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Speaker 1: The Super Bowl felt like an eternity ago, but now

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Week one is back. This is bad on it. Let's

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get into the Week one NFL slate. Kelly Stewart here

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with Marco DiAngelo and Yanni the Greek guys. We've been

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anticipating this moment for a really long time. These lines

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have been out basically since May. I feel like we

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have talked about the NFL at nauseum here at wager

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talk dot com, whether it's divisional previews, super Bowl previews,

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regular season win totals. I'm ready for the season to

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get started, but I'm already sweating my survivor pick. We're

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gonna get into some of those here in just a

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little bit, but first we're gonna geto those primetime games.

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Thursday Night football. Dallas is an eight point under dog

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at Philadelphia forty seven and a half. Here is the

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total VR break down this NFC East rivalry.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, gun to my head. You're going to force

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me to take the points here with the Dallas Cowboy,

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especially now that it's up over a touchdown. This was

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at six and a half at one point, got the seven,

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seven and a half, now eight, You could even find

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eight and a half and who knows where it will

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end once the teasers start rolling in, and the books

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have to protect themselves against the teaser. So the possibility

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that gets up to that nine is a lot greater

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than it getting back to seven, because if the betting

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syndicates were going to get down on Dallas, they would

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have done it already able to get eight. Eight and

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a half's out there, So be cautious there. And if

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you like Dallas, I think you should wait. If you

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like the Eagles, you probably missed the boat because, like

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I said, it should just continue to climb as the

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teasers start rolling in. But look at the history of

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this series. Last year Eagles dominated. That's a rarity. If

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you look over the last ten games, I don't even

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have to look flip a coin. I bet they're close

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to fifty to fifty. You look over the last twenty

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games between these two, don't have to look flip a coin.

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Close to fifty to fifty. Whom away really doesn't matter.

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Like they each team is probably one five or the

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last ten straight up, the other team won five at

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the other five. One cover five, the other covered the

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other five. Like that, they just split. They play tough

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games regardless of the type of season. It's just that

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kind of rivalry. And I think Dallas is I don't

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expect Dallas to have a great season. I bet to

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know that they will not make the playoffs. But this

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is Week one. You've had time to prepare for one

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team and one team only, and you know the super

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Bowl champs are who you're playing. Not only a rival,

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but they're now they're defending super Bowl champs. I think

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all the concern about Dallas is now defensive line. I

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don't think that's going to be a problem. They were

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loaded before that. I think they're going to give the

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Eagles some pressure there because that's what the Eagles are

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gonna have to do. Protect Hurts, get that running game going.

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But let's not forget Barkley's coming off of two thousand

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yard season, you got to expect a regression. In fact,

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you got to expect the regression from the entire Eagles

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offense that had that kind of outlier season. Just look

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at the red zone efficiency. Finally talking about the red

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zone efficiency, if you look at the Eagles have one

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of the top five home field advantages in the NFL

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going into twenty twenty five season, With that said, for Dallas,

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it really doesn't matter. In fact, they did better on

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the road last season, and that was one of their problems,

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that red zone efficiency. They were thirty first in the NFL.

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You got to be able to put points up on

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the board when you get into the red zone. That

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has to do with a lot of luck, and luck

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tends to regress and progress towards the mean, like you

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can't continue to get lucky or unlucky forever. And I

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think Dallas had a lot of bad luck last year,

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especially if you look at turnover margin and all of that.

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But like I said, with them doing better offensively in

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the red zone, book more so defensively in the red zone,

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regardless of playing home or away, it's almost been the same,

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something better on the road at times. I got to

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take the points here again, rivalry game. I haven't gotten

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to the window yet. They may force me if it

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continues to climb, But I like the dog here, dogger

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pass for me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Viera, let's kind of talk about some of

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those teasers. I know you and I break them down

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on Last Call every single Sunday this year, it's gonna

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be hosted by Aaron Epstein, so I can have a

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day off. That being said, I'll still be watching because

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I want to know the most efficient markets, as we

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know in the NFL, will be Sunday morning. So you

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always say wait to bet the teasers. Yeah, I do

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a show on Monday. It's called Opening Line Report, and

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I don't want to see if you agree with Teddy Covers,

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he said he's not betting any Week one teasers and

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there's so many available. Tell me why you don't think

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anybody should or should not be betting teasers this week

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and including the Philadelphia Eagles in it.

