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enough about me. We're going to get right into the show.

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Jordan Maxwell, what's going on? My brother?

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Speaker 5: How are you well? I think okay for the moment.

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It's seventy seventy years old. I just had a birthday

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a couple of days ago, so but I'm done pretty good,

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considering everything. Well, good to be back on the air

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with you.

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Speaker 3: Happy belated, definitely, Oh, well, thank you, it's good to

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see you. Good spirits. You know what, every time we

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do a podcast, Geord, you know how to you know

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how to get the people riled up. Man, it's something

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about having a controversial show, which some time just walking

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on eggshells. But I found out that controversy sells, like

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that's what the people want to hear. What is it

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about Jordan Maxwell always brings forth the controversy.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's because I have always, always, even

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as a kid, I've always gravitated toward the secrets, the

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dark stuff that nobody knows and nobody wants to talk about.

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And even as a kid, I would ask questions of

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adults that made them very uncomfortable. They don't want to

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talk about these kind of things. And even my mother

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used to say, well, those are not subjects that polite

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people talk about in polite company. And I said, well,

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then let's just assume I'm impolite. I want to know.

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I'm questioning the integrity of everything. I want to know

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what God is and what God isn't and what the

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government is, and where the money comes from and who's

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running the show. So I you know, I started off

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on the bottom and I kind of worked my way

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down from there, and so I've always been controversial because

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that's the way I think. I mean, I always look

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at the dark side of everything. I mean, you see

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a beautiful marriage taking place, and all the people are happy,

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but I you know, I'm looking at the next twenty years.

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and so. And then when you see a pretty girl

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or a handsome young man, you know, outwardly they are

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very handsome and beautiful until you talk with them, and

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then you find out that there's nothing upstairs at all.

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I have no idea the word what they're doing, and

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their life is going to be a tragedy. I can

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tell by the way they're talking and things they're saying.

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in the world. And so I've always kind of tended

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to look at the dark side of everything, and now

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fifty eight years, everything has a dark side, and so

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you need to wake up and discover the world you

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there's a lot of good, but there's far far more evil,

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far far more deception. And there are good people doing

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good things, and I appreciate that, but there's a lot

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world today, and I think the people waking up to

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that fact. You know, it's not all It's like George

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Carlin said about the people who run the planet. He say,

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it's a big club, and you mean in it, you are.

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in it. And so I have my own viewpoints on subjects,

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but I have discovered that in religion and government and

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commerce and life in general, nothing is what you think

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it is. And there's always another part of the story

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you weren't told and uh. And so that's true in

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banking and commerce and business. And why you know why

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people get in trouble and business is because they don't

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know what they're doing. They don't know what the words mean,

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you know. So that's what I do. I try. I

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purposely try to not offend anyone, because that's not my

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purpose is to offend. But what I want to do

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is to catch people's attention and and and then once

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you've got their attention, explain to them how the world

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really works. Does it work the way you think it does?

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Speaker 3: And you go you find that it goes like Apostle Paul.

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What did Apostle Paul say, Have I become your enemy?

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Speaker 5: Because I tell you the truth exactly? And so I

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believe that the New Testament story in the Bible, the story,

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the basic story of Jesus in the New Testament, I

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believe based on my work that I've only been looking

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at it for fifty eight years, but I'm sure that

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I'm onto something. I believe the New Testament is a metaphor.

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I think it's a symbolic story, and it's well developed

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in symbolism. And if you don't understand the symbols and

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what the different people and the different place pace is

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represent in the symbology, then you're never going to really

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get the real story of the New Testament. You're going

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to take the New Testament as history. And if you

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take it as history, then you're really going to be confused.

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the earth is nothing but confusion. The part of the

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world Eastern and Greek and Russian Orthodox do not see

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things the same way the Roman Catholic Church does. The

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Protestants in the Western world don't see the things that

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the Church does. So there's all kinds of confusion and chaos.

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and chaos in religion, in government, in commerce, and everything

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else in life is because you don't understand the symbols.

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not you, but I'm talking to the world. You're like

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a naive young man going in to a Las Vegas

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casino and you sit down at the table and you

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get ready to play the game, and before you know it,

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you're out of the game. They just took everything. You

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owing money, You ring out of money, and they asked

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you to leave you and you're thinking, what happened? I

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just sat down and I lost everything. Well, because you

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don't know how to play the game. You don't know

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what the rules of this game.

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Speaker 1: Are.

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Speaker 5: So that's why I get in trouble because I do

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try and awake people and you know, make them aware

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of how much they don't know.

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Speaker 3: Thank you show them the rules. So think for the thing,

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for the young man sitting on at the table, you

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trying to tap him on the shoulder, say hey, come

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read this manual before you sit down at the big

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boys table. Go play some slot machines something like that.

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That's why you sit down with these devils right here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then when you sit down with them, here's

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what they're gonna say. You're gonna say this, this and that,

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but that's not what they mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so so true. The whole sleight of hand,

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even even with the car dealers and all that stuff.

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That that that whole analogy is perfect. Jordan. And before

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we went live, I showed you my new shirt that

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I had made. Yeah, Man p Hall team today, y'all

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you know what I'm saying. The Man of Mystery, great teacher.

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you some of his work and how you miss him

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and how he was a great mentor.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a wonderful, wonderful man. I myself just

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my opinion, but I think he was probably one of

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the greatest teachers this world has ever known in any

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era of time, one of the great masters of knowledge

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and wisdom and education that's ever lived on this and

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Grecian Roman Empire, and all the great minds and the

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philosophical teachers of the world. I know about so much

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of that history. I cannot fathohim in my mind. Anyone

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who comes close to the work of Manley Palmer Hall.

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He was an incredibly brilliant man. And he never promoted

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any particular religious belief He never particularly he never promoted

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any particular philosophical or political viewpoint at all. What Manly P.

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Hall did was nothing short of phenomenal. He taught everyone

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about every religion and concept and philosophy in the whole

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world as a master, I don't care what it is,

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and from China to pan to Africa, to any country

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in the world, any nation, any race, creed or color,

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any belief system, any religion, he was a master in

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all of it. What an incredible incredible man he was,

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and he was a dear friend of mine, and I

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learned so much from him. And I learned humility from him,

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because for being such an incredible teacher, he was always

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very humble and very quiet and very you know, just

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a wonderful, wonderful teacher. And I learned a lot from him.

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The world could learn a lot if they just settle

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down and listen to the old man. You know, there's

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and listen to him and just be amazed at the

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brilliance of this man's mind. And I know more about

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him than most people. I can tell you a lot

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about Medley P. Hall that But anyway, I just always

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loved him. I've always respected everything he does. And he's

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gone now, but his work is still with us and

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you can see it on go on the web. Anybody

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listening could go on the web to Manly m A

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n L Y P Hall h A L L and

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go on to YouTube and just type of Manly P.

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Hall and listen to him. You tell me, he's not

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the most incredible thing you've ever heard.

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Speaker 3: I love him because he, like you said, he doesn't

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teach it like he's trying to teach Christianity or Buddhism

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or Taoism or whatever. But he simply acts as a historian,

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telling you what they all believe and how they all

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kind of seem to run together, and essentially essentially lets

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you choose. I have a lot of people that say,

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Manly p Hall teaches this and he teaches that. He

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doesn't vouch for any of it. He presents it and say, hey,

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this is what they believed. How does that apply to you?

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Speaker 5: Right? Yeah, And he would say and he would say,

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It's not that simple. And then he would go into

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two hours of explaining all of the different kinds of

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Buddhism and what each one taught and each one believes,

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and where it came from and where they got their

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ideas from. He's not promoting it. If you go to

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believe something, well here the the rest of the story.

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was able to do, and especially I was very much

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impressed with his Astro Theology series. It's like about seven

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he called it astro theology, and what it was is

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he explained where all of the beliefs and christian and

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Judaism have come from, and the ancient and prehistoric, ancient world,

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the belief systems that finally became known as Judaism and Christianity.

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symbols come from. Where did it all actually be at

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thousands and thousands of years ago. Where did religion start

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and where did it come from? And what a masterful

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job he did with that. Ye, it was startling to

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anybody who has an open mind. And remember, your mind

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is like a parachute, don't work if it's not open. Yeah,

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but if you've got an open mind and you really

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want to know, go on the web to Manly P.

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Hall and look up astro Theology and it's like about

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seven or eight hours where he explains the whole of

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world religions, where it comes from, what it all means. So, yeah,

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of his life.

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how he passed? I've read different things online that he

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was taken out and that there was different things done

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to him. Do you have any knowledge on his final hours?

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Speaker 5: I thought I did. I thought I did because I

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was told by people on the inside who knew something

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about Many Pee Hall's death, and from what I gathered,

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no matter what the story is, there's two or three

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of them out there. Each one's different, but the bottom

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line on all three stories is the same. He was murdered,

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he was killed, and uh and so. But he was like,

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it's still going. Beautiful, brilliant mind. Even at ninety years old.

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could talk about the ancient Sumerians, the ancient Egyptians, the Babylonians,

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the ancient Chinese dynasties, what they believed, why they believed it,

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and what they taught and just he was just a

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magnificent teacher. And uh, I'm delighted that all of his

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work is still out there on YouTube because people don't

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know about him. So I'm trying to make go aware.

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amazed at what you will discover.

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Speaker 3: What's the what's the oldest Manley P. Hall book that

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you have? I love collecting his old his old work.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I had. I had his All Saying

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on his lectures and in his writings and on his lectures,

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he always started right on the hour. In his church,

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his little group, he'd always start right on the hour,

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and exactly ninety minutes to the second he would end it.

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some religious and philosophy that he would start exactly on time,

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and exactly ninety minutes later he came to the end,

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and it was perfectly beautifully presented. And I've often wondered

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how in the world because he put together a beautiful,

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flowing mind trip on education and have it in appropriately quickly,

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right on time each time.

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Speaker 3: Now, was he reading a lot of that stuff or

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was he just going off the top?

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Speaker 5: Wow, it's going off the top of this.

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Speaker 3: How many hours, hours and hours and.

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Sundays he would have, you know, a big meeting like

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a meeting hall, and he would come out and as

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old man, he would come out and they'd sit him

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down on a big, a big, huge share on the

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stage and put the microphone up for him. And he's

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just an old man and there's no notes, nothing, and

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he would sit there and dazzle audiences were brilliant stuff.

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People have never heard the kind of things that he

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was talking about. He was explaining the Bible, where it

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came from, who wrote it, and the Koran and who

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actually wrote it, and what it is actually saying, not

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what you thought it was saying, and the depth of

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insight into philosophies and religions. He was magnficent.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I think I think I heard your timer go off.

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I know you was waiting on some food. I don't

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know if it's that time yet.

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Speaker 5: I just want to Yeah, could well let me go

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check it. I'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Be are to take it for a minute. Definitely, Manley P.

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Speaker 5: Hall.

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Speaker 3: I've dedicated my music to his works. The first couple

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of albums that I put out, Manley P. Hall was

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on the intro and as well as in the credits

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and things like that. So it's an honor to talk

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to Jordan Maxwell about Manley P. Hall because it's Manley P.

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Hall's work that inspired me to create it and to

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do what I'm doing. And then Jordan Maxwell as well.

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Whenever I was kind of having second thoughts about the

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esoterics and disbelief systems, but it was through conversations with

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Jordan Maxwell that encouraged me to keep heading in this direction.

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So it's just a privilege to talk to Jordan about

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Manly as well. Both of these guys are just like

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heroes in my book, you guys. If you guys don't

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know if you gots new to my to Jordan's work.

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Jordan is essentially by my recognition and a lot of

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other people's not his own. He's pretty much the godfather

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of esoterics as you know it now in America, with

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everybody who has podcasts, everybody who's in the lecturer circuits.

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They've all are expounding upon the work of Jordan Maxwell.

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So it's just a pleasure to have you here with

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me again.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you for that. I appreciate that. I started

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doing public lectures back in nineteen fifty nine, that's fifty

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eight years ago on religions, on political movements of the world,

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and how the banks work, and how government works, and

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the whole incredible social order that the human race lives under.

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Don't understand, and I've been trying to wake people up

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to all the darkness that's around the world that we're

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not aware of. Boy, when you start to find out

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how the world really works and what America really is,

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like Dick Gregory used to say, you better find out

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what it really is. Oh yeah, I mean he was sensational. Yeah,

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And I was a very good friends with Dick. We

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used to do shows together. I was on the stage

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with him and sometimes he introduce me, sometimes I introduced him,

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and but we we've been on panels together. And I

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loved Dick Gregory because he was so incredibly right on

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target and everything, but he was funny with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Communication, that's that's a big thing now because there's people

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who they see the like the spiritual leaders or the

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people who present themselves the spiritual leaders of our day

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esoteric circuits, and how they're all poised, and they're all

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dressed really nice and fancy, and they're always spiritual. But

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then there's people who like to tell jokes, they like

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to laugh, they like to see a room of people laugh,

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and they're still spiritual, and they're spiritual leaders and gurus

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as well. And people are fighting within themselves to how

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much of themselves should they let the audience see that

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they're just a normal person just like them. Can you

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talk a little bit about that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that is very true. I have said so many

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times on interviews and lectures I've done around the world,

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but I always try and start off by saying that

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I am not the world's foremost authority on anything. I'm

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smart enough to know how much I don't know, and

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so I'm not an authority on anything, And I say

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I feel better to say that I'm just an ordinary

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man and pursuing extraordinary knowledge. I'm fascinated with wisdom and

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knowledge and the hidden, the hidden story of the world

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we live in.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you because with twenty eighteen. There's

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some news that you have. You've been working with some people.

