WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.480 From the range to the field. CZ firearms are built 2 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:08.279 to perform when it counts. Known for accuracy, durability and reliability, 3 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:12.800 CZ stands apart. CZ built for those who demand more. 4 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:15.640 CZ Firearms dot Com. 5 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.519 Forged, mlock Ready and I try to Bolt Carrier Group. 6 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:23.320 The Ruger Harrier is completely re engineered for today's shooter. 7 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:27.480 Innovation without compromise comes standard with the Harrier. 8 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:32.520 All right, we're back with you here, Tom Gresham, give 9 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:34.759 me a call it. We'll call me Tom Talk Gun. 10 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.479 That's the easiest way to remember the phone number. Of course, 11 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:39.560 this is gun Talk. Glad you're with us. Love to 12 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:41.119 get your range reports. If you've been out to the 13 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:43.719 arrange doing little shooting, what'd you take and how'd the 14 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:44.240 shooting go? 15 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:45.560 Give me a holler now. 16 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:49.439 Of course, we're in this crazy age of all sorts 17 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:51.560 of new products and new technologies, and. 18 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:52.560 I mean it's a great time. 19 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:56.479 We've got really great guns and really good optics in 20 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:00.880 the electro optic world has frankly changed the way we 21 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:04.359 look at guns. Joining me right now, John Bailey from Eotech. John, 22 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:08.799 I'm just looking at your website right now. Eotech Man, 23 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.120 you guys have got some of the coolest stuff out there. 24 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:16.280 You're not only are you have good stuff, you explain it, well, well. 25 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:19.760 I appreciate it. Yeah, we've over the years, we've really evolved. 26 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:20.879 You know. 27 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:23.439 We're excited to kind of get into new things and 28 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:25.680 I think we'll talk about it. But we're not just 29 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:28.760 a holographic site anymore. Although that's still our bread and 30 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:32.439 butter and it's doing incredibly well. But we wanted to 31 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:35.599 provide products for all kinds of shooters and I think 32 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:36.040 we have. 33 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:40.599 Well, yeah, you got everything from scopes to lasers, to 34 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.280 the holographic to suppressors. That's all over the place. Are 35 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:47.640 we at this point just you're obviously you're in the 36 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.040 business and you make this stuff. But I'm thinking we 37 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:54.480 are well past the point of anybody actually thinking do 38 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:58.799 red dot sites or do optics make a difference? 39 00:01:59.359 --> 00:01:59.879 Are we passed? 40 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.519 Uh? I think people see it immediately. 41 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:06.799 We're we're a very visual company, especially to explain to 42 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.599 holographic you know, product, it's it's visual. 43 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:11.919 But once you see in a red dots in the 44 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:13.240 same in the same boat. 45 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:17.919 But once you see our radical on a holographics, it 46 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:21.120 will blow away any old school iron sights, you know, 47 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:24.960 where you have to line things up and then change 48 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:27.960 your focus to your target and confirmed by bringing your 49 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.960 focus back. All of those things are are just slow 50 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:37.479 and harder to holographic, you know, holographic site or red dot. 51 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:40.599 You know, it's really point and shoot, it's immediate, it's 52 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:45.599 really fast on follow ups. It's so people that have 53 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:48.120 been shooting, if they've been shooting iron sights, I think 54 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:53.719 that they see, you know, something more uh technologically advanced, 55 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:56.319 like the red dot or holographic site. They will see 56 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:59.919 a difference immediately. And hopefully the beginners that are getting 57 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:03.879 into the industry are seeing those same optics friends or 58 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:08.879 trainers firearms and getting into the iron sight stuff, because 59 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:13.800 it's just that they're eventually going to get into the tech. 60 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.120 Stuff and go through that pain. 61 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:17.199 Right, what's the difference between a red dot and a 62 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:18.280 holographic site? 63 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:19.599 Oh my gosh, how much time? 64 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:23.680 You got to make it short because I have a 65 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:24.599 short attention span. 66 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:29.879 Holography doesn't compromise on anything. So it uses a laser 67 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:34.000 diode compared to an LED, and what we're able to 68 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:37.120 do is create any radical image that we want, and 69 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:41.599 we found the circle dot provides the most speed and 70 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:45.400 the most accuracy, because with holography, the main advantage in 71 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:49.840 my mind is the dot is a laser, so it's 72 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:53.199 a two point source, so it is ridiculously small, smaller 73 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.360 than you and I can really see, so we see 74 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:56.280 it as one mla. 75 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:58.000 So you have a very. 76 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:02.639 Fine, crisp dot for more precise shooting a distance, but 77 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:05.879 you have the ring that gets you on target faster 78 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:09.879 than what a dot would individually, so there's no compromise. 