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Speaker 1: From the range to the field. CZ firearms are built

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Speaker 2: Forged, mlock Ready and I try to Bolt Carrier Group.

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The Ruger Harrier is completely re engineered for today's shooter.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're back with you here, Tom Gresham, give

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me a call it. We'll call me Tom Talk Gun.

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That's the easiest way to remember the phone number. Of course,

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this is gun Talk. Glad you're with us. Love to

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get your range reports. If you've been out to the

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arrange doing little shooting, what'd you take and how'd the

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shooting go?

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Speaker 4: Give me a holler now.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we're in this crazy age of all sorts

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of new products and new technologies, and.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a great time.

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Speaker 3: We've got really great guns and really good optics in

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the electro optic world has frankly changed the way we

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look at guns. Joining me right now, John Bailey from Eotech. John,

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I'm just looking at your website right now. Eotech Man,

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you guys have got some of the coolest stuff out there.

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You're not only are you have good stuff, you explain it, well, well.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Yeah, we've over the years, we've really evolved.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: We're excited to kind of get into new things and

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I think we'll talk about it. But we're not just

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a holographic site anymore. Although that's still our bread and

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butter and it's doing incredibly well. But we wanted to

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provide products for all kinds of shooters and I think

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we have.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you got everything from scopes to lasers, to

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the holographic to suppressors. That's all over the place. Are

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we at this point just you're obviously you're in the

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business and you make this stuff. But I'm thinking we

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are well past the point of anybody actually thinking do

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red dot sites or do optics make a difference?

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Speaker 4: Are we passed?

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Speaker 5: Uh? I think people see it immediately.

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Speaker 6: We're we're a very visual company, especially to explain to

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holographic you know, product, it's it's visual.

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Speaker 5: But once you see in a red dots in the

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same in the same boat.

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Speaker 6: But once you see our radical on a holographics, it

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will blow away any old school iron sights, you know,

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where you have to line things up and then change

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your focus to your target and confirmed by bringing your

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focus back. All of those things are are just slow

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and harder to holographic, you know, holographic site or red dot.

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really fast on follow ups. It's so people that have

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been shooting, if they've been shooting iron sights, I think

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that they see, you know, something more uh technologically advanced,

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like the red dot or holographic site. They will see

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a difference immediately. And hopefully the beginners that are getting

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into the industry are seeing those same optics friends or

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trainers firearms and getting into the iron sight stuff, because

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it's just that they're eventually going to get into the tech.

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Speaker 5: Stuff and go through that pain.

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Speaker 3: Right, what's the difference between a red dot and a

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holographic site?

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, how much time?

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Speaker 3: You got to make it short because I have a

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short attention span.

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Speaker 6: Holography doesn't compromise on anything. So it uses a laser

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diode compared to an LED, and what we're able to

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do is create any radical image that we want, and

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we found the circle dot provides the most speed and

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the most accuracy, because with holography, the main advantage in

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my mind is the dot is a laser, so it's

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a two point source, so it is ridiculously small, smaller

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than you and I can really see, so we see

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Speaker 6: Fine, crisp dot for more precise shooting a distance, but

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you have the ring that gets you on target faster

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than what a dot would individually, so there's no compromise.

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longer shooting, you have more accuracy because the dot is smaller,

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laser diode, So when you put a magnifier behind it,

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the dot is still because it's so small.

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only seeing that at one ma with a magnifier. So

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you maintain or actually gain more accuracy with a magnifier.

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Speaker 6: Not much at advantage there compared to holography, So that's

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Speaker 5: That's the biggest advantage.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you guys are the technological wizards here. Explain the

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difference between you closed emitter and an opening mitter.

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when we got into it. That's kind of what the

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space was for pistol optics. If an opening minter is

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basically one piece of glass with a little well behind

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the battery cap essentially, and that's where your LED diode is,

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and that diode projects the light up against that window

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and actually it reflects back, so you're able to see

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that red dot and it works great. They there's tons

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of them. Our reflex is one of the best ones

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out there. But what happens is if you get into

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some weather or you get dust or debris or anything

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like that, it could sometimes cover that LED or block

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that LED. And if you don't have that, you don't

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have a dot. You know, you know, you're not able

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to shoot. So closed emitters essentially enclose that diode, so

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they have two pieces of glass and it protects that

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LED from being you know, covered or even damage.

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Speaker 5: So we're seeing a lot more.

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Speaker 6: I think it was really driven by law enforcement and

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even some military stuff.

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Speaker 5: It's you know, they certainly can't have can't afford to

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have that happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got dirty, dusty, rainy environments and they can't

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have the loss of their site.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 6: So all it does is take that that possibility out

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of the equation, you know, and a lot of times

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that it makes the housing a little bit bigger than

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an open emitter, and that probably provides a little extra

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durability and things like that that they certainly need as well.

