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Speaker 1: Again, thanks so much for your support, Sandy. Now, from

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March twentieth, nineteen fifty two, here is the Big Border.

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Speaker 3: The story you were about to hear is true. The

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names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a

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detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. Two convicts escape

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from the state penitentiary. They're heading for your city. They're armed,

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they boasted, they won't be taken alive. Your job get them.

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Speaker 4: Dragnet the document a drama of an actual crime. For

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the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles

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Police Department, you will travel step by step on the

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side of the law through an actual case transcribed from

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official police violence. From beginning to end, from crime to punishment,

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Dragnet is the story of your police force in action.

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Speaker 5: It was Wednesday, October sixth, that was cloudy in Los Angeles.

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We were working a day watch out of robbery detail.

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My partner's said, Jacob's the boss's up and didyon. My

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name is Friday. We're on the way out from the

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office and it was two forty pm when we got

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to Kesterton Boulevard, number.

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Speaker 6: Twelve fifty six. Sounds like she's having a party.

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Speaker 2: Huh yeah, try it again. Maybe they can't hear it. Yes,

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police officers, ma'am you Ruth Thompson.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's right. What is it.

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Speaker 5: My name's Friday. This is my partner, Sergeant Jacob Central Robbery.

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We'd like to talk you a few minutes if we could.

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Speaker 8: Well, I have a.

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Speaker 7: Party going on right now, if you my friends were over,

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what'd you want?

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Speaker 6: Sergeant brought Andy Poum. Miss Thompson, understand you know him.

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Speaker 7: I didn't know him, Yes, I haven't seen him for

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a long time, three or four years.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, mind if we ask a few questions about him.

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It won't take long.

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Speaker 7: Hi, come in, please, thank you.

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Speaker 2: We're sorry to disturb you, ma'm it's pretty important that

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we wouldn't hold you up.

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Speaker 7: It's all right down the hall here. We can talk

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in the kitchen if you don't mind. It's my girlfriend's

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birthday today, though, I'd be nice to have a little party.

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Speaker 8: Four.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I see chair there if you like, Oh here,

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let me wipe it offle you spuild a drink on it.

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Probably Dan was born.

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Speaker 6: I suppose you know about Andy Palm, Miss Thompson. What

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happened this morning? What's that about Andy Powell? You heard

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what happened this morning?

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Speaker 7: Just what I read in the morning paper. They said

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he broke out of Sam Quentin, another man with him.

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It's true, then he did break out.

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Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am, that's the information we have. There's an all

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points bulleting out on him.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't want to get involved in it. It's

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not my business. Andy doesn't mean anything to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, at the time he was set up, you were

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engaged to Powell.

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Speaker 6: Is that right?

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Speaker 7: Yes, But that was before he got into trouble, before

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he went to San Quentin. I saw him after the trial.

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I told him how I felt about it.

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Speaker 6: I told him wasn't any use an He called it off, that.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't much else to do. It was robbery five

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years to life. It wasn't the first time either. Andy

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knew it would be a long time, so die, Really

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I had to tell him I have to.

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Speaker 2: Call it off.

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Speaker 5: We understand you were on Powell's correspondence list while I

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was up at Quinton.

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Speaker 6: He wrote to him, did you yes?

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Speaker 7: The first couple of months we haven't written lately though.

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It wasn't any point to it, no point at all.

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Speaker 5: Well, when was the last time you heard from Paul

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Miss Thompson last time you wrote to him?

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Speaker 7: Oh, eight or ten months least.

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Speaker 8: That.

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Speaker 7: As I say, there wasn't much sense in going on.

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Andy knew he was in there for a long time.

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He couldn't expect me to wait all that time. Matter

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of fact, he said he didn't expect it.

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Speaker 6: He told me that you've been up to visit Paul recently,

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Miss Thompson.

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Speaker 7: No, No, I haven't well, and you.

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Speaker 2: Haven't seen him since he went up to Quentin. You'll

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swear to that.

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Speaker 7: Why do I have to swear to what I already

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told you? Andy doesn't mean anything to me? Didn't make sense,

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it's all over. I'm not even a relative. Why do

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I have to swear to anything?

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Speaker 6: You haven't seen Paul since he went up to Quintin

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that right, Miss Thompson? Is that right?

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Speaker 7: What if I saw him? If I didn't see him,

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what difference does it make? It's none of my business?

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Speaker 6: Or did you say, Miss Thompson, what difference.

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Speaker 7: Does it make? I don't have anything to do with him.

