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Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: I want to welcome Rhyme Wave. He is an alchemical lyricist,
Speaker 1: bridging gaps between countercultures and alternative dimensions and opening new
Speaker 1: rabbit holes. He channels modern mysticism through hip hop, and
Speaker 1: his music is a cathartic release of esoteric activism, encapsulating
Speaker 1: complex ideas with distilled simplicity, deeply rooted in the underground,
Speaker 1: with a vision for innovation and genre building potentiality. He
Speaker 1: uses humor and paradox to explore radical ideas and ponder
Speaker 1: paranormal possibilities. Rhyme Wave welcome. How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, man, How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm excellent. I can't complain for creating excellent content. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to discuss some of this and what we're
Speaker 1: going to get into today. We're really entering an error
Speaker 1: that seems to be a crossroads in human evolution. We
Speaker 1: can collectively choose to be assimilated into the desired slave
Speaker 1: state that powerful groups are attempting to implement right now,
Speaker 1: or create our own future where we disconnect from the
Speaker 1: dystopic matrix machine and flourish as sovereign humans. There's really
Speaker 1: many layers of reality to peel through before we can
Speaker 1: collectively move away from these negative aspects. But building our
Speaker 1: own reality, I believe, is how we can do that,
Speaker 1: from our own communities to forms of entertainment and even music.
Speaker 1: And we're going to get into all the stuff I
Speaker 1: discussed right here. But this is your first time on.
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about your background and what
Speaker 1: led you down your path.
Speaker 4: Yeah, before I say that, I just want to let
Speaker 4: you know I'm a huge fan of the show and
Speaker 4: just got so much respect for what you're doing and
Speaker 4: just so impressed with what this show has become. Really
Speaker 4: just love how you aren't afraid to touch any topic
Speaker 4: and I never know what I'm gonna get when I
Speaker 4: tune into a new episode. So thank you for doing
Speaker 4: what you do and for having me on today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for the kind words.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely this is gonna be fun. So, yeah, what
Speaker 4: what I do is I make music. I do a
Speaker 4: lot of other things, but music's kind of become my
Speaker 4: main focus in life.
Speaker 3: Lifelong musician.
Speaker 4: You know, a little kid who is obsessed with the radio,
Speaker 4: and you know all the places that we could get
Speaker 4: music back in the day, and then you know, things
Speaker 4: really opened up for me right around the time I
Speaker 4: started high school when we got our first introduction of
Speaker 4: decentralized music technology that came in the form of CD burners,
Speaker 4: and that was really kind of what expanded my arsenal
Speaker 4: of influences once I was able to start trading CDs
Speaker 4: with my friends and hearing a lot of stuff that
Speaker 4: wasn't being promoted in the mainstream, and that was kind
Speaker 4: of when I started listening to underground hip hop music.
Speaker 4: That's what I make. That's kind of what I like
Speaker 4: to classify it as. Some people call it conscious rap music.
Speaker 4: I don't really like to say that, because I think
Speaker 4: we're all conscious at the end of the day. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it's underground, independent rap music. I'm really trying to use
Speaker 4: this art form as a vessel to wake people up,
Speaker 4: to inject a little bit of hope and inspiration into
Speaker 4: the game, and kind of work against what the mainstream
Speaker 4: is putting out there.
Speaker 3: So I've been making music.
Speaker 4: For over twenty twenty five years now, writing raps, making beats,
Speaker 4: and I feel like I'm just kind of coming into
Speaker 4: a really nice place in this journey. My first album
Speaker 4: really building a nice organic community up here in the
Speaker 4: Pacific Northwest and really just doing it all boots on
Speaker 4: the ground, you know, playing shows, organizing events, connecting with
Speaker 4: other artists, collaborating and just trying to give the community
Speaker 4: a place to gather and trying to make the music
Speaker 4: as fun as possible. You know, I wanted to be
Speaker 4: deep and introspective and you know, abstract, but at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, I just wanted to be fun.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think that's that's something that as
Speaker 4: an entertainer you have to you have to pay attention
Speaker 4: to making sure that your stuff is enjoyable. But I
Speaker 4: get pretty pretty deep with my music, so I'm sure
Speaker 4: we'll get into that, but that's kind of where I'm
Speaker 4: coming from. I'm originally from the Twin Cities as well.
Speaker 4: Now I live out in the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 2: Right on.
Speaker 1: Now, let's get into how your music has expressed your awakening.
Speaker 1: How long have you been aware of some of the
Speaker 1: truth about the hidden nature of reality and some of
Speaker 1: the corruption in the material world and things like that.
Speaker 4: I would say my big wake up moment was back
Speaker 4: in twenty twelve, and it was do you know Nasiem
Speaker 4: har Remain. Yeah, yeah, so I went and saw a
Speaker 4: talk on the unified field theory, and I was at
Speaker 4: a music festival and they're just so happened to be
Speaker 4: a dude giving a talk on the unified field theory,
Speaker 4: and one of my friends had dragged me along.
Speaker 3: He's like, you got to check this out. It's so cool.
Speaker 4: I sat through this three hour talk and it was
Speaker 4: just insane, like all the connections that were being made
Speaker 4: in the talk. And I went home after that music
Speaker 4: festival and I just could not stop researching all the
Speaker 4: stuff that he was talking about, particularly ancient megalists, ancient architecture,
Speaker 4: and crop circles in the way that he was tying
Speaker 4: in these ideas of crop circles with with different sacred geometry,
Speaker 4: and it was just a huge eye opening moment for myself.
Speaker 3: I actually got my crop circle hat on right now
Speaker 3: for all these people who are watching the video.
Speaker 4: And then you know, once you start looking into that stuff,
Speaker 4: it's only a matter of time before you get into
Speaker 4: all the other things. So that was kind of my
Speaker 4: initial rabbit hole was the crop circles, and then you know,
Speaker 4: you start looking into aliens, then you get into government
Speaker 4: cover ups, and before long you're looking into secret societies
Speaker 4: and underground bases and chemtrails and all that stuff. And
Speaker 4: you know, I would say it did get a little
Speaker 4: dark for a while. I kind of had to like
Speaker 4: pull myself out of the rabbit hole just just a bit,
Speaker 4: and then I got a lot more focused on doing
Speaker 4: research on consciousness, psychic phenomenon, you know, reincarnation, you know,
Speaker 4: plant medicine. I found that I could kind of scratch
Speaker 4: the same itch by looking into a lot of those
Speaker 4: things that weren't quite so dark. That said, I still
Speaker 4: do try to dabble in all different forms of independent research,
Speaker 4: you know, while not depressing myself too much, making sure
Speaker 4: that I don't get too black pilled. But with the
Speaker 4: current state of affairs in the world, it's hard not
Speaker 4: to feel a little hopeless sometimes. But that's why I
Speaker 4: make the music, and that's why I'm trying to bring
Speaker 4: this inspirational message to the people, because I think we
Speaker 4: need it really.
