WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.399 Hey, before we get started, be sure to head over 2 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:06.320 to Hamradio two dot com forward slash email dash sign 3 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:12.039 up to join my email list of over nineteen thousand subscribers, 4 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:14.880 where I like to send emails about upcoming events, upcoming 5 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:17.920 shopping deals, keep you updated with all the stuff going 6 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:21.280 on with my videos. Once that list reaches twenty thousand, 7 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:25.039 I will be doing a giveaway of another HF radio 8 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:33.560 sign up today and thank you for the support. Okay, 9 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:38.840 I show seven o'clock guys. It's like we've got a good, 10 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:44.200 good group in the chat tonight, so I appreciate everyone 11 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:50.759 being here, and we're gonna switch over right here. So 12 00:00:50.840 --> 00:01:00.240 guess what. I drove to Ohio this week and I 13 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:05.480 got back about three hours ago, so I am I'm 14 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.280 a little bit tired. It was a fun trip. It 15 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:13.239 was fairly uneventful as far as I mean. I mean, 16 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:17.200 I don't have any issues or anything. But it was 17 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:19.799 a good trip. And you guys are going to be 18 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:25.799 seeing my new RV on the Unplugged channel very soon. Okay, 19 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:29.040 So tomorrow morning I'm driving again. We're going to Galveston 20 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:33.239 for the week tomorrow, and that brings me to a 21 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:35.840 couple of different things, So a couple of different announcements 22 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.719 I wanted to make real quick here. So the Houston 23 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:44.159 Hamfest is next weekend. It's Friday and Saturday, March seventh 24 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:46.719 and eighth, noon to sixth on Friday, eight to three 25 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:54.439 on Saturday. Most likely I will be there on Saturday 26 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:59.040 and not Friday. I will be there, and in the 27 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:01.760 past I've gone both day but most likely I'm probably 28 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:03.920 not gonna go Friday this time, but I will be 29 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:07.519 there on Saturday. They're raffling off of ftd X ten 30 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:11.439 grand prize. They're also given away FtM five hundred ft 31 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:17.240 seventy ft five R several prizes there and it's a 32 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:22.360 it's a pretty good show for Texas. It's ever since 33 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:24.280 we lost Hamcom a few years ago, we don't have 34 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:28.560 a large show in Texas anymore. But this is a 35 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.639 good show. So and HRO will be there if they've 36 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:32.280 been there for the last two maybe three years, so 37 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.080 they'll be there again this time. So that's next weekend, 38 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:40.400 Friday and Saturday. I since I'm driving to Galveston tomorrow. 39 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:45.159 Originally I was supposed to drive to Galveston tonight this morning, No, 40 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:48.759 yesterday morning, Yesterday morning, yesterday morning. We're supposed to go 41 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:52.039 yesterday morning, so got pushed back due to some vehicle 42 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:54.759 issues I had, so instaid I'm going down there tomorrow, 43 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:57.919 and I was going to live stream tomorrow night for 44 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:01.199 my February giveaway, I'm giving away brand new IC seven 45 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:04.080 oh five. I'll put a link to that in the 46 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:07.080 chat right now, you guys go sign up for that. 47 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:08.800 I think at last count we had about twenty seven 48 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.199 hundred people signed up something like that. I don't remember. 49 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:13.439 I haven't looked at it in the last two or 50 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:16.680 three days because I've been on the road. But rather 51 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:18.280 than doing that tomorrow, I think I'm gonna push it 52 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:19.960 back a week. So I'm gonna give you guys another week, 53 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.120 and we're gonna live stream that giveaway on the channel 54 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.039 this time next week. I'll be back. We're coming back 55 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:32.919 from Galveston Sunday morning, be home by early afternoon next Sunday. 56 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:35.520 So we're gonna do the giveaway of the Icy seven 57 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.639 oh five then. And I also have a brand new 58 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.960 IC seventy three hundred that I'll be giving away for 59 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:44.520 the month at the end of the month of March. Basically, 60 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:49.039 so I gave the January giveaway, I gave it away. 61 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:50.680 The Ft eight ninety one, I gave it away. I 62 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:52.800 think it was the first Sunday of February. So the 63 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:55.520 February giveaway is gonna be done the second Sunday of March, 64 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:57.520 and then the March giveaway will be done sometime in 65 00:03:57.560 --> 00:03:59.639 early April. So we're kind of pushing it out a 66 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.719 little bit. But hey, you're getting free radios, So there 67 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:07.280 you go. February Repeater Challenge. I've been getting a lot 68 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:11.199 of you email me logs for that. That's still ongoing. 69 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.319 I mean, it's we're done with February now, but if 70 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:15.240 you haven't sent me your logs four February Senate, go 71 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.199 ahead and send it to me. Gonna do a drawing 72 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:20.680 that same night, a week from today for the February 73 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:25.439 Repeater Challenge. And this is this is the live stream 74 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.439 that I created that I was gonna do tomorrow night 75 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:30.720 and for on March third, but again I'm gonna push 76 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.879 it till next Sunday. So we're gonna do that on 77 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:37.240 Sunday on this channel a week from tonight. So there 78 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:40.000 we go. Special shout out to everybody in green text 79 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:43.000 in the chat, all the YouTube channel members Lee, I 80 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.639 saw you in there earlier. K I five YPR. I 81 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:47.439 think you were the first one in there that I saw. 82 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:52.319 Aaron KQ four h z K you're in there earlier, 83 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:57.800 Kooley Cult forty five, Michael KD eight g I, J 84 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:03.079 Phil W zero R HP, Wayne K nine W kJ 85 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:07.079 thank you for joining. Ronald, Jeff A A four B 86 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:12.360 C Mark another ron K and four Z v U 87 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.399 thanks for joining, guys. Jerry, see you in there. Thanks 88 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.600 for being here tonight. James k I five O E 89 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:24.759 B Corey in one x w S. Let's see Jim 90 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:28.800 G y M Jim K nine O s U. Are 91 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.360 you at the gym at OSU right now? That's what 92 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.360 I want to know. V A five S A R 93 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:39.519 thanks for joining tonight. And yeah, a lot of other 94 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:41.720 people in there. I see Bill in there, Hem, Radio Tectonics, 95 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:47.439 digital ranchers in there, Tank is in there all right? 96 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:47.680 Good? 97 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:49.399 Just want to make sure I acknowledge everybody. Thanks for 98 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.600 joining tonight, guys. Should be a pretty fun stream. Let's 99 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:55.959 bring on gas Stone and Frank. They're talking in the 100 00:05:55.959 --> 00:06:00.680 background right now, so let me my zoom screen, my zooms. 101 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:05.120 Here's my zoom screen. And Jeremie. There's a transition there. 102 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:06.160 What's up, guys, How are y'all? 103 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.120 Oh, I'm good. I was waiting for Frank to jump in. 104 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.079 Thanks for halving me on, Frank. Frank knows he's supposed 105 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:14.360 to let the guests talk first. 106 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:20.480 I was told. 107 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:24.600 First. Okay, oh boy, yeah, yeah, Now I'm good. 108 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:26.439 Thanks for having me on, Jason. Today has been a 109 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.160 fun day. So a lot of us to talk about, for. 110 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.759 Sure, good, good deal. Yeah, yeah, I know that we've 111 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:32.279 been going back and forth. We were going to do 112 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:34.480 this a couple of weeks ago and then my schedule 113 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:37.480 got food bard and you were out of town, and uh, 114 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:39.079 but I'm glad to I'm glad you took the time. 115 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:39.240 Man. 116 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:40.439 It's going to be a fun talk. 117 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:41.639 Yeah. 118 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:44.639 So we're going to talk about some InCom tool stuff, 119 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:46.560 and I'm going to ask you a few questions about 120 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:48.759 InCom tools and if you if you don't want to 121 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:50.800 answer them, or you can't answer them, don't don't worry 122 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:52.800 about that. So I've got a couple of things that 123 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.199 I wanted to ask you specifically about, but you know, 124 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:57.720 feel free to just say whatever you want to because 125 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:59.279 I know that you you give it out to your 126 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.639 not Paigre, but your channel supporters. First through you do 127 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:04.720 through buy Me a Coffee. You have a membership thing 128 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:06.120 and it's. 129 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.040 Free for everybody. But okay, I thought we do some 130 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.399 behind the scenes, a lot of behind the scenes, right, 131 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:15.519 been called the Nerd Hour. Yeah, yeah, we did seven 132 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:16.959 of those last ye Those were fun. 133 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:20.839 Good, good good. Okay. Yeah, I'm a I'm I'm a 134 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:22.600 member of the of your buy Me a Coffee thing, 135 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.160 so I get the emails about that and when I 136 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:27.240 when I can join, I do. But yeah, good deal. 137 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:31.560 So Frank, what's h How was you did a that 138 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:33.480 wasn't a live stream? You did a premiere for that? 139 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.439 You could tell. I changed clothes very fast, quick change. 140 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:38.279 It says premiere at the bottom of the video when 141 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:39.120 you do a premiere frame. 142 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:43.800 No, that was pre recorded. It's just how schedules will 143 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.279 line up. And I wanted to get it out a 144 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.079 couple of weeks before the Go Kit Challenge, so it 145 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:53.879 was pre recorded. I I pre recorded the bumpers also, Hey, 146 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:55.319 but you know what, it was a bunch of fun 147 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:57.800 just to sit there and was I honestly thought it 148 00:07:57.839 --> 00:07:59.759 we would go for like twenty minutes, but then we 149 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:02.240 went for forty five minutes and at the end, I 150 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:04.839 just got to end this now because we feel like 151 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.680 we're gonna keep going on. And after I hit the 152 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:10.199 stop record button, we went for another forty five minutes. 153 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:13.079 Is that coming up again this year? Is that coming 154 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:14.319 up in the next Yes? 155 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:19.240 That that is not this weekend? Next weekend, March fifteenth 156 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:22.279 is the weekend after the Houston ham Fest. 157 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:24.439 Okay, you know what I'll be. I should be home. No, no, no, 158 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:26.480 I'm not. I'll be that's I'll be in I'll be 159 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:29.680 in freaking New Jersey that weekend for New Jersey hamsid 160 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:32.720 New Jersey Technology Institute. Technology is where ham SAI is 161 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:35.879 this year. So yeah, I will be in New Jersey 162 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.039 from Thursday to Sunday. Let me back then. So I'm 163 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.840 gonna unfortunately miss that this year. But okay, good, good, 164 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:45.840 good deal. Glad good to know that. So okay, yep, 165 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:47.919 all that doesn't look right? 166 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:52.240 Okay, so oh also we'll fast you go help. You 167 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:55.080 were saying it was raining, and it is raining. You 168 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.120 better not melt on the way to your hamstrack. 169 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:02.279 Oh no, no, it's no problem. No, I was, uh, 170 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:04.840 I was, yeah, I was wondering if it was going 171 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.279 to be because I heard some thunder earlier, and then 172 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:09.360 when the rain started it was very light. I can 173 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:11.159 actually I've actually got the door to the shack open 174 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.480 right now. I can hear it lightly raining out there. 175 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:13.840 Cool. 176 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.399 You see it was rumbling. Yeah, it was rumbling a 177 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:21.360 little bit, but not a big deal. So cool. Okay, Well, Gastone, 178 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.639 thanks for joining it tonight. Man, it's always good to 179 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:27.360 have you. It's been a while. And uh for people 180 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:28.960 who may not know, to go ahead and give a 181 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.919 brief tell briefly who you are and what you do 182 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:33.639 and that kind of thing. Your what's your channel for? 183 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:36.039 So congrat I don't think I've said this publicly before. 184 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:39.240 Congrats on one hundred thousand subscribers. Yeah, there's your play button 185 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:39.600 right there. 186 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.279 Yes, it happened in August of last year. You, I 187 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:45.039 just want to hear the story real quick before we 188 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:45.320 do it. 189 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:46.399 Sure, do it, go for It. 190 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:49.679 Was at maybe forty thousand subscribers and kind of just 191 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.120 picking up a thousand every month or so, and I 192 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:57.000 wanted to set up a windlink RMS gateway and I 193 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:58.720 wasn't familiar with how did they do that? On the 194 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.919 Linux side, so shame on me, and everybody was like, 195 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:04.000 go the RMS route, and I said, you know what, 196 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:07.399 I haven't used Windows since two thousand and one and 197 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.960 I did not want to deal with the Windows updates 198 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.799 and all that stuff. So I did this off grid, 199 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:18.639 air gapped install of Windows and went through that process. 200 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:23.240 The next day was when that cloud strike incident happened, 201 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:27.039 and it impacted the point of sale systems, the banks, 202 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:31.360 the airline kiosks, and there was that update that was 203 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:34.039 pushed out to all of those customers and did the 204 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:38.320 blue screen of depth. I picked up sixty thousand subscribers 205 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.960 on that one video and I just like shot across 206 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:41.720 one hundred k. 207 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:47.759 So it's insane. But yeah, yeah, good timing, good timing, Yeah, 208 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:52.879 good timing. Yeah, totally absolutely so how did that did that? 209 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:54.639 Do you still got a lot of traction on that 210 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:56.000 video or how's it doing now? 211 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:59.559 No, it's it's pretty much flatlined after that breaking news. 212 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:02.600 But yeah, A long story short to answer your original question, 213 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:07.679 very latecomer to amateur radio briefly saw it once in 214 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:12.799 high school in the nineties and twenty seventeen, I decided 215 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.919 to get licensed and couldn't make any contacts, So I 216 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:19.720 put amateur radio on hold with my bowfing and during COVID, 217 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:22.360 I thought, you know what, it's probably time to pull 218 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:25.200 out that radio and get into comps. We moved to 219 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:28.320 this property, made my first contact, and I spent the 220 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.360 last five years. May fifth will be five years on 221 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:35.519 the air, and I've been documenting on YouTube on the 222 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.480 tech Prepper every single experience. So I would say the 223 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:42.799 tech Prepper is an experienced channel that's focused on my 224 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:46.919 journey and amateur radio, with very specific goals of doing 225 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:50.919 off grid, offline operations, and a lot of it takes 226 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.320 place in the back country because when I have downtime, 227 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:57.399 nothing's better than trail running for me, hiking, backpacking, So 228 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:59.279 it's kind of a bridge. I mean, we talked about 229 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:01.320 it before the show, but the day I did a 230 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:04.840 fun radio and concealment exercise with drone footage in the 231 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:07.159 back country and it's just the best of both the world. 232 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:10.480 So that's what I'm about. I don't do fancy production, 233 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.879 I don't do multiple takes. So if you're up for 234 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:16.679 fumbling for my words, ums and us and just a 235 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.039 good time, that's what the channel is about. 236 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:21.519 Sounds like a normal day on my channel. But yeah, right, 237 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:25.679 so I was talking with So I don't know if 238 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:28.799 you know who Chris Weatherman is. He he writes the 239 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:33.440 Survivalist series books Going Home and all those. Yeah, yeah, 240 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.919 under the pseudonym of a American Yep. He lives in Florida. 241 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:39.840 So long story short, he lives in Florida. And I 242 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:41.600 was trying to get him to come to him cash 243 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:42.120 this year. 244 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:43.240 Oh, they'd be fun. 245 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:48.279 Yeah, And he had a he had a pre planned 246 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.679 event that weekend and he's he was going on a 247 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:54.039 two day ruck what he called a two day ruck. 248 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:57.120 And I'm like, okay, that's interesting. I'm gonna put that 249 00:12:57.159 --> 00:12:58.320 in the back of my mind and kind of look 250 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.080 that up. I was having lunch with a friend in Huntsville, Alabama, 251 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:03.240 two days ago and he's like, yeah, we're going on 252 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:05.399 a ruck this weekend. And I'm like, okay, I got 253 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:09.320 to figure out, Like, like my friend in Huntsville apparently 254 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:11.960 found a group like like almost like a meetup group. 255 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:13.720 I don't know if anybody still uses meet up or not, 256 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:15.960 but like a meetup group that you know, they just 257 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.399 get together and they just they go they go ruck 258 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:20.799 and go rucking and go hiking and whatnot. So I'm like, yeah, 259 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:22.480 I gotta find something like that to do in my 260 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:24.279 area because I think that would be a fun thing 261 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:26.240 to do, especially if you're gonna involve radio in it. 262 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:28.600 So that's something that's in the back of my mind 263 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:30.440 that I gotta I gotta figure out here soon. But 264 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:32.120 you said so like for. 265 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:34.320 The exercise side of it, the go ruck the. 266 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:37.840 Yeah, that's that's part of it. Yes, absolutely, I mean, 267 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:40.759 you know, the hiking exercise, but also just to kind 268 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:45.000 of like, you know, uh pack you know, you know 269 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.080 this from experience, you know, pack up your backpack, get 270 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.279 out in the field, realize you brought too much crap, 271 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:52.720 it's too heavy, You're not in shape for this, and 272 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:54.799 then redo it again, and redo it again, and redo 273 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:56.480 it again, and then on the sixth or seventh try 274 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.519 you get You're like, okay, now I got it. Now, 275 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:00.399 I got now. I understand how it I should and 276 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.240 should do so very trial and error about it, right, 277 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:06.200 So that's what I but that's how I like to 278 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:07.960 do it. I was like, Okay, well, I think I 279 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:09.559 want to take this and this and this, but then 280 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.639 once I go do it, and I'm like, okay, I 281 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:14.720 definitely want to take this with these three items I 282 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.879 don't need because I you know, and then just learn 283 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:19.159 by experience and that kind of thing. So that's that's 284 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:21.759 what I'm I'm looking so to do. 285 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:23.559 Go do it, man, I've had so much fun with 286 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:26.720 it a year ago. If I could talk to myself 287 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.440 right now, I would say, who are you? You freaking imposter? 