WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.240 A man. 2 00:00:10.119 --> 00:00:11.560 We are. 3 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:17.760 We are, y'all. 4 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.160 We are joined for our Level Us Up segment by 5 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:30.920 Latasha mar Sean and Latasha. I came across natashaw on 6 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:37.439 the interwebs, okay, because she has an organization called Jump 7 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:41.960 Up Books. It's all about children's literacy and when we 8 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:47.320 find ourselves in a nation that is championing ignorance, not 9 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:55.359 just in culture but in policy. For instance, the Department 10 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:59.399 of Education, as we know, has now been dismantled. 11 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:05.599 And children K through twelve. 12 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:11.000 Education has now been moved to the Labor Department. And 13 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:13.719 I'm just gonna read what it says, just to lead 14 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:16.120 us into your segment. I'm just gonna read with the 15 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:18.480 Labor Department says that they're gonna do. 16 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:20.359 This is from the White House. This is from the 17 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:21.359 government's website. 18 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:24.920 The Labor Department is committed to working with the Department 19 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:28.200 of Education to ensure our K through twelve and post 20 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:36.159 secondary education programs prepare students for today and tomorrow's workforce demands. 21 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:41.280 I don't even need to read the rest because that 22 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:45.400 is a very thinly veiled language for We're just gonna 23 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:46.640 teach you how to be used. 24 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:47.760 That's all. 25 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:52.079 We're teaching you, and we know that literacy is a 26 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:56.560 key component to being able to move outside of the 27 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:59.159 realms of control. So hello, Ms Marsham, thank you for 28 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:05.519 joining us, and so talk to us about Jump Up Books. 29 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:07.920 What made you start Jump Up Books, how you got 30 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.240 involved in children's literacy, all the things. 31 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:17.080 Okay, all right, So lots to unpack because this administration. 32 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:18.639 Oh my god, oh my god. 33 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:26.960 Yes, but I've been basically a community organizer, I would say, 34 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:28.639 but I throw my own events. 35 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:30.639 You know, I where are you based? 36 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:34.840 I'm based in I'm in Inland Empire, Sanburgadino. 37 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:38.400 Okay, yeah, but I've lived in Redlands before. 38 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.639 It's kind of adjacent to here, but it's basically in 39 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:42.520 London Empire, that whole thing. 40 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:45.080 And there's a lot of for those who don't know. 41 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:51.719 California, Yeah, California and the I e all day shout 42 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:53.120 out to all of us. 43 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:56.400 Lord knows, you know, we get forgotten. They only about. 44 00:02:56.280 --> 00:03:02.919 LA and yeah, it's real here. We basically move here 45 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:06.319 for all different reasons. But point is, we'll get there. 46 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.319 But I have been doing community organization pretty much on 47 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:15.159 my own here in San Bernardino for over I mean, 48 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:18.439 I was doing things back with the public Access channel 49 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:20.639 and that had to be like that was like two 50 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:21.479 thousand and nine. 51 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:26.560 So yeah, And I would my own money. 52 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:29.159 You know, go out and give backpacks and books and 53 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:30.840 I would just you know, I would talk to the 54 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:34.199 you know how people say, oh, you don't know your 55 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:36.599 you know your who your mayor is or who your 56 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:38.400 you know the coroner or whoever. 57 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:41.199 I'm in their office. I was in the co partner's office. 58 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:45.439 I've been writing for the newspaper, trying to ring the alarm, like, hey, guys, 59 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:48.560 something bad is happening. And then you know, I find 60 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:50.159 out certain things about them as well. 61 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:52.680 Been to the city council meetings. 62 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:55.960 I can tell you guys, it's it's a mess. 63 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:58.120 You know how you're dismissed. 64 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:03.199 And not only I know that there is yes, absolutely 65 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:06.560 being black, yes, but they dismiss anybody that's not going 66 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:08.639 with it. You really get dismissed, you know, of course 67 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.719 if you're a black person. But I'm saying like, if 68 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:14.919 you're not going with whatever the agenda is, no, they 69 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:16.959 don't have no time for you. And then a lot 70 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:21.319 of the organizations you have to be very careful, very 71 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:26.439 clique ish for whatever reason, just being honest, that's from 72 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:28.920 a person on the ground. I don't consider myself an 73 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.639 activist because I feel like when you take on that 74 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:36.680 role as I'm an activist. 75 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:36.879 That's a lot, you know. 76 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:40.199 I I've done things, try to, you know, help, But 77 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:44.240 I do feel like, in my opinion, you're an activist. 