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You're working with Guya TV. Talk a little bit about that.

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I know you have one interview that's out with George

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Nori and you just got done with a pretty big

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meeting with those guys. Just talk a little bit about that,

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because they're like one of the main sources of people

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who are putting out alternative news and spirituality and stuff

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like that. And are they going to back you.

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Speaker 5: You guys working together, Yeah, yep, we're working together. As

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a matter of fact, I'm doing my first show with

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them on Monday this coming Monday, on the eighth, I'm

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doing a half hour show on Gaya and that will

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begin a whole series of shows to be doing over

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the next period. And so I'm living here now in Boulder, Colorado,

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and the office is only about about six blocks from me,

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and so I'm very happy to be here with them.

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Speaker 6: But I.

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Speaker 5: Need to say that I've had my own radio show

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about seven times in my life. I used to do

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a morning talk show for about three hours in Las Vegas,

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and then also I also had a late night talk

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show in Las Vegas. Also I used to do a

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late night talk show in Los Angeles on the ABC affiliate,

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and I was on KPFK and many other stations. So

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I've done a lot of radio over the years and

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in stations, and I've always got the same problem. I've

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always getting shut off or shut down, and people lose,

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they lose the feed. And I know what it is

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because I'm talking about things that the people who own

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us and who control us and who own us don't

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want me talking. And I know why they don't want

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people hearing what I have to say. But I'm not

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out looking for trouble. I'm not out trying to harm

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anyone or offend anyone. But it so happens that truth

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many times offends people, and it really offends government. Government has.

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Government has an agenda, and the agenda is very simple

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and not hard to understand. They are in the position

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of power to control, and they damn well want to

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stay there and control. They don't want to hear anybody

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who's got the mind to understand who they are and

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what they're doing. They don't want that person talking anywhere, period.

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And so so many good people who were very knowledgeable

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and had important things to share with the world ended

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up dead, assassinated, or that will fell out their car

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and the whole family who have died. So assassinations and

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those kind of things happened to people who are on

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the front line of trying to help their fellow men

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understand what's going on, because the governments do not want

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you knowing what they are doing, period. And even more

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so is that true of religion. Churches, religions, synagogues, the mosque,

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all of these major religions of the world are not

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interested in you shooting your mouth off and telling people

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what they're really doing. They're not interested for you to

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go out there and spoil their game. They've got a

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whole they've got a whole show they're putting on. And

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if you happen to know what's really going on behind

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the scenes, and you go out and start talking about

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what the synagogue is really doing, not what you thought

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was doing, and what the church is actually up to

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that you didn't know anything about at all, believe me,

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that's when you are starting to get on people's nerves.

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Because there's a story out there about who owns us

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and who controls us, and where our country came from

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and where we're going and It's a very very powerful

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and frightening story. When you know how big this operation

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of running the way world really is, and when you

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start to find out how this world really works, then

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you begin to get in trouble because now you're talking

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about things you're not supposed to know and you're not

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supposed to talk about. So I've been talking about these

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things for years. So I just do the best I

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can with trying to help people to understand the world

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they live in. And so I get cut off quite

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a bit on radio. I've lost radio shows because the

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stations just drop me immediately. And I was told, you're

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not talking on our station about the stuff you talk about. No,

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thank you. Why that is true? It may be true,

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but you're not going to And I got to talk

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on this station about it.

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Speaker 3: You can't handle the truth, right, that's it.

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Speaker 5: That's it. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth.

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The truth is not you think it is. So anyway,

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that's who I am, that's what I do, and that's

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what I cause. People get there.

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Speaker 3: Well, hope you take I think I think I think

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they know what they're getting into with Jordan Maxwell. Now,

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so if they approached you, hopefully they know what they're

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getting into. They're not going to pull a rabbit out

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the hat. You know, what you see is what you

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get with Jordan's that's right. You guys came to me

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type deal, right.

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Speaker 5: That's it, you know. And so but I really appreciate

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their kindness. They've been extraordinarily kind and courteous to me

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and very very supportive and and everyone there is very

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very nice to me. And that's something I haven't seen

475
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all my life as well, people who you know, come

476
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,720
to me and show me that they are appreciative and

477
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:53,920
they're decent and honorable and and very generous. Uh, well,

478
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:58,400
that's guy. Guya is a sensational company, and what they're

479
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:01,400
doing is they want to put I think they've got

480
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over eight thousand different videos now that you can access

481
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when you join Gaia. It's only twenty Yeah, yeah, I do.

482
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I haven't only.

483
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Speaker 3: Lugged that link because you get a kickback when they

484
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,680
sign up under your eye. It helps you your word.

485
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Speaker 5: It's very important that that people who want to join

486
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sign up under me because it not only helps me

487
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,440
financially it's just a very small little bit, but it

488
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:34,759
also shows the company the value of my person and

489
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,759
that's what's important to me. I want the people Gaya

490
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to understand who I am and the value of what

491
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,279
I do and who I am, and so well, that

492
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,559
shows up if you got a lot of people joining

493
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,200
because of you, and that shows that you know, people

494
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,680
care about what you're doing and people care about what

495
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:55,319
they're learning.

496
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Speaker 3: We got we got a bunch of questions and just

497
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,920
comments in general in the chat room of people people

498
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,960
just thanking you for your work. That people want to

499
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,240
know where they can can donate to your work as well.

500
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: That would be nice. I practically live on donations and

501
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,440
that's why I live so modestly. But it helps immensely

502
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:24,400
to have donations. And so you just go on my website,

503
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,880
Jordan Maxwell's Show. Very important you add the word show

504
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,440
s how because that's my website. There are other websites

505
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:36,440
out there that you use my name, but it's not mine.

506
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,279
The only one that's mine is Jordanmaxwellshow dot com. And

507
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,359
if you go on Jordan Maxwell Show, uh, there's a

508
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,240
place for donations. There's a little button right there says

509
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:56,400
for donations. But there's also even more important, there's a flyer,

510
00:33:56,599 --> 00:34:03,759
a little notational note advertising my research website. I have

511
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,519
a second, a second website. It's called the Jordan Maxwell

512
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,480
Research Society Research Website. And what that is is a

513
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:18,079
second website, and you have to join it, and there's

514
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:22,360
a little small donation of one time donation for a

515
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:33,000
lifetime subscription. And so I am having my webmaster upload

516
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:40,079
every day, uploading all the documents, videos, pictures, research materials,

517
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:49,360
white papers, connections, links, lectures, all kinds of research stuff

518
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,400
I've been doing for years. And all of my personal

519
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:55,559
friends who are top of the line researchers with me

520
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,000
what they're doing and who you should know about and

521
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:03,280
what you should read and and all the recommended materials.

522
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,400
So it's a it's a research website. And uh and

523
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,880
you get to it just from going to buy Jordan

524
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,320
Maxwell's show, and well you'll see all little thing says

525
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,599
Jordan Maxwell Research joined that, and you'll see I've got

526
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,760
enormous amounts of stuff on the on the site already. Yeah,

527
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,239
but it's it's it's going to be far bigger. I've

528
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,400
got like four terabytes, which is four thousand gigs of

529
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:35,079
research material. But there's only so much a webman can

530
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:39,079
do in one day. And and so my webman's working

531
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around the clock to put all that stuff on there.

532
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,440
But it's going to be enormous. Uh, it's already big,

533
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,440
it's gonna be a lot bigger. So and if if

534
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:52,360
you just wanted to donate, that would be very much appreciated.

535
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And that's right there on the home page.

536
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: You'll see Jordan Maxwellshow dot com all the infos there.

537
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,199
Make sure you guys go over there and do that

538
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,119
as well. I'm a member, be like me, joined Jordan

539
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:04,880
Maxwell's Research Society. Definitely a lot of cool stuff there.

540
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,000
I've been exploring that stuff. There's some questions here about UFOs.

541
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:11,960
They are asking like, when's the last time you saw UFO?

542
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:14,840
People are really blown away by your UFO stories. But

543
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,119
I guess a little bit deeper is the government just

544
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,880
released some footage of this UH fighter pilot following uh

545
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,960
some type of craft or UFO whatever it is. Did

546
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:29,559
you happen to see that footage that?

547
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 5: No, I haven't seen that.

548
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:32,159
Speaker 3: Oh really you haven't.

549
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 5: I've been working on a lot of other stuff.

550
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: It's been all over the news and it's it's it's

551
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,280
funny because they're like, Okay, we admit that we've secretly

552
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,320
been investigating uh, you know the UFO phenomenon.

553
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,639
Speaker 5: Well, it's about time. It's about time.

554
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

555
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Speaker 5: I don't.

556
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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear their explanation though. I don't.

557
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:54,800
I don't think we can trust what they tell us

558
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,039
they are. If they come out and say, hey, there

559
00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,920
are a threat from uh, you know, from a distant gallon,

560
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,400
see another planet, I'm not going to trust that. I

561
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,039
think disclosure is happening. I mean, you've had tons of encounters.

562
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:09,119
I have too, by listening to your work and you're

563
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:12,440
talking about your encounters. I've went out under the stars

564
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:16,119
by myself, meditated and just tried to make contact, and

565
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:21,400
I've had amazing life changing encounters with craft, with beings

566
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out there in the stars.

567
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Speaker 5: Man.

568
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Speaker 3: That's where disclosure is happening.

569
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Speaker 5: That's right as it's out there, and eventually it doesn't

570
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,840
matter what government wants, doesn't matter what government wishes period.

571
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:39,719
Whatever's out there is bigger than government, and it will

572
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make itself known what it chooses to and it hasn't

573
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,760
got nothing to do with you or me. Somebody else

574
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,280
is out there, obviously, we've known that for a long time.

575
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:55,880
The pharaohs of Egypt knew, and all the ancient cultures

576
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,559
of the world talked about and wrote about and talked

577
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:03,119
about the extraterrestrial life forms that are out there, and

578
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:06,079
they're coming here. Of that, there is no doubt in

579
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:08,679
my mind, no doubt my mind, that we are being

580
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visited by alien life forms from a long time ago.

581
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Speaker 3: And people want to say that, Okay, well, what if

582
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:19,760
it's just advanced government technology. What if it's back engineered

583
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craft that you're seeing a lot of times with these

584
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sightings comes telepathic communication where they transmute a thought back

585
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,519
to you. I strongly disbelieve that the government's doing that.

586
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Those are our creators, the ones who seated us here.

587
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They've been watching over us for a long time. If

588
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they wanted to destroy us, they would have been done it.

589
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They've been watching over strongly.

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Speaker 5: Believe that, and that's why I've even said today to

591
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some people will visit me today, that every single culture

592
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that has ever ever existed on this Earth, from Alaskans

593
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to Russians to Chinese, Africans, Asians, every single group and

594
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,760
culture on the Earth period now and in the thousands

595
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,280
of years in the past. It's very important to think

596
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,840
about this. Every culture in the world has the talk

597
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and talks about the aliens, the gods who came here

598
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from another place, the gods, the UFO, the alien life forms,

599
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,000
and Christianity we call it God and the angels. Well,

600
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where is God? Well, God's out there. Even a kid

601
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,760
will tell you if you ask him, where is God? Well,

602
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,679
God's out there. Well, then that means if God's out there,

603
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,000
he's extraterrestrial. He's not from Alabama, so he's out there,

604
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and that means he's an extraterrestrial. Do you believe in angels,

605
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:53,440
in spirits and angels? Yes, well where are angels, Well,

606
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,039
they're out there with God. Oh there's other other living

607
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organisms out there. It's God out there. Yeah. Well, if

608
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it's out there, it's actually terrestrial. So every religion on

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the face of the earth, every philosophy has always talked

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about the gods, the alien life forms that are in

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the universe that have come here. We call them aliens, demons, devils, angels,

612
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:26,480
sons of God and onno Naki and go down the line.

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All the ancient cultures. Everybody knew about it except Americans.

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We don't know I for nothing. It has to hit

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us in the face of what we will admit it.

616
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But just keep in mind the reason why government and

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churches do not admit the obvious is because the whole

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system that controls us on the earth is government and

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religion holding hands. It's the two hands that controlled the

620
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human race on the earth, legit. And so neither one

621
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of those hands want you button in and telling the

622
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,719
people what's really going on, because now it's bad for business.

623
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So they got to get rid of you because you're

624
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waking people up.

625
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that's one of the that's one of

626
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,920
the churches have the backlash too. When you start speaking

627
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the truth in churches and talking about doctrine and dogma

628
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,320
and the truth about the scriptures and stuff like that,

629
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and uh, and you're in that midst of people trying

630
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,639
to do it, you're bad for business. I would do

631
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,360
the same thing, like if like if you try, if

632
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,440
you try to uh uh, you know what I'm saying,

633
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,639
take away from my livelihood. That's what you're doing. You're

634
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taking away from their livelihood when you.

635
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Speaker 5: Do that, exactly right.

636
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Speaker 3: You got to get out of there, your threat.

