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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be great. We have UH Commander Cobra joining us,

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<v Speaker 1>which will be an interesting show. Commander Cobra grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in UH and resides now in New England and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a former US military vet and he works for the DoD.

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<v Speaker 1>He flies things like maybe airplanes and helicopters, amongst other things.

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<v Speaker 1>He's part of a great show here on kg R,

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<v Speaker 1>a dB called UAP Crossfire, And the reason why we're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing them out is kind of multifaceted, right, don uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we want to talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>this airplane that got hit by a helicopter, but also

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<v Speaker 1>kind of one of the coolest articles I've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time is come up and as an investigative journalist,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my like dream jobs, Like if there was

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<v Speaker 1>a dream job, that'd be like would you disappear and

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<v Speaker 1>go off the grid for any job where you just

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<v Speaker 1>disappear and nobody sees you, kind of like men in black, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like an X Files job in the news today. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting, you know that they have that kind of job,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to dive into what that job is.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear your guys opinion on all this

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<v Speaker 1>and a whole bunch more done. But are there any

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<v Speaker 1>jobs that you would just disappear off the grid for?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there enough money or maybe something you're passionate about.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had to get up go and disappear and

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<v Speaker 1>do something, what would it be?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess it kind of depends on what you

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<v Speaker 3>mean by disappear, Cause, like, if I could just go

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<v Speaker 3>off grid and continue to do this job, I'd be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be cool with that. But if I actually had

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<v Speaker 3>to like completely disappear from public view, oh man, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I mean, I love what I do, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>passionate about it. Kind of got that crusader Jane as

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<v Speaker 3>you like to call it. So I don't really think

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<v Speaker 3>that there is anything that would really make me say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, let you know, screw it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, there's a few different jobs I would

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<v Speaker 1>think about doing that would potentially bring me into this vein,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them is what we're going to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, and that's this right here, secretive FBI group

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<v Speaker 1>which basically investigates UFOs where they'll get purged by the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Government Efficiency report says, that's right, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>real life X files department. Who would have thought that

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Malder could have been based off of a real person.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't that be interesting if we're just all sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>and we found out that X files was all based

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<v Speaker 1>on real things, and you're like going back to your damn,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a mind, Like my mind just got totally raped,

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<v Speaker 1>like totally raped there, and my mind was just destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>by it. You know, the idea that X files was

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<v Speaker 1>based on true, real stories. Now I'm not saying that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case. Maybe some of them are, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are prophetic, right the World Trade Center nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>amongst other things. But I wouldn't be surprised like X

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<v Speaker 1>files in part was based on real government operations because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how they like to do it. And now we're

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<v Speaker 1>finding out that there is such a X files category

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<v Speaker 1>to the FBI where they do these secretive investigations. Pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cool though.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, it's pretty neat. Hopefully they actually do

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<v Speaker 3>conduct legitimate you know, investigations and that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, as I've mentioned multiple times, I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 3>fan of the X Files, you know, and so it

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<v Speaker 3>is certainly interesting that now, all of a sudden, and

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<v Speaker 3>who knows, maybe this was admitted a couple of years

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<v Speaker 3>ago to you know, but for the longest time it's like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we certainly don't have a department like that at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Wink wink, nudge, nudge. And now you know that so

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<v Speaker 3>many government agencies and subgroups are on the chopping block,

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<v Speaker 3>they have to come out and be like, well, wait, no,

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<v Speaker 3>hold on, what we do is important. You can't, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of us all.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a sudden. There is a X Files type program, which,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of fascinating to hear about all this,

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<v Speaker 1>to see all this, and to really dive into this,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, what if Fox Malder and Dana Scully

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<v Speaker 1>stories and sure they twisted it, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking that there's a Jersey devil and a moth

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<v Speaker 1>man and whatever. The septic tank swamp thing episode was

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<v Speaker 1>about where guy was taking and dropping a deuce and

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<v Speaker 1>swamp thing came out of the you know house in

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<v Speaker 1>Adam or whatever. I don't remember something. We'd like that

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<v Speaker 1>this really is a parasite man, I think is what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. But they had all these weird eventive like episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>including about them spraying things and people going insane for

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<v Speaker 1>like spraying crops and maybe weather modification and subtype. Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Malder would refer to real life like things that went on,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Holocaust and Project Paid, Operation paper Clip, and

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<v Speaker 1>he'd name real people Too'd like Henry Kishenjerny. Up, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Kissinger was responsible for Operational paper Clip, and not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people would know that, but due de

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<v Speaker 1>Foyas and other things, we now can see that. We

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<v Speaker 1>all now do know that. And it's interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>in the think about that maybe there is this department,

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<v Speaker 1>and if there is this department, do they leak the

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<v Speaker 1>data for Hollywood to promote these ideas Mike men in Black,

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<v Speaker 1>like when they had the little pen thing that allows

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<v Speaker 1>you to implant memories and just flashes and they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't see us here. What you saw was a

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<v Speaker 1>dude picking up his trash and throwing it out, And

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<v Speaker 1>they're like poo. That's what everyone thought for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the last fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Seconds, right, yeah, I mean, who knows what's actually going

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<v Speaker 3>on behind the scenes with the guard and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, because as we know full well, reality is

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<v Speaker 3>stranger than fiction, right, So I mean it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows well, and that's what it comes down to.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this article it kind of breaks into it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. It's is a secretive group of FBI agents

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<v Speaker 1>tasked with investigating UFOs is deeply concerned that they may

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<v Speaker 1>be next in the Department of Government Efficiency BURGE. According

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<v Speaker 1>to a new report, HMM Ryan Graves, executive director of

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<v Speaker 1>Americans for Safe Aerospace and former Navy pilots, told political

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<v Speaker 1>he had spoken with several agents within the UAP working Group.

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<v Speaker 1>Unidentified Anomalist Phenomenon, which is what UAP stands for, is

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<v Speaker 1>how the US government refers to UFOs. So of course

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<v Speaker 1>the algorithms don't catch it because UFO is like the

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<v Speaker 1>tinfoil hat conspiracy term, just like chemtrails are the tenfoil

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<v Speaker 1>hat conspiracy term for whether modification or you know, cloud seating.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI declined to comment on the FBI personal matters,

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<v Speaker 1>but did confirm that the agency investigates unidentified anomalist phenomena

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<v Speaker 1>when there is potential for violation of federal law, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>unlawful acts that could adversely affect our national interests, and

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<v Speaker 1>together the share and analyze intelligence to combat security threat

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<v Speaker 1>facing the United States. President Donald Trump's Justice Department began

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<v Speaker 1>removing FBI agents and prosecutors tied with the high profile

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<v Speaker 1>investigation into January sixth. So, don let's say you get

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<v Speaker 1>this gig right, You're you're working for the FBI and

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<v Speaker 1>you get to do X files type stuff. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you researching? What are you looking into? You have access

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<v Speaker 1>to all these government database We're gonna call it Hangar eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a hangar that has all this like

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<v Speaker 1>top secret government data that you see in X files.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it that you're what is it that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go and research? And for our listeners, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of curious. I want you guys to think of,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe drop in the chat. What would you look for

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<v Speaker 1>if you were hired as an FBI agent to investigate

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<v Speaker 1>X filesite type things. And here this is directly correlated

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<v Speaker 1>with the UAPs, but that's a pretty wide, pretty wide

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<v Speaker 1>range of different things you could study.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, I mean it's probably no secret. Anybody who

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<v Speaker 3>knows me knows that. If I'm in that position, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going straight for the Roswell files. I'm busting all the

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<v Speaker 3>Roswell files wide open. I want to know exactly what happened,

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<v Speaker 3>what was there, how many you know, bodies were recovered,

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<v Speaker 3>if they were alive, you know what was going on there?

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<v Speaker 3>The second file I'm probably opening. You know it sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 1>You really think that there's such a thing as a bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you'd think with all the bigfoot hunters, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>would have shot them and cooked them up on a

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<v Speaker 1>grill and been like, mm mmm, get me some of

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<v Speaker 1>that furry meat. Hells, yeah, you know they went out

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<v Speaker 1>there and shot bigfoot and then they like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>ate them. I don't know what else to tell you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all the proof. You know, he's done or with

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<v Speaker 1>You know. What's interesting is I pulled up the Library

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<v Speaker 1>they got names. It says mister Charles Friel or government

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<v Speaker 3>Gimblin film. To this very day, the Patterson Gimblin film

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<v Speaker 3>has never been debunked, no matter how many times people

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that brought up a couple of times. Well

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<v Speaker 3>didn't they admit on their deathbed that it was faked? No,

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<v Speaker 3>never happened. So, you know, when we have a film

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<v Speaker 3>as conclusive as the Patterson Gimblin film that despite all

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<v Speaker 3>scientific methodology and technology. You know, that's that's something.

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<v Speaker 1>Which film? Which image is that? Is that the one

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<v Speaker 1>a guy in the costume? Is that the one time

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<v Speaker 3>Well, once again, you know you're saying it's a guy

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<v Speaker 3>in a guerrilla costume. That has never been proven.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it still looks like it. Come on, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody said, here's a million dollars, is this a

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I would put it on the money of the

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<v Speaker 3>scientific experts that have used the most advanced technology to

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<v Speaker 1>I know I still think it's a dude in a costume,

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<v Speaker 1>on That's what's great about this program is we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to agree. Don I think it's interesting. You might

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<v Speaker 1>think giants are stupid or silly. I don't think. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Sasquatch is silly or stupid. There's a reason,

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<v Speaker 1>well people, why people believe in these things. And X

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<v Speaker 1>files like working in X files. You know, a tops

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<v Speaker 1>government program. I think it's interesting. I think it would

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<v Speaker 1>be something that you know, I would start off with.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of what I would start off with, don,

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<v Speaker 1>if this is my job, UFOs, I guess the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing I'm gonna do is do something simple like go

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I thought that would be interesting. The black

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<v Speaker 1>out what this black pyramid is that's sending these like

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<v Speaker 1>signals into outer space. That's interesting to me. Maybe going

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<v Speaker 1>to Antarctica, which our guests, by the way, has been to,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like and how he got involved in doing something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, which is pretty cool. Commander Cobra here will

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But these are just some different ideas of

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<v Speaker 1>area fifty one. I think that's probably overplayed at this point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that the government secret base is

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<v Speaker 1>you need like a little combination to use the outhouse

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<v Speaker 1>there and everyone's like, oh, it's a private outhouse. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an elevator to go to the secret military base.

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<v Speaker 1>People go in, They're like, how many people can you

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things if you're spying, you're searching

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<v Speaker 1>on it, looking at it the whole time. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that there's a secret government agency going after

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<v Speaker 1>like a Hangar eighteen idea where they keep all this

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<v Speaker 1>data like in the X files, and why would they,

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<v Speaker 1>like we talked about yesterday, would they actually keep accurate,

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<v Speaker 3>For everything right exactly? And and you know that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>files for declassification, Yes, the the burden of proof has

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<v Speaker 3>to rely on some sort of evidence. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you get your hands on a declassified file from some

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<v Speaker 3>government agency or like, aha, there it is. But we

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<v Speaker 3>also have to keep in mind that these agencies are

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<v Speaker 3>very experienced in deception, they're very experienced in propaganda, and

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<v Speaker 3>we know that they have levied that to their advantage

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<v Speaker 3>before with u you know, supposed declassified files that have

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<v Speaker 3>that in and of itself is such a a murky

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<v Speaker 3>rabbit hole sort of go down, because the implication really

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<v Speaker 3>opens up a very big door for anything that we've

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<v Speaker 3>gotten through declassification over the last several years at all

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I think that declassification of anything, if

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<v Speaker 1>it is legitimate, will be interesting. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>like we just talked about yesterday about the JFK files,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Epstein report. Who knows what they'll will have

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<v Speaker 1>for us in the near future. But what is accurate

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<v Speaker 1>what is not? I think it's interesting, nonetheless that they

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<v Speaker 1>have like a UAP research. Of course they do. Don

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<v Speaker 1>we should have known this all long. I wonder how

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<v Speaker 1>long the FBI has been researching UFOs, and I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if that's where the stories of X files really came from.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that was my big conversation starter and topic

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<v Speaker 1>does some juicy squatch ribs. We got Don Squatch calling

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<v Speaker 1>you Don Squatch in the chat right now, So like,

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<v Speaker 1>Don Squatch, that's your new nickname here for now on

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<v Speaker 1>the Don that's a new T shirt. We'll publish that

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<v Speaker 1>big giant bigfoot Rundown live shirt we never published. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll I call it the Don Squatch and what we'll

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<v Speaker 1>Squatch is where it's at, which is funny, it's interesting. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>whether true or not. And then he's like, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have heard before. We talked about briefly yesterday is a

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<v Speaker 1>new world Order, which is an Adam Weiss hopt utopian idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't know who Adam Weis, Hopt is

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<v Speaker 1>and they took basically the Communist Manifesto and the Illuminati

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<v Speaker 1>Manifesto made it the Communist Manifesto. We know that because

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<v Speaker 1>truth on the matter. And it's a very interesting subject.

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<v Speaker 1>But the term New World Order seems to be going

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<v Speaker 1>about this because Donald Trump is talking about unifying America, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the continent of North America under one nation, right absorbed Canada, Greenland,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he's trying to take Greenland by forrest.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he's gonna if that's what he's gonna do,

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<v Speaker 1>and why Greenland is there like oil, there is there

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<v Speaker 1>natural resources. Why is the United States going after Greenland?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, quite frankly, the most logical reason for the United

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<v Speaker 3>all empires, but particularly with regard to the military conflicts

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<v Speaker 3>Among the two primary driving factors, expanding unipolar hegemony and

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<v Speaker 3>also the theft of resources. I mean, imperialism, colonialism go

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<v Speaker 1>Well. He wants to purchase Greenland, and the possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>turning Canada to US state that would be all interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump on Greenland, I think we're going to have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has said as fireback as twenty nineteen that he

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<v Speaker 1>wonder why Denmark? I wonder because the Vikings called it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't the Vikings. It wasn't it the Vikings that gave

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<v Speaker 1>Greenland its name because they didn't want anyone to go.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted everyone to go there, but they didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>them to go Iceland, so Iceland was Iceland to be misleading,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was actually the Greenland, and Greenland was actually

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<v Speaker 1>Iceland was covered in ice.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not sure exactly the history of the naming

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<v Speaker 3>of the countries, but you are correct in the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that they were initially essentially founded by the Vikings, but

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<v Speaker 3>Norse explorers, so well, I guess technically, in Greenland's case,

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<v Speaker 3>Danish explorers, because if we're to get super like nitpicky

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<v Speaker 3>with the linguistics, Norse only refers to like Norwegian Vikings

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<v Speaker 3>and the Danes would be Danish. But that just goes

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<v Speaker 3>into you know, the usages of words and all that

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<v Speaker 3>sort of business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting. Canada would be would benefit from becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a US state? Trump says, I don't know. Would would

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<v Speaker 1>benefit from Canada becoming a United States state? Is the question?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the benefit to US? Trump urges Jordan Egypt to

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<v Speaker 1>accept more Palestinian refugees. You know, all of this stuff

435
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<v Speaker 1>is going on, but it's all the idea that he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to remember. The North American Union and the FEMA regions.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones was always talking about everyone's like get that

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<v Speaker 1>tinfoil hat. Alex Jones, a New World Order, All that

439
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<v Speaker 1>stuff's not real. Well, let's talk about this for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a res report on this very subject.

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<v Speaker 8>Eighteen years ago, the Alex Jones film Endgame warned us

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<v Speaker 8>of the coming North American Union as a stealth, incremental

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<v Speaker 8>step towards a one world government.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a big idea, a new world order.

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<v Speaker 11>President Bush said that the New World Order was in tune,

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<v Speaker 11>and that's what they were working for. The UN is

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<v Speaker 11>part of that government. There were right now very significantly

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<v Speaker 11>for a North American Union.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why there's a lot of people in Washington. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care too much about our borders.

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<v Speaker 7>Then you think these people work on what I call

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<v Speaker 7>systemic methodology, meaning that you take a pie. Just imagine

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<v Speaker 7>you take an apple pie, and you slice this apple

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<v Speaker 7>pie into lots of very small pieces, and you put

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<v Speaker 7>in front of each one of these pieces. You're men

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<v Speaker 7>or woman of trust. And by controlling this individual, you

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<v Speaker 7>control an entire organization. And that's how you control with

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<v Speaker 7>very very small power based and entire global population of

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<v Speaker 7>six billion people.

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<v Speaker 9>For over fifty years, the Builderberg Group constructed the European

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<v Speaker 9>Union by stealth under the guise of trade deals. Now

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<v Speaker 9>the elite are using the same secretive program to complete

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<v Speaker 9>the North American Union. The Builderberg Group would later admit

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<v Speaker 9>that their mission was the formation of the EU. Once

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<v Speaker 9>the EU was established under the guise of trade deals,

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<v Speaker 9>a North American Union and Asian Union would be formed.

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<v Speaker 9>The three interlocking superstates formed the core of the global government.

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<v Speaker 9>From September twelfth to September fourteenth in bamf, Canada, hundreds

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<v Speaker 9>of elected and appointed government leaders from Canada, Mexico, and

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<v Speaker 9>the United States met in secret. The Judicial Watch Foundations

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<v Speaker 9>submitted Freedom of Information Act request to obtain the full

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<v Speaker 9>agenda and minutes of the secret assembly. Many federal agencies refused,

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<v Speaker 9>citing national security. The Foundation finally succeeded and did receive

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<v Speaker 9>thousands of pages of documents. The pages chronicle and already

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<v Speaker 9>operating North American Union, transportation, law, enforcement, agriculture, regulation, banking, manufacturing, construction, education, immigration,

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<v Speaker 9>and even the military are being merged with no input

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<v Speaker 9>from the people or their elected representatives in Congress. In Parliament,

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<v Speaker 9>one of the first items on their agenda was to

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<v Speaker 9>stress how important it was that their plan quote be

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<v Speaker 9>carried out by stealth. The controllers also talked about exploding

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<v Speaker 9>the public's fears of climate change to push a continent

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<v Speaker 9>wide tax to fund the new government. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 9>about the death of Canada's what's happening in there right now?