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He doesn't mean anything to me.

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Speaker 2: I told you, did you see.

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Speaker 7: Him this morning?

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Speaker 2: When?

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Speaker 7: Late this morning about ten thirty was no? Another man

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was with you?

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Speaker 6: Who was the other man? You recognized him?

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Speaker 7: Bert Selby. That's the way he introduced to me. He

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didn't try to hide it. Some fellow broke out of

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jail with.

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Speaker 2: What they want?

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Speaker 7: Why were they here, clothes, money, looked like the devil,

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both of them terrible.

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Speaker 2: What'd you give them?

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Speaker 7: They asked for? I'm not that silly. Didn't trust me

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anymore and they trust you. And he had a knife.

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I tried to tell him I didn't have any money.

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He didn't believe me, came at me with that knife.

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Speaker 2: I gave the.

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Speaker 7: Money that much, about seventeen eighteen dollars, some loose change.

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The emptied my purse, took it off anything else, closed

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a couple of suits of my father's. He died last year.

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They took his gun too. Never thought Andy b that way.

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It was terrible.

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Speaker 6: What kind of a gun wasn't miss Thompson.

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Speaker 7: Quote revolver thirty eight. I think they took that and

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closed the money. It's about ten thirty this morning, Malcolm.

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Speaker 5: He didn't report that. You say you knew about the escape.

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You know they were wanted, didn't you?

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Speaker 7: Why should I? They warned me about it. They threatened me,

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said they'd come back and get me if I told

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the police. Look, I don't want to get mixed up

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in this. I'm engaged on a nice fella. Now we

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want to get married. I don't want to get mixed

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up in this. Andy Powell's nothing to me.

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Speaker 6: Do you watch the two men when they left the

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house here and you noticed that they drove off my car?

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Speaker 7: No, I didn't. I just shut the door and prayed.

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I was rid of him. Took my money, food, my

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dad's clothes. Don't make it any tougher. Huh, Please, that's.

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Speaker 2: Not a question of that man. We have to find him.

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We're going to need all the cooperation we can get.

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Speaker 7: I told you everything I could. Honestly, he said they'd

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come back and kill me if I even talked to you.

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I can't do any more. I sure hope you don't

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find him.

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Speaker 6: How's that?

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Speaker 7: When Andy went out the door. It's the last thing

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he said. He said, if the cops ever found him,

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there was going to be a fight. Terrible look on

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his face. No, he said he'd never take him alive.

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Speaker 5: The APB had come in a few minutes before eight

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o'clock that morning, was from the Warden's office San Quentin.

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The two suspects had been assigned to an early morning

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work detail at the penitentiary, and they were first reported

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missing at the seven am count. Number one suspect was

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Andrew A. Powell, WMA twenty nine years, five nine, one

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hundred and seventy five pounds, brown hair, blue eyes, tan complexion.

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Suspect number two, Bertram O Selby, WMA, thirty one years,

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five foot eleven, one hundred and sixty pounds, blonde hair,

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gray eyes, tan complexion. Both of them had long criminal records.

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Both of them had been serving time for armed robbery.

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They'd used guns before. We figured if they had to,

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they'd use them again. Before we left, Powell's ex girlfriend,

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Ruth Thompson, we called the office and arranged for a

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twenty four hour stakeout on her home in case the

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escape primer's return. We also made arrangements for a stake

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out at the downtown restaurant where she was employed his cashier.

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We passed along the information which the Thompson girl had

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given us, and a broadcast and an APB was gotten

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out on the suspects. Four h five pm, ED and

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I continued making the rounds of all unknown friends and

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associates of the escape prisoners. We failed to come up

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with any more leads. Five point fifty pm we went

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back to the City.

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Speaker 6: Hall, clouding up again. Huh over there in the east.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, papers has rained tonight and tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: We can sure use it my cats.

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Speaker 2: What's the matter?

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Speaker 6: I haven't had a chance to get the shoemakers yet. Yeah,

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there pulling my shoe and meaning you get them half

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sole to keep forgetting. Yeah, and don't tell me that's

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the only pair of shoes you got. Oh, I've got

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another pair at home and not comfortable though and not

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broken in. It's in trouble with job. What do you

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mean shoes? You get a new pair of start wearing

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them around. It happens every time. No, sooner you get

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the tops broken in, the soldier were Out's a vicious circle. Yeah,

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all right? Word you know, hi, Jess?

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Speaker 2: Anything in the book for us?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't think so I'll check it.

