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Speaker 3: Dogmanencounters dot com Forward slash podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so

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Speaker 3: much for joining us for another livestream episode of Dogman

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Speaker 3: Encounters Radio. I really appreciate you tuning in. On last

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Speaker 3: week's show, our guest Kim came on and told us

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Speaker 3: about a horrific encounter he had where a dog man

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Speaker 3: in December, and if it wouldn't have been for his

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Speaker 3: heroic American bulldog Dallas, there's a strong possibility that he

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Speaker 3: might not be here today. Well, due to time constraints,

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Speaker 3: particulars of his encounter, but we ran out of time.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have a chance to ask him the multitude

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Speaker 3: of questions that I've got for him. So luckily he's

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Speaker 3: agreed to come back on and answer those questions that

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Speaker 3: I had and answer your questions from the live chat

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Speaker 3: as well well, without further ado, Let's bring him in

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Speaker 3: here now and get him in so we can do

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Speaker 3: that Kim, thanks so much for coming.

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Speaker 2: Back and thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 3: Man, Well, that's great having you. We appreciate your time, Kim.

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Speaker 3: For the listeners who missed last week's show, please tell

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Speaker 3: him about yourself.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm a I was born in Memphis, Tennessee. I'm

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Speaker 4: thirty one years old now live in.

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Speaker 4: I have three daughters, married to my beautiful wife, Katie.

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Speaker 4: She's a nurse. I run past Control company. I like

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Speaker 4: to hunt, liked I said, love, love to hunt, loved

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Speaker 4: to fish. Uh, I love having a house full of dogs.

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Speaker 4: I'm just a simple guy from North Mississippi. Man, it's

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Speaker 4: not too much about me, that's uh it's crazier off.

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Speaker 3: The wall, nothing crazy about you. But that encounter you

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Speaker 3: had last December, that sure does fit the description of crazy.

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Speaker 3: That was something else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, it's uh.

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely the single most crazy thing that's ever happened

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Speaker 4: to me and my entire life without a out.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can understand why you would say that. I

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Speaker 3: hope that remains the craziest thing that has ever happened

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Speaker 3: else approaches that because that was just too much Kim,

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Speaker 3: it's been a week since you came on and told

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Speaker 3: now you've had a week between doing that and now,

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Speaker 3: is it then the easier to think about and deal with?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? You know, it's like we've you know, like we said,

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Speaker 4: To to get it out because you know, that was

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Speaker 4: big for y'all who are listened. It was made for

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Speaker 4: God's send. Thank you and uh and the people in

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Speaker 4: the comments, which I did take the time to read.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how many there are, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: You know, support of any kind. Really, that was that

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Speaker 3: I told you the listeners are incredible. They really are.

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Speaker 3: They don't know what a difference they make. I try

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Speaker 3: On last week's show, you said that your family moved

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Speaker 4: So, uh this this counted into the you know list

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Speaker 2: What happened? And uh, like I said, we had a

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Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, no, that's ah that's what happened, and

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Speaker 3: let someone asks about it. Kim. I know there's a

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Speaker 3: on what you've been through. And then after you've done that,

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Speaker 3: then I've got plenty of questions for you.

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Speaker 1: Sure, So, long story short. Mine grandparents farm, or it

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Speaker 2: Now they just they got a bunch of thickets. They're old.

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Speaker 2: But on this place I ran it.

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Speaker 4: My whole life literally ran on foot, you know, barefoot

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Speaker 2: They had a massive I could dogs at their house.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's fun you know, we enjoyed their coyotes.

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Speaker 2: You know, I love my dogs, won't mind my dogs

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Speaker 4: But uh, Tower and I and Dallas, my dogs, we

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Speaker 4: and uh uh. At some point my dog Dallas, who

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Speaker 2: He was a personal protection dog. Still still the dog

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Speaker 4: He just, you know, he can't you can't hit anybody

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Speaker 2: He was trained to do so. And uh, we.

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Speaker 4: Take him with us, you know, no intentions whatsoever of

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Speaker 2: He just he loved to go out and I hadn't

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Speaker 4: And it was a wasn't that cold, you know, It's

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Speaker 4: honestly a good feeling night for you know, even for

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Speaker 2: To it, and I don't know if he knew what

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Speaker 4: I dragged the coyote back. Dallas calms down. Tyler looks

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Speaker 4: We don't really know again what it is, uh, and

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Speaker 4: There's been a lot of shots and reasons for them

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Speaker 4: head was probably scraping the bottom of that thing. And uh,

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Speaker 2: Stays inside the tree line.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot of moonlight that night, it was

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Speaker 4: When I initially talked to Vic, I was like, man,

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Speaker 2: Last week. It scared me. I was scared. You know.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's not a lot in this world that

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Speaker 4: in spite of that, I didn't want Tyler to do

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Speaker 4: I guess fear for our safety, he didn't have any

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Speaker 4: ill intent except towards this thing.

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Speaker 2: Tyler fires a shot at it, and he hits it.

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Speaker 4: And once he shot, I unloaded my rifle and uh,

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Speaker 4: I give Tyler a few choice words because it was

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Speaker 4: coming out of my mouth. No don't, because he says, hey, Camn,

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Speaker 4: I'm fixing around at it, and uh, and he shoots

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Speaker 2: The middle of being like, no, don't.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, I told him what I thought about him, and

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Speaker 4: to where it's pointing to this thing, and man, it

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Speaker 4: after that, Towers like, man, we got to go. We

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Speaker 4: I've got my I picked my eight three eight up

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Speaker 4: and Vic remind me, I have a picture of myself

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Speaker 4: holding Dallas so you can see I'm six' one, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was trying to pick up with one arm, but uh,

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Speaker 4: the full wheeler and Tyler and I was like, hey, man, go,

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Speaker 4: It books it up the hill and out of sight,

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Speaker 4: and talking to Vic, I was like, man, he you know,

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, unless he went up to the

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Speaker 4: I say, he I assume he, I guess that's exactly

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Speaker 4: Dallas was ready to fight.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: You know, we were in his eyes, we were in

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Speaker 4: and he was prepared to do it with no questions asked.

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Speaker 4: You know that that thing he stood no chance, but

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Speaker 4: he didn't care. It didn't matter to him. Our safety

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Speaker 4: his main goal. And Uh, I dropped down knee and

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Speaker 4: I hugged his neck.

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Speaker 2: It's like, blah blah, I love you so much.

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Speaker 4: You're the You're the best dog I've ever had in

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Speaker 2: Where I do, let's get out of here, you know,

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Speaker 2: Let's let's get onto the truck.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 2: We gotta go.

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Speaker 4: And uh, it was it was it Somewhere between leaving

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Speaker 2: I had told myself, Man, we fixing.

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Speaker 4: I have to pull up to my grandpa's house, because

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Speaker 2: There's an old chicken coop.

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Speaker 4: Where once you pass it leaving going towards that pasture

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Speaker 4: we had come from it, you kind of know that

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Speaker 4: It was crouched behind that chicken coop. And uh, and

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Speaker 4: of course none of us saw Dallas didn't see it,

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Speaker 4: he didn't smell it, he didn't hear it.

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Speaker 4: It comes out of nowhere, and I hear a roar,

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Speaker 4: It made all my hair stand up.

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Speaker 2: I'm bald.

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Speaker 4: I shaved my head, but all the hair on the

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Speaker 4: stands up. And I realized that Dallas has gotten a

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Speaker 4: And I can't hardly see my visions blurry because I mean,

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Speaker 4: I was I was rocked and uh and but I

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Speaker 4: of it. I had a hold of Dallas and I

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Speaker 4: everything went everywhere, knocked. The four wheeler knocked me ten feet,

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Speaker 4: like I've been back to this spot, and it sent

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Speaker 2: It tackled me and it knocked that in the process.

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Speaker 4: That knock Dallas off four of that Tyler just kind

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Speaker 4: of fell and spun around and he landed like on

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Speaker 4: I looked up and that thing it was on you. Man,

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Speaker 4: I couldn't have done anything like you were. You were toast.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't help you. I couldn't do anything. And it

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Speaker 4: I have no idea, but uh it never got to man,

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Speaker 4: because Dallas hit him like a freight train, mouth open.

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Speaker 2: Fowers the dude, he looked like a torpedo out of

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Speaker 4: He came through mouth open and got a mouthful of

437
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 4: meat and fur right up under the left side of

438
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 4: this thing, up under its ribs, and uh, it didn't

439
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 4: like it. Dallas had a hold of him, and you know,

440
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 4: I guess for the best he could. He was giving

441
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,559
Speaker 4: him what for and it couldn't sling him loose it

442
00:21:43,599 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 4: grabs him and uh, round round about then as I had,

443
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,759
Speaker 4: I had made my feet and uh and my vision

444
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,799
Speaker 4: was you know enough. Well I knew what I was

445
00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 4: looking at because I get up and me and this

446
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 4: thing are looking at each other like we're and I

447
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,559
Speaker 4: and I say that like I'm looking at a person

448
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 4: or something. It's looking at me. Tyler's over, Tyler's yelling,

449
00:22:03,559 --> 00:22:06,279
Speaker 4: there's another person here. Tyler is the one who shot first.