637
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Speaker 5: They got to get you, right because if you let

638
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,480
him stay here, your name is going to be all

639
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:52,719
over town, and you're not gonna You're not gonna do anything.

640
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,079
Nobody's gonna hurry you. Nobody wants to work with you,

641
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,000
nobody wants to have anything to do with you. Why

642
00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:59,119
because everybody knows who you really are and what you're

643
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:02,599
really doing. And so that's just bad for business. And

644
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,760
that's the name of the tomb with Government is a business.

645
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,679
That's why all churches are in denominations, you know, like

646
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,239
twenties and fifties, one hundreds. Yeah, churches are in denominations.

647
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,880
And government is in business. The whole governmental system on

648
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,920
the world today is a business. And we could talk

649
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,559
about that for hours, but it's a really interesting story

650
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:36,679
about how governments govern their people. And for instance, you

651
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,360
think if you're in the US today, you think you're

652
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,400
in the United States of America. You're not in the

653
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United States of America. There is no United States of America.

654
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:49,960
It does not exist legally or lawfully on the earth

655
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:55,119
you are now living. If you're in North America and

656
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,440
living below Canada, you're not in the United States of America. Sorry,

657
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,199
go back and do your homework. America is no longer

658
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:10,679
the seventeen seventy six republic that was founded back in

659
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,840
seventeen seventy six. That was done away with officially in

660
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:20,920
eighteen seventy after the Civil War, the United States was

661
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,400
a lot of things, but not united. After the Civil War,

662
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,920
we were not united. One after the country was killing

663
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,760
the other half and we made a lot of enemies,

664
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both north and south, and so we were a lot

665
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,079
of things in eighteen seventy, but united was not one

666
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:41,960
of them. So what are you going to do after

667
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:45,920
the Civil War? Because half the country has killed the

668
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:48,960
other half and we're not We don't have any friendly

669
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feelings between each other and in the north and south,

670
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:55,719
and there was a terrible, bloody war. But now that

671
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,599
the war is finally over, what are we going to

672
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,440
do with the country. We're going to do how we're

673
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,719
going to run the country because we're not united? And

674
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so it was decided that we would that the people

675
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who had the money, the wealthy people who ran the place,

676
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,599
they decided to instead of having a country, they would

677
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now make it into a company, a corporation like seers

678
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:31,280
like Exxon and the oil companies and big corporations. United

679
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,159
States today is a company as a corporation. It was

680
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,960
incorporated in Delaware, so it's pretty much a privately owned company,

681
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:46,519
a corporation. And so today, if you are a US citizen,

682
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that does not mean that you're from the United States

683
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of America. That's USA, but you will not see USA

684
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,519
too many places anymore the US. The US did this,

685
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:01,280
and the US did that. Look and find out that

686
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US is a privately owned company. As a municipal corporations

687
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an it's owned by owners. So the United States is

688
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a corporation, and if you are working for the corporation,

689
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you're a citizen of the United States. And and but

690
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once you understand that, that opens up a whole can

691
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,639
of worms as to other words in terms that we use,

692
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because if the United States today is one corporation, one company,

693
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then if you come into this country and into this

694
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:42,639
land without paperwork, then you are illegal because you are

695
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,000
coming into a corporation that didn't hire you. They didn't

696
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:51,199
hire you, but we found you and the Ford Motor

697
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,039
Company found you in their warehouse one night, and you

698
00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:57,719
don't work for Ford. So what are you doing here

699
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,360
if you don't work for Ford? So they put you

700
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under arrest. And so the idea is that if you

701
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,760
come into this what you think is a country. It's

702
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not a country, it's a corporation. And if you come

703
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,039
in here and start working and making money and you

704
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:21,679
are undocumented, they don't know who you are, then they

705
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,719
are going to the company can put a mechanics lean

706
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,960
on you. Mechanics lian simply means if I pay your

707
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:33,559
house and you don't pay me, I can put a

708
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,840
lien on the property. And that means that you have

709
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,159
to pay me before you can do anything because I

710
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:44,239
put a lean on your property. Well, that's what happens.

711
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,000
When the corporation called United States finds out that you

712
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:51,880
are here from Mexico, from South America and you have

713
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,719
it registered, they're not making money off of you. Then

714
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,320
they put a lean on you. It's called mechanics lean.

715
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:04,119
And so you become known as an alien, no not alien.

716
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:10,639
They put aileen on you and becomes aleen a alien.

717
00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:16,760
And so it all has to do with commerce, banking, business.

718
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,199
The whole world is a business, mister beal. If you'll

719
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,400
remember that in the movie Network many many many years ago,

720
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:30,840
the movie Network and the head of the network was

721
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,320
telling the newsmand if you watch the movie, the whole

722
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:39,679
world as a corporation, a company. We do business around

723
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,639
the world as just business and hasn't got nothing to do.

724
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,159
Which will America being the Land of the free in

725
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,679
the home of the brave because you ain't free or brave.

726
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, got a question here. I'm gonna take some of

727
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,599
these questions in the chat. The phone lines aren't up

728
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,480
anymore since the computer shut down, but this is from

729
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:03,360
a friend of mine of Adam star seed Bay says,

730
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,639
a question for Maxwell, do you have any info or

731
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,679
theories on why Antarctica is such a hot spot for

732
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,039
ets in history?

733
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:19,119
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, if there has been if there

734
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:24,199
has been a pole shift. Uh, And from what I've

735
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,079
heard from scientists who have said, yes, we've had pole

736
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:31,840
shifts in the past, maybe millions of years ago, but

737
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,599
they have happened. Well, a pole shift simply means that

738
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,000
if you're living on the equator today is hot and

739
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:43,280
humid because that's the Equator. But if the magnetic poles

740
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,400
of the Earth change, then north and south North and

741
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:53,840
southern North poland South Pole are going to be human,

742
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,639
They're going to be jungles, and the equator is going

743
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,679
to be freezing coal because the whole life of the

744
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,800
Earth has been changed. Around, so the heart becomes freezing

745
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,199
cold and what was freezing coals melted and becomes a

746
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,000
jungle is called a pole shift. Well, I'm saying if

747
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:17,480
there was a pole shift, maybe, as Zachariah Sitchen and

748
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:21,360
many other writers have talked about, that, there were aliens,

749
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:26,679
actual other world aliens who came here and they obviously

750
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,519
picked a warm spot on the Earth to land, and

751
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:36,280
so they probably had a whole network of life forms

752
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,320
that were here hundreds of millions of years ago. And

753
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,079
then if there was a pole shift, now it's freezing.

754
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:47,880
So maybe what we talked about the Antarctica being freezing solid,

755
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:52,800
frozen and North Pole, maybe it wasn't frozen, yeah, two

756
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,199
million years ago, five hundred thousand years ago, and maybe

757
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,280
there were life forms here from other worlds. Maybe today

758
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,400
if you go down there, government's not going to let

759
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,440
you go down there, and it's our international laws you

760
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:10,760
can't go down there, let's they allow you to. And

761
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,360
so I'm thinking that there is something going on down there,

762
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,760
and that has to do with other life forms that

763
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,360
are on this Earth. And there's no doubt my mind

764
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,440
that there is in fact life forms un this Earth

765
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,719
which are not from here that I am totally convinced that.

766
00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:31,119
Speaker 3: What's your relationship with Tasserian because I know he speaks

767
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:34,559
highly of you and talks about how you kind of

768
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:36,719
prepped him up and kind of trained him up and

769
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,599
what he's doing now.

770
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:43,199
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, Michael is a sweetheart. Michael's always been a

771
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,559
very very kind and very very supportive dear friend. Michael

772
00:50:48,639 --> 00:50:54,880
Cesaian and he is absolutely awesome. He's a very brilliant mind,

773
00:50:55,159 --> 00:50:57,920
very very smart guy, and he's done a lot of

774
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:02,199
research on the world we live in. And he used

775
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:05,840
to come to my lectures many years ago, and afterwards

776
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,840
he and I would go out for lunch or dinner

777
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,840
or whatever. And I've always admired him because he's an

778
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:18,280
extraordinarily articulate spokesman for the alternative viewpoint of the world.

779
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,480
And so, yeah, I like Michael very much, and he's

780
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,480
a very smart guy.

781
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,119
Speaker 3: He talks about like a lot of the and the

782
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:30,519
ancient paintings and stuff. We see these different serpents and

783
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:34,960
these et looking beans walking around town into ancient artwork,

784
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:37,599
and that these beings were known by the people back

785
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:39,760
in the day. Do you know anything about that?

786
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:42,639
Speaker 5: Yes, if you go back to the Bible in the

787
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:45,719
Book of Genus gens Is one and two and three

788
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:50,840
all the way up till the Genesis nineteen. From Genesis

789
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:55,039
the first chapter to nineteen chapter is just filled with

790
00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:01,559
stuff talking about the extraterrestrial who came here. I remember

791
00:52:01,679 --> 00:52:05,599
talking with a very famous, very well known, famous rabbi

792
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:11,039
in America many many years ago, in the back in

793
00:52:11,159 --> 00:52:16,880
the sixties, mid sixties, and he was saying that he

794
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:20,519
told me, no place in the Bible, especially in the

795
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:24,920
Old Testament, no place does it say God created man.

796
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,079
And there's no scripture says that. So the church teachers

797
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:31,800
that God created us, But no, that's not what the

798
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,639
scripture says. And there's no place that says God created

799
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,320
us at all. And then I of course asked them, well,

800
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,960
what does it say Christianity would show you in the

801
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,440
and Genesis won the first chapter.

802
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,199
Speaker 3: That it was the God, the Son and Holy Spirit

803
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,039
created everything.

804
00:52:50,119 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, yeah, And then I tell them, no, that's Jewish,

805
00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:56,920
that's Old Testament. There ain't no Father's on the Holy

806
00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:00,400
Spirit in the Jewish world. You better go back and

807
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,400
do your homework on what that word means. And so,

808
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:09,079
but the scripture says, and the Christians will tell you

809
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,440
God created man. Why where does it say that? And

810
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:16,639
so I said that to the rabbi, and I said,

811
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:21,000
because in Genesis one twenty eight, God says, come, let

812
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:24,840
us make man in our image after our likeness. And

813
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:27,760
then Christians will say, see there it is right there.

814
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,239
God said, come let us make man. The rabbi said, no, no,

815
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:35,719
you're reading it wrong. Go back and read the sentence correctly.

816
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,480
What is being said is God said, come let us.

817
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,519
Who's us? Who's us? If God said come let us,

818
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,039
what are you talking about us? Now? God said, come,

819
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:57,039
let us make man in our image after our likeness.

820
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,880
He's already here, but let's make him look like us.

821
00:54:03,679 --> 00:54:08,920
Let's make him be like us. So let's cross our

822
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,559
d n A with this creature. We call the the

823
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:19,480
Neanderthal creature, the ancient ancient Hamonids that we all know

824
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,239
exist because we see you know, we see their their

825
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,719
their skeletal remains. So we know there was an ancient

826
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,159
ancient creature that looked like us a little bit and

827
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,960
walked on two feet, but they weren't us. Well, that's

828
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,760
what the Bible says. God says, come let us whoever

829
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,960
that is let us make man in our image, after

830
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,159
our likeness, because he's already here. But let's change him

831
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:53,000
and make him look like us. And so he did.

832
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,480
He created man, and then later on a couple a

833
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:04,880
couple uh later, God said to whoever is us, whoever

834
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,760
the us is, God said, now look what you have done.

835
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,840
Look what we have done. We have created man and

836
00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:17,760
our image and our likeness. And now he is able

837
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,599
to do all kinds of things. Now he's able to

838
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,519
do mathematics and science, and there's nothing he can't do.

839
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,559
There's nothing he can't do. So now he's become like us,

840
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,320
knowing good and evil. Now he's become like us, knowing

841
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,679
what's really going on. So see what you've done. You've

842
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,840
taken this creature, this harmadid creature, this Neanderthal man and woman,

843
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,559
and you have bred into them our DNA and lottle.

844
00:55:48,639 --> 00:55:52,559
By little by little, it starts changing that creature until

845
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:56,960
one day we come into the world with lasers and

846
00:55:57,079 --> 00:56:01,840
beautiful music and rock. Get said, all kinds of incredible

847
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,079
knowledge and technology. Where did we get it? We got

848
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:10,320
it from the gods. The gods are in the Bible

849
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,800
is called the Elohim. The gods who came here and said,

850
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,880
let us make men like us after our likeness. So

851
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,119
I'm saying, today we humans look like the God who

852
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:29,239
created us. That's exactly what the Bible is saying. Most

853
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,960
people have no idea in the world what those words

854
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:34,199
really mean in the Bible because they don't do their

855
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:34,639
own work.

856
00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you let the scriptures interpret themselves with themselves

857
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,800
versus kind of skipping ahead with the whole father, son,

858
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,960
holy Spirit thing, you know, they have to have a

859
00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:49,480
reasoning for something like, they have to have an explanation,

860
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:52,840
and that's totally not who that is talking there. You

861
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,000
find out, like you said, Genesis eighteen and nineteen, when

862
00:56:56,039 --> 00:56:59,760
the US came down and ate and supped with Abraham

863
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,159
and a wife, and then the other two angels went

864
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,039
to Sodomgamore to judge the city. These were the beings

865
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,480
that created us, they and the people, and.

