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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Sasquatch theory. In this episode, I traveled

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<v Speaker 1>to the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma to speak with Cynthia

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<v Speaker 1>from Telequah. What began as strange out like sounds in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods would eventually turn into years of unexplained activity

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<v Speaker 1>around her secluded property. Cynthia describes rocks being thrown at

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<v Speaker 1>her near the chicken coop, mysterious foul odors, livestock disappearing

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<v Speaker 1>without a trace, and an unsettling feeling that something was

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<v Speaker 1>constantly watching her from the surrounding forest. The encounters became

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<v Speaker 1>even stranger when mysterious dirt mounds appeared inside her chicken coop,

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<v Speaker 1>carefully constructed with rocks and decorated with the feathers of

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<v Speaker 1>her missing chickens. None of the materials came from the

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<v Speaker 1>coop or the surrounding area, leaving Cynthia with more questions

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<v Speaker 1>than answers. She shares childhood experiences that looking back, may

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<v Speaker 1>have been connected to the same mystery wor these isolated incidents,

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<v Speaker 1>or has something been following her throughout her life. If

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<v Speaker 2>Some real evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>With all that being said, let's dive straight into Cynthia's

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<v Speaker 1>bigfour encounters from the state of Oklahoma. All right, Cynthia,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing good. I'm anxious to tell me a story

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe get some insight from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, Cynthia, If you would tell me a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about yourself, where you're from, and your experiences from

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning, please.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, I live in Tulsa now, but I've lived

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<v Speaker 3>since nineteen ninety five, except for going away for jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit down in Tataquah, Oklahoma, which is in

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<v Speaker 3>Cherokee County. That's our capital of our tribe. And I

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<v Speaker 3>lived on a property that used to be allotted land,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think the people lost it for taxes. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't my family land. It was someone else's that we

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<v Speaker 3>bought the land and housing out buildings in nineteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 3>and there were forty acres and it's up on a

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<v Speaker 3>hill in the woods and down around. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 3>a panoramic view of the cooks and hills, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>gullies and valleys and places that are hard to get to.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's very, very heavily wooded. And the house sits

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<v Speaker 3>on almost like a plateau of seven acres, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the thirty three acres are down and down and down.

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<v Speaker 3>I think some of it's in the floodplain. And there's

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<v Speaker 3>a cave on that property that they say pretty boy

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<v Speaker 3>Floyd used to hide in. I don't know if that's true,

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<v Speaker 3>but it could be. So that's where I came from,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's where I had these experiences, and I've been

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<v Speaker 3>very shy about sharing them. I shared them with a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of my kids when it happened, and a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of the older grandkids and grandkids of course, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>like ooh, and my kids are like mom. So I

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<v Speaker 3>just really haven't shared much. But I had some experiences,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't know very much about Bigfoot, so I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't I didn't know a whole lot. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>started watching that show Finding Bigfoot, and it explained some

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<v Speaker 3>things I had experienced. So in twenty fourteen, I got

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<v Speaker 3>divorced after forty two years of marriage, and I kept

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<v Speaker 3>the house and the seven acres so and like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>it was heavily wooded, and then it had a gully

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<v Speaker 3>underneath the seven acres and nobody was ever there. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's way out in the country. I have neighbors, nobody's

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<v Speaker 3>really close, but not far from my house is a

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<v Speaker 3>fence that connects to the neighbors, and there'll be the

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<v Speaker 3>experience I had over there. So the first thing I

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<v Speaker 3>remember was sounds that sounded like an owl. But I

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<v Speaker 3>was raised in the country and I know what a

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<v Speaker 3>real owl sounds like, and I knew it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>real owl. Hoots, and I would just blow it off.

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought it's just teenage boys wandering through the

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<v Speaker 3>woods having fun, hooting back and forth to one another.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I thought it was, because I didn't, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I didn't know much about bigfoot experiences. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know that that was part of it. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>that happened for a long time. And then the first

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<v Speaker 3>thing I remember was after the hooting, I was out

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<v Speaker 3>at my chicken coop. This coop was a big edifice.

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<v Speaker 3>It was almost a small barn, and it was pretty

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<v Speaker 3>far from the house and it was at the top

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<v Speaker 3>of where it almost falls down a gully, heavily wooded.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't even see the bottom of it for the trees.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, I was raising chickens and peacocks and guineas,

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<v Speaker 3>and we had, just before my husband and I divorced,

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<v Speaker 3>built this fantastic peacock room for you know, to keep

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<v Speaker 3>everybody safe at night from coyotes mostly, and so it

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<v Speaker 3>was a really really nice coop. And behind the coop,

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<v Speaker 3>which would be right before you go down that gully,

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<v Speaker 3>people would put you know, if a lawnchair died, you

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<v Speaker 3>just stick it back there, you know, we'll just deal

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<v Speaker 3>with it later. It wasn't trash trash, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>just things like that, like buckets and different things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And one day I was out at the coop and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, you know, I'm clean some of that up

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<v Speaker 3>and put some of it out for the trash man

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<v Speaker 3>to get. And so I went behind there and I

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<v Speaker 3>got kind of an armload and I was coming back

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<v Speaker 3>around and when I got to the side of the coop,

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<v Speaker 3>I was pelted with rocks. And they were rocks, they

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<v Speaker 3>weren't It wasn't gravel rocks, and it wasn't huge rocks

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<v Speaker 3>that would like knock you out, but maybe an inch

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<v Speaker 3>across that kind of thing, and not just one or two,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of rocks. That reminded me of something that

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<v Speaker 3>happened in my childhood. And if you'll remind me, i'll

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<v Speaker 3>get back to that. And I guess I knew enough

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<v Speaker 3>by then about bigfoot that I just figured that's what

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<v Speaker 3>it was. And there was some big foot down down

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<v Speaker 3>the hill and they didn't want me back there, and

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<v Speaker 3>it scared me, but it didn't devastate me. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like I got the message, fine, clean that up.

