Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to another episode of Bravo
We're Black and another stunning episode of our favorite I mean,
I mean I at this point I want to know
because I have Jay here, who is obviously the one
that I talked to about Prestige Television. Another stunning episode,
beautiful episode of Industry, which I personally feel like has
graduated from the title that everyone gave it, which was
like baby Industry, and it's coming into its own like show.
It's kind of what I imagine, you know, like when a
good show in, such as Succession or like Madmen or
something like that, when a good show in and you're like, oh, man,
like I really wonder where these characters would end up.
It's giving us that and more like it's just so
good that it's turned into something else entirely, like what
are you thinking?
Speaker 2: Me and Kendrick.
Speaker 1: We did a mid season breakdown because we know that
you were getting some well needed rest. We needed the
mid season breakdown, and we put all our thoughts and
jokey jokes out there, but like, we got to get
down to business because we're coming to the end of
the season and shit just got so real that I
don't even know how to feel.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think we talked out the beginning of this season
on this show that they do such a good job
of raising mistakes each season, Like there's such a world
where industry could have just been like a fun like
workplace drama. Right, each season is new past of characters
or other supporting characters are like what the life is
like on the floor of your Point and last season
through your Points closure essentially like the office they were
all working in. Like the show went in a completely
different direction this season, right, you see Harper, you know,
it's fully come into.
Speaker 3: Her own you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as is literally like part of the executive team
of a fraudulent banking app. So it's just really cool
to see like just how far all these characters have come,
and just how the steaks feel so much different. I think,
I don't know if I I think I did text
you this, yeah, but I was like, oh, this feels
more like a movie this season you did, than it
does an actual TV show, because it's just it's the
stakes just feel so hot.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, like I said, like it's graduated
into like a different type of show. Before it was
just like Okay, these horny kids on the UK version
of Wall Street kind of just you.
Speaker 2: Know, doing whatever.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean the stakes are high, and yeah
you're invested into some characters in some storylines, but it's
nothing that's like heart pounding what's going to happen next?
As it is this scene. And I mean we've had
character deaths, we have had people go to jail, We've
we've even in this episode alone, we crossed a line
that I never thought that we would even see on
even this show.
Speaker 2: So it is wild.
Speaker 1: It's called Dear Henry, which references basically like these letters
that Whitney has been writing to Henry this entire like
portion of the show. Or we don't even know how
long he's been writing Henry these letters. Did it start
when he first hired him, did he have his eye
on him in a predatory way, or like what where
does this Whitney character even come from? I mean, it
just starts off so crazy because we're coming back from
sweet Peace sweepy supremacy here, you know, and Quibena realizing
that the thing is nothing and they they don't have
like solid solid proof to where it's like they can
show you know that this is all a scam going
down in Africa or whatever. But they saw with their
own eyes like how it runs, and you know, Harper,
I think this is absolutely Yeah, this is the first
time this season that we see and they make a
point of that.
Speaker 2: We see Harper and we see Yaz head to head with.
Speaker 1: Each other, and they kind of have a conversation and
Harper is like, I know, this is basically a shell.
Speaker 2: Of a company, like what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: And yeahs is like, I mean, but is it really
like we can who's who is the press really gonna believe?
Speaker 2: What did you think about the meaning of Harper and Yazz?
Speaker 1: Like our two ogs, I mean started in so many
different positions and ending in so many different positions, and
now they're across from each other kind of I don't
challenging each other. But also like in a way, Harper
is really like, I'm in my own fucked up way,
I'm kind of looking out for you by letting you
know that this shit is about to go down. Yeah,
it's like I'm looking out for you and telling you
that you're kind of out of your league.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: And what's been floating around on the internet is this
idea of codependent haters, like they really go at it,
and I feel like to an extent, they don't like
each other, but they're codependent, Like they they feel the
need to kind of continue to meet up, I guess,
is what I would say, and like have these different interactions.
