Speaker 1: By Billy cunning in the Great America.
Speaker 2: Of course, the chief law enforcement official, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: in Hamleton County is the county corner doctor Lastmi Somarco.
Speaker 2: By statute, she controls the county with an iron grip
Speaker 2: in many ways. She's also in charge the coroner's office
Speaker 2: and also the crime lab in Hamleton County, which is
Speaker 2: around the region the go to place when there's difficult
Speaker 2: cases in Ohio, Kentucky or Indiana. And one thing I've
Speaker 2: noticed spoke with her off the air about the number
Speaker 2: of dog attacks is increasing, and also the fact that
Speaker 2: thirteen year olds are walking around killing people with guns
Speaker 2: and Ohio law does not allow for a criminal referral
Speaker 2: to adult court til you're at least fourteen. And doctor Samarco,
Speaker 2: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Speaker 2: I was involved in a fundraise for a fundraiser for
Speaker 2: little girl at the Hard Rock Cafe who was brutalized
Speaker 2: by a couple of pit bulls. Cops showed up, had
Speaker 2: to put the pit bulls down, and the cops testified
Speaker 2: that the it's bounced off the pit bull's head like
Speaker 2: it was a ricochet. At a hell of a time.
Speaker 2: Have you noticed an uptick of attacks of the so
Speaker 2: called massive pit bulls and what can what can be
Speaker 2: done to guard against it?
Speaker 1: If anything?
Speaker 3: Well, well, Willie, honestly, is there anything we can do
Speaker 3: to guard against it? I mean, I think that the
Speaker 3: Ohio laws have changed and they seem more intent on
Speaker 3: protecting the pit bulls and their owners and the victims.
Speaker 3: We have noticed, you know, the number of fatal attacks.
Speaker 3: Maybe you don't hear about them as much until you
Speaker 3: know a tragic the death of this little this little
Speaker 3: girl a few weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, and you know,
Speaker 3: and then everybody is horrified, and then it brings it
Speaker 3: to everybody's attention. But you know, I'll just tell you
Speaker 3: one story. My mom, my mom, this past summer in July,
Speaker 3: I believe or July or August, was attacked by a pitbull.
Speaker 3: She was just walking along the sidewalk and a woman
Speaker 3: walked out of her apartment. She had a pitbull mastiff
Speaker 3: mix on a leash, and for whatever reason, the dog
Speaker 3: decided to launch itself on my mom. And you know,
Speaker 3: this dog was one hundred and ten pounds, my mom's
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten pounds, and this dog launched itself
Speaker 3: on my mom and Bitter in the forearm with really
Speaker 3: deep puncture wounds, and then Bitter on the hip. And
Speaker 3: they took my mom to the emergency room and you know,
Speaker 3: had she had to get all of those washed out,
Speaker 3: and you know, when I got there, she had been
Speaker 3: bleeding all over the floor and she needed four series
Speaker 3: of rabies odds after that, and you know, law enforcement
Speaker 3: was called and he said, yeah, I'm really sorry, Doc,
Speaker 3: but all we can really do is fite this woman.
Speaker 3: But there's nothing else we can do. And I said, well,
Speaker 3: that's preposterous. You can't quarantine the dog. I mean, don't
Speaker 3: shouldn't we be testing the dog for rabies? I think
Speaker 3: it's ridiculous that, you know, my elderly mother has to
Speaker 3: go through four series of rabies shots and yet the
Speaker 3: dog owner gets just a citation and goes back to
Speaker 3: doing whatever she's doing.
Speaker 2: And you know, doctor Samarco, if a human being had
Speaker 2: done that to your mother by some means or method,
Speaker 2: no matter, by hands, by a knife, by a mission, whatever,
Speaker 2: if a human being had caused the same injuries to
Speaker 2: your mother as that dog had caused, all hell would
Speaker 2: break loose to the human being, but we treat dogs better.
Speaker 1: Than human beings.
Speaker 2: A little girl in Roselawn, what a beautiful little girl was,
Speaker 2: and you were involved in the odd top suit was
Speaker 2: really horrible, awful.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think I say this all the time,
Speaker 3: and I really mean it, and I don't think people understand.
Speaker 3: But you know, what you see on TV and movies
Speaker 3: is nothing compared to what we see in real life unfortunately,
Speaker 3: especially with this poor little girl and what happened to
Speaker 3: her is just horrific.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, whenever we discuss this topic, not
Speaker 2: you and me, but whenever I bring it up, there's
Speaker 2: a large, pitfull, massive colony of human beings who get
Speaker 2: angry at discussing it. And politics keeps dogs like that
Speaker 2: from being treated as if they're human beings doing similar
Speaker 2: misbehaviors because politics is behind the idea that you have
Speaker 2: a one bite rule, that is, you can bite severely
Speaker 2: without killing somebody, maybe taking off an arm or hand
Speaker 2: or for a series of shots, and it's.
Speaker 1: Like no big deal.
Speaker 2: But the politics of it is on one side because
Speaker 2: in a sense, normal people aren't organized, but the pitfull
Speaker 2: community is terribly maybe not terrible, they're organized to make
Speaker 2: sure laws do not come into effect. And pit bulls
Speaker 2: are great, great pets until they're not. A massive is
Speaker 2: a great pet until the first bite happens. These are
Speaker 2: animals that are configured to cause serious injuries to others.
Speaker 2: And we don't have the laws to protect ourselves from this.
Speaker 2: That little girl, and it happens regularly with dog bites
Speaker 2: all over urban and rural areas. I'm thinking about Michael
Speaker 2: Vick and then we're bet betting on him and we
Speaker 2: don't have the law sufficient to protect.
Speaker 1: And and another I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 2: I often say doctor Somarco, that uh that er, docs, nurses,
Speaker 2: emergency room personnel, you have police, fire, going to scenes
Speaker 2: of horrible incidents. And you sent me a text about
Speaker 2: two or three months ago said, don't forget what we
Speaker 2: have to deal with. Well, what is it in your
Speaker 2: soul that says to doctor Somarco, who could do any
Speaker 2: kind of medical practice in the world and make maybe
Speaker 2: five times the money that what you have to look
Speaker 2: at and deal with PTSD. I'm thinking to look at
Speaker 2: the body of that little girl. What was he three
Speaker 2: or four years old? From Rose Lawn? Half equal you
Speaker 2: can unsee that, So what what do there There's.
Speaker 3: A lot of unfortunately, you know, I must say that
Speaker 3: there are a lot of people in my office who
Speaker 3: you know, we we've talked about it. We've said that,
Speaker 3: you know, there's real ptsd UH involved with what what
Speaker 3: they do. And you know, we try and do what
Speaker 3: we can to get comfort dogs in and you know,
Speaker 3: get them employee assistance. But but there are things that
Speaker 3: you can't unseen. And I think that's the real that's
Speaker 3: a real part of first responders and and what they see.
Speaker 3: And it's not just our team, but you know, it's
Speaker 3: law enforcement, it's fire and ems, and there are some
Speaker 3: horrors that stay with you. I mean I remember the
Speaker 3: very first in my first two weeks of office, we
Speaker 3: had three baby deaths, and I literally told the people
Speaker 3: of my office, I don't think I can do this job.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: We had a three months old or four months old
Speaker 3: and a two year old who was so badly beaten
Speaker 3: and abused, and he was the cutest little guy, and
Speaker 3: I didn't know if I could do it. And I
Speaker 3: can still remember his blue eyes and his little blonde
Speaker 3: here and his little feet and you know, all the
Speaker 3: bruises on him and all the horrible things that happened
Speaker 3: to him, and they stay with you. But I think
Speaker 3: for most of us that are in this business, we
Speaker 3: really try and keep our part of the world a
Speaker 3: little bit safer and try and prevent those kind of
Speaker 3: horrible things from happening to other human beings. But I
Speaker 3: can tell you that when we get children in the office,
Speaker 3: there's there's definitely a palpable pall in the atmosphere in
Speaker 3: the office, and it's everywhere. It's not just in the
Speaker 3: Morgan or in the investigators section, but it's all over.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows about it, and I think it brings to
Speaker 3: four how important it is for everybody in the office
Speaker 3: to do their jobs as well as they can. From
Speaker 3: the crime lab, you know, the tray sevenance, firearms, drugs, toxicology,
Speaker 3: DNA sections to you know, everybody in the morgue and
Speaker 3: the investigative staff that go out there. And I don't
Speaker 3: think anybody is or questions what they do when something
Speaker 3: like that happens. And you're right, I think that the
Speaker 3: PTSD does get to you. Sometimes there are people that
Speaker 3: have left the office or left the roles that they've
Speaker 3: played and switched to different roles in the office that
Speaker 3: you know give you less exposure. So last year we
Speaker 3: lost one of our own to suicide, and that was
Speaker 3: really hard for everybody in the office. And you know,
Speaker 3: it led to some shifts and positions and changes and things. Again,
Speaker 3: like you said, it's really hard to unsee when you
Speaker 3: have to respond to the home of one of your own.
Speaker 3: It's really hard.
Speaker 2: Why do you do it? Because you've been out in
Speaker 2: there for three terms? Stay statue has you the chief
Speaker 2: law enforcement official in Hamlety County. Each corner is so,
Speaker 2: why is doctor Lastivismarco great family?
Speaker 1: Why do you do it?
Speaker 2: Why do you keep You just ran for reelection. I
Speaker 2: think nobody ran against her, But look in your heart
Speaker 2: and tell me why you do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, it's going to sound corny, and there are
Speaker 3: going to be people out there and say whatever, you know,
Speaker 3: there's got to be something else. But it really is
Speaker 3: about trying to keep my little corner of the world
Speaker 3: a little bit safer. And I feel like I'm in
Speaker 3: a position where I can try and help make that
Speaker 3: happen and be impactful on other people to try and
Speaker 3: do the same. And you know, as the first Indian
Speaker 3: American elected in Hamilton County. I feel like I have
Speaker 3: a responsibility to my community to show that it's important
Speaker 3: for us to play a role in the society. I mean,
Speaker 3: most Indian Americans are professionals, and people see us as
Speaker 3: doctors and engineers, and I don't think they see us
Speaker 3: as giving a whole lot back to the community. And
Speaker 3: I think for I was born in India and came
Speaker 3: here when I was a little kid, but you know,
Speaker 3: for the first generation, second generation now, I think it's
Speaker 3: important to see that, and you see that there are
Speaker 3: more Indian Americans in politics now, I mean everybody from
Speaker 3: Vivia Ramaswami to all of our local candidates that are
Speaker 3: front So I think it is having an impact and
Speaker 3: it should be about what we all do to make
Speaker 3: all of our lives a little bit better, and especially
Speaker 3: for the next.
