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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome everybody, Good afternoon. I'm Steve Roban and you're
Speaker 1: Mike Quinn. Where I am and I on the ball
Speaker 1: today Monday. Usual question is how about them Wildcats? How
Speaker 1: about them Wildcats? I thought it was great that they
Speaker 1: held them under sixty on a positive note, not a
Speaker 1: positive note, looking on the looking on the bright side.
Speaker 1: You're my Monday guy. Monday guys. We always talk about
Speaker 1: this with you. My god. Henry's the guy I talked
Speaker 1: to in the car saying, well, you know, what the
Speaker 1: hell happened?
Speaker 4: Yes, and he's with me. I mean they just suck. Yeah,
Speaker 4: well yeah, I mean they do. They've got they certainly
Speaker 4: have issues with their defense.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, I think that the defense played really well.
Speaker 4: I think against Texas Tech, you gotta get your hats
Speaker 4: up to them. And we had some we had some
Speaker 4: high expectations and they were keeping them in games and uh,
Speaker 4: and then injuries have decimated them to the point where
Speaker 4: they are kind of ineffective.
Speaker 1: Henry, you made an observation in the car, in the
Speaker 1: back seat that was always feeding you McDonald's. Uh, you
Speaker 1: think you were surprised about one thing? What was that?
Speaker 5: That everyone steals their job today, whether that's every coach.
Speaker 6: I thought some changes had to happen.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 5: We did say it might be because they have a
Speaker 5: buye this week, so they might take some time to evaluate.
Speaker 6: But I think I don't know.
Speaker 5: To send a message, you gotta get her to someone
Speaker 5: do something just to show that you still care.
Speaker 1: What would be that message?
Speaker 6: Firing Dino Beavers?
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, he's already been demoted. He's already been.
Speaker 5: That's that's why I don't think they would do that,
Speaker 5: because he has already been demoted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's no purpose in that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Are they going to fire him in the mid season?
Speaker 1: The first first year out? You got what three weeks?
Speaker 1: Four games? Three to four games? Yeah? What's the point?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Merry Christmas, here here's your pink slipping down. Just
Speaker 1: just wait, I mean, what's the purpose?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, what you know? What you know?
Speaker 4: I mean firing your defensive coordinator because you've got this
Speaker 4: rash of injuries. You're not going to bring in a
Speaker 4: defense coordinator that's suddenly going to have players.
Speaker 1: Well, there's no question he says all the right things.
Speaker 1: And I don't know him. I talked to him, uh
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year when we had all
Speaker 1: the media stuff. Good guy and all that stuff. I've
Speaker 1: always said, the good guys don't really become very good coaches.
Speaker 1: They just don't have to be paying the next So
Speaker 1: I'll start there. If I've said this for a month now,
Speaker 1: I feel that there was a disconnect between the players
Speaker 1: and the coach. There has been for a while. This
Speaker 1: is the same team that struggled in a U and
Speaker 1: I and I remember going out and going to the game.
Speaker 1: I didn't cover the game. I was walking out with
Speaker 1: the pants and says one guy says, just been passing
Speaker 1: it didn't. It wasn't directed to me. He was with
Speaker 1: the girlfriend problems. Oh we're gonna get killed. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get killed all year because there was not they were
Speaker 1: not impressive against any U and and what was that line?
Speaker 4: I should have asked him to be your Monday co host?
Speaker 4: The well, and what are you doing on Monday? See
Speaker 4: great observation. The guy got the slug. Well, the guy,
Speaker 4: the guy Dennis Green, what did he say?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: They are what we thought they were. We are we
Speaker 1: are who they thought they were, or they they are
Speaker 1: where we thought they This team is the same team
Speaker 1: that we saw against NAU and thinking, Oh, they're holding
Speaker 1: the team that they're playing. They're not showing their their
Speaker 1: their big plays. They're not showing this, not showing that.
Speaker 1: But because they don't want to come on, they were
Speaker 1: showing everything and it didn't matter. They were showing everything thing.
Speaker 4: Okay, And I think they get they I tell you
Speaker 4: that they peaked against uh uh Texas attack.
Speaker 1: They peaked against Utah.
Speaker 4: I mean they played, they played decent ball there against
Speaker 4: those teams they got. The rest of the season they've
Speaker 4: played peaked terrible. Holy crap, what the hell you're using
Speaker 4: that word with this these low low Well, well, you've
Speaker 4: got to peak somewhere. I mean, no, they don't go
Speaker 4: there there you know there there is a place. It's
Speaker 4: the highest, the highest peak in Alabama. It's not very high, okay, but.
Speaker 1: It is a peak that's it's like momentum. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense.
Speaker 4: Hey, look, it's a it's one game season now, Okay,
Speaker 4: it comes down Arizona State, Beter, Arizona State. I mean
Speaker 4: that's that that that's our goal and objective. All the
Speaker 4: other goals and objectives are off off the chart. We've
Speaker 4: we've lined through all our other ones.
Speaker 1: Right now Beter is on a state. Okay, well that's
Speaker 1: that's three four weeks away, right, three weeks away. Good
Speaker 1: luck with that. This this team or this season has
Speaker 1: been one of the more pub I've been here a
Speaker 1: long time. You've you've been here a while now. This
Speaker 1: has been one of the more perplexing teams seasons I've
Speaker 1: seen in a long time. And that's basketball, that's football.
