Speaker 1: Joining us now from The Clemson Insider. He's also the
Speaker 1: host of a great podcast you should listen to every
Speaker 1: single week to Believe in Clemson Football podcast, It's the
Speaker 1: great Will vander Ward. What's happening, Bud?
Speaker 2: Hey Man? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Man? It's all you look, last time we talked a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, Clemson was, you know, coming off
Speaker 1: a hard one against Georgia there in terms of the
Speaker 1: expectations being what they were. Since then, it's been all
Speaker 1: systems go on offense, and let's just focus in on
Speaker 1: what happened last week as Clemson came out against an
Speaker 1: NC State team that has a lot of talent, and boy,
Speaker 1: right off the bat, just another huge first half.
Speaker 2: Will, Yeah, they again they just looked good offensively. And also,
Speaker 2: you know, give the first team defense credit too, because
Speaker 2: all they did was go out and get a three
Speaker 2: and out, a turnover, turnover three and out and get
Speaker 2: the ball back four times for the offense, and so
Speaker 2: you know, that's what you want to you know, because
Speaker 2: I tell everybody, Yeah, the offense getting the twenty eight
Speaker 2: points and thirty five points back to back weeks in
Speaker 2: the first quarter, but you got to get the ball back.
Speaker 2: You can't just you know what I'm saying, You just
Speaker 2: don't get you know, the football and.
Speaker 1: Then get it again.
Speaker 2: It's not make them take them yea. You know, So
Speaker 2: you get a little bit of the credit to the offense,
Speaker 2: I mean to the defense as well for getting the
Speaker 2: football back to its offense knowing they got the hot
Speaker 2: end right now. And that's what's been been going on,
Speaker 2: and that's why you're seeing Clemson just really just this
Speaker 2: confidence this offense has in itself. It's just at a
Speaker 2: different level right now. Probably you need to go back
Speaker 2: probably twenty nineteen. I even say probably even more twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: It's confident they are because I don't know if I
Speaker 2: was the offense, even though it looked good at times
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, I don't think it looked this good
Speaker 2: for two games. So we'll see, you know, as they
Speaker 2: as they keep going along and they can keep up
Speaker 2: this pace. But right now they look really good. The
Speaker 2: last two weeks.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of credit will goes to Garret Riley.
Speaker 1: I think who's the coordinator that's been under fire. And
Speaker 1: obviously so you earn your reputation in football because your
Speaker 1: performance reflects upon that, But I think Georgia is a
Speaker 1: high bar to meet in the first week of a season,
Speaker 1: and there were some struggles last year. But you saw
Speaker 1: this offense come to life in the second half of
Speaker 1: that Bowl game against Kentucky. And look, I think the
Speaker 1: dirt raid offense looks awfully good right now. Credit to
Speaker 1: Garrett Riley for coordinating this whole thing.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, he's I mean, but Dabo brought this up
Speaker 2: to the day we're talking to him and he said
Speaker 2: that part of why Riley advice to talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: the way he's calling plays and stuff, Well, it kind
Speaker 2: of goes twofold. He's got confidence in his offense right now,
Speaker 2: and he's got confidence in his quarterback. And so when
Speaker 2: a coordinator has confidence in his players that he's going
Speaker 2: to call plays the way it's meant to be called
Speaker 2: and run that offense the way it's meant to be run,
Speaker 2: that's what you're seeing right now. And so people can
Speaker 2: understand you didn't see that last year out of the offense.
Speaker 2: They just didn't run. They were still learning the system,
Speaker 2: they were trying to grow as players themselves. They had
Speaker 2: a young offensive line a year ago, remember, and they
Speaker 2: had a young quarterback first year starting. Well, now you
Speaker 2: get year two and you're seeing the difference right of
Speaker 2: this team. And then you're seeing the difference in Garrett
Speaker 2: Riley calling the plays because his quarterbacks going out there
Speaker 2: slinging it, his wide receivers are catching everything, his offensive
Speaker 2: lines blocking is probably at the best level they have
Speaker 2: in a long time at Clemson's absolutely, and the wide
Speaker 2: receivers are blocking and solo the tight ends, and so
Speaker 2: he's got full confidence that, hey, I can call this
Speaker 2: play and know that it's going to get executed. And
Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest difference in what Garrett Riley
Speaker 2: is right now as compared to what he.