Speaker 1: Generation, well, no question.
Speaker 2: And also we've had a rash of thirteen year olds
Speaker 2: being murderer or state law doesn't cover them to be
Speaker 2: tried as adults. And you see the end result of crime,
Speaker 2: and I'm told repeatedly by certain politicians that the crime
Speaker 2: rate is way down. When I watch NBC, ABC, CBS,
Speaker 2: local media, the stories they could cover crime all.
Speaker 1: Day, every day.
Speaker 2: You know, some of us have a sense, but doctor Somarco,
Speaker 2: you have the reality of the results of criminal activity.
Speaker 2: Do you think crime is down or are arrest down?
Speaker 2: Which is it or both?
Speaker 3: Is it arrests, is it convictions? Is it? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean from our perspective. You know, we had twenty
Speaker 3: five autopsies over the weekend, you know, between Friday and
Speaker 3: this morning. I you know, granted a lot of those
Speaker 3: were natural, but it doesn't feel like crime is down,
Speaker 3: and certainly when it comes to youth violence, it certainly
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like that to us. And I would have
Speaker 3: to sit and really look at the statistics. I think
Speaker 3: over the last ten years thirteen years I've been in office,
Speaker 3: our homicide rate for Hamilton County has been pretty steady
Speaker 3: and not significantly varied. I think it was about one
Speaker 3: hundred and five last year, so am I first started,
Speaker 3: it was around one hundred. So I don't think it's
Speaker 3: really changed a whole lot.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: Non death related crime has that increased. I think possibly.
Speaker 3: I mean, we certainly have been talking about the South
Speaker 3: American theft group that's been all over the news, and
Speaker 3: you know, that isn't actually something new, and since the
Speaker 3: visa waiver program went into place for Chili, and I
Speaker 3: don't know if you're aware of that really, but in
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, the State Department put into place a visa
Speaker 3: waiver program for Chili, and that's the only Latin American
Speaker 3: country that has a visa waiver to the United States.
Speaker 3: In other words, if you have a Chilean passport, you
Speaker 3: can travel to the United States without a visa. And
Speaker 3: you know that means that people can go back and
Speaker 3: forth readily and freely. I understand it was set up
Speaker 3: for trade, but this is this theft group has been
Speaker 3: a problem for quite a few years, and I don't
Speaker 3: understand why the State Department can't just shut it down
Speaker 3: and you know, help law enforcement and trying to control
Speaker 3: what's happening. But you know, certainly the non death related
Speaker 3: crimes have increased, and I think that goes along with
Speaker 3: some of the violent crime where deaths aren't involved has
Speaker 3: also increase, at least from what I can tell. So yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe we're making some headway in some ways, but I
Speaker 3: think we really need to work on our young people
Speaker 3: in the community, and I mean, we need to teach
Speaker 3: him the value life. And I think that a lot
Speaker 3: of the young people committing these crimes, they don't have
Speaker 3: that sense of valuing life. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's because, you know, people can blame COVID, people can
Speaker 3: blame you know, video games and being disconnected, and you
Speaker 3: can come up with a lot of things that might
Speaker 3: have brought us here. But I don't hear a lot
Speaker 3: of people talking about solutions.
Speaker 2: No, in fact, they're well intended. I'm thinking about Reverend Mingo,
Speaker 2: He's well intended. A lot of community meetings. Got to
Speaker 2: do this, got to do those involved. They're not in
Speaker 2: the meetings, they're outside the meetings. And it's a small
Speaker 2: number and a small percentage. Joe Dieters always told me
Speaker 2: that if he could take five hundred people out of
Speaker 2: the community, we'd have a few, if any crimes ever committed.
Speaker 2: Because it is a small number, doing a great number
Speaker 2: and reach those they'll come.
Speaker 3: To the meetings. There's no interest in being a part
Speaker 3: of the solution.
Speaker 2: No, they're not at the meeting and say, Okay, how
Speaker 2: can I reform my life? How can I value education?
Speaker 2: How can I get a job, how can I work?
Speaker 2: How can I support my family. Well intended individuals like
Speaker 2: Reverend Mingo or at these meetings, but those committing the crime.
Speaker 2: The five hundred out of maybe eight hundred thousand residents
Speaker 2: in Amlin County are not there. They're doing other stuff
Speaker 2: and they couldn't care less, and you can't reach that group.
Speaker 2: I don't think it takes you.
Speaker 3: Know, as long as it's more lucrative to commit crimes,
Speaker 3: I think you're going to have a hard time getting
Speaker 3: people to buy into, you know, getting an education and
Speaker 3: getting a decent job. You know, when I remember going
Speaker 3: to a murder in Finley Market in the Findy Market
Speaker 3: area one day, and it was a nineteen year old
Speaker 3: and you know, he was faced down when we got there.
Speaker 3: We rolled them over and he had you know, bulges
Speaker 3: in his pockets and we pulled stuff out and it
Speaker 3: was over twenty five dollars in cash. And no, you know,
Speaker 3: he's nineteen, and you know what he was doing on
Speaker 3: the street and it certainly wasn't doing a job. Maybe
Speaker 3: maybe if selling drugs is a job, but you know,
Speaker 3: he got caught in in crossfire between you know, one
Speaker 3: gang versus another gang who are trying to maintain their territory.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't have a solution. Some
Speaker 3: days it's very depressing, but we keep.
Speaker 2: Doing what we're doing, Doctor Samarco, thank you. I know
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get lots of text now from pit bull
Speaker 2: owners telling me how ridiculous you and I are, but
Speaker 2: that goes with the territory. Doctor Samarca, you're the best
Speaker 2: of what you do. Promise me as long as I'm
Speaker 2: on the radio, you'll be the county corner.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, how long is that really?
Speaker 1: Four more years?
Speaker 3: Well guess what, I was just re elected, so I
Speaker 3: guess you're in luck. Four more years.
Speaker 2: We'll get you that d to Somarco, you're a great American.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: OK here bye and gentlemen. That's the best there is
Speaker 2: right there, doctor lastmis Marco. Let's continue with more Bill
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Speaker 1: Bully Cunningham, the great American.
Speaker 2: Of course, Reds Baseball kicks off right here about two
Speaker 2: thirty five this afternoon. Redgs did a number on the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: So see what happens today. They're all all the positive
Speaker 2: information coming out of Arizona's really great. In fact, there
Speaker 2: are some experts that have picked the Reds to win
Speaker 2: the Central Division because let's face the Milwaukee has been down.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Cubs spend a lot of money,
Speaker 2: but there's still the Cubs and the Cardinals are on
Speaker 2: the downtick along with the Pirates, and the Reds remain
Speaker 2: and Tito Francona, I think think is the missing ingredient,
Speaker 2: much much like a loop Panella in nineteen ninety was
Speaker 2: the missing ingredient to put the Reds over the top.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens there after one o'clock today,
Speaker 2: we have Curtis Hawk with you and I of NewsBusters
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Speaker 2: elsewhere is every day they record everything NBCABCCBS and PBS
Speaker 2: and they relate to you what the media says to you,
Speaker 2: what's going on. I've said to you in many times,
Speaker 2: in many places, garbage in, garbage out. There's a chunk
Speaker 2: of the American people who only received their mainstream media
Speaker 2: news from NBCABCCBSPBS and newspapers, which are far left wing
Speaker 2: radical in their origins, and nothing has changed. In fact,
Speaker 2: he points out that over a thirteen day period, the
Speaker 2: headline NBCABC, CBS Evening News did a total of less
Speaker 2: than one hundred and five seconds on the savings of Doge.
Speaker 2: That is, Doze is saving this country from itself. And
Speaker 2: I just listen, it's still going on. As I look
Speaker 2: to my left, the first cabinet meeting of the President
Speaker 2: and Elon Musk is there talking about sending out notices.
Speaker 2: Is some two million federal employees. By the way, the
Speaker 2: majority do good work, show up and do their job.
Speaker 2: There's another chunk of federal workers who do not show
Speaker 2: up and do not do their job. And he has
Speaker 2: said that as many as half a million federal workers
Speaker 2: have not responded to an email saying are you there
Speaker 2: and tell us what you've done the past week or so.
Speaker 2: Give us five things that you've done in your job.
Speaker 2: And Elon Musk and the President made the point about
Speaker 2: half an hour ago that maybe these workers don't exist,
Speaker 2: maybe they're made up, Maybe it's a bot, because in
Speaker 2: some agencies ninety five percent do not show up to
Speaker 2: work anyway. And I don't blame them in a sense
Speaker 2: because Joe Biden told them don't show up for work,
Speaker 2: and before he left office about eight months ago, Joe
Speaker 2: Biden extended their ability to work from home until the
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty seven. It's like, well, you kind of
Speaker 2: have to show up to do your job. Ask people
Speaker 2: at iHeartMedia, you got to show up. You've got to
Speaker 2: do your job. You got to be here. And so
Speaker 2: what's happening is that there's a chunk of federal employees that,
Speaker 2: according to Elon Musk, does not exist. That they're a bot.
Speaker 2: They get a paycheck. Same thing with purveyors and suppliers
Speaker 2: of government services. There are literally tens of millions of
Speaker 2: businesses large and small who provide services to the federal government.
Speaker 2: How many actually exist? How many are a ploy or
Speaker 2: a plot to steal money from you? And this relates
Speaker 2: to a big column which I'm going to share parts
Speaker 2: of it with you now. I love the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2: About eighty percent of the time, headline in the commentary
Speaker 2: section is this America's future depends on doge. In other words,
Speaker 2: if this can't be done now to cut back on
Speaker 2: the growth of the federal government and the expenses thereof,
Speaker 2: we're out of business. The two things that would destroy
Speaker 2: this country are being attacked with alacrity by Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: One is the southern border, and right now the crossings
Speaker 2: are down ninety five percent. And because they're down ninety
Speaker 2: five percent, EISK has configured to take the five percent
Speaker 2: to get across the southern border and hold them into tens,
Speaker 2: then send them back to their host country and give
Speaker 2: them a report date for a hearing on refugee status
Speaker 2: maybe three to five years from now. And when you
Speaker 2: look at the various passes from the trilateral countries in
Speaker 2: Central America, in New Mexico, the Mexican president has told
Speaker 2: President Trump that she will stop it at the source.
