Speaker 1: Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Weekly Giek.
This is your audition for December ninth. Whatever. I'm the
Mountless Trust. Now I'm joined.
Speaker 2: By uh just Kirk, Kirk combatzer just Kirk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what a what a little I don't know,
kerfuffle it's been to get to this point. If you're
wondering why I'm coming in hot or coming in annoyed
on it, I talked about, hey, this mic, I might
sound a little bit different on Trust. So he might
sound a little bit different because I got to use
this stupid chord right here, because the other chord that
I use it has the better audio that sits on
my mount stand. But the mount I'm missing a piece,
don't know where it is, have no idea what happened
to it, don't even remember put it down anywhere. And
then Taylor, which he did say, oh, this might not
be the exact one, but I'm gonna say when we
were talking about shared the link very quickly, and I
just because he's like, oh, I know nothing, blah blah blah.
So I just I didn't know you just blindly throw
out anything. I thought he kind of had an idea
maybe looked into this before.
Speaker 2: And like it just throw up a random link and
be like pick something like this.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought that link meant that he had some
knowledge on the situation. I'll say, granted, yes, I should
have looked intomorrow, so I get it today. It's just
like a it's a fucking screw that doesn't fit at all.
It's a screw that's in the micro it's it's this
right here for people to audio. You see this gold
one right there. That's all I got again. So I
got three of those, So I'm said, of those of
her break, I'm said, if I ever need one of those.
But the problem is I don't need that right now.
I need something that had hooks to my mouth down now.
And because then he he gives me this music story,
it's like, oh, we'll go here, we'll just call him.
It's like, I don't even know what I'm fucking looking for.
We don't even know the exact size this thing because
it just came with the stand. So I sent, Yeah,
is that you think that's the exact one? Though?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure it'll work. Yes, give you a
tailor guarantee you on that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's sure it will work, and like I don't
even know. I was trying to find that one on AMAS. Okay,
I think I found it. Yeah, so only for stalk
and left Amazon. It's a what is it Mike's Stand?
You think he's gonna understand this? Mike's stand adapter? You
know Fred's female to you know what?
Speaker 2: Show the photo to the gentleman or I guess you're
not going in there if I would, if I were
to phone them, you to phone them, just just read
it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2: So it's his job. He's an expert, gets paid to
do that.
Speaker 1: No, I'll get the fucking kid who's just got stoner
talking sell any adapters and stuff. So it's just like
your question, to do it ord tonight? And even then
the earliest it could? Uh, what is the earliest right now?
Just says rise thirteen days before Christmas? What is that?
What's thirteen days before? Persons?
Speaker 2: Why they have to give you a riddle? Why do
they just give you a fucking date?
Speaker 1: I know?
Speaker 2: Right to bring up my calendar.
Speaker 1: Just says a free deliverate Friday, December twelfth, But again
after a Friday, I'm done podcasting. We got Wednesday we
got third today, You're done well, no, just for the week,
so it's like I get him at the end, but
we got some important casts, so I guess i'll try.
But yeah, so I apologize. So if anyone's listening live
and Kirkland sounds a little bit quiet or vice versa,
let us know because we can adjust because this chord
only lets it go so hi, which is weird because
it's like a better audio chord. But I don't know.
That's my fucking luck I got today. So how are
you doing, Kirkland.
Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. I just really realized today that
I only have next week and then I'm off for
like for the break, which is kind of crazy. I
feel like Christmas is coming fast and it's just faster.
Yeah exactly. So after week four there, I'm gonna be
off for two weeks and then probably forget everything I've
been learning and then we'll go from there. But no,
I'm doing pretty good. School's going good. I got my
new PC. This is my first cast on the new PC,
so this is kind of a big at a different
angle right now, so it's a little bit throw me off.
Speaker 1: And what's that I said? Sitting down again?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was feeling a little, a little tired, so
I decided to sit. But I definitely will be trying
some more standing standing casts because I don't know. I
was surprised last time I had the stamina to last
as long as I did. I thought I was gonna
make one hour. I made it too. It was a
long cast you me and Taylor did, but uh, fun
time nonetheless, but uh yeah, it's going pretty good. My
Vikings finally won a game, which was kind of surprising.
They beat up a very beat up team that's on
like a nine game losing streep, but we'll take it.
So yeah, thumbs up all around.
Speaker 1: And a team that's like half dead, you know, they've
lost their oh yeah, running.
Speaker 2: Back even more dead after playing my team, so there, Yeah.
Speaker 1: They lost their tight end. Yeah that was that was
brutal on my team King of the North.
Speaker 2: Right now, you know, Kingland North.
Speaker 1: We're just one Seattle lost away from being top of
the NFC, which would be pretty nice. It's uh, it's okay.
I still don't uh, I still don't have faith. I
did say for people, this is football talk. If people
don't know, I did say I kind of gave up
on Josh Allen, I am starting to restore the faith
a little bit and think it's possible. Pas Packers, I
still can't get there. I won't get there until like
the Super Bowl's over and I see that score, like
I will never ever believe that for this current coaching.
Not bad coaching, but yeah, for the first time, after
fourteen weeks, I'm not lasting the fantasy draft in a
fantasy league, So that's nice. Finally, after the worst luck
of all time, which we will talk about people in
the draft, we will try to set up I know
we got our last after nine regular in a couple
of weeks, I'll try to set up one, but it
might not happen, just because it's very busy for all
of us, so we're gonna try. If not, it'll be
in January. Lucky or luckily, January doesn't have too much
stuff going on, so I apologize. We want to try
and do one December, but it's just been crazy, and yeah,
we could have a crazy week done to a soul
side quest. We did it episode seven million. Dylan, I
did trefs told you about the paramount stuff, trying to
do a hostile bid, and then lots of stuff patrons.
Soon you're gonna be getting start for the producers. You're
gonna getting commentary for Stars Wars or Not, God Rise, Skywalker,
and soon Scary Movie. You guys get some twenty twenty
six exclusive content early uh. And then also, I don't
know when, by no patrons, soon you'll be getting it.
We're gonna be reviewing a Silent Night, Deadly Night that
won the Christmas to you christ.
Speaker 2: I just watched that like before this, so it's pretty fresh.
Speaker 3: All.
Speaker 2: I won't to talk about it, but no, what a flick.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a fun review though, That's
what I'll say. I think it's gonna be a good
time there, so look up for that. And then yeah,
on the Thursday, we for sure got the Video Game
Awards breakdown, so that would be combo of us. My
hope is again tonight twin. Everything was going fine until
literally the mic thing was the last thing I did.
I was like, oh, Emily told me it's here, Oh
here we go, can't wait? And then I open up
and that delayed me, delivered me watching trailers. But the
babies went down easily. I could have been I could
have been gone good at like seven forty five until
this fucking mic stand business happened, so so hopefully I'll
be there, but we're gonna be doing the Video Game
Awards breakdown and then I don't know. I don't want
to promise this, but right now there is rumors we're
getting a Supergirl and Avengers doomsday trailer on Thursday, so
it might be a double Video Game Wars breakdown and
then a bonus episode of that because that would be
pretty big. So it could be a very spicy, juicy
We already is a juicy week, but this could be
like the beginning or in the middle of the Shining
where the blood is coming through the elevator. That could
be us, but with the juice, you know.
Speaker 2: I hope it's juice over blood. That's a pretty visceral visual.
Speaker 1: Yeah. True. I also think in the New Year we
have to because in the Geek First Realm and Discord
which go down below, join the discord we're always talking about.
You know, there's a football channel, there's a wrestling channel.
The Gimmick is back this Sunday because can you believe
a Kirkland Johnson is retiring this weekend, So we're gonna be.
Speaker 2: Uh is it happening this weekend? That's funny. I was
week to the podcast that he was on today and
he was talking about one more show, and I guess
that's the one podcast we listen to, just you know,
one that he appeared on. I listened to it a
long time. Okay, John the Wrestler was what retirement? Yeah.
Speaker 1: The unfortunate thing is like there's a joke in the
wrestling community, which I agree it is, like John Scene
is an interesting guy, but he also barely answers any
of these questions. You know, he's like at times such
a rope, like they're just.
Speaker 2: Very just blake. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Joe Rogan, Like I'm sure he'll
get some stuff out of him. But then the problem
with the only thing I found with Rogan, which she had, God,
who's that guy on the comedian Tony Hinchcliff. Yeah, yeah,
I think so. And that's a guy like obviously like
him and I politically aren't really a line, but like
there's lots of comedians that aren't politically aligned that I
find are funny. Even on that podcast has made I said, man,
get this guy out here. Like I just was not
enjoying any of the jokes.
Speaker 2: Every time they got a wrestler on, he goes, I heard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I heard so. But that was the problem
to a joke. It's like there's so much stuff he
doesn't know about wrestling. It's just they'll talk about the
most basic stuff and Joe and it's fine, but Joe
just sounds like a simpleton. He's like, oh you do
oh what this? And it's like, well, we gotta explain
to you what a heel turn is. And it's like
twenty minutes just telling what, like say, he turned into
a bad guy. That's all you needed. Like that are
the problems, and like there's multiple things Tony, he was
like getting wrong too. I was so. I was so mad.
This dude just was at a show last week. He's
like yeah, I think it was so and so it's
like I'm not even watching weekly right now, but I
could tell you. But he's like, oh, I'm a massive
fan of the products, Like what it just I just
don't say that. I just say like, oh, I like wrestling,
but he's I'm I'm a master of the heels and
he starts to listen stuff off. It's like, no, man,
like I don't know what's going on there? But no,
I listened to too no I before we get the news,
like I I Joe Rogan I think is a great interviewer.
He just has some like I don't know, some interesting
takes that are a little iffy, especially the past couple
of years. But as the interviewer he can be the
best easily any given day, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I used to listen to a show all
the time, and then now it's now it's pretty much
just like what we A name pops up that I'm
interested in and I'll click it there, but I I'm
only like a quarter in, and it's just fascinating hearing
him talk about like his relationship with like painkillers and stuff,
which is like the complete opposite perkangle, and just hearing
like his wild story.
Speaker 1: Thirty doctors prescribe me ten perk.
Speaker 2: John Cen is like I have had a single pill
on any of my surgeries, Like he's just so clean.
So but no, no, no, it's it's interesting. I've really been
listening to like anything at allso theomen in school. So
it's like my drive to and from school, that's just
what I'll put on. So it'll probably take me a
week to get through it. But yeah, interesting one the least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember the last time I listened to him.
I feel like it must have been when a Wrestler
was on. I think that was about it. But honestly,
just with podcasts in general, I'm pretty behind right now
because I'm trying to catch up on movies for this
year and stuff, and I guess we can quickly transition
to what we've been watching. But oh, that's why I
said the discord. I want to at some point our
brand butter. I feel like we have to differentiate between
what's juicy and what's gasoline, right because as juicy was
becoming our thing, but then after the ah God, What's
the Top Secret retro, which I appreciated, people were dropping
the gasoline emoji's unprompted juice we are going gasoline was
on prompt this what the hell is this stuff? Shut
out for the people that don't know, I go check
out our top Secrets. So I feel like we have
to maybe on a breader butter originals decide what's juice
and what's gasoline, because they should be different, right like that,
you know, So I've been trying to think, like is
is news gasoline like something some big news, but then
like fun stuff, juicy, Like that's what I mean, Like
that's what you'd have to really get down the line.
Speaker 2: In my mind, there's like a pretty clear like if
you showed me comparing two different things, I could just
quickly be like, oh, yeah, that's juice or that's gasoline,
but like it's harder to just describe what the difference
would be. So that'd be a fun conversation.
Speaker 1: The feeling maybe that's a feeling, but we'll see. So, yeah,
lots of stuff on the feeds in the next couple
of week. We got Avatar. Next week, Kirkland and Taya
got that Me and Don't Go Fallout, and then yeah,
there's just a bunch of stuff. And even January we're
talking about a couple of trails. Today it's like screams
just around the corner, bone temples just around the corner.
It's a it's gonna be, you know, Kirkland said a
couple I think it was twenty twenty two or like
that best year yet, but it could be. We got
some big stuff.
Speaker 2: It was like the twenty nineteen in game year. I
think it's when I dropped it because it was like,
actually our best year.
Speaker 1: Yeah twenty two Yeah, at that time, two and twenty
two still the goat year, but that was that there
was some stuff coming that, you know, I think twenty
twenty seven could be problem. We had Starfighter and Avengers movie,
the Batman two, and we're gonna be talking about Avengers
movie in a second. But Kirkland, since last time, I know,
now you've done three newscasts, being a Weekly Geek, a
GV episode, and now this. Do you have anything to
add on the watching section? We got news today about
Avengers dooms. They able to talk about some rumors. We
got some venom rumors for the Venom Boy over here.
Hell yeah, we got some actually er goarn a little
the rings saying so I didn't even plan this. It
just the past couple of days just became very Kirkland
Center and then a couple of trailers. But before, as
always we get into the news, we talk about what
we've been watching, Kirkling, you've been watching anything? Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I finally threw on some Christmas flicks, which has
been nice. So a couple of days ago we put
up the tree as well as throw on Home Alone one,
Home Alone two. Home Alone one is like the staple,
watch it every year, but Home Alone two hasn't always
been in the mix. But uh, you know, at our
at our top secret gift exchange, somebody got turtle doves
in my house, which she wasn't super familiar with, so
we had to throw an Home Along two get familiar
with the turtle loves and the Pigeon Lady and all
that stuff. Holdlone two is like fantastic. It's just so
hard for me to like be sold on, and like
I'm kind of counter counting myself by saying, like, you know,
everything's subjective, you can all go that route. But like
Home Alone one is just so clearly the better movie
it to me than Home Alone two.
Speaker 1: Fuck Kirkland's Wi Fi has been a big pain lately.
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2: There, Like that's the whole Pigeon Lady thing is just
so fucking like, why what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: What are always the guy across the street? Yes, because
this is.
Speaker 2: Like the different version of that. It's like, hey, we
can't do the same old dude with the shovel, how
can we do it?
Speaker 1: I have like a guy in his sixties talking about
how he deals with adult issues. He just seems like
such a simpleton. It's just like, what like.