78 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:48.800 Are for me. 79 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:50.680 I feel like I'm a person that just wants to help, 80 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:53.240 but I really want to genuinely help. 81 00:04:55.040 --> 00:05:00.759 Yeah, the term activist makes it seem like there's a 82 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:04.160 job for it makes it seem like. 83 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:06.040 That is true. It's supposed to be a part of 84 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:07.959 your walk. Yeah, I get that. 85 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:12.480 Yeah, Okay, Okay, they're not You're okay, the activists. 86 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.959 And that's what I've really been saying, like and honestly, 87 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:17.360 I don't and I will get the jump. 88 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:18.079 I'm sorry you guys. 89 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.759 I'm talking all over the place, but I wanted to 90 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:23.480 just land this really quickly. I think that that's the 91 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:27.079 problem that we do think that it is something big 92 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:31.120 or huge that everybody you know, But also I don't understand, 93 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.160 even before all the drama and the mess that we 94 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:39.199 are in, how people cannot care. There's lots of people 95 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:42.319 sleeping outside, but anyway. 96 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:43.240 We'll we'll, we'll get there. 97 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:45.279 But how I came up with jump Up for School, 98 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.720 Actually it was inspired by my daughter. 99 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:52.160 I have. I have two daughters. 100 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:56.680 My oldest daughter she was really struggling and just wasn't 101 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.720 finding her place. And then my younger daughter just full 102 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:04.519 speed head right, it's always and I was and I 103 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:08.120 was wondering, like what is going on? And they said 104 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:10.439 that there's a few types of kids, but you either 105 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:12.959 have a really good test taker or you have a 106 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.720 child that's really afraid to you. 107 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:16.040 Know, just. 108 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:19.519 They don't really know where they're going wrong. 109 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.600 But something's missing foundationally, and so we had to get 110 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.560 to the bottom of that. Found out really quickly, like 111 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:30.639 a lot of people get a little offended about how. 112 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:33.639 They get offended about. 113 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:38.240 Things that they feel that they should know, especially and 114 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:40.399 you can be talking to anyone of any age. 115 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:42.360 I'll and I'll just give you guys some stats. 116 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:47.639 So they according to the National Education it's like a 117 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:52.279 report card that comes out, it's the National Educational Literacy Program, 118 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:58.879 and they tell you of fourth graders are not reading 119 00:06:58.920 --> 00:06:59.680 they're reading on. 120 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:01.800 Like a uh, they're not reading on. 121 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:08.040 Level right, and then the proficient children they're reading on 122 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:12.839 like a they're not proficient. It's just they they've lowered 123 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:16.120 the bar so low that proficiency. 124 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:17.879 Actually isn't what it's supposed to be. 125 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:22.199 And the crisis that we're all in that they keep 126 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:27.120 calling a literary crisis, we're all in it, and this 127 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:28.800 is a very few people. 128 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.120 It takes critical thinking, memory and. 129 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:36.079 Those foundational skills to build a really strong reader, right 130 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:40.759 and practice. You have to read all the time. Many 131 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:43.720 people we just don't, and a lot of. 132 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:47.920 It is time. But yeah, that's that's what's going on. 133 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:54.439 So tell us about how jump Up, Jump Up Bose works. 134 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:58.480 Yes, okay, so so jump up for school. It basically 135 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:01.879 is a book club. But the difference between our book 136 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:05.600 club and everybody else's is you have to unlock the 137 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:08.759 next class for our book club, and you do that 138 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:12.800 by reading and we in within the text. You will 139 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.399 get different keywords and different clues and it will tell you, 140 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.720 but you have to read the whole text and then 141 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:20.279 you unlock the next. 142 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:21.360 Class to go to the book club. 143 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:24.720 And it just keeps going on, and it takes a 144 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.399 child from where they are, you know, wherever they are 145 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:32.200 when it comes to like their learning. You know, I'm 146 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:36.639 sorry I'm getting, but yeah, where they are with reading 147 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:39.159 and understanding, comprehension all those things. 148 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.120 And I do partner with other educators and things like. 149 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.279 That because for me, you know, I'm coming more from 150 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:49.120 a space of I know that we need this program. 151 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:50.399 I know we need good teachers. 152 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:54.440 I know tons of teachers and tutors and everything, and 153 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:57.559 I was so I bring them together and they will 154 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:00.279 come up with different prompts and they'll come in and 155 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:03.879 talk about whatever their favorite book is when they were kids, 156 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.080 when they were their ages, different things like that, and 157 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:11.039 then they'll just you know, present it to the child 158 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:14.519 and when the kids read it and things like that, 159 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:17.519 they basically are able to unlock the next course. 160 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:18.279 They can move on. 161 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.039 But we all move on as a course together, so 162 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.559 no child is like, you know, sitting back there. 