288 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:31.120 You're breaking all the rules. 289 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:34.399 I think you're a LARPer now right because I saw 290 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:37.600 your Instagram post about being a LARPer. Who knew? 291 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:41.600 Well, there's that, right. I I my pants of knee 292 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:43.960 pads and they really do save your bacon out there 293 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:47.759 and just make it more comfortable. But I said, I 294 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:50.240 will never buy a toy in amateur radio. I'm not 295 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:53.440 going to buy Chinese radios. And after spending a lot 296 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:58.679 of time in the back country this year, Chinese radio 297 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:04.279 b tech. You've yes right, So my VXXR, as much 298 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:07.480 as I love it, has taken a back seat. But 299 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.320 then even the eight one eight, where I love that 300 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:12.120 little guy for the back country, this is about gear. 301 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:16.360 I can't get enough of the true SDX and it's 302 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.399 just those are the little things that you learn. It's like, man, 303 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:21.840 you feel so depleted after scaling two thousand feet of 304 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:25.360 a peak with a man pack. Even the eight one 305 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:28.320 seven is small ast it is, but now going with 306 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:32.200 something this tiny and yeah, you learn by doing, and 307 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:35.720 those micro refinements are just the best way to do it. 308 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.080 What are you doing on HF with the true SDX 309 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:45.440 mostly digital but JSATE every single mode, so all of them, okay, okay, 310 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:46.600 a lot of envies. 311 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.159 I mean I'm able to light up and get into 312 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:51.879 all of the Southwest. I've even done. We were holding 313 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:57.799 forty meter regional net Saturday mornings. I did it straight 314 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:01.960 with the onboard speaker and mike and made the contact 315 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:04.720 out to the guys within about three hundred miles. About 316 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:08.200 what the literature suggests for enviz But yeah, I used 317 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.879 the did you rig light with it? Not the USB interface, 318 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:17.399 and I pick up the little f ZM one and 319 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:21.120 I'll do our dop on HF. Recently, I finally gave 320 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:24.559 in and on MCom tools. It hasn't been released this 321 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:28.200 version yet. It works with VARA and that little guy. 322 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:32.759 I'm able to do VARA connections over HF, but mostly JSA. 323 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:36.639 You know the kind of wore course HF digital modes okay, 324 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:39.440 anything that's not FT eight. That's the only digital mode 325 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:41.559 that I'm not on board for because it has no 326 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:44.639 m com purpose in my opinion, outside of maybe a 327 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:45.559 propagation tool. 328 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:47.919 I mean, I don't know. There was on one one 329 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:50.559 time I was on FT eight and uh, and I 330 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:52.480 was some guy was yelling at me, you saying that 331 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:54.519 YouTube sucks and I should get off, I should get 332 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:55.919 a real job or something like that. And he was 333 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:58.799 just typing that through the thing so you can send 334 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:01.720 messages over it. I mean I just ignored the I 335 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.720 was actually live streaming, and I was like, look at 336 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:05.920 this guy. I think it was like a Christmas morning 337 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:09.079 one year, like three years ago. But oh wow, yeah, 338 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:10.960 yeah it is. Yeah, some people, I tell you what, 339 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:13.400 but no, Jesse, I mean JSA call us works on 340 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:15.079 the same protocol as FD eight, as you know. So 341 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.039 it's uh, that's if you can if you can do FDA, 342 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:19.920 then you should be able to do JSA call, which 343 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:23.000 is really We did some JSA call for on Winter 344 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:23.519 field Day. 345 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:25.240 Oh it's a lot of fun. 346 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:27.039 Yeah, yeah, it can be a lot of fun. 347 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:30.759 So we'll get this. So for we did anti Summer 348 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.759 Field Day about two years ago. I remembered that coffee 349 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:38.279 group and we specifically went out and challenged herself to 350 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:42.920 QRP and JSA and we did it. And we did 351 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:45.119 it by doing it on the work modes or the 352 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.880 work bands. Oh see if if all the contesting bands 353 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:54.160 that you would be on for field day, they were crowded, obviously, 354 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:58.359 but twelve, seventeen and thirty meters quite as can be. 355 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:01.720 And we were able to relay track from the southwest 356 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:04.559 to the East Coast and then back to the guys 357 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:09.079 in the southwest, mostly because we weren't able to do 358 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:12.880 our normal forty meters stuff and get the regional guys. 359 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:14.759 But yeah, relays was kind of a big thing we 360 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:17.400 did for Anti Winter field Day to do the hop 361 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:20.200 to the East coast and back to work around limitations 362 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:21.759 on those higher bands. 363 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.119 That's good. So you mentioned MCom tools. Go ahead and 364 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.400 tell the audience what that is exactly. And I would 365 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:31.200 like to know myself, because I've been talk to you 366 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:36.079 about that for probably at least two years. I thought 367 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:38.440 that you were still I thought it was still basically 368 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:40.680 in beta for lack of a better description. I didn't 369 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.599 think it had been released yet or however, not to 370 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:46.680 the point where you wanted at least I know it's 371 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:48.759 probably gonna be ever evolving, right, You're never going to 372 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.359 be done with it, but just what stage is it currently? 373 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:54.160 And also after you explain what it is. 374 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:58.920 Yeah, So MCom Tools was designed out of frustration as 375 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:01.839 being a new ham and the operation I wanted to 376 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:04.119 do in the field. So when I was doing summits 377 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:06.799 on the air or field day, I just wanted to 378 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:10.279 quickly make my contacts and breakdown. But dealing at that 379 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:13.680 time five years ago with a Raspberry Pie and then 380 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:17.079 manually configuring the radio and the audio levels and doing 381 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:19.599 all of that stuff and dealing with tiny keyboards, and 382 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:23.559 I said, this is just too much work. I just 383 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:27.160 want to plug in my radio and switch to a mode, 384 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.240 do wind link, maybe jump to APRS, maybe switch to 385 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.200 JAA sate and just have everything be plug and play. 386 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:35.839 So what MCom tools is in a high level right now, 387 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:39.039 I'm calling it the R three release, and it's not done. 388 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:41.960 But it was released Thanksgiving of twenty twenty four. It 389 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.519 took seven weeks off of work unpaid. So that's where 390 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:47.319 a lot of the buying me of coffee funds went 391 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:50.240 was to pay myself for almost two months to work 392 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:52.680 on it, and I was able to achieve during that 393 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:54.559 time the plug and play vision, so you only have 394 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:57.599 to do three thanks if you're able to build the 395 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:01.440 image first boot, you actually end up. So the goal 396 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:05.359 of epcome tools is also to have a operating system 397 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:08.279 that is fully built and it never has to go online. 398 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:10.519 So once you take the time to build it, you 399 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:13.240 carry that around with you and ten years from now 400 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:15.799 you could plug it into an older computer and it 401 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:19.720 never needs to get any packages. But I wanted to 402 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:22.559 automate everything and turn it into appliance. So number two 403 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:26.640 MCME tools is and appliance, And I mean maybe they 404 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:30.279 could show you a quick demo really quickly. There's only 405 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.079 three things you have to do, assuming you have the 406 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:39.160 correct radio ready to go. Okay, so let me know 407 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:40.000 if you can see my screen. 408 00:20:40.079 --> 00:20:41.720 Okay, yep, yep, see it? 409 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:46.200 Okay, So this is running mcome tools. It's the R 410 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:49.279 four release, which is going to be released on community 411 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:54.000 dot mcomtools dot com in April. Ok So this one's 412 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:57.200 a little bit ahead, but assume that you've just installed 413 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:59.880 it using the USB thumb drive in your computer, and 414 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:04.200 it is one like installing a boon to. In fact, 415 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:06.200 this is built on a boon to. So the one 416 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:09.599 question people have is is it an application. No, it's 417 00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:14.599 a full Linux distribution based on a boon To, and 418 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:16.880 it's locked at a point in time. It's locked on 419 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:21.079 a version that is now out of maintenance. It's what 420 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.279 they called end of life, and it's by design. This 421 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:27.680 is an appliance, and I've patched every single thing. So 422 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:30.359 for example, you log in for the first time, and 423 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:34.640 let's say that we want to This is on the 424 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:36.400 command line, but there is going to be a graphical 425 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:39.279 version coming. You put in your call sign, you put 426 00:21:39.319 --> 00:21:42.279 in your grid square, and optionally, if you don't have 427 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:44.759 wind Link, just leave it blanket enter or put your 428 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:48.359 existing wind Link password and you could just confirm it 429 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:53.519 if I may kill that. If nothing ever changes, you 430 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:56.599 never have to run that command again. You're done. Every 431 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:01.319 time I want to now use this system, I can 432 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:04.000 switch radios. There's a command that right now is kind 433 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:06.400 of command line based, but it will be a graphical 434 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.519 application later, and it lists all of the radios that 435 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:14.440 it has full plug and play support. So what I 436 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:18.079 like to tell people is the path of least resistance 437 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:20.839 is if you have a radio already that works with 438 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:24.000 the digit rig light or the digit rig Mobile, you're 439 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:26.880 good to go. You're pretty much all. 440 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:30.200 Set now, you say, if nothing ever changes, but you 441 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:32.440 put your grid square in. So is it dependent on 442 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:35.119 your current location or are you just telling it what 443 00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:36.400 your home qth is? 444 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:39.599 Yeah, you enter it. Let's say that I go to 445 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:41.720 activate a park and I want the grid square to 446 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.720 be reflected in the applications. You can rerun that command again. 447 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.160 And so the cool thing about it is that is 448 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:51.480 what it does every single time is it always reads 449 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:54.079 that configuration. So if I want to also switch operators, 450 00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:57.440 let's say that I want to be you, you could 451 00:22:57.480 --> 00:22:59.839 just go ahead and we could put let me put 452 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:02.319 my old call sign for example, it's actually kind of nice. 453 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:08.079 We'll do KT seven are U when KT seven? Sorry? 454 00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:11.160 Oh KT one are you? When I'm getting confused? And 455 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.000 I can change my grid to delta MIC thirty four 456 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:17.759 and we'll keep the password the same. It's it won't 457 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:21.319 work and we'll just do yes. So that's all that is. 458 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:26.680 So the normal flow is, if let's actually do this, 459 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.039 We're gonna pick digit rig light for example, right now, good? 460 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:35.440 And if there actually was something for you to configure, 461 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:38.400 you would do it. Let me actually show you another 462 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:41.119 radio real quick, like let's say the seven o five. 463 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.640 So the Icy seven oh five, seventy one hundred, seventy 464 00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:47.640 two hundred, and seventy three hundred are all plug and play. 465 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:49.920 In fact, the seven oh five is the easiest one. 466 00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:51.160 It's actually kind of cool. 467 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:52.319 You know. 468 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.160 There's not a whole lot to this. But let me 469 00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:59.880 go back to the digit rig light here, okay, so 470 00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:05.359 we'll take our did you rig light? M h. I'm 471 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.480 actually gonna use a Balfang for this demo. 472 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.079 Cool, okaying about that. 473 00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:15.640 So I'm on the two meter packet frequency which is 474 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:20.559 one four or five uh seven to one zero out here. 475 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:23.319 And the cool thing behind the scenes is that it 476 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:26.200 has plug and play. When you plug this thing in, 477 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:29.039 it knows that it is a did you rig light, 478 00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:32.079 and it does all the right things. It configures the 479 00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:34.920 audio levels like there is zero configuration, and that's the 480 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:36.599 other big thing. So give me a second. 481 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:40.920 Here, Frank, are you taking down questions in the chat? 482 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:43.759 Yeah? I am looking for questions just and. 483 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:46.200 You turned your camera off. That's why I ask. But 484 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:47.160 no worries, That's fine. 485 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:52.319 Oh I did. I'm sorry I was poking others. 486 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:53.000 All right. 487 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:57.079 Yes, while you're pulling that up, I am looking for 488 00:24:57.079 --> 00:24:59.440 a questions we ask them on air later and if 489 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.000 it makes it, I'll interject them as need be. 490 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:04.119 All right, thank you, go ahead, guess jone. 491 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:07.079 Okay, So this was a clean install. All we did 492 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.559 was enter et user to put in our call sign 493 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:13.400 and our grid and our password. Now, the operational thing 494 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:15.119 you do every time you go out, you run ET 495 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.119 mode and it gives you all the modes, and every 496 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.079 time you do this, it fully rewrites the configuration. So 497 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:23.839 let's say that I want to do a wind link 498 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:28.799 packet for example. We'll hit okay, and it does all 499 00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:31.319 of this behind the stuff. It starts Direwolf behind the scenes. 500 00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:35.680 It rewrites the configuration, it launches pat wind Link for you, 501 00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:38.279 and you're good to go. Now, you notice I've got 502 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:40.240 the call sign here K T one r A u N. 503 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:44.960 Let's go ahead and kill that bad boy. We'll fix 504 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:50.640 my call sign. We'll do KT seven r U N. 505 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:55.240 We'll leave it at at delta Mike thirty four. Yes, 506 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:57.640 we're good, and then we'll go back into the mode. 507 00:25:57.680 --> 00:25:59.759 So this is how you switch modes very quickly, and 508 00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:04.759 we'll even do a BBS demo. So let's do windling packet. Yeah, 509 00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:08.440 over A twenty five. And the cool thing is, if 510 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:11.960 you're running like a new BTECHUV Pro, it'll actually not 511 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.559 use direbol if it use the Bluetooth instead. So now 512 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:16.880 let's go ahead and connect to a station. Actually, I 513 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:20.960 want you guys to see what's going on. We'll do 514 00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:28.039 connect and we'll connect to my gateway and hopefully the 515 00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:30.680 Bao fang will light up here and you see, yeah, 516 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:31.839 it's doing its thing. 517 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:34.400 Nice. 518 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.279 Yep, we're connected already to my gateway and my gateway 519 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:42.640 is now checking for four messages. So that's simple. And 520 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.880 it looks like I have a email that came through 521 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:49.920 on the pine phone that's coming in right now. Yep, 522 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:53.759 first email from ETC Mobile pine phone. So I sent 523 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.720 this to one of the guys. Now check this out. Now, 524 00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.880 let's say we want to transition to another mode. We'll 525 00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:01.920 just go ahead and close this. And let's say I 526 00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:05.640 want to connect to the BBS. We'll use for this 527 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:11.559 demo para con and you can select now which modem, 528 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:14.559 so as long as your radio supports it. Obviously doesn't 529 00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.079 make sense for three hundred BOD and for the digital 530 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.160 work like you won't get ninety six hundred, but it 531 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:23.839 rewrites all of the configuration appropriately based on the mode 532 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.519 you're about to go when so again, now it's starting 533 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:30.599 dire Wolf again on the back behind the scenes. And 534 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.400 now we can do a connect and we're going to 535 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.759 connect to my BBS. Let's see if this works. And 536 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:38.519 if we see it, we should get a banner message 537 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.839 that says, yep, connected to KT seven are you in? 538 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:47.000 There's the BBS. And the BBS is something that I'm 539 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.480 working on for a different thing. But I've written all 540 00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.160 kinds of cool applications, like for example, we can get 541 00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:55.839 now if I was just over the air, like I 542 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.039 am over my balveank, I can ask my remote station 543 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.960 give me the space weather right now, and the station 544 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:05.319 at the house now goes and is getting all of 545 00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:07.640 the space weather alerts if there's any blackouts, what the 546 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.359 KNDX is. So a lot of cool stuff. But now 547 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.119 I can even go and jump into the BBS. We'll 548 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.119 jump into that application. I'll show you JAS eight here 549 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:21.400 in a second. So now we're connected to BBS, it 550 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.079 should say hello guests, Towne and I can go now 551 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.240 and list let's say, my message will list the last 552 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.880 five messages for today. And I have all this stuff 553 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.319 running on the phone, by the way too as of yesterday. 554 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.039 That's something we'll dive into here. 555 00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:36.400 Yeah, that's pretty slick. 