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Speaker 3: Not that the weather is going to knock out an

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open emitter, but if you get rain and dust and

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stuff on there, now it's going to I mean, you

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got basically rain drops or whatever it is, it can

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even cover up the emitter entirely.

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Speaker 6: Even a simple rain drop or a you know, sweat

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or something like that can completely distort You might still

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see the dot, but it can completely distort it and

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make it unusable. So, uh, it really is kind of important,

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you know, if you're gonna just go to the range

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and plink and things like that, and open emitter is

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really everything you need. But if you're going to use

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it for training or professional use, or if you carry gun, yeah, yeah, exactly,

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rely on it for a home defense or carry gun

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closed demitter.

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Speaker 5: You know, it just takes away, you know, some of

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those possibilities.

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Speaker 3: And I'm looking at your option to You got the

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e flex and the Eflex CE for closed demitter, and

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it's about one hundred hundred and twenty bucks more for

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the closed emitter in the And I'm just thinking in

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the greater scheme of things, if you had dollars or dollars,

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but if you say, okay, I expect this thing to

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last me ten years easy, which it should, you advertise

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that out. You can never find the difference. So just

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get the one that you feel like you want.

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Speaker 6: No, I think you're right on right there. There are

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added features to this CE that will make your spend

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more justified. You know, there's shake Awake, there's switchable radicals,

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there's an integrated rear backup iron sight. So we added

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some more bells and whistles to it that again will

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help with carry issues and you know home defense that

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shake awake is really nice when something goes bumping the

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night and you want to grab your pistol and automatically

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pops right right on and ready to go.

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Speaker 5: So there are extra features that kind of justify that

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extra spend, all right.

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Speaker 4: And we can mention as we've just run by it.

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Speaker 3: You've got holographic sites for your ars and whatever other

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kind of rifles you have. But I want to bounce down.

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You've gotten into suppressures in a big way with some

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really interesting technology.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's getting into them.

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Speaker 6: The removal of the tax stamp was a you know,

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a big motivator for a lot of people to get

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into it. We've never kind of, you know, shared this publicly.

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I've been with Eotech for over twenty years, and my

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my goal has always been that Eotech owns the gun,

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not necessarily making guns, but we want to be.

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Speaker 5: Every every piece in equipment on the guns.

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Speaker 6: So, yeah, we do holographic sites, we do magnifiers like

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you mentioned, we do magnified scopes, we have our OGL laser. Yeah,

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component that we could be part of, and suppressors was

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the logical choice. So we created the Decibel the DCBL suppressor.

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It's a three D printed grade five titanium, really nice suppressor.

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We offer it in three oh eight five five six

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and a nine milimeter that's designed specifically for PCC guns.

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Speaker 5: And they are great suppressors.

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Speaker 6: They have a really nice sound, takes into account in

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the design, and the monolithic core takes into account all

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the back pressure and things like that. That so it

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makes for a really smooth shooting gun and eliminates a

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lot of that recoil. So we're really happy with it.

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We went after kind of the sound aspect of.

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Speaker 5: It rather than the weight. Usually when you go after

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Speaker 6: You kind of have a little bit more sound, and

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sure we're hoping more of a comfortable shooting.

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Speaker 3: It's a give or take deal. You can go real lightweight,

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unders said. Let me just tell you congratulations to you guys.

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You have the most useful and best set of FAQs.

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Frequently ask questions on suppressors and all the rest of

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stuff on your website.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if anybody needs to know anything about.

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Speaker 3: Suppressors, how do they work, how loud are they, how

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much do they help? What's the thread pitch? How do

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I attach it to my gun? What's the lifespan? Just

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goes on and on and on. Whoever did this did

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a happinous job.

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Speaker 5: Man, Well, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: I contributed quite a bit to it, and it was

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you know, I have several suppressors myself, and when we

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got into it, I thought about, you know, what our

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consumers and customer is going to call us for and

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ask us.

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Speaker 5: Because we're new to the game.

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Speaker 6: So we came up with that entire list and hopefully

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that you know, solves a lot of people's questions and

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doesn't require a phone call to our customer service.

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Speaker 5: But certainly they can they can get into more.

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Speaker 3: But it's like the pressure one on one school. It

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is great what you've done here.

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Speaker 5: Good, thank you. Yeah, no, I think it's helpful.

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Speaker 6: It educates the consumer hopefully, uh you know, they go

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in with a more confident buying experience.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, we're happy with it.

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Speaker 6: And it's probably not even complete, you know, there's probably

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you'll be had to, all right.

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Speaker 3: So the obvious question that you get all the time,

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in somebody's mind. They're looking at your your optics, your

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Speaker 4: You say, Okay, you know, yeah, Okay, I could buy.

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Speaker 3: A pistol optic for less than this, why should I

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buy an eotech?

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Speaker 5: The answers always are testing in our quality.

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Speaker 6: So most of our products are all like the holographic

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sites and the magnifiers, our pistol sites, our ogl are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think that's a big, big difference.

