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<v Speaker 1>This is the 77 wabc minicast.

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<v Speaker 2>The first shift the great shift welcome to the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of midnight dave scott canadian what was the worst

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<v Speaker 2>vacation you ever had.

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<v Speaker 3>Every staycation I was forced to take by Rogers Media

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<v Speaker 3>Company because they didn't pay me enough to put money

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<v Speaker 3>away to actually have a true vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever people say, well, you know, I think I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>stay home and have a staycation, I know they're broke.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I will never have another staycation in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to have too many of them when I

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<v Speaker 3>worked in radio back in the... 90s and early 2000s.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just figured, you know what, from now on,

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<v Speaker 3>why waste my time sitting at home twiddling my thumbs

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<v Speaker 3>when I could at least be getting paid for it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think by federal law, federal Canadian law, that if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in radio, you're working in radio, you don't go

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<v Speaker 2>on vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Rogers used to force us.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, travel.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not allowed to travel. No, a smart company will

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<v Speaker 2>make you take the vacation. What I've said to my

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<v Speaker 2>friends is you've got to understand they're paying you to

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<v Speaker 2>take time off. Therefore, it must be very important. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>you should do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought about it that way. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know people, big jobs, who don't take vacation. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't take vacation because I love my job. No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>It has nothing to do with liking or not liking

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<v Speaker 2>your job. Everybody needs a different perspective and a break.

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<v Speaker 2>And even if you're very serious about your vacation, you

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<v Speaker 2>will learn something about yourself or about the world that

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<v Speaker 2>will help you do your job. And especially if you travel,

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<v Speaker 2>I am so glad that I took a trip. This

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<v Speaker 2>was the sweetest trip. I took a trip to the

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<v Speaker 2>Park Hyatt across from that spectacular theater in Sydney, Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>at the Sydney Harbour, at the Park Hyatt, overlooking the

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney Harbour. I was there for 10 days because I

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<v Speaker 2>had so many hotel points and so many American airline

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<v Speaker 2>points that the whole trip cost me $ 800 for the rent-a-car.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just great. But I learned a great

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<v Speaker 2>deal because I listened to Australia Radio. And the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing I heard on Sydney Radio was, number one talk

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<v Speaker 2>station in Sydney, 2GB, their big star. I turn on

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<v Speaker 2>the radio, and I hear him cursing. And cursing in

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<v Speaker 2>ways that if you or I did, we'd be fired.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's legal in Australia. And you know what? Nobody died.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody in Sydney was reported dead because they heard a

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<v Speaker 2>guy cursing on the radio. Isn't that amazing?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, it literally is. Nobody died. That amazes me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're trying to, instead of using proper English, we

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<v Speaker 3>have to make up these terms like unalive and pew-pews

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<v Speaker 3>for guns. You know, it's ridiculous how that's going. That

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<v Speaker 3>they're censoring us on social media and other places because

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<v Speaker 3>words can hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, what's the name of your FCC? I just

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<v Speaker 2>slipped my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>The CRTC.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting at a convention. the Canadian Music Week convention,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the best convention I've ever been to. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting next to a member of the CRTC on

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<v Speaker 2>a panel. And they're going over things that they had

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<v Speaker 2>to censor. And he's going, da-da-da, and when we did this,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Power Rangers.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, what?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there was an incident with the Power Rangers. We

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<v Speaker 2>were afraid it would incite violence in children. I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at him in front of 500 people. I said, That's

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<v Speaker 2>a cartoon. And the place went crazy. They went crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an idiot. Your CRTC, the guy was saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we've censored a cartoon. It's a cartoon. It's silly what

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<v Speaker 2>they get excited about. And throughout history, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the standards change. They move. Our culture changes. To put

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<v Speaker 2>in absolutes about what you can and can't say, always

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<v Speaker 2>at some point makes you look ridiculous because it has evolved.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucy and Desi could not sleep in the same bed

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<v Speaker 2>is the favorite example. And I love Lucy. They couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>sleep in the same bed.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, hopefully we grow up a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, my friend. All right, Dave Scott, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you have to report from outer space?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a new UFO poll out put up by Gallup.