Speaker 1: Uh And you know when someone was here, they just
Speaker 1: they were horrible there. That team was just horrible. So
Speaker 1: this this is a bit better. Yeah, right, yeah. And
Speaker 1: the question now is what's going on with the players?
Speaker 1: Have they have they quit and given up? Which you
Speaker 1: hope not to see. I saw this morning when I
Speaker 1: was going to to come to work, Justin Justin Spiras
Speaker 1: said he was gonna asked the question if if he
Speaker 1: did you listen to the press conference? Probably not that
Speaker 1: if he don't asked question whether if he felt the
Speaker 1: Brendan felt that the team had given up or has
Speaker 1: given up on him. I don't know if he had
Speaker 1: asked that question or answer that's the question. So I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go that far. But hey, if it walks like
Speaker 1: a duck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's at this point, it's really you know,
Speaker 4: getting getting you know, blown out early. Yes, like exactly,
Speaker 4: it's kind of like, okay, come on, man, let's get
Speaker 4: the hell out of dogs. I've said this a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe when they were playing Kansas City this this
Speaker 1: get the hell out of Dodgs. This what are we
Speaker 1: doing here in the school? Yeah? I was so so
Speaker 1: I will tell you I've I've been positive.
Speaker 4: All year, and then even when I was not positive,
Speaker 4: I was at least like, hey, you know, it's the
Speaker 4: first season. You know, we'll see where it goes. I
Speaker 4: still think that you got to give the guy a
Speaker 4: little time. You got to make sure it's his team.
Speaker 4: This isn't he's not taking over his team. Even though
Speaker 4: we have some people that are like, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 4: he had all this talent last year.
Speaker 1: Look, it's still you know, that's not making a mistakes
Speaker 1: he has talent. He has talent, and maybe it's her talent.
Speaker 1: But some people hurt. I mean we lost a lot. Sure,
Speaker 1: sure so you ever heard you ever play on a
Speaker 1: team that's overcheaved. I can tell you one, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to bore the people.
Speaker 4: It happens. It does happen, Okay, I mean, yeah, you
Speaker 4: get it. You get a team that you get, a
Speaker 4: team that does does very well, is overlooked by people,
Speaker 4: comes in and plays above their head, catches the momentum
Speaker 4: which I know you don't you don't think exists, but starts.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 4: What they do is they start playing with confidence, no
Speaker 4: question you can do. What does this team not have? Well, yeah,
Speaker 4: this team certainly does not have any confidence. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: say that, you know, it couldn't build confidence in the
Speaker 4: fact that it's just not putting together plays. Now I
Speaker 4: do believe that they have. The players are probably questioning
Speaker 4: the coach and they see the thing. It says fire Brennan.
Speaker 4: They're probably sitting there going, well, okay, I jumped out
Speaker 4: of the wrong ship, or it's like I got the
Speaker 4: wrong captain of the ship that I jumped on.
Speaker 1: It's got to be in their minds too, So I
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see and guess what happens at the
Speaker 1: end of the year. All the time, Well, you can't
Speaker 1: fire the players, right, you can fire and the players say, well,
Speaker 1: it's on us because you know, because we should have
Speaker 1: prevented this from happening.
Speaker 4: Well, so I will tell you that old Neon Dion
Speaker 4: is the one that, uh he fired his players. I
Speaker 4: mean he went into into Colorado and said, son, it's
Speaker 4: time for you to move on.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you some right now.
Speaker 4: That's that's the other side of this nil and transfer portal. Okay,
Speaker 4: you got coaches that are coming into coming in and sitting,
Speaker 4: sitting their players down at the end of the year,
Speaker 4: and they're saying, you know, instead of saying, okay, my
Speaker 4: plan for you is that we're gonna have you lift
Speaker 4: or we're gonna have you this. We're gonna focus on
Speaker 4: your running. We're gonna make you better. Sure, coaches are saying, hey,
Speaker 4: my plan for you is this. You're playing at San
Speaker 4: Jose State next year. That's my plan for you.
Speaker 1: Sure. No, come on, You've been a part of this
Speaker 1: Division one football stuff for a long time. You've seen it.
Speaker 1: It happens everywhere. It happens everywhere, except that he made
Speaker 1: his situation public. He said some wrong things to the
Speaker 1: kids that you don't see other coaches do because you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to. They don't give you access to that
Speaker 1: because they come in time. But the thing is that
Speaker 1: you don't have coaches. Rarely.
Speaker 4: You may have a coach that hits her and says,
Speaker 4: I don't see a future for you on this team. Sure, okay,
Speaker 4: but for the most part, coaches are saying this is
Speaker 4: the this is the team that I have. I've got
Speaker 4: to develop them, I've got to build them. But there's
Speaker 4: I mean, we have people. You know, there's coaches right
Speaker 4: now that are sitters like going, okay, you were the
Speaker 4: second starring quarterback last year, the first string quarterback left.
Speaker 4: They're not sitting there going okay, you're next in line.
Speaker 4: We need to develop you. They're sitting there saying it's
Speaker 4: like going sun, we're bringing somebody in on the transfer portal.
Speaker 1: You're not my guy. It happens in business, happens in life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but see that's to bring your guy in.