Speaker 3: Bad right now.
Speaker 4: But it's been about ten years or so. To answer
Speaker 4: your question, yeah, man, I am.
Speaker 1: I am really encouraged by what I'm seeing happening, mostly
Speaker 1: in independent hip hop music. Pop music. Mainstream music has
Speaker 1: always been lost. I've never been a fan. I grew
Speaker 1: up listening to a lot of punk rock, indie rock.
Speaker 1: I've never really got into hip hop that much until
Speaker 1: more recently, and there's been so much more of that
Speaker 1: lately popping up, and I'm so encouraged in the direction
Speaker 1: that a lot of independent music and hip hop artists
Speaker 1: are going with their creative content. I mean very encouraging
Speaker 1: that modern pop music and the old gangster rap that
Speaker 1: we used to be perpetuated and pushed on us through
Speaker 1: our all forms of entertainment, and I love seeing that
Speaker 1: more people are looking to more forms of independent entertainment,
Speaker 1: independent media, independent artists, and the music that's coming out
Speaker 1: of here is really amazing. And I'm just like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm very encouraged to see the direction a lot of
Speaker 1: independent artists are going. How do you feel about the
Speaker 1: direction everything is going with entertainment and music in general?
Speaker 4: I think music is in this really beautiful sweet spot
Speaker 4: where you can still be independent and you can still
Speaker 4: get your message out. There's not as many gatekeepers. If
Speaker 4: you look at a lot of the bigger artists, they're
Speaker 4: keeping it independent. You don't need to sign with the
Speaker 4: label the way that you used to, you know, not
Speaker 4: too long ago, there were very you know, few people
Speaker 4: that were making decisions about what kind of music was
Speaker 4: being heard, and that just doesn't exist anymore. I mean,
Speaker 4: I can make a song at home, put it up online,
Speaker 4: and send it out to the entire world. It's it's
Speaker 4: a pretty beautiful place to be. And in terms of
Speaker 4: hip hop, I think, you know, hip hop is just
Speaker 4: one of the greatest ways to deliver a message. You
Speaker 4: can pack so many words into a song, so many
Speaker 4: dense layers of meaning, and you know, I think if
Speaker 4: you look at the charts right now, you'd see that
Speaker 4: hip hop is probably the most popular art form in
Speaker 4: the world, seeing that, you know, more people probably listen
Speaker 4: to music than any other art and then all of
Speaker 4: the top songs are hip hop.
Speaker 3: So's it's a.
Speaker 4: Really good time to be making hip hop music because
Speaker 4: a lot of people are already acclimated to that, Whereas
Speaker 4: you know, maybe ten years ago, it wasn't quite as
Speaker 4: popular and it wasn't quite as easy to break through
Speaker 4: as a hip hop artist, especially a white hip hop artist.
Speaker 3: But I I just love this art form so much.
Speaker 4: And you know, thinking back to some of the original
Speaker 4: hip hop mcs, some of the people way back in
Speaker 4: the day before it got corrupted and used as a
Speaker 4: tool to manipulate people and you know, funnel people into
Speaker 4: our prisons and exploit you know, inner city gang culture
Speaker 4: and all that stuff through the gangster at movement. Hip
Speaker 4: hop was initially used as a tool to wake people up.
Speaker 4: It was very political. It was always trying to put
Speaker 4: out a message. A lot of times it was coming
Speaker 4: out against the mainstream way of thinking. It was coming
Speaker 4: out against our leaders. And I think that that does
Speaker 4: still exist, even though when you look at a lot
Speaker 4: of the hip hop and the mainstream it seems like
Speaker 4: everybody's sold out. I think at its core, hip hop
Speaker 4: really does have this anti establishment, anti authoritarian backbone, you know,
Speaker 4: to the art forms.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of us putting out.
Speaker 4: These types of messages, and it's pretty hard to censor,
Speaker 4: similar to podcasts, you know, with the RSS feeds and
Speaker 4: all that, you can't really sensor music the way that
Speaker 4: you can censor videos on YouTube. And you know, I'm
Speaker 4: putting my stuff out on all the platforms. I'm you know,
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit careful about what I say on
Speaker 4: social media and that sort of thing. I'm also just
Speaker 4: not trying to inundate people with my crazy theories. I'd
Speaker 4: rather put that in the music and let that speak
Speaker 4: for itself and then do podcasts like this where we
Speaker 4: can dive in deeper. But I think it's so cool,
Speaker 4: how you know, I feel like I've kind of hacked
Speaker 4: the system a little bit in terms of putting out
Speaker 4: some of these ideas into the music in a form
Speaker 4: where it can be as easily censored, and there's a
Speaker 4: lot of us doing it. There's a lot of artists
Speaker 4: that have realized this and just trying to utilize this
Speaker 4: art form to its true potential.
Speaker 1: You mentioned artists that kind of sold out to the system.
Speaker 1: I am so disappointed in many of the childhood musicians
Speaker 1: and groups that I thought were anti establishment, anti military,
Speaker 1: anti government, anti corruption. You know, a lot of the
Speaker 1: punk rock bands are just now completely belly up. They're
Speaker 1: requiring booster after booster and phase diapers at their shows
Speaker 1: and just completely caving to the system. They had a
Speaker 1: lot of course rock and roll artists doing this as well.
Speaker 1: It's across the board in music, and you get to
Speaker 1: see the true character of some of the artists that
Speaker 1: you thought were representing a certain appec of reality. Or
Speaker 1: a certain lifestyle, and now you get to completely see
Speaker 1: their true nature. But it is very interesting to see
Speaker 1: what is happening with some of these people that you
Speaker 1: considered your childhood hero or you love to listen to
Speaker 1: their music as a child and growing up, and now
Speaker 1: you get to see what they're really made of.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I couldn't agree more. And you know, it's
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where if you're trying to
Speaker 4: be a global superstar, if you're trying to be you know,
Speaker 4: recognized when you walk down the street and you know,
Speaker 4: want the paparazzi follow you around, that's kind of what
Speaker 4: you sign up for.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It's the same way with like the cult of the medics.
Speaker 4: Once you get so deep into the medical system, you know,
Speaker 4: it becomes very hard to speak out against.