556 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.839 That's not real fun. Let's do list bulletin So we'll 557 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:44.160 get into this in why a bulletin board system in 558 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:46.240 twenty twenty five. But our group has been using it 559 00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.279 now for over ninety days, and we can upload and 560 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.519 download files here. This is actually where I post very 561 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.960 early access. You can see here on message three seventy 562 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.400 four mcome tools commute R four dot thirteen. So I'm 563 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.640 doing incremental releases that I'm not publicly talking about, but 564 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:09.400 I'm using this here to socialize that stuff early. So 565 00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:12.000 that's just another example of another mode. And we're going 566 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:14.079 to just go ahead now and disconnect. 567 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.839 You've got the BBS running over HF. Is that it 568 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:18.319 right now? 569 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.720 This is VHF twelve hundred BOD But I also have 570 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.839 a Vara HF port, so put it earlier in the chat. 571 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:29.200 If anybody wants a free license, I have one left remaining. 572 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:33.400 I bought ten. If you go to launch Vara HF 573 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.920 and then VARA terminal and connect to seven decimal one 574 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:42.480 zero zero upper sideband. You can connect to KT seven, 575 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.680 run DASH seven and if you type in BBS and 576 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:47.799 send me a message using a SP and the my 577 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:50.640 call sign, I'll give away a license. It doesn't look 578 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:52.359 like anybody who has done that because I just checked 579 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.599 my messages and there weren't any. So yeah, I just 580 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.599 disconnected from that. And we can also know go ahead 581 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:02.759 in and quit that. Let's say now we want to 582 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.440 do APRS for example, we can go ahead and now 583 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:12.039 drop into a wind link. Oh we could even do 584 00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:16.319 viur FM, but I haven't configured it. Yeah, let's do 585 00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:20.400 the APRS client. So behind the scenes again it fires 586 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:26.400 up everything that it needs and now we've got APRS running. 587 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.119 And the cool thing about MCom tools is part of 588 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:31.119 how I guide you online on how to set this up. 589 00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:34.319 I also have tools at the end of the installer 590 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.440 to pick the state you're in, and it downloads the 591 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.680 entire maps you for your state, so you fully have 592 00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:42.680 that stuff available so you don't even have to fetch 593 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.680 it in the future. So this is why it's very 594 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.079 much a gread down situation. If you have GPS connected. 595 00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:51.599 It detects that. So for example, let's say that I 596 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:56.799 want to send a message to you, we'll use let's 597 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:02.799 do the weather WX bot. Uh oh, I don't know 598 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:05.880 if I'm gonna it's gonna be able to hear. Is 599 00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:07.480 the did you pee mode? Yeah, let's try this. We're 600 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:13.000 gonna do wide one blah blah blah and eight five 601 00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:17.799 zero eight seven. I don't know if this will go through, 602 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:22.680 but we'll We'll definitely give it a shot. Yeah, packets 603 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:24.799 are going through. Hopefully the other station will hear it 604 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.559 and retransmit it. You can actually see that the little 605 00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:29.839 RF guy was going But anyway, so the vision first 606 00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:31.799 was to do plug and play, so make it easy 607 00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.880 where all you do is connect the radio and then 608 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.279 it fully configures all the applications with saying defaults and 609 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.519 you can just mode hoop and every time you switch modes. 610 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.079 What it does is take an appliance model where it 611 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.519 just force kills everything. So if something is screwed up, 612 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:50.799 you hit it with a hammer just by getting out 613 00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:54.279 of this and you're good to go. So yeah, let 614 00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:57.039 me go ahead and kill that. I'm inside the house, 615 00:31:57.079 --> 00:31:59.839 so not a huge thing. So some of the other 616 00:31:59.880 --> 00:32:02.440 things that are coming here are well, they're all in 617 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.279 here in the new release. But you could even set 618 00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.680 up services so you could do point to point chat 619 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.599 using something called chatterbox with digital signatures, so you can 620 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:17.960 verify person you're talking to using encryption, not to obfuscate anything, 621 00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:23.000 but you can use private public key cryptography to sign 622 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:25.799 your call sign and then the other end can have 623 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.359 that locally and they can verify you. So there's an 624 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.960 exchange of keys. So if someone just were to put 625 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.960 your call sign Jason in on their computer, I would 626 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.960 know that it's not really you because it doesn't match 627 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:37.759 your your keys that I have. 628 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.000 Oh I see, okay, yeah. 629 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.640 So really cool stuff. And now if you do have 630 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.920 var HF installed, that's all good to go. But let 631 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.640 me show you another cool demo. We're gonna get canceled here, okay, 632 00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:56.680 and we're gonna disconnect this radio. And it wasn't really 633 00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.680 planning on doing this demo. Now we'll take the UV pro, 634 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:01.559 we'll turn it on. 635 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.400 I've been having I've been really really liking my UV pro. 636 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.720 I've been doing a lot of thing. Isn't a wind 637 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.279 link over my uv pro with oh with In fact, 638 00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:12.880 the video that I post tomorrow will be about wode 639 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.880 wind link over Android using the UV pro. That's that's 640 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:18.240 the video I'm doing tomorrow. 641 00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.920 So it's very cool. Yeah, it's really nice for that. 642 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:21.720 It is it is. 643 00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.440 So this one's one off. So the Bluetooth interface was 644 00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:28.119 something I didn't want to do, but I saw so 645 00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.839 much value in having this Bluetooth with a built in 646 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:33.400 T and C for what it is, like one hundred 647 00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.319 and fifty bucks compared to the Kenwood D seventy four 648 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:37.319 D seventy five. 649 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:39.240 Yeah. 650 00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:41.640 So there's again a lot of this stuff is a 651 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.720 gradual evolution, so people that are on the window side 652 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:48.200 don't freak out. This stuff takes time, but all of 653 00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:50.960 the magic behind the scenes you'll see. You haven't had 654 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.799 to put a comport in a serial port, you haven't 655 00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.920 had to deal with sound settings. In fact, I should 656 00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.240 have jumped over to jsa call to show that. That's 657 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.640 actually pretty cool. So I've got this command called et 658 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.400 uv pro. There's also one now for what is it, 659 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:09.079 the vr VGC. 660 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.039 The oh yeah, the N seventy six VGC. 661 00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.239 That's the one six. Yeah, So a community member donated 662 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:17.239 something that was built on the same command so that's 663 00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.000 going to be coming out. And then we also have 664 00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.239 a contribution for the D seventy five, so they all 665 00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.280 work the same way. So I've already paired, so I'm 666 00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.360 just going to type connect and it's going to go 667 00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.239 do all the nerds to for you. In fact, in 668 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:32.360 yellow here you can see that it's giving you instructions. 669 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.239 So menu general settings, make sure you have kiss, T 670 00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.920 and C turned on, and then enter one. Done, and 671 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.920 now it's going to try to talk to the UV 672 00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.360 pro and it's going to go through and do all 673 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.719 the negotiation. It even creates the ports for you, the 674 00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:50.159 AX twenty five ports. You don't have to worry about 675 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:55.079 that yourself. So that all works. And now, for example, 676 00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:58.840 we can do I could connect to the BBS again 677 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.719 using the native tools and we'll put w L two 678 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:05.480 K here and I'll just go straight to the TTP 679 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:11.159 BBS and this is literally just happening straight over this guy. 680 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.920 No wires right now, and again we're connected. We get 681 00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.679 that same Hello, guest O and welcome, and we can 682 00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.639 do the message listing there. So just going to exit that. 683 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.239 And now let's say we want to transition over to 684 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.119 a wind link. We're not we're going to be using 685 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:27.239 wind Link on packet. We just run our normal et 686 00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:31.760 mode again. It now knows that it's not using dire 687 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.559 Wolf over a sound card. You can kind of see 688 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.440 here it says win Link native packet puts you right 689 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.800 back in. You can see here it's doing a X 690 00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:42.639 twenty five plus Linux and we can go ahead and 691 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.079 I can quickly. Let's say, I want to compose a message. 692 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:47.039 What's your call signed Jason? 693 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.000 Yeah, send send me something k C five HWB. 694 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:57.480 Right, and we'll just do a live demo here. I've 695 00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:58.119 been checking. 696 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.239 I've been checking and sending win the emails for about 697 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.559 the past two weeks. Guys, all of you who have 698 00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:04.519 sent me a win link email I've applied to so 699 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.960 I did some location sharing, location position reporting, I should say, 700 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:11.960 while I was on my road trip this week as well. 701 00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:16.119 So we're gonna do connect again. It's gonna be fast. 702 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:17.679 I got to put the outbox here. C see we're 703 00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.679 already connected. In fact, I find that the packet TNC 704 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:25.199 is faster than the Direwolf stuff. So we're sending that off. 705 00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:30.440 Your live demo thing should disappear from my outbox pretty quickly. 706 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:32.840 You could see down here at bottom it's transmitting, So 707 00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.840 again you kind of should have some context on what 708 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:38.800 you're doing. I've done a field training exercise with my 709 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.559 guys and we've got every We did what we call 710 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.800 it an install fest. So building the image for income 711 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:48.039 tools is technical and requires you to play with a Boontu. 712 00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.559 So at the Huntsville, Alabama Fest, I'm actually going to 713 00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:55.079 rent probably two or three booths or a large one 714 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:57.760 and have an installfest there and we could just put 715 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.559 the USB drive because I can't allow people to download 716 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:05.400 the ISO because I'll get sued by Canonical, the copyright 717 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.840 holders of Ubuntu, and there's too much work to de 718 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:14.199 Ubuntu boontu, and there are specific reasons. I spent six 719 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.719 months evaluating different distributions that would work on rugged ice hardware, 720 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:19.840 and at that time it was the best one for 721 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.320 the job. So that's that. 722 00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:25.800 So can people not get this right now without coming 723 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:27.199 to one of your install fests? 724 00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.880 No, they can't. It's just an Intel process. I mean 725 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:31.760 I could go ahead and try to open a browser 726 00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:36.199 real quick. Here, let me see Chrome, give me one 727 00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:36.679 second here. 728 00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.960 Yeah, Because Freddie was asking how do we get a 729 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:41.679 copy of the software, which I was that was going 730 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:43.360 to be my next thing after you were done anyways, 731 00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.679 Like how do people get on? And you're running this 732 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.760 on your little I forget the model number of that 733 00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:49.639 tough pad. 734 00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:53.360 You have Panasonic FCM one and it was designed for 735 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:56.239 that that class of stuff so that all has needed 736 00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:00.000 support for everything. OK, so it was designed for the Panasonics. 737 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.599 You have twenty the FCM one. It runs on any 738 00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.280 computer that will run a BOOTU twenty two dot ten, 739 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.519 So you're fine with a minimum of one hundred and 740 00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.800 twenty eight gigabyte SSD drive. I like eight gigs of RAM, 741 00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.199 mostly because I have some future things. I'm about ten 742 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:19.639 years ahead on the development I'm doing for because I'm 743 00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.519 poorting over the mapping and all the cool stuff people 744 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.679 used to see on my videos, and that stuff's all 745 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.960 coming over very slowly. So this release was more foundational. 746 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:32.880 But yeah, go to community dot mcomtools dot com and 747 00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:34.960 this is for the R three release. It doesn't have 748 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.679 the VARs stuff in there, and it walks you through 749 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.119 the mission statement and this design or the site is 750 00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:45.719 designed to be run in order so home, you know, 751 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.880 go to getting started. It talks about user expectations, but 752 00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:53.599 you have to build the image yourself, and I walk 753 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.480 you through everything. So carve out is Saturday. But the 754 00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:58.519 cool thing is, once you have it written in that 755 00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.920 image working, keep that USB drive and you can literally 756 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.239 boot off of it and use it whenever you want. 757 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:08.800 But yeah, so that's the process. You have to build 758 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:09.639 the image yourself. 759 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:12.400 So I have I have the big brother to your 760 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:14.639 Z one. I think it's a G one, FM's g 761 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:15.639 one or whatever it is. 762 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:17.559 The larger works just fine. 763 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.079 Okay, And it's running Windows Windows ten and uh and 764 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:26.360 it's and it's fine. But you're you're saying that everything 765 00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:30.639 you're doing for this, this community Income tools is running 766 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:32.719 on a USB drive, so I could just boot it 767 00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:34.679 from any computer that that would be supported. 768 00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:36.559 So there's two ways. 769 00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.159 Yeah, is it not? Is it not locally installing on 770 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.920 the computer or do you have that option? Do you 771 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:43.360 have that option to do either? 772 00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.519 Or it's both. Yeah. So here's how I like to 773 00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:48.440 do it. So let's say that I have someone else's 774 00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.039 computer and we're in a situation. I will pull out 775 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.360 my uncomm toal drive, we'll boot off of it, and 776 00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:55.840 we'll click on try it now, and all the features 777 00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.960 that show you work the caveat is it's running every 778 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.320 thing in memory, so the experience will be very slow 779 00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:07.559 and slug. It'll probably feel like a Raspberry Pie three 780 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:08.559 B plus. 781 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:11.119 Yeah, okay, that's what you get for a live image. 782 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.199 Yeah, so yes, yes, I blow away and reinstall this 783 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:18.239 on all my stuff. In fact, I don't even dual 784 00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:20.480 boot anymore because I did have a problem when I 785 00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:24.400 was playing with Windows. I had MCom Tools and Windows 786 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:27.079 dual booted. When I when I was playing with the 787 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:31.159 off grid setup, and I temporarily just for a second 788 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:33.920 booted into Windows and I connected to Wi Fi to 789 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.880 do just one thing. Okay, and this is what happened. 790 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:41.519 Let's stop sharing a real quick. Yeah, it's like, oh, 791 00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:44.800 Windows update. I said, nope, nope, no thank you. So 792 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.800 it downloaded without me knowing the Windows update, and it 793 00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:52.519 went out to go film a video, booted up the 794 00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.960 FCM one and I'm like, that is weird. There's no 795 00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.599 bootloader to get me into MCom Tools. It used to 796 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.440 allow me to choose if I want an income Tools 797 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.400 or Windows. Well, that update just erased the boot record. Yeah, 798 00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.639 because it's like I'm Windows, I'm just going to take over. 799 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.760 So for that reason, my recommendation is always install MCom 800 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.920 Tools as the only operating system. I would recommend most 801 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.840 people just go to eBay, find one hundred or two 802 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:27.400 hundred dollars notebook that has been you know, released in 803 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.920 the last ten years, and fully install it on there 804 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:32.960 so you don't have to worry about losing data if 805 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:35.559 you're not familiar with how to back up Windows and 806 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.800 do all that stuff. But for you, Jason, if you want, 807 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.719 you can ship me You're g one and I'll do 808 00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:43.360 the install for you and ship it back so you 809 00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:45.519 don't have to go through the headache and just get 810 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:46.360 a sense for it. 811 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:49.159 Actually, you know, I think that would be a fun video. 812 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:52.400 I think that out of my I think I might 813 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.800 try to. I keep going back and forth. So I 814 00:41:54.840 --> 00:42:00.719 recently picked up a I switched my main laptop too. 815 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:03.719 I have a tough book now for the actual laptop. 816 00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:07.079 So I carry my my g one and my my 817 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:09.320 my laptop. I forget the model number on it, but 818 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.519 I'll tell you here in a second, and that's what 819 00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.079 I carry now. But in fact, I pulled out that 820 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:17.159 laptop at ham kh and Ack came for a CKJ. 821 00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:19.679 He was like, WHOA, where'd you get that, and I'm like, 822 00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.000 you know, the newer ones aren't as tough. You know, 823 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.159 they used to be kind of early bulking. You could 824 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:25.800 throw him down a flight of stairs. You wouldn't worry 825 00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:27.880 about it. The newer ones aren't as tough. It's still 826 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.760 a cool laptop. But uh, but that's what I've been 827 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.119 But I've got but I've got duel boots on that 828 00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:36.079 with the with the thumb drive that I did my 829 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.079 my off gride Windows ten video four. But I've just 830 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.800 always kept I've just always kept off grade Windows ten. 831 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.960 I'm sorry. I've just always kept Windows ten locally installed 832 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:50.039 on my G one. I probably could do that on 833 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.159 the g one actually, because I keep going back and 834 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:53.719 forth and whether I want to switch over to Lenox 835 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.159 or not. A ck and I had a long conversation 836 00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.920 about leaving Windows and going to Linux and doing this, 837 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.719 and I don't think I'm ever going to leave Windows 838 00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:05.960 completely because there's a lot of DMR software and radio 839 00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.079 software up there that works only on Windows. But you know, 840 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:10.719 about ten years ago I tried to do that and 841 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:12.519 I finally got frustrated with it because of all the 842 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.199 compiling of drivers you had to do and Jason's like, 843 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.719 he's like, it's come a long way since then, and 844 00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:21.280 he really likes Mint. Mint twenty two is the one 845 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:27.159 he likes. So yeah, it's I've never used Mint twenty two. 846 00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.119 That's that's the one he keeps talking about. But I 847 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.519 think that might be a fun project to just go 848 00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:37.800 through this community dot income tools steps myself and you know, 849 00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:42.079 follow follow the instructions, and when I invariably get stuck, 850 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.760 I'll reach out to you. What did I do? You're wrong? 