Speaker 4: That's the coach's side of this. Oh huge transfer. You know,
Speaker 4: the players are like going oh hey, I'm leaving. I'm
Speaker 4: not going to play for you anymore. See there's a
Speaker 4: coach's side of this too, where it's like you need
Speaker 4: to hit the road. I'm getting somebody out.
Speaker 1: The thing that, well, I've said this a lot. The
Speaker 1: thing that practiced me is that they don't look like
Speaker 1: they're playing hard or or he says they're playing hard
Speaker 1: in practice and all that. Okay, good for that, but
Speaker 1: they don't keep scoring practice. Uh, and they're just it's
Speaker 1: five in a row. It's not competitive. Five in a
Speaker 1: row not competitive, that's the thing. And where do you
Speaker 1: where do you find that if you don't have it?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. It may be I
Speaker 4: don't know. It may be the players. I mean, it
Speaker 4: may be the fact that you know.
Speaker 7: It is both.
Speaker 1: It's both, it's both. I mean, why not it could be.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know of a coach that's you.
Speaker 1: You don't, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that a coach is taking over a
Speaker 4: job and then all of a sudden quits in the
Speaker 4: middle of the No. No, no, coach, no no, I'm talking
Speaker 4: about playing hard for him. I mean, you may not
Speaker 4: be playing hard for me, That's what I'm saying. The
Speaker 4: players may be playing hard for Brendon. Brendan certainly is
Speaker 4: not giving up. Someone gave up someone someone gave up
Speaker 4: in the middle of the middle of the season. He
Speaker 4: didn't really care one way or no. He was he
Speaker 4: was getting he was catch.
Speaker 1: How many times have you been in a part of
Speaker 1: a football program, player or coach in your capacity even
Speaker 1: that army years? Twenty years, oh, a long time time. Okay,
Speaker 1: how many times have you say, I'm sure you've seen
Speaker 1: this before? What players teams have did a given up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh sure, And would you admit that?
Speaker 4: Hell no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No one's gonna yeah,
Speaker 4: no one's gonna admit that.
Speaker 1: Sure, no players are gonna admit that.
Speaker 4: But it's one of those things where you kind of
Speaker 4: see that far away look in their eyes where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they're not looking, they're not looking intently, They're just kind
Speaker 4: of like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this will be over soon. Yeah, yeah, Henry, you
Speaker 1: believe that.
Speaker 6: I don't know what to believe anymore.
Speaker 1: He's already jada, he's twenty one, he's jaded. I like it.
Speaker 1: You're listening to me. No, it's tough. It's tough to
Speaker 1: figure out what's going on. I mean, if they had
Speaker 1: the magic one, they would have found it. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: It's a problem. I don't know if he said we
Speaker 1: got to coach better today, and I still don't know
Speaker 1: what that means. I think that it's one. I think
Speaker 1: that it takes time to get your system into place. Wait,
Speaker 1: it takes time for your for your team to accept
Speaker 1: this system in the place. How much give me a time?
Speaker 4: Give me It takes time for you to get your
Speaker 4: your players into place. I think that by we should
Speaker 4: know a lot more by this time next year.
Speaker 1: That's too much time. That's quite too much. He came
Speaker 1: in too much. Time, came in spring, came in the spring.
Speaker 1: You get some time with the guys. You come in
Speaker 1: the fall and you get some time with the guys,
Speaker 1: but not your guys. You may not even be just good.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry I'm ragging, but it's it's it's very apparent.
Speaker 1: It's very you know, you you get a car doesn't
Speaker 1: work well.
Speaker 4: I will tell you, I'd rather I'd rather have I'd
Speaker 4: rather have a team of players that are playing hard
Speaker 4: for you, yes, than to have a lot of talented
Speaker 4: players that don't care to totally totally, and I think
Speaker 4: we can where are point. I think we can point
Speaker 4: fingers at players that are very talented that don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't need names. I don't know. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even know names. But it's very this. Okay, first time
Speaker 1: is a mistake. If you lose by twenty twenty five. Okay,
Speaker 1: second time, okay, okay, third time, fourth time, now you
Speaker 1: kind of think, what the hell is happening?
Speaker 4: I mean, well, right, but so so what's the solution here?
Speaker 4: I mean there is I don't think there is one.
Speaker 4: I don't think there is one. Oh, we're just we're
Speaker 4: condemned to this for the rest of our lives. No,
Speaker 4: the rest of the month, rest of November. Oh, we're
Speaker 4: certainly condemned to this the rest of the year. There's
Speaker 4: no doubt about it. That's what I said. The only the
Speaker 4: only game that matters rest of the way in is
Speaker 4: Arizona State Wilson.
Speaker 1: You gonna say they have a buy this week, They're
Speaker 1: not gonna lose. They're play in two weeks Houston Houston
Speaker 1: or TCU HO. So winnable game on paper. What we
Speaker 1: know winnable games. Didn't you say this in the u
Speaker 1: c F. Didn't you think that of the previous UCF
Speaker 1: has played some good games, but.
Speaker 4: They were it was a game that we had down
Speaker 4: by the certainly at the beginning of the season you
Speaker 4: had him down as a win.
Speaker 1: So who's the who's the one previous to this? Last
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Speaker 4: At the beginning of the season, we put that down
Speaker 4: as a win. We gotta go.