450
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,519
Speaker 4: This thing is looking at me like it knows that's

451
00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 4: my dog. I've got your dog, I've got your whatever,

452
00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 4: I've got your friend. And it was like, man, it

453
00:22:16,519 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 4: was like he was challenging because by this time, Man

454
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,799
Speaker 4: Dallas had had enough. He had bit him a couple

455
00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:26,839
Speaker 4: of times, and uh, he just you know, all the

456
00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:27,799
Speaker 4: fight was gone from him.

457
00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: Man, he wasn't it wasn't dead at that point, but man, it.

458
00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 4: Was you know, I started to I got really really mad,

459
00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 4: like rage just grabbed me, like it consumed me. And

460
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 4: you know, at that moment, I wasn't scared. I didn't

461
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,039
Speaker 4: give a crap. I wasn't you know, I wasn't armed either,

462
00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 4: I didn't have anything. But the first thought in my

463
00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 4: head was, you know, go get down, get this thing,

464
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,599
Speaker 4: get him and uh, man, I start towards him, and

465
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 4: it never ever took its thighs off me the whole time.

466
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 4: And it raises Dallas up and just I'm on the ground, man,

467
00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 4: And that's he was alive until that point.

468
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 5: And uh and uh you know, now I couldn't have

469
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:15,799
Speaker 5: made it.

470
00:23:16,039 --> 00:23:17,519
Speaker 4: And if I did make it, you know, it could

471
00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:20,599
Speaker 4: have let go of him and killed me. And he'd

472
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 4: already saved me once, you know, he wasn't gonna save

473
00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 4: me again. But uh, it was like it was telling me,

474
00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 4: like this is what you get, but it was it

475
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: was challenging me, man the whole time. It never we

476
00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 4: never looked away from each other. We were locked eyes

477
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,759
Speaker 4: the whole time. I didn't look at what I was

478
00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:35,839
Speaker 4: stepping on. I could have run the foo wheler could

479
00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:36,759
Speaker 4: have been on the ground in front of me, and

480
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:38,559
Speaker 4: I would have run smooth into it and trip because

481
00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:39,599
Speaker 4: I was not paying attention.

482
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: But uh, I make it.

483
00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:45,559
Speaker 4: And this thing, I say, I say, we were twenty

484
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 4: maybe twenty five feet apart when when that happened, and

485
00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 4: I had already struck out. I was in motion, and uh,

486
00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:55,799
Speaker 4: and it dumped out on the ground and it did

487
00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:57,839
Speaker 4: not FaZe me once. I mean, you know, it occurred

488
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,759
Speaker 4: to me that had happened.

489
00:23:58,759 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: But my my.

490
00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 4: Was telling me, go, go go, and uh man, I

491
00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 4: made it halfway or so to this thing, and uh

492
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,839
Speaker 4: Tyler had at some point stopped screaming, and I guess

493
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,759
Speaker 4: found my rifle on the ground or under the foe

494
00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 4: whel or wherever he found it. And uh you know,

495
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: before we had left from down in the new pasture,

496
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 4: I had.

497
00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:18,559
Speaker 2: Emptied it, but I reloaded it, put.

498
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,519
Speaker 4: The five in there and uh man, Tyler opened fired

499
00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:25,519
Speaker 4: from the hip like John Wayne and let this thing

500
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:28,799
Speaker 4: have it and hit him five times, five times from

501
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 4: you know, twenty yards twenty fie at seven yards roughly

502
00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:34,799
Speaker 4: with a three o eight and.

503
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 2: It runs, it turns und It didn't drop.

504
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,519
Speaker 4: It wasn't and if it died, it died away from us,

505
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 4: because you know, it ran away from me because in

506
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,839
Speaker 4: my mind, I was like, it's getting away. I'm never

507
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,519
Speaker 4: gonna catch him. He's gone, he's gonna get away. He's

508
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 4: gonna get away with.

509
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,039
Speaker 2: Everything that he did.

510
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,599
Speaker 4: And uh but man, we and it broke my arm

511
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,319
Speaker 4: when it, you know, when it hit me, and.

512
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: Uh something I didn't say, you.

513
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: Know, it was that's stupid, I guess, but just to

514
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 4: put everything into perspective for what I'm going to say

515
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,559
Speaker 4: at the end.

516
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, once, once it was gone.

517
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,319
Speaker 4: You know, I roiseed, Dallas is on the ground dead

518
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 4: behind me, and uh I turned around and man, I,

519
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 4: you know, I just couldn't contain myself.

520
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:21,839
Speaker 3: Man.

521
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: I run to him and I put my hand under

522
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: his head and he was man, he was just bloody

523
00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 4: and he was broken, and and my world was crashing

524
00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 4: down around, you know, like right there. And uh, man,

525
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 4: I punched the ground like I screamed and punched the

526
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 4: ground and I broke the mess out like my left

527
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,079
Speaker 4: hand was purple and yellow and all kinds. And you

528
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,079
Speaker 4: know the time, I didn't realize that it was broken,

529
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,799
Speaker 4: but I was so mad, you know. And uh, and

530
00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 4: I pass out and it was I passed out.

531
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 2: I woke up on my back. I was holding my

532
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: head off the ground.

533
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,279
Speaker 4: And that was when he told me that my arm

534
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,519
Speaker 4: was broken and my nose was bleeding because I had

535
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 4: fallen on my face.

536
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: And uh he had taken Dallas and put him in

537
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: my truck.

538
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: And uh, he was like, man, we got to get

539
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 4: you to the hospital and I was like, well, we

540
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 4: gotta gotta.

541
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: Go tell Grandpa there's a werewolf out here.

542
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and when that happened, Man, that happened like maybe

543
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,319
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty yards from the house if my

544
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 4: grandfather had been out. And then again, this is one

545
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. We started shooting coyotes around about

546
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: nine o'clock and uh nine o'clock, nine thirty probably, and uh,

547
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 4: this is between one and one thirty. And you know,

548
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,279
Speaker 4: I was still going, I knew he's gonna custo me,

549
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 4: so I was I was still gonna wake him up.

550
00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 4: And uh we walked to the truck and Tyler had

551
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 4: found the guns and my pistol was sitting there, and man,

552
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: just you know that he was when when I got up,

553
00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 4: I was, I was, I was walking up on the

554
00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 4: truck and I was just hoping that you know, I

555
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 4: knew better, but I was still just kind of just

556
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 4: kind of hoping he'd have his head up, you know,

557
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: maybe his tail would dump at me or something.

558
00:26:57,839 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: And it was not.

559
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:03,759
Speaker 4: He was still there was cold, laying there, stiff, and uh,

560
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: I was scratching his ear, you know, just thinking like.

561
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: Big goofball. You know you could have lived. But uh,

562
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: he saved me. Man, he chose to chose to give

563
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:16,759
Speaker 2: it up and to save.

564
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 4: Me, and man all over again, I was mad. I was,

565
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 4: you know, just just I don't know the words to say.

566
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: I just in rage, just and just overcome with rage

567
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:29,599
Speaker 4: like I have never felt before. And I grabbed my

568
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,039
Speaker 4: pistol and I stepped one into it and uh and

569
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,079
Speaker 4: this this is why why I mentioned all the things

570
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,559
Speaker 4: that were wrong with me. But I'm going I had

571
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 4: planned right there, you know, and on split second to

572
00:27:43,319 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: go after this thing because I knew, I knew where

573
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: it had gone or where it had headed off to.

574
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,279
Speaker 2: So in hindsight, I have nothing but a pistol. That's

575
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: all I grabbed was a pistol.

576
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 4: I've got a broken hand on what My left hand's broken,

577
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,599
Speaker 4: my right arm is broken in two places.

578
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: I also had two cracked ribs on the right side

579
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,519
Speaker 2: because it hit me on the right side.

580
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 4: I'm bleeding, my face is bleeding. And I struck out

581
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 4: to go find this thing. And Tyler, you know, Ben mean,

582
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,079
Speaker 4: he's you know, I know him shooting this thing is

583
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,319
Speaker 4: probably what jump started everything. But man, he didn't mean

584
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:17,759
Speaker 4: anything by it. And he's a good friend. He was

585
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:20,279
Speaker 4: just trying to protect us. And then he was trying

586
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:23,799
Speaker 4: to protect me too, because like like the you know,

587
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: irrational person I was in that moment, I struck out

588
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: to go find this thing, and you know, he runs

589
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,279
Speaker 4: and grabs me and he's all I came to know,

590
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,279
Speaker 4: you can't go stop, you know, and uh I slapped

591
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 4: his arm off of him.

592
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: I was like, man, you get off of me, don't

593
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,119
Speaker 2: touch me, and uh he let me go a few

594
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,559
Speaker 2: more steps.

595
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:42,319
Speaker 4: He's like, man, you know, you really want your daughters

596
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: to lose their dog and you at the same time

597
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: in the same night, and uh, man just kind of

598
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,359
Speaker 4: took it out of me and I lost it and

599
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 4: just kind of just kind of hit my knees and.

600
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: You know, we went from there and.

601
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: Tyler helped me in the truck and we went whoop

602
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:04,279
Speaker 4: my grandpa up and he was he was angry with

603
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: me for waking him up until I told him what happened,

604
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,039
Speaker 4: and uh, I explained this to my grandpa's very stern,

605
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:13,079
Speaker 4: very no nonsense, very you know, he's he's the.

606
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: Type of person.