Speaker 3: That same thing with music.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're if you're hoping to win Grammys
Speaker 4: and you know, be at the MTV Awards, get ready
Speaker 4: to you know, pledge your allegiance to the mainstream. And
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not trying to take that road. I
Speaker 4: have no desire to be recognized by random people when
Speaker 4: I'm walking down the street and you know, playing these
Speaker 4: massive stadiums. Uh, There's there's many different routes that you
Speaker 4: can take your art where it doesn't require you to
Speaker 4: have a handler. And that's that's kind of what I've realized,
Speaker 4: is that a lot of artists just have different ambitions
Speaker 4: in terms of what they want. And if you're looking
Speaker 4: for fame and that sort of thing, then you're probably
Speaker 4: going to run into some people that try to control
Speaker 4: your message. But if you're just trying to make good
Speaker 4: art and connect with real people and you know, start
Speaker 4: a little movement, which is very possible for anyone to
Speaker 4: do and make a living off of that, I don't
Speaker 4: think you're going to run into as much of that. So,
Speaker 4: you know, I see maybe half half of my my
Speaker 4: favorite artists taking that path, and then I see a
Speaker 4: lot that didn't. And you know, just to throw a
Speaker 4: couple of names out there, like, I don't know if
Speaker 4: anybody's heard of Aesop Rock or you know, Atmosphere, Sage, Francis,
Speaker 4: brother Ali. These were people that I was listening to
Speaker 4: twenty years ago when I was in high school. They're
Speaker 4: in their forties now, some of them are probably almost fifty,
Speaker 4: and they are just crushing it. They're finally getting the
Speaker 4: recognition they deserve. They've done it all independently, and it
Speaker 4: gives me a lot of hope that you can make
Speaker 4: it as an independent artist without selling out to the mainstream.
Speaker 4: And you know, a lot of these guys are headlining
Speaker 4: festivals now, probably making pretty good money, playing big shows,
Speaker 4: and you know, maybe they're not winning Grammys, maybe they're
Speaker 4: not on MTV, but that's not necessary, so we don't
Speaker 4: need to take that path as an artist. I'm definitely
Speaker 4: not planning on taking that path, and I'm really stoked
Speaker 4: to see other artists standing up against the mainstream and
Speaker 4: deciding to do it independent and speak their mind right on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I grew up playing live music. I grew up
Speaker 1: playing in bands around New Orleans and the Gulf Coast,
Speaker 1: and I played in plenty of venues and live music
Speaker 1: used to be my thing. I used to love this
Speaker 1: so much. Every weekend, me and my friends would be
Speaker 1: out to a different venue, seeing a different band, independent bands,
Speaker 1: local bands, even some of the larger groups that we
Speaker 1: would go out and see. And this was one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things to do up until recently. COVID of course,
Speaker 1: changed everything when it comes to live music and how
Speaker 1: we are going see the artists now and a lot
Speaker 1: of this has changed, and if you want to see
Speaker 1: a big artist, you have to be unfortunately vaxed and
Speaker 1: boosted or some other insane parameters you have to meet
Speaker 1: to just get in to see the artists. But what
Speaker 1: do you think about the future of live music where
Speaker 1: it is now and where it could possibly be going,
Speaker 1: and how are you navigating these waters with the insanity?
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it got pretty crazy for a while there.
Speaker 4: I basically start playing shows at you know, all the
Speaker 4: all the main music venues that I'd been playing at
Speaker 4: and kind of had to take it underground, and you know,
Speaker 4: started playing shows at houses and community centers and art
Speaker 4: galleries and basically anywhere that would allow us to gather
Speaker 4: without masks, without you know, checking people's cards.
Speaker 3: And I was a little worried for a while, but I.
Speaker 4: Think deep down I knew that it wasn't going to last,
Speaker 4: just because it really didn't make sense and they were
Speaker 4: cutting out such a huge portion of the population as
Speaker 4: available customers. I mean, if you're running a venue space
Speaker 4: and you say that you have to have this shot
Speaker 4: to get in, you're basically cutting out half of the community.
Speaker 4: Or more, and you know, similar to how we see
Speaker 4: now that most people are not getting these new boosters.
Speaker 4: I think it's something like ten percent, you know, of
Speaker 4: the population that's gotten them. We're seeing a similar thing
Speaker 4: in the music industry where a lot of these venues
Speaker 4: are stepping back and realizing that it's not feasible to
Speaker 4: and or these regulations. So, you know, I live near Portland, Oregon. Portland,
Speaker 4: Oregon was pretty much you know, lockstep with everything that
Speaker 4: was happening. But it only lasted for about six months,
Speaker 4: I would say, and then venues started drawing it back
Speaker 4: and it wasn't even really a conversation. It was just
Speaker 4: like all of a sudden, one day, people stopped requiring it,
Speaker 4: and then there was only a handful of venues that
Speaker 4: were and now it's back to none. So I really
Speaker 4: don't think that they're gonna be able to bring that back,
Speaker 4: and if they do, it's gonna be really interesting to
Speaker 4: see what happens. But I kind of think it was
Speaker 4: just like a massive experiment and also kind of a
Speaker 4: way to manipulate the people in the artist community, because
Speaker 4: when that was happening, I was seeing a lot of
Speaker 4: things online artists, uh basically saying that this is the
Speaker 4: only way to save the live music industry. And if
Speaker 4: you're not willing to get this shot, if you're not
Speaker 4: willing to play game or you know, playball with with
Speaker 4: what's going on, then it's your fault that live music's
Speaker 4: not coming back. I had people that were offering me
Speaker 4: fake fax cards saying that, hey, I can just give
Speaker 4: you this card and you can come and play the show,
Speaker 4: and you know, it's no big deal, and I would
Speaker 4: have to explain to them it's it's not quite that simple.
Speaker 4: I'm not willing to play this game. I don't want
Speaker 4: the card. I'm willing to wait it out. So that
Speaker 4: was interesting. But you know, because of the fact that
Speaker 4: I've been so active in the community and I have
Speaker 4: a lot of connections around town, it wasn't that hard
Speaker 4: finding places to throw shows. And sometimes it's a lot
Speaker 4: more fun through on a show at a place that
Speaker 4: isn't a big, major music venue. I mean, it's something
Speaker 4: we need to do as artists if we're trying to
Speaker 4: get out there and help our projects grow. Obviously you
Speaker 4: want to get on bigger and bigger stages. But during
Speaker 4: that time, I just wasn't really concerned with playing those
Speaker 4: venues that were enforcing those regulations, And I'm really glad
Speaker 4: it didn't last because now it kind of feels like
Speaker 4: we're back to a decent baseline. You know, you still
Speaker 4: see people rocking the masks, and you know they're welcome
Speaker 4: to do that if they want to. But I'm very
Speaker 4: grateful that nobody's making me do that, and nobody's asking
Speaker 4: to see my papers before I hop on stage.
Speaker 2: Right on.
Speaker 1: You said this even a few times in this interview.
