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<v Speaker 1>Welcomeboard, Welcome to another Space City Saturday on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 1>seven ninety Dad Matthews Live and local h town breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>of the world that matters to you, the Houston sports world.

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<v Speaker 2>All these great Houston fans here.

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<v Speaker 3>We love you all, So finish up on that to

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<v Speaker 3>do list.

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<v Speaker 1>Flute up the cooler, because you can't drink in talk

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<v Speaker 1>sports all day if you don't start. Now bear me

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<v Speaker 1>the eight. This is Space City Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>That's insane. Here's seven nineties Dan Matthews.

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<v Speaker 4>And indeed it is a beautiful morning here in the age,

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<v Speaker 4>a little chilly out there, all good, but hopefully you're

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<v Speaker 4>getting all the honey dews and everything done before you

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<v Speaker 4>can settle in to watch some college football or are

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<v Speaker 4>in the case here on our iHeartRadio family of stations,

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<v Speaker 4>listen to tons of college football because we've got a

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<v Speaker 4>bevy of options for you today. Get into that a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit later on as the show goes along. Away

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<v Speaker 4>we go here on Space City Saturday. Dan Matthews here

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<v Speaker 4>with you for the next couple of hours. Melvin Brown,

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<v Speaker 4>of course behind the glass making things happen there for us,

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<v Speaker 4>so appreciate his work as always a lot to get

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<v Speaker 4>into here on the show today gonna be majority Texans,

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<v Speaker 4>especially here in the first hour. I think you pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much know how the theme of the show goes. Although

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<v Speaker 4>you know we've had a little bit of a hiatus

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<v Speaker 4>the last couple of weeks. I mean those darn eleven

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<v Speaker 4>am kickoffs either for I guess both of them were

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<v Speaker 4>for Texas against both Florida and last week against Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 4>As they'll be back in action a little bit later

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<v Speaker 4>on today, so you have that to look forward to.

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<v Speaker 4>Know that Gordy, as a matter of fact, is up

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<v Speaker 4>in Austin for that one. If you follow Chris Gordy

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<v Speaker 4>on social media, you saw that he was able to

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<v Speaker 4>catch up with a lot of the SEC network media types.

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<v Speaker 4>I know he caught up with Roman Harper and also

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<v Speaker 4>too if you're listening to the A Team yesterday, me

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<v Speaker 4>and Adam talking about Ryan McGee's article about you know

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<v Speaker 4>when he probably would guess that Forrest Gump played at

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<v Speaker 4>Alabama and it's a pretty fun little article. Ryan's really

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<v Speaker 4>really good people. If you don't follow Ryan McGhee, then

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<v Speaker 4>I really recommend you do so, because not only does

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<v Speaker 4>he do incredible work for his day job, he's also

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<v Speaker 4>a heck of a guy too as well, in a

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<v Speaker 4>really really huge connoisseur of minor league baseball hats, and

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<v Speaker 4>I told him when I moved back here, I said, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 4>you know they sell Corpus Christy hooks, hats, space cowboy hats,

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<v Speaker 4>all of that in the Astros team store. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>if you want me to grab you one, I'd be

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<v Speaker 4>more than willing to do so. Yeah, Ryan is a good,

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<v Speaker 4>good dude. So Gordie is out there for that one.

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<v Speaker 4>As the college football season sadly coming to an end,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I've talked about it before. I know college

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<v Speaker 4>football is not huge here anymore, and we don't do

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<v Speaker 4>a ton of college football talk on here. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>just because again, I mean, what do you mostly care

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<v Speaker 4>about right now? You care about the Texans. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>you also, when it's Astros season, we're wall to wall Stros,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean tons of you want to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>weigh in on that, And even though it's the off season,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll still get into a little bit of the Stros

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<v Speaker 4>today because of course Dana Brown speaking earlier this week

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<v Speaker 4>with Steve Sparks and also Todd Kallis on Astro Line

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<v Speaker 4>and by the way, too. Had somebody call in and

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<v Speaker 4>ask the other day about when the next astro line is.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to be.

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<v Speaker 4>It's more or less during the off season, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was Martin. I think you called it, Martin.

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<v Speaker 4>It's more or less during the off season. That if

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<v Speaker 4>there is a signing or something like that and they

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<v Speaker 4>have a press conference and you know, a whole availability

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<v Speaker 4>at Minute Made Park, then we'll probably put one together because,

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<v Speaker 4>like I said, Todd Sparky, maybe even Robert Ford, whoever

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<v Speaker 4>it is, we'll sit down with you know, whatever new

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<v Speaker 4>player they've signed, or you know, if they've hired somebody

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<v Speaker 4>to a you know, a huge position in the organization. Say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like last year we had Astrolne when they

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<v Speaker 4>hired Joe Aspada, so you had that. And then the

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<v Speaker 4>other day they had the event there to rename Minute

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<v Speaker 4>Made Park dyik In Park Now. So that was a

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<v Speaker 4>chance where I think you know Bolts Matt Boltz set

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<v Speaker 4>up the equipment and they asked Dana, hey, you want

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<v Speaker 4>to sit down and talk for a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 4>Dana said, sure, I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's where you get Astrolne.

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<v Speaker 4>But then once we get into spring training, that's when

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<v Speaker 4>we will have weekly ones. So there you go, Martin,

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully I answered your question for you. But anyway, with

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<v Speaker 4>the Texans, like I said, I've got a game tomorrow

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<v Speaker 4>against the Titans after a night sort of win on

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<v Speaker 4>the road Monday night. As the Texans in their primetime

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<v Speaker 4>appearances this season and even five hundred and two and two,

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<v Speaker 4>you win the first one out the gate against the Bears,

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<v Speaker 4>then you lose the next couple of course, Thursday night

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<v Speaker 4>there to the Jets.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a frustrating loss.

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<v Speaker 4>And then also too equally, maybe even more frustrating the

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<v Speaker 4>following week Sunday Night football against the Lions, when you

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<v Speaker 4>had a sixteen point lead in the second half, unable

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<v Speaker 4>to hold on to it. Lions kick the walk off

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<v Speaker 4>field goal. So that was a tough loss. So this

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the Texans really wanted on the road

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<v Speaker 4>and they were able to take care of business thirty

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<v Speaker 4>four to ten over the Cowboys. So things you love

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<v Speaker 4>to see, indeed, no doubt about it. And I know

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<v Speaker 4>a ton of you were up there in Arlington representing.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw all the photos, I saw the videos. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you know you saw the one Texans fan who got

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<v Speaker 4>up on the little awning right there in one of

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<v Speaker 4>the tunnels there that has the Cowboys star on it,

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<v Speaker 4>and was kind of doing the Terrell Owens you a

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<v Speaker 4>little stance that he did on the Star, but this

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<v Speaker 4>time you didn't have Darren Woodson coming down to chase

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<v Speaker 4>this guy off the star. But it was a really

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<v Speaker 4>really good showing there. I mean, people I've talked with

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<v Speaker 4>just said that it was unreal how many Texan fans

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<v Speaker 4>were at that game. And look, I mean, you're doing

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<v Speaker 4>it the right way if you're a Texans fan in

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<v Speaker 4>that regard. You smell blood in the water. The Cowboys

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<v Speaker 4>are down, but hey, that's their problem, it's not your problem.

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<v Speaker 4>And you wanted to be able to go and be

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<v Speaker 4>able to take over the building. And for the most

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<v Speaker 4>part you did that. So good to see that out

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<v Speaker 4>of the Texan fans. But the team on the field

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<v Speaker 4>itself last week, I mean, offensively, I think we can

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<v Speaker 4>continue to say a little bit of a mixed bag.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a group that's still trying to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to find their footing in terms of being the

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<v Speaker 4>offense they really believed and hoped that they would be

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<v Speaker 4>coming into this season. I mean, I know that ideally

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<v Speaker 4>the offense was going to be pretty much everybody healthy

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<v Speaker 4>this year, where you get a strong addition in Stefan Diggs,

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<v Speaker 4>and a half, that also kind of helps slow down

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<v Speaker 4>the development in the second year both c J. Stroud

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<v Speaker 4>and also of Bobby Slowick.

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<v Speaker 5>But you get some.

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<v Speaker 4>Good news for tomorrow on the injury front. Will Anderson Junior,

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<v Speaker 4>Kamari Laster as he's Al Shaier and also Derek Stingley

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<v Speaker 4>all on the injury report, but all of them with

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<v Speaker 4>no designation next to their name. You even heard yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>we played the short clip from will Anderson Junior with

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<v Speaker 4>our own Aaron Wilson saying, Yep, I'm gonna be out there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good to go. It's good to be back. So

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<v Speaker 4>good to see number fifty one back in the fold.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, you just know what he's able to

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<v Speaker 4>do from a pass rush perspective and also to just

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<v Speaker 4>would almost say even though he's a starter, that do

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<v Speaker 4>you think it's a fair comparison to say Will Anderson

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<v Speaker 4>Junior is to the Texans kind of like what Tari

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<v Speaker 4>Easton is to the Rockets, you know, just gives you

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<v Speaker 4>that's what Tarry Easton will do. And that's what Will

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<v Speaker 4>Anderson Junior does as well. And while he's been out,

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<v Speaker 4>Deniko Autry has done some good stuff, Daniel Hunter has

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<v Speaker 4>good stuff last week. As it was funny, I did

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<v Speaker 4>not know this that the last Texan defensive player to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to cause a fumble and then scoop up

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<v Speaker 4>the fumble and run it back for a touchdown. You're

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<v Speaker 4>head coach Tamiko Ryans. I believe he did it. I

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<v Speaker 4>think ESPN said he did it back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and six. I think is when Damiko Ryans did that,

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<v Speaker 4>so way back in the early stages of his career.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, it's good to know that those guys are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be back. Deniko Autry questionable. He's got a

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<v Speaker 4>knee and oblique issues, so trying to see if he

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be able to play in post against

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<v Speaker 4>his former team tomorrow, But Texans are an eight point favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, Tennessee banged up in their own

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<v Speaker 4>right as well. I know that Tajy Spears not going

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<v Speaker 4>not going to be able to go for the Titans.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is a Titans team that, while they've played

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<v Speaker 4>some good games this season, they're not as good as you,

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<v Speaker 4>and not even anywhere close as good as you. And

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know this is, for all intents and

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<v Speaker 4>purposes in the AFC South a two team race at

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<v Speaker 4>this point, and the Texans have a significant advantage with

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<v Speaker 4>not only beating the Colts twice, but also too where

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<v Speaker 4>they are in front of the Colts. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>know that Indianapolis kind of tightening things up last week

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<v Speaker 4>with their win in Jersey over the Jets, but two

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time, I mean, you know, you've already

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<v Speaker 4>taken care of the business that you needed to take

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<v Speaker 4>care of over them, and really for the Texans, it

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of comes to, you know, let time run

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<v Speaker 4>out on them, and for you a chance to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to do that is you win tomorrow. And then

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<v Speaker 4>you go on the road next week and take on

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<v Speaker 4>a hapless Jags team that is at this point pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much just playing out the string and getting ready to

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<v Speaker 4>fire their coach sooner rather than later. So we'll get

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<v Speaker 4>Really busy day here on Sports Talk seven ninety and

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<v Speaker 4>all of our iHeartRadio stations here of course, KPRC nine

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<v Speaker 4>to fifty, News Radio seven forty KTRH, those two stations

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<v Speaker 4>Talk seven ninety, you'll get Craig Way, Roger Wallace, Will

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<v Speaker 4>to you Texas and Kentucky TV wise here, that's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be the two thirty window right there, So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>going here. If you're looking for you of h football

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<v Speaker 4>tonight against Baylor, of course wearing the H Town blues.

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<v Speaker 4>So I've got to believe that this is intentional for

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<v Speaker 4>order to go bowling. I mean, but you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>Bowl games. I mean that's huge in its own right,

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<v Speaker 4>and able to come over here to third Ward and

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<v Speaker 4>in college football again. So five o'clock is where you're

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<v Speaker 4>So be Kevin Aschemfelder and also Ted Party on the

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<v Speaker 4>call of that. I'm gonna say this really quickly, just

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<v Speaker 4>most of our bosses here at iHeartRadio in Houston are

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<v Speaker 4>fun year. So if you are inclined, if you are

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<v Speaker 4>seven ninety Sports Talk seven ninety coming up at five o'clock.

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<v Speaker 5>I know I just sold it incredibly well.

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<v Speaker 4>But look when you're six and four, when you thought

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<v Speaker 4>coming into the season that maybe being one of the

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<v Speaker 4>real strong possibility. Yeah, it's a massive disappointment, man, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the way the season has gone. But then you're probably saying,

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<v Speaker 4>after I've mentioned all of that, hey, Dan, you hadn't

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, well, I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's going to be him doing launch Pad and wrap.

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<v Speaker 4>the call again over on news Radio seven forty KTRH.

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<v Speaker 4>Rockets taking care of business last night one sixteen to

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<v Speaker 4>eighty eight at Toyota Center over the Blazers. Blazers at

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<v Speaker 4>one point had an eight point lead in the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 4>but then the Rockets just.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely able to take over.

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<v Speaker 4>Dylan Brooks was unconscious from three point last night, seventh

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<v Speaker 4>time in his career that he has had six to

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<v Speaker 4>Brooks last night. Tarry Easton fantastic as well, twenty two

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<v Speaker 4>save that. I mean I said it last night on

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<v Speaker 4>Fun highlights from last night's one sixteen eighty eight win

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<v Speaker 4>to the Milwaukee Bucks, and also too at some time

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<v Speaker 4>the show today we are going to get into. Dana

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<v Speaker 5>He talked about Alex.

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<v Speaker 4>blue number two. So that's what we have to look

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<v Speaker 4>forward to. But coming up next, this emphasis for the

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<v Speaker 4>Texans is something that if they are able to accomplish it, I.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll let you hear exactly what that is from a

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<v Speaker 4>we get started here on Space City Saturday. You want

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly Space City Saturday. On Sports Talk seven ninety, Sports Talk.

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<v Speaker 5>Seven ninety when Space City Saturday, Melvin tolling me.

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<v Speaker 4>still getting into the studio.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess is ncis LA still a thing?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, me and Matt Thomas had this conversation the

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<v Speaker 4>other day in terms of like network TV shows and

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<v Speaker 4>of course, you know, talking about like ABC, NBC, CBS,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I mean, it used to be appointment viewing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, remember the sitcom days. Of course you wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to watch Seinfeld. You want to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to watch Friends, just shoot me. Whatever it was

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<v Speaker 4>you wanted to be able to watch those shows. But

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, honestly, I can't tell you the last time

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<v Speaker 4>that I watched any of the major network shows anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I know, you know, obviously, if you watch

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<v Speaker 4>Sunday Night Football, they've got all the promos for their shows.

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<v Speaker 4>If you watch you know, the NFL on CBS, you

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<v Speaker 4>get same deal, Fox kind of same deal as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just I can't tell you outside of Yellowstone

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<v Speaker 4>and land Man, any other shows that I even remotely

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<v Speaker 4>pay attention to. But land Man, I know that network wise,

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<v Speaker 4>they've had one episode on Paramount. But on Paramount, which

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<v Speaker 4>we're lucky enough to have, you can already watch episode

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<v Speaker 4>two Billy Bob Thornton's awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you have a chance to.

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<v Speaker 4>Check out land Man, and obviously to a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a regional tie as well. I mean, he's a

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<v Speaker 4>landman for oil fields there in Midland is where it's

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<v Speaker 4>gas industry very intertwined into our area and into our state.

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<v Speaker 4>So a little bit of a regional hat tip if

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<v Speaker 4>you will to us here in the great state of Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, I had mentioned about a emphasis on finishing

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<v Speaker 4>in the second half for the Texans as something that

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<v Speaker 4>could really serve them well going forward for the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of this season. You saw that there was a middle

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<v Speaker 4>stretch of the season. I mean, I've talked about the

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<v Speaker 4>loss to the Lions where you had a sixteen point

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<v Speaker 4>lead and you're unable to get into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 4>You're unable to put up any points whatsoever. If they

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<v Speaker 4>were able to score nineteen straight unanswered points and beat

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<v Speaker 4>you with a walk off field goal.

