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<v Speaker 1>Dogmannencounters dot com forward slash podcast. Tonight's guest was featured

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<v Speaker 1>on episode six forty four and six forty six. Now

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<v Speaker 1>one episode six forty four, he came on and told

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<v Speaker 1>us about a werewolf encounter he had when he was

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<v Speaker 1>eight years old staying at his aunt's house. But on

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<v Speaker 1>six forty four nor six forty six did he tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about his dog meanning counters. Well, that's what he

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<v Speaker 1>has come back to do tonight, to tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>those dog mean experiences. But having said that, Tonight's guest

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<v Speaker 1>is Phil cotton Ball. Phil, thanks so much for coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, no, boys, thanks very much for having us. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you. But having us back on it's great bandback

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<v Speaker 2>head to be honest with, really is you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>a great channel, and you know it's you give people

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<v Speaker 2>a platform and I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're welcome. Thanks for the good words too, But

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<v Speaker 1>now I've just been looking forward to having you back on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know I'm not the only one so like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, thanks again so much. Now having said that, Phil,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a lot of dog me and experiences to

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<v Speaker 1>share tonight. The listeners have been clamoring to hear about

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<v Speaker 1>these dog men experiences you've had. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that, I've got a question for you. I like

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<v Speaker 1>to walk in the woods. This morning, I went for

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<v Speaker 1>a nice long walk again in the woods, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering over here the tics are so bad this year.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm dying to know is, I know ticks are

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<v Speaker 1>horrible obviously in the States here, they're horrible in Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>How are they over there? Are they atrocious over there

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<v Speaker 1>as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Not for me personally, no, because going by you know

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<v Speaker 2>what the other half, the missus said that I've got

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<v Speaker 2>acid for blood. No, what tends to get me is

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<v Speaker 2>the mozzies. The mosquitoes tend to get me. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got bites on my legs because you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>hot weather, which has been over here in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had like a mini heat wave and it's gone

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<v Speaker 2>up to like thirty two thirty three and really yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've been going out to shorts, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of like I just I thought, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so hot, and I went to Thetford Forest boy,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's also quite there's parts of it really got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ponds and it's quite boggy and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And yeah, it's the mozzies that got me

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you. But yeah, we do get ticks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we do get ticks. But with those, you go,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always careful with the dogs most of all. If

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<v Speaker 2>I take the dogs out, you know, I always make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that I get a tick comb and make sure

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<v Speaker 2>they also have their one, you know, their neck you

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<v Speaker 2>put that drop on, you know, I always make sure

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<v Speaker 2>they have that up to date as well. But as

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<v Speaker 2>for myself, now, I just get absolutely obliterated by mozzies.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what I find is good for that

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<v Speaker 2>is do you get these patches. And these patches you

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<v Speaker 2>put onto your clothing and they seem to put one

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<v Speaker 2>on your trousers or your skirt or shorts as I

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<v Speaker 2>wear a lot of times, and one on your t

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<v Speaker 2>shirt and it kind of like it permeates the air

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<v Speaker 2>around you and keeps a lot of the mozzies behind.

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<v Speaker 2>But to still get food out barrier and just like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just nibble away. And get me. But yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 2>it ticks. It's been really bad over there, then.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, horrendous. Every place I've checked on has been horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, no matter what the state, it's just been

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<v Speaker 1>a really really bad year for him. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>mosquitoes either, but I'll definitely take mosquito bites any day

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<v Speaker 1>over these guys. Then again, mosquitoes there's no risk of

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<v Speaker 1>them giving alpha gal or lime disease or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you can get some nasty things from mosquitoes.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the tixes here are just horrible. They really are.

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<v Speaker 1>So they might be awful over here. I'm just glad

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that at least you guys don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not for me personally, No, I mean we

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<v Speaker 2>have we have them, but yeah, for me personally, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I say, I think, you know, it's mostly the mozziest

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<v Speaker 2>I have trouble with either here, and I'm never getting

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<v Speaker 2>bit by a spider once over here. And funny enough,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just before I went over to the States,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was flying over and I was over here

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<v Speaker 2>and I was in Norfolk, and we broke down in

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<v Speaker 2>a work van and I had my arm out the windows.

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<v Speaker 2>I had my arm out the window and I was

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<v Speaker 2>like waiting for the recovery to come. And I felt

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<v Speaker 2>something sharp on my finger and my little finger and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think anything of it. And I thought something. It

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<v Speaker 2>was something sharp, maybe a fawn or something. I don't know. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it got to the States by the time I got

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<v Speaker 2>over to the States we're in about a day or two.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy did it blow up my little finger. Honestly, it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like a club foot it was. It was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was massive. Wow, absolutely yeah. And I went to the

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<v Speaker 2>local hospital over there and where I was, and I

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<v Speaker 2>said it was a spider by and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>it must have been in the UK. So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a real particularly nasty spider. But we do have

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<v Speaker 2>black widows over here, or what they call they're like

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<v Speaker 2>cloned black widows. You know, they're not the actual black widows,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're like that. But I believe they buy it

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And half spiders as well, halves spiders. I've

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<v Speaker 2>known a harvest spider by a guy that I know.

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<v Speaker 2>He's passed away now, but and he told me that

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<v Speaker 2>one was on his shoulder. He went to flick it

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<v Speaker 2>off and it hissed him. I was like, you're kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>He said't seriously, uh huh yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to flick it off right and it hissed

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<v Speaker 2>at him. I was like, you're kidding, he said no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no. I was like, God, how big was that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a farewell size because half the spiders come into

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<v Speaker 2>your house when they're you know, they're combine harvesters are

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<v Speaker 2>taken down there. It's awesome time taking down all the

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<v Speaker 2>harvests and they all start running away and like heading

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<v Speaker 2>in for the nearest domicile where they can get protection.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and it was on his shoulder and just

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<v Speaker 2>like I was like, wow, seriously, that's crazy in it. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a strange world out there, Vick.

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<v Speaker 1>And it gets stranger every day. That's a fact. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've had a Dogman encounter that you need help dealing with,

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<v Speaker 1>please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get down to brass texts. Phil Please take your time

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<v Speaker 1>and tell us all about your dogman encounters. Now give

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<v Speaker 1>us ever last detail that comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, boys, thank you. There's a certain thing called

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<v Speaker 2>scope a cpia scope Youcpia basically means it's when you

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<v Speaker 2>can feel someone looking at you. Now in the forces,

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<v Speaker 2>just say, for instance, that you're in the junk and

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to ambush your enemy and the enemy was

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<v Speaker 2>walking past you along a path and you were hiding

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<v Speaker 2>all camouflaged up, and you were hiding in the jungles

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<v Speaker 2>and you were just feet away from them. You were

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<v Speaker 2>trained in the Army and in the services not to

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<v Speaker 2>look at them as they pass you. You're trained to

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<v Speaker 2>look down at the ground because if you were to

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<v Speaker 2>look at them, even though they don't know you're there,

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<v Speaker 2>it's at that point that they will know through scope

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<v Speaker 2>supia that you are looking at them and they will turn.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that knowing that you're being watched. It's part of

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<v Speaker 2>our six sense. Can I say that it's part of

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<v Speaker 2>our supernatural abilities that we've kind of got still, it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that can't easily be quantified, but it's something which

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<v Speaker 2>we have, and a lot of people which witness dog

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<v Speaker 2>men find this and they testify to this where they've

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<v Speaker 2>been out in woods, they've been out in the forests

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<v Speaker 2>and they feel eyes on them. I felt that I've

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<v Speaker 2>had that, and I had it most strongly. I was

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<v Speaker 2>in a wood and it was during the day. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a lovely day. I can't say that it was mysterious.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say it was foggy. I can't say it

