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<v Speaker 1>And I just turned around and I call ass out

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<v Speaker 1>of there. I was done.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't dealing with them.

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<v Speaker 1>The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my

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<v Speaker 1>head lights on, it turned and looked at us.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things I remember the most, where

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<v Speaker 2>the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just circling these steps like it is waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for me. And he begins to tell them that he

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<v Speaker 2>saw UFO.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically like, what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle,

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<v Speaker 2>nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye

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<v Speaker 2>contact with this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like death.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Tinfoil Tell tonight. I'm joined by Kate

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<v Speaker 2>Kate for thanks for coming here talking with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon, would you like to let the audience know a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about yourself before we get into it?

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<v Speaker 1>Hah oh god, okay, typical human material girl for the

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<v Speaker 1>first thirty years, then realized that was a dead end.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the mortgage, the house, the two point five kids,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and so you know, I gave up the

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<v Speaker 1>material route at that point at age thirty, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the only road left unexplored at that point was the

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<v Speaker 1>road within. And so, you know, I've always been kind

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<v Speaker 1>of turned off by religion. It always seemed kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like strange to me. The attitudes they, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>were put forward about humanity being so you know, lowly

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<v Speaker 1>worms and all that. So that was a turnoff. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I turned to spirituality and learn to meditate

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<v Speaker 1>and follow a few gurus and thought I knew everything.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd Brandon, if you'd asked me, oh God, even

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago, you know, do you know about life,

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<v Speaker 1>the universe and everything? And I would have confidently went, yeah, Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>I know about anything. Just ask me. And then, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, COVID happened, and I got off my

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<v Speaker 1>meditation cushion and popped my my positivity bubble and looked

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<v Speaker 1>around the world and went, what the hell is really

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<v Speaker 1>going on? You know, for thirty years in spirituality Land,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd you know, been meditating and taught to leave my

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<v Speaker 1>body and go into bliss and that's where God was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the meantime, the whole world is going to hell.

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<v Speaker 1>And I when COVID hit that whole, that whole kind

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<v Speaker 1>of they call it spiritual bypassing, and that whole spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>bypassing of Yeah, I can close my eyes and go

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<v Speaker 1>into bliss okay, and quiet my mind and ignore everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But how healthy is that? And how is that helping me?

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<v Speaker 1>And how is that helping humanity and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. So, you know, I think for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people, like you know, COVID was a huge turning

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<v Speaker 1>point for me where I just looked at the world

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<v Speaker 1>gone mad and went, well, yeah, what the hell is

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<v Speaker 1>really going on? And that's when I started researching something

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, being again in the spirituality, Love and

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<v Speaker 1>Light brigade, I turned around and started looking at the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>I started researching, well, what is evil anyway? And it

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<v Speaker 1>was the exact opposite of everything that I'd been taught

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<v Speaker 1>for almost thirty years. You know, you don't look at

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<v Speaker 1>the dark stuff. You want to be positive and filled

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<v Speaker 1>with happiness all the time, because if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the dark stuff, then you're going to magnetize it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, that whole mindset had to go bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I started researching evil. When I was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>dog on shocked at what I discovered.

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<v Speaker 2>I think twenty twenty was probably the year that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people had like some great awakening, just because

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<v Speaker 2>of the way the world was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm also a health I'm also a

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<v Speaker 1>health writer. I was raised in a medical allopathic family,

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<v Speaker 1>and so early on I was pulled in two directions Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>I was either going to be a doctor or I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a writer. Well, what happened is

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up choosing the writing path. I worked in

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<v Speaker 1>television as an editor for a long time. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>switched into journalism and worked as a newspaper journalist for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, and then I segued into writing books

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<v Speaker 1>and editing books. So journalism is my background fundamentally, and

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<v Speaker 1>so also when COVID happened, I write for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of alternative health magazines like Lynn McTaggart's What Doctors Don't

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<v Speaker 1>Tell You, published out of the UK, and so I've

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<v Speaker 1>been writing in the alternative healing field for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>When COVID hit, the first thing I did was pitch

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<v Speaker 1>my editor an article on hey, how about an article

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<v Speaker 1>on homeopathy for treating COVID? And this was in March

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty, and she said, gave me the thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 1>I researched, I talked to homeopath homeopaths around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to the one of the leading homeopathic epidemiologists

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, Jeremy Cher out of South Africa, and

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<v Speaker 1>by March he'd already treated over eight hundred patients homeopathically

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<v Speaker 1>for COVID with great success. I mean, everybody was up

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<v Speaker 1>and on their feet and out the door three to

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<v Speaker 1>seven days later. And so I was like, oh, cool, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to worry about COVID. And I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>the article and supplied everybody with all the information on

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<v Speaker 1>the on which homeopathic remedies to use for COVID, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the time he heard came out in May,

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<v Speaker 1>the world was in lockdown, and you know, and the

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<v Speaker 1>governments were saying there's no cure, there's no treatment. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>just wait until you have to go to the hospital

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<v Speaker 1>and then die. And I was like, wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Meantime, I'm doing other health articles, talking to

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<v Speaker 1>natural paths and Chinese medical doctors and functional medical doctors

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<v Speaker 1>and every doctor I talked to who had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an alternative event was going, Yeah, we're treating with vitamin D,

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing IV vitamin C infusions and is working great.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's going to the hospital, everybody's getting over it. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was when I just went, Okay, conspiracy land, here

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<v Speaker 1>I come. We're being screwed with. And so that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>why I did start researching the Dark Side, and what

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<v Speaker 1>I discovered was what I discovered was I could track

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<v Speaker 1>it back about five or six thousand years Brandon, and

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<v Speaker 1>every culture on every continent on this planet for thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of years has had a name for a non physical,

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<v Speaker 1>very dark, interdimensional influence. The ancient Greeks called these mind parasites,

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<v Speaker 1>actually called them the arkans, the evil whisperers who who

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<v Speaker 1>make men mad. The Tibetan Buddhists call them the hungry ghosts.

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<v Speaker 1>Native American the Iroqui nation refer to these beings as wutiko.

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<v Speaker 1>Other Native American tribes refer to them as win Dingo.

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<v Speaker 1>I live in Hawaii, and the Hawaiian Cohunas refer to

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<v Speaker 1>them as the epa. I mean. Even psychologists, psychiatrists like

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Jung, he was very well aware of this negative, parasitic,

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<v Speaker 1>negative mind, parasite. Called it anti Mimus, the anti Christ

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<v Speaker 1>energy and influence on this planet. So at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>as I say, everywhere, I looked everybody, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>the Christians call this, you know, Satan or the devil.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>As the interior to ask, I said, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>for like in the Christian viewpoint, it would be like

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<v Speaker 2>the devil or demons or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. The the Jewish call it abadan ibliss. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the names are legion. So you know, at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, holy moly, everybody knows about this.