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<v Speaker 5>Same deal against the Jets.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean up until last Monday against the Cowboys, when

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Mixon was able to run in for a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 4>which by the way, I think it came on a

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<v Speaker 4>gone forward on fourth down with the express purpose of, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we're getting into the end zone hooker by crook, Like

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<v Speaker 4>we're finding a way to be able to break this,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, games without a touchdown in the second half

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<v Speaker 4>streak that we've been on since you know, the last

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<v Speaker 4>time they did do it against the Patriots up there.

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<v Speaker 5>In New England.

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<v Speaker 4>But Jamiko Ryans speaking about that about the emphasis of

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<v Speaker 4>trying to finish off games in the second half, Pet

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<v Speaker 2>Again did a good job of just competing and finishing

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<v Speaker 2>in the second half. That's a point of emphasis for us,

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<v Speaker 2>and that won't change moving forward. Like for us to

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<v Speaker 2>continue to grow and become a really good team, we

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<v Speaker 2>had to finish games in the second half. So most

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<v Speaker 2>proud of our guys about that. That didn't change from

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know that's something too that I've talked

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, that's going to come back to bite them a

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<v Speaker 4>And perhaps, like I said, that Lions game it definitely

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<v Speaker 5>Same deal there as well. You could even make an

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<v Speaker 4>Third of their four losses that they had that I

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<v Speaker 4>haven't even mentioned yet, the Green Bay game, same deal.

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<v Speaker 4>The Minnesota game was an anomaly in all of this

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<v Speaker 4>because they were never in that game. Second half, first half,

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<v Speaker 4>it didn't matter. Minnesota was winning that game. So you

423
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<v Speaker 4>kind of take, you know, just chalk that one as

424
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<v Speaker 4>up as a loss. You go the next week, you

425
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<v Speaker 4>try to play, you try to win, you try to

426
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<v Speaker 4>do all those different types of things, and that's what

427
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<v Speaker 4>they've been able to do. But I've told you numerous

428
00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:55.480
<v Speaker 4>times that is this season wears long. And maybe it's

429
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<v Speaker 4>not tomorrow against Tennessee, maybe it's not next week in

430
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<v Speaker 4>Jacksonville against the Jaguars, but you're going to have and

431
00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:06.599
<v Speaker 4>improved Miami Dolphins team coming here to NRG Stadium. And

432
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<v Speaker 4>I say they're improved because, well, they've got Tuoa on

433
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<v Speaker 4>the field, and they're looking the way that they're supposed

434
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<v Speaker 4>to look, and they're looking like the team that a

435
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<v Speaker 4>lot of people were wondering, is this the team that

436
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<v Speaker 4>wins the AFC last year? And they faltered a little

437
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<v Speaker 4>bit down the stretch. Then they go up to Kansas

438
00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.279
<v Speaker 4>City and had to try to battle frostbite and ended

439
00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:28.279
<v Speaker 4>up losing to the Chiefs. And we know how the

440
00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:31.079
<v Speaker 4>playoffs last year broke down. Of course, it was Kansas

441
00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:33.759
<v Speaker 4>City walking it off there in Vegas two when yet

442
00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:38.319
<v Speaker 4>another Super Bowl title. But in games like this, you're

443
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<v Speaker 4>going to be playing these down the stretch. You're going

444
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<v Speaker 4>to be playing it against Miami. You're going to do

445
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<v Speaker 4>the same thing the following Saturday in Kansas City against

446
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<v Speaker 4>the Chiefs and then Christmas Day here in Houston against

447
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<v Speaker 4>the Baltimore Ravens. That's probably going to be the game

448
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<v Speaker 4>that you're in. And not only that, coming out of

449
00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:58.599
<v Speaker 4>those games, you hopefully are able to lock up the

450
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<v Speaker 4>AFC South by that point and know either you're playing

451
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<v Speaker 4>on wildcard weekend or that you've got a first round

452
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<v Speaker 4>by and you're able to make it into the next

453
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<v Speaker 4>weekend of not having to play in that wildcard round.

454
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<v Speaker 4>You've got a home home game for the divisional series,

455
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<v Speaker 4>and if you are able to win that game, then

456
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<v Speaker 4>you make it to your first AFC Championship game. As

457
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<v Speaker 4>an organization, Texans have never been there, They've never gotten

458
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<v Speaker 4>past Divisional round weekend and they're trying to be able

459
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<v Speaker 4>to do that this year. But that's something too as

460
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<v Speaker 4>well that you hear football coaches all the time emphasize.

461
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Nick Saban for the longest time at Alabama,

462
00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:38.960
<v Speaker 4>the infamous fourth quarter program. That was their whole thing.

463
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.519
<v Speaker 4>They wanted to be able to say in the fourth quarter,

464
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<v Speaker 4>we see that you're tired, We know that you're tired.

465
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<v Speaker 4>Here comes the grindstone because now we're just going to

466
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<v Speaker 4>grind you down and we're going to physically beat you

467
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<v Speaker 4>up now because we're in better shape than you are,

468
00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:55.119
<v Speaker 4>we're more disciplined than you are, and we're going to

469
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<v Speaker 4>be able to find a way to run you off

470
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<v Speaker 4>the football field. And that's what made him so successful

471
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<v Speaker 4>for or as long as.

472
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<v Speaker 5>He's been there.

473
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:04.039
<v Speaker 4>Jamiko Ryans is pretty much in the same mindset. You

474
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<v Speaker 4>hear him talk about it all the time. There's a

475
00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:09.039
<v Speaker 4>reason why this team wants to be as physical as

476
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:12.720
<v Speaker 4>possible on both lines of scrimmage. The offense, it's been

477
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:14.279
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of a work in progress. I think

478
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<v Speaker 4>we can agree with that, and you know, for the

479
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<v Speaker 4>most part, and we'll get into the offensive line here

480
00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:23.559
<v Speaker 4>coming up in the next segment. But they're hoping that

481
00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.160
<v Speaker 4>the moves that they've made of kicking Juice Scruggs over

482
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.079
<v Speaker 4>to left guard and having Jarrett Patterson as the center

483
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:32.359
<v Speaker 4>is the missing piece that they've needed to be able

484
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<v Speaker 4>to get that group working as five and be able

485
00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:36.880
<v Speaker 4>to be the group that you hope they could be,

486
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 4>to not only be able to protect CJ.

487
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:40.960
<v Speaker 5>Stroud, but also to.

488
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<v Speaker 4>The most productive offensive weapon the Texans have had this season,

489
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.839
<v Speaker 4>Joe Mixon. Being able to get him going and how

490
00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:50.799
<v Speaker 4>you know, have him be another huge reason of why

491
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:54.160
<v Speaker 4>you've won games. I probably could look at about three

492
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:57.319
<v Speaker 4>of the Texans wins this year and say, yeah, you

493
00:24:57.359 --> 00:24:59.559
<v Speaker 4>won that game because of Joe Mixon. Monday Night was

494
00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:03.160
<v Speaker 4>one of them. Indianapolis was another one, And I believe

495
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.799
<v Speaker 4>even the second Indianapolis game was another game that Mixon

496
00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:08.880
<v Speaker 4>was able to show up and be huge for this

497
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.759
<v Speaker 4>team and help them win that game. But on the

498
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.000
<v Speaker 4>defensive side, that's what that group has been this season.

499
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:19.359
<v Speaker 4>Either with suspensions or injuries, whatever it might be, that

500
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:23.160
<v Speaker 4>group has been a really strong, you know, a feather

501
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:27.640
<v Speaker 4>in the hat for Demiko and for this Texans defense,

502
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:30.480
<v Speaker 4>and they've been the reason why this team is in

503
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.200
<v Speaker 4>so many close games, even when the offense is not

504
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:35.480
<v Speaker 4>humming along the way that you hoped that it would.

505
00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:38.559
<v Speaker 4>So again, I mean, it's one of those things that

506
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<v Speaker 4>you know, some people might say, Yay, we get it,

507
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:43.799
<v Speaker 4>second half, emphasis, finish all that kind of stuff.

508
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, very good.

509
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<v Speaker 4>But I mean it is kind of a thing that

510
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<v Speaker 4>I remembered a buddy of mine brought it up a

511
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:52.759
<v Speaker 4>few years ago of you know, why things are continuously

512
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:57.359
<v Speaker 4>said his example. To some it might seem a little extreme,

513
00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.799
<v Speaker 4>but it fits, I believe is it's almost like a

514
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.160
<v Speaker 4>person that goes to alcoholics anonymous. You have to continuously

515
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:07.839
<v Speaker 4>remind yourself all the time. You have to continuously say it.

516
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.480
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I know that some people might say, well,

517
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.759
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's a difference between saying it and actually

518
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:17.440
<v Speaker 4>doing it. But the point is I think incredibly valid

519
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:19.880
<v Speaker 4>that you know, you need to tell yourself we finished

520
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:21.839
<v Speaker 4>in the second half. We finished in the second half.

521
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.160
<v Speaker 4>We finished in the second half, and you also put

522
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:25.559
<v Speaker 4>in the work to be able to do that. And

523
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:27.960
<v Speaker 4>that's what Texans continue to try to do. They've won

524
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 4>many close games this season. And it's something too that

525
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.799
<v Speaker 4>I've told you, I think can benefit them going forward,

526
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:37.400
<v Speaker 4>because you're not going to be in games more than

527
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 4>likely against Kansas City or against Baltimore, or when you

528
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<v Speaker 4>get into the playoffs where you're up by two, three,

529
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:46.240
<v Speaker 4>maybe even more scores, You're probably going to be in

530
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:48.599
<v Speaker 4>a situation where you're saying, hey, we need to go

531
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:50.640
<v Speaker 4>down the field right here, kick a field goal and

532
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:53.160
<v Speaker 4>put ourselves up by ten, or hey, we need to

533
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 4>go down the field right here, be able to score

534
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:57.400
<v Speaker 4>a touchdown so we can regain the lead or tie

535
00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:59.519
<v Speaker 4>up the game, and then be able to give ourselves

536
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:01.880
<v Speaker 4>a chance late score to try to walk this thing off.

537
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's what you're probably going to be into

538
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.839
<v Speaker 4>as the season goes along, and that's what the Texans

539
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:10.920
<v Speaker 4>continue to try to condition themselves to be. The offensive

540
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.880
<v Speaker 4>line conversation, we'll get into that here in the final

541
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:17.359
<v Speaker 4>segment of the show, because coming up next yesterday on

542
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:20.519
<v Speaker 4>the A Team with Adam Clanton and Adam Wexler, we

543
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 4>had a chance to talk with He was a brief Texan,

544
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.519
<v Speaker 4>but a man that knows a lot about this at

545
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:31.319
<v Speaker 4>Texans and Titans rivalry. He is former NFL receiver Derek

546
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.680
<v Speaker 4>Mason from one oh two five the game there in Nashville.

547
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:36.799
<v Speaker 4>He joined us on the show. We'll let you hear

548
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:40.440
<v Speaker 4>that conversation coming up right here on Space City Saturday.

549
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.319
<v Speaker 4>It's Dan Matthews here with you until noon on your

550
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<v Speaker 4>home of the Astros and the Rockets, Sports Talk seven ninety.

551
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<v Speaker 1>We now return to Space City Saturday, Sports Talk seven ninety.

552
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<v Speaker 5>You're off in the Houston.

553
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<v Speaker 4>I had this as an earworm today, and of course

554
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:04.119
<v Speaker 4>you don't know the song, Sir Paul McCartney jet. I

555
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.720
<v Speaker 4>believe this is Sir Paul McCartney in Wings. Obviously, I

556
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:10.240
<v Speaker 4>mean it's not the Beatles. But anyway, I was humming

557
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 4>it during the break and Melvin Brown goes, god, what

558
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 4>is that song? I know that song, I just can't

559
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:19.440
<v Speaker 4>think of the name, and I said, it's Paul McCartney jet.

560
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.200
<v Speaker 4>So there you go. So if any of you the

561
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:26.960
<v Speaker 4>rest of the day are going around humming d then

562
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 4>you know where that earworm came from.

563
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<v Speaker 5>So again you're welcome, all right.

564
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<v Speaker 4>So yesterday on the A Team, we had a chance

565
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.880
<v Speaker 4>to catch up with a man who spent a brief

566
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.160
<v Speaker 4>period of time with the Texans back in twenty eleven.

567
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:43.839
<v Speaker 4>Of course, spent most of his career with the Tennessee

568
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 4>Titans and also with the Baltimore Ravens, also a stop

569
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 4>in there with the New York Jets.

570
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:51.440
<v Speaker 5>He is Derek Mason.

571
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:55.200
<v Speaker 4>He joined us on the A team and Adam Clanton

572
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 4>had handled this interview because Wex had already moved off

573
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.000
<v Speaker 4>to go take care of his duties of the Rockets

574
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 4>and Blazers game over at Toyota Center. So AC starting

575
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 4>off the conversation with Derek Mason talking about is it

576
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:13.119
<v Speaker 4>kind of weird that the Texans and Titans are never

577
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:14.640
<v Speaker 4>really good at the same time.

578
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:17.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you're right about that.

579
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 7>I can't recall even the eight years I played here

580
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 7>in Nashville from ninety seven oh four, Houston wasn't a

581
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 7>good team. Now, they had some good players, but they

582
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 7>were not a good team. And when I went to Baltimore,

583
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:35.279
<v Speaker 7>it still was the same. They had some good you know,

584
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 7>a few good seasons here and there, but they were

585
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.440
<v Speaker 7>not a perennial good team. But they found themselves a

586
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 7>head coach and Demico Ryans.

587
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 6>They found themselves a quarterback in CJ.

588
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:50.799
<v Speaker 7>Stroud, And then when you draft Will Anderson and Stingley

589
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 7>the year before you're building yourself a nucleus that you

590
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 7>know could potentially do damage for years to come.

591
00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:00.160
<v Speaker 8>And how many times does it come down that?

592
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 9>And you mentioned the head coach, But it's so much

593
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:05.519
<v Speaker 9>a quarterbacks league. It's only become more so that way

594
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.799
<v Speaker 9>as the NFL has evolved into the juggernaut that it

595
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 9>is today. You know, playing with the late great Steve

596
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 9>McNair like you did, But the Texans didn't have that guy.

597
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:18.119
<v Speaker 9>They hoped it was David Carr and then you know,

598
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:20.960
<v Speaker 9>eventually it became Matt Shaw, but that didn't have staying power.

599
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 9>And obviously the Titans had been in search of that guy.

600
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:29.400
<v Speaker 9>Ryan Tannehill having some nice seasons, but I don't think

601
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 9>anybody would confuse anybody else in recent history of either

602
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:36.759
<v Speaker 9>of these teams with McNair for the Titans, and now

603
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:37.680
<v Speaker 9>I think what CJ.

604
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.720
<v Speaker 8>Shroud is becoming for the Houston Texans.

605
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 6>No, I think the Titans have had.

606
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:50.000
<v Speaker 7>They've had a bad sort of bad luck in regards

607
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 7>to quarterbacks. Besides Steve McNair, they haven't been able to

608
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 7>develop a franchise quarterback outside of Steed. They thought they

609
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.799
<v Speaker 7>had one with Marcus Mariota. It didn't work. They thought

610
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.160
<v Speaker 7>they had it prior to that with Vince Young, it

611
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:08.880
<v Speaker 7>didn't work out. Jake Locker, it didn't work out. You

612
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 7>can go down the list of quarterbacks that the Titans

613
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.880
<v Speaker 7>have drafted after Steve and it seemed it didn't work

614
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 7>out for whatever reason. And you can say some of

615
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.400
<v Speaker 7>that for the Houston Texans. And then you mentioned the

616
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.599
<v Speaker 7>name David Carr. I think they destroyed him with the

617
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 7>offensive line issues that they had. And then Matt Shab

618
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 7>I was there with Matt for you know, I think

619
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 7>the six games towards the end of that twenty ten season,

620
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 7>I believe, and I thought Matt Shaw was a really

621
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.599
<v Speaker 7>good quarterback. But besides that, they haven't been able to

622
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 7>Ann obviously we know the big elephant in the room,

623
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 7>and I don't even want to go down that road.