Speaker 2: And so when you stop on the southern border, those
Speaker 2: individuals from Nicaraguay, l Salvador, Venezuela, Bogatade, Columbia, et cetera.
Speaker 2: That's a huge part of the problem. And right now
Speaker 2: it's down to a trickle from fifteen thousand a day
Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty day. Fifteen thousand to one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty that's a ninety nine percent reduction. And
Speaker 2: those who do make it across, they can quickly say, Okay,
Speaker 2: you're from where Okay, we're going to have a put
Speaker 2: you into tention, and then we're going to ship you
Speaker 2: back to your home country. And this is how to
Speaker 2: apply to become a refugee in our country, which is
Speaker 2: very limited the great majority who claim refugee status. By
Speaker 2: the way, it doesn't work. And so America's future depends
Speaker 2: on dose. You're thinking to myself, is that a bit
Speaker 2: Is that a bit extravagant?
Speaker 1: The answer is no.
Speaker 2: Countless presidents and countless cabinet secretaries have come and gone
Speaker 2: with the intention of changing the system. These cabinet secretaries
Speaker 2: and their deputies get nice pensions, They get huge, big,
Speaker 2: well appointed offices, They have a nice portrait and social status.
Speaker 2: They have unlimited budgets to travel. But the bureaucrats know
Speaker 2: under these appointees that this is all temporary and easily
Speaker 2: can be ignored. And I've played for you previously the
Speaker 2: clips beginning with Ronald Reagan and then Bush forty one
Speaker 2: and then Clinton and Gore, all talking about government has
Speaker 2: bloated too many employees. In the last twenty five years,
Speaker 2: we've gone from one point six million federal employees to
Speaker 2: two point three million, which is a fifty percent increase.
Speaker 2: In the last several years, government continues to grow. The
Speaker 2: bureaucracy has ballooned from a few agencies up to more
Speaker 2: than four hundred, many of which call themselves independent of
Speaker 2: the president. And we often viewed the president as responsible
Speaker 2: for the actions the agencies take, but not really. No president,
Speaker 2: none has cracked this nut. Most reforms of the administrative state,
Speaker 2: large and small, have been promised and never delivered.
Speaker 1: So how can we deal with the problem.
Speaker 2: And he's only been in office, what about six weeks
Speaker 2: since January twentieth to day the twenty six to February,
Speaker 2: so it's been about five and a half six weeks
Speaker 2: that bureaucracies rule everything, beginning with law enforcement, the FBI
Speaker 2: and the CIA and the Department of Justice.
Speaker 1: And we know, and they know, if you.
Speaker 2: Run a foul of the FBI or the Department of Justice,
Speaker 2: they can lock you up and put you in jail
Speaker 2: for long periods of time. So those in charge of
Speaker 2: the so called bureaucracy, the political appointees, are somewhat frightened
Speaker 2: by the FBI and by the Department of Justice. It's
Speaker 2: why voters like you and I trust in the system
Speaker 2: is eroded to a very low level. In fact, as
Speaker 2: far as solving governmental problems, it's about fifteen to twenty percent.
Speaker 2: Fifteen to twenty percent of us say, you know what,
Speaker 2: we turn the government to solve big problems. That's what
Speaker 2: we want done. And guess what, no problems are not solved.
Speaker 2: We owe each person living in America. If you're in
Speaker 2: a family of four, that family of four owes about
Speaker 2: a half of million dollars. That's your share of the
Speaker 2: national debt half a million dollars a family of four.
Speaker 2: Each person owes about one hundred and ten thousand dollars
Speaker 2: per person, and it's increasing. The goal is to cut,
Speaker 2: by the end of Trump's term, maybe the second of
Speaker 2: three terms, as much as one trillion dollars out of
Speaker 2: the two trillion dollar net national debt and make up
Speaker 2: for the difference of a trillion dollars through tariffs.
Speaker 1: That's the plan.
Speaker 2: It may work, it may not work, But as the
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal points out today in their column, if
Speaker 2: it doesn't work, now we're done. The country at some
Speaker 2: point will have to follow bankruptcy. We will disavow our debt,
Speaker 2: which means the value of our dollar will plummet, which
Speaker 2: means we'll take many, many, many more dollars to buy
Speaker 2: any product, goods, or services, and we're going to enter
Speaker 2: a great depression from which we will not soon exit.
Speaker 2: The last great depression took us about ten years to
Speaker 2: get out of, and this one's going to take a
Speaker 2: lot longer because the dollar will be completely worthless if
Speaker 2: we don't do it. And Elon Musk made that reference
Speaker 2: earlier today, saying, you know what, this is something that
Speaker 2: must be done. And as far as popularity of doing this,
Speaker 2: the policies of Donald Trump are very, very, very very
Speaker 2: popular among the American people. When asked whether or not
Speaker 2: there should be a crackdown on the southern border crossing
Speaker 2: by illegals, seventy percent of US say yes, do something
Speaker 2: on the southern border that makes sense seventy eight percent.
Speaker 2: When it's said deporting illegal criminals, the numbers about eighty
Speaker 2: eight percent. So if you commit a crime in this
Speaker 2: country and you're not deported, there's twelve percent of US
Speaker 2: Americans think, well, that's okay, keep them in the country.
Speaker 2: Eighty eight percent of US say don't do it. So
Speaker 2: almost all the policies implemented by Donald Trump up to
Speaker 2: this point are extremely popular with the American people on
Speaker 2: the southern border relative to going after inflation, relative to
Speaker 2: cutting the fat, waste and abuse in the federal government,
Speaker 2: eighty five percent of Americans say, yes, we know there's
Speaker 2: too many federal employees doing too much. I watched this
Speaker 2: morning with Jim Kramer on CNBC and Joe kernin and
Speaker 2: they head on a head of Wells Fargo who said
Speaker 2: he can identify at least six federal government agencies that
Speaker 2: want to regulate banks, six different agencies. Each of them
Speaker 2: have thousands and thousands of employees looking every day for
Speaker 2: something to do. He said, we don't know all the
Speaker 2: regulators that come at us. We refer the emails and
Speaker 2: the Texas to our legal department, which is growing ever larger,
Speaker 2: to respond to the request of the bureaucracy, which takes
Speaker 2: away their ability to loan people money at low prices
Speaker 2: because the government's interfering with them. When the government tas
Speaker 2: to Ford Motor Company, that wink wink, non nod. Jim Farley,
Speaker 2: the president of Ford Motor, that if you lose five
Speaker 2: billion dollars per year in evs at Ford, we're going
Speaker 2: to reimburse you.
Speaker 1: Wink wink. Non nod.
Speaker 2: Guess what, it didn't happen. So Ford Motor Company lost
Speaker 2: about five point two billion dollars on evs in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, but they made five point six billion dollars
Speaker 2: on combustible engines and hybrids, which means they had a
Speaker 2: small profit. And the Farley Ford Motor Company said in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, we're probably going to lose another five
Speaker 2: or six billion dollars on evs. The implication was, well,
Speaker 2: we were told by the Department of Energy and by
Speaker 2: Joe Biden Kamala Harris, we'll take care of that for you.
Speaker 2: But guess what, they're not in charge anymore. There's a
Speaker 2: new sheriff in town, and his name is Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: and he's not going to reimburse companies who've lost all
Speaker 2: that money. Everywhere I look, there's nothing but problems and
Speaker 2: deficits and difficulties that this president is committed to improving,
Speaker 2: beginning with the size of the federal government. Cutting that
Speaker 2: is a very popular idea among the American people, and
Speaker 2: returning to the States things like the Department of Education,
Speaker 2: which spends about one hundred and fifty billion dollars a year,
Speaker 2: with some ninety two thousand employees measured ninety two thousand employees,
Speaker 2: ninety five son of whom work from home. In charge
Speaker 2: quote of public education in the United States of America.
Speaker 2: You could take half that money, disperse into the states
Speaker 2: to the Department of Education in each state and say,
Speaker 2: here are literally billions of new dollars to spend to
Speaker 2: make sure that fourth graders can read. I note also
Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal there's many students in Hartford, Connecticut,
Speaker 2: Hartford public schools that are suing the federal government because
Speaker 2: they were promised in education and they so called graduate
Speaker 2: without the ability to read their diplomba because they can't
Speaker 2: read and they can't write coming out of the Hartford
Speaker 2: public schools. That is a sad story in Cincinnati and
Speaker 2: Covington and Dayton. Talked to Denny from Dayton. The public
Speaker 2: schools in Dayton are terrible, much like Cincinnati or Columbus,
Speaker 2: or Toledo or Youngstown or Chicago. Public schools are awful.
Speaker 2: There ought to be, and there was, beginning with Bush
Speaker 2: forty three, a fourth grade promise that by the time
Speaker 2: your kid is to the fourth grade, that's we'll be
Speaker 2: able to read and write.
Speaker 1: And it didn't happen. Nine to eleven happened.
Speaker 2: Bush forty three got sideways with a bunch of other
Speaker 2: issues that bureaucracy continue to grow. And every time there
Speaker 2: was failure by the public school system, guess what they did.
Speaker 2: They increase funding, more programs, hiring thousands more people to
Speaker 2: find out why a fourth grader cannot read and a
Speaker 2: fourth grader cannot write. I've said many times that the
Speaker 2: parent a good mom or a good dad. I had
Speaker 2: one of each, and it's that parents job to produce
Speaker 2: a six or seven year old who can read and
Speaker 2: write and function. Because in your home that's the way
Speaker 2: it works. But in rural America and in urban America,
Speaker 2: it doesn't work that way. So how about increasing the
Speaker 2: funding to the states by eliminating the Department of Education,
Speaker 2: and then with strings attached, there must be results. And
Speaker 2: the number one thing to do, of course, is school choice.