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<v Speaker 2>was nighttime. I can't put any connotations of it being scary.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a beautiful walk with dogs, both Ruby and

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<v Speaker 2>Basil Jack Russell terriers, and we were having a lovely

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon walking along a path. We came up to a

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<v Speaker 2>tree and this tree was across the path. Now, I've

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<v Speaker 2>walked this path quite a few times, and the last

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<v Speaker 2>time I walked the path was at that point. It

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<v Speaker 2>was Sunday. This was twenty twenty three, and I used

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<v Speaker 2>to do that every Sunday, a long spark because it

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<v Speaker 2>used to go around the perimeter of this wood. It

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<v Speaker 2>was great. It's fantastic well, great for the dogs, and

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<v Speaker 2>especially good because there was a couple of spots on

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<v Speaker 2>the way that I could stop and make myself a brew,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'd stop. I'd have a burnard with mere little

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<v Speaker 2>guest cartridge tank I've made myself cup of tea. Dogs

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<v Speaker 2>would have a biscuit, just have a little rest halfway through.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was great for that nice and quiet. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to drive miles and miles miles to get

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<v Speaker 2>to it, so it's great. This one sunday, walking down

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<v Speaker 2>his path, there was a big tree. I would say

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<v Speaker 2>it was a round about. The diameter of the trunk

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<v Speaker 2>itself was a roundabout a foot, if not a foot

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<v Speaker 2>and a half. It was a big tree, too big

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<v Speaker 2>for me to just easily walk over, because of course

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<v Speaker 2>it had branches that it was a healthy tree ad

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<v Speaker 2>branches coming out of it, which made it even more

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to get by. To the side of me were brambles,

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<v Speaker 2>and to the other side, once again more brambles, tawny

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<v Speaker 2>BlackBerry bushes. And I thought, okay, right, what was the

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<v Speaker 2>best best way I can get through this is to

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<v Speaker 2>grab hold of each dog at a time and get

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<v Speaker 2>them over the tree over the other side. At that

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<v Speaker 2>point of trying to bend down to get the dogs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like trying to pick up a spaghetti with a

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<v Speaker 2>wooden spoon. My dogs were going in circles. I looked

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<v Speaker 2>back and I could see why they were going in circles,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had that feeling instantaneously that was being washed.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I saw two figures, not one, but two, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were quite thin. Their legs were I saw their

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<v Speaker 2>legs and they were digit grade. They were dog shaped

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<v Speaker 2>like a hook to them. That's the first thing I noticed.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were going in a zig zag fashion, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were going across the path about one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty yards behind me, just running from one side of

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<v Speaker 2>the path to the other side into the forest and

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<v Speaker 2>back out again and then back across. My dog's Bazil

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, was just going crazy with it. What I

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<v Speaker 2>did do is I hooked them on quick And the

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<v Speaker 2>to be hooked up on the lead. They didn't venture

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<v Speaker 2>be dog men, and they were young. I had the

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that they were young. I didn't see the eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>I did see the muzzles, and they were long muzzles.

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<v Speaker 2>Their body structure was thin. They weren't heavy set. They

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<v Speaker 2>were almost like lamaciated versions of dog men. Over here,

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<v Speaker 2>we've had instances of what they call wood boogers, and

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<v Speaker 2>wood burgogers are they're a type of forest dwelling creature

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<v Speaker 2>which is typically very thin, very quick, very agile, and

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<v Speaker 2>they go back way back into history in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>These weren't wood boogers because wood boogers have more of

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<v Speaker 2>a flat human like face. These didn't. These had muzzles,

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<v Speaker 2>both of them. But as the movement they had quick

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<v Speaker 2>they moved their legs almost like they were taking five

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'd tell you what it looked like to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes when you see people and they've got if they've

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<v Speaker 2>in the Paralympics, and they've got those springy, springy running

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<v Speaker 2>shoes on, if you like, boards attached to their attached

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<v Speaker 2>to their legs, it was almost like seeing those The

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<v Speaker 2>bounce they had and the stride they had, it was

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenal to see. But I felt with that, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to get the dogs away. Now. In the

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<v Speaker 2>past I've spoken about dog men and I've spoken that

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<v Speaker 2>they won't harm people because they want to, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>in their nature too, and I stand by that. But

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<v Speaker 2>they are instinctual. They do act on instinct, and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't particularly like dogs. They really don't like cats, that's

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<v Speaker 2>taken as a given. But they will talkture a cat,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't like dogs at all. So it was imperative.

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<v Speaker 2>And my thing at that time was to get the

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<v Speaker 2>dogs out and get the dogs to safety. My dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>So the only the only way I could do it

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<v Speaker 2>because I had two of them, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>too broad a tree to try, and and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really want to put my back to these creatures. There

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<v Speaker 2>was zigzagging across the path because if they can move

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<v Speaker 2>that quickly, if I turned my back, in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they'd be on top of me in low

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<v Speaker 2>time at all. I wanted to keep my eyes on them.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to turn my back to them. So

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<v Speaker 2>I picked up Basil and I went through the brush.

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<v Speaker 2>I went through the BlackBerry fawns. I just strode through

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<v Speaker 2>them and just sucked it up. Yeah you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I just sucked up the fawns and went

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<v Speaker 2>through and then I got Basil on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>And.

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<v Speaker 2>Then went leaned back, got hold of Ruby, picked her

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<v Speaker 2>up while still holding the lead on Basil, and done

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<v Speaker 2>the same. So I was I was straddling the bushes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we made our very sharp exit. But the

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<v Speaker 2>dogs all the while were just trying to circle me.

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<v Speaker 2>My dogs, but they didn't want to go back down

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<v Speaker 2>that path. They didn't look, they didn't pull to go

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<v Speaker 2>back down that path. If anything, they pulled in the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite direction. They didn't want to go back down. These

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<v Speaker 2>dog men. To say they were quick as an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>understatement to see them bounding across the path, but the

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<v Speaker 2>movement they had was astonishing, and they would crisscross like

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<v Speaker 2>an a zig zag, which was most strange. If anyone's

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<v Speaker 2>had moments in the woods where they thought they'd been seen,

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<v Speaker 2>had eyes on them, they will know they will recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that feeling. And that was the feeling I had as

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<v Speaker 2>we came up to that fallen tree. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that tree was down by accident. I think that tree

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<v Speaker 2>was down with intention. My advice if you do come

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<v Speaker 2>across a tree that is in your way along a path,

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<v Speaker 2>especially a path trodden by people, path that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>then keep an eye on your back, keep an eye

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<v Speaker 2>behind you, keep an eye to your side, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you've got dogs with me, because it could very well

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<v Speaker 2>be intentional. And I don't think it's for you. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I don't think it was for me particularly,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think that instinctually it's yeah, for the dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what that that occasion was for. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was quite That was quite a scary scary time

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<v Speaker 2>because when you're out and it's just yourself and two

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<v Speaker 2>dogs that you love, you know, they're like my children.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to get them to safety, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the fighting part that you know, because you just

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<v Speaker 2>have got these things which you know will do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you know to your dogs. You just don't know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just to get them to safety. So, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a very scary, scary, scary episode that I had.

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<v Speaker 2>In the same word, if I could just mention this

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<v Speaker 2>other other time, I had a black old shook or

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<v Speaker 2>black shook. Now, if you've been out in the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I've heard many people talk talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>where they've been out and they've had a silence, and

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<v Speaker 2>that silence is it's almost like walking into a bubble.

