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<v Speaker 1>Something something somethings's so.

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<v Speaker 2>So so.

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<v Speaker 3>So so.

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<v Speaker 4>So so.

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<v Speaker 5>Our way, our anthropology is not derived by human psychology

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<v Speaker 5>or you know, electirical.

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<v Speaker 6>Data from I T or something like this.

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<v Speaker 5>It's derived from the revealed aspect of what we see

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<v Speaker 5>in prosology. And so there's no real way to diagnose

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<v Speaker 5>man's problem and to understand man and man's anthropology.

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<v Speaker 7>As I said, without the right theology, m.

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<v Speaker 3>The no one sing sing sing.

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<v Speaker 6>The logos is the icon of Father, and man is

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<v Speaker 6>the icon of God. We are the image of God.

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<v Speaker 4>And dire wave three, dire Wave three. The artists reflect

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<v Speaker 4>the soul, the spirit. The architecture reflects the soul the spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>So therefore you can sleep. The degeneracy, can see the degradation.

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<v Speaker 5>And the loss of sets, the loss of the idea

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<v Speaker 5>of it being harmony, order, symmetry. In esthetics, it's connected.

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<v Speaker 2>With the loss of a conference and philosoph think of yours.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just one second, I had to turn the music off.

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<v Speaker 2>Got you.

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<v Speaker 5>How are y'all doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey? Not bad? How are you jay?

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<v Speaker 5>It was a tough day, tough day. Sorry, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Glad to have you guys on. Glad you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad to be here. All right.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, well, it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 5>I got the book. I'm about fifty sixty pages in.

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<v Speaker 5>I've kind of skipped around a little bit just because

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<v Speaker 5>it's a b So yeah, it's long, But thank you

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<v Speaker 5>guys for coming on. And I wanna tell everybody that

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<v Speaker 5>I'm joined by the Collins Brothers. I hope you guys

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<v Speaker 5>are doing good tonight. Everybody out there, be sure and

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<v Speaker 5>hit the thumbs up and hit give us a share

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<v Speaker 5>if you would, And we're going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 5>their new book that they've just put out, invoking the

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<v Speaker 5>Beyond the Contient Riff, Mythologized Menaces, and the Quest for

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<v Speaker 5>the New Man. So if you guys want to, you

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<v Speaker 5>want to give us a little bit of a background.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it's been about five or six years since

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<v Speaker 5>we did an interview, so catch us up on.

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<v Speaker 2>What you guys have been up to.

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<v Speaker 6>Tell us what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, well, as you know, in two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six, we had released the updated, revised

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<v Speaker 2>edition of the Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship and we

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<v Speaker 2>decided that now was the you know that. Uh, shortly thereafter,

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<v Speaker 2>we we had a follow up in mind, and we

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<v Speaker 2>knew what we wanted to do, what we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>explore as a thesis for the new you know, forthcoming book.

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<v Speaker 2>But we started doing the manuscript and it wasn't coming

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<v Speaker 2>out very good. It was actually it was coming out

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<v Speaker 2>really terrible. So I took it, scrapped it, and started

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<v Speaker 2>rewriting and just uh we you know, every every year,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was like, oh, this year will be

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<v Speaker 2>the year that we released the follow up. This is

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<v Speaker 2>this is the year. This is the year. And every

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<v Speaker 2>year something new would come up with you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>the research, we'd find something new to write on. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there was a point at which I found

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<v Speaker 2>that the structure of the chapters just wasn't working, So

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<v Speaker 2>I went back reconfigured the uh the chapter outline of

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<v Speaker 2>the book, and uh, you know, it just it just

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<v Speaker 2>what what I thought was initially going to be maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a year and a year and a half turned into

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<v Speaker 2>seven years. But uh, by and large, what we what

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<v Speaker 2>we you know, we just we just we what we

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<v Speaker 2>It started off as just really uh, you know, an

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<v Speaker 2>acclaration of the topic of UFOs as a terrestrial based deception,

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<v Speaker 2>which uh that are our research into that particular topic

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<v Speaker 2>was really jump started by a friend of ours by

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<v Speaker 2>the name of Michael Corbyn. He was the talk show

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<v Speaker 2>host of the nationally syndicated radio talk show known as

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<v Speaker 2>a Closer Look, and unfortunately he passed away. What what

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<v Speaker 2>year two thousand and two thousand? Yeah, yeah, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>but what we found was was that, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>found that we wanted to explore this topic of the

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<v Speaker 2>beyond in all of its possible iterations. And so obviously

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<v Speaker 2>when you don't narrow your focus, it becomes a larger

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<v Speaker 2>and larger, a larger and larger, you know, cheeseburger to

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<v Speaker 2>take a bite out of.

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<v Speaker 5>So to speak.

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<v Speaker 4>And so.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it better to get the book on Amazon or

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<v Speaker 5>I Universe or where do I need to put the

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<v Speaker 5>link for the best place to get it?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the best place to get it as I Universe,

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<v Speaker 2>especially since Amazons. As I know you probably are aware,

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon takes a larger cut of the royalties. And also

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not not you know, given recent developments with Amazon's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, propisity for censorship, I'm not especially not especially enthusiast.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I just wanted to add the link for the

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<v Speaker 5>people in the chat and for the.

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<v Speaker 2>If I may, sure, sure, if I may also add

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<v Speaker 2>the print copy of the book admittedly is a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>it is a pretty steep amount. It cost a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>steep amount. We did not set the price. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the price set by the publisher. I'm assuming that it

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<v Speaker 2>cost as much as it does so they can cover

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<v Speaker 2>printing costs. So fortunately there's also a kindle edition which

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<v Speaker 2>is considerably less. So you know, if you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't have a lot of disposable income,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, then you can always do the kindle or addition.

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<v Speaker 5>Gotcha, So I didn't mean to interrupt. Go ahead. So

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<v Speaker 5>you were talking about getting into wanting to write about

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<v Speaker 5>the beyond, And of course you guys had written many

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<v Speaker 5>years ago about the ascendency of the scientific dictatorship, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so glad that you tackled this issue of especially

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<v Speaker 5>the UFO deception. I think you know, it was one

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<v Speaker 5>of the essays that you guys had written a long

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<v Speaker 5>time ago alien smoke screen that really opened me up

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<v Speaker 5>to the possibility of a military intelligence, deep state kind

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<v Speaker 5>of background to what was really going on with a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of this alien stuff. And then of course you

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<v Speaker 5>guys take it in a new direction with in the

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<v Speaker 5>book with the sizeable chapter, which I've read the most

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<v Speaker 5>of so far, uh ripped from Heaven. So before we

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<v Speaker 5>get to that, though, let's let's maybe rewind and get

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<v Speaker 5>to the early on sections where you cover the Enlightenment,

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<v Speaker 5>you cover the the I guess you could say the

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<v Speaker 5>Darwinian origins of all of this stuff too. So how

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<v Speaker 5>do we get from Enlightenment and kant And maybe you

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<v Speaker 5>could speak to what the rift is in the title

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<v Speaker 5>of the book up to where we're gonna go with Darwin?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, Okay, Well we discuss what's known as what

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<v Speaker 2>we call the Kantient rift. And forgive me for coining

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<v Speaker 2>another neo logism. We live in the day and age

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<v Speaker 2>where the coinage of neo logisms just seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>a national pastime. But the Kantian rift is an appellation

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<v Speaker 2>to sign to the epistemalile disjunction between phenomenon, that is

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<v Speaker 2>to say, appearances and newmanon, that is to say, the

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<v Speaker 2>thing in itself. And forgive me if I'm re treading

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<v Speaker 2>familiar ground with you, Jay, I know that you're more

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<v Speaker 2>than you know literate and Kantian philosophy, but I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that it would probably be best to tread

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<v Speaker 2>through some of it for the yeah, for the audience assurance.

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<v Speaker 2>But this bifurcation between newmanon and phenomenon, well, it was

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<v Speaker 2>imposed upon epistemology by the enlightened theoretician in Manuel Kank,

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<v Speaker 2>who of course lives from seventeen twenty four to eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>zero four. Now clarity of definitions of very important and

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<v Speaker 2>philosophical discussions. So for the edification of the audience, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>try to define phenomenon neumenon as simply as possible within

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<v Speaker 2>the context of contient epistemology. In kantient terms, phenomenon refers

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<v Speaker 2>to objects that are discerned through sense perception, which, on

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<v Speaker 2>Kant is supposedly faulty. Supposedly since perception structures the external

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<v Speaker 2>world in a manner that is potentially disproportionate with actual reality,

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<v Speaker 2>so phenomena amount to mere appearances. Man can only infer

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<v Speaker 2>so much from these observable occurrences, so he must remain

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<v Speaker 2>perennially agnostic concerning the true nature of those objects portrayed

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<v Speaker 2>by phenomena. Phenomena are, to put it in platonic terms,

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<v Speaker 2>phenomena are but the shadows dancing upon the wall of

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<v Speaker 2>the cave. They're just vague representations of the actual objects.

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<v Speaker 2>In contradistinction, Newmanon refers to the objects that must be

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<v Speaker 2>discerned in the dependent of sense perception, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>with constant invocation of this term that we're confronted with

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<v Speaker 2>a considerable amount of terminological inexactitude. Schopenhauer actually took Kant

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<v Speaker 2>to task for this. In the pre conting world of

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<v Speaker 2>ancient philosophy, numana occupied the transcendent order, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>typically discerned through intuitive reasoning. For example, Platonic ideas and

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<v Speaker 2>the Platonic forms qualify as numena. For the Platonic realists

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<v Speaker 2>Proo close the forms were thoughts within the mind of God.

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<v Speaker 2>But Kant he redefined numanon as the danga on seekh

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<v Speaker 2>or that is just German for the thing in itself,

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<v Speaker 2>objects as they exist apart from man's potentially deceptive faculties

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<v Speaker 2>of empirical observation so on count on, the humanities perception

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<v Speaker 2>of the empirical world was restricted to just these untrustworthy representations.

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<v Speaker 2>The newminal world remains perennially imperceptible and chaotic, and as

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<v Speaker 2>a result, gone is the harmonious cosmos you have of

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<v Speaker 2>ancient Greek philosophy. And also gone is the beautiful creation

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<v Speaker 2>that God deemed good in the Book of Genesis. So

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<v Speaker 2>gone is the cosmological optimism of orthodox Christianity. But all

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<v Speaker 2>that remains is this alien world of appearances, and man

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<v Speaker 2>can have no experience apart from that which is framed

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<v Speaker 2>for him by the spatiotemporal matrix. Man becomes just this

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<v Speaker 2>lost cartographer whose mental maps of reality are woefully suboptimal.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we have epistemological barrier that severs the ad

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<v Speaker 2>equation between the human mind and reality. We call this

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<v Speaker 2>epistemological barrier the Kantian rift. Now, with man's consignment to

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<v Speaker 2>this epistemological prison, we see the confiscation of a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of philosophical contraband, if you will, particularly derided by modernity,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's metaphysics. The philosophical discipline of metaphysics, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>concerns itself with the discernment of reality's ultimate nature and

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<v Speaker 2>its structure. And of course this discipline is neutered if

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<v Speaker 2>consposition of indefinite epistemic incertitude told Swag, after all, we

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<v Speaker 2>can only discern the order and structure of reality. If

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<v Speaker 2>our epistemic faculties are trustworthy, and according to cant they

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<v Speaker 2>are not, so, reality just remains eternally unintelligible, and even

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<v Speaker 2>greater ramifications follow from this indefinite epistemic incertitude. The cherished

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<v Speaker 2>metaphysical certainties of the classical era, the soul, the transcendent order, God,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those are relegated to the fog of agnosticism,

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<v Speaker 2>and such a world would be inaccessible to an angel

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<v Speaker 2>announcing salvation. In fact, no savior could ever redeem such

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<v Speaker 2>a world or a sin from it. The slightest intimations

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<v Speaker 2>of the transcend have been purged, and all that remains

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<v Speaker 2>is terra incognita, a chaotic, imperceptible, impenetrable world. So ultimately,

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<v Speaker 2>there goes the soteriological claims of Orthodox Christianity, there goes

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<v Speaker 2>the cosmological optimism of Orthodox Christianity, and there also goes

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<v Speaker 2>the harmonious cosmos of ancient Greek philosophy. But if this,

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<v Speaker 2>this teleological world rendered by the kantem Rift, sounds familiar,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because it echoes the cosmological sentiments of an ancient

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<v Speaker 2>heresy that was almost ubiquitous in Jerusalem after the destruction

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<v Speaker 2>of the Temple in AD seventy. Now, many scholars argue

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<v Speaker 2>that this heresy was probably it probably originated prior to

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<v Speaker 2>the Temple's destruction, but nevertheless, its influence was almost certainly

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<v Speaker 2>strengthened by the pervasive despair that was engendered by the

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<v Speaker 2>destruction of the Temple. It was a very catastrophic event

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<v Speaker 2>left a lot of people traumatized. After all, the Temple's

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<v Speaker 2>nullification of God's covenant with his chosen people. So if

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<v Speaker 2>God's promises no longer hold sway, then there's good reason

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<v Speaker 2>the world that's ontically divorced from the Creator invariably dis

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<v Speaker 2>cosmological pessimism we see endemic to gnosticism, which challenged the

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<v Speaker 2>early Christian Church. Now I realized that an examination of

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<v Speaker 2>gnosticism may seem tangential, but it actually will prove to

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<v Speaker 2>this exploration of the beyond. I'm just going to offer

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<v Speaker 2>a rather truncated overview of the heresy a more comprehensive

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<v Speaker 2>examinations offered in our book. To be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's this very extended examination of gnosissism, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes it becomes more pertinent when we consider the

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<v Speaker 2>formative ethos within which cons ideas will formed emulated the Gnosticism. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>cosmic deities parent desires, and that's Sophia, of course. And

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<v Speaker 2>of moral orientation. Evil for the Gnostic was viewed not

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<v Speaker 2>as an actual animated essence that was interwoven into creation.

