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Speaker 3: much for joining us for another livestream episode of Dogman
Speaker 3: Encounters Radio. I really appreciate you tuning in. On last
Speaker 3: week's show, our guest Kim came on and told us
Speaker 3: about a horrific encounter he had where a dog man
Speaker 3: actually attacked him, apparently him and his friend one night
Speaker 3: in December, and if it wouldn't have been for his
Speaker 3: heroic American bulldog Dallas, there's a strong possibility that he
Speaker 3: might not be here today. Well, due to time constraints,
Speaker 3: we had time for him to tell us about the
Speaker 3: particulars of his encounter, but we ran out of time.
Speaker 3: I didn't have a chance to ask him the multitude
Speaker 3: of questions that I've got for him. So luckily he's
Speaker 3: agreed to come back on and answer those questions that
Speaker 3: I had and answer your questions from the live chat
Speaker 3: as well well, without further ado, Let's bring him in
Speaker 3: here now and get him in so we can do
Speaker 3: that Kim, thanks so much for coming.
Speaker 2: Back and thanks for having me back.
Speaker 3: Man, Well, that's great having you. We appreciate your time, Kim.
Speaker 3: For the listeners who missed last week's show, please tell
Speaker 3: him about yourself.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm a I was born in Memphis, Tennessee. I'm
Speaker 4: thirty one years old now live in.
Speaker 2: North Central Mississippi.
Speaker 4: I have three daughters, married to my beautiful wife, Katie.
Speaker 4: She's a nurse. I run past Control company. I like
Speaker 4: to hunt, liked I said, love, love to hunt, loved
Speaker 4: to fish. Uh, I love having a house full of dogs.
Speaker 4: I'm just a simple guy from North Mississippi. Man, it's
Speaker 4: not too much about me, that's uh it's crazier off.
Speaker 3: The wall, nothing crazy about you. But that encounter you
Speaker 3: had last December, that sure does fit the description of crazy.
Speaker 3: That was something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, it's uh.
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely the single most crazy thing that's ever happened
Speaker 4: to me and my entire life without a out.
Speaker 3: Well, I can understand why you would say that. I
Speaker 3: hope that remains the craziest thing that has ever happened
Speaker 3: to you as the years go by. I hope nothing
Speaker 3: else approaches that because that was just too much Kim,
Speaker 3: it's been a week since you came on and told
Speaker 3: us about the details of that encounter. How are you now,
Speaker 3: now you've had a week between doing that and now,
Speaker 3: is it then the easier to think about and deal with?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? You know, it's like we've you know, like we said,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say, you know, if I lived to be
Speaker 4: one hundred and ten, you know, I would.
Speaker 2: Never really just say yeah, it's it's easy. But man,
Speaker 2: you know, being able.
Speaker 4: To to get it out because you know, that was
Speaker 4: the first that was the first you know, I guess
Speaker 4: talking to you before we did the show, telling you
Speaker 4: the story. That was the first time I'd actually ever
Speaker 4: told and the story and how everything went down. But uh,
Speaker 4: you know, man, between between yourself and I told this
Speaker 4: big for y'all who are listened. It was made for
Speaker 4: this line of work. The dude was the dude of
Speaker 4: God's send. Thank you and uh and the people in
Speaker 4: the comments, which I did take the time to read.
Speaker 4: I don't know how many there are, and I'm sure
Speaker 4: there's way more now, but the ones that were there
Speaker 4: when I read them then they are so so. I mean,
Speaker 4: the support was amazing and having gone so long without
Speaker 4: any kind of.
Speaker 2: You know, support of any kind. Really, that was that
Speaker 2: was was. That was nice. It meant a lot to me.
Speaker 2: I can't say thank you enough.
Speaker 3: I told you the listeners are incredible. They really are.
Speaker 3: They don't know what a difference they make. I try
Speaker 3: to remind them of this, but yeah, they have no
Speaker 3: clue the difference they make. And these eyewitnesses lives to
Speaker 3: make a huge difference. They really do. Yeah, that's for sure. Kim.
Speaker 3: On last week's show, you said that your family moved
Speaker 3: away from Memphis is when you were a kid, after
Speaker 3: you saw something that no kid should see. Please expand
Speaker 3: on that for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, uh this this counted into the you know list
Speaker 4: of crazy things that have happened in my experience.
Speaker 2: Was with what I fear with y'all still topped it.
Speaker 4: But man, I was, Uh, I was in the second
Speaker 4: grade towards the end of the school year, and uh,
Speaker 4: my mom used to drink heavily and one day and
Speaker 4: this isn't something her and I've talked about, but my
Speaker 4: my best guess is that she she got a little
Speaker 4: too loaded and went to sleep and forgot to come
Speaker 4: get me from school. But I walked home from school
Speaker 4: before I had three best friends. There was my buddy Cody,
Speaker 4: and there were the twin brothers, Darius and Derias. And uh,
Speaker 4: their names were spelled exactly the same, they just pronounced
Speaker 4: them differently. They were our best friends in the whole world.
Speaker 4: And uh, the way I went in order.
Speaker 2: From the school to my house, it was Darius de
Speaker 2: Rys's house at Cody's house and my house was which
Speaker 2: was farther away from both of theirs than they were
Speaker 2: from each other. Uh, but we strike out walking home.
Speaker 4: We jumped the car rider line, snuck away from theaters,
Speaker 4: walked home and uh, you know, we had passed both
Speaker 4: their places, and I was on my own and I
Speaker 4: was walking by this gas station on a corner and uh,
Speaker 4: from what I remember, it was one of the.
Speaker 2: First gas stations.
Speaker 4: Was like like an all glass front where you could
Speaker 4: see it. You can see everything going on in the store.
Speaker 2: And uh, I.
Speaker 4: Walked up to this corner and I pressed the what's
Speaker 4: the crosswalk button? Waiting on men waiting on a chance
Speaker 4: across the street, and uh.
Speaker 2: This car is green Volvo, never forget.
Speaker 4: It pulls into a parking spot, fast, screeches, hits the brakes,
Speaker 4: parks and the driver gets out, uh runs around to
Speaker 4: the guy who was in the front passenger seat and
Speaker 4: starts putting hands on this guy, like beating him through
Speaker 4: the wind. And the person who had been sitting behind
Speaker 4: the driver then proceeded to get out, run around behind
Speaker 4: the driver who was now standing up, hitting the person
Speaker 4: through the passenger front passenger window and.
Speaker 2: Tried to pull that guy off.
Speaker 4: Well, he caught an elbow and when he did, he
Speaker 4: fell down, and as he hit the ground, he reached
Speaker 4: in his and his back was to me, so I
Speaker 4: couldn't see what he did at first, but I now
Speaker 4: know that he reached in his pants, he pulled out
Speaker 4: a pistol and shucked one and shot that guy dead
Speaker 4: right there.
Speaker 2: In front of me. And uh man, I was, you know,
Speaker 2: I was seven or eight.
Speaker 4: I couldn't have been any older in eight, because I
Speaker 4: started third grade here where I live at eight years old.
Speaker 4: And uh man, even even that young, I'm not the
Speaker 4: smartest guy in the world, but I was never just stupid.
Speaker 2: And I saw that, and.
Speaker 4: I was like, he saw me, see that he's fixing
Speaker 4: to shoot me. He's not gonna let me get away
Speaker 4: right now. And I pulled my backpack straps really tight
Speaker 4: and struck out, didn't wait for.
Speaker 2: The cross light nothing. I was gone and they went
Speaker 2: the other direction.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't until I was all the way down
Speaker 4: the street, you know, close to my house, that I
Speaker 4: realized that they weren't behind me. Because the whole way there,
Speaker 4: I was like, man, that guy saw me, you know,
Speaker 4: saw me or saw me, witness that, Like he's gonna
Speaker 4: get me.
Speaker 2: You know, he's not gonna let me go and tell
Speaker 2: And I didn't tell anybody, but uh, man, I ran home,
Speaker 2: made it home.
Speaker 4: My mom was asleep on the couch, and Uh, I
Speaker 4: went locked myself in my bedroom. And I don't as
Speaker 4: a kid, you know, you don't have much sense of time.
Speaker 2: But however, long later, it feels like hours to me.
Speaker 4: My dad comes home and uh his dad worked long
Speaker 4: hours and uh comes home and mom was sleeping.
Speaker 2: He couldn't find me, and I heard him call me.
Speaker 4: But I was I was still terrified, like I was
Speaker 4: still scared to say anything, you know, and uh, he
Speaker 4: comes to my bedroom and I was locked. I locked
Speaker 4: my bedroom door. He comes to the bedroom door and
Speaker 4: he's like knocking, cam. You know, buddy, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Man? What's Uh. We opened the door for me and
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything.
Speaker 4: Finally he kicked my door in, Like he straight kicked
Speaker 4: my bedroom door in, and uh, he got it out
Speaker 4: of me.
Speaker 2: What happened? And uh, like I said, we had a
Speaker 2: yard sale.
Speaker 4: He sold everything that he didn't need to take with us,
Speaker 4: and we moved here into a rental house and him
Speaker 4: and my grandfather built a house that we then moved
Speaker 4: into and that's where I lived for years and years.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's rough. I can understand why you did move.
Speaker 3: That's horrible. That really is what do you what can
Speaker 3: you do? Yeah, i'd say, so wow, Yeah, I was
Speaker 3: thinking you were going to tell me it was some
Speaker 3: kind of an easier going encryptid sighting or something like that,
Speaker 3: or you saw a ghost. I didn't know it was
Speaker 3: going to be that intense.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know which one I would have preferred, to
Speaker 4: be honest, it maybe maybe an easier going running in
Speaker 4: with some kind of creature that you know, didn't want
Speaker 4: to hurt me or something might have been a little
Speaker 4: easier to deal with, harder to explain, easier to deal with.
Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, no, that's ah that's what happened, and
Speaker 4: I've I've thought haut some some of my good friends
Speaker 4: know that story. I really don't tell it unless somebody
Speaker 4: wants to know. But uh, yeah, that's that was it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can understand why you don't reveal that and
Speaker 3: let someone asks about it. Kim. I know there's a
Speaker 3: fairly good sized group of people who are listening to
Speaker 3: tonight's show who missed last week's show. Somehow, some way,
Speaker 3: with that in mind, would you mind giving us a
Speaker 3: ten thousand foot overview of your encounter for those people
Speaker 3: to bring them up to speed so they can understand
Speaker 3: what you've been through. At least they'll get a grip
Speaker 3: on what you've been through. And then after you've done that,
Speaker 3: then I've got plenty of questions for you.
Speaker 1: Sure, So, long story short. Mine grandparents farm, or it
Speaker 1: was a farm growing up.
Speaker 2: Now they just they got a bunch of thickets. They're old.
Speaker 2: But on this place I ran it.
Speaker 4: My whole life literally ran on foot, you know, barefoot
Speaker 4: sometimes with my grandparents pack of dog.
Speaker 2: They had a massive I could dogs at their house.
Speaker 4: I remember at one point they had nine dogs and
Speaker 4: uh someone were really big, so you know, they they'd
Speaker 4: cut me loose with my bb gun or on my
Speaker 4: go card, or you know, just on foot, or do
Speaker 4: whatever I wanted and send the dogs with me. And
Speaker 4: you know they knew have anything to worry about. I
Speaker 4: ran this place for years, years and years and years. Man,
Speaker 4: never never saw anything crazy. I don't ever feel like
Speaker 4: I was any danger. I mean, I you know, I
Speaker 4: mean there were big packs of hogs and stuff there,
Speaker 4: but uh, on this place. Grandparents still lived there. My
Speaker 4: grandmother brought to my attention she'd been loosing more chickens
Speaker 4: than normal.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Some people neighbors across the road to the right and
Speaker 4: left had lost animals or sorry, not the not the
Speaker 4: ones that left. They live in the old house that
Speaker 4: I grew up in. But these other neighbors had lost dogs.
Speaker 4: Some of the dogs were old, so it could have
Speaker 4: been they went and died from old age. But you know,
Speaker 4: it was just it kind of seemed like coyotes had
Speaker 4: been running rampant on the place. So I rounded up
Speaker 4: my buddy Tyler, my best friends, and thought of hey, man,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to do something about these coyotes on
Speaker 4: the place, which we had done before.
Speaker 2: You know, it's fun you know, we enjoyed their coyotes.
Speaker 4: Here in the state of Mississippi, coyotes, foxes, and beavers
Speaker 4: are nuisance animals. You can shoot as many of you,
Speaker 4: as many of them as you want, any time.
Speaker 2: Of the day anywhere.
Speaker 4: You know, as long as I'm trespassing on smals property
Speaker 4: and there's no bag limit, you can shoot as many
Speaker 4: of them as you want. So uh, you know that
Speaker 4: in mind, we were like, yeah, let's do this. We'll uh,
Speaker 4: I'll make sure Grandmama's chickens are cool. And you know,
Speaker 4: people ain't gonna be losing dogs round here if I
Speaker 4: have anything to do with it.
Speaker 2: You know, I love my dogs, won't mind my dogs
Speaker 2: getting toed it off.
Speaker 4: But uh, Tower and I and Dallas, my dogs, we
Speaker 4: geared up and took full whether down to my.
Speaker 2: Grandparents pastor, got to my grandparents house, parked.
Speaker 4: At the barn, popped on the full wheeler, rode down
Speaker 4: into what we call what I've always called the new
Speaker 4: pasture is where they used to cut hay and uh
Speaker 4: laid up under a box stand of mind shooting coyotes
Speaker 4: and uh uh. At some point my dog Dallas, who
Speaker 4: was uh, I guess I should have said Dallas was
Speaker 4: Dallas had tactical training.
Speaker 2: He was a personal protection dog. Still still the dog
Speaker 2: that my family knew and loved.
Speaker 4: He just, you know, he can't you can't hit anybody
Speaker 4: in front of him because he'll bite you.
Speaker 2: He was trained to do so. And uh, we.
Speaker 4: Take him with us, you know, no intentions whatsoever of
Speaker 4: having him have anything to do with the coyotes we
Speaker 4: were shooting.
Speaker 2: He just he loved to go out and I hadn't
Speaker 2: taken him out in forever.
Speaker 4: And it was a wasn't that cold, you know, It's
Speaker 4: honestly a good feeling night for you know, even for
Speaker 4: the beginning of December. But uh, we see something down
Speaker 4: at the end of the field and can't make out
Speaker 4: what it is. And after, you know, a couple of minutes,
Speaker 4: it disappears. Dallas was alerted.
Speaker 2: To it, and I don't know if he knew what
Speaker 2: it was, but he knew that it was something hostile
Speaker 2: and it was a threat. And uh, I.
Speaker 4: Was walking out to grab a coyote and he started
Speaker 4: barking at me, and we can't figure out what it is.
Speaker 4: I dragged the coyote back. Dallas calms down. Tyler looks
Speaker 4: through a scope and he can tell that something something's there.
Speaker 4: We don't really know again what it is, uh, and
Speaker 4: it disappears from views. So you know, we went on
Speaker 4: or tried to go on about the rest of our night,
Speaker 4: trying to call in the rest of the codies, and
Speaker 4: we were hoping we could get to come into the call.
Speaker 4: There's been a lot of shots and reasons for them
Speaker 4: not to come back. But uh, not too long after that,
Speaker 4: this thing got to be massive dog man. And I
Speaker 4: did find out the branch that I that I used
Speaker 4: as a gauge of how tall this thing was. That
Speaker 4: branch is seven feet three inches. The bottom of this
Speaker 4: branch is probably a six six or so inches stick
Speaker 4: seven feet three inches off the ground, and this thing's
Speaker 4: head was probably scraping the bottom of that thing. And uh,
Speaker 4: it shows itself comes down the hill to our left.
Speaker 2: Stays inside the tree line.
Speaker 4: It was a lot of moonlight that night, it was
Speaker 4: really bright, and it uh, it eventually walks out.
Speaker 2: It's got mental you know.
Speaker 4: When I initially talked to Vic, I was like, man,
Speaker 4: you know, I was nervous, and I guess I said
Speaker 4: it the way it should have been said.
Speaker 2: Last week. It scared me. I was scared. You know.
Speaker 2: I fear no man, I fear no dog.
Speaker 4: You know, there's not a lot in this world that
Speaker 4: scares me, outside of like my kids getting hurt or
Speaker 4: something like that. But I was, Uh, if I've ever
Speaker 4: been afraid, I was afraid then, you know then, and
Speaker 4: you know when I watched a boy shoot that fella
Speaker 4: as a kid, But uh, I was afraid. And even
Speaker 4: in spite of that, I didn't want Tyler to do
Speaker 4: what he did. But Tyler, and you know, out of
Speaker 4: I guess fear for our safety, he didn't have any
Speaker 4: ill intent except towards this thing.
Speaker 2: Tyler fires a shot at it, and he hits it.
Speaker 4: And once he shot, I unloaded my rifle and uh,
Speaker 4: and I hit it twice. I heard, you know, I
Speaker 4: heard the contact and uh, it runs back off.
Speaker 2: Into the trees.
Speaker 4: I give Tyler a few choice words because it was
Speaker 4: coming out of my mouth. No don't, because he says, hey, Camn,
Speaker 4: I'm fixing around at it, and uh, and he shoots
Speaker 4: and I was in.
Speaker 2: The middle of being like, no, don't.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I told him what I thought about him, and
Speaker 4: he hops on the full wheeler, cuts headlights on spins
Speaker 4: to where it's pointing to this thing, and man, it
Speaker 4: roars at us and it steps Dallas off, and uh,
Speaker 4: you know at some point, you know, a few seconds
Speaker 4: after that, Towers like, man, we got to go. We
Speaker 4: got it back to the truck. So I try to
Speaker 4: I've got my I picked my eight three eight up
Speaker 4: off the ground. I've got it over my shoulder. I've
Speaker 4: got my pistol and under my other arm. Have Dallas
Speaker 4: and Vic remind me, I have a picture of myself
Speaker 4: holding Dallas so you can see I'm six' one, you know,
Speaker 4: two twenty five. I've got a picture of me holding him,
Speaker 4: so you can have a gauge how big this dog was.
Speaker 4: I was trying to pick up with one arm, but uh,
Speaker 4: I pick him up, and I go to hop on
Speaker 4: the full wheeler and Tyler and I was like, hey, man, go,
Speaker 4: you know, paddle to the middle. Don't slow down, you know,
Speaker 4: from anything, and uh, by that time, He's like, hold on, man,
Speaker 4: look he's leaving. He's running away. So I turn around
Speaker 4: and this thing is booking it up the hill.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: It books it up the hill and out of sight,
Speaker 4: and talking to Vic, I was like, man, he you know,
Speaker 4: he was headed for a pine tree thicket that that
Speaker 4: marks the border at the back of our property. And
Speaker 4: I was like, man, unless he went up to the
Speaker 4: top of that hill and immediately cut off and went
Speaker 4: another direction, which it turns out that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 4: I say, he I assume he, I guess that's exactly
Speaker 4: what happened. Me and Tyler gather ourselves and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: Dallas was ready to fight.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You know, we were in his eyes, we were in
Speaker 4: trouble and his job was clear cut at that moment,
Speaker 4: and he was prepared to do it with no questions asked.
Speaker 4: You know that that thing he stood no chance, but
Speaker 4: he didn't care. It didn't matter to him. Our safety
Speaker 4: is what was what was on his mind. Protection with
Speaker 4: his main goal. And Uh, I dropped down knee and
Speaker 4: I hugged his neck.
Speaker 2: It's like, blah blah, I love you so much.
Speaker 4: You're the You're the best dog I've ever had in
Speaker 4: my life, you know. And Uh, after me and Tyler
Speaker 4: gathered ourselves.
Speaker 2: Where I do, let's get out of here, you know,
Speaker 2: Let's let's get onto the truck.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 2: We gotta go.
Speaker 4: And uh, it was it was it Somewhere between leaving
Speaker 4: that pasture and getting almost back to my truck.