79 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:13.360 You're on target faster, and especially because of a rectangular 80 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:17.079 heads up display type window. But for distance a little 81 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:20.519 longer shooting, you have more accuracy because the dot is smaller, 82 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.519 and the second biggest advantage with that dot being a 83 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:26.800 laser diode, So when you put a magnifier behind it, 84 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.199 the dot is still because it's so small. 85 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:32.639 Even magnified, it's still. 86 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:34.879 Less than one ma, so you and I are still 87 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:38.439 only seeing that at one ma with a magnifier. So 88 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:43.279 you maintain or actually gain more accuracy with a magnifier. 89 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:47.680 Where's a red dot, you're growing that dot and your target. 90 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:48.079 At the same rate. 91 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:53.079 Not much at advantage there compared to holography, So that's 92 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:53.720 all right. 93 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:55.199 That's the biggest advantage. 94 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:59.199 Okay, you guys are the technological wizards here. Explain the 95 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.759 difference between you closed emitter and an opening mitter. 96 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:06.279 Yeah, so we started with an opening minter and that's 97 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:08.199 when we got into it. That's kind of what the 98 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:12.279 space was for pistol optics. If an opening minter is 99 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:15.879 basically one piece of glass with a little well behind 100 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:20.279 the battery cap essentially, and that's where your LED diode is, 101 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:24.720 and that diode projects the light up against that window 102 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:27.399 and actually it reflects back, so you're able to see 103 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:30.399 that red dot and it works great. They there's tons 104 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:33.000 of them. Our reflex is one of the best ones 105 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.439 out there. But what happens is if you get into 106 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:40.560 some weather or you get dust or debris or anything 107 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:43.639 like that, it could sometimes cover that LED or block 108 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.879 that LED. And if you don't have that, you don't 109 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:47.759 have a dot. You know, you know, you're not able 110 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:55.199 to shoot. So closed emitters essentially enclose that diode, so 111 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:58.120 they have two pieces of glass and it protects that 112 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:03.399 LED from being you know, covered or even damage. 113 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:05.279 So we're seeing a lot more. 114 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:08.439 I think it was really driven by law enforcement and 115 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:09.720 even some military stuff. 116 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.560 It's you know, they certainly can't have can't afford to 117 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:14.279 have that happen. 118 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:17.680 Yeah, they got dirty, dusty, rainy environments and they can't 119 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:19.480 have the loss of their site. 120 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:20.240 That's right. 121 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:24.639 So all it does is take that that possibility out 122 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:27.000 of the equation, you know, and a lot of times 123 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:31.240 that it makes the housing a little bit bigger than 124 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.959 an open emitter, and that probably provides a little extra 125 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:37.439 durability and things like that that they certainly need as well. 126 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.040 It's kind of a weather sealed system. 127 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.160 Not that the weather is going to knock out an 128 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:45.040 open emitter, but if you get rain and dust and 129 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.199 stuff on there, now it's going to I mean, you 130 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.480 got basically rain drops or whatever it is, it can 131 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:52.399 mess up your view or as you say, it could 132 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.360 even cover up the emitter entirely. 133 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:55.240 That's it. 134 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:59.199 Even a simple rain drop or a you know, sweat 135 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.279 or something like that can completely distort You might still 136 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:04.879 see the dot, but it can completely distort it and 137 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:08.959 make it unusable. So, uh, it really is kind of important, 138 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.160 you know, if you're gonna just go to the range 139 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:13.720 and plink and things like that, and open emitter is 140 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.800 really everything you need. But if you're going to use 141 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:25.519 it for training or professional use, or if you carry gun, yeah, yeah, exactly, 142 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:27.839 rely on it for a home defense or carry gun 143 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:28.920 closed demitter. 