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<v Speaker 3>So not long after that, I took a vacation out

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<v Speaker 3>to the East Coast. I have a daughter that lives

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<v Speaker 3>out there, and I was gone a while and one

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<v Speaker 3>of my Cherokee cousins and her husband were going to

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<v Speaker 3>take care of my birds for me and come over

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<v Speaker 3>every day. And I always had like four or five dogs,

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<v Speaker 3>I had cats, you know, I always had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of animals. So when I got home, they came over,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I was going to pay them and

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<v Speaker 3>thank them, and her husband and I went out to

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<v Speaker 3>the coop to look at something and what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I asked him and said, how did everything go?

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<v Speaker 3>Because he would usually come over with her to help

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<v Speaker 3>at night, you know, and he said okay. I said okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he looked at me and he goes, but

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<v Speaker 3>I had something happened out here at the coop, and

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<v Speaker 3>I could tell he's kind of hesitating telling me. And

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<v Speaker 3>he said, when I was over on this side, because

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<v Speaker 3>we did have an extra cage over there that we

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<v Speaker 3>would keep certain birds in sometimes if you needed to

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<v Speaker 3>separate birds, we had made one. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>on still. It was a really really nice cage. Nothing

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<v Speaker 3>could get in it, and maybe I had something over

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<v Speaker 3>there at that time. I don't really remember, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>he had been on that side and he said something

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<v Speaker 3>started throwing rocks at me. And he looked at me, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't believe me, right, and I kind of nodded.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, it happened to me too. And so

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<v Speaker 3>we sat down under a tree and started talking. And

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<v Speaker 3>he had had a big foot encounter when he was

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<v Speaker 3>a teenager at a place called Silver Pumpkin Holler. He

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<v Speaker 3>was dating a girl that they were in high school,

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<v Speaker 3>and they went out to park and so he turned

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<v Speaker 3>his car off the dirt road. We have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of dirt roads out there, and one came right in

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<v Speaker 3>front of their car, looked at him and it was terrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>And his report to me was she was so terrified

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<v Speaker 3>she had mental problems after that never did recover. So

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<v Speaker 3>that sounded pretty scary. So yeah, I believed him because

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<v Speaker 3>I had begun to send some presences on my property.

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<v Speaker 3>I never saw one, thank god, because I lived by myself.

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<v Speaker 3>But so I told him what had been happening the hoots,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I had been feeling a presence at the

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<v Speaker 3>back of my backyard. My backyard was fenced in and

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<v Speaker 3>I had a doggy door for dogs and cats to

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<v Speaker 3>go in and out, you know, and then the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the yard was open to all the acreage, the

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<v Speaker 3>front yard and side yards and everything. But I have

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<v Speaker 3>felt a presence at the back of that backyard, and

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<v Speaker 3>nothing I can really prove, but I felt it, and

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<v Speaker 3>it did not scare me. And again, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>much about bigfoot. I didn't know if they were all

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<v Speaker 3>bad all good. I just knew they were I'd heard

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<v Speaker 3>enough people by this time talking that I trusted that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there's something out there, some kind of ape or something,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a weird feeling. I did not feel scared.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost felt watched over because I'm by myself now,

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<v Speaker 3>right some nights when I'm headed back from the chicken coop,

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<v Speaker 3>because I would chuck them in every night, I'd say

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<v Speaker 3>good night, yeah, towards the backyard. I just going to

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<v Speaker 3>wave my hand. Thank god. I never did putting food

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<v Speaker 3>out or anything. So that happened for a long long

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<v Speaker 3>time after I became alone. And I love animals, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just at that time, I don't know, they might

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<v Speaker 3>be something else. I'm learning lots of things, but at

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<v Speaker 3>that time I thought it was just you know, primate

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<v Speaker 3>of some sort and good at hiding. And yeah, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel scared. I never did. And then that

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<v Speaker 3>went on for a long long time. And one night

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<v Speaker 3>I was coming back from the chicken coop and over

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<v Speaker 3>by my neighbor's fence. Now his house wasn't there, but

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<v Speaker 3>that was his property fence, not very far. I had

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<v Speaker 3>a garage. It was a garage workshop. You could put

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<v Speaker 3>three or four cars in there. The guy we bought

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<v Speaker 3>it from was a builder. He had this most fantastic

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<v Speaker 3>workshop in there. So that wasn't far from this fence.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was coming to the house and this odor

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<v Speaker 3>just overwhelmed me. I had never smelled anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, I'm a country girl. I know

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<v Speaker 3>what dead animals smell like. This was not just your

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<v Speaker 3>regular dead animal that died that you need to go

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<v Speaker 3>clean up or something. It was horrible. I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know to this day what I was smelling,

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<v Speaker 3>except having learned about bigfoot, I thought, okay, there's one

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<v Speaker 3>right there, and I felt it and I felt scared.

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<v Speaker 3>This time. It did not feel good. It was dark

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<v Speaker 3>over there. Oh. I I probably had my porch light on,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can't see that far to that fence with

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<v Speaker 3>have been a dead animal, that odor still would have

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<v Speaker 3>been there because it was so strong. I'd never before

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<v Speaker 3>since smelled anything like that. I was horrid. Later, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>watching I started watching Bigfoot, Finding Bigfoot. Yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 3>hear them talk about stuff like that, so I figured

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<v Speaker 3>it was one, but I didn't feel like it was

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<v Speaker 3>someone that had been my backyard watcher, guardian, whatever, And

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<v Speaker 3>then a couple of other things one one year. It

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<v Speaker 3>was probably a couple of years after I was divorced alone.