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<v Speaker 2>Of silence, where the whole forest goes just the fly quiet,

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<v Speaker 2>and it raises that hackles. It's odd the oddest thing

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<v Speaker 2>now in this wood, same wood, but I was over

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<v Speaker 2>the other so a big wood. I was over the

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<v Speaker 2>other side. It's in Essex in the UK. It's quite

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<v Speaker 2>well known locally this place. I'm not going to give

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<v Speaker 2>the name out of it. The name of it out

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<v Speaker 2>untell you why because you find a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>that are their intention is less than honorable, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them. It's a beautiful wood. It's hasn't got

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<v Speaker 2>things which are even though it's close by to a town,

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<v Speaker 2>it hasn't got the their that goes part and parcel

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of woods that are close to towns,

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<v Speaker 2>like beer cans and food wrappers and people scrawling on

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<v Speaker 2>trees and just rubbish everywhere and stuff like that. Is

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<v Speaker 2>quite untouched. It's like almost like I've forgotten with this place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very lovely. In the UK, there's a long history

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<v Speaker 2>of what we call the black Dog or black shook.

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<v Speaker 2>Other names for it are old scarf, old rugman, old shep.

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<v Speaker 2>The hateful thing shop comes from the Anglo Saxon scooker,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning devil, and even in its appearance in a it

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<v Speaker 2>lives up to its name. Some people call it pad

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<v Speaker 2>foot and it's a harbinger of Some people that have

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<v Speaker 2>witnessed it mentioned say that it brings bad luck. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an omen of that was the best way of saying it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an omen of fatality without saying the D word.

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<v Speaker 2>Other people say it's a warning. It's often seen in

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<v Speaker 2>burial mounds, is often seen in cemeteries. It's typically the

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<v Speaker 2>size of a small horse, full grown horse, but a

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<v Speaker 2>small horse. It's it's very sizable for a hound, typically

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<v Speaker 2>red eyes, typically quadrupedal only. There's been instances in the

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<v Speaker 2>UK of it, very famous instances in Bliveboro in a

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<v Speaker 2>church during a thunderstorm, rushing down and unliving a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of parishioners in fifteen thirty seven, I believe are probably

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<v Speaker 2>wrong now, but it's fifteen thirty seven or thirty three,

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<v Speaker 2>and also the same night of a thunderstorm, it traveled

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<v Speaker 2>many miles to another church in Bungi in Suffolk and

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<v Speaker 2>did the same thing, and craw marks can still be

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<v Speaker 2>seen to this very day. To what has that got

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<v Speaker 2>to do with my account? Well, I was walking once

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<v Speaker 2>again with Booby and Basil. We were out and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden that just went quiet. And the strangest

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<v Speaker 2>part of it was, it's close to a town. There

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<v Speaker 2>is traffic noise. It's not out miles and miles and

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<v Speaker 2>miles where I had to walk two and a half

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<v Speaker 2>miles to get out, in the middle of the wilderness

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<v Speaker 2>where there's nothing at all. There is background noise. Close

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<v Speaker 2>by is a road, a busy road, so it's not

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<v Speaker 2>without sound. There's always that background hum of the traffic.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a town with after all, we stepped in

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean stepped into a bubble of silence. Traffic

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<v Speaker 2>noise ceased instantly. Ruby Basil stopped. Luckily on both all

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<v Speaker 2>of these accounts, I'm telling you I caught on video.

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<v Speaker 2>I then looked across to see what the dogs were

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<v Speaker 2>intently looking at, and they were looking into the forest

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<v Speaker 2>or the woodside. They were looking deep into the wood.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see anything at first. It was the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>it was bright, it wasn't foggy, it was clear, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I saw it sitting behind partially partially exposed, behind

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<v Speaker 2>the tree. There was this large black hound pointy Alsatian

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<v Speaker 2>type is but it wasn't no alsatian. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>deepest black, partially obscured by this tree where it was looking.

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<v Speaker 2>It was watching silent and still, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>my dogs, myself and this shock just watching each other

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<v Speaker 2>in this silence. It didn't move, We didn't move. And

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, I looked down and I

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<v Speaker 2>said to Ruby, come on, because she was whimpering, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>we've gotta go, Come and go. Let's go. The moment

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<v Speaker 2>I looked up again, the truck was gone and the

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<v Speaker 2>sound was back. I looked over at the tree where

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<v Speaker 2>it was hit gun. At that instant, as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>we look back that that sound, just the hum of

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<v Speaker 2>the traffic in a distance came back. Everything came alive.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that a lot of times when people have

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<v Speaker 2>these instances when they walk into a bubble, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's of silence. It's something that is created, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's it's there for no other reason. I think

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<v Speaker 2>then it's a byproduct of these creatures, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>so many people experience it. And it's one hundred percent true, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent true. These woods have a long history.

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<v Speaker 2>They're also woods which I won't be too specific, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think people get the general idea if I tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that although they're beautiful woods, although they're they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're very close to a town in Essex, there

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<v Speaker 2>are also woods with a darker history to them where

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<v Speaker 2>people have gone and they've passed away, if you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, they've gone and who no fault of

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<v Speaker 2>anyone else, these people have passed over in those woods.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can guess what I mean. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>well known for that happening, not frequently, but enough enough,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's happened in relatively recent within the last ten

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<v Speaker 2>years as the last one. But it's something which has

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<v Speaker 2>happened which is an oddity. Not quite sure why, but

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<v Speaker 2>whether that has any bearing on what happens then what

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<v Speaker 2>I've witnessed there. Maybe there's also been a lot of sigels,

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<v Speaker 2>which are sometimes when you're out of the woods, you

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<v Speaker 2>will see a like I look for structures. I've spoken

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<v Speaker 2>about this before, tep structures and x'es and y's in

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<v Speaker 2>the forest. Sometimes you also get in the forest signs,

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<v Speaker 2>you will get what I called siguals. Sometimes with black

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<v Speaker 2>magic witchcraft. Sometimes they piecemeal together sticks and they will

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<v Speaker 2>make them into a form of pattern. Sometimes the patterns

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<v Speaker 2>will depict a human figure. Sometimes the patterns will form

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<v Speaker 2>a pentagram type, and you often find that in these woods.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go to the place simply because it's near

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<v Speaker 2>and it is very beautiful, and I find it extremely relaxed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a nice place. It's nearby. I don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about driving very far. The dogs enjoy it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>got ponds, it's got a place to stop and b coppa,

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<v Speaker 2>so it suits. But I'm I'm still aware. And when

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<v Speaker 2>people say you have to travel traveled two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half hours into densest forest, do you know you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to. It's surprising, it's I'm not saying this to

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00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 2>worry people, but do you know even your local woods

415
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:21.599
<v Speaker 2>dog men are surprisingly close. Surprisingly, I think they kind

416
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:25.119
<v Speaker 2>of life tends to go to life, and they kind

417
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>of are intrigued as much as we are. Believe me,

418
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.119
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to spend two and a half hours

419
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>trapesing out hiking out into the deepest forest. You might

420
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 2>just see what you want to see. You might just

421
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>see structures. You might find dog men in your local wood.

422
00:35:54.440 --> 00:36:04.239
<v Speaker 2>There's another entity which I can't explain that I saw

423
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:10.079
<v Speaker 2>it's in the same woods and this was back during

424
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I won't say it because the algorithm will kind of

425
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>kick up, you know, but it was when we were

426
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 2>on lockdown around twenty twenty, maybe a little later maybe

427
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 2>uh maybe a little later than that, but so it

428
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.639
<v Speaker 2>just finished the lockdown. Had I knowed that much. And

429
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 2>I was out enjoying the but I went to the

430
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>wood again with the dogs and I was filming and

431
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I happened to see there was two to three deer

432
00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 2>and her white tails beautiful, absolutely lovely, and I just

433
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>had the camera had was a camera phone, and I

434
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.599
<v Speaker 2>had the dogs with us, and these white tail were

435
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:15.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of just stopped as deer do, and I thought,

436
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>before they go away, I'm going to get a few

437
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:24.800
<v Speaker 2>shots of them. They're beautiful, and I zoomed in and

438
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I got a couple of shots and it was brilliant.

