Speaker 1: Made a decision.
Speaker 2: Oh pace Sunny sun on I haddasione.
Speaker 1: N Hey everybody, what's happening? Welcome? Yes, Hello, Stephanie high
Land net Oh Kaylin, good to see you guys.
Speaker 3: It's Friday. It's a great day for us. Now I
want to ask you something. You said that Sunny was
going to come in today, yes, and me a guest
on our show. What happened?
Speaker 1: What happened? He has came out for the super Bowl, yeah,
but he's going back to school tomorrow. And last night,
so I picked him up from his super Bowl party
and we were talking about you know, we were on
the way home and he was going on and on
about the game and stuff, and I was like, you
know what, you should come on our show tomorrow since
you're here, and he's.
Speaker 3: Like, i'd love to.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I go. You know, we got
to get there early in the morning whatever. And he's like, yeah,
that's fine. And I said, we can't talk about sports
the whole time either, though, dude, and he's like, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So then I texted you.
Speaker 1: Guys last night, Sunny's coming tomorrow. Yeah. Well then I
get a text at like one o'clock in the morning
last night, but I didn't see it till I woke
up this morning. Oh, saying, I'm gonna be hanging out
with Hendrique tomorrow because I'm not going to see him
over spring break and I'm going back to school, So
what do you want from me? Then there he went,
so got it? No sunny, No sunny. That would have
been fun. Yeah, it would have been Yeah, could have
done a Patreon with him.
Speaker 3: Isn't it funny? How much worth seeing our kids?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, I know.
Speaker 3: I saw Elbie. Okay, So on Friday, I want to say,
she was like, hey, can I come home for the night.
I was like, yeah, course, why not? So went and
picked her up. On Friday afternoon, she stayed home, she
went and hung out with me, got her and then
Saturday went to the mall for a little while, then
brought her back to school. Then Sunday morning, my friends
picked her up and then she came and I saw
her at the Super Bowl. And it's funny, and.
Speaker 1: Julie, Julie will appreciate this, Julie, if you're listening, Julie, which.
Speaker 3: She does, listen. We have a little private joke because
year one Bella was home all the time, and Julie
and I would laugh about it because, you know, she
couldn't miss Bella at all, because Bella was like every
weekend like coming home for different things. Little family party here,
little this here, she had a gig over here, so
she's always home and Elbe was like, oh my gosh,
Bella comes home so much. Well so now this is
Elbie's first year at school and she's coming home all
the time. So every time she goes, hey can I come,
do you mind if I come home for the night,
I'm like, of course.
Speaker 1: Bella, that's funny. And then she's like, mom, hello, l
don't complain, and I'm like, I'm not. I'm totally teasing you.
Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, I'm so excited that I haven't
had to miss her that much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice. It is nice. I feel like Sunny's
been home more than Natalia and he's out of state. Yeah,
but but yeah, no, he's going to be in a
long stretch now, or he's going to be there for
a while. Yeah, spring break.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how's he doing at school?
Speaker 1: He's good, he's good. He's you know, he's got his classes,
he's taking his class to getting good grades, and Italia
is doing good. And Natalia calls me a lot and
like to kill time, which I like in between her classes.
You know. So they're both doing really good. They're enjoying it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Natalia really does feel strong wa though that
she wants to go to UCSB.
Speaker 1: Oh, she is definitely yes, Like she she needs a
statistic class that she needed to take before this summer.
And so when this semester, this new semester started, she
everything was full for those classes and she went, she said,
and she called me that morning she goes, I'm going early.
I'm showing up at this class, like twenty minutes before
the class starts, and I'm just gonna beg the teacher.
And she got there and she told the teachers She's like,
I'll just sit I don't even need a desk. I'll
just sit in a chair if you'll just have me
in the class. And the teacher's like, I like your hutzpah,
you're in really yeah yeah, And she's sitting at the
teacher's desk. She's like, you can sit at my desk
because I don't. I don't I don't usually sit really,
so oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, God, that's so good for her.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, go for you, Yeah, I know.
I was so proud of her. I'm so proud of her.
I know. So yeah, she's like and now so she's
got like five classes. She has a ton of homework.
I mean every day she's got like assignment to her
assignments there, but she goes to the library. She gets hurt.
She's getting her work done. It's she's determined. When Italian's determined,
she's determined. And same with Sonny. Sonny's determined too. It's
taking the classes he needs to take, doing his homework,
going to the library. They're both doing really well because
there weren't great students in school in high school and stuff,
you know, but but they're they have a goal, so
they're working towards a goal and that's what they want.
So that, you know, it's it's it's good for it.
I like it. You know, they're taking all those crappy
classes now so that they can take you know, the
fun stuff soon after they get all that stuff, you know,
all the other status statistics class and math class over with.
Speaker 3: I'm really glad that we have this option of community college.
I know that a lot of people don't love community
college for kids because a lot of kids drop out
or that's all they do is community college and they
don't transfer. But I think that there are so many
kids that are just not great students, like myself included. Yeah,
because it's sometimes it's hard to see your future. It's
hard to you know, there's a lot of pressure on
kids right in high school, and it's where we're sometimes
finding out about the learning issues that are going on.