I think there's still like a shared camaraderie that they
have from when they work together at your point, which
is obviously.
Speaker 3: You know, what this whole show has been based on.
Speaker 4: But I think in recent episodes, I don't know if
you feel this way, but I feel like the character
from Severance where he's like he dumb question mark, like
is yasma dumb?
Speaker 3: Like to what extent it?
Speaker 4: Like, you know, she introduces Henry to Whitney. She's getting
involved in this in this tender organization with ess actially
no due diligence at all.
Speaker 3: You know, it.
Speaker 4: Seems that like all these crazy things happened to her,
but it doesn't seem that there's ever been a moment
where she's paused and has asked herself like is this
a good idea?
Speaker 3: You know, Like should I marry.
Speaker 4: This man, this addict and then live in the countryside
while he like destroys himself. Should I go work with
this guy, you know, Whitney, who is very clearly a
shady character, who's literally watching my husband shower like like.
Speaker 1: The flowers in his hand exactly. And then Henry's like,
what's the problem.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, right, we did this in common.
Speaker 2: No Poma in high school, Like what are you talking about?
It's just like, I love how just like nonchalant he
was about it. It's insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think do you think she is?
She is just dumb? Like where did they go?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, I think actually I thought she had it like
down pat from the beginning half of this season, right,
I feel like episodes one through four, I'm like, oh shit,
you know what, yeahs got into this shit and she
married the wrong person and this guy is an attic,
but she figured out how to kind of puppet master him.
But while puppet mastering him, she forgot to even check
to see if the company that they're actually betting everything
on his comeback on. He's doing big speeches about it.
He's putting his you know, his life on the line
of essentially and putting herself back into the mainstream media
to back this company. And I'm like, okay, well, this
is before we find out that it's a it's just
all falling apart. And then on this back half, I'm
just like, oh, okay, they're pretty much like.
Speaker 2: In opposite positions.
Speaker 1: I feel like Harper started off this season everything's gone
to shit, and yeah, everything is coming up roses because
not only did she get this guy another project to
work on, and he seems like he's, you know, not
an addict anymore.
Speaker 2: Which is crazy.
Speaker 1: This this episode, he was like, I think I have
it under control and he's like what. She's like, oh,
did Whitney offer you the champagne? He's like yeah, but
it was my idea. It's just so funny. But then
like it reverses right on this ending half of the season.
It seems that Harper might be the one that's about
to come out on top and Yazz is about to
go down under, and I'm like, at what time do
they just kiss again? Because they already had a threesome.
So it's like, you know, to me, it's like they
need to work together, Like when are these women going
to realize that they should work together?
Speaker 2: It would be better, but it wouldn't make for you know,
a show if they did that ruh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many interesting things that you bring up
with that where it's like do we think that like
Haley will get involved, do you think they'll kind of
come together and you know, like team up on Whitney
or you know. I feel like the season has had
so many twists and turns, like does.
Speaker 3: Whitney come out on top?
Speaker 4: Like is there a world where there's a there's another
kind of theme or lesson in this show that like, yeah,
you can truly fake it until you make it and
you see it every day, don't exactly? Yeah, well yeah,
I think that's I mean, the show has done such
an interesting job of like touching upon different different like
real life type of things that are going on.
Speaker 3: I did look this up.
Speaker 4: Apparently there was a British story.
Speaker 3: Actually I don't. I don't think it was a British
but it was.
Speaker 4: This This season's uh central theme around Tender is actually
based off of a real company I relieve happened in Germany,
where I think there was like a German it's actually
probably worth like finding this and like posting it or something,
but I think there was like a German fintech company
that essentially like duped the government to backing it because
Germany wants to get into this like fintech space. But
it was all completely fraudulent essentially, right, And it's just
kind of this interesting intertwining of government of you know,
like rampant capitalism and all the characters that circle around it.
