Speaker 1: Say, I'm gonna hit you some rumors you can give me.
Speaker 1: I guess this kind of work as a BS, so
Speaker 1: you give me more percentages as well. I got, I
Speaker 1: got a litany of rumors. Okay, the X Men will
Speaker 1: be from the eight three eight aka the F fours universe.
Speaker 2: No, no, definitely not. I stand opposing this because in
Speaker 2: that trailer, again, you have three different.
Speaker 1: Thing about anybody you know anyway, we don't say anything
Speaker 1: about anybody else we might know.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you have three years that you see in
Speaker 2: the trailer. And again I just I fall back on
Speaker 2: to the fact that they keep advertising on the concept darts,
Speaker 2: the posters, the trailers like you have them standing separately
Speaker 2: as three teams.
Speaker 1: Kind of that's not breaking anything though, because that would
Speaker 1: be part of the f Force universe. So the idea
Speaker 1: is the idea working here, and I guess, let me,
Speaker 1: I can pull up this whole thing. This did come
Speaker 1: from the seat here and this I'll read it. But
Speaker 1: the idea is the you can't do you make Needo
Speaker 1: on the Holocaust now right, because it's just so far away.
Speaker 2: You can't do Megnedo on the Holocaust.
Speaker 1: So honestly, one of his big popular characters. Is he
Speaker 1: and his family with the Holocaust? Right, yeah, and that
Speaker 1: shapes and benzem You couldn't do that nowadays because a
Speaker 1: person that's still a live would be like in their
Speaker 1: nineties or one hundreds. Right. So if you're getting let's
Speaker 1: say it's am Driver or whoever, they could have gone
Speaker 1: through the Holocaust because clearly they're much younger. Right m hm.
Speaker 1: Where does the F four universe take place?
Speaker 2: Isn't it in the present time?
Speaker 1: No, it's in the is it or in the sixties
Speaker 1: that I don't know.
Speaker 2: The technology was sixties, but it was very advanced.
Speaker 1: So here's the rumor, this is from most Scooper said
Speaker 1: they heard a rumor that Marvel's early plans, this is
Speaker 1: where early plants sore could change, is make the X
Speaker 1: Men come from the universe of eight to eights or
Speaker 1: now eight three eight after Secret Wars eight to eight
Speaker 1: and six one six would merge, meaning the characters from
Speaker 1: the sixties, Yes see, it would now be the ones
Speaker 1: for present day. Yeah. So, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If a magneto's he could go through the holocausts in
Speaker 1: that universe and then whatever you know.
Speaker 2: But this is just to justify Adam Driver playing Magneto.
Speaker 1: I think it's to justify a lot of things. It's
Speaker 1: to justify anybody playing Magneto that's not one hundreds. It's
Speaker 1: to justify of Taylor. Where's Wolverine been.
Speaker 2: In six one six? Yeah, hmmm, he's.
Speaker 1: The guy who's been around for one hundred years. He
Speaker 1: fought World War tooth cap all stuff. I don't love
Speaker 1: it either, because I think it's kind of a cheat
Speaker 1: if you just say, and especially because I had talked
Speaker 1: about this with someone. I said, well, in F four
Speaker 1: they said, oh, there's no other superheroes in that universe.
Speaker 1: One they can lie and wreck on that, right, and
Speaker 1: two the mutes could just be keeping it a secret. Right,
Speaker 1: they're not saying anything.
Speaker 2: But we know that there's not all the same heroes
Speaker 2: and all the other different timelines.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And I say this because you look at No Way Home.
Speaker 2: You know Tokyo Quiat like the Avengers. It's great, what
Speaker 2: is that they don't have the Avengers where he came from, right?
Speaker 2: Those other Spider Man don't have And I know because
Speaker 2: it's backtracking and they're just trying to make it work
Speaker 2: for the current day.