Speaker 1: Was last year's to play caller chatting with Will Van
Speaker 1: Dervoord right now he's from the Clemson Insider dot com
Speaker 1: and Will you mentioned the offensive line. Look, give them
Speaker 1: a lot of credit too, because they're working hand in
Speaker 1: hand with this offensive coordination. Matt Luke deserves a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for that. And then guys like philm maffa,
Speaker 1: who was a little bit banged up in that game
Speaker 1: one hundred and seven yards on seven in the Blood
Speaker 1: win against inn C State, And then they have found
Speaker 1: themselves as you rode here for the Clemson Insider, a
Speaker 1: great backup plan in Jay Haynes, who is getting a
Speaker 1: chance to shine. It's not just Haynes, there's other guys now,
Speaker 1: young players getting their shot. With these margins growing so
Speaker 1: wide in the first half, that's great for depth down
Speaker 1: the stretch as you build your team to what we
Speaker 1: hope to be. If you're a Clemson fan, a playoff contender.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, I think people forget those years you
Speaker 2: had Karna set and Russian for sixteen hundred yards. You
Speaker 2: also had Tavian Feaster and LYNDJ. Dixon Russian for six
Speaker 2: seven hundred yards. So that's big because what you do
Speaker 2: is you got to You're getting experience for your other
Speaker 2: running backs as well, and now you can use them.
Speaker 2: They're getting valuable reps to get first team defenses, and
Speaker 2: you can use that on film what they do good,
Speaker 2: what they don't do well, and you can you know,
Speaker 2: you show them, you can coach them up on that.
Speaker 2: Those are all things that benefit the benef when you
Speaker 2: get other guys into the game and playing and getting
Speaker 2: those big leads and doing that is beneficial down the
Speaker 2: road from a depth standpoint, and you start what you
Speaker 2: start doing, and you start building your depth. You want
Speaker 2: to know why Clinston was so good, they're in a
Speaker 2: six year stretch. Well, go back to twenty fifteen and sixteen, John,
Speaker 2: when they weren't that good on defense, right, But their
Speaker 2: first team was really good, but their backups weren't. But
Speaker 2: when they got the situations where they could they were
Speaker 2: blowing people out and they could play other people, they
Speaker 2: went ahead and did And did it cost them statistically, yes,
Speaker 2: But later on a year when they needed guys to
Speaker 2: make plays, guys were ready to make plays. And then
Speaker 2: when you go and look at the seventeen and eighteen teams,
Speaker 2: how good they were. You know why they were so
Speaker 2: good because they played in fifteen and sixteen when they
Speaker 2: were freshmen and sophomore and by the time they were
Speaker 2: juniors and seniors, they were ready for the big stage.
Speaker 2: And so it allowed Clinton to go on the big
Speaker 2: run that it went on for six years. And that's
Speaker 2: kind of what Davo's doing now with this team. And
Speaker 2: you know, this team has the potential to go far.
Speaker 2: I think, and and I like the makeup of this team.
Speaker 2: And you know, we we said that at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the year that this team had a chance to
Speaker 2: uh to be pretty good and Dad both thought they
Speaker 2: could be pretty good. And so far through three games,
Speaker 2: we're kind of seeing that in these last two weeks especially,
Speaker 2: And and go back to the Georgia game. And I
Speaker 2: know some Georgia or South Carolina fans r out there like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they got beat thirty four to three Georgia. But if
Speaker 2: you go back and watch that Georgia game, see an
Speaker 2: offensive line that didn't give up a single sack to
Speaker 2: one of the best defensive fronts of the country. And
Speaker 2: you saw a quarterback who at that time wasn't trusting
Speaker 2: in his line. And I think what you said. Difference
Speaker 2: in the last two weeks is Gary Riley has gone
Speaker 2: in there and said, listen, look at look at your
Speaker 2: offensive line. They're busting their butt. They you've got a
Speaker 2: perfect pocket, stay within the system, trust your offensive line,
Speaker 2: do your checkdowns, and you'll you'll find the open guys.
Speaker 2: And that's what we've seen the last couple of weeks
Speaker 2: out of this offense.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Peter Woods, who, look, his utilization was
Speaker 1: questioned by a lot of pundits early on playing him
Speaker 1: out on the edge, and I've heard you on your
Speaker 1: podcast and other forums talk about, you know, the odd
Speaker 1: fronts that we should expect Clemson to be playing this year,
Speaker 1: and certainly you're going to see that with Wes Goodwin's defense.