Speaker 1: I say it all the time, guests, the all the
Speaker 1: time is the COVID era. Now we're now in this
Speaker 1: COVID era. Everything is changed because of COVID. Well, if
Speaker 1: you're in this community, you know that there appears to
Speaker 1: be an overarching, organized level of planning behind everything that
Speaker 1: is happening. Some believe many have different theories as to
Speaker 1: why and the reasons behind everything that's occurring. Some believe
Speaker 1: that it is for those at the top. The global
Speaker 1: is the elitist. Whenever you want to call them to
Speaker 1: gain more power and have more control over the masses
Speaker 1: and implement this, they're occult ideology and change humanity and
Speaker 1: alter us to a certain degree so that we're more pliable,
Speaker 1: we're easier to control, and we're easier to keep into
Speaker 1: this state that they desire us to go into. Others
Speaker 1: have the idea that there are different factions with different
Speaker 1: plans on where they want humanity to go. I was
Speaker 1: even speaking with someone yesterday who believes that even though
Speaker 1: everything appears to be horrible and negative, that everything that
Speaker 1: is happening is for our evolution to force us to
Speaker 1: make the right choices and to choose the correct timeline
Speaker 1: and the natural path, and to reject the technocracy that
Speaker 1: they're trying to implement here. It's all very interesting. I
Speaker 1: love hearing different people, different people's ideas of what the
Speaker 1: underlying reasons for all the insanity is right now, and
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your take on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I do tend to agree with the idea that
Speaker 4: there's multiple different factions, you know, all playing out different
Speaker 4: agendas that seem to work very nicely together when we
Speaker 4: have these big crisis events, whether or not they're engineered,
Speaker 4: this one definitely seems like it was, and a lot
Speaker 4: of people took advantage of it, you know. And I
Speaker 4: do also resonate with that idea that this is helping
Speaker 4: us grow in some way. I pretty early on realized
Speaker 4: that in order for myself and others to adapt, you know,
Speaker 4: in order for us to evolve, however you want to
Speaker 4: define those words, pressure needs to be put on. If
Speaker 4: you're just living a safe, comfortable life with no challenges,
Speaker 4: you're not going to evolve. You're not going to adapt.
Speaker 4: And oftentimes that process is very uncomfortable. It involves some suffering,
Speaker 4: and you know, unfortunately some people aren't going to make
Speaker 4: it through that process. But I do really believe that
Speaker 4: this is a map of test. You know, whether or
Speaker 4: not it's it's coming from higher up or or where,
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure. You know, I do tend to
Speaker 4: believe that there's forces greater than ourselves and that they're
Speaker 4: definitely involved with what's going on down here. But you know,
Speaker 4: it's for me. It does seem like it has something
Speaker 4: to do with this transhumanist agenda, the technocratic state taking over.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, a huge part of it has
Speaker 4: to do with technology. If you look at how things
Speaker 4: have become so digitized, the way that data is, the
Speaker 4: new oil, the surveillance that's been happening. I think it
Speaker 4: all plays into these agendas, and I don't necessarily think
Speaker 4: it's just one group of people, and if it was,
Speaker 4: I don't really think we would know who they are.
Speaker 4: There's definitely certain groups that you could look to that
Speaker 4: could be pulling the strings. But yeah, I definitely I
Speaker 4: resonate with a more you know, positive look at it.
Speaker 4: I used to say, it's like we're ripping the band
Speaker 4: aid off because a lot of us have been aware
Speaker 4: of this corruption for a long time, but we haven't
Speaker 4: really been forced into action. I know myself, I was
Speaker 4: living a pretty comfortable life before COVID and focused probably
Speaker 4: a little bit too much on just just having fun
Speaker 4: and not really putting in some of the work that
Speaker 4: it takes to evolve our species, to evolve our minds,
Speaker 4: you know, to really take this to the next level.
Speaker 4: And I feel like when the COVID era started, I
Speaker 4: was kind of snapped into action.
Speaker 3: And my new album is a lot.
Speaker 4: Of songs that I wrote after that realization where I
Speaker 4: was like, you know, now's the time we got to
Speaker 4: put it out there. We have to speak our minds,
Speaker 4: we have to wake people up, and it's more important
Speaker 4: than ever to do what we're here to do. And
Speaker 4: I really do feel like we all have a purpose,
Speaker 4: a soul's path, you know, or reason that we're here
Speaker 4: in this incarnation. And I think that once the COVID
Speaker 4: era started, it really motivated me to find that path
Speaker 4: a little bit more and to do what I'm here
Speaker 4: to do. So yeah, I think, you know, it needed
Speaker 4: to happen. It was going to happen eventually, and I'm
Speaker 4: glad that we're here right now having this conversation kind
Speaker 4: of you know, on the other side of some things,
Speaker 4: but also looking to the future, realizing that there's probably
Speaker 4: a lot more to come, and that we need to
Speaker 4: stay strong and continue to do what we do best.
Speaker 4: And I see you doing that over there. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to do my best over here with this music, and
Speaker 4: you know, hopefully that resonates with people and people feel
Speaker 4: motivated to continue building a better world despite this.
Speaker 3: Dark time that we are we are in right now.
Speaker 1: I want to get to one of the talking points
Speaker 1: you sent me here, which is etymology hidden power of language.
Speaker 1: Like one of my good friends, Paul Knight says, spell tomology,
Speaker 1: there is great power behind language, behind every word that
Speaker 1: we utter, and it all goes back to the occult
Speaker 1: roots of language and what we the intent behind the
Speaker 1: original words and the origins of the words. And I
Speaker 1: was talking with my girlfriend about this earlier. There are
Speaker 1: some words that hold such ancient and eternal power in
Speaker 1: either a negative or positive context, that there is certain
Speaker 1: words that no matter what, you can't change the power
Speaker 1: that is held behind this. And a lot of people
Speaker 1: take language and the words they use on a daily
Speaker 1: basis for granted, and the power behind it, the power
Speaker 1: behind not only language, but music combined with language and
Speaker 1: frequency that this can affect and have either a positive
Speaker 1: or negative effect on our reality. And I'd like to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on the potential we could have if
Speaker 1: we can implement the use of language and music and
Speaker 1: sound in a way that would benefit us and be
Speaker 1: more aware of how we're using it again, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And I think it's all about that awareness
Speaker 4: because once we bring that awareness into our craft, then
Speaker 4: we can craft our spells a lot more effectively for
Speaker 4: the positive. When I first started looking into etymology, it
Speaker 4: was kind of like it blew my mind. I was like,
Speaker 4: holy shit, I can't believe that I've never thought about this,
Speaker 4: you know, And I've been writing lyrics, writ in rhymes
Speaker 4: writing stories using these words my whole life. And it
Speaker 4: wasn't until fairly recently, just through some podcasts, that I
Speaker 4: kind of got on the etymology tip, and since then
Speaker 4: I've been looking into it. And you know, at first,
Speaker 4: it was it was kind of like scary, like, oh man,
Speaker 4: all these words are being used against us and to
Speaker 4: manipulate us, and we're saying these things every day that
Speaker 4: are you know, disempowering us.
