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or any of the companies they represent. Now, today we
welcome to the show Robin Jelinik, who is the channeler
of Athena, and in our channeling session, we discuss what
the spirit realm wants humanity to know right now on
why everything is happening, what's going to happen next, and
how we can deal with the world that we're living
in today. So let's dive in. I like to welcome
back to the show returning champion Robin jell Kaiden.
Speaker 2: Robin, Hi, Alex, nice to be here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much for coming back. My dear,
it's been a it's been a little bit since you've
been on the show, but when you first came on
it kind of opened the floodgates a bit for you back.
But I've always loved Athena. I love I love the
Athena group and what their messages and what they're saying,
and I think we're needing more than ever these kind
of messages of hope and and and to put people's
fears at rest a little, because there seems to be
a lot of fears going on. But before we jump
into Athena, I wanted to ask you what have your
views on humanity shifted since you started channeling, because you
haven't been channeling all your life, as maybe I've seen
the other episodes have said, No, Yeah, What.
Speaker 2: I've really noticed and what I'm really happy about, and
I think a lot of other people are probably noticing
it too, is a real allowing of people to be
where they are and understanding that. You know, people's behavior
or the way that they present themselves in the world
oftentimes is related to their chakras or the amount of
openness that they have to the light energy that's available
to them, So they would either be receiving it or
denying it based upon the type of frequency that they
were holding. And you know, I've just come to understand
that there's just a path or a journey that everybody's on,
and experiences need to be had in one way or
another in order to move along that journey, and so
I've become really allowing and less judgmental really of people's
behavior or where they happen to be, and not in
a place of I'm further ahead than you, or I
know something that you don't know, just in an understanding,
and you know, awakening can happen like that. I mean,
it can be something that someone can go from a
very closed off state to being wide open and to
really you know, expanding in a direction that they're very
surprised by. So it doesn't really have anything to do
with time necessarily, But the more allowing that we are
to others and the more compassion that we offer, the
better they can see themselves and the quicker they can
move along that path.
Speaker 1: What's the most surprising thing that has come through from
a female that just kind of knocked you on your
butt and really deep changed you deeply.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, recently, I think I had email
to you about light language. That's something that I was
very surprised at. I've always done sign, I've done the
mood russ from the very beginning. I didn't really know
what they meant. They were applied in sessions at times,
and to myself, often to my own body when I
would do any sit time. You know, I'm forever surprised
at this is a changing process. You know, a lot
of people don't understand that channeling is, you know, the
same as becoming anything else in your life. If you
are a physician or a person like yourself, you're educating
and you're expanding, and you're learning new ways to apply yourself,
and channeling is a lot like that. You cannot really
receive higher level information until you can really trust and believe,
and so you have to expand yourself in that direction,
and very naturally things start to unfold. So there have
been lots of surprises along the way. You can't elicit
a spiritual experience by demanding it, but you get surprised
along the way by some really nice, magical experiences that
I've had in sessions with people, especially during Kundlini activations,
where we've both been electrocuted or felt the electrical charges
go through us. And so there's been lots of very magical, surprising,
exciting things that happen even in a channel's life. But
to think that it's just going to arrive and that
you're going to have play no part in it really
wouldn't be accurate. There's definitely a belief in you that
starts to build as you do this work, and the
more that that build, the more that you're offered in
that direction.
Speaker 1: One of the things I love about doing this show
is when I speak channels or psychic mediums, people who
have extraordinary abilities or I've opened themselves up to the
ability to receive this kind of information. Many people who
watch these shows, watch the content, don't understand that you
are still a human being going through a human experience
just because you have a direct phone, let's say, a
direct line to the other side where you could ask
questions and they can guide you and deep information, profound
information comes through. It's the equivalent of me calling up
a guru on the phone and having it. Doesn't mean
that I am now the Guru, or I am now enlightened,
or I am now perfectly and not afraid of anything
because I have this information. You still have the processes
as a human, So can you explain to people how
you deal with the world as a human being, but
while still having this extra ordinary access to the other side.
Speaker 2: You know one thing I'm really proud about, and I
don't know whether to take credit for it for myself
or from the divinity aspect of myself is I'm really
not attached to it. I really don't find myself to
know anything or be better than or higher than anyone else.
I know that I am personally not the one that's
giving the information that's coming through, and therefore I don't
attach to it or claim that I have something maybe
that somebody else doesn't have. I really believe that this
is something that everyone can do, and that through allowing
more light into your field, you know your chakras really
do hold the keys to enlightenment, and enlightenment is more
light allowed into your field, and you're the one that
does that. Based upon how you feel about yourself and
your life experience, what kind of judgment condemnations do you
hold in regard to your free will choice to pick
and choose how you feel. Nobody can do that for you,
and no one should condemn you for it because they've
not lived the life that you've lived. And so I
think one of the most magical and surprising things for
me in this process is that I can be totally human,
and that I can make mistakes, and that I can
do things that maybe I'm not satisfied with and then
find myself just able to let go of them and
accept myself in the way that I felt in knowing
what it is to be human. And I think I
really portray that in the sessions that I have with people,
and it gives them hope, It gives them belief in
themselves that they don't need to be a supernatural perfect
person that loves everything and does everything right. They don't
have to do sit time, day and night if they
don't like it. So I offer them freedom. I offer
them the understanding that we are not expected to be perfect.