Speaker 2: If you tell parents in the Cincinnati public school system,
Speaker 2: you can take your voucher to Our Lady of Victory,
Speaker 2: or to All Saints, or to Saint Gertrude's, and you
Speaker 2: can use that state voucher and have your child educate
Speaker 2: it in a different system with results. I think many
Speaker 2: parents would do it and it would change the system
Speaker 2: for the better. There is no hope unless we change
Speaker 2: for the financial health of this country to survive. And secondly,
Speaker 2: now that Trump's in charge of the southern border, it
Speaker 2: must be institutionalized. And I told Dave Keaton and others,
Speaker 2: my producer, if this is a four year, four year interlude,
Speaker 2: that after these four years of Trump, that JD. Vance
Speaker 2: loses the presidency in twenty twenty eight, and then what
Speaker 2: happens at that point, someone like Kamala Harris takes over.
Speaker 1: Then we're done. It's over.
Speaker 2: So congratulations to Donald Trump. You're doing exactly the kinds
Speaker 2: of things the American people want you to do, especially
Speaker 2: on the southern border, especially like cutting the growth of
Speaker 2: god government. And the next one is where the real
Speaker 2: money is is medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. And end
Speaker 2: the defense spending. We spend nine hundred billion dollars a
Speaker 2: year in defense. If there's ten percent waste, fraud and
Speaker 2: abuse in the Department of Defense, that's almost one hundred
Speaker 2: billion dollars in one department. All right, let's continue. After
Speaker 2: one o'clock today, he comes with the receipts Curtis Hawk
Speaker 2: of of RealClearPolitics dot com, also of NewsBusters dot org
Speaker 2: and after two o'clock is your Friend and Mine?
Speaker 1: Richard K.
Speaker 2: Jones being interviewed this morning by NBC Nightly News and
Speaker 2: Lester Holt to talk about what's happening in Butler County.
Speaker 2: They have a deal now with ICE that for something
Speaker 2: like sixty eight dollars a day they will house, clothes
Speaker 2: and feed, provide medical and dental services to ICE detainees
Speaker 2: until the ship back to their home country. Let's continue
Speaker 2: with more line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 2: seven thousand. Bill cunning him the Great American Live, but
Speaker 2: to some of the reds with you today about two
Speaker 2: thirty five all A News Radio seven hundred WLW my
Speaker 2: Billy Cunningham is Great American Court meeting the Research Center
Speaker 2: and U Clustions dot org with the headquarters for Curtis House,
Speaker 2: and what they do is chronicle every day, every week,
Speaker 2: every month, every five minute what's happening in mainstream media because,
Speaker 2: let's face it, garbage in, garbage out.
Speaker 1: About forty percent of.
Speaker 2: Americans receive almost all their news from ABCCBS and NBC
Speaker 2: plus PBS and if you get the bad information in,
Speaker 2: you get bad results out. And the goal of the
Speaker 2: media should be to inform the electorate about important issues
Speaker 2: so they can cast an informed ballot when it comes
Speaker 2: time to vote. That's not exactly what's going on in
Speaker 2: Curtis House with NewsBusters dot Org, the executive director. Welcome
Speaker 2: again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Before we talk about
Speaker 2: DOGE coverage, and you have some great stats here from
Speaker 2: February the eighth until February twenty fourth, what a sixteen
Speaker 2: day period that ABC, CBS, NBC spent a total of
Speaker 2: one minute and fifty three seconds covering the taxpayer savings
Speaker 2: by dose. In other words, they didn't cover it at all.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, we have the PBS thing coming up.
Speaker 2: But before we go there, I have listed after list
Speaker 2: of mainstream media types that have lost their job and
Speaker 2: lost their way, whether it's a Leicester Holt or a
Speaker 2: Laura O'Donnell, or a Chuck Todd or a Joy Reid
Speaker 2: and others on MSNBC plus. The view is going to
Speaker 2: be rained in when they're cast adrift by ABC News.
Speaker 2: Just from your perspective, what has happened to the collapse
Speaker 2: of mainstream media and as a consequence, is that good
Speaker 2: or bad for the American people?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's interesting to see all of these
Speaker 5: people suddenly just lose their voices and think that, you know,
Speaker 5: they're going to go to substack or wherever else. And
Speaker 5: I know in some of these cases, a lot of
Speaker 5: it's cost cutting in the case of Leicester Holt more
Speaker 5: or less retiring, or O'Donnell stepping away Hoe to coffee,
Speaker 5: leaving this Today Show right before the inauguration. In all
Speaker 5: of those cases, the reporting, particularly with Pucks still in
Speaker 5: Buyers or liberal journals, done the less. But his newsletters
Speaker 5: are pretty thorough and substantivity is great sourcing say that, Hey,
Speaker 5: guess what, twenty million dollars a year for some of
Speaker 5: these network news anchors. Yeah, that's just completely unreasonable, Like
Speaker 5: it's not reasonable, it's not feasible, it's it's just it's
Speaker 5: not sustainable for the bottom line based on the product
Speaker 5: that they are putting out and the bias and how
Speaker 5: people have tuned them out. So these folks instead of
Speaker 5: just saying, oh, I'm going to retire openly, they're suggesting
Speaker 5: that they're writing off to the sunset, I need to
Speaker 5: spend more time with my kids, whatever else in the
Speaker 5: case that people like Joy read. I mean, she is
Speaker 5: the most toxic, venomous person in maybe cable news history.
Speaker 5: I mean, she has been incredibly, horrible, divisive. She was
Speaker 5: a DEI hired to begin with because Chris Matthews was
Speaker 5: meted by this woman named Lauren Bassett and she was
Speaker 5: given a show I believe in twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 5: you know, she didn't really earn this, and so as such,
Speaker 5: her ratings have not been great. She struggled to maintain
Speaker 5: an audience, and now she's blaming racism or her supporters
Speaker 5: are blaming racism for her losing her job, even though
Speaker 5: she's being replaced by a panel show by two people
Speaker 5: who are black and the other is Hispanic. So that's
Speaker 5: kind of funny there. So I think in this Media
Speaker 5: Landscape bill, the real reality is it is it's cough cutting,
Speaker 5: and I think it's the recognition of some of these
Speaker 5: network executives that do we want this person or that
Speaker 5: person to be the face of our brand, because I
Speaker 5: remember MSNBC is spinning off or being spun off by Comcast,
Speaker 5: so it's going to have to stand on its own
Speaker 5: to you know, two legs with the NBA, seeing a
Speaker 5: few other cable networks and trying to sell itself to advertisers.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure what your read's been putting up is
Speaker 5: not what most Americans want.
Speaker 2: So in five or ten years, if you and I
Speaker 2: would get together, talk radio will be here, podcast will
Speaker 2: be here, websites will be here. Newspapers the idea of
Speaker 2: cutting down a tree somewhere in Minnesota, putting it on rivers,
Speaker 2: giving it to a mill, then creating the pulp, and
Speaker 2: then giving it to a processor, and then put making
Speaker 2: paper and then putting ink on it.
Speaker 1: That whole thing is gone. It doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: I think the Wall Street Journal in New York Times
Speaker 2: not the only two papers in the country. Washington Post
Speaker 2: loses one hundred million dollars a year. So from media
Speaker 2: sources you have, the newspapers are gone. Television, big time
Speaker 2: news is collapsing. People don't believe it. Did they cause
Speaker 2: their own demise? Do you think the left wing media
Speaker 2: and did they do it to that? Was this suicide
Speaker 2: or homicide? I say suicide.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's definitely suicide. I mean it is a
Speaker 5: complete refusal to accept outside criticism. You know, in my career,
Speaker 5: I've had a number of journalists block me. I've never
Speaker 5: called them any names. I've merely written stories with the
Speaker 5: full transcript of their news reports and said, here's what's
Speaker 5: wrong with this segment. Here's where they don't do not
Speaker 5: present an opposing viewpoint, or they.
Speaker 6: Leave out certain facts, and you get blocked for it.
Speaker 6: You know, you talk.
Speaker 5: About politicians having thin skin and being insecure, journalists are
Speaker 5: by far National journalists are by far the most thin
Speaker 5: skin profession in America. It's not on planet Earth. They
Speaker 5: are so averts to outside criticism. We saw this during
Speaker 5: the first Trump administration. Chants of fake news were treated
Speaker 5: like death threats, and which is just ridiculous and a
Speaker 5: refusal from the liberal media to accept that the First
Speaker 5: Amendment also applies to us. It's not just about you guys.
Speaker 5: So this has been entirely self inflicted. And I think
Speaker 5: too we may have talked about the past, that is,
Speaker 5: the liberal media have shown a lack of respect.
Speaker 6: It's not just about not.
Speaker 5: Showing or carrying other viewpoints. It's when they do, they
Speaker 5: don't show respect. They do not treat viewpoints with dignity,
Speaker 5: and I think American people see that as such and
Speaker 5: when you see that, I'm not being listened to, I'm
Speaker 5: not being respected, I'm being dismissed as rubes, racist, sexist,
Speaker 5: homophobes and all those things.
Speaker 6: Who would want.
Speaker 5: To listen to this every day unless you're like some
Speaker 5: sort of weird masochiss I don't.
Speaker 1: The fact is, I've been talking about this for years.
Speaker 2: The mainstream media, NewsBusters dot Org, Mini Research Center, a
Speaker 2: bunch of others actually do the work to have the
Speaker 2: facts that over a sixteen day period there was little
Speaker 2: or no reporting on those taxpayer savings. I've said for
Speaker 2: years that two things that destroy this country is unbridled
Speaker 2: southern border invasions bringing with the disease, third ward poverty
Speaker 2: grinding into America. The Milton Friedman in one of my
Speaker 2: four heads on the mount Rushmore Conservatism, Milton Friedman said,
Speaker 2: you can't have an existing first world country with a
Speaker 2: border wide open with millions of unwashed masses coming in
Speaker 2: that whose labor is not needed and their cost of
Speaker 2: survival are going to be very high. And secondly, the
Speaker 2: second aspect the taxpayer savings is the federal deficit of
Speaker 2: that accumulated debt thirty six trillion dollars is unbridled, and
Speaker 2: so because it's an important issue, you have a column
Speaker 2: up censored. ABC, CBS, and NBC spent less than two
Speaker 2: minutes on dose taxpayer savings.
Speaker 1: And this wasn't just over a week.
Speaker 2: Sixteen days of coverage from February the eighth through February
Speaker 2: to twenty fourth, they spent a total of one minute
Speaker 2: and fifty three seconds on it. To break it down,
Speaker 2: ABC News spent the least amount of time, which is zero.