439
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 2>I got on one video as well, and then all

440
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:37.079
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, once again, my two fluffos, Ruby and

441
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Bats started getting really really agitated and they were circling

442
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 2>me and I put there. I had their leads on.

443
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>The reason I had their leads on at times because

444
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.559
<v Speaker 2>the deer were there. I did not want them running

445
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:59.199
<v Speaker 2>the deer, you know, So I had the leads on

446
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.719
<v Speaker 2>and they were basically tying up my tying up my legs.

447
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.679
<v Speaker 2>It would have been an absolute night if if they

448
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.239
<v Speaker 2>had something had happened and I tried to run for it,

449
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:11.800
<v Speaker 2>or had just been flat on my face. They were

450
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 2>going around me that quick. They were very agitated. And

451
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:16.639
<v Speaker 2>when dogs go around you in the circle is to

452
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:24.320
<v Speaker 2>protect protection mode. They're protecting me, and I knew that,

453
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, right, okay, I untangled myself, untangled them

454
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 2>to hook their lead off from their collars because I

455
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 2>don't have like a neck collars on them. I have

456
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>chest braces if you like. It as much better for

457
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:47.679
<v Speaker 2>dogs to stop some choking. So unhooked them and then

458
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>untangled it and then hooked them back on, and then

459
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:54.239
<v Speaker 2>got back on the video no more, no more than

460
00:38:54.800 --> 00:39:01.079
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds later to get back to the of those deer,

461
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 2>and I did. I focused in on then. I thought,

462
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.599
<v Speaker 2>with all the kerfuffle going on with the dogs and

463
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>all the noise are making, those deer hadn't moved. And

464
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 2>those deers are strangest part of them when you look

465
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>at the video. They weren't looking at me. They weren't

466
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:28.639
<v Speaker 2>looking at the dogs. That deer are not predatory deer prey.

467
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Their eyes are either side of its head, that wear

468
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 2>everything around them because they have to bolt. They have

469
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 2>to go. That's their defense. They're quick, instantaneous speed, They're gone.

470
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.599
<v Speaker 2>They weren't even looking at the dogs making a kerfuffle.

471
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 2>They weren't looking my way. What they were looking at

472
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:03.199
<v Speaker 2>as I looked over where previously there had been nothing,

473
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:12.519
<v Speaker 2>it was a golden shining Ah. It doesn't do it

474
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>justice on film, but to me, it was sparkling. It

475
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:22.639
<v Speaker 2>was like almost a golden shield. But it was a figure.

476
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Now at the time, I would have said, being Christian,

477
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 2>being religious as I am, I would have thought, oh,

478
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>as an angel looks just like an angel. I was

479
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 2>a fair distance from it. I zoomed in on the phone,

480
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 2>and it was then that I saw that its face

481
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:59.039
<v Speaker 2>wasn't flat. It seemed to have a muzzle. It seemed

482
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:05.000
<v Speaker 2>to have the dog's face, but it couldn't. It was

483
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:09.519
<v Speaker 2>no nothing I'd ever ever seen in my life before.

484
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:16.800
<v Speaker 2>This thing was golden. It was shining, reflective in the sunlight.

485
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I had a point of perspective. Thank goodness I did.

486
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.199
<v Speaker 2>The point of perspective I had was there was a

487
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 2>bush that was right by and there was a log

488
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 2>in front of it. Previously, when I was taking recording

489
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:43.599
<v Speaker 2>of the deer, that log and that bush were there.

490
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Now I untangled them. I went back to looking at

491
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the deer. Hand over to what the deer were looking at,

492
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and they were looking at this golden entity, this golden

493
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 2>dog and hybrid dog man. That's all I can put

494
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 2>it down to being a hybrid dog man, simply because

495
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 2>it looked like a dog man. I had the muzzle,

496
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:23.639
<v Speaker 2>but it was, as I say, shiny, I got out

497
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.000
<v Speaker 2>of there quick. I got out of there quick. On

498
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>that one, I gathered up the dogs as said, come,

499
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 2>we're going, and I went down at the opposite path

500
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 2>and went straight for the car, went back to the parking,

501
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 2>straight to the car in and GM there was no

502
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:46.199
<v Speaker 2>sound coming from it. And I got back home and

503
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I looked at the video and as you do, go

504
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 2>through frame by frame by frame, and yes, it's at

505
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 2>a distance. Yes, I was zoomed in. I was zoomed in,

506
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 2>but you can make out the shape and you can

507
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.679
<v Speaker 2>make out previously in that video there was nothing there,

508
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and then when I pan up again thirty seconds later,

509
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>this thing was there. What I didn't notice at that

510
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 2>time was in the forest behind this golden dog man

511
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>hybrid entity, there seemed to be a massive monster. There

512
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.360
<v Speaker 2>seemed to be a massive bigfoot coming out the forest

513
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 2>towards this golden entity as hybrid dog man. Now, I

514
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know, it's just it could be my interpretation, but

515
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:56.880
<v Speaker 2>it's up, it's there for everyone to see. That's my

516
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 2>interpretation of it. High insight being there. I know you

517
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.679
<v Speaker 2>would have thought the same. You would have had a

518
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 2>feeling that it's just not right, that's just not natural.

519
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 2>That is something that is that that you don't get

520
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 2>shining reflective surfaces like that standing up golden colored in nature.

521
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Not the sizest thing was so that I was one

522
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:48.239
<v Speaker 2>of the one of the Stranger Strangers document encounters I've

523
00:44:48.239 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 2>ever had. Now there is there is a another old

524
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>sighting that happened, and it's always intrigued me. This sighting

525
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.599
<v Speaker 2>so documented sighting that happened. You can read about it

526
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:20.119
<v Speaker 2>all on Google. It happened at Camberwell Cemetery and in

527
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 2>October the ninth, nineteen ninety six, the man in question

528
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.079
<v Speaker 2>was twenty six at the time and was on his

529
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>way to meet a friend who lived on Underhill Road

530
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:38.559
<v Speaker 2>in southeast London. In order to walk there, he had

531
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:44.039
<v Speaker 2>to make a long trek, heading southwest past Camberwell New

532
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Cemetery and then down the entire length of Brenchley Gardens

533
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 2>and around Camberwell Old Cemetery. He decided to cut through

534
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:57.039
<v Speaker 2>the older part of the cemetery to save twenty minutes

535
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 2>off walking time, even though it was already dark and

536
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 2>the area of walking through the cemetery at night was

537
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 2>freakishly scary, okay, he said. He normally rode his bicycle

538
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 2>to his friend's house, but their plans for that evening

539
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.920
<v Speaker 2>precluded his usual means of transport. He didn't have a flashlight,

540
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:27.360
<v Speaker 2>and a cemetery had no lighting system, so he could

541
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 2>see only a few feet ahead of him as he

542
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>made his way across the grounds. He was well into

543
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the graveyard when the movement of something

544
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 2>very large and dark caught his eye. I swear I

545
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:45.800
<v Speaker 2>saw what I thought was a dog, A big dog

546
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.639
<v Speaker 2>moved very quickly, he said. He stopped and squinted into

547
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 2>the darkness, but decided that his mind was playing tricks

548
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 2>on him and started off again. He didn't get very far.