You know, sometimes you don't even recognize it until you're
in a situation where you do start having a lot
of homework and you have to develop study habits, and
then that's when a lot of learning things come up,
like zat adhd and you know, different stuff, right, And
I think that you know, for somebody like me, I
just didn't give a fuck, Like I just lost interest
and then was like, well I couldn't see yet. All
I saw with college was like it's just going to
be more of the same. So I like the fact
that kids can like, you know, and listen. It worked
out well for LB and same thing, like she started
getting so burnt out by her senior year, but then
when she went to community college, she was like, oh,
now I really see the goal. Like now, like in
high school, I stopped caring because it was like so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they get burned out by their senior year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like, what what difference does it make?
I don't know for sure that killing myself is going
to help me get into the college that I want,
And it seems so arbitrary. But then once you're like, oh, no,
here's what I need to do, here's the classes I
need to pass. I think it gives them more focus.
Speaker 1: It does, yeah, I agree, and I you know, and
also helps to like seeing their friends, you know, accomplishing.
Like for an Italian, she's got her two roommates that
are a year older than her, who've already been there
for one year, and they're they're getting all their stuff
so that they can transfer, So she's kind of following
in their path that knowing what he needs to be
taken so that they can transfer to to the university.
So that helps, you know, it just it is I
feel like it's the best thing for my kids is
to be able to do the community college first. And
it was I think, you know, they could have stayed
in town and done it in town, but they both
were like, we're out. We want to both go like
and explore and get out of town, which was good.
Speaker 3: It's good for them, great for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean and saves us money.
Speaker 3: I saves me a lot of money. And even though
LB seems to come home often, at the same time,
she's doing so much more for herself. Yeah, she figures
stuff out. Although she sent me this TikTok the other
day that made me laugh out loud that it's this
little it's like a little purple if anybody's seen this meme,
and it says it's something like how come I'm twenty
one and still asking my mom if I it's something
about taking what pain? That is? What pain?
Speaker 1: Like? Uh huh? How many to find it? You know?
Speaker 3: Now I gotta find it? Hold on.
Speaker 1: Natalia was she's been cooking a lot lately for her
dorm and she calls. She calls me, and I love
it because she asked me, like, how long do you
put the steaks on the in the on the pan for?
How do you know when the chicken's done? It's it's
great because she calls me and then she's facetiming with
me while she's cooking, which is so fun Oh, I
love that.
Speaker 3: That's so cute. Uh oh, here it is. It says
it's this little like it's this little guy with these
big eyes. And then it just says, how I look
at my mom before I ask her what medicine to
take for my stuff? He knows I'm twenty one, And
then under at the caption just says, why are there
so many options? Though?
Speaker 1: That's true, that's funny.
Speaker 3: That's what I love.
Speaker 1: Though it's true.
Speaker 3: Actually, she me.
Speaker 1: She called me when she was at seven eleven on Saturday,
and she's like, she's like, I still have this cold,
like we were talking about last week. This is the
cold that never ends in the dorms. And she's like, so,
I don't know what should I get. What cold medicine
is that that we have at home. She's like it's
in the orange bottle. I'm like yeah, it's like exactly yeah.
And then she's like I can't find it. I go, well,
it's probably locked up. You're probably gonna have to ask
the guy, and she did and yeah, so like yeah,
she asked. She doesn't know like what cold medicine to
take or you know, or how often can I take?
That's the cute stuff so that they got to figure
out when they're on their own. I just my favorite
thing in the world is when they still need mommy.
I know mine too well. I love it.
Speaker 3: I mean, we we've lost so much and then we
get that one little thing of when they're like, mom,
what do I do about this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Low?
Speaker 3: I know, I love it. And albeit you know, she's
she's doing the tour guide thing and then she also
just applied for the ambassador program, so she would have
two part time jobs, which is basically the job is
you go to college fairs, you go to high schools,
and you talk to the kids about and what Elbe
says it is is not just about UCLA, because that
school kind of sells itself, but it's more about talking
to kids, especially from lower income or disadvantaged kids, about
how the importance of higher education and how it's accessible,
how to make it accessible for everybody, and you know,
so it's really cool.
Speaker 1: That's very cool. Yeah, that's really nice.
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of just like talking to
younger kids, and and there's travel, like they have to
go sometimes to like longer distances school. Yeah, but then
they reimburse them for gas and they you know that
they pay for all their time, and it's like a
cool thing.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's really great.
Speaker 3: So I'll keep you posted on she just sent in
her application.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good. And is she liking her other the
tour guide?
Speaker 3: My god, she loves it.
Speaker 1: Like how often does she work?
Speaker 3: Well, she's still training right now, so she gets I
think her her first evaluation is next week. So she's
like shadowing tours and doing sort of practice where they
let her do part of it and then the trainer
does part of it, and then she gets evaluated and
if she passes two evaluations, she can start taking her
own tours.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's a great that's a great gig. I know.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it only pays minimum wage, but still it's a.
Speaker 3: Job and it's I think better for career, you know yep.