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<v Speaker 3>My best guy friend from junior High had a friend

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<v Speaker 3>who had a trailer who was kind of traveling through

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<v Speaker 3>and wanted to park it, you know, at my place,

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<v Speaker 3>and I needed some carpentry work done on my porch

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<v Speaker 3>sure you can park there, because I trusted him, because

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<v Speaker 3>I trusted my friend. And he used to drink, stopped drinking,

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<v Speaker 3>but then he started evidently drinking again, and he came

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<v Speaker 3>out one night with these pistols that my friend had

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<v Speaker 3>given him and start shooting him up in the air,

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<v Speaker 3>which is illegal. I can't do that, but he did it,

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<v Speaker 3>and ever since those pistols went off, I never since

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<v Speaker 3>the presence behind my fence again ever. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>next thing, I'm gonna tell you, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>It's scary. I'm almost crying telling you this. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the scariest part for me personally, and I want to

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<v Speaker 3>know if anybody else's experienced this. I kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>need somebody somewhere to tell me that this happened, that

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<v Speaker 3>they've seen this. So this happened back out at my

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<v Speaker 3>chicken coop. The first thing, Now, this is not scary,

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<v Speaker 3>but I had gone back to work, and I knew

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<v Speaker 3>all my chickens and guineas really well because I hand

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<v Speaker 3>raise them in the house before they get too stinky,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I put them out, so I know them all.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all named, and my chickens were an assortment different

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<v Speaker 3>different breaths, so I began to notice everyone so all

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<v Speaker 3>that one would be missing. This would be in the

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<v Speaker 3>daytime when I would come home in the afternoon. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I started putting it together that it was happening

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<v Speaker 3>on Fridays. That every Friday, one chicken was missing. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is not the scary part. And I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe somebody lives around here that's super poor and they

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<v Speaker 3>just needed to feed their family for the weekend. At

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<v Speaker 3>least they just take one, you know. And I still

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what was taking it. But after a while

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<v Speaker 3>I had no more chickens, so my peacock, the others

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<v Speaker 3>were gone except for one peacock and he was my

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<v Speaker 3>personal buddy, and he slept outside my door in an

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<v Speaker 3>old tree, o hickory tree, and he would not go

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<v Speaker 3>in the coop anymore. He stopped going in the coop.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't get him in there, and he would stay

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<v Speaker 3>in his tree even when it snowed. So the coop

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<v Speaker 3>and guineas travel. They you don't keep guineas for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time, you know, maybe you're lucky to keep them

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<v Speaker 3>for two years, because they just wonder. They're very wondering.

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<v Speaker 3>And so my guineas were all gone, my chickens were

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<v Speaker 3>all gone. My peacock's in the tree, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>really using my chicken coop. And to tell you the truth,

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<v Speaker 3>the rock pelting was kind of scary to me. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, well, I have a coop in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>I could get some bannies and enjoy them back there,

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<v Speaker 3>because I was working and it gets icy sometimes in

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<v Speaker 3>the winter, and I don't need to get out there

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<v Speaker 3>in the ice. It's a long ways to walk, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I just kind of let that coop go. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was out there one day. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to go clean or I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what I went out there for, because there were no

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<v Speaker 3>birds out there, but I went out there to go inside.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I went inside, this is the scary part

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<v Speaker 3>for me, and it probably won't sound scary to anybody else,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was so scary. There had been some crafting

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<v Speaker 3>going on in there, and it was done in the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest room, which was the peacock room, and something had

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<v Speaker 3>built this mound. There's two mounds. There was a big

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<v Speaker 3>one and one that was maybe half that size, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even smaller than that. And I would say this mound

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<v Speaker 3>was a couple of feet high. It was, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it was very very noticeable, maybe a couple of feet wide.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it would be kind of round at the bottom,

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<v Speaker 3>and it tapered up to kind of a small thing

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<v Speaker 3>at the top, and what it was made out of

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<v Speaker 3>was it was made Now, remember I worked, so I

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<v Speaker 3>was gone in the days and this was daytime, And

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<v Speaker 3>so they had used dirt and rocks, kind of small rocks,

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<v Speaker 3>a few big rocks, maybe fist sized rocks would be

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest. And they had mixed the rocks and the

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<v Speaker 3>dirt together to make these mounds. But that's not even

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<v Speaker 3>the scariest part. First of all, that none of these

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<v Speaker 3>materials came from inside the you could cook. There were

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<v Speaker 3>no holes, dug. I don't keep rocks in there. So whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, however they got that stuff in, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But they picked up feathers in my chicken coop. They

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<v Speaker 3>used chicken feathers and guinea feathers because they were still

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<v Speaker 3>kind of laying around back in the guinea chicken area,

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<v Speaker 3>and had poked them in these mounds on the side,

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<v Speaker 3>decorated at the top, decorated mounds in my chicken coop. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I have no children that live around my neighborhood. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't really have neighborhoods in the country. There's no explanation

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<v Speaker 3>for it. And I will just tell you it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>scaring me to tell you this for real. It was

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<v Speaker 3>so scary. I felt so invaded. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it was a message. I don't know, if they

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<v Speaker 3>were just having fun, whatever was happening. Maybe it was

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<v Speaker 3>an homage to all my chickens being gone. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I went back to the house and like, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, I need a picture, and I grabbed my

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<v Speaker 3>iPad many because it took pretty good pictures. My phone

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<v Speaker 3>at that time was kind of a cheaper one, and

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<v Speaker 3>I went out and I took pictures and I thought

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<v Speaker 3>I got pictures, and when you look at them, they're

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<v Speaker 3>all blurred. I can't I really can't prove it to anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>So I haven't really told anybody that part of the

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<v Speaker 3>story because it's so scary. So if you know of

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else that's had moundwork done in there, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>their property, I'd kind of like to know what's that

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<v Speaker 3>all about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that definitely is terrifying, and I can see why

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<v Speaker 1>it startled you. Maybe the Sasquatch are connected to the

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<v Speaker 1>ancient mound builders.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that's probably yeah. I mean, the more

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<v Speaker 3>I'm learning about different things that we never thought about.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's very possible. And there was something about

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<v Speaker 3>the shape that alarmed me. It was too perfect, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. It didn't and it did not

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<v Speaker 3>look like a child could do it. I have eight grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think any of my grandchildren could build anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that. It was I don't know, it's kind of perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, do you hear of anybody else that had

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<v Speaker 3>that happen? I kind of like to have people's thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>on them. So when I was a kid, I lived