624
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 7>But besides that, they really hadn't been able to, you know,

625
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 7>develop and keep a quarterback.

626
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 6>But it seems like they have one now in c. J. Stroud.

627
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I know, and I'm obviously we're talking to Derek

628
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 9>Mason of One of two five the Fan in Nashville

629
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 9>and obviously a former player for both of these clubs.

630
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 9>Most of the time in Nashville and so many times

631
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<v Speaker 9>it does come down to getting that franchise quarterback.

632
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<v Speaker 8>Do you think that CJ. Stroud?

633
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.599
<v Speaker 9>I know some people are still maybe holding out, like

634
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 9>I don't know if he's a franchise quarterback.

635
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 8>Yet that number is very, very small.

636
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 9>Most people here in town are like, yeah, we saw

637
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 9>last season.

638
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 8>It's not a fluke.

639
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 9>But on the flip side of that, he has not

640
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.000
<v Speaker 9>had the you know, the bust out of the gate.

641
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.039
<v Speaker 9>He has not had the prolific necessarily numbers that he

642
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:40.839
<v Speaker 9>did a year ago, and a lot of that has

643
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 9>gone back, in my opinion, to the offensive line play.

644
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 9>It's not completely on that line because CJ has made

645
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.279
<v Speaker 9>a lot more mistakes I think already this year than

646
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 9>he did last years as opposed to the interceptions that

647
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:54.079
<v Speaker 9>he didn't throw last year. But what do you think

648
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 9>of CJ. Stroud from the outside looking in? And there's

649
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 9>no question he's a franchise quarterback. It's just a matter

650
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:00.920
<v Speaker 9>of how much success he can have.

651
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 7>Well, I wish we were a draft and I tell

652
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:07.200
<v Speaker 7>you that how much I think about him. I wish

653
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 7>that the Titans were able to get in that you know,

654
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 7>number two spot and number one spot and.

655
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.680
<v Speaker 6>Being able to draft c J. Stroud.

656
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 7>And I know the Titans aren't the only team thinking

657
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 7>that they wish they had an opportunity to sign him.

658
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 6>But I mean, listen, the kid has everything that.

659
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:29.200
<v Speaker 7>You need to play at that position. Extremely smart quarterback.

660
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 7>IQ was off the boards. He's a pocket passer. He

661
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 7>can get outside the pocket, and he can't extend drives,

662
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.920
<v Speaker 7>but he's not looking to run. But he does all

663
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 7>the little things that you want a quarterback to be

664
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 7>able to go out there and and and do and

665
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.240
<v Speaker 7>and Like I said, I think they had a really

666
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 7>good not just quarterback, but I think they have a

667
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 7>really good young nucleus on that team that coach Ryan

668
00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 7>can Can can build around, starting with CJ. Stroud and

669
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 7>then you know Will Anderson and Steing Lands I mentioned

670
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.039
<v Speaker 7>before some other guys on that team. But what happens

671
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 7>to a quarterback in the second year.

672
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 5>I believe.

673
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 7>I think defenses tend to they over scout you on

674
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.679
<v Speaker 7>the offseason and they try to pick up some of

675
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:18.039
<v Speaker 7>your tendencies and it tends to make it a little

676
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 7>bit harder until you adjust and figure out. And you

677
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.239
<v Speaker 7>got to understand he was working with a new wide

678
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 7>receiver that and digs that they got from Buffalo. Even

679
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 7>though their reports seemed to be really good, he still

680
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 7>was learning the offense. And then his best receiver is

681
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 7>number one receiver, Nico Collins goes down, so he and

682
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 7>now Nic goes back. So now they're starting to get

683
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.639
<v Speaker 7>a little bit healthy, healthier. Mixing is a beast in

684
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 7>the backfield, but they're starting to get a little bit healthier.

685
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:48.239
<v Speaker 7>And I think he's starting to figure things out. Listen,

686
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 7>He's only going to get better. That's what I believe.

687
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.119
<v Speaker 7>And as you continue to add guys around him, and

688
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 7>let's not forget about Tank Dell.

689
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:56.320
<v Speaker 6>I love that guy.

690
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 7>That's another guy that I wish the Titans would have

691
00:34:58.320 --> 00:34:59.559
<v Speaker 7>drafted but didn't.

692
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 6>But Dale is awesome.

693
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:05.480
<v Speaker 7>So you have a nucleus of receivers that you were

694
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:10.119
<v Speaker 7>getting used to once again because Nico was injured and

695
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 7>Kank Dale had been injured you know a lot last year,

696
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 7>and he's been healthy this year. But I think those

697
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 7>things that you are not seeing, those that explosive game

698
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 7>that he had last year, I think you starting to

699
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 7>see him as the season started to wind out.

700
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 9>Talking to Derek Mason of one of two five the

701
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.639
<v Speaker 9>fan in Nashville, Derek, when you talk about the quarterback

702
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 9>there in Tennessee, you know, Will Levis taken a little

703
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 9>bit later and has shown, you know, flashes, He's obviously

704
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.280
<v Speaker 9>he'll tell you he's got the arm. Is he a

705
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 9>guy that you truly think the Titans can build around?

706
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 9>I know last season these two teams got together. I mean,

707
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 9>he went through it, and I think he's had a

708
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.239
<v Speaker 9>little bit better protection this year, but he's had some

709
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 9>injury concerns.

710
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 8>And that kind of thing.

711
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 9>It's the way that that quarterback position can go in

712
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.280
<v Speaker 9>this league, especially when you're going through kind of a

713
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 9>rough time. Is he, though, the guy that they can

714
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:04.840
<v Speaker 9>point to at the quarterback position or is the jury

715
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.639
<v Speaker 9>still out or what are you personally seeing with a

716
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:09.000
<v Speaker 9>guy like like Will Lovis.

717
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 10>I think the jury is still out on him, you know,

718
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 10>because what we saw last year for the brief time

719
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.079
<v Speaker 10>that he played, because he was able to come in

720
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:21.639
<v Speaker 10>after Ryan Tanneo got injured.

721
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 6>He played four games.

722
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 7>First game was outstanding, four touchdowns. He looked like an

723
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 7>elite quarterback. But we knew eventually that was going to

724
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.800
<v Speaker 7>come back down to earth because at thinking that game

725
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:34.679
<v Speaker 7>Atlanta played a lot of men the man and they

726
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 7>showed the defense to him so he didn't have to read.

727
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.599
<v Speaker 7>And then he had a couple other games that were

728
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 7>there were okay games, but this season he came and

729
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 7>do it and it just seemed like he took a

730
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:50.519
<v Speaker 7>step back, and the fan base has been on him,

731
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:56.719
<v Speaker 7>and rightfully so, because he has accounted for a lot

732
00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 7>of the things or mistakes that were happening in the

733
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 7>first half of the season with his turnovers and him

734
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.599
<v Speaker 7>being careless with the football. So I think infra Will

735
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 7>was sort of times that he got hurt and had

736
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 7>to sit him for a couple of weeks, and he

737
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.920
<v Speaker 7>was able to slow the game down, watch it and

738
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.599
<v Speaker 7>then sort of PROTENSI from there. He came back in

739
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.320
<v Speaker 7>two weeks ago, he looked better. He came back in

740
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:23.960
<v Speaker 7>the week after, which was last week, he looked at

741
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:26.159
<v Speaker 7>that bit better than what he did the week coming

742
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 7>off the injury. So we're just hoping that he can

743
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 7>continue to progress as a as a quarterback end and

744
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.119
<v Speaker 7>not do those things that are going to lose you games.

745
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 7>And for the last two games he's been playing, he's

746
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:41.920
<v Speaker 7>been playing not losing football. It hasn't not it hasn't

747
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 7>necessarily been winning football.

748
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 6>Because they had won those games.

749
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 7>But he hasn't done the things in the last two

750
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 7>games that he did in the previous four or five

751
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 7>games that the fan base was really hard on him for.

752
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 6>Even a head coach.

753
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.239
<v Speaker 7>Sort of had a few things to say about a

754
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.199
<v Speaker 7>few of those games that he played. But it seems

755
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Speaker 7>like he's learning and you know, but jury is still

756
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.559
<v Speaker 7>out on him. It's question mark, but the tis need

757
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.159
<v Speaker 7>to find out before the season ends, or as the

758
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Speaker 7>season's ending, whether he can be a franchise quarterback or not.

759
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.280
<v Speaker 9>We're talking to Derek Mason of one O two five

760
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 9>the Game. I apologize I was giving the name of

761
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.599
<v Speaker 9>your station wrong this entire time. That's my fault in

762
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:26.199
<v Speaker 9>Nashville there, But just to kind of look both inside

763
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 9>the division and a little bit outside at the same time,

764
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 9>and I'll explain. Daniel Jones got released by the Giants,

765
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:35.199
<v Speaker 9>as you're well aware, and it comes after he was

766
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.800
<v Speaker 9>signed to an extension. I first of all your thoughts

767
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.039
<v Speaker 9>on that, because it's it's mildly shocking, not from the

768
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 9>standpoint of you know, I don't think Daniel Jones was

769
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:45.239
<v Speaker 9>a very good quarterback.

770
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:46.960
<v Speaker 8>For the Giants save for that one season.

771
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 9>But also you're looking in the division and you've got

772
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.320
<v Speaker 9>Trevor Lawrence and I know this might seem like blasphemy

773
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:58.920
<v Speaker 9>to say in maybe Jacksonville, but they just extended this

774
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 9>guy and he is His trajectory to me, has steadily

775
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.000
<v Speaker 9>declined since his first year in the league.

776
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 8>Is there a scenario where you.

777
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:10.159
<v Speaker 9>Could see that Jacksonville Jaguars doing the same thing that

778
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:11.800
<v Speaker 9>the Giants just did with Daniel Jones.

779
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.880
<v Speaker 7>It would be hard press for me to to to

780
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:25.800
<v Speaker 7>believe that Jacksonville will go to that extent or go

781
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.760
<v Speaker 7>to that limp to cut a guy that they drafted

782
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.639
<v Speaker 7>first overall, that they just paid a lot of money

783
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 7>to and then eventually cut him the next following season.

784
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.320
<v Speaker 7>I think don Trevor Lawrence show has shown more than

785
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 7>Daniel Jones has shown. He's been inconsistent, yes, but I

786
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 7>think he has shown that Hey, listen, you know, you

787
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.360
<v Speaker 7>continue to build around and continue to get him playmakers

788
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 7>and he will be Okay, you got to understand he

789
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 7>he he's ushering in two two new wide receivers. I

790
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.480
<v Speaker 7>believe this season, and I don't. I'm not sure if

791
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 7>he's really got that system that Doug Peterson is teaching

792
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 7>down Pat. I don't think he because he's still making

793
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 7>some of those sort of rookie mistakes. It's like he's

794
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 7>not seen certain things or he's careless with the football.

795
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 7>But honestly, he was like that at Clemson that the

796
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:21.760
<v Speaker 7>last year he was a lot careless with the football

797
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 7>than he was in previous years. So you know, I

798
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:28.320
<v Speaker 7>don't think that they would go to the limb that

799
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:35.360
<v Speaker 7>the Giants did because Daniel Jones was just a bad quarterback.

800
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:39.679
<v Speaker 7>And besides that five or six game stint heading into

801
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.199
<v Speaker 7>the playoffs and him winning the playoff game, I don't

802
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.840
<v Speaker 7>think he showed anything outside of that that he could

803
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:48.480
<v Speaker 7>be a starter in this league. But listen, just like

804
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:51.920
<v Speaker 7>a lot of other teams out there, if you think

805
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.360
<v Speaker 7>you have a guy, you got to pay him the

806
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 7>money because if you don't, you're going to start all

807
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 7>over again. Well, the Giants got to start all over again,

808
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.039
<v Speaker 7>even after paying.

809
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 6>Daniel Jones the money that they paid them.

810
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 7>But I can't see Jacksonville they get rid of Doug

811
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.760
<v Speaker 7>Peterson before they move on from Treva Lawrence.

812
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:12.440
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the coach usually goes first, then the quarterback by

813
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 9>the way, I think the Giants had the guy. It's

814
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 9>just his name was Saquon Barkley and they didn't pay him.

815
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and that right there should get everybody fired because

816
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 7>we saw it in real basically, in real time, how

817
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 7>the discussions went in regards to whether it's going to

818
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 7>be Daniel Jones or Sakuon Barkley. And then you keep

819
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 7>Daniel Jones as Saquon goals to the Eagles the next

820
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.400
<v Speaker 7>following year, and look at what he's doing.

821
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.599
<v Speaker 6>And now you've cut Daniel Jones.

822
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.199
<v Speaker 7>I mean, that's a lot of egg on your face,

823
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:42.000
<v Speaker 7>I might say, yeah.

824
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 9>And he seemed motivated when the Eagles played the Giants

825
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:46.559
<v Speaker 9>earlier this year.

826
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I believe he was.

827
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:51.599
<v Speaker 8>Well, Derek, we appreciate the time. Good conversation.

828
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 9>We're gonna have to catch up again, maybe later on

829
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.000
<v Speaker 9>in the year when these two teams get together in Nashville.

830
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:58.400
<v Speaker 9>Derek Mason of one or two the game or one

831
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:00.719
<v Speaker 9>of two five the game in Nashville, pre shad the time, man,

832
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 9>and we'll talk to.

833
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.079
<v Speaker 6>You soon, Oh anytime, Adam, Thank a lot.

834
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 4>All right, there you go, Derek Mason with us yesterday

835
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:11.000
<v Speaker 4>on the A team. You're miss any that download the

836
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:15.239
<v Speaker 4>free iHeartRadio app and you can catch that entire interview.

837
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 4>All right, coming up next, wrapping up the Sexans conversation

838
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 4>here in our one, because something was said this week

839
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 4>that I think on the surface people probably would say, yeah, Okay,

840
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 4>we'll believe it when we see it, but maybe there

841
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.559
<v Speaker 4>is reason to believe when this is being said about

842
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 4>this Texans position group. We'll talk about that on the

843
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 4>other side as we wrap up our one here on

844
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Space City Saturday. Dan Matthews here with you until noon

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<v Speaker 4>on your home of the Astros and the Rockets, Sports

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<v Speaker 4>Talk seven ninety Space City Saturday. Dan Matthews here with

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<v Speaker 4>you until noon. Talked about a little bit earlier. Got

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of not only college football, but just sports

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<v Speaker 4>action in general coming your way here either on Sports

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<v Speaker 4>Talk seven ninety today or on our I heeart a

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<v Speaker 4>Houston family of radio stations. Of course, one thirty that's

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<v Speaker 4>when Craig Way and the crew get going for Texas

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<v Speaker 4>and Kentucky football.

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<v Speaker 5>Five o'clock over on KPRC nine to fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>That's gonna be the Cougars and the Baylor Bears over

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<v Speaker 4>on KPRC nine to fifty five. O'clock here on at

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<v Speaker 4>Sports Talk seven to ninety gonna be LSU and Vanderbilt,

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<v Speaker 4>and then six o'clock Rockets launch pad gets going over

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<v Speaker 4>on news radio seven forty KTRH. So Matt Thomas and

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<v Speaker 4>Adam Wexler are going to be on seven forty tonight

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<v Speaker 4>for the Rockets and the Blazers seven o'clock tip over

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<v Speaker 4>at Toyota Center.

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<v Speaker 5>Had a chance to get inside the building last night.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of fun on the floor and just a

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<v Speaker 4>fun atmosphere in there last night. So I think all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, Rocket's starting to get a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of the buzz amongst the fan base again. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>good to see. Maybe we'll talk about that here coming

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<v Speaker 4>up in our two. But like I said, you know

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<v Speaker 4>here in our one, want to wrap up the Texans

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<v Speaker 4>conversation here.