Speaker 1: I mean that that has happened right here obviously in
our backyard, not my backyard, especially like in Florida, this
whole big there's a bitcoin scan that happened and they
even named our local like concert venue actor and the
dude ended up going to jail.
Speaker 2: So it's it's so wild.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So the beginning of the show Whitney Henry,
they go out to dinner and there's another guy there
and I'm just not sure who this guy is or
what he does, Like they introduced like these.
Speaker 2: Characters and then they talk in circles, so I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: But anyways, later on they go to party and wow,
what a time.
Speaker 2: They had a great time partying.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Yas is just like, where the hell are you. Harper,
as we knew in the last episode, is supposed to
go to this woman in business conference, and that's what
I love about Harper she's like women in business, Yeah,
fuck that, I got some business for you.
Speaker 4: Here's my take on what's going on.
Speaker 1: She literally put the sickest power point together and she's like,
tender fuck that. So she took her time and she's like, tender, listen,
it's not what you guys think it is. And Eric
is there like with a smile on his face because
he knows that this is like, even though she's fucked
him over so many times, he knows that that's basically
essentially like his baby, and he's like, I'm so proud,
Like he's more proud of her than he is of
his own children, which is we've already talked about that
weird element. But then yeah, she comes into the presentation
and she sits and she looks and she's just like, oh, oh, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think it was real.
Speaker 1: It didn't materialize until we saw all these things that
harp were pretty much like kind of laid out. She
goes back, has a conversation with Henry, and Henry is like,
I don't know if it's better to I don't know
how to be a good husband to you, Like, is
it better to lie to you or is it better
to let you believe like these delusions of yours or
whatever it is, and I'm just like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: What a terrible like hearing what did you think about that?
Speaker 4: So I think this episode made me realize that Henry's
character and granted, you know, we've only seen him.
Speaker 3: For two seasons, he's a two season kind of arc.
Speaker 4: But I think his kind of big thing, besides just
being an addict, is that he has this really weird
nuance that he needs to be like worshiped in many ways,
like he kind of needs to be the hero of
everybody's story. And I think that drives him and a
lot of the decisions that he makes throughout the show.
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Speaker 4: I think there's also something really interesting that I read
online that if you look at his wardrobe over to
the last few seasons or last two seasons, he's always
in costume. And what I mean by that is not
just costume of like the medieval party that he threw,
but he's constantly shaping to whatever kind of thing he's
involved in. So like last season he was constantly wearing
gloomy company swag, this season it's you know, tender swag
and kind of more like pared down like humble ceo,
you know, kind of kind of vibes, And I think
it just shows that, you know, one, he's trying to
like almost put on a suit of armor or put
on like a superhero outfit so that he can appear
more than he really is, right and at the core
of it, he's someone that can be duped very easily, right, Like,
at the core, that's what it is. But I think
it also shows that he wants to be this like
greater figure to everyone around him. And I think that's
kind of where Yazz in that really really intense scene
where they're yelling at each other and then she's finally
just like, no, you're right, No, you're totally right, because
I think she then realizes it too, so it's like,
you really so I came to this realization, I think
at the same time as Yasmin as a character, which
is so cool when a TV show can do that
right where you're kind of realizing shit immediately without them
explicitly saying anything, right, But at the same time as yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Doesn't know who he is, and she's now realizing that
he will never know who he is, even if he
is quote unquote sober, and even if she is trying
to put him okay, like I got you this thing,
He's never going to be the man that she thinks
that he could be. And that's because of the way
that he grew up, not just with money, but also
just his mental health, the things that he's seen as
a boy, and also just how he acts now. And
it's crazy because we started the season him celebrating his
fortieth birthday. It's like, when does it end?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild, it's wild.
Speaker 4: He just needs to like go and chill somewhere for
how months? I think he just needs to, Like he
needs years. Yeah, he needs therapy. He needs not to
be He's to be like single for a while for
a while.