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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to my in the ballgirl Fox Sports
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Speaker 1: to day. Henry's at the Big Wheel here and now
Speaker 1: we have former you a hoopster hoopstar Chase butting your chase?
Speaker 1: How are you good?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 1: Doing well?
Speaker 3: You're just pronouncing my name wrong.
Speaker 1: Budding girl, budding girl. There you go. It's been too long, Chase.
Speaker 1: That's why I forget stuff.
Speaker 14: Yeah, good?
Speaker 1: What the hell are you doing? I was in your
Speaker 1: area over the weekend at the at the Breeders Cup.
Speaker 1: Were you in the neighborhood? Are you out winning some
Speaker 1: awards and games? I was.
Speaker 14: I was not in the neighborhood. I was out in
Speaker 14: Dallas for a volleyball tournament because we are doing this
Speaker 14: new AVP League and it was the final final week
Speaker 14: of the AVP League. And now next weekend back home
Speaker 14: and now you.
Speaker 6: Are in playoffs.
Speaker 1: Did you see did he go see you? Because he's
Speaker 1: a goopball ben at Davidson, did he go see hi?
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, he I think he went to the thing.
Speaker 1: I think he had a video of you watching you
Speaker 1: play out in Dallas, because he's in Dallas.
Speaker 14: Oh okay, maybe yeah. I did not run into him.
Speaker 1: So you I'm gonna tell I'm gonna reminisce a little
Speaker 1: bit a bit because you were one of my favorite
Speaker 1: players back in the day. Do you remember how you
Speaker 1: came out your freshman year for Red Blue or Midnight Madness.
Speaker 1: I think Midnight Madness.
Speaker 14: I came out, it was Midnight Madness. I came out
Speaker 14: like with beach towels and unglosses on and kind of
Speaker 14: just showing my my California roots, my beach volleyballs and
Speaker 14: volleyball roots and coming out and throwing that stuff into
Speaker 14: the crowd.
Speaker 1: I remember very well, and I'm thinking, that's a little teas,
Speaker 1: that's a little teas.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Did you kind of did you kind of figure that
Speaker 1: if the NBA didn't work out, and it did for
Speaker 1: a while for a few years, that this would be
Speaker 1: in the in the plan.
Speaker 14: Yeah, this was always in the back of my mind
Speaker 14: of what I kind of wanted to do was to
Speaker 14: get into be trolleyball after I however long my basketball
Speaker 14: career was, and you know, I was able to fulfill
Speaker 14: it to the best my ability and made some great
Speaker 14: goals for myself and I was able to achieve them
Speaker 14: by like the one that I did a few months
Speaker 14: ago of making the Olympics.
Speaker 4: Yes, uh, Chase, Uh, Mike, Mike Quinn. It's Uh, man,
Speaker 4: it's it's really great talking. Uh. The I do remember
Speaker 4: you coming out in the in the beach attire, and
Speaker 4: I grew up in southern California, and so it's say,
Speaker 4: it was kind of cool to have you come come
Speaker 4: out here.
Speaker 1: The uh.
Speaker 4: I get a question for you for UH is the
Speaker 4: did you do the order right? I mean, would you
Speaker 4: have wanted to uh maybe go into uh volleyball sooner?
Speaker 4: Looking looking back on this stuff, mm.
Speaker 1: Hm no, definitely not.
Speaker 14: I think this was always the order that I wanted.
Speaker 14: I wanted to pursue basketball. I think it was something
Speaker 14: that I enjoyed more. Obviously, you could have a better career, make.
Speaker 15: More money, you know.
Speaker 14: I just love the team atmosphere of basketball way more
Speaker 14: than two and two with beach volleyball. So this was
Speaker 14: always a plan, always a goal play basketball, see how
Speaker 14: long it could take me. And to be honest, I
Speaker 14: mostly when I was thinking about switching over to beach volleyball,
Speaker 14: way back when it was more just for fun, just
Speaker 14: to do something to be competitive, still live that lifestyle
Speaker 14: of being a beach volleyball player. I never expected to
Speaker 14: be where I'm at now, playing at the highest level,
Speaker 14: competed against the best teams in the world. It just
Speaker 14: kind of just how the dominoes fell, with my career
Speaker 14: ending shorter than what I thought it would, where I
Speaker 14: was still young enough to kind of pick up beach
Speaker 14: volleyball and learn the game a lot faster and still
Speaker 14: continue to be playing at a very high level.
Speaker 1: And how could how could Chase not do basketball? Given
Speaker 1: and I want you to reflect on this, A loot
Speaker 1: at the time said you were the best recruit he'd
Speaker 1: ever recruited before you got here.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean him saying that was you know, a
Speaker 14: huge honor of kind of just my work ethic and
Speaker 14: who I was as a player in high school. And
Speaker 14: you know, just the one thing I really wish I
Speaker 14: had was more time under him. Yeah, I only got
Speaker 14: that one year. I only got that one year. Even
Speaker 14: that one year, he wasn't, I think fully into it
Speaker 14: because he had so much stuff going on in his
Speaker 14: personal life, you know, And he was one of the
Speaker 14: reasons why I wanted to come back for my second
Speaker 14: year to be coached by him more, to learn more
Speaker 14: from him and from from from his assistant. So it
Speaker 14: was you know, it was a tough situation after that
Speaker 14: of changing coaches and whatnot and changing, you know, having
Speaker 14: the team change and everything when I was there. But
Speaker 14: I wouldn't ever change my experience, you know, being at
Speaker 14: the University of Arizona for three years was you know, amazing.
