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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, And for this week of September sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>we're continuing with Lost, Season one, episode eleven. All the

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<v Speaker 1>Best Cowboys have Daddy Issues. Put it right out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about right out there. We we heard you talking

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<v Speaker 1>and we renamed this episode just for y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, oh, this was a tough one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was oh my goodness, Jack, Yeah, except the boy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you ever have a problem that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to require CPR, and you want somebody to never

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<v Speaker 1>give up on you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it reminded me of when you were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how you know, Gen and Son don't speak English, so

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<v Speaker 2>if you just speak louder, they'll eventually get it. And

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<v Speaker 2>this was the same thing, like do your normal CPR

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<v Speaker 2>and then if that doesn't work, just keep pounding on

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<v Speaker 2>this person's body, like just basically punching him in the

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<v Speaker 2>chest about ten times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna leave a mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean if he's dead, it doesn't matter. And

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<v Speaker 1>if he's not, yeah, yeah, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope no future like lifeguards or e mts are watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Where Lad Boone wasn't there to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think Boone is a good lifeguard?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but he's the one who would see

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<v Speaker 1>that and then just wall up the bleep out of

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<v Speaker 1>the next person, right, He's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess this is how you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, He's gonna bring Charlie back to life through

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<v Speaker 1>the force of his will.

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<v Speaker 3>You sure is.

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<v Speaker 1>God complex screw ten sizes that day. Wow, But you

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<v Speaker 1>know he couldn't save the girl and so he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>save him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh man. And like Claire.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Claire, Hello, Claire, you're here somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>But the the others just wanted her if they didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Care about Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>I think possibly they only just want the baby, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest. But since I have previous sleep taken Russeau's child,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like they got a thing for kids. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to unpack in this one. Man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack's dad just keeps getting better and better.

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<v Speaker 3>Done.

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<v Speaker 1>Screw up, make your kid, well, not quite take the

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<v Speaker 1>fall for it, but go along.

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<v Speaker 3>Cover it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cover it up for you, because you're just Every

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<v Speaker 1>terrible thing you've ever done was just to help him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Harden that soft metal into steel has it has it

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<v Speaker 1>as making you the kind of guy who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>punch somebody in the chest under times if it's necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you wish it was me you were punching.

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<v Speaker 1>But still yeah, but and he uh, he finds out

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<v Speaker 1>that the person that his dad sort of killed was pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I thought that was what kicked it over

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<v Speaker 1>for him, and that's why he's got such a thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Claire, having let Claire down lost. Pedias says that

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<v Speaker 1>when Jack saw his father talking to the husband of

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<v Speaker 1>the dead woman. His dad was talking to this guy

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<v Speaker 1>and putting his hand on his shoulder exactly the way

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<v Speaker 1>he had done with Jack, and Jack was like, scam exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why, which is also a good reason and

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<v Speaker 1>undoubtedly true. I mean, his dad was clearly scamming.

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<v Speaker 2>Him, right, and both be true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but definitely the pregnancy of that dead person is

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<v Speaker 1>what makes him feel like exponentially more guilty about not

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<v Speaker 1>having believed Claire and Hunter. So right, dang it. If

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<v Speaker 1>he's gotta beat dead people, he's gonna do it. He

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<v Speaker 1>is Wow, not losing this patient.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was not expecting it to go. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I should never expect it anything, you should not. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, but Charlie, he's like he's a character

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<v Speaker 2>that we know, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not supposed to die.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also forgot to mention in the previous episode,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe it was even the one before that, wherever

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<v Speaker 2>the one was where Claire was having contractions and Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>was starting to count how long they were Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said one sugar plum fairy, two sugar plumb fairy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, like yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>guess people in other countries are not going.

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<v Speaker 3>To say Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi are counting the second.

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<v Speaker 3>Cultural cultural footnote.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell yes, I don't know if that's really what they

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<v Speaker 2>say in England or wherever.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a correctly syllabled location there that they could insert,

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<v Speaker 1>But Mississippi just works so well. It should be the

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<v Speaker 1>just the standard unit.

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<v Speaker 2>Sugar plum fairies nice, you know, brings you a little,

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<v Speaker 2>a little lighthearted.

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<v Speaker 1>Appropriate, Yes, So all sorts of parenting stuff on that

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<v Speaker 1>jack thing, how to be a really horrible dad, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and how to never give.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, how to stand up to your.

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<v Speaker 1>Really horrible to your dad. And also you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>feel responsible for absolutely everybody. Anything that goes wrong, it's

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<v Speaker 1>because you believed somebody, or you didn't believe somebody, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And when Ethan comes to him with stop or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kill one of them, so therefore that will be

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<v Speaker 1>his fault too, So he's kind of, you know, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he does, something bad is gonna happen. I know that feeling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a parent thing. Yeah, it's all entirely your responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever goes wrong, it's your fault. Whatever goes right was

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<v Speaker 1>probably because something somebody else did right that was just luck.