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<v Speaker 2>The curse and creation were ontologically inseparable. And this understanding

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<v Speaker 2>of corruption contrasted very sharply with the ancient Church Fathers.

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<v Speaker 2>As you well know, you're very well read in patricistics.

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<v Speaker 2>The Church Fathers believe that evil was not some independent substance.

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<v Speaker 2>being and as such no place among the existent. While

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<v Speaker 2>its effects are painfully real, evil is not real in

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<v Speaker 2>and of itself. Evil basically can be analogized to cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Cold does not possess a positive ontological status. There's not

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<v Speaker 2>some concrete thing in the world called cold. Rather, it's

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<v Speaker 2>only a condition. It's a condition precipitated by the absence

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<v Speaker 2>of heat. Cold exists only as a privation of fourth

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not That's not to say that cold is illusory.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that cold is very much real, as is

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<v Speaker 2>evidenced by well one word for you, Texas. But if

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<v Speaker 2>we look at texts right now, we look at you know, failure,

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<v Speaker 2>at their paragrid we see the effects of cold are

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<v Speaker 2>medical emergencies like hypothermia and what have you. But cold

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<v Speaker 2>itself does not exist as a tangible reality, and likewise,

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<v Speaker 2>evil itself does not exist as a tangible reality. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it affects tangible reality through the intangible will, which

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<v Speaker 2>it affects through a privation of good. So evil's point

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<v Speaker 2>of origin is the intangible will with the tangible you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not the tangible world. Saint Maximus, the Saint Maximus is

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<v Speaker 2>the confessor who he puts it probably the best I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's He puts it in my favorite terms among

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<v Speaker 2>the church fathers. He calls it a evil, a perfect nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So evil is this perfect not nothing? Since evil well

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<v Speaker 2>is a perfect nothing. The will that adopts evil's existential

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<v Speaker 2>trajectory inexhiberbly migrates back towards nothing. In this sense, evil

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<v Speaker 2>just represents an inversion of creatio ex nahilo or cratium

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<v Speaker 2>from nothing. You see that Saint Athanasius writes about this

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<v Speaker 2>on in the On the Incarnation, where God created everything

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<v Speaker 2>out of nothing, Evil returns everything to nothing, and those

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<v Speaker 2>who align their wills with evil migrate towards the oblivion

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<v Speaker 2>of non existence. And in this sense, evil is actually

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<v Speaker 2>just this self imlating impulse of a disordered will. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a consuming nothing, reducing the elemental constituents of creation to nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>to non existence. Contrary to you know what, John Carpenter,

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<v Speaker 2>what have you believe? In Prince of Darkness? Evil's not

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<v Speaker 2>this swirling vat of listing that spits itself into.

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<v Speaker 5>People a pleasant set that a spoiling as green who

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<v Speaker 2>Evil and animated substances. Yeah, so, you know. So, basically

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<v Speaker 2>conflate error with the creative order is to just necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>associate corruption with the author of the created order. And

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<v Speaker 2>so we have That's why we have the musopheism there,

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<v Speaker 2>and error and falsity become the author himself. From the

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<v Speaker 2>Gnostic advantage point, the creator of the visible physical cosmos

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<v Speaker 2>must have been an error. And the creator was not

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<v Speaker 2>only an error, he was the error itself. He becomes

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<v Speaker 2>not just the originator of error, he's the mistake. And

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<v Speaker 2>any theology that really follows from that belief must either

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<v Speaker 2>condemn or exonerate God, and the Gnostics chose to do both.

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<v Speaker 2>In Gnostic theology, the exoneration of God basically entailed the

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<v Speaker 2>rejection of his office of creator. They believe that the real,

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<v Speaker 2>true God would have created nothing. God the Father had

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<v Speaker 2>to be completely disassociated from creation, and this radical disassociation

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<v Speaker 2>basically until divesting the true God of the office of creator.

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<v Speaker 2>Agnostissism basically divorced God from creation by just positing these

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculously elaborate cosmologies. You see these cosmologies all over pop

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<v Speaker 2>culture nowadays. Neil Gaimon, Neil Gaimon, in a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>his work he has he posits similar cosmologies where you

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<v Speaker 2>have just this endless pantheon of lesser deities and rigidly

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<v Speaker 2>tail you know, tiered heavenly locales. But these cosmologies not

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<v Speaker 2>only did they render the you know, the one true

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<v Speaker 2>God in the Gnostics belief, uh, absolutely trans mundane, and

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<v Speaker 2>that also camouflaged these antagonistic dualisms that they advanced, which

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<v Speaker 2>the early Church would have considered, uh, would have considered untenable. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But the the cosmological divorce uh that we see taking place,

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<v Speaker 2>it leaves man and nature in a state of absolute autonomy.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is and this is where we start to

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<v Speaker 2>see uh, contine philosophy come into view, because neither nature

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<v Speaker 2>nor man must comply with a divine law, because the

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<v Speaker 2>high God is isolated from creation and he can only

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<v Speaker 2>be known through secret occult you know knowledge, gnosis, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the legitimacy of which is entirely self referential. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have no sis. Why because I'm enlightened? Well why are

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<v Speaker 2>you enlightened?

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean you see kind of the self contradictory

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<v Speaker 2>nature of these claims, like, for instance, the Gnostics reference

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<v Speaker 2>to the flipbook book. The flickbook they believed to be

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<v Speaker 2>the evidence of the fact that reality was simula crim

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<v Speaker 2>They believe, you know, they had these old flip flickbooks,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, would simulate animate motion, kind of much

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<v Speaker 2>the way you know people make cartoons, and they believed

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<v Speaker 2>because these flip books could simulate motion, they believed that

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<v Speaker 2>that was evidence of the fact that reality was somehow

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<v Speaker 2>a simulacram. The problem is is that you're positing the

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So we see, we see, yeah, we see

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<v Speaker 2>the true contradictory nature of those claims. But nature need

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<v Speaker 2>not conform to it on you know, the nastic view

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<v Speaker 2>to any law but its own. It's it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>tangible attestation to the court of God, as Saint Paul

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<v Speaker 2>rises in the Book of Romans. It's just as ontologically.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, sure, yeah, no, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Can we can we talk about so you've laid out

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<v Speaker 5>that the rift between right, the the knowing, the object

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<v Speaker 5>and the mind, there's a there's a divide that puts there,

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<v Speaker 5>and of course it's a version of rehashed version of

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<v Speaker 5>the ancient gnostic mistake. And but but you do have

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of chapters early on that that harken back

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<v Speaker 5>to some of the old material that you guys had

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<v Speaker 5>done that I read many years ago, where you connected

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<v Speaker 5>the lodge and this full blas feed as well. Kind

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<v Speaker 5>of after the Enlightenment, you get this period of the

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<v Speaker 5>spread of the Goddess of reason and rationalism and the

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<v Speaker 5>very the Bavarian Illuminadi, and then we get to the

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<v Speaker 5>royal society and the lodges of freemasonry. So how can

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<v Speaker 5>we how can you kind of trace that ideological map

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<v Speaker 5>there from Enlightenment and Kant's rift to royal society and freemasonry.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure well with with Emmanual Kants, you know, epistemological disjunction,

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<v Speaker 2>the pistemological just junction of the Kantian rift, we have

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<v Speaker 2>the banishment of metaphysics, at least metaphysics and its traditional regulation,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course this dysteleological portrait of the world. Well, this,

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<v Speaker 2>this teleology subsequently contaminated science before before, before you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Emmanuel Kant and the likes of Sir Francis Bacon, science

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<v Speaker 2>was this quasi spiritual contemplation of intrinsic purposes. The discipline

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<v Speaker 2>of science actually initially presupposed the intelligibility of the cosmos.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, of course that that's a well founded

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<v Speaker 2>presupposition to hold, because if the cosmos were not intelligible,

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<v Speaker 2>then the scientist's efforts would be to understand the cosmos

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<v Speaker 2>would be futile. But theoretician Francis Bacon, who was a

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<v Speaker 2>the Helmet, and it was called the Order of the

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<v Speaker 2>Helmet because the helmet was a reference to the helmet

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<v Speaker 2>worn by the goddess Palosithene, which was the goddess of wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we see there with that, with the veneration

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<v Speaker 2>of that goddess, this kind of tacit autotheism, where it's

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<v Speaker 2>the elevation of reason to this this virtually deific status.

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<v Speaker 2>But he believed that nature could be forced to reveal

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<v Speaker 2>her secrets up through systematic excasion, and he believed that

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<v Speaker 2>this could happen once teleology was rejected. So he basically

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<v Speaker 2>endeavored to expunge teleology from scientific scientific uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>scientific inquiries and yeah, and so the problem is is

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<v Speaker 2>that with metaphysics, the relationship with metaphysics is very important

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<v Speaker 2>because metaphysics is prior to science. If you hold a

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<v Speaker 2>very errant metaphysical proposition, that typically presages science going awry

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<v Speaker 2>and science scientific data once it's the coupled from a

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate metaphysical framework. Ideological biases have carte Blanche and Bacon. Bacon.

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<v Speaker 2>He had ideological biases of his own, as is evidenced

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<v Speaker 2>by his pedigree with his membership and you know, an

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<v Speaker 2>esoteric speaker society, gnosticism and her meticism in other schools.

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<v Speaker 2>He for him, really his ideological bias was a will

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<v Speaker 2>to power, libido dominandi, a lust to dominate. And so

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<v Speaker 2>with him he insisted that all the study of purpose,

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<v Speaker 2>the purposes of things that should be confined to theology,

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<v Speaker 2>which was diminishing in terms of tenability. And he believed

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<v Speaker 2>that the sole purpose of science was the mastery of matter,

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<v Speaker 2>this cynical mastery of matter. And you see with the

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<v Speaker 2>British Royal Society, you see the Baconian school in full bloom.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course the British the British Royal Society was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, founded by Freemasons, and it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to the efforts of the British Royal Society that uh,

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<v Speaker 2>certain schools of thought such as Darwinism and Malthusianism were promulgated.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance, the ex Club, which is characterized by Adrian

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<v Speaker 2>Desmond and James Moore as as an invisible Masonic UH,

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<v Speaker 2>an invisible Masonic UH, you know, Darwinian lodge within the UH,

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<v Speaker 2>within the Royal Society. And that's his their characterization, not mine.

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<v Speaker 2>what they say that they managed to suppres all revelations

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<v Speaker 2>concerning the scandal, the the the phibious ake a lie

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<v Speaker 2>which really turned out just being an inanimate uh and

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<v Speaker 2>inanimate uh piece of gypsum. But they believe that it

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<v Speaker 2>represents mm hmm, yeah that and but but it was important,

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<v Speaker 2>legitimacy of of that particular you know, that particular uh belief,

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<v Speaker 2>that in turn, uh legitimizes the metaphysical claim of self creation,

413
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<v Speaker 2>which also affirms the sterior logical c of self salvation,

414
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:05.280
<v Speaker 2>which is gnostic. And so they had a vested interest

415
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:10.599
<v Speaker 2>in advancing that because that that basically upholds uphalled their

416
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 2>autotheistic belief that man was in tauto God. And so

417
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.960
<v Speaker 2>we see, but we see how concept set the stage

418
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:27.519
<v Speaker 2>for that by abolishing metaphysics and gives it gives rise

419
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>to this new cynical uh more cynical view of science.