163 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:28.559 So who do you feel is utilizing Jump up for 164 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:30.000 School Book Club the most? 165 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:31.440 Is it homeschool parents? 166 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.399 Is it just parents in general who are trying to 167 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:41.200 supplement the literacy teaching that school is not necessarily providing. 168 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:46.360 Usually it's kind of an array of all those parents. 169 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:49.360 We really do try to focus on the homeschool parents though, 170 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:52.639 because they need it the most, and they especially need 171 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:55.759 the engagement because a lot of kids they lack social skills. 172 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:58.080 And I know probably listen this, you'll think I do too. 173 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.440 Mine is more of I'm out of my comfort zone 174 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:03.919 because I plan on being at home. 175 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:07.440 Well, you're definitely in a car and you're holding a phone, 176 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.320 so that doesn't make this easy. 177 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:17.279 And now you have no service, So there's that. The service. 178 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:20.120 Does not. 179 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:23.519 I don't know why what. 180 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:26.759 Happened, but just so y'all know, I really don't like 181 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:28.159 any of you inn folk when they sit in their car, 182 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:32.279 just so y'all know, because it's too many distractions. 183 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:35.080 It looks crazy. I don't know what's going on. 184 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:39.799 And then this happens because we're on the freaking cell 185 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:47.000 These cell phones they're not you know, they're not it. 186 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:56.039 I I wait for her to come back. 187 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:00.519 But you know this, this is so necessary because I 188 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.279 don't think enough of you all. Understable Brandon, I could 189 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:06.399 not find that word. I was looking for stable, and 190 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:07.679 it was just eluding. 191 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:10.639 Me what I think. 192 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:15.720 Y'all also need to understand parents who may not and 193 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:17.080 I know you might be like you're not a parent, 194 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:17.639 don't say anything. 195 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:18.519 I'm gonna say what I want. 196 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:25.039 School is not enough school is not doing enough. That's 197 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:28.120 not a shade to the parents, that's not a shade 198 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:34.639 to the teachers. The school is literally not designed to 199 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:41.360 do enough. So you end up having to actually have 200 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:50.159 a curriculum mind around the child. That's not just an 201 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:55.639 extracurricular activities. That's also in how you exist, how like 202 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:59.279 you're raising your home. I will say that I was 203 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:01.440 raised in a home that had a curriculum. 204 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:05.840 I wasn't just going to school when I was home. 205 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:12.879 There was always education present in my zeitgeist. 206 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:15.000 My room always had books. 207 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:19.559 I was always given toys that had. 208 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:20.919 Education aspects to them. 209 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:27.360 I always had Sesame Street or picture pages. No, I 210 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:30.960 mean shade, but I always had Zubalie Zoo. There was 211 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:37.559 always educational programming present for me. And I was also 212 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:42.679 given access to listen to adults speak. So I was 213 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:47.919 also not simply just around students or kids, right, So 214 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.600 I was able to also hear like adult conversation and 215 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:55.559 not adult conversation like you know, things that are that 216 00:12:55.639 --> 00:13:02.840 are inappropriate, but simply just mature learned like learned people talking. 217 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:07.120 And I know that that is a huge reason to 218 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:11.559 why I also developed the way that I am my 219 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:14.200 mom never spoke to me like a kid. It's not 220 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:17.320 to say that she didn't have a softness, but she 221 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:21.039 never spoke to me like budget. Like she would ask 222 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:24.639 me like what do you want? So yes, and why 223 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:30.480 it's free? Like I heard more words, and I was 224 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:35.279 always being challenged to think, like I remember, because my 225 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.039 mom is a nurse, Like I couldn't say someone has 226 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:38.919 a baby in their belly. I had to say they 227 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:41.480 have a baby in their womb. I remember always being 228 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:47.279 corrected with and uh, saying I couldn't say uh Nikia 229 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:51.320 and me it's Nickkia, and I it's Nikkia. 230 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:56.080 And I you know. And then I was also. 231 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:01.519 Along with being read to every single name, I was 232 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:05.159 also tested. I don't know test is the right word, 233 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:07.200 but my mom had this book called The Student's Companion, 234 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:12.240 and so you know, she made the concept of learning interesting. 235 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:20.240 So whether it was about learning like types of geography 236 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:23.279 and names of animals, et cetera, et cetera, like that 237 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:27.360 was always present in my zeitgeist. And then I was 238 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.919 always reading at a higher level than the class I 239 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.039 was in because my mom was also always doing additional reading. 