We are experiencers, and we are to experience not just
based upon the life that we're in, but upon that
lineage and that history of all the lives that we've
ever lived, our contributing factors to the way that we
draw comcute conclusions in our life.
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned enlightenment. That is a kind of charged
idea nowadays, because enlightenment we you know, and you the
first time I ever heard the term enlightenment was the
Buddha that he found under the under the tree and
the Bundy tree, and he was able to find enlightenment.
And but a lot of people believe that enlightenment is
the end goal and then once you reach it, you're done.
Everything is all good and it's all golden. And but
the Buddha and Christ and many of the masters found
the quote unquote enlightenment within their lives but still lived years.
The Buddha lived a long time after he found enlightenment.
In your understanding from your channeling and your own spiritual path,
do you believe that these enlightened beings while still on
Earth are continuously growing even after they read Enlightenment because
they still are going through human experience regardless of the.
Speaker 2: Spiritual Absolutely, they're they're having feelings, they're having emotions, they're
emitting a frequency based upon what they're experiencing. They're just
not attaching to it. They've just reached a lonelevel of
perception and understanding that they are not the human that
a lot of people think that they are, and in
that perception, they're able to very quickly release or let
go of and non attached to things that are felt.
So it's not that you're going to stop feeling or
that you're never going to have a preference. Somebody does
something I don't like, I'm going to have a feeling
I don't like that.
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Speaker 2: But now what happens is it leaves the center or
the chakra very quickly because the frequency that you're holding
in the love of yourself just allows your source energy
to enter you. So if you were to describe consciousness
as divine, that's what it is. So when I'm conscious,
when I'm awake, I am paired with my divine partner,
and that flow of that current is going through my
energy centers and it's allowing me to not attach. It's
allowing the dissipation of the energy that I was holding
to create with because that's all an emotion is. It's
not right or wrong, it's not good or bad. It's
a frequency I'm holding in what I prefer. That's how
I'm to look at it. And so when I go
to the observation of myself, I'm actually becoming the divine
aspect of myself, which is creating a flow or a
current that's moving through my energy centers, assisting me in
releasing emotions that are of a lower tone. Now, if
I move to an unconscious state, I'm miserable. I'm suffering.
That person over there just caused me to feel that way.
That person at work is aggravating me, and I'm blaming
something outside of myself. My divinity aspect will expand my
negativity and let me know. No one creates in your
experience except for you. If you continue to draw that conclusion,
I will continue to mirror you experiences that are dissatisfying
to alert you to the way that you're creating in
your experience. So there's a very clean, clear program that's
going on, and you have an assistive tool, which is
your consciousness, which is being awake and aware. That's why
observation is so important in spiritual development.
Speaker 1: Now, question, I don't think I've ever asked, but of
a channel, and I wanted to hear this from you.
A lot of people believe that when you're a channel
or even a psychic medium, that is their spiritual practice.
That thing that they do, the channeling or the being
a psychic or being a medium is the spiritual practice.
What is if there is any spiritual practice that you
do that when you're not in channel or mode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, one thing I practice on a daily basis
is the observation of myself, especially if I can't go
to sleep at night. Normally there'll be some kind of
a cause. I'm blaming a lot. I'm worrying about my son,
my husband's snoring, you're making noise or something going on
that's aggravating me, so I can't go to sleep. And
then I moved to observing the feeling, and as soon
as I do that, I find myself asleep because there
is no reason for an outside cause. There's only an
inside cause that sometimes before you go to sleep, that's
a good opportunity to be reached or to be signaled
in how you're creating. And so that's oftentimes where people
find themselves feeling a lot of things. But the problem
is they blame the outside thing. They start to believe
in a cause, and therefore they expand it and they
find themselves awake all night instead of able to go
to sleep. So I kind of lost track there. If
you could re ask me that question again of the
direction I was having.
Speaker 1: What is your spiritual practice other than.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, yeah, you know, I would tell you. One
of the things that I do love about becoming a
channel is it kind of has become my spiritual practice.
I'm not searching anymore. I'm not seeking anymore. But really,
anyone on a spiritual path will reach that point or place,
and that's freedom. That's really what free will is. I
have a right to feel. I get to choose in
any given situation or circumstance, the emotion or the frequency
that I send out in regard to it to create
a preferred reality for myself. And so once you get
that understanding, what are you chasing after when you open
your energy centers? They are the portals that are connected
to the wisdom and the knowledge of the universe. So
I can really pose a question to myself and get
a very satisfying answer just like that. It'll just come
right in, and along with that will my guidance, and
we'll kick in and I'll just feel this knowingness. I'll
just feel this trust and this belief, and I won't
really feel like I need to go any further with that. So, yes,
you will fall away from outside influences. You won't feel
as though you need There might be some things like
when the light language came. I was interested in reading
a couple of books about people who also had that
occur in their experience just to kind of reaffirm what
I was going through. So there will be some of
that that I will do. There was such a huge
amount of studying that went on for nearly thirty five
or forty years prior to this experience ever coming to
me that I would not say was wasted. I think
it's really good to have a good base or understanding
of broad concepts that have to do with spirituality. It
makes this process, especially working with clients, better for you
to do that. But there is nothing required. There's nothing
that a person has to do to be connected. The
connecting point is the frequency of love, and you have
to learn to love yourself in whatever way you are.