420
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Science becomes science becomes basically just a means by which

421
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:43.639
<v Speaker 2>matter can be cynically manipulated. And and you know, basically, uh,

422
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 2>you sculpted into whatever form uh the ruined elite wished

423
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:51.559
<v Speaker 2>to to sculpt it into. And and following from that

424
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 2>we also see the anthroplile assumption that man is taboo raza,

425
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.840
<v Speaker 2>that he's a blink tablet. And so humanity can be resculpted,

426
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and as humanity has resculpted through means such as eugenics,

427
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:13.880
<v Speaker 2>which of course arose from Darwinism and social Darwinism, through

428
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 2>the proper configuration of society according to whatever utopian blueprint,

429
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:25.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever the utopian blueprints that they happen to

430
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.079
<v Speaker 2>hold a loft at the time, man can be gradually

431
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 2>transfigured and be apotheosized. And this we see with this

432
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 2>a just a hideous parody of the orthodox belief and theosis,

433
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:47.320
<v Speaker 2>which holds that, you know, man can be demonised, but

434
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 2>man is devionised through energies, not through essences. Man. Man

435
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:56.639
<v Speaker 2>is not devionized on the essential level. There remain ontological

436
00:42:56.719 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 2>distinctions between humanity and God. But that this is the

437
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.800
<v Speaker 2>project that the elite have been working towards. This is

438
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.159
<v Speaker 2>and that's that that's why it's in the subtitle of

439
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:14.239
<v Speaker 2>the book, the subtitle of course well being good quest

440
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.039
<v Speaker 2>for the new Man. That is what they have in mind,

441
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and that's why the elite have invoked the beyond. The

442
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:28.079
<v Speaker 2>beyond is basically a surrogate for divinity, since the metaphysical

443
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:35.039
<v Speaker 2>certainties of the classical era have been abolished now including

444
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:39.400
<v Speaker 2>the transcendent order in God. Now they now they have

445
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:43.239
<v Speaker 2>this terra incognita that they can populate with new gods

446
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.559
<v Speaker 2>and with new myths. And we see the invocation of

447
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 2>the beyond. We we we UH, we basically examine it

448
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:56.440
<v Speaker 2>for forms, if I believe for we we examine it

449
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 2>as invoked as the wrathful Earth Goddess, which we see

450
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:06.239
<v Speaker 2>with you know, the Green movement, radical environmentalism, and of

451
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:15.159
<v Speaker 2>course the wrathful Earth Goddess legitimized through the emulgation of Darwinism.

452
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:22.079
<v Speaker 2>But UH, the wrathful Earth Goddess demands recompense of humanity

453
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:26.320
<v Speaker 2>in the form of technological apartheid in population control. We

454
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:33.000
<v Speaker 2>examine it invoked as AI and technological singularity, where man

455
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:41.679
<v Speaker 2>basically abolishes himself and UH maybe becomes uh, divests himself

456
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:46.760
<v Speaker 2>of his biological the biological man and becomes you know,

457
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:54.280
<v Speaker 2>the transhuman uh, the transhuman oak ubermine. We UH examined

458
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.559
<v Speaker 2>the invocation of the beyond in the form of UH

459
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 2>the uh uh of course super the super weapon, which

460
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.840
<v Speaker 2>the super weapon. Of course, it assumed several forms in

461
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:12.960
<v Speaker 2>UH fiction. You know, it was beam weapons, it was

462
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:18.599
<v Speaker 2>poisonous gases, it was, but the tangible form that has assumed,

463
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 2>of course, was the atomic bomb. That was uh Leo Zillard,

464
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 2>who was inspired by a modern myth that was promulgated

465
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 2>by none other than H. G. Wells, who wrote the

466
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>book The World Set Free. And with the super weapon

467
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:46.800
<v Speaker 2>we see the we see the mythic archetype of Prometheus,

468
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 2>or more specifically Promethean fire. Of course Oppenheimer Oppenheimer. Pop

469
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 2>culture has likened Oppenheimer to a modern Prometheus, and this

470
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>this Promethean fire that he bequests the man. It becomes

471
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:12.000
<v Speaker 2>a desirable and readily attainable deific force for mankind, and

472
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:19.159
<v Speaker 2>the nuclear bomb becomes pretty much this Messiah. Richard Stanley,

473
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.679
<v Speaker 2>of course, the avant garde filmmaker, characterizes it as such.

474
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 2>In an interview in Keinocasi magazine. He basically likens the

475
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Adam bomb to a gnostic messiah because it basically divests

476
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:40.119
<v Speaker 2>us of corruptible matter and reduces everything back to light.

477
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.880
<v Speaker 2>And then the last invocation of the beyond is, of course,

478
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:54.199
<v Speaker 2>extraterrestrial gods, which basically are just gnostically reinterpreted angels and

479
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:59.039
<v Speaker 2>demons and other heavenly beings. The most significant of which

480
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 2>being God. And in all of these instances we see

481
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 2>we see with this invocation of the beyond an attempt

482
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>to bring the new Man into being, because each one

483
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:16.320
<v Speaker 2>is underpinned by a tacit autotheism, in particular with the

484
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:23.639
<v Speaker 2>extraterrestrial gods. The assumption being that because the evolutionary process

485
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>the tree of life as Darwin called it, you know,

486
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.000
<v Speaker 2>which he is, of course the term he borrowed from

487
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Biblical Christianity, but he distorts it. If it's ubiquitous in

488
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.760
<v Speaker 2>its branches, branch out through all of the physical cosmos,

489
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:43.559
<v Speaker 2>then it stands to reason that the same evolutionary processes

490
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 2>that gave rise to man have also basically touched the

491
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:52.159
<v Speaker 2>primordial soups of other worlds and given rise to other

492
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:56.599
<v Speaker 2>other beings, other you know, alien beings who we have

493
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>interpreted as gods and who we through the same biological processes,

494
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:07.320
<v Speaker 2>may attain a deific status. But that's that's basically. Those

495
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.199
<v Speaker 2>are the four manifestations or invocations of the beyond that

496
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.360
<v Speaker 2>we uh that we touch upon in the book, and

497
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:20.760
<v Speaker 2>that's how the content Riff gets rise to the beyond

498
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 2>by rendering reality aara incognita that can be populated with

499
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.480
<v Speaker 2>these manifestations.

500
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:34.480
<v Speaker 5>Beyond let's get to the the UFO alien style. This

501
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 5>was where I really started digging in deep in the

502
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:41.639
<v Speaker 5>book because it just so happened that when you guys

503
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:44.480
<v Speaker 5>sent this, I was covering with Jamie a lot of

504
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:50.079
<v Speaker 5>the alien movies. And you note the chapter you started

505
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:54.159
<v Speaker 5>off with it being a new faith right the extraterrestrial gods.

506
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:57.519
<v Speaker 5>And there's a great quote there from Dean Kots of

507
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.599
<v Speaker 5>all people talking about it being in you know, countless

508
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.199
<v Speaker 5>movies TV shows. Why is that?

509
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 6>Why is space.

510
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 5>Religion and the alien gods so useful to the establishment.

511
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:13.960
<v Speaker 5>Why do you think they've chosen To me, it looks

512
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.280
<v Speaker 5>like they've chosen this to really try to bring in stuff.

513
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, those who study UFOs as a terrestrial based will

514
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:27.280
<v Speaker 2>most always recognize one thing, and that's the UPHO deception

515
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.960
<v Speaker 2>campaign that we see going on is characterized by function stacking.

516
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Function stacking is this. It's a term that appears to

517
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 2>have been coined by the permaculture community, but it has

518
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:46.519
<v Speaker 2>application when you're looking at UFOs, and it has been

519
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 2>defined as as an element in an operation that serves

520
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:57.199
<v Speaker 2>multiple functions, and with UFOs do just that they serve

521
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:01.119
<v Speaker 2>multiple functions for the elite or the all the cards

522
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.280
<v Speaker 2>and all. There are three functions that we looked into.

523
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Number one, they conceal the test of experimental aircraft and

524
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.880
<v Speaker 2>other covert technologies. Most people know that one, right, it's

525
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, fairly common knowledge that that's that's used as

526
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.639
<v Speaker 2>a cover for experimentation of R and D, of of

527
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 2>advanced R and D. Number two, they helped conceal criminal

528
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:33.119
<v Speaker 2>intelligence operations such as drug trafficking, gun running, even sexual entapment,

529
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 2>and blackmail rings and all. Look at like that Bob

530
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.639
<v Speaker 2>Lazaar he got caught for panduring you know after after

531
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Area fifty one, and the woman that he was working with,

532
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:50.599
<v Speaker 2>miss Bullock, who headed the brothel and all had ties

533
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 2>to Las Vegas Police, to the FBI. And his part

534
00:50:55.679 --> 00:51:00.719
<v Speaker 2>of that operation was the filming of life since plates,

535
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:03.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, all of cars that were of the visitors

536
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:07.159
<v Speaker 2>to the profitl and all. So there's actually, yes, there

537
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:12.280
<v Speaker 2>is actually a tie between uful, sexual entrapment, black memories.

538
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:16.159
<v Speaker 2>It's it's actually there and all not just not just

539
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:21.280
<v Speaker 2>uh not just anal probes and fields uh yeah, uh

540
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:29.519
<v Speaker 2>probing of a difference, Yeah, tied to uh tied to aliens,

541
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:33.679
<v Speaker 2>regime change. All these things are tied to UH are

542
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.719
<v Speaker 2>tied to are tied to the euphu phenomenon. The uphul

543
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:43.239
<v Speaker 2>phenomenon has been has been used to conceal these criminal activities.

544
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:48.639
<v Speaker 2>It leads researchers down evidentiary cul de sacts and also

545
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:51.400
<v Speaker 2>they find themselves going around in circles without ever finding

546
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:55.760
<v Speaker 2>the true meaning behind the UFO incidents in question and all,

547
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:59.760
<v Speaker 2>but most significantly number three is is that the advanced

548
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:07.039
<v Speaker 2>social engineering and radical reconfiguration of civilization. Most, if not all,

549
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:11.639
<v Speaker 2>of UFO deceptions serve that third function. They may have

550
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:14.960
<v Speaker 2>been concocted to serve one of the first two or both,

551
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.800
<v Speaker 2>but they eventually are employed to condition humanity to make

552
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:26.800
<v Speaker 2>a radical break from the past. Social engineering involving UFOs

553
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:32.119
<v Speaker 2>appears to have become extremely significant in the late nineteen forties.

554
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:36.079
<v Speaker 2>It may have been it may have very well taken

555
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 2>place in years prior, but the final years of nineteen

556
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:42.480
<v Speaker 2>forties seemed to be when it became most prominent. At

557
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:46.280
<v Speaker 2>that time, a prior incarnation of the Beyond the super

558
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:50.079
<v Speaker 2>weapon appears to have begun to act as kind of

559
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:53.920
<v Speaker 2>a midwife for the UFO men in infestation of the

560
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:58.079
<v Speaker 2>beyond and in the book we support this contention with

561
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.920
<v Speaker 2>a passage found in the appendix to a nineteen forty

562
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:07.760
<v Speaker 2>nine report, replaced report that was released by Projects Signed.

563
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Project Sign was this official government study on the subject

564
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 2>of UFOs that was conducted by the United States Air Force,

565
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:20.440
<v Speaker 2>And in the appendix to Project Sign the Project Signed report,

566
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:24.840
<v Speaker 2>there was a letter from doctor James lip and Lipp

567
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:31.199
<v Speaker 2>was He was an aeronautical engineer and a department head

568
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 2>at the Rand Corporation, an American nonprofit global policy think tank.

569
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:41.480
<v Speaker 2>The Rand Corporation was the epicenter for a lot of

570
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 2>very radical ideas report regarding nuclear exchange and nuclear war.

571
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 2>For instance, in nineteen sixty three, the Rand Corporation produced

572
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:54.719
<v Speaker 2>a report that would serve as the foundation for Secretary

573
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Defense Robert McNamara's policy of mutually Assured Destruction or MAD.

574
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:03.199
<v Speaker 2>MAD would go on to become kind of a national

575
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.800
<v Speaker 2>security centerpiece during the Cold War. It held that in

576
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:11.360
<v Speaker 2>a nuclear exchange, both the aggressor and the defender would

577
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:15.119
<v Speaker 2>end up being destroyed. So MAD is widely considered to

578
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 2>be the theory of deterrence put into practice. But like

579
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:24.039
<v Speaker 2>many other Cold War policies. MAD was characterized by function stacking.