Speaker 2: A man who's lonely.
Speaker 1: I don't like bird lady. I'm somebody I make jokes
about the salt guy. I think there's big problems. Like,
don't get me wrong, everybody's going through what they're going through.
But when she's like, someone broke my heart and I
never trusted anyone ever, can just how you hold up it, lady,
Like that doesn't explain, like I had my heart broken
many times, and like again, maybe there are people out there,
but it's the way the worth of the story goes.
And I think I said it's on the pod already
because I tellbos. But my figure we watched it last
week or week or two recently. She says that like,
oh my heart got broken, I can never trust anyone again.
And now I'm out here and Kevin just dead ass, goes, well,
that's dumb that he's He doesn't sugarcoat at all or saything.
He just like you, just like embarrassed, like also there's
no one else around, but just an embarrassing uh, just
addressing of her, you.
Speaker 2: Know so and I so yeah, I don't love that
aspect to it. I also feel like, just like the
parents got this.
Speaker 1: Besides, I'm probably gonna spend it on stuff that at
my teeth in my mind.
Speaker 3: Occation for your generosity, I'm gonna let you select an
object from that.
Speaker 1: Gestion, just the way he most replayed too well.
Speaker 4: Two turtle doves, I tell you what you do.
Speaker 1: You keep one and you give.
Speaker 4: The other one to a very special.
Speaker 1: She.
Speaker 2: Turtle doves.
Speaker 5: How a simple of friendship and them.
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny at home alone too though
they do this beat where they make you think he's
a ghost, but then he comes back at the end
of the movie makes sense. Do you know what I'm
talking about? Oh yeah, yeah, Because Kevin gets this and
he walks away and he looks back and he's gone.
But then he sees a picture of mister Duncan. It's like,
oh fuck, that's the toil or what happened here? But
the end, mister Duncan's just speak with the police and whatever.
So it's a weird moment. But yeah, there's just some
about him saying turtle doves. It was like, not my
whole life, but it was one time, just as watchers
like what's going on? He says it a lot of times.
So luckily one year family for Christmas, people can see
the tree back there got me turtle doves and they
are my favorite ornament.
Speaker 2: So I got turtle doves now or shade has at
least on our.
Speaker 1: Journal and my friend will be friends forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you give to someone very special in your life.
It's like your best friend and like Kevin just gives
it to this crazy pigeon lady in the parks. It's like, Okay,
I don't know, you.
Speaker 1: Got a bunch of gifts for Christmas? What about those?
You know? Because yeah, it comes up from all those
presents from Duncan's choice tests, like here you go, here's
just a cheap like you know, ornament and whatnot. But
I will say, I feel like I like the traps
better for I think that's when I can for sure
say that, like that's fair top the other one, you know,
but like they can't get better or how do I
rephrase that?
Speaker 2: They they got to get better because of how good
they are, and the first that's why it's just like
the first is just a perfect blueprint for like what
the formula of a home alone movie is, but.
Speaker 1: Then the SI did the master build and again as
you in person, the first one does not have Tim Curry,
which Tim Curry is everything. That's one thing that's on
the first one that holds tape record a bit, and
when he comes in there, he's like, get out here,
a little pervert. That whole Tim Curry's face. My god,
everything is fantastic.
Speaker 2: It is fantastic. I just I gotta put it below
for that reason. Also, just like the parents are so
fucking stupid, like especially just their attitude of like did
we forget anything, Like nope, got Kevin this time? And
it's just like I don't know. I'm just I'm I
get it. They're rushed and everything, but just like my
mind is so blown and they're just like rushing through
this airport and like nobody checks on Kevin all even
though he literally yeah, last year they went through this,
and like they don't learn from themselves, and like I
just feel like the dad is like gaslighting the wife
at like multiple times, but it's like no, no, he's fine,
it's totally fine, Like you're you're totally worrying about nothing,
and then they end up fucking losing him. Again, but uh,
there's still fun watches, like it's still just such a
spectacle their film, but just watching them back to back,
it really stood out on like, Okay, yeah, number two
is just a lot lesser in my opinion.
Speaker 1: It's fun to be wrong.
Speaker 2: We're not going on. I don't think so. I don't
think sod at all. We like, we still got other flicks.
Shay watched The Grinch without me, but I really want
to watch it, So we're gonna watch that again, like
the Jim Carrey one still.
Speaker 1: Alive, Joe Peshing, Daniel Stern is still alive, Catherine Harris
still alive. You know McAuley, he's making a comeback. Like
I feel like now's the time. I wouldn't pizzabout it,
but I feel another one only within the next three
years they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Did we just talk about this? I don't know it
cast yeah, okay, okay, yeah, I was having a moment
there together.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, because they just had like their thirty fifth
year anniversary, didn't they.
Speaker 1: Something like that? So wait for that forty perfect well but.
Speaker 2: Like I heard, like David Stern, that's his name, right,
Daniel Stern. Daniel Stern he's like a recluse. Now I
heard he's like sixty eight or something, retired off in
the fucking in the yellow star are wherever.
Speaker 1: I think you do a home a cameo, but you
get new people that that would be fun, that we
should do that another time. Uh that maybe we'll talk
about it on after nine. I'll remember that. I want
to know who because people I say this to Emily
all the time, like people always worried about the kids,
but they feel I feel like they never worry about
the actual robber as well too, Like that was a
problem with Home Alone three. It's like, I'm not gonna
say none of these actors were good, but they weren't
up to stuff as far what pes She and Sturm
were doing. I feel like we'd have to like who
would be the two actors nowadays where I feel like
you get a cameo sticky of bandits there in prison,
but then new actors now so start thinking of that up.
Speaker 2: I'm not wonder who the good duo would be together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta you gotta get that there, and that's
where I will unless you have anything else you've been watching,
Uh act here, what are you on dansterren acted just
like a year ago, ten episodes in a TVs here.
Speaker 2: Since since then he's been reclused.
Speaker 1: He's like he is an upcoming project. I think you.
Speaker 2: Remember maybe he was, but my source, I gotta check
in on my source. Then on that one.
Speaker 1: Even did the home alone wet Bandit resources and responds
to Ken mccowsters threatening video.
Speaker 2: Okay, the fuck is that?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, let's move on.
Speaker 2: Uh Shan, I just started mighty nine, which is uh
the same people that did the Legend of Oox Macina,
so like Critical Role Team, this is just like a
different campaign they've done. Legend Vox Macina definitely one of
my favorite TV series of all times, just so well
made and so far loving Mighty nine. It's it's just
more of the same. It's like, I don't know if
it's the same world or not. I'm sure someone that's
listening to this knows that, but uh, I'll have to check.
But it's it's phenomenal. I think it's the just all
the same, like voice roster to just playing different characters.
Obviously they're playing their characters that they did the campaign
with and really really vibing with that I've never really watched,
like Critical Role, like them actually do their campaigns. But
man like Legend Fox macinat ten out of ten, if
out more than that, Like it's just such a perfect
show and like already in this, I'm just I'm totally vibing.
So yeah, it's coming out, coming out strong, and I'm
vibing with it, and I recommend it on Amazon Prime
very nice.
Speaker 1: Before we transition what we've been watching, because it is
a Patreon question, the only one we got today, but
it was fitting out the Christmas movies. I will bring
it up here from cocktail. Clay uh, he asked. He said,
if you could cross over two Christmas movies, what would
they be and why? For me, I think it's I
think we left money on the table by not having
Diehards Sean McClain meet Riggs and Murtaugh for releiefal weapons,
those characters would kind of just bounce off each other,
so well, not day goes by that. I don't think
about this. I think that'd be a great crossover. Even
though Clay, I think your answer is wrong, Like you said, like,
what was that? Just just to be clear, you said,
if you could cross over two Christmas movies. There's just
one there. I don't think. I think you're probably in
that camp that's singing diehards Christmas movie. Sorry, you would
be wrong. It's a movie that takes place at Christmas.
It's a movie you can watch during Christmas, like Lord
of the Rings and Harry Potter, but it is not
a Christmas picture. I would pick in what we're just
talking about. It's a tough time I had, but this
one's obviously everyone loves Home Alone, so I'm going with
Home Alone. But I'm also going with my personal favorite,
a movie I don't care. I will give ten to
ten stars, even if I know it's a guilty pleasure
jingle all the way. If we can get peak nineties
Macaulay Culkin.
Speaker 2: With peak oh man, Like that's.
Speaker 1: My way of like, let's say there's some misunder and
oh fuck man, Sinbad. Imagine Sindbad going through all those tracks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, God.
Speaker 1: Like that's why I say there's some misunderstanding, and this
time Sinbad and Arnold are the people that are like
trying to get in the house and kept that stuff.
But to me, the way it ends is like Kevin
becomes friend with Arnold, son Jamie and like they I
just have to pick the perfect ending where they're all
like together eating dinner whatever you like. Some like I
don't know if it is not to real memorilated, but
that's how I do. Is something like that where Kevin
has something or has done something cheeky and they're trying
to get in there, and I don't know, that's some
that I would have, Like I don't know if it
would make sense, but like the actual plot of getting there,
but again, like sindbad character was literally trying to like
like he was trying to kidnap a child in that movie,
so it's like it's not too far. And even Arnold,
like he's a pretty shady guy in Jingle all the
way when you really think about it, right, like he's
a good guy in that but if you if you
break it down just by character writing wise, terrible person,
awful father when the worst Christmas characters all time. But
I love him. I love that movie so much. So
that's why I go is Home Alone Jingle Away, absolutely,
I think, and Arnold's reactions do some of those traps,
like imagine him doing the Marv shaking one way skeleton
like and the sound bites Arnold's voice, the h you know,
like it would be it'd be Christmas magic. It'd be fantastic,
So love stop.
Speaker 2: I like your like your picks, good picks there. I
mean talking about what people deem to be Christmas or
not when it comes to certain movies. I'm gonna drop
Eyes Wide Shut as one of my Christmas movies. And
I'm gonna compo with The Night Before. Imagine The Night
Before guys coming across maybe like Michael Shannon's uh maybe
Michael Shannon's running these parties or something like who knows,
but yeah, just having Tom Cruise coming across these three amigos.
That could be some some fun stuff there.
Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to see if you'd if you could
get Nicole Kummen back, Like could you imagine if we
get announcement ever Nicole kimin Tonkruse doing a movie again together,
that'd be massoud.
Speaker 2: That be Michael Shannon's just like railing her or something
and be off screen.
Speaker 1: That's funny because there's one time I think he did
interview with but I think it's a book by thinking,
I interviewed Howards dur and stuff. Frock talked about how
like Tom Cruise was like kind of silently like trying
to pitch them on signed tall I should try and
find the clip. But he was doing in like a
really subtle way with like him and Judd d Apatow,
and he oh, yeah, that's cuz yeah, you just don't
really understand though, like and he just kind of kept
coming back to an eventure and they're like, we're not
really interested in this. Like he kind of stopped, I
should find the whole thing here because I don't want to.
Let's see try Okay, Okay, yeah, here we go. I
gott to bring this up because it's just the way,
it's just what we don't know about Tom Cruise and
the character he is. Oh man, okay, here you go.
It's only like two and a half minutes.
Speaker 3: He gets a call that Tom Cruise is now thinking
he wants to do comedy. The real comedy is what
happened when you went to see Tom Cruise.
Speaker 4: This is the movie.
Speaker 3: I love that you had a piece so bad that
you peed into a Snapple bottle to me with Tom Cruise.
Speaker 5: I stopped halfway up the driveway kind of in the
woods above Sunset Boulevard, and I peed in a Snapple
bottle in my car, absurd back down, I have to rap.
Speaker 4: But he was the every that man is determined.
Speaker 3: To make me look crazy because I'm costing the pharmaceutical
industry so much money because he's against us.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, the wording goes and it's like with scientology.
Speaker 1: He said, if you let.
Speaker 4: Me just tell you what it was really about, if
you let me just gave me like twenty minutes to
like really just tell you what it was about, you
would say, no fucking way, no fucking way. I remember
being like, I remember at the wording was.
Speaker 6: I was like, is that a good thing to be saying?
And I like, if you let me tell you about
Jewish people, you would say, no fucking way, man, no
fucking away. And then I remember there was this very
like loaded moment where he says this to us, if
you just gave me like twenty minutes to tell you
about this, you would say no fucking way, and be
a looking at each other, and I'm like, is he
gonna bite? Am I gonna bite? Are wen we come
out of this? Are we strong enough to have him
do this to us and not be converted? I don't
know if I am I have a week. I'm generally
a weak willed, we minded personally.
Speaker 1: That's basically the gist of it. So I just I
just love.
Speaker 2: Just picturing Tom Cruise doing that to him too.
Speaker 1: You'll say, no fucking way. You know, we gotta prepare
for that, kirkla and we ever get our script brawd
or something like that, we got to prepare for that meeting,
you know. And I would love to hear the pitch.
I would actually hear. I would hear the pitch. I
want to, like, not saying I'm gonna join it, but
I would love to see his full glory, like, hey,
twenty minutes, let's see what this is all about.
Speaker 2: You know at the end, I would.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, or he'd be throwing you off that if.
Speaker 2: You yeah, depending on how I respond to his pitch, yeah.
Speaker 1: I would have been watching. So I guess I'm not
trying to rub this in. So I hope you do
get to see it. But Kirkland Kill Bill on the
big screen was oh oh, it was jealous. The whole
Blue Leaves and Crazy eighty eights, like, the whole movie
was great. I've always loved to Kill Bill where I
also I've always really enjoyed To Kill Bill. I think
I can't remember where I ranked it on the retros
and the rankings. I think it was like at least
it's tough because we did the volumes and probably separate
like one was not one point was eight point five,
but like to watch them together, there wasn't intermission. But man,
this is now something that I think I would have
to give watching it together, I'd have to give it
a ten, like all spiced one on and man it's
it is well directed. But when you're seeing on the
big screen, like I said, the Crazy Eights fight, my god,
that was that. I I there was chills, My adrenaline
was pumping. It was. It was so crazy, and it
was super loud, to the point where I thought it
was maybe a little too loud, you know, I think
that the theater maybe could with like a decimol down,
But no, it was. I I do appreciate the movie.