Speaker 2: I had told myself, Man, we fixing.
Speaker 4: I have to pull up to my grandpa's house, because
Speaker 4: we know we weren't maybe a half mile from the
Speaker 4: house when that where that happened. And then as we
Speaker 4: get towards the truck, Man, we're I mean, we're we're
Speaker 4: with an I sid I could have thrown a rock
Speaker 4: and hit it.
Speaker 2: There's an old chicken coop.
Speaker 4: Where once you pass it leaving going towards that pasture
Speaker 4: we had come from it, you kind of know that
Speaker 4: you've passed all the buildings, every all the structure that
Speaker 4: my grandpa has on the front of the property. And
Speaker 4: then this thing had circled and flanked us and bushed us.
Speaker 4: It was crouched behind that chicken coop. And uh, and
Speaker 4: of course none of us saw Dallas didn't see it,
Speaker 4: he didn't smell it, he didn't hear it.
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 4: It comes out of nowhere, and I hear a roar,
Speaker 4: and then I uh, and I didn't realize I'd been
Speaker 4: knocked out. Tower just recently told me that I was
Speaker 4: completely unconscious on the ground, because the next day I
Speaker 4: hear this, and then I'm on the ground and I
Speaker 4: hear what sounds like dogs fighting, and you know, Tyler's
Speaker 4: screaming for Dallas, like he's screaming atop his lungs. And
Speaker 4: I immediately realized. And man, you talk about a jolt,
Speaker 4: like somebody's sent a jolt of electricity through my body.
Speaker 4: It made all my hair stand up.
Speaker 2: I'm bald.
Speaker 4: I shaved my head, but all the hair on the
Speaker 4: back of my neck, on my leg, everywhere, it all
Speaker 4: stands up. And I realized that Dallas has gotten a
Speaker 4: hold of this thing, or it's gotten a hold of him.
Speaker 4: And I can't hardly see my visions blurry because I mean,
Speaker 4: it wrung it. It put me on Queer Street. Man,
Speaker 4: I was I was rocked and uh and but I
Speaker 4: had my pistol in my hand. I never let go
Speaker 4: of it. I had a hold of Dallas and I
Speaker 4: had a hold of my pistol. And when it hit me,
Speaker 4: everything went everywhere, knocked. The four wheeler knocked me ten feet,
Speaker 4: like I've been back to this spot, and it sent
Speaker 4: me a good ten feet, but probably before I ever
Speaker 4: touched the ground. But man, Dallas and this thing are
Speaker 4: tied up and what Tyler says happened was, you know,
Speaker 4: it didn't touch him.
Speaker 2: It tackled me and it knocked that in the process.
Speaker 4: That knock Dallas off four of that Tyler just kind
Speaker 4: of fell and spun around and he landed like on
Speaker 4: his butt with his arm behind him, and uh, he said, Man,
Speaker 4: I looked up and that thing it was on you. Man,
Speaker 4: I couldn't have done anything like you were. You were toast.
Speaker 4: I couldn't help you. I couldn't do anything. And it
Speaker 4: scared me to death. But uh, man, I don't know
Speaker 4: if this thing was gonna grab me and take me
Speaker 4: off somewhere or try to tear my head. I had,
Speaker 4: I have no idea, but uh it never got to man,
Speaker 4: because Dallas hit him like a freight train, mouth open.
Speaker 2: Fowers the dude, he looked like a torpedo out of
Speaker 2: a submarine.
Speaker 4: He came through mouth open and got a mouthful of
Speaker 4: meat and fur right up under the left side of
Speaker 4: this thing, up under its ribs, and uh, it didn't
Speaker 4: like it. Dallas had a hold of him, and you know,
Speaker 4: I guess for the best he could. He was giving
Speaker 4: him what for and it couldn't sling him loose it
Speaker 4: grabs him and uh, round round about then as I had,
Speaker 4: I had made my feet and uh and my vision
Speaker 4: was you know enough. Well I knew what I was
Speaker 4: looking at because I get up and me and this
Speaker 4: thing are looking at each other like we're and I
Speaker 4: and I say that like I'm looking at a person
Speaker 4: or something. It's looking at me. Tyler's over, Tyler's yelling,
Speaker 4: there's another person here. Tyler is the one who shot first.
Speaker 4: This thing is looking at me like it knows that's
Speaker 4: my dog. I've got your dog, I've got your whatever,
Speaker 4: I've got your friend. And it was like, man, it
Speaker 4: was like he was challenging because by this time, Man
Speaker 4: Dallas had had enough. He had bit him a couple
Speaker 4: of times, and uh, he just you know, all the
Speaker 4: fight was gone from him.
Speaker 2: Man, he wasn't it wasn't dead at that point, but man, it.
Speaker 4: Was you know, I started to I got really really mad,
Speaker 4: like rage just grabbed me, like it consumed me. And
Speaker 4: you know, at that moment, I wasn't scared. I didn't
Speaker 4: give a crap. I wasn't you know, I wasn't armed either,
Speaker 4: I didn't have anything. But the first thought in my
Speaker 4: head was, you know, go get down, get this thing,
Speaker 4: get him and uh, man, I start towards him, and
Speaker 4: it never ever took its thighs off me the whole time.
Speaker 4: And it raises Dallas up and just I'm on the ground, man,
Speaker 4: And that's he was alive until that point.
Speaker 5: And uh and uh you know, now I couldn't have
Speaker 5: made it.
Speaker 4: And if I did make it, you know, it could
Speaker 4: have let go of him and killed me. And he'd
Speaker 4: already saved me once, you know, he wasn't gonna save
Speaker 4: me again. But uh, it was like it was telling me,
Speaker 4: like this is what you get, but it was it
Speaker 4: was challenging me, man the whole time. It never we
Speaker 4: never looked away from each other. We were locked eyes
Speaker 4: the whole time. I didn't look at what I was
Speaker 4: stepping on. I could have run the foo wheler could
Speaker 4: have been on the ground in front of me, and
Speaker 4: I would have run smooth into it and trip because
Speaker 4: I was not paying attention.
Speaker 2: But uh, I make it.
Speaker 4: And this thing, I say, I say, we were twenty
Speaker 4: maybe twenty five feet apart when when that happened, and
Speaker 4: I had already struck out. I was in motion, and uh,
Speaker 4: and it dumped out on the ground and it did
Speaker 4: not FaZe me once. I mean, you know, it occurred
Speaker 4: to me that had happened.
Speaker 2: But my my.
Speaker 4: Was telling me, go, go go, and uh man, I
Speaker 4: made it halfway or so to this thing, and uh
Speaker 4: Tyler had at some point stopped screaming, and I guess
Speaker 4: found my rifle on the ground or under the foe
Speaker 4: whel or wherever he found it. And uh you know,
Speaker 4: before we had left from down in the new pasture,
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 2: Emptied it, but I reloaded it, put.
Speaker 4: The five in there and uh man, Tyler opened fired
Speaker 4: from the hip like John Wayne and let this thing
Speaker 4: have it and hit him five times, five times from
Speaker 4: you know, twenty yards twenty fie at seven yards roughly
Speaker 4: with a three o eight and.
Speaker 2: It runs, it turns und It didn't drop.
Speaker 4: It wasn't and if it died, it died away from us,
Speaker 4: because you know, it ran away from me because in
Speaker 4: my mind, I was like, it's getting away. I'm never
Speaker 4: gonna catch him. He's gone, he's gonna get away. He's
Speaker 4: gonna get away with.
Speaker 2: Everything that he did.
Speaker 4: And uh but man, we and it broke my arm
Speaker 4: when it, you know, when it hit me, and.
Speaker 2: Uh something I didn't say, you.
Speaker 4: Know, it was that's stupid, I guess, but just to
Speaker 4: put everything into perspective for what I'm going to say
Speaker 4: at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, once, once it was gone.
Speaker 4: You know, I roiseed, Dallas is on the ground dead
Speaker 4: behind me, and uh I turned around and man, I,
Speaker 4: you know, I just couldn't contain myself.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I run to him and I put my hand under
Speaker 4: his head and he was man, he was just bloody
Speaker 4: and he was broken, and and my world was crashing
Speaker 4: down around, you know, like right there. And uh, man,
Speaker 4: I punched the ground like I screamed and punched the
Speaker 4: ground and I broke the mess out like my left
Speaker 4: hand was purple and yellow and all kinds. And you
Speaker 4: know the time, I didn't realize that it was broken,
Speaker 4: but I was so mad, you know. And uh, and
Speaker 4: I pass out and it was I passed out.
Speaker 2: I woke up on my back. I was holding my
Speaker 2: head off the ground.
Speaker 4: And that was when he told me that my arm
Speaker 4: was broken and my nose was bleeding because I had
Speaker 4: fallen on my face.
Speaker 2: And uh he had taken Dallas and put him in
Speaker 2: my truck.
Speaker 4: And uh, he was like, man, we got to get
Speaker 4: you to the hospital and I was like, well, we
Speaker 4: gotta gotta.
Speaker 2: Go tell Grandpa there's a werewolf out here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and when that happened, Man, that happened like maybe
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty yards from the house if my
Speaker 4: grandfather had been out. And then again, this is one
Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. We started shooting coyotes around about
Speaker 4: nine o'clock and uh nine o'clock, nine thirty probably, and uh,
Speaker 4: this is between one and one thirty. And you know,
Speaker 4: I was still going, I knew he's gonna custo me,
Speaker 4: so I was I was still gonna wake him up.
Speaker 4: And uh we walked to the truck and Tyler had
Speaker 4: found the guns and my pistol was sitting there, and man,
Speaker 4: just you know that he was when when I got up,
Speaker 4: I was, I was, I was walking up on the
Speaker 4: truck and I was just hoping that you know, I
Speaker 4: knew better, but I was still just kind of just
Speaker 4: kind of hoping he'd have his head up, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe his tail would dump at me or something.
Speaker 2: And it was not.
Speaker 4: He was still there was cold, laying there, stiff, and uh,
Speaker 4: I was scratching his ear, you know, just thinking like.
