Speaker 1: On on on. Welcome to the CEO pre Shio for
Speaker 1: episode four ninety seven.
Speaker 2: Four ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Yes, holy, oh my god. We're brought to you by
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Speaker 2: Whether they like it or not, that's it, and.
Speaker 1: We are fresh back from the ceceal Experience Las Vegas
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, where we had liquid and salt diet
Speaker 1: for five days.
Speaker 2: Yes, wait, yes, yes, that's it.
Speaker 1: And we're drinking some Niicomas craft Can you see them screen?
Speaker 1: It's it's probably gonna get green screened out, but we're
Speaker 1: drinking Niicomas Long Lake Lagger and they were allowed to
Speaker 1: do that because they are owned and operated by the
Speaker 1: same people that own and operate Pile of Bones sick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's good. Yes, and I would drink some more
Speaker 1: of it if if there was more, and there fucking is,
Speaker 1: And we're gonna we're gonna talk about some magic this week.
Speaker 1: I did a thing.
Speaker 2: Oh what's the thing?
Speaker 1: I went to Magic Con Las Vegas. Were you there
Speaker 1: only in body?
Speaker 2: Yes? I was, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: I did a thing where I didn't go around to
Speaker 1: every vendor and take pictures of expensive stuff. I didn't
Speaker 1: watch any of the preview panels or world building panels.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna keep going.
Speaker 1: I didn't go to the cosplay contest with my good
Speaker 1: friend Mac. Oh. Yeah, that's kind of sucky. I didn't
Speaker 1: do any of those things because you know what I
Speaker 1: was doing. Tell me, playing freaking Magic? What playing freaking magic? What?
Speaker 1: Playing freaking magic?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I played the most games that I've played at
Speaker 1: a Magic con since like probably twenty twenty one or
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played lots of games on Friday, and I
Speaker 1: was fucking schwacked like all day. And I played a
Speaker 1: whole draft plus games on Saturday, and then I played
Speaker 1: a bunch of Commander games on Sunday. Wow. I even
Speaker 1: stood in line to buy merch like a frickin nerd.
Speaker 2: Wow, what did you get?
Speaker 1: Well? I got there on Sunday, so some of the
Speaker 1: stuff I wanted to sold out, But I did get
Speaker 1: a pin for my son's pin collection. He puts him
Speaker 1: on his hat and once they overflow his hat. I'm
Speaker 1: sure one of my battle vests eighty seven lanyards or
Speaker 1: a CEO battle vest, as everybody keeps asking, will eventually
Speaker 1: have a pin collection.
Speaker 2: That'd be cool. I'm pretty dope.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 2: So Guy and sink Gal bought me a glarb a pin,
Speaker 2: which I'm very excited about. Oh. I don't know what
Speaker 2: to do with it though, Like the background, like the
Speaker 2: back cardboard piece of the pin is the background of
Speaker 2: the art. And if you take glarbop of his throne,
Speaker 2: then he's not really a sexy point anymore. It's just
Speaker 2: a weird frog. So what do I do with it? Now?
Speaker 1: Embroider a thrown onto your battle jacket, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I could do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we I guess we're gonna do the Grand
Speaker 1: Vegas Thank You an Update episode on four ninety seven tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But right now, do you have any like topics or
Speaker 1: things or stories from Vegas that that aren't going to
Speaker 1: fit into the main.
Speaker 2: Show Sonic the Hedgehog Secret Layer?
Speaker 1: Ooh yeah? Was that previewed in Vegas or did that
Speaker 1: come out this week?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't go to any of those
Speaker 2: events either. Yeah, I don't know what the hell I
Speaker 2: was doing. Man, I was that one with you?
Speaker 1: As you do in Vegas, sometimes you just blow away
Speaker 1: in the wind. Nobody ever misses you.
Speaker 2: Aiden said, to me Aiden all killer, no filler, chiller, killer, thriller.