Speaker 14: My time there, my memories, my friendships, those things have
Speaker 14: lasted through through the ages, and those are things I'll
Speaker 14: never forget.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you remember this one too.
Speaker 1: And I remember it well because I think it was
Speaker 1: your second year. It could have been your first year.
Speaker 1: Uh so, I guess not so well. But Marcus was
Speaker 1: his back for a second year. I think it was,
Speaker 1: and you may have been a freshman, you can clarify
Speaker 1: that for me. And we reran into each other underneath
Speaker 1: the Michael walking behind us as Chase. We all know
Speaker 1: you're a good guy and on stuff. Why don't you
Speaker 1: just hell with the hell with it, just take over
Speaker 1: because we know you're good. And Marcus was having Marcus
Speaker 1: syndrome his sophomore year, and you just take over. You said, no,
Speaker 1: I need to know my place. I don't want to
Speaker 1: usurp anybody things like that, because you would have had
Speaker 1: you would have had a even better for sure.
Speaker 14: I thought, Yeah, I still feel like, I mean, I
Speaker 14: still had a great year, right, and you know, there
Speaker 14: were times in some games where Ludelson would pull me
Speaker 14: to the side and told me that I had to
Speaker 14: meet more aggressive, had to shoot the ball more, you know,
Speaker 14: when I have my opportunity to take it. So you know,
Speaker 14: obviously that gave me a lot of confidence. But as
Speaker 14: a freshman, there was a lot of seniors.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of older.
Speaker 14: Guys on that team. So those were the guys I
Speaker 14: was looking up to, and I didn't want to, you know,
Speaker 14: try to do too much and kind of overshadow them
Speaker 14: because you know, they're they're the guys that starts We're
Speaker 14: there for four years, right taking over, taking over the program.
Speaker 14: So I was just kind of following their lead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, And that was the type of
Speaker 1: player you were kind of like, you know, put me
Speaker 1: in where you need me, I'll do what I can
Speaker 1: to help and all that. And you're right, it was
Speaker 1: Loots in the beginning of the end. So that didn't help, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, exactly.
Speaker 4: Hey, getting back to the getting back to the Olympics,
Speaker 4: what was the were you there for the did you
Speaker 4: do the opening and closing ceremonies?
Speaker 14: I did. I was there for the opening ceremonies.
Speaker 16: I did not.
Speaker 14: I did not do the closing ceremonies. I decided to
Speaker 14: leave a few days earlier with my wife and kid
Speaker 14: head back home because we've been there for about four
Speaker 14: weeks so. But the opening ceremonies was unbelievable. It was
Speaker 14: It was amazing to see how many fans showed up,
Speaker 14: especially it was pouring rain down that lined up across
Speaker 14: the river that were just you know, waiting for us
Speaker 14: to pass by on these boats. And it was great
Speaker 14: to be there with all the other Olympics as well
Speaker 14: Olympians as well.
Speaker 1: So people have been asking me to get you on
Speaker 1: the show, and a lot of them I still have
Speaker 1: you as your favorite player from back in the day
Speaker 1: and that's almost twenty years ago, right, Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: must be something because people love you and they were
Speaker 1: excited to see you in the Olympics doing really well. Yeah.
Speaker 14: Like I said, it was kind of a dream come true.
Speaker 14: And one site switched over to peach volleyball that that
Speaker 14: became My ultimate goal was to make the Olympics, and
Speaker 14: it was a hard road for me to get there,
Speaker 14: but getting there was an unbelievable dream. I think we
Speaker 14: had one of the most iconic venues playing underneath the
Speaker 14: Eiffel Tower where there was matches at night where they
Speaker 14: would have these light shows go off when you're getting introduced,
Speaker 14: and then they timed it with the Eiffel Tower like sparkling,
Speaker 14: and it was just like one of those majestic just
Speaker 14: times and trying the memories that you try to just
Speaker 14: hold on because of so so it's brilliant.
Speaker 4: So the being a southern California boy, you got eyes
Speaker 4: on l A I do.
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 14: I think once once I've gone through the Olympics one,
Speaker 14: so now I kind of know the lay of the
Speaker 14: land of how to get there, how to prepare my body,
Speaker 14: what I need to do to accomplish to get to
Speaker 14: the next one. It kind of just motivates me more
Speaker 14: to to get there now and like not only just
Speaker 14: get there, like now I want to meddle. Like now
Speaker 14: I've experienced it. Now I kind of know what I
Speaker 14: need to do, and now I just want to like finish,
Speaker 14: finish this career off right with trying to get a
Speaker 14: medal in LA And what better way not to do
Speaker 14: it here in my hometown.
Speaker 4: So these sports are grind on the on the body.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not that easy and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean I can't there. You're a young person, but uh,
Speaker 4: in this sporting world, you know you're going to be
Speaker 4: what forty Uh in l A, how are you?