And it's right there on campus. Yeah, so it's pretty
like she's and she did that herself. She know, she
got her applicate. She I told you when we were
working on there was one that for a different job
that I helped her. We revamped her resume and because
she was using too much AI I mean, I was like, no,
you cannot send it out like this. It doesn't even
make sense. I was like, this just sounds like a
I wrote it. And then she's like, oh it does.
I'm like, yeah, that is not how people talk.
Speaker 1: Doesn't like I don't even know how you but I know,
like when you're reading, when you Google something and goes a,
I'll tell you AI generated it, right, you know that
makes sense. But like when people show me, like like
when they you know, look at this, I'm gonna tell
it to write a letter of you know, resignation or whatever.
It's just sounds so hokey, right. It doesn't sound like,
yeah it does. It sounds like somebody like a computer
wrote it.
Speaker 3: So if you if you can like Google, you can
AI ask it like give me an opening statement for
a resume for somebody applying for a job in like
peer counseling or something, right, and then it gives you
something that just does not sound right at all appropriate
And then I'll be just put that exactly in her thing.
And I was like, no, oh my god, a person
who blah blah blah. I was like, what, No, it
doesn't even make sense. I was like, we can get
the AI, but get like, do it a few times
and get a bunch of different options and then make
it make.
Speaker 1: Sense right, right, right, put your own flavor into it.
So I was like teaching her that's good, that's good.
AI is really ruining our kids' minds. But don't. But
professors will know, right if they turn in papers that
are oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she's not doing that for papers, Oh yeah,
they run it through the for plagiarism, right, for that, No,
that's like chat GPT writing stuff. No, but no, but
it's not that. It's more like it's just if it's
just in a resume, but you still want to sound
like you didn't just have AI write your resume. Yeah,
of course. So, but it's not that they're going to
think she's cheating. It's just that if you want to
stand out, you don't want it to write.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I gotcha.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I just live. I love the fact that
they are at their own pace, being independent.
Speaker 1: Yes, I like it too.
Speaker 3: It's nice working out issues roommates stuff. I'm sure it
comes up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know you're having to live with people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big it's a big change, you know,
from you know, especially like Natalia living with four other girls.
You know, in this little tiny place, and you know,
and then who does the dishes and who's doing the
cleaning or whatever, and then having to do their own laundry,
and yeah, it's nice, it's good. I'm happy. It's good
for them.
Speaker 3: I think Oh has finally started to realize, like she
realizes how irritating it is if other people don't participate
in cleaning and then she has to then live in
a dirty apartment or she has to do it. I
think she's really finally starting to see how I feel
when I'm like if people, if I have to constantly
nag people to do it, I might as well do
it myself. I think she's yeah, now I see, then
I just do it because I want to live in
a clean apartment. And it's like now I think she
sees when she's home, like, oh, maybe not having my
room be like disgusting and then leaving and leaving.
Speaker 1: Everybody to clean up. Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's good
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Speaker 3: So Saturday night, a little story for you. Saturday Night,
I went we went to we took it was me
and John had tickets and we took Sadie and Xander
to see Tommy Stinson of the Replacements play at this
really cool venue in Burbank.
Speaker 1: It was like where in Burbank.
Speaker 3: It was one of these you know how these things
are cropping up, these spaces that you can rent that
you can just do an event there or a photo
shoot and it's just like a big empty room and
you can like bring your own furniture. So he was
performing in one of those spaces.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Now Tommy Stinson, you might remember because I talked about
this a couple of years ago. John and I went
to go see him at a church in Silver Lake, Yes,
and it was a really great show. We loved it.
Then I bought him some art and I remember the
art day, yes, which we I had framed for him
for his birthday. Yeah. I was like a good gift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do say so myself.
Speaker 3: So I found these tickets. He's just he's not very famous,
but he was in the Replacements for years and that's
John's favorite band of all time. And he was also
Guns N' Roses bassist for like ten years. If you
knew that no anyway, so we went and we took
Sadie and Xander and it was very, very fun and
we we get this email the day of the thing
and they're like, hey, by the way, it's byob and
it's also buyoc bring your own chair. It's not really chairs,
but we were like screw it. They're like, if you
have any lawn chairs or anything that you want to bring,
we'll have like a few chairs. But so it's very funny.
So we get there and they don't have like any
food bar or do they bring that in. Well, it
turned out that they did have some beer and stuff
available for people. I guess people brought it. It was
like a picnic. Basically we sat on the floor up front.
Really people sat in some chairs that they brought. Yes,
people had brought like they had like beer for people.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I am Aysia. I have four chairs
in my garage. Oh I used to bring to the
volleyball games and stuff.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, whatever, we were fine. Well, we literally sat
on the floor. So the guy who owns who runs
the space started chatting with us and he's like, yeah,
I was asking him about the space. He was just
like this super nice guy. His name's Gary, and he
was like yeah, I said, because he was thinking somebody
was like, Oh, that's the guy who's this is his space,
and he was trying to help run things and get
the audio perfect. So I was like, Oh, this space
is so cool. And I said what do you guys
do here? Because I literally was like, this could be
like a cool space for a live podcast. Yeah yeah,
and he's like yeah, absolutely, and then he said, oh,
we've had people here like so and so from the Pixies,
and he goes and Lisa Lobe has performed here and
I was like oh. And then I said something. I said,
you know, her manager is my neighbor. So Lisa Lobe's
manager is my neighbor named Janet. And he was like,
oh my gosh. Janet is a really good friend of mine.