Speaker 1: But then that does Doesn't that help this rumor of
Speaker 1: the Munes that we're gonna know that we're going to
Speaker 1: the X Men are going to come from the f
Speaker 1: four universe. So after Secret Wars, when we combined with
Speaker 1: the six one six and the fours universe, if the
Speaker 1: Munes are there, they were over there and they're combining
Speaker 1: and now they're in present day.
Speaker 2: I would counter it, but I don't. I can't because
Speaker 2: there's spoilers from something.
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. Some people have theorized that
Speaker 1: character there is. So I'll give you this example.
Speaker 2: Taylor, are you thinking like a time traveling thing out
Speaker 2: of time, well, kind.
Speaker 1: Of at a time thing, But I'll give you this example.
Speaker 1: Wolverine died in the let's just say the six one
Speaker 1: sixth universe, right, Wolverine died and Laura Kinney was left
Speaker 1: as X twenty three, and then she became Wolverine. When
Speaker 1: they did a universe joining thing, Wolverine came back, but
Speaker 1: he was Old Man Logan, so he came from one
Speaker 1: universe and was there. So that's how you could have
Speaker 1: two logans at once. So that's why I think the
Speaker 1: character you're thinking of could be a time displaced character.
Speaker 1: What if they're the only mutant in the six one
Speaker 1: six and the other mutes are over there and they
Speaker 1: get kind of put together, smashed together the same way.
Speaker 1: It's like in the com books, Miles when he becomes
Speaker 1: Spider Man, Peter Parker dies, like in Spier pers he dies,
Speaker 1: but after Secret Wars they put the universes together, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we found a universe where Peter Parker's still alive and
Speaker 1: Miles of Spider Man's that's how we got two. So
Speaker 1: just because one mute might be in the six one
Speaker 1: six does not mean they could not combine the two universes.
Speaker 1: I think it's messy, but it's just a rumor. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just the reporter.
Speaker 2: I'm not the I'm still I'm still separate on it.
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have the X Men doing their
Speaker 2: own thing with their own Earth, because again you see
Speaker 2: the three yearths thing. So I feel like, Okay, you
Speaker 2: got X Men on there's Fantastic four on theirs and
Speaker 2: you got six one six here us.
Speaker 1: So but again, they could still be on that four.
Speaker 1: That theory doesn't mean anything that it still could be
Speaker 1: in that third.
Speaker 2: Then who comes from the Third Earth because each church
Speaker 2: is a separate universe, right the.
Speaker 1: X So I'll say one universe six one six, second
Speaker 1: universe is Fox X Men, and the third universe is
Speaker 1: the mcun two A and mutants. That's what this is proposing,
Speaker 1: this rumor.
Speaker 2: So you're saying all the new mutants that are popping
Speaker 2: up to be in six one six are coming from
Speaker 2: Fantastic four.
Speaker 1: Ye that's a rumor.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, because then you could.
Speaker 1: Kind of cheat and be like, well, Wolverine's been around
Speaker 1: all this time over there, That's why didn't Boone to camp.
Speaker 1: And yeah you could, you could make MANI know, age slower,
Speaker 1: but I just don't know if they're gonna do that right,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they're gonna tackle the Holocaust.
Speaker 1: So it's getting it tricky. You know. Hm, I'm a
Speaker 1: fifty percent one on this because I I think it
Speaker 1: is tricky. But at the same time, I could see
Speaker 1: them just I could see them just being like, well,
Speaker 1: how do we fit this and how we fit this?
Speaker 1: Go just fuck it? Put another universe and we'll put
Speaker 1: them together.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I'll go like forty percent. I could
Speaker 2: go higher too, because it does make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we'll know more after Doomsday's Seo Wars.
Speaker 1: So all right, it's awesome right now, Bill scars Guard
Speaker 1: still in talks for Xavier. They have them the cast
Speaker 1: say we're gonna talk about in the second Newest rumor
Speaker 1: Taylor and anyonet to know one percentage of how you
Speaker 1: think it would be true, but two if you would
Speaker 1: even like it. There's a going around that Alexander scars
Speaker 1: Guard could be up for Magneto. So how would you
Speaker 1: feel about the two brothers as far, because now I
Speaker 1: feel like the rumors Taylor have been shifting more to
Speaker 1: your oars Driver is Sinister, not Magneto. So how would
Speaker 1: you feel if you had brothers playing Xavier and Magneto?
