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<v Speaker 1>On on on. Welcome to the CEO pre Shio for

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<v Speaker 1>episode four ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Four ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, holy, oh my god. We're brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>the wonderful patrons at patreon dot com slash CCO podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether they like it or not, that's it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We are fresh back from the ceceal Experience Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, where we had liquid and salt diet

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<v Speaker 1>for five days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, wait, yes, yes, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're drinking some Niicomas craft Can you see them screen?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's probably gonna get green screened out, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>drinking Niicomas Long Lake Lagger and they were allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>do that because they are owned and operated by the

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<v Speaker 1>same people that own and operate Pile of Bones sick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's good. Yes, and I would drink some more

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<v Speaker 1>of it if if there was more, and there fucking is,

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna we're gonna talk about some magic this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what's the thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Magic Con Las Vegas. Were you there

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<v Speaker 1>only in body?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I was, yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a thing where I didn't go around to

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<v Speaker 1>every vendor and take pictures of expensive stuff. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>watch any of the preview panels or world building panels.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm gonna keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't go to the cosplay contest with my good

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<v Speaker 1>friend Mac. Oh. Yeah, that's kind of sucky. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do any of those things because you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing. Tell me, playing freaking Magic? What playing freaking magic? What?

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<v Speaker 1>Playing freaking magic?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I played the most games that I've played at

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<v Speaker 1>a Magic con since like probably twenty twenty one or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I played lots of games on Friday, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was fucking schwacked like all day. And I played a

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<v Speaker 1>whole draft plus games on Saturday, and then I played

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of Commander games on Sunday. Wow. I even

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<v Speaker 1>stood in line to buy merch like a frickin nerd.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, what did you get?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I got there on Sunday, so some of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff I wanted to sold out, But I did get

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<v Speaker 1>a pin for my son's pin collection. He puts him

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<v Speaker 1>on his hat and once they overflow his hat. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure one of my battle vests eighty seven lanyards or

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<v Speaker 1>a CEO battle vest, as everybody keeps asking, will eventually

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<v Speaker 1>have a pin collection.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be cool. I'm pretty dope.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>So Guy and sink Gal bought me a glarb a pin,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm very excited about. Oh. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do with it though, Like the background, like the

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<v Speaker 2>back cardboard piece of the pin is the background of

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<v Speaker 2>the art. And if you take glarbop of his throne,

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<v Speaker 2>then he's not really a sexy point anymore. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a weird frog. So what do I do with it? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Embroider a thrown onto your battle jacket, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>I could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we I guess we're gonna do the Grand

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas Thank You an Update episode on four ninety seven tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, do you have any like topics or

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<v Speaker 1>things or stories from Vegas that that aren't going to

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<v Speaker 1>fit into the main.

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<v Speaker 2>Show Sonic the Hedgehog Secret Layer?

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh yeah? Was that previewed in Vegas or did that

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<v Speaker 1>come out this week?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I didn't go to any of those

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<v Speaker 2>events either. Yeah, I don't know what the hell I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing. Man, I was that one with you?

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<v Speaker 1>As you do in Vegas, sometimes you just blow away

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<v Speaker 1>in the wind. Nobody ever misses you.

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<v Speaker 2>Aiden said, to me Aiden all killer, no filler, chiller, killer, thriller.

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<v Speaker 2>Miller never heard her, and he was like, dude, you

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<v Speaker 2>just like waddle off into the ether and then nobody

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<v Speaker 2>sees you for hours. Where do you go edge of eternity?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I don't, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's literally what they used to say to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're schmoozing, you're looking at stuff, You're just doing non

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<v Speaker 1>magic activities in general.

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<v Speaker 2>And I barely schmoozed. Like I'd go to a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I wanted to look at and I'd bump into

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<v Speaker 2>some people that like, yeah, knew and right is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, back to Sonic the Hedgehog you're talking earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>uh huh last week? Uh huhm. When is the Universes

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<v Speaker 2>beyond going to hit something that, like, I don't know about?