Speaker 1: How are you doing this magic lakes here?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 14: I think, Uh, the biggest thing is is the sand
Speaker 14: really helps the body. I'm not putting as much stress
Speaker 14: on my joints, and I think that's what kind of
Speaker 14: started to happen to me towards the end of my
Speaker 14: basketball career was you know, I was going through a
Speaker 14: lot of knee pains, ankle pains, back pains. All these
Speaker 14: joints were just kind of with all that pounding from
Speaker 14: the hardwood was really taking the toll on me. And
Speaker 14: once I switched to the beach volleyball, all those went away.
Speaker 14: The same is so much more forgiving. It's a lot
Speaker 14: easier to jump and land and you know, kind of
Speaker 14: fall down.
Speaker 3: If you need to.
Speaker 14: There's no physical contact in the sport. So all of
Speaker 14: that just has helped me kind of prolong my career.
Speaker 14: And you see it a lot in the past where
Speaker 14: some of the best players can play in their late
Speaker 14: thirties sometimes early forties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's got to be a strategy. Every game has
Speaker 1: a strategy. What is it in volleyball?
Speaker 14: I mean, the biggest strategy I have his pretty much
Speaker 14: the team that's the more consistent team wins. And I
Speaker 14: know that's very simple as me talking about it, but
Speaker 14: you know, whoever serves the toughest, whoever passes the easiest,
Speaker 14: whoever sides out without making errors mostly wins. And it's
Speaker 14: pretty simple say that, but it's a lot harder doing
Speaker 14: it when you're out there. And that's something that I've
Speaker 14: had to learn through my volleyball career of just getting
Speaker 14: better at being more consistent and not making too many
Speaker 14: errors each match. And I've come a long way, but
Speaker 14: I feel like I've got to a point where I'm
Speaker 14: pretty good at being the best player I can each
Speaker 14: and every match and not making too many too many mistakes.
Speaker 1: Have you this might be a dumb question because you
Speaker 1: you know, this is not what your first sport was
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, pro you're probably still reaching
Speaker 1: potential yet.
Speaker 14: I definitely don't think I've reached my peak potential. I
Speaker 14: think every year that I'm trying to add something new
Speaker 14: to my game and try to keep evolving just because
Speaker 14: you're right, I haven't been in this sport for for
Speaker 14: that long, and there's still new things that I actually
Speaker 14: keep improving on them. And that's what kind of just
Speaker 14: brings me joy still playing this sport, is there's still
Speaker 14: things that I could keep getting better at and keep
Speaker 14: learning each year and keep trying to add to my game,
Speaker 14: and it makes it kind of fun and interesting and
Speaker 14: cool and something that I'm going to work on for
Speaker 14: the next four years to kind of help me to
Speaker 14: get to the next Olympics.
Speaker 1: So you.
Speaker 4: You talked about making the difference in the support and
Speaker 4: I know my my wife went to coach or went
Speaker 4: to coaching clinics with Kars Karai who talked about aggressive
Speaker 4: serving being the difference in a lot of these indoor games.
Speaker 4: Is that is that the aspect that you think that
Speaker 4: is the big difference between these things, or is it
Speaker 4: netplay or is it you know, run.
Speaker 14: I think that's the first I think that's the first line,
Speaker 14: is aggressive serving. And then I think also you've got
Speaker 14: to kind of dissect what type of team you are.
Speaker 3: Team you are?
Speaker 14: Are you a team that is defensive minded?
Speaker 3: Where you're going.
Speaker 14: To play a lot on the nets, getting a lot
Speaker 14: of digs, getting a lot of blocks. Are you a
Speaker 14: team that's just going to be super consistent out so
Speaker 14: you could be more aggressive serving? So it's kind of
Speaker 14: dependent on what type of team you are, but but
Speaker 14: mostly yes, the first the first thing that you could
Speaker 14: always do is be more aggressive on the service line,
Speaker 14: and that really determines a lot of the times if
Speaker 14: you win or lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to ask you just go ahead.
Speaker 14: No, just I was just gonna say, just because teams
Speaker 14: are so good now, the teams all around the world,
Speaker 14: they're they're so good. Every team is so consistent, every team.
Speaker 14: You know, we used we used to as the USA,
Speaker 14: used to be us in Brazil, where the two top
Speaker 14: countries that would always get the top. Now you have
Speaker 14: all these other countries that have you know, kind of
Speaker 14: eclipsed us or are right there with us at the top.
Speaker 14: And the world is just getting better at this sport,
Speaker 14: and the guys are getting bigger, they're getting stronger, they're
Speaker 14: getting faster, and you know, as a country, we have
Speaker 14: to keep evolving and getting better as well.
Speaker 1: So what was the time frame you were no longer
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Uh that that spread between the NBA
Speaker 1: and volleyball was theret of like a big span a
Speaker 1: few months a year. What was that?
Speaker 14: It was? When I finished, When I finished, when I
Speaker 14: decided to retire from basketball, I kind of jumped right
Speaker 14: into beach volleyball about three months later, and I was
Speaker 14: able to find a really good partner, an older player
Speaker 14: that has been playing for twenty years, and Sham Rosenthal,
Speaker 14: who was you know, kind of a household name in
Speaker 14: beach volleyball, and he picked me up, so I was
Speaker 14: able to really learn a lot from him, and we
Speaker 14: really just dove right into you know, playing against teams
Speaker 14: at the highest level, traveling into international tournament, competing for
Speaker 14: AVP titles right away, and you know, it was a
Speaker 14: roote awakening for me to kind of see how how
Speaker 14: raw I was at this point and how how much
Speaker 14: improvement I needed to grow to get to the player
Speaker 14: that I wanted to be.