Speaker 3: And I think that that does exist.
Speaker 4: And if you look at some of the most common
Speaker 4: things that we say, you know, day to day, and
Speaker 4: then you look at the origins of these words, it
Speaker 4: does seem like there was some sort of a you know,
Speaker 4: concerted effort to twist language and manipulate it and pervert
Speaker 4: it into a way that disempowers us. However, I do
Speaker 4: think that there is another more positive way to look
Speaker 4: at this, which is that we're constantly rewriting language. We're
Speaker 4: constantly developing new meanings for words. So you know, you
Speaker 4: could have this phrase that has been twisted to use
Speaker 4: against this, well, we can just flip that back in
Speaker 4: the other direction and we can use it for the
Speaker 4: positive if we'd like. And you know, really there's there's
Speaker 4: no limits in terms of how we can use these
Speaker 4: words and how we can change the definitions of words
Speaker 4: over time. So I, you know, I got into a
Speaker 4: conversation with someone, uh talking specifically about etymology, and I
Speaker 4: was asking them, you know uh, And the person I
Speaker 4: was speaking with, he's a hip hop artist that goes
Speaker 4: by Illuminati Congo. I think he'd be a really great
Speaker 4: interview for you. If if anybody hasn't heard of him,
Speaker 4: go check out his music. It's it's some really inspirational
Speaker 4: stuff and he's just such a wealth of information.
Speaker 3: But he gave us. He gave a talk on etymology
Speaker 3: at the Greater Reset conference in Mexico that I was
Speaker 3: just attending and playing music at. And I asked him.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, what do you think about
Speaker 4: the fact that all these words that we use for
Speaker 4: saying something's good seem kind of negative? So like we'll
Speaker 4: say that's sick, or that's killer, wicked or badass you know,
Speaker 4: or dope. You know, all these words it seem pretty negative,
Speaker 4: and we are using them to describe good things, like
Speaker 4: isn't that bad? And his response is really interesting. He's saying,
Speaker 4: you could look at it that way, but you could
Speaker 4: also look at it as you know, we are taking
Speaker 4: this bad word and making it positive. And you know,
Speaker 4: even if maybe there was someone pulling strings behind the scenes,
Speaker 4: being like, oh, I'm gonna I'm going to try to
Speaker 4: get people to say, you know, killer and wicked all
Speaker 4: the time and make them think that that's a good word.
Speaker 3: A lot of us don't know that.
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of us are just taking this
Speaker 4: negative word and making it positive. And I think you
Speaker 4: do see examples of that throughout history. So yeah, with
Speaker 4: the etymology, I think it's it is very fascinating to
Speaker 4: kind of look into like how words have been twisted
Speaker 4: and to be careful and just be aware with how
Speaker 4: we speak and the words that we're choosing, and especially
Speaker 4: if we're an artist, you know, putting that out. We
Speaker 4: have a responsibility. You know, I'm not just writing these
Speaker 4: lyrics for myself. I'm writing these lyrics to share with
Speaker 4: the world. So given that, I feel like I have
Speaker 4: a responsibility to choose my words carefully. And the way
Speaker 4: that I write now is very different than the way
Speaker 4: that I wrote back when I was just starting and
Speaker 4: nobody was really hearing it. And sometimes I look back
Speaker 4: at some of the stuff I wrote back in the day,
Speaker 4: and it's kind of embarrassing and I wish maybe I
Speaker 4: didn't use those words or you know, take those choices
Speaker 4: with my language. But yeah, I think that's kind of
Speaker 4: where my head's at right now with with etymologies. It's
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's a story that we're still writing.
Speaker 4: And and just another example, I'll throw out one of
Speaker 4: my favorite artists, Alex Gray.
Speaker 3: Some people might be familiar with him.
Speaker 4: His his logo is the all Seeing Eye, and people
Speaker 4: have kind of come at him and been like, what
Speaker 4: are you doing? Why are you putting out this all
Speaker 4: seeing eye you know as your logo. That's that's an
Speaker 4: evil logo. And in his response is nobody owns that symbol,
Speaker 4: Like like, I can use the symbol for good if
Speaker 4: I want. Just because I use this symbol doesn't mean
Speaker 4: that I'm you know, subscribing to you know, the evil,
Speaker 4: dark occult nature of the symbol.
Speaker 3: They don't own it.
Speaker 4: You know, I can use that, And I feel I
Speaker 4: feel the same way about words, you know, and doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that I'm not being careful with the words that
Speaker 4: I'm choosing. But I don't think anybody owns these words
Speaker 4: I don't think any of these definitions are set in stone,
Speaker 4: and I'm just trying to take a more like open
Speaker 4: ended look at etymology. But it is very fascinating to
Speaker 4: look at how how the words have been perverted over time.
Speaker 1: And I was talking earlier about this very thing with
Speaker 1: my girlfriend. If you look at certain angles of this
Speaker 1: that there's a possibility that the collective may have an
Speaker 1: effect if the collective feels a certain way about a
Speaker 1: certain word. But we're trying to just like you say,
Speaker 1: take that word back or put a more positive spin
Speaker 1: on it, but it fails to have that effect on
Speaker 1: the majority of people. Does this word have I still
Speaker 1: have a negative or positive effect?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Does it still depend on the intent that you have
Speaker 1: behind it. It makes me think of the Emoto water
Speaker 1: experiments and how much of just the word that we're
Speaker 1: saying is causing these molecules in the water to behave
Speaker 1: a certain way or is it the intent behind the
Speaker 1: word that's really affecting the molecules. What do you think
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: I love those studies and yeah, I'm a big believer
Speaker 4: in that. You know, I've got a sign on my
Speaker 4: wall in my room that I see every morning when
Speaker 4: I wake up, it just says smile, because just by smiling,
Speaker 4: you're triggering all these you know, muscles in your face,
Speaker 4: and just saying something like the word beautiful, you know,
Speaker 4: resonates throughout your entire body.
Speaker 3: So I'm a big fan of that.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm always trying to give myself and others
Speaker 4: positive affirmations. I think even in the conversations that we have,
Speaker 4: you know, we can use these tools to really lift
Speaker 4: people up. And and just by walking around every day smiling,
Speaker 4: you know, like that's resonating the same way that a
Speaker 4: positive word is resonating in the water. But it's very
Speaker 4: fascinating when you look into those studies and also just somatics,
Speaker 4: you know, different frequencies. There's some really cool technology that's
Speaker 4: coming out. I don't know if people have heard about
Speaker 4: vibroacoustic sound tables, but my buddy makes these tables and
Speaker 4: it's basically like a massage table that you lay on
Speaker 4: and there's speakers embedded into the table and these speakers
Speaker 4: will resonate healing frequencies while you're wearing headphones and it's
Speaker 4: a full body immersive experience and it's actually restructuring the
Speaker 4: water in your body and all of your cells and
Speaker 4: all you know, the liquid that would be you know,
Speaker 4: in tune with somatic frequencies. So it's really cool to
Speaker 4: see what some people are doing with sound healing. I'm
Speaker 4: pretty big in the sound healing community. And you know,
Speaker 4: even something as simple as as a tuning fork or
Speaker 4: a singing bowl used with the right intention and the
Speaker 4: right frequencies has immense power to heal us restructure our systems.