580
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 2>So while it did in fact discourage both major superpowers

581
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:35.079
<v Speaker 2>from entertaining the notion of a nuclear exchange, it also

582
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:41.199
<v Speaker 2>allowed the global aligarchical global establishment to universally impose what

583
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:46.880
<v Speaker 2>we term to be nuclear anxiety and nuclear anxiety best

584
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:50.960
<v Speaker 2>way to define it is a kind of pervasive and

585
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:56.000
<v Speaker 2>obsessive fear of nuclear extinction. And once the global aligarchical

586
00:54:56.119 --> 00:55:02.400
<v Speaker 2>establishment induced this nuclear fever dream, an extended period of

587
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:07.880
<v Speaker 2>nuclear extortion took place. Sometimes nuclear extortion could could even

588
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 2>be found in cultural artifacts. One of the most humorous

589
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:16.480
<v Speaker 2>examples would be Grease Too in nineteen eighty two. The

590
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:20.079
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty two sequel to the hit smash musical Grease

591
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:26.039
<v Speaker 2>into the Tee Birds, named Lewis takes his girlfriend Sharon

592
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:30.119
<v Speaker 2>to a fallout shelter and he fakes a nuclear attack

593
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:33.679
<v Speaker 2>and then attempts to convince her to lose her virginity

594
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 2>to him in order to repopulate the nation, and this

595
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.480
<v Speaker 2>results in the musical number Let's do it for our Country,

596
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.280
<v Speaker 2>and of course do it is a reference to the

597
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Humpty Dance. So but nuclear extortion was very much real,

598
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:56.039
<v Speaker 2>and it was employed to advance advanced agendas that were

599
00:55:56.400 --> 00:56:02.320
<v Speaker 2>much more sinister than Lewis's design to satisfy his sexual retardation.

600
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.960
<v Speaker 2>It was used to condition the world's population to embrace

601
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:10.199
<v Speaker 2>alternatives to nuclear extinction that were devised by the global

602
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:15.519
<v Speaker 2>archical establishment. Better than yeah, better red than dead. This

603
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:20.320
<v Speaker 2>included a model of world management that possessed very little

604
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:25.440
<v Speaker 2>of the democratic spirit. So this connection of ran to

605
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:31.320
<v Speaker 2>projects sign indicates that the nuclear fetishist that cultural history H.

606
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Franklin referred to as the cult of the super weapon,

607
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:39.400
<v Speaker 2>that they were endeavoring to breathe life into a new

608
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:43.440
<v Speaker 2>incarnation of the beyond. Lips letter demonstrates that he was

609
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 2>clearly a skeptic regarding the UFO question. He pointed out

610
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:52.159
<v Speaker 2>that many of the UFO reports in nineteen forty seven

611
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:56.760
<v Speaker 2>and in nineteen forty eight really didn't conform to the

612
00:56:56.880 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 2>requirements of interplanetary travel. He then, however, goes on to

613
00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:09.440
<v Speaker 2>provide the foundation for the exploitation of belief and interplanetary travelers.

614
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:13.000
<v Speaker 2>The foundation is found in one of the theories he advances.

615
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Lip contents that there might be a causal relationship between

616
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:24.599
<v Speaker 2>atomic bomb tests and the appearances of UFOs. We threw

617
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:29.480
<v Speaker 2>them there. Yeah. Lip asserted that if they're real, interplanetary

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<v Speaker 2>travelers came from came to our solar system, and were

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<v Speaker 2>drawn to Earth by the detonation of nuclear devices. Lip's

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<v Speaker 2>theory included marshing telescopes visually detecting a bomb explosions at Alma, Gofordo,

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<v Speaker 2>and Hiroshima. Lipped In seemed to describe to subscribe to

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<v Speaker 2>his own theory. As a matter of fact, he points

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<v Speaker 2>out many of the deficiencies to his theory in his letter.

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<v Speaker 2>He put quite simply believed that Martians would find observing

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<v Speaker 2>Earth for a long period of time to be a

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<v Speaker 2>very mundane exercise. It would have just gotten boring. All

627
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<v Speaker 2>of that aside, Lip had either intentionally unintentionally contributed to

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<v Speaker 2>a narrative that would be used to manipulate the UFO

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<v Speaker 2>community for years and years to come. It was also

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<v Speaker 2>used to deceive the public, generally speaking, Social engineers within

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<v Speaker 2>the deep State introduced to the public imagination the notion

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<v Speaker 2>that interplanetary travelers had detected our nuclear activities and they

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<v Speaker 2>were now visiting Earth with both benign and sinister intentions,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on which extraterrestrial race. You were discussing. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>find that there's two narrative paradigms. I believe Upton the

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<v Speaker 2>perennial traditionalists. Yeah, yeah, he did. He discusses this in

637
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<v Speaker 2>his book Vectors of the Counter Initiation. A few other

638
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:16.480
<v Speaker 2>researchers have brought this up too, is that the myth

639
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<v Speaker 2>of the of extraterrestrial gods, it uses it usually assumes

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<v Speaker 2>two uh, two ostensibly different, uh, paradigmatic characters. On one hand,

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<v Speaker 2>the aliens are benign, they're basically gnostically reinterpreted angels who

642
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<v Speaker 2>find this and uh for instance, uh uh Steven Spielsberg's

643
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<v Speaker 2>Close Encounters of the Third Kind as as one of

644
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<v Speaker 2>as Richard Dreyfuss is being prepared to be hoisted into

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<v Speaker 2>the clouds and abandon his family because lord knows, you know,

646
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:02.159
<v Speaker 2>aliens and the discovery of yeah, yeah, they're worth it. Man.

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01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:08.079
<v Speaker 2>He basically turns to his family and says, screw you guys,

648
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<v Speaker 2>I'm going you know with yeah later, I'm going with

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01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the aliens. But as they're preparing him that, there's the

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<v Speaker 2>inclusion of a Bible verse, which of course is being

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<v Speaker 2>situated in a very different context where wherein it says

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<v Speaker 2>he shall give his angels charge over thee and we

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<v Speaker 2>see this angelic depiction of angels all of a sudden,

654
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<v Speaker 2>or angelic depiction of aliens. So all of a sudden,

655
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<v Speaker 2>aliens become angels. So we have this transposition of the

656
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<v Speaker 2>Esketon into the into space, into the vacuum, but the

657
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:49.320
<v Speaker 2>vacuum that separates celestial bodies. All of a sudden, this

658
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:53.880
<v Speaker 2>vacuum becomes the Esketon. It becomes the place where the

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<v Speaker 2>questions of life and death, the questions of eternity are

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01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.840
<v Speaker 2>are resolved for us. And then then on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 2>apart from you know, from on the other extreme polarity,

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<v Speaker 2>apart from Steven Spielsberg's close encounters, you have hg Wells

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<v Speaker 2>for the worlds where the aliens are now here to

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<v Speaker 2>exterminate us, to destroy us. And so you have again

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<v Speaker 2>this gnostic redefinition of aliens as demons. And then in

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<v Speaker 2>the treatment to the sequel to the e T Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>both yeah, And you have both in the treatment and

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<v Speaker 2>the original the script that was supposed to be the

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<v Speaker 2>sequel to et that never was made because I would

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<v Speaker 2>have terrified the living hell out of audiences would have

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01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:45.719
<v Speaker 2>ruined ET for an entire generation. And I think it

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01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:49.840
<v Speaker 2>was called Nocturnal Fear, Nocturnal Fear, nocturnal. I don't call

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<v Speaker 2>the name of it, but yeah, it's in the book

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<v Speaker 2>and you can look it up online too. Basically, you

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01:01:56.079 --> 01:02:00.880
<v Speaker 2>have this this counterpart Race to Eat Tease Race showing

676
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.159
<v Speaker 2>up and they're the They look like ET, but they're albino,

677
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and Steven Spielsberg makes it abundantly clear they're evil because

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<v Speaker 2>in the script he writes it in all caps, these

679
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:16.360
<v Speaker 2>aliens are evil, and they show up and they torture

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01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Elliot and his siblings, and they're only there. The Elliot

681
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:26.400
<v Speaker 2>and his siblings are only rescued at the end when

682
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Et makes a cameo and rescues rescues them like the Messiah,

683
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:33.679
<v Speaker 2>which of course ET is meant to be a cry

684
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:38.360
<v Speaker 2>a Christ archetype or an exo theological Christ. You see

685
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:43.679
<v Speaker 2>these two separate narrative paradigms where we have either angelica,

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01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:47.679
<v Speaker 2>angelic aliens or demonic aliens, and that of course is

687
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<v Speaker 2>just this gnostic transposition or neo gnostic transposition of the

688
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Esketon into the vacuums, separating celestial bodies known as space.

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<v Speaker 2>And either way, what's most important is that you get

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01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:04.599
<v Speaker 2>the crisis that comes with the introduction of the beyond. Right,

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01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:07.480
<v Speaker 2>if you have benign aliens, then you have the crisis

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01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:14.440
<v Speaker 2>of diplomacy where where no one nation can can satisfactorily

693
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:17.679
<v Speaker 2>represent mankind. And so if you don't have some kind

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01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 2>of unification, there's going to be a breakdown in communication

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<v Speaker 2>with the at Stan Friedman, the deceased, he was an astrophysicist,

696
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:28.400
<v Speaker 2>wasn't he well, he was, he was a He was

697
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:34.360
<v Speaker 2>a major voice in the in the euphological field, the

698
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:37.280
<v Speaker 2>uphological field he as he used to put it, who

699
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:38.760
<v Speaker 2>speaks for Earth Argentina?

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:44.519
<v Speaker 2>So it basically basically creates this crisis where man, where

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01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:50.320
<v Speaker 2>national governments are ontologically and epistemologically overwhelmed, and there we

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01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:54.599
<v Speaker 2>require this supernational body now to speak on behalf of Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have to amalgamate all the nation states, all

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01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:01.920
<v Speaker 2>these disparate tribes of man a tee into a single,

706
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, one world government. And the second crisis comes

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01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:10.840
<v Speaker 2>with with the more sinister variety of aliens to hostile aliens,

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01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:16.239
<v Speaker 2>a crisis of security and all no one nation can

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01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:21.119
<v Speaker 2>provide adequate security for the whole planet against these against

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01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:24.840
<v Speaker 2>these aliens. And it so basically we're too We're we're

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01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.880
<v Speaker 2>moving into the realm of Independence Day where you have

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<v Speaker 2>this Bill Pullman stands there and he says, the Independence

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01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Day is no longer an American Soliday to be a

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01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 2>unified military response to the aliens in order to vest

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01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:43.519
<v Speaker 2>their superior technologies and all but the hands of the

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01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:50.760
<v Speaker 2>social engineers could be detected. Almost immediately following Project sign

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01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:57.039
<v Speaker 2>as the UFO Contact D phenomena began to emerge, nuclear

718
01:04:57.239 --> 01:05:01.880
<v Speaker 2>anxiety was very much a comm and thematic thread running

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01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:06.360
<v Speaker 2>through the accounts of contact tactees. According to the contactees

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<v Speaker 2>of the fifties, the aliens had come to warn us

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01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:15.719
<v Speaker 2>that we needed to cease our nuclear tests. The atomic tests,

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<v Speaker 2>the aliens said, were leaking radiation that was having an

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<v Speaker 2>adverse effect on the solar systems. Don't get balanced. And

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<v Speaker 2>as far as we're concerned, the contact, these messages held

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01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:33.679
<v Speaker 2>too much common with Lipps theory to be accidental. Our

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01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:39.360
<v Speaker 2>suspicions were confirmed by the very strange story of Polish

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<v Speaker 2>American author Georgiadomski. Yeah he claimed to have met with

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01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:54.320
<v Speaker 2>veritable United nations of alien races. These included the inhabitants

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<v Speaker 2>of Mars, of Venus of Saturn. During one visit to

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<v Speaker 2>an alien Kraftadomski alleged to have met an alien emissary

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01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:07.760
<v Speaker 2>named the Master. And the Master, according to Adomsky, provided

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01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:14.599
<v Speaker 2>descriptions of the politicals on all the other worlds, and

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<v Speaker 2>he allegedly told Dadomski that the extraterrestrials had come to

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01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Earth on a selvivific mission to prevent humanity from falling

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01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:29.480
<v Speaker 2>to nuclear extinction. The Master explained that the extraterrestrials also

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<v Speaker 2>came to prevent Earth's nuclear radiation from ad personally affecting

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01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:38.239
<v Speaker 2>the other planets. So now skeptics, they're going to write

738
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Adomsky off instantly as a mentally ill individual or simply

739
01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:46.480
<v Speaker 2>a perpetrator of fraud. And who can blame them? The

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01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:49.199
<v Speaker 2>stories were wild, they were crazy if you read any

741
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:53.079
<v Speaker 2>of them, and all they they they are on parody

742
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 2>with pulp magazine fictions. And Adamski's supporters see his account

743
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:02.920
<v Speaker 2>as a confort nation that alien visitation is real, and

744
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:06.239
<v Speaker 2>he still has his supporters to this very day, all

745
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:07.079
<v Speaker 2>these years later.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I add something here, that one thing that really

747
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:13.840
<v Speaker 5>stuck out I didn't know was where you mentioned that

748
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:18.280
<v Speaker 5>Alan Dalles threatened to bring an injunction against anyone who

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01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:24.039
<v Speaker 5>had questioned question. Yeah, now, if there wasn't something more

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01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:25.639
<v Speaker 5>going on, why would he even care.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the middle ground that needs to be considered here.