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<v Speaker 9>The death of your sovereignty is happening in there right now.

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<v Speaker 9>CNN has even reported that these individuals have put out

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<v Speaker 9>the policy reports through the Council on Foreign Relations that

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<v Speaker 9>write for scholarly white papers to end the United States,

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<v Speaker 9>to end Canada, and to end Mexico. We went into

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<v Speaker 9>downtown Ottawa and talked to locals. What's your view on

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<v Speaker 9>losing canada sovereignty?

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<v Speaker 4>I like this country to stay as it is, and

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<v Speaker 4>I love the United States to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, what did you say about the American Union? It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end up happening.

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<v Speaker 9>When you read human history, when you study it, all

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<v Speaker 9>you see is elites trying to dominate, subterfuge, Maccabellian backstabbing,

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<v Speaker 9>And somehow in the last fifty years they convinced Westerners

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<v Speaker 9>that the government's fine, can do no wrong, trust them.

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<v Speaker 9>How did this happen?

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<v Speaker 10>It's easy to lead cheap.

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<v Speaker 8>Without ever mentioning it during his campaign for obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 8>President Trump is now introducing the public to the idea

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<v Speaker 8>of a North American Union.

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<v Speaker 10>Greenland is a wonderful place we needed for international security,

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<v Speaker 10>and I'm sure that Denmark will.

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<v Speaker 6>Come along.

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<v Speaker 10>I think it's costing them a lot of money to

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<v Speaker 10>maintain it, to keep it. The people of Greenland are

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<v Speaker 10>not happy with Denmark, you know. I think they're happy

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<v Speaker 10>with us. We had represented as my son and representatives

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<v Speaker 10>one up there two weeks ago, and they're like us.

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<v Speaker 10>So we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 5>But Greenland is.

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<v Speaker 10>Necessary, not for us, it's necessary for international security.

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<v Speaker 5>What I'd like to seek Canada become our fifty first day.

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<v Speaker 5>We give them protection, military protection. We don't need them

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<v Speaker 5>for anything. We don't need them for energy. We have

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<v Speaker 5>more energy than they do. We don't need that for energy.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'd love to see that. But some people say

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<v Speaker 5>that would be a long shot. If people wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>play the game.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, it doesn't sound like a long shot at all.

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<v Speaker 8>It sounds like the North American Union, except it will

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<v Speaker 8>probably be called something else. And if you fight against it,

525
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<v Speaker 8>the government will ship you to a prison in El Salvador,

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<v Speaker 8>elon Musk says, it's the way Greg Reece reporting. The

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<v Speaker 8>REACH Report is now fully funded by my subset.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to go ahead and depart ya if you're a prisoner.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting concept, you know. I find the whole idea all

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<v Speaker 1>around of a North American union kind of prophetic because

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<v Speaker 1>it's one step closer to a unionized world, right, a

532
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<v Speaker 1>one world government. And if a one world government has

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<v Speaker 1>evil leadership and goes awry, who's gonna protect us? We're

534
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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to stand up for ourselves. That is what

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<v Speaker 1>it comes down to. And this is like everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Christians and other religious people have thought

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<v Speaker 1>and claimed for years that one world government's on its way.

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<v Speaker 1>Werner von Braun I believe, in his deathbed made claims

539
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<v Speaker 1>of faking a UFO invasion on the planet and that

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<v Speaker 1>that would help unify the world and create a one

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<v Speaker 1>world government or new world order. That was the whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea behind global warming, amongst other things. According to many

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<v Speaker 1>people that were involved in the idea of global warming,

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a need for it to establish global government.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do they want global government so badly? Don What

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<v Speaker 1>is it that makes them drue? Why is it Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's like we gotta have Canada. I want Canada and

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<v Speaker 1>I want Greenland. I mean, I understand Greenland. Listen, the

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<v Speaker 1>people are unhappy, Denmark's not doing its job.

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<v Speaker 3>And if those people America that those are lies, it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's nothing but lies and propaganda. You know, it's there's

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<v Speaker 3>any excuse. I mean, hell, they they use the exact

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<v Speaker 3>same thing. Oh, the people of Vietnam are unhappy, we

554
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<v Speaker 3>need to go in and intervene. Oh the people of

555
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<v Speaker 3>Iraq they hate Saddam so much, we need to intervene.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the people of Russia they hate Putin so much,

557
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<v Speaker 3>we need to interviewe. It's that's always the excuse. It's

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<v Speaker 3>all a bunch of bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you suggesting that we're going to go in

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<v Speaker 1>and buy force, attack Greenland and take it over.

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<v Speaker 3>I would certainly hope that doesn't happen. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when that very question was asked to Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, are you going to rule out using military force?

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't say no, So who knows. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>that's probably in all honesty, probably just him playing cards

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<v Speaker 3>close to the vest I highly doubt that he would

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<v Speaker 3>be as in sane enough to use military force against

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<v Speaker 3>a NATO ally. But I mean, who knows, But the

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<v Speaker 3>fact of the matter remains. I mean, this is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what Trump has been pushing for for a while now,

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<v Speaker 3>ever since talking about, oh yeah, let's make Canada the

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<v Speaker 3>fifty first state. We might even bring in Mexico. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he even assigned an executive order renaming the Gulf of

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<v Speaker 3>Mexico to the Gulf of America, which I shared a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty funny meme earlier with the picture of that says

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<v Speaker 3>golf of how does this make grocery prices go down?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's just the other question a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>had is how are when are we going to start

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<v Speaker 1>seeing some relief. To keep in mind, he's just been

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<v Speaker 1>in office for what a week, week and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, on day two of his administration, he issued a

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<v Speaker 3>statement or he said in the middle of a conference

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<v Speaker 3>or something. Is reported by Associated Press that Trump outright

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<v Speaker 3>said that lowering prices and address inflation is not his

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<v Speaker 3>number one priority, despite the fact that that was definitely

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<v Speaker 3>the case on the campaign trail. But you know, bouncing

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<v Speaker 3>back to the North American Union, we put it out.

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<v Speaker 3>We put out an article on the Free thought project

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<v Speaker 3>not that long ago from Technocracy News. I believe he

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<v Speaker 3>was written by Patrick Wood covering this subject, says, is

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<v Speaker 3>Trump pursuing technocracy's dream to create the great American technique?

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<v Speaker 3>Recent threats by President elect Donald Trump to annex Greenland,

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<v Speaker 3>Canada and the Panama Canal and potentially Mexico fall in

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<v Speaker 3>line with a nearly centuries old globalist plot. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick goes into highlighting how, you know, going back to

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and five, the Bush administration, how George W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 3>Valente Fox and Stephen Harper, who were you know, respectively,

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<v Speaker 3>the heads of Mexico and Canada. You know, we're attempting

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<v Speaker 3>to push this and there was enough pushback at that

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<v Speaker 3>point in time, you know, against you know, they were

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<v Speaker 3>trying to push it through through things like the North

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<v Speaker 3>American Free Trade Agreement and things of that nature. There

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<v Speaker 3>was enough pushback at that time to prevent that from happening.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, Trump is, you know, right in line

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<v Speaker 3>with a whole lot of this stuff that has been

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<v Speaker 3>going on, to the point where there's even this article

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<v Speaker 3>that I was able to drag up that I'll put

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<v Speaker 3>up here on the screen out of the Atlantic from

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it was from some years ago. Now, I

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<v Speaker 3>had to find an archive copy because of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>corporate media is dying, so they have to make everything

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<v Speaker 3>behind a paywall. Now. But the title of the article

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<v Speaker 3>from The Atlantic Elon Musk's anti Semitic, apartheid loving grandfather.

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<v Speaker 3>And while they mostly focus on Musk's grandfather's Joshua Hadelman,

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<v Speaker 3>they mostly focus on, you know, the fact that he

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<v Speaker 3>was an anti semid and you know, very much favorite apartheid,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was, by the words of his own friends,

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<v Speaker 3>a fascist. One of the parts that this article does

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<v Speaker 3>cover and sort of just glosses over, was the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he involved in the Technocracy Incorporated back in the

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirties, which had a dream of creating what they

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<v Speaker 3>called at the time the North American Technatee, which was

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<v Speaker 3>a merger of the United States, Canada, and Mexico and

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of other locations. So this is Elon Musk's

626
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<v Speaker 3>own grandfather in nineteen thirty eight working on a program

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<v Speaker 3>that had dreams of creating a one North American Union

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<v Speaker 3>style merger between the US, Mexico, and Canada. So, you

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<v Speaker 3>know the fact that Musk is so heavily involved in

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's campaign and is involved in rigging politics the way

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<v Speaker 3>that he is, and that this is the agenda that

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump appears to be pursuing. Seems like it is

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<v Speaker 3>the globalist plot coming to fruition through the Maga administration.

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<v Speaker 3>As I warned people, would be the case, and as

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<v Speaker 3>many people and I'm not going to take all the credit,

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<v Speaker 3>as many many people warned would be the case if

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<v Speaker 3>they fell for the siop that is Donald Trump, you knows.

638
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<v Speaker 3>As my colleague and friend Carrie Windler put it quite well,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is just conservative. Obama MAGA is literally just hope

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<v Speaker 3>and change.

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<v Speaker 1>Occupy is you know, yeah, because that was his foot

642
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<v Speaker 1>feet on the ground was occupy, remember the occupy movement.

643
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<v Speaker 1>They actually have a flag for the North American Union.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it. I keep seeing it all over online.

645
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<v Speaker 1>When I looked it up and I was like, oh,

646
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<v Speaker 1>there's a North American Union flag. Somebody either got creative

647
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<v Speaker 1>or yeah, this is you know, this could be who knows.

648
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<v Speaker 3>Because I don't know if that's official or not.

649
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<v Speaker 1>Remember the Obama flag. Then he had his own flag

650
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<v Speaker 1>that came out. You know. It's interesting. So, but the

651
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<v Speaker 1>idea of establishing global government and unifying the United States

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<v Speaker 1>with Canada and then maybe Mexico. It's interesting to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Mexico. I think Mexico would be much

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<v Speaker 1>harder to commandeer versus Canada because they have all the

655
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<v Speaker 1>cartels down there, right, and they're they're not going to

656
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<v Speaker 1>adhere to our life if we go on there when

657
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<v Speaker 1>we got law enforcement and all of a sudden, you know,

658
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<v Speaker 1>they'd have to use force. That's what it comes down to.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything comes down to the our government would have to

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<v Speaker 1>use force.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a potential reason for I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 3>is the primary reason, because of course, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>this big agenda going on right now, you know, scapegoating

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<v Speaker 3>the immigration issue with all of these you know, false

665
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<v Speaker 3>rhetoric of equating immigration to an evasion invasion, uh, you know,

666
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<v Speaker 3>the lies of an immigrant crime wave, which are just

667
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<v Speaker 3>absolutely bogus. You can look up the statistics from what

668
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<v Speaker 3>was it that I sent you earlier? I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me look into my messages right now. This is

670
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<v Speaker 3>a little embarrassing that I can't remember, but that's what

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<v Speaker 3>it was. It was the Brennan Center for Justice. It

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<v Speaker 3>just took a minute from my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's the right. Sometimes the hamster's running a little slow.

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<v Speaker 1>Some days are faster than others, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But my point is so we can look up the

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<v Speaker 3>statistics from the Brennan Center for Justice and see that

677
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.559
<v Speaker 3>all this rhetoric about an immigrant crime wave is just

678
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 3>absolute nonsense. It's not supported by the facts, you know.

679
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 3>And for the most part, this is being used to

680
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<v Speaker 3>you know, revitalize the failed war on drugs, militarize the border,

681
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<v Speaker 3>which is being used to push through biometric surveillance and

682
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, digital ID entry, track and trace, all that

683
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 3>sort of nonsense. But the interesting thing is if they

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<v Speaker 3>want to go ahead and declare Cartels to be a

685
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<v Speaker 3>terrorist organization, that then opens the door for Trump to

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<v Speaker 3>use Bush era emergency declarations and authorizations of use of

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<v Speaker 3>military force to be able to use the military to

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<v Speaker 3>invade Mexico under the pretext of attacking the cartels and

689
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<v Speaker 3>finding the Cartels. Now, I don't know if that would happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously it would be a very big problem internationally. Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the Mexican government would be very opposed to that. It

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<v Speaker 3>would without a doubt lead to conflict between Mexican military

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<v Speaker 3>and US military. So let's just hope that that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>It does seem quite far fetched, and I don't necessarily

695
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<v Speaker 3>think it will, but you know, I guess time will tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it all depends on what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>disasters they cook up. They try to unify us in

698
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<v Speaker 1>the end of the at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>in all questions, it's all like what geared towards what

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<v Speaker 1>will lead us down the path of globalism? Right, and

701
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>we should be scared about that, and these different ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Weather modification is getting a little out of hand. We

703
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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's hampering with the weather actually does now,

704
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<v Speaker 1>don if you could go ahead and make it nice

705
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<v Speaker 1>and warm, let's say in your region by spraying things,

706
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, it's you know, sixty degrees

707
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in December where it's usually ice cold, and or January,

708
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and now we're in February here. You know, that's interesting

709
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<v Speaker 1>because there are there are program you can pay for

710
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<v Speaker 1>it get paid for to avoid rain, keep it sunshiny

711
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<v Speaker 1>for like weddings. You can pay a hundred thousand dollars.

712
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>They'll do cloud seating or do whatever they need to

713
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<v Speaker 1>do in order to make sure that you have a

714
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 1>sunny wedding. Isn't that crazy? They have a whole company.

715
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<v Speaker 1>But interesting enough, we don't know what the side effects

716
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<v Speaker 1>are of water weather modification. It's going on all over

717
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<v Speaker 1>the place, whether modification is and you can look it up.

718
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<v Speaker 1>The government has programs openly on their website. They're spraying

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. And there's this interesting story I

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<v Speaker 1>caught on in full Wars today and I found it

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating because Japan has hit an all time record high

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<v Speaker 1>of snow. They got four feet of snow in twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of snow. Bro I'd be making some

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<v Speaker 1>killer castles in that snow, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, that's absolutely insane. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 3>there are certain portions of Japan, particularly to the north,

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<v Speaker 3>that do tend to get snow. I mean Mount Fuji,

728
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<v Speaker 3>it tends to get its first sprinkling of snow around October.

729
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<v Speaker 3>But I would only assume that this isn't a location

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<v Speaker 3>that does not get a whole lot of snow. So,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, four feet in twelve hours is just absolutely nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>That is nuts. And Don Sealizar, who I met down

733
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<v Speaker 1>at the inauguration, wrote this article an unprecedented blizzards struck

734
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<v Speaker 1>Japan Tuesday, smashing records and prompting wide scale disruptions, as

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<v Speaker 1>many compared it to the recent snowfall bizarrely scene in

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<v Speaker 1>southern US states. And here you go, here's some video

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<v Speaker 1>of Look at this. This is like slow lapse of

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<v Speaker 1>the snow falling just bearing vehicles. I mean, look at that.

739
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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. I mean interesting. You know it's still snowing there.

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<v Speaker 1>Japan hits records snow and this guy is walking and

741
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>it's up to his waist in some areas, and I

742
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:58.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know. This reminds me of those stories my father

743
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<v Speaker 1>used to tell me who grew up in the up

744
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<v Speaker 1>Upper Peninsula where they would just take snowmobiles to school. Well,

745
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't take the car, so you snowmobile

746
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<v Speaker 1>to school and you still go to school even though

747
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 1>there's like four feet of snow. Uh. You know, it's real,

748
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>it happens. That's what they do it in Upper Peninsula.

749
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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they do it in Alaska and Canada too.

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00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.760
<v Speaker 1>There's like no excuse for not going to school or

751
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<v Speaker 1>going into work. You're taking the snowmobile. Everyone has a snowmobile. North.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's as much as I like the cold, I

753
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 3>don't think I like it that much.

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00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Check this out. Here's some videos of people diving, like

755
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<v Speaker 1>like diving into the snow.

756
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<v Speaker 9>Here.

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00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Let's see that again. This guy straight off the steps

758
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:44.639
<v Speaker 1>and this gets completely like that's three four feet of snow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty and it's ob I h I r Obi

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<v Speaker 1>Hero Japan is where there's look at all this.

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<v Speaker 3>That was my next question was which prefecture it happened in.

762
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not quite sure where Obi Hero is. Check this out.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at this guy's shovel and it's almost all

764
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<v Speaker 1>the way up to his shoulders. Then again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say anything, but Japanese people are kind of short.

766
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 1>They're small people. There are a lot of times, I mean,

767
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:14.760
<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong. You know, I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Asian clubs back in the day. We had one called

769
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<v Speaker 1>Asia Moon, and if I went in there, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like a foot taller than everyone else. You know. Well,

771
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just one of those things. And like Japan,

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00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you got them shovel and it looks like it's deep.

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00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not quite sure how deep it really is, but

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<v Speaker 1>as you can see the snow as a result, of

775
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:37.639
<v Speaker 1>potential weather modification. That's what people are claiming anyways, is

776
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>what's causing these elaborate and crazy weather change in patterns,

777
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>pattern changes in weather, and not everyone can explain it.