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<v Speaker 5>If you want to jump aboard, please do so.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone three two one two five seven ninety once to

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<v Speaker 4>ge get someone three two one two five seven nine zero.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Texans made an offensive line switch on the uh,

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<v Speaker 4>excuse me in the Detroit Lions game. That was when

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<v Speaker 4>they decided what Jared Patterson are coming back from the concussion,

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<v Speaker 4>put him at center kicked you scrugs over to left

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<v Speaker 4>guard and.

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<v Speaker 5>All in all, pretty good results so far.

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<v Speaker 4>Last week, really good results, especially running the football with

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<v Speaker 4>what Joe Mixon was able to do against the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 4>But even before that too as well, you showed some

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<v Speaker 4>good things in terms of being able to protect CJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Stroud as he still got hit, he still got sacked

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<v Speaker 4>against Detroit. You weren't able to run the football as well,

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<v Speaker 4>But if nothing else, it's showing you that at least

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<v Speaker 4>progress is being made on that side of the ball

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<v Speaker 4>and with that position group. And earlier this week, Texas

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<v Speaker 4>offensive coordinator Bobby Slowick talked about that very thing. He says, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>let's be honest here, through two weeks, it looks like

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<v Speaker 4>the offensive line shift has actually worked.

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<v Speaker 11>I would say Juice having a lot of football under

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<v Speaker 11>his belt, in particular at center and then moving out

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<v Speaker 11>to guard like really has enabled him to have a

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<v Speaker 11>ton of command.

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<v Speaker 8>And awareness of what's going.

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<v Speaker 11>On because he was running the show not too long ago,

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<v Speaker 11>and now he's just as aware of all the different

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<v Speaker 11>looks and things that could happen. But now he's at

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<v Speaker 11>a position that doesn't necessarily need to make the calls,

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<v Speaker 11>so he's just able to take in more, which has

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<v Speaker 11>been really cool to see. Now there's been a process

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<v Speaker 11>going from guard from center. It's different still some of

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<v Speaker 11>the ways he has to approach the run game, the

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<v Speaker 11>past game and the sets is a little different. He's

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<v Speaker 11>done a really good job growing from the first week

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<v Speaker 11>there to the second week there, and we'll just work

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<v Speaker 11>to continue that. And then JP has absolutely owned all

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<v Speaker 11>the controllables, like everything you could ask for. As far

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<v Speaker 11>as the center goes, he's knocked it out of the park.

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<v Speaker 11>He's been great on communication, he's been great on the sidelines,

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<v Speaker 11>he's been great talking to the other guys out on

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<v Speaker 11>the field. And then he's really grown as far as

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<v Speaker 11>his play style. You know, last year we always thought

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<v Speaker 11>he was solid in protection. We were kind of growing

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<v Speaker 11>into the run game and that has not been an

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<v Speaker 11>issue for him like whatsoever so far this year, which

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<v Speaker 11>is testing it to him and the work he's put in.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Texans, i mean, let's call it what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think you've gotten some good things on

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<v Speaker 4>the offensive line. I mean, I understand people's frustration with

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<v Speaker 4>Laramie Tunzel, and trust me, I share the same frustration.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the very first play of the game. I

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<v Speaker 4>think we all as soon as the penalty announcement was

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<v Speaker 4>illegal man downfield number seventy eight, you were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>come on, man, like if you know the play, like

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<v Speaker 4>what are you doing? And you know, of course it

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<v Speaker 4>was flagged, so it's a penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>It's frustrating because he's had that, He's had the false starts,

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<v Speaker 4>he's had the illegal formation whatever it might be, legal shifts,

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<v Speaker 4>all of those different types of things that you know

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<v Speaker 4>you've had to endure at times with Laramie Tunsil. I

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<v Speaker 4>like Ross villar Yal's line about pre snap he's not

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<v Speaker 4>great in the play, although that one withstanding, he's usually

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<v Speaker 4>pretty darn good.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you know you make the.

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<v Speaker 4>Move of you had a really just you had a

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<v Speaker 4>hole there at left guard for the longest time. With

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<v Speaker 4>Kenyan Green, I don't know necessarily if it's he just

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<v Speaker 4>hasn't really been able to stay healthy and really be

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<v Speaker 4>able to develop there at the left guard spot. But

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<v Speaker 4>he's not been good, and of course he's done for

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<v Speaker 4>the season. You have Juice Scrugs there now, and I

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<v Speaker 4>thought that Scruggs was doing some good things at the

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<v Speaker 4>center spot, but obviously too, I think they looked at

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<v Speaker 4>it and said, all right, well, we've got two different

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<v Speaker 4>guys that could snap the football and be able to,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, diagnose the checks and everything up front and

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<v Speaker 4>do all those different types of things we want to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's have Jared Patterson at center, and let's move Jew

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<v Speaker 4>Scrugs over to left guard. Titus Howard, I mean, just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like Laramie Tunsil, some good, some not so great,

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<v Speaker 4>but for the most part, he's been pretty good over

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<v Speaker 4>there at the right guard spot.

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<v Speaker 5>And then Shaq Mason.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that, you know, you know, Wex has talked

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<v Speaker 4>about how you know, he hasn't necessarily looked the way

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<v Speaker 4>that he did when he was with the New England

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<v Speaker 4>Patriots are at the beginning with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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<v Speaker 4>But for the most part, I don't think he's necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>been an issue for you. But the whole thing with

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<v Speaker 4>the offensive line is you're just trying to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to be confident in the group of five that you have,

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<v Speaker 4>and not only be confident, but them be confident.

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<v Speaker 5>In each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Where they're working in Unison, they're becoming one and they

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<v Speaker 4>are able to be able to take on twists and stunts,

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<v Speaker 4>and they are able to take pride in run blocking

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<v Speaker 4>and also to being able to protect your quarterback. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's something at least the latter part of that equation,

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<v Speaker 4>they've done pretty decently for the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, CJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Stroud has still taken his hits, but at least the

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<v Speaker 4>frequency has been down.

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<v Speaker 5>That's good in that regard.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you're able to start to own the line

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<v Speaker 4>of scrimmage when it comes to the run game, that's again.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we talked about finishing in the second half.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how you finish in the second half. You're able

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<v Speaker 4>to have that group moving guys off the ball and

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<v Speaker 4>being able to pick up three four yards when you

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<v Speaker 4>need to be able to get those yards in short

985
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<v Speaker 4>yarded situations.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what Texans are trying to do. All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Our one is in the books, Our two is coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna shift over to a little bit of Astro's

989
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<v Speaker 4>conversation because Astros GM Dana Brown joined the joined Astro

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<v Speaker 4>line earlier this week with Todd Kallis and Steve Sparks.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll let you hear a little bit of what he

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<v Speaker 4>had to say, not only about Alex Bregman, but the

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<v Speaker 4>team as a whole, as we will have that here

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<v Speaker 4>to start the eleven o'clock hour Here on Space City Saturday,

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Matthews here with you for another hour on your

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<v Speaker 4>home of the Astros in the Rockets, Sports Talk seven

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<v Speaker 4>to ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome aboard, Welcome to another Space City Saturday on Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Talk seven ninety Dad Matthews Live and local h town

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<v Speaker 1>breakdown of the world that matters to you, the Houston

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<v Speaker 1>sports world.

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<v Speaker 3>All these great Houston fans here. We love you all,

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<v Speaker 3>so finish up on that to do list.

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<v Speaker 1>Flute up the cooler because you can't drink in talk

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<v Speaker 1>sports all day if you don't start.

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<v Speaker 3>Now bear me the eight. This is Space City Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>That's insane. Here's seven nineties Dan Matthews, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Away we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Here for hour two on Space City Saturday. Dan Matthews

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<v Speaker 4>here with you on the home of the Astros and

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<v Speaker 4>the Rockets Sports Talk seven ninety all Texans in the

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<v Speaker 4>first hour of the show, as we had Derek Mason

1013
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<v Speaker 4>on yesterday with us on the eight team. If you

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<v Speaker 4>missed that again, download the free iHeartRadio app and you

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<v Speaker 4>can go and catch that interview. But earlier this week

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<v Speaker 4>we had an episode of Astroline and Todd Kallis and

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<v Speaker 4>Steve Sparks were joined by Astros GM Dana Brown. And

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<v Speaker 4>of course, anytime Dana Brown is in front of a

1019
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<v Speaker 4>live or recorded microphone, until we know exactly what happens

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<v Speaker 4>with Alex Bregman this offseason, he's going to be asked

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<v Speaker 4>about number two. And that is how their conversation started

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<v Speaker 4>when they had the Astros GM on and one of

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<v Speaker 4>the things that they asked him was what does this

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<v Speaker 4>team look like if Alex Bregman does leave? And what

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<v Speaker 4>do they look like if you guys are able to

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<v Speaker 4>keep them?

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, he's done so many good things here. We'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to have him back. You know, I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>still a good club, you know, if he decides to walk,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, ultimately, I think we're a little better

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<v Speaker 2>club if he's he's still around, and so hopefully we

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<v Speaker 2>can get him done through our multiple conversations that we're

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<v Speaker 2>having with Bores.

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<v Speaker 4>So, I mean, you've heard the tenor of Dana Brown's

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<v Speaker 4>optimism when he was at the GM meetings being asked

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<v Speaker 4>about you know, Hey, do you guys feel good about it?

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<v Speaker 5>He's like, yeah, we do.

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<v Speaker 4>And if there's one thing that you can glean from

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<v Speaker 4>Dana Brown whenever he has joined us here on Sports

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<v Speaker 4>Talk seven ninety or just whenever he does interviews, Dana

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<v Speaker 4>as Chandler Rome put, it is almost too transparent, which

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<v Speaker 4>you don't get a ton of in any sport, but

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<v Speaker 4>baseball two as well. I mean, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>show your cards. You don't want to you know, really,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, lead on too much in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of how the situation necessarily is that you ask Dana

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<v Speaker 4>a direct question, you'll get a direct response from him.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know that was one in San Antonio at

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<v Speaker 4>the GM meetings. He was talking about his optimism for

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<v Speaker 4>being able to bring him back, but also too, he's

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<v Speaker 4>not wrong in what he said that this is a team.

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<v Speaker 4>You heard players like Jose Altuve and Hunter Brown and

1054
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<v Speaker 4>other players talk about just how important he is in

1055
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:02.280
<v Speaker 4>that clubhouse. I mean talk about Hunter Brown and also

1056
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:03.840
<v Speaker 4>too a guy that he is.

1057
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:05.119
<v Speaker 5>Currently working out with.

1058
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:08.079
<v Speaker 4>I saw if you follow Alex Bregman on social media

1059
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:12.199
<v Speaker 4>at one of those training centers out in Arizona and

1060
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Taylor Scott working out with them and Taylor Scott's I mean,

1061
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:17.679
<v Speaker 4>I think we played it for you when he was

1062
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:21.079
<v Speaker 4>on with Rob Friedman, the Pitching Ninja, of what Alex

1063
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:24.079
<v Speaker 4>Bregman meant to him of talking about Yeah, like, you know,

1064
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:26.400
<v Speaker 4>we get our scouting reports, but he has his own

1065
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.800
<v Speaker 4>scouting reports and he'll go over them with us. Of Hey,

1066
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:33.320
<v Speaker 4>this guy, you know is susceptible to the inside fastball,

1067
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:36.159
<v Speaker 4>this guy will chase the outside slider. All those different

1068
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.280
<v Speaker 4>types of things. He'd go over it with his guys.

1069
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:41.440
<v Speaker 4>And it's also too. I don't know if Bregman is

1070
00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:45.440
<v Speaker 4>necessarily a vocal leader in the clubhouse, but I think

1071
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.519
<v Speaker 4>that probably more than speaking about it, he is about it.

1072
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:51.960
<v Speaker 4>This is a guy that continuously puts in the work.

1073
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.719
<v Speaker 4>This is the guy that I mean, we'll let you

1074
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.760
<v Speaker 4>know about it on social media. Of he's in the cage,

1075
00:53:57.840 --> 00:53:59.960
<v Speaker 4>he's working out, he's doing all these different types of things.

1076
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:03.719
<v Speaker 4>He's all about baseball. I mean, remember too, what was

1077
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:05.880
<v Speaker 4>the word about Alex Bregman when he was coming out

1078
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:09.280
<v Speaker 4>of LSU that they had to give him his own

1079
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:11.480
<v Speaker 4>key card to be able to get into the facility

1080
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:14.639
<v Speaker 4>because the equipment manager or whoever it is got tired

1081
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:17.119
<v Speaker 4>of coming up there at midnight to let him in

1082
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:18.840
<v Speaker 4>to the batting cage, so we go hit off the

1083
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.360
<v Speaker 4>iron mic. I mean, this is somebody who is just

1084
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:23.199
<v Speaker 4>continuously about the game.

1085
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:24.039
<v Speaker 5>Man.

1086
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:28.440
<v Speaker 4>That usually translates to people wanting to run alongside you

1087
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 4>and you don't want you to lead their team. And

1088
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.440
<v Speaker 4>that's what Alex Bregman has been able to do throughout

1089
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:38.199
<v Speaker 4>his career. Let's continue with more from Dana Brown. And

1090
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.239
<v Speaker 4>of course with the off season. You know, we had

1091
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Chandler Rome in for Wex with AC a couple of

1092
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:48.079
<v Speaker 4>weeks ago, and he's maintained all along that if the

1093
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:51.159
<v Speaker 4>Astros bring back Alex Brugman, that is the splash, like

1094
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:54.199
<v Speaker 4>that is the huge move that they are going to make.

1095
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:57.599
<v Speaker 4>And you know, don't expect for them to necessarily, you know,

1096
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.920
<v Speaker 4>go headlong for any other free agent out there. I mean,

1097
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:04.840
<v Speaker 4>there'll be probably some lower tier signings out there, and

1098
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.119
<v Speaker 4>that's you know, signings that Dana Brown I think has

1099
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:09.360
<v Speaker 4>shown you he's been pretty good at during his time

1100
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 4>with the Astros. But in terms of the rest of

1101
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:16.400
<v Speaker 4>the off season, Dana Brown asked if Bregman determines the

1102
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:19.039
<v Speaker 4>tenor of the way that the Astros build up their

1103
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:20.239
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five roster.

1104
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:24.119
<v Speaker 2>No, not really, because you know, once we knew that

1105
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:26.320
<v Speaker 2>he became a free agent, you know, we started to

1106
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:30.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, look at other you know, their basement that

1107
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:33.199
<v Speaker 2>may be available, other fits. I mean, you know, of

1108
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:36.679
<v Speaker 2>course we've talked to Boris, you know, constantly to get

1109
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Alex done. So we'd rather for him to be around,

1110
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:42.480
<v Speaker 2>but we could just keep him here. That would be

1111
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, more exciting for us.

1112
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:44.840
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

1113
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 2>But you know we have to go into this, you know,

1114
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 2>just as he's a free agent. We have to look

1115
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:53.400
<v Speaker 2>as if he's gonna leave. But if he comes back,

1116
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:54.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like icing on a cake.

1117
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:57.360
<v Speaker 5>And no doubt about it.