Speaker 4: And words do that too, so I'm always trying to
Speaker 4: think about that, not just in my music, but in
Speaker 4: my daily life.
Speaker 1: Now, You've also had some a few unexplained or what
Speaker 1: you might consider paranormal experiences.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, I have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to hear about some of those.
Speaker 3: For sure, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I went pretty much my whole life without any
Speaker 4: paranormal experiences, and I was getting to the point where
Speaker 4: I was like, man, like, am I not worthy? Or
Speaker 4: does this just not exist? Like what's going on here?
Speaker 4: And I had my first, my first big one. I
Speaker 4: was with a bunch of people camping out and we
Speaker 4: saw a massive craft and this was proceeded by some
Speaker 4: very synchronous to conversations where we were talking about seeing orbs,
Speaker 4: and there was a drum circle going on where people
Speaker 4: were trying to call in the spirits, and then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden we saw this massive craft and nobody
Speaker 4: could explain it. There's probably fifty people there at this
Speaker 4: camp out, and it was kind of like a freedom
Speaker 4: festival during the COVID era. So that felt right, you know,
Speaker 4: like the whoever was up in the craft was kind
Speaker 4: of coming to let us know that we were doing
Speaker 4: a good job with the movement that we were starting
Speaker 4: down there. So that was really cool, just because it was,
Speaker 4: you know, a bunch of people all seeing this thing together.
Speaker 4: It seemed very synchronistic. But that wasn't the craziest one.
Speaker 4: A couple months later, I was at home and it
Speaker 4: was during the big Persed meteor shower. So every August,
Speaker 4: the second weekend in August, if you go outside and
Speaker 4: look at the sky, you will see meteors. It's incredible.
Speaker 4: I've seen some of the coolest shooting starts during that time,
Speaker 4: and I was hoping to see some shooting stars. So
Speaker 4: I went out on my porch, standing out there fifteen
Speaker 4: twenty minutes, didn't really see anything, and I realized I
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I can't just walk out
Speaker 4: here expecting to see shooting stars. I got to put
Speaker 4: a little intention into it, you know, I gotta really
Speaker 4: want it. So I did something that I don't do
Speaker 4: too often. I said a little prayer, and I don't
Speaker 4: remember exactly what I said, but I set a prayer
Speaker 4: and I looked up and as soon as I look
Speaker 4: up at the sky, I see this little shooting star.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that's kind of cool. I wonder if
Speaker 3: the prayer brought that on.
Speaker 4: And then right after that, I see this light in
Speaker 4: the woods. So I'm living on like a twenty acre
Speaker 4: property and I see this glowing light in the trees,
Speaker 4: and you know, it's very far from the road, it's
Speaker 4: very far from the house. It's clearly on our property.
Speaker 4: And this light just starts rising up out of the trees,
Speaker 4: up above the tree line and then just flies directly
Speaker 4: at me.
Speaker 3: And it was just a large, glowing white orb. It
Speaker 3: flew right over me, over the house.
Speaker 4: It was probably only about fifteen feet above my head
Speaker 4: at its closest point, you know, coming from a couple
Speaker 4: hundred feet away in the woods, rising up, flying directly
Speaker 4: over me, and you know, it really felt like it
Speaker 4: was something that was conscious. It didn't feel mechanical. It
Speaker 4: was just this glowing, silent, you know, ball of light,
Speaker 4: but it felt like it had some consciousness to it.
Speaker 4: That said, I was terrified, honestly, like I was not
Speaker 4: prepared for that.
Speaker 3: I was. I was freaked out, you know, my paranoid
Speaker 3: mine started asking questions like, oh my god, was that
Speaker 3: like some government drone spying on me? Like what the
Speaker 3: hell was that? So I went into my room.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to calm myself down, you know, basically,
Speaker 4: just trying to convince myself that this wasn't a bad thing,
Speaker 4: you know, that this was this was a good thing.
Speaker 4: I really wanted to believe that this was positive. And
Speaker 4: then I realized that it was my dad's birthday. And
Speaker 4: my dad had passed about twelve years prior, and it
Speaker 4: would have been his sixtieth birthday right at that moment. Actually,
Speaker 4: when I saw it, it was ten pm in the
Speaker 4: Pacific Northwest, which means it would have been midnight the
Speaker 4: day of his birth in the Midwest. And that really
Speaker 4: shook me because I realized that it was my dad's
Speaker 4: spirit coming back. I think sometimes spirits will take the
Speaker 4: form of these orbs to manifest in this dimension. And
Speaker 4: I haven't had another encounter since, but I do go
Speaker 4: outside the last two years, I've went outside at that
Speaker 4: same time, you know, hoping that maybe that orb might
Speaker 4: come back. But it was a very powerful experience, and
Speaker 4: you know, it really just felt like I was I
Speaker 4: was connecting with the spirit of my father in that experience.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's pretty crazy when you share these
Speaker 4: stories with people. A lot of people have stories of
Speaker 4: their own, and when it happened, I was just like,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm not afraid to tell people about this. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna tell everyone about this, and I started telling everyone.
Speaker 4: You know, it was the first thing on my mind
Speaker 4: for for a while. You know, I was so excited
Speaker 4: to share this experience with others, and just the way
Speaker 4: that it was received and the amount of other people
Speaker 4: that opened up to me about their experiences was really cool. So,
Speaker 4: you know, just a word to anyone that's that's had
Speaker 4: these experiences, don't be afraid to to tell others, because
Speaker 4: chances are they have some story that they're just waiting
Speaker 4: to tell you. So, you know, that's that's probably been
Speaker 4: my most powerful experiences, like in this realm. But I've
Speaker 4: also had some pretty interesting experiences in the spirit realm
Speaker 4: working with medicine.