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How do you to make out any well?

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Speaker 2: Not too bad, Jess.

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Speaker 5: We know Poll and Selby were in town this morning.

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Good chances still here? Any kickback on that last all

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points we got.

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Speaker 6: Out nothing so far.

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Speaker 9: Gaffney and rickets are running down a couple of possibles

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right now. One of them might pan out nothing on

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the book show. We're clear just saying it. On this

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Powell and Selby thing, got a couple of possibles were

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checking on. Both calls came in the last hour. One

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was a hold of the Olympic near Vermont bun shop.

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There two men pull it off, slugged the owner, took clothes, money,

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twelve gage, shotgun.

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Speaker 2: I'll about descriptions on them in and it seemed to

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be fairly close.

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Speaker 9: When I got over the phone, Gaffney and Rickitts are

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out talking to the victim. They took mugs of Powell

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and Selby along waiting for their callback.

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Speaker 6: Now said you had two calls? What was the other one?

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Two eleven?

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Speaker 9: The slugging out on Hollywood Boulevard just about Western A

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couple of thieves knocked over a dry goods store. Some

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take clothes and money. Descriptions are pretty close there too,

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Hollywood divisions covering waiting for their callback.

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Speaker 6: Do you any want to smoke?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Thanks, yeah, thanks. Thompson girl is the only one who

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had anything. Huh. None of the others could help you out. Yeah,

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it's about size of it. Apparently Paul doesn't have too

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many connections in town. Selby has even less. I'm more

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a dozen names on that list. Were they Joe friends,

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relatives or.

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Speaker 2: An even dozen?

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Speaker 5: A couple of bars Powell was known to hang out

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when he was in town. Check them out too.

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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 9: I sure made a bee line here after they broke Quinton.

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It's a good five hundred miles stretch. They don't have

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the connections here to help them, then, what's the big attraction?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I could have some help lined up, we don't know about.

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Somebody'd hide them out, keep them in groceries for a

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while as possible.

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Speaker 5: They're making a run for one of the border towns

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to j Wanta, MEXICALI maybe poll figured on more help

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from the Thompson Girl. Clothes and money enough to get

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him and sell me over in New Mexico.

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Speaker 6: Huh, she said, all I got was seventeen dollars. I

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had to cut Connors to make none that.

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Speaker 8: Robbery.

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Speaker 6: Gonzalez, Oh yeah, Jack, are you sure? Okay? Fine? Thanks? Bye,

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We got Jack Recketts.

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Speaker 9: He and Gaffney just finished talking to the owner of

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the pawn shot that was held up at one on

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Olympic Fill. They gave him a handful of mugshots check

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he tabbed to them. Paul and Shelby.

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Speaker 5: Six thirty PM A supplementary broadcast and an APB was

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gotten out on the two suspects, and the Record Bureau's

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photocopyroom turned out two thousand copies of Powell's and Selby's

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mug shot for distribution. At nine PM, a theater on

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Western Avenue was robbed of one hundred and ninety two dollars.

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Powell and Selby were again identified as the hold up

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men the robbery victim. The manager of the theater said

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that both men were armed, one with a thirty eight revolver,

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the other with a sawed off shotgun. Neither the manager

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nor the two witnesses were able to tell us how

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the thieves got away from the scene of the crime,

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if they were on foot or if they had a car.

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Eleven twenty pm, a hot shot call came through on

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a hold up at a liquor store and delicatessen down

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on South Central Avenue. For the third time that night,

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Poull and Selby were identified from their mugshots as the

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hold up men. They'd used the same weapons, the revolver

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that they'd taken from the Thompson Girls home and the

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shotgun that they picked up in the robbery of the

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Olympic Boulevard pawn shop.

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Speaker 2: Again, the victims were unable to.

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Speaker 5: Tell us how the suspects got away, whether on foot

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or by car. Midnight one am, there were still no

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replies to supplementary broadcasts and bullets which had been gotten out.

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One twenty five am, another hot shot call came through,

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this time on a hold up and a slugging at

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the twenty fifty Room, a small night club on West

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ninth Street. Ed and I handled the call for the

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fourth time. The bandits were identified as Powell and Selby,

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and for the fourth time they'd made good their escape.

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We interviewed the manager of the twenty fifty Room at

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Hermann Saunders.

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Speaker 6: Quite a few people in here at the time the

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hold up, mister Saunders.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, good for Thursday night, thirty or forty anyway, I

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sure left in a hurry. This is the second time

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this year we've been knocked over. Insurance company isn't going

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to like it too much.