Speaker 1: How's his health right now? And do you expect a
Speaker 1: different type of utilization moving forward? Do you think you'll
Speaker 1: kick him inside a little more? Do you think they're
Speaker 1: comfortable playing him a little wider as they have been.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, first of all, I won't see
Speaker 2: if he plays. He's day to day. I'll be surprised
Speaker 2: if he plays this week because I think Clemson can play,
Speaker 2: can win this game without him this week. So I'll
Speaker 2: be surprised if we see him this week. Understanding the
Speaker 2: whole the way Dabo does things, Like last week, Kyler
Speaker 2: Brown was available to play, he dressed, but he didn't play, right,
Speaker 2: Peter Woods didn't even dress, Okay, So I think what
Speaker 2: you're gonna see is you're going to see this week,
Speaker 2: maybe Peter Wood's dresses but probably doesn't plays, just available
Speaker 2: in case they need them. I think that's the way
Speaker 2: the coaches want to go about it, kind of bring
Speaker 2: them back a little bit slow. You know, you don't
Speaker 2: want to mess around with knee injury, right, I mean, you
Speaker 2: want to make sure he's totally comfortable and get back
Speaker 2: out there on the field. So I'll be surprised if
Speaker 2: you see him this week. Now, I don't know one
Speaker 2: hundred certainty, but we'll see. But what that does, it's allowed.
Speaker 2: When you saw kay deanhoff you saw aj Hoffler, you
Speaker 2: saw Jaheen Lawson. All three of those guys got to
Speaker 2: play and they played well, and Davilo talked about that
Speaker 2: and they got valuable, valuable snaps. And so now when
Speaker 2: Peter Woods this does come back, you can do different
Speaker 2: things with him and you don't necessarily have to play
Speaker 2: him at defensive end all the time. Now maybe you
Speaker 2: can move him in sometimes. Ye uh, So that there's
Speaker 2: different ways they can use him when they when they
Speaker 2: get back, when he gets back to full strength and
Speaker 2: they use him. But you know, they really like what
Speaker 2: they see now those young defensive ends and what they
Speaker 2: can do, and you know the experience they definitely need
Speaker 2: and they're getting valuable game rep. And that's what it's
Speaker 2: all about, my friends.
Speaker 1: Nothing like depth, and we can build it as they are.
Speaker 1: Why building early leads and early in the season. By
Speaker 1: doing that, it comes in great handy coming down the stretch.
Speaker 1: As you know. Will Vanervoor, Clemson Insider quick thoughts on Stanford.
Speaker 1: What should we expect? This is unusual matchup and usual
Speaker 1: times in the ACC. What's Stanford all about? Just a
Speaker 1: quick glimpse at Clemson's opponent on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, they're well coached football team. If you go
Speaker 2: and watch them, you see exactly what Dabo's talking about.
Speaker 2: Troy Taylor's day coach there, He's done a great job
Speaker 2: and they were a well coached team with gig Shaw
Speaker 2: as well, right if you were heard with those teams.
Speaker 2: I mean, so now they've lacked talent and that's where
Speaker 2: the issue is. But what you saw last week we
Speaker 2: get Syracuse is if you don't play sound football and
Speaker 2: you don't do what you got to do on your
Speaker 2: side of it, they're very capable of beating you because
Speaker 2: they're not going to beat themselves for the most part.
Speaker 2: So Clinton's gonna have to play very good. They've got
Speaker 2: to play at a high level. You know, when I
Speaker 2: look at this team that defensively, they're gonna stop the run,
Speaker 2: They're gonna make the one dimensional. So they're gonna want
Speaker 2: they're gonna want to take Phil MafA out of the game.
Speaker 2: They held Syracuse to twenty six yards rushing last week. Now,
Speaker 2: I think Clemson can run the football better than Syracuse.
Speaker 2: Syracuse hasn't run the ball that well all season anyway,
Speaker 2: So I think Clemson can probably run the football a
Speaker 2: little bit more. But the game plan is gonna be
Speaker 2: to eliminate Phil MafA and not have him beat them.