240 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:38.159 There was always work books, there was always something else 241 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:39.200 and let me tell you something. 242 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:41.960 If you got to bribe your children, then bribe your children. 243 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:44.600 Do this work. 244 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.759 But and I'm gonna give you some ice cream. Fine, 245 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.240 people be acting like, no, they have to want to 246 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:54.320 do it. No they don't, No, they don't. You don't 247 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:55.360 want to go to work. 248 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:57.639 You go to work because there's a check on. 249 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.600 The other side. 250 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:01.600 Now, Latasha, why. 251 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:02.080 Are you in the car? 252 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:05.879 I am in the car because I have a husky 253 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.639 that is seventy pounds and it's the holidays, so usually 254 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:13.240 super quiet, right, but my neighbors are having people over 255 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:17.879 and he's flipping out. So and look, and I went 256 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.159 to the library. I tried to get a private room. 257 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:21.679 It's booked, and I'm like. 258 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:24.919 This is what it's gonna get me, Like, this is 259 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:25.600 what we're doing. 260 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:30.080 Why? And then what's worse is I stayed up like 261 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:31.039 for days. 262 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.639 I know exactly. You know how Jumble for school works. 263 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.440 We help kids write their own books, that's the goal, 264 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:42.840 and basically they unlock chapters as we go. Okay, so 265 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:45.600 we write all together, all in the same room. Even 266 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:47.120 the parents get involved with this. 267 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.799 So this is not simply about reading. It's the fact 268 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:53.639 that literacy is also about writing. 269 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:56.320 Yes, that's what I do. 270 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:01.200 I wrote my first book in twenty ten, self published, 271 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:05.799 and I learned very quickly that writing is rewriting. You 272 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:08.360 have to like, no matter how much you think you're 273 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:11.679 paying attention to detail, get those extra people in the room, 274 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:14.919 have focused groups, all that stuff, and we do all 275 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:18.039 of that with the kids, all of that editing, writing. 276 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.440 They go through the whole process, and we partner with 277 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.639 local book clubs take the kids so they can get 278 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:28.080 you know, sign books and do all get the whole 279 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:29.080 author experience. 280 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:31.360 Yeah, that's that's the goal. 281 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:36.159 I mean, I think it's so necessary to point out that, y'all, 282 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:41.200 literacy is also writing because that's the element I think 283 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:44.200 so much in the US people are missing right that 284 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.320 you can read, but you can't write, so you can't 285 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:49.679 even understand what you're reading. 286 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:52.120 And that's what it's about. 287 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:57.080 It's the comprehension part and and and also memory with 288 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.159 because you can read all day, but if you're not 289 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.320 retaining that, that memory has to be sharped. So the 290 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.039 more you do it, it's like a muscle, you exercise it. 291 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.519 That's the main thing. And having educators in the room 292 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:14.799 with the kids helping them step by step like, you know, 293 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:19.079 whatever they're uh, whatever they're missing. And then there's also kids. 294 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.559 I'm like, we have an eleven year old and she's 295 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:25.039 I tell you, the toughest interview I've ever been on 296 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:26.759 was with the eleven year old because she's like did 297 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:28.480 you read this? And have you read this? 298 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:29.799 And did you you know? 299 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:32.799 And she's on it and she's and she's like, you know, 300 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:36.640 I really I don't mind helping other kids, but hey, 301 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.000 you know, basically I do this. So and she ran 302 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.200 her own book club in her school, so you have 303 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.759 to meet and and and her parents. Her mom's watching, 304 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:51.599 So hi, Jazzy and Josie. 305 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:54.880 Are you do you have the criteria? Yeah? Yeah, for real. 306 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:58.319 And I tell everybody that her. And then we have 307 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:00.880 a little two year old. He's not in the book 308 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.440 club yet, he's two years old. But this little boy 309 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:05.880 is so smart. His name is Oakland. Shout out to 310 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:10.480 him and his mom, so sweet, super smart. This his well, 311 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:13.960 his mom is an educator and so. But but I 312 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.079 also want people to know we have kids that struggle 313 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:19.039 to so don't think that you know, oh my gosh, 314 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:21.920 because I just don't put a lot on Oh my 315 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:22.920 kid is so smart. 316 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.480 It's like, are they a good test taker. 317 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.240 Or you know, are they really enjoying what they're doing, 318 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:30.920 because you know that's the main thing. 319 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:37.839 I mean, I was a good short answer test taker. However, 320 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:41.240 once you give me multiple choices, I'm like, what. 321 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:41.720 Are we doing? 