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01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:34.679
<v Speaker 2>There's the possibility that he was manipulated by covert forces

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01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:38.719
<v Speaker 2>in order to popularize the contact ee phenomenon that was

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01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:43.559
<v Speaker 2>being used for social engineering purposes. In nineteen fifty three,

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01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Adomski had published a book entitled Flying Saucers of Landed

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01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:51.239
<v Speaker 2>and in nineteen fifty five he wrote a sequel entitled

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01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Inside the Spaceships. And in those books of Damski talks

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01:07:54.840 --> 01:08:02.599
<v Speaker 2>about conversations with Venusian named Orphon. Orthon supposedly invited Adomski

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01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:05.039
<v Speaker 2>to take a trip on a spacecraft and see the

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01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:10.239
<v Speaker 2>entire solar system. And when Adomsky published this tale, there

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01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:15.199
<v Speaker 2>was a Cincinnati businessman and his name was Thomas Iikoff,

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01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:19.479
<v Speaker 2>and Ikoff sought to have the United States government bring

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01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:23.560
<v Speaker 2>charges of fraud against Adomski. Iikoff pointed out that Adomski

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<v Speaker 2>had used the US Postal services to spread his account,

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01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:32.159
<v Speaker 2>so if the account was untrue. Ikoff asserted, then Adomski

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01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:35.960
<v Speaker 2>was employing the US Postal Service to perpetrate fraud. So,

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01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:39.720
<v Speaker 2>like you said, so Ikoff, he felt that there was

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<v Speaker 2>that the US government had a substantial case against Adomski.

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<v Speaker 2>Accusations reached the attorney of the man that you pointed out,

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<v Speaker 2>the consummate deep state operative CIA director Alan Dallas. Dallas,

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01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.359
<v Speaker 2>his attorney, felt that Aikov was correct and that the

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01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:11.000
<v Speaker 2>government could bring a case, could bring suit against against Adomski.

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01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:15.800
<v Speaker 2>And so what was Dallas's response to all this? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he threatened an injunction to prevent anyone from testifying in

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01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:26.520
<v Speaker 2>court about Domski's claims. Quote, because maximum security exists concerning

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01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:30.560
<v Speaker 2>the subject of UFOs. Now, why did Alan Dallas wish

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01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:34.960
<v Speaker 2>to prevent a courtroom testimony against Adomski? We think that

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01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:38.640
<v Speaker 2>the answer was provided by Leon Davidson, a chemical engineer

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01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:44.960
<v Speaker 2>who participated in the Manhattan Project. Davidson believed that Dallas

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01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:51.680
<v Speaker 2>and the CIA played an integral role in manufacturing Adomski's votes. Davidson,

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01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:55.239
<v Speaker 2>in a nineteen sixty two article that we cite in

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01:09:55.319 --> 01:10:01.560
<v Speaker 2>the book, contended that the CIA orchestrated Adomski's close encounter experiences,

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01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:05.840
<v Speaker 2>including his famous nineteen fifty two encounter with the Venusian.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Davidson, individuals working with the CIA convinced Dadomski

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01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:17.960
<v Speaker 2>that they were real space brothers and persuaded him to

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01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:21.720
<v Speaker 2>write his books about them. Davidson also asserted that the

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01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:30.560
<v Speaker 2>CIA had had orchestrated Dowdomski's space flight to lend authenticity

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01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:35.960
<v Speaker 2>to the contact experience. Now Davidson's accusation it shouldn't be

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01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:41.159
<v Speaker 2>dismissed as paranoia. During a meeting between the CIA and

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01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Air Force representatives, a CIA official had suggested Davidson was

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01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:49.640
<v Speaker 2>somehow a threat to the nation. The meeting had been

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01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:53.880
<v Speaker 2>held to discuss the possible responses to inquiries that had

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01:10:53.920 --> 01:11:00.119
<v Speaker 2>been submitted by two particular UFO researchers, Davidson and Keiho. Now,

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01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:05.239
<v Speaker 2>at the meeting, there was a very distinct change in

795
01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:08.439
<v Speaker 2>tone depending on which one of those researchers you were

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01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:12.760
<v Speaker 2>talking about, and all Keyho he was treated with a

797
01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:15.119
<v Speaker 2>lot of honor. He was treated with a lot of

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01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:21.039
<v Speaker 2>respect when they approached the topic of Kiho's inquiries. When

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01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:25.279
<v Speaker 2>the subject shifted to Davidson, however, the tone among participants,

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01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:32.600
<v Speaker 2>and considerably, Davidson was the Donald Trump of ufiology, the

801
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:38.920
<v Speaker 2>chemical engineer. He was spoke of with disdain, with contempt,

802
01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:43.319
<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of suspicion. One CIA officer, in particular,

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01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Frank Chapin, went so far as to imply that Davidson

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01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:51.600
<v Speaker 2>was motivated by ulterior motives quote, some of them perhaps

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01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:55.199
<v Speaker 2>not in the best interests of this country unquote. So

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<v Speaker 2>Chapin followed up this accusation with a proposal that the

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01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:04.600
<v Speaker 2>fb I actually conduct an investigation on Davidson. So he

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01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:07.319
<v Speaker 2>implied that the man was working for a foreign power

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01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:13.399
<v Speaker 2>or some such thing. Davidson's accusation and proposal is analogous

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01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:17.560
<v Speaker 2>to a bombing raid. During the bombing raid, the bomber

811
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:21.840
<v Speaker 2>always knows that he's over to target because that's when

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<v Speaker 2>he starts to receive the most intense amount of flack.

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01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:29.800
<v Speaker 2>The flat that Davidson was receiving from Chapin and his

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01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:37.279
<v Speaker 2>other CIA associates indicates that Davidson was over the target.

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<v Speaker 2>He was not too far off the mark, and the CIA,

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01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:47.359
<v Speaker 2>simply put, just didn't like Davidson because he had correctly

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01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:52.399
<v Speaker 2>identified the agency's role in ushering in the age of

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01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the contact eed, which would basically end with a limper

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<v Speaker 2>and not a bang, as many of these contents were

820
01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:05.239
<v Speaker 2>either exposed as they were either complete charlatans or they

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<v Speaker 2>were victims of deep state manipulation. Davidson also asserted in

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<v Speaker 2>its nineteen fifty sixty two article that the CIA had

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<v Speaker 2>quote sponsored the wave of Saucer articles in nineteen fifty

824
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:24.199
<v Speaker 2>two and Look Life and Look et cetera. Life Magazine

825
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:29.399
<v Speaker 2>and its counterpart Look Magzine Now Life was a weekly

826
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:35.640
<v Speaker 2>magazine that was published from eighteen three to nineteen seventy two.

827
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:46.920
<v Speaker 2>It's still periodically resurrected by Life Magazine because in nineteen

828
01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:54.760
<v Speaker 2>thirty six it was purchased by American magazine magnet Henry Leos,

829
01:13:55.039 --> 01:13:58.479
<v Speaker 2>who owned Time Magazine. Yes, now Loose. He was the

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01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:02.119
<v Speaker 2>publisher of Time Magazine and Time would continue to publish

831
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:07.560
<v Speaker 2>to uh to employ the Life brand after after the

832
01:14:07.640 --> 01:14:12.159
<v Speaker 2>turn of the century, after turn into the twenty first century,

833
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:17.000
<v Speaker 2>when it wanted to release commenorative issues or special issues.

834
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:21.560
<v Speaker 2>But Loose has been called quote the most influential private

835
01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:27.239
<v Speaker 2>citizen in the in the America of his day unquote.

836
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:33.359
<v Speaker 2>His influence appears to have extended to the realm of

837
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:39.239
<v Speaker 2>UFOs because Loose was after it was, after all, the

838
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:42.199
<v Speaker 2>owner of Life during the period of time when it

839
01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:46.399
<v Speaker 2>was putting out a high volume of softler articles, and

840
01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:49.520
<v Speaker 2>and not just it, but its chief competitor. Well.

841
01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:51.560
<v Speaker 5>And by the way, we know from the wim Hof,

842
01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:54.479
<v Speaker 5>the Big wim Hof book, that there was a direct

843
01:14:54.520 --> 01:15:00.960
<v Speaker 5>connection to the CIA, Loose being skulling bones, Claire booth

844
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:05.680
<v Speaker 5>Lewis being herself an intelligence operative, all of the connections

845
01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:09.399
<v Speaker 5>between John Courtney Murray being promoted by a Timelife magazine,

846
01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:16.560
<v Speaker 5>the sixties countercultural revolution with mushrooms and LSD being promoted

847
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:20.319
<v Speaker 5>by Henry Luce. So no shocker here that it would

848
01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:21.640
<v Speaker 5>also apply to this stuff.

849
01:15:22.359 --> 01:15:24.840
<v Speaker 2>You're going right down the rabbit hole that I was

850
01:15:25.039 --> 01:15:29.039
<v Speaker 2>pursuing here, Jay, because Lousi's influence on the realm of youthology,

851
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:34.039
<v Speaker 2>they have gone deeper than just publishing articles and lives.

852
01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Louse's main fact totem was Charles Douglas Jackson. Now there

853
01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:45.199
<v Speaker 2>was a Nightcap member named C. D. Jackson who actually

854
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:48.560
<v Speaker 2>interviewed Betty and Barney Hill. I have not been able

855
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:51.600
<v Speaker 2>to confirm yet that that CD Jackson is one and

856
01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:56.359
<v Speaker 2>the same with the CG. Jackson, who was a primary

857
01:15:57.399 --> 01:16:03.239
<v Speaker 2>assistant to loose in a TIME senior executive.

858
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:06.760
<v Speaker 5>And also it's awful the creator of the doctrinal warfare program,

859
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:09.600
<v Speaker 5>which was the CIA's usage of the Romancollolic Church.

860
01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and that's there's a connection here with doctrinal warfare.

861
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:14.359
<v Speaker 4>Now.

862
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Jackson, he was a senior executive of TIME, and he

863
01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:20.920
<v Speaker 2>was an expert on psychological warfare who had served with

864
01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:25.199
<v Speaker 2>the Office of Strategic Services OSS, which is the front

865
01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:31.920
<v Speaker 2>forerunner to the CIA, during nineteen fifty three nineteen fifty four.