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<v Speaker 1>And the scene where he's walloping Charlie and Kate is

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<v Speaker 1>standing by, going jack jack st. I think my husband

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<v Speaker 1>may relate to that. Sometimes just go off like seems extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>You could just back down a little bit. She's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be going, oh what is this guy? He's so

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<v Speaker 1>hyper competent sometimes and sometimes he's just completely nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometimes he's just beating the crap out of a

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<v Speaker 2>dead person.

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<v Speaker 1>After that scene, my husband said he was just mostly dead. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>tip of the hat to the Princess Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>He's only mostly dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and a new babysitter has entered the chat, which

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<v Speaker 2>is Hurley.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing back him, and it was wals He's delightful. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>he's delightful, is early? Yes, much better, much better babysitter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be stabbing a boar or doing anything dangerous, right, However,

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<v Speaker 1>Walt does less. Let's slip that he has another dad,

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<v Speaker 1>preivably his mother's has been door significant other.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, That's that's what I would guess. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't suppose that that's all that shocking, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that he's never lived with Michael and right,

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<v Speaker 2>but but we don't know, like the backstory of why

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<v Speaker 2>does his mom keep hauling him all over the place?

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<v Speaker 2>And right, how they end up in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, given the example of Michael's stellar parenting, would Brian

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<v Speaker 1>not have fought him for custody? But there not have

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<v Speaker 1>been some arrangement. I bet you could have paid that

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<v Speaker 1>guy off to keep the kid. Yeah, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>volunteering for every possible dangerous mission because you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he has anything to live for, right buddy

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<v Speaker 1>that he needs to take care of. Yeah, she's well,

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<v Speaker 1>now he's a child protective services in the jungle, that

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<v Speaker 1>guy would be in trouble. Yes, Actually, maybe the others

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be the child protective services. I would

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<v Speaker 1>watch out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he's yeah, they want the baby, but they

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<v Speaker 3>don't care about Walts. Apparently we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>We get Locke and Boone having some discussions and we.

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<v Speaker 3>Find out by time. So, yeah, we find out.

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<v Speaker 2>Boone is being very cagey about how he works in

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<v Speaker 2>the wedding industry.

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<v Speaker 3>Like why is this so.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what really humiliating thing does he do? I wonder? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like mail a bachelorrette parties.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it sounded like that.

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<v Speaker 2>He really didn't want to get specific about what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile, Locke tells him exactly what he did, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Boon's like, oh yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, a box company.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, that's what they all say.

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<v Speaker 1>He had one of those titles that make you think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, this is just exactly where he was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy in a cubicle with no future.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. I think he said he was in collections, didn't he?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think so. Just sounds like the most

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<v Speaker 1>worst ray and desperate and horrible. Yea horrible job. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>but now now look at him. He's a master tracker.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, he's a master tracker. He can hunt for.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack says, no, we have to keep going, and Locke says, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go back to the caves. I'm gonna sumle

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<v Speaker 1>my through.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yea, I will find you because I know you

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<v Speaker 2>won't get very far.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate's like, I have to go with him.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to stay with him.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lock is like, fine, you do your thing, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do mine. Man. Although Jack is the one who found Charlie, so.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, there you go. But did they go did.

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<v Speaker 1>Go around and start enough?

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<v Speaker 2>You might buy well, it was Kate, who was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it might be a fake trail, and let's go. So

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, it was a fake trail, right yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>a throw them off the scent trail.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we Locke did not find Charlie or Claire,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did. They did find what will come to

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<v Speaker 1>be known as the hatch.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. Yes, that was the end of the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>In the ground, what could it be?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not going to venture, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 3>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a manhole cover. You know, you're doing some roadwork

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<v Speaker 1>there in the jungle. It's got some tools and pipes

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Right, sure, there'll be nothing dramatic about it whatsoever. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but Locke's eyes lit up pretty good when he saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets some mystery, and I'm gonna be the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>In Yep, yep, yep. Nothing really good happened if this

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<v Speaker 1>episode did.

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<v Speaker 2>No except for except for Walt winning twenty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, it's true. Except I have a feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>Hurley is not good for it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not going to collect it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, glad to see Walt having some fun

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Walt seemed to be good at it, good getting the

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<v Speaker 2>picked it right up, getting the roles that he needed

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Are we supposed to read anything into that

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Everything. You should feel free to read everything, anything

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, that's what this show is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>As I have mentioned, people did, to a large extent

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<v Speaker 1>was fun. Excellent job by that actor playing Jack's dad

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<v Speaker 1>sounds sounds real nice now. But I bet they had issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I bet she and her dad had some issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy isshes here, Daddy ishes there everywhere. Ah Well. Next Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Stars season thirty three. It's back in all it's fangly glory,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a show that we've often watched and

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<v Speaker 1>a Tuesday night show on Thursday. We appreciate your patience

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