He's like, she was my best man at my wedding.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, that's crazy. She literally lives
like a few houses from me. And then I go
funny story which I thought he'd really enjoy, which was
you might remember this story about how I first met
Lisa Lobe. Do you remember this story? Yeah, So I'm
going to remind you and didn't we.
Speaker 1: Have her on our show, Lisa, I was sure, really did, And.
Speaker 3: Then I had to remind her of this embarrassing thing
which I thought this guy Gary would Be would enjoy
this story more than I think.
Speaker 1: Is it good story? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So many years ago, I just had Elbe and I
had just moved to my neighborhood and Encino, and I
was like, oh my god. Well, first of all, I
did not understand that I was having really bad postpart
of anxiety. Elbe was like five weeks old, and I
was like, I feel like a wrecking ball has just
knocked me. Oh knocked my whole come and destroyed my life.
And I but I because I was anxious all day long,
and I didn't know anybody in my neighborhood. I had
no mom friends, so but I knew Janet from This
really doesn't even matter how I knew her, but I
knew she was like a friend of a friend, and
I knew she lived in my neighborhood, so I think
I had. I saw her on the street because I
was like going for a walk with the baby, and
I said and she was like, how are you doing?
And I was like not great. Now you have to understand.
Janet is like very like like just a typical, like
Jewish mom, like no makeup, like you know whatever, living
in like a really normal house in my neighborhood. And
she's like, well, do you want to come over for
a Pampered Chef party? And I was like, well, I
don't know what that is, but a party sounds great,
you know. She was like, it's like, whatever, night, come
to my house. Now. I don't know what pampered chef is.
I didn't know as a multi level marketing thing at
the time, but I'm like me, she was like, oh,
I'm going to invite a bunch of other moms from
the neighborhood. I'm like, I am in.
Speaker 1: This is the sound of it. Sounds nice? You know.
A chef.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what it actually is a shrimp tails in
my pocket. What it actually is is very overpriced kitchen gadgets.
You know, I ended up buying because I had you
felt like you had to buy something. I bought a
can opener that doesn't make your edges sharp. It's like doles.
I don't know. It was like twenty four dollars. I
mean it was like ridiculous, right, Okay, So I go.
I go to her pamper Chef party. She's her kids
are a little bit older than Elk. They were like
a year older than Elbie. And she had so much babyproofing,
the most insane babyproofing you've ever seen. Like every table
had like rubber on the around the edges of the table.
It looked like an insane aside, you know, like rubber walls,
like the walls and patting on it. I was like,
oh my god, so and so we have the so
and then I see a woman at the party. We're
just all sitting around. It's like literally the most normal moms.
It's nothing Hollywood about this party, about this group. And
I this one woman though, looked so much like Lisa Lope.
She's wearing like full on Catie glasses and I was like, God,
that woman looks like Lisa Lobe. So I tried talking
to her and she was not that friendly. Do you remember.
I was like hey, So, I was like, uh, I go,
so what do you do or whatever? And she had
brought some like bean dip. Oh I because in the
I was eating the bean dip and I was like,
this is really good. I was trying to find it.
I was like, you brought this this good dip or whatever.
She's like thanks, And I was like, so what do
you what do you do or whatever? She's like, Oh,
I'm in the music business now. She was very famous
at the time, right, So I'm like, but in my mind,
I was like, that could be anything. I don't know,
could she could like she.
Speaker 1: Could be a sound mixer.
Speaker 3: Right, So I'm like, oh, like what like for what
she and she was not giving me any answers, So
I give up a certain point. I'm like, she's not
making saying anything specific.
Speaker 1: And do you still think she's Lisa Lowe at this
point or no.
Speaker 3: I'm like, if she's not Lisa Lobe, she's really trying
to look like Lisa Lobe, you know. But it was
so out of where a person who's like a pretty
well known singer would be, right, Like, I'm telling you,
these are just neighborhood, normal moms, and it is not
a high priced neighborhood. So anyway, and there's like a
couple of guys that look anyway. The next day, I
see Janet and I was like, oh my gosh, that
woman at your house last night looked so much like
Lisa Lobe and she was like, that was Lisa Lobe.
Like I manage her. I'm like this very nebashy mom
is like a music manager. Well, it turns out she's
just got this very crazy past when she I think
she was Courtney Loves manager. At one point she worked
with Nirvana and one of the guys, Frank Black from
the Pixies, was at this freaking pamper Chef party. I
didn't even realize it at the time. She was like, oh, yeah,
that was Frank Black, and I was like, oh my god, Okay.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: So then I write this story for my book Naptime's
the New Happy Hour, which was the sequel to Sippy
Cups Are Not for Chardonay. I write this story. I
write it very self deprecating to myself, like I in
no way, I'm like, but I'm like, I make it.
I make myself sound way more pathetic, you know, I'm like,
and then I'm like going, like, what anyway I make
this story? I sound crazy in the story, and because
also in the story is how I had just started
an antidepressant which was made me really hyper. So within
that story, basically I call my mom afterwards and I'm like,
I feel so much better. I feel like really like
I've just had like a lot of coffee. And then
my mom's like, yeah, don't take that lexapro anymore. And
I was like, oh, anyway.
