Speaker 1: Wait for it, seven o six. I think about KCV
Speaker 1: talks today. Jam Bryan Thomas here with Instudia bring him
Speaker 1: down from the Hudson Institute. Were just going back over
Speaker 1: his record, and not only is he a energy policy expert,
Speaker 1: he's also retired military as a naval aviator. He spent
Speaker 1: time in Dever desert storm. He's been in with the
Speaker 1: IDF in Israel, and so he kind of has a
Speaker 1: real good perception of things going on in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll get to that as a matter of topic. Brigham,
Speaker 1: great to see you today, my friend. It's always a
Speaker 1: pleasure to have you around. Brian, thanks so much, wonderful.
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Speaker 1: out with what they do. Let's start with before we
Speaker 1: dive in a whole bunch of other things, and we
Speaker 1: could go on for hours and hours. Oh real quick,
Speaker 1: and I'll try to remind folks a little bit again
Speaker 1: further into this discussion with Brigham. But Charged Conversations is
Speaker 1: his podcast, so you might want to search for that
Speaker 1: where you get your podcasts, including the iHeartMedia app, so
Speaker 1: search for charged conversations. And how's that been going for you?
Speaker 1: With the podcast?
Speaker 2: It's been going pretty well. You know.
Speaker 3: We put out one every other week and trying to
Speaker 3: delve into topics that are both informational and timely.
Speaker 1: And of course the name of the podcast suggests what
Speaker 1: it's about.
Speaker 2: In this energy.
Speaker 3: Policy it is, and it's also the controversy surrounding energy
Speaker 3: and some of the broader topics related to energy.
Speaker 1: Well, and we'll definitely move on to that right now.
Speaker 1: Let us begin. I was joking with brigand when he
Speaker 1: came in, I said, so, have you had to sit
Speaker 1: down with Kamala Harrison actually asked her and did she
Speaker 1: tell you what her energy policy is? Because part of
Speaker 1: the problem we've got going on here is that she
Speaker 1: has a record, and it's not that old. Twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: was when she was running for president the United States
Speaker 1: of America. We know how far that got her. She
Speaker 1: had to drop out because she couldn't find a single
Speaker 1: human being alive that was willing to think that she
Speaker 1: was a great candidate. And we know how that all
Speaker 1: worked out. But no fracking, for example, is one of
Speaker 1: the things she uttered. She's all in the Green New Deal.
Speaker 1: She took responsibility and credit for this Green New Deal
Speaker 1: that was what cloaked as the Inflation Reduction Actor or
Speaker 1: something like that, among other multi trillion dollar bills that
Speaker 1: were passed that have obviously had an inflationary effect on
Speaker 1: our economy, but in favor of banning fracking, for example.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I mean, these tumultuous times we live in,
Speaker 1: going back to Middle East and elsewhere, that's dangerous.
Speaker 3: Gosh, Brian, she's such a center of the road candidate
Speaker 3: on these type of topics.
Speaker 1: Oh, you can talk to the mainstream media lately, haven't.
Speaker 3: The legacy media, right? You know what's really what I
Speaker 3: find really interesting about this year. Obviously we're in unchartered territory.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: We have never had a presidential nominee not go through
Speaker 3: a primary process to be vetted and have millions of
Speaker 3: people vote for them. And I think, you know, the
Speaker 3: primary process is the way that we vet candidates, and
Speaker 3: it's we're exactly We're used to this open primary process
Speaker 3: where other people can go, hey, Brian, I agree with
Speaker 3: you on that, or I don't agree with you on this.
Speaker 2: And that has all.
Speaker 1: Been you know, thrown by the wayside.
Speaker 3: And so I think you know his exit, Biden's exit,
Speaker 3: you know who is Kamala Harris and who's she all about?