Speaker 2: Big goofball. You know you could have lived. But uh,
Speaker 2: he saved me. Man, he chose to chose to give
Speaker 2: it up and to save.
Speaker 4: Me, and man all over again, I was mad. I was,
Speaker 4: you know, just just I don't know the words to say.
Speaker 4: I just in rage, just and just overcome with rage
Speaker 4: like I have never felt before. And I grabbed my
Speaker 4: pistol and I stepped one into it and uh and
Speaker 4: this this is why why I mentioned all the things
Speaker 4: that were wrong with me. But I'm going I had
Speaker 4: planned right there, you know, and on split second to
Speaker 4: go after this thing because I knew, I knew where
Speaker 4: it had gone or where it had headed off to.
Speaker 2: So in hindsight, I have nothing but a pistol. That's
Speaker 2: all I grabbed was a pistol.
Speaker 4: I've got a broken hand on what My left hand's broken,
Speaker 4: my right arm is broken in two places.
Speaker 2: I also had two cracked ribs on the right side
Speaker 2: because it hit me on the right side.
Speaker 4: I'm bleeding, my face is bleeding. And I struck out
Speaker 4: to go find this thing. And Tyler, you know, Ben mean,
Speaker 4: he's you know, I know him shooting this thing is
Speaker 4: probably what jump started everything. But man, he didn't mean
Speaker 4: anything by it. And he's a good friend. He was
Speaker 4: just trying to protect us. And then he was trying
Speaker 4: to protect me too, because like like the you know,
Speaker 4: irrational person I was in that moment, I struck out
Speaker 4: to go find this thing, and you know, he runs
Speaker 4: and grabs me and he's all I came to know,
Speaker 4: you can't go stop, you know, and uh I slapped
Speaker 4: his arm off of him.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, you get off of me, don't
Speaker 2: touch me, and uh he let me go a few
Speaker 2: more steps.
Speaker 4: He's like, man, you know, you really want your daughters
Speaker 4: to lose their dog and you at the same time
Speaker 4: in the same night, and uh, man just kind of
Speaker 4: took it out of me and I lost it and
Speaker 4: just kind of just kind of hit my knees and.
Speaker 2: You know, we went from there and.
Speaker 4: Tyler helped me in the truck and we went whoop
Speaker 4: my grandpa up and he was he was angry with
Speaker 4: me for waking him up until I told him what happened,
Speaker 4: and uh, I explained this to my grandpa's very stern,
Speaker 4: very no nonsense, very you know, he's he's the.
Speaker 2: Type of person.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you'll ever seen good Fellas, but man,
Speaker 4: Grandpa moves slow because he don't move for anybody. People
Speaker 4: get out of his ways. He's that type of dude,
Speaker 4: you don't you know.
Speaker 2: But I'm his only grandson and his firstborn grandchild at all,
Speaker 2: so I hold a spot in his heart that not
Speaker 2: everybody else could hold, I guess. And man, I told
Speaker 2: him what happened one time, and I did not have
Speaker 2: to tell him, my grandpa, I'm not joking with you,
Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know this is what happened. He
Speaker 2: was like, well, where's Dallas. And we go.
Speaker 4: We look at him and this man, grandpa's seventy five,
Speaker 4: and he's he's he's cut from.
Speaker 2: A different cloth. They don't make him like him anymore.
Speaker 2: And he was like, man, Tyler, you take my truck.
Speaker 2: Y'all go to the hospital. Because Tyler told me, he
Speaker 2: was like, we got to get you to the hospital.
Speaker 2: You got a broken arm, and it was throbbing already
Speaker 2: by that point, but I ain't here.
Speaker 4: I would take my truck and you'll go to the hospital,
Speaker 4: and I go bury bury Dallas, like I was really
Speaker 4: fixing to let him go out in the woods right
Speaker 4: then with a now dog man. But back then I
Speaker 4: had never heard that term before. So there there's a
Speaker 4: were wolf out here somewhere, and yeah, right, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: let you go out. And you know, he was like, well,
Speaker 4: I got my pistol, like Grandpa, give it up, you know.
Speaker 4: So we go and he keeps watch for us and
Speaker 4: holds a pistol. Well we're burying Dallas, and uh, man,
Speaker 4: that was the biggest hole I've ever dug in my
Speaker 4: life in so many ways. And uh, I buried him
Speaker 4: next to my other I had another American bulldog looks
Speaker 4: just like him. His name was Roscoe, and uh Dallas.
Speaker 4: I had to put Roscoe down, unfortunately, and uh that
Speaker 4: was one of the worst days of my life. And
Speaker 4: then I find Dallas and they're identical. They look just
Speaker 4: like each other except their mirrored Dallas and Roscoe are
Speaker 4: both solid white. Roscoe had a brindle mark on his
Speaker 4: left ear. Roscoe Dallas had a brindle mark on his
Speaker 4: right ear, and he was probably thirty pounds bigger. But
Speaker 4: they were identical dogs. And when I found him, I
Speaker 4: was like, I was supposed to find you. You were
Speaker 4: supposed to be with me and my children because they
Speaker 4: were tore up over Roscoe. Being God, they loved that
Speaker 4: dog and Dallas just kind of walked in and was like, hey,
Speaker 4: let me feel that apout everybody, And he did it effortlessly.
Speaker 4: We loved him so much and he loved us too.
Speaker 4: But uh, that's you know, that's why Dallas isn't here anymore,
Speaker 4: because he, uh, he gave it all to keep me
Speaker 4: and Tyler alive. Man, Tyler went home to his that
Speaker 4: thing might have turned finished me off and turned and
Speaker 4: grabbed a hold of Tyler.
Speaker 2: I mean, you never know. There's no telling what would
Speaker 2: have happened.
Speaker 4: But we're both here alive, and you know able to
Speaker 4: tell the story because he saved us. Our children have fathers,
Speaker 4: and our husbands have are sorry, our wives have husbands,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: Because they am. Uh that's a so longer than I
Speaker 2: intended to be, but man, that's that's what happened. Yeh.
Speaker 2: We swoop it did the show on last week.
Speaker 3: No, don't worry about how long it was. I mean,
Speaker 3: I told you it's all about exposure. The more you
Speaker 3: talk about it and think about it, the easier this
Speaker 3: is going to be to deal with. It's never going
Speaker 3: to be easy, but it will get easier. So as
Speaker 3: long as we're working towards that goal, then we're making
Speaker 3: good progress. So, like I said, please don't apologize. I'm
Speaker 3: wondering though, Kim, last week you said that you've got
Speaker 3: Dallas's daughter. How she doing.
Speaker 2: She's a she's a goofball. He's a big old girl. Man.
Speaker 2: She looks just like her daddy. She's her her mother, Rosie.
Speaker 2: It's a She's definitely the sweetest Rosies, the sweetest dog
Speaker 2: I've ever owned.
Speaker 4: I've had a bunch of different dogs that were the
Speaker 4: best in certain categories, but uh, Rosie sweetest can be
Speaker 4: and pre got that from her. But man, she's she's
Speaker 4: like her day Like you can't you know, my wife
Speaker 4: likes the rough house with me and you know, punch
Speaker 4: my arm or you know, wrap me up, hold me
Speaker 4: up and bree don't like that.
Speaker 2: You know, you can't.
Speaker 4: You can't be too rough with somebody in front of her.
Speaker 4: She's like, no, y'all, calm down. I mean, she's every
Speaker 4: bit of Dallas's little girl. Man, She's h My children
Speaker 4: have you know? It was like clockwork, you know, Dallas
Speaker 4: was gone and I had to tell them what I
Speaker 4: had to tell them, fortunately, but uh, you know that
Speaker 4: when when they learned that, you know, Dallas, Dallas is
Speaker 4: in heaven. He's with Roscoe. You know he's not he's
Speaker 4: not coming back anymore.
Speaker 2: I always got him. That's what I told my kids
Speaker 2: and my wife, and uh, they.
Speaker 4: They immediately, you know, just kind of took that start
Speaker 4: for them as much as she could took that spot.
Speaker 2: And man, they and they loved her anyway.
Speaker 4: But now you know, she's the center of the universe,
Speaker 4: and it's uh, I'm so glad I've got it.
Speaker 2: My uncle has her sister, Roscoe and Rosie. I mean sorry,
Speaker 2: Dallas and Rosie had four puppies, the.
Speaker 4: One letter that I actually had between them, and uh,
Speaker 4: my uncle has another female. And my buddies, Tyler's dad
Speaker 4: has Ross has Dallas's uh the biggest son.
Speaker 2: So I get to see them regularly, and uh, I
Speaker 2: don't get to see mo who is the son. I
Speaker 2: don't get to see him as much.
Speaker 4: But man, he's just like his daddy too, except he's clumsy,
Speaker 4: you know, he's big goofball.
Speaker 2: But he's doing good. Man. He's uh, he gets all
Speaker 2: the attention. And she, uh, she serves her purpose.
Speaker 4: Man, She's she's filling the hole in my little girl's
Speaker 4: hearts and that I couldn't really ask much more.
Speaker 3: She sounds to me like she is a chip off
Speaker 3: field block. I want to see some pictures of her
Speaker 3: when you get a chance, could you send them? Timmy?
Speaker 4: Sure, I got a buttload of him. Yeah, I'd be
Speaker 4: glad to videos pictures. My kids sleep on top of her.
Speaker 4: He's like, you know, like the puppy pillow.
Speaker 3: Well that's great. Yeah, it sounds like she is doing
Speaker 3: a great job filling in. This might be a sensitive topic,
Speaker 3: and if it is, don't worry about answering this. But
Speaker 3: if you are okay answering this and addressing this, then
Speaker 3: and please do. What I'm getting at is you contacted
Speaker 3: me last week with a question about a comment that
Speaker 3: you saw that was left for last week's show. Are
Speaker 3: you okay talking about that, sharing what that question was
Speaker 3: all about, and and sharing your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you know, first I screenshoted it so I could,
Speaker 2: you know, I could see more of it.
