Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property, And for this week of September sixteenth,
Speaker 1: we're continuing with Lost, Season one, episode eleven. All the
Speaker 1: Best Cowboys have Daddy Issues. Put it right out there.
Speaker 1: It's about right out there. We we heard you talking
Speaker 1: and we renamed this episode just for y'all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh, this was a tough one.
Speaker 1: It was oh my goodness, Jack, Yeah, except the boy.
Speaker 1: You know, if you ever have a problem that is
Speaker 1: going to require CPR, and you want somebody to never
Speaker 1: give up on you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the one.
Speaker 2: Well, it reminded me of when you were talking about
Speaker 2: how you know, Gen and Son don't speak English, so
Speaker 2: if you just speak louder, they'll eventually get it. And
Speaker 2: this was the same thing, like do your normal CPR
Speaker 2: and then if that doesn't work, just keep pounding on
Speaker 2: this person's body, like just basically punching him in the
Speaker 2: chest about ten times.
Speaker 1: It's gonna leave a mark.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if he's dead, it doesn't matter. And
Speaker 1: if he's not, yeah, yeah, Like.
Speaker 2: I hope no future like lifeguards or e mts are watching.
Speaker 1: Where Lad Boone wasn't there to see it.
Speaker 3: Do you think Boone is a good lifeguard?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's the one who would see
Speaker 1: that and then just wall up the bleep out of
Speaker 1: the next person, right, He's like.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess this is how you do it.
Speaker 1: Oh man, He's gonna bring Charlie back to life through
Speaker 1: the force of his will.
Speaker 3: You sure is.
Speaker 1: God complex screw ten sizes that day. Wow, But you
Speaker 1: know he couldn't save the girl and so he's gonna
Speaker 1: save him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man. And like Claire.
Speaker 1: Uh, Claire, Hello, Claire, you're here somewhere.
Speaker 2: But the the others just wanted her if they didn't.
Speaker 3: Care about Charlie.
Speaker 1: I think possibly they only just want the baby, to
Speaker 1: be honest. But since I have previous sleep taken Russeau's child,
Speaker 1: it seems like they got a thing for kids. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot to unpack in this one. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jack's dad just keeps getting better and better.
Speaker 3: Done.
Speaker 1: Screw up, make your kid, well, not quite take the
Speaker 1: fall for it, but go along.
Speaker 3: Cover it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cover it up for you, because you're just Every
Speaker 1: terrible thing you've ever done was just to help him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Harden that soft metal into steel has it has it
Speaker 1: as making you the kind of guy who's going to
Speaker 1: punch somebody in the chest under times if it's necessary.
Speaker 1: I bet you wish it was me you were punching.
Speaker 1: But still yeah, but and he uh, he finds out
Speaker 1: that the person that his dad sort of killed was pregnant,
Speaker 1: and that I thought that was what kicked it over
Speaker 1: for him, and that's why he's got such a thing
Speaker 1: about Claire, having let Claire down lost. Pedias says that
Speaker 1: when Jack saw his father talking to the husband of
Speaker 1: the dead woman. His dad was talking to this guy
Speaker 1: and putting his hand on his shoulder exactly the way
Speaker 1: he had done with Jack, and Jack was like, scam exactly.
Speaker 1: So that's why, which is also a good reason and
Speaker 1: undoubtedly true. I mean, his dad was clearly scamming.
Speaker 2: Him, right, and both be true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but definitely the pregnancy of that dead person is
Speaker 1: what makes him feel like exponentially more guilty about not
Speaker 1: having believed Claire and Hunter. So right, dang it. If
Speaker 1: he's gotta beat dead people, he's gonna do it. He
Speaker 1: is Wow, not losing this patient.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was not expecting it to go. I mean
Speaker 2: I should never expect it anything, you should not. But
Speaker 2: I was like, but Charlie, he's like he's a character
Speaker 2: that we know, Like.
Speaker 3: He's not supposed to die.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I also forgot to mention in the previous episode,
Speaker 2: or maybe it was even the one before that, wherever
Speaker 2: the one was where Claire was having contractions and Charlie
Speaker 2: was starting to count how long they were Yeah, and
Speaker 2: he said one sugar plum fairy, two sugar plumb fairy.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, like yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: guess people in other countries are not going.
Speaker 3: To say Mississippi.
Speaker 1: Mississippi are counting the second.
Speaker 3: Cultural cultural footnote.
Speaker 2: Tell yes, I don't know if that's really what they
Speaker 2: say in England or wherever.
Speaker 1: Have a correctly syllabled location there that they could insert,
Speaker 1: But Mississippi just works so well. It should be the
Speaker 1: just the standard unit.