Speaker 1: Or just get a boyfriend, Like I feel he got
a boyfriend, his entire life would be better. But I
love also the Okay, well let's just get into the
rest of the episode. So John Day, he's supposed to
be cooperating and paying basically, you know, saying what he knows.
He's whistle blowing supposedly, but instead Whitney is like, okay,
I'm going to Africa.
Speaker 2: He goes to Africa. John Day. They said that he
was in London and he's like, what the fuck is
he doing in London.
Speaker 1: Whitney gets on that plane and it's like I know
you fucking line, like I'm back on my way.
Speaker 2: So sweet Pee.
Speaker 1: And who was it was it when that showed up
with Sweet Pee?
Speaker 2: They go and he's like waiting but.
Speaker 4: The paper, Yes, Whinny beats them, to them, to them.
Speaker 1: To the breakfast, and Whitney is just like, don't don't
get too much dippoinrship, Like.
Speaker 2: It's insane.
Speaker 1: Would you think of that part because it ends up
being so like important later on in the episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think really what this episode has shown
is it like Whitney really is that guy, Like he
is willing to go there and this is This is
also what I meant by like this season feels more
like a thriller like a movie than a TV show,
because you know, we're just seeing a new dimension that
this show is kind of operating in, like we saw
it last season. I think when Reschi's life gets shot, yeah,
that felt very like out of theme for Industry as
a series. But now I think we're kind of like
fully in that world now, right where it's like, hey, man,
like you know, you see this character Whitney that's like, oh,
I can protect you, like, don't be a whistleblower and
if you do this, it's not going to work out
well for you. Yeah, right, like kind of that that wink.
And then you know from the conversation that he has
with and I'm not sure like what that Russian guy's
like title is, is he chief product officer or head
of technology? But he reveals in this episode that you know,
like like there's definitely something going on with him. I
think is like the gist of of what I'm trying
to get at, like like there's definitely more sinister things
that are happening behind the scenes, and you.
Speaker 1: Know she's about to go down because they mentioned I
don't know if you caught that. Jesse Bloom Cio was
at the presentation, and anytime Jesse Bloom is mentioned, it's like,
oh that mother, Yeah you no good but yeah, so
Sweetpee and Quibina go and they talk to him and
they think everything is fine.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: After the whole presentation thing, they get the media talking
and there's an opportunity for them to speak on CNN,
which I thought that well, before this happens, we get
video of Eric and an underage girl and he's like,
make me feel big and she's like, yes, daddy, But
it was daddy and.
Speaker 2: A whole another.
Speaker 1: Crazy, like disgusting way, which is like, oh my god.
But I thought that he was going to go on
CNN and like not say anything. But Eric went and
he kind of like stood on all ten toes. Eric
and Whitney are on CNN and it was wild. And
then Whitney and Harper even have a conversation and Whitney
sings Whitney's Houston's and I'm like, oh, this dude is
like he's a killer, Like if there was I think
at the beginning of the show, you're like, I wonder
if he's bullshit or is this dude to killer.
Speaker 2: I think they answered your question in this episode.
Speaker 4: Is that a killer?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Literallyistance and physically, physic, physically, and like emotionally, in
every sense of the word.
Speaker 2: There's a because he's cool as a cucumber.
Speaker 1: He hears about you know, John Day, and he stops
him right then and there. He talks with the board
about what's going on, and he's like, don't worry about it.
This kind of shit happens all the time. He's like, hey, whatever,
Like he's on the phone with Harper and Harper is
just like, you know, they're talking, and he's like, I
wonder if that's why I showed you the most intimate,
you know, side of myself.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, yo, he's not worried about a
damn thing. He truly is a killer.
Speaker 1: And then he just breaks out into song, singing Whitney Houston,
and I'm like, I hate him, but I also love
him as a character because he is right down.
Speaker 4: To I do you think everything you just share, like,
how do you think that interacts with how Henry views him?
Still as very like middle class in any ways.