322 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:42.519 What are we doing? 323 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:46.240 If you can see and getting out of there? 324 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:53.680 Yeah, let me write an essay now, look that's me. 325 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:56.039 That's me all day. If I can write an essay 326 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:57.200 and another thing. 327 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:00.680 I know you may not think that today, but you 328 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:04.039 know usually if I get an interview, I got it. 329 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:06.119 No matter what it is, no matter what it is 330 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:07.599 you're sitting in. 331 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:10.039 We're fascinating that you're sitting in a car that's not moving, 332 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:11.000 but you have a seatbelt on. 333 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:12.559 That's what we're fascinating about. 334 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:17.359 Of course, you know what. I love it and listen 335 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:19.039 you up every day. 336 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:22.400 If that is to hold you right, like the seatbelt 337 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:24.960 is just to hold you like a weighted blanket, we 338 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:25.559 respect it. 339 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:26.440 Let me tell you. 340 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:27.279 Let me tell you. 341 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:30.160 Okay, I have a friend and she was in a 342 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:32.960 park car and somebody just came by and hit her, 343 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:38.039 and the guy flew through the window, but her window 344 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:41.920 but not her I'm telling you keep. 345 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:46.920 Your seatbelt on. What are saying? 346 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:56.359 It's the law and it's a good idea, yo. 347 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:01.319 Like I'm my g I re mm, I'm completely. 348 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:03.039 Tanked on the mask. But that was allays gonna happen. 349 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:04.200 But I got it perfect on. 350 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:08.279 The essay, right, And you know what, I rarely meet 351 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:09.480 people that are great at both. 352 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:11.640 Rarely it's either one or the other. 353 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:14.400 But I think and another thing that we do, we 354 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:15.839 talk about our toolbox. 355 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:19.680 You reading is not just I read this type. 356 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:22.440 Of book, I read this thing, I you know, whatever 357 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:24.799 it is. It is literally everything that you're put in 358 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:26.920 your toolkit like anything else. If you want to lose weight, 359 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.000 if you want to whatever it may be, whatever your 360 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:31.440 goal is, you're gonna have a toolkit. Even in therapy, 361 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:34.960 when I went through therapy, my therapist was like, Uh, 362 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:37.359 you're gonna need your toolkit. You know, are you doing 363 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:39.680 all the things? Are you drinking the water or you 364 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:40.839 you know, all of those things. 365 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.359 So what would you say are some of the toolkits 366 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:46.480 that you're putting together for the kids in terms of literacy. 367 00:20:46.799 --> 00:20:47.279 That we do. 368 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:50.720 The first thing that I do is I tell them 369 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:54.400 that this is a living, moving organism, right, because I 370 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:59.599 think that you gotta try. It is a multi pronged undertaking. Okay, 371 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:01.839 so you got to try a lot of things because 372 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:04.400 everything does not work on the same child. Everybody's going 373 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:06.200 to get a syllabus of course and just kind of 374 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:07.960 tell them, you know, these are some of the topics 375 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:10.079 that I would like to get to and talk about. 376 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:13.319 But individually, I'm getting to know the child is so 377 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:16.119 every child is going to want it to need to 378 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:18.400 know a different thing, so the prompts are going to 379 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:21.359 be different. But I also tell the other kids that 380 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:25.559 are in there, hey, we got to make space for 381 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:28.880 this person, because I think that we really get caught 382 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:31.240 up in I did this before, I've done that before. 383 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:34.200 So I do a lot of unlearning with my program. 384 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:37.200 It's a whole lot of unlearning because if you come 385 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:40.079 in there with an attitude of well, I already know this, 386 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.720 so why am I doing this. I do have an 387 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:44.960 exercise where I have them tie their shoe, no matter 388 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.640 who they are, even if they're learning to do it, 389 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:50.880 and the reason that I do that. And then after 390 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:53.880 I have them ti a shoe, I teach them something 391 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:56.839 new that they don't know. They will have the same reaction, 392 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:02.640 same frustration, same anger everything with both tasks. And I'm like, 393 00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:06.240 so you're mad about something that you've mastered and you're 394 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:09.079 mad about something you don't know. And it really is 395 00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:14.240 a very EQO, you know, leveling. Yeah, yeah, but we 396 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:16.759 need programs that are out of the box that change, 397 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:21.440 that are not so stringent, because our children aren't stringent, 398 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:25.519 you know, they're they're human beings and and they're just 399 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:27.640 trying to figure this stuff out and you know, they're 400 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:27.960 just not. 401 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:28.480