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Speaker 6: And we've always had incredible testing machines and protocols and

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all of that stuff, to the point where for our

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holographic site, when we started that and had the contract

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with Socom, Socom wanted to replicate our testing systems because

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we were so.

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Speaker 5: Good at it.

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Speaker 6: So we put all of our products, whether it's you know,

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rifle scopes or or you know, holographic sites through the

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same thing, and we put them through all the environmentals.

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Speaker 5: We put them through shock and recoil and all that stuff.

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Speaker 6: So I think when we designed something and we eventually

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lot of others, especially things that may have come from overseas,

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kind of come cookie cutter and.

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Speaker 5: You know you're gonna eventually probably have some issues.

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Speaker 6: So I think that's the big difference between other than

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like technology that people can't do like holography. I think

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it comes down to the testing and the quality before

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the product gets in the hands of the shooter.

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Speaker 3: Well, and one other thing. You mentioned it, but you

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it again, made in America, by Americans, and that's huge

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when it comes to the optics world.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it really is. You know, not too many

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people can do it, and every day we do it.

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It's really really hard. But I think that carries a

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lot of weight, especially for professional users, and when professional

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users use their stuff, that trickles down to everybody else.

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Speaker 5: So that's kind of our mantra.

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Speaker 3: We obviously people could take a look at Eotechinciinc.

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Speaker 4: Dot com.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, last thing for you, you got the floor. You're going

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to tell somebody this is what you really need to

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know about Eotech, the company and the people.

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Speaker 6: You are just a great group of people. There's an

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incredible culture here. Everybody likes really what they're doing. It's

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it's fun. It's a fun environment. We you know, we

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are getting into new products and new product categories, so

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I think that's exciting for a lot of people.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's some that have always just been.

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Speaker 6: One trick pony, and we were for a long time

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with the holographic site, but we brought in people that

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are experts and magnified rifle scopes. We brought people in

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that our experts in the laser systems.

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Speaker 5: And night vision and thermal and really kind of created

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a really cool, nicely you know, tight fit group. And

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it's just, you know, you can.

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Speaker 6: Just tell that people have fun and enjoy what they're

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doing and like to come up with new products and

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like to get out on the range and like to

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go train with people, and it's it's just it's fun.

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It's hard to h it's just it's a great environment.

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Speaker 4: Well, we didn't even talk about your line of rifle scopes.

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Speaker 3: They're very cool. I encourage people to go take a

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look at eotech Inc. Dot com. Jo, thank you so

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much for your time.

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Speaker 5: All right, Tom, I appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: EHG, Well, you had.

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Speaker 3: Another example things we talk about. This one just popped

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up the news as I'm doing the show. A man

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allegedly struck and killed another man with a baseball bat

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and a roads raid attack roads rage attack on the

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belt Parkway in Queens Road Rage. I said this before

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and I'm not sure it's really making much of an impact.

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Speaker 4: But look, here's the deal. Don't get out of your car.

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Speaker 3: Don't flip people off in your car when you're driving,

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don't be honking your horn at people, check your ego,

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slow it down, put.

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Speaker 4: On classical music if you have to.

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Speaker 3: If you get into a situation where you're stopped and

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somebody's pounding on your car, don't get out. Don't try

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to prove to them that you're right and they're wrong.

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You have no idea what this person is all about.

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Whether he's just crazy, or he's suicidal, or he's just

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committed murder and killed his wife and kids, or he's

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just decided he's not going back to jail again.

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Speaker 5: Or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You just don't know. Remember, he's not like you. There's

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a good chance this person is not like you. And

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so how do you get out of a situation like that?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: Apologize when no apologize, apology is warranted. I am sure sorry,

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Oh man, are you guys okay? I am really yeah,

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I know, I know, I'm sorry. What do we need

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to do or just not get out of the car.

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If you had an accident, you got to deal with it.

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You cannot assume that everybody's working on the same wavelength

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that you are. Just again, get your mind right. Don't

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put yourself into a position where somebody could do something

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savagely violent to you unexpectedly. All right, Just got this

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email during the show from Will in Orgon. He says,

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my carry guns are a pair of Ruger LCP two

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pistols and twenty two long rifle. He's carrying two guns,

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each of them in twenty two long rifle, he says,

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with one in the chamber and a ten round mag.

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They provide me with twenty two shots. So he's got

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two guns. He's got twenty two shots between them, he says,

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with five extra mags, I have seventy two shots on board.

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And here's just thinking behind it. He says, I hit

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with a twenty two is better than I miss with

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a forty five. He says, by the way, with these guns,

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I can hit the side of a two by four

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at twenty five yards. What do you think of a

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super compact pistol and twenty two rim fire as your

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carry gun? Clearly Will can shoot. He's a volunteer at

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the local shooting range, and he's thought it through. He's

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got two of these on him at any given time.