866
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 5: The people in Sodomy Gamora said that they were good

867
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,480
looking men, m e n. Not angels, not demons, No

868
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:22,639
good looking handsome men. And when and when God comes

869
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:28,360
into in the story in eighteen Genesis eighteen, Abraham and

870
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,639
Sarah and their tent and three men come walking up

871
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:35,599
and Abraham goes out and crawls on his falls down

872
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:38,079
and says, what is by Lord saying to his servant,

873
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,400
And he said, and the Lord said, take your shoes off.

874
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,880
The very ground your on is holy. Why because I'm here,

875
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,960
We'll take your shoes off, and remember who you were

876
00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:53,880
in front of. And then Abraham asked him to say

877
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,679
for dinner, He's gonna fix some dinner. And they said, no,

878
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,320
they don't have time. They don't have time. And so

879
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:05,119
then he insists that they stayed for a quick sandwich

880
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:09,079
or something, and so they said. Then God said, okay,

881
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:12,679
we'll make it quick. And so Sarah fixes dinner for

882
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,280
them very quickly. And the scripture says in Genesis eighteen

883
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,239
that Abraham and Sarah sat under the tree with the

884
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,519
three men, and they all had dinner together. And then

885
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:27,199
two men got up and said, after dinner, well we

886
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,480
have to go. We have to go. But the one

887
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:34,199
who was a spokesman for the three, his name was

888
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:40,719
in all capital letters LRD was in all capital letters,

889
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,760
which means in Hebrew, will tell you that that was

890
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,280
the God, the God, the main creator. And he had

891
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:54,039
with him two angels or two associates. Those two were.

892
00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:58,519
Those two associates went on into Sonomagamara, and the men

893
00:58:58,639 --> 00:59:01,119
of the town said that they saw these two men

894
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,800
and they were very handsome, good looking men. What does

895
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,960
that tell you? If the God comes walking into the

896
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:10,960
camp and all three of them are men, and they

897
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:13,960
sit down and have dinner with you, and then the

898
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,639
people in the other city they went to said they

899
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:21,199
were good looking, handsome men. It's telling you that whoever

900
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:27,000
created us, we looked like them. Now, we didn't look

901
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:31,079
like them in the beginning, but they came here and said, come,

902
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,920
let us make men in our image after our likeness.

903
00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:39,960
So what am I saying. It's appearing that in the

904
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:45,159
Bible the heavens are filled with other life forms and

905
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:51,440
they look like us. And if that's true, then maybe

906
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:55,639
they are so smart. We didn't find them. They found us.

907
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,880
We can't go there because we're not smart enough, but

908
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,400
they can come here. And for us to say always

909
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:05,840
too far, they would never find us. It's too far out. No, No,

910
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,079
it's too far for you because you'll have a bringing

911
01:00:08,159 --> 01:00:11,400
on your head. It's not too far for someone who

912
01:00:11,519 --> 01:00:15,519
drives a maserati. And it was as an am genius

913
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:20,519
intellectually superior to you and as a human, and it's

914
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:23,480
been around his life, for him, has been around for

915
01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:27,840
five million years. He knows more about the universe than

916
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,280
you're ever going to hope to know. And he knows

917
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,840
how to find you. He knows how to find life

918
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,280
in the universe. You don't, but he does. And then

919
01:00:36,519 --> 01:00:38,840
if he wants to, he can come here. You can't

920
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,079
go there, You can't even fly from one place to

921
01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:45,639
another without trouble. He can come here from other worlds

922
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:49,360
that are far far away and hundreds of light years away.

923
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,840
Why because he knows where you are. He knows how

924
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,519
to find you. Yeah, and he looks like you. And

925
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:56,599
that's the scary part.

926
01:00:56,679 --> 01:00:59,719
Speaker 3: That's what the scripture tells us in Hebrews that I

927
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,199
that you know to be courteous to strangers, because some

928
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,400
of you have entertained angels unaware. It didn't even know,

929
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,400
it's unaware.

930
01:01:09,039 --> 01:01:12,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what the Apostle Paul said. Apostle Paul said,

931
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:19,159
always be hospitable to all men, for some have entertained

932
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:25,599
angels unaware, meaning always be careful when you're talking to someone,

933
01:01:26,159 --> 01:01:30,920
talking to another man. Because the gods who created us

934
01:01:31,199 --> 01:01:36,519
created us to look like them, and therefore they could

935
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:41,440
still be here on the earth and they look like men. Yeah, well,

936
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,280
you made a mistake. The guy you were talking to yesterday,

937
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,480
it was not a regular man. You have no idea

938
01:01:49,719 --> 01:01:53,039
who he is and where he's come from. And so

939
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,800
that's why there are certain people today that are extraordinarily

940
01:01:57,519 --> 01:02:01,280
gifted and can do things we can't do. It was

941
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,000
white because they're not from here. They're not like you.

942
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:07,079
You just happen to look like them in your body form,

943
01:02:07,719 --> 01:02:10,639
and you look like them. They look like you, but

944
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,960
it's not the same. You are not like them. Where

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they've come from. They are. They present themselves to you,

946
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,559
and you see them as God, or you better see

947
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:24,880
them as God, because they're far superior to you, just

948
01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:28,079
like the people then in the and the ancient Orient

949
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:32,639
when the Second World War, when America would fly in

950
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,239
all their big jets and all their big planes with

951
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:41,519
supplies and food and everything in the islands and Malaysia

952
01:02:41,679 --> 01:02:44,400
and those islands in the US were setting up their forts,

953
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:49,679
and the people had never seen Americans. They've never seen

954
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,920
an airplane or a jet, those big bombers, they've never

955
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:58,000
seen that, and so they assume that these strange creatures

956
01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:01,079
that kind of look like us a little bit. But

957
01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:04,079
they come in on great spaceships and come here with

958
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,119
food and no, it's just the Americans.

959
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

960
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,519
Speaker 5: Yeah. The technology is so far above their heads that

961
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they think we're gods. Let them think where they want.

962
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So we feed them a little cookies and bread and

963
01:03:18,039 --> 01:03:22,000
give them some Yeah, we give them some trinkets and

964
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:25,880
some rings and jewelry, and they just think, well, we're

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01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:29,840
wonderful gods who have come here from another world. Well, yeah,

966
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:33,840
it's another world. We live in La it's not like Bordeo.

967
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,639
Speaker 3: But then again, you have on the other hand, I

968
01:03:36,719 --> 01:03:39,480
know it's kind of controversial some of the other tribes

969
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:43,920
who when they see a white person they instinctively get scared.

970
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:47,280
And so this is the devil everywhere you go. You're

971
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causing confusion, You're you're poisoning the water, you're polluting the air.

972
01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:54,039
We can't drink the water. So there's these other tribes

973
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away in the woods where they see a white person,

974
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they think it's Satan himself.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, yeah, but if I'm talking to him,

976
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:02,280
I said, yeah, I think you're right.

977
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Speaker 3: The cargo looks like it is interesting to the cargo.

978
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:15,840
Cargo is very uh interesting, and it's crazy that that.

979
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I think there's a documentary out there. I don't know

980
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,880
if it's if it's real. Is that footage real or

981
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:21,599
is that a remake?

982
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 5: Uh, I'm not sure which one you're talking about. But

983
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there's been many documentaries talking about the subject of the

984
01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:36,159
gods that created us. Our God that created us looks

985
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,679
exactly like us, and and so it says that. And

986
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,920
the Genesis it says that God walked and talked with

987
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:48,039
Adam and the cool of the evening. Well, the word

988
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,360
walk and talk with is a word in Hebrew which

989
01:04:52,639 --> 01:04:58,639
means that you hear footsteps on leaves and branches. So

990
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,119
when you can hear some the footsteps of leaves and branches,

991
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,840
you know somebody is there and somebody is behind you.

992
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,840
You may not be able to see them, but if

993
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,760
you're hearing branches break and leave smashing, you know somebody's

994
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,119
in the woods and they're watching you and they're following you.

995
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:18,280
So that's what the scripture says, that God walks and

996
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,239
talked with Adam in the cool of the evening. Well,

997
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:25,679
that's white because Adam could hear somebody is walking with us.

998
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: So we have a question here. It's a question. I

999
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,440
guess it's a comment, but it kind of leads to

1000
01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:34,559
a question that says, uh, this is Carolyn talking. Let's see.

1001
01:05:34,599 --> 01:05:46,119
I think we have another person joining you there. Jordan, okay, Leo,

1002
01:05:46,239 --> 01:05:46,679
are you there?

1003
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,719
Speaker 5: No, now I can see you.

1004
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,519
Speaker 3: Okay, cool. Maybe he'll have to call in again. I'm

1005
01:05:51,519 --> 01:05:53,960
trying to join somebody to the video chat. But so,

1006
01:05:54,119 --> 01:05:56,960
she says, one teacher opened my mind when she said

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01:05:57,039 --> 01:06:02,320
angels are energies, but when they come into physicality, they

1008
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,239
can look like anything they want to. I guess it

1009
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,199
kind of reminds me of when you said that prayer

1010
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:10,639
when you knew that there was something out there watching

1011
01:06:10,719 --> 01:06:14,199
over you, but you said, please don't come to me

1012
01:06:14,639 --> 01:06:17,840
in the middle of the night as a little gray being. Right,

1013
01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:23,320
And they can change their shape, as I guess, at

1014
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,280
will and appear however they want. Right.

1015
01:06:26,719 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 5: Well, we have that kind of technology ourselves nowadays were

1016
01:06:31,639 --> 01:06:37,599
the cutting edge of technology. We have recorders, digital recorders.

1017
01:06:37,679 --> 01:06:41,920
We can record the voices. It's absolutely flawlessly your voice

1018
01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:45,800
as your personality in that voice, but it's just a

1019
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:50,599
digital recording. And then we are there's science right now

1020
01:06:50,719 --> 01:06:55,360
that can replace body parts, you know, and so it

1021
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,440
looks just like you, but it's not you. And so

1022
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,679
we don't know what technology aliens have from another world.

1023
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,760
If they've come from say one hundred thousand light years

1024
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:13,679
away and another galaxy and another time space continuum, and

1025
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,360
they come here, we don't know what they are like,

1026
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:20,480
We don't know what they can do. But you have

1027
01:07:20,679 --> 01:07:25,760
to assume logical I would assume that they're smarter than

1028
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,480
you are. I mean, if they found you, you didn't

1029
01:07:29,559 --> 01:07:32,199
find them, and they came here, and they're smart enough

1030
01:07:32,239 --> 01:07:36,480
to get here and go home, you're not. So it's

1031
01:07:36,599 --> 01:07:39,440
kind of a scary proposition where you start thinking about

1032
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:43,760
what the Bible was saying about God because we look

1033
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:44,320
like him.

1034
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:46,519
Speaker 3: Leo, you there?

1035
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 5: I am Hello?

1036
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, you got you on with Jordan?

1037
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:49,719
Speaker 6: Brother?

1038
01:07:50,679 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 5: Nice?

1039
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:52,159
Speaker 7: How you doing, Jordan?

1040
01:07:52,519 --> 01:07:52,639
Speaker 6: Oh?

1041
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,719
Speaker 5: Nice? Nice to hear from you. That's where we're going

1042
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:56,199
to tell.

1043
01:07:56,159 --> 01:07:59,599
Speaker 7: You the last time we all got together with Derek.

1044
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:11,679
Speaker 5: What are we doing now? Do we lose him? Now?

1045
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: Do you have a question Leo or comment?

1046
01:08:14,039 --> 01:08:14,239
Speaker 7: I do?

1047
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:14,679
Speaker 5: I do?

1048
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:15,239
Speaker 7: Can you hear me?

1049
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:15,639
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1050
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 7: Oh?

1051
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:17,119
Speaker 3: Perfect?

1052
01:08:17,159 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 5: There you go.

1053
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,279
Speaker 6: So Jordan, I've been I've been itching asking this question.

1054
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:24,680
For a while, and it's a it's a pleasure to

1055
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,479
have you live right now doing this. But I've been

1056
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:33,600
doing some research into the Mazarath, and I was telling

1057
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,880
Derek Mann, I'd really like for you to ask him

1058
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:40,800
if he could clarify what the difference was between the

1059
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:46,079
Mazaroth and the mas a Lot, because from what I'm

1060
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:47,319
hearing is.

1061
01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:48,079
Speaker 3: That there's.

1062
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 6: There's an understanding that the Mazarath were those who believed

1063
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,119
in the astronomy, and the mas a Lot were those

1064
01:08:57,159 --> 01:08:58,560
who believed in astrology.

1065
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 7: And I'm just kind of trying to bring this all together.

1066
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 6: But from what understanding is there are those who believe

1067
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:10,720
in astrology, of those who believe in astronomy, and there

1068
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,159
there are Christians who believe in in the narrative that

1069
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:18,000
the Bible has an unraveling story in the stars of

1070
01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:19,640
the coming of Jesus Christ.

1071
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:23,039
Speaker 7: And that's what this this all means. We look to this,

1072
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:23,840
we look to the.

1073
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:28,319
Speaker 6: Stars for signs of the times, and the coming of

1074
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:32,239
the second atom was was that sign the sign that

1075
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:35,119
Jesus Christ was to become the second atom?

