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Speaker 3: What do you think about the courts or not the courts,
Speaker 3: but a court ruling the tariffs are illegal, the a
Speaker 3: court struck down the tariffs, A trade court, a federal
Speaker 3: trade court, I think they call it, I'm not sure what.
Speaker 3: A US federal court ruled that Trump's sweeping tariffs are
Speaker 3: illegal and ordered their removal. So a three judge panel
Speaker 3: from the US Court of International Trade found that the
Speaker 3: White House exceeded its legal authority and it said that
Speaker 3: it is basically illegal. So there will be an implant
Speaker 3: that there will be a rollback of any tariffs that
Speaker 3: went into effect, and there will not be. It will
Speaker 3: not take effect as he wanted to. So that puts
Speaker 3: a big crimp in his weaponization of tariffs. And I
Speaker 3: don't say that as a put down. I mean he
Speaker 3: had a strategy and I think it was working. Everyone
Speaker 3: is eventually going to want to trade with America and
Speaker 3: they're going to want to equalize teriffs.
Speaker 4: That's all going to change real quick, man. It's I mean,
Speaker 4: it's it's all bs. It'll change within a few days.
Speaker 4: You mean the court, he'll he'll appeal it and win. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm sure they already did appeal it, and they'll at
Speaker 4: least stay it until it gets up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3: Now, more than ever, the courts are taking a legislative
Speaker 3: role in ruling a Marier. Judges are basically saying, here's
Speaker 3: what we think is good for America. Now, to their defense,
Speaker 3: they're going to say, all they're doing is keeping things
Speaker 3: from getting unconstitutional. But what's weird is almost everything Trump
Speaker 3: wants they're calling unconstitutional, and almost everything the Democrats want
Speaker 3: they're saying is constitutional. In a way, the courts are
Speaker 3: now legislating America. They are ruling America. They are saying,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what the president does, it's what we
Speaker 3: say that goes. If we say it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3: If not, it's not.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: The balance of power was set up in the US
Speaker 3: years and years ago with Congress, presidency, and the courts
Speaker 3: all with their own roles. Congress pass laws, the president coveto,
Speaker 3: the president had some executive privilege. Then you had the
Speaker 3: courts that look at everything and say, hey, it's constitutional
Speaker 3: or not constitutional. But they're the ultimate arbitrari ast to
Speaker 3: what goes on or not, and they've becoming more. They
Speaker 3: become more and more activist when it comes to social change,
Speaker 3: and I believe it goes far beyond the constitutionality of
Speaker 3: an issue. I think what they're doing is giving their
Speaker 3: personal beliefs of what should be done, and they're using
Speaker 3: the Constitution as their crutch. That's my personal opinion. Now
Speaker 3: I might be wrong. I mean, but is it likely
Speaker 3: that almost everything that President Trump wanted to do is unconstitutional?
Speaker 3: Doesn't sound like it just sounds too manipulative. Now, oddly,
Speaker 3: many of these judges are Republican as well. They're not
Speaker 3: all Democrat judges. Ruth has an issue with squatters. Ruth,
Speaker 3: are you talking about squatters in one of your rentals
Speaker 3: or waters in your yard or talk about it?
Speaker 5: I'm talking about they took over my house when I
Speaker 5: went into the hospital.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh my goodness. Now wait a minute. Were these
Speaker 3: people living with you before you went into the hospital. No,
Speaker 3: so you went into the hospital, and who took over
Speaker 3: your house?
Speaker 4: People?
Speaker 6: Just people, just.
Speaker 4: People you don't know, you never met before.
Speaker 5: Well, I have known them maybe five years ago. I
Speaker 5: knew him.
Speaker 3: And how did you know them?
Speaker 5: Well, there was I don't know. People just seemed to
Speaker 5: be disputing everything about me. For some reason, I owned them.
Speaker 3: But Ruth, do you own the home or do you
Speaker 3: rent it?
Speaker 5: I own it?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Right before? Are they related to you?
Speaker 4: Ruth? Tell me a little more information. Who are these people?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I mean if.
Speaker 4: They're related to you, do you understand? I mean generally
Speaker 4: what a squatter would be as like a complete stranger
Speaker 4: that moves in. I guess it could be a relative.
Speaker 4: But how long were you in the hospital forty five days?
Speaker 4: And they did not live there prior to you going
Speaker 4: into the hospital for care.
Speaker 5: No, as a matter of fact, they told me to
Speaker 5: leave them alone. Have nothing to do with them, their own,
Speaker 5: their own life.
Speaker 4: How were they related to you?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 4: How are they related to you?
Speaker 5: Wow? The one that left that was my daughter?
Speaker 4: And how old is she? Okay? And you think she's
Speaker 4: just like I'm going to try to shorten this up
Speaker 4: a little, but like she's a bum that just wants
Speaker 4: to live at your house even though you don't want
Speaker 4: her there. I mean, is she taking money from you
Speaker 4: as well? Or what's going on there?
Speaker 5: They stole all my furniture, They ran up a bunch
Speaker 5: of bills that I never authorized, and yeah, they how
Speaker 5: did they run.
Speaker 4: Up how did they run up the bills? Like on
Speaker 4: a credit card, on.
Speaker 5: A bank statement? Credit cards? What else? Well, they had
Speaker 5: my you know, my first when I when I went
Speaker 5: to the hospital, it was an emergency because I ended
Speaker 5: up having that open heart surgery right in there. A
Speaker 5: dentist didn't a dentist didn't seem to get the ad
Speaker 5: best tooth, and so it went and put a hole
Speaker 5: in my heart.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 5: Not But anyway, when I think they felt like I
Speaker 5: should have died, they were ver happy to take over
Speaker 5: the house.
Speaker 4: And so when you showed back way, did they come
Speaker 4: just did they visit you in the hospital at all?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 5: Not that I know of.
Speaker 4: Okay, so when you got when you got home, it
Speaker 4: was just a surprise they were living there. Yes, And
Speaker 4: did you tell them to leave at that point?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 5: I tried. I was told to just go to my
Speaker 5: room and shut up.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, what kind of daughter. You guys must
Speaker 4: have some kind of riff going back aways? Did you
Speaker 4: call the police?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've been out various a lot of times.
Speaker 4: Well, give me an example. You say various times, like
Speaker 4: for what different reasons?
Speaker 5: Well, I came home and I noticed my home looked different.
Speaker 5: But I tried to say, you know, well, one little
Speaker 5: thing that happened right off the bat was they were
Speaker 5: using my dishes, are my pots and pans, and had
Speaker 5: the fire burning real hot and burning my time. And
Speaker 5: I was trying to say nicely, you know those are
Speaker 5: waterless cook wears, and you just need to What I
Speaker 5: wanted to say is you just need to keep the
Speaker 5: fire down more than a little bitt Yeah.
Speaker 4: But Ruth, Ruth's Ruth, Ruth, Ruth, Hold Ruth, hold on
Speaker 4: one second. I got to take a break. But what
Speaker 4: I want you to do, I want you to focus
Speaker 4: on when the police came out, the different times they
Speaker 4: came out, hold on and what actually happened in what
Speaker 4: you said when you called them. But hold on a second.
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Speaker 3: So Mark, Ruth's squatters are actually her kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely one of them. I didn't get to the
Speaker 4: other relatives, but they are relatives of her, one of
Speaker 4: which is a daughter that's in their fifties. And Ruth
Speaker 4: got pretty upset when they were using one of her
Speaker 4: frying pans and the heat was on a little too
Speaker 4: high on the frying pan. So take it from Ruth.
Speaker 4: Did did they move in after you left the house.
Speaker 5: After I had already been in the hospital. Evidently this
Speaker 5: they did, and.
Speaker 3: They did it without your permission. Yes, and they have
Speaker 3: and you have no kind of relationship with them whatsoever.
Speaker 5: No, I haven't seen.
Speaker 4: Okay. If you asked, are you home back home now
Speaker 4: from the hospital? Yes?
Speaker 3: And when you asked them to leave, what do they say?
Speaker 5: I had to have an attorney. Actually, I was scared,
Speaker 5: and I was I called a friend when I first
Speaker 5: came home, and eventually after a few days, I was
Speaker 5: not invited to any mills or anything, and I was
Speaker 5: feeling like I was not very safe. So I so
Speaker 5: the policeman came out when I called my friends, and
Speaker 5: the policeman said to him they need to be civil
Speaker 5: to me and anyway.
Speaker 3: But the police officer, the police officer didn't tell them
Speaker 3: they had to leave.
Speaker 5: No, that's that's it's really, you know all they asked.
Speaker 5: And I think it's very important, is it. Do I
Speaker 5: think anybody has any guns? And hopefully I thought there
Speaker 5: was no guns in my house in but hopefully there
Speaker 5: still wasn't that I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's what I want to know. Have you
Speaker 3: asked them to leave?
Speaker 5: Yes, definitely, but I couldn't because she came screaming at
Speaker 5: me while nobody was around.
Speaker 4: But had my room and that I had do they
Speaker 4: happen to have power of attorney.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I ended up falling over, banged my head and
Speaker 5: had to be taken back to the hospital to have
Speaker 5: it looked over, because when you you know, I hadn't
Speaker 5: been in the hospital. There was out of the hospital
Speaker 5: very long.
Speaker 4: What are they doing in your home? Ruth? What are
Speaker 4: they doing in your home?
Speaker 5: Well, they're not here now. We I hired an attorney
Speaker 5: and it took five months to get them.
Speaker 4: Out, and you did, and they fought it for five months?
Speaker 5: Did you say did they fight it?
Speaker 3: Did they fight it? Were they fighting you? For five months?
Speaker 5: They were hostile?
Speaker 3: Okay, So they were finally evicted. Now what are you
Speaker 3: calling about today?
Speaker 5: They ran up over twenty thousand dollars in bills and
Speaker 5: so when I told the banks and the charge cards
Speaker 5: that I did not make the bills, they were all
Speaker 5: checked out and changed to be fraud. And so then
Speaker 5: now they made improvements on my house unauthorized. I guess
Speaker 5: they thought they were going out to live like what now,
Speaker 5: maybe I'd die?
Speaker 4: And uh so what kind of improvements? I mean, what
Speaker 4: kind of improvements did they make?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 4: What kind of improvement as did.
Speaker 5: They make what kin I had told I had told.
Speaker 5: I told the daughter that I canceled the contract and
Speaker 5: and don't I don't know. I mean, if she would call,
Speaker 5: I mean I told her if she would call and
Speaker 5: cancel a contract, that a bathroom was leaking out the
Speaker 5: side of the tub. And uh so she canceled it.
Speaker 5: But then they she turned around and went and got
Speaker 5: some other contractors unbeknown to me, and they put in
Speaker 5: they fixed the bathroom, and they built it. They finished
Speaker 5: the basement and put in another bathroom, all another rise.
Speaker 4: Did you pay for them? No?
Speaker 9: And now I'm being at the Now I'm being served
Speaker 9: that that they want to put a lane on the
Speaker 9: house for those I did not authorize them.
Speaker 5: They did not have the legal right to make.
Speaker 8: That that.
Speaker 3: So now I want to get I want to get
Speaker 3: Brad O'Brien on written. I want to get an attorney
Speaker 3: on to talk about this. They did improvements to your
Speaker 3: home that were not authorized while they were squatters. Now
Speaker 3: they want to get paid.
Speaker 5: They I want to find out what contractors do.
Speaker 4: I just got to ask something on the side, how'd
Speaker 4: you get so sideways with these relatives like your daughter?
Speaker 4: What happened. This doesn't happen overnight. This is very abnormal.
Speaker 4: How did we get here?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know what happened to her, but I
Speaker 5: do know that she got herself somehow the idea that
Speaker 5: she should go around stealing things all the time. It appears.
Speaker 5: And I told her I didn't want her. I had
Speaker 5: some you know, you have your own ring or whatever
Speaker 5: when you're married. I'm not married in a long time,
Speaker 5: but I had one. She's everything I have like that.
Speaker 5: And I kept saying, no, you can't do that. And
Speaker 5: she's one. And she came over one time.
Speaker 4: She on drugs or something? Is she on drugs?
Speaker 5: I have a concern about that because her son years ago.
Speaker 5: Whenever I recall this kind of chip, she is growing marijuana.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well that's fine. We'll get an attorney
Speaker 4: on tom and see what he's got to say.
Speaker 7: Here.
Speaker 4: Here's what I want to know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to get Brad O'Brien on to see
Speaker 3: what kind of life, what kind of chance they have
Speaker 3: of doing this as far as an actual lean, That's
Speaker 3: what I'd like to know me too.
Speaker 10: I need help with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get
Speaker 3: Brad O'Brien on.
Speaker 4: To talk about It's kind of interesting because a lean
Speaker 4: is actually on the property. I mean, it's really not
Speaker 4: I would guess, and I'm dying to hear what Brad's
Speaker 4: got to say. I mean, think of the story in
Speaker 4: front of a judge. You're honor my daughter while I
Speaker 4: was in the hospital, moved into my house, had the
Speaker 4: basement finished, and had the bathroom finished, and now that's done,
Speaker 4: and now the contractor wants to get paid and is
Speaker 4: leaning my house. I mean, what would a judge possibly
Speaker 4: say to that story? What's your guest? What do you think,
Speaker 4: Brad would I guess?
Speaker 3: My guess is this the contractor gave her value quantum
Speaker 3: marrowit and that means that you got the value, you
Speaker 3: pay the price.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: Then she has a separate issue against her daughter who
Speaker 3: authorized it and cost her that. So I think it's
Speaker 3: going to be mixed. Ruth is actually going to be
Speaker 3: responsible if she got benefit. I know it sounds crazy.
Speaker 3: Brad is unavailable on being told Brad O'Brien will try
Speaker 3: to get him on another time with you, Ruth.
Speaker 4: But interesting enough, I just got a text and I'm
Speaker 4: going to dig into it over this break, but I
Speaker 4: got a text from Suzanne that says, quote her daughter
Speaker 4: called our show exclamation points. So I'm going to figure
Speaker 4: out what her daughter had to say. Is this an
Speaker 4: only child, by the way, or do you have other kids?
Speaker 4: I'm just curious, Ruth, is this your only child?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: Huh?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well they broke them old on that one, didn't they.
Speaker 3: Here's something though, that when it comes up on the show,
Speaker 3: people get very pissed off at me when I talk
Speaker 3: about this, but it's something people don't want to talk about.
Speaker 3: Under the rules in the state of Colorado, if you
Speaker 3: go off to work one day or take a long
Speaker 3: weekend vacation. I've said this before and I'm mean it.
Speaker 3: And let's say Mark's way out in the country, they
Speaker 3: move into his house or into his garage, they can
Speaker 3: claim a tendency and he's not allowed to He's not
Speaker 3: allowed to a victim.
Speaker 4: Through the court. I don't argue with you, but we
Speaker 4: kind of have an argument about this because I would
Speaker 4: just handle it different if I walked back in my
Speaker 4: house after a vacation and was startled in my house
Speaker 4: with people that I thought were going to kill me, I'd.
Speaker 3: Shoot him dead. Okay, I understand what you're saying. Many
Speaker 3: other people might handle it that way. But YouTube and
Speaker 3: the internet space is filled with people who have taken
Speaker 3: over other people's homes and stayed there blatantly and just
Speaker 3: stay there boldly.