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Just I don't know, wonder what you think of food

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for thought. There there's really no right or wrong to

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all this. The main thing is can you make hits?

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And trust me, that's more main thing than your times

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on your timer. And I know, I know everybody wants

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to show their cool split times and their draw times.

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And I got a one second draw on you know,

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my Instagram channel looking great. Fine, None of it matters

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if you can't put the first shot on target. The

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first shot has to be on target every time. So

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the people I know, the real pros, the people who

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actually have been in gunfights. You watch them and they'll

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draw fast, and then they take that split second, maybe

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a little breath, and then press the trigger. It's not

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a drawschoote networks finding competition where or the stakes are

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simply that you don't score as highly as you would

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have when the stakes are higher. You want to come away,

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not going to the morg or to the hospital. You draw,

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pause ever so slightly, and make sure you get that

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first hit. It's a different mindset, but it is the

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mindset you have to have. It's fine to be fast,

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but accuracy is Finally, a simple as that eight six'

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six talk gun that will get you in.

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Speaker 4: Here we'll see it just a.

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Speaker 3: Set, hey welcome back to Gun, Talk Tom. Greshenvire if

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you want to join, us give me a Call Tom Talk.

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Gun it's. Easy we just want to talk about. Anything

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if it's not, guns we'll talk about it. Here one

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of the THINGS i have talked to you about for,

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many many years is that when you start carrying a

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gun for self, protection you need to switch your mindset

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and you need to BECOME i don't, know so you

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have to have an avoidance mechanism there to try to

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avoid these. Situations and there's a story that just popped,

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up AND i just gott to bring In luck McCoy

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FROM Usa Carry. Louke you've put this story out on your,

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website AND i, thought this is the perfect example of

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what we're talking, about isn't it it.

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Speaker 11: IS i was LOOKING i covered defensive gun use incidents

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AND i was scrolling and it came across this WHEN

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i almost passed it up because it's not your, typical you,

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know defensive gun.

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Speaker 12: Use but there's definitely lessons to learn from.

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Speaker 3: It so we got two guys in a line a

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checkout line at a mini mart In, memphis and they

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get into an argument about who should be going first

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in this, line and it turns into a shooting.

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Speaker 12: Turns in a.

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Speaker 11: Shootout, Yeah man one pulls his shirt up so he

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brandishes that he's got a, gun and then the other

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guy jumps for.

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Speaker 12: It they start struggling over the.

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Speaker 11: Gun guy number, two his brother comes from, outside pulls his,

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gun starts. Shooting it's not clear whether the the first

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guy shot the other guy while they were in a.

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Speaker 12: Fight or the brother might have shot. Him i'm not.

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Sure dels were a little, sketchy but, yeah all that

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over who's going next in?

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Speaker 3: Line, yeah you know you're gonna get a bag of

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chips and a coke and you get shot over, it

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and you're going To really WHEN i always tell, people,

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look even if you feel like you're in the right

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and the other person's, wrong there's nothing. Wrong we're, Saying,

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Oh i'm, sorry you go. Ahead not a, problem, Right.

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Speaker 12: Yeah just adds a few more.

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Speaker 11: MINUTES i, mean, yes you can have all the right

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gear on, you but if you can't check your, ego

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then that's what's gonna fail.

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Speaker 3: You it's funny BECAUSE i go to all these shooting,

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schools gunfighting schools at. Everyone the, professionals the people who

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do this for eleven have been doing it for. Decades

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They i'll, say, Look i'll do almost anything to avoid

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getting in a. Fight and these people are really good

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at what they do. Exactly but some people just don't

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seem to have that are you, know what to BE

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i think sometimes they just haven't projected themselves into the

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scenario and, said, okay where could this.

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Speaker 4: Lead it's, like, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to puff up and you know say, ah, yeah,

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no that's my, place or you can't do that to,

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me and not thinking, that, okay in three steps from,

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now somebody's going to the hospital of the.

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Speaker 4: Morgue is that what we want?

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Speaker 5: Here?

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00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 11: RIGHT i, mean that's probably how most of these road

472
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,319
range INCIDENTS i cover start as probably somebody you know

473
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,039
swerve into their lane or thinks they're supposed to be

474
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:33,759
ahead of somebody, else or and next thing you, know

475
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:35,200
you's got another defensive gun USE.

476
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,839
Speaker 3: INCIDENTA i am firmly of the belief that if you

477
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,880
regularly flip people off while you're, driving you have a

478
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:47,559
serious problem that you need to get under control and

479
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:49,519
you probably don't need to be carrying a.

480
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 11: Gun you probably got some angry, issues, YEP i would.

481
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 12: Assume.

482
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: Yep all, right tell people ABOUT usa carry and what you.

483
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 12: Do, yeah, Well i've been around since two thousand and.

