WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:32.320 You will listening to game Spot after Dark episode one 2 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:35.320 one one. That's right, we've done one hundred and one 3 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:38.799 episodes and what didn't you know? We were also highlighted 4 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:41.359 as one of the gaming podcasts that listens to by 5 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:45.359 the Apple podcast Twitter page, a surprise to many of us. 6 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.119 It was nice, it was love it. I was like, oh, 7 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:51.679 I'm surprised they picked us. But if anything, that is 8 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:55.600 an official seal of quality. But you shouldn't be persuaded 9 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:58.159 away from recommending the podcast to other people. So make 10 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.880 sure you go to Apple and up vote and review 11 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.679 and subscribe and share it so we can get even higher. 12 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:05.879 Let's crush all the other podcasts out there, all the 13 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:08.599 other worthless podcasts that were in our category, like what 14 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:13.560 is this one called? Giant bomb cast? Bullshit? Get rid 15 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:17.599 of it. I am joined by I'm your host Tamo saying, 16 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:21.959 joined as always by Jean Luke Snipeke, how. 17 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:24.359 Do you do? Baby? 18 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:25.239 I love it? 19 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:29.599 Different of it? I like that one. I like that. 20 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.120 Yeah, that was a good one. It was good. That voice, 21 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:36.640 of course, is the one and only newly minted twitch 22 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:44.159 streamer twitch dot tv. Lucy James games Hi, thank. 23 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:46.480 You well, I mean Tom is doing more to pip 24 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:52.280 my streams than I are. I'm like sliding twenty dollars 25 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:54.840 across the internet by Venmoir. 26 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:59.680 Yeah, and for making his debut on the Game Spot 27 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:02.840 after our podcast. It is the one and Only. You 28 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:05.079 may have seen seen him on YouTube dot com for 29 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:09.960 Slash Game Spot doing intelligent, smart analysis of mental health 30 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:13.400 and video games. It is Chris Morris. 31 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.919 Hello, the one and Only Chris Morris. 32 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:19.319 The One and Menace Morris. 33 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:20.520 That's what we call it. 34 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.560 I have some kind of wrestling though, like Chris the Menace. 35 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:30.240 Morris, Chris the Menace Morris, Chris the Mental Health men Morris. 36 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:34.840 The Mental health Menace is anything I'm trying to I'm 37 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:37.240 trying to do the opposite healthy. 38 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:39.719 I just said menace in general. 39 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:43.639 Yeah, yeah, we're gonna go with the Menace Chris. Of course. 40 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:46.080 I don't know if you listen to this. Should you 41 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:46.759 listen to the show? 42 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:50.719 Chris? Yeah. I was really kind of put off by 43 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:52.599 the fact that the theme tune didn't kick in right 44 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:55.879 the start there, because I'm just so used to used 45 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:58.000 to that coming in. Also, is no one else going 46 00:02:58.039 --> 00:02:59.599 to mention the fact that Tam you said it was 47 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.159 episode one one one and then said we've done one 48 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:03.400 hundred and one episodes. 49 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:06.199 Is that what I said? 50 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:07.280 Yeah? 51 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:12.280 Oh mate, absolutely biffed it. Don't take let's throw all 52 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:14.360 of this away. Let's throw all of this away. 53 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.039 I was going to say, like one on one, like 54 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:19.639 the non emergency number here in the UK because we 55 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:20.960 have a British majority. 56 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:23.759 Yeah, the British majority. 57 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:28.879 Finally, how does it feel, Jean Luke, how does it feel? 58 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:34.360 I'm terrible with numbers, so I'm not at all surprised 59 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:37.719 at myself for looking at those numbers and then incorrectly 60 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:38.400 speaking them. 61 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:41.039 But yeah, I mean I might be wrong because no 62 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:42.680 one else put it up. So if I am wrong, 63 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.280 just cut out, because I don't want the first thing. 64 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:48.639 For me staying in regardless, staying in. 65 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:53.680 Yeah, the menace and getting numbers wrong, Chris, As with 66 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:57.199 all first times, you have a we have a little 67 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:59.960 segment that we call the Chris from day In Ohio 68 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:05.479 segment Chris, which has the theme tune that goes like 69 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:10.759 but uh back. We are like ninety nine percent sure 70 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:13.879 that Chris from Dayton, Ohio doesn't listen to us anymore, 71 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.680 because we've reached out to him via this podcast to 72 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:20.680 give us signs of life, and he has not. But 73 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:23.560 he introduced this thing. He messaged in and I was like, 74 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.000 I don't know any of you, and this podcast seems 75 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:27.759 all right, But I don't know any of you. Who 76 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:31.600 are you? What do you like? So, Chris, but the 77 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:34.360 people who don't know you like, we know you. Tell 78 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:36.519 us what you do at GameSpot. Tell us what you like, 79 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:41.000 what games you like? What what rustles your Jimmy's, what 80 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:44.480 helps you put in the morning? You know, one of 81 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:45.360 the things that you love. 82 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:52.959 Wow, what an introduction. I'm Chris. I'm a video producer 83 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:56.879 here at GameSpot in the UK, permanently in the UK, 84 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:00.160 not just a flying visit like Lucy and Tam. I'm 85 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:00.639 sticking in. 86 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:03.480 Can you call it five months of live visit? 87 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:05.480 Yeah, that's true. 88 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:08.839 Yeah, So let's not go Let's not forget the fact 89 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:11.199 that Lucy was born and raised there and I lived 90 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:12.439 there for most of my life. 91 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.360 Yeah, but you've left us, so you're basically dead to us. 92 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:18.680 Yeah. 93 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:23.480 I make videos, all kinds of videos, really, but you 94 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:28.519 may have seen me talking about time splitters or mental 95 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:33.959 health or some other kind of psychology adjacent things. And 96 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:38.480 I've also worked on some of the shows we've made 97 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.800 over the past couple of years, like Load Out, Audiologus, 98 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:46.120 remember when. There's probably some others that I'm forgetting. 99 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:49.600 And I just watched an episode of Expert Reacts you 100 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:50.279 edited as. 101 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:53.560 Well, so that is true. Yeah, if you're listening to 102 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.439 this on Friday and you're a fan of the work 103 00:05:56.519 --> 00:06:01.120 of our friend Jonathan Ferguson, then and look out for 104 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:03.560 that the usual time and place on YouTube. It's a 105 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:04.160 good episode. 106 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:06.040 I hope it's good. 107 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:09.480 Yeah, Yeah, he's on. He's on spicy form. 108 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:14.240 I think he's very spicy. Even calls himself out. He's like, 109 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:16.720 I'm being I'm being very nitpicky today. 110 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:19.240 You Yeah. 111 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:23.160 In fact, a little bit behind the scenes trivia, he 112 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:26.680 had just had a packet of Mexican spicy rice before 113 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:33.920 we started recording, So perhaps that is exactly want to. 114 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:37.680 He's so British that simply eating something spicy changed his 115 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:42.000 very demeanor. Yeah, that's how Brita's reactive food. 116 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:49.279 Yeah. So what are the things that what the Chris 117 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:51.480 from Day in Ohio thinks? 118 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.000 What? What games do you love? What things do you love? 119 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:59.040 What games, movies, whatever? What defines Chris Morris. We talked 120 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:00.959 about this. I talked the aout the other day. If 121 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:04.480 if if you were an RPG character and you were 122 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:08.360 on RPG NPC and you were killed, and the game 123 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:10.800 was designed for like the loot that was found on 124 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.160 you would be a representation of who you are. What 125 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:17.519 ship would they find in there in your backpack? Let's 126 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:20.839 talk about media specifically, that would be Leia, I get 127 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:22.120 a feel for what this person is. 128 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:30.319 Hmm, okay, well I reckon certainly. I mean the easy 129 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:35.680 answers would be things like Bloodborne or Discolysium, which you 130 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:37.879 know is very much preaching to the choir I think 131 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.079 on this podcast. So I'm going to say something a 132 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:44.560 little bit different and go with I think I would 133 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:48.600 drop an anthology collection of the roller Coaster Tycoon games 134 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.600 because they are like the defining or you know, they're 135 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.720 there have been the constants I was about. I don't know, 136 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.160 whenever we got our first computer back in my family 137 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:07.160 my dad's house, roder Coasta, Tycoon two, three Planet Coaster Parchitect. Yeah, 138 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.199 they are great. I think they're just like I was 139 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:12.399 thinking the other day, like how many games are there 140 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.759 where you where you're just like creating stuff rather than 141 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:19.920 destroying it and specifically just things to make people happy. 142 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:23.160 There are so few games which are just about like 143 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.680 bringing joy to people, which I think is really which 144 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:27.399 is really sweet. 145 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:30.160 Do you know that was the original picture of the 146 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:32.840 SIMS as well. It was meant to be like in 147 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:36.039 the original SIMS game, you had all of your your 148 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:38.759 sort of mass mass Love's hierarchy of needs, but you 149 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:42.279 also had one for just like how nice your house was, 150 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:44.960 and so it's like that was kind of one of 151 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:46.799 the mini games within the SIMS. It is like making 152 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:48.720 a house that your sim thought was nice. 153 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.360 And much like with Roder Coast Tycoon, the first thing 154 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:55.679 everyone does is like set someone on fire in a 155 00:08:55.720 --> 00:08:56.559 one by one. 156 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:00.240 Yeah, Paul Ladder in it. 157 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:03.919 Yeah yeah, stick a roller coaster that just flies a 158 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:05.720 one hundred miles an hour into a crowd of people. 