1118
00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:59.360
<v Speaker 4>So, I mean, you know, I think I can already

1119
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.360
<v Speaker 4>guess how well most of you will feel if indeed

1120
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.440
<v Speaker 4>we are able to put out a post on our

1121
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:09.039
<v Speaker 4>social media pages or even announce it on air, if

1122
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:11.679
<v Speaker 4>indeed the news comes down either through Chandler or for

1123
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 4>Brian McTaggart or Matt Kawahara, or even from the National

1124
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 4>writers of if Jeff Passen or Ken Rosenthal reports the

1125
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Astros and Alex Bregman are in agreement on a new

1126
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:25.360
<v Speaker 4>contract and I know that there's going to be tons

1127
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:28.199
<v Speaker 4>of people who are excited because well, tons of us

1128
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:31.760
<v Speaker 4>have number two Alex Bregman jerseys. We want to continue

1129
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.840
<v Speaker 4>to wear number two Alex Bregman jerseys. But you also

1130
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:40.000
<v Speaker 4>have to remember that Dana has familiarity in situations like this,

1131
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:42.119
<v Speaker 4>and I want to take you back to when Dana

1132
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:44.760
<v Speaker 4>was the scouting director for the Braves and when he

1133
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 4>was an assistant GM there with alex Anthopolis. I mean,

1134
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.039
<v Speaker 4>the Braves went through this with Freddie Freeman and it

1135
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.719
<v Speaker 4>was a situation where he went to free agency and

1136
00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:59.559
<v Speaker 4>the uncertainty of free agency. This is again also to

1137
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:03.719
<v Speaker 4>come out of the lockout where it was alex Anthopolis

1138
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.639
<v Speaker 4>kind of come into the determination of we can't sit

1139
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:09.599
<v Speaker 4>and wait. Someone's going to trade for Matt Olson. Someone

1140
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:12.199
<v Speaker 4>is going to try to upgrade at first base, and

1141
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:14.559
<v Speaker 4>if we have an opportunity to be able to do that,

1142
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:16.639
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's the old bird in the hand is

1143
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:19.159
<v Speaker 4>worth two in the bush kind of scenario right there.

1144
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:21.239
<v Speaker 4>And that's what they decided to do. They decided to

1145
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.559
<v Speaker 4>go younger. Is he as good as Freddie Freeman? No,

1146
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 4>he's not. But you also have to wonder kind of

1147
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:28.760
<v Speaker 4>like what you know, Dana Brown said, and one of

1148
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:31.760
<v Speaker 4>those two cuts right there of being prepared for maybe

1149
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:34.280
<v Speaker 4>not having Alex Brugman. I guarantee you that scenario is

1150
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:37.280
<v Speaker 4>being played out right now. They're talking about all right, hey,

1151
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 4>let's continue to have our discussions with Scott Boris. Let's

1152
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:43.519
<v Speaker 4>continue with the intention of bringing Alex Brugman back. But

1153
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.440
<v Speaker 4>don't be surprised if it comes to a scenario where

1154
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Dana Brown, if he is approached with a possible trade

1155
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:53.679
<v Speaker 4>scenario that works out for the Astros and maybe they

1156
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:56.760
<v Speaker 4>can be able to if that player is, you know,

1157
00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.119
<v Speaker 4>a year or two left on their contract, you sign

1158
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:02.000
<v Speaker 4>them to a long term extension for cheaper money than

1159
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:04.199
<v Speaker 4>it would take for Alex Bregman. I would not be

1160
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:08.400
<v Speaker 4>surprised if he runs that playbook either, because again, you

1161
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:11.079
<v Speaker 4>want to be able to shore up a very important

1162
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.440
<v Speaker 4>position on the field, and you want to be able

1163
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.480
<v Speaker 4>to know that you have some certain certainty instability over

1164
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:19.079
<v Speaker 4>at that spot. I mean, I throughout the scenario. The

1165
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:21.239
<v Speaker 4>other day, I know that there's the report that the

1166
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.280
<v Speaker 4>Astros have interest in Willia Domas over at third base.

1167
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:27.239
<v Speaker 4>Is he as good defensively as Bregman over at third.

1168
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.559
<v Speaker 4>Probably not, but they're probably pretty comparable. When it comes

1169
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 4>to the bats, the Damas and Bregman pretty similar power numbers,

1170
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:37.199
<v Speaker 4>and he's a guy that can get on base. All

1171
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.440
<v Speaker 4>those different types of things you hear about. But I

1172
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:42.239
<v Speaker 4>throw out a scenario of Okay, maybe you don't have

1173
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:44.440
<v Speaker 4>to spend as much for a Damas and that kind

1174
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:46.440
<v Speaker 4>of frees you up over at first base. We'll get

1175
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 4>two plans for first base here in just a second.

1176
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:51.599
<v Speaker 4>But I know people have thrown out Christian Walker as

1177
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:55.000
<v Speaker 4>a possibility, and you know, Dana Brown did talk about

1178
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:57.400
<v Speaker 4>that the other day, of having John Singleton back and

1179
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.440
<v Speaker 4>maybe go in a platoon situation at first, which I

1180
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:02.280
<v Speaker 4>know on the surface a lot of you are not

1181
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:04.320
<v Speaker 4>a huge fan of. But you also have to remember,

1182
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:07.079
<v Speaker 4>you still have Josea Bray on the books. You still

1183
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:10.679
<v Speaker 4>have Rafael Montero on the books. Montero might be able

1184
00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:13.599
<v Speaker 4>to factor this season, but Brad you he's all gone.

1185
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:15.320
<v Speaker 5>It's not going to happen.

1186
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.440
<v Speaker 4>You can share all the videos you want of him

1187
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:20.559
<v Speaker 4>in the Puerto Rican Winter League. The Astros are done

1188
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:22.920
<v Speaker 4>with jose A Brady. It's not because of the guy

1189
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:26.360
<v Speaker 4>it's because of they just don't believe that he is

1190
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:29.039
<v Speaker 4>that guy anymore. And if they had any hint of

1191
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:32.880
<v Speaker 4>believing he could get back to being a somewhat productive player,

1192
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:35.719
<v Speaker 4>then he would not have been let go last season.

1193
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 5>So that's how that all played out.

1194
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:41.599
<v Speaker 4>But in terms of the twenty twenty five season, continuing

1195
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:45.440
<v Speaker 4>along with Dana Brown right here, one of the things that,

1196
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:47.840
<v Speaker 4>of course he talked about and one of the things

1197
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:50.599
<v Speaker 4>that was the storyline of the twenty twenty four season

1198
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:53.840
<v Speaker 4>was the rough start for the Astros, starting off zero

1199
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.440
<v Speaker 4>to four right out the gate twelve and twenty four,

1200
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.199
<v Speaker 4>all of those different types of things of having a

1201
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:02.840
<v Speaker 4>really really tough start to the season and Dana Brown

1202
01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:05.920
<v Speaker 4>talking about, you know, just really harping on the emphasis

1203
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.800
<v Speaker 4>of wanting to make sure that they get off to

1204
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:10.559
<v Speaker 4>a better start out of the gate here in twenty

1205
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:11.119
<v Speaker 4>twenty five.

1206
01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the big part is coming out of

1207
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:18.760
<v Speaker 2>spring training, guys, being ready to go, you know, getting

1208
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.960
<v Speaker 2>your yourself built up to the point where, look, I

1209
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:24.360
<v Speaker 2>gotta I gotta really try to stretch it.

1210
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:24.559
<v Speaker 7>You know.

1211
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 2>If I'm if I came out last year and I

1212
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:29.079
<v Speaker 2>was only going four innings and then I was turning

1213
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:31.599
<v Speaker 2>it over to the bullpen. I need to go five

1214
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 2>and six innings early on. I think we really have to,

1215
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:38.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, make a lot less mistakes. I know we

1216
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:41.199
<v Speaker 2>had a stretch there where our guys would get guys

1217
01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:43.159
<v Speaker 2>zero and two and they would make a bad pitch

1218
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the strike zone. Well, that leads to

1219
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:49.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, more at bats in that innings in that inning,

1220
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:51.320
<v Speaker 2>and then that you know, if you make an error,

1221
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:53.239
<v Speaker 2>and then it leads to even more at bats, right,

1222
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:56.480
<v Speaker 2>And so I think cutting down on those mistakes, whether

1223
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:59.320
<v Speaker 2>it's errors, whether it's bad pitches when you get you're

1224
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:02.559
<v Speaker 2>heading the camp now those kind of things. Just like

1225
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.639
<v Speaker 2>we just talked about base running, all those little things

1226
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:08.599
<v Speaker 2>early in the season, and I know these guys, you know,

1227
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:10.480
<v Speaker 2>you kind of have to get back in the groove.

1228
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I get it, but you know, coming out of spring training,

1229
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.519
<v Speaker 2>it's very important that you are doing the little things

1230
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:22.079
<v Speaker 2>right because you could shorten those games and instead of

1231
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.440
<v Speaker 2>linting in those games. And you know, we all know

1232
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.199
<v Speaker 2>that if you don't catch the baseball, you don't go

1233
01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:29.400
<v Speaker 2>home at night. If you make bad base running mistakes,

1234
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:32.360
<v Speaker 2>you you cut off your rallies and then your chance

1235
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:35.119
<v Speaker 2>to explode and get two, three, four runs in an inning,

1236
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and so that cricket number that you always look for.

1237
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:41.559
<v Speaker 2>And so I think ultimately doing all of these little

1238
01:01:41.559 --> 01:01:44.559
<v Speaker 2>things right will give up put us in better position

1239
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:48.559
<v Speaker 2>and win games shortened games, and you know, get a

1240
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:51.000
<v Speaker 2>little deeper with our winning streaks.

1241
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:54.639
<v Speaker 4>All Right, A couple of things that Dana Brown talked

1242
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:57.639
<v Speaker 4>about right there. Number one is, you know, just really

1243
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:00.239
<v Speaker 4>kind of being able. If you've heard me talk about

1244
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.199
<v Speaker 4>it before, cheating the angle. That's what the Astros have

1245
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:06.440
<v Speaker 4>been able to do during their championship runs. They've been

1246
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:10.639
<v Speaker 4>able to be an incredibly fundamentally sound team. I mean,

1247
01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:13.719
<v Speaker 4>I've mentioned it before, you know. I remember listening to

1248
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:17.480
<v Speaker 4>a podcast that Jake Arietta did after they won the

1249
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:20.800
<v Speaker 4>World Series with Barstool, and he had the line the

1250
01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Astros just don't lose, and his point was, they don't

1251
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:27.280
<v Speaker 4>beat themselves. They field the ball incredibly well, they hit

1252
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:29.639
<v Speaker 4>with runners in the scoring position, they run the bases

1253
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:32.440
<v Speaker 4>incredibly well. Those were things that the Astros have been

1254
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:34.679
<v Speaker 4>known for, and at times here in the last couple

1255
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:38.519
<v Speaker 4>of years, they've kind of started to miss the details

1256
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:41.280
<v Speaker 4>in some of those areas and that's why you've seen

1257
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:43.960
<v Speaker 4>the Astros not be as successful as they had been

1258
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:46.159
<v Speaker 4>during that seven year run of making it at least

1259
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:47.800
<v Speaker 4>to the Alcs the other part of.

1260
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<v Speaker 5>It as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he brings up the you know, a good

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01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:54.159
<v Speaker 4>point about their starting rotation last year. I mean, this

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01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:57.159
<v Speaker 4>was a group that was in shambles out of the gate.

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01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.320
<v Speaker 4>You didn't have Justin Berlander. You were hoping at some

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01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:03.440
<v Speaker 4>point to get Jose Orkeedy back. You wanted to see

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01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:05.920
<v Speaker 4>if maybe there was an opportunity somewhere down the road

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01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.400
<v Speaker 4>that Lance mccullors Junior could come back. Then you lose

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<v Speaker 4>both Christian, you know, I mean you lost Jose Orkety,

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01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:16.239
<v Speaker 4>but Christian Hoveer, you lose him to Tommy John and

1270
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:18.440
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna get him back in the middle of this season.

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01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:22.000
<v Speaker 4>And also to Luis Garcia of not being able to

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01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:24.840
<v Speaker 4>have him at all last year. And it did, you know,

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01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:28.880
<v Speaker 4>lend to being able to find out that Renel Blanco

1274
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:31.280
<v Speaker 4>could be a really good starter for you, but also

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01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:35.480
<v Speaker 4>too that Spencer Araghetti was somebody that could be counted

1276
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.800
<v Speaker 4>on in this rotation, and the same deal for Hunter

1277
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.719
<v Speaker 4>Brown as well. You going at you say, Kakuchi we'll

1278
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:44.519
<v Speaker 4>see what happens with him. As you know, obviously priority

1279
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:46.760
<v Speaker 4>number one is try to lock up Alex Bregman. But

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01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:49.679
<v Speaker 4>then after that, you know you're going to need to

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01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:53.440
<v Speaker 4>probably add a starter to this rotation and feel even

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01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:56.480
<v Speaker 4>better about that group heading into twenty twenty five than

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01:03:56.519 --> 01:03:58.320
<v Speaker 4>he did in twenty twenty four. I mean, I think

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01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:00.400
<v Speaker 4>coming out of spring training last year was kind of

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01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.880
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of g I hope, whereas this year

1286
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:05.000
<v Speaker 4>you'd like to have at least a little bit more

1287
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:08.599
<v Speaker 4>competition that if nothing else, maybe you could go a

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01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:11.280
<v Speaker 4>six man rotation out of the gate and feel good

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01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:13.840
<v Speaker 4>about being able to prolong some of those guys and

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01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.960
<v Speaker 4>keep them fresh for the home stretch of the season,

1291
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:19.559
<v Speaker 4>where getting off to a better start would help you

1292
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 4>in terms of not having to try and you know,

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01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:25.840
<v Speaker 4>play catch up the entire time. I mean, the Astros

1294
01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 4>were in pretty much a full sprint from May until

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01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:30.639
<v Speaker 4>the end of the season last year, and I think

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01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:32.679
<v Speaker 4>that's a little bit of why they ran out of

1297
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:34.719
<v Speaker 4>gas when it was all said and done. I mean,

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01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:38.400
<v Speaker 4>you were facing a young, hot Detroit Tigers team that

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01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:40.760
<v Speaker 4>to them, they kind of looked at it as, hey,

1300
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:42.719
<v Speaker 4>we're not even supposed to be here, let's make the

1301
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.440
<v Speaker 4>most of it, and they played loose, they played fast,

1302
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:47.320
<v Speaker 4>and they were able to beat you and the Astros.

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01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:49.679
<v Speaker 4>I think we're a little tired and obviously banged up

1304
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:53.199
<v Speaker 4>jury wise at that point as well, so hopefully all

1305
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:55.400
<v Speaker 4>of those things shake out a little bit better in

1306
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:59.400
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five. We're going to hold the plan for

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01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:02.599
<v Speaker 4>first base over to the next segment. We'll continue this conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want to react to anything that Dana Brown

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01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:07.320
<v Speaker 4>has said, you can do so some one three two

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<v Speaker 4>one two five seven ninety once again a sub one

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<v Speaker 4>three two one two five seven nine zero. We'll talk

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01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:15.840
<v Speaker 4>about that and more on the other side as we

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01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.760
<v Speaker 4>continue to roll along here on Space City Saturday. Dan

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01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:20.960
<v Speaker 4>Matthews here on your home of the Astros and the Rockets.

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01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:22.320
<v Speaker 4>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Space City Saturday.

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01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:39.360
<v Speaker 12>Fine Sports Talk seven ninety.

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01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Sports Talks seven ninety Space City Saturday, Dan Matthews here

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01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:45.519
<v Speaker 4>with you until noon. If you want to get in,

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01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:47.960
<v Speaker 4>you can do so. Someone three two one two five

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01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:50.679
<v Speaker 4>seven ninety one. Goin that su one three two one

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01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:52.760
<v Speaker 4>two five seven nine zero.

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01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:53.880
<v Speaker 5>Let's get right back to it.

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01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:58.519
<v Speaker 4>Dana Brown with Steve Sparks and Todd Kallis on Astro

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01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:01.119
<v Speaker 4>Line earlier this week, we've talked talked about Alex Bregman,

1326
01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:03.519
<v Speaker 4>We've talked about trying to be better at the start

1327
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:07.400
<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty five. In addition to Alex Bregman, and

1328
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:11.199
<v Speaker 4>also two throughout Yssea ka Kuchi, people maybe wanting to

1329
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:15.400
<v Speaker 4>see the lefty back with the Astros in twenty twenty

1330
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:19.360
<v Speaker 4>five and beyond. The other question mark with this team

1331
01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:22.519
<v Speaker 4>is first base. What do you do with that spot?

1332
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:27.400
<v Speaker 4>That was a position that really lacked in production last season.