I really appreciate. And that's the thing where it's like, Okay,
most times when you see great movie on the big screen,
it's even better. But oh my god, it was. It
was incredible. It was I was very happy because it
was still that four and a half hours. It's like, oh,
that's a tough time, but I wasn't tired at all.
It broke, it breezed right by. Yeah, like volume two
or the second act or second half offestly is a
bit slower, but no, it was. It was phenomenal. I
it made me want to rewatch like everything Tarantino again.
I know we ure not too long ago, watch Pulp Fiction,
School and Geeks, but want to watch Jenko. So yeah,
that was. If anyone hasn't seen any r fan or
if you haven't seen Kill Bill, I would recommend going
to watch that go ahead.
Speaker 2: I think I thought they were done after Thursday, but
it looks like they have a couple of showings on
next Friday, and that's good. I'm off in the day,
so I might go to the two fifteen showing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they didn't update it at that point, so
I and I think it did like relatively well for
like a re release this week. So is Friday actually
up now? Because I was trying to wait.
Speaker 2: To see over twelve to Yes, we did.
Speaker 1: Get okay, so when is Because what I've been waiting
for is this bad Boy is they're doing the Grin
Tree release. That's what I've been waiting for what.
Speaker 2: I'm so used to you. I just thought you're gonna
show a big black object on your fa No, I
don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't have any black objects.
Speaker 2: So Silent Night, Deadly Night in theaters.
Speaker 1: Is this a new Well, that's the remake we're gonna
get into on the retro.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why Maddy put it in. But okay, cool,
so yeah, yeah, no, definitely go see if you got
time Friday. I absolutely recommend. It was fantastic. I will
say because you might have heard about this. After the
credits there is that last chapter uh Fortnite Animated Specialty
directed don't fucking bother, don't do it. I didn't stay.
It was it felt like brain raw. It's literally like
set in like the Fortnite world. So it's like, I
don't believe this is a lost chapter.
Speaker 2: Oh it's an actual Fortnite I think you meant like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like some chapter about you know, some person
going to the bride. When I because at first I
was like okay, and it wasn't going well. I was
sitting there as the Homelander gift, I was okay, this
is not good when and I didn't. I got probably
three minutes into it when I stood up and left.
Was when they showed the pussy wag and they showed
the back of it and it was a picture of
a cat and it said a wagon. I was like,
cam out because like there's no way, like you can
say Tarantino directed this, but it's like really like Tarantino
would do that. And I get it because it's playing
in Fortnite that's for kids. But the second I saw
it's like, okay, this is a new to Tarantino, so
you can if you want. But to me, it was
not even the three minutes I saw it was not
worth it. Like I'm sure it's gonna be online one day,
but yeah, absolutely recommend if people have any interest, definitely
go see it. It was. It was fantastic. Nothing is
beats on the big screen there. Andrew Coatesworth says, how
are you guys doing that? I think we're we're doing well.
After you know, Tayor mess up my mic stand by
giving me the wrong piece of order, and then Kirkland laughed,
but then he got his windbreaker eaten by his dog,
so that's karma, and then oh it's you still have
it on there though. That's like a column that broke
at the half and you're still using like, oh, it's good,
I got a condom on but.
Speaker 2: Like it looks like the outside.
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. It's already online a premiere on
a Fortnite. There you go. Watch it there Gerkland and
that's it. But do I need to though, No, don't, No,
I'm not. I'm not gonna watch it was it was
not good. But yeah, so we got and Tay was
laughing to it the whole mic business. So he has
some bad carmera on coming around. You know. He said,
I had a friend coming over tonight. Maybe I don't know.
Maybe he's gonna train to make the moves on him
or mass and or something, give me awkward relationship. Who knows?
What else have I been watching? I've been uh, let's see,
I want I'm catching up on twenty twenty five movies.
So I'm so watching six f Under. I watch Oh
what fun that's that Michelle Fie for Christmas movie?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's some names in there.
Speaker 1: Is there There's a lot of names. There's Dennis Leary,
there's Donic cessa who I'm a big fan of uh,
there's Jason Schwartzman. There, there's Flicy Jones, there's Chloe Grace
Morett's right, and there's somebody else and obviously White Golden
Michelle Fife. For it's a if you like those people,
I think it's like worth a watch. But I also
don't think you have to like run down the streets
and bang on the door. You don't got to become
Arnold and Jungle or non jungle Man and a jingle
the way, because it's just it's all right. I like
it was a fine enough time. It just it's one
of these things where I feel that happens a lot
with streaming, where it feels like a VH you know,
like in the two thousands, so straight to DVD movie.
But now we have like great actors doing these right,
so it makes them better, but they're still just kind
of I don't know, they kind of go back forth.
It's gonna be like a regular comedy or kind of
over the top. It's really bad. Seg just Snow and
Ice Preassi got that going on. I watched dian I
Love Today with Jennifer Lawrence and Rob Passon. That was
really good, really trippy, I'd say, like, maybe not the
best December movie. It's all about depression and then through
your shit and everything like that. Jennifer Lawrence is phenomen
I gave it like a four out of five on Letterbox.
Jenniferlawrence is phenomenal it. I won't say it's her best role,
but I'd say it's like a top fiver, like she
was great in it. Passing is great too, but he's like,
he's a very like not little mouse screen time, but
just in comparison to her. It's definitely her story. And
because the story is he's the husband, but he's away
on work a lot, right, so he's just like and
when he's there, he's great. And Sissy's basic is great.
So no, it's it's very not very trippy, but trippy
at times. There's a few like, hey, what's real? What isn't?
What's happening? But I think it's a really good journey
on depression. Has not the I'll say just happiest of ending,
not spoiling anything. There's multiple endings to the movie. But no,
I think if you like Lim Ramsay's work, I was
a big fan of I Love. We need to talk
about Kevin Back in the day, so I kind of
watch whatever she does so and visially some really good stuff.
But yeah, Lawrence was really good and left me with
the kind of some thought provoking stuff going on. So
I'd recommend that. And then what was I gonna say?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: And then I watched J. Kelly. I'm not sure if
you heard about this, no Okay, Jake Killian, J Kelly,
J Kelly, The Adam Sandler, George Colooney Netflix movie.
Speaker 2: Never heard of it?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's George Colooney playing agent movie star. It was good.
I was talking about this Sam Green on our patron
because he gave like a two point five he thought
was very pretentious, and I do understand that because with
Noah Bomback's work, like the last movie, I kind of
felt that way. I can't remember it's the one who
he did with m Driver and Greta Gerwig, but I
kind of felt that way. But this one worked. The
middle gets like a little if he there's maybe too
many characters, or maybe not enough fleshing out of the characters.
But Adam Sander's great in this, George Clooney is great,
and I'll say kirkle Matt. It was sitting at a
four point five. But then the last five minutes happened
and I I gotta change this logo. I got the GV,
I got the trashy there the last five minutes happened,
and I was balling like a baby when this happened.
It was man, it it got to me good. Like
I don't want to say. I think I'll wait until
my end of the year when I do my traves
on trash. So you want to rank all my movies
I've seen. If people want to know the specific scene
and why I love it so much, wait till that
and I'll spoil a little bit. But it just came
out this week on Netflix, so I won't. But it
sucks because like I would sell people in this movie
with the last five minutes. I know that sounds like
a lot, Like, hey, watch this two hour movie to
get to the five minutes. It's not that the rest
of me, for me is good, but the last five
minutes just fucking rocked me. It's like a slow bill
keeps going going, and then there's just a moment. But yeah,
it's all about this movie star who's getting a lifetime
achievement wards, which is clooney and it's just I'll give
you myerspoils where he has this trivia or not sure
he has this uh this tribute and really no one's
showing up because he starts to realize like, oh yeah,
he got to this mecha of being this big star,
but he really has no family or friends. Along the way,
there is a phenomenal scene Kirkling, even if you were
watching one scene, a phenomenal scene with Billy kred Up.
He plays an acting partner that George Cloney had back
when they were kids, and it's like, I'll people, they
don't't hear anything. Skip ahead two minutes, but they go
to this funeral together and they bump and haven't seen
each other for a long time and they're leaving and
George like, oh, you want to get a drink? And
the first five minutes the scene is all great. They're
catching up and everything like that, and then all of
a sudden, Billy Creub's like, yeah, things are great until
you stole my life. And Billy Credup like turns and
it gets like not dark like a like hor d arc,
but just into like a he starts going off out,
you stole my girlfriend, you stole that role, for me
and Jay Kelly's like, I didn't do like it like George,
like I didn't do any of this like and he
slowly that kind of starts the idea of him re
examinating his life and thinking like, oh man, maybe I
was kind of an asshole to people along the way.
But Billy croud Up. He's only in one scene in
this movie, but he fucking rocks it. He almost steals
this whole thing. He's so he's good because he's like
really charismatic, really funny, and then he gets kind of
scary because even Adam sounds like you sure you want
to have dinner with this Guy's like yeah, yeah, it's
gonna be fine. It's okay because and then you're like, oh,
they're at dinner, they're friends, it's completely fine. But then
he does kind of turn into that like very bitter
like old like and he starts to get a little dangerous,
and it's like, oh my god. So uh yeah, it's
it's a really good scene. So yeah, it's a movie
that kind of surprised me. So yeah, I enjoyed if
it's it's more like an oscar bating movie. So people
like that check that out and then I think that's
I think that's everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Billy crowd Up's so phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Dude, he's so good man, would you.
Speaker 2: Agree thinking he's underrated?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, he's definitely if we were going to like maybe
that's a list one day, but I would put him
in for sure, because I feel like there's still people
that don't even know who Billy Kreudup is. Like you
say the name and they have no idea, you know,
but he's I don't even know like that because he
got recast remember for the Office Space guy. Remember in
Flash he wasn't even in that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I uh, he's he's so great. I mean,
I'm I'm a big defender of the Watch and like
very small comedy role, but man, he's so fucking good
in that movie. He's just very layered. I don't know
he can do The Morning Show. Never finished that show,
but like, he was so good in that.
Speaker 1: So he's the only reason I want to not the only,
but I still because my mom got Apple and want
to finish that because he was great in that, you know.
So yeah, No, he's a Swiss army knife. So uh
let's see, Uh how do you pronounce that? Name there,
kirklet me throw that to you.
Speaker 2: So meanly.
Speaker 1: There you go. George Cloton was near a campus. Oh
that's cool. I'd love to meet George Clooney. He seems like,
hopefully a good guy, that'd be a person that if
I meant he was an asshole, kind of break my
spirits a little bit. I just think like good guy.
Speaker 2: I watched the to Sit Down Adam Sandler and Timothy
Shallamy did together, and Adam Sandler was kind of talking
about George Clooney in there, and he just seems like
such a such a more chill dude than maybe I
expected him to be, because he's just like he's just
got like, I don't know, the super A list actor
like the aura thing, yeah, the aura around him. But
he just sounds like a like a cool dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and Andrew, No, we don't have time to
watch that short because we got we're already behind the
news things to Taylor, But that's cool. I hope hopefully
that's going well for you all. I'll check it out
after the fact, but I don't have time to react
to you right now because we got a lot of news.
But cost five K. We understand that with making films whatnot.
So we're gonna take our first ad break and then
we'll be right back. And we are back, all right. So,
as we said, it seems like maybe we're getting the
Avengers trailer at least teaser this week. It's supposed to
be like a minute fifty two or something like that,
so nothing too big or juicy. I think it's gonna
be very teasery. I think it's just something to throw,
not something. I'm sure we'll still have some good stuff,
but I think it's gonna be something that they just
want to make sure it's playing in front of Avatar, right,
gonna be this big opening they want people that don't
know if Andrews is there, don't know Danny's back. Here
you go, so we'll see. We might be talking about
this more coming up this week. I don't know if
they're gonna be in that trailer. I guess I can
even ask you that too. But so this has come
up from a bunch of Scoopers. It's back and forth.
As far as some people said it's the main storyline.
Some people say, oh, well, it's just Steve's storyline. But
I guess the idea is and I think Dylan Kirkland
or Dylan Taylor. Sorry, Kirkland talked about this like a
couple weeks ago on a week leag Geek as far
as there was this plot line of maybe Steve staying
with Peggy has kind of screwed And here's like, these
are all rumors, So if you don't want to hear anything,
then maybe I had mewed or skip ahead or do
listen to one on the cutouts. But I think it's
still all rumors on scuttle butt, and just like the
main plot that I think we'd learn pretty early on,
but maybe something to do with Steve staying back kind
of messed up some time stuff, and I guess there's
some stuff that maybe that messed up Doom's world, took
his family from him, et cetera. And then I guess
it sounds like that at least one of the storylines,
but some people are saying it could be the main
storyline where Doom is going to be after Steve Rogers.
So I don't know what that means of him going
to his world. I don't know if that means the
other heroes protecting him. I really don't know. And then also, uh,
there's some that put out that the which I'll show my cards.
I really don't like this. They said this is gonna
be a direct sequel to Avengers Endgame, which is just
like ker Gunn had an inquisitive face. I guess it's like,
I obviously will have Thunderbolts and other characters. I think
they're just kind of saying, almost for the ga It's
like you could have watched Endgame and watched this and
you'll probably not miss much, which to me, it's just
I won't say a slap in the face because that
feels like a huge amount, Like, you know, this is
just comic book movie stuff. I'm not that worried about it.
But if it is just like a direct sequel to Endgame,
that's disappointing. We're in the fact where you look at
Endgame something like throw a Dark World that only Taylor
Field loved. They even mentioned that movie, right, Like, That's
what I love about these finales. It can bring in
all these movies, even the lesser ones, and this timing
around it, it's like, I don't think they're tough Seger invasion.
I don't think they're talking about turnos now. Granted, I
think those are much worse than Dark World. So it's like, okay,
I get that, but I feel like they're going to
be doing this in a sense, so people that did
maybe skip out on some of these four or five
six things, which we've seen the numbers as it came
out today, Fantastic four was the lowest debut for any
Marvel movie in the Disney Plus era. So that's not
not great number. So it shows even like the not
the Disney Plus is free, but even just that hit
the button there is gonna kind of I don't know,
having some troubled water. And then with this Doom and
Steve thing. Before I throw it to you, Kirklan, I
just I just hope this trailer is great on Thursday.
