost
South America, Mexico, I mean, even California. Now they're making
announcements on the news and so forth that you know,
walk your dog before eight am or seven am, and
don't and don't walk it until after seven pm because
the concrete of pavement is burning. You know, if you
put your hand down on the floor on the concrete
and you can't hold it there for five seconds, then
it's way too hot for your dog to walk outside.
That's a such what they're saying.
Speaker 2: Right right, So it's not an easy task anybody who's
out there when you want to bring a product to market.
The pet industry, as we all know, is huge. It's
a multi billion dollar industry. But it does take a
lot of work, a lot of conviction, a lot of perseverance,
and I'm sure Lenny a lot of money to get
a new product out there. You know, it's got to
be tested, it's got to be right.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The worst thing you do is bring a product to
market too soon or without the testing, because that is
it's going to go straight to failure. So you have
to make sure you have something and also make sure
that there's a need out there. Make sure that if
you're thinking about something that you want to solve for
your pet, make sure it's not only your pet, because
you're not going to want to sell just one. The
whole idea is to solve a problem, meet a need
that almost every pet out there could use. And I
think this is really it's a terrific idea, and it's innovative,
it's different. I think it's the only type of adhesive
that I saw of its kind. Like you said, there
are a number of booty companies out there, but I
was very impressed and that's why I had you on.
I thought it was a great idea. I'm going to
be putting them on my old lab so he can
walk through the house without slipping all over the hardward.
I will get back to Lenny and let you know
just how this old shepherd is doing. I'm sure you'll
be interested to know so you can use it in
your marketing as well, because the genner mylopathy is a
big problem in some of these old shepherds, and some
other breeds can have it as well, but notoriously it's
German shepherd dogs. So anyway, I want to thank you
for being here. Where could people find pas savers?
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you for asking? Right now? They can visit
pawsavers dot com www dot Paul pawsavers dot com. They
are also in a large chain in Florida. Like I said,
we just started selling, but they can. Glad we visit
our site. We should direct to customers and we will
be listed on atsmart dot com shortly and maybe the
next week or so, featured on the new outdoor products.
Good for our summer.
Speaker 2: Products excellent, So I wish a lot of luck. Lenny was,
as they said, a good product. Nice meeting you, and
thank you for being here on the show and giving
you a chance to talk about pas savers, which I
think are terrific idea.
Speaker 3: So for everybody else out.
Speaker 2: There, we will be here next week, same same time
and have a wonderful week. Stay cool if you're enjoying
this outdoor sun. I'm pretty most of the parts of
the country I understand now this is true summer. This
is where it gets hot and muggy, so keep yourself
safe and make sure to keep your pets safe as well.
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