You have to accept yourself, and when you do that,
the divine has no problem with you at all. It's
been there all along, at the frequency of unconditional love,
and so the minute that you moved to that frequency,
it has access to you. Just like that.
Speaker 1: Before we continue to have to send love to your
snoring husband.
Speaker 2: Love to get a wedge pillow, Alex, I get him
a wedge pillow. That's what came to me the next morning,
after I stopped blaming my frustration on him. Then the
solution came. This is what happens, you know, when you
stop blaming something outside for how you feel, the universe
has the opportunity to deliver you a solution which it
holds the moment that you feel whatever it is that
you don't like.
Speaker 1: Well, we've tried the wedge pillow, my dear. It did
not work for me, but I'm so glad it worked
for you and your husband. We have other solutions the
other besides the kicking kicking me in the middle of
the night, that that works as well. Apparently, yeah, it does.
Speaker 2: Roll it over, roll it over.
Speaker 1: So can you tell people how you what is your
process for channeling what you do? You are a trans
channel if I'm saying you're a transition. You go into
a trance and you don't remember much or a little
bit here and there, like a dream life.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I don't have any leg time. I
can go in and out like that, and they're always
ever present, especially if I'm thinking about them. So I
didn't really understand that in the beginning that it was
happening all the time, and so once it was explained
to me that if you're not thinking about it, so
whenever I think about a topic. I get an answer.
Whenever someone's struggling with a problem in my family, then
I get a channeled response or a broadcast that I
might use on my podcast or on my YouTube. And
so it's a thought provoked and I think, honestly, the
universe is thought provoked. That's what it is. It wants
to satisfy, it wants to answer questions that people are asking.
And I think oftentimes people that become channelers are good
question askers, which I was. I always from the time
I was a little child, I remember laying in bed thinking,
what is this all about? I'm going to know who
I am when I'm not here anymore. So I was
always inquiring or wondering. Are the types of things that
draw the universe closer to you? And you have to
understand that the minute you ask, there is a solution.
There is an answer that is waiting to arrive to you.
But depending on the frequency that you're holding of whether
it can actually flow through you or you can receive it.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful, all right, So let's bring in the Athena group.
Speaker 2: Okay, we are excited to move with you today. It
has been a while. Yeah, we want you to know
that the channeling of the light language is a little
bit different than the channeling of us. When Rount Robin
is channeling the Athena group or what you would call
the Athena group, there is a collective of consciousnesses that
she is channeling through myself Athena. I am the main
speaker of the house, you would call me. Yeah. And
so what actually happens is she steps aside and I
come forward. So she doesn't have to worry at all
about what's going to be exchanged or what is going
to be said. But in the life language, it involves
her trust, it involves her believability, and it is an
ever expanding process and it is one that is going
to be coming to the plane. It is one that
humans are going to use or actually become activated in.
Let's is that It's why it is entering through our
teachings at this time. Yeah. So when the light language comes,
what happens to Robin is she as Robin knows, she
has a knowingness of what exactly is being said, but
she has no idea how she could possibly know because
the language that is flowing through her sounds like gibberish.
And so that is like a training process. It's like
a learning process. It is using the light language or
that exchange that comes through that is not words, but
there is a trust, a knowing, a believability, and this
is what every human is going to have to move to.
They're going to start to understand or to know exactly
what it is that another human is intending to communicate
to them, and then they will have to believe it,
won't they They will have to trust in it, and
that will expand this ability to be bigger and bigger.
So what's actually going to happen, alex is very exciting
because things like your mainstream news or the gibberish or
the nonsense we would call it that people are generally
speaking about is going to evaporate. Communication is going to
become what it is meant to be. It's going to
have meaning, it's going to have truth. It's going to
be something that people want to hear. It's going to
be an exchange between people that is welcomed. And why
is it welcomed Because to let they only exists at
a higher frequency, It does not exist in the lower
tone emotions of the third density of where most humans
are presently occupying on Earth. And so as you rise
up into the fourth and fifth density, you find yourself
in a place where the frequency is quite high. It
is high like what your source would communicate with. And
so the emotions that one chooses and picks are of
a higher frequency. So what a human will first notice
is something that would normally move them to jealousy, move
them to anger, move them to frustration. As they go
to get that emotion, they will find that it is
not located at the frequency or the level of consciousness
that they are now holding. And so the choices will
be happiness, joy, love, expectation, and so therefore the exchanges
that those will have will be based around those types
of feelings. That will be the new way or the
new Earth emerging, you see. And so little by little
the planet is going to improve, the quality of exchanges
is going to be higher. People are not going to
feel offense because offensive emotions do not resonate at the
higher realms.
Speaker 1: What is your perceived current state of humans of humanity's evolution?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we are glad that you asked that question,
because as you know, we always come across as a
hopeful group, as a positive group, and we would say
that we are excited for humanity and that we do
not look at anything as being disaster, that everything is
in a wave pattern. All of you humans think that
this is a special time. In some sense, it is
a special time, but it is not the only time.
This wave in humanity, this rise and fall, is something
that has eternally happened and going to happen. But what
is happening this time is the wave is reaching a
new high or a new level. So it is an
evolutionary process, isn't it. We are coming into a time
where we are starting to emerge or experience something that
has never been experienced before. And that is what we
would say is the difference or the main factor in
the rise in consciousness that is occurring at this time.