Speaker 4: Hey, I got it and made them go through the courts.
Speaker 4: I got a quick question for Ruth. Hey, Ruth, did
Speaker 4: you dispute the credit card charges on this and the
Speaker 4: bank sided with you? Did that happen?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 4: So, but hold on, that means you weren't really out
Speaker 4: of money. So what happened is Tom, her daughter paid
Speaker 4: with Ruth's credit card. Ruth went to the bank after
Speaker 4: seeing the charges, and the bank sided with her because
Speaker 4: the daughter didn't have permission to use the credit cards.
Speaker 4: So now that the contractor has not gotten paid, that's
Speaker 4: where we are. Now that's really the entire story. Okay,
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Speaker 3: there are many people texting me saying they agree one
Speaker 3: hundred percent with Mark. If they came home from the
Speaker 3: hospital from a vacation, from a long weekend from work
Speaker 3: and someone who's inside the house claiming they live.
Speaker 4: There, they wouldn't be alive.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the law says on that, but
Speaker 3: as Brad O'Brien loves to say, that's self help. And
Speaker 3: you can get in trouble for it.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 3: Once someone is dead and you say they were threatening you,
Speaker 3: and they're inside your house and there's no one there
Speaker 3: to say we had a lease or we had an agreement,
Speaker 3: that might be the end of it. Pretty much could be.
Speaker 3: But we're being told that no one would put up
Speaker 3: with it. Yeah, all over the country, people are taking
Speaker 3: over homes every single day.
Speaker 4: You look it up.
Speaker 3: It's happening every single day. The worst of it is
Speaker 3: in California. No one can do anything about it. But
Speaker 3: I often said, if someone moved into Oprah's house, or
Speaker 3: Ellen DeGeneres, or pick a name, Prince Harry, anyone living
Speaker 3: out on the coast, if anyone ever did that, what
Speaker 3: do you think would happen? Do you think they would
Speaker 3: tell them they had to go through the courts. Do
Speaker 3: you think they would tell Tyler Perry he has to
Speaker 3: go through the courts and wait for them to evictim
Speaker 3: out of his house.
Speaker 4: What do you think would happen? Their security guards would
Speaker 4: have it handled. I mean, it wouldn't even be an
Speaker 4: issue because they would never get to live there. You're saying, well,
Speaker 4: even if they did and the security guards came home
Speaker 4: with whoever it was, I mean, once again, you know
Speaker 4: that's a threat someone in your house. I don't know
Speaker 4: about California, but most states have something like to make
Speaker 4: my day law if you're in mind.
Speaker 3: Unless they say unless they say I live here.
Speaker 4: Well that's fine. I mean if someone breaks into my
Speaker 4: house in the middle of the night with a knife
Speaker 4: and tells me he lives there, they're gonna die.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's what I'm talking about, breaking into
Speaker 3: your house in the middle of the night. I'm talking
Speaker 3: about you coming home from a vacation and they're they're
Speaker 3: there living, and they got packages delivered and they can
Speaker 3: prove it.
Speaker 4: Mark Listen. I don't think living is my point, Tom.
Speaker 4: I mean, why would anybody even like you, walk in
Speaker 4: there's complete strangers in your house. If you have the
Speaker 4: ability and a gun right there. Why wouldn't you shoot them?
Speaker 4: I'd be terrified. It's my house. Who are you? Why
Speaker 4: are you here? I wouldn't even ask those questions what
Speaker 4: Mark's saying.
Speaker 12: Mark, I think what you're saying is the squatter's tendency
Speaker 12: will terminate right there and then.
Speaker 4: Yes, that would be my one second notice, year one
Speaker 4: second note is that that's actually pretty funny. Hey, let's
Speaker 4: go to uh real quick. I want to finish up
Speaker 4: on this, Ruth. So here's the deal, and I'm going
Speaker 4: to bring Ruth back up. But Ruth kind of listen
Speaker 4: to what I'm saying. And Tom, I don't know if
Speaker 4: you were here for this call. Originally, the daughter called
Speaker 4: in Ruth. Your daughter called in here. Her story is
Speaker 4: a lot different than yours. Her story goes like this,
Speaker 4: hold on, Ruth, I'll put her on hold.
Speaker 3: What's what's her first name?
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I don't remember. We're trying to figure
Speaker 4: out who it is because we don't know how to
Speaker 4: look it up without the first name. But hold on.
Speaker 4: So she goes to the hospital. They come over because
Speaker 4: according to the daughter, Ruth, I don't know if this
Speaker 4: is true or not, but you're like big time hoarder,
Speaker 4: big time hoarder, Like, can't even walk through your basement,
Speaker 4: just a hoarder. Stuff everywhere. I don't know if it's trash,
Speaker 4: I don't recall. But then they had to pay a
Speaker 4: company to come over and basically clean all the crap
Speaker 4: out of your house so you could live there. That
Speaker 4: was hers. She used your credit card to actually pay
Speaker 4: these contractors to get the house back in order. She
Speaker 4: said nothing about refinishing a basement, which, by the way,
Speaker 4: the more I thought about it, and I'll ask Chris
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Speaker 4: You guys do bathrooms. You're not going to finish a
Speaker 4: basement in forty five days. You couldn't even have inspections
Speaker 4: in that period of time. So when Ruth tells me
Speaker 4: that they came over and had her basement refinished and
Speaker 4: remodeled a bathroom, all within forty five days, that doesn't
Speaker 4: sound right. The daughter said, they paid people to come in,
Speaker 4: Ruth and literally make your home livable for you. Then
Speaker 4: when you found out that your stuff was gone, you
Speaker 4: got mad, and once again this is according to your daughter,
Speaker 4: you got mad and went after the credit card company
Speaker 4: and said it was fraud, and it very well could
Speaker 4: be fraud. And I kind of agree with that. You
Speaker 4: didn't give permission to use it. What's so? Whoever, So
Speaker 4: I agree with that, But the story is one hundred
Speaker 4: percent different. So what do you make of that? Ruth lies?
Speaker 5: Lies? Lies?
Speaker 4: Okay, I had, I had.
Speaker 5: I'm a senior asery, but I'm a I'm a healthy one.
Speaker 5: I usually walk a mile and a half two or
Speaker 5: three times a week before all this happened. And then, uh, anyway,
Speaker 5: I I have lived here myself because I just enjoyed
Speaker 5: having my home, having it looking fine, and then not
Speaker 5: being retired. I wanted to just just enjoy my last
Speaker 5: year is a little bit and see that kind of
Speaker 5: life within my home. And anyway, yeah, and so my house.
Speaker 4: You're not a squatter. Huh, you're not a squatter? Order
Speaker 4: I'm a squatter or what? That's what I mean? Well?
Speaker 4: Are you a hoarder? No?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, you didn't.
Speaker 4: No, you had no junk. You had no junk.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: I had a few pieces of paper I was reading
Speaker 5: whenever my heart hit me. There I laid down on
Speaker 5: the sofa and there's paper around.
Speaker 4: My Spidey senses went up on that. I mean, at
Speaker 4: least that is a small acknowledge and that you like
Speaker 4: to have keepsakes, right, Yeah, I sure did. Do you
Speaker 4: have any old pizza boxes?
Speaker 5: Anny?
Speaker 3: Old?
Speaker 4: What pizza box?
Speaker 5: Pizza boxes? I'm sorry, I'm pizza Oh yeah, she's not
Speaker 5: getting it. Oh no, oh no. What I had was
Speaker 5: my grandparents I dearly loved, and they had when they
Speaker 5: whenever my when they became ill called me and asked
Speaker 5: me what would I like from my grandparents? And I said,
Speaker 5: the picture them when they got married, and the yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, just a few things to remember her and
Speaker 5: my grandpa together like that, And so I agree, how
Speaker 5: many things?
Speaker 12: I think.
Speaker 4: Ultimately, what's going to happen with why she called is
Speaker 4: they're either going to lean it or not. I don't
Speaker 4: know what was done there. I truly doubt that anybody
Speaker 4: finished the basement in a bathroom in forty five days.
Speaker 4: I find that impossible. But whatever did happen there, whether
Speaker 4: it was a cleanup or get all the stuff out,
Speaker 4: I don't know. But if the contractors that were there
Speaker 4: have not gotten paid, which they haven't according to both
Speaker 4: of them, then they're either going to lean it and
Speaker 4: then bring you to court, Ruth and prove the lean or.
Speaker 4: They're not going to There's not much more that's going
Speaker 4: to happen here.
Speaker 5: Well, they're still on furniture. I had nice furniture. I
Speaker 5: have pictures of it, and they can't. They sold it
Speaker 5: all and took it through.
Speaker 3: Do you have pictures you can send us? Do you
Speaker 3: have pictures you can send us?
Speaker 5: Well, okay, I'm all right. My my other my real
Speaker 5: phone that I had was a Samsung and I'm not
Speaker 5: real good on it, and I'm doing all I can
Speaker 5: to get these pictures off of my I ended up
Speaker 5: having to get an iPhone. I need help and get
Speaker 5: these pictures done. I tried to send them to the police,
Speaker 5: and for some reason they keep blocking and not getting something.
Speaker 4: And here's how we uh, here's how we came down
Speaker 4: with this. The contractor, Eduardo is actually the caller from
Speaker 4: one twenty two. Suzanne actually nailed the months too, and
Speaker 4: he gave us the daughter's information that paid us. So
Speaker 4: Eduardo is the one that has not gotten paid. And
Speaker 4: then when I got the daughter's information, we called over
Speaker 4: there and talked to the daughter and that's how we
Speaker 4: learned all about this.
Speaker 5: Well, all I can say you.
Speaker 4: Weren't allowed According to your daughter, you weren't even on
Speaker 4: this January twenty January twenty second. Yes, but listen to this.
Speaker 4: According to the daughter, you couldn't even come back to
Speaker 4: your house because the city wouldn't let you. They would
Speaker 4: not even Well, okay, I'm putting her back on hold
Speaker 4: because I have a feeling we're going down a rabbit hole.
Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is, if I recall
Speaker 4: literally and if your daughter is that good of a liar,
Speaker 4: she should win an Emmy or something, because what she
Speaker 4: said is you weren't allowed to go back into your
Speaker 4: house because the city basically condemned it. So if they
Speaker 4: didn't have the work done, you wouldn't even be able
Speaker 4: to go home. Ruth. I'm you can finish it up.
Speaker 4: I'm very I'd like to get the daughter back on
Speaker 4: I don't know why you're on here.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, there's different strokes, different opinions.
Speaker 3: I see this call from Eduardo. He never got paid.
Speaker 3: Do we have Eduardo's number anywhere?
Speaker 12: I'll be happy to give a Duardo a call if
Speaker 12: we know the name of his company or his name
Speaker 12: or I.
Speaker 4: Would love to know he's a third party in this,
Speaker 4: and I'd like to know the scope of work. What
Speaker 4: did he do there that I would love to know.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'd like to see his proposal and his invoice
Speaker 12: and will halis what was done?
Speaker 4: Do we have his info Kelly or Susanne? I know
Speaker 4: you're listening for it. I would love to have either
Speaker 4: the daughter or Eduardo's number, and I'd love to hear
Speaker 4: the scope of the work. It's pretty simple. Either I
Speaker 4: got to take it, I gotta tap and clean the
Speaker 4: place up, or they refinished the basement.
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Speaker 3: three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. That's hi, Tom
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Speaker 3: the way, we have Ruth's daughter on the phone. Ugh, Joanna, Joanna, Yes,
Speaker 3: did you hear your mom's call? No? She said you
Speaker 3: squatted in her place and wouldn't leave, and you did
Speaker 3: unauthorized repairs and now you're now you're the contractors are
Speaker 3: trying to lean her house.
Speaker 6: Interesting, did you move in?
Speaker 3: Did you move in without permission? Did you move in without.
Speaker 6: We had a lease, she signed the lease. As a
Speaker 6: matter of fact, when she signed the.
Speaker 13: Lease, she signed it in front of a notary, and
Speaker 13: she was so cognizant of the differences between the power
Speaker 13: of attorney for the medical and the leases.
Speaker 6: Because we have a zip code that's eight O two
Speaker 6: three four, and it is it's separated. It's Denver from Aurora.
Speaker 13: It's an unincorporated Rebel county and in front of the notary.
Speaker 4: All right, hold on, hold on, hold on. We're dying
Speaker 4: to hear the rest of this, but we have to
Speaker 4: go to break.
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Speaker 3: started calling saying, look, I was in the hospital. My
Speaker 3: daughter moved into my house and took it over and
Speaker 3: she did improvements I did not authorize, and now they left.
Speaker 3: I got him evicted when I got home, But now
Speaker 3: people are coming after me. They want to lean the
Speaker 3: property for the improvements and for the cleanup. And that's
Speaker 3: what she's calling about now. Joanna, who says she's Ruth's daughter,
Speaker 3: says that's not the story at all. In fact, Joanna
Speaker 3: says Ruth gave her a lease and Ruth was quite
Speaker 3: cognizant of the fact that Joanna was going to lease
Speaker 3: the house. Joanna, if that's true, why is Ruth calling
Speaker 3: us now with this story because.
Speaker 6: She was a want to pay for the contractor.
Speaker 4: In the contractor? Joanna, is it correct that your mother
Speaker 4: was not allowed to move back into the house because
Speaker 4: it was in such bad shape until it got cleaned up?
Speaker 4: I recall something like that or is that a different call?
Speaker 6: Correct? No, that's the exact same thing, the exact situation.
Speaker 6: So she literally came home from the hospital on August
Speaker 6: or October twelfth, and we all took her to a
Speaker 6: birthday party because it was my granddaughter's birthday and my
Speaker 6: son's birthday. And at the day she came home, we
Speaker 6: welcomed her home with and then we welcomed her home,
Speaker 6: the whole entire family did. We took her to a
Speaker 6: birthday party, her great granddaughter's birthday parties, and then when
Speaker 6: we brought her home, my daughter who was twenty sixth
Speaker 6: my son in law, my granddaughter who the time was
Speaker 6: under the age of a year, myself. We all moved
Speaker 6: in and she seemed to be just fine until she
Speaker 6: started getting the bills and she didn't want to pay.
Speaker 6: She didn't want to pay. Now, she neglects to negates
Speaker 6: to state that the house was in such disrepair that
Speaker 6: she didn't even have a bathroom in the master bathroom
Speaker 6: for at least ten years, And so she actually had
Speaker 6: a contract that she wanted me to negotiate to get
Speaker 6: her out of. Prior to while she was in the hospital,
Speaker 6: she kept yelling about the interest rate. And I don't
Speaker 6: remember the name of the company, but her and her fiance,
Speaker 6: Craig Jones, were in together with getting this bathroom, and
Speaker 6: he kept saying that she was going to have a
Speaker 6: lien on the house if we didn't get this bathroom
Speaker 6: taken care of. And so she had me to negotiate.
Speaker 4: May I ask something? May I ask?
Speaker 3: And that Yeah, Okay, That's what I meant. So I
Speaker 3: want to ask you something about your mother, Ruth Trina,
Speaker 3: and that is I want to know if I want
Speaker 3: to know what the lease was for, why did you
Speaker 3: have a lease with her?