778
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's our magnetic pull shift that's causing these weather

779
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.039
<v Speaker 1>patterns to change, or maybe we just haven't been keeping

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<v Speaker 1>track long enough to really know if this is a

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<v Speaker 1>real record or not.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Well, I mean it's probably a combination of all

783
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 3>those things, right because I mean we have all these

784
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, extreme weather events happening around the globe that

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<v Speaker 3>the climate alarmist crowd wants to attempt to attribute to

786
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<v Speaker 3>their doomsday climate narrative, but of course most of it

787
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 3>is actually attributable to either whether modification or simply the

788
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.719
<v Speaker 3>fact that you know, we, as you've mentioned, have not

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<v Speaker 3>been keeping enough records for long enough to actually be

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<v Speaker 3>able to discern, you know, what is and isn't you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of record event. Of course, there is the

792
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<v Speaker 3>poll shift that is, you know, allegedly beginning to take place.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still not that informed about that subject. So that's

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00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 3>about all I can say about it. But you know,

795
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 3>it's it's probably you know, a new English is hard

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes and a number of contributing factors to these anompolies.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I mean, take a look at this four

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<v Speaker 1>feet of snow in Japan. Weather modification is a real thing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about on the show stratospheric aerosol injections, the

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<v Speaker 1>spraying aluminum oxide in wells bough cloud seating, it was

801
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<v Speaker 1>aluminium oxide, and bury them salts to reflect the sun.

802
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<v Speaker 1>The military under op was it Operation Popeye. Project Popeye

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<v Speaker 1>got them monsoon season lasts longer. NASA has admitted that

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<v Speaker 1>they can change rain in the snow and snowing in

805
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<v Speaker 1>the rain, and hail into this rain and don't rain

806
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<v Speaker 1>in the l and do all sorts of interesting things.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there was a recent and twenty fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>study with weather modification North Dakota. They had it raining

809
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<v Speaker 1>for two weeks straight, so they stopped, they withheld and

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<v Speaker 1>deceease the current weather modification program up there. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole government website in Texas dedicated to weather modification,

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<v Speaker 1>and New Mexico and Nevada. So a lot of these

813
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<v Speaker 1>drier areas are researching met weather modification. But what's the

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<v Speaker 1>impact around the globe is that what we're seeing now

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<v Speaker 1>because of stratospheric aerosol injections that the military and private

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<v Speaker 1>contractors and everything else, everyone everyone was doing to make

817
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<v Speaker 1>money to combat climate change. It wasn't really needed at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But here we have crazy four feet of snow in Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, you know, so who knows, you know what

821
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<v Speaker 3>the actual cause behind it is, but I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well here's a real quick on that same subject. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the news article that I wanted to get to because

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<v Speaker 1>I know that we have our guests joining us in

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<v Speaker 1>a few We have cloud seating in the UAE. Could

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<v Speaker 1>drow uh was it cloud seating in the UA Could

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<v Speaker 1>drones soon be making it rain? This is a real

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<v Speaker 1>news article right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the interesting thing about it is, uh, the

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<v Speaker 3>geo engineering in industry is probably its highest in the UAE.

832
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<v Speaker 3>It's either I'd probably either put money on the UAE

833
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 3>or China. Both of those areas, uh, you know has

834
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:14.599
<v Speaker 3>such a massive geoengineering industry behind them, you know, for

835
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:19.199
<v Speaker 3>like like you said, you know, for weddings and make

836
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.039
<v Speaker 3>sure it's all nice and sunny for the weddings. I

837
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:23.559
<v Speaker 3>know that as far back as two thousand and eight.

838
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 3>This is These are mainstream news articles that admit this

839
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:31.599
<v Speaker 3>that China was able to use geoengineering to push away

840
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:36.800
<v Speaker 3>rain from one of their big political celebrations. I can't

841
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.400
<v Speaker 3>remember what it was, but something about, you know, celebrating.

842
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 1>I remember the Olympics. They were spraying to prevent they

843
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>have good weather for the Olympics. They were they were

844
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>spring too, That's.

845
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 3>What it was. It was the Olympics.

846
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay, So we're on the same page. See

847
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>synchronous in the year it will check this out. This

848
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.800
<v Speaker 1>is an article from not too long ago on the

849
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:07.320
<v Speaker 1>same subject. It says, hold on here here it is

850
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:11.719
<v Speaker 1>company offers rain free weddings for one hundred pounds. It's

851
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:15.199
<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand dollars. A luxury holiday company is offering

852
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 1>to use geo engineering to guarantee fairweather and clear skies

853
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.480
<v Speaker 1>for a starting price of about two hundred thousand dollars.

854
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And that's from ten years ago. So you know, when

855
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:27.519
<v Speaker 1>we talk about these things, it isn't like, oh, we're

856
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.280
<v Speaker 1>making this stuff up. They've been talking and doing this

857
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:33.440
<v Speaker 1>for quite some time and probably for like I said,

858
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 1>since obviously Vietnam. We know about Popeye, which is Operation

859
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Popeye or Project Popeye, and then there's other ones that

860
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 1>don's mentioned historically. Weather modification is something that goes on.

861
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.119
<v Speaker 1>But the impacts are now. They're getting four feet of

862
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:49.440
<v Speaker 1>snow in Japan potentially, and we're having cold forty degree

863
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 1>weather in Miami, Florida while I'm there, because maybe the

864
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>global warming gods just don't you know, they don't like me.

865
00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it was nice to come back to

866
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin where it was also equally as cold, like forty degrees,

867
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:05.519
<v Speaker 1>and it really made no difference of us in Miami

868
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:10.440
<v Speaker 1>or Milwaukee here at home. But I could have used

869
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 1>some global warming, thank you very much. It's just not happening.

870
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 1>I want it to happen so badly. Right now it's

871
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>cold here in Miwaka. Oh. But it's interesting, you know,

872
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>all these different subjects, these different items that are going on.

873
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Talking about the biggest snowfall ever in Japan that's taking

874
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>place of twelve hours with four feet of snow. Incredible snowfall,

875
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:39.679
<v Speaker 1>incredible snowfall, interesting stuff all around. So that being said,

876
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.039
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on as well with military and

877
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:46.280
<v Speaker 1>drones and robots. They had to fight off our face

878
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>off with drones versus robodog and the UK Sun covered it.

879
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty interesting. How long before robots do the

880
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:56.639
<v Speaker 1>fighting for US in the military, and I'm sure they're

881
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:59.800
<v Speaker 1>already using them at some level, but this is the US,

882
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>excuse me not the UK son Future of war. Watch

883
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:06.960
<v Speaker 1>drone an armed robot robo dog fight to the desk,

884
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>sparking fears of first machine war, you know, like, what

885
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 1>is it? We had Terminator Vinney's Black. They had the

886
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.719
<v Speaker 1>good old movie where you know, deals with time travel

887
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:19.679
<v Speaker 1>and the guy comes back in the future worrying about

888
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, the future and how they could change it.

889
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Came back to kill was a John O'Connor, and obviously

890
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.159
<v Speaker 1>he failed. But here we go, We're gonna have some

891
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:33.519
<v Speaker 1>video of what is actually a robot dog and a

892
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>drone facing off and doing battle because here you go

893
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.320
<v Speaker 1>check this out. That's just crazy. I mean, that's crazy

894
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>cool if you ask me, that's insane. Man, No, man,

895
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:48.079
<v Speaker 1>it's totally insane. What's with this ad here? All right? Anyways?

896
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Crazy stuff? You know, robots are coming their way, won't

897
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 1>belong to well, the exoskeletons and you know, super soldiers

898
00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.679
<v Speaker 1>with chips in their brain or the brain cloud interface

899
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and the sharing consciousness and memories and everything else. The

900
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 1>future is really interesting, especially when it comes to synthetic

901
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 1>telepathy and all these different things the military is working

902
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>on and the way the future is going. But I'm

903
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>really excited to bring on our next guest. We've had

904
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people on from Kgira and all over

905
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the United States as a citizen journalist platform run news outlet.

906
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>We've also had musicians and artists and people of all

907
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:28.719
<v Speaker 1>walks of life. But the Commander Cobra who we're having

908
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 1>on as an ex military vet. He grew up and

909
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:34.599
<v Speaker 1>now resides in New England on a farm with his

910
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.599
<v Speaker 1>best friend and wife several animals in the woods of Maine.

911
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 1>Career aviator for the US Military, served with all the

912
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:48.039
<v Speaker 1>branches except for the Space Force, performing mission operations, flight instruction,

913
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and test operation. He currently works as a contractor for

914
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.199
<v Speaker 1>the Department of Defense as a pilot and engineer. His

915
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:59.559
<v Speaker 1>assignments have taken him globally, including to the Arctic and Antarctic, Asia,

916
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 1>West Asia, and the United States. I want to welcome

917
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:07.559
<v Speaker 1>to the show, Commander Cobra. Welcome to the Rundown Live.

918
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us today. What a great pleasure

919
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:12.079
<v Speaker 1>to have you on. And I got to ask you,

920
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 1>how did you get involved in all this? What made

921
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you join the military? Did you just want when they

922
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:18.199
<v Speaker 1>wake up and that's what you wanted to do, or

923
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:20.119
<v Speaker 1>you play with g I Joe Dolls at a very

924
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 1>young age. Oh you're you're muted, cabin Commander Cobra here

925
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.800
<v Speaker 1>on your end, dare.

926
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:30.199
<v Speaker 6>I didn't want to cause any problems.

927
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 1>When I caused a problem, it happens all the time,

928
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:36.400
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. But how did you get involved

929
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:37.199
<v Speaker 1>in the military.

930
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.559
<v Speaker 6>I didn't have the Gi Joe Dolls, just wasn't part

931
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:40.760
<v Speaker 6>of it.

932
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:43.159
<v Speaker 4>But I was about probably three three and a half,

933
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:49.599
<v Speaker 4>fairly distinct early memory, and I saw a skyrider that

934
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:53.280
<v Speaker 4>was over my grandparents' house and you know, printing out

935
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:56.519
<v Speaker 4>whatever the advertisement was. And from that point on I

936
00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 4>was kind of fused that I wanted to be in

937
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:02.000
<v Speaker 4>a pilot to fly, and my dad was in the

938
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:06.119
<v Speaker 4>Air Force. He wasn't a pilot, but I just always

939
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:07.800
<v Speaker 4>wanted to go to the military, always wanted to be

940
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:08.320
<v Speaker 4>a pilot.

941
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 6>Was there were some.

942
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:14.599
<v Speaker 4>Hurdles to get passed for me to have it happened,

943
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:16.719
<v Speaker 4>and I was just very very blessed that it worked

944
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:18.880
<v Speaker 4>out the way it did. So I started out in

945
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 4>the Air Force. I was there for the Air Force

946
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.760
<v Speaker 4>plus six years. I was sixteen with the Coast Guard.

947
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:26.719
<v Speaker 4>That Coast Guard time, I spent a great deal of

948
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:32.000
<v Speaker 4>it on joint assignment with the Navy, so I was

949
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:36.800
<v Speaker 4>very very interesting career. When I retired, I very rapidly

950
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:41.079
<v Speaker 4>went into working as a contractor in flying capacity places

951
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:46.920
<v Speaker 4>like North Macedonia, going up into Kosovo, down in South America,

952
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.760
<v Speaker 4>and also in the Mid East for Iraq, for OIF

953
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 4>and oef SO, and along there opportunities came to do

954
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:04.039
<v Speaker 4>to fly an explane, which was extremely exciting and surprisingly

955
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:07.079
<v Speaker 4>not the best paying job, but it was a great

956
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:11.440
<v Speaker 4>experience to do and been very very fortunate to do that.

957
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:13.039
<v Speaker 6>Still fly, not nearly as.

958
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Much as I wish and want. The current project'm on,

959
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm not flying nearly as much, but I still keep

960
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 4>my hand in. Now, before you go, Chris, I just

961
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 4>wanted to throw in a couple of things you talk

962
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 4>about Popeye Operation Popeye. I had a professor in college who,

963
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:32.280
<v Speaker 4>when he was a young physics student, worked on part

964
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:36.760
<v Speaker 4>of the weather programs that they were working during Vietnam,

965
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:41.239
<v Speaker 4>and the expression popeye when you're flying means that you're

966
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.320
<v Speaker 4>flying in the plane in and out of cloud tops.

967
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:45.679
<v Speaker 4>That's where that expression comes from. That's where the name

968
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 4>for popeye comes from, at least in part.

969
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 6>That's the reason why they did interesting.

970
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's very interesting. So what's book camp like? You

971
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:59.760
<v Speaker 1>get there on your first day, what did you expect? Like?

972
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I had curious what was that experience like? Do you

973
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:03.840
<v Speaker 1>remember I.

974
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:07.880
<v Speaker 4>Was in an officer training program when I was in college,

975
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:11.519
<v Speaker 4>so my boot camp, I think, was pretty relaxed. They

976
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:14.559
<v Speaker 4>sent us up to an Air Force base that's now

977
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:17.559
<v Speaker 4>closed in upstate, New York, and we had a four

978
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:23.039
<v Speaker 4>week encampment during the college years. Once a week I

979
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:26.320
<v Speaker 4>had a classes that were just dedicated to military science subjects,

980
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:30.360
<v Speaker 4>and then on the weekends we did our drilling, you know,

981
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:35.480
<v Speaker 4>marching parade stuff. And when I went to Plattsburgh Air

982
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:39.119
<v Speaker 4>Force Base, we had our encampment there, which was probably

983
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:41.159
<v Speaker 4>the closest to a boot camp, you know, getting you

984
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:43.800
<v Speaker 4>up early, keeping you up, you know. One of the

985
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.880
<v Speaker 4>most humors and probably fun things was you knew a

986
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:51.000
<v Speaker 4>lot of things to do, meaning you had to set

987
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:54.039
<v Speaker 4>your room up a certain way, so your your bed

988
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:56.639
<v Speaker 4>had to be made a certain way, your socks and

989
00:55:56.719 --> 00:55:59.079
<v Speaker 4>your clothing had to be in drawers a certain way.

990
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:02.760
<v Speaker 4>You had to have everything on your hangers a proper

991
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.000
<v Speaker 4>distance apart. So everybody kind of knew this, and you

992
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:06.840
<v Speaker 4>would put pencil marks and stuff like that.

993
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 6>Many of us would.

994
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Have clothes that we would never use, so that we

995
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:14.679
<v Speaker 4>always had our display clothes perfect for the inspections because

996
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:16.920
<v Speaker 4>they could come in every day and there was serious

997
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:21.159
<v Speaker 4>inspections and light inspections, and really the idea of that

998
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:25.159
<v Speaker 4>is to get you thinking cohesively as a team, but

999
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:27.199
<v Speaker 4>also to look at details.

1000
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.920
<v Speaker 6>So I was pretty excited. First inspection, I did really well.

1001
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:32.159
<v Speaker 4>I got very few demerits, so it looked like I

1002
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 4>wasn't going to get stuck with extra duties that were unpleasant,

1003
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.800
<v Speaker 4>and I didn't touch anything because everything was good. Right.

1004
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:41.800
<v Speaker 4>So the next inspection I get like a dozen and

1005
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:45.760
<v Speaker 4>a half, and I was dumb enough to go to

1006
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:49.199
<v Speaker 4>my tack officer and say, how can that be? He goes, well,

1007
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 4>you did really good on the first one, but I

1008
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.599
<v Speaker 4>went in and undid all the buttons on your shirts

1009
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:55.599
<v Speaker 4>that were hanging in the closet, all the stuff I

1010
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.880
<v Speaker 4>pulled your pockets out of your pants, And what he

1011
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:01.559
<v Speaker 4>was teaching me was that, yeah, you want to be

1012
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:04.360
<v Speaker 4>an aviator. So yeah, you check the plane on Monday

1013
00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:06.599
<v Speaker 4>and you're not going to check it again until Friday

1014
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.960
<v Speaker 4>or the following week. Could something have changed, because you know,

1015
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 4>it was the attention to detail there and there's no

1016
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:15.480
<v Speaker 4>easy way out of it. And that's once you kind

1017
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:18.800
<v Speaker 4>of understand what that game and it really is, it's

1018
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:20.880
<v Speaker 4>a game that you're doing. Then you start to you know,

1019
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:23.440
<v Speaker 4>figure out, Okay, how do I survive? How do I

1020
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.760
<v Speaker 4>prevail in it? And then what am I trying to

1021
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.760
<v Speaker 4>be taught? And that's you know, at the early ages,

1022
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:34.480
<v Speaker 4>in my early twenties, that probably wasn't as readily appreciated.

1023
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:34.360
<v Speaker 3>As it is.

1024
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.519
<v Speaker 4>But you know, boot camps for are enlisted folks are

1025
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.679
<v Speaker 4>much more structured, much tougher than I think in general.

1026
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.519
<v Speaker 4>Probably on equivalent is the folks that go to the

1027
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:47.719
<v Speaker 4>military academies. They definitely they play a full court game.

1028
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:52.079
<v Speaker 4>Their first year is very very demanding in that aspect,

1029
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.039
<v Speaker 4>and their entry into the academies is very demanding as well.

1030
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 4>But again it's the it's the coding of trying to

1031
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:02.159
<v Speaker 4>get you to think cohesively team wise, your team is

1032
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:03.960
<v Speaker 4>more important than yourself.

1033
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:04.400
<v Speaker 3>That kind of stuff.

1034
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:06.199
<v Speaker 6>So I really thrived in it.

1035
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:10.079
<v Speaker 4>I liked it, and I was very, very fortunate, and

1036
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:15.679
<v Speaker 4>I think every American taxpayer because I really appreciated the

1037
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:17.599
<v Speaker 4>opportunity to go and do the kind of stuff that

1038
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<v Speaker 4>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fascinating and interesting, which leads us into one

1040
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of the top articles we have of the day. And

1041
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.039
<v Speaker 1>we found it interesting is that they're basically just admitting

1042
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:33.639
<v Speaker 1>that there's like a whole x files segment of the

1043
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:38.039
<v Speaker 1>FBI essentially to go and they investigate UAPs amongst everything else.

1044
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:42.880
<v Speaker 1>You're part of a great program on KGRA called UAP Crossfire.