So there have been many rises and many falls throughout history.
You would know that by looking back on your history,
But this time you have risen to a level or
a height that has not been reached in prior existences.
Speaker 1: What do you see from your perspective as the greatest
challenge humanity is facing now?
Speaker 2: Well, what we see is that anytime that a human
is looking at something in dread or in worry or
in concern, you are adding to that frequency. And so
a lot of people will say, well, you can't look
at war and think that it is not a bad thing.
But if you continue to look at things as being
bad things, you are a contributor to them, aren't you.
You are one that is actually expanding the very thing
that you are saying that you do not want to
see on the earth. But if you looked at everything
in your life and in the world's life as a
creative thing, as an evolutionary thing, as an expansive thing,
as a native thing, then you would start to gain
the understanding that this is how evolution occurs, this is
how the expansion into greater eras actually happens. And so
it is needed. Everything in your life is needed. We'll
give you a fun little example. A little while ago,
Robin went to visit a chiropractor. She had a little
trouble with her hip was bothering her, and when he
went to make his adjustment, he decided to do something
in one of her ribs. He came down on her
arm in an awkward position, and he impinged her shoulder
moved it out of position. Yeah, she went into a
period of six weeks of not being able to sleep
at night, being very miserable. Had no idea that the
shoulder could cause you so much pain. And as this
went on and on, Robin is not much of a
doctor goer, but the pain was at a height or
level that she could not ignore it. So she went
to the doctor and the doctors did an x ray
and looked her over and confirmed that her shoulder had
been impinged and took the x ray. A couple of
weeks later, he called her up and he said that
he did not see any major damage to her shoulder,
that she would probably need an MRI, but one thing
he wanted to bring to her attention was a deem
mineralization of the bone. Yeah, And when she got that information,
she realized why her shoulder had been impinged. She would
never go to the doctor, she would never bother looking
for a problem. But she was led in unknowingly through
this process through the universe, and she was alerted to
some bone loss. She was alerted to something that she
actually needed to do something about. You see, and this
is what we want to tell you. Did that seem
like a good thing when her shoulder got umpinged. No
it did not. But as it unraveled, As it unfolded,
it revealed to her something that was of a great
value or was needed. You see, And this is how
we would refer to the rise and consciousness. It is
not always going to feel like a good thing. It's
not always going to feel like something that is preferred.
But as it unfolds, we promise you that it is
the way of the universe, that there will be a
solution that is derived from the suffering that will grant
humans great access to higher and better ways of living.
Speaker 1: Are there energetic shifts occurring on Earth that we may
not be aware of right now?
Speaker 2: Absolutely there are. You have a universe out there that
much of it you are not aware of, and those
energetic shifts are affecting the universal part or the galaxy
that you are a part of. And so yes, we
would tell you that there is great movement. There is
great amount of light flashes that are not occurring just
around your Earth, but in other galaxies as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, when you speak of other galaxies, can you go
deeper down? Are there other realities other than our own
human reality? Not just on the three dimensional level, but
on these other levels, I ask, because I'm curious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, there are. There are innumerable mounts of the
existences that are we would say comparable or have a
likeness to what you are presently living.
Speaker 1: What is How can each person best align with the
spiritual energies present at this moment in time.
Speaker 2: The best way that you can align is to live
an individual and sovereign happy life. The contribution that you
make to the whole and to yourself by creating a
universe around yourself in what you prefer, actually allows the
preferred universe that is already created by what everyone has
already felt, to start to arrive. So you become an
anchoring point. You become a very important vessel that is
able to attract in the new reality that is standing,
that is waiting to enter. And so the very best
thing that you can do is to live the best
life that you can. To not live in fear, to
not look for things to worry about, to not be
concerned about. Everything that you read or everything that you
contribute to your happiness is the essential, most creative tool
that you have in your toolbox.
Speaker 1: What is the biggest misconception people have about channeled messages
in general.
Speaker 2: We would say that what we tell people when we
are in session with them is to engage their guid system.
Everyone has one. If you feel as though something is
not of resonance, you get a feeling that something is
off or not connecting to you, then we say turn
the dial off. Yeah, then move to some other informational
output that you do get that connective or resonant feeling.
With one feels uncomfortable, one feels any type of stress
in their body, this would be their guidance system. Kicking
in and engaging. Everyone has it. Everyone has the ability
to know truth. And oftentimes when we are in exchange
with someone, whether we use light language or whether we
are channeling ourselves, we will check in with them time
to time to make sure that they are feeling resonant
and they are.
Speaker 1: You see, how do you experience or understand time compared
to how we do.
Speaker 2: We would explain time as again something not existing, something
that a human use is to record or to look
back on or to remember on. Let's use that term.
But in the aka or what you would call the
mastermind or the universal mind, everything exists, everything is accessible,
and everything is still in the now moment, or what
you would call perceived as right now or reality. When
it is looked upon, you see, and so as a
human looks upon something, they look at it as going
back or going forward, where we would look upon something
as all being now or being present or available.
Speaker 1: Do you understand you were mentioning about earlier about how
when you focus on something it expands. How important is
it to be aware of what kind of media we
are consuming, what kind of ideas or images or videos
or movies or books or anything that news that we're consuming.