607
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if you'll ever seen good Fellas, but man,

608
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: Grandpa moves slow because he don't move for anybody. People

609
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 4: get out of his ways. He's that type of dude,

610
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: you don't you know.

611
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,279
Speaker 2: But I'm his only grandson and his firstborn grandchild at all,

612
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,279
Speaker 2: so I hold a spot in his heart that not

613
00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:30,119
Speaker 2: everybody else could hold, I guess. And man, I told

614
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,039
Speaker 2: him what happened one time, and I did not have

615
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,839
Speaker 2: to tell him, my grandpa, I'm not joking with you,

616
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know this is what happened. He

617
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:38,119
Speaker 2: was like, well, where's Dallas. And we go.

618
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: We look at him and this man, grandpa's seventy five,

619
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,599
Speaker 4: and he's he's he's cut from.

620
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: A different cloth. They don't make him like him anymore.

621
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,039
Speaker 2: And he was like, man, Tyler, you take my truck.

622
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: Y'all go to the hospital. Because Tyler told me, he

623
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: was like, we got to get you to the hospital.

624
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,559
Speaker 2: You got a broken arm, and it was throbbing already

625
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: by that point, but I ain't here.

626
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,559
Speaker 4: I would take my truck and you'll go to the hospital,

627
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: and I go bury bury Dallas, like I was really

628
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,799
Speaker 4: fixing to let him go out in the woods right

629
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,799
Speaker 4: then with a now dog man. But back then I

630
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:10,759
Speaker 4: had never heard that term before. So there there's a

631
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,519
Speaker 4: were wolf out here somewhere, and yeah, right, I'm gonna

632
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:14,839
Speaker 4: let you go out. And you know, he was like, well,

633
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 4: I got my pistol, like Grandpa, give it up, you know.

634
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:20,119
Speaker 4: So we go and he keeps watch for us and

635
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,079
Speaker 4: holds a pistol. Well we're burying Dallas, and uh, man,

636
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 4: that was the biggest hole I've ever dug in my

637
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:31,039
Speaker 4: life in so many ways. And uh, I buried him

638
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 4: next to my other I had another American bulldog looks

639
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: just like him. His name was Roscoe, and uh Dallas.

640
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 4: I had to put Roscoe down, unfortunately, and uh that

641
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 4: was one of the worst days of my life. And

642
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 4: then I find Dallas and they're identical. They look just

643
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 4: like each other except their mirrored Dallas and Roscoe are

644
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: both solid white. Roscoe had a brindle mark on his

645
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: left ear. Roscoe Dallas had a brindle mark on his

646
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 4: right ear, and he was probably thirty pounds bigger. But

647
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: they were identical dogs. And when I found him, I

648
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 4: was like, I was supposed to find you. You were

649
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 4: supposed to be with me and my children because they

650
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 4: were tore up over Roscoe. Being God, they loved that

651
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: dog and Dallas just kind of walked in and was like, hey,

652
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,839
Speaker 4: let me feel that apout everybody, And he did it effortlessly.

653
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,559
Speaker 4: We loved him so much and he loved us too.

654
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:25,519
Speaker 4: But uh, that's you know, that's why Dallas isn't here anymore,

655
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:30,079
Speaker 4: because he, uh, he gave it all to keep me

656
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: and Tyler alive. Man, Tyler went home to his that

657
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: thing might have turned finished me off and turned and

658
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,559
Speaker 4: grabbed a hold of Tyler.

659
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you never know. There's no telling what would

660
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,079
Speaker 2: have happened.

661
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: But we're both here alive, and you know able to

662
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: tell the story because he saved us. Our children have fathers,

663
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: and our husbands have are sorry, our wives have husbands,

664
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: you know.

665
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:55,359
Speaker 2: Because they am. Uh that's a so longer than I

666
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,319
Speaker 2: intended to be, but man, that's that's what happened. Yeh.

667
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:01,559
Speaker 2: We swoop it did the show on last week.

668
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,519
Speaker 3: No, don't worry about how long it was. I mean,

669
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,119
Speaker 3: I told you it's all about exposure. The more you

670
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,279
Speaker 3: talk about it and think about it, the easier this

671
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: is going to be to deal with. It's never going

672
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: to be easy, but it will get easier. So as

673
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:18,599
Speaker 3: long as we're working towards that goal, then we're making

674
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: good progress. So, like I said, please don't apologize. I'm

675
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,599
Speaker 3: wondering though, Kim, last week you said that you've got

676
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: Dallas's daughter. How she doing.

677
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:37,599
Speaker 2: She's a she's a goofball. He's a big old girl. Man.

678
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,039
Speaker 2: She looks just like her daddy. She's her her mother, Rosie.

679
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: It's a She's definitely the sweetest Rosies, the sweetest dog

680
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:45,559
Speaker 2: I've ever owned.

681
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 4: I've had a bunch of different dogs that were the

682
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: best in certain categories, but uh, Rosie sweetest can be

683
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: and pre got that from her. But man, she's she's

684
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,359
Speaker 4: like her day Like you can't you know, my wife

685
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: likes the rough house with me and you know, punch

686
00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:00,359
Speaker 4: my arm or you know, wrap me up, hold me

687
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,519
Speaker 4: up and bree don't like that.

688
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: You know, you can't.

689
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,279
Speaker 4: You can't be too rough with somebody in front of her.

690
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 4: She's like, no, y'all, calm down. I mean, she's every

691
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: bit of Dallas's little girl. Man, She's h My children

692
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,079
Speaker 4: have you know? It was like clockwork, you know, Dallas

693
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: was gone and I had to tell them what I

694
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: had to tell them, fortunately, but uh, you know that

695
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,319
Speaker 4: when when they learned that, you know, Dallas, Dallas is

696
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: in heaven. He's with Roscoe. You know he's not he's

697
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 4: not coming back anymore.

698
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,079
Speaker 2: I always got him. That's what I told my kids

699
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,519
Speaker 2: and my wife, and uh, they.

700
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:34,279
Speaker 4: They immediately, you know, just kind of took that start

701
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,319
Speaker 4: for them as much as she could took that spot.

702
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,079
Speaker 2: And man, they and they loved her anyway.

703
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:41,279
Speaker 4: But now you know, she's the center of the universe,

704
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: and it's uh, I'm so glad I've got it.

705
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: My uncle has her sister, Roscoe and Rosie. I mean sorry,

706
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:50,359
Speaker 2: Dallas and Rosie had four puppies, the.

707
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,079
Speaker 4: One letter that I actually had between them, and uh,

708
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: my uncle has another female. And my buddies, Tyler's dad

709
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: has Ross has Dallas's uh the biggest son.

710
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: So I get to see them regularly, and uh, I

711
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: don't get to see mo who is the son. I

712
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,039
Speaker 2: don't get to see him as much.

713
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: But man, he's just like his daddy too, except he's clumsy,

714
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:15,079
Speaker 4: you know, he's big goofball.

715
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: But he's doing good. Man. He's uh, he gets all

716
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:24,599
Speaker 2: the attention. And she, uh, she serves her purpose.

717
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 4: Man, She's she's filling the hole in my little girl's

718
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 4: hearts and that I couldn't really ask much more.

719
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: She sounds to me like she is a chip off

720
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: field block. I want to see some pictures of her

721
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: when you get a chance, could you send them? Timmy?

722
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: Sure, I got a buttload of him. Yeah, I'd be

723
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,559
Speaker 4: glad to videos pictures. My kids sleep on top of her.

724
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 4: He's like, you know, like the puppy pillow.

725
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,079
Speaker 3: Well that's great. Yeah, it sounds like she is doing

726
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: a great job filling in. This might be a sensitive topic,

727
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: and if it is, don't worry about answering this. But

728
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: if you are okay answering this and addressing this, then

729
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 3: and please do. What I'm getting at is you contacted

730
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: me last week with a question about a comment that

731
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: you saw that was left for last week's show. Are

732
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,119
Speaker 3: you okay talking about that, sharing what that question was

733
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: all about, and and sharing your thoughts on that?

734
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you know, first I screenshoted it so I could,

735
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: you know, I could see more of it.

736
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,639
Speaker 4: But the gist of it is, you know, I'm not

737
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:29,599
Speaker 4: gonna call this person by name everything, and they weren't

738
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: being this negative because one of the things I said was,

739
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:36,039
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sorry I hate to hear that, and

740
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 4: you know that that.

741
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,559
Speaker 2: First of all say that, but you know, I just

742
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: think strongly. My opinions are always strong.

743
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: But this person essentially said, you know, sorry for your

744
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 4: loss of sorry for this, but man, you just didn't

745
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,199
Speaker 4: know you were in this thing's backyard killing its pet

746
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: coyotes and saying, look, you know, to give you an hour,

747
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,639
Speaker 4: I used to do granite countertops.

748
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,039
Speaker 2: Right.

749
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,199
Speaker 4: To cut a granite countertop out, you got to set

750
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: the saw in the right place. You got to start

751
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: at the right measurement to end up at the right measurement. Dude,

752
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: if you start with a theory that's wrong from the jump,

753
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,039
Speaker 4: you're probably gonna come to the wrong conclusion. And wrong

754
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 4: is not even the word for the outlook that apparently

755
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: this person had on the situation, because man, I don't

756
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: care how long these things have been around. I don't

757
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 4: care how big or strong or fast or scary or

758
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,639
Speaker 4: capable of taking my life they are.

759
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,159
Speaker 2: Man, that thing was in my backyard and.