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<v Speaker 2>Hedgehog isn't one of them. I know, man, when they

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<v Speaker 2>hit something that I just do not give a shit about?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it so to Hedgehog?

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<v Speaker 1>Is sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Which makes me sad because some of the cards are

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<v Speaker 2>really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I really did play a lot of Sonic. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a Sega Genesis guy when I was young. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a Super Nintendo. I had a Sega Genesis and

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<v Speaker 1>at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Though you have fast parents don't like you, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, while I am the redheaded middle child, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is true. I had a Sega Genesis. Played some Sonic

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<v Speaker 1>Sonica knuckles, the ones that stacked on top of each other.

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<v Speaker 2>You know three in Sonica Knuckles very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and Sonic two and Sonic one. They all

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<v Speaker 1>stacked on top of each other. I played them all

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<v Speaker 1>and it was fun. Yeah. I think it's like any

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<v Speaker 1>other secret layer sort of. It doesn't It doesn't tickle

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<v Speaker 1>my nads. I was hoping for the like a Sonic

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<v Speaker 1>ring that was gonna be a soul ring. There is

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<v Speaker 1>not enough gol dang soul rings in secret layers.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there's a sel ring in this one. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a ring, but there is a saw ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Eh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a ring where Sonic's doing a loop? No? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not. It's not a ring. That's a that's

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<v Speaker 2>a token of some kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like he picks up rings and when he gets

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<v Speaker 1>hit all the rings fly out. Yeah, yes, there's not.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those, but there is a there's a ring

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<v Speaker 2>and then the sel rings like Sonic like in a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking ring. Noah's producing for us today. He probably doesn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know, doesn't he's like fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>But he likes games. He likes games. He knows all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of stuff you wouldn't expect him to know because

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<v Speaker 2>he's a gamer.

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<v Speaker 1>King.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and Sonic the Hedgehog, while not having a good

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<v Speaker 2>game since nineteen ninety six, is in fact I long

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<v Speaker 2>lived game franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the ones I played. Yeah, just fy I

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<v Speaker 1>can still hear the noise when Sonic gets hit and

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<v Speaker 1>all the rings fly out of them. You can hear

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<v Speaker 1>it too, can't chase?

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<v Speaker 2>I can?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think that's a very famous video game sound,

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<v Speaker 1>like like the one up sound or the Mario Jump sound.

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<v Speaker 2>It is kind of neat how Sonic the Hedgehog gives

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<v Speaker 2>all your creatures with haste or whatever. If they get hit,

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<v Speaker 2>you make a treasure because you did you get a

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<v Speaker 2>hit and all the rings fly out of them. That's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool, right, Like that's pretty cool. I do opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think of that. The cards are really cool. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't really like Sonic the Hedgehog, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't want to play. So now I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get like, I don't want to have Spider Man

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<v Speaker 2>in my desk. I don't want to put knuckles in Noran.

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<v Speaker 1>Knuckles in Nora.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not move all that, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't want to do that. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>But here we are, here, we are yeah, and goddam

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's totally fine. I expected when I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>Sonic like Card, I was like, Oh, there's the new

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<v Speaker 1>Secret Layer. I'm gonna click through this cart image gallery

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna see a sol ring with either a

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<v Speaker 1>loop or a ring.

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<v Speaker 2>You got neither. But there's a soling, there is a soaring.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna see swift foot boots and lightning greaves and

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<v Speaker 1>those are gonna be somebody's shoes and they are there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are there, right. I feel as though the

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<v Speaker 1>more and more franchises you pick that are smaller and

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<v Speaker 1>smaller because they're not all the sides of Final Fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>and Lord of the Rings and Marvel, they get smaller

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<v Speaker 1>and smaller and smaller and become more and more and

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<v Speaker 1>more predictable. What would Secret Layer c COO be? It's

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<v Speaker 1>just be beer.

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<v Speaker 2>Wa it'd be there'll be a food token with a

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<v Speaker 2>beer can on it. There'd be a brash tunter with

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<v Speaker 2>me on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there'd be a grove with me on it, with

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<v Speaker 1>you on it. And I'm saying like actually, and then

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<v Speaker 1>what would my catchphrase be?