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Speaker 2: No, I think you should. In fact, it's even better

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in Week one to use teasers in the NFL because

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the mean absolute error is closer, meaning the average NFL

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game okay, finishes ten point two points off the point

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spread on average. So even though we say that Vegas

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is is so sharp, they're so on point the fact

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that they're not trying to predict the outcome with a

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point spread. This is a perfect reflection of that because

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again on average, they are ten point two points off

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of the point spread compared to the final score. In

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Week one that drops to nine point nine okay, so

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even a little less when you're using the teaser, that's

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what you want. You want the game to fall near

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the point spread. That's where it helps you. But what

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you have to remember with the teaser is this. Okay,

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the even money teasers are no longer available. Okay, if

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you could find minus one twenty on a six point teaser,

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your break even is seventy four point one percent. That's

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what your break even is. Okay. If you're able to

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go through the key numbers of three and seven, you

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will win about seventy six percent of those bets, so

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your break even is seventy four. You'll win about seventy

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six so you'll have about a two percent edge over

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the books. At minus one twenty, most can still even

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get minus one twenty. Most are in betting one twenty

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five's even one thirties. You can't go above one thirty.

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because again you're making your edge even smaller, maybe a

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one percent edge, and you're gonna have a lot of

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volatility that way, which is why we've changed it up.

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With how I do it, I like to look at

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more closer to the closes the line because I want

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the market to be as efishing as possible. You don't

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want an inefficient market with teasers, because you're only going

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to catch your teaser if the game lands near the number.

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Keep that in mind. So again, going through three and six,

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if you're able to lay one twenty or better, you'll

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have about a two percent edge over the books laying

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one twenty five or worse. That edge lessons because again,

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you gotta win seventy four point one percent at getting

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six points on the teaser. That's your break even at

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minus one twenty at minus one twenty.

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Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate that look into some of the

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teasers and your opinion on Week one teasers. There's just

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so many. We'll get to some more of these games

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that fall with in that, but first we got to

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go to Sunday night football. We've seen this one balance

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all over the place. Buffalo minus one and a half

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Baltimore pick them fifteen and a half is pretty much

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where the total has started to subside. I know some

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under money came in early. And here's how I have

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to look at this one. All right, These two teams

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have played six times since twenty eighteen. I got three

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wins apiece Baltimore did have that nice home win last

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year during the regular season, but guess what the Bills

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got the one that mattered in the playoffs. That one

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was no fun for me and my Lamar Jackson and

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Baltimore ravens super Bowl future which would have cashed because

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it was parlayed with the Florida Gators. I don't want

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to talk about it. I know why the under money's

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come in six one and one in the last eight

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meetings between these two. Look, let's take out everything we

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saw in preseason. Let's take out everything we saw last year.

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Let's look at these two teams on Sunday night football.

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I don't think there's a lot of value here. The

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Bills don't lose games at home. Baltimore the rubber is

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meeting the road. I had the pleasure of recording the

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press yesterday and he said, Lamar Jackson is two in

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consistent and I said, wait what, we are not blaming

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Lamar for that playoff loss last year. I do think

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that betting against Josh Allen is not fun. I also

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think betting against Lamar is not fun. I do also

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think you've got to take the better defense here, and

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that is Baltimore, So give me the pick them, give

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me the plus one and a half, of course, because

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you should be shopping around on your odds logic screen.

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Marco DiAngelo, I'm kicking it to you. I know that

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wasn't a very definitive Ravens at a pick them because

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I'm not going to get there with my hard earned money.

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But something for our audience to look at, Will you

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beginning to the window on Monday Night football with your

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hard earned money? Vikings minus one and a half Chicago

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forty three and a half is the total?

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Speaker 3: Well, Kelly, you look at this one in We've seen

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the line move in this one as well. Chicago opened

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the favorite in this one minus one and a half,

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and we've seen it do a complete flip to the

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Vikings being one and a half point favorite, And to

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be honest with you, they should have been the favorite

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from the start. They are fundamentally the better team. While

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a public opinion and sees it differently, most people expect

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the Bears to be improved this year, especially with the

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hiring of the Detroit Lion offensive coordinator Ben Johnson as

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the head coach. We all know how bad the head

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coaching has been in Chicago the last few years, so

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definitely an upgrade there. Also, it's an automatic public opinion

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that a rookie quarterback is going to have a better

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year in his second year. That's just, you know, the

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way you think of progression. But don't be sold on that.