760
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 4: He's if he's alive, he's full of lead right now

761
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,079
Speaker 4: because he was in my backyard, literally in my backyard

762
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: where I grew up. You know, the the you know

763
00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 4: the notion that I was in this state. Dude, we

764
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,519
Speaker 4: can just do away with that right now.

765
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: You know, that's not that's not something I'm going to entertain,

766
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:03,079
Speaker 2: you know, And what logic someone would use to.

767
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: Justify that as theirs as their standpoint is just beyond me, because.

768
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: Man's he was on my turf.

769
00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:13,519
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying, oh, I own this property. You know,

770
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:15,039
Speaker 4: I ain't trying to sound like somebody who's trying to

771
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 4: tell you what they own. But man, that's my family's land.

772
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,159
Speaker 4: That's that's where I grew up.

773
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,599
Speaker 2: And man, that thing.

774
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:26,159
Speaker 4: Robs something for me because I'm I'm not even gonna

775
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 4: take my daughters. My my my middle little girl is

776
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 4: four years old, my oldest. She's you know, she's into

777
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 4: playing games and watching TV.

778
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: She didn't want to go hunting. She's like, it's cold,

779
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: I want to go.

780
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 4: But my four year old, man, she wants to go

781
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 4: hunting with daddy and has been asking me for let's

782
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: say she could she could really articulate, Daddy, I want

783
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: to go hunting.

784
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: It's a lot clearer stuff now. But I'm not going

785
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: to take her.

786
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,519
Speaker 4: You know, I'll never in my life put her anywhere

787
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,679
Speaker 4: where I even have an inkling that something like that

788
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,599
Speaker 4: could happen, and all from one instance. But regardless of that,

789
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:01,599
Speaker 4: that thing was still on my turf. That thing was

790
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: in my backyard, and you know, you know, to be honest,

791
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: I hope the thing ran out, because man, there was.

792
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:08,639
Speaker 2: There's a lot of blood. Brother, there was ah.

793
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: I mean that that thing was leaking when he left,

794
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,679
Speaker 4: and I didn't notice it right there in that in

795
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 4: that moment as it was going down, But man, there was.

796
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,159
Speaker 4: You know, this was in December, and I don't believe

797
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,119
Speaker 4: it rained for a while that But man, I you know,

798
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:27,119
Speaker 4: two or so weeks. I didn't go out and sit

799
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:28,599
Speaker 4: in my stand and wait on it until I was

800
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:30,079
Speaker 4: out of my cat, which I you know, I did

801
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 4: do that, to be honest with he might have been stupid,

802
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 4: but I had every intention putting the bullet in this thing.

803
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,639
Speaker 4: But man, that that thing, I mean, it was leaking,

804
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: leaking like there was black bots on the ground for

805
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: a while.

806
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: And uh, I mean, to be honest, I hope it

807
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: ran off and died.

808
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 4: But if not, call me crazy, but man, I'd like

809
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 4: a shot at him just to prove that he better

810
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,679
Speaker 4: not be coming around in my backyard again, you know

811
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 4: what I mean, like and if those were his pet coties,

812
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 4: you know, so what you know, the the beasts of

813
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,199
Speaker 4: the earth, the beasts of the earth are here for us,

814
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 4: and you know, to be on my property, to come

815
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 4: out and and try to be And you know, maybe

816
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,559
Speaker 4: maybe if Tyler hadn't shot that thing, you know, maybe

817
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,679
Speaker 4: maybe if he hadn't shot that thing, things wouldn't have

818
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,679
Speaker 4: jumped off like they did. Maybe sure, I'm reasonable, I can,

819
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 4: you know, I can accept that.

820
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: And but.

821
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:26,559
Speaker 4: Regardless, that thing had no business being being in any

822
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:30,599
Speaker 4: kind of close proximity to me, my family's land, my friend,

823
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 4: my dog, or anything. And if I ever see him

824
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,679
Speaker 4: again and I've got something to put around in him

825
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:39,639
Speaker 4: with men, I'm gonna put one anywhere I can in him,

826
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: He's gonna know, Yeah, I might, I might try to

827
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,519
Speaker 4: come around and act.

828
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 2: But because that's that's what most people's testimonies are. You know,

829
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: when I listening to your show because I loved I

830
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: love this show, you know, it's it's it's it's somewhat

831
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: comforting to me.

832
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 4: Here in other people's experiences, some are similar, some are

833
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,599
Speaker 4: way different. Some of them say these things show up

834
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:59,199
Speaker 4: and you think it's gonna get you, and it acts spooking,

835
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you around and it's gone. Man,

836
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 4: maybe that's what would have happened. But you know, even

837
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,599
Speaker 4: if that was, even if that would have been the

838
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,639
Speaker 4: extent of what what would have happened if Tower had

839
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 4: shot this thing. Man, you're not gonna show up and

840
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 4: try to spook me and man, get out of here, like,

841
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 4: that's not you know, I'm not. I'm not that type

842
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,199
Speaker 4: of person.

843
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 2: Man, you know.

844
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,079
Speaker 4: I I was scared in that moment because that's you know,

845
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 4: I was about to say a fairy tale. It's a nightmare,

846
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:28,119
Speaker 4: a living, walking nightmare. I watched werewolf movies as a kid.

847
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,039
Speaker 4: I was I was intrigued with I loved it. It

848
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:33,519
Speaker 4: was scary, especially as a kid, but they were just movies.

849
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,199
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, boom, it's here and

850
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 4: it's real and you're dealing with it. You know, I'm

851
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: just you know, I'm just not. You're not You're not

852
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 4: gonna walk out and be and act scary to me.

853
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,559
Speaker 4: I mean, you're gonna eat lead if you do something

854
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 4: like that. And he did, and he will again if

855
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: I see him again. But just yeah, no, And it's

856
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,559
Speaker 4: because he was in my domain.

857
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,639
Speaker 2: You know this, I'm this.

858
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 4: I'm not a not king of the earth anything like that.

859
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:04,599
Speaker 4: But to say that, you put yourself beneath this thing,

860
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 4: and that's that's not where I stand, you know. But

861
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: and and again, I'm I get worked up talking about this.

862
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,079
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at this person. I'm sorry if if

863
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:13,679
Speaker 4: that's the way I said. I'm not mad at this person.

864
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: We just have very very different, you know, opinions, and

865
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 4: mine is based off the kind of person I am

866
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 4: in my heart. You know, I'm I back down from

867
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: no one or nothing. And you know Dallas didn't either,

868
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I mean that's you know,

869
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 4: he did what he needed to do to keep me

870
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,599
Speaker 4: living and breathing. And it was all this thing's fault,

871
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:41,639
Speaker 4: whether Tyler shot or not. It had no business coming

872
00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:43,679
Speaker 4: around trying to be spooky to me. I'm you know,

873
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid of you.

874
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,039
Speaker 2: I was. I was scared in that moment because it

875
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: was like you know, shock factor, Like holy crap, what

876
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: is that? But yeah, I'm not the afraid type.

877
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: You know, when when when I when I was born,

878
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 4: they didn't install a flight response in me. If somebody

879
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,519
Speaker 4: ever pulled a gun on me point when he tried

880
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 4: to rob me, I'd get myself shot or possibly take

881
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 4: their gun from I mean, there's there's only two possibility

882
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,519
Speaker 4: because I'm not going to run, you know, and from

883
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 4: this thing, it's it's not any different. I'm not gonna

884
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 4: run if I can stand and fight, I don't stand

885
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 4: and fight, you know. And we did, and we see

886
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: who ran off with it. And another thing, I didn't

887
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,679
Speaker 4: see this thing having a tail. It turned directly with

888
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 4: his back to me when it ran for me the

889
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: way it did, and I didn't see a tail. So

890
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you can run with your tail

891
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: tuck on if that's literal, metaphorical whatever, But he ran

892
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: with his tail tuck when it was all said and done.

893
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: So, no, he better not come back into my domain.

894
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: I better not ever see him again.

895
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 4: And if so, he better kill me, because you know,

896
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,519
Speaker 4: as long as I'm alive and breathing, he's not safe

897
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 4: to be within my presence. He seet whatever it was,

898
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,639
Speaker 4: you know, but this person did, apart from our differing

899
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: opinions on you know, how the situation was, they did

900
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,039
Speaker 4: tell me, hey, I'm sorry, you for your loss and

901
00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 4: for that for that, thank you. I just you know,

902
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: our opinions are very very different, apparently different people.

903
00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: I saw that question and it took me aback. I

904
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: read it a couple of times, and yeah, they are

905
00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: entitled to their opinion, just like you're entitled to yours.

906
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:15,039
Speaker 3: But there was another question that got my attention even more.

907
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: In that question or statement, I guess you could kind

908
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,199
Speaker 3: of say it was it was more of a statement

909
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,199
Speaker 3: than a question. They posed the idea that the dog

910
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,519
Speaker 3: man had vengeance on its mind because you and Tyler

911
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: were shooting its buddies, the eleven coyotes. And as you'll remember, Kim,

912
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,039
Speaker 3: in our conversation I think it was Tuesday night or something.

913
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:44,199
Speaker 3: We spoke this past Tuesday, if you remember in our conversation,

914
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: I told you that. Yeah, I mean a lot of

915
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,639
Speaker 3: eyewitnesses have reported seeing these guys running with packs of

916
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: coyotes and they seem to be buddy buddy and all that.