Speaker 3: And it's interesting that the legacy media is trying to
Speaker 3: reintroduce her, rehabilitate her, and honestly, I think it's the
Speaker 3: third or fourth time they've done that already. They you know,
Speaker 3: hard reset, hard reset, But you can't get away from
Speaker 3: what she says. And regardless of what she says today,
Speaker 3: we have to take her and believe that she is
Speaker 3: honest in her opinions. And we don't have to go
Speaker 3: back that far to find these things that you've just
Speaker 3: mentioned well.
Speaker 1: And you know, most recently, and I know it's unrelated
Speaker 1: to any particular policy position, but she was part of
Speaker 1: this effort to hide from the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: What we obviously could tell with our own eyes is
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden was losing his marbles. I mean she did,
Speaker 1: she was is she engaged in the cover up? Who
Speaker 1: met with Joe Biden more than Kamala Harris. I think
Speaker 1: they have her down as having sat down and had
Speaker 1: internal meetings with the more than eighty times She's obviously
Speaker 1: has a presence in the White House and can see
Speaker 1: how he is react to other people's interactions with Joe
Speaker 1: Biden because you know, they didn't keep their opinions for themselves. Gee,
Speaker 1: Joe's not doing real well. You know, those conversations took place,
Speaker 1: and yet there she was out talking about how he's
Speaker 1: the most the sharpest knife in the drawer and the
Speaker 1: most astute. I can't even keep up with it myself.
Speaker 1: It was a bunch of crap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it's it was the worst kept
Speaker 3: secret in DC for for several years. I mean, people
Speaker 3: that are in DC have known this for a long
Speaker 3: time that you know, sadly, you know, Joe Biden of
Speaker 3: today is not that Joe Biden from twenty years ago.
Speaker 3: And I think had he not been able to hide
Speaker 3: out in the basement in twenty twenty during COVID, we
Speaker 3: would have realized it back then.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Well, in this bump in the polls, this collective
Speaker 1: sigh of relief from the Democrats, clearly they are happy
Speaker 1: that they don't have the bumbling Joe Biden around to
Speaker 1: deal with anymore. Obviously they were aware of it, which
Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why you can attribute a
Speaker 1: bumping the polls with Kamala Harris over Joe Biden. It's
Speaker 1: just that she's not Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: No, she's not. And but you know, this is what
Speaker 3: they have left. And part of those discussions were, well,
Speaker 3: could we have a many primary, could we get other
Speaker 3: people in?
Speaker 1: And then they intentionally ran on the clock on that one, didn't.
Speaker 2: They They did.
Speaker 3: In fact, they moved it up, right, They moved all
Speaker 3: these deadlines up. And you know, so they are behind
Speaker 3: Kamala until they're not any longer. But you know, talking
Speaker 3: about her, it's interesting, there is something I agree with
Speaker 3: her about, and that is that paper for straws don't
Speaker 3: work very well. Now she still wants to ban plastic straws,
Speaker 3: but she is on the record as saying, you know,
Speaker 3: they're not strong enough. You get halfway through your drink
Speaker 3: and they fold in half. So but that doesn't deter
Speaker 3: her or people like her from pursuing these ideological, foundational
Speaker 3: crazy policies.
Speaker 1: Well, crazy policies that are usually predicated on the concept
Speaker 1: that you and I simply breathing is killing the planet.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, but you know you're right, you talk about the
Speaker 1: Green New Deal. You're worn around when the glaciers melted.
Speaker 1: We weren't around during the Many Ice Age, or at
Speaker 1: least we didn't have SUVs during that period of time.
Speaker 1: And we could go on ad nauseum for all the
Speaker 1: things that happened relative to climate change, which does exist,
Speaker 1: that of course humans had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: How is it that this time the climate is changing
Speaker 1: as it is wont to do since the dawn of
Speaker 1: the earth, that we're responsible this time and it isn't
Speaker 1: some other natural phenomena like sun maybe volcanic eruptions, massive wildfires,
Speaker 1: or anything else that puts particulate into the atmosphere.