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A couple of reasons we've seen quarterbacks in the past.

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The one that comes to mind most recently is CJ.

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Stroud had a fantastic rookie season and then took a

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little bit of a step backwards in the year two.

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Washington this year. We saw Daniels have a great rookie season.

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Will he duplicate that this year year. Here's the thing

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when a quarterback of rookies in there, you don't know

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what their tendencies are. You don't know what their strengths

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and weaknesses are. Yet you've got gain film from college. Okay,

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you don't know properly how to gain plan them when

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you've had a full year of them in the NFL.

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matters worse. But it could be plus as well for Chicago.

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Depends which way you look at it. Caleb Williams is

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going to have to learn a new offense this year, Okay,

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remember how many offensive coordinators and head coaches he went

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through early on his career, and I think it really

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hurt him because he had no consistency early on. We've

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seen he's played much better since he's had stability at Tampa.

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Caleb Williams, this could be a breakout season for him

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under Ben Johnson, but there's gonna be a learning curve. Okay.

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and again, what do you learn in preseason going against

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vanilla defenses. He is going against one of the best

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defenses in the NFL. And the question mark with Minnesota

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this year is JJ McCarthy. What's he going to be

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at quarterback? We know what the Vikings did last year.

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Sam Donald had a career year, led them to the

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playoffs and it fell apart in the end there, but

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they had a fantastic season. If you remember, before Sam

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Donald took over, the only reason he took over was

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JJ McCarthy got hurt in preseason. This was supposed to

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be McCarthy's team. So that great success last year that

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Minnesota had, was it Donald or was it the system.

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think he's a great offensive mind, and I think Minnesota

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is going to be just fine. I think heading into

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week one, going on the road on a Monday night

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football's not ideal. The crowd will be crazy night home

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field slight home dog. But I've got the better team,

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better set to start the season. It's just gonna be

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plug and play with McCarthy and I'm gonna go with

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the better defense here and we're gonna take Minnesota. Should

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be a fun game on Monday night football. Don't expect

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to shootout, but I'm gonna take the Vikings on Monday

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night to open up the season.

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Speaker 1: All right, Bear's another possible teaser spot there, but we're

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gonna just digress and get right into the steam report.

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That train is running down the tracks and I need

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to know these lines have been out for months. But

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let's hear who's getting steamed here leading up to NFL

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm gonna focus in on the moves that

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got multiple groups on top of them, and where I

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haven't seen resistance. Start off Friday, Kansas City and the

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Chargers over forty four over forty five is the public

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that's also betting that game over that'll probably keep pushing

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that number. Go on to Sunday four fifty eight, Indianapolis

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Colts at a pick them for sixty, Jacksonville minus two

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and a half and three for sixty four, Cleveland plus

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the six and over forty five for six seven, Arizona

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for minus four and a half up to minus six,

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Detroit and green Bay under forty nine and a half,

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forty nine and under forty eight, Houston and the Rams

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under forty six four seventy nine, Baltimore plus two and

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the under fifty three and fifty two, and finally Minnesota

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from plus one to minus one. So those are some

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of the NFL moves, But keep your eye on odds

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lit heading into the weekend, you'll start to see a

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lot of movement. That's when they'll start taking advantage of

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a lot of the first quarter lines, first half lines

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player props, especially as the public gets to the window

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and starts forcing a lot of line moves, because again,

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even though the public doesn't get respect, they bet a

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lot of money when it comes to the NFL, and

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money moves lines. When the books have a ton of risk,

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they're going to try to entice action the other way.

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They got to write some tickets on the other side,

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and that's where you'll see a lot of bettings that

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gets getting involved on game day. So best of luck,

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whether you follow or a fade, hope you do some damage

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with the info.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into those barking dogs, my favorite

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segment of course of each show, because I want to

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know who's running out right. I'm addicted to that plus money.

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There's been a lot of overlap. I'll say, I do

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a script for us on Mondays, Marco's like, damn, and

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I wanted this game. And then I go to type

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it in in VRS already on it, and I try

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to give you guys a lot of a parody here, right,

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instead of overlapping. But this was a game that I

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wanted as well. Marco, you like the New York Giants,

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tell me why maybe the Commanders are not a good

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survivor pick this week.