Speaker 2: Miller never heard her, and he was like, dude, you
Speaker 2: just like waddle off into the ether and then nobody
Speaker 2: sees you for hours. Where do you go edge of eternity?
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Right, that's literally what they used to say to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're schmoozing, you're looking at stuff, You're just doing non
Speaker 1: magic activities in general.
Speaker 2: And I barely schmoozed. Like I'd go to a thing
Speaker 2: that I wanted to look at and I'd bump into
Speaker 2: some people that like, yeah, knew and right is crazy.
Speaker 2: But anyway, back to Sonic the Hedgehog you're talking earlier,
Speaker 2: uh huh last week? Uh huhm. When is the Universes
Speaker 2: beyond going to hit something that, like, I don't know about?
Speaker 2: Hedgehog isn't one of them. I know, man, when they
Speaker 2: hit something that I just do not give a shit about?
Speaker 2: Is it so to Hedgehog?
Speaker 1: Is sure?
Speaker 2: Which makes me sad because some of the cards are
Speaker 2: really cool.
Speaker 1: I really did play a lot of Sonic. I was
Speaker 1: a Sega Genesis guy when I was young. I didn't
Speaker 1: have a Super Nintendo. I had a Sega Genesis and
Speaker 1: at the time.
Speaker 2: Though you have fast parents don't like you, it's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, while I am the redheaded middle child, and that
Speaker 1: is true. I had a Sega Genesis. Played some Sonic
Speaker 1: Sonica knuckles, the ones that stacked on top of each other.
Speaker 2: You know three in Sonica Knuckles very good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and Sonic two and Sonic one. They all
Speaker 1: stacked on top of each other. I played them all
Speaker 1: and it was fun. Yeah. I think it's like any
Speaker 1: other secret layer sort of. It doesn't It doesn't tickle
Speaker 1: my nads. I was hoping for the like a Sonic
Speaker 1: ring that was gonna be a soul ring. There is
Speaker 1: not enough gol dang soul rings in secret layers.
Speaker 2: Is there's a sel ring in this one. It's not
Speaker 2: a ring, but there is a saw ring.
Speaker 1: Eh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is it a ring where Sonic's doing a loop? No? Oh,
Speaker 1: that would be cool.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's not a ring. That's a that's
Speaker 2: a token of some kind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he picks up rings and when he gets
Speaker 1: hit all the rings fly out. Yeah, yes, there's not.
Speaker 2: One of those, but there is a there's a ring
Speaker 2: and then the sel rings like Sonic like in a
Speaker 2: fucking ring. Noah's producing for us today. He probably doesn't know.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know, doesn't he's like fourteen.
Speaker 2: But he likes games. He likes games. He knows all
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff you wouldn't expect him to know because
Speaker 2: he's a gamer.
Speaker 1: King.
Speaker 2: Yes, and Sonic the Hedgehog, while not having a good
Speaker 2: game since nineteen ninety six, is in fact I long
Speaker 2: lived game franchise.
Speaker 1: Those are the ones I played. Yeah, just fy I
Speaker 1: can still hear the noise when Sonic gets hit and
Speaker 1: all the rings fly out of them. You can hear
Speaker 1: it too, can't chase?
Speaker 2: I can?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's a very famous video game sound,
Speaker 1: like like the one up sound or the Mario Jump sound.
Speaker 2: It is kind of neat how Sonic the Hedgehog gives
Speaker 2: all your creatures with haste or whatever. If they get hit,
Speaker 2: you make a treasure because you did you get a
Speaker 2: hit and all the rings fly out of them. That's
Speaker 2: pretty cool, right, Like that's pretty cool. I do opinion,
Speaker 2: didn't think of that. The cards are really cool. I
Speaker 2: just I don't really like Sonic the Hedgehog, so it's
Speaker 2: like I don't want to play. So now I kind
Speaker 2: of get like, I don't want to have Spider Man
Speaker 2: in my desk. I don't want to put knuckles in Noran.