Speaker 1: Henry is one hundred percent underreacting. I think that he
he thinks that, Okay, I already went through this song
dance with the Field Company, but at the end of
the day, I'm back and I'm essentially royalty, so it
kind of like doesn't matter what I do. Yazz has
nowhere to go. I'm just gonna go to this gloryhole.
I'm gonna have fun, and that's pretty much it. And
he is underreacting to like, really what damage Whitney could
do to not only his reputation but also whatever they're
trying to do there. But yeah, we find out about
you know, Eric's whole situation with an underage girl, and
he knows that he has to just back away from
the situation. But they go on CNN they have banter
back and forth, and then we find out that Eric
is signing over the company to Harper and a Harper
is like, what is this for? And he won't tell
her and he's like, I just don't want you to
remember me this way, and she's like, this is how
I'll always remember you. And that ship was so I
don't know why, but that it didn't break my heart
because it's like, Eric, you are a creep, Like why
why are you?
Speaker 2: Why? A man will literally Yeah.
Speaker 4: Did you think Creed last season, like do you think
he always was this way?
Speaker 2: Like always been a Creed?
Speaker 4: Interesting because I thought that he was done after the
last season, Like I thought his ending was very it's
the most part positive, right, like he got paid out,
like in terms of his art, what he was with
his goals or what he was trying to do. And
then to see him back this season like bord golfing
behind the President Trump.
Speaker 1: I think that's the reason that I that I think
that he's a creep. I think that the reason that
he can't let it go. It goes hand in hand
with like the business side goes hand in hand with
essentially his sexual needs also, like I think that all
that is together.
Speaker 4: I said, And what do you think his is, Like
what are his needs essentially?
Speaker 3: Like what drives him?
Speaker 4: Because I still, like I know we've talked before in
previous episodes like is he a killer? Can he you know,
does he go the distance? But I think this season
has shown him more as a really broken character, like
more so than anything else, and that he's more broken
than he is like someone that's taking all these actions
and being just driven by the pursuit of money and
you know power, and you know, we've made a lot
of comparisons to him to like a Logan Roley type person,
but I think he's actually just like more broken and
shallow than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I agree with that, But I think
that what you told me is that you have an
opinion and I want you to elaborate on it, that
they kind of should have just like left him off
of this season if this is how it was going
to end. I felt like I disagreed because as much
as I hate this for him, it was just so
good to see how he and Harper kind of worked together.
Speaker 2: And let's just be real, Harper needed him.
Speaker 3: Mmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what are saying, Like, what did you think?
Speaker 4: Well, maybe I need to go back and watch last
season again.
Speaker 3: I just thought that it was a very fitting ending.
Speaker 4: Before we knew that he was never going to be
like the CEO of Peerpoint, right, we knew that he
was never going to make it to the top. But
I think he you know, when you look at like
the first two seasons of the show, like he gave
Harper a chance, and I think that that was like
the one redeeming thing that kind of carried his character
through the show.
Speaker 3: Is it like he's still.
Speaker 4: A guy that can notice talent and then blessed that
talent when Peerpoint you know, essentially collapses at the end
of last season, which I think is also a little
confusing because also Whitney and Tender want to purchase Peerpoint now,
so I guess maybe more more on that in a minute.
But seeing Eric leave her Point, it's the empty office
and everything's closed down in London and he's gotten paid out,
like it felt like that was a fitting ending to
this guy that kind of shepherd it in the next
generation of talent for the company, and it was kind
of done like at a certain point, you do make
enough money and you're old and you can kind of chill.
But then immediately we're like hooked back in at the
start of this season. And what's interesting that I think
what they did was it almost felt like Mickey and Conrad,
the creators of the show, like you know, we're shooting
industry like this new season, and then like read online
like oh I Like people were saying like, oh I
hope like Richie comes back, oh I hope Eric comes back,
And then somehow like worked them in because they're still
because he's he's adjacent to the core of the store
this season.