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Speaker 3: All right, Kelly, Well, there's plenty of excitement in Washington.

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I alluded to that in the last segment. You've got

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a rookie quarterback that had a sensational season, they made

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the run to the playoffs, they won a playoff game,

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so obviously expectations are high in Washington. Well, you know what,

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when expectations are high, that also means the line's going

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to be inflated. And we look at this one. Washington

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comes in here as a six point favorite. Last year

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when they played in the first meeting in Washington, the

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Commanders were just a one point favorite. Now, Washington did

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win both me last year against the Giants, but they

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only won them by three and five points. Are you

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going to tell me, really that there's that much of

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a difference, uh this year from last year to this

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year and these two teams that there's justifies a five

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point move from what the line was last year. Washington, Yeah,

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on paper, they should be better, and you would expect

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Daniels to have a progression this year, but as we said,

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that's not always the case. And the Giants, a division rival,

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that knows this team well. And I've got to look

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at this giant roster from this year to last year.

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You know, last year they were coping with life without Barkley. Uh,

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this is year two. I think they're gonna be better.

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You know, the quarterback situation, whether you like it or not,

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Russell Wilson is going to be a little more have

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stability for them. I think they stay in this game

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right to the end. And Washington is a young team

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that's just learning how to win again. I can't lay

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six points with them in this one. In the home opener,

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I'm gonna go ahead take the Giants. I think this

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game goes right down to the wire fueld goal either way.

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Let's go ahead and make Kelly happy and make it

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the Giants twenty three to twenty pulling out the upset.

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And just you know, remember the last couple of years,

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there's been one of those favorites that's been a home

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favorite that on paper has not looked like they could

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lose out right. Remember last year when the Cincinnati Bengals

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took out I think about half of the survivor pool

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here in town. Who's gonna be that monstrosity this year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, trust me. I've looked at Eagles on

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Thursday night. I've looked at the Commanders. I don't want

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to play the divisional game. We're gonna get doing the

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best bat segment because it worked for me last year,

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at least from a survivor standpoint. We are the Jets.

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If you guys look on the odds logics and you

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can maybe find yourself a three VR. Let's talk about

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the Jets why you like them on the money line

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and the difference between that two and a half and

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of course that three j.

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Speaker 2: E Ts Jets, Jets, Jets baby. Yeah again the NFL three.

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They're charging so much now, like you can't even get

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it for less than minus one thirty in most spots

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taking off the two and a half, like to go

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from minus from plus two and a half to plus three.

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Most are now charging over that one thirty price. And

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if that's what you're paying, don't do it. You're not

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getting a better number. You're paying for it, and based

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on the money line that you're being charged, you're overpaying.

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So I know it makes you feel a little better

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because three being such a key number and you thinking

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if the game lands three at least, I'll push the

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probability of it happening isn't high enough based on the

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vig they're charging for that half a point, So unless

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you're getting it below the minus one thirty price, I

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would not be buying half a points on and off

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of the three. Again, there was a long time you

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were able to take advantage of that before it was

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so widespread of how key of a number three is

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and you were able to buy half a pointed a discount.

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That is no longer the case here with the Jets.

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We did take the three. I released that through my

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subscribers as a premium play. I like it on the

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money line as well. It's almost a fade of Pittsburgh

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as much as a bet on the Jets. What's Pittsburgh

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gonna do? I mean, they're a huge transformations taking place

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in Pittsburgh, and it needed to because the way they

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just collapsed down the stretch last year. You gotta remember,

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this team got so lucky and they were still bad,

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meaning only one team did better than them in turnover ratio,

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and that was the Buffalo Bills. Otherwise, Pittsburgh was number

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two with the number three team like four, turnovers were

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less than Pittsburgh got. So Pittsburgh got very lucky and

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they still couldn't win and cover football games. That doesn't

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bode well coming into the twenty twenty five season. Now

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all the hype around Rogers, not only Rogers in Pittsburgh,

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but now Rogers returning to play against his old team,

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which you know, I didn't play long for the Jets.

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Too much hype around that and just not enough time

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for that offense. Which I get it. He got the

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names there with Metcalf and Rogers, but it's going to

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take a while to see how this offense plays together cohesively.