851 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.840 It's a it's a two phase process the first time, 852 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.000 because what you have to do is you have to 853 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:54.199 install u BOONTU twenty two dot ten first, and then 854 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:56.760 there's some minor things you have to install, like the 855 00:43:56.840 --> 00:44:00.280 image creation software and some scripts. But then at that 856 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:04.440 point you can go and produce the image, and then 857 00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:06.239 you kind of go through a second install of m 858 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:11.840 com Tools, and this whole architecture may go away based 859 00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:15.920 on some new breakthroughs I had literally as of yesterday 860 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.280 and the day before where I have now m com 861 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:25.400 Tools running on Mobian on the phone, which is wild, and. 862 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:27.239 I looked, I looked up the pine phone while you 863 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.119 were going through that demo just now, and those things 864 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:30.000 are not expensive. 865 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.480 They're not, but i'll tell you right now. So I've 866 00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:37.920 got the pine Phone Beta edition, three gigs of RAM 867 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:44.639 and a thirty two gig eat MMC storage. It's a 868 00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.760 full blown Linux distribution that's based on Debians. So for 869 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:50.360 me to quickly bring over what I had developed, everything 870 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.119 works on here, the sound cards, the plug and play, 871 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:55.719 It's going to take me the rest of the year 872 00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:58.760 to get those two two get to the same level 873 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:01.159 that you're able to do, because there's some tweaks I 874 00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:04.159 have to do. So I was afraid that I would 875 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.960 release that quick, shaky, terrible video yesterday, like, oh my god, guys, 876 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:09.960 I could connect to the BBS with just this is 877 00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:13.320 all I have, and I showed how you could technically 878 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.039 run JS. So I've got some custom applications. I'm gonna 879 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.480 actually work on a port of jsa call that has 880 00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:24.639 a mobile friendly display later this year. And so I 881 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:27.559 was afraid. They have a newer phone called the Pine Pro, 882 00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:32.360 and I was afraid, so I bought two of them 883 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:38.760 just in case. So it has newer hardware and it's gosh, 884 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:41.960 it was it's four it's four gigs of memory and 885 00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.360 one hundred and twenty eight gig e MMC drive and 886 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:49.760 it's got updated camera, updated GPU, and I'm hoping that 887 00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.480 the battery life isn't terrible. I think it is going 888 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:53.760 to be bad. I think that's going to be what's 889 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:56.400 going to kill this device is the battery. But if 890 00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:58.800 it's snappier, it could be a daily driver. I mean, 891 00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.159 when I went out today in the field, it was 892 00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:04.360 great pulling this out of my chest. Frick doing et 893 00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:08.360 UV pro and I was doing windlink and the BBS 894 00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.119 out in the middle of nowhere, and yeah, I can 895 00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:13.679 even connect directly to the phone using the digirig light. 896 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.840 Does the phone have a US well, does the phone 897 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:18.760 have a USB port? 898 00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.320 Has one USB C port, USBC port? 899 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:24.760 Again, that's that's good enough, That's all you need. 900 00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:29.239 Yeah, but the whole audio subsystem worked. I was not 901 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.920 expecting that. The way that I built m contols to 902 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:34.519 be plug and play. There's some low level Unix stuff. 903 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:37.000 All of that stuff just worked. When I was doing 904 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.840 these experiments on Android phones, none of them were true 905 00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:43.559 Linux distributions and all of that stuff failed. So people ask, 906 00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:46.719 will it work on Android? Nope? Will I ever write 907 00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.880 an application for Android? Nope? Will I ever do ATAC Nope. 908 00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:55.559 I am committed to building on top of Buntu ten 909 00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:59.679 or now the Wan twelve on here, and I'm going 910 00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:03.239 to be working with old software. Uh you know, radio 911 00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:06.239 is not going to change and all of that stuff works. 912 00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:09.800 And if you're concerned about security, my point is these 913 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:12.239 are designed to be off grade air gap solutions. So 914 00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.440 if you want to compromise the things via security, you 915 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:18.519 better have a hacker that's able to figure out how 916 00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:22.519 to inject packets over the air with an exploit that 917 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:26.920 can take over your your phone. The attack surface is minimal, so. 918 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:33.199 Well sorrow an exploit before that was over JSA, was 919 00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:38.920 it JSA? It was over JSA. That was I think, 920 00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:40.719 I swear to JSA. I got to go back and 921 00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.800 reread the story. It's been a while, but it was 922 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:50.039 able to create a malicious payload. Then it's through JSA. 923 00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:54.559 Well all, then we'll do remote code exploit through the 924 00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:59.000 memory overrun and then that triggered it. I was like, guys, 925 00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.639 and then this is a issue with all our software. 926 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:06.440 All our software is ten years old. We need new 927 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:07.960 digital software. 928 00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:10.840 Let me tell you what the issue is on that front. 929 00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:15.320 Because I'm trying to crack that nut. The most powerful 930 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.880 thing that we have are all of these different modems. 931 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.519 So I take a look at Direwolf and that being 932 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:25.280 a packet modem or packet TNC, the R modem and 933 00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:30.159 JSA is also essentially a modem. It's modulating and demodulating 934 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.440 this traffic. The problem is the barrier to understanding the 935 00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:40.559 mathematics to doing the audio encoding, decoding, dealing with the ARA, 936 00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:46.599 the multipathing, fading, and all of the techniques they use. 937 00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.719 That community of developers is so small, So I realized 938 00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:54.280 that personally, I can't write that Motivum software. I'd have 939 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:57.079 to go back and spend probably two years of just 940 00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.159 learning all the basics to write like another modem to 941 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:03.599 compete with something like Vara for example. The approach I 942 00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:06.239 took was, all of these brilliant people have done that work. 943 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.480 What I can do is make it plug and play. 944 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.880 Have access to Packet three hundred, BOD, twelve hundred BOD, 945 00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:19.440 ninety six hundred BOD, art up, Vara HF, Vara FM, 946 00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:24.360 the Mercury modems, and I'm planning on modifying or building 947 00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:30.760 brand new mobile friendly, touch friendly, good user experience on 948 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.679 top of them. So yeah, I'm gonna be working on 949 00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:36.480 a modified version of JSA call. So that's where the 950 00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:38.800 problem is. I don't think it's a lack of wanting 951 00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:40.800 to do it, is just that the skill set to 952 00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.159 do the low level modem work is those engineers are 953 00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:49.039 starting to retire, and I don't think this new generation 954 00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:52.119 of engineers has the talent and the education and the 955 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:57.079 background to do it. So that's where the problem is. 956 00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:59.239 I think the reason why there hasn't really been a 957 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.159 great competitive Vara is because of that. The closest thing 958 00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:04.639 that's coming out right now is a modem called Mercury, 959 00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:10.760 and it's supposed to be Vara compatible from a application perspective, 960 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:14.159 So you could connect Mercury into like your Windling client, 961 00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.119 but you'd have to talk to another Windlin client that 962 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:20.079 is using Mercury, and then as far as they're concerned, 963 00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.280 they think they're talking to Vara, but they're not. And 964 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:26.760 that's nice and open and so those are the things 965 00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:29.960 I'm going to be exploring. So yeah, it's interesting now 966 00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:32.760 that we've got newer hardware and all of this other 967 00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:35.320 great software. It's just a matter of cleaning them up 968 00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:36.559 and packaging them up nicely. 969 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.199 Are we ready for some questions here? 970 00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:44.800 Yeah, one thing, one thing real quick. Some people are 971 00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.400 talking about twelve olt laptops. I know the question came 972 00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:52.480 across will it work on the evolved Maestro? Yeah, so 973 00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:53.800 we can tackle that in a second. 974 00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:57.280 I was going to skip that one because my answered 975 00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.719 that thing away. Yeah, it's that I'm done with. 976 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:03.920 I want to Well that's great, but I wanted to 977 00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:08.400 address it on the live stream. Nevertheless, I will say this, Okay, 978 00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:10.880 I have got let me make sure I got the 979 00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.400 right screen size here. This is the one I've got 980 00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.480 right here, and I bought this off of Amazon. This 981 00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:22.800 is the FC g one. Now this is a oh, 982 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.800 ten inch ten inch tablet, the one that Gastone is 983 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:27.559 using as the M one, which I think is what 984 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.719 five to six inch nine inches? Oh, I thought it 985 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:32.519 was a lot smaller than the. 986 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.800 Ten Well it's seven it's seven inches seven inches. 987 00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:39.039 Okay, that sounds for they measure yeah, just the screen. 988 00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:41.000 I think they're just measuring the screen here. 989 00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:44.320 So it's yes, this is the size of my hand right. 990 00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.559 Right, yeah, okay, so I have the I have the 991 00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:54.000 the larger one, and people talking about, uh, twelve olt 992 00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:58.199 laptops in the chat. I have this, and they make 993 00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.679 a car adapter for this vice. Now I didn't notice 994 00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:03.960 at first, but they make a car adapter for it 995 00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:06.800 that plugs into a regular cigarette lighter adapter. And I 996 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:08.920 had from something I got from Biyu in a long 997 00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.440 long time ago, is a cigarette lighter to power pole receptacle. 998 00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:14.159 So I just take my and you could you could 999 00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:16.000 cut the cigarette lighter adapter off and put your own 1000 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.559 power poles on it. Sure, but I've used that many 1001 00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:22.440 times on my battery box, multiple battered boxes with no issues. 1002 00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.400 What I figured out after I got my new laptop, 1003 00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:29.440 which was the new laptop, is this f Z fifty five. 1004 00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:34.480 The laptop takes the exact same twelve oolt adapter that 1005 00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:38.559 the g one takes, so I can power there are Yeah, 1006 00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:40.599 and that's kind of that's what I was gonna add. 1007 00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:42.400 I kind of figured that after I saw that that 1008 00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:45.079 they were all the same. But all of this Panasonic 1009 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.599 tough Pad and toughbook stuff has this twelve bolt adapter 1010 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:50.519 or or the one ten adapter, and they they all 1011 00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:55.599 work across the cross platform. So yeah, so essentially my 1012 00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.719 fcg one I have is a twelve volt tough pad 1013 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:04.280 because I charge it from my battery box with no issues, 1014 00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:05.519 or I can if I want to. 1015 00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:09.599 Yeah, So here's my thoughts on that. So really quickly 1016 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:11.880 the evolve you and I tried it two years ago 1017 00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:15.679 at Courtzfest, Yes, and it was just you were waiting 1018 00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:17.599 on everything, so I don't recommend. 1019 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:18.679 It is really slow. 1020 00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.719 When you go to these ruggedized machines like the Panasonics, 1021 00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:26.320 they're either fifteen point eight volts or sixteen volts and 1022 00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:29.559 they can fluctuate a little bit what I went with 1023 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:31.920 for the field, since I also standard on twelve volts 1024 00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.880 like every other amateur radio, or thirteen point eight volts. 1025 00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:40.719 There's a company called Lind Electronics Lima, India November Delta 1026 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:46.840 Lind and these are used by public service agencies to 1027 00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.440 drive their tough books and they're kind of expensive. I 1028 00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:52.079 find the mon on eBay for like thirty bucks. And 1029 00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.119 the cool thing about the Lind Electronics is they'll go 1030 00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:59.039 from one ten to the sixteen volts that these need 1031 00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:01.320 and they work across all of my tough pads and 1032 00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:04.920 tough books. But they also have an input for twelve vaults, 1033 00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:07.840 so in the field they can use my bio. We 1034 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:11.039 know going into this little brick and then on the 1035 00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:14.119 outside there's a little jumper cable that goes to sixteen 1036 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:18.039 vaults and I've been using it now for almost two years, 1037 00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:20.960 and I absolutely love it. It has a little bit of 1038 00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:24.440 RF noise, so I use it mostly to charge it 1039 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.760 when I'm not doing stuff. But it's it depends on 1040 00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.400 how much of a peerist you want to be. JSA 1041 00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:32.400 call and the modes that're working were working fine when 1042 00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:37.079 I had the solar panels running going into that whole system. 1043 00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:39.840 But yeah, that's my philosophy. Go to it. Get a 1044 00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:42.280 twelve vult to sixteen vault adapter and one that's not 1045 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:46.280 terribly noisy. I prefer the Lind electronics because they're ultra 1046 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:49.000 rugged and some of them are dual power source, like 1047 00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:51.679 one ten AC plus twelve vault TC. 1048 00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:56.360 Now I'm starting to come to the thought of I'm 1049 00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:59.360 just going to be getting aa US one that charges 1050 00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:03.719 off the USB because I already have plugs USBC plugs 1051 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.880 and the higher vault is USBC plugs on my system 1052 00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:11.320 already and that's always in my bag. Instead of trying 1053 00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:14.159 to get another twelve volt and get the adapter, why 1054 00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.039 don't just go with a standard, and that's kind of 1055 00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:19.239 where I'm leaning right now, and just charge everything off 1056 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:23.360 the USBC. Make sure it's the USB three or the 1057 00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:25.199 newer standard in Colin day. 1058 00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:28.840 The PD. So the machine that we're using, and I 1059 00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.079 haven't socialized this too much because it's not a good 1060 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:35.679 field notebook. This is the Dell seventy two to twenty, 1061 00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.920 the Dell seventy two twenty. It's a tablet and there's 1062 00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.320 a keyboard for it that Dell makes. It's terrible because 1063 00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:44.320 it has a kickstand on the back. I swap mine 1064 00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:46.519 out with this Ike keyboard, which has a hinge that 1065 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:49.079 allows it to just stay where its app But the 1066 00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:51.400 nice thing about this guy is that it uses us. 1067 00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:54.480 It will take in I think it's twenty vaults from 1068 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:57.280 that guy, nineteen or twenty volts. But you can also 1069 00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:01.119 charge and run it off of us b C power delivery, 1070 00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:04.960 so you can use your little I use my batteries 1071 00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:08.000 for example, like the for the RVU. We standardize on 1072 00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:11.840 eighteen volt REO B batteries for everything, and I've got 1073 00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:14.320 a little guy that plops right on top of those contacts, 1074 00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:18.000 and I'll use that for PD. So that's another option 1075 00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:19.639 if you don't want to deal with twelve volt is 1076 00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:25.840 find a USBC capable power delivery small form factor machine 1077 00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:26.400 for the field. 1078 00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:31.199 It's just another art tool in our kit. And I 1079 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.000 think just be easier for me just to standardize it 1080 00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:36.360 around the twelve volt the PD because I already have 1081 00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:40.159 one of the connectors, and all the battery boxes have 1082 00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:42.639 the USB connectors on them. 1083 00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:44.920 We install them so well, you get some of those 1084 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.840 little power banks now that'll do up to like they'll 1085 00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:51.440 do twelve or fifteen, maybe even eighteen volts through power 1086 00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.000 delivery with USBC, so you can you can get some 1087 00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:57.199 stuff like that. It's much smaller than carrying around a 1088 00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.800 battery box. But I always have battery box with me anyway, 1089 00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:02.719 but you know I wouldn't go rocking with one. To 1090 00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:06.079 go back to that conversation, so all right, Frank, Yeah, 1091 00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:08.559 let's do some uh let's let's do some questions. 