866
01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Jackson was also instrumental in the formation of the Builderberg Group,

867
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:40.399
<v Speaker 2>which is an elitist combine that has played a significant

868
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:45.680
<v Speaker 2>role in the globalization process and also very preoccupied with transhumanism,

869
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:50.720
<v Speaker 2>which is one that represents another invocation beyond with AI

870
01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:56.119
<v Speaker 2>and technological singularity. Both them and both them and the

871
01:16:56.439 --> 01:17:04.960
<v Speaker 2>transhumanist shared this religious faith in homogeneity, which this belief

872
01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:07.800
<v Speaker 2>that the other is a corruption, that the world of

873
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:12.720
<v Speaker 2>differentiated beings is a corruption, and that humanity should be one,

874
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:17.159
<v Speaker 2>that all beans should be that all being and amalgamated

875
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:19.520
<v Speaker 2>into one super being. And I think that it was

876
01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:22.239
<v Speaker 2>at the Built I think it was the twenty thirteen

877
01:17:22.319 --> 01:17:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Builderberg meeting. We bring it up in the in the

878
01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:29.239
<v Speaker 2>book where they opened the gates wide to transhumanism. I

879
01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:33.159
<v Speaker 2>think it was the twenty thirteen where they opened it

880
01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:37.680
<v Speaker 2>up wide because they to transhumanism because they thought that

881
01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:42.159
<v Speaker 2>the radical homogeneity that they were seeking to achieve could

882
01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:46.039
<v Speaker 2>be done in an online world where everybody's conscious it's

883
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:52.880
<v Speaker 2>just merged together right in all but according to wim Hoff,

884
01:17:53.680 --> 01:17:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Jackson acted as a kind of nexus between intelligence circles,

885
01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:03.439
<v Speaker 2>media organs, banking and financial interest, big business, and theoreticians

886
01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:06.239
<v Speaker 2>in the realm of communications, and he was able to

887
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:10.960
<v Speaker 2>mobilize all these different forces to advance the agenda of

888
01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the oligarchical set. And Wimhoff makes it very clear in

889
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:19.720
<v Speaker 2>his book that Jackson used these forces to conduct what

890
01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:24.359
<v Speaker 2>has been termed doctrinal warfare. What you brought up, that

891
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:28.079
<v Speaker 2>was an actual term in the CIA lexicon. It's not

892
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:33.560
<v Speaker 2>a militia or patriot movement fate fever dream. Anyone who

893
01:18:33.800 --> 01:18:37.920
<v Speaker 2>doubts that needs to go onto the CIA's online reading

894
01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:40.279
<v Speaker 2>room and read a paper that we cite in the

895
01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:44.680
<v Speaker 2>book entitled the Use of Doctrinal Warfare and political, non

896
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:51.159
<v Speaker 2>military attack against the USSR. The paper was actually read

897
01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:55.720
<v Speaker 2>to an audience of CIA officials on October twentieth, nineteen

898
01:18:55.800 --> 01:19:00.640
<v Speaker 2>fifty two, and the document defines doctrinal warfare as quote

899
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:04.560
<v Speaker 2>an attack through the medium of ideas on the motive

900
01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:08.720
<v Speaker 2>invasion of a given target, which seeks to reorient the

901
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:14.600
<v Speaker 2>targets target's will in the selected direction. Now, the document

902
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:19.600
<v Speaker 2>asserts that the Soviets were not reluctant to weaponize ideas,

903
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:24.439
<v Speaker 2>so America had to follow suit and not trying to warfare.

904
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:30.800
<v Speaker 2>If I recall, and Wimhoff points us out, included plans

905
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:39.239
<v Speaker 2>to infiltrate all religions Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam and essentially

906
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:43.000
<v Speaker 2>make them surrogates of the American Empire, which itself was

907
01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:46.479
<v Speaker 2>merely a stepping stone to world government, which I might

908
01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:51.680
<v Speaker 2>add holds parallels with mystical imperialism, because mystical imperialism, which

909
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:57.359
<v Speaker 2>of course it concerned itself with the creation of syncretistic

910
01:19:57.520 --> 01:20:03.960
<v Speaker 2>religion to unite all of the otherwise fragmentary elements of Empire,

911
01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:06.880
<v Speaker 2>of the British Empire together, and so we see kind

912
01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:11.359
<v Speaker 2>of a syncretism taking place here. Now none of this

913
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:15.600
<v Speaker 2>is tangential because it is our contention. And then we

914
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:18.680
<v Speaker 2>point this out in the book that UFOT disinformation played

915
01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:22.600
<v Speaker 2>an intake role part in doctrinal warfare. First of all,

916
01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:26.840
<v Speaker 2>we have the Psychological Strategy Board the PSB, which wim

917
01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:32.359
<v Speaker 2>Hoff tells us was used in doctrinal warfare, played an

918
01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:37.039
<v Speaker 2>intake a role in doctrinal warfare. Wimhoff says that the

919
01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:42.279
<v Speaker 2>PSB was actually responsible for coordinating doctrinal warfare is a

920
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:47.279
<v Speaker 2>There is a now legendary memo authored by Director of

921
01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Central Intelligence DCI Walter Bedelle Smith in nineteen fifty two

922
01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:57.000
<v Speaker 2>which calls for the PSB quote to discuss quote the

923
01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:04.800
<v Speaker 2>possible the offensive defensive utilization of the UFO phenomenon. And

924
01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:10.520
<v Speaker 2>even more substantial link exists than that, and that would

925
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:14.720
<v Speaker 2>be through one of the major participants in doctrinal warfare.

926
01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:19.159
<v Speaker 2>That participant was doctor Charles Lowry, the chairman of the

927
01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:25.479
<v Speaker 2>Foundation for Religious Action. Lowry was responsible for authoring two

928
01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:31.159
<v Speaker 2>memoranda that provided a strategy for the transforming for transforming

929
01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Buddhism in Southeast Asia into a mirrorage of the American Empire.

930
01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:42.880
<v Speaker 2>This plan, which was endorsed by then Vice President Richard

931
01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Nixon confide inspiration for the efforts to colonize Catholicism. In

932
01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:57.520
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty four, Lowry was a pivotal was pivotal in

933
01:21:58.279 --> 01:22:03.159
<v Speaker 2>an effort to organize was known as Freedom Day. Freedom

934
01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:06.479
<v Speaker 2>Day was an event meant to commemorate the anniversary of

935
01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:10.680
<v Speaker 2>the revolt of East German workers in Polish and Czechoslovakian

936
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:16.960
<v Speaker 2>rebellions against Communism that took place in June nineteen fifty three.

937
01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Freedom Day, which was celebrated on June seventeenth, nineteen fifty four,

938
01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:28.560
<v Speaker 2>was the brainchild of Nicholas de Rochefort Fort and n

939
01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:34.560
<v Speaker 2>De Rochefort was a french Man and a psychological warfare expert.

940
01:22:35.279 --> 01:22:38.479
<v Speaker 2>The Rochefort and Lowry worked together to see to it

941
01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that Freedom Day was carried out, and later, on July

942
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:47.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty ninth, nineteen fifty four, both men were praised by

943
01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:53.079
<v Speaker 2>George J. Kirst and the US representative from Wisconsin on

944
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:56.119
<v Speaker 2>the floor of the House of Representatives for making Freedom

945
01:22:56.239 --> 01:23:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Day reality. The Rochefort is significant because he was one

946
01:23:01.800 --> 01:23:06.520
<v Speaker 2>of many CIA officials who was involved in the infiltration

947
01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomenon Nightcap. The

948
01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:18.000
<v Speaker 2>rochwort Was and several other CIA officials played a very

949
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:21.560
<v Speaker 2>important role in the founding of Nightcap, ensuring that the

950
01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:27.680
<v Speaker 2>US investigations and conducted by the UFO, investigations conducted by

951
01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:34.399
<v Speaker 2>Nightcap would be subject to considerable deep state influence. During

952
01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:37.760
<v Speaker 2>his remarks on the House of on the floor of

953
01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:41.279
<v Speaker 2>the House of Representatives, Kirsten stated that Freedom Day was

954
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:44.479
<v Speaker 2>quote an example of what is possible to achieve in

955
01:23:44.600 --> 01:23:49.720
<v Speaker 2>the field of unconventional psychological warfare against communism through imagination

956
01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:54.359
<v Speaker 2>and private initiative unquote. So Kirsten made it clear that

957
01:23:54.479 --> 01:24:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Freedom Day was a psychological warfare operation. Then Kirsten stated

958
01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:05.159
<v Speaker 2>that a lesson quote unquote, a lesson could be learned

959
01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:09.640
<v Speaker 2>from Freedom Day. In Kirsten's view, freedom Day provided an

960
01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:15.039
<v Speaker 2>example of a project that was quote prepared and initiated

961
01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:19.640
<v Speaker 2>by private initiative unquote, rather than by government. Kirsten then

962
01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:25.520
<v Speaker 2>suggested that quote a private organization be created to carry

963
01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:30.239
<v Speaker 2>such psychological warfare. To carry out such psychological warfare projects,

964
01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:35.000
<v Speaker 2>we believe that Nightcap was formed in response to Kirsten's

965
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>call quote to create a private organization unquote for the

966
01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:45.359
<v Speaker 2>purpose of quote psychological warfare unquote, and in support of that,

967
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.560
<v Speaker 2>we point towards the findings of UFOL researcher Jack Brewer.

968
01:24:50.199 --> 01:24:55.399
<v Speaker 2>Brewer pointed out that NIGHTCAP was incorporated some twenty seven

969
01:24:55.600 --> 01:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>months after Kirston made his remarks, So it appears to

970
01:25:01.119 --> 01:25:05.520
<v Speaker 2>us that UFO investigatory bodies were being used to conduct

971
01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:11.439
<v Speaker 2>doctrinal warfare. The personal over the personnel overlapped with the

972
01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:17.000
<v Speaker 2>rochefort is certainly there. But it wasn't just organizations like

973
01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:22.640
<v Speaker 2>NYCAP that were used to incorporate UFOs into doctrinal warfare.

974
01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Motion pictures were also engaged in UFO related to doctrinal warfare.

975
01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:33.680
<v Speaker 2>In addition to his important position at Time Magazine, C. D.

976
01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Jackson was also president of the National Committee for Free Europe.

977
01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>The National Committee for Free Europe was a front for

978
01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:48.239
<v Speaker 2>the Central Intelligence Agency, and executives in the Committee for

979
01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Free Europe included Alan Dallies and Dwight D. Eisenhower. Eisenhower,

980
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:55.079
<v Speaker 2>of course, would go on to become President of the

981
01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:58.479
<v Speaker 2>United States, Dollars would become the Director of CIA, and,

982
01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:01.640
<v Speaker 2>as I mentioned earlier, a chief participant in the Georgia

983
01:26:01.760 --> 01:26:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Edomski UFO case, A member who was very close to

984
01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:14.079
<v Speaker 2>the organization's executative committee was film producer and studio executive

985
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Darryl Zanik. Zanik had worked as a writer. He had

986
01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:24.760
<v Speaker 2>wrote more than about forty scripts during the nineteen twenties

987
01:26:24.800 --> 01:26:28.279
<v Speaker 2>for Warner Brothers and then moved on to become head

988
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:31.680
<v Speaker 2>of production, and in nineteen thirty three he left Warner

989
01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Brothers after he and the studio had Jack Warner, had

990
01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:44.079
<v Speaker 2>a dispute over salary. He then partnered with Joseph Shrek

991
01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:49.439
<v Speaker 2>Shrink to start Twentieth Century Pictures. He and Trank would

992
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:53.199
<v Speaker 2>transform that production company into a force to be reckoned

993
01:26:53.279 --> 01:26:58.199
<v Speaker 2>with in the motion picture industries, especially in nineteen thirty

994
01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:02.720
<v Speaker 2>five when they brought the when they basically brought the

995
01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:06.000
<v Speaker 2>bankrupt Fox Studios into the fold and they merged it

996
01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:11.239
<v Speaker 2>with twentieth Century to form twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation.

997
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:16.680
<v Speaker 2>But Xanik became much more than just a major film

998
01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:23.880
<v Speaker 2>producer when America entered into World War Two. When our

999
01:27:24.039 --> 01:27:28.479
<v Speaker 2>entry came in nineteen forty one, Xanak gained an intelligence background.

1000
01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>He was commissioned as a colonel in the Army Signals

1001
01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Corps and he placed his film company at the disposal

1002
01:27:36.279 --> 01:27:40.840
<v Speaker 2>of the United States government twentieth century, Fox began churning

1003
01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:43.560
<v Speaker 2>out films that were made with the supervision of the

1004
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Office of War Information OWI and a government agency engaged

1005
01:27:50.119 --> 01:27:56.399
<v Speaker 2>in large scale information and propaganda campaigns domestically and overseas,

1006
01:27:56.479 --> 01:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>and populated heavily by social scientists who comprised the core

1007
01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:05.720
<v Speaker 2>of the OSS, which he eventually became the CIA. But

1008
01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:11.760
<v Speaker 2>as a result of this development in Xianic's life, in

1009
01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:19.520
<v Speaker 2>his mind, filmmaking and propagandizing became merged, whether intentionally or unintentionally,

1010
01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>motion picture art and information. Warfare and persuasion became one

1011
01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:31.319
<v Speaker 2>and the same in Xani's mind, And in nineteen forty three,

1012
01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:36.119
<v Speaker 2>while he was still with the Army Signals Corps, he

1013
01:28:36.560 --> 01:28:40.319
<v Speaker 2>was quoted as saying, quote, if you have something worthwhile

1014
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>to say, dress it up in the glittering robes of entertainment,

1015
01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and you will find a ready market without entertainment, No

1016
01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:51.119
<v Speaker 2>propaganda film is worth a dime. On the book, Yeah,

1017
01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Xanik developed a very good rapport with CD Jackson. He

1018
01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:58.560
<v Speaker 2>became part of a group of Hollywood figures that Jackson

1019
01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:02.439
<v Speaker 2>could refer to as quote unquote friends, and this group

1020
01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:07.399
<v Speaker 2>also included Cecil B. Demel and Jack Warner and Walt Disney.