Speaker 6: I did a lease because we knew that we were
Speaker 6: using her cards and we had permission, and the lease
Speaker 6: was to help pay to help her pay it, to
Speaker 6: help we were not going to leave her alone with that.
Speaker 6: The lease was to help her pay it. I mean
Speaker 6: she she started acting.
Speaker 3: What did the lease say? Did the least say you
Speaker 3: were going to live in the basement? Where were you
Speaker 3: going to live the whole house?
Speaker 4: What were the traditions?
Speaker 6: My daughter and my son in law, we actually updated
Speaker 6: and added the bathroom downstairs, and added fixed the heating system,
Speaker 6: and added a living quarters in a bedroom in the basement,
Speaker 6: and then we added and updated a bathroom in the
Speaker 6: master bedroom. We tore out the carpet, we added the bathroom.
Speaker 6: We four down mirrors, and replaced carpet throughout the whole
Speaker 6: entire upper floor. On the third floor, we removed belongings
Speaker 6: that had been there from my grandmother and her previous husband.
Speaker 6: She called him Tom. She says she was her husband.
Speaker 6: They were never married, and we put those things in
Speaker 6: storage so we could all cohabitate, and she didn't even
Speaker 6: give us enough time. She got home, she started acting
Speaker 6: delusional and left August Halloween. She left Halloween was the
Speaker 6: first incident where I have her recording. I have her
Speaker 6: own recording where she's calling the police on me and
Speaker 6: I'm literally sitting there in her room while she's telling
Speaker 6: them all of these horrible things about me. And that's
Speaker 6: the incident. So it was get my house updated, pin
Speaker 6: it on my daughter, make her pay for it. And
Speaker 6: then with the other contract I don't know if they
Speaker 6: are trying to sue her as well. But the contractor
Speaker 6: who came, he did an amazing job and he didn't
Speaker 6: have to do. The crew that he brought in and
Speaker 6: the things that they did, they did the things that
Speaker 6: they people would have take months to do to bring
Speaker 6: her home. And there were contractors that they were moving
Speaker 6: furniture one of these routs.
Speaker 3: I mean, Joanna, you're Joanna, you're saying, You're saying, Ruth
Speaker 3: had complete knowledge of everything going on.
Speaker 6: And then now playing and text her and Faith timed
Speaker 6: her and sent messages and messages. I will come down
Speaker 6: with my phone and show you all of the evidence.
Speaker 6: I cannot email all of this stuff. I have text
Speaker 6: messages where she did my son and my daughter in
Speaker 6: law into coming and moving the prior to her open
Speaker 6: heart surgery planning.
Speaker 3: This all sounds it all sounds very convincing. Trust me.
Speaker 3: So you're saying, Ruth right now is putting on an act?
Speaker 10: Correct?
Speaker 4: Hey, Ruth, what what do you you know this?
Speaker 3: When we hear the other side of the story, it
Speaker 3: changes everything, Ruth?
Speaker 5: Well, okay, whatever, what do you mean it changes it? Well,
Speaker 5: I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 4: Well, it changes everything.
Speaker 3: She says she has a lease with your signature in
Speaker 3: front of a notary.
Speaker 5: No, that least was never signed by me, and it
Speaker 5: was a forgery and I never saw the lease before.
Speaker 5: And then suddenly they threw it at me at my
Speaker 5: face after I had been after I moved out of
Speaker 5: my house because I was I'm nice to be there.
Speaker 5: My attorney had all.
Speaker 10: Of this on record.
Speaker 4: How did they get you evicted?
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 6: We left because of the torments. We have them coming
Speaker 6: to the house and tormenting us every single day. We
Speaker 6: have videos of them surveillancing the home.
Speaker 5: We have her We said you know what, they've never
Speaker 5: paid it. If it was a release, there's no money
Speaker 5: that was ever forwarded to me.
Speaker 9: We couldn't.
Speaker 5: But what about that that was not a lease? They
Speaker 5: wrote it?
Speaker 4: Well, hold on, hold on, that's ruth. Hold on, that's
Speaker 4: a great question. Did you ever pay her?
Speaker 3: I couldn't, Joanna, what does that mean you couldn't?
Speaker 6: Well? When she was in the hospital, Sir, I am
Speaker 6: a single person and I don't have any money, and
Speaker 6: I was literally in a situation from leaving a very
Speaker 6: leaving a sit okay situation. So I thought I was
Speaker 6: helping my mother in the process here. And when I
Speaker 6: was assisting her and rehaving her house her, I did
Speaker 6: not have a job. I was an independent contractor.
Speaker 4: So what did the lease say? Zero rent?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: It said that I would pay well, was a January first,
Speaker 6: that we would start to lease January first? That would
Speaker 6: give me enough time in order to help her sort
Speaker 6: out her medical stuff. I was applying with the state
Speaker 6: in order to be her caregiver. And that's when she
Speaker 6: started to freak out, because you can get assistance on
Speaker 6: helping her and taking care of her, and that money
Speaker 6: would have regenerated to put back in her pocket to
Speaker 6: pay the freaking credit cards.
Speaker 4: You know, ladies, this whole this whole thing, Oh wow,
Speaker 4: this whole thing is just nuts. And I got to
Speaker 4: say this. You guys are separated now, you're not living there,
Speaker 4: so I don't even think that's an issue anymore.
Speaker 14: I was homeless. I literally left and lived in my
Speaker 14: car because I literally.
Speaker 6: Could not stand the amount of abuse this woman has
Speaker 6: put me through for the last fifty two years.
Speaker 4: Ah, that's what I was asking before. When did this begin?
Speaker 14: Yees, fifty two years ago. I have documentation that she
Speaker 14: has been obsessed with my whole entire life for fifty
Speaker 14: two years since I since birth. This woman, you can't
Speaker 14: even give me the details.
Speaker 10: Of my birth.
Speaker 14: She said that I was born and she thought it
Speaker 14: was she had the flu.
Speaker 5: She can't tell me.
Speaker 3: How long she I was born in a crossfire hurricane exactly.
Speaker 6: And then my kidnapt me when I was.
Speaker 4: Five from wait Water Dad. Your dad kidnapped you.
Speaker 14: You kidnapped me when I was five from her, and
Speaker 14: the set replaced me back to her.
Speaker 4: She did have her as we got the makings of
Speaker 4: a song here. Not only that, this is like we
Speaker 4: could re erect the Jerry Springer Show. I just have
Speaker 4: one last question for you. Joanna, I just have one
Speaker 4: last question for you.
Speaker 12: Said that the city would not allow your mother to
Speaker 12: move back into that house unless some situation was remedied.
Speaker 4: First, I didn't do this. How did you get that notice?
Speaker 4: I see somebody said that the city? Am I the
Speaker 4: only one who heard Mark said it? I said Mark
Speaker 4: said that. I Mark said that because Duardo said that.
Speaker 4: Is he the contractor?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yes, I know. Duardo said that these prepared
Speaker 4: to be made.
Speaker 6: They had to because the system.
Speaker 4: Was Well you're yeah, I understand your idea of needing
Speaker 4: to be made in the cities is a little different.
Speaker 4: So that's all. But let me just say this and
Speaker 4: then Tom finish up with these guys. But you guys
Speaker 4: are separated now. It's evident for fifty two years you
Speaker 4: can't stand each other. So I'd suggest you stay away
Speaker 4: from each other. And as far as you go, Ruth,
Speaker 4: that contractor once again is going to have to send
Speaker 4: you a ten day notice to lean, and he's got
Speaker 4: to do that within four months, and then actually lean
Speaker 4: the property, and then from four months of when he
Speaker 4: left your house, within six months, he's got to basically
Speaker 4: file an action or file a court date and serve
Speaker 4: you and then you guys will go and you either
Speaker 4: owe it or not. It'll be up to a job.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: I think Eduardo. I think Eduardo's already too late to
Speaker 3: do a lean. He called us in January, so let's
Speaker 3: just say February, March, April, May. He's coming up on
Speaker 3: four months right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's it. Ruster's probably on this thing anybody
Speaker 4: can do. He can lean your property, but he'll never
Speaker 4: be able to make it valid. And I think it's
Speaker 4: a shame a mother and daughter and have such such issues.
Speaker 4: I remember having issues with my parents growing up.
Speaker 14: But my god, Yeah, I left we at fifteen years old,
Speaker 14: and I have never turned back. I thought I was
Speaker 14: helping her, but you you.
Speaker 4: Just moved in with her. You did turn back, Not
Speaker 4: that I care, but don't say you never turned back. Well,
Speaker 4: I came back because I thought I because she said
Speaker 4: she thought she was helping. Yeah, she thought she was helping.
Speaker 4: This is Oil and Water Day.
Speaker 14: This September twenty second. She said, oh you'll you'll get
Speaker 14: the house at least.
Speaker 6: I'll give you the How So I thought I was,
Speaker 6: you know, working on keeping an inheritance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you didn't. You didn't pay for any of it.
Speaker 11: I didn't.
Speaker 6: My intention was I didn't even get a chance. I
Speaker 6: was harased from the beginning when.
Speaker 14: When she came home, I was nothing but her.
Speaker 6: Wrathed And when I come down and show you this
Speaker 6: file in these text messages, every day this woman calls
Speaker 6: and leaves me a voicemail every day she I have
Speaker 6: her blocked, and she continues to dial my phone number.
Speaker 14: She has harassed me every single.
Speaker 13: Day when we lived in a help when she left
Speaker 13: October August, October thirty first, on Halloween, when she.
Speaker 4: Hey, Tom, I put her on hold. I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't think there's much that I couldn't think of. This
Speaker 4: might be a little out of our pay grade. No, no,
Speaker 4: there's not much we can do about it. But Ley
Speaker 4: deputy docs chomping on the bit here. He's saying he
Speaker 4: might be able to jump in and figure this out.
Speaker 4: Nice trimark awsome. I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Now here's the deal. She's not going to get her
Speaker 3: house leaned.
Speaker 4: It's too late.
Speaker 3: The daughter has feelings going back fifty two years. This
Speaker 3: will never be patched. But Ruth, the main reason you called.
Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about They're never going to
Speaker 3: be able to collect from you. We have more coming
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Speaker 3: to talk about housing? Go ahead, Nancy, what's going on
Speaker 3: with you?
Speaker 15: Hello?
Speaker 10: Tom?
Speaker 7: Hi, are you today.
Speaker 3: Hi, good, what's going on?
Speaker 11: Well?
Speaker 7: I live in the Starting Housing Authority here in Starting, Colorado.
Speaker 7: I've been here almost eight years.
Speaker 6: In the department, and.
Speaker 7: The one I lived in since December of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 7: we had sewer and water damage almost every other day,
Speaker 7: and it was coming from the shower lift of the
Speaker 7: shower all the way into my bedroom closet and on
Speaker 7: the carpeting. I would have to call maintenance and they
Speaker 7: would come out and they'd get the feces and the
Speaker 7: toilet paper and do it with a wet back, and
Speaker 7: then they'd throw it right on my front porch, right
Speaker 7: in the front lawn. And then we'd be without a toilet,
Speaker 7: without using the bathroom, or without a shower, and we
Speaker 7: have to go to the rec room to use the
Speaker 7: bathroom whenever we could. And then this was happening constant
Speaker 7: for at least at least until mid April. And I
Speaker 7: would go to the office and tell them I'm getting sick.
Speaker 7: We'd have to clean up everything, and I said, there's
Speaker 7: something to smell. Is just getting awful. The floor is
Speaker 7: turning blackish brown all over, and I'm getting sick. They said, well,
Speaker 7: I don't know we'll we'll see. The executive director came
Speaker 7: over and said, well, I'll put a work order in
Speaker 7: and they'll come in shampoo the carpets that never happened.
Speaker 4: These are all is this Section eight?
Speaker 7: Out of curiosity, Well, this is a thing they say,
Speaker 7: this is starting housing authority, and this is what I've
Speaker 7: been told. It's an entity of its own. They're not hood,
Speaker 7: but they have to go by head rules.
Speaker 6: They're not sectional.
Speaker 4: But Nancy, that the only reason I asked that is
Speaker 4: I didn't know if I wanted to understand if you
Speaker 4: had other options, like if you could go Mark into
Speaker 4: another complex. Mark.
Speaker 3: Housing Authority homes are not Section eight Section eight are
Speaker 3: usually private homes that apply for Section eight private owners.
Speaker 3: This is a This is a.
Speaker 4: This is agency owned. Housing authorities are hold on.
Speaker 3: Housing authorities are organizations that own properties and get government subsidies.
Speaker 3: They pass those subsidies on to qualified tenants. So here's
Speaker 3: what I want to know. You said this started in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 7: Yes, in December. Yes, and then finally moved me because
Speaker 7: I went to the board, which is the one that
Speaker 7: makes the decisions here at this housing is already okay.
Speaker 7: I went to the board and told them how sick
Speaker 7: I was getting, I was moving hair, I was losing weight,
Speaker 7: I was everything okay, So they moved.
Speaker 15: Me to it.
Speaker 7: Where did they move you to another apartment complex?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Now? What's going on?
Speaker 7: They didn't treat the other apartment until I moved out,
Speaker 7: and then I told them I do not want to
Speaker 7: move here until I know you're cross contaminating bringing all
Speaker 7: my stuff from this old house too new. She said,
Speaker 7: they sprayed some stuff and had somebody spray it. Well,
Speaker 7: I get here and I start getting stick again. Well,
Speaker 7: they had contractors come in and they determined there was
Speaker 7: black mold here, there's termites. They have my wall off
Speaker 7: still from April twenty first, they have all the dry
Speaker 7: wall off in the front window beside the windowstill and
Speaker 7: have not came and put anything over it. There's hot
Speaker 7: wires and there's no plastic on it.
Speaker 10: At first I had to put in a work order.
Speaker 11: Nancy.
Speaker 4: It sounds horrible, but I still have that same question.
Speaker 4: Do you have the ability to move somewhere else if
Speaker 4: we could help you break this lease?
Speaker 7: No, because I didn't even have to break it. Now
Speaker 7: they're saying because I did not pay my rent for
Speaker 7: an inhabitable reason that they're going to start with the
Speaker 7: viction procedures. I said, well, you know what, you broke
Speaker 7: my lease first by not taking care of all of everything,
Speaker 7: because I've given everything abuse.
Speaker 4: Nancy, Nancy, Nancy, let me let me just let me
Speaker 4: give you some truth. Truth is what you need right now.
Speaker 3: If you did not pay rent, you're going to get evicted.
Speaker 3: You're not allowed to withhold rent.
Speaker 4: Well, I have it.
Speaker 7: I have it, say thet to put aside until everything's
Speaker 7: taken care of. It's not that I'm not paying, it's
Speaker 7: I'm withholding until they take care of all the things
Speaker 7: that are supposed to be taking care of for me
Speaker 7: to be here.
Speaker 4: They're habitable or that's not Nancy, that's just simply not
Speaker 4: the way you're supposed to do it according to Colorado law.
Speaker 4: Tom will tell you how to do it properly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, the first thing we need to do is let's
Speaker 3: see if we can call them and simply get them
Speaker 3: to make the repairs. We'll get you in another apartment.