1092 00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:11.559 So I think we kind of tackled on what hardware 1093 00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:15.039 this is running. Do you have just any like requirements 1094 00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:18.360 because you're kind of leaving it open, do you have 1095 00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:22.679 like minimum requirements RAM hard drive spabes go for it. 1096 00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:25.519 Yeah, And it's mostly because I have a vision so 1097 00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.519 people keep on asking me about features, I'm not taking 1098 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:32.960 any feature request because I've done development on the commercial version, 1099 00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:35.679 which I'm pulling parts, so there's a whole off gride 1100 00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:39.519 offline mapping component that's coming. So the requirements that I'm 1101 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.440 giving people now are for the future needs that it's 1102 00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.199 going to be. So when R four or five, R six, 1103 00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:48.280 those releases come out, and I'm planning on doing an 1104 00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:52.599 R or release roughly every quarter to move the need 1105 00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:58.840 and they'll have themes. So right now, if the minimum 1106 00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:00.719 you want is a one hundred and two eight gig 1107 00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:04.800 SSD drive, perfectly an M two. If you're going to 1108 00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:07.760 dual boot, which I do not recommend because of Windows 1109 00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:11.159 hijacking the bootloader on updates, you want to look at 1110 00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:14.360 least at two fifty six to five twelve if that's 1111 00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:18.840 your requirement. Personally, these days, I'm only looking at systems 1112 00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:21.159 that are have two hundred and fifty six gigs because 1113 00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:24.119 I just plan to run it. In terms of memory, 1114 00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:27.239 it can run with less. I found that out with 1115 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.559 the Pine Phone. It technically does work on three gigabytes 1116 00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.360 of RAM, but I will be doing lots of memory management, 1117 00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:37.559 memory mapping the future So the hard recommendation is if 1118 00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:39.920 you want to buy something now and have it work 1119 00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:41.840 in a release that comes out two years from now 1120 00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:44.280 or a year and a half from now, eight gigs 1121 00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:50.440 of RAM, and then for CPU, I run a ton 1122 00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:55.559 of iCore five or iCore or I five core processors. 1123 00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.599 You know, two to four cores is fine. If you're 1124 00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:03.000 looking at the Panasonics, I will tell you avoid all 1125 00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:05.360 of the early Mark versions. So if you're getting a 1126 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:10.599 Panasonic FZM one, the nine inch one, the Mark one 1127 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:12.280 will work. In fact, I'm running the Mark one for 1128 00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.760 the BBS and it's been up and running for close 1129 00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:17.400 to one hundred days by itself. The Mark two is 1130 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:21.800 the sweet spot. It runs really nicely. If you want 1131 00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:24.320 to get the Ike keyboard, don't get the Mark three. 1132 00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:26.519 They don't mate. So for me, if I can make 1133 00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:30.079 a recommendation and you want the small form factor tablet, 1134 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:33.239 I would get the Mark two. For the f zg 1135 00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.480 G ones, I would say try to find either a 1136 00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:39.039 Mark four or a Mark five the later models, not 1137 00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:42.239 the one, two or three. But rule of thumb, if 1138 00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:44.119 you're not going to be running rugged as hardware, I 1139 00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:46.599 get that not everybody does what I do, but m 1140 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:51.800 come tools designed for for kind of that operating delivery level. 1141 00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:55.559 Get yourself a del that will run a Buntu twenty 1142 00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:58.000 two ten again, anything in the last ten years that 1143 00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:01.480 sixty four bit Intel should work. That's the only other 1144 01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:05.639 hard requirement. This is sixty four bit only until architecture. 1145 01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.039 My FCG one is a Mark three, So you think 1146 01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:11.519 it won't run on that or not. 1147 01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:15.159 Well it will. No, it'll be fine. But if you're 1148 01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:17.559 looking at like eBay for example, to source these, and 1149 01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:19.239 you're trying to figure out do I spend the extra 1150 01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:21.639 twenty bucks thirty bucks whatever that Rialta is. 1151 01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:29.679 Yeah, okay, I lost you, Gastone, No. 1152 01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:34.559 He's oh yeah, no audio, No audio, Gastone. 1153 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:38.360 I don't think you can hear us either, I know, right, 1154 01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:39.199 Can you hear him? 1155 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:45.119 Frank? No, Well I got Pandora growing in my ears? 1156 01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:48.159 No, no, no audio. 1157 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:50.360 For me. 1158 01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:53.280 Yeah, you're back everything? Okay, Yeah, I can hear you 1159 01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:54.960 now everything you just said. We couldn't hear you. 1160 01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:59.199 Oh when did I drop out? Or what was the 1161 01:00:59.239 --> 01:00:59.920 last thing you heard? 1162 01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:04.119 Right after I said that I have the Mark three 1163 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:06.239 on the FCG one and you said it to work. 1164 01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.199 Just that that delta of if it's only twenty bucks 1165 01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:11.960 more than you're gonna want, you know, the later one. 1166 01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:17.760 Yeah. So there's a company or the guy Bob Johnson's 1167 01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:25.320 computer stuff. Look him up and type in ceial look 1168 01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:29.679 up or mark look up, and he has for every 1169 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:33.320 Panasonic that's out there, like the CF thirty three's, the twenties, 1170 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:36.119 the f ZM ones, the g ones. He's got a 1171 01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:39.360 way to look up the cereal and tell you whether 1172 01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.480 you have a Mark one, two, three, four or five 1173 01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.400 because it's not always obvious. And if you go find 1174 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.480 a seller, ask them for the serial number so you 1175 01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:52.199 could verify that what you're getting is actually my case, 1176 01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:55.400 I wanted an f ZM one Mark two because I 1177 01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:58.039 had the ones for so many years and I wanted 1178 01:01:58.079 --> 01:01:59.519 to verify it. He sent me the serial number. I 1179 01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:02.480 looked it up. Maybe I can find it at some 1180 01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:03.480 point here for you guys. 1181 01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:05.960 And I have that little Ikea what do you call 1182 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:07.159 an ikea keyboard? 1183 01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:08.840 Ike keyboard? 1184 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:12.400 Ike Yeah, yeah, the Ikey, that's right. Yeah. I took 1185 01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:14.000 that thing off. I got to where I just it 1186 01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:18.800 made the it made the kit to bulky and it works. 1187 01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:21.320 It works great. It's nice in waterproof. I mean you're 1188 01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:22.920 not going to do any fast typing on it because 1189 01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.639 the way those keys are just kind of like beneath 1190 01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.239 the kneaprint or whatever that is. But I mean it 1191 01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:31.480 works fine. I just the last time I took it out, 1192 01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:36.519 and I beautiful use with that thing with wsjt X 1193 01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:38.719 and FT eight with the d R eight ninety one 1194 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.159 from digirig on my FT eight ninety one from Yazoo 1195 01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:43.800 and PoTA with that all day long, no problem. And 1196 01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:45.400 I just I didn't like the keyboard. 1197 01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:48.400 I just I don't know, so I'll disagree there for 1198 01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:50.960 one reason. I don't like carrying the keyboard, and that's 1199 01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:53.599 why part of what I'm doing in the later releases 1200 01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:57.400 is to rebuild the applications to be touch first and 1201 01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:03.000 mobile friendly and just use the existing back ends. Try 1202 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:06.760 doing JSA call on an f ZM one on a 1203 01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:10.719 seven inch screen without a keyboard and mouse, and that's 1204 01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:13.119 my go to you mode, especially since I rock the 1205 01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:17.840 true SDX dealing QRP, that's the mode that really is 1206 01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:20.719 best suited for it. So for me personally, I've run 1207 01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:23.400 in to an issue. If you don't want the ike keyboard, 1208 01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:25.880 hold on one second, let me show you what I'm running. 1209 01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:33.199 All right, that's quick. 1210 01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:35.719 Yeah. 1211 01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.920 It also looks like we have someone connecting with Vervara 1212 01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:39.440 HF to the BBS right now. 1213 01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:41.159 Oh nice, okay, good. 1214 01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.239 This is this little guy right here. They running about 1215 01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:46.280 twenty five bucks on. 1216 01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:48.679 Oh yeah, I used to have one of those. I 1217 01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:50.119 may still have one around here somewhere. 1218 01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:54.000 They work exceptionally well with the FCM one. So this 1219 01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:56.199 is what I run in the RV. So for the RV, 1220 01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:59.960 I use am comfortable. I also have an offline map 1221 01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:03.880 for the entire Southwest with turn by turn directions since 1222 01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:07.039 they also have the off grid plug and play for GPS. 1223 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:10.639 Occasionally I want to do jsa call using the HF 1224 01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:14.519 antenna on the RV while I'm in motion, and I'll 1225 01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:17.280 pull out this guy. So I've got this thing mounted 1226 01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:19.880 so I could use it like map thing, and it's 1227 01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:22.960 really usable. The mouse integrated here is really nice. It's 1228 01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:29.480 RII and they're twenty five bucks and they're USBC chargeable, 1229 01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:31.760 so it's just in line with all the other gear. 1230 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:34.039 So this will save you a ton of money. Because 1231 01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:37.599 the IKE keyboards when I was selling them, I was 1232 01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:40.079 selling mine for three hundred and eighty dollars a pop, 1233 01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:42.960 which is cheaper than even some of the US once 1234 01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:47.440 people are pushing. So twenty five bucks versus four hundred 1235 01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:50.920 dollars shipped is something that people may want to consider 1236 01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:52.800 for sure. 1237 01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:56.639 Yeah, okay, good Frank, do we have anything else. 1238 01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:04.400 I'm scrolling through here? Can you do APRS through income Tools? Yeah? 1239 01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:07.280 I showed that. Yeah, it works right out of the box. 1240 01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:08.920 That was one of the first modes. And let me 1241 01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:11.480 give you a spoiler. So in the commercial version of 1242 01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:13.920 m com Tools, which I never released but I'm porting over, 1243 01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:20.800 I wrote a custom faster map and I also extended 1244 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:25.360 APRS the YAK the yet another APRS client three and 1245 01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:28.760 a half years, four years ago, and I wrote a 1246 01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:33.119 API HTTP API to expose everything it does. And in 1247 01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:35.679 the early versions of m com Tools I showed on 1248 01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:39.079 the channel, I wrote my own interface to do it. 1249 01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:41.840 So there's going to be some high speed mapping, more 1250 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:45.480 streamlined messaging. But again this is just this stuff is 1251 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:50.159 coming much later after I get the core platform completely 1252 01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:54.519 done and it's bulletproof, plug and play. But yes, it 1253 01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:56.519 does support it right now. It supports it in the 1254 01:05:56.679 --> 01:06:00.400 R three release, the release that's out on the community 1255 01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:01.679 dot m comtol site. 1256 01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:05.920 Now, if I go ahead and follow these instructions here 1257 01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:09.039 on that website and install R three, yep, and then 1258 01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:11.400 you release our four in April or May or whatever 1259 01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:15.679 it is, how do I have to start from scratch 1260 01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:17.360 over again or is it upgradeable? 1261 01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:21.480 There's no upgrade path. And one of the four principles 1262 01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:23.960 of m com tools is keep it simple stupid the 1263 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.719 and that applies not only to the user operations but 1264 01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.519 to the way it was implemented. So it's one radio 1265 01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:34.239 only at a time, one mode at a time, very simple. 1266 01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:37.119 But it was also designed where I did not want 1267 01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:39.800 to spend my time saying, oh, I'm on R two 1268 01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:42.400 and I want to jump to R four or five, 1269 01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:44.400 and I have to figure out what are all the changes. 1270 01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:46.920 So what you can do is, if you have R 1271 01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:49.320 three installed, all of the tools to build the new 1272 01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:51.800 image are available to you. So all you have to 1273 01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:55.760 do is start cubic, which is the image built tool, 1274 01:06:56.440 --> 01:06:59.440 download the one thing in there and rebuild it and 1275 01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:02.840 then write that image to another USB drive. And the 1276 01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:04.800 cool thing about that approach is you can keep AR 1277 01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:09.840 three installed, shut it down, boot into the R four 1278 01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:11.960 image that you built and do it in the try 1279 01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:14.679 it now mode in that in memory mode, and you 1280 01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:16.639 can test to see if everything still works, and if 1281 01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:19.800 it does, then you can make the decision. And as 1282 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:23.039 part of our four I also added tools called et 1283 01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:27.559 user Backup and et User Restore, so you can back 1284 01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:31.280 up all of your files. In fact, I can show 1285 01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.000 this real quick and you could restore it so you 1286 01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:35.079 don't have to worry about losing emails and a bunch 1287 01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:38.800 of other stuff. All right, let me share my screen here. 1288 01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:42.800 So again, this is command line that it will be 1289 01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:47.000 an app in the future. So you saw that when 1290 01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:49.960 I started winlink, I had all of those emails, right, Yeah, 1291 01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:56.320 I can run this one command ET user backup and 1292 01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:58.280 it's going to tell you that it's only going to 1293 01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:01.039 back up all of the mcome. Tools can fig in 1294 01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:04.639 two locations, and it'll also fully backup Pat, so any 1295 01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:06.920 in any emails you've had it with Pat, all of 1296 01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:09.960 that stuff, and then you can ask it if you 1297 01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.000 want to see all the files. I'll do no, and 1298 01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:18.720 let me do that one again. Oh, it's already created it, 1299 01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:20.880 so it creates this file for you and you can 1300 01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:22.840 run this as many times and create as many backups 1301 01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:25.199 as you want. But when you go now on a 1302 01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:27.680 new indem image, you just copied this over to it. 1303 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:33.840 And there's another command called et user restore. And the 1304 01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:36.239 guys in my group have been testing this and it 1305 01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:41.039 will I don't have any backups here et use restore. Well, 1306 01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:42.880 I think I broke something there. There should have been 1307 01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:44.880 a backup there. But it gives you the ability to 1308 01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:48.399 pick which one that's on either a connected US spe drive. 1309 01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:51.279 It'll scan it and then allow you to restore it, 1310 01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:53.800 and you can run it multiple times. So like if 1311 01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:56.800 I have email on my field notebook, one on my 1312 01:08:56.840 --> 01:08:59.199 shack station, one in the RV, I could do a 1313 01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:03.079 backup from all three and then restore them all on 1314 01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:05.319 one machine and I get the union or all of 1315 01:09:05.319 --> 01:09:08.279 the email inbox messages from all three systems now on 1316 01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:10.279 one machine. Yeah, so it was a fun. 1317 01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:11.880 Lit It was kind of cool. Yeah, that's kind of 1318 01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:13.800 cool to have be able to do that with with 1319 01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:15.840 Windley for sure. Okay, good. 1320 01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:19.439 So it's there's a very deliberate philosophy and everything. It's 1321 01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:21.920 like everything should be easy to use, easy to restore, 1322 01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:24.960 if it's never been configured, you should be able to 1323 01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:28.960 get up and running it under five minutes on first install. 1324 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:35.199 So whatich version of this is a custom Linux install 1325 01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:39.239 image you're building? What version of Linux you you recommend using? Again, 1326 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:43.520 I saw it several different times, so I'm just read. 1327 01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:45.640 So the only thing that's ever going to be supported 1328 01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:52.600 is Ubuntu, and the reason for it is that for 1329 01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:55.279 income tools to work the way it does, I've had 1330 01:09:55.279 --> 01:09:58.600 to customize at least one hundred different areas of the 1331 01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:03.560 operating system. There were actually kernel issues that existed, there 1332 01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:08.039 were driver issues that existed, there were broken GPS implementation, 1333 01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:10.640 and I patch all of that stuff on top of 1334 01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:14.239 Ubuntu twenty two dot ten. So it's an appliance and 1335 01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:16.680 a full operating system. People are like, well, you're going 1336 01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:18.520 to miss out on the next greatest version of a 1337 01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:20.479 boon too. It's like, well, now I have to go 1338 01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:23.039 and figure out is the kernel still broken? Is this 1339 01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:27.760 still broken? And there's no value because everything works and 1340 01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:30.880 for example, the applications themselves in a lot of cases 1341 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:33.800 all compile everything. So if there's a new version of 1342 01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:38.039 diur Wolf, for example, for packet, it's already I can 1343 01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:41.520 recompile it on that version and I do that myself. 1344 01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:43.199 I have all the scripts for doing all that stuff 1345 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:45.880 behind you or behind the scenes for you. So yeah, 1346 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.960 Ubuntu twenty two dot ten, it's non negotiable. The only 1347 01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:51.960 area where I'm giving on that just a little bit 1348 01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:56.039 is Mobian twelve because there's so much value in having 1349 01:10:56.039 --> 01:11:01.560 the platform, but I can't support twenty different Linux distributions 1350 01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:05.560 across every single update. There's no way to test that stuff. 1351 01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:08.720 So that's the other thing. Whenever I do a major release, 1352 01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:12.119 I test every radio in every mode. It takes me 1353 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.600 an entire weekend to connect the seven oh five. I 1354 01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:18.800 unplug the seven oh five and hit up all ten modes, 1355 01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:21.800 then go and get the UV pro, then go get 1356 01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:24.880 the digi rig with the digit rigged laying. So I 1357 01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:27.840 do all of that end to end testing. And that's 1358 01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:30.199 the reason why I also right now I'm not really 1359 01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:34.760 accepting full requests from other people. Is not to say no, 1360 01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:36.760 I don't have the time to review it, and those 1361 01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:40.479 other people are only concerned about their one feature. And again, 1362 01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:42.479 the whole goal for what I'm doing is to have 1363 01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:48.159 an appliance, turnkey appliance. In fact, don't even think of 1364 01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:51.319 it as Linux. It's just this is an appliance. Don't 1365 01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:54.039 worry it's an implementation detailed. The fact that it runs 1366 01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:56.000 on a boon too, and the fact that it runs 1367 01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.319 on a specific version of a Boon two, So think 1368 01:11:58.319 --> 01:11:59.039 of it like a toaster. 1369 01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:00.920 What's your website again. 1370 01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:06.680 Community dot mcomtools dot com and the site will be 1371 01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:10.600 updated updated completely next month when our four comes out. 1372 01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:14.319 And you know, for the Byman Coffee members, what I 1373 01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:16.920 do is we do this thing called the TTP nerd Hour, 1374 01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:21.159 and we'll do behind the scenes work. I'll show them 1375 01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:25.359 previews of all the intermittent builds that users shouldn't be using. 