Speaker 2: NBC spent twenty six seconds on taxpayer savings. CBS spent
Speaker 2: a minute in twenty seven which is unbelievable. And the
Speaker 2: key of what's happening is we can have a two
Speaker 2: trillion dollar annual deficit and a thirty six trillion dollars
Speaker 2: accumulated debt and survive as a country. But they don't
Speaker 2: give the information to the American people as to why, uh,
Speaker 2: these taxpayer saidmentes are required. Please relate the findings of
Speaker 2: your study.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, yeah, the top one two in
Speaker 5: the addition to one minute, fifty three seconds that it
Speaker 5: really only actually applies to CBS and NBC because ABC
Speaker 5: was completely asleep at the wheel. This is one of
Speaker 5: those things bill, where the liberal media will try to deny, deny, deny,
Speaker 5: and they may eventually be forced into admitting it's true.
Speaker 5: You know, you see this as well with the border.
Speaker 5: You not, you're not really seeing a ton about the
Speaker 5: border now compared to what we did before. Maybe there's
Speaker 5: a reason for that, of course, maybe it's because things
Speaker 5: are going well, and you know, they'll eventually be forced
Speaker 5: to admit it. If ever, and I think some of
Speaker 5: this might happen with dose. They're trying to shame people
Speaker 5: into this concept that oh, they're doing too fast and
Speaker 5: they're going to make mistakes. And maybe all of those
Speaker 5: things could be true, but the liberal media don't want that.
Speaker 5: They disagree with the notion at all of doing anything
Speaker 5: completely with doing anything to cut the size of government.
Speaker 5: You notice how in these segments about federal workers they
Speaker 5: find just the right person who was laid off, who
Speaker 5: seems like they did something that even a small government
Speaker 5: conservative would say is something the government should be involved with.
Speaker 5: The networks have done stories about the National Park Service
Speaker 5: and the National Forest Service recently, and on Tuesday Night,
Speaker 5: the CBS Evening News joined the others who have done
Speaker 5: segments in the past that those is going to ruin
Speaker 5: your summer vacations to the national parks. And heck, guess
Speaker 5: what bears may now eat you might eat you now
Speaker 5: because there's not parks strangers to be able to save you. Well,
Speaker 5: I mean, that's so deperate.
Speaker 2: The headline is CBS doze is going to get you
Speaker 2: eat eaten by bears the story, and then right below
Speaker 2: that is the story about PBS. I find it amazing
Speaker 2: that PBS Public broadcasting TV and radio, and many markets
Speaker 2: like New York City has eight or nine PBS radio stations.
Speaker 2: In one city they employed literally one hundred thousand people.
Speaker 2: It costs five hundred million dollars a year minimum, and
Speaker 2: it's generally bad radio or bad TV that we paid for.
Speaker 2: And why why hasn't that come up more forcefully? I
Speaker 2: know you have a campaign in Washington now with the truck,
Speaker 2: but explain what's going to happen to PBS in the future.
Speaker 1: By that, I mean the next six months.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I'm so glad you started with that
Speaker 5: premise all about about the affiliates, And what's funny is
Speaker 5: like in Boston there's two affiliates and they're indistinguishable. The
Speaker 5: programming is the same, you know, like the call letters
Speaker 5: are different. I'm sure the signals are relatively similar. They're
Speaker 5: both based in Boston. Like how is that, how does
Speaker 5: that accomplish anything?
Speaker 6: Like what level?
Speaker 5: Why is that level of redundancy necessary? And so that's
Speaker 5: just one of the TACs that we're taking. One of
Speaker 5: the five reasons of my colleague Tim Graham, who's been
Speaker 5: covering this since twelve before I was born. He started
Speaker 5: covering this kind of stuff in the late eighties, has said,
Speaker 5: is why PBS and NPR need to be defunded. Folks
Speaker 5: can follow our brand new ex account defund PBSNPR all
Speaker 5: one word on x It's a clearinghouse, yes on NewsBusters.
Speaker 5: In the MRC, we have our we still share all
Speaker 5: of our blogs and Facebook pages as well our PBS
Speaker 5: NPR content, but you can go there for one stop
Speaker 5: shop of all of our PBS and PR content, and
Speaker 5: we really encourage folks to check that out and then
Speaker 5: focus on the DC local reddit, the little message board
Speaker 5: chat room website. The local DC section is already freaking
Speaker 5: out about this truck. They're just lose their absolute minds
Speaker 5: and into this. We all say you are welcome to
Speaker 5: give as much money as you would like to PBSSR.
Speaker 5: We are merely saying, not us. We should have a
Speaker 5: saying whether our money goes there.
Speaker 2: I think talk radio would love to get five hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars a year in government subsidies. But if you
Speaker 2: want to give and to your heart's content, have added
Speaker 2: and it doesn't happen. And I just I assume in
Speaker 2: the next year that's going to be the funded. I've
Speaker 2: heard this for the last thirty years. It's never happened
Speaker 2: under Bush, under Bush, under of course, under Reagan, or
Speaker 2: under the first term of Donald Trump, or no Democrat
Speaker 2: because that was left as propaganda paid for by the
Speaker 2: government and they only give one story. There's no more
Speaker 2: left wing organization in America, more left wing than PBS.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's awful.
Speaker 2: Now, lastly, before I let you go, you have a
Speaker 2: great column up about Dan Bongino, who, by the way,
Speaker 2: is a great American. I've had them on several times,
Speaker 2: and the headline is ABC, CBS, NBC lose their minds
Speaker 2: over Trump picking Dan Bongino for FBI post. And you
Speaker 2: have exactly what CBS News anchors are now saying. The
Speaker 2: two new anchors are talking about this Maurice Jaba and
Speaker 2: also what's his name, and they go after Dickerson, John Dickerson.
Speaker 2: They go after him hard because Dan Bongino is unqualified.
Speaker 2: And you have an army followers of millions of talk
Speaker 2: radio and podcast listeners who devote time to Donald Trump
Speaker 2: and the Dan Bongino who think this is a great pick.
Speaker 2: So the media once again garbage in, garbage out. You
Speaker 2: hear this about someone you may not know a lot about.
Speaker 2: But why does this again show left wing media bias.
Speaker 5: It's so ridiculous, Like, first of all, they're treating his
Speaker 5: service in the time in the Secret Service and is
Speaker 5: a New York City police officer like I don't know,
Speaker 5: he was like bagging groceries and then became deputy FBI directors,
Speaker 5: Like you know, it's it's really ridiculous. They mentioned these things,
Speaker 5: but then they're like, well, he doesn't have any experience
Speaker 5: in the agency. And you know, the FBI Agents Association
Speaker 5: had demanded the cashpital and President Trump pick a career
Speaker 5: agent and they didn't pick a career agent. Well, yes,
Speaker 5: career agents. The permanent bureaucracy is part of the problem.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's why he did this, you know, CBS Evening
Speaker 5: News went as far as to suggest that the moves
Speaker 5: made by Cash Hotel and Dan Bongino could put the
Speaker 5: country's now security at risk because they're responsible for stopping
Speaker 5: care attacks, and this idea that they're emptying out or
Speaker 5: whittling down the number of people who work in Washington,
Speaker 5: DC at headquarters and sending them to field offices is
Speaker 5: upsetting morale and it's gonna somehow like hurt like crime fighting,
Speaker 5: Like are you kidding me? Oh, it upsets morale and
Speaker 5: it hurts people's feelings that they're gonna have to go
Speaker 5: somewhere out to real America and they're gonna have to
Speaker 5: actually work. They probably will still make the same money.
Speaker 5: Hey guess look, guys, actually your dollars will go farther
Speaker 5: by not being in the Washington, DC area. So this
Speaker 5: should be viewed as a positive. But of course it's
Speaker 5: not the well, because we're supposed to feel bad for
Speaker 5: people like Andrew McCabe, who's so sad that you know,
Speaker 5: one of the people who succeeded him is Dan Bongino.
Speaker 5: It's ridiculous they call him a blockatur election denier, all
Speaker 5: those kind of crazy things, but not actually looking at
Speaker 5: what he knows about the agency, whether he actually cares
Speaker 5: about the agency, which he does, cares about finding crime,
Speaker 5: which he does. They just see these folks as Trump
Speaker 5: lackeys who will do literally anything and everything and destroy
Speaker 5: the country, put people in camps, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing, fifteen years ago, Barack Hussein Obama
Speaker 2: as president picked Dan Bongino to protect him, former New
Speaker 2: York City cop, secret Service agent. He knows where the
Speaker 2: bodies are barried. He's a great guy. Put him with
Speaker 2: Cash Patel. Then that's reform. And of course, when I
Speaker 2: hear about Elon Musk not being confirmed by the Senate,
Speaker 2: not in the cabinet affecting public policy, one name comes
Speaker 2: to mind. That's doctor Anthony Fauci, who was not in
Speaker 2: the cabinet. He did affect public policy. He was not
Speaker 2: confirmed by the Senate. And this guy fundamentally, and so
Speaker 2: many others of the past have fundamentally affected public policy
Speaker 2: who were not confirmed by the Senate. They were not
Speaker 2: in the cabinet and they affected public policy. But one
Speaker 2: rule applies to Fauci, but a different rule applies to
Speaker 2: Elon Musk.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what this is. It is kind
Speaker 5: of amazing you hear these protests, government worker protests build
Speaker 5: that like, oh, we love serving the American people, we
Speaker 5: answer to the American people. Well, how do you actually
Speaker 5: answer to anyone? You know, we're just supposed to trust you.
Speaker 5: It is really amazing to see so many of these
Speaker 5: liberal journalists who get all warm and fuzzy inside and
Speaker 5: drills up their legs thinking about Watergate, about holding the
Speaker 5: powerful two account, have turned into only giving aid and
Speaker 5: comfort to the powerful. They trust everything the career government
Speaker 5: officials tell them because they're their friends, instead of holding
Speaker 5: into account and.
Speaker 2: The other thing ninety five percent don't show up for.
Speaker 2: But that's a different issue. But NewsBusters, Curtis Halk, you're
Speaker 2: the best there is and that I'd encourage people to
Speaker 2: go to the website constantly and get the truth, the
Speaker 2: old truth, and nothing but the truth.
Speaker 1: At least it's unvarnished.