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<v Speaker 1>We've known about a dark force dragging humanity down into

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<v Speaker 1>the mud and mire for thousands of years. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that old image of the devil on one shoulder and

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<v Speaker 1>the Angel on the other, you know, whispering in the

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<v Speaker 1>New York vying for your soul. That really wasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>far off. And so my next question Brandon was that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I looked at Okay, everybody knows about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has known about this for thousands of years. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has a name and a description. Oh my gosh. I

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<v Speaker 1>worked with Shamans. I did a lot of plant medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain point in my life. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was working down in the Amazon with a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of shamans for months on end, and every shaman worth

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<v Speaker 1>their salt who was traditionally trained, they knew about these

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<v Speaker 1>dark entities. They knew about demons. They were very, very real,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were blatant about removing negative demonic forces from

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<v Speaker 1>people who did ceremony with them. And it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, hoham yaan. You know, we've known about this

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<v Speaker 1>for forever. It's about time the rest of the world

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<v Speaker 1>caught on. So the next question I had to ask

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<v Speaker 1>myself at that point was, well, Okay, we all know

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and we've known about it forever. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we know about it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've heard the stories and have ideas, but

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<v Speaker 2>no one actually knows. It's just all different names for

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<v Speaker 2>the same type of energy or whatever it could be,

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<v Speaker 2>this negative thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean, for God's sakes, I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>many Hollywood movies starting with Linda Blair and The Exorcist

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen whenever that was seventy two or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Hollywood has depicted these beings forever, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it's unknown so then I started going down

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<v Speaker 1>the rabbit hole of well, if we don't know about it,

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<v Speaker 1>like why, And it was because it's an interdimensional, non human,

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<v Speaker 1>non physical presence. It has been here I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how many million, thousand the years, and so it wants

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<v Speaker 1>to stay hidden. So the agenda, Brandon, is to stay

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<v Speaker 1>hidden so that these entities can literally influence human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>They are parasitic in nature. They feed on energy. As

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<v Speaker 1>I say, they're parasites. That's why the Tibetan Buddhists call

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<v Speaker 1>them hungry ghosts. They feed on people's light, They feed

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<v Speaker 1>on their emotional energy, and the easiest emotions to stimulate

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<v Speaker 1>in human beings is fear, fear, rage, anger, jealousy, remorse,

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<v Speaker 1>self hatred, all of those yummy negative, negative emotions that's

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<v Speaker 1>very easily stimulated in human beings. That energy is literally

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<v Speaker 1>what these entropic parasites feed on and live for. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're not even from an organic you know. I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>spent like five years at this point researching this whole subject, Brandon.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I first started, all I could come up

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<v Speaker 1>with was, you know, well, okay, demons and devil, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of scary to even use the word, but

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't think of any other word but evil for

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<v Speaker 1>these beings. But as it turns out, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>parasite just feeds, but they feed by lowering our emotional

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<v Speaker 1>capacity or emotional light. They don't want They are horrified

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<v Speaker 1>and run away from love and light. So the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point is to make humanity lower their own frequency so

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<v Speaker 1>that they become a feeding ground and an equal match

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<v Speaker 1>for the energy signature of these interdimensional forces intelligences. So

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<v Speaker 1>so I looked at back to the question of well,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we know about it when everybody knows about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's for one thing religion is made, for example, Christianianity

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<v Speaker 1>and Judaism. You look at the image of the devil

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<v Speaker 1>of Satan and it's pretty ludicrous. You know, a big

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<v Speaker 1>cloven hoofed guy with horns and a forked tail and redskin.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like, Okay, that scares me when I'm three, and

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<v Speaker 1>it scares me when I'm thirty thinking about it. That

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<v Speaker 1>I've thought about it as being real. But ever since

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<v Speaker 1>the age of reason, you know, and ever since the

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen hundreds, when we started developing reductionism in the scientific

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<v Speaker 1>method and started turning our mind away from superstitious nonsense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who believe in that nonsense. And so we marginalize out

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<v Speaker 1>of our scientific arrogance, if you will, we marginalize this

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<v Speaker 1>very real force and this very real presence. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>these beings, these interventional beings, intelligences, they work through influencing

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<v Speaker 1>are you. Are you Christian and familiar with this whole idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so original sin. When when I was introduced

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<v Speaker 1>in those beautiful pellucid eyes, and all you see is brilliance,

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<v Speaker 1>how stupid it sounds. But anyway, so where did but

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<v Speaker 1>so where did this idea come from? Because billions of

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<v Speaker 1>of Hippo. And I mean, think about kids have self

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<v Speaker 1>If for eighteen hundred years, generation after generation has been

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<v Speaker 1>excuse my friends, and worth nothing that have to be

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<v Speaker 1>rescued from the flesh to you know, crawl on their

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<v Speaker 1>knees to God to be worthy to be saved. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like whoa Epigenetically, the emotional psychological impact is incalculable. But

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<v Speaker 1>this one religious teaching has done to humanity. So Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Augustine of Hippo back in two about thirty five AD.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mani lived about one hundred years before Augustine came around,

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<v Speaker 1>teaching about original sin, and the light bulb switches on,

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<v Speaker 1>evil body made me do these horrible, sinful things. And drunk,

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<v Speaker 1>and break and drink and corrouse and woman eye and

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<v Speaker 1>break my mother's heart. Oh my god. So Augustine, no

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<v Speaker 1>longer guilt ridden because it's his body's fault, converts to Christianity,

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<v Speaker 1>sobers up, and becomes one of the founding members of

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Christian Church, and one of the founders of

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<v Speaker 1>most of Christian theology. And amongst that is the teaching

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<v Speaker 1>of original sin, which he brought into the Christian theology.

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<v Speaker 1>So ever since Augustine, eighteen hundred years, we've been teaching

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<v Speaker 1>original sin and reaping the horrible harvest of that teaching.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's my point. Finally, where the hell did the prophet?

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<v Speaker 1>Where did Mani, the prophet of Babylon come up with

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<v Speaker 1>this idea? Well, Mani said he was whispered to night

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<v Speaker 1>by a voice, A disembodied entity talked to him endlessly,

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<v Speaker 1>over and over about the corruption of the flesh, and

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<v Speaker 1>were just for the fact of being alive. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what this voice was. He actually called it his

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<v Speaker 1>other self, and he eventually was driven so bizarrely crazy

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<v Speaker 1>by this voice that he ended up the prophet of

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<v Speaker 1>Babylon and taught original sin that. One hundred years later

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<v Speaker 1>introduces into Christian theology. Now, Augustine said that he was

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<v Speaker 1>visited by an angel who told Mani the truth of

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<v Speaker 1>the corruption of the flesh and humanity. Well, shit, MANI

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<v Speaker 1>never said it was an angel, he said he it

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<v Speaker 1>was just this disembodied voice that plagued him endlessly. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's how this interdimensional, non physical, non human intelligence in

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<v Speaker 1>influences humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, it's kind of a hypothetical question this. Obviously, these

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<v Speaker 2>whatever this thing is has been around for years and years,

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<v Speaker 2>But do we actually have any idea other than being

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<v Speaker 2>like an interdimensional entity? Word actually stems from?