1376 01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:27.359 But there's a group that just wants to see what 1377 01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:29.920 I build, you know, every couple of weeks, so they 1378 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.399 follow along very light on the support. Again, I try 1379 01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:37.680 my best to introduce no bugs. I did kind of 1380 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:40.399 mangle the last release because of the complexity of bringing 1381 01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:43.840 in Vara. So the Vara support is one hundred percent 1382 01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:47.479 experimental and will be forever. And the reason for it 1383 01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:51.279 is that Vara was very much a concession for that community, 1384 01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:55.560 and mcome tools does not behave the same way it 1385 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:57.920 does with the mode Switcher as it does with Vara, 1386 01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:01.239 because Var is a Windows app. To run in the foreground, 1387 01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:03.680 you have to configure all these things. So it's the 1388 01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:07.039 only app or set of applications that's not zero can 1389 01:13:07.039 --> 01:13:09.279 fig and it's nothing that I did. It's just the 1390 01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:12.239 fact that it's a Windows application and it breaks the model. 1391 01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:15.800 But there is value. So there is experimental support coming 1392 01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:18.479 in in the release, and I won't be supporting any 1393 01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:20.720 questions or issues. I mean, that's kind of where it's at. 1394 01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:25.159 It works, but there won't be any bug fixes for 1395 01:13:25.199 --> 01:13:30.199 the most part. So but yeah, if you guys want 1396 01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:34.439 just a turnkey solution for our dot packet, you know 1397 01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:39.399 those other modes, it works well. I tested every time 1398 01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:42.159 I go out nice. 1399 01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:44.399 Yep, I'm gonna have to. I think I might go 1400 01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:46.239 out there and grab it for I might wait till 1401 01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:47.159 April though for the R. 1402 01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.960 Force, I would wait. Yeah, you get the good stuff, 1403 01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:52.720 but again, if you ship it to me, I'll give 1404 01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:54.520 it to you turnkey, so you could just kind of 1405 01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:58.800 get the raw experience and just connect it up. And 1406 01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:02.119 the other cool thing is when you run et radio 1407 01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:03.479 and let's say you pick what do you do you 1408 01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:05.079 have right now that you want to use with it? 1409 01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:09.520 Pick one. Man Freddy's in there asking about the IC 1410 01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:11.960 seven or six Mark two G and correct me if 1411 01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:13.920 I'm wrong. But it'll work with anything that dig you 1412 01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:15.039 rig supports, right. 1413 01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:20.239 It will. If you want the CAT control to work, 1414 01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:23.720 there is a configuration file you have to put in, okay, 1415 01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:27.960 and that's how the eight five seven, the eight ninety seven, 1416 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:30.439 that's how all of those work. But yeah, if it 1417 01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:32.079 works with the did you rig. If you don't need 1418 01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:34.119 the CAT control, you can run it in what we 1419 01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:38.279 call did you rig no cat and all you have 1420 01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:40.079 to do is tune the VFO but it'll detect the 1421 01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:44.720 audio interface and do all the things for you. But yeah, 1422 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:47.800 did you rig is the Actually this project would not 1423 01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:50.119 have been released if it wasn't for the dig you 1424 01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:53.039 rig because it's like the Swiss Army Night if it's 1425 01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:56.960 a consistent interface. Because I actually checked the hardware. When 1426 01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:00.399 you plug in and unplug, it actually will see what 1427 01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:03.000 radio is configured, and it will auto configure all the 1428 01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:06.840 devices for you, and then all the applications. It reconfigures 1429 01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:11.079 every application on every start based on the radio, and 1430 01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:12.800 the digit rig made all of that possible. 1431 01:15:13.319 --> 01:15:18.439 Nice's a didgibrig is a fantastic product, good several of them. 1432 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:23.439 I don't have any more questions. There were a lot 1433 01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:25.279 of them, but there are a lot of repeats, and 1434 01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:27.880 I kind of smashed some of them into each other. So 1435 01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:29.399 that's about it for me. 1436 01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:35.640 You guys curious about the pine Phone stuff? Yeah, if 1437 01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:39.479 you watch, Yeah, I haven't figured out how to share 1438 01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:41.319 the screen, so I'll tell you guys. So my goal 1439 01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:44.920 always has been to be a communicator, and I want 1440 01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:47.399 the thing that allows me to eat e C. It's 1441 01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:50.359 a pain to always carry a seven inch or nine 1442 01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:53.880 inch tablet with you, it's yeah, right, But if you 1443 01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:58.800 have a phone and you have your ht uh, you're 1444 01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:01.279 good to go. I know it's getting better and Android 1445 01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:05.800 in iOS with things like radio mail on Windows and 1446 01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:09.119 APRS or sorry iOS and then APRS dot Fi and 1447 01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:13.840 all of those things. But things like JSA call for example, 1448 01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:18.359 don't work. So this is the pine Phone Beta again, 1449 01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:20.640 Please do not go out and buy it. This thing's 1450 01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:22.720 already showing me its words. 1451 01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:30.520 But that specific one is currently out of stock, the beta. 1452 01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:33.560 So that is it the one that's listed for one Yes, 1453 01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:37.319 so you can get the beta if you get it 1454 01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:39.199 with the breakout board for one night with. 1455 01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:41.000 The nine Okay, I see yeah, I see that one 1456 01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:43.000 as well. Okay, yeah, so you can get the yeah 1457 01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:46.399 nine for what the breakout board or the pro is 1458 01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:49.079 three to ninety nine. It looks like so yeah, okay. 1459 01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:51.199 So yeah, I bought two. I bought actually I bought 1460 01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:53.680 one pro before I released the video, and then I 1461 01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:56.560 bought a second pro on the used market before this 1462 01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:00.680 meeting because someone had a pine phone keyboard, which are 1463 01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:03.279 unobtainedingum and they bundle them together. So I bought that. 1464 01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:08.960 So I'm gonna test the case keyboardist as a fun thing. Okay, 1465 01:17:09.359 --> 01:17:13.079 So I'm gonna log in here. And what I found 1466 01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:18.119 most impressive about this is that Mobian is a full 1467 01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:21.199 Debian distribution. Everything you can do on Linux you can 1468 01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:24.000 do on this phone. But I mean, as you can see, 1469 01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:26.279 I'm still trying to log in. 1470 01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:28.840 So do you not have a SIM card or Wi 1471 01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:30.520 Fi on that phone? If you're if you're trying it 1472 01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:33.079 to be if you're trying to keep it off grid 1473 01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:36.399 like the tablet, are you not using that phone phone? 1474 01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:40.680 Yeah, there's a there's an LTE module. I don't have 1475 01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:43.039 it in here. This is offline and it doesn't even 1476 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:46.800 need to be connected to Wi Fi. It's got some 1477 01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:49.399 cool features. So we're going to open up the console 1478 01:17:49.439 --> 01:17:51.439 here and I did this today in the back country 1479 01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:54.960 and it was just wild. So hopefully you can kind 1480 01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:59.760 of see some of that right and focus. Yeah, that's 1481 01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:00.520 the terminal. 1482 01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:01.600 It looks like the terminal. 1483 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:06.720 Yeah, but I can now go and for example, there's 1484 01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:09.920 this command here ax call to connect to the BBS 1485 01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:12.359 like we did. I don't know of any other phone 1486 01:18:12.439 --> 01:18:15.760 right now or app on any platform that allows you 1487 01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:19.199 to do packet work to connect to just a bulletin 1488 01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:23.680 board system or go peer to peer just doesn't exist. 1489 01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:26.479 So I'm going to now try to see if we 1490 01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:30.479 can connect to the UV pro and we get the 1491 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:36.560 same instructions as we did earlier on the full laptop 1492 01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:42.840 and we'll see if it actually pairs here. And so 1493 01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:45.920 the point is what I'm doing here is it shows potential, 1494 01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:49.039 and if this turns out to be success, I'm going 1495 01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:52.079 to be developing all of the front end graphical applications 1496 01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:56.880 to be touch friendly for tablet and laptop, but also 1497 01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:58.840 design them at the same time so that they work 1498 01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:01.680 on the phone. So it's not that I'm adding more 1499 01:19:01.720 --> 01:19:05.479 work to myself. It's the application now will work on 1500 01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:08.560 all three screen devices. By Virtue of having access to 1501 01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:11.960 this at the same time. So we're going to go 1502 01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:13.720 and try to connect to the BBS. I'm gonna do 1503 01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:16.119 this in real time. You guys, let me know if 1504 01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:19.800 it says ttpbbsy is connected. 1505 01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:21.880 Yeah, that's connected, right, Uh huh yep. 1506 01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:22.239 Yeah. 1507 01:19:22.279 --> 01:19:26.119 So I use this to post a message on the 1508 01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:28.520 BBS to a friend while I was out four miles 1509 01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.199 from the house. Did not have to have any kind 1510 01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:34.399 of special hardware. So there's a lot of potential early on. 1511 01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:36.039 Like I said, the biggest challenge I think we're going 1512 01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:39.640 to have with the pine Phone is going to be 1513 01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:44.960 the battery life. Because one thing I found with this 1514 01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:48.560 is this phone wants to if you're not touching it, 1515 01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:51.319 it's inactive. It's doing some type of long lived session 1516 01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:54.600 for like jsa call or wind link. It will go 1517 01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:57.680 into the lock screen and then all of a sudden 1518 01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:00.800 that connection gets dropped. So I've had go and turn 1519 01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:04.279 off all of the things that say hey, if I'm inactive, 1520 01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:08.479 don't do anything, don't lock me out, and I've turned 1521 01:20:08.520 --> 01:20:11.199 on all the power things to be on full blast, 1522 01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:13.079 just like MCom tools is right, because you want to 1523 01:20:13.119 --> 01:20:15.039 do your mode. You want to make sure it's successful 1524 01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:18.640 and you don't want to stop. So I killed the 1525 01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:21.399 battery life very quickly because I don't want it to 1526 01:20:21.640 --> 01:20:23.760 operate like I'm a normal phone. You haven't touched me. 1527 01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:27.159 Let's go back into the lock screen and hibernate. So 1528 01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:30.720 don't buy this phone right now. I'm a day and 1529 01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:34.600 a half into proving this concept out and I'm taking 1530 01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:36.439 it slow. Now that I know that I can plug 1531 01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:38.600 it a digitirach and it sees it, and I could 1532 01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:40.960 do the plug and plate and it sees it, It's like, okay, 1533 01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:45.039 Now I could spend one thousand hours developing one application 1534 01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:48.239 at a time to dial in that experience with the 1535 01:20:48.279 --> 01:20:51.920 goal of just having the lightest weight edc kit. So yeah, 1536 01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:55.880 that's the pine Phone why I'm working on in parallel. 1537 01:20:58.399 --> 01:21:03.680 Sweet. That's great, man, I am awesome. 1538 01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:07.039 Man, you're smashing all the comments. I'm not seeing some 1539 01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:09.239 of these because I'm just looking for the questions and 1540 01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:12.600 trying to point and spawn people. But you got two 1541 01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:15.560 guys already. I was like, how did I not see that? 1542 01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:17.880 And already No, it's fine, Yeah, it's fine. 1543 01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:19.039 Yeah. 1544 01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:20.720 Part of the reason is I spent a lot of 1545 01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:23.560 time with the buy me a coffee. Guys, when I 1546 01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:26.840 took seven weeks sabbatical and these questions came up over 1547 01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:29.359 and over, so I've been long winded. Not to be 1548 01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:33.640 long winded, I preemptibly answered, get a mark two if 1549 01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:35.640 you're gonna get this one, get a mark four or 1550 01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:38.600 five if you're in g one get it's this tuff 1551 01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:39.680 comes up a lot. 1552 01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:45.399 And yeah, kate E six g a E wants to 1553 01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:47.680 know if his message came through the Vora terminal. 1554 01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:52.159 Oh uh, you know, I'm gonna check it on the phone. 1555 01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:54.119 That might be fun. There you go, let me see 1556 01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:56.399 if we can do this. Hold on a second here, Yeah, yeah, 1557 01:21:56.479 --> 01:21:58.399 this will be fun. Let me see if I can 1558 01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:00.680 go and reconnect again. And I wish I could show this 1559 01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:03.920 to you guys. I just haven't figured out well, I 1560 01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:05.039 mean toolgit. 1561 01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:08.119 Yeah, if it's not if you don't have an Internet 1562 01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:10.359 connection with it, then you can't open zoom and connect. 1563 01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:12.520 But otherwise you could open zoom and connect. 1564 01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:14.840 Oh no, but I can connect to it from one 1565 01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:17.000 of my other radios here, which is kind. 1566 01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:19.560 Of yeah, you could do that all right, So let me. 1567 01:22:19.520 --> 01:22:22.520 Go and list my messages. Hold on standby here. It 1568 01:22:22.600 --> 01:22:28.039 is pretty quick. Over twelve hundred block packet. Yep, new user, 1569 01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:30.399 hold on, hold on, there are a few users here. 1570 01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:39.680 Let me do list last four messages. There are a 1571 01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:44.399 few people. And that was my commitment to I told 1572 01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:45.840 the guys on buying me a cof At least for 1573 01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:47.960 the buy me a coffee guys, I'm going to give 1574 01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.800 away to the members two var licenses every month, and 1575 01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:54.399 I'm buying ten at a time, and this will be 1576 01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:56.800 my tenth license from the first batch. So let me 1577 01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:58.279 list the last three one more time. 1578 01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:01.359 Here we were, we were messing around with var HF 1579 01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:02.920 at winterfield Day, and I think I'm just gonna go 1580 01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:06.359 buy myself a license too. Oh it's worth it, man, Yeah, 1581 01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:07.159 it's pretty cool. 1582 01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:11.840 You have the bio license for that. 1583 01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:15.159 You don't have to, but it's it's like it opens 1584 01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:17.479 up a lot of features. It's like, okay, well you 1585 01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:18.840 can use the free version, but. 1586 01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:21.840 You don't get the nag screen, which is really obnoxious 1587 01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:23.479 that it pops up every time you do a connection. 1588 01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:27.159 If you're on a win link connection, it'll drop you 1589 01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:30.239 after five minutes, regardless if it's finished what it's doing. 1590 01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:33.239 The modem just co oh, that's terrible. Oh yeah, I 1591 01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:34.439 found that hard away. 1592 01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:36.039 Yeah, yeah, wait for. 1593 01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:38.399 Do a five minute session. If you get as much 1594 01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:41.319 email as I do on wind Link, you'll find out 1595 01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:42.000 pretty quickly. 1596 01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:45.039 I'm working on it, man, I just yeah, I'm working 1597 01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:46.680 on trying to get more and more on wind Link. 1598 01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:50.279 I got I got your message, A guess done about 1599 01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:54.640 your bag KQ four h z K. I got your 1600 01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:57.359 message on wind Link this evening as well, So thank 1601 01:23:57.399 --> 01:23:57.760 you on that. 1602 01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:00.720 So I've got the screen is tiny, and I haven't 1603 01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:02.760 figured out the scroll lock. We actually have two people 1604 01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:08.720 that came in. Nope, no, three, Okay, guys, let's transition over. 1605 01:24:09.039 --> 01:24:10.479 Let's read all of them. If you got a second 1606 01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:11.800 in here, because I think that might be fun for 1607 01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:12.479 the people. 1608 01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:15.119 Let me all of their wind Link emails. 1609 01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:17.760 No, I've got too many BBS people. I had a 1610 01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:18.640 lot of people connect. 1611 01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:21.279 Oh oh good, okay, good good, good good. 1612 01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:24.000 And the screen is too small because it's not designed 1613 01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:27.119 for this. So we're gonna turn off the UV pro 1614 01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:33.319 turn it back on. We'll share the screen. And now 1615 01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:37.319 we're jumping computers, so we'll share that. We're gonna use 1616 01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:44.800 my okay, we'll do et UV pro connect. 1617 01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:47.520 Come on. 1618 01:24:48.399 --> 01:24:50.159 Well, I think it's gonna work because the way I 1619 01:24:50.199 --> 01:24:53.600 design them comforts that kills everything every single time. It 1620 01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:58.399 just hits it all with the hammer. It doesn't even. 1621 01:24:58.600 --> 01:24:58.880 Huh. 1622 01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:01.680 Okay, yeah, cool, Yeah, we're gonna be fine here. So 1623 01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:05.920 then we'll go in connect to the BBS. We'll go 1624 01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:13.439 right into it. We'll go let's list the last eight messages. 1625 01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:17.880 There were some housekeeping stuff there, so I'm gonna do 1626 01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:19.680 a video on this. But there's a ton of value 1627 01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:22.199 for this, especially if well, okay, yeah, there are a 1628 01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:26.319 few people. Okay, so it looks like there was a 1629 01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:31.279 The winner is Kilo Echo six golf Alpha echoes for 1630 01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:35.159 I'll send him a license. Okay, there was a new user, 1631 01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:39.199 so this is someone who connected k zero w A V. 1632 01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:42.159 Yeah, he's often in the chat on. 1633 01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:45.079 He was number two. You know what, I'm gonna go 1634 01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:48.039 ahead and purchase a bulk license another ten seats. I'll 1635 01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:52.159 send it to these two guys. Yes, I will send 1636 01:25:52.159 --> 01:25:54.560 it to both. So just give me this week and 1637 01:25:54.760 --> 01:25:57.359 I'll arrange it. And the cool thing is we can 1638 01:25:57.399 --> 01:25:59.319 see what they wrote. So on the left hand side 1639 01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:01.800 there you can see the Those are message IDs you 1640 01:26:01.840 --> 01:26:05.079 can type in read and let's take a look at, 1641 01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:08.880 hopefully the first one's PC free license. It's four sixty five, 1642 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:12.600 and I'm even going to be working on reimagining in 1643 01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:18.000 the BBS with a graphical experiences as a title free license. Hello, 1644 01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:19.760 my name is Dave, and trying this out for the 1645 01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:23.840 first time. Terminal use of var FM and HF for 1646 01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:26.239 a wind link. So yeah, that was his first connection. 1647 01:26:26.319 --> 01:26:30.840 The other cool thing here is if you're in the BBS, 1648 01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:34.079 not only can you leave messages for other people, but 1649 01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:36.800 I've got this area that I'm building to start hosting 1650 01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:40.399 what I'm going to call underground files. These are files 1651 01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:44.680 that maybe what I remember as a kid in the 1652 01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:48.680 mid nineties during the dallup areas. So I've been working 1653 01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:52.920 on writing up articles on how to defeat DRM, and 1654 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:55.199 I don't want to talk about them on YouTube here, 1655 01:26:56.000 --> 01:27:00.760 I don't want to post in public, but as a 1656 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:04.000 gift to people that connect, they can type in files 1657 01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:08.199 and they can read or download how to remove audible DRM. 1658 01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:12.720 And I've got stuff on how I did the firmware upgrade. 