Speaker 2: In fact, you have up the actual words of the newscasters,
Speaker 2: the actual words of the columnists that you can judge
Speaker 2: for yourself what's right, what's wrong. Curtis Halck, once again,
Speaker 2: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and Curtis, you're.
Speaker 1: A great American.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you. Bill.
Speaker 2: All right, let's continue with more. The truth will set
Speaker 2: us all free. Garbage in from the media and garbage out.
Speaker 2: Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLW.
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Speaker 2: I think it sounds like the cowboy once beat talking
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Speaker 7: How about the Angels Dodgers? Is that his pre pregame
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Speaker 7: in Cincinnati called Sheldon Braun at braun Heating get five one, three, three, eight, five,
Speaker 7: seventy seven sixty five. But and as you said last night,
Speaker 7: Willie Gisel James with eighteen points Dylan Mitchell had at thirteen.
Speaker 7: The Bearcats knock off the Baylor Bears sixty nine sixty seven,
Speaker 7: So Cincinnati's still in the hunt at seventeen and eleven
Speaker 7: on the season. Ballett Hall was the site last night
Speaker 7: as the Miami RedHawks beat up on Northern Illinois eighty
Speaker 7: seven to fifty eight. The RedHawks are twenty one and
Speaker 7: seven on the season. Pat Kelsey and his number nineteen
Speaker 7: Louisville Cardinals are twenty two and six after winning at
Speaker 7: Virginia Tech seventy one sixty six. Now tonight, well dayton
Speaker 7: at Rhode Island, number seventeen, Kentucky faces the Sooners of Oklahoma,
Speaker 7: and Ohio State plays late on the West Coast up
Speaker 7: against Southern cal See.
Speaker 2: What happens there? Anything new about Mick Crohn and coaching
Speaker 2: in the end of the Hoosiers.
Speaker 1: Haven't heard a thing. He's very happy.
Speaker 7: I think he's getting ready for his next game with
Speaker 7: the Bruins.
Speaker 1: You know he's dating Halle Berry.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean you broke that international story the other
Speaker 7: day and everybody's but Inside Edition is reporting it.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Now both of them are singles, so have at it.
Speaker 2: They're in their fifties. Why not enjoy each other's companies
Speaker 2: and charms.
Speaker 7: Soccer Tonight willie Round two of the Champions Cup TQL
Speaker 7: Stadium and the beautiful West End is the site. FC
Speaker 7: Montagua out of Honduras will face FC Cincinnati six o'clock.
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Speaker 7: had talks with Trey hendrickson.
Speaker 1: Weird what about the new hat set on our hands?
Speaker 7: Now, if they get those three done, that will show
Speaker 7: that will make number nine very happy and the fans
Speaker 7: very happy.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 2: T Higgins put up an emoji indicating you might be
Speaker 2: leaving because you didn't believe what he's hearing, because the
Speaker 2: reality of the negotiations are not exactly where the media
Speaker 2: is reporting. According to Rocky Boyman and according to T. Higgins,
Speaker 2: please continue Red's update.
Speaker 7: After a day off yesterday, the Reds are back in
Speaker 7: the Cactus League today against those La Angels. Nick Lodolo
Speaker 7: will make us first spring start. The he lost like
Speaker 7: twenty pounds.
Speaker 6: Really.
Speaker 7: Coverage begins to two thirty five of the Arnold carriers
Speaker 7: inside pitch. Then after the game, it's the Hot Stove
Speaker 7: League live from Arizona after six oh five right also
Speaker 7: here on seven hundred WLW. The winning lineup today for
Speaker 7: Tito Francona, McLean, LUs DLC Steer, Stevenson, Cees, Benson Hines
Speaker 7: and also fair.
Speaker 1: Child who's playing first base? If anyone cees? How about
Speaker 1: third base?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: That is Gavin Lux Okay, kind of the A team.
Speaker 1: They beat the Dodgers, what eight to one?
Speaker 7: Eight to one the other day. Austin Hayes. That's a
Speaker 7: pretty good uh so far. I mean, he got what
Speaker 7: six RBIs he lit him up yesterday or the or
Speaker 7: two day on Monday. So but I mean, you know,
Speaker 7: it's it's a it's spring training, so you just go
Speaker 7: day to day. And he had a good day and
Speaker 7: they just move on.
Speaker 1: Did the Dodgers play anyone? I think they had a
Speaker 1: few guys out there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't think, well I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember if he was in
Speaker 1: the lineup or not. Please continue. Uh that's about all
Speaker 1: I got, Willie. Let's see, uh the playing who they playing,
Speaker 1: and they're playing? And what FC is playing?
Speaker 7: The second round of the Champions Cup. Now, they beat
Speaker 7: Montagua in Honduras a week ago, four to one. Then
Speaker 7: they play him again tonight in the first round. It's
Speaker 7: a home and home in the first round. If they
Speaker 7: get by tonight, then they'll go. They'll move on to
Speaker 7: this Champions Cup to yet another team.
Speaker 1: It could be.
Speaker 7: It could be an international team that's in it, or
Speaker 7: it could be an MLS team. But uh, then you
Speaker 7: know they play tonight and then Saturday. FC Cincinnati's on
Speaker 7: the road at the Philadelphia Union in the MLS. So
Speaker 7: these guys are playing soccer like every third or fourth night.
Speaker 1: It's like unbelievable. So they're not in the MLS right now.
Speaker 1: They're playing this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're in the MLS because they beat the Red
Speaker 7: Bulls the other night one nil. That was their opener
Speaker 7: Saturday night. Now they come back with this Champions Cup.
Speaker 7: Is kind of like a in season tournament that they
Speaker 7: usually do in soccer with these individual champions. I guess
Speaker 7: Montagua is a U was in the champions of the
Speaker 7: Honduras League or something or one of them. And well,
Speaker 7: I mean FC whipped him four to one, so probably not.
Speaker 7: Now what about Acosta? Did he go back home to
Speaker 7: South America?
Speaker 6: Is No?
Speaker 7: Acosta got traded to FC Dallas. Oh, and they're very
Speaker 7: happy I think with what they got because Kevin Denke
Speaker 7: is a good player. And also they got Evander from
Speaker 7: the Portland from the no they got Evander from the
Speaker 7: Portland Timbers for that record deal deal of twelve million dollars.
Speaker 7: You know, mister Linder there, the owner of the soccer team,
Speaker 7: is making moves and getting it done.
Speaker 2: He's writing checks for twelve million. Could you want a
Speaker 2: check for twelve million dollars?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, you could write it, but it bounce correct.
Speaker 7: Yeah, right right, it would bounce right down like a basketball.
Speaker 1: You couldn't either. I didn't write a twelve million dollars check,
Speaker 1: but I mean they they want.
Speaker 7: I mean, this guy is like Evander is one of
Speaker 7: the top they say, one of the top five players
Speaker 7: in the MLS, and they got him now in the
Speaker 7: Orange and Blue.
Speaker 1: Kevin Dankey came over and they got a couple other guys.
Speaker 7: So I guess you know, mister Acosta will be a
Speaker 7: vivid memory if these guys starts scoring. So we'll see
Speaker 7: what happens. He was the best player of the FC
Speaker 7: ever had, and hopefully also Brenner. Brenner was a good
Speaker 7: player when they had him. So but he went, he
Speaker 7: went back home to Mexico.
Speaker 2: Oh seg I read something, maybe it was from on
Speaker 2: a blog, but the top two or three memories athletically
Speaker 2: that I had were like cutting down the nets at
Speaker 2: Deer Park's great victory over the team from Columbus right
Speaker 2: in the championship. What are your two or three memories
Speaker 2: covering sports going back to the late nineteen seventies, what
Speaker 2: two or three stands out in the minds of the
Speaker 2: segment that was really exciting.
Speaker 7: Let's see Willy going each year to the Kentucky Speedway,
Speaker 7: going for about thirty years to the cover of the
Speaker 7: Indianapolis five hundred Bob Jenkins correct, and well, thirty six
Speaker 7: years into radio booth with Marty and Joe. That's a highlight.
Speaker 7: And just you know, a kid from White Oak and
Speaker 7: Monfort Heights getting a you know, you get a Red's pass,
Speaker 7: you get a Bengals pass. And I can't count the
Speaker 7: a number of players that you you come in contact
Speaker 7: with on a daily basis and they know you.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: About I talked about, of course, deer Park winning the
Speaker 2: state title, undefitted untitles on scored on right Columbus. The
Speaker 2: Nubians of afro Centric beat him up easily by ten points, yep,
Speaker 2: cutting down the nets, running around like a nut, and
Speaker 2: somebody from Spectrum saying, who's that guy with a net
Speaker 2: around his deer Park thirty it's true, But also nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety wire to wire the rest.
Speaker 7: Well, and then you know the and then forty one
Speaker 7: ninety two, the night that happened. I mean, being around
Speaker 7: Pete all those years and everything else, and and and.
Speaker 1: He knows your name. I mean the grade eight knew
Speaker 1: my name.
Speaker 7: I mean like, I mean I just sit there sometimes
Speaker 7: well and go it's you know, and and they still do,
Speaker 7: I mean they still you know, you see him every
Speaker 7: you know a few years in that but uh yeah,
Speaker 7: I wasn't really much of an athlete and uh at
Speaker 7: Cole Rain or nothing like you were a star art
Speaker 7: star athlete at Deer Park and I didn't do I
Speaker 7: didn't I didn't do too much of that. But uh,
Speaker 7: I just got the radio bug like junior senior year
Speaker 7: at Cole Rain and we were at a ten watt
Speaker 7: radio station w n s D, and uh we we
Speaker 7: did the afternoon show and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: you know, hit the the bug happened at n k
Speaker 7: U and here I am.
Speaker 1: Well another is.
Speaker 7: And and the top of the thank you, the top
Speaker 7: of the list there Willie is. Ken Griffy Jr. Never thought,
Speaker 7: I mean, I've met a lot of superstars, but he's
Speaker 7: number one on the list.
Speaker 1: He is a good yet.
Speaker 2: If possible with Dale Earnhardt or Ken Griffy Jr. If
Speaker 2: you had to choose between Earnhardt and Griffy Jr. And
Speaker 2: Pete Rose, who would you choose of those three?
Speaker 1: Well, Ken Griffy Jr.