Speaker 1: Really so then you.
Speaker 3: So then before the book comes out, so I turn
in the book and the publisher is like, it has
to go through legal and they're like, well, we need
to have Lisa Lobe's permission to tell the story. And
I was like, wait, what, No, I am I going
to do that?
Speaker 1: Wow, your neighbor can doctor.
Speaker 3: So I have to contact Janet and I'm like, okay,
this is very embarrassing, but I have a book coming
out and I wrote a chapter about being at your
Pampered Chef party and meeting Lisa Lobe there. Now how
embarrassing is that to even say? And I was like,
is there any way that you can get this to
her because I don't have permission to tell a story
that involves her. So Janet was super nice. She was like,
of course, no problem. So she sends it to her.
So then the company is like, okay, so has she
given you permission yet? So then I have to follow
up and I'm like, hey, do you know if Lisa
read this. So I get a one. She's like, yes,
here's her response, and her response was I don't remember
anything like this. She's like, but whatever. She's like, but whatever,
it's fine. That's so funny, like not happy about it, right, huh. Okay,
So I send that to the book company, which makes
me sound like a liar. Well, she might have said,
I just don't remember it this way right right right
at all?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: She didn't remember me, right because you remember going to
the temper that.
Speaker 1: You're a Stephanie Wilder Taylor.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You know that she thank you.
Speaker 3: She knows nothing about me, she does not remember it's
sticking her head this interaction at all. So then I
have to tell my book company. But she's okay with it, okay,
So then they go great. So then after I had
the twins, and I must have been pregnant because the
there was a story about how it doesn't really matter,
but I had the twins the day that we were
bringing them home. No, the Okay, after I leave, the
twins are in the nicic. You I'm a wreck. I've
just had I've been just had a C section. It's
my first. I'm leaving the hospital without the baby. So
I'm all emotional too, you know. John picks me up
and we go to eat at the Coral Tree, which
is near my house restaurant. We walk in, I'm a mess,
like my hair hasn't been washed in like four days,
you know, or longer than that, no makeup, you know,
I've just had twins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you do.
Speaker 3: So who do I see? There?
Speaker 1: Janet having lunch with Lisa Lobe, to which I would
have been like bee lying away from them. But Janet's like.
Speaker 3: Steph, Hi, how oh my gosh, like how are you?
She knew I had just had She was like, come here,
So I have to walk over there with John. Lisa
Lobe is looking like she doesn't know who I am.
Now I'm forced, I'm feel forced to go hi. So
she's like, this is my neighbor, Stephanie. She just had twins,
And I'm like, yeah, I go.
Speaker 1: Thing is, I'm the one who.
Speaker 3: Wrote a story about you. Like I'm not in the
mood either to be saying that. I'm like, yeah, I'm
the one who wrote a story about you that you
don't remember.
Speaker 1: And literally she goes like this, oh huh, she's.
Speaker 3: Not at all, like, oh my god, that's hilarious. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: No, She's like huh.
Speaker 3: So then I leave feeling worse and I'm like I
did not need that. Then, of course, years later, we
have her on our show.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, I hate to remind you
of this, but I got to tell you.
Speaker 3: And then she was like much nicer about it.
Speaker 1: I mean her bean did La made an impression on you, boy.
Speaker 3: But the thing that's funny is that I really loved
about her, and I think we had her on again
too after that. She did she said that she felt
that she feels embarrassed because I was like, why didn't
you just say like, yeah, bitch, I'm Lisa Lobe. Yeah,
And she's like, because what if you were like who?
Speaker 1: She's like, because I don't like I don't want to
assume that people like know who I am. She goes,
it makes me look bad if I'm like, yeah, you
might have heard of me. I'm Lisa Lowe, like I'm
a musician. She's like, then I feel stupid, so she goes,
so now we both feel stupid.
Speaker 3: She was like, I thought that was really sweet.
Speaker 1: That is that's cute because when we had her.
Speaker 3: On was when she was promoting her song she made
a CD for kids.
Speaker 1: That's right, I remember that.
Speaker 3: My kids loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that CD. That was
so good. That's a good gift to give to people.
Speaker 3: She was so sweet, I know, so So to bring
it all full circle, I tell the guy Gary, of course,
I do not make the.
Speaker 1: Story I forgot about Jarry, because.
Speaker 3: You know, I make the story really short. But I
was like, yeah, funny story about Lisa Lobe, Like I live.
Janet's my neighbor, and this is how I met her.
And then I tell him and he's like, he gives
me the most blank look, and I was like, well,
now I've just been Lisa lobed all over again. Remind
me not to put this story in my next book
and have to run it by you, fucking Gary stupid.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. That is too fucking fright.
Speaker 3: But but before we break, I will say that we
got to talk to Tommy Stinson. You did afterward? Yeah,
And he's so nice and he loved that we had
Sadie and Xander there. They're the only teenagers there, and
he was and he was talking about his kids and
he was asking them if they play music and they
were saying they're in bands, and he was thought that
was so cool. So that's so.