How important is it to be aware of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is to observe yourself in your emotion. Robin's husband,
for example, as a great interest person in history or
historic events, he can watch the movies on the Holocaust
and different types of warring, and he will have no
emotive value in regard to them. He is just interested
absorbing the information and is very satisfied, actually feels good
in getting it. Where Robin, on the other hand, moves
into an emotional state. She can feel the people. She's
upset by it, disturbed by it, and for her we
say turn off the dial. Yeah. So for each human
it is individualistic based upon probably their life experience or
what is within them that is causing them to have
the reaction that they are having. And so you are
to honor that and pay attention at all times when
you apply your focus. Are you observing in consciousness? And
that would mean I'm not emoting, I'm awake, I'm aware,
I'm not creating in a feeling that I have no
awareness of. And if I become unconscious, I become sad,
I become disturbed, I become fearful, or start to experience
some type of a judgment perhaps on those that contributed
to what it is I'm seeing. Then I'm moving into
an unconscious state, but it is still an attractive state.
It's one that I'm creating within my experience. And then
what we would recommend to those people that you do
not engage in that activity. Anytime that you apply your
focus to something where you don't feel good, you are
generating a frequency to the universe that you would like
more of it.
Speaker 1: You see the concept of the acashic field or the
quantum field or g energy or life force. It doesn't
seem to have a negative or positive charge. It just
is like the ocean. The ocean just is. It could
be very destructive, it could be very creative. All in
the same thing. Nature is very constructive, very destructive, and
very creative at the same time. What do you tell
people or can you explain or go deeper into the
concept of that there are universal forces that just are
and don't have a negative or positive charge, that we
are the ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, verse holds the same concept of right and wrong,
good and bad. But the frequency that is held by
either the individual or by the race determines whether that
energy is lifted or transmuted, or whether it's actually expanded
or pushed into a bigger or worse area. Yeah, and so.
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Speaker 2: You, as a human holding a very high frequency, are
becoming a transmuter of energy. So even being in the
presence of those in the lower frequency, you would begin
to digest and to lift and to transmute perhaps the
negativity or the lower tone frequencies that they are holding.
So it is one of the reasons that you have
the light workers that you have, or the anchors in
place that are actually expanding in consciousness and their frequency
is rising. So in their presence. Even as they are
interacting in the world, they are transmuting energy they are beginning.
So the universe simply based upon where it is located
or the frequency that it is emanating from as it
encounters things, it is able to transmute the energy or
what it is looking at or what is experiencing to
its own frequency. It can actually lift the frequency and
then benefit from it. So it does not look at
it as neither good or bad. Do you understand I do?
Speaker 1: I do. Do The choices of an individual effect that
collective more than we realize.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the power that one has in alignment is immense.
It is massive. It is something that is so importantly creative.
A higher frequency is Robin is looking at the pac
Man game gobbling up the lower frequency. Yeah, but the
ability the expansion. You have to understand that a frequency
in a higher tone has the ability to emanate out
or to expand and engulf.
Speaker 1: Do you understand, So, what role does compassion play in
transforming the collective consciousness?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Robin was talking about. In the beginning.
Humans start to move to compassion when they understand that
every single thing and being has emanated from one thing
which is a source of love, and so based upon
its life experience or its ancestry or what it has
actually gone through is what has distorted it or disconnected it,
or disallowed the flow of it from entering them. And
so when one moves into observation and understanding, through that
enlightenment more light coming into their field process, they start
to begin to understand that these are not bad people,
These are not wrong people. These are people who have
suffered in their experience. And so the more that you
can view someone from the light and emanate to them
a frequency of love based upon knowingness of where they
actually come from, even if they are not there at
that present time. Remember what we said, the engulfment or
the ability to gobble up negativity or the frequency that
is lower when you are in its presence, can actually occur.
If you move to any type of judgment or condemnation
about another, then you are actually not a transmuter of
the negativity that you are presented with. So just by
you having this knowingness and projecting this type of understanding
and love and compassion towards someone, they can actually be
engulfed by it.
Speaker 1: You see, how do you suggest, well, first, of all,
what do you see for humanity in their future coming
in the next year, five years, ten years, Because there
is a lot of fear around all these changes that
are happening around the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you were to understand that when a
human feels fear, it's because they are going against a
universe that they have already created. So if you feel
fear alex in your own life, it's not because you
have something to be fearful of. It's because you have
a universe that was created, maybe through some fear or
some worries, but there's a higher reality that's existing that's
trying to enter you, and therefore you're feeling the fear
or the energy that is denying its entry. And so
it is the same thing when people start fearing what's coming,
what's in the world, the state of the world, they
are actually feeling fear, not because that is a reality
that has to be They are feeling fear because a
reality that is already being is being denied.
Speaker 1: And so that is the core of all these fears
that people are having about what's coming.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, stop fearing it. What are you going to do
about it? Yeah, you are to surrender anyone heard the
words surrender. Surrender doesn't have a condition. Surrender doesn't have
any necessarily power over what's taking over. Surrender just knows.
Surrender just gives in. Surrender just allows, and in that allowing,
the new world just flows right in. You see.
Speaker 1: But a thing that surrendering is very scary for a
lot of people. It is something that we want as
a human. We want to control, We want to have
the illusion of safety. But surrender and allowing the universe
to guide us is an extremely scary thing to walk
into the unknown, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Yes? But it is important. Why does one move to control?