Speaker 2: So they're gonna want to put it in the hands
Speaker 2: of kay Klebnick and those wide receivers and so, as
Speaker 2: Dabo said, they got to make plays. They're gonna have
Speaker 2: opportunities on the outside that make some plays, and so
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to do that. And then on the
Speaker 2: other side, if you flip it, you know Ashton Daniels,
Speaker 2: he's a running quarterback. He's a guy that likes to
Speaker 2: get out on the edges. Kind of spread him out
Speaker 2: because he's not a tall guy. He's only six two
Speaker 2: to fifteen, But you know, he's a guy that he's
Speaker 2: very athletic. He can move around in the pocket, he
Speaker 2: can run the football a long way, he's got good speed.
Speaker 2: So they're gonna have to figure out ways not to
Speaker 2: make maybe contain their rush lanes and passing situations and
Speaker 2: also kind of set the edge in running situations because
Speaker 2: they're gonna run a lot of RPOs with him and
Speaker 2: things like that. So you know he's going to be
Speaker 2: a challenge. And they got this wide receiver named Elick
Speaker 2: a miner and maybe saying his name the last name
Speaker 2: for but six, two, two ten. This guy can go
Speaker 2: up and just get the ball at any point. If
Speaker 2: you go watch any sports center. In the last two years,
Speaker 2: he's making some unbelievable athletic catch. Last year he went
Speaker 2: off on Notre Dame. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 2: remember that, but he went off on them last year
Speaker 2: and last week had a great game as well. And
Speaker 2: so he's a very dynamic wide receiver if he did
Speaker 2: puns of troubles. They got a couple of other guys too,
Speaker 2: So they're a good football team that you know a
Speaker 2: lot of people weren't predicting much out of them, but
Speaker 2: understand who their coach is, understand his background. Way they're
Speaker 2: going to play football, and so they're going to come
Speaker 2: in here and you know they're going to hope to
Speaker 2: get a win and As I mentioned about the Ashton
Speaker 2: Daniels quarterback, he's from Atlanta, so he's gonna have a
Speaker 2: huge family here as his dad actually played for the
Speaker 2: Georgia Bulldogs and played against Clemson back in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: And so they're gonna have a big contingency here. Puntson
Speaker 2: a Stanford fans. So you know, I'm not saying there's
Speaker 2: going to be four or five thousand, but you know
Speaker 2: they'll be represented. I think a little bit. It's going
Speaker 2: to be cool to see a team from the West Coast.
Speaker 2: Only the second time, guys, in the history of Death Valley,
Speaker 2: that a team from the West Coast is coming to Clemson.
Speaker 2: The last time it happened was Long Beach State back
Speaker 2: in nineteen.
Speaker 1: Ninety I was at that game. Okay, so here's a
Speaker 1: fun fact. You bring up Long Beach State. That was
Speaker 1: a rain game. I remember it well. That was my
Speaker 1: first ever trip to Death Valley and my good friend
Speaker 1: Rob Bartholemey who lived in our neighborhood. His dad Bob
Speaker 1: took us loaded up in the Dodge caravan with the
Speaker 1: wood grain paint stripe on the side. That was my
Speaker 1: first trip down there. I can't believe you just mentioned
Speaker 1: that that brought back memories and who was.
Speaker 2: The head coach if you remember for them?
Speaker 1: Uh for long but oh it was Uh what's George Allen?
Speaker 2: George George Allen Pro Football Hall of Fame coach of
Speaker 2: the Washington Redskins and also with the defensive coordinator doing
Speaker 2: those great years with the Rams, had the fabulous four.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, memories. It was raining that day, right, I
Speaker 1: distinctly remember a rainstorm that day, So.
Speaker 2: That's good for you to remember. You probably are right.
Speaker 2: I can't remember that so many of these, but I
Speaker 2: wasn't there that day. Okay, I'm gonna lend it to
Speaker 2: you on that one. My friend I went to Long
Speaker 2: Beach State.
Speaker 1: I went to Long Beach State versus Clemson, and will
Speaker 1: Van DeVore didn't print the T shirts. Right now, Falcos
Speaker 1: Falco's got a Steelers question for you. Go ahead, Trey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I mostly just want to check your poults
Speaker 3: on this team. You know, you're one of the more
Speaker 3: grounded kind of people to cover this team obviously three
Speaker 3: and zero, But how are you feeling about the offense
Speaker 3: right now? Especially with Justin Fields under center. I know
Speaker 3: we talked about earlier in the season, before it started.