Speaker 1: Cyah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: And Tommy Stinson announced that he's almost three years sober.
So when we saw him, so I got to be like,
by the way, yeah sober too. He was like, I'm sober,
he's like almost three years and he's like and I
just do not know what to do with myself.
Speaker 1: Did you tell him about your book?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine?
Speaker 3: Listen should get my book. But I'm trying to talk
John into doing a podcast about so Paul Westerberg was
the lead singer of The Replacements when he's known as
like a recluse and but like there there's like a
lot of sort of like pathos about this band, a
lot of lore, as the kids say. And I was like,
you should do a podcast about and interview a lot.
There's a lot of famous people that are like diehard
Replacement fans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, And it.
Speaker 3: Would be so cool. You could interview like pat Oswalt
and like all like different people can mee And we
met the longtime the first manager. He's like the Brian
Epstein of the Replacements. He got fired when they started
to get famous, and he was we John kind of
told him about the idea and he was like, yeah,
very cool, Like.
Speaker 1: That would be great for you, that would be so fun.
Speaker 3: So everybody go on the religion page on Facebook and
tell John that I told you about the idea, and
you all think it's a great idea.
Speaker 1: It's a great idea. I mean if I can do
it about with Bruce Ringsteen and those handful of po well,
you can do it. Yes, it's people love to talk
about their favorite artist, especially with a fellow fan.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Great, Yeah, and he could kind of take you
through the different stages, like different people have passed away
and been you know, been sick and yeah the band
and drug addiction and there's just a lot of really
interesting stories and then great. The idea is he's searching
for an interview with Paul Westerberg, which he's never gonna
get because the guy's like a total recluse. But you
never know, you never know.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so what have you guys been watching? You two
crazy kids?
Speaker 1: Well, I was going to tell you a little update
about this Brian Coburger case. Oh about the the Idaho murders,
because this is really interesting, Like so new stuff has
come out recently about this case. So this guy who
they found, you know, it's the four the four college
students in Idaho that were brutally slaughtered. One roommate was
just she lived and she was an eyewitness. I'll tell
you about her in a second. But they they tied him,
this Brian Coolberg to this murder. He is the student
he no, he's a he was a student at w
s U. But also he's like a ta like like
in criminology courses and he studies criminology and he actually
did like a reddit of years ago to get away
with murder, to get away with the perfect crime. And Okay,
this is starting to look kind of creepy because it
looks to me like starting to but this is getting
weird now. Okay, So they found they found the knife sheet,
the knife sheath at the scene of the crime with
on the button of the nine sheet was his touch DNA.
They traced it back how they traced it back to
they What they did is they they traced it back
to the father, his father, his father's DNA, which is
you know, they did genealogy, genealogy. But here's the thing,
his defense attorney is now trying to throw that out
of court, the fact that that they have that touch DNA.
They're trying to throw it out because the FBI did
not do it the right way. They use like my heritage,
They used a commercial like instead of going through the
proper channel. They used to like the twenty three and
me right, like the twenty three and me. That's how
they found it was his dad's DNA that he was
connected to.
Speaker 3: Who cares same difference.
Speaker 1: But that there's protocols and stuff you're not supposed to do.
And also those companies are not allowed that is against
the law, even if it is the FBI, they are
not allowed to give out your DNA, you know, information
like that.
Speaker 3: I think they are not. I think that's one of
the reasons to not do it. If you don't want
your No, they're.
Speaker 1: Not they're not. They could get they they can get sued.
You're not supposed to do that. And so for some how.
Speaker 3: Are we to catch criminals?
Speaker 1: You go through the genealogy, you know there there's other
databases that they could they use, like but every time
I stuff like listen to a true crime right thing,
they say, Oh, luckily his DNA was on file because
he'd done a twenty three and meters like that's the like, otherwise,
how do they have your DNA? Well, I'm not sure,
but that the something is going on where they could
get this this touch DNA cost out because they went
through my heritage dot com. They went through like the
wrong wrong channels. The FBI didn't go through it the
proper way. The other weird thing is now they're saying
that they found two unidentified male the blood found at
that house. Now they would have frat parties all they
would have parties all the time. There was blood found
on a banister. Somebody could have cut their finger. There
was also another male's DNA found inside a glove inside
a glove outside of the house, and it's not his DNA.
There's theories now, there's some conspiracy theories. Is that because
he was a criminology. Like working in criminology, he had
access to I don't know, blood, say, he could have
gotten a friend's blood set something. He could have put
it in there to throw off perfect crime, the perfect
make the perfect crime. The other crazy thing with this case,
it is turning to look like the perfect crime because
unless he left that knife knife sheath, he could have
gotten away with the perfect crime because he bought a
painter's suit on Amazon, and he bought the knife. He
bought the painter suit and this time was so bloody,
I mean, you know, it was really I mean it
was like blood was coming out of the foundation and shit. Anyway,
they took his car apart and he committed this crime
within like seventeen minutes. They took his car apart. They
could not find one drop of blood in his car,
not one drop. How do you commit that kind of
crime and not get any fucking blood inside that car
and you get in that car and you get out
of there fast and no blood.
Speaker 3: Edie wasn't He wasn't in that car.