1076
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,079
Speaker 5: But then there are well, let me let me talk

1077
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:46,319
and play this. The word Manselroth appears in the Bible

1078
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,840
and the Old Testament, and it appears in the oldest

1079
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,680
book in the Bible. The single oldest book in the

1080
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:58,239
Bible is Job. Job is the oldest book in all Bible.

1081
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:02,159
Researchers and uuthorities will tell you that's the oldest book

1082
01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:05,800
in the Bible is Job. And in Job, the thirty

1083
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,520
eighth chapter of Job number and thirty eight thirty one.

1084
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:15,119
Speaker 6: One can say it again, thirty thirty eight thirty one.

1085
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,199
Can you bind the chains of the sky? Can you

1086
01:10:18,279 --> 01:10:22,600
bring forth the Mazarath? Yes, that's correct. But what I

1087
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:27,239
was going to say is that Mazaroth. All Bible commentaries,

1088
01:10:27,399 --> 01:10:31,000
all Bible dictionaries and encyclopedias will tell you. All of

1089
01:10:31,119 --> 01:10:35,279
them say the same thing. It's the Mazaroth is the zodiac.

1090
01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:39,479
And let me explain to you how this connects to

1091
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:45,600
the the What am I trying to say? The Kingdom

1092
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,880
of God. We hear about the Kingdom of God all

1093
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,920
the time, and the Christians are working toward the Kingdom

1094
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,920
of God. Well, first of all, you need to understand

1095
01:10:56,039 --> 01:11:01,119
what's being said with that term Kingdom of God. We

1096
01:11:01,399 --> 01:11:05,319
humans on the earth put all life forms into categories.

1097
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:11,960
The fish are in schools, geese or in flocks, cattle

1098
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:17,079
or in herds, dogs are in pacts. Lions are in pride,

1099
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,760
you know, and so and fish are in schools. So

1100
01:11:22,359 --> 01:11:26,479
we humans put animals and creatures into a into a

1101
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:30,119
family life, and then we give them the terms as

1102
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:34,479
either a school or a pack or whatever. Well, what

1103
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,239
kind of creatures on the earth do we humans put

1104
01:11:38,359 --> 01:11:43,680
into a kingdom? What kind of creatures do we humans

1105
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,840
say are in a kingdom?

1106
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 5: Yes, animals, the Book Gate.

1107
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,399
Speaker 7: The Twelve Signs, the Twelve Apostles, the animal kingdom.

1108
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,560
Speaker 5: I agree, yeah, But my point is we humans say

1109
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:03,600
that animals are in a kingdom. Okay, animals are in

1110
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:09,479
a kingdom and not birds animals. And the reason why

1111
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,720
I'm saying that is because animals are in a kingdom

1112
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,159
and we are told to pray to God, our father

1113
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:22,079
in heaven. That's a whole idea too that we need

1114
01:12:22,199 --> 01:12:25,439
to talk about. Why is God a father? Well, it's

1115
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,039
because there's a reason why we call God the father.

1116
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,720
But we say that we want God's kingdom to come

1117
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,159
and to his will to be done on the earth

1118
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,319
as it is in heaven. So what you're saying is

1119
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:45,800
that the kingdom is a kingdom of animals. Where do

1120
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,159
you find animals. You find them in a zoo. So

1121
01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:53,680
this is where we get the word zodiac, our zodiac zo.

1122
01:12:54,279 --> 01:12:57,039
It comes from the word zoo looking up in a dictionary.

1123
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,920
Zoo is where you find animals, and there's animals in

1124
01:13:01,039 --> 01:13:06,920
the zodiac. And so the kingdom in heaven is the zodiac.

1125
01:13:07,239 --> 01:13:11,880
It's the animal kingdom and the zoo or zodiac. And

1126
01:13:12,039 --> 01:13:14,840
so what you were doing when you pray the Our

1127
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,239
Father prayer, you say, our Father in heaven, hell will

1128
01:13:19,279 --> 01:13:23,680
be thy name. Let your kingdom come, and let your

1129
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:29,159
will be done on the earth as it is in heaven. Well,

1130
01:13:29,279 --> 01:13:32,640
of course his will is in heaven. If we are

1131
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,920
under Pisces, whether you like it or not, we're going

1132
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:41,800
to have a pisc in age and whatever Pisces represents,

1133
01:13:42,119 --> 01:13:45,159
that's what's going to happen, whether you like it or not.

1134
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,039
And if we are if we happen to be living

1135
01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:51,520
under Taurus and the constellation of Taurus one of the

1136
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,279
twelve signs of the zodiac, the for two one and

1137
01:13:55,319 --> 01:13:58,920
fifty years, the world is going to be living like Taurus.

1138
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,560
So if you want to know what's going to happen

1139
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:06,960
for the next two and fifty years study of strogy,

1140
01:14:07,359 --> 01:14:10,600
and that's what you're going to live.

1141
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,159
Speaker 7: And all the second kings twenty.

1142
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,199
Speaker 5: Three fifty years say it again.

1143
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,159
Speaker 6: Could you shine light on what second second King's twenty

1144
01:14:21,239 --> 01:14:24,079
three five means when he said that he came to

1145
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:27,279
do away with the adulterous priests appointed by the kings

1146
01:14:27,319 --> 01:14:30,520
of Judah who burned incense on the high places of

1147
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,760
the towns of Judah, on those around Jerusalem, and those

1148
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,399
who burn incense to bail to the sun and the moon,

1149
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,359
to the constellations and to the mas a Lot. My

1150
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,279
original question, I was trying to get information on what

1151
01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:46,600
the difference between the Masa Roth and the mas a

1152
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:47,159
Lot were.

1153
01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 5: I heard that if I were you, If I were you,

1154
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:58,000
I would go through the Jewish encyclopedia and look up

1155
01:14:58,079 --> 01:15:01,000
the two words and see what they have to say.

1156
01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:04,680
And then the man de palmer Hall has done a

1157
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:10,359
couple of lectures on that subject of pattern. Yes, the

1158
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,520
pattern is very simple. The sun, the s u n

1159
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:18,159
that comes up every morning. The sun is the basis

1160
01:15:18,319 --> 01:15:22,279
for your life. If there was the sun, you would

1161
01:15:22,359 --> 01:15:25,560
not be here to start with. There would not be

1162
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:30,840
on earth with plants and animals and food. The earth

1163
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,439
would not be here. It would be solid ice, miles

1164
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,920
and miles thicked. So the whole idea is that the

1165
01:15:39,159 --> 01:15:43,840
sun represents life to humans and to the world of

1166
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:48,000
mankind into the world of living things. The sun is

1167
01:15:48,079 --> 01:15:51,239
the reason why you're here. And if the sun does

1168
01:15:51,319 --> 01:15:54,880
not come up, that's what we say. Jesus is God's son.

1169
01:15:55,880 --> 01:16:00,199
Because the word Jesus comes from a Greek wordess s

1170
01:16:00,319 --> 01:16:03,760
o u s, and then from I E s h

1171
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,279
u s. You can jopulate from that j E s

1172
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,119
o u s, and then then we drop it in

1173
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:11,159
Latin to j E.

1174
01:16:11,399 --> 01:16:17,319
Speaker 7: S u s or even Yeah.

1175
01:16:17,359 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 6: Well that's that's the different figure in the Highest I

1176
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,319
think that's what they're calling him when he came into Jerusalem,

1177
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,560
Pusanna in the Highest Yashna.

1178
01:16:27,119 --> 01:16:29,079
Speaker 7: Could you Jordan? Could you expand?

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Speaker 5: Well, I haven't finished yet. Let me finish. Soesies becomes

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Jesus and Jesus is God's son. Well, you ask yourself

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who owns the sun? Does Africa own it? Does Russia

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own it?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: Who owns the sun that comes up every morning? Well,

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obviously you don't own it, and nobody on the earth

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owns the sun, so theoretically we could say that God

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owns the Sun is in heaven. So God's son is

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in heaven with the Father, and so he has twelve helpers.

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We're told he has twelve apostles. God's Son is the

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light of the world. The Bible says Jesus is the

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light of the world. So therefore God's Son is the

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light of the world. Well, of course the Son is

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the light of the world. What lights our world if

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it's not the Son, And so if Jesus is God's son,

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he has twelve followers. That's right, twelve months of the year,

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the twelve signs of the zodiac, and consequently, the whole

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Kingdom of God is astrology. But the Church does not

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want you knowing that because it's a cult. The word

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occult in people's mind is devil and demons and all

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01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,399
the dark stuff. No, the word occult is a Latin

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01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,079
word meaning hidden. So if you put your hand in

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01:17:56,199 --> 01:18:00,079
your pocket, by dictionary definition, your hand is now on

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01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:03,600
our cult hand because it's hidden. It doesn't mean it's

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evil or bad. It just means anything which is hidden. Well,

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let me tell you the one thing that's been hidden

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01:18:09,359 --> 01:18:12,960
more than anything else is the truth. And like the

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01:18:13,039 --> 01:18:16,239
movie says, I want the truth, you can't handle the truth.

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The real truth is that God we understand is in

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the stars, it's in the planets, it's in what we

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call astrology. It's a whole world of knowledge has never

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been properly given to the people to understand. But there's

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now finally coming out, and there's now that making movies,

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and now there's people like what Geia's coming out with

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incredible spiritual, intellectual, superior lectures and teachings and what am

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I trying to say, documentaries there's oh like eight thousand documentaries.

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Are all the hidden wisdom of the world that GAIA

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is now making available to the people of the world.

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With all the top writers, speakers, teachers, astronauts, scientists, all

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the most important people on the planet are now coming

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to GIA and doing lectures on all of their work.

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And so GIA is making it possible for people all

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over the world to come to one place to hear

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the best of the best from everybody. And so that's

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what guya to Jordan. Yeah, my link to my website

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is Jordan Maxwell's show Jordanmaxwellshow dot com. If you go

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to Jordan Maxwell's show, you will see one of the

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first things you see is me on Gya and I'm

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I'm inviting people come with me to Gia. Come and

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join Gia. And it's only twenty dollars for three months

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of eight thousand, more than eight thousand documentaries of all

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the peoples of the world that are that are talking

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about every kind of subject. You can imagine what an

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education it was like six bucks a month and so

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and then I also have I also have a research

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website on there. You can also join that too. The

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two of them are give you everything, guy, as you

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give them eight thousands of documentaries of all kinds of subjects.

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Speaker 7: Say it again, do you plan to read to go

1239
01:20:33,159 --> 01:20:36,680
over the topics you used to cover like I used to.

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Speaker 6: I remember you used to talk about the skulls, Calvary,

1241
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gal Gotha, and the temple, the King, the Temple of Solomon.

1242
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And it would really it would be nice to really

1243
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:53,560
hear you expand on how the cavalry or gal Gotha,

1244
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,520
the cranium is just one big story, as in Plato's

1245
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,399
Allegory of the Cave, It's just man's enlightenment coming out

1246
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:06,079
of darkness into the light again, of understanding and wisdom.

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Speaker 7: Have you ever had a chance to revisit that topic

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and do you plan to expand on it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, As a matter of fact, I've done videos on

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that subject and I'm going to be doing a lot

1251
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,680
more now that I'm with Gaya, and you'll be able

1252
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,760
to see them if you join Guya, you'll be able

1253
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to watch all of my videos along with the other

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eight thousand videos that are already out there. And I'm

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just amazed at the different people that they have been

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able to find and get them to come here and

1257
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do their work and videotape everything they're doing, and it's

1258
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all there for anybody. So there's a whole world of

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knowledge that people are just not aware of. And if

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I get started on any one subject, just so convoluted.

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The world we live in is so well connected behind

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the scenes, your laws, your government, your banking, your military.

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Speaker 6: Do you honestly think this is all going? I mean,

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we are we heading towards some type of transhumanism? Are

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we heading back to the stars? Where do you feel?

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01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,239
Where does Jordan Maxwell feel we are going?

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Speaker 5: And I think that we are going toward artificial intelligence

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and that the human family as we know our fellow

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humans on the earth, people on the Earth, ultimately we

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are going to be transformed into a different kind of

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life form on the Earth. We're no longer going to

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have grandmothers and grandparents and marriage and all the ways

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that we look at life today and we understand each

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other's life. We all have fathers and mothers and children

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and grandchildren, and we all have the reason ideas about life. Uh,

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and this is what the human world is all about. Well,

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I'm telling you what is coming is that we have

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we have higher intelligences on this earth that see us

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as an experiment, and now they're preparing us to go

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into a whole different kind of human existence. We're no

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longer going to be free to think and question anything.

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They're they're connecting computers all over the world are being

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connected with your brain. They're taking they're taking they're taking

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01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,680
tissue out of the brain and connecting them to diodes

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and little high technology in computers so that the computer

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will eventually be thinking like you and they could talk

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with you, and then eventually it will take over your life.

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So they don't have to pay you a large sum

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of money to work for them. The computer will work

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as long as there's electricity. So I see that human

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family as it exists today is slowly but surely being

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totally destroyed off the earth and preparation for a new

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kind of civilization which is coming that has nothing to

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do with anything you can imagine. It's referred to as

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the New World Order, and it's as coming because of

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the Age of Aquarius. And people say the Age of

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Aquarius is going to be a wonderful time when the

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world will be wash clean and there'll be freedom and

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liberty and all kinds of wonderful things in the Age

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of Aquarius. Well, I got news for you. You need

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to go back and look at the Age of Aquarius

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and look at the symbols and what the Age of

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01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,319
Aquarius is all about. It is not going to be pretty.