159 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:07.759 All those sorts of things that people do. 160 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:14.600 What about Chris a movie and a TV show? M hm, 161 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:17.519 well movie. 162 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:24.000 I am a big fan of the Coen Brothers, so 163 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.360 I'd probably go with Inside Lowyn Davis. 164 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.480 Because I'm a big fan of films. 165 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:33.000 Is oh mate, if you're a fan of Oscar Isaac. 166 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:38.279 Oscar Isaac has never looked finer more when he was 167 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:45.679 inside lowin DA when he was playing Lowyn Davis. 168 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:48.639 That phrasing, Isaac has never looked finer than when he 169 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:50.200 was inside. 170 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:56.720 Yeah he's Oh actually, no way. I did see a 171 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:01.639 picture of him smoking a cigarette and window Yeah, okay, good. However, 172 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.960 I would say, do you know he looks unbelievable in June? 173 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:07.960 Hmm, yeah, that is true. 174 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:08.720 But I mean I'm. 175 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:20.240 John Trouser snake or is this just uh, I'm on 176 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:23.879 Google while Lucy is uh having a trip down and 177 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:27.320 sync memory lane? Give us a TV show mate? Uh? 178 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:27.679 Dark? 179 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:34.879 Yes? Yes, I'm with Dark, Yes mate. 180 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:37.519 The first few months as a game spot in the 181 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.320 UK a couple of years ago, I was banging on 182 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:46.159 about Dark and everyone thought I was a tedious bastard 183 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:46.919 and they were. 184 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:48.399 I listened. I listened. 185 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:50.159 Dark watched it eventually. 186 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:55.120 Yeah, yeah, I listened. I got there eventually, and you 187 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:59.320 are right. It is incredible. It's just usual. 188 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:02.000 A teen ninety nine. I think they're still making it. 189 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.720 They're doing it. I read this week they're filming it 190 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:07.720 on like a volume like they do with Mandalorian, like 191 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:12.840 the big led wall thing that they have, which is 192 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.320 interesting because especially I think Dark is like the best 193 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.440 looking TV show I've ever seen, and a big part 194 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:22.519 of that is where they shoot it in these like 195 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:26.519 amazing German forests. So it'd be interesting to see if 196 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:29.600 they can do the same kind of visually striking thing 197 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:32.679 with eighteen ninety nine. But yeah, everyone should watch Dark 198 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:38.519 every everyone. I think. I think everyone thinks it's like 199 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:42.519 German Stranger Things, but it's so much better than Stranger Things. 200 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:45.279 Oh, the Stranger Things is like not even close to 201 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.279 as good as that is, like the thing that I saw, 202 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:50.000 Like every time I see it, I'm like, this is 203 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:54.240 somehow just intensely death stranding vibe. It's like, yeah, it 204 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.879 looks it looks so much like death Stranding or vice 205 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:59.879 versa that like, sometimes I think Kajima must have thee. 206 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:04.480 There's no way, because like Norman Readers's character like Sundporter 207 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:11.759 Bridges and a character in almost the name The Stranger, 208 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:15.759 they look the same. I was like, oh shit, this 209 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:19.799 is the same, like we're in the backpack everything. But yeah, 210 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:21.639 I think that show is incredible as well. 211 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.759 Yeah, and certainly for the first I think couple of series. 212 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:29.279 It's one of those shows that kind of you can 213 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:31.879 have a scene where nothing much happens, but the kind 214 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.279 of implications of it, like within the context to show, 215 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:38.159 are huge, and the telltale sign is always like someone 216 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:40.440 will like pick up a piece of paper and look 217 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.480 at it, and then the score will come in with 218 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:48.039 this like absolutely haunting, like based synth. 219 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:55.039 Yeah, speaking of bass and synth, let's move on to 220 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:57.320 a game that has a soundtrack with a hell of 221 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.320 a lot of bass and synth, some saxophone, a bit 222 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:02.919 of jazz. Well, of course, talking about Death Loop, the 223 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:06.440 big game of the week. Everyone here has been playing it. 224 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:12.000 My opinions of it are thoroughly documented now at this 225 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:15.960 point on the video game website www dot GameSpot dot com, 226 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:19.039 where I gave it a ten out of ten and 227 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:22.879 called it an essential video game, importantly for the crybabies 228 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:24.799 that have been in my mention on the internet. I 229 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:27.679 didn't say it was perfect. I said it was essential, 230 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.679 and I stand by that. I'm going to go to 231 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:35.679 Lucy first. Lucy, what do you think of it? Talk 232 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:36.679 to us about Death Loop. 233 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:40.279 I'm in the same boat as you, I feel, because 234 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:43.039 there's I mean, when we were filming last week, I'd 235 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.399 already was it last week the week before I'd already 236 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.639 finished it. My opinion of it is unchanged. I fully 237 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:50.600 I am in agreement with you about the ten out 238 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:53.200 of ten. I think it is wonderful. These an incredible game. 239 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:57.240 I've been having more fun now as Juliana invading people, 240 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:01.799 which is because I wasn't really turned on for like 241 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:03.799 a lot of the time that I had code ahead 242 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.159 of release, and so that is just like a very 243 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:12.559 very fun, like completely optional multiplayer mode, and I've really 244 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:14.799 been enjoyed because I'm not very good at it. Sometimes 245 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:17.320 I feel like I can do really well. I did 246 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:23.799 feel so bad I invaded this person. Dave, my housemate, 247 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:27.039 was getting a bed delivered, and he was like, can 248 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:31.200 you help me take my current bed and put it outside? 249 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:33.480 And I was like, yeah, I'll put it like in 250 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.799 another room. I was like, yeah, yeah, I've just loaded 251 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.559 into this game and it loaded me in and I 252 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.799 was like, I'm just gonna hide and I'll get mad 253 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:48.480 points for like just existing and just being alive. And 254 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:50.399 so Dave and I took us like twenty minutes through 255 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:51.879 this bed down and then I went down and I 256 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:55.320 was still alive, like the person hadn't found me. So 257 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:57.440 I went and found them and they were in the 258 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:00.360 middle of killing all the Wendies and I think they 259 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:04.759 had one or two left, and I and there was 260 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:07.919 a roof hatch and I just popped in and just 261 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:12.120 snapped his neck and then waited for him to you know, 262 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:15.799 rupries back, and then obviously hold down on the on 263 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:20.200 the dpad, and I alerted the final Wenji's to his position, 264 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:22.519 and then we all just shot him. And I felt 265 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:24.879 really bad, but I got Hella points. 266 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:29.360 So loosely is out there being a menace on the 267 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:35.840 servers for Death Loop Chris, you started it recently, right, 268 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:36.919 what do you reckon a bit? 269 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:40.879 Yes, so I've played maybe three or four hours, I think, 270 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:47.039 and I like it. I've never played an arcade game before, 271 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:50.039 which I think is probably really a bit of a 272 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:56.039 unique position, certainly on this podcast, and there's no kind 273 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:58.080 of reason for that. Like I always thought I would 274 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:01.120 enjoy Dishonored and Pray, but I just never got round 275 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:06.480 to playing them for one reason or another. And there's 276 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:08.000 a lot that I really like about it. I think 277 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:12.639 it's so stylish and it feels like such a confident game, 278 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:17.759 like the retro future aesthetic of it is brilliant, Like 279 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.279 you said, The soundtrack is great. It kind of reminds 280 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:27.039 me of in a weird way, like Thirteen, but toned down, 281 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:31.399 like the kind of the kind of slightly unreal art 282 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:36.200 style and like when everything is like flowing it's it 283 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:40.480 feels really fantastic, although I haven't had that much of 284 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:43.080 that because I'm still not very good at the game. 285 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:44.519 I'm just still kind of figuring it out. 286 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:47.879 But are you stealthy? Are you stealthy on going or 287 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:48.519 guns blazing? 288 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:56.159 I'm definitely stealthy, And I mean that's not that's that's 289 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:59.840 a horrible term. I've just realized you've walked into that track. 