Speaker 3: So you know, on the energy side, and thinking of that,
Speaker 3: the United States has reduced our greenhouse if you were
Speaker 3: to assume, let me back up, if you were to
Speaker 3: assume just for a second, that we are responsible for
Speaker 3: all this. Number one, we have reduced our emissions while
Speaker 3: other countries like China and India have not. And by
Speaker 3: the way, twenty twenty three, and I predict now in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four will be the most coal used in
Speaker 3: the world on record.
Speaker 1: That would not surprise me. Because our energy demands globally
Speaker 1: are increasing dramatically.
Speaker 3: Yes, and with the advent of AI data centers, we
Speaker 3: need more energy, not less. So it's really important that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we should all be good stewards in the environment. I
Speaker 3: don't think anything. I don't think anybody is saying that
Speaker 3: we shouldn't be. But the same token, we have to
Speaker 3: be able to walk and chew gum. And you know,
Speaker 3: getting back to Kamala for a minute, you know, she
Speaker 3: was a supporter of the Green New Deal. She cast
Speaker 3: the tie breaking vote in the Senate for the Inflation
Speaker 3: Reduction Act, which, by the way, had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with reducing In fact, it was.
Speaker 1: An embarrassingly stupid name piece of legislation. But they had
Speaker 1: the nerve to call that the Inflation Reduction Act is
Speaker 1: just a reflection of their perception of Americans collective stupidity
Speaker 1: when it comes to legislation.
Speaker 2: You're not wrong.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think I'm right. That's why I said
Speaker 1: it out loud. I got to be on records. Somebody's
Speaker 1: recording this right now, perfect for replay later. Thomas, you
Speaker 1: said this, and it's like, yeah, I said it, and
Speaker 1: I believed it when I said it, and I have
Speaker 1: a feeling I'll believe that ten years hence absolutely, let's
Speaker 1: pause seven fifty. We're going to continue more detail with
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Speaker 1: in studio Brigham Acounts from the Hudson Institute Hudson dot
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Speaker 1: going down that way. We're gonna jump back energy policy.
Speaker 1: I whatever your thoughts are, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: steer in a different direction, but man, the question is
Speaker 1: burning back in the back of my mind. The solution
Speaker 1: to the globes problems with energy is non carbon producing
Speaker 1: nuclear power plants. Modern ones. They're modular, they're easy to build,
Speaker 1: one size fits all, they can go anywhere. Just don't
Speaker 1: build them in a blank and tsunami zone. Stupid, stupid,
Speaker 1: stupid stupid. So yeah, Fukushima would still be there if
Speaker 1: they had built it about one hundred feet higher above
Speaker 1: the ground. I'm just I know, I'm on a stream
Speaker 1: of consciousness tear here. But don't you think Trump would
Speaker 1: gain some advantage by saying we are going to be
Speaker 1: the world's leader in the production and creation of nuclear
Speaker 1: power plants, which will serve and solve all of our
Speaker 1: energy needs. There's an article on the Wall Street General
Speaker 1: today about artificial intelligence in the amount that's going to
Speaker 1: cause everyone's power bills to go up. There's not sufficient generation, right, No.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, well, I think you're absolutely right. I look,
Speaker 3: we've made some missteps with nuclear power in the past. Right,
Speaker 3: You've got Chernobyl three my island. Okay, I know it
Speaker 3: was fifty years ago that was closer to World War
Speaker 3: two today.
Speaker 1: Right, Listen, it ain't nineteen seventy, it's anymore.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 3: And even the Japanese have now sort of reversed themselves
Speaker 3: and said, oh, we need to build nuclear power plants,
Speaker 3: we should just probably not build them in tsunamism and
Speaker 3: so that, And I think if you look, even the
Speaker 3: vast majority of Americans, especially younger Americans, support nuclear power.
Speaker 3: We just brought a new reactor online down South, a
Speaker 3: voctal reactor. Our problem with nuclear power is typically we
Speaker 3: don't do very well at building them in the past.