549
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:04.400
<v Speaker 2>It was then flash My life changed forever. It was

550
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 2>so quick, I never had a chance. I thought that

551
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.760
<v Speaker 2>somebody had literally run into me and knocked me over.

552
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Something had grabbed me by my arm very tightly and

553
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.599
<v Speaker 2>smashed me into the ground. It was big, it was powerful.

554
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:25.400
<v Speaker 2>It had extremely bad breath. It smelt cold and awful.

555
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:29.760
<v Speaker 2>This thing was now bearing down on me, he said,

556
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.519
<v Speaker 2>looking directly at my face, dribbling onto me and growling.

557
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:39.800
<v Speaker 2>But it was the creature's next action that truly frightened him.

558
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 2>It began to eagerly sniff his body up and down,

559
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:48.400
<v Speaker 2>exactly as a dog would do. I was convinced I

560
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:55.559
<v Speaker 2>was going to be unlived, he said. I'm afraid to

561
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>say that, as brave as I think I might be,

562
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 2>I was not at this point. As shamefully I soiled myself.

563
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I was waiting for the bike, but that never happened.

564
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:12.639
<v Speaker 2>Just as quick as it started, it was over, and

565
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the beast was gone and sprinted off in a flash.

566
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:24.079
<v Speaker 2>It sprinted away on its hind legs only. So that

567
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:32.239
<v Speaker 2>is a famous case from Camberwell Cemetery that happened now.

568
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Camberwell Cemetery is quite famous for this. Whatever is there,

569
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:47.199
<v Speaker 2>the dog men entity that is there also terrified two

570
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:51.559
<v Speaker 2>pedestrians walking parallel to the cemetery on the hill road.

571
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.239
<v Speaker 2>One of the witnesses said, we heard a low grown

572
00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:59.119
<v Speaker 2>then a large tree in the corner. The cemetery was

573
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 2>shaking in credibly hard, as if something really powerful was

574
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 2>shaking it of all its might. It was definitely not

575
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>made by a person or an animal. The tree looked

576
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:14.639
<v Speaker 2>as if the roots were ready to be ripped out.

577
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.119
<v Speaker 2>My friend and I took to our heels and ran

578
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:23.119
<v Speaker 2>as fast as we could in different directions. We could

579
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.119
<v Speaker 2>not rationalize the sheer terrorb we both felt. We knew

580
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 2>we had to get as far away from the cemetery

581
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 2>as we possibly could. There is something very sinister there,

582
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:44.239
<v Speaker 2>she said. So I wanted to go there to have

583
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:51.119
<v Speaker 2>a little look and investigate. And the day that I chose,

584
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I was actually around that area would work And I

585
00:49:57.480 --> 00:49:59.159
<v Speaker 2>said to work, look, do you mind if I stop

586
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:02.239
<v Speaker 2>off and in the afternoon have a little look. And

587
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.159
<v Speaker 2>they said, that's fine. You've done a job. You can

588
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:08.599
<v Speaker 2>do that as fine. So that's great, thanks, And it

589
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:13.920
<v Speaker 2>then started to rain. Anyway, I went in and the

590
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:19.159
<v Speaker 2>cemetery is in two halves, like the account tells, so

591
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 2>it hasn't changed an awful lot since nineteen ninety six.

592
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 2>So you've got a new section of cemetery, which you

593
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:31.800
<v Speaker 2>can see quite quite obviously, is tended to and cared for.

594
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 2>And then you've got an old part of the cemetery

595
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:43.440
<v Speaker 2>that isn't tended to, that is overgrown that a lot

596
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:53.559
<v Speaker 2>of the gravestones are lost, partially hidden, and it's heavy

597
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 2>going going through this cemetery in Campbell and cemetery is

598
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.280
<v Speaker 2>heavy going in the old part of the cemetery so overgrown.

599
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:09.000
<v Speaker 2>So I was mooching around of my camera and having

600
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 2>a little looks seeing what I could see, and I

601
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:20.280
<v Speaker 2>had a very strange incident that happened. The first thing

602
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 2>that I found was underneath a willow. So this willow

603
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:32.360
<v Speaker 2>tree was quite mature and its branches were hanging down

604
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:36.239
<v Speaker 2>vey low. For some reason, I just had a compulsion

605
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:41.800
<v Speaker 2>on my own. I was strong compulsion to break through

606
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:44.679
<v Speaker 2>the branches to have a little look at the void

607
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:48.719
<v Speaker 2>underneath the tree, what was underneath. And I found a

608
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:55.679
<v Speaker 2>chair on his own, and the foot of the chair

609
00:51:56.199 --> 00:52:03.840
<v Speaker 2>was an old broken into peace gravestand and it was

610
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:05.920
<v Speaker 2>almost like as if something was there and it had

611
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:14.039
<v Speaker 2>been contemplating this gravestand this broken, sharded piece stone there

612
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:18.639
<v Speaker 2>and it had a certain feel to it. I had

613
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 2>that area underneath the tree just had that timeless feel,

614
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:32.360
<v Speaker 2>that feeling that I shouldn't really be I'm encroaching upon

615
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:39.800
<v Speaker 2>someone's space. And then moved on, and remember it was

616
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 2>raining muddy. I went down a couple of paths that

617
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:51.079
<v Speaker 2>were very difficult to go down. Lucky enough, I had

618
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:56.199
<v Speaker 2>my camera on all the while, and as I did,

619
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:02.519
<v Speaker 2>I reached one section of this cemetery. It's old symmetry,

620
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:14.480
<v Speaker 2>forgotten semetry. Now I'm not crazy, okay when I tell

621
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:21.079
<v Speaker 2>you that I heard two things. The first thing that

622
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I heard was a growling and it was a low, deep,

623
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.079
<v Speaker 2>you could hear it in your chest before you heard

624
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:46.639
<v Speaker 2>it in your ears growl. It was a single tone,

625
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:55.679
<v Speaker 2>but it was heavy and loud. It. If I was

626
00:53:55.719 --> 00:54:01.079
<v Speaker 2>to put the growl into words, it was stay away.

627
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 2>That's the image I had from this ground. I then

628
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 2>heard at the same time talking. That's something talking, chattering

629
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.559
<v Speaker 2>or conversation. I could not make out what it was.

630
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:27.079
<v Speaker 2>I got so excited. I was like, so because the

631
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:34.840
<v Speaker 2>camera was rolling, I had the camera rolling. I turned

632
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 2>to the camera, as most video podcasters do, I said,

633
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:51.440
<v Speaker 2>did you hear that? Then I heard the voice. Now

634
00:54:53.519 --> 00:55:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I've heard this voice before and it was familiar, and

635
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:09.119
<v Speaker 2>this voice was a low, robotic sounding voice, and a

636
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:19.079
<v Speaker 2>voice told me to go beware leave. Now I was like,

637
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I turned to the did you hear that? I knew

638
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:31.599
<v Speaker 2>in my heart hearts no one would have heard the voice.

639
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:35.280
<v Speaker 2>And this is where it gets a bit crazy. I've

640
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:42.320
<v Speaker 2>heard this voice before. I've spoken about this before. I

641
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:51.840
<v Speaker 2>believe that this voice is a dog man. I believe

642
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.440
<v Speaker 2>that this voice is coming from all the way back

643
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 2>to my first instance of seeing what you would call werewolf,

644
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and I think it opened the door as this entity

645
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 2>that we see in forests and in woods invariably does.