917
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that's where this commenter got their opinion

918
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,199
Speaker 3: from on that, But every bit as common as that

919
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:05,039
Speaker 3: is would be other eyewitnesses reporting witnessing that. And the

920
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: next thing, you know, everything goes from being buddy buddy,

921
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: they're just running along with the pact. All of a

922
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: sudden they just reach out and grab a coyote that's

923
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:16,599
Speaker 3: within grabbing distance and rip it apart for no reason,

924
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,039
Speaker 3: for no apparent reason. So yeah, I can understand why

925
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,599
Speaker 3: that person might think, from listening to various shows that

926
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: these guys are just buddy buddy with coyotes and they're

927
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,599
Speaker 3: their pets. But there's a dark side to that as well.

928
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: They're not above want and slaughter when it comes to

929
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: coyotes themselves. So from you guys shooting those coyotes, I

930
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,119
Speaker 3: can understand why someone who doesn't know that they've got

931
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:44,559
Speaker 3: that dark side when it comes to coyotes as well.

932
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 3: I can understand that person thinking, Okay, well you killed

933
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: their pets, that's why it was so upset. But like

934
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,559
Speaker 3: I said, they're not above doing the same thing themselves

935
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 3: for no reason. So if whoever it was I left

936
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: that comment's listening tonight, please keep that in mind.

937
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,199
Speaker 4: And if that were, you know, if that were, if

938
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,159
Speaker 4: that were you know, viable, if that was something true

939
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:10,679
Speaker 4: that could be proved, that would make all the sense

940
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 4: of the world. Yeah, and I could see where that

941
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,079
Speaker 4: idea might come from you know, no doubt I have

942
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,119
Speaker 4: heard stories where these things were leading packs of coyotes.

943
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: You know.

944
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's you know, but as you said, you know,

945
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 4: it's not I don't think they really I don't think

946
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 4: they really care too much, you know, something like that.

947
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: I mean, and when and I, uh, sinister senist.

948
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,519
Speaker 4: Evil is that's that's what I get from this thing,

949
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,639
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, because I mean it's I just

950
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,679
Speaker 4: don't what's the point in showing up and being scary

951
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: and trying to trying to terrify a creature that's small

952
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: talking about humans that are smaller and meeker and or

953
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,119
Speaker 4: so you think, you know, smaller and physically less than

954
00:45:58,199 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 4: you you know, what what do you.

955
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't get it. Evil is what

956
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,039
Speaker 2: I get. That's what I call that.

957
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,199
Speaker 4: That's like the equivalent of, like I said, I'm not

958
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 4: gonna say supernatural, because man, this thing ate a lot

959
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,079
Speaker 4: of lead, you know, and it bled it's not supernatural.

960
00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:15,639
Speaker 2: It's a living, breathing thing that has to eat and

961
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,679
Speaker 2: drink to stay alive. But uh yeah, I mean that's

962
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,559
Speaker 2: that's like a.

963
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 4: A bully essentially, and uh, you know he took something

964
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 4: from me, but he also got what was coming to him.

965
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, I don't think there's much room in

966
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,199
Speaker 4: him for compassion for a pack of a pack of.

967
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: Code, because Man, this thing. I know for a fact

968
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,679
Speaker 2: some of these CODs.

969
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,119
Speaker 4: Came from a different direction from where he came from,

970
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,159
Speaker 4: Like they weren't running together when that happened, you know.

971
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: And maybe maybe some of them were, I don't know,

972
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 4: but I know some of them came in from the

973
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,199
Speaker 4: right side of our pasture, like they had crossed the

974
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,639
Speaker 4: big the big gravel company that are our property butts

975
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 4: up to. And this guy came from, you know, he

976
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,599
Speaker 4: came from over by where my favorite deer stand is,

977
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 4: which is the complete opposite direction.

978
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:05,679
Speaker 2: So it's not like he was running with these things.

979
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: And let's not to say they'd never crossed paths or anything.

980
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: But I'm with you on that one. I don't. I

981
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 2: don't think that held too much water.

982
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: I don't either, I really don't, Kim. Let's get to

983
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: the questions now from the listeners in the live chat.

984
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: The first one in Q is from Andre's Currizales and

985
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: Andres's question is the woods where you were? Are there

986
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,639
Speaker 3: any stories or myths like it being haunted.

987
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 2: Oh so all right, And I told Vic this too,

988
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: and it's just a little, you know, a little bitty thing.

989
00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:39,599
Speaker 2: But I also connected it with.

990
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 4: Maybe why, maybe the reason why my grandpa believed me

991
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,039
Speaker 4: when I and it's other than seeing Dallas in the

992
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 4: bed of my truck and hearing me, because I mean,

993
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: I was barely holding it together when I was talking

994
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 4: to him. I'd about cried myself out and I was

995
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 4: kind of in that numb stage. And I'm sure he

996
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 4: could tell that something was up. But my grandfather told

997
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 4: me and the house that I went to warn him,

998
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,639
Speaker 4: in the house he still lives in, when it was

999
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: when it was built, I wasn't even a twinkle on

1000
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 4: my daddy died yet, I wasn't even a thought. And

1001
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 4: he's told me on more than one occasion. He said, man,

1002
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,119
Speaker 4: uh and he called it a booger what he called it,

1003
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 4: And uh, I've heard it called a woolli booger by

1004
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,599
Speaker 4: one of my friends.

1005
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,599
Speaker 2: But it was, you know, talking about two totally different things. Uh,

1006
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: Grandpa said, only thing I've ever experienced with with the

1007
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: booger or anything like that. He said, I was building

1008
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: his house and uh, they were living a couple miles

1009
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: up back to the highway, a couple miles back towards town.

1010
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,599
Speaker 4: And he said that he had all the framing done

1011
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,519
Speaker 4: and he had like a work light or two hanging

1012
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 4: in there, and it was dark.

1013
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,559
Speaker 2: You know, he'd work.

1014
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 4: I'd do work ten o'clock at night and get something done.

1015
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: And uh, he had had those worklights on and he

1016
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 4: cut them off, gott in his truck. And at the time,

1017
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:49,679
Speaker 4: they already had the rest.

1018
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 2: Of the property prep. They didn't have the house built.

1019
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 4: They had two hundred and seventy something odd head a

1020
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 4: longhorn cows at the time.

1021
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: And that was before they brought the Angus bulls and

1022
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,679
Speaker 2: started crossbreeding.

1023
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,199
Speaker 4: But he drove up to the part of the driveway

1024
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 4: because the yard yard was electric fenced off with cows.

1025
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 4: Couldn't get in because the dogs would face.

1026
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: And they had blue heelers and stuff.

1027
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,079
Speaker 4: And he gets out of his truck and unhooks the

1028
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: electric fence so he can drive through. And he said

1029
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 4: he turned around to walk back to the truck and

1030
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 4: he saw the light was back on, and he was like, I.

1031
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,159
Speaker 2: Turned that light off.

1032
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 4: So anyway, he gets some truck verses back to the house.

1033
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,159
Speaker 4: It's out, it cuts the light back off and goes

1034
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 4: back through it. And when he gets eat, you know,

1035
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,599
Speaker 4: he left the electric fence open. When he pulls through

1036
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,119
Speaker 4: and gets out to close it, the light's back on again.

1037
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,079
Speaker 4: And he went and turned it off again, he said,

1038
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,079
Speaker 4: He said, Man, the second time I went turned off

1039
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 4: a little spooky, he said, I a little spook, you know, understandably.

1040
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: So because he's by himself. At that time, that house

1041
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: that I grew up in wasn't even a thought.

1042
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,599
Speaker 4: So it was nothing but woods. And then the neighbors

1043
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 4: to the right, their house wasn't there. There was no

1044
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 4: neighbors until you got all the way across the highway.

1045
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,039
Speaker 4: Their driveways a half mile long. It's right right at

1046
00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: give or take. But uh, other than that, no, there

1047
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,679
Speaker 4: hasn't been any to my knowledge because we I mean,

1048
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 4: I don't even know who owned the property before we

1049
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 4: lived there. So and my family and art and within

1050
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,159
Speaker 4: the knowledge that we have, that's the only And you know,

1051
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 4: that was just a story my grandpa told me.

1052
00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:19,119
Speaker 2: But no, I guess not.

1053
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say that as well. Yeah, when you told

1054
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: me about that story, I was thinking, Wow, what would

1055
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 3: I be thinking? If I was experiencing that, and I'm

1056
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,199
Speaker 3: not really sure how I would respond to that. That's strange,

1057
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: it really is. The Next one in Q is from Robin,

1058
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: and Robin wants to know, have you thought about gearing

1059
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 3: up with heavy firepower and some help to go see

1060
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,039
Speaker 3: if he might be dinning on your land?

1061
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I told I didn't use those exact words,

1062
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 2: but I did tell Vic that the first time I

1063
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: ever talked to him, and like I said, man, y'all,

1064
00:50:55,679 --> 00:50:58,039
Speaker 2: y'all show Vic love in any way you possibly can,

1065
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 2: because the guy has this way of letting you get stuff.

1066
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:05,039
Speaker 4: Out without you know, questioning you during and just letting

1067
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: you spill what's on your mind and then having.

1068
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: Something sensible to say to you. Because I said something.