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Speaker 2: How much money did they take all together?

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Speaker 9: You know, little less than six hundred of the cash register,

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mostly currency, some rolls of dives and quarters. Got another

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one hundred and a half for my wallet about it.

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They didn't take anything from the customers.

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Speaker 5: You're sure about that identification now, there's no chance of

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a mistake there.

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Speaker 9: I'm positive I know Andy Paul anywhere. I should know him,

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Like I told you, worked for me a.

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Speaker 6: Year and a half.

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Speaker 9: I was here at twenty fifty. Yeah, he worked behind

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the bar. Good Man too. I don't get it at all.

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You mean when I went bad, Well, yeah that too.

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What I mean is, if you're going to hold up

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a place, you don't pick a joint where everybody knows you.

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I spotted any soon as I saw him at the bar,

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so a couple of the waiters.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't wearing any kind of a mask. He didn't

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make any attempt to disguise himself.

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Speaker 9: No stood their biggest life. Him and this other fella

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didn't waste any time either. I pulled the guns, line

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up everybody in the place and stood him against that

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wall over there, real wild West style took over the

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whole place. That could real wild Andy and this other

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fellow must be crazy. Nobody was hurt, didn't slug anyway.

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I slapped a few of the customers around. I thought

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for a while they were really going to get rough.

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Adis lined up against the wall, Andy was acting tough,

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had this knife with him. Good four inch blade, went

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right down the line, jabbing people with they're threatening him,

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must be out of his mind.

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Speaker 2: And you say he didn't take any money from the customers, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 9: They worked it pretty fast, emptied the cash registered in

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my wallet, then they beat it.

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Speaker 6: Never so glad to see anybody go in my life life?

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Speaker 2: Well how'd they get away?

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Speaker 9: Do you have any idea on that old guy who

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sells papers down the corner? He says he thinks he

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saw a car pull away right after the stick up

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said it was a blue sedan. Don't know much stock

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you can put in at the old man's eyes on

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what they used to be.

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Speaker 6: Do you know Paul pretty well when he was working here,

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mister Saunders? I mean, do you know any of his

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friends people used to run with?

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Speaker 9: No, I didn't know him that well. He worked for me,

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that's all. I still have his old address, the place

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he was living.

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Speaker 6: When he worked for me.

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Speaker 9: I can get it if you want, Yeah, if you would, please, sure,

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No trouble. I just don't get it. Don't get it

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at all. Of all the joints in time he could

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have held up. He had a pick mine, the one

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place he'd be recognized. Do you think he'd have better

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sense when.

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Speaker 6: You'd think so.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd ever hire a guy's dumb as that. Paul

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holding up the place he worked for. Biggest mistake he

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ever made.

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Speaker 5: No, he made a bigger one yesterday. Yeah, what was

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that when he broke prison two five am. Further investigation

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at the scene of the latest hold up failed to

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turn up any new leads. While Ed and I checked

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on Powell's former address, which we'd gotten from the owner

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of the twenty to fifty room, Gonzales, Ricketts, and Gaffney

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continued checking the immediate neighborhood. In addition, the special detail

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from Metro Division was sent in to cover the entire area.

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The suspect's former address turned out to be a rooming

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house up on West Temple Street. The landlady remembered Andy Powell,

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but she had no forwarding address on him, and she

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could tell us nothing about his former friends and associates.

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We checked back with Gonzales, rickettson Gaffney, and they told

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us that besides the old newspaper vendor, the counterman at

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the coffee shop near the twenty fifty room, it also

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spotted a blue sedan leaving the vicinity of the nightclub.

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Shortly after the hold up. He was able to give

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him the make, the model and a partial license number.

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A supplementary all points had been gotten out on it

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immediately and the information relayed to DMV and Auto Theft detail.

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Speaker 2: Three.

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Speaker 5: Ten am ed and I completed our assignment in the

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investigation and went back to the office to check for

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instructions from Captain Dideon.

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Speaker 6: Can't sy how we'd be much used out on the

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street the way things stand out, can you No? I

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know everything's covered. I can think of supplementary All points

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is out detail from Metro's work in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: What's that?

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Speaker 5: Unless Andy Powell going back to that place he used

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to work and holding it up. That doesn't make any

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sense at all, does it.

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Speaker 6: That's for sure. Must have known somebody was going to

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recognize him. Couldn't have been a coincidence.

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Speaker 5: That was only one way I can figure it. They

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don't care, either one of them. They got their money,

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now a car, they both got guns. They're out to

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go as far as they can.