1045
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we could talk about how you got interested in

1046
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 1>the UAP phenomenon, amongst other things. I know we had

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00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a couple different ideas of why we wanted to bring

1048
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:54.119
<v Speaker 1>you on, including what happened and it was in upstate

1049
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:56.880
<v Speaker 1>New York with the helicopter and airplane and there's all

1050
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:59.320
<v Speaker 1>these conspiracies around it. But I think this is a

1051
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>good starting spot, you know, so here it is for

1052
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:06.719
<v Speaker 1>anyone that's just joining us, right now there is an

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00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:10.239
<v Speaker 1>article out there. Excuse me, let me hear I pulled

1054
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 1>up the wrong one. Here. There's an article out there

1055
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:18.239
<v Speaker 1>about Donald Trump and DOGE, which is a Department of

1056
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Government Efficiency wanting to shut down or potentially shut down

1057
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:26.519
<v Speaker 1>a secretive FBI group probing UFOs and they're worried that

1058
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:28.760
<v Speaker 1>it's going to get purged. First of all, I didn't

1059
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:31.239
<v Speaker 1>know that the FBI had their own little fox molder

1060
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.559
<v Speaker 1>and you know Dana Scully. But doesn't surprise me, And

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00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised if some of the stories that

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00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>came on TV shows like The X Files, those ideas

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00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:45.760
<v Speaker 1>came from potential real government operations, as quite often it

1064
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:48.480
<v Speaker 1>seems to be the case that there's an influence there

1065
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:52.360
<v Speaker 1>when these great TV programs are created. But it's interesting

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00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:54.559
<v Speaker 1>to me that the government actually now admits that the

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00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:56.559
<v Speaker 1>FBA has a group that probes UFOs.

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00:59:57.719 --> 00:59:58.639
<v Speaker 6>No surprise to me.

1069
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.679
<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't surprise me if it's not efficient, if it's not

1070
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:07.960
<v Speaker 4>really getting results or what's happening with it. Unfortunately, with

1071
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.559
<v Speaker 4>a lot of these programs that are not in public purview,

1072
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.760
<v Speaker 4>money gets sent to and then money goes someplace else, and

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01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:18.400
<v Speaker 4>that is probably the number one issue that you're going

1074
01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:23.440
<v Speaker 4>to see probably parade in the press and multimedia over

1075
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:27.679
<v Speaker 4>the next couple of months, because we just have kind

1076
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:31.239
<v Speaker 4>of lost control of it. We've lost control of who

1077
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:35.360
<v Speaker 4>is telling whom what they're doing. And I am all

1078
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:41.280
<v Speaker 4>about the secrecy and the intelligence protections that are required

1079
01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:43.679
<v Speaker 4>to do the kinds of missions that we need to

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01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:47.199
<v Speaker 4>do in our military. I'm not I would never divulge

1081
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 4>anything that I knew unless I thought it was unlawful

1082
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:54.960
<v Speaker 4>because people lives hang in the balance of what we're doing.

1083
01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:58.119
<v Speaker 4>We have bad things that are happening all over the world,

1084
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:00.679
<v Speaker 4>and we tend to try to have our folks way

1085
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:02.280
<v Speaker 4>way out on the end of the point the stick

1086
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:04.920
<v Speaker 4>to try to protect us. But when you see something

1087
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.800
<v Speaker 4>like this come up, a bunch of things come up

1088
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:11.320
<v Speaker 4>up on it, partially intel in my background as a

1089
01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:13.719
<v Speaker 4>collateral duty. So one of the things I always ask

1090
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:17.719
<v Speaker 4>is the source of this? You know, how do they

1091
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 4>they bring this up? Who's talked about it? It's interesting

1092
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:25.760
<v Speaker 4>with this president. Almost any headline generates something that he'll

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01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:31.880
<v Speaker 4>put on some x Twitter X file nope and pun

1094
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:34.480
<v Speaker 4>and tendants of the X file, or he'll put it

1095
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:38.960
<v Speaker 4>in Truth Central or something like that. I've often said that,

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01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:42.199
<v Speaker 4>out of all the presidents we've had, on his first administration,

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01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:45.000
<v Speaker 4>I thought this one. I thought President Trump would probably

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01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:48.039
<v Speaker 4>be the most likely to open stuff up.

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01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.000
<v Speaker 6>As opposed to others, because he's not an insider.

1100
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:53.119
<v Speaker 4>He's not playing any of the games that's on there,

1101
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:56.119
<v Speaker 4>and you could run the whole gamut of it. If

1102
01:01:56.119 --> 01:02:01.199
<v Speaker 4>we have alien technology, extraterrestrial alien technology reverse engineering it,

1103
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:04.320
<v Speaker 4>that means everybody on the planet's playing that game. And

1104
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:06.519
<v Speaker 4>if you don't have it, other countries are going to

1105
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:11.800
<v Speaker 4>try to penetrate your your intelligence capabilities as best they

1106
01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:18.039
<v Speaker 4>can to get that technology, especially company companies and governments

1107
01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:21.159
<v Speaker 4>that are able to successfully reverse engineer it. If you

1108
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:25.599
<v Speaker 4>look at the PRC, they are the masters, absolute masters

1109
01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:31.880
<v Speaker 4>of grabbing disgruntal employees loose intelligence networks that I'm secure

1110
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:36.280
<v Speaker 4>and producing very quickly. After you have spent billions to

1111
01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:38.400
<v Speaker 4>produce something, they're throwing it out.

1112
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:39.679
<v Speaker 6>And of course, under their.

1113
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:43.639
<v Speaker 4>Particular system, they don't really give a crap about their people.

1114
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:45.639
<v Speaker 4>So if they decide they're going to build one hundred

1115
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:48.039
<v Speaker 4>of these, they're going to build one hundred, and if

1116
01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:50.639
<v Speaker 4>ninety work they don't care about the crews that are

1117
01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:54.199
<v Speaker 4>killed in ten aircraft because they have lots of people

1118
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:57.039
<v Speaker 4>and it's the collective and all that other happy horseshit

1119
01:02:57.119 --> 01:03:01.480
<v Speaker 4>that goes along with that. So you can see that

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01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:03.840
<v Speaker 4>if you have I would not be surprised that almost

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01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:08.199
<v Speaker 4>every agency would have some component looking at all these things.

1122
01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:12.639
<v Speaker 4>And the reason being is every agency competes for budget

1123
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:16.800
<v Speaker 4>every agency competes for positioning, so you want to at

1124
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:20.639
<v Speaker 4>least know what other people are doing. So if the

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01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Defense Intelligence Agency is really deep into uap UFO recovery

1126
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:29.159
<v Speaker 4>and studies, there's going to be at least other intelligence

1127
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:31.280
<v Speaker 4>agencies that are going to try to at least keep

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01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.559
<v Speaker 4>track of what they're doing so that they don't fall

1129
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:36.639
<v Speaker 4>too far behind. And if they can get a breakthrough

1130
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:38.880
<v Speaker 4>and they can first one into the White House to say,

1131
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 4>look what we found. That's protection, that's budgetary growth, whatever.

1132
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:49.400
<v Speaker 4>So doesn't surprise me. Second thing when these articles come out,

1133
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:53.880
<v Speaker 4>one of the most celebrated and hottest topics out there

1134
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:58.519
<v Speaker 4>is crowdsourcing for intelligence. Crowdsourcing means three guys like us

1135
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:02.119
<v Speaker 4>with six or seven other people without security clearances are

1136
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 4>sitting in front of a computer and we're just scanning

1137
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:07.239
<v Speaker 4>to see where people are going. What are you looking

1138
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:10.320
<v Speaker 4>at it? X? How many people looked at that article

1139
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:13.559
<v Speaker 4>that you just put up? And then what's the chatter afterwards?

1140
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 4>Who did they send it to? Are they sending it

1141
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:19.000
<v Speaker 4>to their Facebook? Who on their Facebook.

1142
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:19.679
<v Speaker 6>Is looking at it?

1143
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:23.840
<v Speaker 4>It's open source intelligence, crowdsourcing, and it's amazing and it's

1144
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:27.159
<v Speaker 4>obvious that many things that are being put into our

1145
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:30.920
<v Speaker 4>media streams are to track where it's going. A few

1146
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:34.079
<v Speaker 4>years back, the Pope was scheduled to come to the

1147
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 4>United States according to sources. Of course, in this media

1148
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:41.440
<v Speaker 4>world we live in, somebody says it, no one checks it,

1149
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:44.280
<v Speaker 4>and fourteen people repeat it, and then they'll also embellish

1150
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:48.400
<v Speaker 4>it a little bit going down the line. But if

1151
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:52.360
<v Speaker 4>you are interested to figure out who's interested if the

1152
01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:56.280
<v Speaker 4>Pope did arrive, i e. People that would maybe another

1153
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:01.639
<v Speaker 4>assassination attempt, you know, cause the Internet uproar on it.

1154
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:07.679
<v Speaker 4>This is a way to gather where the discussion on

1155
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:11.280
<v Speaker 4>the media, the new media, the social media is going.

1156
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.599
<v Speaker 4>And you have people again that do not have to

1157
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:19.239
<v Speaker 4>have big time clearances, don't have to have expensive setups.

1158
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:21.320
<v Speaker 4>They're just getting paid and they're doing what they love.

1159
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:23.400
<v Speaker 4>They love surfing the media, and they love putting at

1160
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:25.960
<v Speaker 4>reports and digging deeper, and you give them a bonus

1161
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:29.679
<v Speaker 4>if they find something really good. That's pretty good stuff.

1162
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:32.239
<v Speaker 4>I think that's a lot of things you're going to see.

1163
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:33.960
<v Speaker 4>You're going to see a lot of articles. And of

1164
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:36.000
<v Speaker 4>course there's always the spoilers out there. They're going to

1165
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:38.920
<v Speaker 4>put information out that is purposely trying to throw you

1166
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.360
<v Speaker 4>off the track. It's absolutely deception. It is absolutely decided.

1167
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:47.159
<v Speaker 4>I always use this line. While you're looking at my

1168
01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:50.360
<v Speaker 4>hand here, my other hand is in your pocket taking

1169
01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:51.119
<v Speaker 4>your wallet out of it.

1170
01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:53.559
<v Speaker 1>That's how I get Don's money.

1171
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:54.360
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:01.119
<v Speaker 1>You know it's interesting that you mentioned all these different

1173
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:04.360
<v Speaker 1>psyops with meta data madea data collection. I know that

1174
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 1>I've often talked about the meaning of the words we

1175
01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:12.320
<v Speaker 1>talk or metatron or a collection of data. Who are you?

1176
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.800
<v Speaker 1>What are you? What is meda data? It's the new oil,

1177
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it's the new gold. Why are we giving it up

1178
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:20.760
<v Speaker 1>for free? But it can be used in a lot

1179
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:24.719
<v Speaker 1>of different ways, including to project the future. AI components

1180
01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:27.800
<v Speaker 1>can take the data, understand the data, give you assistant

1181
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:31.480
<v Speaker 1>threat score, social credit scores, try to figure out, like

1182
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:34.719
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, what your interests are, who's interested in this

1183
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.039
<v Speaker 1>topic and all their ties together they have a whole

1184
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:40.719
<v Speaker 1>programs based on this. So I got to ask you,

1185
01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:44.599
<v Speaker 1>how did you get interested in this UAP phenomenon. Was

1186
01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:47.440
<v Speaker 1>it a personal experience? Was it something that you heard

1187
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:49.559
<v Speaker 1>or were you just like me? You're like well, for me,

1188
01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:52.639
<v Speaker 1>I was giving a presentation at the University of Milwaukee,

1189
01:06:52.679 --> 01:06:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin on indigenous effigy mounds which had really large skeletons

1190
01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:00.400
<v Speaker 1>of humans in them, between nine and eighteen feet tall.

1191
01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:02.880
<v Speaker 1>And I had Chase Kletchka at the back of the

1192
01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:05.159
<v Speaker 1>room and she introduced herself. You know, had to move

1193
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:07.639
<v Speaker 1>on at the time. So have you had interest in

1194
01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:11.000
<v Speaker 1>this top subject topic? I joined moufon and I became

1195
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a field investigator. That didn't last long because you know,

1196
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the organization is cool, it's neat, and you learn a

1197
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:19.559
<v Speaker 1>lot from it. It just did it. It wasn't my thing.

1198
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:21.679
<v Speaker 1>It was just was my thing, you know, but it

1199
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.519
<v Speaker 1>was very interesting and that's how I got interested in

1200
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:27.159
<v Speaker 1>this after, you know, having her book set on my shelf.

1201
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I read it after it started to get popular and

1202
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I started to go, well, it's kind of egotistical to

1203
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:35.440
<v Speaker 1>think that we're the only life out there that mathematically

1204
01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:38.360
<v Speaker 1>it's way more sound that life colonizes planet than us

1205
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:41.480
<v Speaker 1>coming from it raining on the rocks for millions and

1206
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:45.039
<v Speaker 1>billions of years. So for me, it was like, oh, okay,

1207
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:48.800
<v Speaker 1>evolution a slow period of time, you know, seven eight

1208
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:51.480
<v Speaker 1>years until I was like, what Chase is right? Like,

1209
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I had to think on it, and you know, I

1210
01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:56.760
<v Speaker 1>started talking to other people. More and more people were like, yeah,

1211
01:07:56.760 --> 01:07:59.800
<v Speaker 1>this is a very good possibility that where this planet

1212
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:02.960
<v Speaker 1>was seated, life was seated here. Not saying that's what happened,

1213
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:05.360
<v Speaker 1>just it just makes sense. So for me that was

1214
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:08.679
<v Speaker 1>my little spiel on it. But how how the hell

1215
01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:09.639
<v Speaker 1>did you get into all this?

1216
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:12.679
<v Speaker 4>So the first part I have to thank my dad.

1217
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:17.920
<v Speaker 4>My dad was crazy growing up in the Massachusetts area.

1218
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:22.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm an early sixties baby, so it was prime time,

1219
01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:25.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, right after the Mercury seven. My dad was

1220
01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:30.640
<v Speaker 4>crazy about space stuff, and then the UFO phenomena really

1221
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:35.000
<v Speaker 4>hit magazines, all the books. In fact, I wish I

1222
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:40.079
<v Speaker 4>had most of those paperback books that he had. So

1223
01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:44.359
<v Speaker 4>I grew up in a household that was interested because

1224
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.840
<v Speaker 4>of my dad in the subject. I have taken. I

1225
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:51.359
<v Speaker 4>took trips very very young aged places like Exeter where

1226
01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:53.960
<v Speaker 4>there was reports because my dad was curious to go

1227
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:56.840
<v Speaker 4>to those places and they were within very short driving

1228
01:08:56.840 --> 01:08:58.560
<v Speaker 4>distance of where we live where I grew up.

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01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:00.159
<v Speaker 6>So that's star art.

1230
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:04.880
<v Speaker 4>It Also my parents, although very i would say very

1231
01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:09.399
<v Speaker 4>conservative Catholics, for the most part, did not see this

1232
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:13.079
<v Speaker 4>as incompatible with our religious beliefs.

1233
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:16.439
<v Speaker 6>And if you really truly read.

1234
01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:18.760
<v Speaker 4>The Bible, there's a lot of the stuff that you

1235
01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:21.840
<v Speaker 4>talked about that kind of fits in the Bible. There's

1236
01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:29.000
<v Speaker 4>a lot of interesting things in there that describe UFO extraterrestrial.

1237
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:31.680
<v Speaker 6>Type entities in that so none of that.

1238
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:38.359
<v Speaker 4>Was incompatible that you know, again, critical mind to look

1239
01:09:38.399 --> 01:09:41.279
<v Speaker 4>at it, so that started it. I was always very

1240
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:44.359
<v Speaker 4>interested in it. I have been in some.

1241
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:48.600
<v Speaker 6>Of the most lonely, desolate parts of this globe.

1242
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:52.520
<v Speaker 4>If anybody should have got the free ride or the kidnapping,

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<v Speaker 4>the abduction, it should have been me because I wanted

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01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:57.760
<v Speaker 4>to go. That's why I'm not ever going to get

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01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:00.680
<v Speaker 4>the opportunity. I think that's how that works. You're not

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01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:02.840
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be somebody that did. But I was in

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01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:05.840
<v Speaker 4>places in Antarctica by myself in a helicopter, you know,

1248
01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:09.039
<v Speaker 4>bringing gear or dropping it off in these dry valleys

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01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:14.319
<v Speaker 4>in Antarctica, probably no other person had been there in millennia,

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01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:21.079
<v Speaker 4>easily and absolutely fantastic place. By the way. Nothing I've

1251
01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:24.359
<v Speaker 4>been on lonely, lonely roads all over the United States.

1252
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:27.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm always looking. I'm always keeping my eyes out. Only

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01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:31.920
<v Speaker 4>very recently, with about six years ago, I saw something

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01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:34.720
<v Speaker 4>in the sky that did not add up.

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01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:36.239
<v Speaker 6>The way the light moved.

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01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:38.800
<v Speaker 4>It appeared to be in a fixed position and then

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01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:43.279
<v Speaker 4>accelerate where I was southern New England, an area just

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01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:45.960
<v Speaker 4>south of Baby, the Hudson Valley area, which had a

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01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:49.720
<v Speaker 4>lot of famous activity. It was a very busy night

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01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:52.479
<v Speaker 4>on the roads. It wasn't a super good weather night.

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01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:56.199
<v Speaker 4>But having the aviator background, I can't help but always

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01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 4>look at an aircraft and finally wish I was flying it,

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01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:01.760
<v Speaker 4>or you know, ritically analyzed what the pilot's doing. That's

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01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:04.000
<v Speaker 4>what pilots do. They wish they were flying when they're

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01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:06.199
<v Speaker 4>not flying. And then when you're not flying, you like

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01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:08.760
<v Speaker 4>to score the other guy our gals card. That's just

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01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.920
<v Speaker 4>that's just the nature of how we operate. So that

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01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:15.000
<v Speaker 4>really is the is the background along the way, I've

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01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:18.479
<v Speaker 4>met other people that were interested. Mac maloney many years

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01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:23.159
<v Speaker 4>back started the show and he had me on. Very

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01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 4>funny was Commander X in those days until we found

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01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.840
<v Speaker 4>out some guy actually had Commander X as an actual

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01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:33.199
<v Speaker 4>trademark name and sent us a letter to cease and

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01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:35.439
<v Speaker 4>desist using Commander X. I don't know what he does

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01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:38.359
<v Speaker 4>because I've never seen any place else but that Mac

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01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:40.079
<v Speaker 4>started that, and then that's what we came up with,

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01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Command of Kob. It's a play on my on, my name,

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01:11:43.039 --> 01:11:45.800
<v Speaker 4>my call sign when I'm not wearing the sunglasses on

1279
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:47.880
<v Speaker 4>on on a podcast.