Speaker 7: And director, Yeah, you can never get ahold executive director
Speaker 7: because she doesn't like confrontations. She doesn't like to admit
Speaker 7: her wrong. She threw all my stuff out of starge
Speaker 7: and light about it, have it on video and said
Speaker 7: she had nothing to do with it. When the maintenance
Speaker 7: people said there, she's the one that told them to
Speaker 7: do it. So, I mean, so right now, Colorado, they
Speaker 7: didn't even do anything.
Speaker 4: They don't they don't control it.
Speaker 7: Well, they said that they will, They'll have the commissioner
Speaker 7: come out and speak and sit down. If that never happened,
Speaker 7: I want to get somebody out here to do a
Speaker 7: real We have people get all sick. We have people
Speaker 7: getting sick and very sick. It I mean conditions that
Speaker 7: are already that we have because we're just disabled.
Speaker 5: And then this is Nancy.
Speaker 4: Who is with you? Who is with you?
Speaker 7: There?
Speaker 5: Ali Ali?
Speaker 3: This is Ali By.
Speaker 7: Yes, we have plenty of other tents as attendant.
Speaker 5: My whole wall is ripped up to I'm sick with asthma.
Speaker 6: I have a history of asthma.
Speaker 5: My cat died from it three weeks ago.
Speaker 4: And well, I certainly here's the deal.
Speaker 3: Certainly, if these people are living in this kind of condition,
Speaker 3: I mean they have to address it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have not any do.
Speaker 11: You have none?
Speaker 5: No, they have not.
Speaker 7: And once you bring it to their attention. They just said, oh,
Speaker 7: we'll take care of it, and they don't. This has
Speaker 7: meant that they're put twenty third our walls.
Speaker 5: Or communications and all of our work orders on our records.
Speaker 7: They won't give us our file, they won't give us
Speaker 7: the report from the contractors that came in of what
Speaker 7: they found. They found asbestos in my old apartment, three
Speaker 7: layers with a no lium in the bathroom.
Speaker 5: Black moles, retoxic molds, yes, three toxic.
Speaker 6: Molds, and besides that, the termites, a wing or.
Speaker 4: I think, I think we need someone to call on this.
Speaker 4: I think dogs. Are you willing to call out there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, deputy deputy dog? Why not call uh sterling and
Speaker 3: let's let's see what we can find out.
Speaker 7: That'd be awesome. I also there's forty nine vacancies in
Speaker 7: these three complexes. I don't understand why. But in other buildings,
Speaker 7: we live in cottages, that's what they're called share. So
Speaker 7: there's a two other buildings. Okay, So the building that
Speaker 7: the offices in has bedbugs, my water damage in their
Speaker 7: rec room that they put a sign on interact your
Speaker 7: own risk. At first they had to take that down.
Speaker 10: Of course, there's.
Speaker 7: People that have had water damage as well. They don't
Speaker 7: do anything. They'll catch it up real quick and that's.
Speaker 4: It, all right. So a lot of people listen, Nancy, Nancy,
Speaker 4: can you move.
Speaker 7: I don't have the fun right now. I've been so thick.
Speaker 7: I have to travel to you see health from here,
Speaker 7: I haven't. I don't even immunities now that I believe that,
Speaker 7: I've gotten that, my body is fighting itself, sir, I'm
Speaker 7: losing my hair.
Speaker 16: I have nowhere to go.
Speaker 5: And they know this.
Speaker 7: That's the whole place. And they think you hear in
Speaker 7: places and don't take care of the issues.
Speaker 5: And I've never been sick in my life.
Speaker 14: I was at one seventy about four months ago. I'm
Speaker 14: at one forty two.
Speaker 7: I'm losing my hair. I'm getting sick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, people don't care.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 5: I can't even open.
Speaker 3: Yes, Nancy, really, seriously, we do care. If this story
Speaker 3: is even half true, it's terrible, and.
Speaker 7: It's two certain documentations. I would love to invite you
Speaker 7: to look for yourself. I have pictures, I have videos,
Speaker 7: I have everything that if anybody needs to see. Yes,
Speaker 7: it's it's getting worse here and our walls are still
Speaker 7: exposed to this day. So my wallet has, Nancy, no
Speaker 7: concrete nothing.
Speaker 4: Yes, we we will.
Speaker 3: We will make some phone calls.
Speaker 7: My family owned Chetny Park.
Speaker 14: They were good killers in the community.
Speaker 7: Okay, I know I've worked in hospitals, I worked in the.
Speaker 14: E R O RS.
Speaker 7: I know, you know, I know how to get rid
Speaker 7: of material that is not sanitary. They were sewing it
Speaker 7: in my front law.
Speaker 4: That I did.
Speaker 7: I have picture and video.
Speaker 3: Yes I do, sir, Hey, deputy doc, we need to
Speaker 3: look into this seriously. If these people in these apartments
Speaker 3: are being mishandled, we and mistreated, we we have to
Speaker 3: look into this.
Speaker 15: Doc.
Speaker 3: Hold on, Nancy, We're going to have someone call you
Speaker 3: off the air, and I promise you we will start
Speaker 3: looking into this doc this poornight. I'm not hearing. I'm
Speaker 3: not hearing uh an exaggeration here. I'm really not They're
Speaker 3: They're desperate. I really feel that. Okay, Brad wants to
Speaker 3: talk about an illegal search of his car right after this,
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Speaker 4: All right, three oh three seven one three eight two
Speaker 4: five five. We got two lines open. You got anything
Speaker 4: going on? You've been ripped off taking advantage of We
Speaker 4: definitely want to hear from you. Now, this one's interesting.
Speaker 4: We're going to go to this call. And here's the deal.
Speaker 4: Brad said he's got a possible issue with an illegal
Speaker 4: search of a car. Hey Brad, is it your car?
Speaker 10: Uh? Yes, it was my car?
Speaker 4: So what happened? Tell us the story?
Speaker 10: All right, So let me fast forward past the search
Speaker 10: because that's not the important part.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 10: The important part is when my vehicle was impounded. I
Speaker 10: live in Colorado Springs. This happened in Manitou Springs, which
Speaker 10: is just west of Colorado Springs, the impound lot. I
Speaker 10: went directly there once I was released from jail, and
Speaker 10: I proved I had to prove that was my vehicle
Speaker 10: by showing the tow company all sorts of documentation from insurance.
Speaker 4: To just show the registration of the car that would
Speaker 4: match your name on your driver's license. It's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 8: I think they need insurance before they release it, mark.
Speaker 10: They need all sorts of stuff. The problem therein lies.
Speaker 10: I had just purchased the vehicle, so I hadn't gotten
Speaker 10: it registered yet in my name. Okay, so all I
Speaker 10: had was insurance. I have, you know, all the documentation
Speaker 10: from the dealership that I bought it from.
Speaker 4: Got it so you had the bill of sale, you
Speaker 4: had everything.
Speaker 10: Everything, everything, and it was enough for them to let
Speaker 10: me into my vehicle to get some of my belongings out.
Speaker 10: What happened was I was supposed to come back in
Speaker 10: about two weeks with the money to pay get my
Speaker 10: truck out. The owner of the company disappeared once that
Speaker 10: two weeks came around, and second in charge told me,
Speaker 10: you know what, get over it. Your vehicle's already gone.
Speaker 4: What does that happen? Within? Wait a second, within how
Speaker 4: many days did this happen?
Speaker 10: I was in jail for ten days when I went
Speaker 10: directly to the TOE company.
Speaker 4: That was so hold on a second, Brad, I just
Speaker 4: want to make sure I got this timeframe somewhat straight.
Speaker 4: You get arrested, the car gets impounded, right, yep, and
Speaker 4: then you get out of jail ten days later, and
Speaker 4: your car is gone at that point or no, No,
Speaker 4: that's when they allowed you. That's when they allowed you
Speaker 4: to get stuff out of the car.
Speaker 10: Correct, And then I came up with the money.
Speaker 4: And then when did you come up with the money?
Speaker 4: How much longer?
Speaker 10: Well was it about two weeks later?
Speaker 11: It was?
Speaker 4: So we're still talking under a month's time. Now your
Speaker 4: car is no longer there, which.
Speaker 10: That month's time is a very important piece of information
Speaker 10: because legally TOE companies have thirty days. Once that thirty
Speaker 10: day mark hits, they can legally take possession of your vehicle.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I'm going to I'm not going to argue
Speaker 4: or talk about that part of it right now. What
Speaker 4: I want to know is, first of all, you're only
Speaker 4: talking about twenty four days. So you walked back there
Speaker 4: in twenty four days and they said too bad, so
Speaker 4: sad your car's already gone.
Speaker 10: In twenty four days. I called and said, hey, I
Speaker 10: have the money. Can I come get my vehicle? The
Speaker 10: secretary said, yes, your vehicle's here. Yes, it's going to
Speaker 10: be twenty two hundred dollars. I said, okay, my check.
Speaker 10: I'll had to check on Friday, which was just a
Speaker 10: couple of days later. Yeah, we had a time set
Speaker 10: to come up and get my vehicle. She and I
Speaker 10: was like, man, twenty two hundred, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 10: She said, you know what, before I let you go,
Speaker 10: hold on, let me put you on the phone with
Speaker 10: my supervisor. He might be able to work with you
Speaker 10: on the on the price.
Speaker 4: Okay, I got on the phone.
Speaker 10: His name is Dave, he's the second in charge. He
Speaker 10: told me, you know what, your car's already gone. Get
Speaker 10: over it.
Speaker 4: And where did he go? Where did the car go?
Speaker 10: Still there? I drove immediately up to the tow company
Speaker 10: and my truck was sitting in their line.
Speaker 4: What kind of car is it? Brad or truck?
Speaker 10: It was a twenty fourteen f one fifty and you
Speaker 10: just bought it.
Speaker 4: We know that, so you saw it there? Let me
Speaker 4: do this. I got to take this break, but I'm
Speaker 4: dying to know when you saw it there? Did you
Speaker 4: walk in? Did you say hey? You said it was gone,
Speaker 4: but it's right there? And then what did they say that?
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Speaker 4: All right, three oh three seven one three eight two
Speaker 4: five five three oh three Martino, you have any questions,
Speaker 4: We've got a couple hours to go here. I'm going
Speaker 4: to bring Brad back up though he got arrested. Brad,
Speaker 4: I do want to know why you got arrested though.
Speaker 4: What was that for because how I saw it at
Speaker 4: first was the illegal car search? So what was that?
Speaker 4: Did the charges get dropped? What happened?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I got pulled over for bid? What was it?
Speaker 5: Uh? I don't know why they pulled you over, but
Speaker 5: you didn't have insurance groups.
Speaker 10: So they pulled me over. I believe it was my
Speaker 10: license plate because the vehicle was brand new, so I
Speaker 10: had a paper license plate still the temp tag. Sure,
Speaker 10: so he said he couldn't. I believe he couldn't see
Speaker 10: what the tag said, So that was his BS reason.
Speaker 4: I guess, all right, that's fine. So what happened then?
Speaker 10: So they arrested me for.
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 10: Let me back up.
Speaker 4: Well, it's not that hard of a question. I mean,
Speaker 4: was it, DUI? What was it? Did you have a warrant?
Speaker 3: What was it?
Speaker 10: No insurance?
Speaker 4: They arrested you and put you in jail for thirty
Speaker 4: days for no insurance.
Speaker 10: The no insurance was the reason that they continued on
Speaker 10: with it when they did not find anything in my vehicle.
Speaker 10: They found a wallet that belonged to a very good
Speaker 10: friend of mine underneath the passenger seat that he had
Speaker 10: left there. Yeah, and they arrested me legitimately for identity sest.
Speaker 4: But it was a friend of yours?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, did that friend report the wallet stolen?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Well, then, Brad, none of this makes sense. Here's what
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do, though. I've got a criminal defense attorney
Speaker 4: coming on after this, and we're going to ask him
Speaker 4: about the rules when vehicles are towed and they're impounded,
Speaker 4: because he deals with DUIs constantly. We're going to figure
Speaker 4: out exactly that. I don't quite understand why you would
Speaker 4: do thirty days based upon your friend's wallet was underneath
Speaker 4: or I'm sorry, ten days your friend's wallet was under
Speaker 4: your seat. That makes no sense. Was there drugs in
Speaker 4: the car? Was the car stolen? Was there anything else
Speaker 4: that we should know?
Speaker 10: No, the car belonged to me. It was in cash
Speaker 10: from an inheritance that I received I paid for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you said, okay, but but I didn't mean did
Speaker 4: you steal it? I'm saying, did they find something else
Speaker 4: wrong with the vehicle? And then why would you spend
Speaker 4: ten days in jail based upon no insurance in that wallet?
Speaker 10: I don't get that waited I was waiting to see
Speaker 10: a judge.
Speaker 4: Interesting, All right, hold on, hold on, We're gonna let
Speaker 4: me put you on hold. I promise we're gonna get
Speaker 4: that attorney up and we're gonna figure out if there's
Speaker 4: anything we can do. When it comes to your car
Speaker 4: getting sold, it sounds like it got sold at auction,
Speaker 4: although where we left off, you're staring at it in
Speaker 4: the parking lot.
Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 4: Right now, Brad called in and this poor guy I
Speaker 4: got arrested. I'm still not quite understanding why you got arrested,
Speaker 4: but that's not really his question. He got pulled over.
Speaker 4: The license plate was one of these temporaries. And I'm
Speaker 4: kind of talking to Joe Lazara, our criminal defense expert,
Speaker 4: and I'll bring Joe up. He gets pulled over because
Speaker 4: he's got a tempt tag on the cops that he
Speaker 4: couldn't read it, and he did not have insurance on
Speaker 4: the vehicle or proof of insurance. I should say, Brad,
Speaker 4: actually that's a question. Did you actually have insurance or
Speaker 4: not proof of insurance?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: I had insurance, you just didn't have proof.
Speaker 10: I did have, but they they wouldn't even look at
Speaker 10: my phone for the proof of insurance.
Speaker 4: All right. And then but basically then what happened is
Speaker 4: they found a wallet after they searched the car. They
Speaker 4: used the tag. I guess what did they use? What
Speaker 4: reason did they use for the search?
Speaker 10: They couldn't read my license plate tag.
Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, I just want to Yeah, the reason
Speaker 4: I lost you for a second. Say it again.
Speaker 10: Bred they said they saw a meth pipe in my car.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, well you left that out. That's why they
Speaker 4: were searching your car. I mean, well, that's a pretty
Speaker 4: straightforward one. Was there a meth pipe in there or not.
Speaker 10: No, it was the end of a curtain rod.
Speaker 4: It was the end of a curtain rod. But that's
Speaker 4: why they searched it. Hey, Joe, first of all, just
Speaker 4: diving into this. Joe Lazara, he's on referral list dot com.
Speaker 4: He is our expert for personal injury. He has helped
Speaker 4: out so many listeners over the years, from DUIs to
Speaker 4: murder cases. It's unbelievable. But Joe, let me ask you
Speaker 4: right now. If they see a curtain rod and they
Speaker 4: think it's a meth pipe and they search the car
Speaker 4: based upon that evidence, when they find out it's a
Speaker 4: curtain rod, what happens anything?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, there's generally searches are illegal unless you
Speaker 11: have a warrant, but there are exceptions like search incidents
Speaker 11: or rest consent. If there's what's called a protective sweep,
Speaker 11: or do you have an inventory search, or they see
Speaker 11: something in plaint of view. So if they see something
Speaker 11: and suspect it's a meth pipe, once they inspect that
Speaker 11: and determine it, the question then toy come to that
Speaker 11: search continued. That's right, that's a big legal question. That's
Speaker 11: an argument whether or not they can continue to go
Speaker 11: beyond that. Well, apparently they can articulate those.