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Speaker 6: Oh, hi, Jess, all right, you just get back in, Yeah,

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all right, Joe.

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Speaker 9: Right, He was tired as you sound worse. Fair piece

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of news, though, Yeah, what's that Paul and Selby? They

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just found their hideout.

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Speaker 5: After three hours of canvassing the general downtown area, particularly

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in the vicinity of the last hold up, a team

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of men working with a special detail from Metropolitan Division

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interviewed a desk clerk in a small hotel on South

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Broadway who recognized the suspects mugshots. The two of them

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had registered early the morning before under the names J. E.

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Dennis and Harold Thompson, both from Fresno, California. The hotel

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room was searched and two San Quentin inmate uniforms were

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found stuffed under the mattress of the bed. After the

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room was processed for fingerprints, there was no doubt that

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the occupants were Powell and Selby. The clerk had no

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idea when they were supposed to return. The hotel was

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staked out immediately, and the city wide search for the

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escape prisoners went on. The following day, Thursday, October seventh,

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eleven thirty am, still no sign of the suspects, no

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further reports or leads as to their whereabouts. The search

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went on ed and I signed back in at the office.

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Ten minutes later, a long distance phone call came in

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for us.

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Speaker 6: When was that mort what's that? Yeah? Close enough, right,

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we'll let you know ya. Bye, Mak good on San Diego.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you want?

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Speaker 6: One of the traffic officers were checking a car about

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eight o'clock this morning, five eighty six parking Lucidan. Fits

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close to the description of the escape car.

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Speaker 2: It was a pretty common model, isn't he see anything else?

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Speaker 6: Traffic man checked the inside of the car glove compartment

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found half a dozen rows of dives and quarters, the

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same name stamped on all of them. Yeah, twenty fifty room.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police

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force in action.

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Speaker 5: October seventh, Thursday, one pm, after we got the report

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from Lieutenant mort Gear that the escape car, along with

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a few dollars of the stolen money, had been located

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in San Diego. That morning Ed and I had a

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meeting with Captain Didion. Was beginning to look like our

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first hunch was right. Howl and Selby's twenty four hour

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campaign of hold ups in the Los Angeles area had

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netted them a fresh change of clothes and more than

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enough money to live on for a while. With the

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locating of the escape car in San Diego, had looked

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like the suspects were apparently taking the next logical step,

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a fast move over the international border into Mexico, a

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distance of less than twenty miles from San Diego. Probably

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they figured once over the line they had a good

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chance of losing themselves one on Captain Didion's orders, Jessicin

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Zalez ed and I got in the car and headed

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south for San Diego with a supply of mug shots

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of the escape prisoners. We got there a few minutes

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after four pm. We went directly to the San Diego

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PD where we contacted Sergeant Tony McGuire, Robbery Detail.

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Speaker 6: Tough week here.

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Speaker 8: They've been driving you crazy up there.

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Speaker 6: Just about Tony. Four robberies in twenty four hours has

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given us a run. How about mort gear here?

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Speaker 10: Ron, Yeah, he just went down the hall. Jest I

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ought to be back in a minute. And why don't

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you fellows sit down?

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Speaker 6: Than?

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much? Well, what's the latest, Tony? Anything since

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you picked up that blue sedan?

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Speaker 10: No, not much. Got the car and the impound had

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a dust it for prints. We made them all right.

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Both Seids, poul and Selby. No sign them around.

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Speaker 8: Tom No got it pretty well covered too, not a trace.

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Speaker 2: Le're in a good spot to make it over in

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New Mexico. Hate to disappoint you.

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Speaker 6: What do you mean we think they already made it?

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Speaker 5: At six o'clock that night and zalez Ed and I,

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together with Lieutenant gear Tony McGuire and Sergeants Gaton and Schultz,

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drove south from San Diego to the international line. We

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left mug shots of Powell and Selby with the immigration

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officers at the entry gate, and then we drove into

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the town of Ta contacted the local commandant of police

475
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and he promised to school cooperation. He assigned a special

476
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detail of his men to work with us in covering

477
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the town. At eight pm, the block by block canvas

478
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of the city began. Every back alley, every bar, every restaurant,

479
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every hotel. They were all checked, the tourist attractions, the

480
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souvenir stands, the nightclubs, the highlight pavilion. We went straight

481
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through on it eight o'clock that night until five o'clock

482
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the next morning. All it got us was sore feet

483
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and a mediocre lead from a native taxi driver after

484
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being shown the mugshots, he told one of the Mexican

485
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officers in the detail that about noon that day, he

486
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picked up two Americans resembling Powell and Selby and driven

487
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them to the town of Takati, another Mexican tourist spot

488
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about twenty five miles to the east. Ten thirty am

489
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we drove over and checked with the police at Takati,

490
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and they told us the two Americans had arrived in

491
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the town that morning. He invited Jessicin Zales to go

492
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along with the three of his men to the hotel

493
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where the men were supposed to be staying ed.