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<v Speaker 3>the famous polling station, and every few years, about every

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<v Speaker 3>70 years, they do this poll about whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>Americans believe the government is withholding UFO information. The question,

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<v Speaker 3>in your opinion, does the United States government know more

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<v Speaker 3>about UFOs than it is telling us? Now, in 1996,

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<v Speaker 3>it was 71% yes, 19% no, and 10% had no opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>Those numbers switched a little bit in 2019, going down

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<v Speaker 3>to 68% yes, 29% no, and 2% no opinion. Fast

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<v Speaker 3>forward to today, it is now 78% of all Americans

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<v Speaker 3>believing that the government is playing shenanigans. I'm using that

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<v Speaker 3>word again two nights in a row because I know

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<v Speaker 3>you like it. Shenanigans. with UFOs. No 17% people don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe that there's anything UFO-related here, and 5% is no opinion. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this is an incredible stat that it really goes to

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<v Speaker 3>show that the American public is starting to pay attention

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<v Speaker 3>to the whole UFO subject, and especially that we may

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<v Speaker 3>not be alone in the universe. It's the highest number

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<v Speaker 3>that I've ever seen at 78%. So good on you,

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<v Speaker 3>United States, for starting to believe that the aliens are

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<v Speaker 3>here and maybe are going to bring us some toast.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it match your numbers, what you believe?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was going to be around 55-60%, to

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<v Speaker 3>be honest. I mean, to be over three-quarters... of the

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<v Speaker 3>United States believing this. I think the disclosure movement, it

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<v Speaker 3>means that it's moving forward on a public level. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't mean the government is going to come out

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<v Speaker 3>with any sort of disclosure, but the American public's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're probably there. It also gives me hope that we're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to see a bunch of wingnuts go crazy

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<v Speaker 3>if all of a sudden the president comes out and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we are not alone in this universe.

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<v Speaker 2>My concern is that Let's say the files that have

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<v Speaker 2>been released so far, and there's nothing. In fact, as

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<v Speaker 2>you pointed out and you revealed, one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>files is a Walter Cronkite interview of an astronaut that

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<v Speaker 2>was aired on the secret network known as CBS. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's how ridiculous they've been. But let's say that's it,

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<v Speaker 2>that all the files that are going to be released

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<v Speaker 2>are are in fact all of the files, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that's in there. If that's the case, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's the absolute truth, the government will never be able

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<v Speaker 2>to sell it. We won't believe that that's the absolute truth.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, and it comes down to the technology, which

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<v Speaker 3>is why I'm very staunch on reminding people there is

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<v Speaker 3>a huge difference between UFOs, and what the government is

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<v Speaker 3>calling UAP, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. My sources over the years

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<v Speaker 3>have told me that UAP are man-made objects, man-made objects

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<v Speaker 3>being from drones to any sort of weather balloon or

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<v Speaker 3>anything that could be flying in the sky. And as

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<v Speaker 3>long as we're discerning what is right from wrong, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to give up the UFO story because they

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<v Speaker 3>got their UAP story to cover it up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting how many people who used to work in

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<v Speaker 2>the government come out and say, yeah, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff there. There are alien bodies. There are aliens alive.

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<v Speaker 2>There's technology. They come out. They reveal it. They say

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<v Speaker 2>it's true. And then they don't talk anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we get that all the time. And it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like they just want to get that off their chest.

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<v Speaker 3>That way they can say that they did their little part.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they are on their last breaths on this planet,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe that they are just tired of the secrecy.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe they worked for government agencies where they saw things.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is all possible. I mean, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more people, like you always hear the argument, Walter, well,

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<v Speaker 3>if it was really out there, more people would speak up.

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<v Speaker 3>More people are afraid of their nondisclosure agreements than their pensions,

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<v Speaker 3>their social security checks, what could happen to their families,

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<v Speaker 3>than they are about talking about UFOs. And the last

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<v Speaker 3>thing they want is to be ruined financially because they

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<v Speaker 3>spoke when they should.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I shared some of that letter I sent to

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<v Speaker 2>you and Ross. A listener wrote in saying, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to be very careful what I say about technology and

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<v Speaker 2>that the government might have. I didn't say the person's name.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say what their job had been. But this

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<v Speaker 2>piqued your interest quite a bit. Why are you so

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<v Speaker 2>interested in that note?