Speaker 1: Maybe, But then they also said they saw his cars
as being you know, on I guess ring door cameras
that his car was in the vicinity. But then there's
also the argument to the defenses. There's plenty of alantra
white alantras in the visit whatever, there's no you can't
in any of the videos. You can't. You don't see
his license plate, you don't see who's driving. The other
thing is is no blood found in his apartment. The
other thing is is no digital evidence of him him
there's no motive. There's no digital evidence of him knowing
these girls or stalking them or looking them, googling them, nothing, nothing,
So he could have thought, like, you know, there is
a theory that he did run into one of the
blonde girls at like a restaurant she worked at, and
then he got obsessed with her and then was like,
I think I'm gonna try and do the perfect crime
kind of thing. So I mean, we'll see. But if
they get that DNA thing taken off out and thrown
out of the cave, that that could be bad for
the prosecution. And also they're doing what you admit to it. No,
oh no, he's saying he's not guilty at all, not
even a little bit, not even a teeny dyne not
a little teeny dwnne bit, not even a little bit
of mister Calvert.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I hope he doesn't get away with it. Yeah,
so that's pretty crazy. It is crazy. It's it's kind
of interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, how the hell? Like what a mess? I
don't you know? You gotta think like even if it
was all over his suit that he bought, you unzip it,
but where do you take it apart? And also what
about like his no shoeprints. Now you could have put
booties like those kind that like the heater go. Yeah,
so but then when you take all that off, shouldn't
there have If you're gonna take it off and you
put it in a bag and you put the bag
in your trunk or something, and then you toss it
into the river? Where do you take all that off?
At inside the house? But because he saw he ran
into that one roommate who she said she saw him
bushy eyebrows or whatever. And I think he was trying
to get out of there. So as soon as he
he did those murders, he was trying to bounce out
of there quickly. How do you where do you take
off that suit? Like outside, if it's outside, would there
be once you find some blood outside where you just
rode from that suit.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then then that witness too. Is the other crazy
thing that she didn't call like she saw what she saw.
She saw this guy coming. She heard one of her
roommates crying. She heard a male's voice saying, don't worry,
I'll help you, something like that, And she sees this guy.
She closes the door, locks it. She doesn't fucking the
next day when she wakes up, now she said she
was she she couldn't identify now she's another one. First
she said he had a bushy eyebrows, and then when
they brought her in, they interviewed her three times. She
couldn't pick him out, she said. She went back and said,
I can't identify him. That's another bad thing for the prosecution.
And the other thing is is that she said that
she was drinking and that she went she didn't know
she made She thought maybe it was a dream or
she was drunk, so she passed out. She woke up
later in like the afternoon, and instead of calling nine
one one, she called her frat friends to come over.
And the guys came over and they saw the murders
and they called nine one one, so nine one one
wasn't even called by this that's not good for the prosecution.
It's just it's not it's not looking. I mean, things
could fall apart. This is crazy.
Speaker 3: But him, now, was this a podcast or you watched
the show this?
Speaker 1: This was? What's it called? It's a podcast Long crime? Oh, sidebar,
sidebar with Jesse Weber.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, is that a good podcast?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. Yeah. Well there's this guy he's just
wrote a book now and he's doing all these shows.
He's going on the rounds promoting his book about the murders,
and he's the one that's giving all these interviews about
what's going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild that you would write a book about
something that's still ongoing. That's still the time you're finished.
The book comes out, and then there's a verdict.
Speaker 1: Right right after. Yeah, he said he felt compelled enough.
He's in New York Times writer that did investigative journalism
his whole life, and that he felt Yeah, he kind
of was like, maybe I should wait until after the trial,
but he's like, I have so much in this book,
I could do a pre after, Like there's just a
lot to this case I want to read the book.
I know I do too.
Speaker 3: The guy is Jesse Weber's the author or no.
Speaker 1: Jesse Webers for the podcast Okay, it's called uh, Caitlin,
maybe you can look up the guy that wrote the
new book on the Idaho murders and it's called something
the Fall of the Night or something like that.
Speaker 2: And then, uh, when the Night Comes Falling.
Speaker 1: That's it, When the Night Comes Falling.
Speaker 3: That's such an interesting title because that is the title
of a Bob Dylan Dave Stewart song that Remember I
told you the story of me being in a music
video when I first moved to La. You looked it up.
I was in the I was like an extra in
a music video. And that name of that song is
When the Night Comes Falling.
Speaker 1: Really, yep, that's weird. Wow, I know. Yeah, it's a
it's a good book. I mean, it looks like it's good.
I'm gonna I want to listen to it.
Speaker 3: Okay, side, okay, getting some things and what do you guys.
You guys are watching some shows Silo.
Speaker 2: I think we're both watching Oh.
Speaker 1: We were talking about Silo before this podcast. Yeah, it's
really it's.
Speaker 2: Slow at times, but Season two ended very well, so
I don't think.
Speaker 1: It's your cup of tea. But I'll tell you what
I'm obsessed with right now is Severance. I freaking love
that show.
Speaker 3: But what season are we in of that show? Okay?
Speaker 2: One, I've only watched the first two episodes, so, but
I loved the first season.