484
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,599
Speaker 11: Seven we came out WITH Usa carry concealed carry reciprocity,

485
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:05,279
maps so you can see what states here you can

486
00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:08,279
carry them when you're. Traveling lately we cover a lot

487
00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:11,759
of defensive gun use incidents and firearm news and putting

488
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:12,200
out video.

489
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 12: Content an app.

490
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 11: Called the Armors, app so it's a firearm, logging maintenance,

491
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:20,200
tracking am account app for your.

492
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,279
Speaker 12: Guns something new were working.

493
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 3: On and then one of the things you, do you

494
00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:26,920
got the whole flying with guns, then because you do

495
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,160
a lot of community on the, airlines and you, know

496
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,240
while on the one, hand flying commercially with guns should

497
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,200
be easy and often is, easy there are a lot

498
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,480
of nuances to, it are there?

499
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 12: Not, yeah every airline could be.

500
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 11: Different i'm usually flying once a week Between Las Vegas

501
00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:48,960
airport And New, orleans SO i don't see a lot

502
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,200
of different airports too, much BUT i have seen some

503
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,480
over this the past couple of months going To Salt.

504
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:58,079
Lake every place has different, policies whether you're bringing it

505
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,400
TO tfa or they're bringing, it or do you have

506
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,680
to wait fifteen minutes or.

507
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 12: Not So, yeah it just all depends for.

508
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 4: Somebody that hasn't done it.

509
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: Before people get nervous and, say, oh, gum you Know

510
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,279
i'm going to travel with. Guns i'm gonna fly with.

511
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,880
Guns what instruction or information do you?

512
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 11: Offer SO i usually just start with saying when you walk,

513
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,279
up tell them you're declaring.

514
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 12: Firearms it's the right. Terminology it kind of tells them

515
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:23,680
you know what you're.

516
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 11: Doing and one of the biggest tips people thanking for

517
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,640
on my videos are getting a free setex packing slip

518
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,039
and putting that on your hard side of case to.

519
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 12: Where you can just put the declaration form on.

520
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,039
Speaker 11: The inside of that instead of them pulling out packing

521
00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:39,920
tape and taping it.

522
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 12: Around oh, interesting.

523
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 11: Sir, YEAH i stole that from somebody years, ago and

524
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,920
that's my number one.

525
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:48,839
Speaker 4: Thing that's the stick clear plastic.

526
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 11: Pouts, yeah can make the transparents just stick the declaration

527
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:55,400
card right in, there right and usually they thank you

528
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:55,960
for helping them.

529
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 12: Out that's.

530
00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:59,319
Speaker 3: Terrific, Yeah and the main thing is to know the

531
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,599
rules the airlines have the information on their websites about

532
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,559
traveling with. GUNS tsa has the information. There if you

533
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,000
follow the, rules and if you are, pleasant you, know

534
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,079
and not, confrontational even if they say something you're thinking

535
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,400
that's not, right if it's not a big, deal just

536
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,400
go with the flow and.

537
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,079
Speaker 4: Let it happen.

538
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 12: Exactly it usually goes. SMOOTHLY i try not to be

539
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:24,440
argumentative when it.

540
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 11: Happens i've got it on video a few times WHERE

541
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,839
i was arguing with them AND i had the one

542
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:31,960
that letting them see inside my case for no, reason

543
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,440
SO i didn't win in the. End the manager didn't

544
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,640
want to see their guidelines WHEN i was showing them to.

545
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,079
Speaker 12: Her nobody wants to be, wrong so.

546
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:42,359
Speaker 11: And you either you, know you could either want to

547
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:43,039
be right or.

548
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,279
Speaker 12: You can miss your flight or right.

549
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: Now, yeah because they do have the ability to say

550
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,799
you're not flying right.

551
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,559
Speaker 12: Now, yeah.

552
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: Exactly so there it is all, Right, well, OKAY i appreciate.

553
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,559
It and, LOOK i just saw the. STORY i thought

554
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:57,039
we got to get you on to talk about. This

555
00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:59,880
it's another opportunity to say you need to change your,

556
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,279
attitude you need to be like mister meek and mister

557
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,079
mild and not take the, bait and certainly not be

558
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,359
the one who's flipping people off and honking your, horn

559
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,079
because you're going to spark the road.

560
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,559
Speaker 4: Rage and while you Think.

561
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,559
Speaker 3: I'm going to show them by you, know showing them

562
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:18,240
That i'm, mad they may show you by shooting you

563
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:18,680
between the.

564
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,119
Speaker 4: Eyes.

565
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:21,279
Speaker 11: Yeah they might be a little bit crazier than.

566
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 12: You so there's.

567
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,359
Speaker 5: That.

568
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah AND i always, say you never know what has

569
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,799
happened in that person's, life and you're catching them at

570
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:31,119
the perfect wrong, time and they're going to take it

571
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,640
out on. You look McCoy FROM usa, CARRY i appreciate.

572
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 12: It, Sir thanks for having me on.