Because they're holding something within their energy centers that they
believe is out of their control. And so as you
hold this perception or belief, that is not a match,
by the way, to the unconditional love that your source
holds to you. Because the source is the creator. The
source is the one that is forming the circumstances, the situation,
and the things that will now flow to you. You,
as a human, are not the one that creates the experiences.
You are the one that feels the experience and sends
out an emission of frequency in a preferred way of
feeling and then the universe, in receiving that from you,
goes about creating an outcome or an opportunity or something
that it will flow to you that will satisfy you.
And not only is it using your present emission of
frequency in the life that you're in, it holds this
culmination or this all of you, this experiencer that has
had many lifetimes and is from many lineages. It has
all of this data on you. So when it does
flow something to you, or when the New Earth does come,
it's going to be so much better than what you
yourselves think that you are creating that you are trying
to influence. It's going to have all of everyone in
what they have desired and what they have hoped for.
And so there is no way that a human in
the small perception or life that they are presently in,
are able to cultivate even a remotely close idea of
what that might look like because you don't have all
the data, you don't have all the experience. You just
have the experience that you are presently in.
Speaker 1: You see, are there unseen helpers offering humanity more support
than we recognize?
Speaker 2: Absolutely they are. Yeah, And many of the unseen helpers
that you have, are you yourself in multiple exps Russians
throughout the universe and in this time that we are
talking about, in this rise in consciousness, you've heard of
the collapsing of timelines or the coming together of the
aspects of yourself at higher frequencies. And that's what's actually
going to happen, and it's going to be very natural,
and no one's going to get left behind. Eventually, that
frequency of the planet that is rising by all those
who have contributed to it, who have created this wave
that is now reaching a height that it has never
reached before, are going to be carried up with it.
And when they get to meet themselves in the higher
expression of themselves by the lower expressions that they experience
themselves in, they're going to be quite happy.
Speaker 1: So how does our free will interact with the guidance
that you or others on the other side are giving us,
Because if they're giving us guidance, how does that interact
with the free will of us doing whatever we want
to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you have an agreement as a human that
you will be the experiencer for the divinity aspect of
yourself and the divinity aspect of yourself will love you
uncondition in every frequency feeling that you send to it
in regard to your experience, and it knows by those frequencies,
those intricate emotions or emissions of hate, of distrust, of betrayal,
of anger, of jealousy, of happiness, of joy, all the
emotional scale, It know each one has an intricate frequency,
and so it knows by the receiving of that frequency
what it is that you prefer, by what you have sent,
and it knows that because of the frequency that it
resides at, it is able to do an adjustment or
a comparison. So the universe would be at a very
high frequency, and then it would maybe receive a lower
frequency tone from you, and it would determine by that
what it could create, what it would lift that frequency
too to create at its level an experience that would
be very satisfying to you. So you're to look at
emotion as a signal. You're to look at it as
not right and wrong, as not good and bad, as
a feeling that you send out, so that the universe
knows what it is that you prefer by what you
are feeling.
Speaker 1: What can you say to someone who doesn't who feels
disconnected from their higher self.
Speaker 2: One of the things that we teach in our activations
and a lot of the private sessions that we do
for people is that you are only disconnected by the
denial of light energy that you deny to yourself. So
anywhere where you are judging, anywhere where you are condemning,
anywhere where you are not happy with yourself, you are
actually denying the solution which comes through the light force,
energy or the divinity aspect consciousness that is trying to
flow through you. So, if you were to imagine it,
every moment in your life, there is a source part
of you trying to impress or bring or flow through
your energy centers, opportunity, situations, circumstances in regard to each
area of your life. It's trying to flow those into you,
and then as it comes up against you, it's going
to pick up your frequency. And So if you're holding
a lot of trauma, perhaps in the heart, a lot
of disappointment, betrayal, whatever it is that you might have
experienced in your experience, you've believed in an outside cause.
I had a nasty husband, terrible parent, somebody did this
to me. And though now you have expanded that negativity
quite large because you are not claiming it in the
im presence. The im presence means I am awake, I
am choosing the emotion that I feel, and I am
the only one that creates in my experience. That's the
im presence in case anyone wants to know. And so
once you grasp this, once you understand I am creating
with this energy, you don't have to change it. We're
not telling you to not feel something. We're not telling
you to get rid of an emotion that doesn't feel good.
We're telling you to claim it.
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Speaker 2: I am using my anger right now. I am using
this betrayal right now. So now I'm awake, are I?
Now I'm aware? And when I become aware, I become
connected to my source, and the solution starts to reach me.
The energy and the frequency of my source starts to
come in. And it is the thing that dissipates the
thing that is causing the separation.
Speaker 1: You see beautifully said, what insights can you share about
humanity's potential over the next ten years?
Speaker 2: As we said to you, we are entering into new ground.
You might even call it higher ground. And so if
you were to look at all of eternity as a
wave pattern, as something that is rising and falling, that
each time that the wave falls it may go a
little deeper. Yeah, and then it may rise a little higher.
And we are at one of these high points, these
evolutionary points, or something that is going to be experienced
that has not been experienced before. But we are telling
you that it is headed upwards, it is headed in
a good direction. Does that mean it will stay there forever?
This might be a concept that someone doesn't want to hear.