Speaker 1: Knuckles in Nora.
Speaker 2: I do not move all that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to do that. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: But here we are, here, we are yeah, and goddam
Speaker 1: it's it's totally fine. I expected when I saw the
Speaker 1: Sonic like Card, I was like, Oh, there's the new
Speaker 1: Secret Layer. I'm gonna click through this cart image gallery
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna see a sol ring with either a
Speaker 1: loop or a ring.
Speaker 2: You got neither. But there's a soling, there is a soaring.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see swift foot boots and lightning greaves and
Speaker 1: those are gonna be somebody's shoes and they are there,
Speaker 1: and they are there, right. I feel as though the
Speaker 1: more and more franchises you pick that are smaller and
Speaker 1: smaller because they're not all the sides of Final Fantasy
Speaker 1: and Lord of the Rings and Marvel, they get smaller
Speaker 1: and smaller and smaller and become more and more and
Speaker 1: more predictable. What would Secret Layer c COO be? It's
Speaker 1: just be beer.
Speaker 2: Wa it'd be there'll be a food token with a
Speaker 2: beer can on it. There'd be a brash tunter with
Speaker 2: me on it.
Speaker 1: Yes, there'd be a grove with me on it, with
Speaker 1: you on it. And I'm saying like actually, and then
Speaker 1: what would my catchphrase be?
Speaker 2: Mother ass? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And yours would be I want to feel a hard
Speaker 1: act the country on a brash taunter.
Speaker 2: Yes, precisely, yes, yes, And then we need like one
Speaker 2: more card. Ah, now I guess that one's the token,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't count. Then we get a basic mountain
Speaker 2: probably yeah, like that's made of like bottle caps with
Speaker 2: a shark like sitting on top of it counting them.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no. A mountain would be the pile
Speaker 1: of empty beer cans and trash bags and empty beer
Speaker 1: boxes at the CCO experience. That would be the mountain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the swamp would be the
Speaker 2: septic tank underneath the house. Oh yeah, left.
Speaker 1: The swamp would be the booster box that I threw
Speaker 1: into the pool swamp ass.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: The swamp would be the bathroom in the house where
Speaker 1: the toilet didn't work. The bathtub.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't rain. Apparently that was because of a flood.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know who told me that. Somebody
Speaker 2: told me that this year that the reason that the
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago house is bathtub didn't drain
Speaker 2: is because the plumbing was all fucked in that neighborhood
Speaker 2: because it was a flood.
Speaker 1: I did hear that.
Speaker 2: It's just such a weird thing to think about. In
Speaker 2: Las Vegas there was torrential rains and a flood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, what a world?
Speaker 2: And like, was the torrential rains like a rain we
Speaker 2: would get here and they're just not prepared for it
Speaker 2: because they're not used to rain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like snow in Texas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get Yeah, like we're got a massive blizzard
Speaker 2: in Texas. It's like an inch of snow and everybody's
Speaker 2: dead and like Austin is just on fire.
Speaker 1: Pipes are frozen and it's like.
Speaker 2: No running water or electricity for months.
Speaker 1: Looks like the cover image for Season one of The
Speaker 1: Walking Dead, where like the one horse is riding into town.
Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to get the fuck out of Dodge.
Speaker 2: Opening scene from twenty eight weeks later. Yes, I watched
Speaker 2: that this afternoon.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, in preparation for twenty eight years later.
Speaker 2: I shall not be seeing twenty eight years later after
Speaker 2: watching twenty eight weeks later, this is the pre show
Speaker 2: I can say, I can I can say this I
Speaker 2: like twenty eight days later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a beloved horror and zombie franchise movie
Speaker 1: or became a franchise, a.
Speaker 2: Very novel, well done show.
Speaker 1: Is it based on.
Speaker 2: A book or a comic? Could be? Okay, it s
Speaker 2: another another genom question. Yeah, twenty eight weeks they make
Speaker 2: your survivor guy into a complete asshole number one total
Speaker 2: total heel turn.