573
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:41,799
Speaker 4: Good information. There just look at this crazy.

574
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,279
Speaker 3: Story two people get into an argument over their place

575
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:49,680
and line at them anymore ends up being. Shooting you

576
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,279
don't know who that person as he bumps into, you he, says,

577
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:55,920
hey what are you? Doing and you respond in some

578
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:57,880
of kind and all of a sudden you're off with the. Racist,

579
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:04,640
really the problem, IS i think if you haven't thought

580
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,720
about it ahead of, time if you haven't planned your,

581
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,519
reaction you who knows what you're gonna. Happen you don't

582
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:14,440
know how you're gonna. React if you have rehearsed it

583
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,160
sitting in your big easy chair at. Home if this,

584
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,559
HAPPENS i will do, this and you've gone over there

585
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,480
a few, times that is how you. React you, go,

586
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,359
Oh i'm, sure, sorry, here you go, Ahead i'm not

587
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,720
in a, Hurry go, ahead big. Deal if the person

588
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:39,319
insists on you're puffing, up back, away turn, around simply

589
00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:43,240
walk away if at all. POSSIBLE i, mean, LOOK i get.

590
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:45,640
It there could be a scenario where you just. Can't

591
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,240
guy's not gonna let. You but try to find a

592
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,720
way out of, it for one, thing and this gets

593
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,359
you into a whole different. Place if it turns out

594
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,359
to be, that you've got to end up using yourself defense.

595
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,960
Firearm if other people have seen you trying to disengage

596
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,640
and de escalate along the, way they will be able

597
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,400
to tell the police officers, that, oh, yeah this guy

598
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:13,079
was just going at, him and this is this other

599
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:15,519
fella talk about. You he was trying to get out

600
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:17,799
of and he's, apologized he was backing, up he said

601
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,279
you go, ahead you, know and then this guy just

602
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:25,640
wouldn't let. Him, well you are building a force of

603
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,359
support for. Yourself so this one is interesting story in

604
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:35,319
of all. Places The New York times title of it

605
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:41,519
is shooting ranges go, quiet luxury and, LOOK i get.

606
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:43,680
It you're you're gonna, say, well we already knew, That

607
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,720
yes we, did but they just discovered. It they're talking

608
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,960
about shooting ranges that are, upscale what we have called country,

609
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:57,920
clubs and they're talking about one In Los. Angeles it's

610
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,799
called The. Range it's membership only gun. Club IT'S i,

611
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:06,880
mean it's, fancy really, nice and people come. In they

612
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,920
can bring their own, guns they can rent, guns their.

613
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,799
Instructors it's, plush and memberships can run thirty five hundred

614
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:14,680
to fifty five.

615
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: Hundred dollars a. Year what is interesting about?

616
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: This and let me back up to my, knowledge the

617
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,400
first country club like this was The Scottsdale Gun club In, Scottsdale.

618
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,759
Arizona it was and is a really top right. One

619
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:35,359
The Centennial Gun club In denver is really. Good there

620
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,559
are a number of them, around AND i get.

621
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: It some people are, saying, really thirty five hundred dollars

622
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,799
a year to go to a shooting. RANGE i get.

623
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,039
Speaker 3: It you've been going to a gravel pit with a

624
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:52,440
burn barrel and it doesn't cost you. Anything and you

625
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:58,119
can't imagine doing. That and yet there is an entire

626
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,200
group of, people a. Demographic they can't imagine going to

627
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640
a gravel pit for a. Barnborough they're not going to do.

628
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,039
That they're used to going to a golf country club

629
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:11,200
and paying five thousand dollars ten thousand dollars a year

630
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,720
for the membership and don't think anything about. It and, you,

631
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:19,440
YEAH i hear you, saying, well that's not. Me, OKAY

632
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,440
i got to understand. It but understand this when it

633
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:27,240
comes to changing public. Perception how many times have you

634
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,160
heard me talk about? This when it comes to changing public,

635
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,799
Perception the people who go to a guntry club who

636
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:39,440
can spend that kind of, money have. Influence they're having

637
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:43,559
lunch with the, mayor they're having lunch with the. Governor

638
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:49,200
these are people who are working in a different world

639
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,319
and look not to priests, prejudge but that may be

640
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,599
you what this really. Is we talk about this concept

641
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,480
of The overton, window and that is The overton window

642
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:08,920
is things that are actionable that the public will. Accept,

643
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,440
well there was a time when maybe shooting wasn't something

644
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,960
that the public was generally going to. Accept when you

645
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:19,360
have people going to a country club and they have

646
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,760
memberships that call it five thousand dollars a, year and

647
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,760
they are sold out and there's a waiting, list and

648
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:31,800
they have babysitting services at the shooting. Range and here's

649
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,960
the place where people. GO i had a young couple, say,

650
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,719
yeah we went there on our first. Date it becomes

651
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,639
a place where young people want to go to take

652
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:46,400
somebody on their first. Date or that's where he proposed to.