But nothing stays the same, Nothing ever stays at the
peak or at the top forever. So it is to
understand that you are to be Robin is looking for
the word for us. Yeah, you are to be allowing.
You are to surrender to the way of the universe,
and you are to live in the now and in
the present moment and to experience what it is that
you are experiencing right now and enjoy the highest and
greatest value of it.
Speaker 1: So, in other words, everything that we go through as
a human in this dimension is cyclical, meaning that it
will go it goes around, and it's kind of like
what the Yugas state that the cycle of twenty four
thousand years and now we're on an upcycle. But eventually,
and this could be tens of thousands of years from now,
we will eventually start to go back down to where
we were in the dark ages and forget and lose
and have to do this all over again, but it
will be at a different place. It's kind of like
moved up the ladder a little bit there.
Speaker 2: Thus the experience is all going on at one time. Yeah,
and so we are in a sense revisiting or recalibrating.
You see.
Speaker 1: One question I get asked a lot is how can
a person discern between the thoughts of the ego and
the voice of intuition.
Speaker 2: So the ego is maintained in the three lower energy centers.
A lot of people think that the ego is a
bad thing, and it's a necessary thing. When one believes
in competition, when one believes that they need to guard
or control, when one gets jealous or angry. All of
these types of lower tone emotions are where the ego
is enacted because it is needed. You are not in
a place of creation where you understand that through your
thought and through your likeness, that you are able to
bring to yourself what it is that you're wanting. So
you're still in the efforting stage, you're still in the
competing stage, and so this is a good way to
detect where you are on that scale of your energy centers.
So when you're in the three lower energy centers, this
is third density one, two, three, Yeah, this is the
area where the competition, where the lust, the not enoughness,
the judgment, the condemnation, all of those lower tone emotions
are primarily based in third density. As one starts to
expand their constant consciousness through the natural evolution, and that's
what happens everyone. Certain people start to wake up or
recognize that they are the creator of their experience, and
that starts to allow energy. And when we talk about
Koondelini energy, it's really Robin's expertise and really what we
have come here to activate or to assist humans in activating,
because that energy is at the base of the spine
of every single human. There's probably enough leaking up in
the three lower energy centers to keep you alive, and
that's why you are struggling. But as the upper energy
centers open are capable of holding the higher frequencies. That
energy very naturally will start to travel up, and so
then the manifestation speed starts to feed up and humans
start to become the God's informed that they were meant
to be. You were not meant to wait forever. You
were not meant to suffer. Suffer is optional. Suffering is
not something that someone has to experience. Suffering happens when
a human thinks and believes that they cannot have, be
or do something that they already are.
Speaker 1: You see, why did you get excited on that last bit.
Speaker 2: Because we use the energy to push, We use the
denial energy of those that don't understand that concept to
rid them of it. You see.
Speaker 1: So, then, from your perspective, what is the deeper purpose
of human suffering? Where so many people have that question
in their mind.
Speaker 2: When a human suffers, they believe in lack, they believe
in not love, they believe in all of those concepts
that are creating their own suffering. When they start to
open up and they allow more light to enter their field,
they will rise to a level of consciousness where those
beliefs do not exist.
Speaker 1: So the human suffering is attachment to what they want
to happen or what they want to be as opposed
to what is yes. Now, if you could leave humanity
with one timeless piece of wisdom, what would it be.
Speaker 2: Our biggest message has been and always will be that
all is well and that you are exactly where you
need to be as a consciousness, individually and as a
plan in it as a whole. What is being experienced
needs to be experienced. What you need to accept is
to surrender, is to know that as a human and
as a race, you do not have as much power
as you think you do in bringing what you want
to yourself. You can feel it into existence, but you
are not the one who cultivates the experience or exactly
how it will arrive. So you may as well give
up that struggle. You may as well give up that fight.
If you are one that is fighting for something, you
are not assisting in the rise of consciousness. You are
not the do gooder that you think you are. You
are the one that is holding it back. Go to surrender,
Go to bleeding, Go to letting, go, Go to paying
attention and observing yourself and how you feel. Be accountable.
This is what we would recommend.
Speaker 1: Lathinea, thank you so much for being here, and thank
you so much for this amazing conversation that I hope
will continue to heal and help people for many, many
years to come. Thank you.
Speaker 2: It's our greatest pleasure.
Speaker 1: Good day, and she's back. You come in and out
so quick.
Speaker 2: I know, it's really quite strange, isn't it kind of
funny the light language didn't come up. Maybe you kind
of talking about maybe it's not that great. It was
a good thing, not that it's not great.
Speaker 1: I never said it was.
Speaker 2: I'm just teasing you a little.
Speaker 1: I just we just need subtitles sometimes if it's a
it's answering a question, that's all.
Speaker 2: If you would need to, we can't leave the broadcast
without leaving a little crazy behind. This type of communication
is galactic. It is something that all humans will be
able to eventually tap into and have exchanges with higher
levels of consciousness. Not only will you be able to
talk to yourselves at higher levels of consciousness, you will
also be able to tap into higher frequencies based upon
the frequency you hold and have these types of exchanges
and conversations. This is what's coming in your future, you see.
Speaker 1: So were they translating at the same time as they
were talking.