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01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:48,479
It's going to be a frightening time. And you need

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01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,359
to understand that the coming age is going to be

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01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:56,920
absolutely frightening in relation to what you call human. We

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are going to be totally transformed out of being human. Yeah,

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it's an incredible story of what Age of Aquarius really

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actually means and what it's going to do to us.

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Speaker 3: Have to do a whole a whole episode just dedicated

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to transhumanism and technology and hope you know the video

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gamings and stuff, Halo.

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Speaker 7: All that stuff, the Oculus Rift.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep, the gaming headsets and stuff.

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Speaker 5: Jordan.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you coming on hanging out with his brother.

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01:25:34,279 --> 01:25:36,359
We'll do it again, you know, we will do it.

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Do it, We'll do it, We'll do it. I I

1319
01:25:41,319 --> 01:25:44,159
appreciate it. I'm definitely looking forward to some of the

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old work coming back out again with fresh video, fresh

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teaching on some of the old work where you can

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01:25:49,359 --> 01:25:52,199
actually go in and not just talk about the mass,

1323
01:25:52,279 --> 01:25:55,359
but sit there and break it down with scripture and context,

1324
01:25:55,399 --> 01:25:57,000
because I know you do that. Oh so well, I'm

1325
01:25:57,039 --> 01:25:58,279
ready for the new stuff to come.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what I'm doing. I'm getting ready to

1327
01:26:01,319 --> 01:26:03,800
put a lot of new stuff out there, and I'm

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01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,880
putting it on my research society too. And but there's

1329
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only so much my my webman can do in eight

1330
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,279
hours and in one day, and so he's always behind.

1331
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,640
But but we're putting a lot of information on my

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01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:22,600
research society, so you need to join that also. Again.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Yeah, I appreciate you, Jordan, Thank you so much.

1334
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For coming on. Man, we'll talk later, Jordan Maxwell, Ladies

1335
01:26:33,039 --> 01:26:37,159
and gentlemen, there the man.

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Speaker 7: The man is a wealth of knowledge, just beautiful, beautiful insight.

1337
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Truly cherish him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, anything you want, you want to add that that

1339
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you didn't that you wanted to kind of touch on.

1340
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was really really just wanting him.

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Speaker 3: To, uh experience difference between the Yeah, I really.

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Speaker 7: Wanted him to.

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Speaker 6: And then there I saw a comment in there where

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they were trying to find the verse Second Kings twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was trying to find that when

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my computer cut off.

1347
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Speaker 7: Man right, right, right.

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Speaker 6: So the thing is that it's there's a translation a

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01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,560
discrepancy there, right, So if you translated in ancient I

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01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:27,600
think it's an ancient Hebrew, the term comes up as

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mas a lot instead of starry instead of stars or constellation.

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Speaker 3: All right, And what is the descripture Second Kings?

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Speaker 7: You said, Second Kings twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Second Kings, Chapter twenty three d No, diverse.

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Speaker 7: It's just twenty three. I haven't pulled up right here,

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twenty three.

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Speaker 3: To five five Okay, okay, okay, I don't see mas

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a lot there is it after that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if you look up planets under translation, it expands

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on it by saying it's the signs of the zodiac,

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the mas A loth or the mas A lot. And

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the reason I'm bringing this up is and I was

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hoping I can get some closure on this. But there's

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these two narratives, right, Okay, he's approaching it from this

1365
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:37,600
astro theological narrative. Well, where the stars are in essence,

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these celestial divine bodies, right, And that's the astro theological right,

1367
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the twelve Apostles, the constellations, the houses. Jesus is the

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rising and the setting of the sun, the sun of

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the horizon.

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Speaker 5: His horrors.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you go on and on and on with

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his knowledge that he shared.

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Speaker 6: But then you have other people who think, well, historically

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the Bible wants us to interpret the Bible.

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Speaker 7: As signs and wonders and signs of the time. Yeah,

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and you know, interpreting it as definite calendar.

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Speaker 3: That's our calendar. That's what that's what God put that

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stuff there for. Yeah, to see the energies and all

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the all the stuff that's going on, so that you

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can prepare everything when you're gonna plant, Like literally, when

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you're going to plant, what was right, even spiritually when

1382
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,359
you're starting something by the new moons, like spiritually physically

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everything goes by the moon and the sun and the planets.

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And I mean that that's essentially the story that that

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the scripture is telling. Definitely, And I get what you're saying,

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is it is it uhlogical or is it just I don't.

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Speaker 5: Think it is.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it is. And that's where I can

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have the conversation with Jordan or Santos. And I'm intrigued

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by the astro theology because essentially it it is telling

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his story, the story of Christ. This is I mean

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the the magi, which is the wise man who followed

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the stars, were the first to arrive at the birth

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of Jesus. They knew where he was going to be born,

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at the exact location by following his story written of

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in the stars. So yeah, I mean all the Hebrews

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everything was about the stars, like all the constellations and stuff.

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They're all mentioned of in a good way as a calendar.

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And I believe it. I believe it's telling his story.

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And there's other there's other work. There's other work besides

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01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,319
some of these guys in astro theology that mean that

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are that are that are teaching that? You know, you

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could if you.

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Speaker 6: Interpret the Bible in an even in a different context.

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We before the Gregorian calendar or even the Halil calendar,

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which is the Jewish calendar, right that they've enacted for

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so long, we used to read the times and the

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months through something called avive, which was the reading of

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01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:12,359
the barley. And that's how a lot of uh, that's

1410
01:31:12,399 --> 01:31:14,359
how a lot of this was deciphered back then, is

1411
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,039
is and also by the reading of the of the

1412
01:31:17,359 --> 01:31:20,800
of the moon. So the feast of trumpets was deciphered

1413
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,920
as the time when Jesus was born.

1414
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:27,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everything was according to the feast.

1415
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:27,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1416
01:31:28,199 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 3: Even the Testament is.

1417
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 6: When you show below the trumpet the moon, the moon

1418
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,960
slither above the barley. I mean, all of these had

1419
01:31:37,039 --> 01:31:40,039
these deep, rich meanings that a lot of people have

1420
01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:43,119
been disconnected to because I mean, we dogmatically read the Bible.

1421
01:31:43,159 --> 01:31:44,800
We only see it in a certain light, but we

1422
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,640
don't read the historical contexts. So how do we really

1423
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:48,920
know what's going on in the Bible.

1424
01:31:49,039 --> 01:31:49,319
Speaker 5: We don't.

1425
01:31:49,359 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 6: Actually, we're disconnected from the historical narrative, you know, and

1426
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:57,039
then we're being we're being fed this astro theological narrative,

1427
01:31:57,359 --> 01:31:59,399
which is beautiful. It should shines a lot of light

1428
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,520
on it. But that's just one angle. There's so many angers.

1429
01:32:02,199 --> 01:32:04,079
Speaker 3: Right down the middle, bro. And you know that with

1430
01:32:04,359 --> 01:32:07,159
all truths, You know that, with all information that it's

1431
01:32:07,239 --> 01:32:09,399
usually somewhere right down the middle. And that's why I

1432
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,359
entertained both sides, you know. That's why we'll talk about

1433
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:17,239
the astro theological aspect of it, and then we'll talk

1434
01:32:17,239 --> 01:32:21,399
about the history historical aspect or or or of Jesus

1435
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,520
and in his life and the person that he was

1436
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:28,000
and things like that, and how history relates to us

1437
01:32:28,039 --> 01:32:31,319
and how he's telling our story. And it's it's somewhere

1438
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:32,239
right down the middle.

1439
01:32:32,279 --> 01:32:32,399
Speaker 5: Man.

1440
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,079
Speaker 3: You know, you can't say that the Western Church has

1441
01:32:36,079 --> 01:32:38,760
it figured out. Then you can't say that that, you know,

1442
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,520
Jordan Maxwell has it all figured out. And I don't

1443
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,640
want to talk down upon his work because it seems

1444
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,159
like I'm doing that at the end of every showing

1445
01:32:46,399 --> 01:32:47,039
up some things.

1446
01:32:47,119 --> 01:32:50,159
Speaker 6: But we've talked about this where it's like you can't

1447
01:32:50,199 --> 01:32:53,760
really completely discredit one work or the other. You really

1448
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,640
need to be able to appreciate it holistically, to put

1449
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:01,159
it all together to understand the history and the creation

1450
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,239
and and and are where we've been and where we

1451
01:33:04,399 --> 01:33:05,880
have we are going as humans.

1452
01:33:06,399 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 7: And I appreciate his work. I've been following them for

1453
01:33:09,079 --> 01:33:09,600
so long.

1454
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 6: I just I just really hope that us as truth seekers,

1455
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,600
we don't research so much material and and get stuck

1456
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,359
in these theories and concept that that it becomes dogma.

1457
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:25,199
We need to continually refreshing and continue spin to all

1458
01:33:25,279 --> 01:33:27,560
these different perspectives so that we don't get stuck in

1459
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,520
dogma the way a church does. And I really in

1460
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,239
that in that sense, I always want to be learning.

1461
01:33:33,279 --> 01:33:36,039
I always want to be open to everything. And is

1462
01:33:36,119 --> 01:33:39,880
the markable wise man to entertain something as as you know,

1463
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,239
as truth? Right, I completely accepting it.

1464
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,359
Speaker 3: I was thinking the other day and and really like

1465
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:51,239
honestly thinking, like why it's my podcast thriving right now?

1466
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:55,640
Like why is my inbox littered with messages of people's

1467
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,800
lives who have been changed by listening to these conversations

1468
01:34:00,119 --> 01:34:03,159
your voice right now, Leo, Like this conversation. Why are

1469
01:34:03,279 --> 01:34:07,199
people's lives being changed by us being open about this stuff?

1470
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,359
And I've come to the realization I had a revelation

1471
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,840
from it I felt like I was asking God, what

1472
01:34:13,039 --> 01:34:14,359
is it? And I felt like the Lord told me

1473
01:34:15,079 --> 01:34:18,319
there's a difference between the Jordan Maxwell's. There's a difference

1474
01:34:18,359 --> 01:34:22,800
between and the Lord showed me Michael Heiser, right, there's

1475
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,000
a difference between me and Michael Heiser. And as far

1476
01:34:25,039 --> 01:34:28,520
as on the book smarts and applying the knowledge and

1477
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,359
all that stuff, He's got me under the books right.

1478
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,279
Everybody's needed, each part of the other bodies needed. But

1479
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:38,239
sets what sets me apart from him and what and

1480
01:34:38,359 --> 01:34:40,760
from Jordan Maxwell is that we apply this stuff to

1481
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:44,359
our lives and we're experiencing this stuff like this, this

1482
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,520
is part of our spirituality, like this is real for us.

1483
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,680
This isn't a theory. We're not sitting there debating doctrine.

1484
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,960
We're like, we're wanting to know so we can go

1485
01:34:53,159 --> 01:34:56,439
out under the stars and make contact with God with

1486
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,760
the Holy Spirit. We want to know this deep stuff

1487
01:34:59,079 --> 01:35:02,319
so that in prayer will know how to pray, will

1488
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,680
know how to see results when we pray. All of

1489
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,560
this stuff is applied to our spirituality and it's not

1490
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,199
just theory for us anymore. Man and people. People are

1491
01:35:11,239 --> 01:35:12,079
resonated with that.

1492
01:35:12,279 --> 01:35:15,399
Speaker 6: To experience it because I was even talking to my

1493
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,319
partner a while ago about how I just I feel

1494
01:35:18,399 --> 01:35:22,000
off sometimes I feel so affected by by things sometimes.

1495
01:35:22,119 --> 01:35:24,760
And I was telling her, what about this mercury retrograde?

1496
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,239
What about on first we had this? You know this

1497
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:31,960
this this this partial eclipse. You know what about Venus

1498
01:35:32,079 --> 01:35:34,960
that's in retrograde? You know, there's this can't just be

1499
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,439
a concept where it's like, oh, it's in retrograde, nothing's happening.

1500
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,159
There's definitely an effect that these solar bodies have on

1501
01:35:42,279 --> 01:35:46,760
our on our oric and mircabo and our energetic bodies,

1502
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:48,800
and we're feeling it. And that's probably why we're feeling

1503
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:52,000
the way we do sometimes. So I can't completely discredit

1504
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:56,640
everything and and say no to it. I aggress I

1505
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:58,560
agree with you completely. You know, we need to be

1506
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,560
able to not just practice sit in theory, but we

1507
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,840
also need to be able to walk the walk, not

1508
01:36:04,039 --> 01:36:06,640
just talk to talk. And and I agree with you,

1509
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:11,039
Michael Heiser and all these theorists, uh, you know, they're

1510
01:36:11,079 --> 01:36:14,439
putting into their they're theorizing, they're having these cores and

1511
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,880
they stop there. I want you to go out into nature.

1512
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,600
I want to see you being affected by the elements

1513
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,960
or the stars. I want to see you experiencing and

1514
01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:26,680
enacting what you know. I don't just want to hear

1515
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:30,319
you be a voice, you know, to these theories.

1516
01:36:30,399 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 7: I agree.

1517
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 6: And that's why I appreciate your work so much, Derek,

1518
01:36:33,399 --> 01:36:36,119
is because in everything you do, you're not just having

1519
01:36:36,159 --> 01:36:38,840
a podcast. You're not just talking. You're experiencing these things.