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<v Speaker 2>Mother ass? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And yours would be I want to feel a hard

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<v Speaker 1>act the country on a brash taunter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, precisely, yes, yes, And then we need like one

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<v Speaker 2>more card. Ah, now I guess that one's the token,

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<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't count. Then we get a basic mountain

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<v Speaker 2>probably yeah, like that's made of like bottle caps with

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<v Speaker 2>a shark like sitting on top of it counting them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no. A mountain would be the pile

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<v Speaker 1>of empty beer cans and trash bags and empty beer

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<v Speaker 1>boxes at the CCO experience. That would be the mountain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the swamp would be the

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<v Speaker 2>septic tank underneath the house. Oh yeah, left.

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<v Speaker 1>The swamp would be the booster box that I threw

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<v Speaker 1>into the pool swamp ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>The swamp would be the bathroom in the house where

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<v Speaker 1>the toilet didn't work. The bathtub.

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<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't rain. Apparently that was because of a flood.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know who told me that. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>told me that this year that the reason that the

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago house is bathtub didn't drain

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<v Speaker 2>is because the plumbing was all fucked in that neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>because it was a flood.

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<v Speaker 1>I did hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just such a weird thing to think about. In

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<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas there was torrential rains and a flood.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, man, what a world?

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<v Speaker 2>And like, was the torrential rains like a rain we

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<v Speaker 2>would get here and they're just not prepared for it

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<v Speaker 2>because they're not used to rain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like snow in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get Yeah, like we're got a massive blizzard

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas. It's like an inch of snow and everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>dead and like Austin is just on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Pipes are frozen and it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>No running water or electricity for months.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like the cover image for Season one of The

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<v Speaker 1>Walking Dead, where like the one horse is riding into town.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's trying to get the fuck out of Dodge.

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<v Speaker 2>Opening scene from twenty eight weeks later. Yes, I watched

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<v Speaker 2>that this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, in preparation for twenty eight years later.

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<v Speaker 2>I shall not be seeing twenty eight years later after

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<v Speaker 2>watching twenty eight weeks later, this is the pre show

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<v Speaker 2>I can say, I can I can say this I

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty eight days later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a beloved horror and zombie franchise movie

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<v Speaker 1>or became a franchise, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Very novel, well done show.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it based on.

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<v Speaker 2>A book or a comic? Could be? Okay, it s

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<v Speaker 2>another another genom question. Yeah, twenty eight weeks they make

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<v Speaker 2>total heel turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen Walking Dead? Like? That definitely happens with

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<v Speaker 2>He kills his wife. Okay, the first opportunity the guy

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<v Speaker 2>in season one, episode one was gonna kill his wife

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<v Speaker 2>and Walking Dead and then they stole it from twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight days later. What a derivative franchise that is. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Almost like we had kicked off the secret layer of

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, and then the movie just kind of it's

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<v Speaker 2>just the same. It's kind of the same movie. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a third one.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't all zombie movies kind of the same movie?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you can change it, like sometimes the zombies get smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you're in like a vastly different location, which gives

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<v Speaker 2>of the Living Dead they're in a cabin, and then

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<v Speaker 2>in the next one they're in a mall. Yes, same premise,

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<v Speaker 2>but different situations. And then like City of the Dead,

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<v Speaker 2>zombies off. Oh yeah, so they change, they change over time.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have the distinct and I'm not an expert

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<v Speaker 1>You watch law you are the resident export expert out

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<v Speaker 2>You okay, cool. So I'm the expert of the movies,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have to believe me when I say the

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<v Speaker 2>way horror movies franchises have typically gone over the last

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<v Speaker 2>decade or so, I would suggest a more of the

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<v Speaker 1>So, now, if I were to stick with the naming

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<v Speaker 1>convention of twenty eight something something something right, what's next

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<v Speaker 1>like two hundred and eighty years later, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>post apocalyptic zombie movie. You're crossing genres. Now it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty fucking good, pretty smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest, it's gonna be twenty eight days later,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight years later too.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty six years later, kid out like Final Fantasy fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>to two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's gonna be just like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I like fifty six years later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, let me just get out of here, or the.