Speaker 1: Have you seen Walking Dead? Like? That definitely happens with
Speaker 1: basically every character.
Speaker 2: He kills his wife. Okay, the first opportunity the guy
Speaker 2: in season one, episode one was gonna kill his wife
Speaker 2: and Walking Dead and then they stole it from twenty
Speaker 2: eight days later. What a derivative franchise that is. Hey,
Speaker 2: m it's.
Speaker 1: Almost like we had kicked off the secret layer of
Speaker 1: freaking universe scum. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyways, and then the movie just kind of it's
Speaker 2: just the same. It's kind of the same movie. Again,
Speaker 2: there's a third one.
Speaker 1: Aren't all zombie movies kind of the same movie?
Speaker 2: No, you can change it, like sometimes the zombies get smart.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're in like a vastly different location, which gives
Speaker 2: you different ways of dealing with zombies. Like in Night
Speaker 2: of the Living Dead they're in a cabin, and then
Speaker 2: in the next one they're in a mall. Yes, same premise,
Speaker 2: but different situations. And then like City of the Dead,
Speaker 2: like the zombies have learned to use tools, and like
Speaker 2: there's a city where humans live, try to keep the
Speaker 2: zombies off. Oh yeah, so they change, they change over time.
Speaker 2: But I have the distinct and I'm not an expert
Speaker 2: on movies.
Speaker 1: You watch law you are the resident export expert out
Speaker 1: of me and.
Speaker 2: You okay, cool. So I'm the expert of the movies,
Speaker 2: so you have to believe me when I say the
Speaker 2: way horror movies franchises have typically gone over the last
Speaker 2: decade or so, I would suggest a more of the
Speaker 2: same movie from this franchise that probably sets up for
Speaker 2: a fucking another one, and that can just take a hike.
Speaker 1: So, now, if I were to stick with the naming
Speaker 1: convention of twenty eight something something something right, what's next
Speaker 1: like two hundred and eighty years later, it's like a
Speaker 1: post apocalyptic zombie movie. You're crossing genres. Now it'd be
Speaker 1: it's pretty fucking good, pretty smart.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, it's gonna be twenty eight days later,
Speaker 2: twenty eight years later too.
Speaker 1: Fifty six years later, kid out like Final Fantasy fourteen
Speaker 1: to two.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's gonna be just like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like fifty six years later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, let me just get out of here, or the.
Speaker 1: Prequel fifty six hours before this. That's like when the
Speaker 1: goup gets spilled and turn somebody into a zombie. As
Speaker 1: if that wasn't covered in the movie, it probably was
Speaker 1: never seen.
Speaker 2: It was there another rage zombie movie where like Cilly
Speaker 2: and Murphy at the end, like injects a monkey's blood
Speaker 2: into him to kill the virus? Is that twenty eight
Speaker 2: days later?
Speaker 1: I would never inject somebody else's blood into my body
Speaker 1: unless it was under the explicit direction of a licensed
Speaker 1: medical professional. And I'm not talking about doctor Nick from
Speaker 1: freaking the Simpsons.
Speaker 2: What if it was to avert and squash the zombie apocalypse,
Speaker 2: not even to quash the zombie apocalypse.
Speaker 1: If it was a real clinical setting and the doctor
Speaker 1: was doing it. If it was like in a back
Speaker 1: alley and the guys like put this blood inside you.
Speaker 1: It's gonna stop the humanity from dying. It probably isn't.
Speaker 1: So I'm injecting blood into my blood in a back
Speaker 1: alley from some dude. It's in his beer cooler.
Speaker 2: It's you and me and Noah and Gary and Maggie,
Speaker 2: and we're in a medical a military medical facility. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: this sounds plausus. Is real ass ship, and on the
Speaker 2: table is patient zero, monkey guy, and one of us
Speaker 2: has to get the blood. It's like the cure that
Speaker 2: they've made, and they've manufactured right there. We just have
Speaker 2: to see. Yep, we have to test it on somebody.