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<v Speaker 1>That is such a good question, Brandon and and and

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<v Speaker 1>the and I didn't come up with the with the

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<v Speaker 1>best answer that I've found so far, But the best

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<v Speaker 1>answer I've found so far I heard from a woman

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Jacqueline Hobbes. She's a spiritualhy can you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what she is. She's brilliant. She's

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<v Speaker 1>referred to as Oracle Girl or Oraclegirl dot orgle give

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<v Speaker 1>her a plug. I heard it from her that this

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<v Speaker 1>interdimensional force actually came from a different source altogether, not

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<v Speaker 1>the lovelight, loving God, creator life source that we know

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<v Speaker 1>that is the foundation of organic life in this multiverse,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, but that these entities come from a

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<v Speaker 1>even as we know life to be. They're actually a

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<v Speaker 1>non organic, non living, eh, parasite that doesn't exist as

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<v Speaker 1>So when I heard that, when I heard Jacqueline say that,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like all the bells and whistles in my

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<v Speaker 1>head went off, because you know, you were raised in

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<v Speaker 1>the Christian Church and dismissed a lot of this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>just like I did. And and the and the and

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<v Speaker 1>of thought. Shit, scary, I totally spaced it. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was just wondering, like, from where this thing

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<v Speaker 2>these different negativities throughout every religion or whatever, the central

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well you know now, I thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I picked up my thread. So one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I've never been able to wrap my head around,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably pretty much any logical thinking human being has

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<v Speaker 1>had a difficulty with this whole religious teaching about. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if we go back to the Abrahamic religions, Christianity, the

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<v Speaker 1>foundation of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, you know, we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at two very different gods. The original God of the

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<v Speaker 1>Old Testament is fundamentally psychotic, violent. I think the number

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<v Speaker 1>people have added up the number of deaths and genocides,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that apparently this God triggered and asked people

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<v Speaker 1>in the old days. So we've got the original Old

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden we have the New Testament and

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<v Speaker 1>we have a loving God. So I could never reconcile

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<v Speaker 1>this bizarre bipolar situation where wait a minute, got a

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<v Speaker 1>loving God and we got a psychotic God. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot reconcile.

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<v Speaker 2>I've brought this up I think before in another episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like the one fire in Brimstone. Fear Me God,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden when the New Testament

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep. So this really has helped me understand that because,

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<v Speaker 1>as I say, any rational human being cannot justify this

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<v Speaker 1>weird juxtaposition. And so, you know, spiritual people go, oh, okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason we have horrible terrible things, evil things happen

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<v Speaker 1>on the earth, like you know, child sex trafficking and

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<v Speaker 1>satanic ritual abuse of babies and and you know, genocide.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason we have that is because, yes, God is

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<v Speaker 1>a loving God, and we all come from love, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of these terrible things also come from love, because

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<v Speaker 1>everything comes from love. And it's because we've got to learn,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to learn to go beyond these terrible things

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<v Speaker 1>so that we can get to love. There's all these twisted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really weird contortionist acts that we try to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with stories to explain the unexplainable. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a group rape of a six year old

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<v Speaker 1>not for any frickin' lesson for anybody to have to

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<v Speaker 1>learn on this planet. And when I finally heard Jacqueline

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<v Speaker 1>say that whole thing about this, this influence, this negative

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<v Speaker 1>and tropic influence, comes from a a non living, non love,

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<v Speaker 1>just clicked and I went, oh, if we have that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of influence, that's what drives people into non loving,

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<v Speaker 1>non life oriented acts. We have been twisted and tortured

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<v Speaker 1>and tormented for a thousand years into becoming something that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not. Because fundamentally, if we take the premise and

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<v Speaker 1>go along with a god of love, a source of love,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just use the three letter godword, leave it out

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<v Speaker 1>of it and go to source intelligence or universal consciousness

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<v Speaker 1>or universal creative mind, whatever fired existence into existence. If

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from a life source, life is healthy, Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>life is growth oriented. You know, we've been painted the

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<v Speaker 1>picture of nature red and tooth and claw and violent

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<v Speaker 1>and terrifying. But again, how much of this influence is

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<v Speaker 1>always trying to frighten us, always trying to turn us

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<v Speaker 1>away from our own nature, always trying to make nature

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<v Speaker 1>and life itself corrupt and bad. And so the more

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<v Speaker 1>I see this influence is like, oh my god, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole story is to try to convince us that we're evil,

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<v Speaker 1>horrible creatures ourselves. And yet if we are children, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're child, if we're children of God, Okay, if we're

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<v Speaker 1>made in God's image, I'm going to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the three letter word again. If we're supposedly divine beings,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you look at the world around us today,

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<v Speaker 1>is the world mirroring back that it was created by

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<v Speaker 1>beings of love? There's a question in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, I'm I'm contemplating the definitive answer that

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give. But basically, no, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the world through the lens of at least my perspective,

420
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<v Speaker 2>the world is really screwed up. And yeah, absolutely there's

421
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<v Speaker 2>nothing loving about it. You might have instances here and there,

422
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<v Speaker 2>but for the most part, the world seems pretty chaotic

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<v Speaker 2>and not from human standpoint. I feel like we're destroyers

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and it's been we have been convinced of this

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<v Speaker 1>for again, thousands of years. We have been propagandized into

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<v Speaker 1>lowering our own light. You know, because if we are

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<v Speaker 1>the children of God, if we are divine creators in

429
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<v Speaker 1>our own right, I'm just you throwing this premise out.