Speaker 2: You know, I can translate it myself, or I just
let Athena do it because I'm so used to just
stepping aside. I think one of the reasons that light
language was easy for me to get is because it
is a form of channel. And the only way I
would say that it's different is I become piqued. I
become very aware because it's almost like I have to
remember what they're saying and allow the repeating of it.
It's not going through your brain because your brain isn't
isn't obviously able to decipher it. It's I'm told it
comes through the heart center.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. That's beautiful. All right. So, Robin, I'm gonna
ask you those few questions, ask all my guests a
couple of new ones in there. They all right last time.
So what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?
Speaker 2: Oh? Let's see.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if Athina wants to jump in
on any of these questions, by all means okay.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, for me, it's it's the freedom. Uh,
it's the acceptance of myself of being a human, of
not thinking I have to act different be different or
strive to be something higher than what I am. That's
just that complete allowing of being able to feel my
life authentically the way that I feel it.
Speaker 1: If you had a chance to go back in time
and speak to little Robin, what advice would you give her?
Speaker 2: I'd probably say I'm sorry or you know, there were
a lot of things that happened to me over my life,
and I think that they were needed. And you know
now that I look back on it, but you know,
I did have some victimization. I was a chubby little
girl and got picked on and I had some very
hurtful experiences growing up when I was in school, and
I just remember feeling I deserved them. But now looking
back on that, I realized that the feeling that I
deserved them was coming from a knowing of what I held.
I did deserve them. I held unworthiness, I held dissatisfaction
about myself, and so I brought it to myself. So
even as a young child, I can remember feeling that way,
and so you know, I just feel like I wish
I would have understood that I was creating reality back then,
but I didn't.
Speaker 1: Now what a device would Little Robin give you? Today.
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like I used to, I would say
earlier in my life, hold a lot of things inside
of myself, maybe my fun side or my impulsive side
in my personality. I have a really good sense of humor,
and I like to swear once in a while. I
think it's funny, and so I only let that out
around my immediate family. And now what happens is it
comes out everywhere. And I used to think that it
wouldn't be received, but actually it is. And I realized
that I was the only one that was putting the
bars around myself. And once I decided to not do
that anymore, everyone was accepting. Everybody was fine with who
I was.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm on to sidetrack here for a second. Isn't
it amazing how the stories that we tell ourselves completely
dominate our existence.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you can blame other people for not letting
you be yourself, or you know you're not doing things
because of this or because of that, but you know,
ultimately it boils down to you.
Speaker 1: Now, how do you define God or source?
Speaker 2: I just define it as it's just a knowing. It's
just an ever present knowing. Since this process has occurred
and this unfolding has taken place, I feel like, and
I think I talk to you about this before we
started recording, that I'm being pulled or guided in a
direction that I, as Robin, would never normally take or do.
And then there's this part of me that just does it,
that just accepts it, that just doesn't worry about it,
and does it even when Robin might be uncomfortable with it.
And so I would describe it as unknowing, just a
complete knowing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like starting a spiritual podcast when you've
never done anything like that before in your life.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What is love?
Speaker 2: Well, my group says the reason they told chose the
name Athena in Truth is because love is truth and
it's a frequency of telling it exactly the way that
it is. Everybody wants the truth. It's the most loving
thing for somebody to receive. And so I would describe
love as a wholeheartedly the truth.
Speaker 1: If you could ask God or source one question, what
would it.
Speaker 2: Be, Oh, let's see, m hm, where does it end? Probably?
And I think the answer is it doesn't. But that's
hard to swallow. It's hard to perceive that that this
is a never ending process that we are involved in.
It's never going to end.
Speaker 1: And even more difficult the process is that everything is
happening all at the same time. Yeah, that's another one
that your head just starts to short sut when you
think about it. How do you define liberation in this lifetime?
Speaker 2: Well, I feel very liberated. Uh. I think moving into
your truth, not being necessarily guided by or influenced by
someone else's opinion of you feels like liberation.
Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life?
Speaker 2: Just to contribute to feel.
Speaker 1: And where can people find out more about you Athena
and the amazing work you guys are doing.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah. Well, I have a website called athena
intruth dot com and then I also have a website
that I share with my son Mike called Athena Universe.
There's two different things going on there. They can check
that out. My YouTube and podcaster are on there. I
do every other month twenty people at a time. I
do group Kundelini activations and I do private session activations
where primarily my goal in the group's goal is to
assist people in removing a lot of negativity that's in
their field, that's denying the entrance of the light part
of themselves, and so all of that is on the
website and they can get all the information there to
get a hold of me.
Speaker 1: And do you have any partying messages, because I think
Athena already gave us a party message, but do you
have any party messages for the audience? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, I feel more at ease than I've ever felt
in my life. And it's not that I don't care,
and it's not that there aren't a lot of things
going on in the world that one can look at
and not feel good as they do it. But I've
decided to really move to trust and to have my
contribution be one of feeling good and positive. It doesn't
mean that I don't have compassion or send love and
appreciation to those that are expanding universe in ways that
might be painful, but I'm really trying to do my
best to make my contribution one that feels good.
Speaker 1: Robin, thank you so much for being on the show again.
You are such a pleasure. Robin is such a Robin
Athena is such a pleasure. Is speaking as well, So
I appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken this planet.
Speaker 2: So thank you, Thank you, Alex appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I like to thank Robin so much for coming back
on the show and sharing her knowledge and wisdom with
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