Speaker 3: This would be Russ's job, and obviously he's dealing with
Speaker 3: calf injury. Do you foresee him coming back and stepping
Speaker 3: in and taking those reins away from Justin Do you
Speaker 3: ride the hot hand if you're Mike Tomlin and what
Speaker 3: is what does Russ add to this this offense? If anything,
Speaker 3: if he does come in and take over, well, I.
Speaker 2: Think, first of all, I think you do ride the
Speaker 2: hot hand right now, so they're going Justin Field's gonna
Speaker 2: play this week. I think if he wins and gets
Speaker 2: off to the flooridah start. I think even if Russell's back,
Speaker 2: and I think you know, Russell's got a calf injury. Generally, yeah,
Speaker 2: calf injury is gonna take about four weeks to heal,
Speaker 2: and so I'm expecting by week five as Russe will
Speaker 2: really be ready to play and go, and so that'll
Speaker 2: be the game against Dallas. So you know, I think
Speaker 2: probably Justin Fields if they win this week against the Colts,
Speaker 2: Justin Fields definitely will start that game against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I think if he continues to play like he's doing,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't see a problem with it. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's making good decisions. He's not he's not putting the
Speaker 2: ball in harm's way. I mean, even the interception last
Speaker 2: week that wasn't on him. His receiver, you know, popped
Speaker 2: the ball up in the air. The ball was in
Speaker 2: his hands. I was on justin field. His progressions have
Speaker 2: been really good. I think he's made good throws when
Speaker 2: he makes them. A touchdown pass to Austin was was
Speaker 2: a thing of beauty, the way he set it up
Speaker 2: and having pulled the safety off and was able to
Speaker 2: get the ball there. I mean, you know, I think
Speaker 2: he's in a different place that he does add an
Speaker 2: element with his legs, and I think that it's helped
Speaker 2: the Steelers in a couple occasions already this year. I
Speaker 2: don't know if Russell Wilson can make those plays right now,
Speaker 2: especially with the cap injury. I doubt he can, so
Speaker 2: I think that's the definite element. But what Wilson brings
Speaker 2: is the more of a passing attack that I think
Speaker 2: he can get the ball out quicker and probably be
Speaker 2: a little more decisive, even though I saw just and
Speaker 2: get more decisive against the Chargers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's grown.
Speaker 2: He had to because he had to do it. If
Speaker 2: he didn't, they would have been problems because they're so
Speaker 2: good on the defensive side of the ball. But he
Speaker 2: wasn't that decisive in the other two games. So I
Speaker 2: think with just with Russell Wilson, you get a more
Speaker 2: decisive passer who's going to put the ball where it
Speaker 2: needs to be and go right where it needs to be.
Speaker 2: And that's the difference you get with an experience quarterlick
Speaker 2: like Russell Wilson over Justin Fields. But hey, if Justin
Speaker 2: Key's playing like he's doing, he's gonna gain confidence. And
Speaker 2: just like we're seeing with Kate Clubnick at Clemson, you
Speaker 2: know that confidence is going to continue to grow and
Speaker 2: he's going to get better and better. I can't complain
Speaker 2: with the way he's played to this point. To be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I'm not a Justin Fields fans. I
Speaker 2: told you guys that, but he's playing well. He's a
Speaker 2: Steelers quarterback. I'm a huge Steelers fan, so I'm supporting
Speaker 2: them obviously, and I'll tell you that though. When you've
Speaker 2: got a defense that good, and I forget and they
Speaker 2: might be the best defense Steelers defense I've ever seen,
Speaker 2: and that's counting. That's counting. The ones from two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight, nine and ten and twelve range with Torod
Speaker 2: Palamalo and those guys. This defense is like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a defense is good in the NFL
Speaker 2: in years. I'm talking like it's been decades probably since
Speaker 2: we've seen a defense is good. They potentially have a
Speaker 2: chance to be as good as any defense in the
Speaker 2: history of this league.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy that it feels like there's playmakers on
Speaker 3: every level of that defense, and not only on every level,
Speaker 3: but even the depth that they have back there.
Speaker 1: It feels like whoever.
Speaker 3: Comes in and fills that void if somebody goes down
Speaker 3: or needs a rest, that defense doesn't really drop in quality. Now,
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the three and oh? Is this a
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the way to word this, like,
Speaker 3: is this should we be excited that they're three and oh?