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And I just think you're being charged for that already.

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You're being charged for potential over credentials, and that's never

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a good idea, especially laying points on the road. If

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they could contain JJ Watt, I think this is the

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Jets game to lose. I like them here at home.

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I like what I'm seeing out of their new coach,

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defensive minded, defense, defense, defense, and against this Pittsburgh Steeler team,

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that's exactly what you need to do. Give me the Jets,

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take the points, sprinkle that money line. Jets start off

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one and oh all.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm gonna take a small little doggie here myself,

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because this is a tough week. We know there's gonna

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be upsets. We just have to kind of sit back

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and relax. But here is a game that I think

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is a winnable game for the LA Chargers. Sounds so

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weird not to call them San Diego all these years. Look,

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Kansas City has one eight of the last ten meetings,

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So why am I calling for them to lose this game? Well,

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the last three have been decided by a total of

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ten points. The Chargers have a real opportunity to win

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this one on a neutral field, which we hope the

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conditions are better than the last time they played in Brazil.

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Patrick Mahomes basically has an all new receiving corps, plus

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Rashie Rice is suspended. They had a turnover, a couple

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turnovers on the offensive line. No Joe Sony, no DJ Humphrees.

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I expect the Chargers to take advantage here of the

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team with the Super Bowl hangover. We all know how

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bad it is for the team that loses the Super

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Bowl to come out in the next season and get

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a win Week one. I get it. It's the Kansas

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City Chiefs. You guys think that me betting against this

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team is not the smartest thing I've ever done. Would

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I have liked to have gotten the three and a half,

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of course, But I do think that moved from three

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and a half down to three over the summer tells

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us exactly what we need to know. Hey, look, Andy Reid,

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Patrick Mahomes, Steve Spagnolo and the Chiefs four and ten

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against the spread in the last fourteen games. Think you're

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paying a premium here once again for the Chiefs. It's

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just not that necessary. Could be a twenty one twenty final,

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and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to see

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the Chiefs win by a game winning field goal. But

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give me the Chargers plus the three. Give me the

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Chargers on the money line. All right, guys, let's get

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into get your trap. The trap game of the week

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can't be the sandwich unless Marco's feeding me open face sandwiches.

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And it's right around lunchtime, so of course I'm hungry Marco.

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Let's hear it. Who is the biggest trap on the

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board this week?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just gonna make note, Kelly, you gave me

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a lot of grief last year about always having a

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small dog, but I had the biggest dog this week.

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Speaker 1: Just making notice that you did, and I'm very proud

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of you. Listen. I would love to say that this

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team that is your trap game, This is who I

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was gonna put in as my dog, by the way,

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but you're gonna get them out of your trap game.

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And I was like, we can't run it back to.

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Speaker 3: Back, no problem. And Kelly, much like I did with

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the college trap game in week one, what did I say?

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I like to I like to listen to the noise,

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hear all the noise, and then I'm gonna go against

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the noise and the noise that we heard last week.

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It worked out well for us with Auburn against Baylor

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in this spot for the trap game. Now I'm gonna

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do it here with going against Cincinnati. And I know

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I'm high on Cincinnati coming into this season, but I'm

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not high on them in this first game because all

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we heard about all summer long is how they get

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off the slow starts, and to take care of that,

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they played the starters in preseason. Joe Burrow, Zach head

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coaches Zach Taylor said, we're gonna play players, We're gonna

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be ready. We're not having that slow start. And what

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have we seen? They put up big numbers in the preseason.

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We know this offense can score a lot of points.

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And then what's the noise we heard about Cleveland all

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summer long? The quarterback room. We've made so many jokes

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about that quarterback room. They had four quarterbacks. You know

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what do you have when you have four quarterbacks? No quarterbacks?

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When Joe Flacco is your starter, you know you're in trouble. Well, okay,

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all jokes aside. Joe Flacco will be the starter and

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he can move the football. Why because he's going against

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the Cincinnati Bengals defense. That is the one Achilles Heel

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to the Cincinnati Bengals defense to this team this year. Yeah,

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they're gonna put up crazy numbers offensively, but defensively, they're

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gonna have trouble stopping teams and they're gonna have to

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outscore them. So you think, well, that shouldn't be a

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problem because Cleveland, with that quarterback that they have, they're

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not gonna move the football this year. Yeah, they'll be

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able to move against this defense enough to stay in

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this game. And I'm gonna bring out my Golden rule.