This teasers great gets me going because I just have
very little excitement for this movie right now. I know
what everything's like. Oh it's a Vengers about time to
get there? Yeah maybe, but it's just like, okay, direct
sequel to Endgame. As I just said, that makes me
feel like a bunch of stuff we watch. It's not
pointless but really didn't matter, and the grand scheme things
and two and we don't know if is Danny playing
an Ironman variant that's Doctor Doom. Is he just playing
straight up Doctor Doom? Whatever it may be, We're still
just doing Downy versus Evans again. We did that in Avengers,
we did that in Ultron, we did that in Civil War.
We got a little bit about that in End Game
until they made good and we're friends again. I just
don't need my Avengers movie to be like reheated leftovers.
And I just feel like we already thought that could
happen with Danny coming back, but I feel like, now
just this more stuff that's gonna come down, like all
this plot lines again, I get it. I like, don't
get me wrong. I think that storyline is good of oh,
Steve stayed back and because of that that creates some
incursions or some shit. Great, But I think I'd be
much more excited if it was a different actor, right, Like, Okay,
it's Doctor being played by you know, killing Murphy that's
after Chris Evans, because it's like, oh, that's a new dynamic,
that's something fun. But just even though Danny's gonna be
playing a straight up villain and a new character, I
just feel like, I know, like we've seen how the
dance goes like, I just don't think it's gonna be
too much different, and who knows, maybe it's just a
you know, a storyline that's something there, but even as
a storyline for Steve Rogers, I just just doesn't really
excite me to my So, where are you with some
of the stuff that's circling around right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of surprising, but not I feel like
in retrospective it's surprising, but like kind of worth where
we're at.
Speaker 1: And just.
Speaker 2: Like pulling from the results of the previous phases of
Marvel and just the overall like temperature read of like
the Marvel fandom, I guess I'll call it for like
the general audience fandom. Like I feel like we're very
far away from where we were in the Infinity War
endgame era. So if they if they're using like a
buzz phrase like that direct sequel to endgame people that
have been completely checked out, maybe they watch one episode
of Miss Marvel and they're like, fuck, Marvel sucks now,
and then they hear that and they see, you know,
Chris Evan's face, they see Downy's face, Like I think
that works more on like a marketing general audience level.
So that totally makes sense to me now, but it's
just like, yeah, like that that statement, it almost is like,
all right, we fucked up. This phases wasn't as successful
and enticing and good as we thought they were.
Speaker 1: So now we're just like a couple of months ago,
there was that rumor. It was like, Anna, it was
in a Variety report, but it was, and I can't
remember who covered it on the cast, so I think
you might have heard about this. If not, I saw,
I'm sorry, but it was that report that Marvel's looking
like the next five or so years to recast those
big characters like Ironman and like Captain America. I remember,
and that's where to me, I think we just kind
of talk on. It's just a sticky point to me.
I think they just look at these new characters like, oh,
people don't like these new characters, we gotta get the
old ones in. It's like, yeah, I don't think that's
the complete case. I think that's some of it true.
I'm sure there's something like oh, I just really like
Steve Rogers and I don't need to see Sam's Captain America. Sure,
but I think there's tons of people that didn't know
the Guardians of Galax. There's tons of people that didn't
know Captain Marvel when it did come out, or Doctor Strange.
And I don't think it's I think it's a combination
of things. And I feel like they just look at
us and go, oh, well, people don't like Moon Night
or they don't like Miss so let's let's just wash
your hands of it and stuff new. Right. It's just
I just feel like everything we've heard and we'll have
to see until these movies, but I just feel like
it's something we've been here before. We've been doing geek
Ers for ten years, where we hear these scuttle butts
and then once the movie or product happens, we're like, oh,
all that things we heard were kind of on point.
I just feel like we're getting that point where okay,
they kind of want to wash their hands in these phases.
Seems like it's happening more more, especially if we do
get like a reset or reboot.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, no, absolutely so, yeah, I like getting back
to my point. I feel like it it seems more
like a big business decision as opposed to like a
very come from like a very creative space on like
how can we just tell our best stories with new
characters and new scripts and stuff like that. It seems
more like the decisions weigh on future success, which it
is a business at the end of the day. Their
movies have to make money. Especially it's not like a
low budget film by any means, none of these Marvel
projects really are, but especially the big Avengers ones. And
like getting back to the statement about a sequel to
end Game, like there hasn't been an Avengers movie since,
Like I guess you can make the argument with Thunderbolts
is kind of that, but like it's really not. It
wasn't labeled as Avengers before it came out or anything
like that. So yeah, if you watch the Avengers movies,
there's Avengers, Avengers of Age of Ultron, you know in
Finney War Like those are the Avengers movies. So yeah,
I don't know I statement is what it is. I
think it's definitely just coming from a war marketing business decision.
And then getting back to like my personal thoughts on
all of this, like I agree with you. I feel
like I definitely don't have the hype like maybe I
thought I would have. Like, as we're getting closer to
the Avengers releases. It was a big deal just hearing
Secret Wars. Fucking what was the first one? King Dynasty?
Like way back that that was?
Speaker 1: When did they announce those? Let me find out when
they announced King Dynasty? Was that? That was after COVID, right.
Speaker 2: I thought it was around that time, because it's like
before Wanda and everything, right, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, let's see, so no, it's twenty twenty two
announced yet yeah, or because let's see Marvel Studios. Yeah,
announced that in Secret War. Yeah, because remember that's what
we'll release on May second, twenty twenty five. We were
supposed to have seen that by now. Also we had
that strike as bit, but then we had that because
remember they were doing that stupid thing in my opinion,
where they're releasing the Avengers movies six months together, where
it was gonna be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't makes sense at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, The Avengers was in May Vengures five and then
Venders six was in November. So yeah, so twenty twenty two,
so after COVID that's when it came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, obviously, my my excitements has dwindled since then.
I am very much looking forward to this trailer though,
because even if it is just Downy Versus Evans and
that is what the trailer is, I'm sure it's gonna
be a good trailer. I don't know, I the movies
haven't been like stellarly they used to be, but like
I'm still I'm still a sucker for the MCU and
just seeing those familiar faces, and yeah, like even if
that is the pitch, like his world was, like more
problems came out of him staying with Peggy, I kind
of like that because it's just like it's not it's
if you showed me a list of potential options, I'm
sure it probably wouldn't have been my number one pick,
but like, yeah, why not? It makes sense. I guess,
like the every action has a consequence, and this is
going to be kind of falling upon that, building upon
the character that we've already kind of grown up around
in just the overall MCU's evolution. So yeah, sure, but
really sell me on the trailer, and I think that's
gonna be a pretty easy task, even if we go
to the movies, like and if it is Downy versus Evans, like,
I just want to have a fucking hype Avengers in
theater experience. Again, because it's been it's been a while since,
like I've enjoyed the movies that came out, like I
did really like Fantastic Four, but I haven't had like
a cap grabbing mule in your moment, you know, and
like that's what the Avengers movies that will kind of
bring away.
Speaker 1: Home in there.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, you're right, did.
Speaker 1: Nothing in Deadpool Wolvering give that to you.
Speaker 2: I guess. So yeah, okay, you're you're getting me with
some good examples here. Maybe I'm just too focused on
the big Avengers moments for that. So okay, fair enough,
you up some good points.
Speaker 1: So what do you do in a situation where okay,
let's say people come back, Because to me, it's like, okay,
we don't trust our characters or actors. We're gonna bring
back Steve Rogers, who has not been in the MCU
since twenty nineteen. We're not talking about Chris Evans as
Johnny Storm. We're talking about that character. It's twenty nineteen,
and then here he is back seven years later. They say, oh, yeah,
he's back in the adventure, and I don't know if
he's even if he's a main character as well. That
feels like to me, even worse, that feels like just
coming off the bench, like oh, you guys can't do it.
And I'm sure Chris Evans is fine, because you know,
he hasn't had the greatest luck with movies lately. But
I guess my thing is if you because I always
thought Steve would, I think we all thought Captain America
or Steve Rodgers would be in these movies, right, especially
Secret Wars. He's like, we're getting everybody back, and once
down he came back, I think we were all like, okay,
it's only a matter of time, especially as I'm sure
even if he had anything where he goes, oh, you know,
it was a great end. Once down he's back, it's like,
well he's coming back, you know. It's the same way
It's like when Hugh Jackman came back for Wolverine, Patrick
Stewart came back for uh for or or he came
back for Multi Versmanna's first, I guess, right, and then
it's like, oh, well he came back, I can come back.
I guess my thing is if everyone you know, these
people come back and they're playing their characters and there's
this you know, people love it and there's this big
success in a lot of that. Is it not like
what we've talked about with Wolverine, the casting where every
time you bring back Hugh Jackman, it where sets that
refresh point where if people come back and I guess,
unless they see Steve Rodgers head ripped apart, are they
gonna And maybe that's gonna be it. But it's just like,
I guess I'm two minds. If he survives, is the
general audience just not like, Oh he's back and I
can't wait to see him back as Captain America. And
then when they recast, it's like, oh, well, fuck this guy.
If it's more Sam, it's like fuck this guy. Or
to me, if they do just kill Steve Rodgers, I
don't like that at all. I thought they gave them
like a great ending to that character right there. I
know people can go all about and talk about how
life has its lows and highs and whatnot, but just
in this world and what that character went through, he
didn't have too many high Steve Rogers, so it was nice.
And if people say, oh, well that's a you know,
you know, time messes with you and or you mess
with time messes back they're the writers. They can do
whatever they want. Steve. You can always have a happy ending,
and they can have some fucking magic mumbo jumbo. But like,
what do you think if he comes back and the
GA's excite he's come back, but then it's like, oh,
what does he just pimp off again to the next Avengers,
Like in ten years after Secret Wars when they're like, oh,
well we need more people off the bench and it's like, well,
let's let's get you back in here Evans. Or who knows,
maybe maybe it's gonna be like the fucking Jackman thing
where Jackman came back and he's just back. Maybe Evans
will just come back full time. I don't know, you.
Speaker 2: Know, could that could very much happen. I think it
would be a mistake to just pick up the pieces
where we left off, like his like, this wouldn't be
old Steve, would it. That'd be great just old Grandpa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that that will have to kind of answer
what happened with the old Steve there. But I don't
think so. I think it will still be uh somewhat prime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I I think it would be a mistake
to not have him changed in some way. Shape or form,
like even Hugh Jackman. He comes back as Logan, but
like it's a very different logan than what we've seen,
Like it's even explained that's a different variant than what
we've known, and like a very like he's playing the
same role. Well not, he's playing a different version variant.
I guess of his own character that he's played, and
he's such a great actor, you could tell that he
is different than what is his previous logan has been.
I would want something very similar to Steve where he's
he's done some stuff. Maybe uh sounded weird the way
I said that, but he he he's just gone through stuff.
It's not like it's not like it's just pause where
we saw him last as Cap and then now we
hit play and he's in the exact same spot like
he years have happened. He hasn't been doing this for
a while, Like whatever it might be, I don't want
it to just be like he's been on vacation for
a couple of weeks and he's back, Like I do
want it to feel like it is a permanent change,
almost like how different Thor was in Endgame. Like obviously
that was a very depressed version of the character. He
wasn't taking care of himself or anything, and just very
very sad. I'm not saying I need to have that, Steve,
but like I want to see a different, different version
other than just oh yeah, we had no idea. So
he brought Chris Evans back and he's just donning the
role of cap again, because then it just really brings
down the big moments from when he sent off. You
could also make the argument that it's like, well, then
why are they bringing him back at all, because like
that also takes away from that stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I like it's a fair argument, but it is tricky
and in terms of like the general audience and stuff.
If they bring Chris Evans back, I don't think anyone
really cares. Like for like, obviously people will care, but like,
for the vast majority of the general audience, oh yeah,
Chris Evans Captain America. I like him, and they're just
gonna go see that movie, like they have been watching
all these other movies. So like, if this is just
advertised as a sequel to end Gave, like I think
that works for general audience and they're not really gonna
be too bothered about the logistics and specifics of Okay.
Speaker 1: I think it doesn't matter to them to get them
into the door, but I think it matters to them
once they leave that door, because I think if you're like, oh,
I want to see if Chris Evans back, that's great,
and then if it sucks, then that's the that's the problem,
right is imagine when we left No Way Home, we
are all like, oh, we could see more of these characters. Right.
If it would have sucked, it would be like, oh,
you know what, maybe they shouldn't have done this right.
And that's the thing where you know, patron producers. Soon
you'll get this. But we talked about this in full
and how what I've said multiple times and I still
stand by this, and God, God, I hope I'm wrong.
I pray everything I don't pray I have. You know,
I'm just being over dramatic here, but everything in my body,
comic book loving soul hopes that this is not a
Rise of Skywalker situation, which I feel like is what's
gonna happen. I feel like we're gonna get some great moments,
We're get some great city, We're gonna get some Adam
Driver Harrison Ford, Hey kid moments. But when it's all
said and done, I think we're gonna be sitting there
being like, huh, like that's what they did right now.
Granted though, if they do kind of hit the reboot button,
that's where it still kind of works, is because I
still think people will walk out with a bad taste
in their mouth. But it's like, oh, a new universe, Like, well,
they can kind of start over and maybe you know,
there was some mess from Phase four to six, but
we'll start a new and hopefully the X Men and
all this new stuff will kind of bring people back, right.
But I still feel like everything we talk about, I
just have to see all these pieces because off see,
all we're talking about is the castings. We've had our
own theories and speculation or rumors, right, so that's a
big combo and blender of a bunch of messes. But
at the same time, we talked about how things were
messy for us Skywalker and end up being messy, and
we don't know, we haven't had a movie since then,
so we don't know how that's gonna rectify. When it
comes to Banilor and Grogu, I just I just don't know,
it's it's just very interesting. Super bed Mike says, we
spent five years billion of Sam to accepting he can
hold the cat mantle, and now we're just bringing back
the old one. Oh absolutely, And I think they're gonna
take that away from him or they'll do the whole
like the world needs two. Captain America's like that type
of bullshit, Like, yeah, no, I agree with you, Mike,
but I think that's just the I don't think that's
Matthew's fault. But you look at like Brave New World,
What a nothing movie, you know, Like I think I
gave it like a six or something like that came
out this year. Barely remember that thing, what you know?