290 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:04.319 Yeah, that's a bad term. Now, how do you play. 291 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:12.880 Taking this stealthy route? Yes? And yeah, I think part 292 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:14.559 of that is just because I want to kind of 293 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:18.960 explore each area and there's it feels very dense, like 294 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:21.200 there's lots of buildings to go in and out of, 295 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.519 little hidden corridors and pathways and things like that, and 296 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.559 all that stuff's quite fun and I'm really enjoying just 297 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:30.880 kind of untangling the world and trying to figure things out. 298 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:35.640 It feels a bit like the kind of wider setting 299 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:37.720 of it feels a bit discollesian to me, like this 300 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:42.240 kind of I'm getting the sense that there's lots of 301 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:47.599 like political stuff going on that you're not going to 302 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:49.799 see for a long time. Like there's hints of like 303 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:51.839 that it used to be an army outpost and things 304 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.319 like that. So I'm very keen to kind of figure 305 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:58.000 that all out. Then again, I did only play Disco 306 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:00.400 Liesium like two months ago, so it might be that 307 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:06.000 I just want everything to be on the brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 308 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:11.359 I do think like for me as an arcane novice, 309 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:14.559 I don't think it when it starts, I don't think 310 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.920 it puts its best foot forward in terms of kind 311 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:22.759 of starting you very underpowered, because I felt for a 312 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:25.559 few hours it was kind of frustrating going around these 313 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:30.359 areas and there are very obvious routes that are kind 314 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.559 of tied to powers that you don't have access to, 315 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:36.559 and I felt like I was being kind of funneled 316 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:39.279 down kind of going in the front door a lot. 317 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:45.319 And yeah, and like I totally understand that, and it's 318 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:48.400 but I guess I want it to be a bit more. 319 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:50.039 I was hoping it was going to be a bit 320 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:54.240 more kind of the hit Man free form vibe like 321 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:56.480 one of the first things I did when you first 322 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:59.519 get to Updam, which is like one of the first 323 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:01.240 things that you do or the first kind of area 324 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:03.440 that you go into. One of the first things I 325 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:05.880 did was turn off the waypoints because I wanted to 326 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:09.079 kind of like figure out stuff myself, like where I 327 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:10.640 was going and all that kind of thing. And that 328 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:14.480 works really well just for that one objective because you 329 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.359 get like a postcard which says which gives you an address, 330 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:19.839 like a vague location and a picture of where it is. 331 00:19:20.839 --> 00:19:22.880 And so that was great because I was like figuring 332 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.440 out where this thing was and it says, oh, Juliana 333 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:27.200 says something about it being by the cliffs, and I 334 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:28.640 was like, oh, brilliant, I'm going to figure that out. 335 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:30.920 But that doesn't really apply to any of the other 336 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:34.240 objectives in the rest of the game. And so that 337 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:35.160 I found. 338 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:38.079 So far, Yeah, not for the main objectives. 339 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:42.519 Yeah, And I guess I'm missing that thing where you 340 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:46.200 can pick up a clue and then examine it and 341 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:49.920 like really piece together something yourself. And it's more like 342 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:53.000 you pick up something and it just opens up a 343 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:56.559 new waypoint for you. So I think, yeah, I don't 344 00:19:56.599 --> 00:19:59.920 know that's like a very kind of like minor thing 345 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.079 because I'm still enjoying it a lot. 346 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:04.720 You get way more of that with the other leads 347 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:07.960 and objectives. I think that I think their goal is 348 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:11.960 like always have the main objective pointed out, and even 349 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:13.680 if you kind of like turn it off, they make 350 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:16.680 it obvious. But I do remember a bunch of things 351 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:20.480 like that are like sub objectives that will feed eventually 352 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:22.599 into some of the main objectives. But that felt a 353 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:25.680 little more like, Oh, I've accidentally stumbled upon this thing. 354 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:28.200 I'm going to figure it out and then go from there. 355 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:31.640 Some of them are like arsenal things, and some of 356 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.400 them are because it tells you it's got the same 357 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:40.279 kind of like quest chain system for weapons and abilities 358 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:42.039 and that kind of stuff, and there is a bit 359 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:44.519 more of that in there, So I do think that 360 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:47.680 you won't be completely without that, But yeah, it is 361 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:50.559 I think that the tricky part of it is like 362 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:54.559 aimlessness is not part of the design in terms of 363 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:58.359 his his thing is like, narratively speaking, the objective is 364 00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:02.240 to do something swiftly and and figure it out in 365 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:08.480 a way that the empowerment comes from doing something quickly. 366 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:11.200 If you get what I mean, yeah, it's the same. 367 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:12.960 It's the same reason that a lot of people have 368 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:15.759 like replied to me, being like, the AI sucks, why 369 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.799 did you give it a ten? And like my response 370 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:21.440 to that always is, the AI doesn't suck. The AI 371 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.079 serves a purpose and you just don't understand what that 372 00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:27.920 purpose is within the grandest scheme of the game, because 373 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:31.079 the AI is just challenging enough to take you out, 374 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:34.359 but it's not a dark cells enemy system where it's 375 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.200 not trying to put our brick walls in front of 376 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:40.720 you because that ruins the momentum that it's trying to build. 377 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:43.680 And I think it has a similar kind of approach 378 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:46.680 in terms of that kind of how guided it is 379 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:47.400 because of it. 380 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:52.000 Yeah, the enemies are definitely there for you to have 381 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:56.039 fun with, aren't they. Exactly? You don't. It's not an 382 00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:57.839 accident that half of them are kind of stood looking 383 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:00.200 out over a cliff and with your back with they're 384 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.920 back to the pissing into the wind, right exactly. There's 385 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:07.680 just every kind of encounter seems to be set up 386 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:10.960 to like it's the opposite of the dart Souls because 387 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:12.559 it's not there to kind of like teach you something. 388 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:14.960 It's just there for you to like have fun, like 389 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.400 use your power, see you know, see see what you 390 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:18.720 can do. 391 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.039 And it's also like the start stop nature of it 392 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:25.319 in that, like in Dishonored, I feel like if you 393 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:29.839 would accidentally muck up a stealth section, everyone would be 394 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:31.839 on you and it would just be like, oh, well, 395 00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:33.599 that's that you. You'd have the feeling of like, oh 396 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:37.799 that's that ruined, that run ruined, whereas in this one, 397 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:41.319 it's like it kind of calms down way more forgiving, 398 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:42.960 and it's like they don't even talk to each other. 399 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.319 I'm trying to kind of get myself in that frame 400 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:52.119 of mind, I think, because certainly I think the first 401 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:58.680 what the boss character is called the visionaries Visionaries. The 402 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:02.440 first visionary that I took out is, I mean, without 403 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:06.000 wanting to kind of like go into spoilers, he's set 404 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:07.960 up in a mansion that's been turned into like a 405 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:08.759 role playing game. 406 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:11.279 Sign Oh you weren't there first. 407 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:12.240 That's interesting. 408 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:15.759 He's my favorite. He's my favorite. 409 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:17.799 That's the same one I went to first because of that. 410 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:20.319 I knew the power he has because of the and 411 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:21.759 I was like I need that power. 412 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:26.720 Yeah, So I got that power earlier because I killed 413 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:29.319 Juliana when she invaded me. 414 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:31.839 But you couldn't infuse it right. 415 00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:35.519 No, and I couldn't, but but I had like ten 416 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:41.200 minutes of using that power and then I was instantly like, 417 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:43.279 I can't live with that. This I need to figure out. 418 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.000 But in that one, that was kind of like I did. 419 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:50.599 I did a lot of the stealth, like most of 420 00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.640 the way up the building. But then when I think 421 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:59.200 specifically with him, when he panics, do you get everybody 422 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:01.880 coming after you? And so that's that's quite good that 423 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:03.920 I'm glad to hear that. It's not always the case 424 00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:07.400 that that happens. 425 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.880 Yeah, that one as well, Like when you do that run, 426 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:13.880 when stuff goes south, it it goes south in that 427 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:17.319 place very very quickly, because there is there is like 428 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:20.759 a narrative reason why it does go That sounds. 429 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:25.079 Yeah, John Luke, you've been playing a bit of it. 430 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:26.599 What do you make of it so far? 431 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:31.279 I am having a fantastic time with it so far, 432 00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:37.599 with a couple weird technical issues. I started it on 433 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:40.119 PS five and then I ended up switching over a 434 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:45.400 PC because originally I was gonna play with Georgia and 435 00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:47.960 then she was like, ah, this isn't really that interesting 436 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:51.279 to watch. So I was like, oh'll just play it 437 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.759 on my own and I switch over to PC because 438 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.960 I prefer playing these games on PC. I like the 439 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.000 precision controls, a get mouse and keyboard. But I haven't 440 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.359 getting like a couple of weird technical issues like some 441 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:05.920 crashes and stuff like that. Nothing like that's been like 442 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.279 outright ruining my time with the game. But just like 443 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.799 I'm a little like eh, like like I'm it says 444 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:14.279 something about the quality of the game that I'm like, 445 00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:18.799 I'm powering through it regardless, where like maybe other other games, 446 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:20.799 I would like give it a couple more days of 447 00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:22.960 like I'll give it a give it a day for 448 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.440 them to patch it out. Meanwhile, I'm like constantly thinking 449 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:31.400 about Death Loop and just wanting to keep playing it. 450 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:34.920 Like I like, the first night I played it, I 451 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:37.960 went to sleep and I had a dream where I 452 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.000 was in a death loop, like a just completely like 453 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.599 enveloped my brain. I don't know I was. I was 454 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:47.599 really tired when I that night, so maybe I was 455 00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:49.400 just I was just on one. My brain was just 456 00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:53.680 playing tricks on me. But uh, yeah, I don't really 457 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:55.599 know what to say that you guys like haven't already 458 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.759 said about other than like it's it's fucking fantastic because 459 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:01.319 it's really. 