Speaker 1: You think because he is like one of the core characters,
that they kind of made a spot for them rather
than them being necessary to the plot.
Speaker 4: Maybe, I don't know. He also said in an interview
the actor plays Eric that there's a lot there were
a lot of extra scenes that they did that did
not make it into the season.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I wonder if they filmed different like alternate you
know scene I watched him personally guys on the Live
Action Avatar where he's just as good. So if anyone
wants to go watch the Live action Avatar, it's now
streaming on Netflix.
Speaker 2: The new season should come out this year.
Speaker 1: Actually, what I also wanted to talk about just the
last two things here.
Speaker 2: I think it was Whitney who called.
Speaker 1: Jonah, right, and this is Jonah from earlier in the season.
Jonah also ended up talking to was that yeah, sweet pea,
and he was at the strip club and he's like,
usually you guys make me.
Speaker 2: Pay money to talk, and so he's just such a creep.
Speaker 1: Right, he calls Jonah and Jonah's like, you better get
a lawyer or kill yourself. What did you think of
that scene? Like, what does he mean? So that's a Whitney,
So that's over the phone, Like that had a fun
way to who who do you say that to Whitney?
Speaker 3: But who's he talking to?
Speaker 2: Jonah?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I was kind of puzzled by that, to
be honest, because, like the guy who plays Jonah's obviously
a big actor, Like I thought he'd be more involved
in this season, and he just hasn't been. Right, Like
the whole premise of the Pot or the first episode
of the pilot of this season was that you know,
it was a breakup essentially of two business partners and
the fallout of that, and so I don't know, I
mean I would I would kind of put it back
on you what you think of it, Like do you
think he's gonna come back in at the end as
like this smoking gun that gets Whitney and then like
regains control of Tender. It just seems that he Like
I don't know what to make of that character, because
I really wish he was more involved in this season.
I wish we saw him just being like a drunk
kind of like chaotic force that's just trying to screw
over everybody, But we don't really see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we kind of see him just like accept
that that's what happened. But then he gets a call
from Sweetpea and he's like, oh, what's going on? I
don't know. I don't know what to think of it
because I still don't really understand the dear Henry part
of it, even though that was the episode and we
heard him create it.
Speaker 3: What was what?
Speaker 2: Please tell me? What did you make of these? Yes
so inserts these letters? Why did he do it? What
are they about?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 4: That iem was actually one of my favorite parts of
this episode and the overall kind of like premise of
Whitney's character. So I think the idea here is that,
you know, we know Whitney is obviously a very dangerous person.
He wants tender to be successful. Heart of that strategy
is getting into bed with the government, so it's like
we're almost too big to fail, and so Henry is
inherently part of that strategy. When he met Yaz, when
they got together, Whitney wanted to be introduced to Henry
and to make him the CEO of his company because
it inherently puts like the royal stamp on what he's doing.
And so I think where Whitney comes with those letters
is one it's almost like falsifying and incriminating evidence, right
of like, hey, we've been in this together from the beginning, right,
Like we're in this, right, You're you're in as deep
as I am, Henry, Right Like if these are handwritten letters,
I'm saying that we've done all this stuff together.
Speaker 3: You know, there's maybe no way to prove it.
Speaker 4: But it's still really damning, and Henry is like weak
enough essentially to continue to fall into the trap. Right
you see him going on Whitney's side when when he's like, no,
we need to do an audit that's like more drawn
out right, we don't want any like we want this
to take time, blah blah blah, Like he's trying to
delay and obtuskate.
Speaker 3: Muddy the waters of.
Speaker 4: You know, an audit that would find Tender to be
a completely fraudulent company, which at the very start of
this episode when they're at dinner with the auditor, that's
what they're talking about. And so I think Dear Henry
is really this kind of like the idea of it
is like it's like a love letter from Whitney to
Henry of being like, Hey, we're in this thing together
whether you like it or not, Buddy, I got you right.