Yeah February right really yeah, where like like you said,
for me, uh, you know, that was bad news about
F four. But I really liked F four and I
obviously that is newer, but I still can remember multiple
set pieces and moments Thunderbolts I can as well. And
Captain America his first movie is Captain America is just
it's a lame sequel to Incredible Hulk, you know, and
that shouldn't have been the case. And also we talked
about that that's in an error where they're pushing a
lot of content, but still that's they still to pardon Matt, Right,
So what I was gonna ask you because just in case,
like I said, it's looking more and more likely we're
getting the trailer just for a few things. Do you
think they show Seve Rogers in this trailer?
Speaker 2: Oh, has like there been build up a buzz around
Chris Seven's joining or it's.
Speaker 1: Just oh, he's in it, Like it's not official, but
he's in. I'll tell you he's in it. Everybody is
saying that, But like.
Speaker 2: Has buzz been building up? More and more people are
talking about it, asking about it.
Speaker 1: Asking him, Yeah, he always just says, I know nothing
about it. I'll say there's buzz. I won't say there's
buzz for him being in this trailer, but like he
there's buzz and people know he like the hardcorees know
he's in this movie. The GA doesn't. Again, I don't
even know the GA knows Robert Downey's back, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean with that being said, I feel like, no,
then I feel like the first trailer like we got
the uh oh I am Victor end credit. But beyond that,
I haven't seen Downy, but you know with the trailer yet,
so I think it would be saved for just him. Uh,
not that he would be the only one in the trailer,
but just for like the return character.
Speaker 1: It's just nothing but past Iron Man clips and then
it takes up the masks.
Speaker 2: Dude, it's on back and black owing or some others.
Speaker 1: They I re record it. No, I'm with you. I
think you you can save, like the movie is still
your away, you can save Evans Like this to me,
this is just the announcement trailer now granted, like but
it's like you said, you had Downy, so it's there.
But I guess if you want to drop the shoe,
if you want to have something where it's downing something else,
Evans would be that if I were to ask you,
because there's rumors about him in there. If if I
were to ask you, let's say one of them's in there,
and it's either Chris Evans or Tobe Maguire, who do
you think has a better chance of being in this trailer.
Speaker 2: Between those two in this trailer?
Speaker 1: If it let's say, let's say we had a scooper
coming to a said like one of these two are
for sure in it, What do you think would be
more likely? I'm making up a scenario. Everybody, don't read it.
I'm saying yeah, because they won another big moment, right like,
because Danny's a big moment. But if they want one
more like, hey, well you're watching Avatar, you're thinking, like
we just saw X, Y and Z.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty close. Like for me right now,
thinking believability wise, percentage wise, I still think it's slightly
leaning Chris Evans. Yeah, but personal I think I would
give it like fifty one percent Toby because that would
be crazy hype because it is different than like what
we've seen in the past, like we've seen Downy and
Evans's face off together and on the big Avengers screen
or I guess that was an Avengers was a Captain America.
Speaker 1: Ye, just those two interacting at all, pretty.
Speaker 2: Oh man like that that would be everyone's talking about
this trailer. I'm just downing Tobey maguire back like that
is that is stuff that would get even like the
general audience buzzing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, for me, it's just a question of because
I don't think he's gonna die in doomsday, so maybe
they want to do the secret one more time. I
just feel like they didn't do it no way home.
And if they don't reveal McGuire for this one, they
got to do all of these fucking movies where they
reveal and he's like part of the promoter material, right
like I feel like you like they like they they
Sony and Company. They held back for noih holm. They
could easily dropped that shoe and anytime I got more people,
offset surprise happened. So I still think they're not gonna
show McGuire because I've said this for a decade now
and I'm gonna keep saying it. You put Hugh Jackman
until McGuire and a poster together that's billion locked, just
a billion locked, probably could be even two billion. So
that's why I feel like you save McGuire here for
another surprise, and then Secret Wars, you do a bunch
of promotion of the old Guard people and maybe unless
they don't get along, who knows, but everybody like you
need to do do fucking McGuire and Jackman doing interviews together,
like on the press two like hit that nostalgia of that,
you know, So I think you can say McGuire and
I think also too, is if the reports are true
that they want it to be a direct sequel to Endgame.
Steve is more applicable there right, where Toby is not.
Toby's just like, Oh, that's it's really cool. We're Seve
is more. That is a bigger universe conquens right, And
it's a bigger conquence for or consequence for people that
have seen Endgame of like, oh, last time we saw him,
he was with Peggy, right, so it's more about, oh shit,
what's happening there? So, uh, Toway's gonna be in less
than five minutes of doomsday. They ain't putting that in
the trailer. I'll agree with you that he's on the trailer,
but I don't, at least from what we've heard, I
don't think it's been less than five I'm thinking more
ten to fifteen is what I'm what I'm thinking there,
you know. So, but yeah, we'll see I hope we
get that trailer Thursday, and when we talk about it
could be lots of fun or maybe it's maybe right
away we're like, oh, man, I don't know, but I
think they're gonna I have no issues. I think the
marketing and the hype they will bring it. It's just
gonna be the execution of when we sit down in
about a year curkling from now and we're talking about
of entrant doomsday and to see what happened with it.
So who knows speaking of that, I will or less.
Did you have anything else on that?
Speaker 2: Nope, that's it, okay.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get your thought on this. So
this is a cetier rumor. We probably just wanted to
bring it up because you know, you are the Venom boy.
So this rumor going around if I can pull it
up because Twitter fucking messages suck. Now let me go
one more time. Holy shit, this fucking ex Twitter just
just awful. Kirkling like the messages now trying to look
at them. Oh right in So this is take this
with a grand salt. In post Secret wil Wars, Sony
will revisit their spinoff films and make more entries in
the Venom franchise as well, only this time it'll be
set in the actual MCU and be an actual MCU production.
Tom Hardy will not be returning as well. In regards
to the casting, Marvel Studios wants to cast someone within
the same age as Tom Holn and preferably an unknown
like Tom Holn before his Spider Man casting. So how
do you feel about this that? You know, obviously we
had that run of the Venoms, the Morbius, the Cravens,
and then like I think it was like the week
after Craven came out, like obviously Sony didn't announce it,
but a bunch of Scooper, like top tier scoopers like, yeah,
it sounds like this is the it. Sony's polling the shoot,
you're gonna get your Spider Verse films. Then after that
their finger out obviously too. Don't forget Kirk, and we
got spor Spider No War next year.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: So as was this on the idea of them actually
being in the MCU makes me think this is not true,
which that's what I ask kerkicle bats are But yeah,
how would you feel about that and something? Yeah, if
you think there's any validity to this. But as far
as okay, Sony wants to get back into it, they
want to do their spinoffs, but this time they wanted
to go from the MCU, so you know, kind of
what they didn't do before. And if it's an MCU production.
I don't know if that would just be in the
universe or if it would be similar to Sony where
they are working with Fi King Company to help make
the movie and that's in there, and then also the
casting if they were go with the same thing as
Tom Holman as kind of a lesser known person.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. I think it's like s Bub's comment,
like it it seems less likely if they're pitching they
want to be in the MCU, like it is a
big locomotive going forward, which is the MCU. If you
can catch right on it, like you're gonna be doing
pretty well, although you know, I guess maybe not with
the previous projects not doing super super well financially. But
I just think that they would want to just stay
in their own freak show realm because that's just what
they've been doing, and when one freak show comes out,
it just seems like they double down. They're like, well,
we're just gonna keep going with our projects, our spider flicks,
so like believability, and like I guess on the other
side too, like Marvel, like if if I think they
would be down to get Venom in there, just because
it is like the business side of it, like that
is a money maker right there. The Venom ip is
just is just super super successful, Like those movies are
billion billion dollar movies just because it's like popularity the character.
I so, yeah, I don't think people are necessarily going
to those movies for like the cinema. It's more so
just fuck yeah, we're gonna get Venom biting people's heads off,
and just just that that character. Just seeing that character
on screen, so believability. Lower percentage out there. But if
we do, if we are setting up the canvas of
a Venom project renewal, like new actor and whatnot, I
would want them to do probably probably not Eddie Brock,
like just because we just had that, even if it's
a different world. I would love to have like a
Flash Thompson version maybe maybe just what well, I guess
we have a Flash.
Speaker 1: Thompsons say, do you wanted to be that Flash Thompson?
Speaker 2: Never mind? Then I take that back, I kind of
forgot about our Flash Thompson. Oh never mind. Then yeah,
I guess we just do a different Eddie because we
haven't had an Eddie right in the MCU.
Speaker 1: No, no Eddie Brock yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, you can also just do a different character.
It doesn't have to be necessarily Eddie Brock, but Harry
Harry Osborne, Yeah, I guess that's a version. Did you
do something with like no, actually they wouldn't go that
where I was gonna say, like JJ's son j Jo
and Jameson's son, but that's that just seems like too
distant kind of where we are.
Speaker 1: Dyan, who would you want is venom? If you're in there?
Eddie Thompson A right, fuck Osborne flash Thompson like, don't
get on. Tony Rovio always a good actor, but I
just I don't want that, Like what was.
Speaker 2: God what he does and what he does is venom?
Speaker 1: You know, not vo I don't. I've never personally loved
the Harry Osborne as Venom storyline. Thompson got very strange.
Got Eddie Thompson like, because us if you played it
this way right, because obviously they left the symbiote there,
if you play it this way. Secret Wars is coming
out twenty twenty seven. Let's say the earliest we get
a Spider Man five with Tom holland Fuck Roy at that.
But let's say the earliest we get is twenty twenty eight,
which I doubt right because if if Tom Hall is
in Secret Wars, he's gonna be filming. And I I
feel like now he's taking a bit more breaks and
being a bit more picky with projects, which you should.
But let's say twenty twenty eight, whended venom come up?
That came out last year? Right? I think the last Venom,
the last chance? That sounds right.
Speaker 2: Fuck, he was probably this year or something.
Speaker 1: No, it was last year. It was last year because
they did the Venom and then Craven, Right, that was your.
Speaker 2: He was checking out dance.
Speaker 1: Let's see Pluto twenty four.
Speaker 2: You're right, so Plutos's hair October?
Speaker 1: So because what so? Yeah, so that'd be four years.
I think four years is a good enough break for
the Eddie Brock character, right, you know. Uh, Pluto says
I never liked him, so it gives him enough excuse
to kill him all after. I don't know if I
want to get Harry killed Maurice because of that, but yeah,
I guess so if you want that to happen. Uh,
And then let's see here, Mike says, uh, vulter Kin
finally returned to his world. And finally Morvious from the
Morvious World. Yeah, I wonder where Michael Keaton is up to.
They could just ignore that entire subplot of something to
a Spider Man.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it's Eddy Brock and I hope they
just go the route of like what what said there?
As far as you're going unknown, you find the role.
I think you can. We've never gone the proof like
the true proper. It's like the Dark Phoenix thing, right,
We've gone a couple of adaptions of it, but it's
just never right. Alsously got Spider Man three, which in
retrospect now is nowhere near as bad as the comic
films we've got since then. Uh, and then but still
not like a great adaption of the Venom character. And
then what they did with Tom Hardy also not a
great adaption. So it feels like we're like Dark Phoenix,
where we're just waiting for them to hit the nail
on the head here.
Speaker 2: And I just hate that comparison the Dark Phoenix. It's
true though, right, I've been so bad. Yeah, no, you're right.
And then like the more recent Dark Phoenix stories make
the earlier ones not so bad. So it's kind of
the same thing with the Venom storylines.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think what's worse. I think tech
I don't really know. I think technically the Dark Phoenix
ones have been worse, because.
Speaker 2: It probably is. It's just been so distant, like so
distant from when I've seen those, So the Venom scars
are a lot like closer, more recent for me. The
wounds don't feel scabbed over and healed yet, where it's
like Dark Phoenix. It's like a little scar on my
skin now. I don't really think about it, but like
the Venom, that scab is still there and it's the
starting to flake over.
Speaker 4: Memory's memory is bring back your I won't forget you, buddy.
Speaker 1: That is the last scene of the Venom trilogy.
Speaker 2: Curtain that's crazy, and we're in the I don't even
know where I was recently, at the mall or something.
That song came on and I had like an out
of body experience because I'm like, where do I know
this song from? And I'm like, oh, right, looking over
my should I see Tom already? There won't forget you, buddy.
Speaker 1: Let's see, Venom doesn't live up to the potential. Dark
Phoenix is the Tragy every time.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think you're right, Pluto, Like I think
Venom that even Inspiermin three, I'd say, Okay, there's at
least he's like a villain and he's fighting Inspider Man
right where Dark Phoenix. Yeah, I think is a lot
to be desired there, So I think that's worse, but yeah,
I would be down for it. I think there's a
possibility of this being true. I know that, like I
supposed to like, oh, because he thinks it's in the MSCU,
that makes it not true. But I just feel like
Sony might go, well, you know, we don't know what
to fucking do with these live action things, which even
though like the answers right there, like as it's always been,
either it's Phil Lord and Chris Miller or just like,
don't get the fifty shades of gray writer and directed
like like they are. Like I'm not saying those people
can't be talented. I'm just saying if they want to
take it very seriously and have some acclaim, then spend
some money on getting somebody that's like of actual note
directing or writing wise, and make like a go of it.
Not just out whatever. It's more based the same thing
with Craven Right. To me, it's other than the first Venom,
which I feel like they were trying a bit. It's
never felt like that since then. It's very rinse and repeats,
so it's just like, you could do this, you can.
It's the same way. It's the dumb shows like Inspire Noir,
the Nick Cage Show where he's playing Ben Ryley ands
Peter Parker why, like why does it matter? Like, oh, well,
you know Tom Holland's name Peter Parker, So we can't
do that. So it's like very odd stuff. So I
do think there's part of them that have given up
and they're like, hey, let's just partner with the MCU.