476
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Give me the better defense getting points. This is a

477
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home opener, and we've got an underdog, a division rival.

478
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:02,359
Are you kidding me? Too much love for the Bengals here?

479
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,319
They should not be this type of favorite on the road.

480
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,599
We saw this number at six down to five and

481
00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:13,039
a half. I'm taking Cleveland and don't be surprised until

482
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they get that monkey off their back. Cincinnati with those

483
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,000
slow starts losing this game outright again, but I feel

484
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,400
very comfortable with Cleveland plus the five and a half.

485
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,200
I think it's going to come down to a field goal.

486
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:29,240
Let's go ahead and take Cleveland winning it on a

487
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late field goal twenty three to twenty one.

488
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Speaker 1: This is Joe burrow sixth season in the NFL and

489
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he has one and four. That's his first five starts,

490
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one and four. B buyer beware if you are going

491
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to use the Cincinnati Bengals again any Week one of

492
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survivor VR eure up first here because it is time

493
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for best best. Please let everybody know what you've got

494
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,680
going on over at wager talk dot com and then

495
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,839
tell me why we need to be looking at the Giants.

496
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Speaker 2: Plus six Sunday, NFL Week one packages up already premiums

497
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in there, and we'll have the steam rooms Sunday leading

498
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into kickoff. Also, NFL season packages up college football as well.

499
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Currently sitting number one in college football. I expect the

500
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same damage in the NFL set up nicely for a

501
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good regular season, and playoffs have always been good to

502
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,119
us as well. So jump on board for the entire season.

503
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That's way you get the weekly steam rooms, which will

504
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:35,480
come with all that time sensitive information that we get

505
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,160
player props, first quarters, all that stuff leading up the kickoff.

506
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I don't know over towagestalk dot com. And don't overlook

507
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,240
the free picks page. I put free premiums every time

508
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,759
I put out a free pick. They're not just opinions.

509
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,559
It's a premium play off. The card best bet. I

510
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:55,559
gotta fade the Washington Redskins. Few teams are expecting the

511
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,160
regress like Washington. You gotta remember this is a team

512
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,880
that won how many fot ball games in twenty twenty three,

513
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:04,960
like four football games, and then came back and won

514
00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:08,920
twelve the very next season in twenty twenty four. Historically,

515
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,680
those teams always regress. We have the flip side for

516
00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:15,799
the Giants, where they won six games in twenty twenty three,

517
00:29:16,079 --> 00:29:18,480
then dropped the three games in twenty twenty four. Only

518
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,039
one place they could go is more or less up

519
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,759
from there. And I like what I see on the

520
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:24,480
defensive side of the ball, and that's what you want

521
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:26,599
for your dog. If you're gonna bet a dog, you

522
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,599
want two things in the NFL. One you want sixty

523
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,920
minutes of effort, and you've seen against Washington this is

524
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:39,400
more or less NFC East rivalry. The history shows split,

525
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at least recent history.

526
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Speaker 3: If you look over the.

527
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Speaker 2: Last ten, twelve, fifteen games, you'll see close to fifty

528
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,720
to fifty point spread and straight up with both of

529
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:52,240
these teams. They played close games, even last year, which

530
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:56,160
was an outlier, and Washington won both they played. Both

531
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,119
of those games were very close, and that's what you

532
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,720
want from your dog. You want them to give you

533
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,519
sixty minutes of effort. That always leaves the back door open.

534
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,119
You know what I mean. You're down ten points, but

535
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,319
if a team's gonna got heart with two minutes left

536
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:13,240
and get the ball, that back door touchdowns always open,

537
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,359
and you want them to have the ability to win

538
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,559
the game out right. That's key, especially in the NFL

539
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,119
where we see you know, even double digit dogs can

540
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,000
win out right, and this is one of those dogs

541
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,039
that I think really can win out right because it's

542
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:27,920
such a big game for them in Week one that

543
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,400
the Giants can't allow what's happened to them in the past.