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<v Speaker 3>Three little letters that they used to work for.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it. Do you think it's legit?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it could be somebody who's fear-mongering. The only

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<v Speaker 3>way we're going to find out is if Ross and

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<v Speaker 3>I are able to talk to the person.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope you can, because it would be... There

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be two better reporters, and I would feel very

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<v Speaker 2>safe with both of you making that call because you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to trip anything, and you're going to find

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<v Speaker 2>out information. I think it would be very exciting and interesting. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>more importantly, do you have any Sasquatch information?

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<v Speaker 3>Not tonight. I'm taking a week off my Sasquatch, but

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<v Speaker 3>I do have something for you. Because last night you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of threw– a quick story that you wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>do because you're going on the air Saturday morning. Yes, please. Yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>You wanted a number of people, a few people to

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<v Speaker 3>put together a panel about alien abduction, people who have

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<v Speaker 3>been taken. Man, have I got a panel for you coming.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so this Saturday, bonus track, usually I don't

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<v Speaker 2>work Saturday morning, but this weekend I'm working Tuesday. Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>they had some scheduling challenges and asked Walter Sterling if

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<v Speaker 2>he could step up and help the family. And the

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<v Speaker 2>answer is yes, of course. And I thought, well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>make something special, something promotable. So something special is we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have on a panel of abductees. And Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Scott has put it together. Dave, tell us about this panel.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's four people coming on with you, Walter.

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<v Speaker 1>Fabulous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, a lady named Beth, who is... She doesn't like

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<v Speaker 3>to call herself an abductee. She likes to call herself

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<v Speaker 3>a contactee, who has had contact numerous times over the decades.

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<v Speaker 3>A lady named Nicole is coming on. You're going to

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<v Speaker 3>love her. I could actually see you bringing her on

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<v Speaker 3>as a guest frequently, because she's so well-versed in the

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<v Speaker 3>UFO world. After having her own personal experiences from ports

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<v Speaker 3>putting aliens scaring her dog inside her house to missing time.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Rutledge from MUFON in Phoenix is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>joining you. He's an abductee who is able to summon

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<v Speaker 3>down UFOs. And Grant Baker, my UFO reporter, is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be joining you. So that way he could tell

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<v Speaker 3>you about his missing time and UFO experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be fantastic, and you and I will talk

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<v Speaker 2>and coordinate how to do it, but my plan is,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a three-hour show, my plan is to have them

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<v Speaker 2>on for about two hours and really tell their stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Take the time, take us there, what it felt like, everything, beginning, middle,

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<v Speaker 2>and end, and what the result has been in their lives,

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<v Speaker 2>in their thinking, in their view of the universe. Does

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<v Speaker 2>that sound like a good plan?

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<v Speaker 3>It does, and I will tell you that Nicole's She

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<v Speaker 3>is so excited to finally chat with you. She listens

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<v Speaker 3>every night when I'm on the air with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole, I'm really sorry, but you've got to do something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Get ice cream or something, Nicole.

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<v Speaker 3>She eats peanut butter at night.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even want to know how you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she told me. She's one of my best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, good. And she's been listening to you since

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<v Speaker 3>you were on KMOX a long, long time ago. So

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<v Speaker 3>she's been listening to you for years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic. We're still on KMOX every night. I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>KMOX right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I know. And that's where she tunes in to

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<v Speaker 3>listen to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I am the king of the 50 clears, Dave.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that means. I'm way too Canadian

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<v Speaker 3>to understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>You have 50 clears, like CFRBs have 50 clear. 50,000-watt

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<v Speaker 2>signal without limits.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. All right, you're my friend, Dave Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I will talk tomorrow. We're going to coordinate that,

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<v Speaker 2>make it work. I'm very excited. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>an entire show with abductees Saturday morning. Great shift, the

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<v Speaker 2>first shift, and really give them the time to tell

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<v Speaker 2>their stories. Dave Scott, SpacedOutRadio.com. YouTube, every show he's ever done, spacedoutradio.com,

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of Midnight,