Speaker 4: Apparently in this case, Joe, they went beyond it and
Speaker 4: under his seat was a wallet and that wallet didn't
Speaker 4: belong to him, but according to the caller, Brad, it
Speaker 4: did belong to a really good friend of his. It
Speaker 4: must have dropped it in your vehicle. Brad, Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: but you just bought the vehicle when was your friend
Speaker 4: in it?
Speaker 10: Just a few days prior.
Speaker 4: Okay, so they found the wallet, and here's where I
Speaker 4: get a little lost on this, and I'm going to
Speaker 4: get to his actual question, but I'm just curious. So
Speaker 4: they arrested him, what exactly was to charge? They arrested
Speaker 4: you on, Bradh.
Speaker 10: Criminal impersonation, criminal criminal impersonation identity theft. I'm sorry thet
Speaker 10: did you tell them that you were somebody else?
Speaker 4: I mean, what if I was, if Joe was to
Speaker 4: talk to the cop. What would they say. They're going
Speaker 4: to say, because we found his friend's wallet under his seat,
Speaker 4: we threw him in jail for ten days. They're simply
Speaker 4: not going to tell us that. So what would they
Speaker 4: tell us? Right or wrong?
Speaker 10: So they thought they saw the MES pipe when it
Speaker 10: turns up it wasn't a MES pipe. They continued their
Speaker 10: search of my vehicle, hoping, planning on finding something, some
Speaker 10: sort of drug paraphernalia something. When they didn't and found
Speaker 10: the wallet, That's what they ended up going with, Brad.
Speaker 4: Why just you're acting like they had it out for
Speaker 4: you If they can't read the license plate and they
Speaker 4: pull you over to want to make sure that that
Speaker 4: license plate belongs on the vehicle, it's not a stolen vehicle.
Speaker 4: Why do you think they had it out for you?
Speaker 4: Did they run you? And you've been in a lot
Speaker 4: of trouble before, But why would a cop simply pull
Speaker 4: somebody over because they can't read the license plate and
Speaker 4: then look for a reason to throw them in jail.
Speaker 4: I don't understand.
Speaker 10: I didn't either, Joe.
Speaker 4: What do you Joe, just talk about that real quick.
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe I'm being too skeptical, but what helped
Speaker 4: me out here?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think he may have some legal issues. It's
Speaker 11: hard without knowing all the facts. But usually when you're
Speaker 11: dealing with identity that that's knowingly you or possessing someone
Speaker 11: else's personal or financial information without permission to gain something
Speaker 11: of value. And so there's got to be something going
Speaker 11: on that we're not being told.
Speaker 4: So another words, I arrested.
Speaker 11: You're generally in front of a judge within forty eight hours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what happened there, Brad?
Speaker 10: I wasn't in front of a judge in forty eight hours.
Speaker 10: It took ten days for me to see a judge.
Speaker 10: And immediately when I went in front of the judge,
Speaker 10: they dismissed all charges.
Speaker 4: What do you do it, Joe? Joe, this isn't even
Speaker 4: why he called wait till I tell you that. But
Speaker 4: what do you do with this point?
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, if that's the case, I mean, obviously
Speaker 11: he can seal that he wants to make sure that
Speaker 11: that's sealed, but he should talk to an attorney there. Hypothetically,
Speaker 11: I mean, I can't speak for this right now, though.
Speaker 11: No On Morman hypothetically may have a claim because if
Speaker 11: what he's saying is legit.
Speaker 4: It's false in prison made. Yes, I mean, that's the
Speaker 4: craziest thing ever, Brad. I just I'm so skeptical of
Speaker 4: your story. But here's what happened, Joe. Let's move on
Speaker 4: with this. So when he's arrested and he's in jail
Speaker 4: for ten days, the vehicle gets impounded, the vehicle. He
Speaker 4: gets out in ten days, and he can't afford to
Speaker 4: get the vehicle out of impound, so he's got to wait,
Speaker 4: make some money. He saves up the money, gets the money,
Speaker 4: goes or calls calls to the yard within twenty four days,
Speaker 4: according to him, twenty four days of the car getting towed. Okay, yes,
Speaker 4: they say it's they go ahead, had Brad tail Joe.
Speaker 4: They said they sold it.
Speaker 10: So I was in contact with them. I went to
Speaker 10: the shop. I talked to the owner in detail. I
Speaker 10: showed them all of my information. I was in contact
Speaker 10: with him over the phone, letting him know I was working,
Speaker 10: I'm making the money. I'll be there surely. Listen. I
Speaker 10: was living out of my vehicle at the time, all
Speaker 10: of my personal Brad.
Speaker 4: Stick to the story, though, Stick to the timeframe. Ten
Speaker 4: days you get out, When did they let you get
Speaker 4: stuff out of your vehicle.
Speaker 10: Gay Day eleven, Day.
Speaker 4: Eleven, Joe. They let him get stuff out, so apparently
Speaker 4: he could prove some way that it was his because
Speaker 4: they let him in the vehicle. Then he calls up
Speaker 4: it to twenty fourth day. Right, Yes, and what did
Speaker 4: they tell you?
Speaker 10: I had plans on coming back to get my vehicle.
Speaker 10: They all knew that. The owner of the company knew it.
Speaker 10: The owner of the company disappears. He goes on vacation
Speaker 10: to wherever. Nobody's telling me where the owner went. Gay
Speaker 10: twenty four. I call and say, listen, I have the money.
Speaker 10: I'll be there on Friday when I get my paycheck.
Speaker 10: The secretary said, yeah, your car's here. It's going to
Speaker 10: be twenty two hundred bucks. We'll see you on Friday.
Speaker 10: Before she hung up, she put me on the phone
Speaker 10: with the second in charge. That man Dave, his name's Dave.
Speaker 10: Told me your truck's already gone. Get over it, it's gone.
Speaker 10: You lost your vehicles.
Speaker 4: Then hold on, Ben, this is on the twenty fourth day.
Speaker 4: Is that correct?
Speaker 10: That's correct?
Speaker 4: Then you drive down there. Hold on, Brad. Then you
Speaker 4: drive down there and your truck is sitting there right
Speaker 4: it's still there.
Speaker 10: Correct. Then what happens then the same guy, Dave, who
Speaker 10: I talked to on the phone, as I'm looking at
Speaker 10: my vehicle, saying, you lied to me. My truck's right there,
Speaker 10: he said, What I meant is that your truck has
Speaker 10: already gone, as in, you don't own it anymore. It's
Speaker 10: now our vehicle.
Speaker 6: And that was on what towing company.
Speaker 4: Just it doesn't matter what the towing company is it, Dimitri,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I'll tell you why,
Speaker 4: because none of those laws apply. None of the laws
Speaker 4: you're thinking I apply on a police pull like this.
Speaker 4: This is all it's I know, no, I know. I'd
Speaker 4: still like to verify the story with the towing company
Speaker 4: and get their time. I got you, I got you,
Speaker 4: But Brad, finish up. So they're telling you you're staring
Speaker 4: at it. They're saying they already sold it.
Speaker 10: They already sold it. He said, all of my property
Speaker 10: has gone out of the vehicle. I have voice recordings
Speaker 10: of them saying that they gave my stuff to all
Speaker 10: the employees at the lot, which, oh, that's besides the
Speaker 10: point as well. But that's a lot more money missing
Speaker 10: right there. And that's it like they basically told me
Speaker 10: get off their line.
Speaker 4: And when was this? Now? I need to know this,
Speaker 4: and I want Joe to talk. How long ago was this?
Speaker 4: When was that twenty fourth day? Like last week? Or
Speaker 4: a year ago? What are we talking about?
Speaker 10: No, we're talking like a year and a half ago
Speaker 10: at this point.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, God, Well, how would we ever verify?
Speaker 4: Why didn't you lead with? Why are you calling a
Speaker 4: year and a half later, Brad, For the life of me.
Speaker 10: Listen, I went to the judge and I have a
Speaker 10: court order with a court case stating I'll read it
Speaker 10: to you right now, release the vehicle to Brad Koza
Speaker 10: my name immediately granted from the judge and taller Towney,
Speaker 10: I have a court case granted releases. When was that
Speaker 10: when I went to this is November third, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: Keep going.
Speaker 10: The reason it's the reason it's taken so long, Tom,
Speaker 10: is because I've exhausted so many other Brad.
Speaker 4: When you when you brought that, when you brought that
Speaker 4: order to the impound yard, what did they do.
Speaker 10: At me? And should get off of my yard? Or
Speaker 10: I'm calling all right?
Speaker 4: That's it now hold on now, I just want to
Speaker 4: hold on Joe. It's a lot to absorb. Let's take
Speaker 4: him at face value. What would you do?
Speaker 11: I mean, clearly, if what he's saying is true about
Speaker 11: the impound lot, I think they broke the law and
Speaker 11: there's some legitimate issues. The drawback is it's a year
Speaker 11: and a half later. I don't know, stop on my head.
Speaker 11: As statue of limitations, I don't.
Speaker 5: I would have to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would assume it's probably three years as well.
Speaker 4: But I mean, who would he hire to go after this?
Speaker 4: There's so many problems here. I mean you're talking about,
Speaker 4: first of all, should they thrown him in jail for
Speaker 4: ten days and then and they drop all the charges
Speaker 4: and the guy ends up losing his twenty fifteen f
Speaker 4: one fifty. I mean, the whole thing's insane. It's so
Speaker 4: hard to believe it went down this way, but you
Speaker 4: know what these stories happen.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it does sound insane. I mean, tell them to
Speaker 11: give us a call. I'd be weren't happy to chat
Speaker 11: with them. And if I were from out to somebody
Speaker 11: who might be able to handle that, I would want
Speaker 11: to verify the facts.
Speaker 4: And that's the main thing, is a verification. Hold on Joe,
Speaker 4: I got to take this break. I wanted to ask
Speaker 4: you a few generic questions. Brad, you stay on the line.
Speaker 4: Do you have a minute to hang Joe? Yeah? All right?
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Speaker 4: All right three three seven one three eight two five five. Hey,
Speaker 4: Joe Lazara, he is one of the best criminal defense
Speaker 4: attorneys I have ever met. Thank god I never had
Speaker 4: to use them, so I don't want to hear the
Speaker 4: jokes out there. But I wouldn't hesitate to call Joe
Speaker 4: if I ended up in a buy and there's no
Speaker 4: doubt about it, Joe, I wanted to ask you this.
Speaker 4: We heard Brad's story, and I'm not talking about necessarily
Speaker 4: the impound yard, although I think they screwed him and
Speaker 4: he's gonna call you. In fact, Kelly, make sure we
Speaker 4: give Brad Joe's office number and Joe will talk to
Speaker 4: him and kind of look into this and figure out
Speaker 4: what direction for Brad. But you know, when you hear
Speaker 4: a story like that, you get pulled over because you
Speaker 4: have a tempt tag on. Well, that's not supposed to happen.
Speaker 4: We all know that. What drives me crazy is I
Speaker 4: buy cars all the time. Right now, one of our
Speaker 4: cars has a TEMP tag on it, and I've never
Speaker 4: been pulled over because of a TEMP tag, So I
Speaker 4: don't know how often it happens. I'm sure it does happen.
Speaker 4: But then the guy claims Brad claims, and I believe him.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I don't believe them. But the guy
Speaker 4: goes we see a meth pipe, and they go to
Speaker 4: search for the meth pipe because that would be probable
Speaker 4: cause of course, and it turns out to be a
Speaker 4: shower rod. It's like, what the hell? And then they
Speaker 4: continue to search the vehicle, figuring they're going to find something,
Speaker 4: and they find a wallet, and apparently it's his friend's
Speaker 4: wallet that dropped it in the vehicle. He ends up
Speaker 4: getting arrested for false identity, but the friend apparently just
Speaker 4: said no, he didn't use my name or anything. He's
Speaker 4: a friend. I dropped the wallet in the vehicle. Then
Speaker 4: within twenty four days of this happening, he spends ten
Speaker 4: days in jail. Every charge is dismissed, according to him,
Speaker 4: and when he gets out, he can't get his vehicle
Speaker 4: back because they sold it. I mean, how often does
Speaker 4: something like that actually happen. I'm not talking about this case,
Speaker 4: but something so egregious. I mean, think about that, Joe.
Speaker 4: I mean, do you hear of real cases like that?
Speaker 11: You know, we'll come across a temporary getting pulled over
Speaker 11: on a temporary permit or you know, license ate they
Speaker 11: can't read it. Those issues, those pop up a little
Speaker 11: bit more frequently the other information, you know, the impound,
Speaker 11: the jail, the charges getting dismissed, all of that. I
Speaker 11: haven't seen anything like his case. And over thirty you know,
Speaker 11: I've been doing this over.
Speaker 17: Thirdy coming here to the party here. Just remember when
Speaker 17: he was stopped for that temp tag was twenty three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a long time.
Speaker 17: I was really caring about temp tags at that point
Speaker 17: in time, in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because of COVID. Yeah, you couldn't even get
Speaker 4: a tag. That's that's a hell of a good that's
Speaker 4: a good one. Dragon. I forgot about that DMV, like
Speaker 4: if they were even open. The appointments were a million
Speaker 4: years And well, remember this is Colorado Springs. I know
Speaker 4: in Denver, and I'm talking about just Denver, they would
Speaker 4: not pull you over for an out of date TEMP tag.
Speaker 4: I get it, but I don't know how Colorado Springs was.
Speaker 4: But good point. But Joe, my real I guess I
Speaker 4: don't know if I it's just a hard story to buy.
Speaker 4: I hate to believe that the cops are that bad,
Speaker 4: but we've all heard stories where the wrong person's been
Speaker 4: in jail or in prison, and things like that have
Speaker 4: been proven time and time again. So I just really
Speaker 4: wanted your thoughts on how often. I realize it's probably
Speaker 4: pretty slim pickings, but my god, it's got to happen
Speaker 4: to somebody at some time, right, I.
Speaker 11: Think mistakes happen, obviously. Police officers make mistakes. Sometimes they
Speaker 11: rush to judgment. I agree with that wholeheartedly. But I
Speaker 11: think for the most part, there are a lot of
Speaker 11: really good police officers that are trying to do their job.
Speaker 11: I don't see the mistakes as often as you know,
Speaker 11: the news may make it sound out, you know, sound.
Speaker 4: To be Yeah, well, if they reported on every valid arrest,
Speaker 4: my god, it would be every second of every day.
Speaker 4: Of course, they got to pick out the the unjust ones.
Speaker 4: I mean that makes sense, that's a news story, right.
Speaker 11: Yeah, In most part, I think the police do a
Speaker 11: really really good job.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, on that same side, note, if someone
Speaker 4: gets pulled over, like over a Memorial Day, you probably
Speaker 4: had some people with DUIs and stuff. I've asked you
Speaker 4: this a lot. If you're coming back from somewhere and
Speaker 4: basically they ask you, hey, have you had anything to drink?
Speaker 4: What's the best answer to give If you get pulled
Speaker 4: over for whatever and they say, hey, have you had
Speaker 4: anything to drink?