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<v Speaker 3>down in Sulfur, Oklahoma, which is central Oklahoma, and we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really have a whole lot of woods. We had some,

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<v Speaker 3>We had forty acres, but my dad was a doctor

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<v Speaker 3>and so we weren't like a farm. But he liked farming,

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<v Speaker 3>so he would bail hay. We raised a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>them calves, you know, we had five horses. We didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have any birds, but we had a great barn. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's when you bail haden. It would be those rectangles,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and you stack them up in your barn

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<v Speaker 3>and you they're fun because you can kind of stack

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<v Speaker 3>them up and go sit on them. And I miss

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<v Speaker 3>those kind of hay bales. So I was out there

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<v Speaker 3>one day. It was in the daytime, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what I was doing, just some chore, and my

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<v Speaker 3>back was to the hay bales and I was getting

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<v Speaker 3>ready to go out the front barn door, the big

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<v Speaker 3>barn door, and something started hitting my back, and not

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<v Speaker 3>just one or two things, lots of stuff. There was

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<v Speaker 3>nobody out there but me, and I glanced around and

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<v Speaker 3>looked behind me, and it was corn kernels, like you

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<v Speaker 3>feed your horses, a lot of them. So something was

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<v Speaker 3>throwing something at me. So I went to get my daddy.

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<v Speaker 3>It must have been on the weekend because Daddy was home,

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<v Speaker 3>and I went to get him and he went out

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<v Speaker 3>with the rifle and didn't find anything. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>other strange thing that happened to me that same house,

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<v Speaker 3>same country house. It was a long ranch house, and

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<v Speaker 3>we had a lot of kids. They ended up having

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<v Speaker 3>seven kids, my parents and my bedroom was all the

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<v Speaker 3>way at one end where the kitchen the dining room,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was a living room, and there was a hallway.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody else's bedrooms are way down on the other side

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<v Speaker 3>of the house. Excuse me, I have to cough hold on, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So My bed was near the outside of the house,

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<v Speaker 3>which was actually that end of the house face to

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<v Speaker 3>the barn. And one night I kept hearing our middle

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<v Speaker 3>our little red wagon they used to call them, being

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<v Speaker 3>pulled around out there. All right, well, there's first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>there's nobody. We don't have a neighborhood because we're in

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<v Speaker 3>the country, so that what's happening. It was like in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the night, like past midnight, and it

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<v Speaker 3>kept happening, and then it stopped. And I'm about to

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<v Speaker 3>go back to sleep, and I hear this breathing and

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<v Speaker 3>I hear something. I feel something that has sat down

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<v Speaker 3>on the wall outside, and it's pretty close to my bed,

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<v Speaker 3>and you could hear it like bump up against the wall,

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<v Speaker 3>like you would lean back, and I would hear this

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<v Speaker 3>heavy breathing, almost like it was hard for this person,

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<v Speaker 3>which I thought it was a person to breathe, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought maybe it was I don't know, some wonderers,

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<v Speaker 3>some homeless man. I don't know. But this scared the

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<v Speaker 3>pea waddy out of me. So I got up and

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<v Speaker 3>I ran down the hall all all the way down

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<v Speaker 3>to the end of the house. And my parents had

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<v Speaker 3>added another bedroom for themselves down at the other end.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a really long thing, and I woke my

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<v Speaker 3>parents up, and Daddy again, he gets up and he

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<v Speaker 3>gets his rifle and he comes out. He couldn't find anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>He was sweet to look but and he didn't shame

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<v Speaker 3>me or anything. He just said, I looked and looked,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't find anybody, and he took his flashlight stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've often wondered since I found out a big photo,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that was, you know, an experience with one or

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<v Speaker 3>two or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it possibly could be.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like it maybe could have been paranormal

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<v Speaker 1>activity out there, like spirits of people that used to

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<v Speaker 1>live out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it could be. We know that we knew

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<v Speaker 3>the people who built the house and they were still alive,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't rule

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<v Speaker 3>out anything. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that definitely possibly could have been the Sasquatch or

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<v Speaker 1>even settlers who used to live in Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, you know, there's all kinds of things

417
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:45.240
<v Speaker 3>that occur, so yeah, probably probably won't ever know, but

418
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:49.119
<v Speaker 3>but those were a couple of scary things. I can

419
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.240
<v Speaker 3>just remember my dad running out there with it's gun.

420
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anything else you can recall.

421
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 3>Uh. The only other odd thing that happened to me

422
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 3>in the woods was in my grandmother's woods and she lived.

423
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 3>That was my favorite place on earth. She lived down

424
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:15.480
<v Speaker 3>in southeastern Oklahoma, past Antler's pastor at Tan, the little

425
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:19.720
<v Speaker 3>community called Correen just before you get to Olita. So

426
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.519
<v Speaker 3>if your listeners are from that area, then I know

427
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 3>exactly what I'm talking about. There's not they're not even

428
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:31.160
<v Speaker 3>a post office there anymore, though. But her neighbor's pasture

429
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:34.960
<v Speaker 3>was someplace that my friend and I went and we

430
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 3>were gonna wade the creek from there, part of the

431
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:42.880
<v Speaker 3>creek all the way to my grandmother's pasture to her creek.

432
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 3>That was just start things. So we were standing in

433
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:53.480
<v Speaker 3>those little stand I guess you'd call them of trees,

434
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 3>and I think we were looking at what we brought

435
00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:01.640
<v Speaker 3>for lunch. We were about maybe eleven, maybe twelve, and

436
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:06.519
<v Speaker 3>we were barefoot, and we were just standing there. This

437
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have anything to do with bigfoot. I didn't have

438
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 3>any of those kinds of things. But this is daylight.

439
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:19.000
<v Speaker 3>This is like maybe after lunch, I don't know. And

440
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 3>this pack of wolves, I don't know if they were

441
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 3>real I don't know if they were real wolves or

442
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 3>something else. Came trotting past us. It's almost like you

443
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 3>could reach out and touch them. This isn't the daytime.