1021
01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Jackson turned to This Holly World, This Hollywood Circle when

1022
01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:19.520
<v Speaker 2>he wanted certain ideas to be subtly relayed to movie audiences.

1023
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Jackson was the head of the Committee for Free Europe

1024
01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:29.359
<v Speaker 2>and Xantik was a member. In nineteen fifty one, when

1025
01:29:30.079 --> 01:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>twentieth Century Fox released what was to become a very

1026
01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>popular and important science fiction movie, The Day the Earth

1027
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Stood Still, the inaugural the inaugural Benevolent myth film. The

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<v Speaker 2>movie had a profound effect on audiences and left a

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01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:55.760
<v Speaker 2>permanent impression on America's cultural landscape. In nineteen ninety five,

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01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the National Film Registry described the film as quote cultural,

1031
01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:06.359
<v Speaker 2>historically or esthetically significant unquote, and usually science fiction, it's

1032
01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:12.399
<v Speaker 2>it's very surreal. The genre can be very bizarre, and

1033
01:30:12.560 --> 01:30:16.439
<v Speaker 2>audiences always have a sense that what they're watching is

1034
01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:20.239
<v Speaker 2>somehow divorced for reality. The Day the Earth Stood Still

1035
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:26.119
<v Speaker 2>was quite different. There was a very realistic style to it.

1036
01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Xanik obviously wanted the audience to feel like they were

1037
01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>viewing a very real event, almost a documentary. Yeah of

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01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:41.199
<v Speaker 2>particular more importance to was the now famous scene where

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01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the alien plat lands his spacecraft in the nation's capital

1040
01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:50.119
<v Speaker 2>and delivers his message to Americans and the rest of humanity.

1041
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:54.560
<v Speaker 2>While he was discussing this scene with the movie's producer

1042
01:30:56.439 --> 01:31:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Julian Blaustein, I mean the movies director Julian blouse Stein, uh,

1043
01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:07.359
<v Speaker 2>the the movie screenwriter Edmund North. Uh, Xanik directed them

1044
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:11.760
<v Speaker 2>to quote, treat it as realistically as you possibly can

1045
01:31:12.359 --> 01:31:15.319
<v Speaker 2>quote and if I may add their script the scriptwriter

1046
01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Edmund North, he openly acknowledged that clat two who's killed

1047
01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>by soldiers, but he slavored or revives, you know, revived

1048
01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:31.159
<v Speaker 2>through the use of advanced technology. He he intended, Uh,

1049
01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>he intended the character of Clatt two to be an

1050
01:31:34.840 --> 01:31:40.600
<v Speaker 2>alien Christ, and during his son journ on Earth, Clatte

1051
01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:46.079
<v Speaker 2>two assumes the very suggestive name of Carpenter as an

1052
01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:50.159
<v Speaker 2>carpenter from Nazareth. So very you know, you already have

1053
01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:56.119
<v Speaker 2>intimations of an exo theological Christ and the narrative. But

1054
01:31:56.359 --> 01:32:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Xanik wanted a very documentary style to the U landing scene.

1055
01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:04.159
<v Speaker 2>And he told North and blasting the following quote, you

1056
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>should suddenly hear radio programs being interested with startling flash

1057
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:12.479
<v Speaker 2>announcements from Washington, New York, Los Angeles, et cetera. The

1058
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>whole nation is listening in this should be dramatized like

1059
01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the opening of a documentary film, quote Xanik. He was

1060
01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:24.359
<v Speaker 2>also very adamant that the audience quote must accept our

1061
01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:31.119
<v Speaker 2>entire project. Xanik wanted the audience's full investment in this

1062
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>particular big screen experience. He wanted to make sure the

1063
01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:43.199
<v Speaker 2>film's message was fully imbibed by viewers. This was to

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01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:47.279
<v Speaker 2>be a propaganda piece. The fact was probably not lost

1065
01:32:47.359 --> 01:32:52.680
<v Speaker 2>on Blasting the film's director, because he himself was a

1066
01:32:52.840 --> 01:32:57.279
<v Speaker 2>signals car an Army signals car veteran one of these.

1067
01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:02.079
<v Speaker 2>One of the messages that was was introduced by this

1068
01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:08.319
<v Speaker 2>film was Salvation from outer Space. An extraterrestrial messiah figure,

1069
01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the principal alien character and the extraterrestrial name Cloutu, comes

1070
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:18.560
<v Speaker 2>to Earth bearing a cautionary message meant to help humanity

1071
01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:24.720
<v Speaker 2>avert disaster and avoid extinction. Clato is a misunderstood deliverer

1072
01:33:25.119 --> 01:33:30.079
<v Speaker 2>who experiences resurrection after being fatally shot. This, of course,

1073
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>is a reference to Jesus Christ. This Christ, however, is

1074
01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:40.119
<v Speaker 2>firmly anchored to the a manic world an interplanetary savior

1075
01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:44.199
<v Speaker 2>instead of one that's sent to us by some transcendent god.

1076
01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:47.800
<v Speaker 2>And at one point Plato, of course, he escapes custody

1077
01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:51.800
<v Speaker 2>of military guards and he hides out in a boarding house,

1078
01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:56.279
<v Speaker 2>where as Phil's pointed out, he assumes the name of Carpenter,

1079
01:33:56.359 --> 01:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's an obvious allusion to Jesus Christ. The Carpenter

1080
01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>are from Nazareth. So Clatu is supposed to be a

1081
01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:07.479
<v Speaker 2>surrogate for the divine, which is the very definition of

1082
01:34:07.640 --> 01:34:13.119
<v Speaker 2>the Beyond. His message to mankind includes a warning that

1083
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>the inhabitants of the planet is the inhabitants of the

1084
01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:23.159
<v Speaker 2>other planets rather, are extremely concerned by the fact that

1085
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:27.359
<v Speaker 2>that humans have developed a primitive form of atomic power.

1086
01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Clatu tells humanity that if it continues on its present course,

1087
01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:36.720
<v Speaker 2>that it will quote face obliteration. So we have one

1088
01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:41.399
<v Speaker 2>of the invocation of beyond the super weapon, which of

1089
01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:47.600
<v Speaker 2>course is of course Promethean fire and a gnostic Messiah.

1090
01:34:48.039 --> 01:34:53.079
<v Speaker 2>We have it segueing into the invocation of the Beyond

1091
01:34:53.279 --> 01:34:59.840
<v Speaker 2>as extraterrestrial gods. Yeah, Clatu's message it obviously caused the mind.

1092
01:35:00.279 --> 01:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>The theory advanced by doctor James lipp in nineteen forty nine,

1093
01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:08.159
<v Speaker 2>and that Project Sign report, so The Day that the

1094
01:35:08.239 --> 01:35:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Earth Stood Still was released only two years after the

1095
01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Project Sign report and was overseen by a Hollywood production

1096
01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:19.800
<v Speaker 2>chief with an intelligence background and extremely close ties to C. G. Jackson,

1097
01:35:20.680 --> 01:35:25.439
<v Speaker 2>a principal participant in doctrinal warfare. The probability that this

1098
01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>was all coincidental is very small, to say the least.

1099
01:35:34.880 --> 01:35:38.560
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen eighty three, journalist Linda Marlton Howe claimed that

1100
01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:42.079
<v Speaker 2>she was told by Air Force intelligence officers, one of

1101
01:35:42.159 --> 01:35:45.239
<v Speaker 2>which was probably Richard Doughty, who was involved in a

1102
01:35:45.399 --> 01:35:52.760
<v Speaker 2>whole plethora of alien disinformation schemes, including a disinformation scheme

1103
01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:57.840
<v Speaker 2>that led to the tragic downfall of Paul Benowitz, who

1104
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.680
<v Speaker 2>was a UFO researcher and electric on an electrical engineer

1105
01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>who suffered all the symptoms of a nervous breakdown as

1106
01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:10.399
<v Speaker 2>a result. And all but she was told by these

1107
01:36:10.800 --> 01:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Air Force officers that the Day the Earth Stood Still

1108
01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:18.399
<v Speaker 2>was quote inspired by the CIA unquote, and that it

1109
01:36:18.520 --> 01:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>was probably probably and that was probably the only time

1110
01:36:23.399 --> 01:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>that the Air Force intelligence candre that into the Air

1111
01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Force intelligence circles were ever honest with her how herself

1112
01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>was used as a disinformation conduit by deep state forces

1113
01:36:37.960 --> 01:36:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and elements of the public state that had fallen into

1114
01:36:41.640 --> 01:36:45.560
<v Speaker 2>some degree of corruption and deterioration, probably as a result

1115
01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:51.399
<v Speaker 2>of excessive Could war paranoia. The aforementioned Richard Dody and

1116
01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:56.279
<v Speaker 2>agent with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations AFOSI,

1117
01:36:57.640 --> 01:37:01.720
<v Speaker 2>provided next between the deep state and public state. In

1118
01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the case of Linda Malton. How as an AFO SI agent,

1119
01:37:07.079 --> 01:37:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Doty was representing portions of the public state that had

1120
01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:14.760
<v Speaker 2>allowed its competition with Soviet intelligence to erode its integrity.

1121
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:20.319
<v Speaker 2>The afosi's desire to counter Soviet intelligence efforts caused it

1122
01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>to resort to some of the worst kind of lies, deception, disinformation.

1123
01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:29.479
<v Speaker 2>In the case of the aforementioned UFO researcher ele electrical

1124
01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:35.279
<v Speaker 2>physicist Paul Benowitz, delies and disinformation led to delusional paranoia

1125
01:37:35.439 --> 01:37:40.439
<v Speaker 2>and nervous breakdown. In nineteen seventy nine, Benowitz had begun

1126
01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:46.119
<v Speaker 2>seeing and filming strange lights over Kirtland Air Force Base

1127
01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:51.560
<v Speaker 2>in New Mexico. He was also intercepting some electronic communications.

1128
01:37:52.039 --> 01:37:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Benowitz he was an eccentric and came to believe that

1129
01:37:56.399 --> 01:38:01.560
<v Speaker 2>but he was the evidence that he was acting here

1130
01:38:01.800 --> 01:38:08.520
<v Speaker 2>was an activity. The AFOSI was among those portions of

1131
01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the government bureaucracy that became concerned with Benowitz's investigation, and

1132
01:38:13.600 --> 01:38:16.359
<v Speaker 2>they were afraid that Benwitz would become the unwitting puppet

1133
01:38:16.399 --> 01:38:20.439
<v Speaker 2>of the Soviets. In other words, his investigations would unintentionally

1134
01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:24.399
<v Speaker 2>reveal secret projects at Kirtland Air Force Base and other

1135
01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:29.079
<v Speaker 2>sensitive sites like the Monzano Nuclear weapons storage facility and

1136
01:38:29.199 --> 01:38:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Coyote Canyon Test Area. So, through Agent Special Agent Richard Dody,

1137
01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:39.920
<v Speaker 2>benefit Witz was fed some of the most paranoid UFO

1138
01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:44.520
<v Speaker 2>disinformation ever conceived. The very purpose of the disinformation seems

1139
01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:49.199
<v Speaker 2>to have been to engender extreme suspicion, in irrational fear

1140
01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:53.560
<v Speaker 2>in its precipit in its recipient, and it seems to

1141
01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:57.039
<v Speaker 2>have had the desired effect, because, as I said in

1142
01:38:57.159 --> 01:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty eight, Benowitz was exhibiting all the signs of

1143
01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:04.640
<v Speaker 2>severe mental distress and a family had to place them

1144
01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:09.159
<v Speaker 2>in a psychiatric facility. But thois I was not the

1145
01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:14.279
<v Speaker 2>only organization that Doughty represented during the sad Milits affair.

1146
01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:17.319
<v Speaker 2>It was revealed that Doughty was either a representative or

1147
01:39:17.359 --> 01:39:20.159
<v Speaker 2>a member of the Aviary, which was a group of

1148
01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:25.239
<v Speaker 2>intelligence operatives that derived its name from the fact that

1149
01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:31.079
<v Speaker 2>participants assumed bird names as aliases. The AFOSI was obviously

1150
01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:36.279
<v Speaker 2>motivated by national security concerns. The Aviary's agenda, on the

1151
01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:41.760
<v Speaker 2>other hand, was authored was authored somewhere within the balls

1152
01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>of the deep state. Aviary was the classic example of

1153
01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:51.920
<v Speaker 2>a deep state entity. Its activities were morally questionable, and

1154
01:39:52.039 --> 01:39:56.159
<v Speaker 2>it did not receive its mandate anywhere from the public state.