1333
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:30.679
<v Speaker 4>You've got some good things at times from John Singleton,

1334
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:34.280
<v Speaker 4>but also too, I mean just really across the board,

1335
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:37.400
<v Speaker 4>that was a position that you needed more production and

1336
01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:39.480
<v Speaker 4>more consistency out of, I mean so much to the

1337
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:42.800
<v Speaker 4>point that the Astros were going with you know, Victor

1338
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.559
<v Speaker 4>Krattini over there at first base, something that at the

1339
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.199
<v Speaker 4>beginning of the season Joe Espada said they did not

1340
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.559
<v Speaker 4>plan on doing. But as it went along, I think

1341
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:55.000
<v Speaker 4>probably through meetings and everything else, they decided, well, we've

1342
01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:57.320
<v Speaker 4>got to have some sort of production there and if

1343
01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:59.760
<v Speaker 4>that's him, if that's you know, you've got him behind

1344
01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:02.800
<v Speaker 4>the play and you got JANR. Diaz over there at

1345
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:05.079
<v Speaker 4>first base. You've just got to be able to again

1346
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:08.320
<v Speaker 4>find some sort of production over there well with the

1347
01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:12.000
<v Speaker 4>first base position. Dana Brown asked about that spot and

1348
01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:15.360
<v Speaker 4>how the Astros, at least in the front office, are

1349
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.599
<v Speaker 4>going to go about trying to find some production at

1350
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:20.280
<v Speaker 4>first base in twenty twenty five.

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01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:22.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we can get a platoon bat.

1352
01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:26.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, we really like singing singleton versus right hand

1353
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and pitching. If we can get a platoon bat that

1354
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:31.320
<v Speaker 2>can hit against lefty, so it makes it a little

1355
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:34.920
<v Speaker 2>bit more difficult. You know, when he's he's facing a lefty.

1356
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Our lineup is weaker if he's out there and it's

1357
01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:41.639
<v Speaker 2>a left hand pitcher. So if there's something by a

1358
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.800
<v Speaker 2>way of trade that we can do to improve at

1359
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:48.760
<v Speaker 2>first base, we will also do that. But ultimately we

1360
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:50.440
<v Speaker 2>know we need to get a little bit better. And

1361
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:53.599
<v Speaker 2>and there's no secret, you know, the players know it

1362
01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:57.000
<v Speaker 2>that play first base, The coaching staff knows it, we

1363
01:07:57.039 --> 01:07:58.000
<v Speaker 2>know it in the front office.

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01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:01.719
<v Speaker 5>We can get better at first base. So there you go.

1365
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:04.519
<v Speaker 4>And you know that was also to thrown out the

1366
01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:08.280
<v Speaker 4>idea possibly of Christian Walker that does not sound like

1367
01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:10.280
<v Speaker 4>that is the way that the Astros will go at

1368
01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:12.960
<v Speaker 4>that spot. As a matter of fact, I would probably

1369
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:16.359
<v Speaker 4>guess from Dana's words right there that you can get

1370
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:19.279
<v Speaker 4>that out of your mind at this point, because it

1371
01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:21.359
<v Speaker 4>just doesn't seem like that's going to fit into what

1372
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:23.520
<v Speaker 4>the Astros want to do there. I mean, you're talking

1373
01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:27.319
<v Speaker 4>about where again he's talking about John Singleton against right

1374
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:28.079
<v Speaker 4>handed pitchings.

1375
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:29.680
<v Speaker 5>All right, Well, in that case.

1376
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:32.000
<v Speaker 4>The majority of starters in the league are right handers,

1377
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:34.960
<v Speaker 4>So that would probably mean that the majority of the

1378
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:36.840
<v Speaker 4>reps over there at first base are going to be

1379
01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:41.000
<v Speaker 4>taken by John Singleton. So if that's the case, then

1380
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:44.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, again he threw out possibility of a small trade.

1381
01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:47.039
<v Speaker 4>You go get somebody that can maybe be able to

1382
01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:49.359
<v Speaker 4>play that spot, who knows, maybe even be able to

1383
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:52.239
<v Speaker 4>play a little bit of outfield, or even be able

1384
01:08:52.279 --> 01:08:55.520
<v Speaker 4>to give you some reps over at third base as well.

1385
01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:58.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't necessarily know who that player is at this point,

1386
01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.000
<v Speaker 4>but again, it just really kind of seems like priority

1387
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:04.920
<v Speaker 4>number one is get Alex Bregman signed, or at least

1388
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.359
<v Speaker 4>try to get him. But if nothing else, be able

1389
01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:09.960
<v Speaker 4>to find a good middle of the order bat that

1390
01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:13.319
<v Speaker 4>can play third base. And go from there. And that's

1391
01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:15.560
<v Speaker 4>what it necessarily sounds like they are going to do.

1392
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:19.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's thrown out Zach Decenzo before he has

1393
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:23.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, talked about right there the possibility of a

1394
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:25.880
<v Speaker 4>trade of being able to add at that spot and

1395
01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:29.199
<v Speaker 4>somebody that is kind of a bench bat for you

1396
01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:32.079
<v Speaker 4>and somebody that you can count on in that regard.

1397
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:34.479
<v Speaker 4>So that's what it sounds like the Astros are going

1398
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:37.159
<v Speaker 4>to do in twenty twenty five. But I mean this

1399
01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:40.439
<v Speaker 4>was a lineup too in twenty twenty four that was

1400
01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:44.680
<v Speaker 4>really pretty unbalanced. I mean, when the when the top

1401
01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:47.359
<v Speaker 4>of the order was not hitting, that was bad news

1402
01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:49.960
<v Speaker 4>for the rest of the team. And I mean that's

1403
01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.319
<v Speaker 4>what you saw play out in the postseason last year.

1404
01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:55.359
<v Speaker 4>I Mean, you had a team that through two games

1405
01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:59.520
<v Speaker 4>of your postseason was only able to muster one extra

1406
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:01.920
<v Speaker 4>base hit and that was a ninth inning double by

1407
01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:05.560
<v Speaker 4>Jordan Alvarez. Aside from that, it was all singles out

1408
01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:07.319
<v Speaker 4>of that group. That's not how this team is.

1409
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:07.720
<v Speaker 5>Going to win.

1410
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:11.199
<v Speaker 4>This team has to be able to put up, you know,

1411
01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:13.960
<v Speaker 4>massive innings and be able to I mean, you know,

1412
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.199
<v Speaker 4>that was the thing I talked about all throughout last season,

1413
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.479
<v Speaker 4>where was the three run homer, Where where was the

1414
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:21.359
<v Speaker 4>huge extra base hit with runners in scoring position? All

1415
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:24.239
<v Speaker 4>of those different things. You saw singles and solo home

1416
01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:25.159
<v Speaker 4>runs for much.

1417
01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:25.640
<v Speaker 5>Of the season.

1418
01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:28.680
<v Speaker 4>And I know that a lot of the attention goes to,

1419
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:31.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, with the moves that are at least only

1420
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.079
<v Speaker 4>one move that was made on the coaching staff this

1421
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:36.439
<v Speaker 4>year that people did not want to see Alex Centron

1422
01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:39.920
<v Speaker 4>or Troyce Nicker back with this team because they felt

1423
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:43.279
<v Speaker 4>like that group needs new voices, you know, helping these

1424
01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:46.399
<v Speaker 4>hitters and helping these approaches and all these different types

1425
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:49.479
<v Speaker 4>of things. And that's something too that Dana Brown has

1426
01:10:49.479 --> 01:10:51.840
<v Speaker 4>talked about and you know this team has talked about

1427
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:54.239
<v Speaker 4>as an emphasis this season of trying to get back

1428
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:57.439
<v Speaker 4>to putting together good at bats. I mean, you saw

1429
01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:00.439
<v Speaker 4>at times last year where a patient of each would

1430
01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:03.119
<v Speaker 4>play it would pay off for this team. But also too,

1431
01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:05.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean you saw at times last year where their

1432
01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:08.720
<v Speaker 4>aggressiveness came back to bite them, and that was again

1433
01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:11.520
<v Speaker 4>only having those innings of you post a run when

1434
01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:14.079
<v Speaker 4>maybe you really could have had two or three.

1435
01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:14.640
<v Speaker 5>In that inning.

1436
01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.199
<v Speaker 4>And that's again getting back to the cheating the angle.

1437
01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:20.119
<v Speaker 4>What the Astros had been so good at for so long.

1438
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.800
<v Speaker 4>Is being able to absolutely grab hold of you in

1439
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.399
<v Speaker 4>an inning and when you look up, it's, oh, hey,

1440
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:28.199
<v Speaker 4>they just scored four or five runs in that inning.

1441
01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:31.920
<v Speaker 4>Like that happened fast. Like this group really made things happen.

1442
01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:34.399
<v Speaker 4>And that's again of being able to cash in on

1443
01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:38.920
<v Speaker 4>those opportunities and not having you know, these pressing at

1444
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:41.880
<v Speaker 4>bats where it leads to a strikeout, it leads into

1445
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:44.560
<v Speaker 4>a grounded into double play, it leads to a base

1446
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:47.199
<v Speaker 4>running mistake, any of those things that the Astros would

1447
01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:49.960
<v Speaker 4>run into in twenty twenty four. These are things they're

1448
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:52.039
<v Speaker 4>trying to be able to learn from and be able

1449
01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:56.760
<v Speaker 4>to improve upon heading into twenty twenty five. So I mean,

1450
01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:58.680
<v Speaker 4>in terms of trying to be able to build out

1451
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:00.840
<v Speaker 4>the rest of this lineup, I mean, I think a

1452
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:02.920
<v Speaker 4>huge part of it as well is what happens out

1453
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:04.800
<v Speaker 4>in the center field. I mean, you heard Dana Brown

1454
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:08.279
<v Speaker 4>in San Antonio talk about they still believe in Chas McCormick.

1455
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yesterday was the tender deadline, and the Astros

1456
01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:15.720
<v Speaker 4>did tender a ton of players, and one of them

1457
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:20.000
<v Speaker 4>that they decided to tender a contract to was Jake Myers.

1458
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:23.640
<v Speaker 4>And there's even wonder if Jake Myers is still going

1459
01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:27.199
<v Speaker 4>to be your everyday starting center fielder defensively, base running wise,

1460
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:30.840
<v Speaker 4>He's fantastic the bat. Later on in the season it

1461
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:33.439
<v Speaker 4>started to lack for you. But of the players that

1462
01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:37.479
<v Speaker 4>the Astros were able to tender contracts to yesterday, Brian

1463
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:41.920
<v Speaker 4>Brady was one, Mauricio Dubon, Luis Garcia, Chas McCormick, and

1464
01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:45.319
<v Speaker 4>also Jake Myers, as I mentioned, Jeremy Pania, as well

1465
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:49.880
<v Speaker 4>as Kyle Tucker and also from Er Valdez. The astros

1466
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:53.279
<v Speaker 4>forty man roster currently is at thirty nine players, so

1467
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:57.680
<v Speaker 4>they can add one more here, and as Dana Brown throughout,

1468
01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:02.039
<v Speaker 4>maybe trade is a possibility for them to be able

1469
01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:05.039
<v Speaker 4>to add that. I mean, I would probably guess that's

1470
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:08.159
<v Speaker 4>the route that they go again. I mean, it's either

1471
01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:11.119
<v Speaker 4>going to be Bregman or whoever Bregman's replacement is is

1472
01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:14.000
<v Speaker 4>likely going to be the free agent splash that they

1473
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.279
<v Speaker 4>make this offseason. I think if you're counting on the

1474
01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:19.279
<v Speaker 4>Astros being one of the teams that wins the off season,

1475
01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:21.760
<v Speaker 4>I think you're going to be sadly disappointed. But in

1476
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:23.760
<v Speaker 4>terms of just being able to build up this roster

1477
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:27.319
<v Speaker 4>again to trade or even being able to find some

1478
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:30.359
<v Speaker 4>good signings on the free agent market. I mean, you know,

1479
01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:33.880
<v Speaker 4>who necessarily thought that Taylor Scott was that guy last year,

1480
01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:36.680
<v Speaker 4>a couple of years ago trade wise, who necessarily thought

1481
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:40.039
<v Speaker 4>that Mauricio Dubon would become such a valuable part of

1482
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:43.079
<v Speaker 4>this team. I mean, these are deals that make a

1483
01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:45.800
<v Speaker 4>general manager really good at their job, and that's what

1484
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Dana Brown's been able to do so far. So we'll

1485
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:50.640
<v Speaker 4>see how it all plays out when it's all said

1486
01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:53.439
<v Speaker 4>and done. But in terms of Bregman, I wouldn't guess

1487
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:56.560
<v Speaker 4>that anything happens this week. I mean usually Thanksgiving time

1488
01:13:56.840 --> 01:14:00.159
<v Speaker 4>is a slow time in the baseball calendar. But the

1489
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:03.039
<v Speaker 4>week following, I think it's a couple of weeks from

1490
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:06.319
<v Speaker 4>then is the Winter meetings, and that's when moves really

1491
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:09.199
<v Speaker 4>start to be made because everybody's all together in one

1492
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:12.319
<v Speaker 4>central location. Agents are there, You're able to go to dinner,

1493
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:14.479
<v Speaker 4>You're able to sit down over drinks whatever it is,

1494
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.880
<v Speaker 4>and try to hash out deals and try to make

1495
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:21.119
<v Speaker 4>those come to fruition. So it'll be interesting to see

1496
01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:24.920
<v Speaker 4>if within that time period something is determined in terms

1497
01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:27.880
<v Speaker 4>of Alex Bregman either being here or if he is

1498
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:30.800
<v Speaker 4>somewhere else going forward, all right, coming up next, you

1499
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:33.840
<v Speaker 4>get into a little bit of Rockets conversation because it

1500
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:38.399
<v Speaker 4>is something that really is a new thing around here

1501
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:40.920
<v Speaker 4>with this team that is new and a good way,

1502
01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:43.880
<v Speaker 4>but also too something last night that I actually want

1503
01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:46.560
<v Speaker 4>to talk to you Rockets fans about and it involves you.

1504
01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:49.600
<v Speaker 4>We'll talk about that on the other side as we

1505
01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:53.000
<v Speaker 4>continue to roll along here on Space City Saturday. Dan

1506
01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:55.800
<v Speaker 4>Matthews here on your home of the Astros and the Rockets,

1507
01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:59.239
<v Speaker 4>Sports Talk seven to ninety.

1508
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:04.000
<v Speaker 1>This is Space City Saturday on Sports Talk seven.

1509
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:09.159
<v Speaker 4>Ninety Socks seven ninety, Dan Matthews here with you until noon.

1510
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:12.399
<v Speaker 4>As I've mentioned it numerous times here on the show,

1511
01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:14.600
<v Speaker 4>and we talk about it, it's fair game. Even if

1512
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:18.439
<v Speaker 4>we have moved on and we did some Rockets conversation

1513
01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:20.560
<v Speaker 4>here in just a second, but just spent a couple

1514
01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:24.720
<v Speaker 4>of segments on the Astros. Paul and the Rice University

1515
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:27.000
<v Speaker 4>area wants to weigh in here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

1516
01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:32.680
<v Speaker 13>Paul, what's up, Yeah, the Astros. I mean, realistically, I

1517
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:35.840
<v Speaker 13>think their window is almost closed. I mean there's a

1518
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:38.159
<v Speaker 13>tiny crack that they may be able to sneak through

1519
01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:40.359
<v Speaker 13>this year, But are they going to be good in

1520
01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:42.399
<v Speaker 13>the next two to five years with a chance to

1521
01:15:42.439 --> 01:15:46.399
<v Speaker 13>win the World Series? No, So it doesn't behoove them

1522
01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:49.199
<v Speaker 13>to sign for Amber Valdez to a long term contract.