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<v Speaker 1>Prequel fifty six hours before this. That's like when the

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<v Speaker 1>goup gets spilled and turn somebody into a zombie. As

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<v Speaker 1>if that wasn't covered in the movie, it probably was

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<v Speaker 2>It was there another rage zombie movie where like Cilly

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<v Speaker 2>and Murphy at the end, like injects a monkey's blood

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<v Speaker 2>into him to kill the virus? Is that twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>days later?

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<v Speaker 1>I would never inject somebody else's blood into my body

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<v Speaker 1>unless it was under the explicit direction of a licensed

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<v Speaker 1>medical professional. And I'm not talking about doctor Nick from

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<v Speaker 1>freaking the Simpsons.

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<v Speaker 2>What if it was to avert and squash the zombie apocalypse,

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<v Speaker 2>not even to quash the zombie apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was a real clinical setting and the doctor

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<v Speaker 1>alley and the guys like put this blood inside you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna stop the humanity from dying. It probably isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm injecting blood into my blood in a back

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<v Speaker 1>alley from some dude. It's in his beer cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you and me and Noah and Gary and Maggie,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're in a medical a military medical facility. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this sounds plausus. Is real ass ship, and on the

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<v Speaker 2>table is patient zero, monkey guy, and one of us

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<v Speaker 2>has to get the blood. It's like the cure that

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<v Speaker 2>they've made, and they've manufactured right there. We just have

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<v Speaker 2>to see. Yep, we have to test it on somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have the smallest dick, so you gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of Maggie, who's a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would also she's a dog, so if it

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<v Speaker 2>works on her, we still have to inject it into

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<v Speaker 2>one of us, because dang it, we don't do animal

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<v Speaker 2>testing here in the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Math checks out all on all regardless. I would still

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<v Speaker 1>say you do it because you put that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>But how would you know if it would work. I

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<v Speaker 2>might just metabolize it the same way all those talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>It up five minutes later, exactly and if you and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't die. Yeah, though it also can't kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it works, it'll probably work on us. If

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work, somebody else will have to test it.

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<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't work, you can't die, that's true. So

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<v Speaker 1>to you, my friend, we've kind of cut off a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of different avenues of kind of theory and

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<v Speaker 1>we've crafted an answer that I think everybody would be acceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're accepting your father. Do I tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>I convinced Dice Guy Scott that I'm a ghost?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. He said that he had a dream that

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<v Speaker 2>I was dead on Sunday in Vegas, like I was

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<v Speaker 2>a ghost. And then I informed him that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>a ghost since two thousand of eight thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 2>when I died of heat exhaustion, and just everybody believes

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So we've got some Vegas stories, kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>weekend synopsis summary. Thank you to the people that we

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<v Speaker 2>We have some observations about the game of magic.

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<v Speaker 1>The gathering definitely have observations because we.

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<v Speaker 2>Spent some time, or we didn't go around take expensive

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<v Speaker 1>And I played a ton of magic games that you're

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<v Speaker 1>show tomorrow, but having gone to a bunch knowing people,

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<v Speaker 1>What's the game? And he goes, Magic be Gathering. I go, yeah, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>is it like Commander CEDH like casual? And he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like a two hour CEDH slog.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shit myself?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, oh no, no, we'll talk about on the

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<v Speaker 2>I had a really good Level one game, if you

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, they learned, they learned, they learned, figured it out.

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<v Speaker 1>What else? We had a chili for five days. We're

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was such a good choke.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you take any of the sour dough bread and

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<v Speaker 1>just scoop with it? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're gonna we're going to talk about that. Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard of him. Producer Gary rolled in with more

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<v Speaker 1>Uber beers. Gary, So we're gonna go four ninety seven

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