444
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Wolves are nighttime animals, right, And they were standing very

445
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.240
<v Speaker 3>close to one another, just kind of trotting together. They

446
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 3>weren't coyotes, because I knew what coyotes were. They were wolves.

447
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:46.240
<v Speaker 3>And they didn't even pay us any attention. It was

448
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.559
<v Speaker 3>like we weren't even there and they just went past us.

449
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 3>And I can't get that out of my head. That

450
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>was the weirdest thing. And we're just like looking at

451
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 3>each other like what did we just see? Yeah, so

452
00:29:58.880 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 3>that's it.

453
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very interesting. And what other bigfoot encounters and experiences

454
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>have you heard from friends or locals in the area.

455
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh, in the Tahlequah area, I haven't heard a whole lot,

456
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 3>but I know they have. I think it's once a year.

457
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 3>And I never did go to it over in Adare

458
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:27.720
<v Speaker 3>County stillwell, because there's a lot that's happened over there,

459
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:31.720
<v Speaker 3>and they they have a gathering, but I never did go.

460
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:35.720
<v Speaker 3>If I had actually seen one with my eye, I

461
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:41.480
<v Speaker 3>probably would have gone, you know. And so the only

462
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.440
<v Speaker 3>one I know for sure is the one my cousin's

463
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:50.119
<v Speaker 3>husband told me about, because I haven't brought the subject up.

464
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's kind of embarrassing because sometimes people just

465
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 3>look at you like, yeah right.

466
00:30:58.759 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Speaker 2>So I guess I didn't.

467
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Really was embarrassing for even Native Americans to talk about

468
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess they've been silenced for so long. Even the

469
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Natives don't want to talk about it.

470
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm not in the traditional Native because I was

471
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 3>adopted out of the tribe. Yeah, and I only found

472
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 3>out that I was Cherokee when I was thirty seven,

473
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:26.599
<v Speaker 3>and as soon as I could, I was in Ohio.

474
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I moved to tah Quah and began to reconnect to

475
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 3>my roots, So I didn't grow up in a household

476
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 3>where they told those stories.

477
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So around is it still Well or still Water,

478
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>that that would be the area to connect with the natives,

479
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the Cherokee people, to possibly learn more about the.

480
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:52.319
<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a town called still Well and they

481
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:57.039
<v Speaker 3>advertised their their meeting, their annual or annually I'm not

482
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:01.880
<v Speaker 3>sure which they have, like a meeting over there. Anybody

483
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 3>can come and just share town meeting whatever. And that's

484
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Speaker 3>still Well and that's in a Dare County. It's not

485
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 3>far from Tahaquah. We're all I mean, my grandmother was

486
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 3>from there, so we're all connected. And then Kenwood is

487
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 3>where that the squirrels are from up in there.

488
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah, that would be the area to visit.

489
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Right around ken Wood. I feel like I could get

490
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of information about the Sasquatch.

491
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:44.279
<v Speaker 3>And my area was in the Welling area and it's

492
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 3>so wooded back in there, and I have heard I

493
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 3>can't tell you any stories because I don't know them,

494
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 3>but I have heard there's been a lot of spottings

495
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.119
<v Speaker 3>out there. But it makes sense because it's just it's

496
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 3>wild out there. We are out there where the hills

497
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 3>that are the Cooks and hills they're the foothoo hills

498
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 3>of those arcs, and we have the big Illinois River

499
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 3>and the Illinois River branches that run through there and

500
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 3>have lots of deer. There's lots of deer hunting, lots

501
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:17.359
<v Speaker 3>of deer, lots of squirrel, lots of monnies. It's a

502
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:25.039
<v Speaker 3>rich area for you know, supporting life. So yeah, but

503
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:27.759
<v Speaker 3>I can't direct. But when you talk to the people

504
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 3>in Stillwell, they'll probably have people you can talk to

505
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 3>from the welling area where I was from.

506
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be great.

507
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:38.759
<v Speaker 1>And after moving to the new property, when did the

508
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.839
<v Speaker 1>activity begin. Was it shortly after you built the chicken coop?

509
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:52.200
<v Speaker 3>No, it only began for now. The hooting probably began

510
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:59.599
<v Speaker 3>probably twenty thirteen. I believe it was happening before my divorce.

511
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 3>I moved there in nineteen ninety five, but when they

512
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 3>started was when I get divorced, which is twenty fourteen.

513
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:12.639
<v Speaker 3>When I was by myself and the property was when

514
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 3>something started happening. Does that make sense?

515
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does.

516
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So when you were isolated alone, the creature started interacting

517
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>with you.

518
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when I was alone.

519
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get that a lot with reports. I've had

520
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>women tell me that when their husbands would go to

521
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 1>work the activity would always start, or when they're alone

522
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:38.159
<v Speaker 1>in general.

523
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:43.639
<v Speaker 3>Gross. Well, I'm glad I wasn't terrified. That would have

524
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 3>been hard on. You know, you're getting over a divorce

525
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:50.079
<v Speaker 3>after forty two years of marriage and you're being terrified.

526
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 3>So I guess I should be grateful. I wasn't terrified

527
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:57.719
<v Speaker 3>until the found building, and that was a few years

528
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.880
<v Speaker 3>after the divorce. But I will tell you that my

529
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 3>love for my property damned after that, and now I

530
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 3>live in Tulsa, where some of my kids live, so

531
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't live down there anymore. And I missed my

532
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 3>woods and everything that I the mound building incident when

533
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't having anything else happen because I thought things.

534
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:31.159
<v Speaker 3>I think I thought everything was gone. You don't like

535
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 3>to be scared on your own property when you live

536
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 3>by yourself.

537
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it wasn't a pleasant feeling. It was more

538
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:39.199
<v Speaker 1>of a morbid feeling.