Speaker 3: They're behind schedule, they're over budget. We're our own worst enemy,
Speaker 3: and that can be fixed with these new modular reactors.
Speaker 1: Exactly this year. The giant cooling tower plants of old,
Speaker 1: their footprint in terms of size is comparatively tiny. The
Speaker 1: waste issues have mostly been resolved. There is a minimum
Speaker 1: amount of overall waste. You can take all the global
Speaker 1: waste in the world and put it in one site
Speaker 1: like that Yuca Mountain facility. It would still all fit,
Speaker 1: and they'd still have room for more down the road.
Speaker 1: But I meant it's not an existential threat to have
Speaker 1: nuclear waste or to deal with it. Nuclear power is
Speaker 1: powering right now, the aircraft carriers that are on the
Speaker 1: way to the Middle East, and they never have to
Speaker 1: be refueled. I know the submarines the same way. We've
Speaker 1: been using nuclear power safely and efficiently and effectively with
Speaker 1: military for decades as well. I don't see a problem here.
Speaker 3: There isn't one. We just need to beat a little
Speaker 3: bit smarter how we build them. And if you look
Speaker 3: at us nuclear reactors that are currently in existence, you
Speaker 3: go to each one, every single one is different. They're
Speaker 3: engineered slightly different. Again, We've got to get out of
Speaker 3: our way. And the idea behind these modular nuclear reactor
Speaker 3: designs is that they will be licensed and then it's
Speaker 3: like a car, you just keep producing the same thing
Speaker 3: over and over and they can be tied together. After all,
Speaker 3: all we're using the nuclear energy for is to heat
Speaker 3: water to spin power turbines to create electricity.
Speaker 1: Right, it's not that hard. And you would think, given
Speaker 1: that the globe has a really really hot core that
Speaker 1: you drill down far enough it's as hot as it
Speaker 1: can be, you could make a free, non nuclear weight
Speaker 1: energy using steam turbines just simply with geothermal.
Speaker 3: There are people working on that, and I'm sure some
Speaker 3: of your listeners may have geothermal. I do heating and cooling, okay,
Speaker 3: And how does it work for you?
Speaker 1: Wonderfully? There you go absolutely very few moving parts and
Speaker 1: a warranty like a fifty year warranty on the loop,
Speaker 1: and I mean, it's just it's outstanding.
Speaker 3: Well, I think your big point is, and if we
Speaker 3: look back to the Trump years, and look, I didn't
Speaker 3: agree with Trump on everything, right, I don't think we've
Speaker 3: I've agree with any president one hundred percent of what
Speaker 3: they do. But he understands the power literally that energy
Speaker 3: provides this country. It's a source of economic stability, it's
Speaker 3: a source of national security, and energy security is very important.
Speaker 3: And we are blessed with all of these abundant natural
Speaker 3: resources that a lot of countries don't have.
Speaker 1: And up until this moment in history, we were blessed
Speaker 1: with administration after administration that had no problem tapping into
Speaker 1: it or using it for our collective benefit. And that's
Speaker 1: what happened. The world noticed that the United States, with
Speaker 1: free markets and capitalism and all the wonderful glories that
Speaker 1: go along with free speech and your right to move
Speaker 1: and travel and start and establish your own life and
Speaker 1: make your own decisions, created the greatest, most powerful country
Speaker 1: in the planet or on the planet, and to take
Speaker 1: away energy would wreck that model. And sometimes I'm very,
Speaker 1: very firmly of mind that that's exactly the point. Hook
Speaker 1: us up to a grid run by windmills and solar
Speaker 1: panels with limited availability and comparatively small production of energy
Speaker 1: compared to what we're used to, or compared to what
Speaker 1: nuclear would bring, allows us to continue to be the
Speaker 1: most prosperous country in the world under our business model.
Speaker 3: It absolutely does and that's why I think it's this
Speaker 3: election coming up is going to be very important, and
Speaker 3: you know, getting back to charge conversations for just a second.