Speaker 1: It's great. It's so good. It is. It's like it's
like the Twilight Zone versus like Black Mirror kind of thing.
But it's got humor. You know, it's like a serious show,
but it's got fucking hilarious.
Speaker 3: Any episodes of it. I think season one I just
was couldn't get into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta pay attent, you gotta like pay attention.
Speaker 3: So you're saying, I can't play threes on my oh
and watch that show.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, you can't be distracted. It's not a multitasking show, right,
yeah right.
Speaker 3: You know what is though, is watched a couple episodes
of Millionaire Matchmaker from twenty twenty. God, that is one
of the worst shows that's ever been. Oh Stanger, Patti Stanger,
and he's horrible.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I U still love that show.
Speaker 3: I know, it's like very watchable but it's just so bad.
It's just like she's so mean, mean, right, so mean,
and which is it's like watching American Idol, but with
like regular people who just want to date, you know. Yeah,
but then she's like grabbing the girl's boobs. She's like,
do you even have any boobs? And she's always her
whole thing with all the guys is like do you
even have a penis? You don't even have a penis?
Speaker 1: What the hell?
Speaker 3: She's just because she's just calling all the guys pussies
and like.
Speaker 1: Did she ever like did they ever hit it on?
Did anybody ever like really have no?
Speaker 3: It's so fake, so fake. We were watching an episode
last night where with somebody who's from whose plays Kim
Kardashian's best friend, I don't know. The guy was just
so obnoxious and like full of himself, and you're like,
these people are just celebrities that you're pretending to set,
you know what I mean. They're never going to go
on another and at the end they always put the
Chiron is like yeah, uh, Lisa, although Lisa agreed to
go out with him again, like she never turned his call.
Speaker 1: You know, and it's like, Okay, it's like, right, yeah,
did she do a celebrity matchmaking thing too or no?
Speaker 3: Kind of. It's just that some of these millionaires are like, yeah,
she's like, oh it's my friend, I'm friends with this guy.
He's a celebrity. It's not they're not like right, I
get I guess some of them were celebrities, but it's
so bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we tried to watch An.
Speaker 3: Knew The Curious Case of Oh yeah, and I don't
even remember it's like episode three now, I can't even
literally watched it last night and we were like, oh
my god, this is so boring.
Speaker 1: Oh it was was it?
Speaker 3: Can you look up with the episode three of The
Curious Case because they werena Talia Grace. Yeah, and then
they did Bam Margera remember right, and that's the only one.
And then they did one that was this girl who
was adopted.
Speaker 1: Oh she died twice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that she died twice. Okay. Then the latest episode
is the one we just watched last night, which was
I mean, they're getting worse and worse. No, it wasn't
anything about cats. It was like help Mikaylan Well.
Speaker 2: The description is John and Carrie Halford's return to Nature
promises care but instead leaves bodies decomposing in filth and
provides families with concrete instead of ashes.
Speaker 3: No, that wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Curious Case Season one, episode three, The Funeral Home of Horrors.
Speaker 3: No, what's episode four?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: Hold on?
Speaker 2: Hold on, we just saw the girl who died twice?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Look up five?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm sorry that was two? Four? Is the
Doomsday cat Cult? No? Am I looking at the right show?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the right show. It wasn't the Dooms Each
episode is different? Right?
Speaker 3: Yes? Maybe is there a five?
Speaker 1: Are you sure it was the Curious Case?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 2: Therapist Jody Hilderbrandt's crusade against masturbation drives a wedge between
couples and crisis.
Speaker 3: No, all, fine, I'm gonna put it on the Facebook page. Okay,
I'm going to go look back at what we watched
and put it on the Facebook page. But we were
just like, what is happening? I don't even under who
cares these people?
Speaker 1: Right? It sounded like it would have been a good idea.
I mean, were the other one's good? Then Italia Grace
was good, Tally Grace was good, but the band Margiera
was like, who cares?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not great.
Speaker 1: No, and even the girl that died twice. I think
that's the only only other one.
Speaker 3: That one was not good either. Yeah, that was boring. Yeah,
but anyway, this has been a very good time. Yeah,
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Adam Lerner is a car broker Adam's Got a Car
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in law's podcast, The Get Up Show. It's a it's
a podcast for kids.
Speaker 1: You know, really like hits. That spot probably around like
five to eleven. Probably lets their podcast, they really do,
they really need a pod podcast.
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is her jewelry company and she makes the cutest stuff.
I'm telling you somebody came from for crying out loud.
If you do f col twenty, she'll give you twenty
percent off. And that's where I got the guitar pick
necklace for Xander. That was a huge hit. I love
that she does all these like really cute stuff with
different metals and and she can she'll rush you out
delivery if you ask her nicely. Anyway, Yeah, Gray by Tamramello.
And yes, oh, somebody asked her name is Tamramello and
she was she's like an actress. She was on the
show popular, The Ryan Murphy Show, and so somebody was like,
can you have her on the show, and I said we.
Speaker 1: Would, Yeah, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3: She's been in like a bunch of stuff. She's got
some good gossips.
Speaker 1: Okay, that'd be fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I think that's it.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Caitlin, Thanks everybody.
Speaker 3: You're a parent now don't f it up. Name