539
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

540
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>The Natives and Cherokee Nation sometimes described that as bad medicine,

541
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and you need to get cleansed by a medicine man

542
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to kind of make it go away. So yeah, No,

543
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I definitely understand where you're coming from, and that would

544
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.760
<v Speaker 1>be disturbing to find. I can't imagine how you felt

545
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>how many rocks.

546
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know why I felt that way, you

547
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:11.039
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, I really don't know. It must

548
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:13.800
<v Speaker 3>have been the intent, but it felt It made me

549
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 3>feel like, man, I thought I was free of all

550
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:21.760
<v Speaker 3>that and something still things they can come on my

551
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 3>property and you know, do something scary.

552
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't feel like they were gifting you and

553
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 1>thanking you for the chickens. I feel like they were

554
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 1>claiming your chicken coop as their own, like this is ours.

555
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 3>I do too. That other one that I said that

556
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.880
<v Speaker 3>was a joke. Yeah, I never felt that because it

557
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 3>made me feel bad. I think you would not make

558
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 3>you feel bad. This made me feel bad, and I

559
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.039
<v Speaker 3>did feel invaded, and I did. I did feel that

560
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 3>what you just said, Yeah, they were claiming it as

561
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 3>their owns, like we're still here, we can come in

562
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 3>here and do what we want. And so I never

563
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 3>did put anything back in that chicken coop. I didn't

564
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:05.559
<v Speaker 3>even like walking out there, and it kind of destroyed

565
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.679
<v Speaker 3>my love of walking in my woods. I had beautiful woods,

566
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:13.599
<v Speaker 3>had these huge this one part was a pine forest

567
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 3>and these pine trees were so old you couldn't put

568
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:19.159
<v Speaker 3>your arms around them. They had the big thick bark

569
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 3>and the and you know pine needle uh flooring. It

570
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:30.320
<v Speaker 3>was so beautiful and uh my grandkids lived it out,

571
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 3>loved it out there. We had a lot of fun

572
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 3>out there. One time I was out there, I didn't

573
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 3>let the grand kids go out there after after a while,

574
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.199
<v Speaker 3>after I saw this, except in this area right by

575
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:45.800
<v Speaker 3>my house, I'd let them go there, but I would

576
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 3>be with them. Because back two three acres back from

577
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 3>the house you can't see it from the house. There

578
00:37:54.400 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 3>had been some downed trees the long walk. Let's say,

579
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:04.639
<v Speaker 3>not that they'd been cut, but I guess they's just fallen,

580
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, not huge placed around like you would if

581
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.800
<v Speaker 3>you were going to sit in a circle or a

582
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.679
<v Speaker 3>rectangle or something have a meeting. It could have been

583
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:23.440
<v Speaker 3>humans doing that, but that's another thing that happened. But

584
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 3>that took my like, okay, well my kids, our grandkids

585
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 3>can't wander around back there.

586
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, did you ever find any tracks or any

587
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 1>rock piles left on your porch, anything strange like that.

588
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 3>No, And I never felt like anything came up to

589
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 3>the house. It's just a feeling, you know, but I

590
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 3>never felt it. I never saw anything. I never saw

591
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 3>anything odd.

592
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And what was your initial impression when you noticed

593
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 1>that birds were going missing every Friday? Did you think

594
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 1>it was just a fox or something then or did

595
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.199
<v Speaker 1>you know that it was.

596
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:07.639
<v Speaker 3>No, It's like I said, I thought, well, there are

597
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 3>some places down the dirt road where people don't have

598
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of money, you know, kind of poor, and

599
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:20.400
<v Speaker 3>so my first thoughts were somebody is just needing food

600
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.599
<v Speaker 3>for their family. And because there were no there was

601
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 3>no blood, there was no feathers, there was no sign

602
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 3>of a struggle, you know, and pretty early in the

603
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.119
<v Speaker 3>day for foxes to come around anyway, it's in the afternoon.

604
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 3>So now I thought for a long time it must

605
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:44.000
<v Speaker 3>be And I didn't realize that it was Friday until

606
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I really started thinking about it. I had to think

607
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:54.480
<v Speaker 3>back when it happened. You know, several chickens were like, oh, oh,

608
00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:58.360
<v Speaker 3>it's Friday's when I come home. So that's why I

609
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.719
<v Speaker 3>thought it was a person, you know, maybe to feed

610
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 3>their kids on the weekend or something.

611
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it definitely sounds like juvenile activity to me, since

612
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>they were throwing smaller racks rocks at you, and they

613
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>weren't trying to hit you with giant rocks, and they

614
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>weren't like doing terrifying vocalizations. I would say they were

615
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>focusing on the chicken house and maybe the mound was

616
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 1>their way of saying thank you. But also I understand

617
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.119
<v Speaker 1>where you're coming from, like they invade your private space

618
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 1>and it just doesn't look right.

619
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 3>No, there was something about it that and I am sensitive,

620
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:50.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm spiritually sensitive and I'm older, so I've experienced a

621
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 3>lot in life, and I'm pretty stable, you know. But

622
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.039
<v Speaker 3>that hit me. I don't even think I can describe

623
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.840
<v Speaker 3>it as to how it hit me. It terrified me.

624
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, something was still.

625
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Maybe something was maybe a presence was still in the coop.

626
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:12.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know what terrified me, but

627
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 3>it did.

628
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was the.

629
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.199
<v Speaker 3>Odor didn't terrify me, the thought that there. And I

630
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.280
<v Speaker 3>did think that that you you know, that you brought

631
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 3>up juveniles. I did think about the juveniles, especially at night.

632
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 3>I felt like whatever was back there was not huge,

633
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 3>and I can actually kind of see it in my

634
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.039
<v Speaker 3>in my mind, but I didn't see it with my eyes.

635
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:40.760
<v Speaker 3>I didn't. I didn't feel like it was one of

636
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:44.000
<v Speaker 3>those great, big towering whatever. Now, the one with the odor,

637
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that was. That was that was

638
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 3>a different whatever it was, whatever it was. So, yeah,

639
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 3>but I did think juveniles. I did.