Speaker 3: Or is this one of those where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: hold on, pump the Brakes, look at the people that
Speaker 3: they look at the teams that they've played, barring the Chargers,
Speaker 3: which going into this game, this last game, the Chargers,
Speaker 3: I think we're number one or number two defense in
Speaker 3: the league, and we were able to put up twenty
Speaker 3: points on them. But how do you feel about the
Speaker 3: outlook of this team going forward from what you've seen
Speaker 3: so far with this three? And oh, is this something
Speaker 3: in this sustainable? Not that they're going to win every
Speaker 3: single game, but do you see this being a Steelers
Speaker 3: team that could be a contender at least in the playoffs?
Speaker 2: Also as a Chargers team that led the NFL and
Speaker 2: rushing after a yeah three averaging about eight yards of carry,
Speaker 2: Steelers held them over two yards of carries. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: you know, and so yeah on both sides and the like.
Speaker 2: You said that they've been very good defensively. Now, I
Speaker 2: think Bosa got hurt the second game, second player the
Speaker 2: sea of the game, but he didn't play much last
Speaker 2: week either, So you can't say most is the reason
Speaker 2: why their defense has been so good. I think it's
Speaker 2: more been what Jalen Ramsley in that back end has
Speaker 2: been doing to people. So you know, I think they're
Speaker 2: I think you still pump the brakes because it's only
Speaker 2: week three. I'm a blue big believer that you know
Speaker 2: who your team is after week five. I think that
Speaker 2: fifth game is generally tells you who your team is.
Speaker 2: So the Steelers got the Colts this week and they
Speaker 2: host the Cowboys after that. If they win those two
Speaker 2: games and they're five and zero after that game, that
Speaker 2: I think you really start looking at this Pittsburgh team
Speaker 2: as a serious contender in the NFL this year, definitely
Speaker 2: in the AFC because that defense, if they continue to
Speaker 2: play at the level they're playing, that that defense gives
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh a chance to win no matter who they're playing. Wait,
Speaker 2: I don't think that there's not a There's not an
Speaker 2: offense in the NFL that they can't stop, and that
Speaker 2: includes Patrick Mahomes. So you know, I think you know
Speaker 2: with the way t J. Watt, if anybody watched the Steelers,
Speaker 2: that that guy's on a mission. He's got a point
Speaker 2: to prove. He is a game wrecker. He doesn't have
Speaker 2: to get sacks to be a game wrecker. He's doing
Speaker 2: it in all other pastes and we watch him play.
Speaker 2: He's all over the field.
Speaker 1: It's taking it personal. With Miles Garret getting the flowers
Speaker 1: last year. We'll see what happens the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: I will Van der Voart before we let you go.
Speaker 1: I do hear on your podcast believe in Clemson football.
Speaker 1: I think I heard correct that you're going to two
Speaker 1: Steelers games this year? Is that right?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to? Three three two? Yeah. I
Speaker 2: went to the Atlanta game to start the season, and
Speaker 2: I flew out the denser and went to the Denver
Speaker 2: game because Clinton was off that week, I was able
Speaker 2: to That's right.
Speaker 1: So, oh you go, how was that that? That must
Speaker 1: have been that must have been cool as hell?
Speaker 2: Oh that was that was really cool? And about man,
Speaker 2: there's about thirty thousand so always the Denver fans. He said,
Speaker 2: there weren't as many Steeler fans as there normally is,
Speaker 2: which the Steelers, and I was like, my goodness because
Speaker 2: there was a ton of us. But uh, but then
Speaker 2: I'm also going to go when Crimson plays Pitt and
Speaker 2: weekend the Steelers are hosting the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: So I'll be going to that game the next day.
Speaker 1: The dream season for Will vandervolt so far as man,
Speaker 1: we'll see you down there.
Speaker 2: Let's make it three and there you go.
Speaker 1: We'll see you down to Tigertown coming up. Will Van
Speaker 1: Dervoord will be covering that game this weekend between Clemson
Speaker 1: and Stanford for the Clemson Insider and don't forget to
Speaker 1: catch his podcast, Believe in Clemson Football, Will You're the
Speaker 1: best man?
Speaker 2: John? Thanks, but I appreciate you.