Speaker 4: But the gist of it is, you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna call this person by name everything, and they weren't
Speaker 4: being this negative because one of the things I said was,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sorry I hate to hear that, and
Speaker 4: you know that that.
Speaker 2: First of all say that, but you know, I just
Speaker 2: think strongly. My opinions are always strong.
Speaker 4: But this person essentially said, you know, sorry for your
Speaker 4: loss of sorry for this, but man, you just didn't
Speaker 4: know you were in this thing's backyard killing its pet
Speaker 4: coyotes and saying, look, you know, to give you an hour,
Speaker 4: I used to do granite countertops.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: To cut a granite countertop out, you got to set
Speaker 4: the saw in the right place. You got to start
Speaker 4: at the right measurement to end up at the right measurement. Dude,
Speaker 4: if you start with a theory that's wrong from the jump,
Speaker 4: you're probably gonna come to the wrong conclusion. And wrong
Speaker 4: is not even the word for the outlook that apparently
Speaker 4: this person had on the situation, because man, I don't
Speaker 4: care how long these things have been around. I don't
Speaker 4: care how big or strong or fast or scary or
Speaker 4: capable of taking my life they are.
Speaker 2: Man, that thing was in my backyard and.
Speaker 4: He's if he's alive, he's full of lead right now
Speaker 4: because he was in my backyard, literally in my backyard
Speaker 4: where I grew up. You know, the the you know
Speaker 4: the notion that I was in this state. Dude, we
Speaker 4: can just do away with that right now.
Speaker 2: You know, that's not that's not something I'm going to entertain,
Speaker 2: you know, And what logic someone would use to.
Speaker 4: Justify that as theirs as their standpoint is just beyond me, because.
Speaker 2: Man's he was on my turf.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying, oh, I own this property. You know,
Speaker 4: I ain't trying to sound like somebody who's trying to
Speaker 4: tell you what they own. But man, that's my family's land.
Speaker 4: That's that's where I grew up.
Speaker 2: And man, that thing.
Speaker 4: Robs something for me because I'm I'm not even gonna
Speaker 4: take my daughters. My my my middle little girl is
Speaker 4: four years old, my oldest. She's you know, she's into
Speaker 4: playing games and watching TV.
Speaker 2: She didn't want to go hunting. She's like, it's cold,
Speaker 2: I want to go.
Speaker 4: But my four year old, man, she wants to go
Speaker 4: hunting with daddy and has been asking me for let's
Speaker 4: say she could she could really articulate, Daddy, I want
Speaker 4: to go hunting.
Speaker 2: It's a lot clearer stuff now. But I'm not going
Speaker 2: to take her.
Speaker 4: You know, I'll never in my life put her anywhere
Speaker 4: where I even have an inkling that something like that
Speaker 4: could happen, and all from one instance. But regardless of that,
Speaker 4: that thing was still on my turf. That thing was
Speaker 4: in my backyard, and you know, you know, to be honest,
Speaker 4: I hope the thing ran out, because man, there was.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of blood. Brother, there was ah.
Speaker 4: I mean that that thing was leaking when he left,
Speaker 4: and I didn't notice it right there in that in
Speaker 4: that moment as it was going down, But man, there was.
Speaker 4: You know, this was in December, and I don't believe
Speaker 4: it rained for a while that But man, I you know,
Speaker 4: two or so weeks. I didn't go out and sit
Speaker 4: in my stand and wait on it until I was
Speaker 4: out of my cat, which I you know, I did
Speaker 4: do that, to be honest with he might have been stupid,
Speaker 4: but I had every intention putting the bullet in this thing.
Speaker 4: But man, that that thing, I mean, it was leaking,
Speaker 4: leaking like there was black bots on the ground for
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 2: And uh, I mean, to be honest, I hope it
Speaker 2: ran off and died.
Speaker 4: But if not, call me crazy, but man, I'd like
Speaker 4: a shot at him just to prove that he better
Speaker 4: not be coming around in my backyard again, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like and if those were his pet coties,
Speaker 4: you know, so what you know, the the beasts of
Speaker 4: the earth, the beasts of the earth are here for us,
Speaker 4: and you know, to be on my property, to come
Speaker 4: out and and try to be And you know, maybe
Speaker 4: maybe if Tyler hadn't shot that thing, you know, maybe
Speaker 4: maybe if he hadn't shot that thing, things wouldn't have
Speaker 4: jumped off like they did. Maybe sure, I'm reasonable, I can,
Speaker 4: you know, I can accept that.
Speaker 3: And but.
Speaker 4: Regardless, that thing had no business being being in any
Speaker 4: kind of close proximity to me, my family's land, my friend,
Speaker 4: my dog, or anything. And if I ever see him
Speaker 4: again and I've got something to put around in him
Speaker 4: with men, I'm gonna put one anywhere I can in him,
Speaker 4: He's gonna know, Yeah, I might, I might try to
Speaker 4: come around and act.
Speaker 2: But because that's that's what most people's testimonies are. You know,
Speaker 2: when I listening to your show because I loved I
Speaker 2: love this show, you know, it's it's it's it's somewhat
Speaker 2: comforting to me.
Speaker 4: Here in other people's experiences, some are similar, some are
Speaker 4: way different. Some of them say these things show up
Speaker 4: and you think it's gonna get you, and it acts spooking,
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you around and it's gone. Man,
Speaker 4: maybe that's what would have happened. But you know, even
Speaker 4: if that was, even if that would have been the
Speaker 4: extent of what what would have happened if Tower had
Speaker 4: shot this thing. Man, you're not gonna show up and
Speaker 4: try to spook me and man, get out of here, like,
Speaker 4: that's not you know, I'm not. I'm not that type
Speaker 4: of person.
Speaker 2: Man, you know.
Speaker 4: I I was scared in that moment because that's you know,
Speaker 4: I was about to say a fairy tale. It's a nightmare,
Speaker 4: a living, walking nightmare. I watched werewolf movies as a kid.
Speaker 4: I was I was intrigued with I loved it. It
Speaker 4: was scary, especially as a kid, but they were just movies.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, boom, it's here and
Speaker 4: it's real and you're dealing with it. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: just you know, I'm just not. You're not You're not
Speaker 4: gonna walk out and be and act scary to me.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're gonna eat lead if you do something
Speaker 4: like that. And he did, and he will again if
Speaker 4: I see him again. But just yeah, no, And it's
Speaker 4: because he was in my domain.
Speaker 2: You know this, I'm this.
Speaker 4: I'm not a not king of the earth anything like that.
Speaker 4: But to say that, you put yourself beneath this thing,
Speaker 4: and that's that's not where I stand, you know. But
Speaker 4: and and again, I'm I get worked up talking about this.
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at this person. I'm sorry if if
Speaker 4: that's the way I said. I'm not mad at this person.
Speaker 4: We just have very very different, you know, opinions, and
Speaker 4: mine is based off the kind of person I am
Speaker 4: in my heart. You know, I'm I back down from
Speaker 4: no one or nothing. And you know Dallas didn't either,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I mean that's you know,
Speaker 4: he did what he needed to do to keep me
Speaker 4: living and breathing. And it was all this thing's fault,
Speaker 4: whether Tyler shot or not. It had no business coming
Speaker 4: around trying to be spooky to me. I'm you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid of you.
Speaker 2: I was. I was scared in that moment because it
Speaker 2: was like you know, shock factor, Like holy crap, what
Speaker 2: is that? But yeah, I'm not the afraid type.
Speaker 4: You know, when when when I when I was born,
Speaker 4: they didn't install a flight response in me. If somebody
Speaker 4: ever pulled a gun on me point when he tried
Speaker 4: to rob me, I'd get myself shot or possibly take
Speaker 4: their gun from I mean, there's there's only two possibility
Speaker 4: because I'm not going to run, you know, and from
Speaker 4: this thing, it's it's not any different. I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: run if I can stand and fight, I don't stand
Speaker 4: and fight, you know. And we did, and we see
Speaker 4: who ran off with it. And another thing, I didn't
Speaker 4: see this thing having a tail. It turned directly with
Speaker 4: his back to me when it ran for me the
Speaker 4: way it did, and I didn't see a tail. So
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you can run with your tail
Speaker 4: tuck on if that's literal, metaphorical whatever, But he ran
Speaker 4: with his tail tuck when it was all said and done.
Speaker 2: So, no, he better not come back into my domain.
Speaker 2: I better not ever see him again.
Speaker 4: And if so, he better kill me, because you know,
Speaker 4: as long as I'm alive and breathing, he's not safe
Speaker 4: to be within my presence. He seet whatever it was,
Speaker 4: you know, but this person did, apart from our differing
Speaker 4: opinions on you know, how the situation was, they did
Speaker 4: tell me, hey, I'm sorry, you for your loss and
Speaker 4: for that for that, thank you. I just you know,
Speaker 4: our opinions are very very different, apparently different people.
Speaker 3: I saw that question and it took me aback. I
Speaker 3: read it a couple of times, and yeah, they are
Speaker 3: entitled to their opinion, just like you're entitled to yours.
Speaker 3: But there was another question that got my attention even more.
Speaker 3: In that question or statement, I guess you could kind
Speaker 3: of say it was it was more of a statement
Speaker 3: than a question. They posed the idea that the dog
Speaker 3: man had vengeance on its mind because you and Tyler
Speaker 3: were shooting its buddies, the eleven coyotes. And as you'll remember, Kim,
Speaker 3: in our conversation I think it was Tuesday night or something.
Speaker 3: We spoke this past Tuesday, if you remember in our conversation,
Speaker 3: I told you that. Yeah, I mean a lot of
Speaker 3: eyewitnesses have reported seeing these guys running with packs of
Speaker 3: coyotes and they seem to be buddy buddy and all that.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that's where this commenter got their opinion
Speaker 3: from on that, But every bit as common as that
Speaker 3: is would be other eyewitnesses reporting witnessing that. And the
Speaker 3: next thing, you know, everything goes from being buddy buddy,
Speaker 3: they're just running along with the pact. All of a
Speaker 3: sudden they just reach out and grab a coyote that's
Speaker 3: within grabbing distance and rip it apart for no reason,
Speaker 3: for no apparent reason. So yeah, I can understand why
Speaker 3: that person might think, from listening to various shows that
Speaker 3: these guys are just buddy buddy with coyotes and they're
Speaker 3: their pets. But there's a dark side to that as well.