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Speaker 2: And I waited in the office.

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Speaker 9: All right, all right, jess what he got oh much?

496
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Went over the hotel. The two men weren't there, desk

497
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clerk says, I told him they were driving out to

498
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a little village about a mile from here. Police coming down.

499
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Ask me to come back here and wait, said he

500
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and his men, I drive out to the village and

501
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check the man out.

502
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Speaker 2: Seems a little funny to that.

503
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Speaker 6: Really didn't invite me to come along. It's not a

504
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good idea to push him. I mean, after all, it's

505
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his jurisdiction. Yeah, we're supposed to wait here they get back. Yeah,

506
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I'm out to him now.

507
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Speaker 9: See yeah, yeah, see see about half an hour Yes,

508
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all right, goodbye, sick, they're comment down.

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Speaker 6: He and his men found the two Americans.

510
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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, go, they're not Paul and Selby.

511
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Speaker 5: Half an hour later, the police comming down of Takati

512
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returned to the station along with his men and the

513
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two American tourists in question. One look at him and

514
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we knew we'd made the trip from Tijuana for nothing

515
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except for their build and the color of their hair.

516
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The two Americans bore a little or no resemblance to

517
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Powell and Selby two point thirty pm, we headed back

518
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for Tea j and we checked in with mort Gear

519
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and the rest of the men. While we'd been gone,

520
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they'd chased down half a dozen leads, but none of

521
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them had panned out. The rest of the afternoon, we

522
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covered the racetrack at Agua Calianti and distributed mugshots of

523
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the suspects to all track police officers. The mutual windows

524
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were covered and also the foreign book.

525
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Speaker 2: No luck.

526
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Speaker 5: The six of us took time out for a bite

527
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a supper and we talked it over logically. The next

528
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place in line to cover was either the fishing town

529
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of Ensnada on the coast, or the city of Mexicali

530
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further inland. We decided to try in Sonata first. Seven

531
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point thirty that night, we checked in at the Ensinada

532
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police station, where we met with a local subcommandant, Pedro Martinez.

533
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Like the other commandants in Tijuana and Takati, he offered

534
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full cooperation and gave us a special detail of men

535
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to aid in the search. We gave him a supply

536
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of mug shots of the two convicts to distribute among

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his men.

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Speaker 6: Hey you are these are pictures one of the Manrew Paul.

539
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This one here is the other man, Bert Selby. All right,

540
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thank you? What what see?

541
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Speaker 4: Yes?

542
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Speaker 8: These pictures one criminals? Therefore distribution to the man one.

543
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Speaker 9: Each see, says the symbris seem to see.

544
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Speaker 6: Excuse me?

545
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

546
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Speaker 6: Sorry, go ahead, Joe? What is What's got me?

547
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

548
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Speaker 6: See the look on his face when the chief showed

549
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him mugshots.

550
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Speaker 2: He he's got something on his mind. I just wait

551
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a minute, Ovi.

552
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Speaker 8: He says. I hope you would excuse me?

553
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Speaker 2: Yes?

554
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Speaker 10: Or anything wrong with my assistant Saverripo, he says, he

555
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knows the pictures of these men.

556
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Speaker 6: Oh, how's that?

557
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Speaker 8: He says he saw these men this morning here in Nincenada.

558
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's sure about that, is he?

559
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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, he says he's sure. He says, the two

560
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men were here last night, right here in the station.

561
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Speaker 2: You mean you're a man booked the men? They committed

562
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some kind of crime.

563
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Speaker 8: Oh, no, sir, they came in to report a crime.

564
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Speaker 2: Eight twenty pm.

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Speaker 5: On further questioning, the assistant to the ENSNATA Commandant of

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Police told us that the night before, two men answering

567
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Powell and Selby's description, had come in to file a

568
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complaint at the Central police station. They charged that they'd

569
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had their pockets picked at a local bar while they

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were under the influence of alcohol. The two complainants, who

571
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matched Powell's and Selby's descriptions perfectly signed themselves Je Dennis

572
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,640
and Harold Thompson, both from Presno, California, the same names

573
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and addresses that had been used by the occupants of

574
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the South Side Los Angeles hotel room where the discarded

575
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prison uniforms had been found a day and.