Speaker 11: You know, I think once you admit to drinking, you
Speaker 11: open that door to the dui investigation. So if you're
Speaker 11: impaired or you're over the legal limit, my answer would
Speaker 11: probably be no, not saying anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just say none.
Speaker 4: Just say no.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, And you know, I think one of the
Speaker 11: biggest changes we're seeing with regards to DUIs is before
Speaker 11: you used to be able to refuse. Now a lot
Speaker 11: of these jurisdictions, with the recent Supreme Court case, once
Speaker 11: you're refused, they just turn around, get a warrant, and
Speaker 11: they're drawing your blood anyway, so.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. So even if you refuse, they basically
Speaker 4: bring you to the hospital or wherever and get them
Speaker 4: to take your blood.
Speaker 11: Yeah, say that more and more often.
Speaker 4: That's pretty wild. Actually, I don't even know how I
Speaker 4: think about that. I mean, but if you do deny
Speaker 4: the breathalyzer, let me ask you this. If you deny
Speaker 4: the breath or blood test from the officer, and I
Speaker 4: don't mean the roadside I mean the one back at
Speaker 4: the station, the legit one. If you will, don't you
Speaker 4: lose your license for a year through DMV, which has
Speaker 4: nothing to do with the DUI. Is that part correct, right?
Speaker 11: So, if you refuse a chemical test blood of breath,
Speaker 11: you're looking at a refusals refusal is at least a
Speaker 11: one year revocation. You should be eligible to reinstate after
Speaker 11: two months no driving, but you're carrying that interlock for
Speaker 11: two years, and then what we're seeing is the police
Speaker 11: officers are marking you down as a refusal, hitting the warrant,
Speaker 11: drawing your blood anyway, and using that in the criminal case.
Speaker 4: Well that's what I was going to ask you. So
Speaker 4: if they get the warrant, get your blood, and bam,
Speaker 4: now they know you're DUI based upon the toxicology coming back,
Speaker 4: can they still say, can you still lose your license
Speaker 4: for that year through the DMV hearing? Because even though
Speaker 4: you real you said you refused, even though they ended
Speaker 4: up doing it anyhow.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so you're that's crazy harshment.
Speaker 4: So to refuse, right, So, to refuse in most municipalities,
Speaker 4: or most counties, or the state of Colorado for that matter,
Speaker 4: speaking in general terms, is stupid. I mean, like really stupid,
Speaker 4: because you're going to be in worse trouble even if
Speaker 4: you are DUI.
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, I have a quick question.
Speaker 8: Yeah, do people use that as a stalling technique to
Speaker 8: hope that by the time that they get the warrant,
Speaker 8: they're alcohols and metabolize good question below the limit.
Speaker 4: They do?
Speaker 11: They do, And that's one advantage of that. If you're
Speaker 11: highly intoxicated. Your BAC is going to go down because
Speaker 11: it could take anywhere from you know, thirty minutes to
Speaker 11: get that warrant to several hours.
Speaker 4: Well, how long let's say, how long on average do
Speaker 4: you think if someone does refuse from the get go,
Speaker 4: how long if they had to go through the warrant
Speaker 4: and everything would be an average time, would it be
Speaker 4: like two hours?
Speaker 11: Joe, it's at least probably an hour hour and a half.
Speaker 4: Okay, So with that point, how for the typical person
Speaker 4: whatever that means, how much does that drop down in
Speaker 4: an hour and a half? In other words, if their point,
Speaker 4: what's the legal limit? Point eight point zero eight zero
Speaker 4: zero eight? So how much let's say it there at
Speaker 4: a what would that be like a one point two
Speaker 4: or whatever? In an hour and a half would that
Speaker 4: drop down below the legal limit? Most likely?
Speaker 15: No, I mean what you're really looking at.
Speaker 11: I mean you're losing about point zero one five percent
Speaker 11: of alcohol for every hour, maybe a little bit more
Speaker 11: point zero two.
Speaker 4: Oh, you'd have to be you'd have to be borderline
Speaker 4: for that to even take effect. That would be a
Speaker 4: horrible way of thinking. Then I'm going to go ahead
Speaker 4: and refuse a breathalyzer based upon this thing dropping by
Speaker 4: a half a point, which means you're probably lit as hell, right.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean does it sometimes help Absolutely, For the
Speaker 11: most part, doesn't make much of the difference.
Speaker 4: And it never hurts. Well, yeah does here because you're refusing,
Speaker 4: and then you lose your license period of end of story,
Speaker 4: for a year, and you're still facing the DUI criminal charges.
Speaker 4: That's that's why it hurts.
Speaker 11: Okay, So I thought somebody who refused lost his license
Speaker 11: on the refusal has to care that interlock longer. Ultimately
Speaker 11: they got the warrant, drew his blood. It was below
Speaker 11: the point zero way, So had he taken the test,
Speaker 11: he would never have had that DMB issue or loss
Speaker 11: of license.
Speaker 4: So he literally was he wasn't even DUI and still
Speaker 4: lost his license for a year and he couldn't even
Speaker 4: use an interlock.
Speaker 15: Right.
Speaker 4: That's like a hard that's a hard lose.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So, had he just taken the test, he would never
Speaker 11: have had the interlock. Because it refused, he's required to
Speaker 11: hear that interlock.
Speaker 4: That's crazy. Hey, Joe Lazara, you guys, I know, and
Speaker 4: when I do your spots, I always say this, man,
Speaker 4: you're incredible. You have helped out so many listeners. People.
Speaker 4: I'm going to give the number out, put it in
Speaker 4: your phone, but it doesn't matter. And I'm not kidding
Speaker 4: around domestic violence, child abuse, DUI's murder, anything. If you're
Speaker 4: accused of a crime, you need this guy and Joe.
Speaker 4: People think I'm crazy. I've always gotten email saying, hey,
Speaker 4: you say Joe knows all the das and judges. Tell
Speaker 4: me that's not true. Man, I know you know them.
Speaker 4: But my point is if the judge doesn't respect you,
Speaker 4: if the DA doesn't respect you in that courtroom, your
Speaker 4: chance is as in an attorney cutting a deal. It's
Speaker 4: just a lot harder, is I mean? Relationships count? Correct?
Speaker 16: They do.
Speaker 11: Relationships count in everyday life, and it's no different in
Speaker 11: the judicial world.
Speaker 4: No different at all, which is crazy man. People go, well,
Speaker 4: it's not fair the laws of law. No, it's just
Speaker 4: like anything else. If Joe knows the das and Joe
Speaker 4: knows everybody in that department, for example, Douglas County or
Speaker 4: wherever you are, Denver County, think about that. You want
Speaker 4: someone that has a relationship or repport with the people
Speaker 4: charging you if you're guilty. So we can get the
Speaker 4: best deal. It's simple as that. Joe is there. I
Speaker 4: appreciate you coming on, and Brad Kelly's going to give
Speaker 4: you Joe's number. Call him up and I'm dying to
Speaker 4: hear back from you. If you want to uh, go
Speaker 4: after those guys, and I mean those guys meaning everybody
Speaker 4: involved in that crazy case you had Joe Lazara three
Speaker 4: oh three four nine sixty two hundred. And also don't
Speaker 4: forget on things like DUIs. This guy does flat rate
Speaker 4: pricing three oh three four two nine sixty two hundred,
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Speaker 4: All right, three oh three, seven one three eight two
Speaker 4: five five three oh three, Martino, You know, I was
Speaker 4: just telling Kelly when I was fourteen. Actually I think
Speaker 4: I was younger than that. I've been a talk radio
Speaker 4: junkie forever. Dragon. Are you a talk rady radio junkie
Speaker 4: or like, when you're in the car, do you listen
Speaker 4: to music or do you listen to like your favorite
Speaker 4: podcast or do you listen to am?
Speaker 17: When I worked down on the FMS, I would float
Speaker 17: around all those different stations and figure out what the
Speaker 17: competition's doing.
Speaker 4: But now that I'm up here on the AM side, yeah.
Speaker 17: I do tend to listen more as to whatever else
Speaker 17: is going on, see if I can figure out what
Speaker 17: to do, what to do better.
Speaker 4: I growing up, I you know, my friends would be
Speaker 4: listening to music. I just fell asleep listening to talk radio,
Speaker 4: and back then it was talking at it was ah
Speaker 4: well yeah, doctor Laura, of course, but then you had
Speaker 4: Bruce williams uh Sally, Jesse Rafael, all these people. But
Speaker 4: I remember one time when I was pretty young, I
Speaker 4: was in middle school, and I called up doctor Laura
Speaker 4: and I told her that I got my girlfriend pregnant
Speaker 4: and didn't know how to tell my parents complete fabrication.
Speaker 4: But I always wanted to be on the air after
Speaker 4: listening to a talk show. But the part of the
Speaker 4: story that's absolutely insane is my uncle who lived in
Speaker 4: New York. We lived in Oklahoma at the time. My
Speaker 4: uncle that lived in New York heard the call because
Speaker 4: he loved listening to Doctor Laura, recognized my voice and
Speaker 4: called my parents, tell me that's not the damnest. Fantastic, Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I wasn't in any trouble. I mean,
Speaker 4: what are they going to say. I mean, it was like, no,
Speaker 4: I just had to convince him no one was pregnant,
Speaker 4: which wasn't hard to do because I didn't even have
Speaker 4: a girlfriend. So I mean, that wasn't that hard. But
Speaker 4: I don't know. Okay, so let's go to Mark, Mark,
Speaker 4: what is going on with you? What is your question
Speaker 4: about social Security or your issue?
Speaker 15: So I have my my mother in law has lived
Speaker 15: with us for about five to six years total, but
Speaker 15: about a year, about two years ago, she went to
Speaker 15: live with her other daughter just on the other side
Speaker 15: of town here locally got it and when she came back,
Speaker 15: all of a sudden, well, where's your How come your
Speaker 15: Social Security checks or half of what they used to be?
Speaker 15: I want to I'm not positive on the dollar amounts.
Speaker 15: I think it was like eleven hundred dollars that she
Speaker 15: would get a month, eight hundred and eleven.
Speaker 7: Something like that.
Speaker 15: And now she comes back two years ago from the
Speaker 15: sister in law and she's only getting checks for five
Speaker 15: hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Is the sister in law a caregiver and she's receiving
Speaker 4: the money?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Where did it go? You must have done some research?
Speaker 15: She Well, I am not the one, necessili it's my wife.
Speaker 15: We got We've got into a discussion last night. Well
Speaker 15: where is a Why is this happening? I mean, I
Speaker 15: don't need the money from her. It's not like we're
Speaker 15: getting the money and doing anything with it.
Speaker 4: She lives as a basement, so you're wondering what happened
Speaker 4: to it?
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's her spending money. So she has some money
Speaker 15: to go whatever.
Speaker 4: You call on.
Speaker 15: But now she's only getting five hundred Ye sorry, now
Speaker 15: she's only getting five hundred dollars a month or like?
Speaker 15: What's going on? So they say they call up, spend
Speaker 15: three hours, get through to Social Security? Oh yeah, that's wrong.
Speaker 15: You should be getting this and we can backdate that
Speaker 15: and you'll get all this money.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 15: Okay, well that's been a year now. They've been doing that,
Speaker 15: and she says every time they go, that's what they say,
Speaker 15: but then it never happens. They call back, spend three
Speaker 15: hours waiting talk to somebody. She said, no, we have
Speaker 15: the notes, we have the names of persons we talked to.
Speaker 15: What dates all of that? She says, And it's like, so,
Speaker 15: is there an advocate somebody we can go that we
Speaker 15: can call? It doesn't take three hours to talk to it.
Speaker 4: I would make I would make an appointment at a
Speaker 4: local office somewhere in Denver. There is one, for sure,
Speaker 4: depending on what area you're in. You can search on
Speaker 4: the Social Security website, but I would go down in person.
Speaker 4: They're going to have the ability to pull up all
Speaker 4: the notes and everything going on with this. I do
Speaker 4: have a question, though, when did her spouse pass away?
Speaker 4: If she even had a spouse, Oh, god, decades okay,
Speaker 4: decades ago, So it's not going to be like she
Speaker 4: converted to spousal benefits. What I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 4: is what kind of mistake could have been made? And
Speaker 4: what are they telling you? Guys? Are they giving you
Speaker 4: any information? I acknowledge, they acknowledge that it's wrong, and
Speaker 4: I get they can't fix it, But are they telling
Speaker 4: you what happened? Why it did cut in half? Did
Speaker 4: she apparently or did they think at one point she
Speaker 4: owed money or she was getting too much money or what?
Speaker 15: No, No, it wasn't anything like that. I don't know
Speaker 15: what the sister in law did. H that's a that's
Speaker 15: a family thing, and I'm gonna stay out of that argument.
Speaker 4: But but Mark, the sister in law. You're sure the
Speaker 4: sister in law isn't getting any money out of this
Speaker 4: check as a caregiver. You're you're sure of that? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 4: it's so odd. I can't think for a million years
Speaker 4: why it would happen. But my god, the government is
Speaker 4: so huge. Why do you even think the sister in
Speaker 4: law then would have anything to.
Speaker 15: Do with it? She said, so, she she had somebody
Speaker 15: who said, you worked for the Social Security and she's
Speaker 15: an advocate or something, and they were trying to do it.
Speaker 15: It got screwed up and as they dropped her feet,
Speaker 15: it's like great, marvelous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to listen just get down No, you,
Speaker 4: you and her need to go down not not just her,
Speaker 4: just you. You and her need to make an appointment.
Speaker 4: You got to carve the time out of your day
Speaker 4: and get down there with her to the office and
Speaker 4: understand what's going on, because something is a miss. I
Speaker 4: still would like to know where that money's going. Maybe
Speaker 4: you can figure it out. To me, I keep going
Speaker 4: back to caregiver, meaning it might not be your sister
Speaker 4: in law, but maybe whatever she did diverted some of
Speaker 4: her check somewhere else. I mean, something happened, and you've
Speaker 4: got to get down there and get it figured out.
Speaker 4: And when you do it in person, it tends to
Speaker 4: work a lot quicker.
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, that's what I had said. That was the
Speaker 15: end of the air quote discussion.
Speaker 4: We had last night.
Speaker 18: Well, then make the bloody appointment and let's go down there.
Speaker 18: She said it's going to take a one to two months,
Speaker 18: and said, well it'll it'll take forever if you never
Speaker 18: set up from one month from now. Anyway, I digress
Speaker 18: from that.
Speaker 4: That's what you got to do. And when you're down there,
Speaker 4: you can ask about a true advocate if you need one.
Speaker 4: I have a feeling you don't need one, just based
Speaker 4: on what you told me. They just got to correct
Speaker 4: something in the system. But get down there with her
Speaker 4: and do it in person. It's really not that hard
Speaker 4: to find an appointment if you're willing to drive a
Speaker 4: little bit. Denver's probably extremely busy, yeah, compared to Colorado
Speaker 4: Springs or somewhere else. So just get that figured out. Now. Listen,
Speaker 4: we've got a lot more going. We got another hour up, Lark,
Speaker 4: I promise you're up next. Apparently he's got some roof damage,
Speaker 4: so we know a ton about that, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have some lines open. I'd love to hear from you.
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Speaker 4: These guys are chomping on the bit for a case.