1659 01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:16.239 So my goal and public keys of a few of 1660 01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:18.800 the guys. We've got our net schedules here. I'm doing 1661 01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:21.520 all of my after action reports. So let's say that 1662 01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:26.239 we want to read how to defeat the DRM. So 1663 01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:29.079 I know it feels old school, but I'm very concerned 1664 01:27:29.159 --> 01:27:34.479 with where we're going with big tech and government oversight 1665 01:27:35.039 --> 01:27:39.039 and all of this. I'm going back thirty years to 1666 01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:42.119 be able to host very small bits of content. I 1667 01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:43.960 want to make it be a place where people come 1668 01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:46.640 and check in daily, and I want to provide value. 1669 01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:50.239 So instead of posting stuff online, I'm posting stuff here 1670 01:27:50.279 --> 01:27:53.119 now over radio, and it can be accessed over packet 1671 01:27:53.159 --> 01:27:59.960 locally here in Arizona, or over HF if we get propagate. 1672 01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:05.039 And it's all written using very simple plain text. So 1673 01:28:05.319 --> 01:28:07.119 I don't know if this is ever going to make comeback, 1674 01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:10.600 but hearing me stop it right there, I walk you 1675 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:13.960 through the process. So they'll be maybe lock picking articles. 1676 01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:17.800 They'll be how to defeat anything that might be a 1677 01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:22.439 gray area, and written as an academic exercise. How to 1678 01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:24.520 do encryption over radio. I know how to do it, 1679 01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:27.079 and I've done it on my business license, but I'm 1680 01:28:27.159 --> 01:28:31.439 specifically only going to post how to do encrypted image payloads, 1681 01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:36.640 how to use steganography, how to use wind link for encryption, 1682 01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:39.279 which I've already cracked again, I'm not advocating for anybody 1683 01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:41.600 to break the rules. I've done all of this via 1684 01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:45.479 my business license. But I want to incentivize people to 1685 01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:48.640 own their own data, own their own systems. And Google 1686 01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:51.960 can't do anything about this thing. You know, there's nothing 1687 01:28:52.039 --> 01:28:55.520 really illegal. It's just hey, here's an academic exercise on 1688 01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:56.399 this right up side. 1689 01:28:56.439 --> 01:28:58.159 Well, and there's something and we don't have to get 1690 01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:00.600 too deep into this, but there's something something to be 1691 01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:03.359 said for when you purchase something, do you own it 1692 01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:07.920 or not. Recently, recently Amazon stopped allowing you, like just 1693 01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:11.079 this last week, Amazon stopped allowing you to download your 1694 01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:14.479 books that you buy on Amazon, like I mean, in 1695 01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:18.840 other words, yeah, the Kindle books. Yeah, I used to 1696 01:29:18.880 --> 01:29:20.920 be able to download them. And there's some free software 1697 01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:23.840 out there that will transfer them to epub or mobile 1698 01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:26.039 files or a couple other ones, which I used to 1699 01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:27.479 do that all the time. I've got a bunch of 1700 01:29:27.520 --> 01:29:29.760 books that I you know, it'd be like it'd be 1701 01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:31.560 like going to Barnes and Noble buying a book and 1702 01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:33.000 then they come knock on your door a month later 1703 01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:34.560 saying we need that book back, but they're not going 1704 01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:36.960 to refund you for it. You know, it's like or 1705 01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:38.840 the book. You know, this book was self destruct in 1706 01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:39.800 thirty days or whatever. 1707 01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:43.439 So well, so it's kind of the same, that same 1708 01:29:43.479 --> 01:29:46.199 issue that with the e books. I'm like, shoot, I've 1709 01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:49.880 got three hundred and eighty audio books that I've been buying, yeah, 1710 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:52.239 month since two thousand and seven, and that's why I 1711 01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:55.279 wrote this article. So I started downloading. Well, no, I 1712 01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:58.239 did not do anything, but I wanted to understand how 1713 01:29:58.239 --> 01:30:02.239 it removed. But I didn't a DRM on audiobooks. 1714 01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:05.560 You used to be able to download DRM MP three's 1715 01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:09.960 from Amazon. When you would buy a new audio CD 1716 01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:13.000 from pick your favorite audio artist, you could go on 1717 01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:17.479 on Amazon and download DR. I probably have a thousand 1718 01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:21.319 DRM free MP three files that I bought ten, five, ten, 1719 01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:23.680 fifteen years ago, and I don't know if they still 1720 01:30:23.720 --> 01:30:25.319 do that or not, but it used to be really 1721 01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:27.439 easy to do that. And I'm like, man, I can't 1722 01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:31.680 believe they because because I absolutely loathe the iTunes, not 1723 01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:34.680 because it's Mac, but because iTunes the program. I haven't 1724 01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:36.279 used it in probably like ten or twelve years, but 1725 01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:38.920 the last time I used it was like absolutely corrid 1726 01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:42.680 on iTunes on Windows sucks. Trying to get music off 1727 01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:45.479 of an iPod completely sucks. I hate iTunes. 1728 01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:49.279 That's that's why I stopped buying anything iPhone related. I 1729 01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:52.000 write a couple iPhones. But then this is the experience 1730 01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:54.039 with iTunes, the story. 1731 01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:57.800 Right, exactly. Yeah, but used to be you could get 1732 01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:00.760 DRM free MP three's from Amazon, and I haven't checked 1733 01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:01.840 that in well, I don't know if they still do 1734 01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:04.000 that or not, but I always thought that was a 1735 01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:05.399 cool thing to do with this new thing. 1736 01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:09.720 Well, we also say services. When services go down, you 1737 01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:13.039 can't all your digital content you bought in your own 1738 01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:14.680 you can't get it. 1739 01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:17.199 Yeah right, yeah, right. 1740 01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:20.159 So there's a reason why a goodwill and good old 1741 01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:22.680 DVD or Blu ray player is amazing to have a 1742 01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:24.000 little library for yourself. 1743 01:31:24.359 --> 01:31:25.680 Yes, very true. 1744 01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:27.640 Yeah, but I hear the kids, he says, don't want 1745 01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:29.680 to own anything. I don't know if that's true. Maybe 1746 01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:31.039 I'm just getting older. 1747 01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:33.520 No, I've heard that too. They want to stream everything, 1748 01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:36.239 and then when when the stream when the when the 1749 01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:40.359 stream lags or you get out of we well to 1750 01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:42.880 eat five gen range or something, it stops working and 1751 01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:43.399 they get bad. 1752 01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:46.319 So I agree with that, But however, there's something to 1753 01:31:46.319 --> 01:31:48.520 be said just to buy pay for a library and 1754 01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:54.520 have instant access to everything versus buying everything piecemeal. Yeah, 1755 01:31:54.600 --> 01:31:57.119 and I'm okay once I stop paying that, oh, I 1756 01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:00.159 don't have access to the library anymore. It's just on 1757 01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:01.000 a way. 1758 01:32:01.039 --> 01:32:03.920 Here's the thing, right, Yeah, I have Amazon Prime is 1759 01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:06.520 probably most people do. I originally got it early on 1760 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:08.479 because you get the free shipping, you get the free 1761 01:32:08.479 --> 01:32:11.439 streaming without ads. That started to change, and I have 1762 01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:16.760 purchased movies over the last i don't know, five six years. 1763 01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:20.600 If I stopped paying that account, I no longer have 1764 01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:24.800 access to that twenty four and ninety nine you know 1765 01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:28.199 copy of Top Gun. It's like this is a BS. 1766 01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:28.640 Yeah. 1767 01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:31.199 If I went to the store and purchased that same 1768 01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:33.479 thing for about that price point, I would have it. 1769 01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:36.119 I could let someone else borrow of it. I could, 1770 01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:38.479 you know, use it as long as the Blu ray 1771 01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:39.479 players still working. 1772 01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:43.000 There's a service. There's a free service called Movies Anywhere. 1773 01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:46.800 I ran into that I started researching debt a few 1774 01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:49.520 years back. There's a free service called movies Anywhere. It 1775 01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:51.720 will it will audo. If you go buy a movie 1776 01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:55.199 on Amazon or on Hulu, or on YouTube or Google 1777 01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:59.479 or Apple TV or any of the services. You log 1778 01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:01.840 into Movies Anywhere, you log into all your accounts, and 1779 01:33:01.880 --> 01:33:04.680 when you buy a movie one place, it replicates them everywhere. 1780 01:33:05.279 --> 01:33:08.279 So if I turn if I turned off Amazon tomorrow, 1781 01:33:08.520 --> 01:33:11.119 I would have Now there's every now and then you'll 1782 01:33:11.119 --> 01:33:13.920 find a movie that, oh it's everywhere except on Apple, 1783 01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:16.560 or it's everywhere except on Hulu or something like that. 1784 01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:19.000 So it's not one hundred percent accurate, but it's probably 1785 01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:21.159 like ninety eight percent accurate. But if I turned off 1786 01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:23.199 Amazon tomorrow, all of my movies are still there in 1787 01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:25.119 my YouTube account or my Hulu account. 1788 01:33:25.439 --> 01:33:28.800 So do you want to link that service to all 1789 01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:29.760 of the other accounts? 1790 01:33:30.279 --> 01:33:33.039 Correct? Yeah, you create a free account on Movies Anywhere. 1791 01:33:33.479 --> 01:33:35.279 It's been a year, a few years since I've done this, 1792 01:33:35.479 --> 01:33:37.960 but when I go buy a new movie on Amazon, 1793 01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:40.199 I usually buy movies on Amazon. When I go buy 1794 01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:42.119 a new movie on Amazon, I can log into my 1795 01:33:42.119 --> 01:33:45.000 YouTube account and I can see it. So you create 1796 01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:47.840 an account Movies Anywhere, and then you log into your 1797 01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:50.600 all your services through that new account on Movies Anywhere, 1798 01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:54.159 and it just just auto. It's like cloud service almost 1799 01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:54.760 just auto. 1800 01:33:54.960 --> 01:33:57.880 Interesting, Now, is the price more expensive or is it 1801 01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:00.479 still what you would probably pay for that movie if 1802 01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:03.199 you went directly to Hulu or went directly. 1803 01:34:03.279 --> 01:34:05.239 So you don't buy them. You don't buy them through 1804 01:34:05.279 --> 01:34:07.439 movies anywhere. All that is is a sinking. 1805 01:34:07.159 --> 01:34:10.800 Service somehow sinks the license. 1806 01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:13.239 It sinks some it sinks all your accounts together. You're 1807 01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:16.680 still buying the movie on Amazon or on Hulu or wherever. 1808 01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:17.319 I have to look. 1809 01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:21.720 There's another there's another website out there and I can't 1810 01:34:21.720 --> 01:34:23.359 remember the name of it right now, where you could 1811 01:34:23.399 --> 01:34:25.960 buy movie codes like I went one time and I 1812 01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:28.119 bought all five of the Dirty Harry movies and it 1813 01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:30.920 was like thirty five dollars for all five movies. Where 1814 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:32.520 you can buy all of the Lord of the Rings 1815 01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:34.239 movies or all of the Star Wars movie or I 1816 01:34:34.279 --> 01:34:36.039 don't know if you can do Star Wars now, but 1817 01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:38.359 you know you can buy packages and whatnot. And there's 1818 01:34:38.359 --> 01:34:40.520 another website that did that and I can't remember where 1819 01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:45.239 that is right now, but yeah, so that's that's But yeah, 1820 01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:47.279 you don't buy anything through movies anywhere. All it does 1821 01:34:47.319 --> 01:34:49.119 is sink all your stuff together. 1822 01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:50.760 Very cool stuff. 1823 01:34:51.079 --> 01:34:52.399 So yeah, YEA. 1824 01:34:52.439 --> 01:34:56.079 On Solar Chip says we have way too much free time. 1825 01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:01.199 Takes away a lot this Well, that's the guy who 1826 01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:02.840 was in there asking what why do we need a 1827 01:35:02.840 --> 01:35:04.960 comms plan? What is comms? And then he comes back 1828 01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:06.920 and he says, oh, I'm already I already do calms. 1829 01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:09.279 And I'm like, well, you kind of answered you question 1830 01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:12.840 in question there, Bud, So I don't know what you're saying. 1831 01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:15.520 So I went out this morning. It was so much 1832 01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:17.800 fun to go out the back country with this guy, 1833 01:35:18.199 --> 01:35:23.800 Jeffrey from School of Survival out of Moab, and him 1834 01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:27.520 and I were talking just about all of these myths 1835 01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:30.279 of why get a radio because you're going to be 1836 01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:35.439 direction found. Uh if stuff goes sideways, uh, FCC doesn't matter. 1837 01:35:36.039 --> 01:35:41.640 And they were all based on training, whether it was firearms, medical, 1838 01:35:41.680 --> 01:35:44.479 blah blah blah, And a lot of these people don't 1839 01:35:44.520 --> 01:35:48.159 realize that training and muscle memory and regular practice are 1840 01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:51.279 are are vital comside. 1841 01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:56.000 Oh go ahead, I'm green with you. Oh with the comms. 1842 01:35:56.039 --> 01:35:58.079 I'm going to add two your answer here. If you 1843 01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:00.239 don't utilize it, you're gonna forget it. If you got 1844 01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:02.000 a new thing and you need to use it now 1845 01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:04.439 for an emergency situation, you don't know how to use 1846 01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:07.479 it if you do not develop The third prong here 1847 01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:10.479 is if you don't develop the relationships with the other 1848 01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:15.199 guy on the radio, especially locally, what's gonna get me 1849 01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:18.880 to leave my house in a situation to deliver you 1850 01:36:19.239 --> 01:36:22.760 water because you can't go and get it if we 1851 01:36:22.880 --> 01:36:25.760 don't have this connection. I'm just gonna laugh, haha. I 1852 01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:27.720 should have bought some last week. 1853 01:36:28.800 --> 01:36:29.039 Yeah. 1854 01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:31.840 Community is king, And yes, that's why I'm a fan 1855 01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:34.720 of the bulletin board system. Not so much for the 1856 01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:38.319 HF link. That's great to get a little bit farther out. 1857 01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:41.720 But our four, at least four of m comfortables is 1858 01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:46.399 going to have a mode called ETBBS server and it's 1859 01:36:46.479 --> 01:36:48.279 only going to be simple. It's only going to do 1860 01:36:48.319 --> 01:36:51.760 twelve hundred bod packet on either VHF or UHF. And 1861 01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:53.680 the goal is if you get one of those stood 1862 01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:56.720 up in your area, you now can get people to 1863 01:36:56.880 --> 01:37:00.840 just really easily share files or posts. 1864 01:37:01.319 --> 01:37:02.079 Yeah. I like that. 1865 01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:04.600 I like that right, And I guess you could do 1866 01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:06.680 the same thing with meshtastic here. But the problem, at 1867 01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:09.199 least where I'm at is that we're so ruled. There 1868 01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:12.960 isn't one node that's close enough for it to do anything. 1869 01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:16.960 But va mm hmm, yeah, we did. So is your 1870 01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:20.000 BBS running on VHF or HF both? 1871 01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:21.520 You could do multi supports? 1872 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:24.000 So you could, so, so I could in theory I 1873 01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:25.760 could HF. What band are you on. 1874 01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:27.880 Here? 1875 01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:28.399 What that end? 1876 01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:30.600 This range? Probably just on the outskirts. 1877 01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:32.119 Probably so yeah, I mean I can talk. I usually 1878 01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:35.840 talk to I usually get guys in Arizona. Case seven 1879 01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:39.960 sen Neil, he's out there in Arizona somewhere and he's 1880 01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:42.479 he's a huge PoTA hunter. I probably work him every 1881 01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:45.479 time I activate. Yeah, but it's it's usually a good 1882 01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:49.079 pipeline to Arizona from Texas. But so I could, so 1883 01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:52.439 I could connect to your forty meters BBS over HF 1884 01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:56.159 right now. We ran Rob in the chat Digital Rancher. 1885 01:37:56.199 --> 01:38:00.479 He ran a BBS on Meshtastic at winterfield Day and 1886 01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:02.520 it was just kind of tinkering around in twyin with it. 1887 01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:04.960 We were kind of out in the sticks and we 1888 01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:07.359 put it up and we announced it. We see if 1889 01:38:07.359 --> 01:38:09.000 anybody wanted to connect to it, and they didn't. But 1890 01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:12.840 he had one hacasion also and people were using it there. 1891 01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:19.960 It's awesome, but with Meshtastic and even with VHF. You're 1892 01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:23.039 talking about local comms right there. The cool thing about 1893 01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:26.680 having an HF BBS, that's that's interesting to me. I'm like, 1894 01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:30.119 cause it'd be like Vara HF at that point in time. 1895 01:38:30.159 --> 01:38:31.920 You know, you could connect to a wind link node, 1896 01:38:31.960 --> 01:38:34.119 you know, a couple hundred miles away and still send 1897 01:38:34.119 --> 01:38:36.640 win link packets. So I think that that that part 1898 01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:38.279 for me is interesting. 1899 01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:41.439 So I actually you can run multiple ports, and I 1900 01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:44.520 was experimenting with all of them. I was running five 1901 01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:47.199 ports at one time. I was running and I had 1902 01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:51.439 five radios and five antennas. I was running three hundred 1903 01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:55.439 bod packet over HF on forty meters, so you could 1904 01:38:55.439 --> 01:39:03.239 do that ninety six hundred bod FF on VHF, twelve 1905 01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:11.079 hundred bod on VHF, Vara FM on VHF or yeah, 1906 01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:14.000 and then also the var stuff. And what I found 1907 01:39:14.159 --> 01:39:16.600 was no one used ninety six hundred bods, so I 1908 01:39:16.720 --> 01:39:19.359 was just out a whole radio in a whole antenna. 1909 01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:23.000 So after about a month that I decommissioned it, and 1910 01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:27.439 it also decommissioned Vara FM as well. But it's absolutely 1911 01:39:27.479 --> 01:39:31.239 amazing the amount of pathways in and what's even cooler 1912 01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:35.960 about packet networking. You can node hoop. So let's say 1913 01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:39.560 that you can't get to me, you can do vara 1914 01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:43.119 HF into me, and then you could go out like 1915 01:39:43.159 --> 01:39:45.560 a VHF port to somebody else and you could start 1916 01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:48.640 to bounce around nodes all over and you could build 1917 01:39:48.680 --> 01:39:49.479 your own map. 1918 01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:52.039 That's kind of neat, Okay, it's really slick. 1919 01:39:52.319 --> 01:39:54.520 So we use that. When we were in court Sight, 1920 01:39:54.600 --> 01:39:57.199 we went in through HF and then we went out 1921 01:39:57.760 --> 01:40:01.840 through FM twelve hundred, and then I was bouncing around 1922 01:40:01.880 --> 01:40:05.720 four or five nodes in Arizona. 1923 01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:09.079 I yeah, we're I think Frank and I were talking 1924 01:40:09.359 --> 01:40:10.840 a week or two ago. I think We're going to 1925 01:40:10.920 --> 01:40:12.880 try to come back to Courtsfest next year. We'll see 1926 01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:13.760 what happens. 1927 01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:16.520 I'm not going last year, going next year. This is 1928 01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:18.000 my last one. 1929 01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:21.079 You heard what happened, right, No, I don't guess, so 1930 01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:22.880 huh oh. 1931 01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:25.319 Okay, So if you guys are again, I want to 1932 01:40:25.319 --> 01:40:29.720 be political here. I use the phrase ham nerd, and 1933 01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:32.680 I'm a big nerd and I'm a ham But one 1934 01:40:32.680 --> 01:40:36.199 thing I can't stand is the pedantic hams that just 1935 01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:40.920 want to, I don't know, expound on their wealth of 1936 01:40:41.039 --> 01:40:45.359 knowledge for no reason would not prompted. So I had 1937 01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:48.359 a mcm tool's talk for the first night at eight pm, 1938 01:40:48.760 --> 01:40:51.439 and I had a large outdoor screen. It was at 1939 01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:55.159 night and we had twenty to about thirty mile per 1940 01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:59.439 hour winds through there, and I was parked in Egypt 1941 01:40:59.479 --> 01:41:02.000 with my buddy and we were keeping to ourselves. So 1942 01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:04.520 about two hours before the event, I wanted to go 1943 01:41:04.640 --> 01:41:07.000 check out where the venue was where we or I 1944 01:41:07.039 --> 01:41:09.760 was supposed to present. There was not one soul. There 1945 01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:13.880 was like three hundred RVs, but no people. We go 1946 01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:17.000 to the event and the screen is warped from the wind. 1947 01:41:17.079 --> 01:41:21.239 The speakers are fall had fallen over. So I go 1948 01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:22.840 back to the RV with the guys and I get 1949 01:41:22.880 --> 01:41:27.399 on the simplex frequency for the event and Chris. 