1520
01:36:39,239 --> 01:36:41,479
You know, when you talked about going out into nature

1521
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:46,439
and trying psilocybin, the mother Teachers, you know, the Golden Teachers,

1522
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,880
you know, going out into the stars and signaling ets

1523
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,880
with your laser games. I mean, there's there's got to

1524
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,880
be uh theory and there's got to be practice.

1525
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. And and what we're doing is we're trying

1526
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:03,079
to prove their theories. Man, that they're not doing I

1527
01:37:03,159 --> 01:37:05,680
think Jordan did years ago, though at least his story says,

1528
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,239
you know, say he did, and those those stories are

1529
01:37:08,279 --> 01:37:10,560
what kind of won me over, you know, building and

1530
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,640
you know, well he went out and made contact and things,

1531
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,319
you know, those stories, But we don't we don't get

1532
01:37:15,399 --> 01:37:17,920
much of that. Maybe we will on Gaya. But I

1533
01:37:18,039 --> 01:37:21,960
watched the Gaya presentation and his first one that he

1534
01:37:22,039 --> 01:37:26,039
did with George Norri and it was it was very

1535
01:37:26,079 --> 01:37:30,359
similar to what we just We just hopefully, hopefully there's

1536
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,399
a new vigor, like a new fervency for him to

1537
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:36,039
kind of get that old material out that he can't

1538
01:37:36,079 --> 01:37:38,600
promote anymore. Many of you guys know that he went

1539
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,680
into a lawsuit. We don't know the details, but someone

1540
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,520
else has the rights to his work and I can't

1541
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,439
promote his old work anymore, so he doesn't really he

1542
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,000
can't really go into detail about it. So I think

1543
01:37:50,039 --> 01:37:53,119
with Gaya he's gonna begin to do that. But all

1544
01:37:53,199 --> 01:37:55,079
of that stuff, man, it's it's about before.

1545
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,199
Speaker 6: You connected the video, I was really I was talking

1546
01:37:57,239 --> 01:38:00,199
about how like I really wanted him to go over

1547
01:38:00,399 --> 01:38:03,199
all of these concepts he had gone over long ago.

1548
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:08,520
I mean you're talking about stuff like the twelve Negative Confessions, uh,

1549
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:13,439
the Sun, the Moon, the twelve Step program, Good and Evil,

1550
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:17,640
the Trivium, I mean all these all these different topics

1551
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:22,000
and concepts, Skull the Skull and Golgatha, you know, the

1552
01:38:22,079 --> 01:38:27,319
mazar Masala. He resummarizes everything in the way he has

1553
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,079
already done historically.

1554
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 7: And I agree with you with with what he did

1555
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,119
on Guyamp. He's just reiterating everything he's already said.

1556
01:38:36,199 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 6: I really want things to be refreshed, rehashed, and expanded

1557
01:38:41,119 --> 01:38:45,159
on and then interrelated and interconnected with everything that's going

1558
01:38:45,239 --> 01:38:46,359
on presently in our.

1559
01:38:46,359 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 7: Life, you know, with this the thinning of the veil.

1560
01:38:50,039 --> 01:38:53,399
Speaker 6: You know, everybody in this day and age, even in

1561
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:58,159
hip hop culture, it's talking about you know, spirituality and

1562
01:38:58,319 --> 01:39:02,239
consciousness and the stars and spirituality.

1563
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:04,039
Speaker 7: And I really want him.

1564
01:39:04,199 --> 01:39:07,119
Speaker 6: And what do you expect. It's a it's a generational gap.

1565
01:39:07,199 --> 01:39:09,760
You can't expect someone to do everything. This is where

1566
01:39:10,199 --> 01:39:12,960
the rains have been passed to you people like exactly.

1567
01:39:13,079 --> 01:39:15,960
That's connected all exactly, and to bring it about and

1568
01:39:16,119 --> 01:39:18,560
refresh it in a very interesting lot the way you're

1569
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,560
doing so. I can't expect him to do everything, but

1570
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:24,720
it would be nice to really hear him start to

1571
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,039
refresh and rehash all his theories and just just kind

1572
01:39:28,079 --> 01:39:29,319
of have you know, an update to it.

1573
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what That's what some people are saying in

1574
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,720
the in the comments. You know that we're just picking

1575
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,600
up the torch where he left off and kind of

1576
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,439
running with it and bringing his work. And he may

1577
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,720
never transition over to that way. It may it may

1578
01:39:42,279 --> 01:39:44,319
pick up with us. You never know, man, I hope,

1579
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,199
I hope he uh he does. I hope we get

1580
01:39:47,279 --> 01:39:49,720
some more awesome work from Jordan. You know, I think

1581
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,319
we will. But but it is up to us. And

1582
01:39:52,399 --> 01:39:54,520
it's not about just having a theory and and and

1583
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:56,920
just sitting there talking about the Bible. See, that's what

1584
01:39:57,039 --> 01:39:59,880
Paul talked about in Corinthians. It talks about like how

1585
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:03,319
these Pharisees and Sadducees would come with the it's just

1586
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,520
the elegancy and the wisdom of words, and they knew

1587
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,479
all the right words, and they're very well spoken and

1588
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,600
trained in the universities and all that stuff. But Paul said,

1589
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:14,560
I come with power and demonstration in the.

1590
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,279
Speaker 7: Holy Ghost demonstration.

1591
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 3: That's so. So we're not just like a charismatic church

1592
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,159
in the South where that's all they are is just

1593
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,399
charismania and stuff that's going on. We kind of blend

1594
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,319
the two. We try we try to balance the two

1595
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:33,840
with the knowledge, with the information, with the studying as

1596
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:36,359
well as the spirituality that goes along with it, so

1597
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,439
we'll know how to act in the spirit realm, how

1598
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,760
to interact with the energies, and and and we can

1599
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,239
prove it, but then we do it.

1600
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 7: We do it, and your.

1601
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 6: Audience makes you accountable for everything you say. Do an experience.

1602
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,319
So when you're out and about experiencing these things and

1603
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,720
you're talking about them, it's interesting because your audience is

1604
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:04,199
not just dead, it's alive. It's it's it's like iron

1605
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:08,079
Sharpen's Iron. They're they're refining you as you help them

1606
01:41:08,239 --> 01:41:12,199
understand concepts, and it's and it's it's not a monologue

1607
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,359
in the sense that it goes one way.

1608
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 7: It's a dialogue.

1609
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,359
Speaker 6: It's it's dualistic in the sense that what I love

1610
01:41:19,399 --> 01:41:21,880
about this podcast is that you go to your audience

1611
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:22,880
and say, what do you want?

1612
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,079
Speaker 7: What do you guys think? Can we get questions?

1613
01:41:25,159 --> 01:41:27,359
Speaker 6: You guys can call in, So I mean, that's one

1614
01:41:27,359 --> 01:41:29,800
of the things I really want to emphasize to every

1615
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,399
it's all twenty one viewers that are watching right now,

1616
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:37,079
don't ever hesitate to call in. Please call in, leave

1617
01:41:37,239 --> 01:41:41,359
questions in the chat because in order for the concept,

1618
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:45,560
the dialogue to continue and to be more rich in

1619
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:49,079
understanding and to achieve more in the moment, we need

1620
01:41:49,279 --> 01:41:52,520
good questions from you guys. It's not just a monologue.

1621
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,880
It's not just Derek telling you guys, one thing, interact

1622
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,800
with him, take the take charge, don't be afraid to

1623
01:41:58,880 --> 01:41:59,159
call in.

1624
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:05,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, it's it's so funny that I've been, you know,

1625
01:42:06,079 --> 01:42:09,159
reading these messages and hearing what people are saying, and

1626
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,600
one thing that people are saying, and I understand, like

1627
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,600
this podcast is helping a lot of unchurched believers, like

1628
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,439
people who have faith in God. And they might even

1629
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,399
call themselves believers. They believe in God, they believe in

1630
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,680
in Jesus, but that may stop there. There's nothing else

1631
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,880
with Christianity that resonates with them. But they have faith

1632
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,079
in Christ, you know what I'm saying, a faith in

1633
01:42:32,119 --> 01:42:34,000
a higher power that they don't even care what you

1634
01:42:34,159 --> 01:42:38,800
call it. And so I understand that maybe this podcast

1635
01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:42,279
essentially it's church is the church for people who don't

1636
01:42:42,319 --> 01:42:44,520
go to church. It's because what the church is supposed

1637
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,680
to be a community. It's not supposed to be something

1638
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:48,960
that you just go and you watch a play. When

1639
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,760
I quit going to church is when I felt like

1640
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:54,119
I was going to watch a production and they give

1641
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me an itinerary and I read it. Okay, the offerings

1642
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,359
coming next, Okay, there's gonna be a short skit. Okay,

1643
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:01,319
next is gonna this And I was like, man, we've

1644
01:43:01,359 --> 01:43:03,439
just shown up to watch this stuff. And I was like, man,

1645
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:07,319
this isn't organic, this isn't living and breathing of something

1646
01:43:07,359 --> 01:43:09,479
that we're supposed to be a part of. So I

1647
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:13,000
wanted to make sure that what we're doing is something

1648
01:43:13,039 --> 01:43:16,439
that's thriving. And all the messages are saying. One thing

1649
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,800
stood out too is say they love it. You know,

1650
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:22,800
most people don't even like the guests that I have.

1651
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:24,920
They just like when the guest leaves and then we

1652
01:43:25,039 --> 01:43:27,520
get to talk and I get to kind of share

1653
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,520
some final thoughts and stuff. But from that point and

1654
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,399
then when I go into prayer, a lot of people

1655
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:34,760
saying that they're really touched by the prayers that I

1656
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,600
do at the end of the show. And so I

1657
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,640
want to make sure that after every show, even a

1658
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,079
show that kind of gets wavy and I had Jordan

1659
01:43:41,159 --> 01:43:43,520
on some good stuff for a while, then it got

1660
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,960
kind of negative and stuff. So but even though I

1661
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:47,680
don't care where the show goes, I want to end

1662
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,840
it on a note. I want to pray for people.

1663
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:51,960
So I'm going to say a prayer and I'll let

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01:43:52,039 --> 01:43:55,520
you prayer blessing as well. Man, whatever you're feeling, and

1665
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:59,079
I feel like that whatever we are going through, even

1666
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:01,920
if we're dealing with some stuff, I think we can

1667
01:44:02,039 --> 01:44:04,720
address that in prayer that so that we can we

1668
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:08,439
can see what other people are going through through similar things.

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01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: So whatever you want to pray for, I'll let you

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01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,560
do that too. But I'll go ahead and pray. I've

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01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,880
been getting a lot of inboxes, man, for people struggling.

1673
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,560
It's twenty eighteen. Man, it's not for us to face

1674
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,199
this thing head on. It's not for us to live

1675
01:44:21,279 --> 01:44:24,760
our dreams and get the reach down deep and grab

1676
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,760
those visions and breathe life into them. So we're going

1677
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,920
to do that. And people who are struggling with addiction

1678
01:44:31,119 --> 01:44:34,119
and depression and lots of things. And there's some people

1679
01:44:34,199 --> 01:44:37,399
out there who say that they're struggling with entities and

1680
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,560
demonic oppression that they feel like they can never be

1681
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,119
free from. And I want to address that. We're going

1682
01:44:42,199 --> 01:44:45,239
to pray. So whatever you're feeling, whatever it's going through

1683
01:44:45,279 --> 01:44:49,039
your head, and you need some some you need some help,

1684
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:51,039
we want to ask the help Her, which is the

1685
01:44:51,079 --> 01:44:53,560
Holy Spirit, for help. And I'm just going to pray

1686
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,640
over you and we're gonna end the show out. I'll

1687
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,720
pray then, Leo, you go ahead, Okay. Definitely a bunch

1688
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,399
of people even in the chat right now, and and

1689
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:02,920
all of you guys who are listening to all you

1690
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,439
guys who are watching, this is for you, join with us.

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01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:08,479
I'm gonna say, Father, God, I thank you for your presence. God.