460 00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:03.880 Good at its almost it's almost kind of annoying in 461 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:05.880 it because like what if a game, you get a 462 00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:09.240 game that's good, uh, and you can but like has 463 00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:11.240 some issues, you can talk about it. But when a 464 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:14.039 game is this good, it's just like, yeah, it's just 465 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:16.279 it's just really good. Man. Yeah. 466 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:18.960 Yeah, I've just heard you guys talking about the last 467 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:20.960 couple of weeks in the podcast. Now I'm playing it 468 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:23.400 and I'm like, yeah, yeah, they're right, They're right about everything. 469 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:28.759 It's real. It's real damn good. I oh boy, I 470 00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:32.680 uh I did if it real bad? 471 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:33.200 Uh. 472 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.240 When I was playing last night, I had just gotten 473 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.799 the ability to infuse, and it was like, ah, perfect, 474 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:43.359 I'm gonna go on this great run. And I went 475 00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:46.440 on this like fantastic run where I like I soaked 476 00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:49.200 up like a ton of a ton of what do 477 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:55.480 they call like the infusing residuum, and then I was 478 00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:57.599 like all right, I gotta leave now so that I 479 00:26:57.599 --> 00:26:59.599 can spend these points. And then on the way out 480 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:03.880 I got killed and then it was like not thinking 481 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:05.599 about it and I was like, oh, I just got 482 00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:09.599 to leave so that I can uh infuse all this 483 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:12.279 stuff and didn't. I didn't go back to my body. 484 00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:16.519 So I went I went back and I was like, 485 00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:19.119 all right, time to infuse all this stuff I got, 486 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:21.480 I got powers, I got guns, and I was like, 487 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:24.920 why why is that at zero? Why? Oh I don't know. 488 00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:28.599 Oh no, So hard Lesson learned? 489 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:32.319 Which is which was it at night? As well? Was 490 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:34.720 it the last chance that you had during that day 491 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:35.920 to do anything? 492 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:40.240 I think I know, so I had one more chance, 493 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:41.960 and I was like, maybe I'll just go around and 494 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:45.640 get some things and then and then I immediately got 495 00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:48.480 killed and that was my last life. And I was like, 496 00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:51.359 all right, I'm just gonna go to bed because it's 497 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:55.920 twelve thirty. But hard Hard Lesson learned. But that's also 498 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.480 what I really like about the game is I feel 499 00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.480 like every time I die, I'm just I'm learning new 500 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:07.319 things I've been experimenting with, like turning like the objective 501 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.279 markers off for things that I haven't like, like the 502 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.079 first time I go through an area because I don't 503 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.960 want to, Like, I really like that the game does 504 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:16.720 tell you like, hey, here's where the person is, and 505 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.319 it certainly helps later on when you have like so 506 00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:23.119 many like stray observations and you just need to be like, oh, 507 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.200 where's that one building that burned down? Like I just 508 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:27.839 need to go there again, and you can just like 509 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:29.200 click a thing and it tells you where to go. 510 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.519 I love that, But the first time I'm going through, 511 00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.480 I'm trying it with all that stuff off so that 512 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.400 I can just sort of like I don't know, like 513 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.079 soak in the environment and kind of like poke around 514 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.319 and find things out. So like I think like the 515 00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:48.720 first quest where you have to find a battery, oh yeah, 516 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.279 to turn on that projector the battery is like right 517 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.160 to the left. Because I had the objective marker off, 518 00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.319 I ended up going all the way around the map 519 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:02.640 until like I'll bunker like forty minutes later and like 520 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:06.440 found a battery there, and then I accidentally exploded that battery, 521 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:08.440 and then I spent like another ten minutes searching for 522 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:10.640 a different battery, and I was like, man, wow, this 523 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:14.880 game is intense, Like just finding this one battery and 524 00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.799 then like I was like, oh, it was right, it 525 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:20.519 was right, It was right, But. 526 00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.839 It doesn't look like a battery in any meaningful, Like 527 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.119 I ran past it like two or three times before 528 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:28.279 I realized, oh, it's right there. 529 00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:30.759 And that is one hundred percent because I specifically turned 530 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.319 the objective markers off, because I did this when I 531 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:35.240 was when I tried on PS five and though I 532 00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.200 switched to PC, I kept the objective marker on and 533 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:40.680 it was like, the battery is right there, idiot. This 534 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:43.319 was supposed to be easy. You weren't supposed to do 535 00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:46.319 all that. And I was like, oh, but honestly, I 536 00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:49.359 like it was cool, like because I got to explore 537 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:53.440 a part of the map and like see you know, 538 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.519 like a hidden rooms and I'm like, oh, like that'll 539 00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.920 be useful later and kind of like taking those mental 540 00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:02.960 notes and yeah, I think just like the the level 541 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.519 of freedom the game has in the way it kind 542 00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:08.960 of like like seeds, you throughout all these areas in 543 00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:12.759 your and you're like kind of putting the pieces together 544 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.200 of like, uh, oh, this will be useful later. It 545 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.519 feels so masterful, like it should be overwhelming. Uh And 546 00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.160 it kind of is a little bit, but I think 547 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.680 just they do such a smart job of not making 548 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:33.079 it like feel overwhelming, if that makes sense. Yeah, damn 549 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.319 good game. Again, I like it a lot, and I 550 00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.359 really I just want to keep playing it. 551 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:39.759 A game you have been playing A lot of though 552 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:41.839 that we can talk about is Lost Judgment. 553 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:48.079 How is Judgment? Oh, Lost Judgment. I have a lot 554 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.200 of feelings about it, mostly good, couple a little a 555 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.599 little negative, but I would say overall it is a 556 00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:02.160 fantastic RGG game. If you're like RGG games, if you 557 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:06.880 like Judgment, I think this game will be a fantastic time. 558 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.119 Our review already went up by this morning by Richard Wakeling. 559 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:13.759 I cut the video review. Go check it out. It's 560 00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.839 really good spoiler free. I kept it spoiler free as possible. 561 00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.599 Something he touched on at the beginning of his review. 562 00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:21.680 He spent a lot of time on That's probably my 563 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:25.640 biggest observation is just how damn good the mini games 564 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.039 are in this one. That's like kind of the Yakuza series. 565 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:32.839 I would say, like the hallmark that makes it stand 566 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:38.279 out from like other kind of open ended, open world 567 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.279 RPG crime games. I don't know, there's there's really nothing 568 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:46.160 like Yakuza, but specifically like the mini just the variety 569 00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.640 of mini games and Yakuza games are always so impressive, 570 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:53.400 and this one they throw so god damn much at you. 571 00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.119 There is drone racing. 572 00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:57.079 There is. 573 00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:06.240 Like a dancing mini game. There is a a robot 574 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.799 like territory controlled minigame. There's a skateboarding mini game. There's 575 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:15.519 a biker minigame. There is the arcade games. They have 576 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:21.279 gone all out. They have a a a like House 577 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.160 of the Dead style like un game which was in 578 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.000 the first Judgment, but they did like a follow up 579 00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.039 to it, so it's like they have their own like 580 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:32.799 in Universe House of the Dead style mini game series. 581 00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:36.920 They have a ton of really fun obscure mini arcade 582 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.480 games this time around. They have like the usual ones 583 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:41.519 that they normally have, like Space Here and stuff, but 584 00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:47.400 they have Sonic the Fighters, which is a terrible, terrible 585 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.599 fighting game, but God bless them for putting it in. 586 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:53.240 They also have like they have a couple of really 587 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:58.160 good obscure like late era like early two thousands, late nineties, 588 00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.039 like Seguard Kade, which is a lot of fun. Like 589 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:02.759 I feel like they're really like pulling from their like 590 00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:06.960 obscure lexicon of arcade games, which is which is great, 591 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:11.160 and all of them like are fantastic, and they so 592 00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:18.039 they surround them all in this school like sub story 593 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.799 where Yagami as part of as part of the main quest, 594 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.960 Yogamy has to go to this this school to investigate 595 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.079 like some bullying, and then that kind of like ends 596 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.279 up relating to like the main murder plot. Uh So, 597 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.359 in order to stay at the school, he becomes an 598 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:40.200 outside advisor to the Mystery Research Club, which is like 599 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.640 a club where this this girl is like I'm going 600 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:47.440 to become a detective and I want to solve mysteries. 