Speaker 1: But that what do you what are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the possibilities that not all, but a lot of what
Speaker 1: we consider paranormal activity, A lot of what people experience
Speaker 1: said are unexplained or profound spiritual experiences, is really just
Speaker 1: a form of synchronisticism for ourselves, for our own personal growth,
Speaker 1: for our own personal development. Like you said, it was
Speaker 1: your past father that you believe that might have been
Speaker 1: manifesting to you in that moment. Well, what if a
Speaker 1: lot of what we are experiencing is even you know,
Speaker 1: we're understanding as extraterrestrials or craft in the sky or
Speaker 1: things like this is just a form of our own guidance,
Speaker 1: our either higher self or the universe guiding us in
Speaker 1: a certain way, throwing us synchronicities and and strange, unexplained
Speaker 1: events that we can then take and use to motivate
Speaker 1: us for spiritual growth.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I love that idea, and I definitely felt a shift,
Speaker 4: you know, in my own life when that happened. It
Speaker 4: was almost like you know, now I know somebody's watching
Speaker 4: out for me. That feeling that you have some kind
Speaker 4: of like guardian angel or something like that. That was
Speaker 4: really the feeling I got from that. And you know, I,
Speaker 4: on one level feel bad for people that haven't had
Speaker 4: these experiences, but maybe they're just not putting in the
Speaker 4: work to call that into their life, and maybe that's
Speaker 4: not really what they need, you know, for their own
Speaker 4: personal evolution. I, you know, have spent a lot of
Speaker 4: time looking into this sort of thing, trying to call
Speaker 4: it into my life and not even really knowing exactly
Speaker 4: what I was calling in, but just kind of seeking
Speaker 4: some kind of experience that, you know, I could look
Speaker 4: at as proof that these types of things do happen
Speaker 4: and they do exist, because you know, as much as
Speaker 4: you want to believe something, as much as something resonates
Speaker 4: and makes sense, until it actually happens to you, it's
Speaker 4: really hard to look at that phenomenon and be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I for sure, one hundred percent believe that, and then
Speaker 4: you have the experience and it totally changes you for sure,
Speaker 4: And it's not necessarily the kind of thing that I
Speaker 4: want to happen every day.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I look at some these people like like Ryan bloodsoe,
Speaker 4: you know, and that whole family that are just getting
Speaker 4: visited by orbs every night, and I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm ready for that, but but
Speaker 4: maybe you know who knows, And I'm totally open to,
Speaker 4: you know, whatever spirit wants to send my way. And
Speaker 4: I do really believe that there's a you know, some
Speaker 4: kind of force that's that's putting things in our lives. Synchronicities,
Speaker 4: to me, are a great example of that. I really
Speaker 4: like to look at little synchronicities as knobs from the universe,
Speaker 4: you know, whatever we want to defind the universe as.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, I definitely feel feel where you're coming
Speaker 4: from with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like you were saying earlier, what we're about
Speaker 1: to get into psychedelics a little bit. Whenever I had
Speaker 1: my plant medicine experiences. This is pretty much some of
Speaker 1: the only times that I've experienced what I consider a
Speaker 1: worldly or paranormal besides my initial meditative experience where I
Speaker 1: made contact with my spirit guides. But I've had very
Speaker 1: profound experiences. I have come to understand that in my
Speaker 1: in my belief that we are accessing something that is
Speaker 1: beyond our perception that, depending on our intent, can guide
Speaker 1: us in certain ways. Use I've used them as a
Speaker 1: therapeutic tool, and the way I approach psychedelics in general
Speaker 1: is much different than when I used to Whenever I
Speaker 1: was growing up, it used to be just, you know,
Speaker 1: a fun thing to do, and now it's a spiritual tool.
Speaker 1: It's approached with very much respect. And it's come to
Speaker 1: a point to where I used to grow mushrooms, I
Speaker 1: don't anymore, and I haven't actually done them in a while.
Speaker 1: It's been quite a few months, and it's been it's
Speaker 1: come to a point to where they will just actually
Speaker 1: come to me. If it's time for me to have
Speaker 1: an experience, They'll just somehow show up on my doorstep.
Speaker 1: A friend will bring them over, magically appear somehow. It
Speaker 1: just happens like that now. Whenever I am supposed to
Speaker 1: have experience, or I have to work out something or
Speaker 1: childhood trauma or anything that I need to therapeutically work out,
Speaker 1: the mushrooms magically appear for me somehow. So that's become
Speaker 1: like this intertwined spiritual thing between me and plant medicines.
Speaker 1: And I'd love to hear about some of yours because
Speaker 1: the audience has probably heard about mine way too many times,
Speaker 1: So I'd love to hear about some of the profound
Speaker 1: experiences you've had.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely so. I also discovered psilocybin mushrooms back when
Speaker 4: I was in high school. You know, for for a while,
Speaker 4: those were kind of the only psychedelic experiences I was
Speaker 4: having other than cannabis. I think that a lot of
Speaker 4: times people forget cannabis is very psychedelic when used in
Speaker 4: the right way. And then, you know, during my twenties,
Speaker 4: I was getting a little bit more into LSD and
Speaker 4: also kind of using it more just as a recreational thing,
Speaker 4: you know, going to concerts and that sort of thing,
Speaker 4: but you know, always knowing that there was this greater potential.
Speaker 4: And then once I once I first heard about d
Speaker 4: MT and read Rick Strassman's book, it kind of quickly
Speaker 4: became like the only thing I could think about, like
Speaker 4: just like was endlessly fascinated with this molecule. And then
Speaker 4: I found out about ayahuasca, and you know, just started
Speaker 4: doing these deep dives and trying to learn as much
Speaker 4: as I possibly could about this mysterious brew and the
Speaker 4: history of its usage, and uh, the you know, the
Speaker 4: healing power that people had discovered more recently, and it
Speaker 4: was one of those things where I kind of just
Speaker 4: instantly knew that I had to have this experience, not
Speaker 4: so much that I, you know, signed up for a
Speaker 4: retreat right away. It actually took me seven years to
Speaker 4: work up the courage, uh to to go down to
Speaker 4: Costa Rica and participate and sit in a ceremony. But
Speaker 4: that was probably one of the one of the biggest
Speaker 4: pivotal moments in my life, was sitting with ayahuasca, and
Speaker 4: you know it was it was quite terrifying, uh but
Speaker 4: also incredibly healing, and you know, so much so that
Speaker 4: like I almost didn't want to do it.
Speaker 3: The second time.
Speaker 4: I went down and signed up for two ceremonies, and
Speaker 4: the first night just shook me so hard that I
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know if I can do this again.
Speaker 4: You know, I feel like this this might like fuck
Speaker 4: me up or I might go crazy. You know, you
Speaker 4: have all these uh these crazy ideas about you know,
Speaker 4: maybe you could do some damage, uh, you know by
Speaker 4: by going so deep, but just intuitively knew that the
Speaker 4: healing power was there and that the spear of this
Speaker 4: plant was going to give me exactly what I needed
Speaker 4: and maybe not what I expected and maybe not you know,
Speaker 4: what I wanted or what I had heard about other
Speaker 4: people having, but it was going to give me exactly
Speaker 4: what I needed and through that process, you know, now,
Speaker 4: I've sat in six ceremonies over the last five years,
Speaker 4: so it's not a super frequent thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It's actually been about a year and a half since
Speaker 4: my last one, and I'm not sure when the next
Speaker 4: one will be, but I do feel like I will continue,
Speaker 4: you know, having this communion with the Spirit, probably for
Speaker 4: the rest of my life. And the big thing that
Speaker 4: I've gotten from it is just a lot more self love.