544
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And they've been outscored in the first two the first

545
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,920
game of the season over the last two years sixty

546
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eight to six, so they've they've they've played back to

547
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:44,759
blowouts in game one. I think you have a lot

548
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:49,319
of new pieces, new attitude coaching. I think you're gonna

549
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:51,000
get a full effort from the New York Giants. I

550
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:53,759
think you're gonna get a regression from the Washington Redskins.

551
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,319
You have almost the perfect storm overvalued versus undervalued. Give

552
00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:02,240
me the six points with the Giants rest ashore. Washington

553
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,359
will be one of the most heavily teased signs on Sunday.

554
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:10,079
Be careful with that. Be careful. I sprinkled the little

555
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something on the Giants money line. I think it's a

556
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very winnable game for them. Ooh, I like to hear that.

557
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Speaker 1: From a survivor perspective. I know a lot of people

558
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will be using the Commanders on Sunday, Marco D'Angelo, it's

559
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time for your best bet. I'm kindie, Connie, I'm kind

560
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,680
of curious to hear this one. Are we fading the

561
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,599
Green day packers noise? But before you get into it,

562
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:36,799
let's hear what you've got going on this weekend overtwagertalk

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dot com.

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Speaker 3: Well, Kelly, we're promoting the seven day package that's available sitewide.

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You can get seven days for seventy seven dollars, and

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remember that includes any five percent play. Those five percent

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plays sell for thirty five dollars by themselves. Good opening

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week for us, last week in college football for and

569
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oh for us. And remember last year we where the

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number two combined college in NFL football in money one

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at wager Talk. So great season last year, off to

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a running start this year. Get on board and that

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will include also those seven days. You'll get my baseball

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plays and the WNBA plays WNBA fifty three and twenty

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five with our selections in the WNBA, so you will

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get everything. The playoffs are about to start, So seven days,

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seventy seven dollars. Head over to wager Talk for this one.

578
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We're going to take a look at Detroit and green Bay.

579
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And you know what green Bay was getting a lot

580
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of love during the offseason is people expect Detroit to

581
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,400
take a step backwards this year. They lost both their

582
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offensive coordinator and their defensive coordinator. Both got head coaching

583
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,839
jobs this year, and people expect Jordan Love, with another

584
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,240
year under his belt, as the starter to take that

585
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:02,279
next step forward having that experience. Well, I can't totally

586
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:06,640
disagree with that, But then you add what happened last

587
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,880
week Micah Parsons the trade from Dallas. Nobody saw this coming.

588
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,599
He's now a green Bay Packer and the expectations are

589
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,480
off the chart. Now with Green Bay, did he improve

590
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:25,119
the Packer defense by being traded there? Absolutely? But how

591
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,079
much of an impact can he possibly make him one week?

592
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,759
You know, they say he's going to be available, but again,

593
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,720
you know, you don't know the system, you don't know

594
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:38,599
playing with one another. There's gonna be growing pains at

595
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,880
the team, gelling to one another. People got to be

596
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,200
in the right positions. Will this defense be even better

597
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,680
than it was before? Yeah, but give it a couple

598
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,160
of weeks. If this game was played a month from now,

599
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,640
I probably would have a totally different opinion, But right now,

600
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,599
I have to look at the facts, and the facts

601
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:59,079
are Detroit has owned this series with the Packers. They've

602
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:02,880
won six of the life seven. Last year when they

603
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,839
played here, green Bay was a two and a half

604
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:10,480
point underdog and they lost by ten. Now they're a

605
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,360
two and a half point favorite. Are you seriously going

606
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,719
to tell me that the Packers have improved five points

607
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,440
from last year and made up that difference of the

608
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,559
ten points that they lost the game from I don't

609
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:26,880
think so. Until you knock the king off his crown,

610
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:29,960
he's still the king, and the Lions have owned this

611
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,800
division the last few years. I don't see green Bay

612
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,719
knocking them off just yet. Like I said, give me

613
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,239
a month and I might have a different opinion. But

614
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,119
for Week one, I think Detroit is better prepared to

615
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,760
hit the ground running, and I'm gonna go ahead and

616
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,880
take Detroit plus the two and a half and yeah,

617
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:55,039
I'll be looking at some teasers probably on Sunday as well,

618
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:59,400
with Detroit, because even if they do lose this game,

619
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I don't see green Bay getting separation from the Lions

620
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:07,480
with that offense. That will be a very juicy looking

621
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,760
teaser for me.