Speaker 3: They're not above want and slaughter when it comes to
Speaker 3: coyotes themselves. So from you guys shooting those coyotes, I
Speaker 3: can understand why someone who doesn't know that they've got
Speaker 3: that dark side when it comes to coyotes as well.
Speaker 3: I can understand that person thinking, Okay, well you killed
Speaker 3: their pets, that's why it was so upset. But like
Speaker 3: I said, they're not above doing the same thing themselves
Speaker 3: for no reason. So if whoever it was I left
Speaker 3: that comment's listening tonight, please keep that in mind.
Speaker 4: And if that were, you know, if that were, if
Speaker 4: that were you know, viable, if that was something true
Speaker 4: that could be proved, that would make all the sense
Speaker 4: of the world. Yeah, and I could see where that
Speaker 4: idea might come from you know, no doubt I have
Speaker 4: heard stories where these things were leading packs of coyotes.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's you know, but as you said, you know,
Speaker 4: it's not I don't think they really I don't think
Speaker 4: they really care too much, you know, something like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, and when and I, uh, sinister senist.
Speaker 4: Evil is that's that's what I get from this thing,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, because I mean it's I just
Speaker 4: don't what's the point in showing up and being scary
Speaker 4: and trying to trying to terrify a creature that's small
Speaker 4: talking about humans that are smaller and meeker and or
Speaker 4: so you think, you know, smaller and physically less than
Speaker 4: you you know, what what do you.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't get it. Evil is what
Speaker 2: I get. That's what I call that.
Speaker 4: That's like the equivalent of, like I said, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna say supernatural, because man, this thing ate a lot
Speaker 4: of lead, you know, and it bled it's not supernatural.
Speaker 2: It's a living, breathing thing that has to eat and
Speaker 2: drink to stay alive. But uh yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 2: that's like a.
Speaker 4: A bully essentially, and uh, you know he took something
Speaker 4: from me, but he also got what was coming to him.
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, I don't think there's much room in
Speaker 4: him for compassion for a pack of a pack of.
Speaker 2: Code, because Man, this thing. I know for a fact
Speaker 2: some of these CODs.
Speaker 4: Came from a different direction from where he came from,
Speaker 4: Like they weren't running together when that happened, you know.
Speaker 4: And maybe maybe some of them were, I don't know,
Speaker 4: but I know some of them came in from the
Speaker 4: right side of our pasture, like they had crossed the
Speaker 4: big the big gravel company that are our property butts
Speaker 4: up to. And this guy came from, you know, he
Speaker 4: came from over by where my favorite deer stand is,
Speaker 4: which is the complete opposite direction.
Speaker 2: So it's not like he was running with these things.
Speaker 2: And let's not to say they'd never crossed paths or anything.
Speaker 2: But I'm with you on that one. I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't think that held too much water.
Speaker 3: I don't either, I really don't, Kim. Let's get to
Speaker 3: the questions now from the listeners in the live chat.
Speaker 3: The first one in Q is from Andre's Currizales and
Speaker 3: Andres's question is the woods where you were? Are there
Speaker 3: any stories or myths like it being haunted.
Speaker 2: Oh so all right, And I told Vic this too,
Speaker 2: and it's just a little, you know, a little bitty thing.
Speaker 2: But I also connected it with.
Speaker 4: Maybe why, maybe the reason why my grandpa believed me
Speaker 4: when I and it's other than seeing Dallas in the
Speaker 4: bed of my truck and hearing me, because I mean,
Speaker 4: I was barely holding it together when I was talking
Speaker 4: to him. I'd about cried myself out and I was
Speaker 4: kind of in that numb stage. And I'm sure he
Speaker 4: could tell that something was up. But my grandfather told
Speaker 4: me and the house that I went to warn him,
Speaker 4: in the house he still lives in, when it was
Speaker 4: when it was built, I wasn't even a twinkle on
Speaker 4: my daddy died yet, I wasn't even a thought. And
Speaker 4: he's told me on more than one occasion. He said, man,
Speaker 4: uh and he called it a booger what he called it,
Speaker 4: And uh, I've heard it called a woolli booger by
Speaker 4: one of my friends.
Speaker 2: But it was, you know, talking about two totally different things. Uh,
Speaker 2: Grandpa said, only thing I've ever experienced with with the
Speaker 2: booger or anything like that. He said, I was building
Speaker 2: his house and uh, they were living a couple miles
Speaker 2: up back to the highway, a couple miles back towards town.
Speaker 4: And he said that he had all the framing done
Speaker 4: and he had like a work light or two hanging
Speaker 4: in there, and it was dark.
Speaker 2: You know, he'd work.
Speaker 4: I'd do work ten o'clock at night and get something done.
Speaker 4: And uh, he had had those worklights on and he
Speaker 4: cut them off, gott in his truck. And at the time,
Speaker 4: they already had the rest.
Speaker 2: Of the property prep. They didn't have the house built.
Speaker 4: They had two hundred and seventy something odd head a
Speaker 4: longhorn cows at the time.
Speaker 2: And that was before they brought the Angus bulls and
Speaker 2: started crossbreeding.
Speaker 4: But he drove up to the part of the driveway
Speaker 4: because the yard yard was electric fenced off with cows.
Speaker 4: Couldn't get in because the dogs would face.
Speaker 2: And they had blue heelers and stuff.
Speaker 4: And he gets out of his truck and unhooks the
Speaker 4: electric fence so he can drive through. And he said
Speaker 4: he turned around to walk back to the truck and
Speaker 4: he saw the light was back on, and he was like, I.
Speaker 2: Turned that light off.
Speaker 4: So anyway, he gets some truck verses back to the house.
Speaker 4: It's out, it cuts the light back off and goes
Speaker 4: back through it. And when he gets eat, you know,
Speaker 4: he left the electric fence open. When he pulls through
Speaker 4: and gets out to close it, the light's back on again.
Speaker 4: And he went and turned it off again, he said,
Speaker 4: He said, Man, the second time I went turned off
Speaker 4: a little spooky, he said, I a little spook, you know, understandably.
Speaker 2: So because he's by himself. At that time, that house
Speaker 2: that I grew up in wasn't even a thought.
Speaker 4: So it was nothing but woods. And then the neighbors
Speaker 4: to the right, their house wasn't there. There was no
Speaker 4: neighbors until you got all the way across the highway.
Speaker 4: Their driveways a half mile long. It's right right at
Speaker 4: give or take. But uh, other than that, no, there
Speaker 4: hasn't been any to my knowledge because we I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't even know who owned the property before we
Speaker 4: lived there. So and my family and art and within
Speaker 4: the knowledge that we have, that's the only And you know,
Speaker 4: that was just a story my grandpa told me.
Speaker 2: But no, I guess not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say that as well. Yeah, when you told
Speaker 3: me about that story, I was thinking, Wow, what would
Speaker 3: I be thinking? If I was experiencing that, and I'm
Speaker 3: not really sure how I would respond to that. That's strange,
Speaker 3: it really is. The Next one in Q is from Robin,
Speaker 3: and Robin wants to know, have you thought about gearing
Speaker 3: up with heavy firepower and some help to go see
Speaker 3: if he might be dinning on your land?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I told I didn't use those exact words,
Speaker 2: but I did tell Vic that the first time I
Speaker 2: ever talked to him, and like I said, man, y'all,
Speaker 2: y'all show Vic love in any way you possibly can,
Speaker 2: because the guy has this way of letting you get stuff.
Speaker 4: Out without you know, questioning you during and just letting
Speaker 4: you spill what's on your mind and then having.
Speaker 2: Something sensible to say to you. Because I said something.
Speaker 4: Just like what you said to him, and I was like, man, yeah,
Speaker 4: I want to kill that thing. I want to find
Speaker 4: him and I wanted this and he was like yeah,
Speaker 4: and I understand, but uh, you know that may not
Speaker 4: be the best I did. And you know, he's right,
Speaker 4: He's absolutely right, And I haven't put thoughts away of
Speaker 4: going and because I mean, man, he you know killed
Speaker 4: my bubble man, you.
Speaker 2: Know that I mean. And on top of that, like
Speaker 2: I said, he took things from me that he probably
Speaker 2: didn't even know he took from me, Like my little
Speaker 2: girl can't even.
Speaker 4: Go hunting there anymore. I won't take her to the
Speaker 4: pond to go fishing. Man, the best, the best bass
Speaker 4: I've ever caught. I was five years old. My grandpa
Speaker 4: took me fishing and I caught it out of the
Speaker 4: pond on the front of the property. And man, my
Speaker 4: grandpa cried tears of joy when that happened. He was
Speaker 4: so so happy for me. He held me and and
Speaker 4: we were He cried, and I cannot take my safely,
Speaker 4: you know, or or with any kind of piece of
Speaker 4: mind take my daughter there any of them and have
Speaker 4: an experience like that now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I have one hundred and ten percent
Speaker 2: thought about And I asked.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say his name, but there was
Speaker 4: a guest on a show way way priored me, or
Speaker 4: on VIC show prior to me that I asked it.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, you think what that guy was
Speaker 2: saying was true? And if so, will you put me
Speaker 2: in contact with him?
Speaker 4: He was like, Cam, I don't want to put you
Speaker 4: in any kind of danger, you know, And it's yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I absolutely absolutely thought about going and looking.
Speaker 2: For this thing.
Speaker 4: And you know, I mean thenning, I just there's men,
Speaker 4: there's so so our place is somewhere along the Holly
Speaker 4: Springs National Force. Not trying to give away my address
Speaker 4: or anything like that, but the Holly Springs National Force
Speaker 4: is mass it is so big. And this this is
Speaker 4: a conversation Vick and I also had this thing could
Speaker 4: have been living anywhere in the Holly Spurt because we're
Speaker 4: not far from it at all, and there's plenty of game,
Speaker 4: there's plenty of you know, water hole, there's plenty of
Speaker 4: everything this thing needs to survive. So I seriously doubt
Speaker 4: it's denon on our one hundred because because like I said,
Speaker 4: growing up, I ran every inch of that property on
Speaker 4: foot more times than I could count in a lifetime,
Speaker 4: you know. And now there's there's bobcat dens because I
Speaker 4: have found them, smoke Bobcats out of them.