576
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Speaker 2: A half before.

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Speaker 5: After a brief talk with a police commandant, he dispatched

578
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a special detail to go out and pick up the

579
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two men registered as Dennis and Thompson at a motel

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near the south end of the city. At the Commandant's request,

581
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we remained at the office. Nine pm nine thirty the

582
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detail assigned to the job returned, but with only one

583
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of the suspects with him, Andrew Powell, while resisting arrest.

584
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The other suspect, identified as Selby, received a cut forward

585
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and was being taken to a local clinic for treatment.

586
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The commandant briefed us on what had happened. Their ooms

587
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were searched Office of Friday.

588
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Speaker 8: Some money was found. Also two gune say rivolrey shud

589
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gun here they are.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks for very much. Well, Paul, how about it?

591
00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:02,960
You're ready to cop out?

592
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Speaker 6: What are you talking about? Cop out? Would you guys

593
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,680
come all the way down here for anyway. You can't

594
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,720
touch us. What makes you think we can? You can't.

595
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:10,480
That's all you know about it. You can't arrest us

596
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,079
down here. No jurisdiction. We didn't arrestue Paul. The Mexican

597
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:13,920
officers did.

598
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Speaker 9: Okay, find out how they expect to get us out

599
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,480
of Mexico. Yes again, Copper you know you can't do it.

600
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You haven't got the right.

601
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Speaker 5: Maybe you want to tell us where you have the loot,

602
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,599
the money you're took in those hold ups.

603
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 9: Why should I look? Why don't you admit it? We

604
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:26,000
got your beat, we got over the line. You can't

605
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:26,720
touch this down here.

606
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:29,079
Speaker 5: I don't bet on that, mister comment down, Yes, sir,

607
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,880
you want to tell them how it stands.

608
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Speaker 8: I will see that the end Island charge of the

609
00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:35,240
Northern District is notified. In the morning of your case.

610
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,279
You will see that you and your partner are deported.

611
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Speaker 9: What are you trying to pull? You can't do that.

612
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,400
You know it's illegal, so's robbery. Paul, Come up, It

613
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,480
doesn't make any difference. You can't touch this in Mexico.

614
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,880
It's against the law. You can't touch it.

615
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Speaker 10: A popular misconception, mister Paul, I'm afraid you have made

616
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a mistake.

617
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Speaker 2: If you like to compass the word, how long would

618
00:25:51,519 --> 00:25:53,440
it be for us to receive the prisoners at the answer?

619
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Speaker 8: I don't know A long time. I think maybe as

620
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long as one o'clock tomorrow.

621
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Speaker 9: You know you can't do this. You'll never get away

622
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,880
with it. I know a lawyer one I'll get him

623
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,519
to train that out.

624
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 8: You understand, sergeant, we can't hand this man over to

625
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:04,440
you now.

626
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Speaker 10: But if you will be at the international border at

627
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one o'clock tomorrow, I'm sure they'll be crossing over.

628
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Speaker 6: You can't do this. It's illegal. You know you can't.

629
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Speaker 9: We're gonna try wasting your time. Why don't you admit it.

630
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,759
You can't arrest us. We got over the line, we

631
00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:16,119
got your beat. You can't arrest us.

632
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Speaker 8: And you know it.

633
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Speaker 4: You know that.

634
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Speaker 2: There's only one thing I know for sure.

635
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Speaker 6: Powell.

636
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, San Quentin, you got out and you're going back.

637
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Speaker 3: The story you have just heard was true. The names

638
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,880
were changed to protect the innocent.

639
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Speaker 4: On December ninth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department

640
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eighty seven, City in County of Los Angeles, State of California.

641
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In a moment the results of that trial, Andrew Powell

642
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:55,400
and Bertram Selby were deported from Mexico as undesirable aliens

643
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and turned over to US authorities at the international boarder.

644
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They were immediately arrested by police officers on the American

645
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,880
side and returned to Los Angeles for trial. They pled

646
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,759
guilty to four counts of first degree robbery and received

647
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:11,799
sentences as prescribed by law. First degree robbery is punishable

648
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:14,119
by a prison term of from five years to life.