646
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I challenge anyone to say that after they've had a

647
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:29.639
<v Speaker 2>sighting of dog men that other stuff doesn't happen to them,

648
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:35.920
<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure it does. Every single man woman out

649
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>there that has come close or seen a dog man

650
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:45.000
<v Speaker 2>entity has had other stuff happen to them, whether it

651
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:54.360
<v Speaker 2>be powormal, whether it be of cryptids, whether it be

652
00:56:54.599 --> 00:57:01.599
<v Speaker 2>something unexplainable. That sign I think you've had would have

653
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:19.320
<v Speaker 2>opened up your spectrum, your understanding of another world. I've

654
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:27.039
<v Speaker 2>heard this voice before on quite a few occasions. I

655
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:34.239
<v Speaker 2>would say, I'm now fifty nine, I'll be sixty this year,

656
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:40.639
<v Speaker 2>and I can say, honestly, I've heard it probably five

657
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:45.199
<v Speaker 2>or six times in my life. That's not a lot,

658
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 2>that's not a lot of times. But every time it's

659
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:58.639
<v Speaker 2>always helped me. Every time, it's always warm me. Why

660
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.360
<v Speaker 2>do I think it stems or comes from a dog

661
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 2>man entity? Wow? I always have had dog men or

662
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:25.400
<v Speaker 2>affiliated with dog men places or dog men's sightings I've

663
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:30.760
<v Speaker 2>had when I've heard the voice or have been as

664
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:35.679
<v Speaker 2>in this case in Camprawell Cemetery, and I had that voice,

665
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:41.760
<v Speaker 2>had the ground, and I had that voice. When I

666
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:45.679
<v Speaker 2>got home, I could sense at the time, I could

667
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:50.920
<v Speaker 2>sense that there was something off on the area I

668
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:56.239
<v Speaker 2>was in. I got back home and I looked eagerly

669
00:58:56.280 --> 00:59:04.760
<v Speaker 2>at the video footage. That warning I got to beware

670
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:10.599
<v Speaker 2>was for a reason because on the footage you can

671
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:20.800
<v Speaker 2>see beyond the gravestone, this big quadrupedal the hound. It

672
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:31.679
<v Speaker 2>came out from behind a cemetery stone gravestone, and it

673
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:37.119
<v Speaker 2>morphed out on camera. It morphed out where you almost

674
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:41.480
<v Speaker 2>like Predator STYLI, where you can start to see the

675
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 2>foliage coming through the body of this hound, and it

676
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:53.199
<v Speaker 2>just disappeared, morphed out, and I think the voice was

677
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:59.039
<v Speaker 2>warning me of that. At the same time on film,

678
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:06.480
<v Speaker 2>there was these three orbs, white orbs that came across

679
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:11.639
<v Speaker 2>the camera. I can't account for them. They're not birds.

680
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Now I was running at that time. It was I

681
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:21.719
<v Speaker 2>think it was somewhere in the region of about thirty

682
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.679
<v Speaker 2>five frames per second, No, fifty frames per second, beg

683
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:28.559
<v Speaker 2>your pardon. I was running fifty frames per second on

684
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:31.519
<v Speaker 2>that film. So I was able to take that frame

685
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:36.519
<v Speaker 2>by frame by frame, and there were the way these

686
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:40.639
<v Speaker 2>orbs jumped in the frame. They were only on screen

687
01:00:41.239 --> 01:00:47.840
<v Speaker 2>for two frames, that's how quick they were going. And

688
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:55.880
<v Speaker 2>the frame rate was fifty frames per second. It's just nothing.

689
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.880
<v Speaker 2>No burd can go that quickly. And there was free

690
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:03.559
<v Speaker 2>these orbs, all going in the same direction, all coming

691
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:08.199
<v Speaker 2>from this hound, almost like there is a portal there.

692
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:16.599
<v Speaker 2>And now I'm going to sound crazy. I believe portals exist,

693
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:21.039
<v Speaker 2>and I believe a lot of the entities we've seen

694
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:28.559
<v Speaker 2>come through these portals. I believe that we often see

695
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:37.239
<v Speaker 2>portals but don't recognize them as being portals. We may

696
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:46.000
<v Speaker 2>see them as almost They look to most people almost

697
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:47.760
<v Speaker 2>like you know, when you look down the road and

698
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:50.360
<v Speaker 2>it's hot and you've got a shimmer coming off the road.

699
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:57.079
<v Speaker 2>You'll see a shimmer in a certain spot in a

700
01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:59.960
<v Speaker 2>wood or forest. A lot of times it will always

701
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Why is it always in a wood or forest Because

702
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:09.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a high carbon content area, it's an energetic area.

703
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:19.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a naturally energetic area. That's the reason why portals

704
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:29.000
<v Speaker 2>exist and materialize in these areas. So, yeah, that was

705
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:36.679
<v Speaker 2>That was some of the dog band sightings that I had.

706
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Now I did mention in the last show. I was

707
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.360
<v Speaker 2>going to mention about when I was twelve years old

708
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:54.119
<v Speaker 2>and I had quite a it was quite a traumatic

709
01:02:55.400 --> 01:03:02.159
<v Speaker 2>dog band sighting for me. So I had an imaginary friend. Okay,

710
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:05.679
<v Speaker 2>my imaginary friend's name was called Danny, and I had

711
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.519
<v Speaker 2>it for many, many years, and even when I got older,

712
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:14.679
<v Speaker 2>I still kind of used to talk to my imaginary friend.

713
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Danny would mostly talk in the evening. You know, growing up,

714
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I never really noticed him or even brought him into

715
01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:30.400
<v Speaker 2>any games during the day. I was busy enough for

716
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:33.920
<v Speaker 2>me during the day, but in the evening he would

717
01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:36.480
<v Speaker 2>be there as sure as the son would go down.

718
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:42.039
<v Speaker 2>It was myself that would notice him. No one else,

719
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:46.639
<v Speaker 2>not Dad, Mum, my sister. She would have been most

720
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:50.559
<v Speaker 2>aware of Danny. My sister was six years older than me.

721
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I can remember her question questioning mother growing up about

722
01:03:56.519 --> 01:04:00.599
<v Speaker 2>my conversations were bought. She must have thought was a

723
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 2>barmie brother. I'd be sitting on the edge of my

724
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:08.880
<v Speaker 2>bed in full on conversation and Dan he was there.

725
01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Danny was talking, laughing back at me on seeing the

726
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:18.719
<v Speaker 2>jabberin and laughing. My sister approached my mother one day, Mum,

727
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:24.760
<v Speaker 2>is my brother, Okay, he's doing that, talking to himself

728
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:28.920
<v Speaker 2>and laughing. Crap again. Mum always replied, it's a phase

729
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:33.519
<v Speaker 2>he's going through. Hugging her, she said, I remember you

730
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:38.639
<v Speaker 2>playing with dolls. This held no sway with my sister, unfortunately,

731
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:46.000
<v Speaker 2>but they were something Mum. She pulled away from Mum's house.

732
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:50.599
<v Speaker 2>Not thinn Air. Damn, it's just creepy. You don't have

733
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.880
<v Speaker 2>to share a room with him, Mum. Because I used

734
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:55.480
<v Speaker 2>to share a room with my I can remember my

735
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:59.679
<v Speaker 2>sister saying that we lived right by a dual carriageway

736
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:06.599
<v Speaker 2>or highway, and back in the seventies there used to

737
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:10.000
<v Speaker 2>be lead in the fuel and there used to be

738
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:13.800
<v Speaker 2>particles on mums washing on the washing line, little black,

739
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.800
<v Speaker 2>tiny little particles from the fuel from the main road.