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01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:52.159
<v Speaker 6>So he wrote a lot of interesting books.

1281
01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.920
<v Speaker 4>In fact, two of his books about UFOs in Wartime

1282
01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:58.119
<v Speaker 4>I urge anybody if you haven't picked them up mccloney's

1283
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:00.880
<v Speaker 4>books UFOs in Wartime with they Don't Want You to Know,

1284
01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:06.680
<v Speaker 4>absolutely phenomenal work there. So I met like people and

1285
01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:09.399
<v Speaker 4>when I espectually got to the part of retirement, I

1286
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:12.600
<v Speaker 4>really had the opportunity to start digging into this deeper.

1287
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.359
<v Speaker 4>And it's a great network of people. That's the other thing.

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01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:18.840
<v Speaker 4>The vast majority people I've met connected with this are

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01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:24.000
<v Speaker 4>really really good souls globally YEP, there's some really strange things,

1290
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:26.960
<v Speaker 4>like certain parts of the UFO UAP community don't want

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01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:29.439
<v Speaker 4>to talk about Bigfoot, and I've got bigfoot people that

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01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:30.960
<v Speaker 4>don't want to talk about u folks.

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01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's like forgat it's like, look, I have they

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01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:36.279
<v Speaker 1>have all like the as like three hundred different types

1295
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:38.119
<v Speaker 1>of aliens in it, and I'm like, how do you

1296
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:40.479
<v Speaker 1>know what religion they are and where they're from and

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01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:44.039
<v Speaker 1>what's a galactic federation of light? And like who comes

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01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:47.199
<v Speaker 1>up with this? I'm not saying there's like listen, I'm

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01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:49.760
<v Speaker 1>not saying that like this isn't real. But I'm saying

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01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:50.560
<v Speaker 1>this isn't real.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Like, yeah, I'm with you.

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01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:52.960
<v Speaker 4>I get that.

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01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Of course.

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01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:55.239
<v Speaker 4>The other part is if you ever try to bring

1305
01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:59.560
<v Speaker 4>the paranormal aspect into this, then you really are shaking

1306
01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:02.560
<v Speaker 4>up the the gut together. There's a lot of fractures there.

1307
01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:05.600
<v Speaker 4>I tend to be a person who thinks that we

1308
01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:09.920
<v Speaker 4>are looking at intersections of all of those activities.

1309
01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:13.880
<v Speaker 6>You know, you have UFOs, you have people that have.

1310
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Fantastic paranormal type what you would almost call ghosts and

1311
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:22.960
<v Speaker 4>spirit kind of things go on. Bigfoots a peer cryptids

1312
01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.159
<v Speaker 4>appear there's a lot of things into that. I think

1313
01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:30.119
<v Speaker 4>it actually intersects more than its separate categories. I think

1314
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:35.439
<v Speaker 4>Einstein trying to come up with the unified field theory

1315
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:40.520
<v Speaker 4>probably fits our communities more than others, because you're crossing

1316
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:43.600
<v Speaker 4>into another area of physics that we just don't completely

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01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:44.279
<v Speaker 4>understand yet.

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01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:47.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's where I usually tend to lean on the

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01:13:47.279 --> 01:13:51.399
<v Speaker 3>subject because, like I've made that observation that you know,

1320
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:56.479
<v Speaker 3>it seems like a lot of these fields and a ufology, cryptozoology, paranormal, like,

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01:13:56.560 --> 01:13:59.039
<v Speaker 3>they all sort of exist within their own little bubbles,

1322
01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:02.680
<v Speaker 3>and there's a typically a lot of resistance to like

1323
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:06.479
<v Speaker 3>cross those boundaries, you know, in between them. But me

1324
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:09.479
<v Speaker 3>just my own personal philosophy, you know, I look at

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01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:11.840
<v Speaker 3>all life as being interconnected, you know, just just on

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01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:15.560
<v Speaker 3>a grand scale. You know, it's us with our environment

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01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:18.319
<v Speaker 3>and people existing within the ecosystem and all that sort

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01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:21.000
<v Speaker 3>of things. But you know, if we take that macrocosm

1329
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.840
<v Speaker 3>and sort of dial it down into a microcosm, I

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01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:27.119
<v Speaker 3>think the same obviously, in my opinion at least very

1331
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:29.119
<v Speaker 3>much applies to all these sorts of things, you know,

1332
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:33.560
<v Speaker 3>the paranormal, the UFOs, the cryptozoology, these don't exist as

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01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:36.880
<v Speaker 3>isolated incidents on some sort of spectrum. There is an

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01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:42.279
<v Speaker 3>interconnectedness with these things, because there's an interconnectedness with everything

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01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:45.319
<v Speaker 3>and with all life and with all phenomenon on some level.

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01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:49.520
<v Speaker 4>Agreed completely, and I don't think that everything that we

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01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:52.880
<v Speaker 4>do here ends when we moved, when we slipped this

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01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:53.560
<v Speaker 4>mortal coil.

1339
01:14:54.119 --> 01:14:54.399
<v Speaker 3>Correct.

1340
01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:59.359
<v Speaker 4>So, again, compatible with my religious beliefs, I wouldn't go

1341
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:01.800
<v Speaker 4>to a church that that felt that I'm not going

1342
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:06.359
<v Speaker 4>to see my departed beloved pets from my my childhood

1343
01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:09.479
<v Speaker 4>all the way and that I've seen that as a huge, uh,

1344
01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:11.600
<v Speaker 4>really aggravating people.

1345
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:14.079
<v Speaker 6>I remember, you know the first time was brought. Oh no,

1346
01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:16.119
<v Speaker 6>you know, piles.

1347
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Don't have souls, yet.

1348
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:21.800
<v Speaker 6>Their souls are purer than a lot of people that

1349
01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:24.720
<v Speaker 6>I know, So you know, I don't. I don't.

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01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:29.199
<v Speaker 4>I don't buy into My easy way to sum this

1351
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:31.680
<v Speaker 4>up is I don't buy in putting any kind of

1352
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:35.000
<v Speaker 4>limits on what God in my in my terminology, the

1353
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:38.279
<v Speaker 4>ultimate architect of what we're having. I don't have any limits,

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01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:42.760
<v Speaker 4>and that includes life on other plants. That that that's it.

1355
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:45.439
<v Speaker 4>It does not make sense that you think this is

1356
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:47.800
<v Speaker 4>the only part of it. And then The counter is, well,

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01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:49.479
<v Speaker 4>it's not in the Bible. I think if you look

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01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:51.880
<v Speaker 4>close enough, I think it is. I have to show

1359
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:54.199
<v Speaker 4>people parts that that that that indicate that.

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01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting because I don't disagree with you. I

1361
01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:58.960
<v Speaker 1>think the idea that there was a war in the

1362
01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:01.840
<v Speaker 1>heavens right that the esoteric books, the twenty two books

1363
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:03.600
<v Speaker 1>they pulled out of the Bible, a lot of them

1364
01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:05.319
<v Speaker 1>talk about, you know, the war in the heavens, the

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01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:08.359
<v Speaker 1>losing team coming here, colonizing the planet, the team that

1366
01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:10.479
<v Speaker 1>whooped its butt came here and then created man in

1367
01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:13.159
<v Speaker 1>a petri dish, much like we were talking about yesterday.

1368
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Show lab grown sperm and you get designed children. Well,

1369
01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:18.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe they designed humans, created us to meet us in

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01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:21.800
<v Speaker 1>charge of the planet. Who knows. It's interesting not only that.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking we've done such a great job. Oh yeah,

1372
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:26.960
<v Speaker 3>and you want to know something that that's really fascinating

1373
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:29.479
<v Speaker 3>about that. It's like we see that myth repeated in

1374
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:31.600
<v Speaker 3>so many various different beliefs. You know, when I when

1375
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:33.600
<v Speaker 3>I hear about the war in the heavens, obviously I

1376
01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:36.319
<v Speaker 3>think about you know what Christan has discussed multiple times.

1377
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:38.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, the things mentioned in the Bible. I also

1378
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.199
<v Speaker 3>think about because I've been a student of theology for

1379
01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:42.920
<v Speaker 3>about twenty years now, since I was a kid, have

1380
01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:45.359
<v Speaker 3>just been really interested in history and religion. I've read

1381
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:48.279
<v Speaker 3>the Mahabarata and the Boggy vot Giza. So in the

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01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:50.479
<v Speaker 3>Hindu faith, you know, we have those things as well.

1383
01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:53.479
<v Speaker 3>And even in my faith, I'm a very devout Norse pagan,

1384
01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:57.399
<v Speaker 3>and you know, we look through Norse law and whatnot.

1385
01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:00.239
<v Speaker 3>We even have mentions of, you know, the war between

1386
01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:02.600
<v Speaker 3>the Ossia the gods and the vond the gods, and

1387
01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:05.520
<v Speaker 3>at the end of that they spit into a cauldron

1388
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:09.319
<v Speaker 3>to sort of, you know, symbolize their union. And you know,

1389
01:17:09.359 --> 01:17:11.840
<v Speaker 3>when the gods spit into this cauldron, it creates a

1390
01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:15.439
<v Speaker 3>man named Cavassier, which is, you know, supposedly the wisest

1391
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:18.640
<v Speaker 3>human to have ever lived. So you know, it's all this,

1392
01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:22.520
<v Speaker 3>All these religions have this very symbolic similar story to

1393
01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:25.880
<v Speaker 3>one another, and it's it's incredibly fascinating. In my opinion,

1394
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:28.720
<v Speaker 3>he certainly can't be a coincidence. There's there's something there

1395
01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:29.600
<v Speaker 3>that connects all of it.

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01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:30.560
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:34.680
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned that you've flown to Antarctica, I wanted

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01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to pick your mind real quick on the idea that

1399
01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:42.399
<v Speaker 1>there's megalithic structures underneath the ice there when you're there,

1400
01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:45.520
<v Speaker 1>like people are saying that there's pyramid shape forums. There

1401
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:48.119
<v Speaker 1>has to in my opinion, like there's a good chance

1402
01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:52.439
<v Speaker 1>that maybe Atlantis was Antarctica, and due to cranial shifts

1403
01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:56.560
<v Speaker 1>or other things, it's a possibility that it got frozen over.

1404
01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:59.399
<v Speaker 1>There was a great delusion at one point, like there's

1405
01:17:59.399 --> 01:18:01.920
<v Speaker 1>one hundred thirty cities at the bottom of the are

1406
01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:04.920
<v Speaker 1>civilizations at the bottom of the Mediterranean, Where did all

1407
01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the water come from? Things shifted so things changed. Antarctica

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01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:12.039
<v Speaker 1>could be Atlantis and there could be megalithic structures. What's

1409
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:14.560
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts. Do they know that there's megalithic structures at

1410
01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of Antarctica or do you think.

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01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:20.199
<v Speaker 4>That experience that's three I made three deployments down to Antarctica.

1412
01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:24.800
<v Speaker 4>I circumnavigated the continent once. I didn't penetrate it very much,

1413
01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:27.079
<v Speaker 4>got down to the cell phold just a couple of times,

1414
01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:29.479
<v Speaker 4>and that was more of a ceremonial kind of flight.

1415
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:35.359
<v Speaker 4>So to understand Antarctica is to understand that you're talking

1416
01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:40.319
<v Speaker 4>in some places six seven, eight, nine thousand feet of

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01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:44.039
<v Speaker 4>ice you miiled up on top of the surface of

1418
01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.960
<v Speaker 4>that continental area. So that's the first thing you have

1419
01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:51.720
<v Speaker 4>to consider. The second part is if we do have

1420
01:18:51.800 --> 01:18:54.359
<v Speaker 4>structures there, and I have no proof, just like I

1421
01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:57.199
<v Speaker 4>have no proof that FEMA put camps down there and

1422
01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:02.079
<v Speaker 4>other activities that have all been attributed to it, just

1423
01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:05.359
<v Speaker 4>never experienced, never met anybody who whispered it.

1424
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:08.479
<v Speaker 6>I have endless funny stories.

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01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:12.399
<v Speaker 4>Of Antarctica to go from the experience of just being

1426
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:14.479
<v Speaker 4>with people, but nothing in this realm.

1427
01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:17.600
<v Speaker 6>But it is easy to believe.

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01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:20.800
<v Speaker 4>With shifting weather patterns because climate change is a thing.

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01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:23.760
<v Speaker 4>I just don't believe that man is having the effect

1430
01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:26.279
<v Speaker 4>that's being put up out.

1431
01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:28.039
<v Speaker 6>But the climate is in constant change.

1432
01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:32.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean medieval times, places like England and northern Europe

1433
01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:35.239
<v Speaker 4>had the temperatures of what you were looking for when

1434
01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:38.039
<v Speaker 4>you were in Florida, when you were in Miami, that

1435
01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:44.319
<v Speaker 4>was the going temperatures thing. So I didn't see anything.

1436
01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:47.920
<v Speaker 4>But I think two things are happening. Weather changes will

1437
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:53.199
<v Speaker 4>allow us to see more of Antarctica. But realized that

1438
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:55.760
<v Speaker 4>with that kind of level of ice is probably a

1439
01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:57.600
<v Speaker 4>good chance that you're going to see things that have

1440
01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:00.600
<v Speaker 4>been somewhat crushed. But hold on for that second. I'll

1441
01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:03.319
<v Speaker 4>I'll give you one more piece of that. The other

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01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:06.920
<v Speaker 4>part is if we start to look for resources. We

1443
01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:10.680
<v Speaker 4>have developed engineering now that allows it to be somewhat

1444
01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:14.800
<v Speaker 4>practical to go for minerals, to go for activity. Now

1445
01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:18.000
<v Speaker 4>currently it's under treaty not to do that, but we

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01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:22.039
<v Speaker 4>all know that treaties don't normally last. They're not really

1447
01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:25.079
<v Speaker 4>worth the paper they're written on. It really is what's

1448
01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:29.079
<v Speaker 4>behind the tree. Reason I said on that building up

1449
01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:32.199
<v Speaker 4>of ice World War two Greenland, we've had a number

1450
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:35.720
<v Speaker 4>of airplanes that landed on the ice shelf because they

1451
01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:38.840
<v Speaker 4>ran out of fuel, got lost, mechanical problems. There's the

1452
01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:43.760
<v Speaker 4>very famous P thirty eights that landed and they found

1453
01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:48.840
<v Speaker 4>them thirty thirty five years later using ground radar. They

1454
01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:53.439
<v Speaker 4>actually tunneled down, put people down. Then they melted the

1455
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:56.600
<v Speaker 4>ice all around where the airplane was, and the planes

1456
01:20:56.680 --> 01:20:59.640
<v Speaker 4>were in such shape that they were worth taking apart

1457
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:03.920
<v Speaker 4>and bringing up the sections, the wings, the fuselages, the

1458
01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:07.039
<v Speaker 4>booms to P thirty eighth. They reassembled them and they

1459
01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:09.479
<v Speaker 4>were worth In fact, one of the airplanes that's out

1460
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:11.319
<v Speaker 4>there is called Glacier Girl. That's where she got her

1461
01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:15.279
<v Speaker 4>name because she landed on that glacier. So that should

1462
01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:19.159
<v Speaker 4>tell you that there's some possibility of recovering or finding

1463
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:23.479
<v Speaker 4>things if we get to that point. It would not

1464
01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:27.399
<v Speaker 4>surprise me in the least. We think we know. What

1465
01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:30.119
<v Speaker 4>we don't realize is that we will never appreciate what

1466
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:33.399
<v Speaker 4>we don't know. We will never sit there and go.

1467
01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:36.720
<v Speaker 4>It's sort of like the guy who says I'm an expert.

1468
01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:38.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm always worried when I get around someone who says

1469
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:41.840
<v Speaker 4>they're an expert. I prefer the really, really smart person

1470
01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:44.840
<v Speaker 4>I think as an expert that says I am still

1471
01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:48.960
<v Speaker 4>figuring stuff out, I'm still learning this stuff. That's just

1472
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:53.199
<v Speaker 4>I think the nature of the approach. So yeah, I

1473
01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:57.239
<v Speaker 4>think Antarctica has a lot of possibilities. Didn't see a thing,

1474
01:21:57.640 --> 01:21:58.600
<v Speaker 4>did not see a thing?

1475
01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:03.960
<v Speaker 3>What I find thing about Antarctica and just the possibility of,

1476
01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:08.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, what we could potentially discover there. So when

1477
01:22:08.199 --> 01:22:12.840
<v Speaker 3>we look at strange historical anomalies like the Peri Raus map,

1478
01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:20.359
<v Speaker 3>for example, which most cartographers and experts quote unquote have

1479
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:23.079
<v Speaker 3>essentially come to a consensus that the perie Raus map

1480
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:27.960
<v Speaker 3>was constructed by copying much much older source maps that

1481
01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:31.439
<v Speaker 3>go back, you know, even longer, which for people that

1482
01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:35.000
<v Speaker 3>don't know, the peri Raus map was a map made

1483
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:38.000
<v Speaker 3>by a Turkish admiral named period Rais and about the

1484
01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:42.319
<v Speaker 3>fifteen hundreds. And the interesting thing about this map, at

1485
01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:45.079
<v Speaker 3>least with regard to this conversation, is that it shows

1486
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Antarctica without any ice on it, and at the time,

1487
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:54.800
<v Speaker 3>allegedly Antarctica hadn't been discovered yet. It is the official

1488
01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:58.239
<v Speaker 3>narratives that Antarctica was discovered in the eighteen hundreds, sometime

1489
01:22:58.279 --> 01:23:00.960
<v Speaker 3>about in the eighteen hundreds. What I've find interesting about

1490
01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:04.840
<v Speaker 3>that is that it shows its Antarctica as having these

1491
01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:08.239
<v Speaker 3>very lush jungles, and we know now from some of

1492
01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:12.279
<v Speaker 3>the latest scientific research, at about fifteen million years ago

1493
01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:16.399
<v Speaker 3>Antarctica was in fact a very lush rainforest. And so

1494
01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:20.520
<v Speaker 3>it's just these little anomalies that I find really interesting that,

1495
01:23:22.399 --> 01:23:28.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, lends potential credence to the idea that you know,

1496
01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:31.039
<v Speaker 3>there might be something they're worth looking into.