Speaker 1: Would that be odd to you? And would you think
Speaker 1: Alexander would be a good fit for Eric Lyncher?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I mean the last thing I saw him
Speaker 2: in was The Northmen, but the.
Speaker 1: Very Magneto type of Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: He was Tarzan too about that. And he was in Zoolander.
Speaker 2: I don't even remember that. Yeah, I'm Zoolander. Well that's
Speaker 2: what is his thing? He says here. I don't know
Speaker 2: who he was because I barely remember that movie. But
Speaker 2: Mikus is what it's called.
Speaker 1: Oh he isn't there right, Yeah, that's before he gets
Speaker 1: really buff and everything that he's one of Derek's friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mikush yeah, I don't uh you.
Speaker 1: Find brothers playing those two.
Speaker 2: I mean that kind of chemistry would resonate very well
Speaker 2: on screen, to be honest, because the two of them,
Speaker 2: even though you know, brothers from different mothers, they have
Speaker 2: that that that connection every time they're on screen, right
Speaker 2: from from their upbringing. So that might actually work really
Speaker 2: really well. But and they look different enough. Really, I mean,
Speaker 2: you shave Bill's head, right.
Speaker 1: And then Alexander can have the long hair right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's odd off the hop, but it
Speaker 1: works as they do have a brotherly connection. And I
Speaker 1: actually think Alexander scars Guard would make like a a
Speaker 1: really good magneto, like like I still prefer Driver, but
Speaker 1: like scars Guard I think could hit the nail on
Speaker 1: the head and do that. So I I for want.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm up to Minds of Taylor because I
Speaker 1: don't really want Bill as Xavier, though I want Tom
Speaker 1: Pelfrey to be a Savior. He's the other guy that's
Speaker 1: rumored right now, so that that's where i'd want Tom
Speaker 1: Pelfrey and then Alexander as Magneto. But if they're there,
Speaker 1: that works and it could be fun enough, so I
Speaker 1: could see that. This is what I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: because this is not really so, I guess know it's
Speaker 1: a rumor. Some people have rumored it. Its speculation. You
Speaker 1: go back and forth. Do you think obviously we'll be
Speaker 1: back live next Friday, or we got a big stream tail.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing the same thing as D twenty three.
Speaker 1: We're gonna sit down, hopefully at least myself, hopefully you
Speaker 1: guys will be available as well. We're gonna sit down
Speaker 1: D twenty three. So we got Pixar, Disney, Star Wars
Speaker 1: and Avengers, Marvel stuff, a panel we don't get to
Speaker 1: see about, get the updates. Do you think we've heard
Speaker 1: you know, we at least I'll just say we at
Speaker 1: least know of a few X Men rumored. We know
Speaker 1: of Somemorrow Weaving being cast as Emma Frost. Do you
Speaker 1: think they're going to do a full unveil I'm not
Speaker 1: saying every character, but a big unveil of the X Men,
Speaker 1: or do you think it's too early. As people specting
Speaker 1: d D twenty three, do you get like, here's five
Speaker 1: to six people playing X.
Speaker 2: Men, you bring them up all on stage. I think
Speaker 2: that's gonna get some serious juice. Sure, week No, I
Speaker 2: think it overshadows everyone in Doomsday, to be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all. And also too, it's just weird of
Speaker 1: like I've always thought for the public, is it not
Speaker 1: weird to like talk about the new X Men before
Speaker 1: the old X Men have already not been killed off yet?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely so.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. I guess with Samara you could because she's not
Speaker 1: they're not bringing that character back. Could you do that? Then?
Speaker 1: Could you bring the characters up stage that are like
Speaker 1: a Storm because she's not Secret Wars or Gene, she's
Speaker 1: not on Secret Wars.