Speaker 1: Well I wanted to go with that is, you know,
Speaker 1: how athletes are competitive all their lives until or not,
Speaker 1: was there that hunger to get back and become a
Speaker 1: competitor again, you know, whether you're whatever. People got to
Speaker 1: find golf. We got to find poker. They got to
Speaker 1: find something to get those juices going. Was that was
Speaker 1: that the case with you or you just kind of
Speaker 1: moved so quickly into it.
Speaker 14: I think I just moved so closely into it. And
Speaker 14: I really think that I am probably one of the
Speaker 14: most competitive people in the world, so so that part
Speaker 14: of it is always there with me. I think I need,
Speaker 14: like my daily life needs some sort of some sort
Speaker 14: of competition, and it's one of the I think my
Speaker 14: greatest strengths as a as an athlete, and probably one
Speaker 14: of the things my wife hates about me the most
Speaker 14: is because I'm always trying to compete with or with
Speaker 14: on a daily basis. But yeah, that's just something that
Speaker 14: I've always had as that competitive nature and always and
Speaker 14: always wanting to compete, especially against people at the highest levels.
Speaker 14: And I think that's one of the reasons why when
Speaker 14: I did decide to switch to be jolleyball, I wanted
Speaker 14: to do at the highest level and try it for
Speaker 14: the Olympics.
Speaker 1: If you want to have a long marriage, I'd stop
Speaker 1: competing right now. Also, let me maybe lastly, when you
Speaker 1: were here, some of the great moments that we see
Speaker 1: or we saw back in the day was the Houston game.
Speaker 1: You know, how can I go without asking you? And
Speaker 1: that was you guys are getting crushed down by eleven
Speaker 1: with uh and then I can't remember his name now
Speaker 1: steps on you and you guys just turned it on.
Speaker 1: It was like fantastic, still one of the most memorable
Speaker 1: things in your life that happened because you guys, you
Speaker 1: guys found something.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that game was I mean a little
Speaker 14: bit of a little bit of a karma for them
Speaker 14: as well as you know that little spark too, you know,
Speaker 14: with the minute left we never give up mentality where
Speaker 14: I think, you know me, I hit a three and
Speaker 14: Nick hit a three and Jordan was able to get
Speaker 14: some easy buckets and then we had some luck on
Speaker 14: their side of missing some free throws and I think
Speaker 14: it was actually even less than a minute forty five
Speaker 14: seconds with like you know, down down by ten and
Speaker 14: we were able to come back. So yeah, that was
Speaker 14: a unbelievable, it's thrilling comeback. One of my most notable,
Speaker 14: you know games. But not only was it just that game,
Speaker 14: it also propelled us to go on a winning treak
Speaker 14: after that and kind of got us into the NCAA
Speaker 14: tournament as well.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, no question. Well, Chase, I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: Good luck to rest the way. Yeah, it's quite an
Speaker 1: honor to talk to you, buddy. It's amazing, great, great,
Speaker 1: great to talk to you again, and then good luck
Speaker 1: with you. How old how old your your your your
Speaker 1: young one?
Speaker 14: My son, my son Beckham is two years than four
Speaker 14: months old.
Speaker 1: Welcome to you're a rookie. You're just a rookie at
Speaker 1: this Yeah, thanks, definitely rook Thanks Chase. We're going to
Speaker 1: keep touch with you. Thanks a bunch man, all right,
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Speaker 3: because nothing's changed.
Speaker 1: So what's changed that you're calling in?
Speaker 3: Well, I think I think we need to start looking
Speaker 3: at this in a more surgical manner. And the I
Speaker 3: mean the patients, amputations, That's what I'm trying to get at.
Speaker 4: Okay, you go taking people out.
Speaker 3: Well, so we got all right. Fense in the last
Speaker 3: four weeks has scored the same number of points as
Speaker 3: is scored in the first game.
Speaker 1: Ye. So, and the problem is.
Speaker 3: Getting worse and not better as time goes on. And
Speaker 3: so the question I would ask myself is do I
Speaker 3: want to think about this situation as is until next year?
Speaker 3: Because I've got news for you, guys. You're talking about
Speaker 3: the end of the season. The football season's over. It's over.
Speaker 3: And that's the way to approach this is to as
Speaker 3: if the football season is finished, because it is. And
Speaker 3: then he's got to start thinking about, all right, is
Speaker 3: this what we want to wake up to next next spring?
Speaker 3: And maybe not?
Speaker 1: Right? Right? So what what's the solution? What's a quick fix?
Speaker 3: I don't think there is one, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: And you're in your eye a quick fix? Is it
Speaker 1: to dump up a coach or to dump the staff?
Speaker 1: Just what what do you think how you fix this?
Speaker 1: Maybe long term? Long term? I would start over with
Speaker 1: with you new coaching staff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's drastic because nothing has worked. I mean
Speaker 3: when we when we see a constant decline week after
Speaker 3: week after week after week, I mean, the question becomes
Speaker 3: not who what do we need to change, but who
Speaker 3: do we need to keep? And the answer to that
Speaker 3: when you see that decline is no one right?