144 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.959 You know, it just takes away, you know, some of 145 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:31.759 those possibilities. 146 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:33.560 And I'm looking at your option to You got the 147 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:36.639 e flex and the Eflex CE for closed demitter, and 148 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:40.079 it's about one hundred hundred and twenty bucks more for 149 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.120 the closed emitter in the And I'm just thinking in 150 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.439 the greater scheme of things, if you had dollars or dollars, 151 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:47.680 but if you say, okay, I expect this thing to 152 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:51.040 last me ten years easy, which it should, you advertise 153 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:53.279 that out. You can never find the difference. So just 154 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:55.199 get the one that you feel like you want. 155 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:58.560 No, I think you're right on right there. There are 156 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:02.480 added features to this CE that will make your spend 157 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:06.839 more justified. You know, there's shake Awake, there's switchable radicals, 158 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:10.920 there's an integrated rear backup iron sight. So we added 159 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:14.199 some more bells and whistles to it that again will 160 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:17.759 help with carry issues and you know home defense that 161 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.959 shake awake is really nice when something goes bumping the 162 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:23.319 night and you want to grab your pistol and automatically 163 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.000 pops right right on and ready to go. 164 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:29.360 So there are extra features that kind of justify that 165 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:31.040 extra spend, all right. 166 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.360 And we can mention as we've just run by it. 167 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.600 You've got holographic sites for your ars and whatever other 168 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:41.000 kind of rifles you have. But I want to bounce down. 169 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:44.159 You've gotten into suppressures in a big way with some 170 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:45.519 really interesting technology. 171 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:47.720 Everybody's getting into them. 172 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:51.399 The removal of the tax stamp was a you know, 173 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:53.240 a big motivator for a lot of people to get 174 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:58.000 into it. We've never kind of, you know, shared this publicly. 175 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:00.559 I've been with Eotech for over twenty years, and my 176 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:04.559 my goal has always been that Eotech owns the gun, 177 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.720 not necessarily making guns, but we want to be. 178 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:12.279 Every every piece in equipment on the guns. 179 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:15.840 So, yeah, we do holographic sites, we do magnifiers like 180 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:21.200 you mentioned, we do magnified scopes, we have our OGL laser. Yeah, 181 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:23.519 So it just made sense that we would have another 182 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:28.360 component that we could be part of, and suppressors was 183 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:34.320 the logical choice. So we created the Decibel the DCBL suppressor. 184 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:38.799 It's a three D printed grade five titanium, really nice suppressor. 185 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.759 We offer it in three oh eight five five six 186 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:46.200 and a nine milimeter that's designed specifically for PCC guns. 187 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:48.000 And they are great suppressors. 188 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:51.759 They have a really nice sound, takes into account in 189 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:54.879 the design, and the monolithic core takes into account all 190 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:57.039 the back pressure and things like that. That so it 191 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:00.879 makes for a really smooth shooting gun and eliminates a 192 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.120 lot of that recoil. So we're really happy with it. 193 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:05.960 We went after kind of the sound aspect of. 194 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:08.919 It rather than the weight. Usually when you go after 195 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:10.919 and try to reduce weight. 196 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:12.720 You kind of have a little bit more sound, and 197 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:15.080 sure we're hoping more of a comfortable shooting. 198 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:17.480 It's a give or take deal. You can go real lightweight, 199 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:19.320 but it's going to become louder, you know. It's we 200 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:23.200 unders said. Let me just tell you congratulations to you guys. 201 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:28.320 You have the most useful and best set of FAQs. 202 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.320 Frequently ask questions on suppressors and all the rest of 203 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:32.519 stuff on your website. 204 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.240 I mean, if anybody needs to know anything about. 205 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:37.720 Suppressors, how do they work, how loud are they, how 206 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:40.679 much do they help? What's the thread pitch? How do 207 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:43.679 I attach it to my gun? What's the lifespan? Just 208 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:46.879 goes on and on and on. Whoever did this did 209 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:48.159 a happinous job. 210 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:50.279 Man, Well, I appreciate it. 211 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:53.240 I contributed quite a bit to it, and it was 212 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:56.200 you know, I have several suppressors myself, and when we 213 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.879 got into it, I thought about, you know, what our 214 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:02.960 consumers and customer is going to call us for and 215 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:03.679 ask us. 216 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:04.840 Because we're new to the game. 217 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:07.840 So we came up with that entire list and hopefully 218 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:10.519 that you know, solves a lot of people's questions and 219 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:12.840 doesn't require a phone call to our customer service. 