And you're starting to see the fear building between Henry
and Yazz, and that also kind of wilf spur Yaz
do she kind to try to protect him because she
has no other choice.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, she's she's what did the guys say?
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, you you hired a terrible directo communications
because they couldn't find Henry or Yaz at the time exactly.
So it was just like that another banger of an
episode of Industry. I can't wait to see, like where
this goes.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it looks like.
Speaker 1: What what Stern Yeah, what Stern Town looks like?
Speaker 2: Without Eric? Harper is kind of like not necessarily quote
unquote on her own, but.
Speaker 1: She she no longer has Eric, and how is this
going to work out? She has a capital, she has
like a not the smoking gun necessarily, but Eric kind
of gave her the alley oop before he left, like
that seeing in an interview, you know, the woman in
conference thing that happened. I mean they also have like
is Jonah gonna go on their side or is he
gonna go on Whitney side, Like it's gonna be very
oft to see where it lands. And I can't wait
for the rest of the season. I mean, this was
what it's so good fix right?
Speaker 2: Six two left, two more left.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a short season like it. And again it's
like I I'm always so impressed with where the show
takes itself, how it continues to raise the stakes, right,
how it continued to feel so different from previous episodes,
previous seasons, and it's just amazing to say, Like, I
I don't know, you know, generally I think for Eric
it's he served more of the plot than bringing back Rishi.
But it's cool to see those early again. And I
actually do like, I do think it's different that like
usually when a character like comes back right, like gets
pulled out of the you know, when you thought they
were gonna be like gone or whatever, and they come back,
it's like they're coming back and they're in a huge
role for the new season and they see it all
the way through. Like I kind of like actually in
a certain way that it's like a tease, right, it's like,
oh you you like Rishi? Okay, Yeah, we're gonna bring
him in for these a couple of big moments, and
then we're going to leave him like physically broken on
the side of a road.
Speaker 3: And that's just that's just a jumping.
Speaker 1: Out of the window, like wow real, I mean, yeah,
I think that's that's that's honestly every Oh. What I
also did love was when when they were talking to
John Day and he kind of just became like this
champion of Africa. He's like, you guys, the Western realization
really underestimates, you know, what Africa can be. And I'm
just like, shut you know up, scammer, Bro, He's turned
into a Nigerian scammer and it's hilarious because he's a
white man.
Speaker 4: So fine, so funny.
Speaker 2: But is there anything else you want to add?
Speaker 3: No, I think that's it. I think it's just what.
Speaker 4: I'm ready to see this thing come in for a landing.
I think that next episode they're gonna be super explosive. Yeah,
I feel like we'll have to come in and recap
all that.
Speaker 2: Where we're at now though, don't you see the season
five coming?
Speaker 4: That's a great question. Part of me is like, yes,
I want it. Part of me like, okay, I'll put
it this way, if I could choose between a season
five or HBO giving the green light to Mickey and
Conrade to create another series, I think I would pick
another series just because it'd grown so much as TV
filmmakers in the last few years, like they've I feel
like they've blown past proving themselves with this series, and
I want to see them try to tackle something else.
Speaker 3: This was their first TV show, Okay.
Speaker 1: You know is a first is It's like, how do
you even like just let them do everything exactly?
Speaker 2: Does it that scratch the left from succession? Before? I
was like, we were such succession snobs.
Speaker 3: We're like nothing will ever ever.
Speaker 2: But now this season, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, hold on. And then they even they even said
something that Logan Roy said I think that I had texted.
Speaker 2: You about it. What did they say? Oh my god?
What did he say? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: He was like, oh this this is not a serious person.
And I'm like, oh, I remember when Logan said that,
tell his family like you are not serious people, And
I'm like, damn. That kind of intersected perfectly.
Speaker 4: But another series in the finance tech world with a
British flair, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Dave me fucking too, So all right, guys, we
will be back next week to talk more about the industry.
Jay is back. We got two episodes left. That means
you got two episodes left. Catch up and thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,