1523
01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:52.600
<v Speaker 13>He's the one guy you could probably trade this year

1524
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:55.800
<v Speaker 13>get a good offensive player, hope that you've got enough

1525
01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:58.479
<v Speaker 13>pitching with the guys coming back and the guys coming

1526
01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:01.680
<v Speaker 13>back from Tommy John to make a run, you know,

1527
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:04.399
<v Speaker 13>late in the season. And if you trade Framber you

1528
01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:06.039
<v Speaker 13>can get you should be able to get at least

1529
01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:08.720
<v Speaker 13>one pretty good hitter, maybe a third basement. I mean,

1530
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:12.119
<v Speaker 13>they can't trade Tucker to get anybody if they want

1531
01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:14.279
<v Speaker 13>to compete this year. That's just I mean, They're not

1532
01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:17.039
<v Speaker 13>gonna be able to replace his production. There's no way

1533
01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:18.960
<v Speaker 13>they win the World Series in.

1534
01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:20.680
<v Speaker 5>Twenty five without Kyle Tucker.

1535
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:23.600
<v Speaker 13>So could they win it without Framber? I think so?

1536
01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:27.159
<v Speaker 13>So to me, that's the guy that if you want

1537
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:30.079
<v Speaker 13>to sort of play a hedge game for this year

1538
01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:32.439
<v Speaker 13>and next you know five, you know down the road,

1539
01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:35.479
<v Speaker 13>trade to get some young prospects that maybe can help

1540
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:38.680
<v Speaker 13>you this year. But realistically, the astro of future.

1541
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:39.119
<v Speaker 5>Is pretty bleak.

1542
01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:42.039
<v Speaker 13>I mean, their forty man roster stinks. They've got no

1543
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:44.680
<v Speaker 13>after the top, you know, a dozen or so guys,

1544
01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:48.359
<v Speaker 13>very little depth, and they're gonna have to do a

1545
01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:53.079
<v Speaker 13>massive rebuild, which you know, realistically should start this year

1546
01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:55.640
<v Speaker 13>because they're unless they can get off to a really

1547
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:56.680
<v Speaker 13>good start.

1548
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:00.319
<v Speaker 4>Paul, I'm gonna push back on the massive re build

1549
01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:03.319
<v Speaker 4>because I mean, jose L two Bay is not sticking around.

1550
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:05.920
<v Speaker 4>If that's the case, he would have gone to free

1551
01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:08.960
<v Speaker 4>agency or even just retired if that were the case.

1552
01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:12.600
<v Speaker 4>I guarantee you that it was a conversation with him

1553
01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:15.840
<v Speaker 4>of hey, you being here helps keep that window open.

1554
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:19.359
<v Speaker 4>You were don Alvarez being here Janar Diaz Dana Brown

1555
01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:21.279
<v Speaker 4>talked about him the other day too as well. In

1556
01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:24.560
<v Speaker 4>terms of maybe being an extension, I mean, in terms

1557
01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:28.039
<v Speaker 4>of it looking like it has the previous seven years,

1558
01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:30.840
<v Speaker 4>You're probably right about that. But in terms of this

1559
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:33.239
<v Speaker 4>team needing a massive rebuild, I got to push back

1560
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:33.560
<v Speaker 4>on that.

1561
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:42.800
<v Speaker 5>All right. I guess I lost, Yeah, I guess we lost, Paul,

1562
01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:43.199
<v Speaker 5>all right.

1563
01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:48.319
<v Speaker 4>But now, I mean, look, I understand the fear in

1564
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:52.520
<v Speaker 4>terms of holding on too long, in terms of oh, Hey,

1565
01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:54.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, we really feel like we had this player,

1566
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:58.239
<v Speaker 4>we're in position to be able to win. I think

1567
01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:00.439
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of you have to train your mind out

1568
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:03.800
<v Speaker 4>of that a little bit, because the Astros what led

1569
01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:08.720
<v Speaker 4>them to the early twenty tens was for them making

1570
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.720
<v Speaker 4>awful moves. I mean, the deal that they gave Carlos

1571
01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:16.359
<v Speaker 4>Lee that was one that absolutely should have never happened

1572
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:19.119
<v Speaker 4>with this team. And also too as well, I mean,

1573
01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:22.239
<v Speaker 4>maybe you held on to Royo's Walt Hunter, Penn's Lance

1574
01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:25.399
<v Speaker 4>Berkman too long. And also as well, I mean you

1575
01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:28.119
<v Speaker 4>did not have the players coming up through the farm

1576
01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:30.960
<v Speaker 4>system that we're going to be able to sustain you

1577
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:33.279
<v Speaker 4>to be able to be a competitive team. That was

1578
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:35.880
<v Speaker 4>an issue for this team back then. I don't see

1579
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:38.600
<v Speaker 4>that being the case here also too as well. I

1580
01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:41.399
<v Speaker 4>mean I think a huge reason why you believe that

1581
01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:44.279
<v Speaker 4>the Astros can continue to win is that's why Dana

1582
01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:48.039
<v Speaker 4>Brown is here. Dana Brown, when he was in Atlanta,

1583
01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:51.119
<v Speaker 4>was in charge of building up their farm system and

1584
01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:55.439
<v Speaker 4>building up their roster to be able to sustain winning ways,

1585
01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:57.720
<v Speaker 4>and he's been able to do that here in Houston.

1586
01:18:57.760 --> 01:18:59.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean the way that they've drafted I've told you

1587
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:03.000
<v Speaker 4>before that there is a theme to the way that

1588
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:06.800
<v Speaker 4>the Astros are handling their draft, very similar to what

1589
01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:10.079
<v Speaker 4>I saw when I was in Atlanta. They draft a

1590
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:13.239
<v Speaker 4>ton of pitchers, they draft middle infielders, and they draft

1591
01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:16.520
<v Speaker 4>center fielders. Because I've said at numerous times, you can

1592
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:20.199
<v Speaker 4>make an unathletic guy, or excuse me, you can make

1593
01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:24.600
<v Speaker 4>an athletic guy play a relatively unathletic position. As opposed

1594
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:28.640
<v Speaker 4>to taking an unathletic guy. Maybe you take somebody that

1595
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:32.920
<v Speaker 4>is primarily a first basement your position versatility is not

1596
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:35.399
<v Speaker 4>as wide there. I mean, think about a guy like

1597
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:38.439
<v Speaker 4>Bryce Matthews. I know that, you know, Dana Brown talked

1598
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:41.079
<v Speaker 4>about him the other night about you know, what he's

1599
01:19:41.119 --> 01:19:44.319
<v Speaker 4>been able to do in terms of, you know, coming

1600
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:46.880
<v Speaker 4>along in the minor league system. You know, drafted him

1601
01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:49.840
<v Speaker 4>as a shortstop. But somebody that they feel like can

1602
01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:53.039
<v Speaker 4>contribute going forward, and maybe it's sometime in twenty twenty five.

1603
01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:56.399
<v Speaker 4>He is a member of the Astros active roster here

1604
01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:58.960
<v Speaker 4>at the major league level, and that's something to keep

1605
01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:00.960
<v Speaker 4>an eye on when it comes to hi him because

1606
01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:03.319
<v Speaker 4>they feel like his bat's starting to come along and

1607
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:06.319
<v Speaker 4>they like what he's able to bring from a defensive perspective.

1608
01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:10.680
<v Speaker 4>But you know that's somebody again, that's a Dana Brown

1609
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:13.760
<v Speaker 4>draft pick that again fits that same profile. And that's

1610
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:15.840
<v Speaker 4>what I think he's looking for in terms of trying

1611
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:18.399
<v Speaker 4>to build up the farm system. Again of you know,

1612
01:20:18.439 --> 01:20:20.840
<v Speaker 4>you have a guy that you drafts a shortstop. Hey

1613
01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:23.920
<v Speaker 4>is he gets older and he also too, you know,

1614
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:25.199
<v Speaker 4>puts on a little bit more weight.

1615
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:27.800
<v Speaker 5>Maybe he's a third baseman, maybe he's a left fielder.

1616
01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:28.800
<v Speaker 5>Maybe he is.

1617
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:30.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, we can you know, for a guy like

1618
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:34.560
<v Speaker 4>Zach Decenzo, who was a college shortstop. They like him

1619
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:37.319
<v Speaker 4>because of his height to be able to play first base.

1620
01:20:37.439 --> 01:20:40.920
<v Speaker 4>And you know, height and everything doesn't necessarily matter at

1621
01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:44.439
<v Speaker 4>the first base position. You know, I've talked about it

1622
01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:47.760
<v Speaker 4>numerous times. It's it's about the technique of playing the

1623
01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:51.119
<v Speaker 4>position over there. I explained it to somebody when Yaner

1624
01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:53.039
<v Speaker 4>Diez was playing over there and he got pulled off

1625
01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:55.119
<v Speaker 4>the bag on a play and they were saying, oh,

1626
01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:57.039
<v Speaker 4>he's too short. I said, that has nothing to do

1627
01:20:57.119 --> 01:20:59.600
<v Speaker 4>with it. Jeff Bagwell played first base for years and

1628
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:00.560
<v Speaker 4>played it just fine.

1629
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:01.960
<v Speaker 5>He's all of five to eleven.

1630
01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:04.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's about you know, your footwork in terms

1631
01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:07.319
<v Speaker 4>of being able to you know, know where the bag

1632
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:09.319
<v Speaker 4>is and know, hey, do I need to come off

1633
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:11.159
<v Speaker 4>the bag for this play or do I need to

1634
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, also to do I need to you know,

1635
01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:16.840
<v Speaker 4>be able to you know, try to have my foot

1636
01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:19.079
<v Speaker 4>over here, or any of these other things that kind

1637
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:22.359
<v Speaker 4>of go into trying to play that position. But in

1638
01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:26.039
<v Speaker 4>terms of you know, the Astros overall window, I mean,

1639
01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:27.920
<v Speaker 4>is it going to look like it has for the

1640
01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:30.960
<v Speaker 4>last seven years. No, it's not. The Astros are going

1641
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.560
<v Speaker 4>to miss the playoffs again. That's going to happen sometime

1642
01:21:33.760 --> 01:21:36.239
<v Speaker 4>here in the near future. They will go through a

1643
01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:39.000
<v Speaker 4>season where they're just not as good as they've been in.

1644
01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:40.199
<v Speaker 5>The past, and that happens.

1645
01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:43.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, you you try to be able

1646
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:46.760
<v Speaker 4>to get back to the postseason, and that is the goal. Obviously,

1647
01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:49.600
<v Speaker 4>the goal is to win the American League West and

1648
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:52.159
<v Speaker 4>then you know, to get into the postseason and try

1649
01:21:52.199 --> 01:21:55.640
<v Speaker 4>to be able to get far through that, you know,

1650
01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:56.199
<v Speaker 4>that part.

1651
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:56.640
<v Speaker 5>Of the season.

1652
01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:00.399
<v Speaker 4>But they also to made it look so easy for

1653
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:03.000
<v Speaker 4>so long. And if that's the case, if the Astros

1654
01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:06.319
<v Speaker 4>are going to have a few more lean seasons here

1655
01:22:06.359 --> 01:22:09.000
<v Speaker 4>and there, then that's really just part of the process.

1656
01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:11.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you can't really build up what they were

1657
01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:15.840
<v Speaker 4>able to do from twenty fifteen to this point and

1658
01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:18.880
<v Speaker 4>not think that it's going to continue to be that

1659
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:22.119
<v Speaker 4>way forever, because it's just not a reality. I mean,

1660
01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:25.039
<v Speaker 4>there are even the best teams in baseball that miss

1661
01:22:25.079 --> 01:22:27.920
<v Speaker 4>out on the postseason, and there are even the best

1662
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:29.720
<v Speaker 4>teams who have to go through a little bit of

1663
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:32.079
<v Speaker 4>a retooling. I mean, I think if nothing else, maybe

1664
01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:33.920
<v Speaker 4>the Astros would go through a little bit of a

1665
01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:35.479
<v Speaker 4>retooling process.

1666
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:36.880
<v Speaker 5>That's not a full rebuild.

1667
01:22:37.079 --> 01:22:39.359
<v Speaker 4>It's a hey, maybe we take a step back this

1668
01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:41.600
<v Speaker 4>year to try to take two steps forward next year.

1669
01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:44.880
<v Speaker 4>I think that's something that could be a little bit

1670
01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:47.479
<v Speaker 4>more at hand for the Astros than just a full

1671
01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:48.520
<v Speaker 4>on rebuild for them.

1672
01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:50.279
<v Speaker 5>So I appreciate to call Paul.

1673
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<v Speaker 4>You're welcome here anytime, and you can join Paul if

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01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:55.279
<v Speaker 4>you want to. It's SEB one three two one two

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01:22:55.319 --> 01:22:57.479
<v Speaker 4>five seven ninety. Once again, that's SEBD one three two

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01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:01.239
<v Speaker 4>one two, five seven to nine zero. The Astros conversation

1677
01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:04.800
<v Speaker 4>continue to hear as just something that I wanted to

1678
01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:07.920
<v Speaker 4>be able to talk about at that point. So we

1679
01:23:07.960 --> 01:23:12.239
<v Speaker 4>will continue with the conversation on the other side if

1680
01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:14.800
<v Speaker 4>you want to against someone three two one two five,

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01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:17.039
<v Speaker 4>seven ninety. But I do want to get into a

1682
01:23:17.119 --> 01:23:20.960
<v Speaker 4>Rockets conversation because Rockets fans you fit into this and

1683
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:22.880
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a little bit of a message that

1684
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:25.239
<v Speaker 4>does need to be delivered. We'll talk about that on

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01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:28.079
<v Speaker 4>the other side as we continue and wrap up this

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01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:30.720
<v Speaker 4>edition of Space City Saturday here on your home of

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01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:36.079
<v Speaker 4>the Astros and the Rockets, Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Space City Saturday continues on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 5>Sports Talk seven ninety. I Matthews here with you for.

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<v Speaker 4>Another few minutes again one thirty today here on Sports

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<v Speaker 4>Talk seven ninety. That's when the Texas long Horns and

1692
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:02.159
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky Wildcats football coverage is gonna get started here Craig

1693
01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Way and the crew here on your home of Longhorns football,

1694
01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:10.000
<v Speaker 4>men's basketball, and Houston Sports Talk seven ninety, as well

1695
01:24:10.039 --> 01:24:13.760
<v Speaker 4>as University Houston taking on Baylor, going to be over

1696
01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:15.399
<v Speaker 4>on KPRC nine point fifty.

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01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:16.920
<v Speaker 5>Coming up at five o'clock.

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01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:19.960
<v Speaker 4>LSU and Vanderbilt going to be back over here on

1699
01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:23.600
<v Speaker 4>your Houston home for LSU football Sports Talk seven ninety,

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01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:27.520
<v Speaker 4>and then of course, Rockets and Blazers coverage getting started

1701
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:30.880
<v Speaker 4>at six with Adam Clanton on Rockets launch Pad again.

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01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:34.880
<v Speaker 4>That's going to be over on news radio seven forty KTRH.

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01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:38.439
<v Speaker 4>All right, so the Rockets last night, nice little one

1704
01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:43.319
<v Speaker 4>sixteen eighty eight win over the Portland Trailblazers. But there

1705
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:46.560
<v Speaker 4>is something that normally, I think I've talked about this

1706
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:51.640
<v Speaker 4>with y'all before. I am not about doing the lecture

1707
01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:54.279
<v Speaker 4>thing and you know, telling you how you need to

1708
01:24:54.319 --> 01:24:56.760
<v Speaker 4>be a better fan, all of those different types of things.

1709
01:24:57.399 --> 01:25:00.039
<v Speaker 4>I think it's just it's honestly, it's self important, and

1710
01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:05.000
<v Speaker 4>it's really kind of just I would say it's lacking awareness,

1711
01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:08.880
<v Speaker 4>because lord knows, I'm not perfect at this job whatsoever.

1712
01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:13.880
<v Speaker 4>If I were, then I don't I don't know. But anyway,

1713
01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:17.479
<v Speaker 4>I just I can't stand when people try to, you know,

1714
01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:20.680
<v Speaker 4>moral high ground fans and you know, this is how

1715
01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:22.680
<v Speaker 4>you should do it, blah blah blah, all of that.