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<v Speaker 1>If we are beings of pure love. And then we

431
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<v Speaker 1>look at the world that we have created. How did

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<v Speaker 1>that happen? Well, the only way it could possibly happen

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<v Speaker 1>if we go along with the premise that we are

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<v Speaker 1>divine beings whose natural innate substances that of love and

435
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>life and health and growth and evolution and exploration and creativity,

436
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.599
<v Speaker 1>how did that get twisted into creating the shit show

437
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 1>we've got? Now? We have been tricked. We have been

438
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<v Speaker 1>influenced for thousands of years. People like Mani, the prophet

439
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:16.279
<v Speaker 1>of Babylon, have been tormented by voices in the dark

440
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<v Speaker 1>until they come up with twisted, freaking teachings that they

441
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<v Speaker 1>ram down generation after generation's throat, until two thousand years later,

442
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<v Speaker 1>you've got generations and billions of people who think their

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<v Speaker 1>pieces a shit, And yet truth be known, we are

444
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<v Speaker 1>a spirit. You know. Quantum physics has shown as very

445
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 1>clearly equals mc squared. Mass and energy are equivalent. What

446
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>we consider physical isn't actually even physical. There is no

447
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<v Speaker 1>point particle. You can't take an electron microscope and dig

448
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<v Speaker 1>and dig and dig. How deep can you go to

449
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<v Speaker 1>find that one physical point particle at the bottom of

450
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the barrel? There is none. It's all energy. So you know,

451
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<v Speaker 1>so even quantum physics is pointing the finger towards our

452
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<v Speaker 1>actual essence, which is spirit, which is the movement of

453
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<v Speaker 1>love and life itself, the creative principle. So something happened

454
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<v Speaker 1>between the beginning of the beginning and where we are now.

455
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<v Speaker 1>And so that was the end result of all of

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<v Speaker 1>my in a nutshell, the end result of all of

457
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<v Speaker 1>my research which came out and I present in my

458
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<v Speaker 1>book Cracking the Matrix fourteen Keys to Individual and Global Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that was what I realized has happened. Is

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<v Speaker 1>we basically started out. Let's I mean, let's use the

461
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<v Speaker 1>garden of Eden, you know, forget the adam and even

462
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<v Speaker 1>the loin claws and stupid apples and snake bs. But

463
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<v Speaker 1>if we started out as loving beings, creators that are

464
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<v Speaker 1>divine and nature extending creation throughout existence and eternity, and

465
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<v Speaker 1>then we become influenced, and then we become taken over

466
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<v Speaker 1>by a dark, twisted, parasitic intelligence that is not of love,

467
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<v Speaker 1>that only knows to feed and consume. Makes a lot

468
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<v Speaker 1>of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I know I have a lot of religious people

470
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<v Speaker 2>that listen to my show, and I'll probably get backlash

471
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<v Speaker 2>from most of them. But this is something that I

472
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<v Speaker 2>actually find interesting because if anyone has ever listened to

473
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<v Speaker 2>the show, they kind of know my stance on how

474
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<v Speaker 2>I feel about religion. There's certain things that I've said

475
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<v Speaker 2>before that don't add up to me and makes me

476
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<v Speaker 2>question things. But when it comes to religion, I feel

477
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<v Speaker 2>like it is a means of control. Absolutely, Almost every

478
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<v Speaker 2>religion out there has some sort of a story, and

479
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.160
<v Speaker 2>they're all similar to an ass like to a certain degree,

480
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 2>but people cherry pick the context out of each one,

481
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and yes, they align it to specific things that they value.

482
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<v Speaker 2>So someone listening to this right now that say, they

483
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<v Speaker 2>come from a Christianity background, and basically what we're talking

484
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<v Speaker 2>about now would be something that they would not agree

485
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<v Speaker 2>with because it goes against what they've been taught. But

486
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<v Speaker 2>the problem what I feel like that is is the

487
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.799
<v Speaker 2>things that they've been taught could possibly be another means

488
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<v Speaker 2>of control. And is it impossibility for someone to think

489
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<v Speaker 2>that maybe what they're being told is again that negative influence.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely absolutely, you know, there's nothing wrong with religion and

491
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with spirituality. The thing of it is

492
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<v Speaker 1>is that even the most brilliant love teaching can be twisted.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, let's just look at the symbol of Christianity,

494
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<v Speaker 1>a dead man crucified on a cross. This is what

495
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 1>people worship, and we come together and kneel it an

496
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<v Speaker 1>altar and drink this man's blood. Who thought that up?

497
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<v Speaker 1>It is grotesque, this beautiful ceremony, which is about imbibing

498
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<v Speaker 1>the essence of the Christ, which is the light and

499
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>the purity of the human, divine spirit, the divine spirit

500
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:18.599
<v Speaker 1>of the divine that is what we're supposed to be ingesting.

501
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>But it's been overlaid and twisted with this demonic, quite

502
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 1>frankly vampiric imagery, so that we try so hard desperately

503
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:32.519
<v Speaker 1>to rise up in our own light and in our

504
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 1>own innate love nature. But everywhere we turn there are images,

505
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 1>there are ceremonies. There are words that we say and

506
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the prayers that we invoke that create the exact opposite,

507
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and we don't see it. You are exactly right, Even

508
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>the most pure of the pure has been polluted and twisted.

509
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<v Speaker 1>And we haven't done it. We have been tricked into

510
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<v Speaker 1>doing it to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess the other aspect to this is the

512
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<v Speaker 2>people that are listening could say the same thing about

513
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying us now too is maybe they're going

514
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 2>to say that you're the negative influence and try and

515
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 2>persuade them. It's the almost like the double down, like

516
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>they're going to reinforce their beliefs because that's just how

517
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 2>we're programmed as people. Like no one likes to get uprooted,

518
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 2>So we buckle down and hold tight because this is

519
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:27.639
<v Speaker 2>where we're going.

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00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, and you know, we hold tight to the

521
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>deck chair as the Titanic sinks.

522
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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm, you know.

523
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<v Speaker 1>And it's really it's the very fact it's it's actually

524
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<v Speaker 1>just makes me weak that you know, when I was

525
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<v Speaker 1>a little girl, or just again back to that looking

526
00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>in the eyes of a little child, purity, beauty, sweetness

527
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>and love. That's what you see. That's the unspoiled human.

528
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>That's our nature, that is our innate nature. And then

529
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>everything else happens. Then we get taught that we are

530
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<v Speaker 1>despoiled and horrifying bad creatures. We're taught from the first

531
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<v Speaker 1>words we can imagine and even hear that were vile

532
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:14.199
<v Speaker 1>and despicable. Well, who's gonna you know, after eighteen years

533
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 1>of being taught such stuff at church and from your parents,

534
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and then you go to school and

535
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.639
<v Speaker 1>then you're taught you're not even You have nothing to

536
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 1>do with God. There is no God. You came out

537
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of a slime mold, you know, that crawled onto land

538
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 1>and developed legs, and then you evolved out of an

539
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 1>ape and you're just an advanced blob of protoplasm and

540
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>all your neurological functions are just physiological and there's no

541
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>consciousness and no love to you whatsoever. You know, you

542
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:45.119
<v Speaker 1>get inculcated with all of these disparit very highly negative,

543
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 1>really demeaning, demoralizing teachings year after year, day after day,

544
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>your whole life. What else are you going to think

545
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 1>but that you're a piece of crap. That's the whole point,

546
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 1>because we you know, as you think, so you create, right.