1497
01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:34.279
<v Speaker 4>Oh absolutely, Now a couple One interesting thing I always

1498
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:36.760
<v Speaker 4>like when I have discussion, do you understand where the

1499
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:38.399
<v Speaker 4>word Antarctica comes from.

1500
01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that it has anti in it, much like

1501
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Atlantis or Ante okay, Atlantic.

1502
01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:48.319
<v Speaker 4>And that may and that that also has a possible

1503
01:23:48.359 --> 01:23:53.319
<v Speaker 4>tie in Arctica. The name for the north is based

1504
01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:58.840
<v Speaker 4>on ersa majurist, the constellation of the mother and baby bear.

1505
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:04.119
<v Speaker 4>So the Greeks named the northern regions Arctica for their

1506
01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:10.199
<v Speaker 4>words for bear, ant being not not Antarctica land not

1507
01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:13.479
<v Speaker 4>of the bear. Interesting side note, polar bears are only

1508
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:14.640
<v Speaker 4>in the northern hemisphere.

1509
01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:17.319
<v Speaker 6>No polar bears and Antarctica.

1510
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:22.439
<v Speaker 4>I always thought that was kind of an so much

1511
01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:25.399
<v Speaker 4>a coincidence that I'm not sure is a coincidence. We

1512
01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:33.439
<v Speaker 4>know that the Greeks and the Polynesians and probably a

1513
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:36.840
<v Speaker 4>couple of the others definitely had explored and been in

1514
01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:41.520
<v Speaker 4>areas much further south, and I think this is where

1515
01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:44.960
<v Speaker 4>a lot of the map information came from. I think

1516
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:48.399
<v Speaker 4>if they approached it, especially on the outer edges down

1517
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:52.319
<v Speaker 4>by South America, down by Africa, they would have seen that.

1518
01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:54.640
<v Speaker 4>And if it was the end of the period. The

1519
01:24:54.680 --> 01:24:57.640
<v Speaker 4>only thing that I don't have a really good reference

1520
01:24:57.880 --> 01:25:01.600
<v Speaker 4>is looking at the time when week started, when European

1521
01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:05.399
<v Speaker 4>man started to really arrive in Antarctica, and they were

1522
01:25:05.439 --> 01:25:07.640
<v Speaker 4>really driven there because they were whaling. That was the

1523
01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:12.000
<v Speaker 4>big activity that drove them into this area. Is that

1524
01:25:12.840 --> 01:25:18.960
<v Speaker 4>you don't find evidence of the reported far station that

1525
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:19.399
<v Speaker 4>was there.

1526
01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:20.640
<v Speaker 6>I have seen.

1527
01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:27.119
<v Speaker 4>Fossilized wood there in Antarctica. It's actually pretty easy to

1528
01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:29.359
<v Speaker 4>find if you know where to, if you go with

1529
01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:31.159
<v Speaker 4>the scientists that can show you where it's at and

1530
01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:32.680
<v Speaker 4>you pick it up and you realize, while I'm looking

1531
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:37.119
<v Speaker 4>at petrified wood, so that's not There were parts that

1532
01:25:37.159 --> 01:25:40.399
<v Speaker 4>I went with scientists where they had they were recovering

1533
01:25:41.479 --> 01:25:45.640
<v Speaker 4>meteorites that had hit and melted into the ice, and

1534
01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:47.279
<v Speaker 4>they you know, when they would get a little bit

1535
01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:49.039
<v Speaker 4>of melting, they would dig in and pull them out.

1536
01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:52.159
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely amazing. I still can't believe that they figure out

1537
01:25:52.159 --> 01:25:54.359
<v Speaker 4>how to pop one into my pocket. I was so

1538
01:25:54.520 --> 01:25:58.680
<v Speaker 4>amazed that I was looking and helping people recover meteorites

1539
01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:01.399
<v Speaker 4>that were in the ice. I I completely missed my opportunity.

1540
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:07.600
<v Speaker 4>But there is very interesting stuff around both the North

1541
01:26:07.640 --> 01:26:10.239
<v Speaker 4>and the South. But I think a lot is held

1542
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:14.439
<v Speaker 4>in Antarctica that is yet to be revealed. And because

1543
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:19.399
<v Speaker 4>of our crazy geopolitical situation, we're gonna we're gonna fight

1544
01:26:19.439 --> 01:26:22.680
<v Speaker 4>over every scrap of that as well. Now, if you're

1545
01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:27.640
<v Speaker 4>going to bring up the part about the Operation High

1546
01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:32.479
<v Speaker 4>Jump Jump, yeah, I don't think we fought a battle

1547
01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:35.239
<v Speaker 4>down there with ets. I don't think we fought a

1548
01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:38.680
<v Speaker 4>battle with Nazis that relocated down there. I just don't

1549
01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:43.119
<v Speaker 4>see anything that lends me to believe that you could

1550
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:45.359
<v Speaker 4>cover that up that well. But who knows. I could

1551
01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:48.279
<v Speaker 4>be wrong, but I didn't see anything to kind of

1552
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:48.840
<v Speaker 4>back it up.

1553
01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:52.239
<v Speaker 1>How do we lose like fifteen ships in Operation High Jump?

1554
01:26:52.319 --> 01:26:55.439
<v Speaker 1>That's what was interesting. Who knows what the real purpose

1555
01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:59.239
<v Speaker 1>was down there? Maybe you know who was the Admiral

1556
01:26:59.239 --> 01:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>byrd led that.

1557
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:02.279
<v Speaker 6>Bird, that's correct, you know, And he he had.

1558
01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Some weird things to say about the true North and

1559
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>South Pole. Whether that's accurate or not, I don't know.

1560
01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I just uh, you know, there's all these lore and legends,

1561
01:27:09.880 --> 01:27:12.319
<v Speaker 1>just like they have the leg was at the North Pole,

1562
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:15.199
<v Speaker 1>they have the yetti. You know, where do these legends

1563
01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:17.479
<v Speaker 1>come from? Do people see weird things because they're out

1564
01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>in the snowy Is it of a polar bear they

1565
01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know in the north or is it something down

1566
01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>in art? God? Do they have like any uh, let's say,

1567
01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a paranormal activity and claims that people see certain things

1568
01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>while they're down there.

1569
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:34.520
<v Speaker 4>I've never heard anything come up from Antarctica where people now,

1570
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:39.159
<v Speaker 4>obviously there has been some things about people that have perished,

1571
01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:42.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, in structures and in camps. I think that's

1572
01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:45.720
<v Speaker 4>almost a common human experience and I think there's a.

1573
01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:47.079
<v Speaker 6>Lot of validity to that.

1574
01:27:47.159 --> 01:27:49.920
<v Speaker 4>If you ever look at the ghost stories of airmen

1575
01:27:51.119 --> 01:27:54.760
<v Speaker 4>UH in Britain, in UK there are some absolutely amazing

1576
01:27:54.800 --> 01:27:58.680
<v Speaker 4>stories of airman network killed World War One, the anter

1577
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:04.399
<v Speaker 4>war years, you know, walking around being seen people walking

1578
01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:06.439
<v Speaker 4>from one building to the other at night, seeing a

1579
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:09.560
<v Speaker 4>guy and fairly old garb they're curious, they fall and

1580
01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:11.920
<v Speaker 4>he goes into a building. They follow him into the building,

1581
01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:14.560
<v Speaker 4>he's not there. Goes into a hall and he's not there.

1582
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:18.039
<v Speaker 4>So there's a lot of that, not much that I

1583
01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:20.520
<v Speaker 4>can actually put my finger on for Antarctica that you know,

1584
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:23.399
<v Speaker 4>that war that's there partially because you have a very

1585
01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:26.800
<v Speaker 4>cyclical lifestyle there. You have a small group of people

1586
01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:30.800
<v Speaker 4>that stay over our summer, which is their winter in

1587
01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:33.520
<v Speaker 4>the southern hemisphere, so you usually have a very small

1588
01:28:33.560 --> 01:28:36.279
<v Speaker 4>group and that's really there to keep the place from

1589
01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:40.319
<v Speaker 4>not burning down and making sure that you don't you know,

1590
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:43.920
<v Speaker 4>that you don't damage your infrastructure. Then in our winter,

1591
01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:47.119
<v Speaker 4>which is summer in the in the Southern hemisphere, that's

1592
01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:49.640
<v Speaker 4>when it swallows up. You have large numbers of people

1593
01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:52.840
<v Speaker 4>to get down there, you know, scientists mainly, and then

1594
01:28:52.840 --> 01:28:54.880
<v Speaker 4>you have all the support people, the people that are

1595
01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:57.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, providing all the everything from the cooking and

1596
01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:01.720
<v Speaker 4>cleaning to all the activity. These to run the sites

1597
01:29:01.760 --> 01:29:04.520
<v Speaker 4>to make them work, people that run the flights, the

1598
01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:07.920
<v Speaker 4>flights that are coming back and forth from primarily for us,

1599
01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:11.680
<v Speaker 4>from New Zealand where we have our detachments, and that's

1600
01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:15.000
<v Speaker 4>when the numbers swell. So you don't have that constant experience.

1601
01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:19.199
<v Speaker 4>You do have people that suffer from isolation. NASA studies

1602
01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:21.680
<v Speaker 4>the people down at the Sealth Pole who winter over

1603
01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:25.439
<v Speaker 4>for the Sealth Pole. They've studied them for decades because

1604
01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:29.279
<v Speaker 4>they are wandering how do you find compatible people for

1605
01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:32.079
<v Speaker 4>long term space flight? And it's a really good place

1606
01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:34.239
<v Speaker 4>for doing that because they're very, very isolated.

1607
01:29:34.359 --> 01:29:35.239
<v Speaker 6>No one can get to them.

1608
01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:38.399
<v Speaker 4>As you remember years back when the doctor that was

1609
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:42.159
<v Speaker 4>at the South Pole needed to be lifted out because

1610
01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:45.800
<v Speaker 4>of her cancer diagnosis, and they had to way to

1611
01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:48.239
<v Speaker 4>a very specific period and it was a very risky

1612
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:51.359
<v Speaker 4>mission that got her out because they just normally do

1613
01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:53.640
<v Speaker 4>not go. You're down there for a couple months with

1614
01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:54.479
<v Speaker 4>no contact.

1615
01:29:55.439 --> 01:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting only like fictional story or mytholog or folklore.

1616
01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Story I heard about in Arctica was the organism forty

1617
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:07.079
<v Speaker 1>six meters where it was like an octopus that can

1618
01:30:07.119 --> 01:30:11.199
<v Speaker 1>control people's brains underwater, which was a prominent like fictional

1619
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>story I think that was told and the urban legends

1620
01:30:14.680 --> 01:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>that come from Antarctica. That was one of them. That

1621
01:30:17.039 --> 01:30:19.239
<v Speaker 1>they drilled into the ice and they got some thirty

1622
01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>three foot long aquatic like octopus like creature that could

1623
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:25.159
<v Speaker 1>read people's minds and make them go insane.

1624
01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:27.359
<v Speaker 6>So do they know is reading his minds?

1625
01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:30.239
<v Speaker 1>How do they know? I don't know. That's interesting is

1626
01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>they said mind control, mind control is controlling people's minds

1627
01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:36.159
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. It was something of that nature. It was

1628
01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:41.359
<v Speaker 1>a cephalopod or something like that. There's some generic you know,

1629
01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:42.079
<v Speaker 1>sorry who.

1630
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Happened prehistoric findings down there that were buried in the

1631
01:30:46.680 --> 01:30:50.319
<v Speaker 4>ice that were sea creatures that are absolutely amazing. You

1632
01:30:50.359 --> 01:30:53.079
<v Speaker 4>just throw that into any search engine, you'll be amazed.

1633
01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:56.159
<v Speaker 3>And was it the first giant squid discovered an intent

1634
01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:56.840
<v Speaker 3>arctor or.

1635
01:30:56.720 --> 01:31:00.359
<v Speaker 4>I believe it was as well as the Russian that

1636
01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:03.479
<v Speaker 4>when they did their they're drilling down through the ice

1637
01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:05.640
<v Speaker 4>to get to a lake and there was a big

1638
01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:07.600
<v Speaker 4>under the ice lake.

1639
01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:09.079
<v Speaker 6>There was a lot of.

1640
01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:13.239
<v Speaker 4>Angst about that because they didn't want that water to

1641
01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:16.359
<v Speaker 4>become infected with the surface, because you're going to forever

1642
01:31:16.520 --> 01:31:20.079
<v Speaker 4>change it. But also to see the water, to sample

1643
01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:22.640
<v Speaker 4>that water and to bring that water in would tell

1644
01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:24.520
<v Speaker 4>you a lot because it's kind of been locked in

1645
01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:28.159
<v Speaker 4>time to some extent on that. The same thing with

1646
01:31:28.199 --> 01:31:29.960
<v Speaker 4>the ice coring out they do in the north, the

1647
01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:32.600
<v Speaker 4>northern the Arctic regions, they do a lot of ice

1648
01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:35.960
<v Speaker 4>coring going in Greenland up on the ice packs as well.

1649
01:31:36.159 --> 01:31:38.760
<v Speaker 4>I did a lot of support flying scientists doing that.

1650
01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:40.920
<v Speaker 4>And then they look at the course and it's absolutely amazing.

1651
01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:42.399
<v Speaker 4>It's like looking at the rings of a tree. You

1652
01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:45.479
<v Speaker 4>can see all kinds of different things are happening in

1653
01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:48.079
<v Speaker 4>the atmosphere all the way, you know, going down as

1654
01:31:48.079 --> 01:31:49.560
<v Speaker 4>far as you can get to the bottom of it,

1655
01:31:51.359 --> 01:31:53.399
<v Speaker 4>getting the bottom of the ice, not the bottom of everything.

1656
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:55.600
<v Speaker 4>I didn't mean to a double n times for there.

1657
01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's whole ecosystems in the bottom of the ice

1658
01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>that may have never been disturbed, you know, Like, so

1659
01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:04.079
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what kind of prehistoric you know, animals

1660
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:07.479
<v Speaker 1>or you know, beings could be underneath in those giant

1661
01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:11.399
<v Speaker 1>lakes and reservoir reservoirs underneath the ice and glaciers. So,

1662
01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Antarctica is the interesting subject and we don't

1663
01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>really have or had a lot of time or opportunity

1664
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:20.239
<v Speaker 1>to talk to anyone about it who's been there. So

1665
01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>it's great to talk to you because you you've actually

1666
01:32:22.600 --> 01:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>been to Antarctica. To they like, so, what's it like

1667
01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>you're flying to Antarctica? You land, It isn't like a

1668
01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:29.479
<v Speaker 1>giant resort, right, No, but.

1669
01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:32.079
<v Speaker 4>No, so people, The way I got there is I

1670
01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:35.600
<v Speaker 4>was on a ship, okay, ship the coast. Oh well,

1671
01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:37.600
<v Speaker 4>it takes us two and a half months, two months

1672
01:32:37.640 --> 01:32:39.439
<v Speaker 4>to get down there. We spent about two two and

1673
01:32:39.479 --> 01:32:42.319
<v Speaker 4>a half months breaking nights. Our whole mission on that

1674
01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:45.479
<v Speaker 4>ship is to break a channel so that you can

1675
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:48.560
<v Speaker 4>get the resupply ship in. And the resupply ship does

1676
01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:51.640
<v Speaker 4>two things. It brings in all the material for the

1677
01:32:51.680 --> 01:32:55.800
<v Speaker 4>remaining of that season, plus the winter over and enough

1678
01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:59.439
<v Speaker 4>to open up the season the following spring, and it

1679
01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:01.960
<v Speaker 4>takes all the garbage and trash out because one of

1680
01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:05.720
<v Speaker 4>the things that we try to do is not damage Antarctica,

1681
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:11.960
<v Speaker 4>so you'll recycle or pull out almost everything. Very little

1682
01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:15.880
<v Speaker 4>is left in Antarctica. They do their absolute very best

1683
01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:20.840
<v Speaker 4>not to damage it by leaving behind. Now we were

1684
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:24.800
<v Speaker 4>always acting that way. There are places where, in fact,

1685
01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:27.640
<v Speaker 4>one of the missions that my aviation unit I wasn't

1686
01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:30.359
<v Speaker 4>on it, but one of my aviation units they went

1687
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:34.000
<v Speaker 4>and picked up drums that were left over from a

1688
01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:37.840
<v Speaker 4>nineteen fifties expedition out of site that had bad materials

1689
01:33:37.920 --> 01:33:39.920
<v Speaker 4>left in them, and they didn't want to leave them

1690
01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:43.800
<v Speaker 4>there because it would have leaked and caused problems. So

1691
01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:47.960
<v Speaker 4>we've definitely are getting to become better. Steward's always room

1692
01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:51.640
<v Speaker 4>for improvement there. So the aviation detachment of my days

1693
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:54.840
<v Speaker 4>on the icebreaker. Once we got within range, we would

1694
01:33:54.840 --> 01:33:57.600
<v Speaker 4>fly off and base off at McMurdo, which is the

1695
01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:02.000
<v Speaker 4>largest of the bases, and it's the US base, and

1696
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:04.399
<v Speaker 4>we would set up shop. It's easier for us to

1697
01:34:04.439 --> 01:34:08.359
<v Speaker 4>operate off from the base and support what the ship

1698
01:34:08.399 --> 01:34:12.319
<v Speaker 4>is doing. Plus move people around in the science community

1699
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:14.800
<v Speaker 4>and get things set up. So those are the two

1700
01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:19.760
<v Speaker 4>things going on now there are at that base. There

1701
01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:24.399
<v Speaker 4>were nightclubs of sorts, there were bars, There was lots

1702
01:34:24.399 --> 01:34:29.560
<v Speaker 4>of great activities that went on. Absolutely phenomenal, beautiful stuff.