220 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:15.720 But certainly they can they can get into more. 221 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:19.159 But it's like the pressure one on one school. It 222 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:20.720 is great what you've done here. 223 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:23.840 Good, thank you. Yeah, no, I think it's helpful. 224 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:28.559 It educates the consumer hopefully, uh you know, they go 225 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:30.919 in with a more confident buying experience. 226 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.159 So yeah, we're happy with it. 227 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:36.440 And it's probably not even complete, you know, there's probably 228 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:37.320 still more to add to it. 229 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:38.840 Oh yeah, you'll be had to, all right. 230 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:41.440 So the obvious question that you get all the time, 231 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:44.320 and even if it's not said out loud, it's said 232 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:48.159 in somebody's mind. They're looking at your your optics, your 233 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:49.080 pistol optics. 234 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:52.360 You say, Okay, you know, yeah, Okay, I could buy. 235 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.840 A pistol optic for less than this, why should I 236 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:57.639 buy an eotech? 237 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:00.399 The answers always are testing in our quality. 238 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:05.399 So most of our products are all like the holographic 239 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.879 sites and the magnifiers, our pistol sites, our ogl are 240 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:14.600 all manufactured, assembled, tested in Plymouth, Michigan in USA. 241 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.000 Yeah, so I think that's a big, big difference. 242 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:26.799 And we've always had incredible testing machines and protocols and 243 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:29.320 all of that stuff, to the point where for our 244 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.039 holographic site, when we started that and had the contract 245 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:38.639 with Socom, Socom wanted to replicate our testing systems because 246 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:39.639 we were so. 247 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:40.039 Good at it. 248 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:43.720 So we put all of our products, whether it's you know, 249 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:47.799 rifle scopes or or you know, holographic sites through the 250 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:50.320 same thing, and we put them through all the environmentals. 251 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:53.480 We put them through shock and recoil and all that stuff. 252 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.600 So I think when we designed something and we eventually 253 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:00.960 get to market, it's already proven where I think a 254 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:04.080 lot of others, especially things that may have come from overseas, 255 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:06.519 kind of come cookie cutter and. 256 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:09.159 You know you're gonna eventually probably have some issues. 257 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:12.399 So I think that's the big difference between other than 258 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.720 like technology that people can't do like holography. I think 259 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.679 it comes down to the testing and the quality before 260 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:20.240 the product gets in the hands of the shooter. 261 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.480 Well, and one other thing. You mentioned it, but you 262 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:24.039 went by it in a hurry. I want to mention 263 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:27.480 it again, made in America, by Americans, and that's huge 264 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:28.919 when it comes to the optics world. 265 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:32.159 Yeah, yeah, it really is. You know, not too many 266 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.720 people can do it, and every day we do it. 267 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:38.360 It's really really hard. But I think that carries a 268 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:42.440 lot of weight, especially for professional users, and when professional 269 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:46.039 users use their stuff, that trickles down to everybody else. 270 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:47.240 So that's kind of our mantra. 271 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:50.759 We obviously people could take a look at Eotechinciinc. 272 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:51.679 Dot com. 273 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:54.679 Yeah, last thing for you, you got the floor. You're going 274 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:56.480 to tell somebody this is what you really need to 275 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:58.919 know about Eotech, the company and the people. 276 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.200 You are just a great group of people. There's an 277 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:06.039 incredible culture here. Everybody likes really what they're doing. It's 278 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:09.480 it's fun. It's a fun environment. We you know, we 279 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:12.919 are getting into new products and new product categories, so 280 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:14.759 I think that's exciting for a lot of people. 281 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.840 You know, there's some that have always just been. 282 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:20.039 One trick pony, and we were for a long time 283 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:23.039 with the holographic site, but we brought in people that 284 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:26.559 are experts and magnified rifle scopes. We brought people in 285 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:29.639 that our experts in the laser systems. 