640
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it could have been one of the parents around

641
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>in the area, not happy that their kids were playing

642
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 1>in your yard. Maybe maybe you got too close and

643
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it released that pheromone that smells like I don't know,

644
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it can smell like death or sulfur or trash.

645
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 3>It was everything. It was like all the stinky things

646
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:20.199
<v Speaker 3>you can think of, because I couldn't even pick out

647
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:24.440
<v Speaker 3>one thing, but it's it's yeah, it's interesting because it

648
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 3>wasn't that way. When I came out my door to

649
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.880
<v Speaker 3>go up to my coop. Everything was normal. And then

650
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.360
<v Speaker 3>when I came from the coop down to get back

651
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:37.000
<v Speaker 3>to the house, that's when it was. And it was overwhelming,

652
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:40.519
<v Speaker 3>and I knew exactly where it was. I knew, I

653
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:43.039
<v Speaker 3>knew I probably could have walked to it, but I

654
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:45.679
<v Speaker 3>wasn't going to And then I went in the house

655
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 3>and then later I came back out and no more,

656
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 3>no more odor.

657
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, very interesting. And your friend that had the

658
00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>sighting encounter, that was what this girlfriend what exactly were

659
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:02.840
<v Speaker 1>they doing when they had the encounter.

660
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.199
<v Speaker 3>They were parking, you know how you go on a

661
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 3>date and you park in the road to seeking smooch.

662
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I figured. And I've

663
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:15.639
<v Speaker 1>had reports in the past where people were doing that

664
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>or even more and sasquat shows up.

665
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:23.159
<v Speaker 3>And where they were is very very isolated, and it

666
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.039
<v Speaker 3>really if you ever travel in that area, you'll you'll

667
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.920
<v Speaker 3>be like whoa, where's the next house? Because there's there's

668
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:39.400
<v Speaker 3>some great woods and houses far and few and far between,

669
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 3>great dirt roads. You know, there's a lot out there

670
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.280
<v Speaker 3>in that part of the country, Cherokee County, in Adare County.

671
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, I hate hearing that.

672
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>It really messed with their psychologically, and she never recovered.

673
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.519
<v Speaker 3>That's what I heard. And it could be that she

674
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:03.039
<v Speaker 3>took her own life. Yeah, you know, she probably wasn't

675
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.039
<v Speaker 3>the type that could handle something like that. I mean,

676
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 3>some people do that and they're they're okay. I mean

677
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:13.760
<v Speaker 3>the guy was, but I mean it affected him. It was.

678
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty horrible.

679
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I can't imagine.

680
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Did he describe what this sasquatch creature look like?

681
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 3>He did? I'm not sure that I could recall it

682
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:31.519
<v Speaker 3>all to you. But it was big, and it was

683
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of brownish reddish hair. He knew what it was.

684
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.559
<v Speaker 3>I guess he'd heard a lot of stories. His family's from,

685
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:44.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, from there, I know all his family, huge family.

686
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:52.360
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, wow, And it was close to the vehicle, correct, Oh.

687
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Right in front of it, like I see you through

688
00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 3>the window.

689
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, that's terrifying.

690
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, and you know you think about it. There

691
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 3>were teenagers, so and I don't know if she was native.

692
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.559
<v Speaker 3>I know that he probably well, he obviously knew what

693
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 3>it was, so he had heard lots of nice stories,

694
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 3>you know traditional. Yeah. I didn't get to know my

695
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:30.079
<v Speaker 3>traditional people. My mother kept my ancestry from me and

696
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't let me meet my dad. And I did it

697
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:36.800
<v Speaker 3>anyway when I was thirty seven, and the first thing

698
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 3>he said to me is, did you know we're Cherokee?

699
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I said, no, sir, I don't know anything. He said,

700
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 3>we are, and I will help you get your you know,

701
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.199
<v Speaker 3>tribal membership and those and of your children, because I

702
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:56.599
<v Speaker 3>had three children. He was an attorney, but he was dying.

703
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:59.639
<v Speaker 3>He was in a hospital and I only saw him

704
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 3>for four hours. But his heritage was very important to him.

705
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:09.480
<v Speaker 3>And he was raised in Tahlequah, and my whole family

706
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:15.119
<v Speaker 3>history on that side was in Tahquah's Both his parents

707
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 3>were Cherokee. So yeah, so I moved there and I

708
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.639
<v Speaker 3>got to know lots of people that I'm kin to,

709
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 3>which is about half the town. But I had to

710
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:32.400
<v Speaker 3>put the puzzle pieces together, you know, after I was grown.

711
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and at first you believe this was simply an

712
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>unknown primate. Has your opinion changed over time?

713
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, I've been doing a law study that's out there

714
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:56.320
<v Speaker 3>about nepheline and different things like that. So I kind

715
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:59.639
<v Speaker 3>of tend to know to believe those kinds of theories

716
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 3>because they disappear, you know, and people take pictures of

717
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:09.719
<v Speaker 3>things that turn out weird, which happened to me because

718
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 3>I know I had those pictures. So yeah, it could

719
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:20.599
<v Speaker 3>be shape shifters. I know those are real and could

720
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 3>be portals that they disappear into. There's all kinds of

721
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:29.880
<v Speaker 3>things out there, so I'm still learning and I don't know.

722
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And is there anything about your experiences that we

723
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.440
<v Speaker 1>haven't covered that you think is important for people to

724
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:40.199
<v Speaker 1>hear or is that everything?

725
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 3>Well, from what I'm learning, I don't think any of

726
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.719
<v Speaker 3>them are very friendly. I wouldn't be friends with one.

727
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be saying good night to those in the

728
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:57.840
<v Speaker 3>back or that one in the back. Yeah, from what

729
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 3>I know now, But I didn't feel afraid, and I

730
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:04.199
<v Speaker 3>like animals, so you know that was where I was

731
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 3>at at that time.

732
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I completely.

733
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Understand that my chickens were investing either.