Speaker 1: Right? Well, give me need to be gutted, tell me
Speaker 1: the tell me again, because I know what you're gonna say. Uh.
Speaker 1: The solution you have for me uh And it's a
Speaker 1: lot like a hek he did with the summon cut
Speaker 1: bait early cut bait now, because it's not going to
Speaker 1: get any better and you can lose a lot of
Speaker 1: people if you don't do what you do exactly.
Speaker 3: I think. I think the more time that passes, the
Speaker 3: less enthusiasm you're going to have for next year. And
Speaker 3: that's not what the situation you want to be in.
Speaker 3: This is coming to a slow rolling stop.
Speaker 4: So so how do we how do we buy out
Speaker 4: the coaching staff? Now, this guy's gonna go.
Speaker 3: You sit down with him and say, look, what's going
Speaker 3: to take to get you go? We'll get you out
Speaker 3: of here. You can see. Well, I would try to
Speaker 3: negotiate with him because look, I think if you're reasonable
Speaker 3: about this, you're going to take some of the responsibility.
Speaker 1: And see what he.
Speaker 3: Says, but this is not good. You're not going to
Speaker 3: have any momentum for next year at all. The football
Speaker 3: season is over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it is.
Speaker 3: Any any the idea about momentum or enthusiasm. That's all BS.
Speaker 3: At this point, what you're going to have is this
Speaker 3: thing is going to be at us not only had
Speaker 3: a dead stop next spring, but it's going to have
Speaker 3: a concrete wall in front it, and that will be
Speaker 3: the memory of last year.
Speaker 1: Did you do you? I said this earlier. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you were listening, but to me, this is
Speaker 1: one of the weirdest peculiar situations on any sport that
Speaker 1: I've been here. You have these great expectations and then
Speaker 1: this happens. So something that was in the case.
Speaker 3: I've had difficult experiences like this with business, you know,
Speaker 3: and you see an operating unit and that goes down.
Speaker 3: What the hell's going on there? And you have to
Speaker 3: analyze it, you have to make tough decisions and sometimes
Speaker 3: you just need to execute. I don't think anything is
Speaker 3: going to change this. I don't think anything's going to
Speaker 3: improve it. Yeah, that's what I have to say today.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jim, thanks as always, You're welcome. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are feeling that way.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, I mean except a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of people feeling that way. Brennan's contract is seventeen point
Speaker 1: five million over five years, right. I think the buyout
Speaker 1: I read yesterday, I think Brian said this. I thought
Speaker 1: it was ten, it was gonna be about twelve twelve.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a lot of people with twelve
Speaker 4: million dollars in a fine No.
Speaker 1: No, And there's not a group of them. You don't like, Mike.
Speaker 1: They have to collect a lot of money just to
Speaker 1: get some players here to make this place better. So
Speaker 1: you have you know, I know you get calls. You
Speaker 1: know you have not deep pockets, but you have pockets
Speaker 1: that are kind of there, and so you get calls.
Speaker 1: Can you give this? Can you give that? And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of different factions that you have to give
Speaker 1: to the students, now, the student athletes, the university athletic department.
Speaker 1: Now to buy off a coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So if I had if I was the AD
Speaker 4: and I had someone walk into my office and say
Speaker 4: here's twelve million dollars get rid of the coach, I'd
Speaker 4: be like, Hm, why don't we go throw that money
Speaker 4: in there and see if we can get some players
Speaker 4: to come here? Because this is a coach that we
Speaker 4: sat down. Now, I know this AD didn't buy this guy.
Speaker 4: But you know, here's here's somebody that we went out
Speaker 4: and said, this is the best coach we can get
Speaker 4: on the market, and now six months later we're going
Speaker 4: to sit there and say, no, this guy's terrible.
Speaker 1: What does it do for future prospects, coaches and otherwise.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's a coach and here's an ad who'd
Speaker 1: give up on you right away.
Speaker 4: Yeah you want, I'll give you five games. This is
Speaker 4: in the NFL. I mean even at that, it's at
Speaker 4: the NFL. You're going to give somebody more than five games?
Speaker 1: Yeah? There how many games? With seven games? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: seven games? Seven games?
Speaker 4: You gotta get You got to give the guy more
Speaker 4: than that. So that's not we go down? Do we
Speaker 4: go down from there? Do we come in next year
Speaker 4: and find out that we have the same disconnects Like
Speaker 4: you're talking about.
Speaker 1: What if okay, you have three games and they all
Speaker 1: continue to go the same way, in the in the
Speaker 1: way one sided way that's going.
Speaker 4: What do you do? You you give it? To give
Speaker 4: the guy another year? You have to. I just don't
Speaker 4: think you can say you can't sit there and say
Speaker 4: this is the guy that we brought in. Now, is
Speaker 4: this guy doing anything, no malicious or wrong? Or is
Speaker 4: he doing anything guys right now? No, I mean he's not.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're not going to fire this guy for cause.
Speaker 4: And in this time when you're trying to give you know,
Speaker 4: you get you got to give all the players this money.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, there's not enough, there's not money
Speaker 1: to go around. And the funny, I mean players aren't
Speaker 1: playing for coaches anymore. No, no, you know what, You're
Speaker 1: exactly right, you're exactly right. Yeah, it's funny. Did you
Speaker 1: see how much time we have, like tens, we'll come back,
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Speaker 1: let's go