Speaker 2: And you have the smallest dick, so you gotta do it.
Speaker 1: Out of Maggie, who's a girl.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would also she's a dog, so if it
Speaker 2: works on her, we still have to inject it into
Speaker 2: one of us, because dang it, we don't do animal
Speaker 2: testing here in the nation.
Speaker 1: Math checks out all on all regardless. I would still
Speaker 1: say you do it because you put that kind of
Speaker 1: filth into your body every day.
Speaker 2: But how would you know if it would work. I
Speaker 2: might just metabolize it the same way all those talk about.
Speaker 1: It up five minutes later, exactly and if you and
Speaker 1: you can't die. Yeah, though it also can't kill you.
Speaker 1: So if it works, it'll probably work on us. If
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, somebody else will have to test it.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, you can't die, that's true. So
Speaker 1: to you, my friend, we've kind of cut off a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of different avenues of kind of theory and
Speaker 1: we've crafted an answer that I think everybody would be acceptable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're accepting your father. Do I tell you that
Speaker 2: I convinced Dice Guy Scott that I'm a ghost?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. He said that he had a dream that
Speaker 2: I was dead on Sunday in Vegas, like I was
Speaker 2: a ghost. And then I informed him that I've been
Speaker 2: a ghost since two thousand of eight thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: when I died of heat exhaustion, and just everybody believes
Speaker 2: in me so much that I stay alive. Spooky Brando,
Speaker 2: I've actually been a ghost this entire time. Oh yeah, right,
Speaker 2: very good.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we've got some Vegas stories, kind of a
Speaker 1: weekend synopsis summary. Thank you to the people that we
Speaker 1: played games with and spent the week with.
Speaker 2: We have some observations about the game of magic.
Speaker 1: The gathering definitely have observations because we.
Speaker 2: Spent some time, or we didn't go around take expensive
Speaker 2: pictures of expensive stuff, but like, we did our rounds,
Speaker 2: and I talked to lots of people, and I went
Speaker 2: to all the vendors and I looked at lots of
Speaker 2: the pricing. I heard lots of the announcements, and I
Speaker 2: paid attention to all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And I played a ton of magic games that you're
Speaker 1: in with the people. I was in with the people,
Speaker 1: and I was playing with strangers like man, and you
Speaker 1: know how it goes like just having gone to a
Speaker 1: bunch of these and we'll talk about them on the
Speaker 1: show tomorrow, but having gone to a bunch knowing people,
Speaker 1: people coming up saying I want games, playing games with
Speaker 1: people in the house. I was randomly walking past, and
Speaker 1: you know the judges, they go like one, one, one,
Speaker 1: they're looking for one guy. Yeah, I just walked up
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, I'm one guy, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: What's the game? And he goes, Magic be Gathering. I go, yeah, fuck,
Speaker 1: is it like Commander CEDH like casual? And he goes,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's a CDH game. Boom. I jumped in
Speaker 1: and it was like a two hour CEDH slog.
Speaker 2: Oh shit myself?
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, no, we'll talk about on the
Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow. Four nine seven.
Speaker 2: I had a really good Level one game, if you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they learned, they learned, they learned, figured it out.
Speaker 1: What else? We had a chili for five days. We're
Speaker 1: going to certainly talk about that.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was such a good choke.
Speaker 1: Did you take any of the sour dough bread and
Speaker 1: just scoop with it? No?
Speaker 2: I didn't, even though more boy Willye p ninety degrees
Speaker 2: did make that himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna we're going to talk about that. Gary,
Speaker 1: you've heard of him. Producer Gary rolled in with more
Speaker 1: beer is Uber eats Gary and rolled in with some
Speaker 1: Uber beers. Gary, So we're gonna go four ninety seven
Speaker 1: your brando. You're here with Ryan and Noah and Maggie
Speaker 1: and Gary and about eighteen more beer hit our theme song,
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