601 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.880 And so it spans out into this whole like insane 602 00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:54.079 subplot where you're trying to find this like mysterious being 603 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.079 called the professor who's like corrupting the kids and and 604 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:02.519 like giving them like he has like a website where 605 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:03.839 you can like go on to it and be like 606 00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:06.839 I want to get revenge on this person, and then 607 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:09.719 he'll like give you like some illegal thing that like 608 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:11.840 helps them do it. And so he's like he's corrupting 609 00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:13.800 the youth, and you have to your job is to 610 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.639 stop him. And so as part of that, Yagami has 611 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:21.039 to infiltrate all of these other clubs in the school, 612 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.440 So you'll like infiltrate the dancing club and it's got 613 00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.599 this fantastic like dancing rhythm mini game. It's really funny 614 00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:35.760 because so the actor who plays Jagamy is a is 615 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.280 a dancer, so like obviously like he can dance really well, 616 00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.519 and like that is reflected in the choreography. I assume 617 00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:44.760 they probably like he maybe helps with it. But in 618 00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.119 the game, Yagam is like, I can't dance at all, 619 00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:49.199 but I do know kung fu. Let me try, and 620 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:53.000 then like he does this like amazing choreo craft dance 621 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:57.760 where he mixes kung fu in there. But what's really 622 00:34:57.760 --> 00:34:59.440 fun is it's not just like, oh, you're going in 623 00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.079 you're just doing mini games. It's they also add in 624 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:08.440 these like pretty well written, heartfelt like storylines into each 625 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:13.280 quest that has I'm gonna say it mad Persona five vibes. 626 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:18.239 They feel like Persona five social links where you're like, okay, 627 00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.039 I'm going to go through. Each person has like a 628 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.960 different like problem and you're kind of helping them out 629 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.559 and Yagami's like giving them advice and then you're doing 630 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:29.159 like the minigame and that'll progress the your social link 631 00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:33.599 a little bit more each time. Even the music that 632 00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.880 plays at one point is just has that like same 633 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.840 like funky poppy persona energy, And I'm sitting there like, 634 00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.519 are you guys this is this on purpose? Did you guys? 635 00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.920 Like you know, go go go a floor over to 636 00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.000 the Atlas people and be like. 637 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.960 Hey, can we can we copy your homework? 638 00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.199 Can we copy your homework? Just just a little bit? 639 00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:02.239 But it is that has ended up being like, weirdly 640 00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:04.199 like the thing I like the most about the game 641 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.519 because it is massive. You can devote so much time 642 00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:15.159 to this, to these substories, and like they just they 643 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:18.519 don't get old at all, like and it's it's shocking 644 00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:20.119 to me how much of it is, like because it's 645 00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.719 all completely optional. Like there's the introduction to it at 646 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.360 the beginning, like as part of the main story, but 647 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.840 after that you're like you can completely ignore it. And 648 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.280 but you can. I want to say, you can put 649 00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:33.519 like a good like twenty hours of this like forty 650 00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:37.199 to fifty hour game alone into the school stuff if 651 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:42.679 you want. Wow, which is crazy. I've just been rambling 652 00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:43.320 for a hot minute. 653 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:45.800 I guess the questions. 654 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:52.719 I've never played I've never played a Yakuza game. Judgment. Okay, 655 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.800 so would this be a good place to jump in? 656 00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:04.719 Ah, maybe it's so, I will say, well, okay, so 657 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.920 my my requisite as a Yakaza fan, my my like 658 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:12.039 obligated answer is play zero. It's the perfect starting point. 659 00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.880 Judgment itself. The original judgment is also a good starting 660 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:20.639 point as well. I would say this one is a 661 00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.280 it's a good starting point in the sense that nothing 662 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.199 about that game's previous like main case, comes back into 663 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.519 play in this one. It doesn't spoil it even so, 664 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:33.519 like you could kind of play this one without really 665 00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:38.800 getting spoiled on what happened in the previous case. And 666 00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:41.639 but but I do think that original game does a 667 00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.719 better job of like introducing the characters and setting them up. 668 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:46.800 I think this game's actually kind of got like a 669 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:49.480 little bit of a rough intro, Like the first hour 670 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.079 or two was a little slow, and I was like, 671 00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.280 I don't know about this, But then like once it 672 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:56.280 gets going, it got a lot better versus the other game, 673 00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.119 which I the previous judgment, which I thought was like 674 00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:03.400 a stronger introduction to the character. So I would say 675 00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:05.800 you totally could, like, I think the game does an 676 00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:10.360 admirable job of setting it up, but I would still 677 00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:14.079 in my heart recommend either starting with the original judgment 678 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.519 or if you really want go back, go back in 679 00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:18.320 the play yakis zero. 680 00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.840 The thing like a dragon is also a good starting point. 681 00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:24.199 Like a dragon is also a good starting point until 682 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:25.599 it's not at the end. 683 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.519 But the thing that I always see people saying about 684 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:35.320 this this series is like, you know, oh, it's this 685 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.960 detective game and I spent twenty five hours playing a 686 00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.519 mini game in a like like, I just yeah, it's 687 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.159 such a it's such a bizarre like as someone who 688 00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.320 has no kind of like context for it, obviously not 689 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.480 having played the games, it just seems like such a 690 00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.440 bizarre series. 691 00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.559 Yeah, but that mini game, I mean, the one that 692 00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:59.679 we also rotten after dark is the Club Club Manager, 693 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.800 and that club is so fucking good, Like I just 694 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:06.519 want it as a standalone. 695 00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:08.400 I think that's the thing is that it's like there 696 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.719 are so many mini games in these games that and 697 00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.400 you're gonna always find like a couple that you like hate, 698 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.079 but the game never forces you to play a mini 699 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.920 game more than maybe like once if that so, Really, 700 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.880 it's just like I think what I like about the 701 00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:27.760 games is they just have this like freedom to them 702 00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:31.440 where it's like you can really decide how much you 703 00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:34.039 you personally want to spend with that stuff. You can 704 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.519 absolutely just blow through the main story, do it in 705 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.760 twenty hours and have like a good video game experience. 706 00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:42.760 But you can also be like, yeah, but I'm going 707 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.440 to spend twenty hours at this high school teaching these kids. 708 00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:49.719 How do I reach these kids how to read? How 709 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.599 do I reach these kids with the power of friendship 710 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.679 and being a detective? It's a. 711 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:01.480 It does it get on this on the on the 712 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:03.440 yak scale, how you know. 713 00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.400 It gets it gets pretty weird. There's some there's a 714 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:10.280 h there is a dog detective you get who who 715 00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:12.679 helps you because he has a he has a nose 716 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:16.760 that can specifically, he's been trained all his life to 717 00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:19.159 to smell mysteries. 718 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.199 And I'm happy. 719 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:26.280 To crimes that you can then solve. 720 00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.559 Is he like the sub story detector in this game? 721 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:31.320 Uh? 722 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:33.400 He is one of many? 723 00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.360 Uh, there's usually they have the they have the the 724 00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.760 little device that will tell you where sub stories. 725 00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:42.519 Are, right, Yeah, No, there's multiple. So there's like they 726 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:47.960 have a they have the dog. They have the online 727 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.119 social media feed called chatter that also leads you to stuff. 728 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.280 Sometimes you just find him on the map. You have 729 00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.320 the school stuff. Like there are so many different avenues 730 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.840 to get side stuff. There is a one objective of 731 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.639 there's a series of minigames involving or sorry, of side 732 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:10.599 stories involving a uh uh. It's called the uh I 733 00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.800 forget his name. He's the Dastardly Detective and he runs 734 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:18.119 the Illegal Detective Agency and he does uh he gives 735 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:23.639 people illegal things to for. He's not really detective, he's 736 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:26.320 just giving people things to do, like crimes. But he's 737 00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:30.599 like Yogamy. He's like evil Yogamy and you're like trying 738 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:34.320 to like stop him. That's like a whole series of 739 00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:39.199 sub stories you can do. There's uh, there's a whole 740 00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:44.320 boxing sub story where you go to this like uh 741 00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:49.880 boxing club. That's that's all like you know ex cons 742 00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:51.800 who are her you know, just trying to like find 743 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.119 a new life and they're finding their outlet through boxing, 744 00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.840 and Yogamy can box with them. And it's got its 745 00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:01.559 own separate like skill menu that you can put points into, 746 00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:04.760 and it's got its a whole separate mechanic like it 747 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.400 like you'd think like, oh, we'll just take the fighting 748 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:09.960 the normal fighting mechanic and put into the boxing thing 749 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.480 like No, they built an entirely separate combat system for 750 00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:17.199 this one thing. And you're like, and it's good, You're 751 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:20.880 You're It's like, it's it's insane. How how good all 752 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:22.639 the mini games are at this one? I think like 753 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.679 the quality is top tier. Uh, it's fantastic. 