1069
00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 4: Just like what you said to him, and I was like, man, yeah,

1070
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 4: I want to kill that thing. I want to find

1071
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,199
Speaker 4: him and I wanted this and he was like yeah,

1072
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 4: and I understand, but uh, you know that may not

1073
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 4: be the best I did. And you know, he's right,

1074
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 4: He's absolutely right, And I haven't put thoughts away of

1075
00:51:29,159 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 4: going and because I mean, man, he you know killed

1076
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: my bubble man, you.

1077
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,559
Speaker 2: Know that I mean. And on top of that, like

1078
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: I said, he took things from me that he probably

1079
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: didn't even know he took from me, Like my little

1080
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:41,599
Speaker 2: girl can't even.

1081
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 4: Go hunting there anymore. I won't take her to the

1082
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,199
Speaker 4: pond to go fishing. Man, the best, the best bass

1083
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: I've ever caught. I was five years old. My grandpa

1084
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,559
Speaker 4: took me fishing and I caught it out of the

1085
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:52,119
Speaker 4: pond on the front of the property. And man, my

1086
00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 4: grandpa cried tears of joy when that happened. He was

1087
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 4: so so happy for me. He held me and and

1088
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,079
Speaker 4: we were He cried, and I cannot take my safely,

1089
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:05,119
Speaker 4: you know, or or with any kind of piece of

1090
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 4: mind take my daughter there any of them and have

1091
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,559
Speaker 4: an experience like that now.

1092
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I have one hundred and ten percent

1093
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: thought about And I asked.

1094
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:19,039
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say his name, but there was

1095
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 4: a guest on a show way way priored me, or

1096
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 4: on VIC show prior to me that I asked it.

1097
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,119
Speaker 2: I was like, man, you think what that guy was

1098
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: saying was true? And if so, will you put me

1099
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 2: in contact with him?

1100
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: He was like, Cam, I don't want to put you

1101
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 4: in any kind of danger, you know, And it's yeah, no,

1102
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 4: I absolutely absolutely thought about going and looking.

1103
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: For this thing.

1104
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:48,519
Speaker 4: And you know, I mean thenning, I just there's men,

1105
00:52:48,519 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 4: there's so so our place is somewhere along the Holly

1106
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,039
Speaker 4: Springs National Force. Not trying to give away my address

1107
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 4: or anything like that, but the Holly Springs National Force

1108
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 4: is mass it is so big. And this this is

1109
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 4: a conversation Vick and I also had this thing could

1110
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 4: have been living anywhere in the Holly Spurt because we're

1111
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 4: not far from it at all, and there's plenty of game,

1112
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,079
Speaker 4: there's plenty of you know, water hole, there's plenty of

1113
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 4: everything this thing needs to survive. So I seriously doubt

1114
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,639
Speaker 4: it's denon on our one hundred because because like I said,

1115
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:22,519
Speaker 4: growing up, I ran every inch of that property on

1116
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 4: foot more times than I could count in a lifetime,

1117
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:30,199
Speaker 4: you know. And now there's there's bobcat dens because I

1118
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 4: have found them, smoke Bobcats out of them.

1119
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,159
Speaker 2: But there's really nowhere. There's not an inch of that

1120
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,199
Speaker 2: property that I haven't laid my eyes on. Now.

1121
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:41,079
Speaker 4: I don't run around in the woods unless i'm hunting

1122
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:44,039
Speaker 4: like I used to. You know, I don't run around

1123
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 4: like I used to unless i'm hunting. But uh, and

1124
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 4: you know that's during deer season and that's about the

1125
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 4: only time I do it. But uh, man, a den

1126
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 4: for that thing would have to be so big. You know,

1127
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 4: there's no way I could miss it because I have

1128
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 4: walked the whole property hunting before, just stalking, you know,

1129
00:54:01,039 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 4: get stagnant, sitting in the deer standing and get up

1130
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 4: and walk. If I'd ever come up on something like that,

1131
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know what I would have done,

1132
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 4: but uh, something would have been done about it at

1133
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,559
Speaker 4: some point. But I would like, I say, like, I'd

1134
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:17,079
Speaker 4: just like to run up on this thing when it

1135
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:18,599
Speaker 4: didn't see me and I had shot.

1136
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 2: At him or something. You know, I'm not gonna say

1137
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go looking for him because my kids need me.

1138
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,039
Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, I don't want to leave.

1139
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 4: This world to leave my wife and children without me.

1140
00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I've definitely I ramble sometimes, but yes,

1141
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,039
Speaker 4: no answer that question. I've absolutely thought about that.

1142
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to sum it up, so it's definitely

1143
00:54:40,039 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: not rambling. The next one up is from Bang Bang,

1144
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,519
Speaker 3: and it is I guess they want to know from

1145
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: me if Dallas alerted prior to the attack. No, he didn't.

1146
00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:54,039
Speaker 3: This was just out of the blue. He did roar,

1147
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:57,599
Speaker 3: but other than that roar, there weren't any signs he

1148
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: was about to attack. And then they also want to

1149
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:03,519
Speaker 3: know if dog men have a cloaking ability. Well, there

1150
00:55:03,559 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: have been some credible eyewitnesses, quite a few credible eyewitnesses

1151
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,679
Speaker 3: who've reported that, so apparently it's a strong possibility that

1152
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,079
Speaker 3: they do. It's not like they need to have any

1153
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 3: other abilities to make them more formidable, that's for sure,

1154
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,679
Speaker 3: but it would appear that that's definitely possible that they

1155
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,199
Speaker 3: can do that. All right, let's move on to the

1156
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,519
Speaker 3: next one. The next question is from gen R and

1157
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: her question is, Kim, are you afraid he will seek

1158
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 3: revenge or even bring more dogmen next time? Will you

1159
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 3: get trail cam.

1160
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, Like I said, you know, I've gotten

1161
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,679
Speaker 4: over there, and if I saw him again, I may

1162
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 4: get that shock set.

1163
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: That not a shock set, that shock factor type of fear.

1164
00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: Mc man. He's you know, the idea of him doesn't

1165
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: scare me at all.

1166
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 4: It you know, kind of takes me off a little

1167
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 4: bit because the thing is, I have trail cameras I

1168
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 4: have there right now.

1169
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 2: I left. I left him out there since last hunting season,

1170
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: and uh, as.

1171
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 4: Of right now, there are one, two, three, four. I

1172
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,559
Speaker 4: know for a fact there are four, and I hunt

1173
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:21,199
Speaker 4: every one of those spots. Uh, there may be five.

1174
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 4: One that Tyler had one out there, and I do

1175
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 4: believe it was a like a blue camoh massiolk camera,

1176
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,559
Speaker 4: and I think he picked it up at some point

1177
00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 4: before that, because Tyler hasn't been out there since then,

1178
00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 4: that's not step foot on that place since.

1179
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: But uh, I think he got his.

1180
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 4: So there there are four out there, and there are

1181
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 4: the the first place that and I assume that this

1182
00:56:48,119 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 4: this thing was what was down at the end of

1183
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,039
Speaker 4: the past year that Dallas barked at when I initially

1184
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:55,599
Speaker 4: walked out before anything actually transpired, when I.

1185
00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: Walked out to grab those two coyotes that we had

1186
00:56:57,519 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: left land.

1187
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,519
Speaker 4: Uh, there is a camera right down there, like probably

1188
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: within fifteen feet of where we saw whatever it was,

1189
00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 4: and I assume that's what it was, and if so,

1190
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 4: it didn't want us to know it was there yet,

1191
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,599
Speaker 4: and it very very quietly left from where it was

1192
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:15,199
Speaker 4: because it was so big. It's hard to be quiet

1193
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: when you're that size unless you're trying, and it left

1194
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: from where it was and went, you know, I guess

1195
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 4: back around the hill that ended it ended into that

1196
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:28,119
Speaker 4: it ended up topping and coming down towards us on

1197
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 4: But from honestly, from where it was, it may not

1198
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:37,039
Speaker 4: have crossed into the camera's field of vision because I

1199
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: don't have any pictures of this thing. And I might

1200
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 4: have said that to Vic when I very very first

1201
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 4: talked to him. I've got trail cameras.

1202
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:44,159
Speaker 2: I have them.

1203
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:47,159
Speaker 4: You know, this is there's prime deer hunting on this place,

1204
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 4: and I've never seen a decline in the deer population,

1205
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,239
Speaker 4: and I've never had a picture of this thing on

1206
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:58,239
Speaker 4: a trail camera. Now I will say, uh, the winter

1207
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 4: before last un season or last if you will, Uh,

1208
00:58:03,639 --> 00:58:07,159
Speaker 4: we did have some problems with and I feel like

1209
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 4: it was one of the employees ah at this gravel

1210
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: pit that I mentioned our property butts up to on

1211
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 4: one side. Uh, because we had had problems way years

1212
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: ago with those folks shooting our cattle, and my grandpa

1213
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 4: put a stop to that with a quickness. It happened

1214
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 4: twice and after the second time the first time he

1215
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I'm not sure exactly what happened in there,

1216
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 4: and okay, but the second time it happened, he went

1217
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,599
Speaker 4: over there and he was like, hey, the next cow

1218
00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 4: that turns up dead, somebody over here is going missing.

1219
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:35,719
Speaker 2: And we had no problems with it after that.