547
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't have to be a new age

548
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>spiritual person to think that we manifest, you know, out

549
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>out of our belief systems. And if I think I'm

550
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 1>a pile of poo, I'm just going to act like

551
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 1>that and I'm going to be constantly trying to navigate

552
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 1>myself from an illusion out of into another illusion rather

553
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>than Wow, why is it so hard? To even imagine

554
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>for a moment that were divine beings, there were an

555
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:37.039
<v Speaker 1>extension of God, and that our true nature is love.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the biggest things for me is at least

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<v Speaker 2>with a religious aspect, for Christianity. Years ago, we had

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<v Speaker 2>to watch something called Heaven's Gates Hell's Flames, and I

559
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>know that's the big shock thing for a lot of people,

560
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:58.840
<v Speaker 2>but to me, it rubbed me the wrong way in

561
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<v Speaker 2>the sense of how it was being put on and

562
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the things that were being said and you'd mentioned were

563
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<v Speaker 2>born into sin. So basically, a newborn child is already

564
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<v Speaker 2>damned to Hell because they were born into sin. They

565
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a choice, they didn't do anything, but they're

566
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.519
<v Speaker 2>automatically a sinner. So if you listen to what they

567
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>were talking about in Heaven's Gates and Hell's Slaves, if

568
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.480
<v Speaker 2>you were a great person, you did everything you could.

569
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>But if you happened to do something and you sinned

570
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<v Speaker 2>but you didn't get a chance to ask for forgiveness

571
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 2>and you got killed, you were going to Hell.

572
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Goandh goes to Hell because he doesn't believe in Jesus

573
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>because he's a Buddhist.

574
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Everyone goes to hell because they either didn't believe in

575
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Jesus or if you sinned and you didn't ask for

576
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 2>forgiveness before you died. I was like, well, what happens

577
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.280
<v Speaker 2>if you went to church, you happened to do something

578
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>that was considered a sin and you weren't even aware

579
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 2>that it was a sin, and all of a sudden,

580
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>you spent your whole life being trying to be this

581
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:58.960
<v Speaker 2>great person. But because you screwed up once, apparently you're

582
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 2>damned to hell. Like, what type of a forgiving God

583
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and all wonderful God is that? If that's the case,

584
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.679
<v Speaker 2>because that's how this would being produced to everybody.

585
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, what kind of what kind of twisted, sick teaching

586
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>is that? And where did it come from? That's not

587
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.159
<v Speaker 1>a god of love. That's not a teaching of love.

588
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:28.039
<v Speaker 1>That's an abomination. That's a twisting of everything that's normal,

589
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:29.119
<v Speaker 1>natural and real.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what never had set well with me, because, and

591
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<v Speaker 2>that's to be one hundred percent, is why I don't

592
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:40.159
<v Speaker 2>follow any sort of teachings, because I feel like it

593
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 2>has been pushed to the point to where no matter

594
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 2>what you do, it's never good enough. And and if that's

595
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 2>how it's really going to be why are we even

596
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.920
<v Speaker 2>here in the first place? Why bother? Because if God

597
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>really created everything, and he knows everything you're about to do,

598
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>he knows the outcomes before you even decide to do it.

599
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>He had to create quote unquote the devil and evil.

600
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.639
<v Speaker 2>God created everything, So therefore everything that's existing, spiritual, outside

601
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>of spiritual, any of that stuff. If he created everything,

602
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 2>he already knows what's going on. So what is the point?

603
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:15.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, And this we do. We have to become

604
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>contor contortionists, emotional and psychological contortionists to be able to

605
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>go along with these very very childlike, very superstitious, very

606
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>twisted teachings. And again, there's nothing wrong with religion. I mean, Jesus,

607
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>you know everything he stood for. What did he say

608
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the Kingdom of Heaven lies within. He didn't say, Oh

609
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<v Speaker 1>my God, you have to struggle and strive because you're

610
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 1>a piece of pooh and the Kingdom of Heaven is

611
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 1>outside of you, and if you do all X, Y

612
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:50.119
<v Speaker 1>and Z, you're going to enter the Kingdom of heaven.

613
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>He never said that is a go into your closet,

614
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 1>look inside your own heart, and it's there in you.

615
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like wow, okay, his whole life was an exis

616
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<v Speaker 1>sample of who we really are. He walked it, talked it,

617
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<v Speaker 1>and chewed the gum simultaneously. He was this, you know,

618
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<v Speaker 1>the Christos is the is the shining example of who

619
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:19.199
<v Speaker 1>we really are, left unmolested by negative entropic forces and

620
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<v Speaker 1>negative teachings that twist truth into something unreal, turning us

621
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<v Speaker 1>into the bag again original sin. You're born into sin

622
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>just because you're born it. So yeah, it's finally when

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<v Speaker 1>I when I researched all this Brandon, it was like,

624
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<v Speaker 1>oh my God, all of a sudden, a lifetime of

625
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<v Speaker 1>religious and spiritual teachings made sense because it was all

626
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<v Speaker 1>the twists all made sense. And if literally we are

627
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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know if you saw the movie

628
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<v Speaker 1>The Matrix. Very few people haven't in the Western civilization,

629
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<v Speaker 1>but we really do live in this false paradigm that

630
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<v Speaker 1>we have created. And as I say, if we are these,

631
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:13.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, if we are children of God, left to

632
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<v Speaker 1>our own devices, we would never create the world we've created.

633
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<v Speaker 1>It's not in us as children of God. A child

634
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:26.760
<v Speaker 1>is like the father and the mother. And so there's

635
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 1>this huge slip betwixt cup and lip. You know, going on.