653
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:54,119
Me you're changing what the public perceives and what the

654
00:34:54,159 --> 00:35:00,840
public accepts and what becomes. Normalized that this is an

655
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:07,679
article in The New York. Times it's just one more tick,

656
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,639
mark one more data point in the changing landscape and

657
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:17,239
the broad based acceptance of, shooting of gun, ownership of

658
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,119
the shooting, sports and of self protection with guns across

659
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:23,960
the board that people are doing all across the. Country

660
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:27,639
people are accepting it and understanding. It you, know if

661
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:29,280
you want to weigh in on, this by all, means

662
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,440
give me a holler phone. Number here Is Tom talk

663
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:38,039
gun when you and, LOOK i get. IT a lot

664
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:40,440
of us grew up going to a gravel. PIT i certainly.

665
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,320
Did have you been to one of these? Places have

666
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,840
you been to one of these upscale shooting ranges where

667
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,079
you walk in you go. WOW i remember going to

668
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:55,880
one In. FLORIDA i can't remember where it, was but

669
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,360
this was fifteen years. AGO i walked in and, said,

670
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,559
man this looks like An apple. Store it was fancy

671
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:06,960
and nice with computer targets and you could shoot targets

672
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,880
and electronically scored and set up there where you could

673
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,360
actually send it from the shooting. Station from the booth

674
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,559
where you're, shooting you could send the image of your

675
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:21,360
targets to somebody through social. Media set up that, way,

676
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,679
well they are appealing not only to a different group of,

677
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:27,679
people but to a wider group of, people bringing more

678
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:34,599
people into this shooting sports. Life To coiner, phrase since

679
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,239
that's the name of our NEW tv, Network shooting Sports,

680
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,679
life it's a, lifestyle or the tagline for our new

681
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:43,679
channel is where freedom is a.

682
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: Lifestyle and it is you think about the.

683
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: Shooting part of it is about. Freedom it's about protecting.

684
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,599
Yourself it's about AND i sometimes will mock the idea

685
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,519
of people want to feel safe as opposed to being.

686
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:03,880
Safe you know, what if they feel safe because they

687
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,679
are in fact, safe because they have taken steps to protect.

688
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,639
Themselves they're taking charge of their own, Safety they're not

689
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,159
outsourcing their. Safety those are people now who will turn

690
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:15,840
around and tell other, people you, know you ought to

691
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,679
come out to the shooting range with, me come on out.

692
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 4: Here different group of. People that's good because we have

693
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,239
the core.

694
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: Group the more people we bring into the shooting, sports

695
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,639
the more people we bring into the world of gun.

696
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: Ownership AND i get. It not everybody is.

697
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: Going to become a Staunt Second amendment, advocate but they

698
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,519
also are not going to be talking about those, people

699
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,840
which is us because they become those.

700
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 4: People and even if you got half of.

701
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: Them to Become Second amendment supporters where they weren't, before that's.

702
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 4: Big broadening the.

703
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: Appeal making it easy for people to get involved in

704
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,840
this is. Important it is part of our. Activism are

705
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,800
one on one. Activism it doesn't have to be at

706
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,079
a country. Club it can be wherever you. Go it

707
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:13,679
can be just inviting a friend to. Go you, know

708
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,000
WHAT i have found is that so often WHEN i

709
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:20,320
mentioned THAT i like to shoot or like to go

710
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,480
to the, RANGE i get a positive reaction for. People

711
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,639
PEOPLE i don't. Know it could be your, doctor your

712
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:31,159
dentist or. Whatever and if you, will if it's comfortable for,

713
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,639
you can follow that up with. Me would you like

714
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:36,800
to go to the range with me? Sometime you'd be.

715
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,960
AMAZED a survey THAT nssf did said that half the

716
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:43,639
women surveyed said that if they were invited to go,

717
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,880
shooting they would. Go imagine, that not people at, range

718
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,519
people just generally, speaking people who are, posed women who

719
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:55,519
are polled said that if someone invited them to go,

720
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:59,800
shooting they would. Go why are we not inviting? Them

721
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,159
because once we get them, there they're gonna have. Fun

722
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,280
we're gonna make sure they have. Fun were to give

723
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,960
them the right, Gun we're gonna have them shoot close.

724
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:09,159
Up we're gonna ensure that they have, success and they're

725
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:11,159
gonna come away get. Thinking, man that was. GREAT i

726
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,159
like to do that. Again you know WHAT i call?

727
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:28,199
Speaker 4: THAT i call that. Winning, well it's that time of year.

728
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,719
Again something. Else it's.

729
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,039
Speaker 3: Summertime it's hot and a lot of parts of the

730
00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:37,760
country entry really really. Hot had a buddy down In Lake, Hasty.