That's what people want them to do, and that's fine
me and Venom is the Venom is the route and
now it's it's just kind of funny how we're kind
of going I feel like there's other things we've talked
about they're just kind of going back to basics. But
with this, it's like we have Venom the movie and
we're like, oh, it's kind of weird that we're not
starting with a venom in Spider Man movie and spinning
off from that, and they do a whole trilogyan and like,
you know what we're gonna do Now, we're gonna go
back and we're gonna do Venom and Inspiering movie, and
then we're gonna do a Vanom movie. It's like, well,
this is what we just suggested the first go around.
You know. It's like the same thing I suggested with
clay Face and Batman. It's like, I don't know if
we should do a clay Face movie before we got
our DC Batman, you know, but we're doing it, so
I don't know. I like the idea. True. The MSU
has not had the the smoothest of roads lately, but
I still trust them any day over what Sony would do.
Like I saw what Sony did with the then A
movie three times. I won't forget it, buddy, And like,
unfortunately money, Yeah, they made money, and I luckily there's
only a few MSU projects that I could say, Hey,
are that bar where all of Sony's projects, those three,
More Vious and Craven, which I guess I shouldn't say.
I've still never seen. That's like one of the only
comic movies I've ever.
Speaker 2: Kind of forgot about that was last year.
Speaker 1: Also, literally there's a clip at eron Taylor Johnson because
I saw on Twitter. I had to send it to
you guys. Right when he smells cologne and nice perfume.
The woman's like, I'm not wearing any and the guy
like looks at him. He's like she was gonna find
out some point. I sent it to you as is
this from Craven? Oh yeah, yeah, so I've only seen
that scene. I've seen that that Ryan.
Speaker 2: Billy Part three says.
Speaker 1: Venom Last Dance was legitimate slop. I felt like how
you were watching the Taranteal Fortnite. Sure, yeah, no, Venom
Last Dance was. I still felt the way about Carne
as well too, but it's it wasn't a good time.
So yeah, I'm down for this. I'm sure get a
lesser no.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: The reason why you can get a lesser No One
too is if you do the movie, people enjoy them,
they'll go and see him where with Venom as a
soul movie before you put them in spreadm And you
do have to go get a Tom Hardy actor right
to get people in the door. But if you can
spin the character off from Spider Man, then great, it
works out. I just don't know what they're gonna do.
And I hope if we get this Venom storyline, it
is a full Hey we're doing the Venom story, not
oh it's Venom, but also doctor Strange's here, and also
you know, Iron Man's back or Steve's here, like we
we need it so little kind of venture and hopefully
that it's more street stuff too, you know, so.
Speaker 2: Do we though? Do we need the solo adventures? We
just got that with the Sony stuff.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, like just a Spider Man Venom story,
not like how in this upcoming movie we hear punishers
in it, Hulks in it, Elaine is in it. Like
I know, Sony always gets an MSU character. To me,
that's when I hope they would pull the Daredevil thing
and happily hopefully have as a street story and Matt
could kind of be the guy that's like, hey, something's
up with you? Or even imagine magine Matt with the
senses and he's talking to Spider Man and he can
just sense that something's off with him, right, Like if
you could me have Matt be that hero that kind
of is juxtaaposed of hey, something's out do they probably
wouldn't do that. They'd probably get one of their A
list actors to do that. But that's I mean, not
Venom solo, just that I want the solo Spider Man
versus Venom sort of thing. So yeah, anything else in this.
Speaker 2: No, I yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our next ad break and we'll
be right back. All right, here's one, don't know where
it is controversial not controversial. Uh so it has come
up to say this is Seatier, so it's not. It's
not a confirmed thing, but then other Seatier people have
backed this up. Also, we always cover Sea Toier news
because we can turn into a tier news. The hunt
for Gollum. Obviously that's happening. We don't know where it's
gonna be. It's gonna be happening at Netflix. It's gonna
happen in a paramount, but it is happening scheduled I
think right now twenty twenty seven. Maybe they bumped, but
I thought it was twenty twenty seven. But anyways, that's happening, right,
We got any circus he's coming back, you know, Director
of Venom let there be karg Any Circus directing this movie.
He's coming back to direct and voice Gollum, and then
Ian mccollen's coming back, he em. Elijah Wood has not
said this, but Ian McKellen has said on his Behalf
that Elijah Wood is coming back, and just recently, like
I think a couple months ago, they asked Ego Morrison
about this and he was very open, like, yeah, I
could come back, and I love that character. Yet da da,
And it sounds like now that he might not be
coming back. This report didn't specify if it was his
choice or the studios, whether it be money or timing,
but it sounded like that was something they were thinking about.
But now looks like they are recasting this character Offesutly,
Vigo is much older than he was when Hunt for
Goal would be started. Obviously, he's not that the air
Gone character has slow aging. Vigo has aged. They also
said that they don't know if they could do like
a Hobbit situation where Kirk. I know you haven't seen this,
but they brought Ian Home back as kind of like
a narrator at times. So you got to see Ian
Home original Bilbo and then you got to see Martin
Freeman and his Bilbo. So they did say that could
be something on the table or maybe you see older
Ara Gorn speaking of the story or speaking of something
and then you get a younger actor. But yeah, how
do you feel about this as far as Aragorn might
be getting recast for the story.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I am totally fine if we go this
route of changing up the actor. I don't know, I
don't have like hype's not the right word. I feel
like I don't have like a lot of you don't
have hype. Yeah, I guess I don't have hype or
like I want to say, like expectations lower, but like
I don't want to just sound like it's going to
be like, oh, it's just gonna be garbage when it
comes out, Like I also don't want to be just
pessimistic about it. But I feel like my I'm a
little bit distant with this specific project. It was kind
of fun just speculating about, like, you know, the returning faces,
whether whether it was Vigo, were we talking about Ian
in here?
Speaker 1: Also, well, Ian's supposed to be back. It sounds like
Elijah's back and obviously Andy's back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So just like that idea was kind of fun,
but like, I feel this project seems so far away
that like the more we go on without like concrete
updates on like what's going on with this project makes
me think that like, well, Vigo is the first one
to disappear from the project, Ian's probably next, Like well
for to stick around this whole time. Yeah, so I
don't know it just for whatever reason, I have those
thoughts in my head when I think about this project.
And then when I when I saw the article, I
was like, Okay, yeah, I think I'm okay with that.
I think it's a young or what's the better way
to say, it's yeah, I actually yeah, I'll say that,
like like the younger Vigo in the movies, I feel
like from where we are now, it would just it
would seem yeah, pretty jarring to have I don't know,
a d H Vigo or something in these scenes. If
he's the protagonist or the main person that we're following,
it might be too much. I'm totally okay with just
a recast and give a younger actor a shot and
let him show us what he's got, whether it's gasoline
or juice. We'll decide that at a later point. But yeah,
I'm totally okay if this is the route that we're going.
But it doesn't really change hype, It doesn't take away
from it, doesn't really add to it or anything right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'll agree with you there. I think it's
the only thing I can agree with you there that
it's not changing my hype because I'm already low on this.
I've said this before where I just we went through
the Hobbits. I know Peter Jackson's there and helping him
produce in this time, but like like I said, Andy
as a director doesn't make me that exciting, and I
just feel there's a lot of iffiness that can happen
in between the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. That's
when the story's set, right. I just I don't know.
And even though we joked about this, we're on a
Patreon exclusive episode. We pitched like our five Lord of
the Rings movie, we pitched a goal movie, but it
was a little bit different. I think that I guess
I need to know the size of the role. If
it's If it's a smaller role, then I don't think
it's as bad if it is a supporting role. Even
I think we're up for some trouble. And I'm not
gonna say trouble. I just think it's gonna be weird if,
like you were saying, like, oh if we lose other people,
but what if we don't. What if it is Ian
McKellen and Elijah and all this stuff, And when an
actor hasn't passed, it does feel a little weird that
everyone else's back. But we've recast this one act, right,
I know what happens all the time, but especially because
I think they're trying their best to evoke the nostalge
of that original trilogy, right, they want the people that
love those movies to come see this. Well, already you're
losing air Go And I don't know, like, is a
Hunt for Gone that far from Fellowship? Like I know
it's in the book, but I mean like win the
Fellowship forms, No, I think it's.
Speaker 2: That should be pretty much yeah right there.
Speaker 1: So to me, and I will always go back to this.
I know Taya's gonna you know, wear sir and you
know talk about him and the fifty other people that
want this movie. You know, with Solo too, But we
saw it with Solo. We that movie. We saw a
guy that was close enough to what Harrison or like
Hansol's age would be, and that guy was nothing like
Han Soul. Look vibe everything right, but it's like, oh,
it's the same guy. It's like, no, it's not. It's
not the same guy at all. And especially with that,
this is oh, this is the guy that becomes Harrison Ford.
It'd be different if Hey, we've rebooted Star Wars and
this is our new Hans Soul. You go, hey, this
isn't like Harrison Ford, but he kind of has like
a bit of a different take on it. Right. That's
where for me, we're and you're right, we can't rec
We can't do the d aging on Vego because watch
The Irishman. I love the Irishman, but when Robert de
Nario is running around, he's a sixty year old running
around as a thirty year old doesn't make much sense
because his body's moving slow, but he's supposed to be
in his peak condition. You see him kicking a guy
and he's moving slow. Right, So all those times when
Vigo's fighting Ucaia ORCS sixty, Vegle can't do that. You know,
even with a stunt double can be a little murky.
So that's what it's like. Okay, if you recast with
the rest of the group, I feel, I feel you
put a lot more. I guess what I should say
is you do the daging. I think that's setting up
for failure if you recast with everybody. Look, it's given
me the thumbs up because my mic stands like this,
it's fucking weird. Taylor fucked up my MIC's stand. You
fucked him up, you bastard.
Speaker 2: And even though when you're getting tired, not yet, but even.
Speaker 1: Though when you recommend me kirkled I pulled it up
the Amazon Alotto thing, and I don't think it's that
same one. I think it's a little too big. So
I got to try and find the new. But yeah,
I have to show it. But what no, No, I
don't want to get another wrong screw. So I think
you're you're fucking you do the d aging. I think
you could be fucked. You do the recast, because if
you get all the nostalgia back and you get the like,
who's this guy? You know? And I think if they
were to say, hey, we're recasting every character, there's so
much less pressure on this guy. Plane Airgorn where now
it's like, oh, you're the only one recast. I just
feel I would not take that gig. That's not a gig.
I would take his actor. I guess it could be
your breakthrough, right, but I just feel like you are
It's like, look at all their rank. That's what he
was in a couple of things, and like he's in
some stuff now. But like we can all say it,
that hurt his career, just the same way this man
has said it himself. Jesse Eisenberg last year said me
doing Lex Luther hurt my career. There are times where
you do something you think, oh, well, big Bay check,
a big franchise, whatever, because I know somebody like, well
I take that role absolutely, I do that. Yeah, I
get it. I'm talking to a fucking real, like working
actor that's out there busting their ass and trying to
think about their future career. I would tell person, no,
don't take this unless it is I guess, obscene amount
of money and you're in dad or you want family needs,
then absolutely a job's job. But I mean like, if
you're not in that situation, you could turn stuff down.
I just feel like it's tough because I feel like
Vigo reminds me of Harrison Ford, where it's like Viwa
is like a specific vibe. He's not just like an
actor like, oh, you can get anybody. It's like Vigo
Morrison has a specific vibe that Ara Gorn. It's just
I am just so scared of who they could get
and what they could do and just get like the
very pretty Ara Gorn. Like, I don't know, and Mike,
I agree with you where you say I'll take a
new actor over bad CGI any day, I agree with you.
Don't get me wrong. I still think One, I guess
I just don't want to, like think this movie is
a good idea. But two then I say, do it
without this character. Obviously the characters in there so of stuff.
I just think, like I agree with you. I just
think either way, you're kind of screwed. And I think
I'm going back to what I said months or a
year ago whenever this was announced that I know it's sacrilege.
I know people don't want it, but I think at
this point you either just remake those movies or say, hey,
we're doing new Adventures Lord of the Rings in the Universe.
We're not gonna remake the trilogy. But we're gonna do
now stories and we're gonna recast these characters, you know, everybody,
because then I don't think there's as much weight on it, right,
because then what we're gonna get this guy who everyone thinks.
Maybe I'm wrong, right, but we could potentially get a
guy that everyone fucking hates and the things they suck
as air Gorn, And then you could get Ian McCown
Elijah with where it's like, ah, this isn't like what
it used to be, right, Like, because Ian McCown a
lot older, we'll see Ian McKellen's still great actor. I
just every time I hear an update of this movie,
I get more and more worry. No, we're wrong. I'll
be there. I think it's gonna be an interesting review.
I'm predicting it's gonna be a very potentially disheartening review.
But maybe I'm wrong, right, And that's the thing. There
could be some guy out there that screen test, because
that's the thing, Kriklin. They're not reading the book and
being like, oh, we got to get a guy that's
like air Gorn. They are going we gotta get a
guy that's like Vigo's airworn. So that's where it's that's
the tough thing for me, and I just like godspeed
to any actor who yets this role. I think they
would be smart to go, at least with an unknown.
I don't need to see like Adam Driver or Chris
Pratt like something like that, Like I don't need I'm
not saying Chris Pratt would actually get the gig, but
I just thinking that joke because he's Garfield, Mario and stuff.
But it's just like I think with this whole movie,
they're walking on glass or egg shells. I guess not
glass yet. And just even this news, I'm like, okay,
I am with Mike. It does make sense to recast
like overall on the whole, But then when you take
us a couple of steps out from it, and again
though I don't know if this, if this guy has
like one or two scenes, then I don't think it's
as bad. Then it's okay, that guy didn't have the
vibe and you move on. But if it's a thirty
minutes or plus screen time, that's where you're opening yourself
up or him for some some scrutiny. You know you
don't want to you don't want to be the guy
because they said, look at Solo Donald Glover. Everyone fucking
loved that guy. He was, Oh he's a great Lando
all in Airnrich he didn't get that same love, and
now it's like, you know, just kind of around. So
super Mica, before I go to you, he'say, it's like
the Linon King remake where they brought Beck, James ro
Joon but recast everyone else, just with more returning actors.