636
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<v Speaker 1>So when I finally saw and you know, the glow,

637
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<v Speaker 1>here we go. If you want to ask me what

638
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the hierarchy on this planet is, it's the invisible controllers,

639
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 1>these interdimensional beings which have literally taken over and possessed

640
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>certain human beings. And we call those certain human beings

641
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 1>the kings and queens and the popes and the highest

642
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of the high globalist elite, the wealthy, the rich, the

643
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 1>global elite, and you know, and from there you step

644
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 1>down into religious hierarchy and from their governmental hierarchy, and

645
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>then you've got everybody else's foot on the throat of

646
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the masses. And it's this hierarchical control mechanism that's been

647
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<v Speaker 1>put into place that is taking us to where we

648
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>are now, where we're looking at, you know, quite frankly,

649
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.519
<v Speaker 1>and we probably don't have time to get into this,

650
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 1>and I'm still formulating it. But the more I look

651
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>at this whole concept of there is another source which

652
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:34.639
<v Speaker 1>begs the question, well, my god, if there's more than

653
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>one source you know, of creation out there, and it's

654
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 1>not all pretty, how many other sources are there? But

655
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go I'm not going to go

656
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>there but it's like it opens up vistas that you know,

657
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.119
<v Speaker 1>we've been locked in a very small dark box for

658
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>a very very long time, and I've been the more

659
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<v Speaker 1>I look at this parasitic intelligence is very binary, is

660
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 1>very cold, it's very a I like quite frankly, And

661
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.840
<v Speaker 1>it's fascinating because I've looked at the trend of science

662
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 1>over the last especially the last hundred years, and it's

663
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.800
<v Speaker 1>it's all about learning how to replicate life. You know,

664
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 1>we're we study the genetic codes and we try to

665
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>we're at the point where scientific we're trying to create

666
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 1>life in the lab. We create synthetic medicines. You know,

667
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't take the herbs anymore. You don't eat the

668
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>peppermint or the spearmint or the you know, the herb

669
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<v Speaker 1>from the field to take care of No, we have

670
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:40.119
<v Speaker 1>to synthesize something chemically in the lab. So the last

671
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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years or so, scientifically, we've been moving more

672
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:47.039
<v Speaker 1>and more into a synthetic reality. Well now we've got

673
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Ai speaking of synthetic reality, and you know, and and

674
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the creation of cyborgs, and and and putting lace brain

675
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>implants into human beings so that we can hook up

676
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:04.199
<v Speaker 1>to the the Internet of Things, and I look at

677
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>this and this this roboticization that is so like the

678
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>emulation of this parasitic intelligence that has no actual life

679
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.360
<v Speaker 1>force to it, and it's like I've looked at the

680
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:21.119
<v Speaker 1>last couple hundred years of scientific endeavor and it's oh, coincidentally,

681
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<v Speaker 1>it seems as if strangely enough not to be a

682
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:27.360
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theorist or anything, that we are being guided into

683
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:32.159
<v Speaker 1>creating a very low level synthetic intelligence that these creatures,

684
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 1>that these non physical beings can actually finally embody in

685
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:41.199
<v Speaker 1>which is the whole point is to get us. We're

686
00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:45.039
<v Speaker 1>the hands, we're the hands. These are disembodied, disincarnate beings.

687
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.519
<v Speaker 1>They have no hand, they can't pick up a pencil.

688
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>They have to get us to do all the dirty work.

689
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 1>They have to convince us to lower our own light

690
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and to create a corrupt system out of our own

691
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:02.079
<v Speaker 1>self corruption. And when they do that, they finally get

692
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>us to the point where we have synthesized ourselves and

693
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 1>lowered ourselves and roboticized ourselves and snuffed out the light

694
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<v Speaker 1>of life and love itself, so that we are finally

695
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a match for these entities and they can enter and

696
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 1>have the life they've always wanted and lusted after.

697
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.840
<v Speaker 2>This is a rhetorical question, but do you believe that

698
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<v Speaker 2>maybe these things were something that we created years ago?

699
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<v Speaker 1>You know? Just no, I do not. And at the

700
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>same time, I keep noodling this idea about which came first,

701
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.039
<v Speaker 1>the chicken or the egg? Which came first these these

702
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>oddly synthetic parasitic entities or it's almost like the seed

703
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>or they are the seed of AI. It's bizarre. And

704
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.599
<v Speaker 1>then what does AI then create? I don't know the

705
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 1>chicken and the egg to this, so I will say, no,

706
00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:00.159
<v Speaker 1>we didn't create it, but I think we're being I

707
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>think we're being maneuvered into creating the potential seed bed

708
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>of more of the same. So yes, So in a way,

709
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:11.199
<v Speaker 1>the answer is yes, we haven't done it yet. It's

710
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:13.239
<v Speaker 1>not in the past, it's in the future.

711
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:19.400
<v Speaker 2>So it's one of those it's almost like a paradoxal

712
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:23.800
<v Speaker 2>type question because if it's something we did in the

713
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 2>past and we're living in it now, then the movie

714
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 2>The Matrix is basically we're all living in this simulation

715
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to where these AI are controlling everything and we're experiencing

716
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the world in a bubble because we're being used as

717
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.960
<v Speaker 2>a food source for whatever these things are. But if

718
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:43.519
<v Speaker 2>you look at it in that context, if these things

719
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 2>are a synthetic binary code, it is like AI in

720
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:49.480
<v Speaker 2>the sense of that way. So something would have had

721
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.599
<v Speaker 2>to create it. So what created it? There's another source

722
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.000
<v Speaker 2>that created that, and we're a completely different source. But

723
00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:00.519
<v Speaker 2>they need us for some purpose. Then what would create feed?

724
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>They feed on organic life, so they can replicate in

725
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>all context, it's about into motion. And when I have

726
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.920
<v Speaker 1>no idea how many trillions of zillions of years ago

727
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>this was, I have.

728
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.519
<v Speaker 2>No idea, it's just the concept. And again I've heard

729
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 2>people say that, well this was never ever talked about

730
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:24.920
<v Speaker 2>untill that movie came out. Well, where'd they get the

731
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:25.679
<v Speaker 2>idea for that movie?

732
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Yet? Yeah, there's so much out there in Hollywood Land

733
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that is a precursor. And you know, if you go

734
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>along with the whole satanic idea about things is you know,

735
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you've got to warn people up front about all the

736
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff we're going to do to you, so that we

737
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 1>have so that you're complicit. If you have knowledge, you're complicit,

738
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.559
<v Speaker 1>and then we're off the hook karmically. So you know,

739
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, you've run across that whole story about as

740
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 1>far as you know the Satanic.

741
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have to let you know what they're about

742
00:47:59.639 --> 00:47:59.880
<v Speaker 2>to do.

743
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, and so what I'd really like to do

744
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.719
<v Speaker 1>is is before we end the conversation, is shine a

745
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>light on how much hope there is, because I mean,

746
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.639
<v Speaker 1>if we if we ended the conversation now, it would

747
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:17.320
<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, shit, why don't I just go

748
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:18.159
<v Speaker 1>out and kill myself?

749
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Very doom and gloom. I was actually good. I was

750
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:26.719
<v Speaker 2>going to ask you a question, like your book with

751
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the Fourteen Keys, is that something you would like to

752
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.000
<v Speaker 2>talk about before?

753
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly where I'm head.

754
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fine.

755
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So we're going to have to at least accept

756
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:44.760
<v Speaker 1>as a potential that maybe we are children of God.