754 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.679 I think the You can read all full review of 755 00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:36.239 Last Judgment on games dot com. Richard Waitling reviewed it 756 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.119 for us and gave it a seven and said a 757 00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.159 lot of similar things to what you were saying. Very 758 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.039 minigame heavy, a lot of it fun and tries to 759 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.559 tackle some heavy themes. Does it okay that? 760 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:48.320 Yeah? That's the one thing I wanted to touch on 761 00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:52.280 was the the the theme so the game. This is 762 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:54.199 where I give like the big warning is that the 763 00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:59.239 game uh talks a lot about bullying and sexual battery 764 00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:04.800 and it does uh go into that stuff in to 765 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.880 to a level that I wasn't expecting, Like you you 766 00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:12.039 don't with the with the bullying, they like do show 767 00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:14.679 some of it. And so if you were a sensitive 768 00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:16.599 to that kind of thing, I think that is absolutely 769 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:20.440 worth knowing going in and maybe like asking or like 770 00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:22.679 looking up some spoilers and kind of seeing like if 771 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.519 that could uh, you know, be an issue for you. 772 00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.039 Same with a sexual battery. They don't show anything, but 773 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:32.639 you kind of see like the like security footage aftermath 774 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:36.320 of of a woman getting like groped on a train, 775 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:41.360 you know, which is obviously like a big, a big 776 00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:45.440 issue in Japan. And at first I felt like the 777 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:48.360 game was handling both those topics very seriously and in 778 00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:52.960 a way that I found to be uh, pretty nuanced. 779 00:43:54.320 --> 00:44:01.880 And then there's this there's this like potential plot twists 780 00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.400 that they kind of seed that starts to undermine some 781 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.960 of that, and I was I was sitting there and 782 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.360 we were like, oh, game, don't do this. I don't 783 00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:15.519 think this is the right way to go, And unfortunately 784 00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:20.239 kind of goes in that direction. And I think that 785 00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:23.840 there have been some very mixed reactions from from the internet. 786 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.760 Is definitely go check out the Polygon review. They did 787 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:31.840 not like that stuff at all and thought it was 788 00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:35.320 it ruined the game for them how badly they thought 789 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:38.159 it handled that stuff. So I think people are going 790 00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:40.079 to be sensitive to that and and kind of have 791 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:42.159 their own feelings on it. But I really do think 792 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.840 that's worth knowing going in because that, to me is 793 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:52.599 like the one sore spot on the game, which is 794 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.920 is a real shame because I don't think they needed 795 00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:58.960 to go that direction. And overall, I do find the 796 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:03.679 main mystery quite compelling, and you know, like the villain 797 00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:06.800 is excellent, and there are some really good good moments, 798 00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:10.360 and Yogamy and co are fantastic. But yeah, that's the 799 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.599 one thing about the game that kind of kind of 800 00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:16.840 sours the experience, not enough for me that I you know, 801 00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:21.079 I didn't enjoy my time. I obviously still love it, 802 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:24.719 but I do think that is worth worth knowing going in. 803 00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.599 That's good to know. Well, it's the games out of 804 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:29.400 the way. Let's get those filthy games out of the way. 805 00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:34.239 Let's talk about some emotion pictures, shall we. We've a 806 00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:38.320 few of us have seen shang Chi, but I'm not 807 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.679 going to start with shuang Chi. We're gonna start with 808 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.159 White Lotus, Yes, which Chris has been watching. 809 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.400 Oh guys, you got to watch the White Lettuce. It's 810 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.960 a new well, I think it's I don't know if 811 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.360 it's new. It came out over the summer. I think 812 00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:57.480 a lot of people were talking about it recently. HBO 813 00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:01.079 show is on now TV in the UK and it's 814 00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:06.280 a limited series of six episodes, but it's since been 815 00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.239 turned into an anthology series because it's just that good. 816 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:13.280 I am four episodes in and it is one of 817 00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:17.880 the best things I've watched in ages. And it's three 818 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.119 different groups of kind of wealthy people staying at a 819 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:26.960 luxury Hawaii resort, and it's kind of about the rich 820 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.400 people and also the people who work there and have 821 00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:31.880 to put up with them and deal with all their 822 00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:35.639 kind of rich people issues. So there's like a family 823 00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:40.920 with a kind of Sheryl Sandberg mum, a honeymooning couple 824 00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:45.000 and their honeymoon gradually gets worse and worse because then 825 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:49.360 kind of piss off the hotel manager. And there's also 826 00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.719 a woman who is there to scatter her mother's ashes. 827 00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:55.920 And she's played by Jennifer Coolidge, who. 828 00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:58.079 Okay, I was going to ask because I know that 829 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.440 she was in it, and she is a fucking love 830 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:01.320 Jennifer coleage. 831 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:05.519 She is having the time of her life. Every single 832 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.960 scene she's in is either like either you're like covering 833 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.840 your face because it's so uncomfortable because of how awkward, 834 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:19.519 or you're just it's just hysterically funny. I just rewatch Succession, 835 00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:23.119 and it feels very much cut from the same cloth 836 00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:25.440 as that in terms of its kind of this is 837 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.800 how the other half live. And in Succession you often 838 00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:32.079 get like kind of cutaways of service staff arriving and 839 00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:35.199 waiting tables and cleaning up after the roy family after 840 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.320 they like smash something up or whatever, whereas in this 841 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:41.280 they're given kind of as much screen time as the 842 00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:44.559 rich people and kind of are their own, fully fleshed 843 00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:48.159 out characters. And it is. It is genuinely laugh out 844 00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:50.039 loud funny in a way that I don't think a 845 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.840 lot of shows are, but also has like a kind 846 00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:55.639 of dramatic conceit at its core, which I think is 847 00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:58.599 really compelling. But it's just so good everyone needs to 848 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:03.800 watch it. The this central the hotel manager is I 849 00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:05.559 should have looked at the name of the actor, but 850 00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:09.639 he's like this ki Week guy, and he is. He 851 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:13.960 is hysterically funny. He's he's also best best mustache in 852 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:15.280 a TV show, Tony Tell You One. 853 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.280 I'm calling it wow, calling it like. 854 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.440 I really want to watch it, obviously, I'm I'm deep 855 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:26.400 in my Sopranos watch and but this does feel like 856 00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:30.239 quite a nice a moose bouche a little palate cleanser 857 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:33.800 before Succession series three, which I am very like. I'm 858 00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:35.920 not even watching the trailer for it because I'm just 859 00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:39.000 so in day one on Succession. 860 00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:44.440 Yeah, if you watch, if you like Succession, you'll I 861 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:48.239 think I love Richard Murray. Murray Bartlett is the name 862 00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:50.840 of the if the actor. 863 00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.760 By the way, Mary, I'm going to watch that. 864 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.599 I'm going to watch that anyways. Shang Chi, what a 865 00:48:57.679 --> 00:48:58.440 fucking film. 866 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.840 Ah, so good. 867 00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.679 I'm so glad that it's good. I was hoping, like 868 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:06.679 I was. I was waiting for them to do a 869 00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:11.679 kung fu like martial arts style entry in the Marvel 870 00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:15.400 Cinematic Universe, and I was praying that it wasn't Iron Fist. 871 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.559 As much as I like Iron Fist as a character, 872 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:21.880 he's wildly problematic as a character. Also, Like goes to 873 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:26.480 a TV shot Yeah, and it was ship it was terrible. 874 00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:30.599 But like Iron Fist, Danny Rand's whole thing is like 875 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.559 he goes and he like goes to a far off 876 00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:39.280 nation of like of people and like becomes the champion 877 00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:43.440 white Man appears and captures the abilities of like eternal Dragon, 878 00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:46.119 and it suddenly crowned the iron Fist, and I was like, 879 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.719 that's not gonna work. I hope they don't use him. 880 00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:50.840 And instead they did the right thing and they brought 881 00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:56.199 up Shang Chi and now that, like, I'm my favorite 882 00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:58.840 thing about it is it's just incredible. It's got so 883 00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:01.599 much heart. Like that's what I really love about it. 884 00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:05.239 It is a story like Aquafine is amazing in it, 885 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:10.400 similarly is amazing, Michelle Yoh's in it, Gemma Chan's amazing 886 00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.280 in it. It's got like music by Rich Bryan, who's 887 00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:18.119 like amazing. The soundtrack is so good, and like it 888 00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:21.960 it reminded me of how much I love like martial 889 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.800 arts movies, because that's what I grew up watching, like 890 00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:30.360 our resident, like Jackie Chan fan is Kurt, but like 891 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:34.039 I grew up watching like old Bruce Lee movies, loads 892 00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:37.400 of Jackie Chan movies, like Western Marshal Arts movies as 893 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:39.480 well on for my sins, I watched a lot of 894 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:44.239 Steven Sagall movies, but like, like I love that stuff, 895 00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.920 and like, watching this movie reminded me how much I 896 00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:50.760 love that, Like seeing that first boss fight on the 897 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:56.559 on the on the bus and like, yeah. 898 00:50:56.480 --> 00:51:00.840 Also captured the unique fear of being in San Francisco 899 00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:05.440 and going down as it fell on a bus when it. 900 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.039 Just goes over and you think you're on some kind 901 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:07.960 of rollercounts that. 902 00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.639 Like fights breaking out on the on the But. 903 00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:13.159 No, I was. 904 00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:17.039 I saw it in forty X because I'm a legend, 905 00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:22.519 and that bit went in particular was very very tense. 