1703
01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:34.199
<v Speaker 4>You do see penguins in that center picture right above

1704
01:34:34.199 --> 01:34:34.720
<v Speaker 4>our heads.

1705
01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:37.760
<v Speaker 6>That's an emperor penguin that's there. They're the ones that

1706
01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:40.119
<v Speaker 6>are about two to three feet and some of them

1707
01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:43.640
<v Speaker 6>get so used to people they actually start to act

1708
01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:45.800
<v Speaker 6>like domestic chickens. They're not afraid of you, and they'll

1709
01:34:45.840 --> 01:34:48.920
<v Speaker 6>come up because they're looking for something, looking for a handout.

1710
01:34:49.399 --> 01:34:51.520
<v Speaker 6>And I will have anybody in your audience.

1711
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Who's really interested to look up the photojournalist noorb Wu

1712
01:34:57.399 --> 01:35:03.479
<v Speaker 4>Wu norb Wu some of the finest documentary photography work

1713
01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:08.000
<v Speaker 4>I've ever seen down there. Just phenomenal stuff. He was

1714
01:35:08.239 --> 01:35:15.159
<v Speaker 4>just absolute a great guy to work with, beautiful pictures.

1715
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:17.119
<v Speaker 6>And I'll tell you one tough guy.

1716
01:35:17.279 --> 01:35:20.800
<v Speaker 4>That picture of those whales right there, that is typical

1717
01:35:20.960 --> 01:35:23.520
<v Speaker 4>norb Right there, we would be flying along.

1718
01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:26.399
<v Speaker 6>He would see young male.

1719
01:35:26.479 --> 01:35:31.279
<v Speaker 4>Orcs, which are fairly aggressive, punkish, just like young male

1720
01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:33.960
<v Speaker 4>men can be when they're in a large group. He

1721
01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:37.640
<v Speaker 4>would signal in the helicopter, we'd land alongside, he'd run out,

1722
01:35:37.680 --> 01:35:40.119
<v Speaker 4>and he would just jump in his wetsuit with the camera,

1723
01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:42.079
<v Speaker 4>get right in the middle of them and get these

1724
01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:43.640
<v Speaker 4>unbelievable pictures and I'll figure.

1725
01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:44.439
<v Speaker 1>It, this is it.

1726
01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:46.920
<v Speaker 4>My career is over because I'm gonna I'm gonna have

1727
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:50.840
<v Speaker 4>to bring back parts of Norb. He just fed himself

1728
01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:53.640
<v Speaker 4>to these orct and he just did it. Phenomenal guy,

1729
01:35:53.880 --> 01:35:57.479
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely phenomenal guy. And maybe some other time on the show,

1730
01:35:57.479 --> 01:35:59.319
<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you a funny story that he convinced me

1731
01:35:59.359 --> 01:36:02.319
<v Speaker 4>to fly over Mount Arabas. If you go down, bring

1732
01:36:02.600 --> 01:36:05.439
<v Speaker 4>your screen down a little bit. Poppas direct. She were going,

1733
01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:09.239
<v Speaker 4>by the way, a little bit further up right there.

1734
01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:11.279
<v Speaker 4>That is what you're looking at.

1735
01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:11.680
<v Speaker 6>Right there.

1736
01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:15.399
<v Speaker 4>That is McMurdo where you're at, and that area on

1737
01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:18.119
<v Speaker 4>the top, I'm pretty sure you're looking at Mount Erebus

1738
01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:20.319
<v Speaker 4>in the background there, or it might be off to

1739
01:36:20.319 --> 01:36:25.039
<v Speaker 4>the left. That's the sometimes active volcano. And Norb wanted

1740
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:28.399
<v Speaker 4>to get pictures of it. So we climbed way up

1741
01:36:29.199 --> 01:36:32.680
<v Speaker 4>fifteen thousand feet to get over at the top and

1742
01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:35.479
<v Speaker 4>then crusted and came back down. Not supposed to fly

1743
01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:40.600
<v Speaker 4>without oxygen above ten twelve thousand feet thirty minute limit,

1744
01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:42.600
<v Speaker 4>that kind of stuff, so we screwed it up as

1745
01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:43.199
<v Speaker 4>quick as we.

1746
01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:45.119
<v Speaker 6>Could and landed.

1747
01:36:45.560 --> 01:36:48.600
<v Speaker 4>But phenomenal, phenomenal guy, phenomenal work.

1748
01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>There are there a lot of UAP sightings UFO sightings

1749
01:36:51.680 --> 01:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>over Antarctica. You would think, out of all places that

1750
01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:56.720
<v Speaker 1>have dark knight sky, that would be the place to see.

1751
01:36:56.720 --> 01:36:58.319
<v Speaker 6>Well, here's the problem.

1752
01:36:58.319 --> 01:37:00.800
<v Speaker 4>You have dark knight sky for about six months, right,

1753
01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:05.560
<v Speaker 4>and nobody's there because it's the winter and it's so hillacious,

1754
01:37:05.920 --> 01:37:10.399
<v Speaker 4>the wind is blowing, it's so difficult. Most people are

1755
01:37:10.439 --> 01:37:13.760
<v Speaker 4>not outside very much. I knew two guys that spent

1756
01:37:14.199 --> 01:37:17.479
<v Speaker 4>the winter over because they get paid a huge bonus.

1757
01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:17.520
<v Speaker 3>To do it.

1758
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.520
<v Speaker 4>And when they had two clear nights, they got on

1759
01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:24.039
<v Speaker 4>their snow machines and they drove out onto the ice

1760
01:37:24.079 --> 01:37:30.119
<v Speaker 4>pack and they described the Australia. For riellis that what

1761
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:33.960
<v Speaker 4>they experienced down there was amazing, absolutely amazing to see

1762
01:37:33.960 --> 01:37:37.039
<v Speaker 4>that kind of light show that was there, the colors

1763
01:37:37.079 --> 01:37:38.920
<v Speaker 4>and everything like. We have to get really far north

1764
01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:40.720
<v Speaker 4>in the Arctic to see the same kind of thing.

1765
01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:48.119
<v Speaker 4>So that was I think a very unique. I've never

1766
01:37:48.199 --> 01:37:52.880
<v Speaker 4>heard anybody talk about UFO activity that was seen there,

1767
01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:56.720
<v Speaker 4>and you will notice it when you throw it off.

1768
01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:00.239
<v Speaker 4>It's very very obvious when you see an aircraft because

1769
01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:03.079
<v Speaker 4>it's very quiet. You know, you know when the helicopters

1770
01:38:03.119 --> 01:38:06.159
<v Speaker 4>are flying, can hear them. You can tell when our

1771
01:38:06.199 --> 01:38:08.800
<v Speaker 4>smaller airplanes that are doing support work, and when the

1772
01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:11.159
<v Speaker 4>jets are coming in and out, the large transport jets

1773
01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:13.640
<v Speaker 4>that they are coming in out. They actually land things

1774
01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:15.960
<v Speaker 4>like I think it was. The last interesting one I

1775
01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:20.520
<v Speaker 4>saw was a seven eight seven seven seven, I think

1776
01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:24.880
<v Speaker 4>a triple seven landed that was on contract Sea seventeenth land.

1777
01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:27.159
<v Speaker 4>Their CEA fives used to land there, and we have

1778
01:38:27.199 --> 01:38:30.000
<v Speaker 4>a complement of C one thirties that are based there

1779
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:34.079
<v Speaker 4>for the season and then they return up to up

1780
01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:37.399
<v Speaker 4>to New Zealand for the or all the way back

1781
01:38:37.439 --> 01:38:39.319
<v Speaker 4>up to the States for servicing before they go back

1782
01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:40.319
<v Speaker 4>down for the next season.

1783
01:38:43.039 --> 01:38:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Wild So that's interesting. The whole idea of being in

1784
01:38:47.199 --> 01:38:52.239
<v Speaker 1>South America also is very interesting. The ancient megalithic structures

1785
01:38:52.279 --> 01:38:56.079
<v Speaker 1>there always had my interest. I've always been interested in

1786
01:38:56.119 --> 01:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the ancient pyramids, and you know, the Amazon rainforests and

1787
01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:02.199
<v Speaker 1>did you spend any time in South America as well

1788
01:39:02.319 --> 01:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>or just that My.

1789
01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:08.079
<v Speaker 6>Time has mainly been in Mexico. When we.

1790
01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:12.600
<v Speaker 4>My non military time, I was working as a contractor.

1791
01:39:14.319 --> 01:39:17.079
<v Speaker 4>We had sold a helicopter to a nation down there

1792
01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:20.399
<v Speaker 4>and they were looking for instruction and how to you know,

1793
01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:24.760
<v Speaker 4>basically operate this helicopter. They wanted to emulate a similar

1794
01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:26.840
<v Speaker 4>capability that we had, so I did that for a year.

1795
01:39:27.479 --> 01:39:28.600
<v Speaker 6>I have seen some of them.

1796
01:39:28.680 --> 01:39:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Of the of the pyramids in Mexico, you know, they're

1797
01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:37.319
<v Speaker 4>very close to the coast on both west and east coast,

1798
01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:42.760
<v Speaker 4>very very to me, amazingly interesting. I've been fortunate enough

1799
01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:46.560
<v Speaker 4>to see the pyramids in Egypt as well, another amazing

1800
01:39:47.039 --> 01:39:53.159
<v Speaker 4>kind of of structure to see. And the mathematics involved

1801
01:39:53.159 --> 01:39:56.159
<v Speaker 4>in both a math undergrad guide, not that I'm very

1802
01:39:56.199 --> 01:39:59.720
<v Speaker 4>good at it, but the mathematics involved in them is amazing,

1803
01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:02.800
<v Speaker 4>as well as their orientations when you start to study

1804
01:40:03.039 --> 01:40:07.319
<v Speaker 4>and understand how they align. Astronomical alignment as well as well.

1805
01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:10.199
<v Speaker 1>They used the stars as a map, so a lot

1806
01:40:10.199 --> 01:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>of times when they built the cities, the cities were

1807
01:40:12.680 --> 01:40:16.119
<v Speaker 1>based off of constellations that were important to them. That's

1808
01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>why Washington d c aligns up with Cairo, Egypt and

1809
01:40:20.800 --> 01:40:24.039
<v Speaker 1>the pyramids there because that's how they travel. They knew

1810
01:40:24.079 --> 01:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>if they'd followed the beltline, they would find other cities

1811
01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:29.880
<v Speaker 1>at some point or land up in Egypt or DC

1812
01:40:30.119 --> 01:40:31.079
<v Speaker 1>or wherever. It was.

1813
01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:36.279
<v Speaker 4>So interesting there. I have a very interesting site not

1814
01:40:36.319 --> 01:40:39.239
<v Speaker 4>too far from where I live, run by the a

1815
01:40:39.239 --> 01:40:43.159
<v Speaker 4>family named Stone. They call it American Stonehenge Denni, and

1816
01:40:43.520 --> 01:40:47.439
<v Speaker 4>it was featured on In Search of Again, another program

1817
01:40:47.439 --> 01:40:50.399
<v Speaker 4>I used to watch with my dad late sixties. Actually

1818
01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:52.840
<v Speaker 4>that was a seventies program. Leonard need Moy was the host,

1819
01:40:53.600 --> 01:40:56.880
<v Speaker 4>and I never forget that. We watched the show and

1820
01:40:57.359 --> 01:41:03.399
<v Speaker 4>it has astrono astrological alignments, it has astronomical alignments. It

1821
01:41:03.560 --> 01:41:06.399
<v Speaker 4>had things that look like sacrifice tables. It's been a

1822
01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:10.039
<v Speaker 4>very interesting site that's come up referred to it's Those

1823
01:41:10.079 --> 01:41:12.800
<v Speaker 4>are the first two pictures there on the left. Great

1824
01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:16.359
<v Speaker 4>family that runs it, Wonderful People, has a very interesting

1825
01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:18.640
<v Speaker 4>history of people that had it. It was found during

1826
01:41:18.720 --> 01:41:22.680
<v Speaker 4>the early colonial period that was there. There has been

1827
01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:26.159
<v Speaker 4>some really sad vandalism that's occurred there over the years

1828
01:41:27.479 --> 01:41:30.119
<v Speaker 4>and changes that were done to it by different people

1829
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:33.520
<v Speaker 4>that owned it. It's a very nominal fee to go.

1830
01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:36.439
<v Speaker 4>But what's most interesting is when you go to it,

1831
01:41:36.520 --> 01:41:40.479
<v Speaker 4>you're actually going into a neighborhood in Salem, New Hampshire.

1832
01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:43.800
<v Speaker 4>You just basically are driving into a residential neighborhood and

1833
01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:46.079
<v Speaker 4>you come to this site. They have the parking lot

1834
01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:48.520
<v Speaker 4>in the front opening you up and it's very wooded

1835
01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:50.920
<v Speaker 4>and open in the back park. But you know, literally

1836
01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:54.159
<v Speaker 4>people's backyards are right up against this and they've done

1837
01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:57.199
<v Speaker 4>a lot of work to document and line it up.

1838
01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:00.239
<v Speaker 4>They've used a lot of different technologies in the last

1839
01:42:00.239 --> 01:42:02.560
<v Speaker 4>few years. There's a very good chance there is a

1840
01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:07.479
<v Speaker 4>serpentine type wall that rings the entire structure that they

1841
01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:10.159
<v Speaker 4>have found pieces of now that they think is there,

1842
01:42:10.680 --> 01:42:14.720
<v Speaker 4>which leads to who built this. It doesn't appear to

1843
01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:22.840
<v Speaker 4>be Native American construction. And there has been everything from Phoenician,

1844
01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:29.439
<v Speaker 4>Viking or is it multiple people over different cultures that

1845
01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:31.920
<v Speaker 4>have come to this site that have oh, I see

1846
01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:34.399
<v Speaker 4>what they did here and then put their marks on it.

1847
01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:37.319
<v Speaker 4>Very very interesting. I think at one point it was

1848
01:42:37.439 --> 01:42:40.520
<v Speaker 4>even documented that they used this as a place.

1849
01:42:40.399 --> 01:42:41.800
<v Speaker 6>To store food in the winter.

1850
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Colonists because those structures Native Americans in the northern part

1851
01:42:47.039 --> 01:42:49.960
<v Speaker 4>of the States would do that. You know, basically it

1852
01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:55.279
<v Speaker 4>was refrigeration. It was free refrigeration. And many anthropologists say

1853
01:42:55.279 --> 01:42:57.720
<v Speaker 4>that we learned that from wolves. Wolves, when they get

1854
01:42:57.720 --> 01:43:00.279
<v Speaker 4>to kill and they have access, if they have the building,

1855
01:43:00.279 --> 01:43:03.079
<v Speaker 4>they'll dig holes in cold ground to put the meat

1856
01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:05.359
<v Speaker 4>down there and then cover it, knowing that they have

1857
01:43:05.359 --> 01:43:07.920
<v Speaker 4>a pretty good chance that it won't go bad during it,

1858
01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:10.239
<v Speaker 4>so if things get lean, they can come back for it.

1859
01:43:10.520 --> 01:43:13.359
<v Speaker 4>And we may have learned that from them. I think

1860
01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:15.640
<v Speaker 4>the reverse of them learning it from us is probably

1861
01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:17.279
<v Speaker 4>not too probably.

1862
01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when I was at American stoneheage one of the

1863
01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:21.720
<v Speaker 1>things that came up that look very Celtic like.

1864
01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:25.399
<v Speaker 6>And that's what we have there.

1865
01:43:25.439 --> 01:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>And as you can see, there's a place where the

1866
01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>blood drains and they have the actual uh you know,

1867
01:43:31.159 --> 01:43:33.319
<v Speaker 1>the lines around it that would lead it down. It's

1868
01:43:33.359 --> 01:43:35.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of set up as a tail. But this isn't

1869
01:43:35.159 --> 01:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>light this stone here, it's got to be a ridiculous

1870
01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:41.359
<v Speaker 1>amount of weight. I'm guessing it's it's got to be

1871
01:43:41.479 --> 01:43:44.640
<v Speaker 1>over a thousand pounds. It's just heavy, just heavy, and

1872
01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>they have tons of these and it's not just like

1873
01:43:47.079 --> 01:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>by the way, it's not just this location all over

1874
01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:55.399
<v Speaker 1>the East coast they have similar stone like structures. A

1875
01:43:55.479 --> 01:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of people believe the colonize, the colonizers, they're the

1876
01:43:58.960 --> 01:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>ones that built it, but it's starting to look like

1877
01:44:01.760 --> 01:44:04.159
<v Speaker 1>more and more that maybe the Celts. There's a you know,

1878
01:44:04.199 --> 01:44:07.760
<v Speaker 1>a few thousand Celtic people, maybe the Vikings, like you mentioned.

1879
01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>But it does align with stonehenge in Europe. That's the

1880
01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:12.319
<v Speaker 1>interesting thing.

1881
01:44:12.439 --> 01:44:13.359
<v Speaker 6>Yep, it surely does.

1882
01:44:13.520 --> 01:44:16.560
<v Speaker 4>And if you now look at there's a I'm sure

1883
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:19.359
<v Speaker 4>if you look long enough, you'll find the astrological areas.

1884
01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:22.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, trees have grown, the stones have cut some

1885
01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:24.560
<v Speaker 4>of those trees, so you can see it. You actually

1886
01:44:24.640 --> 01:44:27.159
<v Speaker 4>can go and see the observations of the different times

1887
01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:29.720
<v Speaker 4>of years. Obviously, the big ones are always going to

1888
01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:36.359
<v Speaker 4>be spring and autumnal solstices, that's our equinoxes, excuse me.

1889
01:44:36.399 --> 01:44:40.159
<v Speaker 4>And then the solstices and the alignments are there so

1890
01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:43.720
<v Speaker 4>very similar to activities you see in Europe, very similar.