Speaker 2: But there's really nowhere. There's not an inch of that
Speaker 2: property that I haven't laid my eyes on. Now.
Speaker 4: I don't run around in the woods unless i'm hunting
Speaker 4: like I used to. You know, I don't run around
Speaker 4: like I used to unless i'm hunting. But uh, and
Speaker 4: you know that's during deer season and that's about the
Speaker 4: only time I do it. But uh, man, a den
Speaker 4: for that thing would have to be so big. You know,
Speaker 4: there's no way I could miss it because I have
Speaker 4: walked the whole property hunting before, just stalking, you know,
Speaker 4: get stagnant, sitting in the deer standing and get up
Speaker 4: and walk. If I'd ever come up on something like that,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know what I would have done,
Speaker 4: but uh, something would have been done about it at
Speaker 4: some point. But I would like, I say, like, I'd
Speaker 4: just like to run up on this thing when it
Speaker 4: didn't see me and I had shot.
Speaker 2: At him or something. You know, I'm not gonna say
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go looking for him because my kids need me.
Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, I don't want to leave.
Speaker 4: This world to leave my wife and children without me.
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I've definitely I ramble sometimes, but yes,
Speaker 4: no answer that question. I've absolutely thought about that.
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to sum it up, so it's definitely
Speaker 3: not rambling. The next one up is from Bang Bang,
Speaker 3: and it is I guess they want to know from
Speaker 3: me if Dallas alerted prior to the attack. No, he didn't.
Speaker 3: This was just out of the blue. He did roar,
Speaker 3: but other than that roar, there weren't any signs he
Speaker 3: was about to attack. And then they also want to
Speaker 3: know if dog men have a cloaking ability. Well, there
Speaker 3: have been some credible eyewitnesses, quite a few credible eyewitnesses
Speaker 3: who've reported that, so apparently it's a strong possibility that
Speaker 3: they do. It's not like they need to have any
Speaker 3: other abilities to make them more formidable, that's for sure,
Speaker 3: but it would appear that that's definitely possible that they
Speaker 3: can do that. All right, let's move on to the
Speaker 3: next one. The next question is from gen R and
Speaker 3: her question is, Kim, are you afraid he will seek
Speaker 3: revenge or even bring more dogmen next time? Will you
Speaker 3: get trail cam.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, Like I said, you know, I've gotten
Speaker 4: over there, and if I saw him again, I may
Speaker 4: get that shock set.
Speaker 2: That not a shock set, that shock factor type of fear.
Speaker 2: Mc man. He's you know, the idea of him doesn't
Speaker 2: scare me at all.
Speaker 4: It you know, kind of takes me off a little
Speaker 4: bit because the thing is, I have trail cameras I
Speaker 4: have there right now.
Speaker 2: I left. I left him out there since last hunting season,
Speaker 2: and uh, as.
Speaker 4: Of right now, there are one, two, three, four. I
Speaker 4: know for a fact there are four, and I hunt
Speaker 4: every one of those spots. Uh, there may be five.
Speaker 4: One that Tyler had one out there, and I do
Speaker 4: believe it was a like a blue camoh massiolk camera,
Speaker 4: and I think he picked it up at some point
Speaker 4: before that, because Tyler hasn't been out there since then,
Speaker 4: that's not step foot on that place since.
Speaker 2: But uh, I think he got his.
Speaker 4: So there there are four out there, and there are
Speaker 4: the the first place that and I assume that this
Speaker 4: this thing was what was down at the end of
Speaker 4: the past year that Dallas barked at when I initially
Speaker 4: walked out before anything actually transpired, when I.
Speaker 2: Walked out to grab those two coyotes that we had
Speaker 2: left land.
Speaker 4: Uh, there is a camera right down there, like probably
Speaker 4: within fifteen feet of where we saw whatever it was,
Speaker 4: and I assume that's what it was, and if so,
Speaker 4: it didn't want us to know it was there yet,
Speaker 4: and it very very quietly left from where it was
Speaker 4: because it was so big. It's hard to be quiet
Speaker 4: when you're that size unless you're trying, and it left
Speaker 4: from where it was and went, you know, I guess
Speaker 4: back around the hill that ended it ended into that
Speaker 4: it ended up topping and coming down towards us on
Speaker 4: But from honestly, from where it was, it may not
Speaker 4: have crossed into the camera's field of vision because I
Speaker 4: don't have any pictures of this thing. And I might
Speaker 4: have said that to Vic when I very very first
Speaker 4: talked to him. I've got trail cameras.
Speaker 2: I have them.
Speaker 4: You know, this is there's prime deer hunting on this place,
Speaker 4: and I've never seen a decline in the deer population,
Speaker 4: and I've never had a picture of this thing on
Speaker 4: a trail camera. Now I will say, uh, the winter
Speaker 4: before last un season or last if you will, Uh,
Speaker 4: we did have some problems with and I feel like
Speaker 4: it was one of the employees ah at this gravel
Speaker 4: pit that I mentioned our property butts up to on
Speaker 4: one side. Uh, because we had had problems way years
Speaker 4: ago with those folks shooting our cattle, and my grandpa
Speaker 4: put a stop to that with a quickness. It happened
Speaker 4: twice and after the second time the first time he
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I'm not sure exactly what happened in there,
Speaker 4: and okay, but the second time it happened, he went
Speaker 4: over there and he was like, hey, the next cow
Speaker 4: that turns up dead, somebody over here is going missing.
Speaker 2: And we had no problems with it after that.
Speaker 4: But uh, right over there where these where these cow's
Speaker 4: been shot, we uh, we I had had problems. My
Speaker 4: grandpa has one friends allowed to hunt on this property.
Speaker 4: He's got hunting rights out there because they're like brothers.
Speaker 4: And uh he had a really really nice lock on
Speaker 4: deer stand with a swivel chair, and it's got it's
Speaker 4: got bur lap, right, you can't not burlap. But uh
Speaker 4: with that, Cai says, Camo, it's not Gilly. It's not
Speaker 4: like Gilly suit whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And this thing had been snatched like around a tree,
Speaker 4: like somebody had tried to take it but they couldn't
Speaker 4: get up there to uh, to undo the top of
Speaker 4: it or something. And then I had that trail camera
Speaker 4: that I was talking about that was close to where
Speaker 4: this thing was initially, if that's what it was. When
Speaker 4: when Dallas Boston started barking first time, that trail camera
Speaker 4: had been turned around and it got pictures and my Grandpa's.
Speaker 2: Well, how do you know it was because it took
Speaker 2: a picture of the hill behind it.
Speaker 4: So at one point the camera was somebody had turned
Speaker 4: it around without walking into its field vision, because there
Speaker 4: was no picture of a person or of anything else
Speaker 4: that you see a picture, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 4: mean a butterfly flying in front of it. We'll set
Speaker 4: it off if it's close enough. But there was a
Speaker 4: picture of you know, just the woods that it was
Speaker 4: looking at where it was meant deer coming out.
Speaker 2: And then the next picture is the hill behind it.
Speaker 4: You could you can see little vines and stuff, and
Speaker 4: you can see the the leaf cover on the ground.
Speaker 4: And then the next picture it takes it's turned back
Speaker 4: around correctly. And the odds that a deer did that,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's crazy. So I don't know
Speaker 4: if that thing did that, I don't know, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know, or at the time, you know, I
Speaker 4: said we had problems with people sneaking onto the property.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's what that was. But I do
Speaker 2: have cameras, I don't have any pictures, and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know I have I have other
Speaker 4: than mine and tower's eye witness account. I don't have
Speaker 4: any evidence that this thing was.
Speaker 2: There, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can. You can wonder about things like
Speaker 3: that until you're blue in the phase. I mean around
Speaker 3: a farm like that, strange things are going to happen.
Speaker 3: Around a normal property, strange things are going to happen.
Speaker 3: So now you're hyper sensitive. You've had that traumatic dog
Speaker 3: meaning encounter, and anytime something strange happens, that's going to
Speaker 3: be your go to. But yeah, try not to let
Speaker 3: that cripple or anything like that, because that's not going
Speaker 3: to do anyone good. But I've got another question for
Speaker 3: you from Bang Bang, and their question is if the
Speaker 3: government that should be has the government on any level
Speaker 3: been lurking around your land?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean unless they're doing it unbeknown for me.
Speaker 4: But my grandfather is the type of person if you
Speaker 4: drive down the driveway and turn around before you get
Speaker 4: to the house and leave, he will know that somebody
Speaker 4: drove down the driveway.
Speaker 2: He'd be like, hell, the rocks are disturbed. Look over there,
Speaker 2: you see that. Son.
Speaker 4: If somebody and drove down my driveway and turn around,
Speaker 4: I mean, no, Joe, He's you can't do nothing at
Speaker 4: seventy five years, he's starting to get dementia too, but
Speaker 4: nothing gets past him whatsoever. So I, I mean, unless
Speaker 4: they've been coming in at nighttime and snooping around, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because, Uh, I heard the first
Speaker 4: account I ever heard on Big Show's guy named Brandon
Speaker 4: says that the group that came in after he had
Speaker 4: his encounter took all of his SD cards out of
Speaker 4: his uh, out of his trail cameras, and my mine
Speaker 4: are still there? Or well, let me say that I
Speaker 4: haven't checked, they're probably still and if they're not, then
Speaker 4: you know, I'll come back.
Speaker 2: We do another one of these, and I can answer
Speaker 2: that question accordingly.
Speaker 4: But uh, no, I really don't think so, because I mean,
Speaker 4: I you know, nobody knew about this, and I mean me, Tyler,
Speaker 4: my grandfather didn't know about this, or nobody else other
Speaker 4: than us knew about this until I talked to Vig.