622
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: Kelly, Yeah, Green Bay's getting a lot of love in

623
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,800
the marketplace this year. I'm not sure. Maybe, as you mentioned,

624
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,039
we should tune out some of that noise until we

625
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:23,719
see otherwise. Okay, guys, here's what I did last year

626
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,320
for my best bets. I gave them out on the

627
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,480
show because they were my survivor picks, and then they

628
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,519
subsequently didn't cover, but they didn't lose. So we're gonna

629
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:34,159
go with it again now just for personal this is

630
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:37,599
for my personal benefit only, all jokes aside. I saw

631
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:39,840
a tweet this morning and I went back and forth

632
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,920
on the Denver Broncos. As you can see, I grew

633
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,400
up a Denver Broncos fan. I have not been a

634
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,559
Denver Broncos fan since they won the Super Bowl. I

635
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,719
found great spots to bet on and against this team.

636
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,079
I think this is the week to bet on this team.

637
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:56,000
There have been twenty eight quarterbacks taking the number one

638
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,880
pick since the merger of nineteen seventy and their first start.

639
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,079
There are five twenty two to one straight up and

640
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,039
eight and twenty against the spread. Cam Ward making his

641
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:11,440
debut in Denver this weekend. We've talked about rookie quarterbacks

642
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,280
in their first start, especially on the road. Yeah, I know,

643
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,840
this Titans team went two and fifteen against the spread

644
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,920
the season, so we should be looking to see that reverse.

645
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,199
Maybe they also finished the season in minus sixteen turnover margin.

646
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,159
I pretty much wrote that team off Week one after

647
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:37,440
somehow losing that game to Chicago. Different quarterback, different scenario,

648
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,159
probably the same defense. Maybe they can take a step

649
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:45,719
forward this year. We'll see Broncos head coach Sean Payton

650
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,400
in his third year. Bo Nicks great passing attack, but man,

651
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,639
that running game was very frustrating. The Broncos finished in

652
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,239
the bottom half of the league in their rushing metrics.

653
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,519
So what they do. They brought in former charger JK.

654
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:01,000
Dobbins and they drafted rookie RJ.

655
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: Harvey.

656
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: I expect the Broncos to run the ball here. I

657
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,800
expect them to open up that passing game for bow Nicks,

658
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:12,159
and I expect that Tennessee defense to get exploited once again.

659
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,000
We'll see cam Ward can't pull out some of that

660
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,119
magic there that he had in Miami last season, where

661
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:21,880
they somehow won every single game, well at least the

662
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,760
first nine. I actually even rewatched that col game on

663
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,159
Saturday with Grandma, don't ask. It was not fun again.

664
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,159
We'll see what that defensive line is capable of. Can

665
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,639
they stop the run? I don't think so. I think

666
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:39,159
this Titans team is a big time work in progress,

667
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:40,280
and I know a lot of people are gonna be

668
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,400
wanting to bet against them and survivor. I think the

669
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,719
Broncos get the win, but I also think the Broncos

670
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,960
win convinsively. I'm gonna lay eight with the Broncos. I'm

671
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,320
gonna put him in a ton of teasers. I expect

672
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,159
Sean Payton to run back that double digit win season

673
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,360
this season. Give me the Broncos minus the eight. Late

674
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,280
to the party, but not too late yet. Marco VR

675
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,840
thank you guys always for your contributions here on bet

676
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on It, the NFL edition, of course, the college football edition,

677
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,400
and if you guys missed the college football edition, you

678
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,079
guys can go right here and absolutely watch that thirty

679
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:22,360
seven thousand if you guys watched it last weekend and

680
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:26,719
Marco and br had a great weekend, me not so much.

681
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,159
We're gonna try to run it back down, of course,

682
00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:30,800
if you guys are missing TNA, Ralph Michaels now has

683
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his own standalone segment here on the wager Talk YouTube channel.

684
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,559
We're gonna have stock Watch with Teddy Covers up there,

685
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:41,000
as well as the Prop Shop with Andy Lang. So

686
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:43,920
your full show is still here, it's just a little

687
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,400
bit more segmented. We wanted to bring back the old

688
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school VR and Marco's put up that recap graphic for

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everybody who scrolled to the end. The least you guys

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can do is give us that thumbs up and of

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