1891
01:44:43.720 --> 01:44:47.039
<v Speaker 4>You see activities all the way through into Asia as well.

1892
01:44:47.399 --> 01:44:49.319
<v Speaker 4>But this tends to have a very to me, a

1893
01:44:49.399 --> 01:44:53.760
<v Speaker 4>very strong European or Mediterranean into Europe culture kind of

1894
01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:57.560
<v Speaker 4>background to it, and it just doesn't conveniently fit into anything.

1895
01:44:57.600 --> 01:44:59.800
<v Speaker 4>And of course we've people have mucked around with it

1896
01:44:59.800 --> 01:45:01.640
<v Speaker 4>and to just throw it off a little bit that

1897
01:45:01.720 --> 01:45:06.119
<v Speaker 4>it's not an easy detectable. But you have all along

1898
01:45:06.159 --> 01:45:07.880
<v Speaker 4>the New England coast all the way going up to

1899
01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:13.279
<v Speaker 4>the Maritimes of Canada, countless Viking, countless Celtic. We even

1900
01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:17.640
<v Speaker 4>have very good evidence that we in western mass that

1901
01:45:17.720 --> 01:45:20.640
<v Speaker 4>we have the burial of a templar or a descendant

1902
01:45:20.640 --> 01:45:24.840
<v Speaker 4>of a templar that where a knight is there. There's

1903
01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:29.840
<v Speaker 4>very very good evidence that that exists. Great look for

1904
01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:33.479
<v Speaker 4>anybody who's interested in doing it. And as you said,

1905
01:45:33.800 --> 01:45:36.479
<v Speaker 4>this is not unique to New England. No, We've got

1906
01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:39.640
<v Speaker 4>some of these activities all through the United States.

1907
01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Near Milwaukee, Wisconsin, we have this. We have an old

1908
01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>stone had found at the bottom of Lake Michigan and

1909
01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:48.159
<v Speaker 1>they actually had a Mastadon carved into one of these

1910
01:45:48.760 --> 01:45:51.560
<v Speaker 1>like stones and they're like, well, man never walked with

1911
01:45:51.680 --> 01:45:54.119
<v Speaker 1>mastdon So it must be a fake. It must be

1912
01:45:54.159 --> 01:45:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a fraud. This must be something.

1913
01:45:55.600 --> 01:45:57.520
<v Speaker 6>Else, right, because it could never be the other thing right.

1914
01:45:57.479 --> 01:46:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Christ Yeah, it could absolutely always have to.

1915
01:46:00.199 --> 01:46:01.119
<v Speaker 6>Be a fake or a fraud.

1916
01:46:01.560 --> 01:46:03.800
<v Speaker 4>And it reminds me that BC Comic do you remember

1917
01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:08.039
<v Speaker 4>that comic BC was The The Cavemen.

1918
01:46:08.840 --> 01:46:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Ok.

1919
01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:12.840
<v Speaker 4>I always remember one the guy had carved two skulls

1920
01:46:12.880 --> 01:46:14.439
<v Speaker 4>and he put him on top of a cliff and

1921
01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:16.079
<v Speaker 4>he put one down at the bottom of the cliff,

1922
01:46:16.079 --> 01:46:17.880
<v Speaker 4>and his neighbor comes by. He goes, what are you doing?

1923
01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:21.279
<v Speaker 4>He goes, Ah, ten thousand years from now, some scientists

1924
01:46:21.359 --> 01:46:22.840
<v Speaker 4>is going to come along and he's going to spend

1925
01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:24.319
<v Speaker 4>the rest of his life trying to figure out why

1926
01:46:24.359 --> 01:46:26.319
<v Speaker 4>there's two skulls on the top of the cliff and

1927
01:46:26.359 --> 01:46:29.560
<v Speaker 4>one down on the bottom. And it was a really

1928
01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:35.199
<v Speaker 4>fun way to poke fund that. Too many people approach

1929
01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:39.960
<v Speaker 4>this that they have a preconceived idea and then they

1930
01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:43.119
<v Speaker 4>want everything to fit that instead of really going with science.

1931
01:46:43.119 --> 01:46:48.199
<v Speaker 4>With science says you want everything to be thrown off.

1932
01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:50.720
<v Speaker 4>You want to keep finding out, You want to disprove

1933
01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:54.239
<v Speaker 4>stuff to lead you to the right discovery. We kind

1934
01:46:54.239 --> 01:46:57.119
<v Speaker 4>of get we're kind of lately have gotten it ass backwards.

1935
01:46:58.520 --> 01:47:00.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, and where did all the water come from for?

1936
01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:02.800
<v Speaker 1>And when when did they have time to build this

1937
01:47:02.920 --> 01:47:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and everything else that's on the bottom of Lake Michigan,

1938
01:47:05.439 --> 01:47:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, in between Chicago and Milwaukee here. It's interesting.

1939
01:47:08.640 --> 01:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to go down there and check

1940
01:47:10.039 --> 01:47:12.119
<v Speaker 1>it out. And the pictures that have been taken down

1941
01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:15.680
<v Speaker 1>there a little rough, but uh, they say that the

1942
01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>formation of large shows and some of them are three

1943
01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds.

1944
01:47:19.800 --> 01:47:20.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1945
01:47:20.479 --> 01:47:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's that's a pretty big and heavy stone. That's

1946
01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>over a ton, and so it's pretty interesting. It's that

1947
01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:30.239
<v Speaker 1>carving's believed to represent prehistoric animals are on it, such

1948
01:47:30.279 --> 01:47:33.199
<v Speaker 1>as a mastodon which was related to an elephant, and

1949
01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>that's right here in Lake Michigan, right by me here

1950
01:47:35.880 --> 01:47:39.119
<v Speaker 1>in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, not too far off. And of course

1951
01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:42.159
<v Speaker 1>we have the Aztalan Pyramid Mounds and all this unexplained

1952
01:47:42.439 --> 01:47:47.039
<v Speaker 1>history right here. So Commander Cobra here, we got a

1953
01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:49.560
<v Speaker 1>we got a couple questions here before we let you go.

1954
01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:51.920
<v Speaker 1>First of all, we've got to let listeners know where

1955
01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>they can find out more about you. Tell us a

1956
01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:56.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit about your show, Up Crossfire.

1957
01:47:56.479 --> 01:47:57.399
<v Speaker 6>Up Crossfire.

1958
01:47:57.560 --> 01:48:04.680
<v Speaker 4>Don Ecker, Christaprano and Dan the Padre are my co hosts.

1959
01:48:05.279 --> 01:48:09.720
<v Speaker 6>They really carry the show. I am just there causing trouble.

1960
01:48:10.880 --> 01:48:15.079
<v Speaker 4>UAP Crossfire was the creation of our producer Bill Skywatcher,

1961
01:48:15.119 --> 01:48:18.359
<v Speaker 4>that you all know real well, very very talented guy.

1962
01:48:18.640 --> 01:48:24.039
<v Speaker 4>He wanted to throw up discussion on what was going on.

1963
01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:26.000
<v Speaker 4>So you can imagine in the last few months we've

1964
01:48:26.039 --> 01:48:29.520
<v Speaker 4>been pretty busy talking about drones. Is at the end

1965
01:48:29.520 --> 01:48:32.680
<v Speaker 4>of time? Is it wore the World's Part two? Oh

1966
01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:35.239
<v Speaker 4>never mind, everything's fine. The fa knew the whole time.

1967
01:48:35.359 --> 01:48:38.840
<v Speaker 4>We had that, and then we we tear into whatever

1968
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:43.119
<v Speaker 4>has comes up with it, you know, the disclosure and part.

1969
01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:49.279
<v Speaker 4>Don Ecker a UFO magazine with his wife Vicki the

1970
01:48:49.279 --> 01:48:53.880
<v Speaker 4>the Silverback of Uifology as he got tagged many years back.

1971
01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:58.760
<v Speaker 4>Incredible story and and Don Chris A. H is a

1972
01:48:58.800 --> 01:49:05.720
<v Speaker 4>retired detective Upstate New York Muffon member director, so he

1973
01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:10.640
<v Speaker 4>brings his police kind of way of doing this into it.

1974
01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:17.119
<v Speaker 4>The Padre Dan Carlson is a minister in the Dakotas

1975
01:49:17.399 --> 01:49:20.800
<v Speaker 4>also an author, wrote a couple of books on the

1976
01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:24.760
<v Speaker 4>subject of cryptids, which is really good science fiction reading,

1977
01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:29.840
<v Speaker 4>fun stuff, and he is a recent add on. In fact,

1978
01:49:30.239 --> 01:49:32.319
<v Speaker 4>the way he came to the show was he contacted

1979
01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:35.720
<v Speaker 4>me on email. We started talking and then the next thing,

1980
01:49:35.720 --> 01:49:39.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, I travel a lot from my job, so

1981
01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:42.000
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to make sure we always had at least

1982
01:49:42.039 --> 01:49:44.920
<v Speaker 4>three people some nights we were down to two and

1983
01:49:45.159 --> 01:49:47.479
<v Speaker 4>as you guys know how it goes when you do

1984
01:49:47.520 --> 01:49:50.119
<v Speaker 4>in a live block, it's really really hard to sometimes

1985
01:49:50.199 --> 01:49:53.760
<v Speaker 4>keep everything together with the way the world is. So

1986
01:49:53.800 --> 01:49:56.680
<v Speaker 4>those are the great. They are three of the best

1987
01:49:56.680 --> 01:49:58.720
<v Speaker 4>that you will see. Like I said, I think I

1988
01:49:58.800 --> 01:50:02.279
<v Speaker 4>probably am the class when it comes to their capabilities

1989
01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:03.600
<v Speaker 4>and their backgrounds.

1990
01:50:04.119 --> 01:50:04.840
<v Speaker 6>We discussed it.

1991
01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:08.319
<v Speaker 4>Every week we try to tear into some subject. As

1992
01:50:08.359 --> 01:50:11.159
<v Speaker 4>you can imagine, the tragedy in watching the DC has

1993
01:50:11.239 --> 01:50:13.920
<v Speaker 4>been really quite dominant for the last couple of weeks.

1994
01:50:14.359 --> 01:50:16.279
<v Speaker 4>And anybody would like to reach out to me, it's

1995
01:50:16.279 --> 01:50:19.560
<v Speaker 4>in my name for the show tonight. It's Commander Krober

1996
01:50:19.720 --> 01:50:24.479
<v Speaker 4>kg R, a dB at gmail dot com. I always

1997
01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:26.960
<v Speaker 4>try to respond to the emails. Sometimes you get them

1998
01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:29.159
<v Speaker 4>from when I'm in the Mideast, so you'll see a

1999
01:50:29.159 --> 01:50:32.520
<v Speaker 4>strange time stamp to your local time when I write

2000
01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:35.039
<v Speaker 4>it back to you. But I'm glad to try to

2001
01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:39.239
<v Speaker 4>answer it. And I criticism is as much as compliment,

2002
01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:42.279
<v Speaker 4>and I've had some really great ideas from the audience

2003
01:50:42.359 --> 01:50:44.279
<v Speaker 4>over the years, and I love connecting them up with

2004
01:50:44.359 --> 01:50:48.279
<v Speaker 4>other shows. Obviously a big fan of Yours of Yours,

2005
01:50:48.319 --> 01:50:51.880
<v Speaker 4>Chris and I look forward to hopefully coming on with

2006
01:50:51.880 --> 01:50:53.119
<v Speaker 4>you again. Is a real privileged thing.

2007
01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks, no problem. We're always glad to have you

2008
01:50:55.960 --> 01:50:58.479
<v Speaker 1>and we're always growing. And it's like one of the

2009
01:50:58.479 --> 01:51:00.039
<v Speaker 1>things we haven't done a whole lot here is I

2010
01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:02.920
<v Speaker 1>have had a lot of our fellow talk radio show

2011
01:51:02.960 --> 01:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>hosts that are on KYGR on this broadcast. I know,

2012
01:51:05.640 --> 01:51:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I've had a chance to spend time with Clyde Lewis

2013
01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:11.039
<v Speaker 1>from Ground zero and absolutely one.

2014
01:51:10.960 --> 01:51:13.199
<v Speaker 6>Of my favorite people on the planet.

2015
01:51:13.359 --> 01:51:16.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's really included. You two included, but Clyde. Clyde

2016
01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:18.720
<v Speaker 4>spends a lot of time with me in the car.

2017
01:51:18.760 --> 01:51:19.880
<v Speaker 4>He just doesn't realize it.

2018
01:51:20.079 --> 01:51:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Clyde is awesome. You know John B. Wells, I've

2019
01:51:23.159 --> 01:51:25.760
<v Speaker 1>met him, but I have we haven't had a lot

2020
01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:28.199
<v Speaker 1>of the like Mark D'Antonio and I are like bros,

2021
01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:30.199
<v Speaker 1>Like whenever we go to these I couldn't.

2022
01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:32.640
<v Speaker 4>I would never have guessed that, never in a million

2023
01:51:32.680 --> 01:51:34.520
<v Speaker 4>years when I have guessed that you two would have

2024
01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:35.800
<v Speaker 4>the bro title going.

2025
01:51:35.720 --> 01:51:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, he actually did my uh double windsor ties

2026
01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:40.760
<v Speaker 1>for me whatever. I'm like, I can't do a double

2027
01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:43.319
<v Speaker 1>windsor and he's like, I got you and you'd make it,

2028
01:51:43.640 --> 01:51:45.199
<v Speaker 1>you'd take it off, and he'd give it to me,

2029
01:51:45.960 --> 01:51:48.760
<v Speaker 1>like before a presentation or whatever it would be, because

2030
01:51:49.279 --> 01:51:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I do a presentation a lot of it on William Cooper,

2031
01:51:51.960 --> 01:51:54.600
<v Speaker 1>because I filed a FOY and got three hundred pages

2032
01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:58.279
<v Speaker 1>back on the murder of William Cooper, amongst other things,

2033
01:51:58.359 --> 01:52:01.359
<v Speaker 1>including his indictment of m J which was riled with

2034
01:52:01.439 --> 01:52:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the government, which is interesting because that's under top secret

2035
01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>or under a listing of some kind of security clearance.

2036
01:52:07.399 --> 01:52:09.439
<v Speaker 1>And I happened to get my hands on it because

2037
01:52:09.479 --> 01:52:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I filed a FOYA and somebody who was close to

2038
01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Cooper sent me the MJ twelve documents, which was interesting.

2039
01:52:16.239 --> 01:52:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know a lot about it.

2040
01:52:18.319 --> 01:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I just know that I sent it to some people

2041
01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:21.880
<v Speaker 1>with clearance and they said if they looked at it,

2042
01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:24.159
<v Speaker 1>they could lose their clearance, So I don't know, you

2043
01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:26.319
<v Speaker 1>know whatever that means they looked at it and then

2044
01:52:26.319 --> 01:52:28.199
<v Speaker 1>they go up, or they didn't look at it all.

2045
01:52:28.319 --> 01:52:30.479
<v Speaker 4>I'll throw it out to you, gentlemen. Maybe you've seen it,

2046
01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:33.960
<v Speaker 4>maybe you have not. To your audience. On Amazon, there

2047
01:52:34.039 --> 01:52:38.119
<v Speaker 4>is the Ipcress File, which is the famous movie that

2048
01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:42.399
<v Speaker 4>was out in the sixties. There's a modern version of it.

2049
01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:45.680
<v Speaker 4>The modern version I usually am pretty much down when

2050
01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:50.079
<v Speaker 4>anybody redoes it. Absolutely worth your time, because anybody in

2051
01:52:50.119 --> 01:52:54.520
<v Speaker 4>this audience that knows anything about MG twelve will understand

2052
01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:59.159
<v Speaker 4>some of the lacing that is behind that adaption of

2053
01:52:59.199 --> 01:53:00.039
<v Speaker 4>that story. O.

2054
01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot of misinformation, intentionally propaganda arms. You know,

2055
01:53:04.039 --> 01:53:06.479
<v Speaker 1>they have all these different projects. And you know, what's

2056
01:53:06.520 --> 01:53:08.720
<v Speaker 1>really interesting about the MG twelve document that I was

2057
01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:11.359
<v Speaker 1>given is how much of it became true. And I've

2058
01:53:11.359 --> 01:53:13.479
<v Speaker 1>gone over that and it's interesting in the show. I

2059
01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:16.560
<v Speaker 1>haven't published it anywhere, but I think I might sometime

2060
01:53:16.680 --> 01:53:18.960
<v Speaker 1>soon because nobody else has. You can't find it anywhere else,

2061
01:53:19.640 --> 01:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sitting on a copy of it or two.

2062
01:53:21.439 --> 01:53:24.960
<v Speaker 1>So that being said, Commander Cobra, I appreciate you. Where

2063
01:53:24.960 --> 01:53:27.319
<v Speaker 1>can people find you and listen to you on the radio?

2064
01:53:27.760 --> 01:53:29.319
<v Speaker 1>What time is your show at.

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01:53:29.439 --> 01:53:34.640
<v Speaker 4>We're on Thursday evenings Live zero correction eight pm to

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01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:37.760
<v Speaker 4>ten pm Eastern Standard time twenty hundred to twenty two

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01:53:37.840 --> 01:53:41.520
<v Speaker 4>hundred for those military types that don't understand Mickey's big

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<v Speaker 4>hand and little hand business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll be back very much a privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow, Drew Arnold will be joining us. He's done music

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<v Speaker 1>videos for Beyonce and Kanye West, amongst other things. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got a great data program where he's crew tens thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of points of data where donors' money come from and

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<v Speaker 1>terror cell organizations that are funding different political campaigns right

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<v Speaker 1>here in the United States. We're gonna Drew Arnold on

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<v Speaker 1>the broadcast tomorrow. Should be a good show. Today's guest

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<v Speaker 1>is come Commander Cobra. Make sure you check out his program.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay blessed, Underground Chournealists, Thank you ens. The Destroyer is

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<v Speaker 2>Our days into your forecast into the future, M