906 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.960 I felt very immerse. It was very good. 907 00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.000 Yeah, I mean, like I think it's like, at the 908 00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.920 heart of it, it is a story about family and 909 00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:35.960 the misguidedness that can come from one like being too 910 00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:40.599 attached or like not being present enough, and also like 911 00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:44.039 looking away from your duties and what you sacrificed in 912 00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:47.519 like looking after yourself instead of preserving your family. To 913 00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:49.840 a degree, it comes at the theme of family from 914 00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.559 so many different angles based on the characters that it's 915 00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:57.920 currently like portraying that it's just like a really narratively 916 00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.480 texted movie. And then on top of all that is 917 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.880 just the cool Marvel shit that you want from it. 918 00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:06.679 The fight scenes are easily the best fight scenes in 919 00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:10.719 any Marvel film, like everyone loves like Civil War, Winter 920 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.719 Soldier or whatever it is, which has like it's got 921 00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:18.119 good Western fight sequences, which are lots of cutaways and 922 00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:21.800 like dramatic things happening. This is like intricate martial arts 923 00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:25.079 that it's like beautiful to look at, and it's like 924 00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.119 such a thrill to see, like the stunts happening and 925 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.800 the choreography of the cantor hand combat, and even when 926 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.400 it goes into like the slightly more fantastic at the end, 927 00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.639 it's still got that amazing It goes full anime at 928 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:39.840 the end, and I was like, yes, this is what 929 00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.360 it's about. This is so good. But yeah, Lucy, you 930 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:43.719 watch it as well. What did you make of it? 931 00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:44.280 Oh? 932 00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.719 I fucking loved it. I almost cried at one point 933 00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.800 because it's so heartfelt. I thought like it was a 934 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:57.159 rare one for me in that every joke landed, which 935 00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.960 normally never happens in a Marvel movie. And also there's 936 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:05.159 a there's a cameo guests who fucking steals the show 937 00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:07.039 that I really really loved. 938 00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:08.159 But also it. 939 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:12.320 Was going into that movie, I was like, I wonder 940 00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:16.079 if they'll like reference this character, and they absolutely reference 941 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:21.760 it in a way that I was like, yes, you guys, yeah, 942 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:26.719 I'm sure you can get if you've seen any of 943 00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:30.639 the any of the relevant movies to this one you 944 00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:34.199 will know. But yeah, it's so glad that he was 945 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:37.800 in it. But yeah, it's just like a really solid film. 946 00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:43.280 And I was kind of waning on Marvels. Not waning, 947 00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:47.880 but like Black Widow looks absolutely chronic chronically bad. 948 00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:48.840 I've still. 949 00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:56.199 I just have No, it doesn't bad, it doesn't look bad. 950 00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:58.039 It just looks so bland. 951 00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:02.519 Like there's only one that's the one thing that I'm like, 952 00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:06.199 Rachel periods in it, but like Rachel VISs is the 953 00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:07.599 one thing where I'm like, I want to see Rachel 954 00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:10.880 Visce doing some shit, but like in all other respects, 955 00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:12.800 like it looks very bland. 956 00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:16.599 I don't care about Black Widow as a character. She's 957 00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:19.719 I'm just gonna say she's ship in the main films, 958 00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:23.800 Like she's only good when she's like paired up and 959 00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:27.480 has a kind of relationship with Bruce or is like 960 00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.039 doing the Sun's getting real little big guy thing, and 961 00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:31.920 you're like, oh, she's got the ability to like keep 962 00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:36.639 this monster in like restrained. Outside of that, could not 963 00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.360 care about Black Widow one bit. You could remove her 964 00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:41.760 from the entire franchise, and I think that you wouldn't 965 00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:45.639 lose that much like the character. Everyone hates his Clint, 966 00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.679 but he's more impactful to the Avengers or like every 967 00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:52.199 phase of like the MCU movies than Black Widow. Is 968 00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:56.039 we all know, yeah that that thing happened in Avengers 969 00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:58.719 Infinity War and End Game that in those Black Widow, 970 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.679 but like the fact that you happen to her says 971 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.000 more about how disposable she is as a character than 972 00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:09.159 anyone else. So like, but like watching this movie, I 973 00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.199 was like, oh, yes, I'm excited about this again. I'm 974 00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:14.639 hype for Marvel again in a big, big way and 975 00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.400 I really want them to just I want I want 976 00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:20.760 a shang Chi like two tomorrow if I can have it. 977 00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:23.719 When I'm very excited for the future. 978 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:28.400 When you say about the fight scenes the choreography, are 979 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:30.559 we talking like because for me, the kind of high 980 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:33.559 watermark of that of modern films is like the Raid. 981 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:35.960 Is it kind of that sort of level? 982 00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.159 No, I don't. I don't think it comes to the 983 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.280 Raid level because there's a like a there's a brutality 984 00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:43.480 and like a raw list to the rave, which is 985 00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:47.199 like and it comes a little bit from like the choreography, 986 00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:49.239 but it also just comes from how it's shot, right, 987 00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:52.000 It's like, yeah, well that's that's the kind of lighting 988 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:56.400 and yes, because like it yeah gone. 989 00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:59.280 Because like in The Raid, obviously a lot of the 990 00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.320 kind of the way it's shot is to let fight 991 00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:05.679 scenes play out so you can kind of see the 992 00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.280 choreography right and and get a kind of sense of that. 993 00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:12.840 Yeah, there's like I'm like, similarly is like amazing as 994 00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:19.440 shang Chi, but he's athletic, He's clearly super talented as 995 00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:21.920 a martial artists, but like Eco Oas is on another level, 996 00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:25.760 like he's that man is a killing machine and like 997 00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:30.039 his body moves in ways that doesn't seem human and 998 00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:33.000 like that's kind of how what those movies hinge on. 999 00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.719 The kind of like fight sequences in those and there 1000 00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.920 is that also brutality of it where you know they 1001 00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:41.159 have the knives knives element and like weapons are involved 1002 00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:44.000 and it is like bone crunching. This is a little 1003 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:47.920 more like palatable for mainstream, but it still has the 1004 00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:50.639 intricacy of it feels like at times it feels like 1005 00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.280 a crouching tiger Hitden dragon style fight sequences. They have 1006 00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.159 that kind of stuff where it's like Chinese cinema like 1007 00:56:56.280 --> 00:57:00.360 almost like wire stuff where it's got like a majestic 1008 00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:03.039 quality to it, and then other times some you have 1009 00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:05.679 some fight sequences that are a little more like Jackie Chan, 1010 00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:08.880 like in without the humor part of it. There's some 1011 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:12.039 human actually, but like it's not like slapstick in the 1012 00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:14.000 way that Jackie Chan's stuff is to be, but it's 1013 00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.360 got say that same kind of rhythm and like momentum 1014 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.639 and also like kinetic movement to it, where similarly like 1015 00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:23.480 a Sean Cheese like moving around environments in a big way. 1016 00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:25.559 And then it also has the kind of like straight 1017 00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:28.800 up like channeling some energies kind of stuff like gonna 1018 00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:32.920 do a cameha baby that kind of stuff. So it's 1019 00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:35.639 like a bunch of flavors, but like I don't think 1020 00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:38.960 it comes anywhere close to like the raid levels of 1021 00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:45.119 like fight by choreography. Yeah yeah, uh, Chris, are you 1022 00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:47.320 planning to see it? Or Jean? Look? Do you? John look? 1023 00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:47.960 You watch it right? 1024 00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:48.800 No? 1025 00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:52.000 I want to see it, but I refuse to go 1026 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:55.480 to a movie theater, so I'm waiting for that that 1027 00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:56.880 Disney plus. 1028 00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:00.760 Yeah, I'm definitely gonna go see it. I think I 1029 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:03.280 don't know about San Francisco a bit like I've been 1030 00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.079 to the cinema a few times over here and it's 1031 00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:09.239 like basically empty every time I go. Yeah, even when 1032 00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:12.360 even when it's kind of like peak times around where 1033 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:15.599 I live. So that's that's really handy. Yeah. No, I 1034 00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:18.199 definitely am definitely going to go see it at some point. 1035 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.079 Yeah, I like I had the same experience. I was 1036 00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:25.159 very nervous about going to the cinema and I went 1037 00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:27.679 and it was like just empty. It was like me 1038 00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:29.599 and my younger brother and there were a few people 1039 00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:33.800 scattered around, a few loud people. I will say, people 1040 00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:38.559 haven't developed any good cinema decorum in the times since 1041 00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:42.800 I really wanted to. But it was like a group 1042 00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:44.800 of girls, and it would have been really awkward if I 1043 00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:46.800 was like, can you be quiet please, Like. 1044 00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:50.599 Oh no, I live for it. I live for it. 1045 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:56.920 If you bring out a fucking mobile phone, I'm on you. 1046 00:58:56.079 --> 00:59:00.199 I give you ten seconds. 1047 00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:02.159 To They weren't. They weren't doing that. They were just 1048 00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.960 like they were like laughing at a joke and then 1049 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.039 like if it was just laughing at a joke and 1050 00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.519 then ending there, it's fine. But they laughed at a 1051 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:12.679 joke and then they laughed at each other, laughing at 1052 00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:14.760 the joke, and then they'd have like a few comments 1053 00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:18.400 about the thing, and I'm just like stop, stop, You're like, 1054 00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:22.480 fucking I don't have that. The other thing was like, 1055 00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:24.840 if they were nearer to me, I would have been like, 1056 00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:26.639 can you shut the fuck up? Please, But they were 1057 00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.519 like I would have to have walked across the screening 1058 00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:31.159 to be like please. 