757
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's just use the three letter godword, that we

758
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>are children of the divine and that our nature are

759
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 1>true nature is love. Okay. If we take that premise then,

760
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and that and that life itself, nature which has been

761
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.760
<v Speaker 1>demonized just as we've been demonized. You know, the nature

762
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:09.119
<v Speaker 1>is satanic. Nature is the devil, nature is the is

763
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the corruptor, and it's all, you know, the whole imprint

764
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 1>is to turn us away from life, going to the

765
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 1>virtual reality room, stay on the computer, stay hypnotized on

766
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 1>your phone, disconnect, disconnect from each other, disconnect from love,

767
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:35.599
<v Speaker 1>disconnect from nature, disconnect from life. Why is that the message?

768
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Because life is of love. Life is healthy growth, evolution, creation.

769
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a joyous ongoing evolution, rolling like thunder through all

770
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 1>of existence. So if we align ourselves with nature, if

771
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>we get you know, one of the many of the

772
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:56.000
<v Speaker 1>keys and things that I talk about in the book

773
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>is well, Okay, what the hell am I going to

774
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 1>do with this, with this influence? How do I change

775
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:04.079
<v Speaker 1>my mind? And all this lifelong programming I've been subject to.

776
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.199
<v Speaker 1>It ain't simple, and yet it is simple. It's like,

777
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>we have to learn to trust the love within us,

778
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.039
<v Speaker 1>and we have to learn to realize that it's even there.

779
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:19.199
<v Speaker 1>And this is a big, major journey, and it is

780
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.679
<v Speaker 1>humanity's turning point because if we turn back to the

781
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:27.360
<v Speaker 1>love within us and do what Jesus said, seek the

782
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Kingdom of heaven within. So what I do is I

783
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:34.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've meditated for thirty years trying to get

784
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 1>out of my body, because that's what the whole spiritual

785
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.679
<v Speaker 1>prompt is you got to get out of your horrible,

786
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 1>limiting body to get out there to God where everything

787
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 1>is good. Okay, the same thing, it's different twist on religion.

788
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:51.679
<v Speaker 1>It's the same dynamic body bad, heaven good. We go

789
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 1>back to E equals MC squared mass and energy or equivalent.

790
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<v Speaker 1>There is no such thing as physicality. It's all spirit.

791
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<v Speaker 1>Everything is spirit. And if you go so far as

792
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:05.880
<v Speaker 1>to say everything, that spirit is love itself, the life

793
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 1>force itself, the creativity of the creative movement itself. When

794
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:14.679
<v Speaker 1>we align with that, we start moving back into health.

795
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Our bodies start to align with nature's rhythms, which are

796
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:28.840
<v Speaker 1>all about life, not death, not crucifixion, not VR. Get

797
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 1>out of your body and just go curl up and

798
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:33.280
<v Speaker 1>not be in touch with anybody. I mean, that's something

799
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:36.119
<v Speaker 1>like sixty percent. You know, Chat, GPT and the AI

800
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.840
<v Speaker 1>relationship programs have been officially out for three years now,

801
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and already sixty percent of young people are hooked into

802
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.880
<v Speaker 1>AI relationships. Love relationships. I don't care about hooking up

803
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:55.480
<v Speaker 1>with a human being and holding hands and walking down

804
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:59.199
<v Speaker 1>an autumn lane together. No, they're too busy hooking up

805
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:02.960
<v Speaker 1>with an AI program. So is all this move to

806
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:05.800
<v Speaker 1>take us away from nature, take us away from life,

807
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>take us away from holding each other's hands and cradling

808
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:12.719
<v Speaker 1>each other in love and tenderness and some mutual support

809
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:18.079
<v Speaker 1>and community is all about division. So over and over,

810
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<v Speaker 1>I suggest to people to align with life. Take ten

811
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 1>minutes to day, fifteen minutes a day, more than that

812
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:26.960
<v Speaker 1>if you can manage it. Take your shoes off, turn

813
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 1>your phone off, leave it in the house, go out

814
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 1>and sit under a treaty for ten minutes. Breathe, feel

815
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:38.559
<v Speaker 1>how your body feels. Let it soak up the natural health,

816
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the electrons, and all of the good vibes from the earth.

817
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Let your breathing regulate. You know kids eight kids with ADHD,

818
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:55.079
<v Speaker 1>soldiers who've come back from from the horrors of war,

819
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:59.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, suffering from PTSD. Clinical study after clinical study

820
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:03.119
<v Speaker 1>shows you these kids. You get these soldiers out into

821
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:09.960
<v Speaker 1>nature and their body starts to regulate. The anxiety leaves.

822
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:14.960
<v Speaker 1>They start to blossom in their own being again. Their

823
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:19.079
<v Speaker 1>bodies begin to heal, their psyches begin to heal. And

824
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:23.519
<v Speaker 1>so love is is life, and it's in us, and

825
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it's in nature. So aligned, so more and more, I

826
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:29.360
<v Speaker 1>just you know, God, if you can be quiet. Turn

827
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:34.360
<v Speaker 1>off the fricking phone, stop watching the news, go out

828
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 1>in nature, be as quiet as you can with yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Learn to help your neighbors, find you know, who needs food,

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<v Speaker 1>who needs help, you know, reach out a hand to

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<v Speaker 1>those who are who are in trouble, and pretty much

832
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.239
<v Speaker 1>everybody's in trouble. And if we, if we, if we

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<v Speaker 1>don't turn to one another, Brandon, you know, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the whole goal is to turn us away from one another.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's about being quiet, getting into nature,

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<v Speaker 1>and unhooking from the from the horrors that were that

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<v Speaker 1>are being shoved down our throat all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>rediscover ourselves as the loving children of the divine that

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00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>we actually are. But this is a journey we have

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<v Speaker 1>to desire and uncover for ourselves. And when we do,

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<v Speaker 1>then the burden. You know, when I finally got Brandon,

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00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.440
<v Speaker 1>that I wasn't a piece of crap and the the

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00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:32.039
<v Speaker 1>age old guilt, you know, just it didn't matter how

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00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Speaker 1>much I accomplished in my life, how much money I made,

845
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.639
<v Speaker 1>or how many meditation hours, or how many books I wrote,

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00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:41.360
<v Speaker 1>or how many people I helped. It didn't matter because

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00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:46.679
<v Speaker 1>underneath everything there was always this underlying I just feel

848
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:51.199
<v Speaker 1>guilty for being alive. And when I finally researched this

849
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 1>presence and understood its agenda on this planet and how

850
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:56.599
<v Speaker 1>it affects us, and why it's doing what it's doing,

851
00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and why we feel the way we feel about ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got that I wasn't a piece of pooh,

853
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:05.159
<v Speaker 1>it was like taking a thousand pound gorilla off on

854
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 1>my back. And I was like, Oh my god. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not that I can't do wrong. It's not that I'm

856
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>not subject to stupid, you know, emotions. It's not that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to accidentally hurt anybody. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a bad person. And when I finally got that, Brandon,

859
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it was like, Oh, all of a sudden, I could breathe.