Speaker 4: Kelly's answering your calls, dragging on the other side, running
Speaker 4: the board, running the show. And Lark has a question,
Speaker 4: what an interesting name, Lark? Is that your god give
Speaker 4: a name?
Speaker 5: Actually, my name is a Larkias.
Speaker 4: LARKI uh, wow, where did that come from? I'm just
Speaker 4: I have never heard that name Larkia?
Speaker 16: And well it was a very close friend of my
Speaker 16: mom's that she liked really well. And wow, she liked
Speaker 16: your name, so she gave it to me.
Speaker 4: Well that's interesting. You know, I'm Mark with a C.
Speaker 4: So I always end up telling people that I would
Speaker 4: assume you end up spelling your name a lot like
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 18: Oh, yes, yes, yes, you know what, Michael, you just.
Speaker 4: Made me think of something. I'll go right to your question, Lark.
Speaker 4: But my grandmother when my wife was pregnant, my grandmother
Speaker 4: was still alive, which was great. She sat us down
Speaker 4: and said the one thing I hope you don't do,
Speaker 4: and I'll be very upset if you do do is
Speaker 4: give that granddaughter my name. And she was so serious.
Speaker 4: Her name was Hortense. Now, how many Hortenses have you met?
Speaker 4: It reminds me of like Gertrude, and she was dead serious.
Speaker 4: So our daughter is not wretense lark. What's your question?
Speaker 6: Well, the storm that.
Speaker 16: Team threw down just a little south and west of
Speaker 16: Talcaraka on Sunday, Yeah, I'm pretty good at hail was crazy.
Speaker 16: And then starting that was like get six something in
Speaker 16: the evening, and then starting the next day, the doors
Speaker 16: were just getting you know, being done by everybody. And
Speaker 16: I went out with a guy. He actually noticed we
Speaker 16: have a barn just a little ways from our house
Speaker 16: and the skylights were both broken and we noticed that
Speaker 16: and so we ended up walking around looking at everything.
Speaker 16: He went and got some turbs because it was going
Speaker 16: to rain Monday.
Speaker 4: Now this is a roof for I assume.
Speaker 16: Well, so then the company is Anderson's Construction and they're
Speaker 16: located in Denver.
Speaker 15: That was the first thing I said was are you local?
Speaker 16: Because I was, you know, not wanting to deal with
Speaker 16: someone who wasn't and so consequently he went and got
Speaker 16: turbs and went up on the burn roofs and nailed
Speaker 16: those down before the rain. Now we didn't sign anything good,
Speaker 16: but you know, I guess you know after the fact.
Speaker 16: And I've talked to him on the phone again. He's
Speaker 16: the project manager, he says, and he seems like a
Speaker 16: good guy. He also lives just a little bit east
Speaker 16: of Castle Rock and has offered like, if the Turks
Speaker 16: came lose, I'll come over. He seems like a great guy,
Speaker 16: but I just don't know. When I went to the
Speaker 16: website at Salty and see it looks very nice. Yeah,
Speaker 16: but I'm like, oh my gosh, I wonder if you
Speaker 16: guys have ever had complaints about that.
Speaker 4: Well, no, not that I can recall, meaning I'm not sure,
Speaker 4: but I don't think so. I wouldn't use him, though,
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you why. I don't like people that
Speaker 4: come to my house and try to sell me a
Speaker 4: roof after a hailstorm. I simply don't trust them. I
Speaker 4: really don't. Now, I'll give you one example where I
Speaker 4: might if my neighbor hired them and they were literally
Speaker 4: doing the roof and basically stopped by and said, hey,
Speaker 4: you know, we're doing your next door neighbor's roof. And
Speaker 4: then I would of course talk to my neighbor figure
Speaker 4: out how we got them. Maybe, but pretty much I'm
Speaker 4: sold on one company in Colorado, or at least in
Speaker 4: Denver Metro and that's Excel Roofing, And they also do
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff in the springs. But I just
Speaker 4: you don't pay a cent to your content. They're honest
Speaker 4: as a day. As long their crews are very clean,
Speaker 4: efficient and fast, you're not going to find a lot
Speaker 4: of nails there. And then probably the most important part
Speaker 4: is this, well, actually that don't pay a cent to
Speaker 4: your contents pretty important. But if there's a problem later on,
Speaker 4: these guys operate twenty four to seven. A lot of
Speaker 4: these companies, you know, they'll come knocking on your door
Speaker 4: after the hailstorm, but if you've got a problem a
Speaker 4: year from now, you can't even find them, or they
Speaker 4: don't have crews that are operating because they're chasing a
Speaker 4: storm in Oklahoma or wherever they happen to be. But
Speaker 4: if you if you didn't sign anything with them, and
Speaker 4: one of the tactics these companies use is exactly what
Speaker 4: you described and you probably didn't even realize it. They
Speaker 4: come out and point out stuff and act like they're
Speaker 4: your best friend and throw a tarp up and help
Speaker 4: you and all that kind of stuff. And that's part
Speaker 4: of the tactics they use. I'm telling you you, i'd
Speaker 4: call Excel if you're in the Castle Rock area. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't even think twice about it.
Speaker 5: Well, and I know there.
Speaker 16: I think they were not going to endorse too, actually,
Speaker 16: because several of the neighbors had their signs like that
Speaker 16: very next day.
Speaker 4: Excel.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: And you know, well Excel, let me give you an idea.
Speaker 4: They're huge and most of their repeat business is crazy,
Speaker 4: meaning well it's Colorado. There's people that get a new
Speaker 4: roof every three or four years. And once people use Excel,
Speaker 4: they almost imediately use them again. And I'm going to
Speaker 4: tell you something else about Let me ask you about Anderson.
Speaker 4: Here's a question for him. Here's what I do. Any company,
Speaker 4: is there an out on your contract? If you don't
Speaker 4: start work or deliver materials? Can I get out of
Speaker 4: your contract? And if so, where is it? Where is it?
Speaker 4: Where is it? Because let's say you sign it next thing,
Speaker 4: you know, they can't start for two months, or you
Speaker 4: sign it and something just doesn't seem right, or you
Speaker 4: read a review, or something happens that's really bothering you.
Speaker 4: Before they deliver, make sure they'll let you out of
Speaker 4: the contract. Make sure that's in writing, because Excel, if
Speaker 4: they don't start the job, or if they don't deliver materials,
Speaker 4: they'll let you out of the contract. Simple as that.
Speaker 16: Okay, okay, all right, So I should give them a.
Speaker 6: Jingle, I guess.
Speaker 4: Just go to Excel Roofing. I mean, they're one of
Speaker 4: the largest roofers in Colorado for a reason. They're honestly
Speaker 4: great people and I can't stress that enough. Lark. They
Speaker 4: have done my roof, they have done Tom's roof, They
Speaker 4: have done so many people's roofs in this building it's crazy.
Speaker 4: And they're just always there. They use great material, they
Speaker 4: have great contacts across the state when it comes to manufacturers.
Speaker 4: In fact, I think they're the largest customer of some
Speaker 4: of these shingle companies in the state. If there's ever
Speaker 4: an issue with the product, they can get the warranties
Speaker 4: handled because they do so much business with them. There's
Speaker 4: so many reasons to use them. I can't even like
Speaker 4: tell you all of them. But the real basic I
Speaker 4: want you to remember, and this isn't just for you.
Speaker 4: Never pay a roofer upfront. Never ever, ever pay a
Speaker 4: roofer upfront. Is the number one thing you pay when
Speaker 4: you're done.
Speaker 16: Nothing before they're.
Speaker 4: Done, Nothing before they're done.
Speaker 16: They did say they took that actual cash value when
Speaker 16: the insurance brings that in. They take that before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they take that before they probably even order materials.
Speaker 4: How do you know that doesn't And I'm not saying
Speaker 4: Anderson does this, That's not my point, but I know
Speaker 4: a lot of roofers do do this. They take that
Speaker 4: money to finish another job that they already spent that
Speaker 4: money on, because they took that money to spend on
Speaker 4: another job that they already spent that money on. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you realized that salesperson that knocked on your door the
Speaker 4: second you signed that contract. What happens is they get
Speaker 4: paid the second that person signs that contract. If Anderson's
Speaker 4: like a lot of these other companies, they get their commission,
Speaker 4: their cut. I don't know if it's ten percent, I
Speaker 4: don't know. Whatever it is is what it is. So
Speaker 4: that's why most companies will never let you out of
Speaker 4: the contract because they already paid that salesperson.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 16: And then the other question I had real quick too,
Speaker 16: is so I'll see our insurance and the inspector is
Speaker 16: coming Sunday.
Speaker 4: Boy, I wish you. I wish you called Excel, but
Speaker 4: you said you had a crack skylight. So I get it.
Speaker 4: But go ahead.
Speaker 16: So is that a problem though if there isn't a
Speaker 16: representative to be here to do that, well, there's two.
Speaker 4: Ways to look at it. I'm gonna put you on
Speaker 4: hold because after those hailstorms, I do want to talk
Speaker 4: about this. There's an educational point to that question that
Speaker 4: I want everybody to understand, because you're right, you're gonna
Speaker 4: be dealing with one side. You're gonna be dealing with
Speaker 4: your insurance company when they send out an adjuster. Should
Speaker 4: you have an adjuster? Is an absolute great question. Three
Speaker 4: oh three, Martino, we'll be right back.
Speaker 3: Go with a sure thing, Denver's Best roofer Excel roofing
Speaker 3: dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content.
Speaker 3: Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation. In comparison,
Speaker 3: call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens
Speaker 3: of insurance companies. Find out now three oh three, seven
Speaker 3: to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only
Speaker 3: customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate man
Speaker 3: dot Com to list your home with Remax Alliance three
Speaker 3: oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.
Speaker 4: All right, three oh three seven one three eight two
Speaker 4: five five three zero three Martino. By the way, this
Speaker 4: hour brought to you by a Genesis Total Exteriors. You know,
Speaker 4: Mark has painted the inside of our house and now
Speaker 4: the outside. He just did the inside of our house,
Speaker 4: absolutely gorgeous job. I love his guys.
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Speaker 4: The other thing I love about Genesis, and I'll say
Speaker 4: this if you do have a damage from Hale, they
Speaker 4: do do roofs, but they also can do a lot
Speaker 4: of the other stuff. They can do siding and windows,
Speaker 4: they can do anything on the exterior, and they're very
Speaker 4: good at finding the damage. They can basically find deck damage.
Speaker 4: They can do it all. They're just great guys. Mark's
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Speaker 4: Now what I did want to do is I want
Speaker 4: to get right back and talk to Lark. Lark. You
Speaker 4: can hire what's called a public adjuster, and basically here's
Speaker 4: what a public adjust does. They represent you. The insurance
Speaker 4: company has their own adjuster. A public adjuster like Matt
Speaker 4: you hire. Typically, if you hire them from the get go,
Speaker 4: they get paid ten percent. So if the claims one
Speaker 4: hundred thousand, you would pay him ten thousand. But he
Speaker 4: generally almost always ends up making his through your insurance company,
Speaker 4: meaning don't you don't have anything out of pocket most
Speaker 4: of the time, and he can look at your policy
Speaker 4: and tell you that's it. There's something called overhead and profit,
Speaker 4: and most of these policies meaning if you have damage
Speaker 4: to more than one thing, So your roof would be one,
Speaker 4: your skylights could be one, your sighting could be one,
Speaker 4: your landscaping could be one, anything if you have multiple
Speaker 4: different things. Most insurance policies say you can get ten
Speaker 4: percent overhead and profit. So basically that's where his ten
Speaker 4: percent comes from. You would never get that yourself. That
Speaker 4: would always go to a general contractor. But Matt basically
Speaker 4: kind of becomes that in a way, but he usually
Speaker 4: gets paid out of that. So I don't want people
Speaker 4: to think you end up paying more. But here's what
Speaker 4: a public adjuster does. They're going to find all the damage. Matt,
Speaker 4: for example, did team up with Genesis, and between Genesis,
Speaker 4: the construction company that I just did a commercial for,
Speaker 4: and Matt, they go out and they find everything. I mean,
Speaker 4: they look at the roof, they look at the gutters,
Speaker 4: they look at the outbuildings, they look at the siding,
Speaker 4: they look at the deck, they look at the landscaping,
Speaker 4: they look at the cement, they look at any possible thing.
Speaker 4: And one of the big ones insurance companies hate, absolutely
Speaker 4: hate his windows. Windows don't have to be broken. You
Speaker 4: can break that little seam at the bottom to where
Speaker 4: the air comes out in between the glass, in between
Speaker 4: the panels. Those seals can be broke into the naked eye.
Speaker 4: You'd never know it, but they in most policies are
Speaker 4: covered at that point. And insurance companies hate that because
Speaker 4: you could easily be looking at fifty to one hundred
Speaker 4: grand for new windows in any given property. So you
Speaker 4: really it is good to have someone out there for you,
Speaker 4: there's no doubt about it, especially if it's more than
Speaker 4: just roof damage. What I would do in your case,
Speaker 4: I would probably call and hire Matt from the beginning,
Speaker 4: or have Excel come out and meet. If you're just
Speaker 4: worried about the roof right now, if that's the main
Speaker 4: thing right now, have Excel come out. They will send
Speaker 4: somebody out if they can, and they probably can at
Speaker 4: this point to meet with your adjuster while the adjuster's there,
Speaker 4: But you got to call them and see if they
Speaker 4: can do that. Tell them you called into the show,
Speaker 4: and I bet they can make that happen. Then they
Speaker 4: can represent you on the roof side, but hold on,
Speaker 4: they represent you on the roof side. Excel will end
Speaker 4: up doing the roof and then you can have Matt
Speaker 4: come out or Matt's people come out and they can
Speaker 4: look at any other damage. Or you can call Matt
Speaker 4: at the beginning and he'll bring his people and you
Speaker 4: can do it numerous ways. But if they're only going
Speaker 4: to say the only damage they sees the roof, you
Speaker 4: better call your own adjuster because they're lying.
Speaker 16: Okay, yeah, yeah no. When we worked around he said this,
Speaker 16: definitely there's impact on the pain in the sighting. We
Speaker 16: have a window that a plastic.
Speaker 5: Part is broken.
Speaker 4: That's why you want you want to call it. You
Speaker 4: definitely want to call Matt. They know how to maximize
Speaker 4: this stuff. In other words, here's what I'll tell you.
Speaker 4: I would guess if your insurance guy came out and
Speaker 4: no one else was there, someone that didn't understand everything
Speaker 4: but the roof, I'll tell you I bet they'd off
Speaker 4: for you thirty thousand or whatever. And then that's about
Speaker 4: where it would be. Where if you have someone like
Speaker 4: Matt and there's skylights and windows and stuff involved, I mean,
Speaker 4: your claim could be well over one hundred thousand. There's
Speaker 4: two different times my insurance come company basically said I
Speaker 4: didn't have any damage in zero after a hailstorm, and
Speaker 4: I hired Matt both times. One time I got seventy
Speaker 4: eight thousand dollars and that was basically a new roof
Speaker 4: on my barn, a new roof on the house. And
Speaker 4: I also had the entire exterior of the house painted
Speaker 4: by Genesis with that insurance claim. And remember they said
Speaker 4: I had nothing, They said I had no damage. And
Speaker 4: then last year I had the same thing, but it
Speaker 4: was only thirty six thousand dollars. So I mean there
Speaker 4: are liars. I don't care. There's adjusters listening to me
Speaker 4: right now, going, well, I don't lie. Yeah, well, all
Speaker 4: they do is adjust down. I've never seen someone that
Speaker 4: works for an insurance company adjust up.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, so that's what I would do.