734
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I definitely believe you these creatures, these beings are

735
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:20.639
<v Speaker 1>certainly in Oklahoma. So yes, Cynthia, I appreciate you for

736
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 1>logging down your experiences on sasquatch theory, and if you

737
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>ever encounter anything else in the future, definitely reach out

738
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:27.599
<v Speaker 1>to me.

739
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I would love to hear about it.

740
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:32.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you very much. The only thing I wanted

741
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.800
<v Speaker 3>to share about that I wanted to feedback on was

742
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.320
<v Speaker 3>the mounds. I wanted to know if the if they're

743
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:42.280
<v Speaker 3>doing that other places, and if that particular shape has

744
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:47.679
<v Speaker 3>a has a message or meaning or because the two

745
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:53.559
<v Speaker 3>were the same and it didn't, I mean maybe maybe

746
00:48:53.639 --> 00:49:01.440
<v Speaker 3>juvenile sex sesshalk. I can't say the word sasquatch are artistic.

747
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 3>These were These were artistic. They were measured, they were planned,

748
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:15.079
<v Speaker 3>they were oh what's the word where? Not even that

749
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.559
<v Speaker 3>they were symmetrical, thank you. They were symmetrical and they

750
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:26.079
<v Speaker 3>matched and they they hit me like a message. But

751
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:28.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it was, you know. That's the

752
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:31.119
<v Speaker 3>only thing I'd like to know if other people could

753
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:31.679
<v Speaker 3>help me with that.

754
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the best thing I could say is it was

755
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>probably the Sasquad trading mounds, because the native people of

756
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:43.519
<v Speaker 1>this land say they were here before they were And

757
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.199
<v Speaker 1>they also say that about the ancient mound builders, that

758
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 1>they were there before the natives showed up. So I

759
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.079
<v Speaker 1>would say there's some sort of connection there. Did you

760
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 1>scoop out the mounds.

761
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 2>With like a shew? Okay? Because I was wondering maybe

762
00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 2>there was a chicken underneath there?

763
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:03.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, Well, the next time I got the courage

764
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 3>to go out there, they were gone. Really, yes, they

765
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:11.320
<v Speaker 3>were flattened, they were disappeared. There was still some rocks

766
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:13.840
<v Speaker 3>there and maybe some dirt because it was a dirt

767
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.840
<v Speaker 3>floor anyway, So if you spread it all out, you know,

768
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:19.719
<v Speaker 3>I guess they could have just left all the materials there.

769
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, they could be possible they buried the chickens

770
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 1>underneath the mound. Grizzly bears will do that with their kills.

771
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:32.280
<v Speaker 1>They'll cover it dirts and sticks over their kill pile

772
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and come back and get it later. So if the

773
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.239
<v Speaker 1>mound went messing when you went back, if it disappeared,

774
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:39.679
<v Speaker 1>then I would say that's likely what happened.

775
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I just know it was gone, and

776
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, well I'm not coming back anymore.

777
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever end up getting more chickens after that,

778
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:51.159
<v Speaker 2>or was that it?

779
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.440
<v Speaker 3>I only got bandy chickens, you know, the small ones,

780
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 3>and I had already had a small coop in the

781
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 3>backyard for bannies so you can watch them because they're little,

782
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.760
<v Speaker 3>you know. And so I have my big chickens in

783
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.559
<v Speaker 3>the in the big coop, and I kept little ones

784
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:13.719
<v Speaker 3>in the backyard so they couldn't get out. So I

785
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:17.159
<v Speaker 3>got more of those, but that, but that's it. I

786
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 3>didn't use the coop after that, Nope. But then again,

787
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I was working, so I just really didn't want a

788
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 3>whole lot of animals to take care of in the winter,

789
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 3>so because you have to carry hot water out there

790
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:37.199
<v Speaker 3>and you know, make sure your chickens don't freeze. So

791
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:40.719
<v Speaker 3>the little coop was really all I wanted to mess

792
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:43.239
<v Speaker 3>with anyway. So yeah, so that's that.

793
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's completely understandable. And yeah, if I'm ever in Oklahoma,

794
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a shout out and maybe we can

795
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:51.119
<v Speaker 1>meet up.

796
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:56.599
<v Speaker 3>And oh my god, well cool. Well, I appreciate you

797
00:51:57.519 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 3>and thank you for believing me.

798
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely believe you, and I appreciate you as well,

799
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm very grateful that you openly shared these experiences

800
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 1>on sasquatch Theory.

801
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:11.679
<v Speaker 2>Alrighty, all right, Cynthia.

802
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:13.320
<v Speaker 1>You have yourself an excellent day, and if you have

803
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:15.679
<v Speaker 1>any questions, feel free to reach out. If I find

804
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:20.119
<v Speaker 1>more information about the dirt and rock mounds, I will definitely.

805
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Shoot you a message. Okay, thank you so much. Yeah,

806
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 2>thank you, and you take care of yourself, you too,

807
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:26.719
<v Speaker 2>good Bye.

808
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I want to thank Cynthia for having the courage to

809
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:36.159
<v Speaker 1>share her experiences on the channel that she's kept to

810
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.599
<v Speaker 1>herself for many years now. It isn't easy talking about

811
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:44.079
<v Speaker 1>events that most people might dismiss, especially when those experiences

812
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>leave a lasting emotional impact. If you've experienced anything similar,

813
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:55.400
<v Speaker 1>whether it's unexplained vocalizations, rock throwing, strange structures, missing livestock,

814
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 1>or an encounter with something you can't explain, you can

815
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:02.880
<v Speaker 1>reach me at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. If

816
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:06.519
<v Speaker 1>anyone knows anything about the mounds of sasquatch left in

817
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>her chicken coub feel free to reach out, whether in

818
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the comments or if you experience this for yourself, you

819
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 1>can reach out by email. Every story is treated with respect,

820
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and if you'd like to remain anonymous, I'm happy to

821
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.280
<v Speaker 1>accommodate that. If you enjoy these interviews and want to

822
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:29.719
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823
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824
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<v Speaker 1>enjoys exploring the unknown. Until next time, stay safe, keep searching,

825
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