Speaker 3: We dive in depth in our last episode into what
Speaker 3: is Kamala Harris's views on energy and just a tidbit,
Speaker 3: one of her last acts as the California Attorney General,
Speaker 3: just weeks before she went into the US Senate, she
Speaker 3: sued Now think about this, Kamala Harris sued the Obama
Speaker 3: administration over its plan to allow fracking off of the
Speaker 3: Pacific coast.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna pivot over to the Middle East policy with
Speaker 1: my guest Brigham account from Hudson and Stuity, who does
Speaker 1: have a big connection with the Middle East. He's been
Speaker 1: there several times and knows quite a bit of what's
Speaker 1: going on. In the meantime, we're talking energy policy, and
Speaker 1: of course I expressed my lament over the lack of
Speaker 1: nuclear power entering into the discussion very often, if at all,
Speaker 1: seems me Donald Trump could seize on that. We talked
Speaker 1: about the modern modular nuclear plants that are all exactly
Speaker 1: the same cookie cutters. You have cheaper production, quicker build times,
Speaker 1: and massive, massive production of electricity. Question before we move
Speaker 1: that subject and go over to the concept of environmental
Speaker 1: justice and equity, which I know Kamala Harris is all
Speaker 1: over and I don't even know what that means. Can
Speaker 1: I ask, is the answer to the question why the
Speaker 1: climate alarmist don't embrace nuclear power? Is it because of
Speaker 1: what I pointed out before, because it allows us to
Speaker 1: continue on this massive power production at low cost consumptive
Speaker 1: reality of what we have achieved so far, or how
Speaker 1: we've been able to live large so far. We don't
Speaker 1: want abundant power period because that allows us to be
Speaker 1: too consumptive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian, I think it is embedded in the ideological
Speaker 3: philosophy of some of these folks that there's some subconscious
Speaker 3: level they want to be mediocre. They are embarrassed by success,
Speaker 3: they're embarrassed by America standing in the world, and instead
Speaker 3: of like your eye, seeing this as a positive piece
Speaker 3: where we help lead the world, see it quite the opposite.
Speaker 3: And so it's about holding us back at.
Speaker 1: This point, Yeah, limiting our consumption, limiting our ability to travel,
Speaker 1: moving us into tiny homes, limiting on what we can eat,
Speaker 1: what our selections are in terms of food, and what's
Speaker 1: available to us by way, you know, like beef for example,
Speaker 1: or anything else has been demonized as something that is
Speaker 1: absolutely so terrible for the globe and the climate that
Speaker 1: we shouldn't even be able to eat a steak.
Speaker 2: So I think if you look back to.
Speaker 3: Great presidence in the past, Ronald Reagan comes to mind,
Speaker 3: it's about pulling people up. We have a duty to
Speaker 3: go out and actually be a uniter, something Biden said
Speaker 3: he was going to do. Remember that was and we
Speaker 3: voted for him because he was going to be the
Speaker 3: uniter in chief.
Speaker 2: But and Allo, you know, seriousness.
Speaker 3: Reagan talked about American exceptionalism and how we had a
Speaker 3: duty to help others out come up to our standard.
Speaker 3: We didn't need to drop to a lesser standard. And
Speaker 3: I think you know, what you're seeing today is just
Speaker 3: that we need to lower our expectations.
Speaker 1: And isn't that funny that we will lower our expectations.
Speaker 1: We will collectively cut our throats in the name of
Speaker 1: saving the planet. And what will we do with that
Speaker 1: money that they take away in terms of carbon taxes
Speaker 1: and credits and things of that nature. We're going to
Speaker 1: give it to the third world countries because they deserve
Speaker 1: it and need to be elevated. So not to the
Speaker 1: degree that there that they would be elevated to an
Speaker 1: American consumptive level. No, no, no, but just at least
Speaker 1: take a third world nation and move it up to
Speaker 1: a second world status, and then reduce the first world
Speaker 1: nations down to a second world status. So we're all
Speaker 1: sort of collectively miserable.