Speaker 2: Sugar plum fairies nice, you know, brings you a little,
Speaker 2: a little lighthearted.
Speaker 1: Appropriate, Yes, So all sorts of parenting stuff on that
Speaker 1: jack thing, how to be a really horrible dad, yes,
Speaker 1: and how to never give.
Speaker 3: Up, how to stand up to your.
Speaker 1: Really horrible to your dad. And also you know, you
Speaker 1: feel responsible for absolutely everybody. Anything that goes wrong, it's
Speaker 1: because you believed somebody, or you didn't believe somebody, you know.
Speaker 1: And when Ethan comes to him with stop or I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill one of them, so therefore that will be
Speaker 1: his fault too, So he's kind of, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: he does, something bad is gonna happen. I know that feeling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a parent thing. Yeah, it's all entirely your responsibility.
Speaker 1: Whatever goes wrong, it's your fault. Whatever goes right was
Speaker 1: probably because something somebody else did right that was just luck.
Speaker 1: And the scene where he's walloping Charlie and Kate is
Speaker 1: standing by, going jack jack st. I think my husband
Speaker 1: may relate to that. Sometimes just go off like seems extreme.
Speaker 1: You could just back down a little bit. She's got
Speaker 1: to be going, oh what is this guy? He's so
Speaker 1: hyper competent sometimes and sometimes he's just completely nuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes he's just beating the crap out of a
Speaker 2: dead person.
Speaker 1: After that scene, my husband said he was just mostly dead. Right,
Speaker 1: tip of the hat to the Princess Brian.
Speaker 3: He's only mostly dead.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Well, and a new babysitter has entered the chat, which
Speaker 2: is Hurley.
Speaker 1: Playing back him, and it was wals He's delightful. Oh
Speaker 1: he's delightful, is early? Yes, much better, much better babysitter.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be stabbing a boar or doing anything dangerous, right, However,
Speaker 1: Walt does less. Let's slip that he has another dad,
Speaker 1: preivably his mother's has been door significant other.
Speaker 2: Right, That's that's what I would guess. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't suppose that that's all that shocking, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean that he's never lived with Michael and right,
Speaker 2: but but we don't know, like the backstory of why
Speaker 2: does his mom keep hauling him all over the place?
Speaker 2: And right, how they end up in Australia.
Speaker 1: Right, given the example of Michael's stellar parenting, would Brian
Speaker 1: not have fought him for custody? But there not have
Speaker 1: been some arrangement. I bet you could have paid that
Speaker 1: guy off to keep the kid. Yeah, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: volunteering for every possible dangerous mission because you know, it's
Speaker 1: not like he has anything to live for, right buddy
Speaker 1: that he needs to take care of. Yeah, she's well,
Speaker 1: now he's a child protective services in the jungle, that
Speaker 1: guy would be in trouble. Yes, Actually, maybe the others
Speaker 1: are going to be the child protective services. I would
Speaker 1: watch out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's yeah, they want the baby, but they
Speaker 3: don't care about Walts. Apparently we'll see.
Speaker 2: We get Locke and Boone having some discussions and we.
Speaker 3: Find out by time. So, yeah, we find out.
Speaker 2: Boone is being very cagey about how he works in
Speaker 2: the wedding industry.
Speaker 3: Like why is this so.
Speaker 1: You know, what really humiliating thing does he do? I wonder? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like mail a bachelorrette parties.
Speaker 3: I mean it sounded like that.
Speaker 2: He really didn't want to get specific about what it was.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, Locke tells him exactly what he did, right.
Speaker 1: Boon's like, oh yeah, sure.
Speaker 3: Right, a box company.
Speaker 2: Uh, that's what they all say.
Speaker 1: He had one of those titles that make you think,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is just exactly where he was
Speaker 1: a guy in a cubicle with no future.
Speaker 3: Yep. I think he said he was in collections, didn't he?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so. Just sounds like the most
Speaker 1: worst ray and desperate and horrible. Yea horrible job. Oh well,
Speaker 1: but now now look at him. He's a master tracker.
Speaker 3: That's right, he's a master tracker. He can hunt for.
Speaker 1: Jack says, no, we have to keep going, and Locke says, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to the caves. I'm gonna sumle
Speaker 1: my through.
Speaker 2: Right, Yea, I will find you because I know you
Speaker 2: won't get very far.
Speaker 1: Kate's like, I have to go with him.
Speaker 3: I have to stay with him.
Speaker 1: The Lock is like, fine, you do your thing, I'll
Speaker 1: do mine. Man. Although Jack is the one who found Charlie, so.
Speaker 3: That's right, there you go. But did they go did.