649
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,440
After being returned to San Quentin, Powell and Selby were

650
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filed on, tried, and convicted of escape. Both of them

651
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:25,359
are now serving life terms in fulsome state penitentiary Represser California.

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Speaker 3: For their cooperation in preparing tonight's broadcast. Dragnet wishes to

653
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,559
thank Chief of Police Adamy Jansen in the San Diego

654
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Police Department.

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Speaker 4: You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases

656
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:51,240
from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of

657
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:54,400
Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department

658
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,519
Technical advisors, Captain Jack Donaho, Sergeant Marty Winn, Sergeant Van Sprascher.

659
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Heard Tonight where Barney Phillips with Connor Herbellus. Script by

660
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Jim Mozer, music by Walter Schumann. Hell give me Speaking.

661
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Speaker 2: Now, It's counter Spy on NBC.

662
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,839
Speaker 1: Welcome Back Well, an episode that illustrated the dangers of

663
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,559
believing a cultural myth when it really matters. In this case,

664
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a lot of people had the idea that if you

665
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,519
committed a crime and you escaped across the Mexican border.

666
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,319
You were home free. And this reveals the truth. No,

667
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:50,200
not really, not at all. Really. Now, it is true,

668
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,960
of course that Sergeant Friday couldn't arrest them on Mexican soil,

669
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But the truth is that Mexico has had a longstanding

670
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:05,880
extradition treaty with the United States, but they didn't even

671
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,920
bother with that, as you were dealing with a clear

672
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:15,680
case of escape convicts entering the country under an assumed name,

673
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:23,240
just going ahead and expelling them as undesirable aliens. That'll

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do the track.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: Of course, like with many popular myths, there is a

677
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:35,200
kernel of truth that the myth is based on. As

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00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,839
someone in law enforcement, you don't want your suspect escaping

679
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,319
to Mexico because you don't have jurisdiction there to follow

680
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:49,079
a legal process. You're going to end up losing time

681
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,519
and giving your fugitive a head start into the country

682
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:58,759
while you arrange things through proper channels. And in fact,

683
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many fugitives have escaped from Mexico and remain hidden for

684
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,759
years because there are a lot of places to hide,

685
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:11,720
particularly if you know people who will help you, or

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00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:15,960
you know the country, or you understand the process and

687
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you keep moving. If, on the other hand, you stay

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relatively close to the border, and you so much assume

689
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that you are home free in Mexico that you feel

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free to go into the police station to file a

691
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,359
complaint about a pickpocket, then it will be a lot

692
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easier for you to be caught. Now it's time to think.

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Speaker 11: As you were saying, mister Herling, yes, mister Doner, I

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certainly hope mister.

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Speaker 3: Moody shows up again.

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Speaker 6: Your fine man, fine man.

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Speaker 11: Used to come down here at the store for quiet

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game of checkers. Now man, and the police have no

710
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idea where he might have gone or why. Yeah, well,

711
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:39,880
I guess I'm about the only police we have here

712
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,039
in Kirkwood. All of course, I notified the state police,

713
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and I.

714
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Speaker 2: Presume they're still looking.

715
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:49,039
Speaker 11: For just what happened. Mister Hrling just took the bus.

716
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: Into Philadelphia one day.

717
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 11: Well, let's the last.

718
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: We heard of him.

719
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,839
Speaker 11: Do you know anything about the beneficiary of his insurance.

720
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:59,920
Let's see, according to my list, it's your nephew, mister Dollar. Yeah,

721
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:04,000
Charles Mordy lives out in California. Yeah, mister Moody always

722
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,400
felt that he was the most deserving of his relatives,

723
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,839
left him everything, well, the insurance and his money. Yes,

724
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:13,640
you know, I know, because I'm the only lawyer here

725
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,319
in Kirkwood, and I made out a will for her.

726
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,000
You say, just the money to his nephew, except for

727
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,920
his wine cellar.

728
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Speaker 3: All his property will go to the.

729
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 11: Town wine cellar.

730
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: Yes.

731
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Speaker 11: If mister Moody doesn't come back, or if he's proved

732
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,599
to be dead, the wine cellar will go over to

733
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,720
a man over in Philadelphia had themselves a sort of

734
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:33,400
a girl met club.

735
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Speaker 6: I guess you'd call it. I see.

736
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Speaker 11: But now tell me, you know, I kind of wish

737
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,480
he will meet that wine cellar. Oh, you should see

738
00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:42,880
the collection he has there from all over the world,

739
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,079
German wines and French. And I'm sure.

740
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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime.

741
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742
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