740
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.519
<v Speaker 2>So Mum was always worried about because I had the

741
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:23.280
<v Speaker 2>bonchaitis as a kid and stuff, so she was always

742
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:26.440
<v Speaker 2>worried about me having the windows open summertime because I

743
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:29.079
<v Speaker 2>had the front bedroom looking out on the dual carriageway

744
01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:34.079
<v Speaker 2>or highway, so I'd be kind of put into the

745
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:36.960
<v Speaker 2>my sister's room, but she had the biggest bedroom because

746
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:40.480
<v Speaker 2>she was oldest, and I had a set put bed

747
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:43.679
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of her bedroom, which gave her

748
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:49.239
<v Speaker 2>great joy. She was very pleased every summer about that. So, yeah,

749
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that's what used to happen. Now. I can remember Danny,

750
01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:57.960
<v Speaker 2>my imaginary friend. I can remember him being not rude

751
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:02.559
<v Speaker 2>or nasty, but mischievous. I would suggest a game like

752
01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:06.079
<v Speaker 2>hide and seek, and he would take take that to

753
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:09.840
<v Speaker 2>another level, suggesting that a hide in the spot that

754
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:14.639
<v Speaker 2>I would never have chosen, for instance, Dad's garage, at night.

755
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:18.559
<v Speaker 2>One of the scariest places for me was Dad's garage,

756
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:23.039
<v Speaker 2>bastion of peace. Dad would say. Halfway down the garden,

757
01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:28.000
<v Speaker 2>old wooden with black paneling, two opening doors that were

758
01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:31.639
<v Speaker 2>full of splinters and dragged on the floor when you

759
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:36.519
<v Speaker 2>tried to open them. The inside was equally scary. And

760
01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Dad's garage it was a treasure trove of tools and

761
01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:43.800
<v Speaker 2>jam jars, full of nails and screws and bits of things.

762
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:48.239
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea what they were or did. But

763
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:53.639
<v Speaker 2>in the vaulted ceiling was wooden straps and either side

764
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:59.199
<v Speaker 2>resting on these or hanging off screws, saws swinging gently

765
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:04.119
<v Speaker 2>up points of garden tools. All looked menacing and threatening

766
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:09.800
<v Speaker 2>any that entered his garage at the best of times.

767
01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:13.679
<v Speaker 2>But light Danny suggested this would be the best place

768
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:17.920
<v Speaker 2>to hide. I would never be found there, found here,

769
01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:22.440
<v Speaker 2>That's what I thought. I remember. My imagination, as you

770
01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:27.599
<v Speaker 2>can gather, was pretty pretty good. I opened the door.

771
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:31.559
<v Speaker 2>It was dark, but the right hand side, on the

772
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:34.679
<v Speaker 2>wooden post in the garage, I knew there was a

773
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:38.320
<v Speaker 2>light switch, and I flicked it on. There was a

774
01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:43.119
<v Speaker 2>single bay bulb that was hanging down and in my head.

775
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of like counting down fifty forty eight

776
01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:54.719
<v Speaker 2>forty seven. The light in the garage never fully or

777
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:56.920
<v Speaker 2>wholly lit up the whole of the garage. I was

778
01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:01.800
<v Speaker 2>pockets of shadow in the corner that seemed to steal

779
01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:11.519
<v Speaker 2>more light as the darkness crawled towards me. Really, every

780
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:14.199
<v Speaker 2>time I looked at the corners they seemed to get

781
01:08:14.280 --> 01:08:19.800
<v Speaker 2>darker and darker. Still, I counted forty thirty nine thirty seven.

782
01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:23.439
<v Speaker 2>The only window in here was a three foot square

783
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:26.760
<v Speaker 2>with enough putty holding it into the frame to sink

784
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:31.159
<v Speaker 2>a battleship. The place was a mishmash of thrown out

785
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:36.239
<v Speaker 2>reclaimed materials. Really, on the whole, the light was situated

786
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:41.119
<v Speaker 2>by the small window which looked out onto the rear garden,

787
01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the lawn park, which had Mum's greenhouse on one side,

788
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:51.479
<v Speaker 2>sitting on slabs which always smelled of tomatoes and geraniums.

789
01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:56.640
<v Speaker 2>A lovely small cherry tree I planted actually with white

790
01:08:56.720 --> 01:09:04.600
<v Speaker 2>blossoms was on the right hand side, and then on

791
01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 2>left was my climbing frame, and that was one of

792
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:16.159
<v Speaker 2>my great joys. My climbing frame. Spent hours on it,

793
01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:23.159
<v Speaker 2>absolute hours. So that was me in the garage. It

794
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:28.439
<v Speaker 2>was dark. I had a light on, shadows in the corner,

795
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:38.840
<v Speaker 2>playing hide and seek with an imaginary friend Crazier twenty two,

796
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:45.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty one twenty I bobbed down and went to the

797
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:49.199
<v Speaker 2>light switch keeping glow and turned it off, then returned.

798
01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I turned the light off because I heard I actually

799
01:09:55.079 --> 01:10:00.479
<v Speaker 2>heard running. Now, I wasn't that crazy as kid to

800
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:06.439
<v Speaker 2>know that my imaginary friend was an imaginary friend. I

801
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:12.479
<v Speaker 2>heard running around the garage. Now, my sister was six

802
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:15.359
<v Speaker 2>years older than me. My sister was inside. I think

803
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:18.840
<v Speaker 2>my sister had actually gone out if I remember rightly.

804
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Definitely wasn't my sister I heard running going round the garage.

805
01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:33.239
<v Speaker 2>The reason I turned the garage light out was because

806
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I was lit up inside. And one of the scariest

807
01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:39.920
<v Speaker 2>things that can happen is at night when you're trying

808
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:43.720
<v Speaker 2>to look out of a window and all you can

809
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:47.520
<v Speaker 2>see is your own reflection, and in the head you

810
01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:50.000
<v Speaker 2>think to yourself, everyone can see me, but I can't

811
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:58.479
<v Speaker 2>see out. I then.

812
01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I heard.

813
01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:15.800
<v Speaker 2>A tapping on the window, and that tapping turned to

814
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:26.520
<v Speaker 2>a scratch. That nail was on the blackboard. Once again,

815
01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:30.560
<v Speaker 2>these things want the attention. They want witnessing because what

816
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I saw was on top of my climbing frame. There

817
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:39.680
<v Speaker 2>was a big climbing frame in the garden. Standing on

818
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:47.680
<v Speaker 2>top was a dog man red eyes not yellow, these

819
01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:53.600
<v Speaker 2>were red, and it was actually looking at me. I

820
01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:56.479
<v Speaker 2>could see it quite clearly because there was a moon

821
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:06.720
<v Speaker 2>and it was looking towards the window. And I heard

822
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:16.279
<v Speaker 2>that voice again say get out, philm deep robotic voice,

823
01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:23.640
<v Speaker 2>and I left. I got out, I got out quick.

824
01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:37.520
<v Speaker 2>It was free to one out gone and Mum. When

825
01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I got in, Mum said, you're okay, you know what?

826
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:48.840
<v Speaker 2>What's what? What? What? What's taking the jam out of

827
01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:52.760
<v Speaker 2>your donut? And I was like, Mom, there's there's something

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<v Speaker 2>on the where's Dad? It's apposed behind in a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>it's something in the garden. There's something on the climbing frame.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to explain to her, and she said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>just calm down there, so calm. When your father gets in,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get him to go down and have a look.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad never took me seriously at all. He went down

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<v Speaker 2>the garden, but he didn't expect to find anything at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the end of Danny. I never again

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<v Speaker 2>saw Denny or hurt him, and in a way, for me,

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<v Speaker 2>it was quite sad. But I think every you know,

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01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:12.000
<v Speaker 2>kid that has an imaginary friend, you know, kind of

839
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<v Speaker 2>it fades. But then he came to a full stop

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<v Speaker 2>the day I saw that document on top of the

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01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:31.319
<v Speaker 2>climbing frame. Yeah, it was. It was. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>definitely a defining moment in my life as well. It

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01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:45.000
<v Speaker 2>was just it was when they look at you, that's

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01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:55.520
<v Speaker 2>when it drills home, because you know, they recognize you.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm. And that is one of the scariest feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>Something which should not exist, could not exist, but it does.