Speaker 7: Would want to go with me with Dale Earnhardt because
Speaker 7: he's a big NASCAR fan. That's how that's how we
Speaker 7: got to know each other pretty good. Of arguing every
Speaker 7: Monday with after Sunday's race. We would go, we would
Speaker 7: end up. I would end up in his locker and
Speaker 7: arguing with him over what happened in the race. So,
Speaker 7: I mean, I've seen Pete Rose a lot of times
Speaker 7: and everything else, But you know, I mean, like I said,
Speaker 7: I mean, if if Junior, if Junior was on that list,
Speaker 7: if Junior wanted to do that, he said, I want
Speaker 7: to go see I want to go have lunch with
Speaker 7: Dale Earnhardt.
Speaker 1: Never got to meet him. I wish I did, but
Speaker 1: never got to meet him.
Speaker 2: The other thing about Pete is a day with a
Speaker 2: few hours with Pete.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious.
Speaker 7: Well, a few minutes with him is match. I mean,
Speaker 7: just I mean just sit there and talk to him
Speaker 7: about anything. I mean, you know, I mean every and
Speaker 7: and and he knew about everything. He knew about the
Speaker 7: he knew about obviously baseball, he knew the the basketball,
Speaker 7: he knew football. I mean, anything you ask him, he
Speaker 7: was He was like an expert.
Speaker 2: At Yeah, the basket, you knew everything about Betty Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2: All right, segment, Well, okay, go ahead. We had no
Speaker 2: hope a week or two ago with Xavier and with
Speaker 2: UC now.
Speaker 7: They got a big one against Creighton on Saturday. Well,
Speaker 7: he will see what happens when Blue Jays come here.
Speaker 7: If they can get by that one, I think they're
Speaker 7: in it past the Blue Jays. He's got an opportunity.
Speaker 2: Now, yes they do, which I don't think they've played
Speaker 2: Baylor since nineteen forty six or something.
Speaker 7: But UC's got to go to Houston on Saturday, and
Speaker 7: I think they're ranked in the top five in the nation.
Speaker 2: What if you see beach Houston without Elvin Hayes, what
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 7: Well, then I think the Bearcats would be very happy,
Speaker 7: and I think their resume would be right there.
Speaker 2: They would be in and I want them to do it.
Speaker 2: I want this all right segment, get me out of
Speaker 2: the Student's Report. After two o'clock today, it's Richard K. Jones.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I may not know it, but Lester.
Speaker 2: Holt in the NBC Nightly News has saddled up into
Speaker 2: the Butler County Sheriff's Department since ten o'clock this morning.
Speaker 2: What and they're doing stories? I call it a hit
Speaker 2: piece on Richard K. Jones and will Jones be able
Speaker 2: to withstand in the NBC Nightly News might be on
Speaker 2: tonight or tomorrow. But NBC doesn't like the fact that
Speaker 2: Richard K. Jones is accepting Ice detainees and collecting sixty
Speaker 2: eight dollars per prisoner per night to benefit the taxpayers
Speaker 2: of Butler County like you, segment, So we got him
Speaker 2: coming up after two o'clock.
Speaker 1: Of his time. All right, the sheriff's the best, and
Speaker 1: he's hilarious.
Speaker 7: Willia and outer of the Reds and Angels coming up
Speaker 7: here at about forty five minutes. Red's Baseball back on
Speaker 7: seven hundred WLW. We leave you with the immortal words
Speaker 7: of the Stoode Report.
Speaker 1: We will bring championship baseball to Cincinnati. Well, they beat
Speaker 1: the Dodgers segment eight to one. That's right there, you go.
Speaker 7: See they beat the Dodgers last year too in the
Speaker 7: regular season, right yeah, regular season series.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I won a dinner for dinner for four
Speaker 2: of us through Paul O'Neal when the Reds went to
Speaker 2: New York and swept the Yanks.
Speaker 7: Beat they were great against they were great against first place,
Speaker 7: arrest of them.
Speaker 2: That couldn't beat anybody, right, segment. The over under with
Speaker 2: the Reds. I think it's eighty one total wins. Are
Speaker 2: you betting over or under this season eighty one. I'm
Speaker 2: going over, I'm going I'm going under. You want to
Speaker 2: bet me a hot fud Sunday?
Speaker 1: Why not? On seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: By Billy Cunningham, The Great America, I had my sources
Speaker 2: all over Butler County and Warren County and Tenton County
Speaker 2: about what's happening.
Speaker 1: And you know, Sheriff Richard K.
Speaker 2: Jones has been at the forefront for many years and
Speaker 2: trying to stop the flow of immigration in this country,
Speaker 2: with limited success because it's not up to a sheriff
Speaker 2: and one of four thousand and counties to have immigration policies.
Speaker 2: But I read recently and maybe this morning in the
Speaker 2: Inquiry that Richard K. Jones has now been approved to
Speaker 2: accept the ICE prisoners at the rate of sixty eight
Speaker 2: dollars a day, and that things are changing just a
Speaker 2: little bit in Butler County and elsewhere.
Speaker 1: And Richard K.
Speaker 2: Jones, the Sheriff of Butler County, welcome again to the
Speaker 2: Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Plus a little Bertie in your.
Speaker 2: Office told me that NBC News was there this morning
Speaker 2: with Lester Hold, etc. And there's going to be a
Speaker 2: piece at some point on the NBC Nightly News about you.
Speaker 1: What was it? If anything?
Speaker 4: Hey, he wasn't here, but it's his crew, it's his show.
Speaker 4: And hew, they flew five people in and they're still
Speaker 4: not equal to fighting me by myself. But they come
Speaker 4: in and they're still not done. And it's all immigration.
Speaker 4: And I'm fine with that.
Speaker 6: Listen. I would never go.
Speaker 4: On that station. And I told him in the beginning
Speaker 4: that they're to me. They're like saying in but I
Speaker 4: can handle any questions you have and it's okay, bring
Speaker 4: them to me.
Speaker 6: And they have been.
Speaker 4: And one of the questions was when you charge them
Speaker 4: to come here, why are you so cheap by sixty
Speaker 4: eight bucks? And I said, well, I like to be
Speaker 4: cheaper in the country, like eggs. She thought she had me.
Speaker 4: Now this is doing their interview. She said, oh, you
Speaker 4: refer to people that are here illegally or people that
Speaker 4: are immigrants their words, as eggs in the country. Don't
Speaker 4: you feel bad over that? Do you have trouble sleeping
Speaker 4: at night? And I looked it right in the eyes,
Speaker 4: I said no, I sleep good. I said, matter of fact,
Speaker 4: I sleep too good. I sleep too much. Don't feel
Speaker 4: bad at all, And then I said, and that's a
Speaker 4: silly question to ask, but I expect that coming from you.
Speaker 4: So I hope they air that part.
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, it will not air.
Speaker 2: What they wanted to do was, you know, from east
Speaker 2: coast to the west coast up in Butler County in
Speaker 2: the middle they think of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Butler County is a great community.
Speaker 2: But in the middle of nowhere, let's go to this
Speaker 2: po dunk sheriff who pretends to wear a cowboy hat,
Speaker 2: and let's make them look foolish.
Speaker 1: That was their goal.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yes, they've not done well with that part.
Speaker 6: I promise. Look, this ain't the first time I've.
Speaker 4: Been interviewed by stations like that DNN, and on a
Speaker 4: one to ten I usually rate myself about a ten
Speaker 4: when I'm done, And the more they beat me up,
Speaker 4: the better my constituents like it.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the new deal. Can you tell the
Speaker 2: American people, Sheriff Richard K. Jones, what is the deal
Speaker 2: with ICE that was not in effect the last couple
Speaker 2: of years.
Speaker 1: What is the deal?
Speaker 4: Well, it's not been an effect for four years. We're
Speaker 4: going to be able to house prisoners here for ICE.
Speaker 4: They need the bed space, like yesterday. It's all been approved.
Speaker 4: We're waiting from a call from ICE. They wanted to
Speaker 4: know can we go from zero to one hundred like
Speaker 4: any day? And we said we could do it today
Speaker 4: if you need me. And they need space. They need
Speaker 4: space desperately. President Trump's pushing that throttle down every day,
Speaker 4: every minute. So what we and everything changes daily with
Speaker 4: this stuff because they don't have bedspace and they need
Speaker 4: it fast. And with us, we've alfered the one hundred
Speaker 4: right away, two hundred soon after that, and can go
Speaker 4: up to three hundred, and I'll be shocked if they
Speaker 4: don't fill those beds up that quick. Plus we're going
Speaker 4: to help with deportation. Plus we're going to do immigration
Speaker 4: court here. And we've been inspected two times in the
Speaker 4: past two weeks by ICE and their inspectors passed everything.
Speaker 4: Commissioner signed off on it, Prosecutor Mike Moser signed off
Speaker 4: on it. We're ready to go, and the wheels are
Speaker 4: greased on the bus and people ask me, well, why
Speaker 4: why in Ohio's Butler County doing this? Listen, I've had
Speaker 4: in the past four years. I've had fourteen hundred inmates
Speaker 4: in my jail in the last four years that are
Speaker 4: here from other countries, and that are here illegally, and
Speaker 4: they've committed two thousand crimes too fat local crimes and
Speaker 4: murder assault. So if you think illegals aren't already here,
Speaker 4: you're badly mistaken. They're all over the country. Everybody's a
Speaker 4: border state, a border county. They're shipping in the fent
Speaker 4: and all to kill us. And when these people come
Speaker 4: and ask you about poor pitiful men, and people in
Speaker 4: the community are concerned. Look, if you're here illegally, you.
Speaker 6: Don't have to be concerned.
Speaker 4: No. I look at it this way.
Speaker 6: Bill.
Speaker 4: If you think it's okay to come here illegally, if
Speaker 4: somebody come in your house while you were sleeping and
Speaker 4: they just came in, sat down on your couch, you
Speaker 4: didn't know who they were, would you let them in here?
Speaker 4: Would you be glad they.
Speaker 6: Were in the house.
Speaker 4: No, You've got to ask permission.
Speaker 6: To go in somebody's house.
Speaker 4: When you go to somebody's damn country, you've got to
Speaker 4: ask for permission, and they've not done that.
Speaker 6: I look at it.
Speaker 4: The equivalent is coming into your house and you've not
Speaker 4: been invited. We have a system here in this country where.
Speaker 6: You get invited when you come in.