I agree. And that's what to me if they said, hey,
we're doing a Lord of the rings Aventure, we're recasting
everybody but Golm because Circus is wrecked in the movie.
It's the voice, and say, Okay, that's fine, you can
keep Circus. You know, it's like j Jon and jameson, Sure,
keep him as JK. I think it's just weird when
it's like everybody's the same but not this one character
who's still or this one actor who's still alive.
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, that's fair. I don't really know what
else to add to that.
Speaker 1: No, am I right wrong? I guess I can say that. No.
Speaker 2: I think you're completely right, especially the comparison to the
movie that some people will say exist. Some people say
it doesn't like, especially if you have like clear examples
of that, Like we've already gone through this a character
like in a project that the vast majority of people
absolutely love and they absolutely love it because of the
casting attached to it, Like that's a very very hard
role to fill. Even if you have an Oscar level
actor be the new guy, like it just still won't
have that same hutzpa. But then you get the unicorns,
like the Donald Glover playing playing Lando, like like he
fucking did it and he killed it. And I think
that's the vast majority of people think that even like
the old old people that probably love you know, older Lando,
they can they can see that magic in there. So yeah,
more vast majority of the time, I think you get
this recasting incorrect. But like I don't know, I'm kind
of like with super Bad MIC's comment there of just
like taking the new actor over bad cgi d ah,
you know, like any day of the week. But we
also don't know what the screen time would be for
this character, So that could also change my opinion because
if he's very if he's not in as much as
I think he would be, even though it's like him
hunting gone, So I think it would be a big
portion of the movie if it's not, and if we
do replace the character, and I'm like, really, we couldn't
get Vego to do this minor amount if he.
Speaker 1: Was in there for two scenes? Why don't you yet Vigo?
Then right, and yeah, get a stunt double for the
action and shoot around it.
Speaker 2: Especially like what you said, if we have Ian, if
we have Elijah Wood, if we have all the main players,
what happened with Vigo's contract negotiation to have him not
come back for a small amount there, So Bill two
billion is an Oscar winner.
Speaker 1: I don't think he is. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's just been in those big critically
acclaimed roles like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, has been. There was Green Book. It was a
History of Violence, not name for three Oscars, so he's
not one one yet the Mercia Win Oscarcia is a
double so all.
Speaker 2: Two for could have been three for if we ever
got bladed, but that'll never happen.
Speaker 1: No, of course, Oh so I was wrong. It wasn't
for History of Violence as Eastern promises. That's a great movie.
And then Captain Fantastic Stick and then Green Books, so
three times, but.
Speaker 2: No win there three time nominated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see here, bah bah bah bah. I got
to bring this up quickly because I forgot to put
in the notes. Where the fuck is it? Oh my god,
bear with me here, there we go, all right. Euphoria
season three. Yeah, you forgot about this.
Speaker 2: Uh, the more updates I get, I'm like, why are
we doing this?
Speaker 1: Do you want me to lay up the set updates?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably, like I kind of remember it. But for
anyone out there that might not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't a rumor. This is Samm's in the
show runner, show creator, writer director confirms the euph Your
season three cast storylines rue. She's in Mexico and debt
Delori try and find ways to pay her back. Jules
is an art school anxious about her future as a painter.
Maddie is in Hollywood working as a town agency and
drug juggling her own side hustles, and Cassie and Nate
are engaged living in the suburbs. Cassie's addicted to social
media and envious of other lives. There's also this is
a rumor that she may have a OnlyFans account going
on there. So yeah, that's what's happening right now. I
think they did say mount Apputel's character as well as uh,
she's like in Hollywood. I think she might be bouncing
back and everything around like that. And hang on, I
just have to see because Mike said that he should
have won for green Book. I gotta see if this
is a hot taker or not. There, Kirkly, and give
me one second. I did like Green Book. I know
a lot of people don't. Let's see when all right
because you hate Rammy Mallick in Bohemian Raap City, uh yo,
Willim de foud Attorney's Gate, Kirklele's movie from where he
looks up, That's what I guess from Oh okay, Yeah,
Bradley Cooper starts born on Christian Bale Avice and then
Vigo in Green Book. Yeah, i'd have to disagree with you, Mike.
I would go I'd still go bail and Cooper over him.
So I just had to go back there. But before
season three, it's happening, Kirkling. Continue, you're saying you weren't
feeling too jazzed about some of the stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's uh from what
I'm hearing on like what you just told me. Distance
from the previous season. Like it's just all these little
factors are adding up to kind of deter my excitement
and hype for the show. But like, I'm sure I'll
be there curiosity sake, especially just the people that are
in it still, Like I'm sure that they'll be really good.
It just I don't know. It just seems like a
far jump from where we were from last season. And
I feel like, not only is it a far jump,
like literally like characters are in different places of the world,
there's time skips now, but also just been a long
time from when I was watching that show, and like
of course, like the tragic stuff with like Eric Dane
battling als. So it's just like knowing that he like
he wouldn't be there now. It's just like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't know. I feel like he might
have filmed his stuff before his condition got okay, I
think he isn't I think he isn't nounced. I think
he might have filmed some stuff before his condition took
a real bad turn, so they get some of it
in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I absolutely loved him and his character in
that show so much so that that'd be sweet. Obviously,
you know, thinking about that guy, he's fantastic, absolutely loved
him in Euphoria, And yeah, so that's where I'm at
right now. You know, get a trailer, get a little
bit more sauce, and maybe get closer to that release date.
I'll probably be feeling a little bit different. But who knows,
who knows. Well, we'll see what happens, because it's like
big actors of like big quality actors are in this show,
so like, come on, let's not funck this up, guys. Like,
even if it sounds wild of like setup of the
plot of what everyone's doing right now, I just feel
like with the pieces and the people involved and like
taking from like who we had making like season one
two to now, like I it should still be good
even if the setup isn't exactly maybe what I would
have wanted initially. I don't know what I wanted initially though,
because it ended in such a crazy wild way and
it's been a long time since these like thirty year
old actors that we're pulling off eighteen year olds are
like five six years older than they already were from
that original show now, but there's a time skip, so
maybe that'll help.
Speaker 1: Well, you probably would have wanted them to be together, right,
Like that's my thing where.
Speaker 2: I think it's the big thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And that's where it's like I think we
obviously we watched the show, not these characters aren't all
together all the exact same time, right, We just kind
of think about that way. But to me, this reads
as the whole build up was, Okay, we want to
do season three, and obviously great casting director, all these
people from season two to three or before filming, right,
Sidney Sweeney's and Day especially Jacob Elordi now and other
people too, right, but like those three in particular, just
two different wavelengths, right, so that happens, and even Hunter Schaeffer,
she's in stuff. But it's like, okay, now, if you
get this back, it's probably gonna be more expensive, gonna
be harder to do because their schedules. How do you
do this? And that's why for a while I think
we're all like, you know what, that's probably not gonna happen.
We're all like, Okay, cool, maybe it doesn't happen. And
I've always argued you're foria season two ends and way
where it could just end there for the most part, right,
there's a couple hanging threads, but it kind of ends
in a way where old that's the end of high
school and not everything works out, but your your life
moves on. Even Rue is like in a better place
where this storyline of oh, she's in debt to LORI.
I guess that could be in the past, but it's
like that was some of my least favorite stuff in
season two was Rue, like gonna be kidnapped for drug
trafficking and that type of stuff. Like I wasn't there
for that show. You know, I got breaking bad. I'm
good on that, right. But that's the thing where Okay,
they announced season three and they announce the cast, it's like, wow,
they're getting all these people back. To me, if majority
of the show is and all all of these characters together,
which it sounds like right ruin Mexico, Maddie and Hollywood
Nate and casting the suburbs, it sounds like they're all
spread out. To me, that is a lot less exciting
if you just get them around every once in a while.
I think Sam did say there's gonna be a wedding episode,
and I don't know if to me, is is that
the start or the finale. Like, to me, what I
could see is you start off with the wedding and
you're trying to see them all get to the wedding
and how they got there, and that's how you can
tell those stories of what they've been doing. And I
think that's a way that you could tell, Like I'm
just thinking of like let's say Kirkle and they got
all those actors together for like a week and like, hey,
let's do this wedding set piece and shoot everything we
can here and sprinkle that throughout the season instead of
one episode were they're all together. Or maybe that's the
reverse where that's the finale and they're building on that hype,
right is the falley of seeing everyone together again? But yeah,
I think that's the problem for me is I loved
all the inter linking storylines and this doesn't sound like that.
Just sounds like, Okay, we can do season three. We
can get these actors back, but we can't really have
them together. But it's not like the MCU where it's like,
oh well we'll shoot them on separate days and cgim together.
They're not doing that. They're doing well. We can't really
do X, Y and Z, so Ru's over here in
a storyline that I don't care about jewels in art school, sure,
but it's just the same thing. It's like, well, I
want to see Jewels and Rue interact, right, like I don't.
A lot of these pitches sounds like if they would
have said Euphorio is over and here's the spinoff shows
of all these characters. It does not sound like this show.
And maybe bro, maybe this is just like how we
meet them ball and eventually they do all link up again.
That's just what we're hearing, right, But even so far,
these storylines by themselves are not that Maddie and Hollywood fine,
but like to much to Mike's point, the last thing
Sam said it was the idol, and the idol was awful,
and that had a lot to do with, you know,
musical acts and that the biz and drug use. So
it's like, oh, Maddy in Hollywood, that doesn't interest me
at all. Nate, Nate's always a great I hope dates
a great character. Like he's just a fucking I don't know,
like a catter or a powder keg. So whatever he's
doing when he's out to like, I think we're gonna
get good stuff there. And I think Jacob Lord is
like even a better actor than he was when you
forore it was happening. So I'm I'm pretty fine with
I just feel like whatever they give Nate, they usually
got good stuff there. The Cassie thing, it's like like, oh, right,
Like I don't know how do I I don't know
how I can how I can say this, right, Like, Okay,
of course men and woman, lots of people when they
see Sidney swow and don't get me wrong, of course,
when people are on the screen and good looking people
and they get naked, it's great to see, right, But
for me and this, I think this is a comman
that I'm trying. So if people think I'm trying to
be misogynistic, I'm not. I'm at the point where I
don't need to see Sidney Sweeney naked. Now. Don't get
me wrong, I'm sure like it'll always be great and
great to see. But I mean, like I kind of
understand why younger actors do that, or why even the
Catsy character do that. But these storylines of oh, she's
an OnlyFans and because that was she's gonna be naked
a lot in the season. It's like cool, but now,
you know, political stuff aside. When Sidney Sweeny's on my screen,
I know she's a great actress and I want to
see her doing those great things. Right, So this whole
like obsessed with social media and only fans, I get it.
That definitely is a commentary to stuff that's going on.
But also it's just excuse to show Sidney Sweningy's tits
for eight episodes and it's like, you know, great all,
but it's like that's not like that should say something
where to me, Like, if there's an actress that's not good,
it's like, okay, all you have is them just doing
naked stuff and being very racy. Okay, sure, but like
that's not why I watched Sidney Sweeney anymore. Right, It's
because look at that episode with Nate with the bathroom
door when you try and break in. Look at the
episode when she's drunk. You know, Like that's where it's like, Okay,
she can be a versatile actress given the right script.
But it's like, oh, she's obsessed with social media, she's
an only fans. It's like all right, Like I just
I feel like I know we're getting that just to me,
we'll have to see it, right. I guarantee the scenes
with her and Nate will be challenging. I think the
scenes then married and like whether they're going through counseling
or fighting, I think that's where you'll get the good acting.
But her storyline, if it's not including the Naves stuff
doesn't like that sounds like stuff Sidney Sweeny could fucking
day walk through. Now, you know, it's just I don't know.
I have to see this all. I hope it's just
them kind of giving some breadcrumbs, and I hope it is.
We do get a lot of the characters together, but
if we don't, then I think it will be regarded
as a, ah, you know, maybe shouldn't done this. But
at the same point, do we think that's not gonna
do well? Euphoria season one and two did great, and
now these people are bigger stars than they used to be.
So it's like I feel like I do like, could
do double whatever you like. Yeah, I think whatever records
Euphoria had will easily be broken by this season. We'll
have to see at the end of it, right, But
I think they're kind of playing with house money right now, so.
Speaker 2: For sure, Yeah, no, I completely agree with majority of
your points there. I feel, you know, to sound like
that sleeves ball to defend the Cidney Sweeney only they're
hard workers. The hard workers. I feel like though, like
that kind of fits the character of Cassie, Like she's
been very insecure with herself and like obviously very beautiful
character you know Sidney Swiney in the role, but like
also just like that's been like using her image as
like her weapon, Like it's fit the character, Like that's
kind of her one thing that she like can kind
of feel confident about that that she has that, So
like if she is addicted to social media, I feel
like that is kind of where Cassie was actu. She
was always just trying to maybe think of herself and
like a what's the best way to describe like her
her character struggles, Like her her mental issues in that
season is like a confidence thing. And if you I
think plenty of people that are addicted to social media
kind of have that because they're they're living like curiously
through other people that they're seen on social media or
maybe just constantly comparing themselves to people that they're seeing
on social media. So like that there kind of fits
the character. I think of Cassie and yeah, you know,
if she's if you know, she's a beautiful lady. It's
established in in the first two seasons very clearly. And
if she's getting like I don't know, money and attention
by doing stuff like that, by using her body to
profit off of Like, I feel like that does fit
the character. But you're not wrong. She is a fucking
phenomenal actor and like she could day walk her way through.
Speaker 1: All that episode. Maybe you know that's my worry. It's like,
I'll make two episodes because I what do you imagine?
She's probably not gonna this is gonna be a secret thing, right,
Like would Nate know about this? Like, I feel like
there's a prime episode of him finding this account, right yeah,
and losing the shit. I feel that has to be
the route we go down.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also just picture like him not really caring too
much about her to begin with.
Speaker 1: So I'm selling on jewels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Man, It's funny the more we talk about
these characters and just kind of like where they're at,
I'm like, man, I actually am very excited for the season.