Speaker 2: You know. Part of why it's been so helpful to
Speaker 2: me is because it was inside for uh.
Speaker 4: Seven seven months, eight months, however long it's been now,
Speaker 4: and uh in that time, No, I don't, I don't
Speaker 4: think so.
Speaker 2: And you know, if they hear this, if something because
Speaker 2: I mean, they listen to everything.
Speaker 4: You could talk about something out loud while you're holding
Speaker 4: your phone and the next day you've never typed it
Speaker 4: into your phone, you've never searched for it, then that
Speaker 4: you have an ad for it on Facebook.
Speaker 2: They hear everything. So if they're listening to this, you
Speaker 2: better not come snoop around on my land. And if so,
Speaker 2: you better announce yourself.
Speaker 4: Because to be honest with you, my grandpa will shoots you,
Speaker 4: like if he sees you walking, he don't know who
Speaker 4: you are, He's gonna I AM at you.
Speaker 2: He's gonna give you one chance. Hey, turn around, put
Speaker 2: hands in the air, walk towards me, and if you don't,
Speaker 2: you don't catch lid. But uh no, I don't think so,
Speaker 2: I really, I really, I don't have any reason to
Speaker 2: think so, if I can say it that way.
Speaker 3: They do have a lot of resources, but there is
Speaker 3: a limit even to their resources. So unless it's really
Speaker 3: pressing you, they're not going to come out there and
Speaker 3: pay you any mind. So it wouldn't surprise me in
Speaker 3: the least that they haven't done that at all. The
Speaker 3: next one up is from Andre's Kirazales and Andres wants
Speaker 3: to know. Did you or your neighbors notice any difference
Speaker 3: in the way animals behaved, pets farming, animals gone missing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, no, that was so My grandma, like
Speaker 4: I said, she'd been losing more kickens than normal, and
Speaker 4: they've been really stirred up, not laying now.
Speaker 2: Other than that, they only have dogs, and I don't
Speaker 2: my grandfather didn't say anything about dogs acting weird.
Speaker 4: But the people across the road, the elderly couple, they
Speaker 4: had two dogs named Joe, Bob and Buddy, who I
Speaker 4: had known for years.
Speaker 2: They were old.
Speaker 4: I believe both those dogs are like sixteen. They lived
Speaker 4: long lives, but they both went missing in the same day.
Speaker 4: Like they both disappeared at the same exact time. Now,
Speaker 4: could one of them have you know, could they have
Speaker 4: gone out on a walk, one of them killed over
Speaker 4: dead and the other one just laid down and died.
Speaker 4: Dogs will die from I'm doing their quotes right now,
Speaker 4: broken heart. If their companion dies, they will lay down
Speaker 4: and starve themselves to death. They will do that, and
Speaker 4: that is a possibility that that could happen. But that
Speaker 4: being said, the neighbor that lives to the right will
Speaker 4: call him, Jason. I grew up with this guy. I
Speaker 4: rode the bus with him. I used to have a
Speaker 4: little dog named Cow. Cow was suonous like Arnold Swartz
Speaker 4: the dog. He was little, but he was really muscular
Speaker 4: and couldn't.
Speaker 2: Tell him anything, couldn't take him anywhere. He and I act.
Speaker 2: But he struck out one day and man, I didn't
Speaker 2: see him for two weeks, and I was like, where
Speaker 2: is my buddy? Man? Where did he go? And it
Speaker 2: turns out and I was calling and he heard me
Speaker 2: the whole time I was calling him, searching for him.
Speaker 2: I was upset. I was like, I was a dad man.
Speaker 2: You know, CAW's gone.
Speaker 4: Man, something got him or he you know, he he
Speaker 4: ran off and found somebody else to live with, which
Speaker 4: was crazy.
Speaker 2: He loved us to know.
Speaker 4: He was next door at Jason's house having a litter
Speaker 4: of puppies with his female. Well, Jason had these two
Speaker 4: puppies and they were identical. Like I said, I don't
Speaker 4: know if dogs produce whatever jeans it is that make twins,
Speaker 4: but these puppies were identical to the last hair on
Speaker 4: their body. They were the same color, they had the
Speaker 4: same temperament, everything, and they were like five.
Speaker 2: Or six years old. I think they were six when
Speaker 2: this happened, and they both went missing him one night.
Speaker 4: But that's why we thought it was coyotes. Coyotes do that,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, and between the chickens, I mean, hell,
Speaker 4: the chickens. It could have than fox bobcat. I mean,
Speaker 4: we got all that around our house. There's big bobcats
Speaker 4: on our place. Lots of foxes, you know, unusual number
Speaker 4: of foxes, if I may say, But uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there was.
Speaker 4: There wasn't a bunch of strange behavior in the in
Speaker 4: the animals, and we don't have horses and cows and
Speaker 4: such like we used to do, so there might have
Speaker 4: been if we had that. But as far as I know,
Speaker 4: my grandparents' dogs hadn't been agnormal. But there had been
Speaker 4: animals going missing at a much higher rate and over
Speaker 4: a much larger span of land than was normal.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, unfortunately, it'd probably been around for a while then,
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised. I can't believe the time has flung
Speaker 3: by so quickly. We're about at the seventy minute mark,
Speaker 3: so we're gonna need to get ready to wrap this up.
Speaker 3: But before we do, do you have any clothing comments
Speaker 3: you'd like to share.
Speaker 4: Uh, I love y'all to death, man, the you know,
Speaker 4: not trying to sound corny, but the support, the number
Speaker 4: of y'all, the number of y'all that have said, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know Dallas, but I love him, and you know,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry for you that man. That's been you know,
Speaker 4: apart from apart from my kids hugging me and tell
Speaker 4: me Daddy is okay.
Speaker 2: You know, Uh, man, that's been some of the best medicine,
Speaker 2: you know, because that's that's all, you know. That was
Speaker 2: my That was my goal in telling this, you know,
Speaker 2: it was just it was nice to get it off
Speaker 2: my chest. But my goal was not to get it
Speaker 2: off of my chest.
Speaker 4: It was to let people know that my bob other
Speaker 4: Man is a hero and I'm here because he saved
Speaker 4: my butt. My children are able to run to me
Speaker 4: for me to pick them up when I get home
Speaker 4: from work.
Speaker 2: Because Dallas isn't here anymore. And I just wanted people
Speaker 2: to know that because he deserves it. He was a
Speaker 2: good boy when I went to get him from the
Speaker 2: guy that I got him from. He was known around
Speaker 2: the neighborhood and.
Speaker 4: He h he had There was a little rabbit that
Speaker 4: lived in the bushes outside this guy's house, and Dallas was.
Speaker 2: Friends with it.
Speaker 4: Monster dog, Monster dog, and Dallas was friends with this
Speaker 4: little rabbit. The guy told me, he said, there's a
Speaker 4: rabbit lists in the bushes that place. When and when
Speaker 4: I went to pick him up, you know, I had
Speaker 4: bought him from this guy, and uh, you know, I
Speaker 4: sent him the money, went to pick him up, and uh,
Speaker 4: the people across the street. Uh, these two older ladies
Speaker 4: come out and then I'm putting Dllas in my trud
Speaker 4: They're like, oh, no, where is Dallas going?
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I know, Ray didn't tell
Speaker 2: y'all he's going to live with me, and uh, man,
Speaker 2: they were so upset.
Speaker 4: Everybody loved him, and you know, everybody deserves or you know,
Speaker 4: he deserves for anybody who wants to hear it or
Speaker 4: cares to hear it, to know what he did for me,
Speaker 4: you know, And that was my goal and it's been.
Speaker 4: You know, Vick has done the best job in the
Speaker 4: world of helping me tell this story. And y'all have
Speaker 4: done such a wonderful job. Whoever's listening, whoever you know
Speaker 4: told me they were thinking about us.
Speaker 2: You know, I love y'all to debt. I don't even
Speaker 2: know you, but thank you.
Speaker 3: That's awfully well said. I told you not to be
Speaker 3: at a dead horse, but I told you. The listeners
Speaker 3: who listened to the show, they're just amazing. And also,
Speaker 3: like I touched on, they have no clue how much
Speaker 3: they help you and other eyewitnesses when it comes to
Speaker 3: dealing with your encolendar. So yeah, for that and other reasons,
Speaker 3: I just can't thank them enough. I really can't. But
Speaker 3: having said that, Kim, please remember I've told you several
Speaker 3: times you're never going to be alone in this. If
Speaker 3: you ever do need help in the future, if you
Speaker 3: start to regress, then yeah, by all means, like you
Speaker 3: did this week, just reach out to me and let
Speaker 3: me know, and yeah, we'll set up another conversation so
Speaker 3: I can find out what's wrong, what's ailing in. We'll
Speaker 3: get that addressed, all right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, And I appreciate you so much, been too
Speaker 2: good to me.
Speaker 3: Well you deserve it, That's what I'm here for. Glad
Speaker 3: to do it. But yeah, having said all of that,
Speaker 3: thanks again so much for your time for coming on
Speaker 3: and sharing this experience, and now draining. It's been on
Speaker 3: you to share it, especially twice here, but every time
Speaker 3: you do it, you're gonna grow from the experience, so
Speaker 3: it's been a good reason to do so. But having
Speaker 3: said that, thanks again so much for your time and
Speaker 3: have a great night.
Speaker 2: Likewise, big thank you, brother, You're.
Speaker 3: Welcome, We'll see you. And to everyone out there listening,
Speaker 3: thanks again so much for listening. Thanks again so much
Speaker 3: for the support that you offer these eyewitnesses. Like I said,
Speaker 3: if you've had a dog mean encounter and we'll like
Speaker 3: to be a guest on the show, or if you'd
Speaker 3: like to just speak with me about it in private
Speaker 3: because you need help, well either way, please just go
Speaker 3: to Dogmanancounters dot com and submit a report. If you
Speaker 3: can do that, then I'll contact you to schedule a
Speaker 3: conversation with you so we can take it from there.
Speaker 3: But having said all that, thanks again so much for
Speaker 3: listening everyone, and have a great weekends.