Speaker 3: We are all the same, which is a fundamental tentative
Speaker 3: Marxist philosophy.
Speaker 1: According to his ability, yes, according.
Speaker 3: To his need, to his needs. And that is one
Speaker 3: of the problems I have. I don't have any problem
Speaker 3: with us being fair and equitable as far as opportunity
Speaker 3: is concerned, that's different. That is different, right, But equity
Speaker 3: means equivalent out come. I would love to be an
Speaker 3: NBA basketball star.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I won't be one either.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's that's I'll voutsay that. But
Speaker 3: that's a you know, that's one of the fundamental policy
Speaker 3: differences we have. And you know, if we look at
Speaker 3: how important energy has been next to the cost of
Speaker 3: ourselves and raw materials, it's what makes or breaks a society.
Speaker 3: And if we look at Europe right now, especially Germany
Speaker 3: after their failed green policies and the ultimate reliance on
Speaker 3: Russian oil and gas.
Speaker 1: What twisted reality that turned into.
Speaker 3: It has turned into. They have now sky high energy
Speaker 3: prices because they were not energy independent, and we are
Speaker 3: seeing significant reductions in their GDP and loss of industrialization.
Speaker 3: They don't they're losing their factories, they're losing their ability
Speaker 3: to make things. And I think it's a tail tale
Speaker 3: sign for America.
Speaker 1: Canary in the coal mine, folks see unfold in real time.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a watch in Venezuela. Right here.
Speaker 1: Ther point you go from a sort of a free
Speaker 1: market reality to pure socialism nationalizing oil companies, and the
Speaker 1: place turns into hell in a handbasket, and every single
Speaker 1: person with the ability to leave has already left. Sir
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Speaker 1: Brigham Account from the Hudson It's too talking energy policy,
Speaker 1: among other things. If we exhausted the topic, we obviously
Speaker 1: know we need abundant energy. Artificial intelligence is going to
Speaker 1: absorb I think all the new energy we can produce.
Speaker 1: See today's Wall Street Journal on the impact on your
Speaker 1: personal electric bill for the realities of artificial intelligence coming
Speaker 1: to the equation and banning fracking and drilling and everything
Speaker 1: else related to this so called evil fossil fuels would
Speaker 1: ruin our economy and set us up for well, I
Speaker 1: suppose it's an It provides an opportunity for threats from
Speaker 1: abroad to take advantage of us as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does.
Speaker 3: And I think the bottom line is if you look
Speaker 3: back to pro energy presidents, you see lower fuel prices.
Speaker 3: And I think I just gassed up the other day
Speaker 3: at three point fifty. That's outrageous, right, and that's for regular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I led I pump premium, so mine was more
Speaker 1: like four to fifty.
Speaker 3: And last weekend in California, I gassed up at almost six.
Speaker 3: So if you want that, well.
Speaker 1: You know what, Yeah, that's exactly when you're getting you know.
Speaker 1: I always go back to this when Obamas started on
Speaker 1: all this crap, we married the country to this green
Speaker 1: New deal al Gore inspired nonsense. His point was the
Speaker 1: price will necessarily go up. The point of all these
Speaker 1: policies was to make it go up. See you quit
Speaker 1: driving your damn cars. They wanted to ruin you financially.
Speaker 1: They didn't have any substitute for transportation back then. But boy,
Speaker 1: they were happy to take all those gas guzzler cars.
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Speaker 1: market and destroy them and take them from out of
Speaker 1: your grasp.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very simple. Government policy, right, picks winners and losers.
Speaker 3: If we like you, we give you subsidies. If we
Speaker 3: don't like you, we tax you, we regulate you, We
Speaker 3: figure out ways to make your cost of doing business
Speaker 3: go up. And you know, Biden will take credit for Hey,
Speaker 3: we have more oil and gas being produced this year
Speaker 3: in America than ever before. But that's in spite of
Speaker 3: his policies. You know, we wouldn't have three fifty dollars gas.