Speaker 7: Number.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hold on a second, Kelly, would you pull up
Speaker 4: Paragon's number and give that to her? Hold on a second,
Speaker 4: let me put you there, Hey, tell him, Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: I want you to call back Lark and tell me
Speaker 4: how it went.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, sure, well.
Speaker 4: Thank you? Three oh three seven one three A two
Speaker 4: five five. Hey, Chris discount bath dot com. You guys
Speaker 4: almost never end up in insurance claims.
Speaker 11: Do you.
Speaker 12: No, not, not too frequently. It's usually handled by the
Speaker 12: time we're there.
Speaker 4: What's your biggest Like, not your biggest, but what's your
Speaker 4: average call? Is it a tub to shower conversion or
Speaker 4: a full remodel. I know you do the whole gambit,
Speaker 4: but what's the average call.
Speaker 12: The average call is probably a full bathroom remodel, and
Speaker 12: it's usually the hall bath.
Speaker 4: The hall bath. Yeah, so well, now why is that
Speaker 4: why I thought you would have said the master bathroom.
Speaker 4: We do a lot of master bathrooms, but it's not
Speaker 4: our average call. I wonder why that is. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. Because everybody sees all your guests
Speaker 4: see that hall bath.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and it's usually used by more people than just
Speaker 12: the Yeah it's the one you present. Yeah, so the
Speaker 12: kids and family, everybody's using that same bath. So yeah,
Speaker 12: people are often remodeling that bathroom completely. We do a
Speaker 12: lot of shower own We do a lot of master bathrooms,
Speaker 12: but we probably do the most as a halt.
Speaker 4: You know, I was talking to someone the other day
Speaker 4: in your industry and I asked this question. On TV.
Speaker 4: You see these ads all the time for these companies
Speaker 4: that come in and sometimes they can do it in
Speaker 4: one day, maybe two days. But they rip out that
Speaker 4: old tub and then they put in this big insert
Speaker 4: like not different walls, they go together, but like one
Speaker 4: big plastic piece and that plastic piece is now the
Speaker 4: shower or a bath shower, but it's like one piece.
Speaker 4: They come in, they demo, they prep and then put
Speaker 4: this in and that's the shower.
Speaker 12: Do you guys do those We don't do the one piece.
Speaker 12: They're typically cheap and they don't necessarily fit. So the
Speaker 12: stuff that we do, we tear down to the studs,
Speaker 12: subfloor and everything goes in new backer board, acrylic walls.
Speaker 12: Yeah you don't want leaks. Yeah, you don't want leaks.
Speaker 12: So everything's new. If we touch it, it's warrantyed. So
Speaker 12: it's all the way down and we start, it's.
Speaker 4: All the way down. Yeah, and then it's good quality material.
Speaker 12: We got lots of choices there, you know, from from
Speaker 12: acrylic to crushed stone to porcelain walls, porcelain tile.
Speaker 4: If you have an old bathtub and they want to
Speaker 4: get rid of it and just convert it to a shower,
Speaker 4: and they're on a super budget, I mean, like, give
Speaker 4: me a real idea, I mean less than ten thousand
Speaker 4: just for the conversion.
Speaker 12: Yeah, just under ten thousand tub to shower, complete project,
Speaker 12: including the glass, everything out, the door, warranty everything is.
Speaker 4: Nine eighty eight. Oh that's cheap.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you can upgrade that, but it's under ten. Does
Speaker 12: that include yep, new plumbing, delta fixtures.
Speaker 4: That's the whole thing. It's the whole thing. That's a
Speaker 4: great deal. Actually, yeah, and that's kind of that. Is
Speaker 4: that your average ticket there or most people want to
Speaker 4: add on to that. Well, most people want to add on,
Speaker 4: But you guys can do like you could do a
Speaker 4: steam shower, no problem. Yeah, we do steam showers. I
Speaker 4: love my steam shower. Yeah, they're pretty good. They're cool. Man,
Speaker 4: heated floors, that's a big deal. That's my favorite thing
Speaker 4: that we've ever done on his heated floor. I love
Speaker 4: heated floors. We got them in our bathroom. And I'll
Speaker 4: tell you this too. We're looking at homes out in Louisiana,
Speaker 4: stuff on the water, and I got to say something, Man,
Speaker 4: when we look at a master bathroom that has that
Speaker 4: steam shower, it has a big kind of California style closet,
Speaker 4: and it has the fancy toilet, it really makes all
Speaker 4: the difference. I mean, it's amazing what an upgraded bathroom
Speaker 4: and an upgraded kitchen, but an upgraded master bathroom is crazy.
Speaker 4: It can take away or you tend to forgive the
Speaker 4: other stuff that hasn't been upgraded because that bathroom, especially
Speaker 4: the master. Honestly, you spend more time in that master
Speaker 4: bedroom and bathroom than any other room.
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, maybe the kitchen, but those are the two
Speaker 12: best improvements you can do inside that area.
Speaker 4: Yep. I mean really, the steam shower, it's like having
Speaker 4: a spa. Man, it's just your holess yep, and that's
Speaker 4: really cool. But you guys can do all that. When
Speaker 4: you guys were out at my house, who was that
Speaker 4: guy I met? I really liked Steven? Is he still there? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's a business partner. Oh, excellent. Steven is the coolest.
Speaker 4: So if you call these guys up, I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's always Stephen that comes out, but you know what,
Speaker 4: tell him you want Steven? Yeah, yeah, so he comes
Speaker 4: out and he is so good with ideas. It's like, well,
Speaker 4: look where that shower is there. If you wanted to
Speaker 4: move it over here, where this big bathtub is, we
Speaker 4: could put to shower there. You'd actually end up with
Speaker 4: a bigger, more badass shower. And then where the shower
Speaker 4: was could become a bigger closet because it back to
Speaker 4: right to our closet, so you would double the size
Speaker 4: of your closet. Then we could do like a California
Speaker 4: style shelving and stuff. And then he just went over
Speaker 4: every kind of option, and the very first thing was
Speaker 4: exactly that, well.
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Speaker 3: time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,
Speaker 3: all Compass insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens
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Speaker 4: Find out now three oh three, seven to seven to
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Speaker 3: You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank
Speaker 3: durand the real estate Man dot com to list your
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Speaker 4: All right, three o three seven one three eight two
Speaker 4: five five three oh three Martino, We've been talking about
Speaker 4: bathrooms a little bit here, and I've got Chris with me,
Speaker 4: the owner of Discount Bath Chris. The other thing I
Speaker 4: was going to ask you is forget about it. We
Speaker 4: know you can get a tub to shower conversion with
Speaker 4: you guys under ten grand. That's unbelievable. Your competition's higher
Speaker 4: than that, by the way. But the second question I
Speaker 4: have for you, what would you say the average job
Speaker 4: you do? Is because I would say the average isn't
Speaker 4: going to be just the tub dish.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean so at a company Ridge, we're just
Speaker 12: over twenty thousand, so that's taken into account the ten
Speaker 12: thousand dollars shower and the full master reduce, so we
Speaker 12: end up somewhere just over twenty thousand.
Speaker 4: And what's the biggest kind of thing people are interested
Speaker 4: in now? Like we talked about steam showers, but like
Speaker 4: the fancy toilets, Man, are those a big deal?
Speaker 15: You know?
Speaker 12: We get asked about them a lot, but it's really
Speaker 12: tapered off since COVID the seat people love it.
Speaker 4: We were talking off air a little while ago.
Speaker 12: There is a twelve thousand dollars toilet out there.
Speaker 4: It plays music and lights twelve thousand. It literally is
Speaker 4: Coler makes.
Speaker 12: We saw it at a show, but we've never put
Speaker 12: one of.
Speaker 4: Those in I mean, my goodness. So I mean like,
Speaker 4: when I think of one, I'm trying to think of
Speaker 4: the brand we have. But it was like the you know,
Speaker 4: the seat in the toilet, it's Coler Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: want to say it was like fifteen hundred bucks man
Speaker 4: not for not installed.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they're I mean, they're a great accessory to have
Speaker 12: in your house, but.
Speaker 4: It osculates it. You know, you hit different buttons, your program,
Speaker 4: the wind that comes out, and then the heated toilet seats.
Speaker 4: The main thing. Yep.
Speaker 12: All you got to do is run electrical into the
Speaker 12: water closet area.
Speaker 4: And it's got some way of like getting rid of
Speaker 4: a smell too. I don't even know how it does that.
Speaker 4: Is there like a filter built in? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 8: How about bedets? You guys do that?
Speaker 4: Well, that's what that's okay?
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, it's not like it's not a separate bidet.
Speaker 4: It's part of your toilet. Do you ever do separate bedeta?
Speaker 4: No more. I don't even think I've seen one in
Speaker 4: a hotel for years. No, I haven't either. There generally,
Speaker 4: if they if it's a really fancy hotel, it's more
Speaker 4: of what we're talking about. I have not seen a
Speaker 4: standalone the day. I can't even remember the last time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: me either. They were big in Europe, I think before here.
Speaker 12: Even overseas, I don't think they're around that much anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about financing if someone wants to really lay
Speaker 4: it out. Oh, and then the other question is we'll
Speaker 4: talk about financing in a second. But let's say it's
Speaker 4: let's say someone really wants something super and they want
Speaker 4: to fancy toilet, they want the California closet. They want
Speaker 4: that shower, steam shower, new tile, maybe heated floor. So
Speaker 4: let's say word that fifty sixty thousand, I mean a
Speaker 4: really nice master. I would argue that would increase the
Speaker 4: value of that house, maybe not by one hundred percent,
Speaker 4: meaning whatever you put in it, you'll get back. But
Speaker 4: once again, if it's the kitchen and it's the bathroom,
Speaker 4: the master, I would argue, and maybe you know the
Speaker 4: actual numbers, eighty percent, and they think you're not close.
Speaker 12: It's somewhere. It's a little south of that. It's probably
Speaker 12: seventy five percent, but you're right over the target. And
Speaker 12: then it does a second thing. It makes your house.
Speaker 4: Desirable, right, Yeah, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's there's that emotional value to you and to
Speaker 12: a new buyer, it's the sight.
Speaker 4: So quickly, Yeah, when we look at when we look
Speaker 4: at homes, there's two things. I just don't want. A
Speaker 4: crappy master bathroom or actually three okay, one is a
Speaker 4: crappy master bathroom or you know very dated yep, a
Speaker 4: dated kitchen, I meaning the appliances, everything, dated countertops, whatever.
Speaker 4: And then the third, which drives me crazy. You probably
Speaker 4: love them, but Jack and Jill bathrooms. I hate Jack
Speaker 4: and Jill bathrooms. I have no idea why people would
Speaker 4: ever get one. I saw a beautiful house. We loved
Speaker 4: everything about it. Everything was updated, it was beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 4: In fact, I'll tell you something crazy, it actually had
Speaker 4: a gas fireplace in the bedroom and in the shower.
Speaker 4: It was shared between the shower wall and the bedroom wall.
Speaker 4: Nice and it was a you know, it was a
Speaker 4: gas fireplace. Absolutely gorgeous. But they had a Jack and
Speaker 4: Jill bathroom on the first floor. Oh really, Yeah, they
Speaker 4: had the two kids rooms custom house. They built them
Speaker 4: on the first floor with the master instead of upstairs
Speaker 4: where they should have been in my opinion, right, and
Speaker 4: they built this Jack and Jill bathroom, which meant when
Speaker 4: you had guessed over, they're dealing with a Jack and
Speaker 4: Jill bathroom, which is crazy.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, yeah, that would be weird on the first floor.
Speaker 4: On the first floor. But do you remodel a lot
Speaker 4: of those?
Speaker 18: Now?
Speaker 12: We do a lot of I mean a lot of
Speaker 12: houses were built with them, right, yeah, because the kids
Speaker 12: are upstairs and we keep them as Jack and Jill's
Speaker 12: probably ninety percent of the time. Every now and then
Speaker 12: somebody will ask us to wall the door off and
Speaker 12: just make a single entrance.
Speaker 4: So you guys can do that. Can you guys even
Speaker 4: get into the construction part, like like I'm trying to
Speaker 4: describe even what I'm saying. Well, I already know you do,
Speaker 4: because you guys were talking about knocking down our shower
Speaker 4: all together and turning it into a cause. Yeah, we
Speaker 4: can totally do that. We can. Yeah.
Speaker 12: You know, if you got rough in in the basement,
Speaker 12: we can build you a new bathroom, walls everything, Oh,
Speaker 12: move the plumbing, if.
Speaker 4: Your remodel, you guys can actually add a bathroom to
Speaker 4: the basement. Yeah we can. Yep. As long as it's
Speaker 4: a bathroom, we do it. We do his bathrooms. That's
Speaker 4: your that's your bread and butter.
Speaker 8: Can shower in any existing uh shower just about just about.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 12: We got to find a place to put the steam
Speaker 12: machine otherwise.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, And it's crazy doc those things. Depending on
Speaker 4: the size of it, you could be running a thirty
Speaker 4: or fifty amp circuit. Man, I mean, like some of
Speaker 4: these bigger ones are unbelievable. They suck power like a
Speaker 4: hot top.
Speaker 8: Oh, I had one in my other house, and I'm
Speaker 8: just thinking about I love it, whether I should do
Speaker 8: it in my master bath.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the steam unit's got to sit somewhere, and
Speaker 4: it sure can't sit in the shower itself. It's basically
Speaker 4: connects and then goes through whatever the porcelain, and then
Speaker 4: there's your little steamhead where it comes out. Count but
Speaker 4: hold on and then wherever it is you got to run.
Speaker 4: It's got to have its own connection to the electric box.
Speaker 12: So you got electric drain and plumbing to it. Yeah,
Speaker 12: and you got to sit somewhere where you can get
Speaker 12: to it if you need to.
Speaker 4: And you can't use no, it's crazy. People don't know this.
Speaker 4: You can't use the same drain as you do for
Speaker 4: the shower. So like mine literally has a drain going
Speaker 4: from itself. It's a self flushing unit all the way
Speaker 4: way down to my basement into the utility room where
Speaker 4: it dumps the water when you turn it off. So
Speaker 4: they had to run that. Then they had to run
Speaker 4: fifty amp or a thirty amp up to the unit.
Speaker 4: It's it's crazy. It's not as single. Same with the
Speaker 4: fancy toilets. A lot of people don't have an outlet.
Speaker 4: You got to direct power these things yep. Yeah.
Speaker 12: In most cases though, we can do it. Yeah, I
Speaker 12: know you guys can.
Speaker 4: I mean that's what you do. Yeah.
Speaker 8: My question is I'm single, but I have in my
Speaker 8: water why well, you know why in my in my bath,
Speaker 8: I have no two sinks to vanity. Could you put
Speaker 8: the steam unit under the sink?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 12: And sometimes yeah, because that side next to the shower
Speaker 12: it depends.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, but hey, it's all done by code. I
Speaker 4: mean they put Oh I understand that. Everything all right, listen,
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