1692
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:12,000
I think I'm thankful that you let us see another year,

1693
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,520
and that you've blessed us and you've called us for

1694
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,319
such a time as this. God, I'm asking you right

1695
01:45:17,359 --> 01:45:19,920
now just to move upon the audience and everybody listening

1696
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:23,760
under the sound of my voice. Just stir within them God,

1697
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:27,359
your spirit, the quickening of the Holy Spirit. Let them

1698
01:45:27,399 --> 01:45:29,760
feel that they're not alone, that you love them, and

1699
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,640
that you've called them for a purpose and a reason. God,

1700
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,000
and you have not forgotten about them. You have not

1701
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:41,000
given up on anyone. You have long suffering God in

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01:45:41,079 --> 01:45:44,119
this woman. The scripture says that we're going through tribulation,

1703
01:45:44,199 --> 01:45:46,319
and we're going through through terror and all kinds of

1704
01:45:46,319 --> 01:45:48,720
stuff on the left and on the right. God, you

1705
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:50,800
said that you are near to the broken hearted. So

1706
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:52,880
I just speak to the broken hearted right now, those

1707
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,279
who are who are distraught, I just pray for peace

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01:45:55,399 --> 01:45:58,199
right now to be sent right now. In Jesus' name,

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01:45:58,279 --> 01:45:59,760
I thank you for peace. God, I ask you to

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01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,039
move right now. Move upon them, God, from the top

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01:46:03,039 --> 01:46:04,920
of their heads to the souls in their feet. Break

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01:46:05,039 --> 01:46:07,760
up anything that's been stagnant, all that stagnant water. Get

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01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,560
it out of there. And you said that out of

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01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,359
there our belly shall flow rivers of living water. God,

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01:46:13,399 --> 01:46:15,199
I thank you for that. Right now. I claim it

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01:46:15,319 --> 01:46:18,039
over my friends right now, rivers of living water, newness

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01:46:18,119 --> 01:46:23,279
of life, all the old out the window, just to

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01:46:23,359 --> 01:46:29,680
release the old, breathing a new life for us. Holy Spirit,

1719
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,000
we thank you for the life that you animate all

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01:46:33,079 --> 01:46:37,439
objects and you're dwelling with us. In Jesus name, I

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01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:41,520
thank you for peace, power and understanding. Spirit of confusion,

1722
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,239
I bind you right now. People are being confused. They

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01:46:44,239 --> 01:46:46,399
don't know which way to go. They don't know which

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01:46:46,399 --> 01:46:48,359
way is up, down, left to right. They don't know.

1725
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:51,479
They try to ask questions the people they see on

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01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:55,119
the internet and friends, and nobody knows which direction to go. God,

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01:46:55,159 --> 01:46:57,159
I'm asking for you to send peace right now in

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01:46:57,239 --> 01:47:01,359
a place of confusion. That Babylonian spirit be rebuked. In

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01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:06,880
Jesus Name, Peace, be still, quiet, stillness in the storm,

1730
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:11,680
Jesus Mighty Name, Amen.

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01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:20,399
Speaker 6: Family, Father. I asked for encouragement. I asked for endurance

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01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:24,359
for this community. I asked us that you allow us

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01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:28,680
to be of like mindedness, of the same attitude of

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01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:33,359
mind towards each other as Christ had. I asked him,

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01:47:33,399 --> 01:47:37,680
the Father, that you allow us to walk on this

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01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:44,720
path towards You, towards enlightenment, towards abundance and encouragement. I

1737
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:46,600
asked that you allow us to live in the fruits

1738
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:51,960
of the spirit, humbleness, human humility, love towards each other.

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01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:57,399
I asked that twenty eighteen be just a beautiful, transformative

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01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:02,159
year for everyone, that they get their lives in order

1741
01:48:03,039 --> 01:48:05,720
that they accomplish their goals they need, Father, God, that

1742
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:09,600
you give them the strength to find that light and

1743
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,319
that encouragement and that new sense of direction in them,

1744
01:48:13,199 --> 01:48:16,119
so that they have the power to overcome whatever traps,

1745
01:48:16,279 --> 01:48:21,359
mental traps, whatever confusion, whatever roadblocks, whatever ethereal chords are

1746
01:48:21,359 --> 01:48:24,760
holding them back, that they break free from these chains

1747
01:48:25,359 --> 01:48:30,840
of stagnation, that you spark creativity in them, that you

1748
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:36,319
awaken that fire inside of them, that kundalini that rises

1749
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:40,960
to the throne, the holy seat and their pineal gland.

1750
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:45,960
That their eyes just open up with clarity so that

1751
01:48:46,079 --> 01:48:48,600
they can see clearly what they need to do to

1752
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:55,119
transform the world, transform themselves. And that you just continually

1753
01:48:55,199 --> 01:48:59,640
keep us grounded, Father God, because we know we're not grounded,

1754
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:03,800
we're so easily pushed over by anything. And uh, that

1755
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,880
you you just continually guide Derek Father in his work,

1756
01:49:08,119 --> 01:49:11,520
in his ministry and his studies and his truth seeking,

1757
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:16,720
his podcasts, and that Father God, that you, uh you

1758
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:19,800
continue to pour in these these supporters for him.

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01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,600
Speaker 7: In his mission, Father God.

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01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:26,039
Speaker 6: And also ask Father God about this, this this whole

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01:49:26,119 --> 01:49:30,520
civil war between between brothers, that you bring calm and

1762
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:34,880
unity because right now, Father God, it seems like this confusion,

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01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:40,159
this vigilance is tearing apart the community, Father God, that

1764
01:49:40,319 --> 01:49:42,880
you open their eyes to see that we're all brothers,

1765
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:45,319
we're all on the same journey. We're all facing the

1766
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:51,199
same enemy here, and and that enemy is ignorance. That

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01:49:51,399 --> 01:49:53,520
enemy is darkness, and we need to fill it with

1768
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:55,560
light with your life, Father God, so that we can

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01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:58,279
see clearly, so we can love others instead of judging,

1770
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:02,279
instead of holding down, and so we can break through

1771
01:50:02,319 --> 01:50:06,800
these these shackles, these fetters of ignorance, as Plato says,

1772
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,239
we can escape that cave of ignorance and enter into

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01:50:09,279 --> 01:50:12,880
a new light. Father God, we thank you, heavenly Father,

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01:50:13,079 --> 01:50:15,920
for everything you do. And we thank you Derek and

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01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,720
the community in your heavenly named father.

1776
01:50:19,359 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 3: Blessings man, awesome praier Leo, thank you, brother, thank you

1777
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:24,199
for the blessings.

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01:50:24,279 --> 01:50:25,720
Speaker 7: Man who.

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01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 3: Good stuff, man, good stuff. This is what this is

1780
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:32,119
what people have been waiting for. Man, Like there's people

1781
01:50:32,119 --> 01:50:34,880
who listen to this show and they're waiting for that part.

1782
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:40,640
We got to take a step further. There's something else

1783
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:42,720
that that's got to happen. There's something else that's got

1784
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:47,159
to come. I'm just trying to get some materials together.

1785
01:50:47,359 --> 01:50:50,279
I don't know what it is I'm feeling. I don't

1786
01:50:50,279 --> 01:50:54,640
know if it's a school or just an online fellowship

1787
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,680
that we have to come together. Because people have giftings,

1788
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:00,680
people have talents and abilities that they need to hone

1789
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,279
in on. They have questions that they want to ask

1790
01:51:03,359 --> 01:51:05,399
and not even in front of an audience, Like they

1791
01:51:05,399 --> 01:51:07,640
don't want audience I know I do private work and

1792
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:09,560
stuff like that, but I'm talking about it as far

1793
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:13,359
as community is concerned, Leo. So if the Lord gives

1794
01:51:13,399 --> 01:51:15,560
you anything, man, I'm feel in some type of school

1795
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,039
of the Spirit, whether it's one night a week where

1796
01:51:18,079 --> 01:51:20,800
we come together and on zo. I don't even know

1797
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:22,880
if it has to be broadcast live. I think it's

1798
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,600
just a personal training thing that we need to do.

1799
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,760
There's people I talk to who are impaths who deal

1800
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,000
with spirits on a daily basis, and they don't know

1801
01:51:31,119 --> 01:51:33,760
how to interact with it. It's getting the best of them,

1802
01:51:34,159 --> 01:51:35,840
and we need we need to address this stuff.

1803
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:36,039
Speaker 5: Man.

1804
01:51:36,079 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 6: You know, I agree, and I feel like I agree

1805
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:44,880
with you every every Historically in these podcasts and working

1806
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:49,079
with you, I've noticed that there's so many gifted, smart

1807
01:51:49,239 --> 01:51:53,520
people with so much rich knowledge to share, and you know,

1808
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,159
it's kind of just not being shared because you know,

1809
01:51:56,239 --> 01:51:58,680
they don't have a platform for their voice.

1810
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 7: They don't have a four the way you do.

1811
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:05,319
Speaker 6: And I really do feel twenty eighteen should be a platform,

1812
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:08,880
a forum to bring about the community, to have them

1813
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:13,399
share their opinions and you being that what you being

1814
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:16,159
that person that allows the community to speak out as well,

1815
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:21,439
you know, equally like mindedness, you know, as as it says,

1816
01:52:22,359 --> 01:52:27,479
in one spirit, one mind in Christ. And I hope

1817
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:31,960
that that opens up and I think I would definitely

1818
01:52:32,039 --> 01:52:32,600
join in on that.

1819
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 7: That's something I want to you.

1820
01:52:35,239 --> 01:52:43,079
Speaker 3: Carolyn Adam, Starced Bay, Chris and Nicole Bars, Christy Lee, Dano. Man,

1821
01:52:43,199 --> 01:52:45,960
we have so many people who are leaders in their

1822
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,279
own right and then they're and some of those people

1823
01:52:48,279 --> 01:52:50,960
are stepping out testing the waters and they're learning, and

1824
01:52:51,079 --> 01:52:53,039
it's so awesome to see. Uh.

1825
01:52:53,279 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 6: Man, I'm getting these chills right now because Daniel, you know,

1826
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:58,600
Dano's out there in the jungles right now on some

1827
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,359
island looking for enlightenment and nature.

1828
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 7: Right now.

1829
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 6: Man, you're doing these podcasts twenty eighteen minutes to get

1830
01:53:07,119 --> 01:53:09,840
an amazing year. And I have a feeling you're gonna

1831
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,880
you're gonna you're gonna break through some breakthrough a lot.

1832
01:53:13,119 --> 01:53:15,399
Speaker 7: There's gonna be some beautiful things that are about your

1833
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:16,319
your movement.

1834
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 3: We have we have to we have to make a

1835
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,920
community where people can test their gifts and see that.

1836
01:53:21,079 --> 01:53:22,760
That's what I was raised up in. We went to

1837
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:27,840
meetings and home group meetings and sessions where people could

1838
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,960
test their gifts, test out the prophetic giftings, and test

1839
01:53:31,039 --> 01:53:33,720
out being able to hear the voice of the Holy

1840
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:37,359
Spirit and have confidence to speak it out. And people

1841
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:40,039
being empathic, you're able to pick up on spirits and

1842
01:53:40,199 --> 01:53:43,279
what's on people and around people, and not just to

1843
01:53:43,359 --> 01:53:45,119
pick it up on it just for it to be

1844
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:48,399
something cool, but to actually help them get through that

1845
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:52,039
situation and what they're dealing with. So that's coming, ladies

1846
01:53:52,039 --> 01:53:54,159
and gentlemen. I want to thank everybody for hanging out

1847
01:53:54,199 --> 01:53:56,239
with us. We always got something cool here to bring

1848
01:53:56,319 --> 01:53:59,800
to the table and uh interesting podcast. Tonight, I'm gonna

1849
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:01,600
have to piece this together because it was done in

1850
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:04,239
like three parts, I think, and I know how to

1851
01:54:04,319 --> 01:54:06,880
I know how to fix that mess up. So I'm

1852
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:09,319
a piece this together, see see what we can salvage

1853
01:54:09,359 --> 01:54:11,960
and make sure you guys support us. We will be

1854
01:54:12,239 --> 01:54:15,800
on here. Oh yeah, I gotta announce this. The stream

1855
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,640
schedule is now on my website. If you've got to

1856
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:22,000
truthseeker dot com, go to the top there's the YouTube

1857
01:54:22,079 --> 01:54:25,960
stream schedule. So as I get confirmations with guests who

1858
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:27,319
are going to be on here, and even if we

1859
01:54:27,399 --> 01:54:29,920
do some other stuff, I'm putting the stream schedule on there,

1860
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:33,079
and it's usually either at ten am Central or seven

1861
01:54:33,159 --> 01:54:35,680
pm Central. Uh those two times I kind of go

1862
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,439
back and forth with people's schedule. So there's about five

1863
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,560
or six shows that are up there. I got James

1864
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:45,199
Gillilan coming back on. That's gonna be good. Bridget Nielsen's

1865
01:54:45,239 --> 01:54:46,880
coming on. She does a lot of stuff for Corey

1866
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,399
Good and Star Children and stuff like that, so we

1867
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:52,840
got some more interesting conversations, so you don't miss an episode.

1868
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:54,720
You guys want to catch us live and get in

1869
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:56,560
on the prayer and all that kind of stuff, go

1870
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,439
check out the stream schedule and we'll try to keep

1871
01:54:59,479 --> 01:55:02,159
that update with every new email that I book with

1872
01:55:02,359 --> 01:55:04,439
uh with guests. So with that being said, if you

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guys want to support the work as well, head on

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over to patreon dot com backslash truth Seeker. There's now

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a discord chat that's available Patreon links with discord. Download

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discord support me on Patreon and you get access to

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my private discord chat and uh there that's what we've

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been using a lot for our hangouts here, and there's

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some people who's using that. We find out it is working.

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Brett Stacey me and him been hanging out on that thing.

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He's supporting me over here. So Patreon dot com backslash

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truth Seeker you get unreleased music. There's a bunch of

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new stuff there too. With that, I'm gonna say peace

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and shalom and we will catch you guys on the

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next broadcast. Peace so much, so much, so much.

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Speaker 5: So much.

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Speaker 3: Well, that does it for this episode.

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Speaker 5: Folks.

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Speaker 4: To hear more episodes of The Truth Seek a podcast,

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head over to Truthseeker dot com and if you're wanted

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to support the show and get rewards, go to our

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Patreon page at patreon dot com.

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Speaker 3: Forward slash truth Seeker