Speaker 1: Private land. Oh, if you can only get his hands
Speaker 1: on private land, all that fracking that was done on
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. My wife grew up in an area where
Speaker 1: they had abundant fracking, and trust me, the area residents
Speaker 1: around Little Avella, Pennsylvania are really really happy with the
Speaker 1: royalty checks they are getting. They all got new tractors,
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Speaker 1: have brand new roads and new infrastructure brought to them
Speaker 1: because of the fracking companies that came in and bought
Speaker 1: the mineral rights for the various properties around there. So
Speaker 1: you know, it works and it puts a smile on
Speaker 1: people's face, and gee, we need the energy.
Speaker 3: We do, and it grows that economic pie, which means
Speaker 3: there's more for all of us.
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Speaker 1: Seven fifty fifty five ker Seed de talk station coming
Speaker 1: up off the cover of the Our News's going to
Speaker 1: hear from Joe Paul Wrightbird, a senior editor at large,
Speaker 1: and we'll get the bright part inside scoop. Who really
Speaker 1: has the momentum, Kamala Harris or Donald Trump? And meanwhile
Speaker 1: trying to get Trump to stay on message rather the
Speaker 1: name call be more important. He could talk energy policy
Speaker 1: as we are right now with Brigham account from Hudson Institute,
Speaker 1: but they could also talk about the deteriorating situation in
Speaker 1: the Middle East, and I wanted to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: and comments on that as we send a new carrier
Speaker 1: group over and a Tomahawk launching submarine and projecting and
Speaker 1: letting everybody over there know that that stuff is on
Speaker 1: the way or they are already. We heard from my
Speaker 1: submarine or friend Curbage Mike, who served as country Nobly
Speaker 1: about that submarine. He said, those things are wicked and
Speaker 1: they are stealthy, and they really can launch those one
Speaker 1: thousand mile range tomahawks and virtually no time. So that
Speaker 1: is certainly a deterrent effect you're on. But what's your
Speaker 1: take on what's going on over there right now?
Speaker 3: Well, it's always been an area of significant instability right
Speaker 3: in my entire life. And you know, I was in
Speaker 3: Desert Storm. I think that was a righteous fight to
Speaker 3: expel Hussaying from Kuwait. I regret that, you know, we
Speaker 3: went back a second time, I think.
Speaker 1: Under false pretense.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I think there was a lot of confusion
Speaker 3: the second time, But if you look at it, I
Speaker 3: think the senior Bush got it right. Hussein may not be,
Speaker 3: you know, buying girl Scout cookies, but he was a
Speaker 3: hedge against Iran, and it kept the power equilibrium stable
Speaker 3: over there, and when you don't have that, you have
Speaker 3: a vacuum, right, and Iran nothing against the Persian people,
Speaker 3: the citizens, but obviously a very antagonistic government who wants
Speaker 3: the destruction of Israel, who wants instability. I think we
Speaker 3: have to keep in mind and stop trying to talk
Speaker 3: like people like it's you or I having a conversation
Speaker 3: with our values. The enemies of America do not share
Speaker 3: the same values. They don't want there to be peace
Speaker 3: because they reject a US led global world order and
Speaker 3: how we view these things. So the fact that you know,
Speaker 3: Trump had maximum pressure with Mike Pompeo during his term
Speaker 3: on Iran.
Speaker 2: We moved the embassy to Jerusalem.