1220
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 4: But uh, right over there where these where these cow's

1221
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 4: been shot, we uh, we I had had problems. My

1222
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 4: grandpa has one friends allowed to hunt on this property.

1223
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 4: He's got hunting rights out there because they're like brothers.

1224
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,159
Speaker 4: And uh he had a really really nice lock on

1225
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,159
Speaker 4: deer stand with a swivel chair, and it's got it's

1226
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:55,159
Speaker 4: got bur lap, right, you can't not burlap. But uh

1227
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 4: with that, Cai says, Camo, it's not Gilly. It's not

1228
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 4: like Gilly suit whatever it is.

1229
00:58:59,679 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1230
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 4: And this thing had been snatched like around a tree,

1231
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,719
Speaker 4: like somebody had tried to take it but they couldn't

1232
00:59:04,719 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: get up there to uh, to undo the top of

1233
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 4: it or something. And then I had that trail camera

1234
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,639
Speaker 4: that I was talking about that was close to where

1235
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 4: this thing was initially, if that's what it was. When

1236
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:22,039
Speaker 4: when Dallas Boston started barking first time, that trail camera

1237
00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:26,679
Speaker 4: had been turned around and it got pictures and my Grandpa's.

1238
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,199
Speaker 2: Well, how do you know it was because it took

1239
00:59:28,239 --> 00:59:29,639
Speaker 2: a picture of the hill behind it.

1240
00:59:31,039 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 4: So at one point the camera was somebody had turned

1241
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,239
Speaker 4: it around without walking into its field vision, because there

1242
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,039
Speaker 4: was no picture of a person or of anything else

1243
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,159
Speaker 4: that you see a picture, you know, I mean, I

1244
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,039
Speaker 4: mean a butterfly flying in front of it. We'll set

1245
00:59:44,039 --> 00:59:46,199
Speaker 4: it off if it's close enough. But there was a

1246
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 4: picture of you know, just the woods that it was

1247
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 4: looking at where it was meant deer coming out.

1248
00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:55,599
Speaker 2: And then the next picture is the hill behind it.

1249
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 4: You could you can see little vines and stuff, and

1250
00:59:59,239 --> 01:00:01,159
Speaker 4: you can see the the leaf cover on the ground.

1251
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 4: And then the next picture it takes it's turned back

1252
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,199
Speaker 4: around correctly. And the odds that a deer did that,

1253
01:00:08,519 --> 01:00:10,639
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's crazy. So I don't know

1254
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:14,639
Speaker 4: if that thing did that, I don't know, you know,

1255
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, or at the time, you know, I

1256
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 4: said we had problems with people sneaking onto the property.

1257
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 2: I feel like that's what that was. But I do

1258
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:27,679
Speaker 2: have cameras, I don't have any pictures, and uh yeah,

1259
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't.

1260
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know I have I have other

1261
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 4: than mine and tower's eye witness account. I don't have

1262
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 4: any evidence that this thing was.

1263
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: There, you know.

1264
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can. You can wonder about things like

1265
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: that until you're blue in the phase. I mean around

1266
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,239
Speaker 3: a farm like that, strange things are going to happen.

1267
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,239
Speaker 3: Around a normal property, strange things are going to happen.

1268
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,239
Speaker 3: So now you're hyper sensitive. You've had that traumatic dog

1269
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,039
Speaker 3: meaning encounter, and anytime something strange happens, that's going to

1270
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:04,239
Speaker 3: be your go to. But yeah, try not to let

1271
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,199
Speaker 3: that cripple or anything like that, because that's not going

1272
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 3: to do anyone good. But I've got another question for

1273
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:13,599
Speaker 3: you from Bang Bang, and their question is if the

1274
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 3: government that should be has the government on any level

1275
01:01:17,519 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 3: been lurking around your land?

1276
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean unless they're doing it unbeknown for me.

1277
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:27,639
Speaker 4: But my grandfather is the type of person if you

1278
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 4: drive down the driveway and turn around before you get

1279
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,199
Speaker 4: to the house and leave, he will know that somebody

1280
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,039
Speaker 4: drove down the driveway.

1281
01:01:34,039 --> 01:01:36,079
Speaker 2: He'd be like, hell, the rocks are disturbed. Look over there,

1282
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,119
Speaker 2: you see that. Son.

1283
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:39,519
Speaker 4: If somebody and drove down my driveway and turn around,

1284
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 4: I mean, no, Joe, He's you can't do nothing at

1285
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,119
Speaker 4: seventy five years, he's starting to get dementia too, but

1286
01:01:45,679 --> 01:01:50,039
Speaker 4: nothing gets past him whatsoever. So I, I mean, unless

1287
01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 4: they've been coming in at nighttime and snooping around, I don't.

1288
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because, Uh, I heard the first

1289
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:59,159
Speaker 4: account I ever heard on Big Show's guy named Brandon

1290
01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 4: says that the group that came in after he had

1291
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Speaker 4: his encounter took all of his SD cards out of

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01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,119
Speaker 4: his uh, out of his trail cameras, and my mine

1293
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:11,519
Speaker 4: are still there? Or well, let me say that I

1294
01:02:11,639 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 4: haven't checked, they're probably still and if they're not, then

1295
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: you know, I'll come back.

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Speaker 2: We do another one of these, and I can answer

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Speaker 2: that question accordingly.

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Speaker 4: But uh, no, I really don't think so, because I mean,

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01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 4: I you know, nobody knew about this, and I mean me, Tyler,

1300
01:02:26,039 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 4: my grandfather didn't know about this, or nobody else other

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01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 4: than us knew about this until I talked to Vig.

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01:02:31,639 --> 01:02:34,159
Speaker 2: You know. Part of why it's been so helpful to

1303
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: me is because it was inside for uh.

1304
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,239
Speaker 4: Seven seven months, eight months, however long it's been now,

1305
01:02:43,239 --> 01:02:48,559
Speaker 4: and uh in that time, No, I don't, I don't

1306
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 4: think so.

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01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,199
Speaker 2: And you know, if they hear this, if something because

1308
01:02:52,239 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: I mean, they listen to everything.

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01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,039
Speaker 4: You could talk about something out loud while you're holding

1310
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 4: your phone and the next day you've never typed it

1311
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,199
Speaker 4: into your phone, you've never searched for it, then that

1312
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,559
Speaker 4: you have an ad for it on Facebook.

1313
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: They hear everything. So if they're listening to this, you

1314
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: better not come snoop around on my land. And if so,

1315
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,159
Speaker 2: you better announce yourself.

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01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 4: Because to be honest with you, my grandpa will shoots you,

1317
01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:12,199
Speaker 4: like if he sees you walking, he don't know who

1318
01:03:12,239 --> 01:03:13,639
Speaker 4: you are, He's gonna I AM at you.

1319
01:03:13,719 --> 01:03:15,719
Speaker 2: He's gonna give you one chance. Hey, turn around, put

1320
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,159
Speaker 2: hands in the air, walk towards me, and if you don't,

1321
01:03:18,519 --> 01:03:23,639
Speaker 2: you don't catch lid. But uh no, I don't think so,

1322
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: I really, I really, I don't have any reason to

1323
01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: think so, if I can say it that way.

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01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:32,239
Speaker 3: They do have a lot of resources, but there is

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01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: a limit even to their resources. So unless it's really

1326
01:03:36,159 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: pressing you, they're not going to come out there and

1327
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,519
Speaker 3: pay you any mind. So it wouldn't surprise me in

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01:03:41,559 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 3: the least that they haven't done that at all. The

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01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,559
Speaker 3: next one up is from Andre's Kirazales and Andres wants

1330
01:03:48,719 --> 01:03:51,639
Speaker 3: to know. Did you or your neighbors notice any difference

1331
01:03:51,679 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 3: in the way animals behaved, pets farming, animals gone missing?

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01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, no, that was so My grandma, like

1333
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:03,239
Speaker 4: I said, she'd been losing more kickens than normal, and

1334
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 4: they've been really stirred up, not laying now.

1335
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:07,719
Speaker 2: Other than that, they only have dogs, and I don't

1336
01:04:08,239 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: my grandfather didn't say anything about dogs acting weird.

1337
01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:14,239
Speaker 4: But the people across the road, the elderly couple, they

1338
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 4: had two dogs named Joe, Bob and Buddy, who I

1339
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 4: had known for years.

1340
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: They were old.

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01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 4: I believe both those dogs are like sixteen. They lived

1342
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 4: long lives, but they both went missing in the same day.

1343
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 4: Like they both disappeared at the same exact time. Now,

1344
01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:30,519
Speaker 4: could one of them have you know, could they have

1345
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,039
Speaker 4: gone out on a walk, one of them killed over

1346
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 4: dead and the other one just laid down and died.

1347
01:04:34,159 --> 01:04:36,199
Speaker 4: Dogs will die from I'm doing their quotes right now,

1348
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,719
Speaker 4: broken heart. If their companion dies, they will lay down

1349
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,159
Speaker 4: and starve themselves to death. They will do that, and

1350
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 4: that is a possibility that that could happen. But that

1351
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,199
Speaker 4: being said, the neighbor that lives to the right will

1352
01:04:48,239 --> 01:04:50,079
Speaker 4: call him, Jason. I grew up with this guy. I

1353
01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:53,039
Speaker 4: rode the bus with him. I used to have a

1354
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:57,119
Speaker 4: little dog named Cow. Cow was suonous like Arnold Swartz

1355
01:04:57,199 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 4: the dog. He was little, but he was really muscular

1356
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,519
Speaker 4: and couldn't.