Now there's there's some freak shows in that show and.
Speaker 1: Even if the show ends up being bad, we'll be
there and it'll be fun reviews when us. Yeah, look
out in April. We'll be there Sunday night. Dylan says,
fucking how that gift is loud? I know, we gotta,
I gotta. I'll make my fucking Christmas mission to re
edit that gift and bring it down. Uh, Dylan says,
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all right, Kirkland, So we got the Bone Temple, we
got ready or not? Here I come Game of Throwing
Seven Kingdoms. And then for myself, I'll be talking about
the Boyles final seat, the Boils, not that show, the
Boys final season quickly, but yeah, what do you what
do you think about some of these trailers.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, where do I want to start? There? A
Game of Thrones. I feel like the show's been very
back burner, simmer, low temp for me this whole time.
This is the first time I watched the trailer was
just today, and it feels like west Rows. I don't know,
I like it. It's got the it's got the like
the lens of a west Rows show. Obviously hearing like Terminal,
the Targary and stuff like that, like it just by
hearing all that stuff, and even just like the set
designs and stuff like it does feel like a west
ROAs show, even though like the levity of it feels
a lot lighter than I think, what what was it called?
House the Dragon? And then obviously the original show was
really feeling like I still feel like it'll be mature,
but it definitely feels like a different tone and I'm down.
I don't know. It looks good. I think it's gonna
be like just well made. They really know how to
make these Game of Throne shows feel like immerse the
viewer in these shows, and that's something that Game of
Thrones and House the Dragon did phenomenally, and I trust
that they're going to do it again here. This guy
seems so familiar. I feel like I've seen him in
something before, but maybe not. Maybe he's just got that
very generic protagonist's face to him, and I'm okay with that.
So yeah, I'm not like ten to ten hype, but
I'm pretty excited for this. I love pretty much all
these Game of Throne shows. Well, I guess it's only
been House the Dragon since, but I absolutely loved it.
So I'm down that we're doing another one, And like,
arrow wise, do you really know kind of where we're at,
I haven't really done my source material.
Speaker 1: I think it's sat in the trailer one hundred years
before Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2: Okay, well there you go. Was half watching, clearly, But
for what I was half watching, it was it was
really good.
Speaker 1: I am on the opposite end. I've not I'm on
the opposite end. I've not seen much of this as
like my first full trailer, I think, and yeah, I'll
have to see, you know, we'll see what happens with
the tas baby because he's like, oh, I don't know
if I'll take too much time off and if he doesn't, great,
because I don't know how much. I want to overview
this show, the Levity.
Speaker 2: How's the Dragon?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Didn't you jump onto that one a week?
Speaker 1: I did because Game of Thrones ended sucked. I was
out and then watched House Dragon and I got back in.
So if Tar's a round, I'll watch it. But that's
not the seriousness of Levity and the jokes like this
guy doesn't look like like this was not not working
for me. I think maybe it's something that could work
better in the show, but in the trailer, I don't
know it Definitely yeah, looked like Restros had that feel,
but the actual content did not feel did not feel
like And maybe that's it. Maybe because I see Mike
he says the novels are based on really good Maybe
that is a different section of west Ross, because I'm
sure it's like Star Wars and Marvel where people go, oh, yeah,
we need our different genres or slices of that. I
really don't. I need just the same old serious Game
of Thrones, just with different people with different eras. But
this I don't know, So I'll I might give it
a chance, at least the premiere. If Taylor's not, then yeah,
I'll buckle up. I'll be there, but it's yeah, I
don't know. It was just I just think I felt like,
for this being these second Game of Thrones spin off,
I didn't feel the poll like, oh I gotta watch this.
But yeah, like you said, that was the dragon I
was if you want to when it started then it
hooked me in, So maybe this will do the same.
And this one's only six episodes, so uh, well to see.
But yeah, I was not jive and complete with the trailer.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's fair. What was I gonna go?
Oh the joke where he's like in it's like the
very start of the trailer when he's talking to whoever
and then he like leaves then he goes out the
wrong door. He's like, oh not this way. That was
like the start of the trailer, and that's where I'm like,
oh god, yeah, this does this feels goofy. This is
dopueling regular and even so, yeah, I guess I agree
with you to that extent. And when he at the
end he's like just shouting at the people in the stands,
it's like, is this really what Nightship is? Like? Like,
you know, ship, I butchered the line but says something
along those lines, and it just goes to everyone kind
of look at each other. I'm like, man, this guy's
not seeing Game of Thrones. Nobody fucking gives a shit
about honor in this world or anything about that. And
if this is what the whole show is kind of
set up to be, like, it's okay, yeah, I'll be there.
We'll see how this goes. So I think it was
more just the idea of getting on the Game Throne
show helped me just overall with my mi excitement of
the trailer here the other one that I was gonna
go to next unless you wanted to know they're ready
or not too. I never saw this movie originally when
you guys were hyping on it and telling me to
go see it, and then I think a year or
two ago, I think, actually, yeah, this year or last year,
I saw it for the first time and really really
loved it. It was really really fun. This is one
where I think the trailer it was okay, but like,
I'm just excited for it because like, yeah, I like
more the same. I love Elijah Wood, let's get him
in there. I like some of the characters that are
gonna be hunting our bride here she has a little
compatriot now her sister. Yeah, so I think it's gonna
be a fun time. I don't know, I didn't really
need any crazy trailer in here. I thought the trailer
was okay. But I'm just kind of excited. This is
the thing and it's a good formula for a fun time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was here on the Oppenheimer's side again.
Speaker 1: The Appenheimer's side again. I think I just this has felt.
I like the directors, love SAMR. Weaving. I'll give it
a chance theaters. I'll wait for reviews. I think for me,
it's just that first movie ends and I go and
they announce what we're doing a sequel, Say, okay, how
do you do a sequel to that? Right? Just the
way it ends pretty pretty closed book? Or yeah, closed
closed book? I think so right, sure, closed book. The
two ways as far as oh, well, you beating hind
and Seek, just open up a whole different game. And
it's only just I was like, all right, that's the
best we can do. Is so because you survive this game,
you go to a different game, all right, fine, And
then the characters like doesn't matter, not gonna play kill me.
It's like Okay, we won't kill you, but we'll kill
your sister. It's like, okay, and I'm gonna say, who knows.
I watched that first one if they mentioned his sister,
didn't feel like she was a big deal. This was
also a wedding party or wedding. It was a wedding, right,
so it's like she had no family, kind of assumed
she was her own. I'm sure they're gonna get some
fucking quick backstory about other stepsisters and one dad didn't
love X, Y and Z, and they're gonna get there.
But for me, this whole trip just felt like super lazy.
Look like it'll be fun enough the actual stuff, but
just looked like more of the same. I just kind
of hope because I feel like that happens a lot
where they'll be like, oh, I don't know about this.
How do we do a sequel to this? Right? And
I see they're like, okay, you got me. This gave
me a lot of which was a movie I once
they despise, but a movie I despised. My time watching
was another simple favor, which was a very tough watch.
You've never you haven't seen the sequel yet.
Speaker 2: I never watched it. Nobody's convinced me to watch it.
Speaker 1: The first one, oh yeah, one don't ever. It was
one of those where it was like, man, I made
a grave missus right Love the first one I thought.
I was like, okay, love movie, but too much like
I think it's like really good. I had a really
good time with.
Speaker 2: That first movie, I agree.
Speaker 1: And the firs the second movie I did not. So
I just hope at least the good times were there.
But I just felt like the same way with that movie.
It's like I don't know how you do a sequel,
And then when I watched the sequels, like, oh you can't.
You just need some more money and you guys want
to go to Barcelona and Amazon Pride and paid for it. Cool.
Same thing here, it's like, okay, this guy got the
part of waves from the screen seven job, maybe you
just need to get the gig. Let's do this. So
uh ah wait, No, I think I know I might
be messing them up. Actually I'll take that. I don't
think it's him, So take back whatever I said about
the director. But this trailer wasn't doing it for me.
I'll need to hear reviews. If I who paid money
for this at the theater, which I want to. I
prefer to see movies in the theater. I just also
don't want to waste my time, you.
Speaker 2: Know, So yeah, nobody wants to is. I don't know
where I was gonna transition for that, but Bone Temple.
I definitely want to rewatch twenty eight years later because
I haven't since the theater watch. Even just watching this trailer,
I'm like, oh gosh, I don't even remember specifics. What's
going on with these Jimmy's and what's going on? Yeah,
so I like the trailer. I like, I'm already gonna
see this. I really like the first film. Well I
guess it's not the first film. There's gonna be a trilogy.
Speaker 1: Right, depending all this does, I think?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so I like twenty eight years later a
really great time. I like what was said up there
led me some big floppy alpha so uh yeah, baby
he's back, and yeah, just just what's this actor's name?
I want to say? Rise is a Rise Ray finds there?
I'm thinking of someone else, thinking of doctor Connors from
a Maiden Spider Man. That's what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1: What's the actorsphens? Whatever?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, how's the dragon guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ha been them last dance. Actually, yeah, playing
not the lizard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, playing not the lizard. But well, was I even
going with that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just his characters, Ray Fines. I really don't know
what else to say. It looks good. I'm down. I'm
there day one, so yeah, keep it going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I really enjoyed this trailer. I'm I'm
it's funny too. People are starting to actually see the
movie now they screened it, because that's what it's talking
about before in the opening. This movie's out in January,
so it feels like it's oh, it's next to that.
It's like in a month we're gonna be seeing Bone Temple,
so it's not that far way. So, yeah, you excited
for Alpha.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm so excited for Alpha.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh but yeah, I I'm curious about all. I
want to learn more about Ray Fine's character. I thought
that was a great character in the last one. The
Jimmy's looked like after Sinners. I'm I got high supply
on Jack O'Connell. I'm a Jack O'Connell stand now, So
I'm excited to see it. And a good thing is
not just like always playing another villain that's the same type.
Just looks like it's like a variation of Okay, he's
he has a villain performance again, that's gonna be something different.
I'm excited to see what Spike does with these Jimmy's
and where goes there. We'll be excited to see whatever
killer Murphy gets in there. So no, I just think
the dynamics of even though we it's just been one movie,
just seeing the Jimmy, you know, the main Jimmy Jack
Connell and then Ray finds it feels like a crossover already,
like it's it's weird, you know, it's just it is
just a sequel. But the way those movies ends, it
feels like the Doctor you may never seen again, and
then like this Jimmy is supposed to take you a
whole new adventure and it's just the thing of okay,
how do we get it back there? Right? Does a
character get hurt in Spike? Even though I fixed Spike
would register these people are probably a threat, So why
would we want to tell them about the doctor? Are
they already heading to the doctor And Spike is going
to keep that to himself and maybe help him out.
I don't know. And then this whole thing, which I
honestly was not expecting at all. I just or at
least right now, when Ray finds someone, oh, I think
I have a cure. Didn't think that was gonna be
a storyline going into twenty eight years later too. I
thought it was kind of like, Okay, we're stuck now,
you know, like it's been twenty years later. I think
the whole cure option is gone. I think we're just
gonna be sectored off and that's it. So to me,
I was taking a back like, oh, yeah, I'm working
on something and maybe the alpha and I wasn't sure
if he shot the alpha or the Alpha was standing
there not attacking, and just all the stuff. And Ray
finds somebody like, oh, I wonder what they see. So
there's some good stuff there. I'm excited. Obviously, it's not exact,
not the exact scent, it's not the same director, it's
not Danny Boyle, but I do like someone needed to
cost his work, so I'm hoping it's good. But yeah,
I've heard some reviews that are pausitive but say it's
gonna be another divisive movie. So I don't know what's
gonna happen, and same thing. I don't know what they're
gonna do with the killy Murphy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, is.
Speaker 1: That all the trailers that you were also watching The Boys? Yeah?
The Boys. Yea'm very excited for this. There's a couple
things I'll just say, Like with Butcher, I feel like
in the finale they left a certain way and in
this trailer just felt like we're back to status quo.
So we'll see. But uh yeah, it's one of these
things cricklingly you might have heard through the Great five
when we review these shows. I think this is a
show that was getting better, better, better until that fourth season.
To me, that was a big step down. So now
it's like my height for season five could have been
at a different level at one point, but now I'm
kind of going trepidacious. So uh yeah, this I'm like
in the story Alliance, it PREMI much looks like it's
we're gonna take down Homeland or let's do this, let's
see what happened, So I'm gonna trust them that season
four was almost like a setup season in the finale
or maybe just a stumble and they're gonna get back
to like I have more game tape on them to
trust them, then I have not to trust them, right,
So I'm gonna hoping they land these storylines. It looks
like there's a couple of storylines we're kind of finally
seeing through, which is good and I'm always excited to
see more Anthony Star's Homelander because that is one of
the best tap performances. I'll say a whole time I
think that is he is a tremendous character actor. Well
I'll take that back, and he's not a character actor,
and that's he's done a great job with said character
and made this character feel like a real life thing. Obviously,
this is gonna get very political, but yeah, so far
what I'm seeing it, it looks good. That's coming out.
I think also in April, So I think in April
I was talking to you guys about this, but I
think we're gonna have Daredevil, the Boys, and Euphoria all
running at one time. It's gonna be a it's gonna
be a juicy month. There's gonna be a lot of
stuff going on. So and that's the best way to
end it right there. So that's our thoughts, that's our
weekly geek for this next week it will be should
be dealing in Kirkland. Let's there's no news because offset
is the Christmas season? Come is it next week? You
guys said that? No, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Two weeks twenty third?
Speaker 1: What's next? Whose weekly geek? Next week is? Oh, Dylan
Taylor the week and toys there you go? Today was
the uh the Perk Boys, right, we pert boys. We
dropped a couple of Kirks there. So yeah, we still
got that and the same thing too for the next
couple of weeks there. I think next week there will
be news for you're in Dylan's cast. If there's not news,
we always got something to release because around Christmas might
get a little slower, but we'll see. And then yeah,
not this weekend, but I think the next weekend of
the twentieth, I think we're doing after nine. So but yeah,
tomorrow we'll be doing some patron stuff and then after
that video awards and I promise you and I'll be boring.
Speaker 2: Bye.