1950 01:41:27.640 --> 01:41:33.800 Was k k R seven ss KR one kra one 1951 01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:36.520 ss that's it. Yeah, please in charge of it. 1952 01:41:37.079 --> 01:41:38.920 Yeah. So I said, hey, Chris, this is a KT 1953 01:41:39.039 --> 01:41:40.680 seven R one guest and I'm scheduled to do to 1954 01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:43.399 talk and Chris said, oh, well, it's been canceled because 1955 01:41:43.399 --> 01:41:46.640 of the wind. I said, hey, uh, I've got battery 1956 01:41:46.680 --> 01:41:49.720 backup here, that's what we're running on. I've got starlink, 1957 01:41:50.119 --> 01:41:53.079 and I have a streaming platform, and I think I 1958 01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:55.560 could get everything up and running and I can give 1959 01:41:55.600 --> 01:42:00.680 you over radio the link. So in about thirty minutes 1960 01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:03.279 for putting stuff out through the window, set it up. 1961 01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:08.399 Got a thumbnail going go to KIA on the event 1962 01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:12.880 simplex frequency and there's two guys talking about ten meters 1963 01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:15.640 and I was waiting and waiting. Three minutes go by, 1964 01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:18.199 five minutes go by. They won't shut. They won't even. 1965 01:42:19.880 --> 01:42:23.039 So I was there with a friend, Brian. He's like, 1966 01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:25.199 just say break, damn. 1967 01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:29.640 It, I break, break and nothing. 1968 01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:32.399 I said, Well, at least somebody else should hurt me, 1969 01:42:32.479 --> 01:42:33.880 not the guy that was key down, but the other 1970 01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:38.039 guy should hurt me. So do it again. Break. I 1971 01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:41.399 think someone's trying to break in. And then this third 1972 01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:46.119 unknown party comes in doesn't announce their call. I'm about 1973 01:42:46.119 --> 01:42:48.880 ready to go after saying break three times. 1974 01:42:49.119 --> 01:42:50.359 Yeah. 1975 01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:54.279 Well, actually in amateur radio it's not procedure to use 1976 01:42:54.319 --> 01:42:58.039 the term break. Perhaps you should throw your call sign 1977 01:42:58.079 --> 01:43:00.760 in And he has no idea what my tracks on 1978 01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:02.159 the event? 1979 01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:04.439 Huh? 1980 01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:07.039 Right, like everything should stop when you say break. 1981 01:43:07.800 --> 01:43:08.039 Yeah. 1982 01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:10.079 Actually, there's a lot of there's a lot of nets 1983 01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:13.680 that said that their preamble says any emergency traffic should 1984 01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:16.800 be preceded by break break. Yeah, it's very common. 1985 01:43:17.720 --> 01:43:22.520 So anyways, I jumped in and said, you know, I 1986 01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:25.239 put it up Chris's call, signed mine again and said 1987 01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:27.960 here's how to find me. We're ready to go. We'll 1988 01:43:27.960 --> 01:43:31.880 do it live. So anybody who has starlink or internet 1989 01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:35.159 access to welcome go. We ended up having ninety eight 1990 01:43:35.560 --> 01:43:39.479 concurrent people on that last minute one at Courtz Fesco 1991 01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:42.600 and but there was a few other Ham things that 1992 01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:45.800 just drove me crazy. So I can't go again. I'm 1993 01:43:45.800 --> 01:43:47.680 going to do my own thing and just go into 1994 01:43:47.680 --> 01:43:49.920 the field with a bunch of guys, and that's going 1995 01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:50.600 to be the plan. 1996 01:43:50.720 --> 01:43:55.760 So I'm gonna do Yeah, I was. I'm actually gonna 1997 01:43:56.680 --> 01:43:58.479 look at doing my own thing this year too. I 1998 01:43:58.520 --> 01:44:01.399 want to do an overland gas I want to do 1999 01:44:01.399 --> 01:44:03.560 a Ham Radio two point zero gathering and say if 2000 01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:06.600 you are if you enjoy overlanding, I don't care if 2001 01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:08.399 you're in a Honda Civic. If you want to hang 2002 01:44:08.439 --> 01:44:10.600 out and come out and come out to a field. 2003 01:44:11.119 --> 01:44:14.520 National forests are all free to camp and their PoTA spots. 2004 01:44:14.560 --> 01:44:16.640 I'm like, let's pick a national forest. Let's go out 2005 01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:19.840 there and park in a circle and set up an antenna, 2006 01:44:19.880 --> 01:44:22.039 and let's just do a camping thing. Because I enjoyed 2007 01:44:22.039 --> 01:44:24.239 doing that in the vehicle. So yeah, we're gonna. 2008 01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:26.800 Should merge ours. I told the first I did the 2009 01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:29.520 first TTP field exercise with my buddies, and we actually 2010 01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:33.720 did an MCom tools installfest and good food and cook out. 2011 01:44:34.399 --> 01:44:37.279 We even did exercises. We walked everybody through every mode. 2012 01:44:37.960 --> 01:44:41.479 We got not only people hooked up with MCom tools 2013 01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:43.720 at that time, it was the R three release, people 2014 01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:46.239 that had never done wind link, people that had never 2015 01:44:46.279 --> 01:44:49.680 done APRS, and we got guys that were in general 2016 01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:53.920 and their first contact was their first willing session over 2017 01:44:54.039 --> 01:44:57.720 our dop going into a station about twenty miles out 2018 01:44:57.960 --> 01:44:59.960 nice and we got them connected and then we broke 2019 01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:03.960 up and we set up a tactical operations center and 2020 01:45:04.960 --> 01:45:07.680 they ran neck control and we went out four by 2021 01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:11.920 four and got on some ridgelines. We trafficked our positions, 2022 01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:15.000 We did reports a lot of fun. So we'll do 2023 01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:17.039 that again this year. So let me know if you 2024 01:45:17.079 --> 01:45:19.000 want to combine efforts. But it would be fun to 2025 01:45:19.039 --> 01:45:22.560 do something like that where yeah, that's a cool, fun events. 2026 01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:25.239 And to make it more fun, what I'm doing on 2027 01:45:25.279 --> 01:45:27.720 the next one that we're doing in April is a 2028 01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:30.800 scavenger hunt. So I'm going to have a few guys 2029 01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:35.039 come out and I'm I hope they're not on right now, 2030 01:45:35.439 --> 01:45:38.159 but I'm going to leave a radio at the designated 2031 01:45:38.239 --> 01:45:42.600 meeting spots on and I'm going to traffic the coordinates 2032 01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:44.800 to where to find me, and they're going to have 2033 01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:47.239 to move to that location, and I'm going to put 2034 01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:50.560 cases of gear, whether it's radio gear and tendis to 2035 01:45:50.560 --> 01:45:53.439 build like a dipole kit nice, and they're going to 2036 01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:55.279 have to go back. Maybe one of the exercises is 2037 01:45:55.279 --> 01:45:56.840 they go back and do a peer to peer art 2038 01:45:56.920 --> 01:46:00.319 up to my house and it'll give them an set 2039 01:46:00.319 --> 01:46:03.479 of coordinates to find more stuff, like a steak for 2040 01:46:03.520 --> 01:46:07.000 dinner that night or coffee for the morning. So I'm 2041 01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:11.359 gonna game of find the next TTP outing. Yeah, yeah, 2042 01:46:11.359 --> 01:46:12.079 so it should be fun. 2043 01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:13.720 Are you doing that in April? 2044 01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:17.720 If you're around, it's just right now, it's just four 2045 01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:20.760 close guys, but uh, okay, yeah, it's gonna be in 2046 01:46:20.800 --> 01:46:23.520 April if you If if not, we're gonna redo it again. 2047 01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:26.000 A couple of times. You're welcome to come out to that. 2048 01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:28.760 April might be kind of tight. We are. We're going 2049 01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:32.399 to a really fun overland event in Springfield, Missouri, the 2050 01:46:32.399 --> 01:46:34.760 fourth weekend in April. We've gone to last I've gone 2051 01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:37.439 last three years. We had about eight of us that 2052 01:46:37.520 --> 01:46:40.239 all camp together last year. I'm trying to get more 2053 01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:42.560 people out there because and they're those guys, the guys 2054 01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:45.960 who run the event are really excited that we're that 2055 01:46:46.039 --> 01:46:48.880 we come to that. So there's gonna be a big 2056 01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:52.119 group of us there this year. So it'd be really fun. Yeah, 2057 01:46:52.199 --> 01:46:53.840 keeping posted, I would I would love to do some 2058 01:46:53.960 --> 01:46:55.159 kind of joined up for it. That'd be great. 2059 01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:57.000 Yeah, it'd be a lot of fun. What are you 2060 01:46:57.039 --> 01:46:59.640 doing for your overland work these days? Like what's your setup? 2061 01:46:59.640 --> 01:47:02.920 Look? By my it keeps changing my uh, I mean, 2062 01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:06.439 I've just got my Ford F two fifty And the 2063 01:47:06.479 --> 01:47:08.840 guy from Jake from grid Base, I don't know if 2064 01:47:08.840 --> 01:47:12.880 you know him or not. He did he was interviewed 2065 01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:15.119 by another guy and I forget the name of that 2066 01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:18.800 channel about you guys. Yeah, yeah, that guy. Did you 2067 01:47:18.840 --> 01:47:21.239 see his uh A video about his his U F 2068 01:47:21.319 --> 01:47:21.960 three fifty. 2069 01:47:22.520 --> 01:47:24.960 No, no, Okay, I knew what that it came out, 2070 01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:26.880 but I haven't had time. I don't watch YouTube anymore 2071 01:47:26.880 --> 01:47:27.520 of these days. 2072 01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:29.960 Okay, yeah, he did a he did a video about 2073 01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.439 his F three fifty and uh, it's it's a few 2074 01:47:32.520 --> 01:47:35.439 years older than mine, but he had some cool stuff 2075 01:47:35.439 --> 01:47:36.920 in it. And I reached out to him and I'm like, 2076 01:47:36.920 --> 01:47:39.520 hey man, uh and he's like, oh, hey, I saw 2077 01:47:39.520 --> 01:47:41.520 you at the Ardmore Hamfest last year, which is a 2078 01:47:41.560 --> 01:47:43.760 local one of these local little ham fests we have here, 2079 01:47:43.800 --> 01:47:46.239 and I'm like, you should have said something. So he 2080 01:47:46.279 --> 01:47:47.840 and I kind of went back and forth and geeked 2081 01:47:47.840 --> 01:47:50.079 out about our Ford F two fifty three fifty trucks. 2082 01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:50.640 But nice. 2083 01:47:50.640 --> 01:47:52.560 That's what I'm doing with mine right now. I've got 2084 01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:55.920 I've got it's it's gonna be a total off grid 2085 01:47:56.079 --> 01:47:58.680 comm's view. I mean it kind of is already, but 2086 01:47:58.720 --> 01:48:01.079 I'm adding more stuff to it. It's not just ham radio. 2087 01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:04.800 It's going to have everything so well, like your sleep system, 2088 01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:08.319 for example, are you in the vehicle or like with 2089 01:48:08.399 --> 01:48:10.239 the customs set up there, or are you're going to 2090 01:48:10.279 --> 01:48:12.680 do a tent outside of its roof. 2091 01:48:12.479 --> 01:48:15.960 Type Traditionally I just installed a rooftop tent. I found 2092 01:48:15.960 --> 01:48:18.159 a good I found a good price on a rooftop 2093 01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:20.640 tent on Facebook marketplace, so I bought one. Used. It 2094 01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:24.199 looks brand new. Traditionally before that, I've been using a 2095 01:48:24.199 --> 01:48:28.720 Gazelle tint. I like to have. I like to have 2096 01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:32.079 a base camp tent if you're going to camp more 2097 01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:33.960 than like a couple nights, like we went out to 2098 01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:36.760 last year, we went to Yellowstone. The year before that, 2099 01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:39.079 we went to Grand Canyon. If you're going to do 2100 01:48:39.119 --> 01:48:41.159 a base camp and take your vehicle out during the day, 2101 01:48:41.199 --> 01:48:42.800 I hate one. I don't want to set up and 2102 01:48:42.880 --> 01:48:44.800 tear down the tent on the on the top of 2103 01:48:44.840 --> 01:48:46.920 the roof every day. So you set up your base 2104 01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:49.319 camp tent and then you come back every day to 2105 01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:52.079 and so you know where base camp is. So I've 2106 01:48:52.079 --> 01:48:54.319 got I've got options for that. But yeah, right now 2107 01:48:54.359 --> 01:48:57.560 I'm doing I did use my when I was driving 2108 01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:00.119 home from Orlando. I did it in two days. So 2109 01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:02.359 the first night that I stopped, I used the rooftop 2110 01:49:02.399 --> 01:49:04.840 tent for the first time. Then really nice, Yeah, it's 2111 01:49:04.920 --> 01:49:06.720 it's it was. It was nice. I got a good 2112 01:49:06.800 --> 01:49:10.600 night sleep that night, so it was all good. But yep. Cool. 2113 01:49:10.720 --> 01:49:12.159 Yeah, you can go down a rabbit hole with like 2114 01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:17.239 the ARB yeah, refrigerators and just the organizational units. I 2115 01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:18.680 mean it's a deep rabbit hole. 2116 01:49:19.239 --> 01:49:21.119 Well, and I've got a I've got one of those 2117 01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:24.520 those Epoch batteries. I've got a four hundred and sixty 2118 01:49:24.520 --> 01:49:27.279 amp hour Epoch battery in a box in the bed 2119 01:49:27.279 --> 01:49:31.000 in my truck that runs refrigerator and all of my radios. 2120 01:49:31.359 --> 01:49:33.520 And it's got a a d C to d C 2121 01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:36.720 charger that connects that. When I start the truck, the 2122 01:49:36.760 --> 01:49:39.760 alternator on my truck charges my secondary battery system. So 2123 01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:44.600 it's like forever power, you know. So it's just it's 2124 01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:47.760 freaking and that battery will last for a week. Like 2125 01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:50.560 I drove to Orlando and I parked my truck and 2126 01:49:50.600 --> 01:49:53.359 I let APRS becon at fifty watts on my YASUFTM 2127 01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:56.079 five hundred for four days, and I think the battery 2128 01:49:56.159 --> 01:49:58.319 was at like seventy percent after that or something like that. 2129 01:49:58.600 --> 01:50:00.520 And it was running my fridge also that time. 2130 01:50:00.600 --> 01:50:02.119 So let me ask you a question. If you got 2131 01:50:02.159 --> 01:50:04.920 a second here, you are the person who put on 2132 01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:08.920 my radar the Ridotto batteries in December of last year, yes, 2133 01:50:09.239 --> 01:50:12.600 I impulse saw the price or Impulse bought based on 2134 01:50:12.640 --> 01:50:14.720 the price at the time. I bought the Giant three 2135 01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:18.079 hundred am power one, okay, and it's still in the box. 2136 01:50:18.119 --> 01:50:22.000 I haven't even oh it's sealed, Okayven had time for 2137 01:50:22.039 --> 01:50:25.960 that project, and I've always gone with the Battleborn batteries 2138 01:50:26.880 --> 01:50:29.600 and mine have been in my RV for the house 2139 01:50:30.119 --> 01:50:33.520 for the last five years. No maintenance have been absolutely amazing. 2140 01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:37.800 I was kind of concerned about quality and of fire. 2141 01:50:39.239 --> 01:50:42.199 Do you have any feedback on what you found with Rodota? 2142 01:50:42.279 --> 01:50:44.359 Are they reliable? Any pros cons? 2143 01:50:45.079 --> 01:50:48.119 I mean, I would not put Rodotto up against battle 2144 01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:52.840 Born or Epoch or even Dacota Lithium. These are companies 2145 01:50:52.840 --> 01:50:55.279 that have eleven year warranting on their batteries. They're they're 2146 01:50:55.319 --> 01:50:59.880 gonna be more targed, more ready, more harsh conditions, whatnot. Yeah, 2147 01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:03.079 but for for radio comms like you and I like, 2148 01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:06.479 like if I was going to build a battery backup 2149 01:51:06.479 --> 01:51:08.760 system for my home, I wouldn't use red Odo but 2150 01:51:08.800 --> 01:51:11.640 for battery cut for a radio comms for what you 2151 01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:14.199 and I do or stuff like that. I've got my 2152 01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:17.880 original red Odo fifty ampower that I had I got 2153 01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:20.640 a year and a half two years ago something like that, 2154 01:51:20.840 --> 01:51:24.760 and it's still running very strong, very very good. They 2155 01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:27.239 are starting to make self heating battery. They just sent 2156 01:51:27.319 --> 01:51:29.560 me one hundred and forty amp battery that's got a 2157 01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:31.920 self heater in it. It's one of their first batteries 2158 01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:34.439 that has They had one hundred amp power battery before 2159 01:51:34.439 --> 01:51:36.399 this one. And uh and they have a one forty 2160 01:51:36.439 --> 01:51:38.520 now that have blue too. They never had Bluetooth before, 2161 01:51:38.560 --> 01:51:41.039 so they've got Bluetooth in the batteries now and now 2162 01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:43.279 they have starting to have self heaters. So they're starting 2163 01:51:43.279 --> 01:51:47.479 to upgrade their game. I think very You send them 2164 01:51:47.479 --> 01:51:50.560 feedback and they're very open to feedback and whatnot, so 2165 01:51:50.560 --> 01:51:53.800 that they seem to will be very easy to work with. 2166 01:51:53.920 --> 01:51:56.560 But you know, but they're not hardened like battle Boy. 2167 01:51:56.760 --> 01:51:59.479 You know, there's they're not battleborn batteries. But for for 2168 01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:02.439 doing stuff that's like every day to day stuff, I 2169 01:52:02.479 --> 01:52:03.920 think they're okay. I think they're fantastic. 2170 01:52:04.039 --> 01:52:07.760 Yeah, because I built the secondary system independent of all 2171 01:52:07.800 --> 01:52:09.479 of the other stuff I had in the RV, because 2172 01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:10.960 I had a room end of the Dornet and I 2173 01:52:10.960 --> 01:52:14.319 had an extra battle Born, but I went all Victron, 2174 01:52:14.399 --> 01:52:18.439 which is also super pricey. The inverter, that pure signed 2175 01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:24.359 inverter is clean, yes, and all of the the Bluetooth 2176 01:52:24.359 --> 01:52:26.960 capabilities they have for the apps, so you have telemetry 2177 01:52:27.159 --> 01:52:28.960 seeing how much is coming out of the battery, how 2178 01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:31.760 much solar is producing. This great, but it's I know, 2179 01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:34.800 people just don't have that type of disposable income to 2180 01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:38.920 spend two grand right, one hundred watt set up or 2181 01:52:38.920 --> 01:52:42.640 one hundred camp hours setup right, and Ridotto comes in. 2182 01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:44.479 I mean I think it was like at least a 2183 01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:47.439 third of the price, right, Yeah, if you're mean that 2184 01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:49.840 pure amp howers capacity alone. 2185 01:52:50.079 --> 01:52:53.000 The true test on them is going to be five 2186 01:52:53.079 --> 01:52:55.560 years from now. How are the batteries working five seven 2187 01:52:55.640 --> 01:52:57.760 years from now? You know the batteries you buy today, 2188 01:52:58.119 --> 01:53:00.359 how are they going to be working five? I meann 2189 01:53:00.439 --> 01:53:02.680 is gonna be solid, I mean for years and years, 2190 01:53:03.119 --> 01:53:07.640 but an epoch too, But that's gonna be the test 2191 01:53:07.640 --> 01:53:09.000 on the and you know who knows. I don't know. 2192 01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:10.600 I don't have a seven year old red Odo, so 2193 01:53:10.600 --> 01:53:12.960 I can't answer that question. But from what I've seen 2194 01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:16.119 so far, they're pretty solid. I do want to a Yeah, 2195 01:53:16.119 --> 01:53:20.039 I put several Victron items in my UH setup as well. 2196 01:53:20.279 --> 01:53:24.760 I'm gonna be adding there are the oh, what's that 2197 01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:26.640 brain called that reports to the Internet. 2198 01:53:26.680 --> 01:53:30.119 Oh, I don't have that one yet. Yeah, so I've 2199 01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:32.159 got an internet built in bus bar that you kind 2200 01:53:32.159 --> 01:53:33.199 of plug everything into. 2201 01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:38.039 No, that's the UH, that's the UH. That's the links distributor. 2202 01:53:38.079 --> 01:53:39.479 I have that, I have the look, I have the 2203 01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:42.560 link shunt and the links distributor. And then there's another 2204 01:53:42.600 --> 01:53:44.920 piece and I can't remember what it's called right now, 2205 01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:47.800 but there's like there's like seventeen pieces that you could 2206 01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:52.159 add to. But yeah, not to get off on a 2207 01:53:52.159 --> 01:53:53.880 big tangent, but I was just thinking the other day 2208 01:53:53.880 --> 01:53:55.319 I was talking to t O a couple of weeks 2209 01:53:55.359 --> 01:53:58.600 ago about doing another r V live stream. Sometimes I'll 2210 01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:00.800 do live streams on my other channel about r V stuff, 2211 01:54:01.159 --> 01:54:03.159 And I was talking to talking to t O about 2212 01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:04.319 that the other day, and I'm like, you know what 2213 01:54:04.359 --> 01:54:05.920 we need to do. I need to get with with 2214 01:54:06.039 --> 01:54:10.039 Kyle and UH and t O. And I was thinking, 2215 01:54:10.079 --> 01:54:13.279 I thought of one other person. Who was it. I 2216 01:54:13.279 --> 01:54:14.800 can't remember whose it was right now, but I was 2217 01:54:14.840 --> 01:54:18.000 like Phil, No, maybe it was. It wasn't Bill, but 2218 01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:19.479 Bill would be a good one to add too. That 2219 01:54:19.680 --> 01:54:22.680 was before myself, t O Kyle and one other person, 2220 01:54:23.039 --> 01:54:25.039 all of us who have RVs that want to, you know, 2221 01:54:25.039 --> 01:54:26.880 get on and start talking about so but Gastone, I 2222 01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:29.119 knew you would be a perfect addition to that show too. 2223 01:54:29.199 --> 01:54:32.560 So I'd love to start getting just do like a 2224 01:54:32.600 --> 01:54:36.399 once a month RV chat live stream or something like that. 2225 01:54:36.439 --> 01:54:38.520 What you know, just talk about whatever the heck and 2226 01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:40.359 we'll come up with a topic or something. So I 2227 01:54:40.359 --> 01:54:41.960 want to do something like that. 2228 01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:44.960 That'd be fun. I pulled out the seventy five coax 2229 01:54:45.039 --> 01:54:47.680 for the TV on the outside and put a fifty 2230 01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:51.520 ome in there. It's so nice having a actual port 2231 01:54:51.760 --> 01:54:54.319 inside the d net for my coats. Yeah, and I 2232 01:54:54.319 --> 01:54:56.359 can run an infed straight off the side of the 2233 01:54:56.479 --> 01:54:57.439 r V and a sloper. 2234 01:54:57.560 --> 01:54:59.079 Oh, that's so freaking. 2235 01:54:59.199 --> 01:55:01.359 It was the small has change. It was a bulkhead 2236 01:55:01.479 --> 01:55:04.720 change on that that unit and just a little bit 2237 01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:07.640 of coax and it was hard fishing everything through. But 2238 01:55:07.920 --> 01:55:10.399 it's it's so nice, especially when you have the Anderson 2239 01:55:10.439 --> 01:55:13.720 power to pole mounts from powerworks also built into your 2240 01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:16.039 right your hardware. My wife's like, what are all these 2241 01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:18.840 little things that are popping up. These are warts popping 2242 01:55:18.920 --> 01:55:19.439 up the wall. 2243 01:55:20.119 --> 01:55:24.520 Yeah, it's fun. Victron Serbo, thank you, Jody, Yes you're 2244 01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:27.399 yeah the Serbo. So it's so I have I have 2245 01:55:27.439 --> 01:55:30.960 a LT modem in my truck with a Verizon SIM 2246 01:55:30.960 --> 01:55:33.359 card in it. But I'm about I'm about to put 2247 01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:35.039 my ster Link many I've got a ster Link Mini 2248 01:55:35.079 --> 01:55:36.920 mount for my truck now, so I'm about to put 2249 01:55:36.920 --> 01:55:40.600 the STERLNK Mini in the in the truck and and 2250 01:55:40.640 --> 01:55:44.119 then the Serbo will connect via Wi Fi or Ethernet. 2251 01:55:44.119 --> 01:55:47.840 I think I probably run Ethernet and report like you'll 2252 01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:49.680 be able to open your app and look and see 2253 01:55:49.680 --> 01:55:52.239 what your vehicle is doing from anywhere, and it reports 2254 01:55:52.239 --> 01:55:54.439 it to the cloud and whatnot. So it may not 2255 01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:56.600 be for everybody, but I thought that was a neat feature. 2256 01:55:57.119 --> 01:56:00.039 So yeah, these are just it's a good time to 2257 01:56:00.079 --> 01:56:00.880 be alive right now. 2258 01:56:01.039 --> 01:56:04.840 Yes, yeah, it is, yeah for sure. All right, guys, 2259 01:56:04.840 --> 01:56:07.119 we've been going for two hours and I haven't had 2260 01:56:07.119 --> 01:56:08.840 my dinner yet. Someone go in and eat some dinner. 2261 01:56:08.880 --> 01:56:13.079 But gas Stone thanks a lot, man, appreciate that. Frank Put, 2262 01:56:13.159 --> 01:56:16.439 I know you shared his channel link in there earlier. 2263 01:56:16.439 --> 01:56:18.159 If you would share his channel link in there, again 2264 01:56:18.319 --> 01:56:20.840 Yeah in the chat you guys, go check out Gastone's channel. 2265 01:56:20.840 --> 01:56:25.000 A lot of good uh more, a lot more technical 2266 01:56:25.039 --> 01:56:26.680 stuff than what I do, and I mean in a 2267 01:56:26.720 --> 01:56:33.479 good way about off grade communications and Linux based stuff 2268 01:56:33.520 --> 01:56:37.319 and staying you know, keeping big brother at bay, that 2269 01:56:37.399 --> 01:56:37.840 kind of thing. 2270 01:56:37.880 --> 01:56:39.800 So it's all in back country stuff. So if you 2271 01:56:39.880 --> 01:56:42.880 just want some nostalished, some good scenery, like the next 2272 01:56:42.920 --> 01:56:44.960 video that's dropping was a lot of fun out in 2273 01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:45.399 the back. 2274 01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:49.720 Cool for nice, nice cool. Well, thanks a lot, guys. 2275 01:56:49.720 --> 01:56:51.920 Once again. One week from tonight, we're gonna give away 2276 01:56:51.920 --> 01:56:54.840 the IC seven O five. It goes sign up with 2277 01:56:54.920 --> 01:56:56.760 the link I shared earlier. I'll put a link in 2278 01:56:56.800 --> 01:56:59.279 the description for those of you on Team Replay and 2279 01:56:59.479 --> 01:57:01.479 we'll catch it next time. So everyone have a good evening. 2280 01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:04.239 We goodbye, good bye later bye guys,