286 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:32.399 And night vision and thermal and really kind of created 287 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:36.799 a really cool, nicely you know, tight fit group. And 288 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:38.120 it's just, you know, you can. 289 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.879 Just tell that people have fun and enjoy what they're 290 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:43.360 doing and like to come up with new products and 291 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:45.600 like to get out on the range and like to 292 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:48.399 go train with people, and it's it's just it's fun. 293 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:52.279 It's hard to h it's just it's a great environment. 294 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:55.799 Well, we didn't even talk about your line of rifle scopes. 295 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:57.639 They're very cool. I encourage people to go take a 296 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:00.440 look at eotech Inc. Dot com. Jo, thank you so 297 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:01.200 much for your time. 298 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:03.360 All right, Tom, I appreciate it. 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Don't get out of your car. 345 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:23.640 Don't flip people off in your car when you're driving, 346 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:28.359 don't be honking your horn at people, check your ego, 347 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:29.920 slow it down, put. 348 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:32.119 On classical music if you have to. 349 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:37.559 If you get into a situation where you're stopped and 350 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:41.279 somebody's pounding on your car, don't get out. Don't try 351 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:44.319 to prove to them that you're right and they're wrong. 352 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:51.279 You have no idea what this person is all about. 353 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:58.400 Whether he's just crazy, or he's suicidal, or he's just 354 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:03.000 committed murder and killed his wife and kids, or he's 355 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:05.440 just decided he's not going back to jail again. 356 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:08.440 Or whatever. 357 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:14.599 You just don't know. Remember, he's not like you. There's 358 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:19.400 a good chance this person is not like you. And 359 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:21.079 so how do you get out of a situation like that? 360 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:21.319 Well? 361 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:28.279 Apologize when no apologize, apology is warranted. I am sure sorry, 362 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:30.640 Oh man, are you guys okay? I am really yeah, 363 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:33.359 I know, I know, I'm sorry. What do we need 364 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:36.119 to do or just not get out of the car. 365 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:38.039 If you had an accident, you got to deal with it. 366 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:44.200 You cannot assume that everybody's working on the same wavelength 367 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:48.880 that you are. Just again, get your mind right. Don't 368 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:52.640 put yourself into a position where somebody could do something 369 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:57.440 savagely violent to you unexpectedly. All right, Just got this 370 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:00.880 email during the show from Will in Orgon. He says, 371 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:06.279 my carry guns are a pair of Ruger LCP two 372 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:10.559 pistols and twenty two long rifle. He's carrying two guns, 373 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:13.759 each of them in twenty two long rifle, he says, 374 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:16.200 with one in the chamber and a ten round mag. 375 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:20.720 They provide me with twenty two shots. So he's got 376 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:23.000 two guns. He's got twenty two shots between them, he says, 377 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:27.200 with five extra mags, I have seventy two shots on board. 378 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.599 And here's just thinking behind it. He says, I hit 379 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:32.359 with a twenty two is better than I miss with 380 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:35.640 a forty five. He says, by the way, with these guns, 381 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:37.240 I can hit the side of a two by four 382 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:42.599 at twenty five yards. What do you think of a 383 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:48.200 super compact pistol and twenty two rim fire as your 384 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:53.039 carry gun? Clearly Will can shoot. He's a volunteer at 385 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:57.200 the local shooting range, and he's thought it through. He's 386 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:59.400 got two of these on him at any given time. 387 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:02.920 Just I don't know, wonder what you think of food 388 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:08.400 for thought. There there's really no right or wrong to 389 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:12.480 all this. The main thing is can you make hits? 390 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:18.240 And trust me, that's more main thing than your times 391 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:21.680 on your timer. And I know, I know everybody wants 392 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:24.039 to show their cool split times and their draw times. 393 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:26.400 And I got a one second draw on you know, 394 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:31.799 my Instagram channel looking great. Fine, None of it matters 395 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:35.240 if you can't put the first shot on target. The 396 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:41.000 first shot has to be on target every time. So 397 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:43.880 the people I know, the real pros, the people who 398 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:48.119 actually have been in gunfights. You watch them and they'll 399 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.720 draw fast, and then they take that split second, maybe 400 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.799 a little breath, and then press the trigger. It's not 401 00:21:55.839 --> 00:22:01.119