Speaker 2: I think those kind of characters would make sense. The
Speaker 2: characters that aren't going to be crossing interests with the
Speaker 2: same characters played by different actors and actresses. I think
Speaker 2: that for sure kind of meets in the middle.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. It's tough, right, because it's because the
Speaker 1: other thing is too not that I think the general
Speaker 1: audience will care, But I think the other reason why
Speaker 1: this is getting out there is if this movie is
Speaker 1: coming on twenty twenty eight, we're almost twenty twenty seven,
Speaker 1: the means you're gonna star shooting the movie, so we
Speaker 1: will know that. So it's this thing of like, do
Speaker 1: you think they really want to cast a leak by
Speaker 1: just like via set photos and stuff like that. They'd
Speaker 1: probably rather still do like a big rollout right of
Speaker 1: like for sure, Scott. So that's where it's like a
Speaker 1: it's really tough timing. Yeah, I don't think we get
Speaker 1: the big We may get a couple characters. I don't
Speaker 1: think we get the full roster next week at D
Speaker 1: twenty three. I would love it. It'd be cool because
Speaker 1: again like almost no the no knowing the fox X
Speaker 1: men's making it other than Hugh Jackman. No, none of
Speaker 1: them are making it right. They're all dying. So h yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll see about that. What else do I got here? Okay,
Speaker 1: here's two funny ones. I'll see the cancelation last week.
Speaker 1: This comes from a C plus tier wonder man, we'll
Speaker 1: have a role in Secret Wars.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say a good chance. I it was a
Speaker 2: good chance, yeah, because I mean clearly they want to
Speaker 2: do that season two, and obviously the season two is
Speaker 2: not happening anymore, but I think there's still a lot
Speaker 2: of room for that character. And Secret Wars is that.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're gonna bring everyone in for that, right,
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have so many characters brought in.
Speaker 1: I think so. But do you know think like I
Speaker 1: did not look at the viewership, but I think that's
Speaker 1: one of the lower ones, do you know. I think
Speaker 1: people are like, who the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: Like the GA you know, maybe, but I mean when
Speaker 2: you look at Avengers Endgame and everyone's coming out of
Speaker 2: those portals, there were a lot of heroes, It's like,
Speaker 2: who the fuck is this? But it didn't matter because
Speaker 2: you got your core five, right, or you're not your
Speaker 2: core your core three. So I mean, you get another
Speaker 2: portal scene and you got wonder Man coming out, all
Speaker 2: these other characters and you don't have to know exactly
Speaker 2: who all of them are. He just cuts to Steve
Speaker 2: Rogers saying a Ventures assemble again and everyone starts running
Speaker 2: towards Not even dude was brought out? Yeah, not Sam's captain,
Speaker 2: No if he.
Speaker 1: Doesn't get that line, But even then, like, what does
Speaker 1: Wonderman's career look like post Secret Wars, like not.
Speaker 2: Running from the cops, but I mean, like what it
Speaker 2: like in the mc U running from the Cops, d O,
Speaker 2: d C or whatever. It is part of the damage control.
Speaker 1: But not. Do you think he's any shows or any movies.
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be pretty funny if he was
Speaker 2: doing something with the Eternal I remember his name, King
Speaker 2: Go King.
Speaker 1: Go, yeah, go up. You love KINGO. He always kind
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, yeah, all right, here's the last one.
Speaker 1: I guess it's turning to Marvel bs Beaner. But okay,
Speaker 1: I find this is interesting. Reportably, this comes from a
Speaker 1: B tier. Marvel is considering turning Strange Academy and Champions
Speaker 1: into films. So before you answer, you gotta walk with it.
Speaker 1: As these movies started as movies, but then they decided
Speaker 1: to change these two Disney plus shows, which I have
Speaker 1: not talked much about Strange Academy, about Champions, that's Young Avengers.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you've got to make that TV show.
Speaker 1: I think as a movie it'll eat shit bub By.