1155
01:39:57.479 --> 01:40:00.479
<v Speaker 2>And more evidence that there was deep state as well

1156
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:06.600
<v Speaker 2>as public state involvement in the In the Benowitt's affair,

1157
01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:13.760
<v Speaker 2>if Benowitz was accidentally compromising national security, all that the

1158
01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:16.439
<v Speaker 2>AFO SI, all that Richard dot You would have had

1159
01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>to do is come to him and say, Paul, kindly

1160
01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:24.399
<v Speaker 2>cease and desist from all your activities and all Benowitz

1161
01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:27.760
<v Speaker 2>was eccentric, but he was. But he was also a

1162
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:30.359
<v Speaker 2>very good hearted person and a patriot, and he would

1163
01:40:30.399 --> 01:40:33.800
<v Speaker 2>have listened. But no, the instead they used him as

1164
01:40:34.079 --> 01:40:38.760
<v Speaker 2>a as a disinformation amplifier and or when when If

1165
01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>it was when, with national security was the sole motivation,

1166
01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:45.000
<v Speaker 2>All they would have had to do is tell him

1167
01:40:45.039 --> 01:40:49.359
<v Speaker 2>the stopping would have stopped. And all so Dotey presented

1168
01:40:49.479 --> 01:40:55.479
<v Speaker 2>how with an alleged briefing paper regarding alien's visitation like

1169
01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:59.159
<v Speaker 2>The Day the Earth Stood Still, The alleged briefing paper

1170
01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:05.319
<v Speaker 2>presents a Christ like figure that originated with extraterrestrials as

1171
01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:10.359
<v Speaker 2>opposed to a transcended God. How testified quote there was

1172
01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:16.600
<v Speaker 2>a paragraph that stated, two thousand years ago, extraterrestrials created

1173
01:41:16.640 --> 01:41:19.800
<v Speaker 2>a being that was placed on Earth to teach mankind

1174
01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>about love and nonviolence. Reading this document caused how to

1175
01:41:24.960 --> 01:41:31.720
<v Speaker 2>believe that Jesus Christ was a herald of extraterrestrial civilizations

1176
01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>instead of God's redeemer. So the Messiah motif was being

1177
01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:41.079
<v Speaker 2>co opted by deep stinct forces to promote concepts and

1178
01:41:41.199 --> 01:41:46.079
<v Speaker 2>ideas that originated with the oligarchs. The ends of UFO

1179
01:41:46.279 --> 01:41:51.399
<v Speaker 2>disinformation we find in doctrinal warfare is a new Jesus

1180
01:41:51.600 --> 01:41:55.840
<v Speaker 2>preaching a new gospel tailored to the contours of the

1181
01:41:55.920 --> 01:42:01.840
<v Speaker 2>global oligarchical establishments for human So we see pop culture

1182
01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:07.800
<v Speaker 2>had already seeded the uphology community for this in years

1183
01:42:07.880 --> 01:42:12.600
<v Speaker 2>in advance with the with the promotion of the film

1184
01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:15.039
<v Speaker 2>There the Day the Earth Stood Still, we already have

1185
01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:20.600
<v Speaker 2>that masienic motif in place and we already have the

1186
01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:25.239
<v Speaker 2>transposition of the escaton into space. We already have the

1187
01:42:26.359 --> 01:42:32.760
<v Speaker 2>reinterpretation of aliens as angels, all modern myth making all

1188
01:42:34.319 --> 01:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>already we have Linda Malton House mind seeded with those beliefs.

1189
01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:44.319
<v Speaker 2>In this regard, UFO disinformation agents may be drawing inspiration

1190
01:42:44.479 --> 01:42:48.279
<v Speaker 2>from one of the progenitors of the modern deep state,

1191
01:42:48.520 --> 01:42:55.960
<v Speaker 2>the Bavarian Illuminati. This eighteenth century secret society also attempted

1192
01:42:56.039 --> 01:43:00.079
<v Speaker 2>to introduce a new Jesus and a new Gospel. The

1193
01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Bavarian Illuminatis founder professor of canon law at English Dot

1194
01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:10.439
<v Speaker 2>and Vice Shop, abandoned the Orthodox understanding of salvation. The

1195
01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Orthodox understanding is that salvation is the restoration of communion

1196
01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:21.279
<v Speaker 2>with God through his son Jesus Christ. Shalt presented to

1197
01:43:21.439 --> 01:43:25.319
<v Speaker 2>his order a different Jesus with a different death to salvation.

1198
01:43:25.920 --> 01:43:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I Shalt states that Jesus came to teach man how

1199
01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:33.640
<v Speaker 2>to liberate himself from ignorance through the use of reason,

1200
01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:39.479
<v Speaker 2>which which I shout capitalizes to indicate that reason is

1201
01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Divinity incarnated as the human mind. For Shalt, reason was

1202
01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:51.319
<v Speaker 2>a surrogate for Divinity, the agency through which man would

1203
01:43:51.359 --> 01:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>solve all of his problems. Without any assistance from a

1204
01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:59.800
<v Speaker 2>transcendent God. Shop wrote, quote the secret preserved through the

1205
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:04.079
<v Speaker 2>disciplinanum or can i, and the aim appearing through all

1206
01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:07.079
<v Speaker 2>his words in deeds to give back to man their

1207
01:44:07.279 --> 01:44:10.159
<v Speaker 2>rich is to give back to man their original liberty

1208
01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:14.760
<v Speaker 2>and equality. Now one can understand how far Jesus was

1209
01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:17.920
<v Speaker 2>the redeemer and savior of the world. The mission of

1210
01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Christ was therefore by means of reason to make man

1211
01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:24.840
<v Speaker 2>capable of freedom. When at last reason becomes the religion

1212
01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:30.199
<v Speaker 2>of man, so will the problem be solved. Shop also,

1213
01:44:30.680 --> 01:44:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Saul was also saw himself as something of a Masonic reformer,

1214
01:44:35.159 --> 01:44:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and he believed freemasonry to be a kind of secret

1215
01:44:40.119 --> 01:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>doctrine that Christ taught to his apostles. Shopped asserted, quote,

1216
01:44:47.039 --> 01:44:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Freemasonry is hid in Christianity, and we find that Freemasonry

1217
01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:59.199
<v Speaker 2>has seen very significant ties to UFO deception through Christopher Melon.

1218
01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Christopher Mellan. His resume includes being a former United States

1219
01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and a former

1220
01:45:09.239 --> 01:45:13.319
<v Speaker 2>staff director of the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

1221
01:45:14.399 --> 01:45:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Christopher Mellan is part of the of of the oligarchical

1222
01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:23.479
<v Speaker 2>set the melon industry. I mean the Mellon dynasty. He

1223
01:45:24.199 --> 01:45:30.560
<v Speaker 2>is part of that whole oli some man submerged oligarchy

1224
01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:38.720
<v Speaker 2>that exists here in America. And this this Mellon dynasty,

1225
01:45:40.119 --> 01:45:45.960
<v Speaker 2>it claims uh Pittsburgh entrepreneur and banker Thomas mell mell

1226
01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:51.000
<v Speaker 2>as it's as its patriarch. Thomas Mellon. Mellon belonged to

1227
01:45:51.159 --> 01:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>the Pittsburgh Scotch Irish industrial community. This is significant because

1228
01:45:57.680 --> 01:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the Scotch Irish Industrial commun unity owes much of its

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<v Speaker 2>existence to Freemasonry. Freemasonry basically established that particular business community.

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas Melon's collaboration with Freemasons included loans to Henry Clay Frick,

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<v Speaker 2>the infamous industrialist and union buster. Frick and rased Freemason

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<v Speaker 2>the Free Masonic Conception of God. He was a treasurer

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<v Speaker 2>at the King Solomon's Lodge number three forty six and Comasville,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was a member of the of the Urania

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<v Speaker 2>Law Chapter number one ninety two green at Greensburg. It

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<v Speaker 2>was almost inevitable that the Melons would imbibe Freemasonry. One

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<v Speaker 2>of Thomas Mellon's sons, Us Secretary of Treasury Andrew William Mellon,

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<v Speaker 2>was a Freemason, and according to a free Masonic source,

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<v Speaker 2>he was able to attain the much coveted thirty third

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<v Speaker 2>degree of free Masonry.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, I'm not trying to be rude. I want to

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<v Speaker 5>cut you guys off, but we can come back and

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<v Speaker 5>do a part two. But I am going to have

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<v Speaker 5>to get to the super chats here because we're going

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<v Speaker 5>up towards two hours. So let's get you back on

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<v Speaker 5>a part too soon in the near future when I've

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<v Speaker 5>read more of the book. I've only gotten a few

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<v Speaker 5>chapters in and it's really good. So let's get to

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<v Speaker 5>some of these super chats we've got. First up is

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<v Speaker 5>where is it at? Luthian? For ten dollars. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>have anything to say other than that you've been helpful

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<v Speaker 5>in under my understanding of orthodoxy. That's all, well, thank you, Luthian,

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<v Speaker 5>much appreciated. Big BALLA for five dollars. What is up

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<v Speaker 5>with all of the progressive woke stuff? Where is it

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<v Speaker 5>coming from and where's it taking us? Well, it's really

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<v Speaker 5>just a tool of social engineering, and it's taking us

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<v Speaker 5>into the global technocratic world government. So you know that's

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<v Speaker 5>that's the whole point of it. John Connor five dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Schopenhauer was Kant's blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy.

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<v Speaker 5>I know this because I come Fromman descent. My gamgam

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<v Speaker 5>told me that Schopenhauer drained the blood from Nietzsche, and

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<v Speaker 5>Nietzsche engaged in certain activities with Adolph, who gave us

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<v Speaker 5>angela merkle. Okay, that person's joking. Five dollars are the

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<v Speaker 5>College brothers? Are the College Brothers kg KGB spies because

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<v Speaker 5>they look like Russians. They are super agents, they're sleeper agents.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's just he's just joking.

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<v Speaker 2>German descent, a little bit of American.

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<v Speaker 5>Jmel are ginger. There you go, Jmail says thirty dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Any Jacobsen wrote in her book on Roswell that the

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<v Speaker 5>Saucer event Roswell Saucer event was a Russian style. Did

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<v Speaker 5>the US government government know it was coming to it

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<v Speaker 5>was coming so they could capitalize on a social engineering opportunity.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't buy that it was a Russian operation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a we don't either. We go

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<v Speaker 2>we go into that in the book. We believe that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a cover story for a cover story, and a

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<v Speaker 2>h uh. Philip Corso, in his book The Day After Roswell.

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<v Speaker 2>He claims that it's all alien, but he betrays the

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<v Speaker 2>reality of it at the beginning of the book because

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<v Speaker 2>he says that he brings it, that he had to

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<v Speaker 2>bring in her Ermine Oberth and and uh von Verner

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<v Speaker 2>von Braun and all to to look at the debris

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<v Speaker 2>because it resembled a Nazi technology. Well, if it's of

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<v Speaker 2>alien origin, why does it resemble a Nazi technology and all?

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<v Speaker 2>So we think we think that it was that it

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<v Speaker 2>was either it was probably produced the indeed went off

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<v Speaker 2>in three different directions, the Soviet Union, United States, and

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<v Speaker 2>an extra territorial state. We believe, we present the case

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<v Speaker 2>in the book that it was most likely Nazi orient

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<v Speaker 2>R and D that found its approximate origins with America,

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<v Speaker 2>with Capturedzi Nazi scientists here in the United States. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was Nazis. It was Nazis in the employe of

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<v Speaker 2>the American deep state. And I believe that in this regard,

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<v Speaker 2>Annie Jacobsen was probably manipulated. That's just our personal opinion.

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<v Speaker 5>Gotcha a World Economic Forum since twenty dollars submit. I

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<v Speaker 5>think the World Economic Forum is telling me to submit

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<v Speaker 5>to their global mandates. So that's also another joke profile,

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<v Speaker 5>but thank you for that submission, and thank you guys again.

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<v Speaker 5>The book is invoking Beyond and you can get that

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<v Speaker 5>at the link that I put in the show description

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<v Speaker 5>over at I whatever it is. I yeah, I've got

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<v Speaker 5>the link there. So thank you guys very much, and

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<v Speaker 5>we'll have you back and we'll get deeper into this

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<v Speaker 5>because there's just so much content and too much to

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<v Speaker 5>cover and in one installment, so we'll we'll definitely have

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<v Speaker 5>some more installments. But thank you guys so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, thank you