1059 00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:36.119 Friends, I've been with people who have like walked across 1060 00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:36.840 to do. 1061 00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:40.079 I can't. 1062 00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:42.360 One of my one of my friends, went to see 1063 00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:46.199 Tenant last year and it was just after cinemas had reopened, 1064 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:48.480 and he was very excited and he went with his wife. 1065 00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:51.880 He's like, he's in his thirties. And he sat down 1066 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:56.239 and some girls, well some people behind him were talking loudly, 1067 00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:59.079 and he got progressively more and more angry as like 1068 00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.880 their first kind of half the film went on, and 1069 01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:04.599 then he turned round like it just had enough. I 1070 01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:08.159 was just like, shot the fuck up. But like as 1071 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.000 soon as he turned round and started shouting it, he 1072 01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:14.039 realized that all the girls were like twelve, and he 1073 01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:18.960 is like a hairy, thirty three year old man, was 1074 01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:26.199 children exactly. It was like they didn't say a word afterwards, 1075 01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:27.960 so I couldn't. 1076 01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:30.119 I couldn't make out how old they were. That was 1077 01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.599 the other thing, Like they sounded really young because I 1078 01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:34.119 didn't want to run up on them and be like 1079 01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:35.880 I just screamed a ten year olds. 1080 01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.360 And it's like the Simpsons where the guy gets the 1081 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:41.440 really tall guy gets out of the tiny car. It's 1082 01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:44.280 like a you think it's three girls, but it's actually 1083 01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:47.159 a bodybuild. You think it's three girls, but it's a 1084 01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:49.840 bodybuilder lying across three seats because he's so big. 1085 01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:54.679 God, I mean, well, the worst one I've ever ever seen, 1086 01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:59.119 just a flagrant disrespect for other people in a theater 1087 01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:02.079 was where and we went to fucking go and see Hamilton, 1088 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:09.920 and the prick in front of us had a laptop. 1089 01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:11.239 In a show, a live show. 1090 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.480 And I and this was like on the second or 1091 01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:17.639 third night, because Tam is incredible at getting tickets to things, 1092 01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.280 and so I just I saw Red and I just 1093 01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:21.760 like tapped him on the shoulder and I was like, 1094 01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:25.320 I'm sorry, you're recording this or something. Oh, I actually 1095 01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:27.519 work on the show. And I was like, go work 1096 01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:30.480 on the show from behind the stage then and he shuts. 1097 01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:33.320 But the thing is like his laptop was like full 1098 01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:34.719 brightness and he was like. 1099 01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:38.440 Yeah, I mean like and. 1100 01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:40.880 He was would have been polite if he hadn't have 1101 01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:44.239 been so such a prick about it. 1102 01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:45.400 Oh that beats mine. 1103 01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:46.679 Mine was that. 1104 01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:54.239 A like young couple brought their uh I'm pretty sure 1105 01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:57.679 a three year old and a five year old to 1106 01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:02.199 the showing of Batman v. Super Man, which was which 1107 01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:05.519 just made it already bad movie experience ten times worse 1108 01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:09.960 because the five year old in particular, like could not 1109 01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.440 give less of a ship about what was happening on 1110 01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:15.000 that movie. Like that movie opens up with like Bruce 1111 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.599 Wayne's parents getting murdered and like, these kids don't fucking 1112 01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:20.440 care about that at all, and the five year old 1113 01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:25.079 was like literally running back and forth through like around 1114 01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:31.039 the seating, and eventually the the the dad had to 1115 01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:33.599 like take them out and like leave, and we were like, oh, 1116 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:36.760 thank god came back like twenty minutes later, We're like, no, 1117 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.079 that's when you leave. That's when you're like, uh, Like. 1118 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:43.159 I had to understand the math a bit. 1119 01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:48.199 I had that a few years ago. But it was Widows, 1120 01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:55.679 like the Steve McQueen film which opens with Widows, No, 1121 01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:57.519 there's a guy. There was a guy with like his 1122 01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:01.440 two kids watching Widows, which opens with an incredibly loud 1123 01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:07.480 and violent, like fucked robbery that ends with like that 1124 01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:09.440 ends with a lot of violence. I mean, my friend 1125 01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:12.400 were just like, this is this is them traumatized for life. 1126 01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:17.360 Wait, not not to not to be like a one upper, 1127 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:21.800 but we went to see Hereditary and a guy, oh 1128 01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:24.880 my god, like eight to ten year old kid and 1129 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:28.519 we and the kid looked so bored because obviously herd 1130 01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.880 is such a slow bird and like, I just I 1131 01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:35.280 remember walking past him as we came in inside out, 1132 01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:37.679 and I was like, are you serious? 1133 01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:39.880 I thought you were going to talk about the other 1134 01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:42.719 guy to the right of us, who was like the 1135 01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:47.320 perfect like mark for every single scary movie. Every reaction 1136 01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:51.239 he had to the movie was like exaggerated by a million. 1137 01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:54.119 There was one point where he leapt up off the 1138 01:03:54.199 --> 01:04:00.800 floor and onto his seat and went, no, my god, relaxed, brought. 1139 01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:02.840 A pint of milk and was just taking it from 1140 01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:04.559 the bottle to the cinema and I was like a 1141 01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:05.880 serial killer. 1142 01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:12.239 I think my favorite all time cinema moment, like interrupting 1143 01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:14.239 moment actually made me laugh. It was like we were. 1144 01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:16.599 I was in a East London cinema I think I 1145 01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:19.400 can't remember it was. I think it was bethnal Green 1146 01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.639 or like Stratford at this point, and we were watching 1147 01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:25.119 one of the Fast and Furious movies. I can't remember 1148 01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:28.440 which one at this point, but it was one. Inevitably, 1149 01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:30.960 they have that shot where lady gets out of the car. 1150 01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:33.000 It was an early one because lady gets out of 1151 01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:37.599 the car and camera does slow panning over her curvaceous 1152 01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:41.239 body and framing the car and like the sweat and 1153 01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:44.679 man and is an Indian man. I only I highlight 1154 01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:47.280 it it is an Indian man because it's part of 1155 01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:50.679 this story. It's dead silent while this is happening. There's 1156 01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.960 like just music and then from next to my hair 1157 01:04:53.400 --> 01:05:02.280 so sexy. I was like, I just burst out laughing. 1158 01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:09.639 Looked at it. I was like, you little relaxed. Anyways, 1159 01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:14.000 if you've got any memorable cinema going experiences, please send 1160 01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:16.960 them in. We're not gonna do emails today, but we 1161 01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:20.159 will do and you can send us your cinema experiences 1162 01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:23.559 to after Dark podcast at GameSpot dot com, or you 1163 01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:26.000 can help myself for Lucy to join the discord. I've 1164 01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:30.360 got a bit of a backlog on admitting people into 1165 01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:32.199 the discord. I say a bit of a backlog. It's 1166 01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:34.599 like three people that I can do in like five minutes, 1167 01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:38.519 but it's very busy and we will read any notable 1168 01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:42.000 ones out. They could be good cinema going experiences, or 1169 01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:44.199 there can be ones where you've absolutely popped off at 1170 01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:49.960 people for being loud. In the meantime, John, Look, where 1171 01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:51.320 can people find you and what you're up to? 1172 01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:54.880 You can find me at Tomic Sipeke on Twitter. Go 1173 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.559 check out Boss Judgment review. Like I mentioned earlier, Pretty 1174 01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:01.440 proud of that edit. I think it's it's a good game, 1175 01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:11.000 and otherwise I'm gonna be doing stuff nice. I love stuff, Yeah, 1176 01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:12.679 I love Stuff's great. 1177 01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:16.119 Lucy, where can people find you and what you're up to? 1178 01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:21.719 I'm on Twitter at Lucy James Games. I'm at work stuff. 1179 01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:24.320 I don't know what I'm doing very online shows. Taking 1180 01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:26.159 a break this week, but we'll be back next week. 1181 01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:29.440 And I'm on Twitch now at Lucy. 1182 01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:32.719 James Games there as well. You're not at on Twitch, 1183 01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:33.159 are you? 1184 01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:37.719 You're just you're a slash Chris. Were you at what 1185 01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:38.320 you've been doing? 1186 01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:41.960 You can find me at Chris Morris nine to one 1187 01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:47.480 on Twitter. Like we said earlier, Expert Reacts live this Saturday. 1188 01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:49.800 Where I say live, I mean it's going live on YouTube. 1189 01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:50.360 It's not live. 1190 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:55.119 That'd be exciting though, And I'll be doing some more 1191 01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:56.840 videos that I can't really talk. 1192 01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:57.559 About right now. 1193 01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:00.280 Yeah, I love how Old. 1194 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:04.000 Just working on video, coming up to coming up to 1195 01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:08.599 embargo season. Isn't it serious? Embargo? 1196 01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:10.920 Yeah? 1197 01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:13.079 For me. You can find me on Twitter to more H. 1198 01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:18.880 I am also working on stuff. Read my review death 1199 01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:22.840 Loop on GameSpot dot com and you can find me 1200 01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:26.239 on twitch twitch dot tv for slash to more H. 1201 01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:29.480 I'm currently playing Hades. Good game, good fun game. And 1202 01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:33.480 I'm also like getting angry at Twitter. I g n's brackets. 1203 01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:35.840 That's what I did yesterday. They were like best game 1204 01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:37.559 of all time, Brackets, let's do it, and I was like, 1205 01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:40.000 I'm gonna do my own one. And it ended in heartbreak. 1206 01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:43.199 I had to make some absolutely devastating cut yesterday. 1207 01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:47.280 It was heartbreaking watching you some of that. 1208 01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:50.039 It was rough, but yeah, you can see that on 1209 01:07:50.079 --> 01:08:00.599 twitch and we will see you next week. Goodbye. Frump. 1210 01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:15.400 Don't trunk, don't trank, don't trumping