847
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<v Speaker 2>It does exist. When that thing looks at you, it's

848
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:26.760
<v Speaker 2>it's just and at twelve years old, it never it

849
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:35.279
<v Speaker 2>never left me. Yeah, that's that's scary. That was scary.

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<v Speaker 2>That was very that that stayed with me. I don't know.

851
01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you what was running around the garage.

852
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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was this dogmententity somehow, though, do you

853
01:15:55.479 --> 01:16:02.520
<v Speaker 2>know what, in a way I wish it was I

854
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.880
<v Speaker 2>wish it could have been Danny warning me. In a way,

855
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<v Speaker 2>it would be nice to know if the imagination became real.

856
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:23.960
<v Speaker 2>But what eye witnessed was definitely real. It was definitely real. Yeah,

857
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, people honestly don't don't ah, if you if

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<v Speaker 2>you do ever hear a voice and it's a deep,

859
01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:40.640
<v Speaker 2>robotic voice coming from these things, take heed of it.

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01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:48.159
<v Speaker 2>You know. Wherever this voice is coming from. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming from a guardian. I think mine's from a

862
01:16:52.279 --> 01:16:55.520
<v Speaker 2>dog man. I think it's a guardian. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>something which is there protection. It seems be on the

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01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:10.840
<v Speaker 2>right track, it seems to be timing. It's it's cautionary advice.

865
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<v Speaker 2>Really pretty well, it's really I mean, it's spot on

866
01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:20.880
<v Speaker 2>because every time it has warn me, I've taken heed

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<v Speaker 2>of it and it's worked. There's been times in the

868
01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:35.399
<v Speaker 2>past where I nearly was unlive myself by something that

869
01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:42.880
<v Speaker 2>happened in my house. It wasn't exactly an accident, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was cautioned by that voice. Again. Yeah, what do

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01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:48.399
<v Speaker 2>you think.

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01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Vick, Well, what I'm wondering is have you ever told

873
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:55.119
<v Speaker 1>anyone about that experience who question the veracity of the

874
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:59.319
<v Speaker 1>actual dog mean encounter because you had been interacting with

875
01:17:59.399 --> 01:18:01.479
<v Speaker 1>your imagine your friend Danny.

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01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they have. There have been people that have said, well,

877
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:11.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's a fertile imagination. Obviously, I did

878
01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:21.800
<v Speaker 2>have a very good imagination. But what made what made

879
01:18:22.119 --> 01:18:29.279
<v Speaker 2>what made it different to me is you get children

880
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:35.079
<v Speaker 2>can create, and I created a scenario that was scary

881
01:18:35.319 --> 01:18:39.760
<v Speaker 2>on purpose for myself. I know that I went into

882
01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:43.640
<v Speaker 2>a place which I shouldn't be in my dad's garage

883
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:47.920
<v Speaker 2>because it was one of the in the confines of

884
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:52.239
<v Speaker 2>my house. It was one of the don't go places.

885
01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:59.000
<v Speaker 2>It was one of the scariest places. I guess I

886
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:01.960
<v Speaker 2>was bored to honest VIC and I guess going in

887
01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:07.560
<v Speaker 2>there in a way, Walt Disney knew that. You know,

888
01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:13.399
<v Speaker 2>people and children especially like to be scared. It brings

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01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:19.960
<v Speaker 2>an emotion out in people. I know what I probably

890
01:19:19.960 --> 01:19:23.159
<v Speaker 2>in retrospect what I went in there for to scare

891
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:32.199
<v Speaker 2>myself to get response. But when I turned the light

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01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:40.199
<v Speaker 2>off after I heard this running around the garage, it

893
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:44.720
<v Speaker 2>was I turned the light off regardless of how scary

894
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:51.279
<v Speaker 2>it is inside the garage, because if it was my

895
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:56.640
<v Speaker 2>imaginary friend, then my imaginary friend had taken form and

896
01:19:57.039 --> 01:20:02.199
<v Speaker 2>was running with footsteps heard of the garage, which that

897
01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:12.560
<v Speaker 2>in itself, if it's a toper a thought form, that

898
01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:17.119
<v Speaker 2>in itself, that physically running around. That's what made me

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<v Speaker 2>turn the light out in the garage, because it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I would not have made an already scary

901
01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:31.039
<v Speaker 2>place scarier by having no light at all. But there

902
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:36.560
<v Speaker 2>was something outside running, and I think because I had

903
01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:42.479
<v Speaker 2>that response it looking back, yes, I think I gave

904
01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:46.239
<v Speaker 2>it a bit more for me. I was there, I

905
01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:51.079
<v Speaker 2>felt it, I knew and I kind of that's one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew that there was something there running. I

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<v Speaker 2>heard it really quick as well. That's Gary, which wasn't small.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a standalone garage halfway down the garden, and

909
01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:06.399
<v Speaker 2>the garden was all the way around it. If you

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<v Speaker 2>like the front doors. The front doors opened up. There

911
01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:12.800
<v Speaker 2>were real old knacker doors that were really tired, the

912
01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:17.760
<v Speaker 2>splintered black, splintered wood but never got changed. And then

913
01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:20.520
<v Speaker 2>there was a little tiny driveway leading out to two

914
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:27.119
<v Speaker 2>gates which led out onto the road. So if you like,

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01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the fence of the garden ran all the way down

916
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<v Speaker 2>on the left hand side, if you like, all the

917
01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:37.119
<v Speaker 2>way down the garden, and then we had a another

918
01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:47.119
<v Speaker 2>fence the other side, and then the garden of the neighbors.

919
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Could it be in a neighbor, No, No, because they

920
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:57.880
<v Speaker 2>were they were kind of their son at that time

921
01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:02.159
<v Speaker 2>was in the army. He had gone off to join

922
01:22:02.199 --> 01:22:11.159
<v Speaker 2>the army, and his parents they were kind of what's

923
01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:14.520
<v Speaker 2>the best word for they were both they were both

924
01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:24.399
<v Speaker 2>physically not capable that way up running. So yeah, turning

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01:22:24.399 --> 01:22:27.520
<v Speaker 2>off the light of the garage, I kind of instantly

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01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:32.640
<v Speaker 2>did that because there was just something there. I heard that.

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01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Big I would have turned the light off. Also, I

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01:22:36.399 --> 01:22:39.279
<v Speaker 1>don't blame you, and it sure would have been convenient

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01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:43.359
<v Speaker 1>if it would have just been your imagination, but unfortunately

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01:22:43.399 --> 01:22:46.640
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. Well, I'll tell you what, Phil, We are

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01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:49.760
<v Speaker 1>out of time, but I've got a ton of questions

932
01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you about all these experiences you've

933
01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:54.920
<v Speaker 1>shared with this. Would you be open to coming back

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01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:56.359
<v Speaker 1>to do in A Q and A.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure. Yeah, I'd love to do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to once any any any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great, Well, you know I'd love to have you back.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what we'll do. I'll get with you to

939
01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:10.479
<v Speaker 1>schedule it and we'll take it from there. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the meantime, thanks again so much for coming back on

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01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:15.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Fi. It's great being on your show.

943
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate you having me on. Thank you, oh

944
01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:22.319
<v Speaker 2>you know you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again so much and have a great night.