Speaker 1: Now we're in the situation where I don't think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be doing too many big live action shows for
Speaker 1: Disney Plus. So they have these Young Avengers that they're
Speaker 1: setting up, and I think they'll be in secret wars
Speaker 1: and hopefully get a big highlight. But if you win,
Speaker 1: now it's gone from movie to TV show to movie.
Speaker 1: I still would on both these pump the breaks. I
Speaker 1: think strange Academy to me, that could only be a
Speaker 1: TV show in my opinion, I just don't think that's
Speaker 1: the juice. I don't Eve might have wong and strange,
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's the juice you'd have to
Speaker 1: juice up with a lot of the characters young Avengers,
Speaker 1: because I'm not like I still think when they make
Speaker 1: Black Panther three and four or five and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: everyone and while they're still going to make risks like
Speaker 1: ant Men or Guardians. Right, so it's okay, maybe you
Speaker 1: can try to take a risk on your young adventures.
Speaker 1: If you're asked me, it's like, don't do that. I
Speaker 1: think t you shows better and if it's too expensive,
Speaker 1: then just scrap and have them be and other stuff.
Speaker 1: But Champions, I could buy them trying to take a gamble.
Speaker 1: Strange Academy. I can't buy that. Being that, do you
Speaker 1: need me to keep talking while you go and check
Speaker 1: on things there.
Speaker 2: Oh see if mass and oh yeah, she's she's sneaking in.
Speaker 1: She's sneaking in. Yeah, so I I here. Here's where
Speaker 1: I am. I'm at a sixty percent that I believe
Speaker 1: they would be considering this. I'm at a thirty percent
Speaker 1: of this actually happening, though. I just don't I think
Speaker 1: if you're you know, to hear some all these Marvel
Speaker 1: wins earlier, if you want more wins. I don't think
Speaker 1: Strange Academy and Champions as of films are ways to
Speaker 1: go right now.
Speaker 2: No, I agree. I mean the concepts of Champions sounds cool,
Speaker 2: but I'm and I love doctor Strange stuff, but I'm
Speaker 2: not pulled to it being a movie. I don't think
Speaker 2: there's enough there.
Speaker 1: With some wizards and.
Speaker 2: That's that's right. Like I just feel like, okay, like Agatha,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna that doesn't feel like a movie to me.
Speaker 2: But I feel like that's the equivalent of what you're
Speaker 2: gonna get with the Champions show or Champion storyline, and
Speaker 2: then the other one with the Young Avengers. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was a point in time where I think, you know,
Speaker 2: I would have been excited for a movie. But now
Speaker 2: after the projects that we've gotten and all the Young
Speaker 2: Avengers kind of scattered around the room, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't think there's room for Scar on the big screen.
Speaker 2: I think Scar is just Disney Plus Limited series, you know,
Speaker 2: which is shame because I want Kate Bishop to be
Speaker 2: on the big screen. But I don't feel like she's
Speaker 2: gonna be Young Avenger. I feel like she's gonna get that.
Speaker 1: What about this Young Adventures with Thunderbolts.
Speaker 2: No, because then I feel like they're expendable.
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to because what I'd be down say,
Speaker 1: we just talked about in the lightest X Men episode,
Speaker 1: the little X four X factor combined thing. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: that where it's them working together but they can be opposed.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think there's a lot of I think
Speaker 1: you gotta get Kate Bishop, miss Marvel and that might
Speaker 1: be it. I know, maybe Cassie Lang, but there's a lot.
Speaker 2: Of those young orange in there. And you've got what's
Speaker 2: what's her face? From Doctor Strange's Apprentice and Multiverse of Madness, the.
Speaker 1: Jaz Yeah, Javas, I guess.
Speaker 2: What's what's his name? Wanda's kid, Yeah, Wick and yeah,
Speaker 2: is it make any movie? No?
Speaker 1: Is that making money? So that's what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: I say, you did, Shan you. I agree with Mike.
Speaker 1: You put it in in the Thunderbolts, the one you
Speaker 1: put Miss Marble and at least Kden Thunderbolts. Good call
Speaker 1: to day.
Speaker 2: You know, there you go.
Speaker 1: So