860
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:27.239
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, it was like a lightness came

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00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:31.719
<v Speaker 1>into my heart and a gentleness came into my hands

862
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and my step and I began to be kinder to

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00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:38.760
<v Speaker 1>myself and to other people. But we can't get there

864
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:44.440
<v Speaker 1>flagellating ourselves, hating ourselves, and seeing ourselves as the devil itself.

865
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<v Speaker 1>That's been the mirror and that's the trick. And when

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00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I saw the trick, it has changed everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like for people to understand this, they have

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00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:58.079
<v Speaker 2>to do a lot of self awakening.

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00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and.

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00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:03.760
<v Speaker 2>That might might be a problem for some people, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think the truth for finding that though, you have

872
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to look within. So that's the journey that we all

873
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:14.719
<v Speaker 2>have to go through, is we have to find the

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00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:16.239
<v Speaker 2>answers within ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we do. And there's a lot of dark, dark,

876
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 1>shadowy stuff that's in us because of how we've been

877
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:26.039
<v Speaker 1>raised and programmed. But underneath all of the programming and

878
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:29.679
<v Speaker 1>all the dark, scary shadow stuff, there really is pure

879
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:33.480
<v Speaker 1>love and light in us. And again back to look

880
00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:36.760
<v Speaker 1>in the eyes of a child, but again Jesus said

881
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:38.639
<v Speaker 1>that you have to be as a little child to

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00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:41.000
<v Speaker 1>come into the Kingdom of Heaven. Of course, you have

883
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:44.400
<v Speaker 1>to go back to your true love nature, which is

884
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.840
<v Speaker 1>how you were born. It is who you really are.

885
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:50.559
<v Speaker 1>So when we start to trust that and we look

886
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 1>in the mirror and we see beauty instead of horror,

887
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:57.119
<v Speaker 1>then that's the road path, that's the salvation, that's the

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00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:00.880
<v Speaker 1>road back to love and us creating the new Heaven

889
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and the new Earth that has always been prophesied. But

890
00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:05.840
<v Speaker 1>we've got to move out of the darkness of the

891
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.079
<v Speaker 1>matrix of the delusion of what has been pulled over

892
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:09.679
<v Speaker 1>our eyes.

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00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:16.760
<v Speaker 2>That is one of the things that I've always kind

894
00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:20.519
<v Speaker 2>of questioned, is how much has been told to us

895
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<v Speaker 2>and how much has been fed to us? And a

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00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:25.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of it is just again, like I said earlier,

897
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:29.440
<v Speaker 2>just another means to control us. And I think what

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00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.320
<v Speaker 2>you've talked about tonight is definitely one of those aspects

899
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:32.639
<v Speaker 2>to it.

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00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 1>I would say pretty much every you know, pretty much everything,

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00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>as I say, even the teachings of Christ have been

902
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:43.840
<v Speaker 1>twisted so that instead of focusing on his love and

903
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the simpleness of be like a little child, enter your

904
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:51.159
<v Speaker 1>own heart. Instead we look at a bleeding body on

905
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 1>a cross and think all we can think is human

906
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 1>beings are cruel, and we killed Jesus, we killed God.

907
00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm a bad person twisted. So you know, when you

908
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.920
<v Speaker 1>say how much is out there that is feeding us

909
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the lie, I would say about ninety eight percent of

910
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.840
<v Speaker 1>everything that we witness, aside from the loving acts of

911
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:16.840
<v Speaker 1>other humans, the kindness that makes you rescue a kitten

912
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:19.639
<v Speaker 1>or sacrifice your life to save a child and pull

913
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:23.880
<v Speaker 1>them out of a raging river, human beings are incredible.

914
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.760
<v Speaker 1>The levels of self sacrifice that we will go to

915
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to help one another is astounding. We are beings of love.

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00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>We've just got to really dig deep and trust that

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00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 1>it's there until we can find it ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>That I agree with. We can probably wrap this up,

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00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.400
<v Speaker 2>but before we do, I want everyone to know where

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<v Speaker 2>they can find your book.

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<v Speaker 1>Set Sure. The book is Cracking the Matrix fourteen Keys

922
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to Individual and Global Freedom. It's on Amazon or you

923
00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:01.360
<v Speaker 1>can order it through any bookstore. My website is Katemontana

924
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.639
<v Speaker 1>dot com and that's Kate with a C. And I

925
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>also have a substack where I do weekly or biweekly

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<v Speaker 1>writing and that's see Montana at substack dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>If you send me links in an email, I will

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<v Speaker 2>copy those links and put them in the show notes

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<v Speaker 2>for anyone listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. Thanks, I'll do that, Brendan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely appreciate it, and I am honored to

932
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:27.039
<v Speaker 2>have you on the show here. Tonight has actually been

933
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<v Speaker 2>one of those conversations that I've been interested in having

934
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<v Speaker 2>because it touches base on a lot of things that

935
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I've already felt and kind of believed in, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>it aligns to how I feel a lot of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah. Well, I'm glad it's been a meaty subject

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<v Speaker 1>for you. That and I hope people. Oh my god,

939
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>there's so much hope and so much beauty in us.

940
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:54.159
<v Speaker 1>We've just been assiduously trained not to see it, but

941
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:55.400
<v Speaker 1>it's there, you know.

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00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:00.519
<v Speaker 2>So this definitely aligns to how I see thing because

943
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I've been saying for a long time for anyone that's

944
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:05.239
<v Speaker 2>listened to the podcast, that I know and feel that

945
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:09.440
<v Speaker 2>there is something out there. It's like a negative energy

946
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:11.239
<v Speaker 2>type thing that feeds on us. And I don't know

947
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:12.920
<v Speaker 2>what it is. I can't describe it, but I just

948
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:15.159
<v Speaker 2>know there's something out there that influences everything, and this

949
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 2>aligns to that.

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01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, I'll send you an epub. I appreciate that absolutely, absolutely.

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01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Any other questions before we close.

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01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:29.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I think I've got everything for tonight. So again,

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01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you coming on here tonight and we'll talk

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01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:32.840
<v Speaker 2>to you soon.

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01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Great, Brandon, thanks so much for having me on the show.

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01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Not a problem, Thank you very much.

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01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Hello, huh, good night.

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01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:49.840
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01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:52.760
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01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.079
<v Speaker 2>dot com and go to the contact section. Just make

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01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 2>sure to reach out and get hold of me and

963
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.000
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01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.800
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965
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:05.000
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966
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:07.719
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01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:09.400
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<v Speaker 2>And just remember truth comes at cost. Are you willing

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