1357
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:03,239
Speaker 2: Tell him anything, couldn't take him anywhere. He and I act.

1358
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,239
Speaker 2: But he struck out one day and man, I didn't

1359
01:05:07,239 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 2: see him for two weeks, and I was like, where

1360
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,639
Speaker 2: is my buddy? Man? Where did he go? And it

1361
01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:14,239
Speaker 2: turns out and I was calling and he heard me

1362
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,599
Speaker 2: the whole time I was calling him, searching for him.

1363
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:19,039
Speaker 2: I was upset. I was like, I was a dad man.

1364
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: You know, CAW's gone.

1365
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 4: Man, something got him or he you know, he he

1366
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 4: ran off and found somebody else to live with, which

1367
01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 4: was crazy.

1368
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,719
Speaker 2: He loved us to know.

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01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 4: He was next door at Jason's house having a litter

1370
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,719
Speaker 4: of puppies with his female. Well, Jason had these two

1371
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 4: puppies and they were identical. Like I said, I don't

1372
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:40,079
Speaker 4: know if dogs produce whatever jeans it is that make twins,

1373
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:43,159
Speaker 4: but these puppies were identical to the last hair on

1374
01:05:43,239 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 4: their body. They were the same color, they had the

1375
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 4: same temperament, everything, and they were like five.

1376
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,719
Speaker 2: Or six years old. I think they were six when

1377
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: this happened, and they both went missing him one night.

1378
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:55,719
Speaker 4: But that's why we thought it was coyotes. Coyotes do that,

1379
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,159
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, and between the chickens, I mean, hell,

1380
01:05:59,239 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 4: the chickens. It could have than fox bobcat. I mean,

1381
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 4: we got all that around our house. There's big bobcats

1382
01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 4: on our place. Lots of foxes, you know, unusual number

1383
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,119
Speaker 4: of foxes, if I may say, But uh.

1384
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there was.

1385
01:06:10,239 --> 01:06:12,679
Speaker 4: There wasn't a bunch of strange behavior in the in

1386
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,039
Speaker 4: the animals, and we don't have horses and cows and

1387
01:06:16,159 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 4: such like we used to do, so there might have

1388
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 4: been if we had that. But as far as I know,

1389
01:06:22,119 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 4: my grandparents' dogs hadn't been agnormal. But there had been

1390
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 4: animals going missing at a much higher rate and over

1391
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 4: a much larger span of land than was normal.

1392
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, unfortunately, it'd probably been around for a while then,

1393
01:06:36,039 --> 01:06:39,639
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised. I can't believe the time has flung

1394
01:06:39,719 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 3: by so quickly. We're about at the seventy minute mark,

1395
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 3: so we're gonna need to get ready to wrap this up.

1396
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,559
Speaker 3: But before we do, do you have any clothing comments

1397
01:06:47,559 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 3: you'd like to share.

1398
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 4: Uh, I love y'all to death, man, the you know,

1399
01:06:55,199 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 4: not trying to sound corny, but the support, the number

1400
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 4: of y'all, the number of y'all that have said, you know,

1401
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 4: I don't know Dallas, but I love him, and you know,

1402
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 4: I'm sorry for you that man. That's been you know,

1403
01:07:12,519 --> 01:07:16,599
Speaker 4: apart from apart from my kids hugging me and tell

1404
01:07:16,679 --> 01:07:17,559
Speaker 4: me Daddy is okay.

1405
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,719
Speaker 2: You know, Uh, man, that's been some of the best medicine,

1406
01:07:22,159 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: you know, because that's that's all, you know. That was

1407
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: my That was my goal in telling this, you know,

1408
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:32,039
Speaker 2: it was just it was nice to get it off

1409
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:33,719
Speaker 2: my chest. But my goal was not to get it

1410
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:34,559
Speaker 2: off of my chest.

1411
01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:37,159
Speaker 4: It was to let people know that my bob other

1412
01:07:37,239 --> 01:07:40,239
Speaker 4: Man is a hero and I'm here because he saved

1413
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,559
Speaker 4: my butt. My children are able to run to me

1414
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,039
Speaker 4: for me to pick them up when I get home

1415
01:07:46,119 --> 01:07:46,719
Speaker 4: from work.

1416
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,039
Speaker 2: Because Dallas isn't here anymore. And I just wanted people

1417
01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:51,239
Speaker 2: to know that because he deserves it. He was a

1418
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,599
Speaker 2: good boy when I went to get him from the

1419
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: guy that I got him from. He was known around

1420
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,639
Speaker 2: the neighborhood and.

1421
01:07:58,119 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 4: He h he had There was a little rabbit that

1422
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 4: lived in the bushes outside this guy's house, and Dallas was.

1423
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: Friends with it.

1424
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 4: Monster dog, Monster dog, and Dallas was friends with this

1425
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,639
Speaker 4: little rabbit. The guy told me, he said, there's a

1426
01:08:09,679 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 4: rabbit lists in the bushes that place. When and when

1427
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 4: I went to pick him up, you know, I had

1428
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 4: bought him from this guy, and uh, you know, I

1429
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,039
Speaker 4: sent him the money, went to pick him up, and uh,

1430
01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:22,239
Speaker 4: the people across the street. Uh, these two older ladies

1431
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,359
Speaker 4: come out and then I'm putting Dllas in my trud

1432
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:27,279
Speaker 4: They're like, oh, no, where is Dallas going?

1433
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:30,319
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I know, Ray didn't tell

1434
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 2: y'all he's going to live with me, and uh, man,

1435
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 2: they were so upset.

1436
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,239
Speaker 4: Everybody loved him, and you know, everybody deserves or you know,

1437
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:41,079
Speaker 4: he deserves for anybody who wants to hear it or

1438
01:08:41,119 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 4: cares to hear it, to know what he did for me,

1439
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:46,520
Speaker 4: you know, And that was my goal and it's been.

1440
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 4: You know, Vick has done the best job in the

1441
01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 4: world of helping me tell this story. And y'all have

1442
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 4: done such a wonderful job. Whoever's listening, whoever you know

1443
01:08:56,039 --> 01:08:57,239
Speaker 4: told me they were thinking about us.

1444
01:08:57,319 --> 01:08:59,079
Speaker 2: You know, I love y'all to debt. I don't even

1445
01:08:59,119 --> 01:09:00,199
Speaker 2: know you, but thank you.

1446
01:09:03,159 --> 01:09:06,199
Speaker 3: That's awfully well said. I told you not to be

1447
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:08,399
Speaker 3: at a dead horse, but I told you. The listeners

1448
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:11,319
Speaker 3: who listened to the show, they're just amazing. And also,

1449
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: like I touched on, they have no clue how much

1450
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,119
Speaker 3: they help you and other eyewitnesses when it comes to

1451
01:09:16,199 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 3: dealing with your encolendar. So yeah, for that and other reasons,

1452
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 3: I just can't thank them enough. I really can't. But

1453
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 3: having said that, Kim, please remember I've told you several

1454
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 3: times you're never going to be alone in this. If

1455
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,399
Speaker 3: you ever do need help in the future, if you

1456
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,319
Speaker 3: start to regress, then yeah, by all means, like you

1457
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:36,279
Speaker 3: did this week, just reach out to me and let

1458
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:39,239
Speaker 3: me know, and yeah, we'll set up another conversation so

1459
01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:42,039
Speaker 3: I can find out what's wrong, what's ailing in. We'll

1460
01:09:42,079 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 3: get that addressed, all right.

1461
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:49,079
Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, And I appreciate you so much, been too

1462
01:09:49,119 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 2: good to me.

1463
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,399
Speaker 3: Well you deserve it, That's what I'm here for. Glad

1464
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 3: to do it. But yeah, having said all of that,

1465
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,039
Speaker 3: thanks again so much for your time for coming on

1466
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:02,319
Speaker 3: and sharing this experience, and now draining. It's been on

1467
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 3: you to share it, especially twice here, but every time

1468
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,359
Speaker 3: you do it, you're gonna grow from the experience, so

1469
01:10:09,399 --> 01:10:12,399
Speaker 3: it's been a good reason to do so. But having

1470
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 3: said that, thanks again so much for your time and

1471
01:10:15,279 --> 01:10:16,039
Speaker 3: have a great night.

1472
01:10:17,359 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 2: Likewise, big thank you, brother, You're.

1473
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 3: Welcome, We'll see you. And to everyone out there listening,

1474
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:29,119
Speaker 3: thanks again so much for listening. Thanks again so much

1475
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: for the support that you offer these eyewitnesses. Like I said,

1476
01:10:33,359 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 3: if you've had a dog mean encounter and we'll like

1477
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,520
Speaker 3: to be a guest on the show, or if you'd

1478
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 3: like to just speak with me about it in private

1479
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,159
Speaker 3: because you need help, well either way, please just go

1480
01:10:44,319 --> 01:10:48,239
Speaker 3: to Dogmanancounters dot com and submit a report. If you

1481
01:10:48,279 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 3: can do that, then I'll contact you to schedule a

1482
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 3: conversation with you so we can take it from there.

1483
01:10:54,319 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 3: But having said all that, thanks again so much for

1484
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:17,159
Speaker 3: listening everyone, and have a great weekends.