731
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,920
Arizona he sent me a note yesterday, says, yeah it's

732
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,840
one hundred and thirteen here at the. Moment what one

733
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,079
hundred and. Thirteen how do you do? That, well let's

734
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:51,679
talk about shooting when it's that, hot going to the.

735
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,400
Range first of, all get up really really really, early

736
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,920
and go early. Early try to be down by ten

737
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,360
eleven o'clock if you can. Hydrate of, course electrolytes are

738
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,719
key in. This just pure water is not. Enough, actually

739
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:09,239
too much water can kill. YOU i didn't know if

740
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,719
you know, that you gotta have some electrolytes in, there

741
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,719
whether you're mixing in with your water or maybe like

742
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,000
doing A gator eight every.

743
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 5: Third bottle of.

744
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 3: Water my deal has always been when we've got OUR

745
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,800
tv crews, out all the camper guys, out and everybody's,

746
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,679
hot we got. Water here's our simple. Rule when you

747
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:28,840
take a water bottle out of the, cooler you take

748
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,360
the top, off you throw away the, top you can't

749
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,760
put it back. On you take the top, off you

750
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,840
drink it all. Period just drink. It you got, it

751
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,320
and then within an hour you gotta do it. Again

752
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:40,960
so what about your?

753
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 4: Guns, yeah two.

754
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,599
Speaker 3: Things one is if they're sitting out in the, sun

755
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,719
like AN ar fifteen or. Something you may have experienced.

756
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,159
This they can get so hot sitting out there that

757
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:59,920
you can't pick them up black gun in the, sun

758
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,440
you might want to take a, towel like a white.

759
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,960
Towel i've done this and draped it over the guns

760
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,960
when they're laying on a. Table it actually works really

761
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,199
well keep them cool. Down, SO i, mean it depends

762
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,960
on your, range what the setup is and all. THAT

763
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,840
i get, That but just in terms of being aware

764
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,480
of the fact that everything can get really. Hot, actually

765
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:21,159
when you got a round, chambered the gun could be

766
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:25,039
so hot you can end up with excess pressure because

767
00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:28,320
everything is hotter in. There one other, thing when you're

768
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,159
shooting your, handgun if you're doing, manipulations you're, drawing you're

769
00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:32,800
shooting and that kind of, thing and it's hot and

770
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,719
you're outside and you're, sweating there is the very real

771
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,800
possibility of dropping your. Gun you draw your gun out

772
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,920
of your holster and as it's coming, out you fumble,

773
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,960
it it slips in your. Hand you got sweaty. Hands

774
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,400
and this you have to have put into your head

775
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,480
before you get. There AND i, mean like really put

776
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:56,639
this into your. Head you do not try to catch

777
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:04,000
a falling. Gun let it hit, then let it hit the. Ground,

778
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:06,519
yeah but that's my five. THOUSAND i don't care what it.

779
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:11,639
COSTS i don't care if it's finally. ENGRAVED i don't

780
00:42:11,679 --> 00:42:15,079
care if it's got the best polish. EVER a gunsmith

781
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:20,800
can make those. Repairs there is a not insignificant chance

782
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:24,719
that when you try to catch a pistol that has

783
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,440
slipped out of your, hands a finger or a thumb

784
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,679
will go into the trigger guard and pull the, trigger

785
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,360
and you don't know which direction the muscle is. Pointed

786
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,559
the chance of it going off when it hits the

787
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:45,039
ground is exceedingly. Small most guns just simply don't go

788
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:47,719
off when you drop. THEM i, mean It's i'm not

789
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,159
gonna say it's some, impossible but it's so rare as

790
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,360
to be. Insignificant but when you try to catch a,

791
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,960
gun and, look here's the, THING i, understand it comes

792
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,920
out of your. Hands if what is your instinct you've

793
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,599
got to reach out there and grab it or hit the.

794
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:06,159
Ground you have to have put it in your head

795
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:08,480
ahead of time and think about. It if a gun

796
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,079
comes out of my, Hands i'm just gonna let it,

797
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:13,519
Go just let it. Go and we've done this over

798
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:15,679
and over again with blue. Guns you, know drop, them

799
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,199
have them flipped around try to grab, them AND i don't,

800
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,199
know two times out of, ten one time out of,

801
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,840
ten whatever it, is a thumb or a finger goes

802
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,880
into that trigger guard where it'd be on the, trigger

803
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,320
and the gun's pointed at the guy who's trying to catch.

804
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,000
It SO i just offered that as up your summer safety. Tip,

805
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:40,840
guns get, hot, hands get, sweaty be, aware take, breaks

806
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:45,719
because if you're tired and fatigued and heat, exhausted you're also.

807
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,320
Unsafe it may not be making good decisions. There you

808
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,360
go and keep an eye on your buddies out. There

809
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:52,280
if they start to.

810
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,679
Speaker 4: Look, bad get them cool down and get them into some.

811
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,119
Shade