Speaker 4: You just can't come in when you want, like just
Speaker 4: go in your neighbor's house and not ask them. So
Speaker 4: I think that's a decent analogy myself.
Speaker 2: Sheriff, you went over quickly those numbers in Butler County
Speaker 2: is of course a medium sized county relative to counties
Speaker 2: in California, New York, Florida, Texas.
Speaker 1: It's a small county.
Speaker 2: I would assume this about three hundred thousand people that
Speaker 2: live in Butler County if you look at other counties
Speaker 2: like Los Angeles County in Los Angeles has fourteen million people,
Speaker 2: and so the tip of the iceberg would be Butler County.
Speaker 2: You want of those numbers quickly, how many provable crimes
Speaker 2: of illegals have been committed the past four years and
Speaker 2: tell the American people that number.
Speaker 4: Again, two thousand crimes have been committed in Butler County
Speaker 4: with thirteen to fourteen hundred illegals in the past four years.
Speaker 4: And that's a lot of mount But I'm going to
Speaker 4: go over so many amounts, basically driving offenses, four hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty two violations of court orders, one hundred and
Speaker 4: eighty six crimes involving kids forty seven falsifying information, obstruction
Speaker 4: to sixty five sex offenses, almost one hundred drunk and
Speaker 4: alcohol offenses, five hundred and one violent offenses, six hundred
Speaker 4: and twelve thefts, one hundred and forty seven other offense,
Speaker 4: weapons forty six, on and on and on in Butler County,
Speaker 4: and imagine what it is in Hamilton County. And it's
Speaker 4: just both in the whole state of Ohio, they're here already,
Speaker 4: and Butler County. They're all over the country.
Speaker 6: Everybody's at border state.
Speaker 4: We're the seventh largest of eighty eight counties in Ohio.
Speaker 4: A population here is four hundred thousand, and we're going
Speaker 4: to do our part to get them out of here.
Speaker 4: When people ask, well, you're you're charging sixty eight dollars
Speaker 4: and I I said, is that enough? I said, no,
Speaker 4: probably need to charge thousands of dollars.
Speaker 6: And it wouldn't be enough.
Speaker 4: I said, what's enough when somebody you're the victim of
Speaker 4: somebody that was murdered, raped, or died.
Speaker 6: A sentinel, what's enough?
Speaker 4: Doesn't sound like that's enough at all. And I said,
Speaker 4: in the last fourteen months, we've lost money. We can't
Speaker 4: make up what this country has lost. So pretty simple, Bill,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: I did some simple math.
Speaker 2: Butler County is about five percent population of the state
Speaker 2: of Ohio, about five percent. There's about twelve million Ohio ons,
Speaker 2: and so you're talking about maybe a five percent, and
Speaker 2: so in Butler County has kind of a tough law
Speaker 2: and order approach. I can only imagine in the eight
Speaker 2: urban counties in Ohio that number of two thousand crimes
Speaker 2: and fourteen hundred legals times about that's five percent. Take
Speaker 2: that times twenty. You're talking maybe forty five thousand crimes
Speaker 2: with maybe as many as six thousand illegals in the
Speaker 2: state of Ohio. And you can only imagine what Florida,
Speaker 2: Texas mean, what New Mexico, what it looks like.
Speaker 1: It is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: In fact, Thomas tom Homan, head of the Deportation Squad,
Speaker 2: said there's seven hundred thousand criminal aliens inside of America
Speaker 2: who've been convicted of crimes that are still on the loose.
Speaker 2: Seven hundred thousand that the media tell us this is
Speaker 2: not a problem.
Speaker 4: Listen those ones in Ohio. You just figured out how
Speaker 4: many hundreds of millions of dollars do you think that's
Speaker 4: costing court, jail, prison time. And how did hundreds of millions?
Speaker 6: Now, how do you.
Speaker 4: Put a price on the death and mayhem that they've
Speaker 4: cost to the victims? What kind of price do you
Speaker 4: put on that? So and listen, they're coming from Canada
Speaker 4: just as much as they're coming from Mexico and the drugs,
Speaker 4: the smuggling of people. The whole system's broke. The President's
Speaker 4: got a lot on his plate and he's kicking it
Speaker 4: in the bus. But listen, we're all here, we're all fighting.
Speaker 6: The same thing. But remember again, you can't.
Speaker 4: Just walk in somebody's house in the middle of the
Speaker 4: night and think it's okay. You can't just walk into
Speaker 4: this country and think it's okay. And it's not gonna work.
Speaker 6: People have had enough. They're tired, sheriff.
Speaker 1: And another thing for the residents of Butler County.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many millions of dollars the federal
Speaker 2: government's going to pay Butler County. But isn't it a
Speaker 2: benefit not just to the citizens of Butler County when
Speaker 2: it comes to personal safety, which is important, but also
Speaker 2: when it comes to money in a sense, is this
Speaker 2: found money for the taxpayers of Butler County.
Speaker 4: Sure, this it helps pay for my local prisoners, my
Speaker 4: incarcerated local prisoners. Hey, listen, and they it's it's a
Speaker 4: benefit to all of us, and it benefits getting these
Speaker 4: people out of here.
Speaker 6: I don't look.
Speaker 4: When they asked me, Bill, hey, these people commit no
Speaker 4: different crimes than the local people do. And I said,
Speaker 4: that's correct. But I don't need these other countries dumping
Speaker 4: their trash over here in Butler County or the United
Speaker 4: S States to commit crimes. And hell, if I could
Speaker 4: deport some Americans from my jail, I would, but no
Speaker 4: country would take them.
Speaker 6: Bill.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: In fact, right now, according to the Trumpster I watched
Speaker 2: an hour ago his first Cabinet meeting, they were going
Speaker 2: to build thirty thousand beds in Guantanamo to house illegal
Speaker 2: criminals to deport them. Now they're not going to do
Speaker 2: it because of self deportation. And secondly, they're flying directly
Speaker 2: to their host country citizens who commit a crime in
Speaker 2: this country. And even the Trumpster now has Venezuela and
Speaker 2: Colombia sending their jets to pick up their criminals and
Speaker 2: transport them back to Caracas and back to Bogatah, where
Speaker 2: they came from. That's unbelievable. And so and I'm watching
Speaker 2: NBC Nightly News not reporting that kind of stuff either.
Speaker 6: I bet look forty forty different countries.
Speaker 4: Right off the bat, they're sending them back. We're living
Speaker 4: in something. Remember he's been here less than thirty six days.
Speaker 4: That's how long he's been putting it seems like five years.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, and the ice people are moving so fast. They
Speaker 4: have Behi people. Let's hey, they've just been in those
Speaker 4: jobs a short time and listen, it's just going to
Speaker 4: take a while, but we're going to get it done.
Speaker 4: And I'm going to be right on the razor's edge
Speaker 4: with it, I promise.
Speaker 2: And about two men's remaining sheriff, that's going to be
Speaker 2: a delicate issue. Because I head on David Yost about
Speaker 2: two weeks ago. He's a good man, the attorney General.
Speaker 2: I like him a lot. And then I head on
Speaker 2: Viveke Ramaswami on Monday, and he is a rock star
Speaker 2: in front of the crowd. He had two thousand show
Speaker 2: up there in Westchester. You did not appear with him,
Speaker 2: and your guys are there for security or whatever. But
Speaker 2: you're going to be in the middle of this thing.
Speaker 2: At some point, whether it's Yost or vivike Ramaswami, they're
Speaker 2: going to come up to Sheriff Richard K. Jones and
Speaker 2: say who do you support? Butler County is a terribly
Speaker 2: important Republican county. If you made any selections at this
Speaker 2: point between David Yost and vivike Ramaswami, sure I did.
Speaker 4: I made that selection a year ago. I supported and
Speaker 4: still do mister Yost, who's the Attorney General. I made
Speaker 4: that commitment a year ago when Levet wasn't in it
Speaker 4: and Hellett was Houston and mister yos So no.
Speaker 6: I made that.
Speaker 4: Commitment a year ago, So I'm still there with that commitment. O.
Speaker 2: Lastly, whoever the nominee is of the Republican Party, I
Speaker 2: assume you'll support that person and the voters will decide
Speaker 2: that sometime like in April of next year in the primary. Now, lastly,
Speaker 2: do I have it right, Sheriff that there's two county
Speaker 2: jails in the region to house ice detainees. That's Boone
Speaker 2: County and Butler County. All the other sixteen counties could
Speaker 2: jump in if they wanted to, but Boone County stepped up.
Speaker 2: Butler County stepped up to do it and the other
Speaker 2: ones have not. Do I have that correct? There's two counties,
Speaker 2: and ice jurisdiction is as complete in Indiana, Kentucky, and
Speaker 2: Ohio as it is anywhere else.
Speaker 1: So are there only two facilitators?
Speaker 4: No, there's another one. I think Seneca County. I'm not
Speaker 4: for sure. I think they house seventy inmates, if I'm
Speaker 4: not mistaken. They were housing thirty, and then when we
Speaker 4: got out of the business, they went up to seventy.
Speaker 4: But we're going to go up to as much as
Speaker 4: three hundred if they need it. So we'll be the
Speaker 4: largest facility in the state of ohonan if not that,
Speaker 4: we're surrounding states housing icey tamings.
Speaker 2: Do you know when this interview is going to air
Speaker 2: on NBC Nightly News is a dateline? You know what's
Speaker 2: going to air? I'd love to watch that.
Speaker 4: They basically said, could be tomorrow, could be the next day,
Speaker 4: could be a week from now, don't up.
Speaker 6: They're moving rather.
Speaker 4: Fast, and depends how fast and what's going on in
Speaker 4: the United States. So they've got five people here they'll
Speaker 4: be working it. And I've been with them for two
Speaker 4: hours and I'm going back, probably do another two hours
Speaker 4: for probably a short second, probably.
Speaker 2: Come out to like ninety seconds, and the interview you
Speaker 2: for hours. Pick out the pieces of the interview that
Speaker 2: fits their prejudice and ignore the rest.
Speaker 1: You know, you know how that game is played.
Speaker 6: Hey, I've been there before.
Speaker 1: Man, Now not your first roadie. All right, Richard K.
Speaker 2: Jones, you're the best, And once again, thank you for
Speaker 2: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and Sheriff.
Speaker 1: You're a great American.
Speaker 6: Thank you, my friend.
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