Speaker 1: Go around and start enough?
Speaker 2: You might buy well, it was Kate, who was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it might be a fake trail, and let's go. So
Speaker 2: in fact, it was a fake trail, right yeah, if
Speaker 2: a throw them off the scent trail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we Locke did not find Charlie or Claire,
Speaker 1: but he did. They did find what will come to
Speaker 1: be known as the hatch.
Speaker 3: Oh. Yes, that was the end of the episode.
Speaker 1: In the ground, what could it be?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to venture, I guess that's
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: Just a manhole cover. You know, you're doing some roadwork
Speaker 1: there in the jungle. It's got some tools and pipes
Speaker 1: and stuff. Right, sure, there'll be nothing dramatic about it whatsoever. No,
Speaker 1: but Locke's eyes lit up pretty good when he saw that.
Speaker 2: Gets some mystery, and I'm gonna be the first one.
Speaker 1: In Yep, yep, yep. Nothing really good happened if this
Speaker 1: episode did.
Speaker 2: No except for except for Walt winning twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: That's true, it's true. Except I have a feeling that
Speaker 1: Hurley is not good for it.
Speaker 3: He's not going to collect it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: But you know, glad to see Walt having some fun
Speaker 1: with somebody.
Speaker 3: That's right, me too.
Speaker 1: You ever played backgammon, not for like decades, probably, I don't.
Speaker 1: I had a boyfriend in high school who played back Ammon,
Speaker 1: and so I played a lot of backabon for a
Speaker 1: very short time, and then I have never played it since.
Speaker 1: People who like to play it like to play it.
Speaker 2: Walt seemed to be good at it, good getting the
Speaker 2: picked it right up, getting the roles that he needed
Speaker 2: from the dice.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Are we supposed to read anything into that
Speaker 1: that he's able to get just the roles he needed?
Speaker 3: Probably?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Everything. You should feel free to read everything, anything
Speaker 1: into everything, right because even if you're wrong, it will
Speaker 1: be something else, it will be just as ridiculous. Right,
Speaker 1: So you know, that's what this show is all about.
Speaker 1: As I have mentioned, people did, to a large extent
Speaker 1: just write thousands and thousands of words about this leaf
Speaker 1: that they passed. So and I read them and it
Speaker 1: was fun. Excellent job by that actor playing Jack's dad
Speaker 1: of being just entirely loathsome and even the well even
Speaker 1: the nurses hate him apparent. Oh golly, well, those are
Speaker 1: our daddy issues for today. Okay, except we did we
Speaker 1: did also hear about Kate Kate and her tracking dad,
Speaker 1: That's right, we did so little a little warm moment
Speaker 1: from Kate's pass there that will probably turn out to
Speaker 1: be how she ran away from things, Yeah, escaped or
Speaker 1: why or some of the outback. Yeah, I'm sure she's
Speaker 1: sounds sounds real nice now. But I bet they had issues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet she and her dad had some issues.
Speaker 1: Daddy isshes here, Daddy ishes there everywhere. Ah Well. Next Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we will continue with season one, episode twelve of Lost,
Speaker 1: called whatever the Case May Be, and it is in
Speaker 1: fact a Kate flashback episode. Those two characters are jumping
Speaker 1: the line. There's like tears, yes, ones in their contract
Speaker 1: we will get a flashback episode every so many episodes,
Speaker 1: and everybody else is like whenever, it's fine, I'll just
Speaker 1: take one place to get to you. You can tell
Speaker 1: you can give them all the mortal and moral anguish.
Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just be over here getting you know.
Speaker 1: My chest pounded on. Oh my so Also today, as
Speaker 1: you hear, this is the premiere of Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars season thirty three. It's back in all it's fangly glory,
Speaker 1: and this is a show that we've often watched and
Speaker 1: discussed in the past. This time around, at least for
Speaker 1: the first bunch of episodes of it. We are going
Speaker 1: to talk about it on Thursdays as part of our
Speaker 1: weekly roundup because here these networks don't schedule thing and
Speaker 1: things in a way that it's convenient for us to
Speaker 1: record and talk about them.
Speaker 3: They don't.
Speaker 1: What's with that? We have network, you know, So this
Speaker 1: is about the best we can do is talk about
Speaker 1: a Tuesday night show on Thursday. We appreciate your patience
Speaker 1: because I'm sure that once you watch, you immediately want
Speaker 1: to hear what did Terry and Catherine think about it?
Speaker 1: But Thursday's pretty quick, you know, too, sleeps until you
Speaker 1: can hear us, so that will be coming up in
Speaker 1: addition to tomorrow's chat about only murders in the building.
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