Speaker 3: Where it had been law for I don't know, twenty
Speaker 3: thirty years, and nobody had the gumption to do it,
Speaker 3: and we had Iran on the ropes. Since then, this
Speaker 3: administration is unfrozen billions of dollars in Iranian funds. It's
Speaker 3: encouraged bad behavior. And you know, it is indescribable that
Speaker 3: Iron launched hundreds of weapons against Israel, and Biden says,
Speaker 3: take the win, and now we're back for round two,
Speaker 3: and guess what it's going to be bigger.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what everyone keeps saying. You know, it's
Speaker 1: almost like any moment hell, it could have started while
Speaker 1: we were talking this morning. Yeah, And you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know whether they're right or not. I know they
Speaker 1: have intelligence and they can do satellite and look at
Speaker 1: where troops are moving and where equipment's being moved, and
Speaker 1: a lot of that's going on. It'll be based on
Speaker 1: the reporting I read this morning, But you don't know
Speaker 1: what it's going to happen. But you're right on that
Speaker 1: they don't share our perspective. So while one might think
Speaker 1: that appeasing the Iranians and freeing up their funds and
Speaker 1: their assets and trying to play nice with them might
Speaker 1: help welcome them into this collective we had and we
Speaker 1: can we can all negotiate peace and Israel can exist
Speaker 1: and you guys can trade with each other. I mean,
Speaker 1: the idea of that is so foreign to them. It's
Speaker 1: like denying Christ to a Christian. You know, you just
Speaker 1: that's just not going to go anywhere.
Speaker 3: It's not And and and you know, we learned our
Speaker 3: own lesson in that. Oh, if we just invade Iraq,
Speaker 3: we can make them all you know, they'll vote and
Speaker 3: they'll be it doesn't It doesn't work, guys, And so
Speaker 3: you have to deal with people where you find them.
Speaker 3: I hear that from my friends on the left all
Speaker 3: the time, and with the case of Iran, you do yeah,
Speaker 3: and you need to talk to them in their language.
Speaker 3: You need to explain to them they like Russia, China,
Speaker 3: respect powers. It's the doctrine of massive retaliation created by
Speaker 3: the Israelis. I call it the Chicago way. If you
Speaker 3: go back to the nineteen twenties and you meet force
Speaker 3: with overwhelming counter force, that's how you stop bad behavior.
Speaker 1: Indeed, and considering the size and relative strength of our militaries,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be a real issue. I mean, I say
Speaker 1: that knowing Rush has now been fighting Ukrainians for three
Speaker 1: years with all the best hardware and whatever's about available
Speaker 1: and out there on the open market for arms. But
Speaker 1: I'd like to think we could dispatch Iran very quickly
Speaker 1: and hopefully before they get a nuclear weapon. And I
Speaker 1: in passing since we can bring this full full circle
Speaker 1: back to energy policy. They're talking about how this is
Speaker 1: going to impact this widening Mid East war impact global
Speaker 1: oil supply, and that any Iran launch and our retaliation
Speaker 1: could result in embargoes on Iranian crude exports, which apparently
Speaker 1: don't have going on right now affecting one and a
Speaker 1: half millions of barrel per day supply on the global market,
Speaker 1: Meaning the Iranians are selling that evil commodity oil which
Speaker 1: we won't even allow ourselves to drill on our own
Speaker 1: land here in the United States. It's on the open
Speaker 1: market right now. We could sanction them right now, we
Speaker 1: could take that away from them, their ability to trade it,
Speaker 1: and yet we don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't.
Speaker 3: And by the way, that Keystone pipeline that never got built,
Speaker 3: that's about a million and a half barrels a day.
Speaker 2: Right there.
Speaker 1: There you go, another questionable question mark over as we
Speaker 1: put it back to Kamala Harrison, what is her energy policy? Well,
Speaker 1: you know what she's voted for in the past. You
Speaker 1: know what her on record statements are. Don't be fooled
Speaker 1: by the mainstream media who is trying to recharacterize her
Speaker 1: as something that she is not. Bring him out and
Speaker 1: always a pleasure man. Keep up the great work. We're
Speaker 1: checking out your podcast, Charged Conversations, where you do a
Speaker 1: far more in depth analysis of this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And I'll look forward to having you back in studio.
Speaker 1: Thanks Brianton. Hopefully I appreciate it. Thanks brother. Coming up
Speaker 1: bright part inside Scoop Joel Pollock, who has the momentum.
Speaker 1: That's next. Hope you can stick around. It's what motivates
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