1716
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:26.960
<v Speaker 4>I just I will never be that guy. But I

1717
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:30.960
<v Speaker 4>am going to somewhat wide into those waters with this

1718
01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:34.079
<v Speaker 4>Rockets team, because last night I'm in the building.

1719
01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:35.840
<v Speaker 5>There and I get it. It's the Blazers.

1720
01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:38.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, when you pay your hard earned money

1721
01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:42.079
<v Speaker 4>to go and watch you know, the Rockets, the Astros,

1722
01:25:42.119 --> 01:25:44.319
<v Speaker 4>the Texans, whoever it is, you want to be able

1723
01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:46.760
<v Speaker 4>to know that it's not only going to be a

1724
01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:49.760
<v Speaker 4>fun and entertaining product, but you want to make sure

1725
01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:53.680
<v Speaker 4>that your money is going as far and a vast

1726
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:55.840
<v Speaker 4>as it can go. And I'm you know, I'm sure

1727
01:25:55.880 --> 01:25:59.399
<v Speaker 4>that probably people looking at that game last night saying, hey, yeah,

1728
01:25:59.439 --> 01:26:02.439
<v Speaker 4>the Rockets playing good basketball, but it's the Blazers. I mean,

1729
01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:05.079
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't I wait until I don't know, they play against

1730
01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:09.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, a Joker and the Nuggets, or you know,

1731
01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:12.039
<v Speaker 4>maybe Luca and the Mavericks are in town. You know

1732
01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:14.319
<v Speaker 4>who knows, even though they're not all that great, you know,

1733
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:17.199
<v Speaker 4>Wimby and the Spurs they're here. You know, maybe that's

1734
01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:20.039
<v Speaker 4>when I go Lebron and the Lakers. I get all

1735
01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:23.920
<v Speaker 4>of that, absolutely, I truly do. But this Rockets team

1736
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:27.479
<v Speaker 4>is exciting. This Rockets team is fun, and this has

1737
01:26:27.560 --> 01:26:30.279
<v Speaker 4>been a fun seventeen games so far to this point

1738
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:30.880
<v Speaker 4>in the season.

1739
01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:32.279
<v Speaker 5>And I get it too.

1740
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:35.520
<v Speaker 4>I think with the way that the rebuild went, there's

1741
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:38.720
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of, hey, show me this is sustainable

1742
01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:41.840
<v Speaker 4>because the Rockets did have good moments last year, but

1743
01:26:42.079 --> 01:26:44.520
<v Speaker 4>when it all was said and done, they wore down

1744
01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:47.680
<v Speaker 4>down the stretch and they were a five hundred basketball team,

1745
01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:51.159
<v Speaker 4>but still they were not able to make it into

1746
01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:54.680
<v Speaker 4>the playoffs. And I know that there's probably some who say, hey,

1747
01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:56.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, show me you can do that and then

1748
01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:59.479
<v Speaker 4>I'll believe again. And that's something that they're trying to

1749
01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:02.399
<v Speaker 4>be able to and this is part of the process

1750
01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:04.560
<v Speaker 4>of them trying to get to that point this season.

1751
01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:07.840
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, you see a team that right now

1752
01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:11.520
<v Speaker 4>is playing outstanding on the defensive end. They are the

1753
01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:13.760
<v Speaker 4>second highest defensive rated.

1754
01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:15.119
<v Speaker 5>Team in the NBA right now.

1755
01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:18.279
<v Speaker 4>The Oklahoma City Thunder are the only team in front

1756
01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:22.760
<v Speaker 4>of them. So they're playing stellar defense. They're playing exciting basketball.

1757
01:27:22.800 --> 01:27:25.640
<v Speaker 4>On the offensive end, the shooting has improved this season,

1758
01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:28.039
<v Speaker 4>and Jalen Green has improved in that regard. You've seen

1759
01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:30.800
<v Speaker 4>some good things at times out of Jabari Smith Junior.

1760
01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:33.119
<v Speaker 4>And then also too, you get the Terror Twins off

1761
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:35.159
<v Speaker 4>the bench in Amen Thompson.

1762
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:36.760
<v Speaker 5>And also you know.

1763
01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:41.840
<v Speaker 4>Tarry Eason as another guy that's been a huge bright

1764
01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:43.880
<v Speaker 4>spot for this team to this point. But last night

1765
01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:47.000
<v Speaker 4>in the building, it's probably about seventy five percent full.

1766
01:27:47.399 --> 01:27:50.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean Friday night, not really a ton going on

1767
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:53.159
<v Speaker 4>here in the area. Be in the building, man, like,

1768
01:27:53.239 --> 01:27:56.159
<v Speaker 4>be there, ready to go, Like be there, rowdy. I mean,

1769
01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:58.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, we've seen what Toyota Center looks like when

1770
01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:02.880
<v Speaker 4>it's full. Go fans in there, ready to go, ready

1771
01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:05.600
<v Speaker 4>to support their team. The red rowties are there, you know,

1772
01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:08.920
<v Speaker 4>just we know what Toyota Center should look like.

1773
01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:11.399
<v Speaker 5>And I would, if nothing else.

1774
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Encourage you this season to you're thinking about going to

1775
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.399
<v Speaker 4>a rocketscheme, go go and have fun.

1776
01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:19.479
<v Speaker 5>Go see this team, go enjoy them.

1777
01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:23.359
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I understand too that the NBA as

1778
01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:26.800
<v Speaker 4>a whole, across the board viewership is down, and it's

1779
01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:29.960
<v Speaker 4>a product that I've talked about numerous times that I

1780
01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:33.960
<v Speaker 4>think American basketball as a whole has a development issue

1781
01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:37.439
<v Speaker 4>on the men's side, because, let's face it, you have

1782
01:28:37.479 --> 01:28:39.159
<v Speaker 4>a lot of guys who are one and done coming

1783
01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:41.600
<v Speaker 4>out of college. They are not ready to go yet.

1784
01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:45.680
<v Speaker 4>And I think that without really a farm system. I mean,

1785
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:47.720
<v Speaker 4>I understand that the G League is there, but for

1786
01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:51.600
<v Speaker 4>the most part, you draft a guy as a lottery pick,

1787
01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:54.840
<v Speaker 4>you're not going to likely have them go down to

1788
01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:57.960
<v Speaker 4>the G League and try to get increased minutes and

1789
01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:00.359
<v Speaker 4>try to develop from there. You're gonna want to have

1790
01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:02.039
<v Speaker 4>them here at the NBA level, and they're going to

1791
01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:04.560
<v Speaker 4>struggle a little bit because they're playing against grown men

1792
01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:07.439
<v Speaker 4>who have been playing at this level for four or

1793
01:29:07.439 --> 01:29:10.039
<v Speaker 4>five years at least and are a little bit more

1794
01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:13.079
<v Speaker 4>developed in terms of that part of their game. And

1795
01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:16.520
<v Speaker 4>I've said a numerous times that I think that probably

1796
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:19.359
<v Speaker 4>some rules could change on the college level. I would

1797
01:29:19.479 --> 01:29:23.720
<v Speaker 4>like to personally see the NBA go to kind of

1798
01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:29.680
<v Speaker 4>the Major League Baseball scenario that they have in college baseball,

1799
01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:33.279
<v Speaker 4>where if you play Major Division I college baseball, you

1800
01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:37.920
<v Speaker 4>have to either be a junior or be twenty one

1801
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:41.880
<v Speaker 4>to be able to come out and go into the

1802
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:44.199
<v Speaker 4>Major League Baseball system and go through the minor leagues

1803
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:47.000
<v Speaker 4>and do all that different types of things, because i mean,

1804
01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:49.439
<v Speaker 4>let's look at what the NBA was in the eighties

1805
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:51.920
<v Speaker 4>and nineties. That was when guys would stay in college

1806
01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:55.119
<v Speaker 4>for two, three, maybe even four years. You don't see

1807
01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:58.840
<v Speaker 4>the last guys stay for that long. But I mean take,

1808
01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:02.439
<v Speaker 4>for example, this season, a guy like Dalton connect and

1809
01:30:02.479 --> 01:30:05.560
<v Speaker 4>how he has played in the early going for the

1810
01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:08.119
<v Speaker 4>LA Lakers. That's a guy that played two or three

1811
01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:11.000
<v Speaker 4>years in college basketball. If I'm not mistaken, he's a

1812
01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:13.800
<v Speaker 4>little bit more developed in that regard. And I mean

1813
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:16.159
<v Speaker 4>I think that you saw a better product on the

1814
01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:20.199
<v Speaker 4>floor at the time. And it's also too, I mean

1815
01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:22.399
<v Speaker 4>a thing where you know, look at the Rockets, I

1816
01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:25.159
<v Speaker 4>mean look at how you know people were just grundled

1817
01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:27.760
<v Speaker 4>with Jalen Green for the longest time of man, we

1818
01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:30.800
<v Speaker 4>drafted this guy second overall and this is what we get.

1819
01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:33.159
<v Speaker 4>But now I think you're starting to see Jalen Green

1820
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:36.119
<v Speaker 4>be the player who you hope that you were getting

1821
01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:39.760
<v Speaker 4>at that point. And also too, you know, Jabari Smith junior,

1822
01:30:39.800 --> 01:30:41.680
<v Speaker 4>he's gone through a little bit of some growing paints.

1823
01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:45.640
<v Speaker 4>I mean Alprin Shingoun, he played against professional competition growing

1824
01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:48.640
<v Speaker 4>up there in Turkey and came over now and is

1825
01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:52.159
<v Speaker 4>probably a little bit further ahead of where people thought

1826
01:30:52.159 --> 01:30:54.960
<v Speaker 4>he would be in terms of being a developmental player

1827
01:30:55.039 --> 01:30:58.760
<v Speaker 4>at this point. But I mean, you know, just across

1828
01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:02.359
<v Speaker 4>the league, I mean, is viewership down? Why is necessarily

1829
01:31:02.359 --> 01:31:06.399
<v Speaker 4>interest down? I think another thing that the NBA should

1830
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:10.199
<v Speaker 4>maybe consider going forward is start the season later. I mean,

1831
01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:12.359
<v Speaker 4>why are you trying to bang your head against a

1832
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:15.119
<v Speaker 4>brick wall. Against the NFL, You're not going to win.

1833
01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:18.279
<v Speaker 4>The NFL will win every single time. The NFL has

1834
01:31:18.319 --> 01:31:21.680
<v Speaker 4>won so much that they finally looked at Christmas Day

1835
01:31:21.920 --> 01:31:25.159
<v Speaker 4>and said, yeah, that's nice. But you can only watch

1836
01:31:25.319 --> 01:31:29.640
<v Speaker 4>Lebron and Steph Curry and the Warriors and try to

1837
01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:32.560
<v Speaker 4>have the New York Knicks force force fed to you

1838
01:31:33.039 --> 01:31:35.439
<v Speaker 4>of Hey, the Knicks matter. Hey, you should pay attention

1839
01:31:35.479 --> 01:31:36.279
<v Speaker 4>to the New York Knicks.

1840
01:31:36.319 --> 01:31:37.760
<v Speaker 5>Again. I get it.

1841
01:31:37.880 --> 01:31:39.720
<v Speaker 4>You know you're trying to, you know, draw up to

1842
01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:44.520
<v Speaker 4>interest and your you know, highest rated markets in the

1843
01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:45.359
<v Speaker 4>United States.

1844
01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:46.920
<v Speaker 5>That's that's fine. I get that.

1845
01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:50.000
<v Speaker 4>And you know, the Celtics, all right, they're fine, they're great, whatever.

1846
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:53.760
<v Speaker 4>But across the board, I mean, aside from Lebron, really,

1847
01:31:53.920 --> 01:31:58.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean, who who necessarily out there if you don't

1848
01:31:58.039 --> 01:32:00.560
<v Speaker 4>have really anything better to do on a Tuesday or

1849
01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:03.600
<v Speaker 4>Wednesday night and say there's an ESPN or a T

1850
01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:06.199
<v Speaker 4>and T game on that you would say, hey, even

1851
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:08.720
<v Speaker 4>though it's not the Rockets, I'll watch. I can't think

1852
01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:11.520
<v Speaker 4>of anybody. I mean, I've talked about it numerous times.

1853
01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:14.399
<v Speaker 4>The Oklahoma City Thunder, they're a really good team. Shake

1854
01:32:14.439 --> 01:32:17.279
<v Speaker 4>Gildes Alexander. I could probably take a picture of Shake

1855
01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:21.279
<v Speaker 4>Gilges Alexander, go over to the galleria and ask people, hey,

1856
01:32:21.319 --> 01:32:23.399
<v Speaker 4>do you know who this is? And I could almost

1857
01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:25.399
<v Speaker 4>guarantee you that nine out of ten people would have

1858
01:32:25.399 --> 01:32:28.159
<v Speaker 4>no idea who he is. I mean, that's just kind

1859
01:32:28.159 --> 01:32:30.199
<v Speaker 4>of what you're running into in the league right now.

1860
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:33.199
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I understand people's opinions in terms of

1861
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:36.319
<v Speaker 4>why the league is down across the board, but I

1862
01:32:36.359 --> 01:32:39.199
<v Speaker 4>think that's really the biggest thing is that you just

1863
01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:44.960
<v Speaker 4>don't have real tangible stars in the league at this moment.

1864
01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:48.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Lebron his best days of basketball are behind him.

1865
01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:51.279
<v Speaker 4>He's still really good, He's still worth the price of admission.

1866
01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:53.039
<v Speaker 5>All of those different types of things.

1867
01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:55.239
<v Speaker 4>You want to see Lebron James play because you want

1868
01:32:55.239 --> 01:32:56.920
<v Speaker 4>to be able to say, hey, I got to see

1869
01:32:56.960 --> 01:32:59.159
<v Speaker 4>one of the greatest in the in the league's history

1870
01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:02.000
<v Speaker 4>beyond the floor, lay them up and go out and play.

1871
01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:05.800
<v Speaker 4>But aside from him, I mean, I just really, I mean,

1872
01:33:06.279 --> 01:33:09.319
<v Speaker 4>Joel Embiid does not do that for me. You know,

1873
01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:13.640
<v Speaker 4>Jalen Brown, and you know Jason Tatum with the Celtics

1874
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:15.279
<v Speaker 4>doesn't necessarily do that for me.

1875
01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:17.880
<v Speaker 5>You know, when Healthy Kawhi.

1876
01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Leonard and James Harden with the Clippers, it's not necessarily

1877
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<v Speaker 4>like I'm like, oh, I've got to watch these guys play.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think across the board you just don't have that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that probably that's kind of I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if apathy is necessarily the right word here, but

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, with the Rockets, I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>more than anything, and I get it from your perspective

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<v Speaker 4>that hey show us that you guys are worth paying

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<v Speaker 4>attention to. And if they continue to win, I think

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<v Speaker 4>they will get to that point because I would probably

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<v Speaker 4>suspect after football season comes to a close, that's when

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<v Speaker 4>you'll start to see more full buildings over there at

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<v Speaker 4>Toyota Center. So hopefully that is sooner rather than later

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to do it for us here on Space

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<v Speaker 4>City Saturday. I want to thank Melvin Brown back behind

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<v Speaker 4>the glass doing a great job, as always, want to

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<v Speaker 4>thank all of you two who wait in here on

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<v Speaker 4>the show today. We will be coming back at you

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<v Speaker 4>again next week here for a Thanksgiving post Thanksgiving edition

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<v Speaker 4>of Space City Saturday. That'll be coming your way on

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<v Speaker 4>the other side. But until then, have a great Thanksgiving holiday,

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<v Speaker 4>and we will talk to you then. Don't forget Texas

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<v Speaker 4>and Kentucky football coming your way one point thirty right

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<v Speaker 4>here on your home of the Longhorns, here in Houston

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<v Speaker 4>Sports Talk seven ninety I'm Dan Matthews.

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<v Speaker 5>Talk to y'all next week.