Speaker 4: That's kind of like the overwhelming message that I get
Speaker 4: from the Spirit is to just not be so hard
Speaker 4: on myself and to really appreciate the person that I am,
Speaker 4: to recognize that other people appreciate the person.
Speaker 3: That I am.
Speaker 4: I think that we have this very strong inner judge
Speaker 4: that can be amplified or diminished with these substances depending
Speaker 4: on how we use them. But when used in the
Speaker 4: right way, I think that they really do kind of
Speaker 4: show us our our path, our purpose, you know, help
Speaker 4: us steer our lives in the right direction, you know,
Speaker 4: show us things that we need to work on. And
Speaker 4: a lot of times it's it's stuff that you know
Speaker 4: that you need to work on. You know, it's it's
Speaker 4: doesn't come as a surprise that'll say, hey, you need
Speaker 4: to change this in your life, you need to change that.
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I've I've been told many things
Speaker 4: by the spirit of ayahuasca that I need to work
Speaker 4: on in my life that we're quite obvious, and I
Speaker 4: just I just needed to hear that in that setting. So,
Speaker 4: you know, I also use psychedelics a lot less frequently now.
Speaker 4: I used to use them quite frequently, and now I
Speaker 4: just don't feel like I need it all the time.
Speaker 4: And it's it's not that thing where it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, you only need one like.
Speaker 3: But some people maybe they do. Maybe some people don't
Speaker 3: need it at all. I mean, I know some people
Speaker 3: that are very you know, spiritually evolved that seemed to
Speaker 3: do just fine.
Speaker 1: Well. I have to honestly say, when I first did
Speaker 1: LSD at the age of like sixteen, the day after,
Speaker 1: my whole perspective on the world and everything was completely different.
Speaker 1: There had been something that had shifted that made me
Speaker 1: see things a slightly more spiritual and mystical manner than
Speaker 1: I did before, and I think that thanks to that,
Speaker 1: it actually helped along in a certain way the path
Speaker 1: that I went on after that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, I feel the same way.
Speaker 4: And yeah, even when I was younger, I was just
Speaker 4: fascinated by the idea of having these experiences and kind
Speaker 4: of knew that it was something that I needed to experience.
Speaker 4: But you know, I think it is important to recognize
Speaker 4: kind of like the cultural influences that exist. And you know,
Speaker 4: something I've I've noticed recently, I feel like we're entering
Speaker 4: some new MK Ultra three point zero phase where, you know,
Speaker 4: psychedelics are becoming legalized, and inevitably a lot of people
Speaker 4: are going to use these powerful tools in the wrong way.
Speaker 4: Not saying that you know, I know the right way
Speaker 4: or you know, you've got to do it this way.
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of, you know, agorism, voluntarism, letting
Speaker 4: people make their own decisions. However, I do get a
Speaker 4: little bit concerned sometimes about, you know, how these things
Speaker 4: are creeping into the mainstream and just the you know,
Speaker 4: the casual nature that a lot of people are going
Speaker 4: to be using these substances. And it's kind of funny
Speaker 4: because like I don't I don't get a whole lot
Speaker 4: of ads. I you know, I use like a Brave browser,
Speaker 4: and you know, I don't get many pop ups. But
Speaker 4: when I'm on like Instagram or you know, when I'm
Speaker 4: when I'm on certain sites where I do get ads,
Speaker 4: I'm getting all these ads for psychedelic therapy and like
Speaker 4: open your own ketemene clinic. And it's like, why does
Speaker 4: Instagram want me to open my own ketemine clinics so bad?
Speaker 3: You know, like there's something that's not right here. And
Speaker 3: it's cool.
Speaker 4: Like, don't get me wrong, I appreciate the fact that
Speaker 4: you know, now we can have these conversations in the open,
Speaker 4: and now there's a whole new, you know, business that's
Speaker 4: been created for people that want to provide these healing services.
Speaker 4: But there's also like a lot of other stuff happening
Speaker 4: at the same time that I think is worth looking
Speaker 4: into and just questioning, you know, just why why now
Speaker 4: is this all happening? And then you look at the
Speaker 4: history of you know, mk ultra and how LSD and
Speaker 4: a lot of these other psychedelics were used, and I
Speaker 4: think we just need to be careful with how how
Speaker 4: we're bringing them into our lives, you know, and how
Speaker 4: we're bringing them into our communities. And you know, I
Speaker 4: think a lot of good stuff is happening. I'm really
Speaker 4: excited by a lot of the stuff I see, especially
Speaker 4: with like underground practitioners, people that are providing these things
Speaker 4: outside of the system. But then I see, you know,
Speaker 4: it's going to be five thousand dollars for MDMA therapy
Speaker 4: and you can only get it for maps, and you know,
Speaker 4: I think that's that's suspect on some level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is very concerning things going on with the
Speaker 1: relationship between Silicon Valley and psychedelics and a lot of
Speaker 1: the technological advancements and pharmaceuticals and corporation interest in psychedelics
Speaker 1: a lot that's coinciding with legalization in many places. So
Speaker 1: you're right, there seems to be this nefarious aspect, But
Speaker 1: I think that's across the board with anything with any
Speaker 1: type of powerful medication, plant medicine. They're going to try
Speaker 1: and weaponize it or use it in the farious ways
Speaker 1: in some manner, as long as there's pharmaceutical companies, as
Speaker 1: long as it can be utilized in these ways, and
Speaker 1: as long as there are evil in nefarious people, they're
Speaker 1: going to find a way to take these substances and
Speaker 1: use them in a negative way. So I think it's
Speaker 1: just up to us to educate ourselves and be discerning
Speaker 1: about how we go about using these And I always
Speaker 1: say I never recommend psychedelics to anyone. This is something
Speaker 1: that you would have to make your own decisions about,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that they are for everyone. I
Speaker 1: think that it is something that is should be on
Speaker 1: an individual basis and you should decide for yourself whether
Speaker 1: they're good for you, and always start small if you're
Speaker 1: going to So, yeah, there are definitely some concerning things
Speaker 1: going on in those realms, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 4: And I think people can just kind of set themselves
Speaker 4: up for success in those in that department. You know,
Speaker 4: if you decide you do want to take a journey, know,
Speaker 4: there's lots of lots of great research and advice on
Speaker 4: how to curate that experience, you know, down to the
Speaker 4: music and the lighting, and you know, the food and
Speaker 4: you know, liquids that you put in your body. You know,
Speaker 4: if you're if you're just eating mushrooms and watching Netflix,
Speaker 4: you're you're probably not going to have a very transformative journey.
Speaker 4: And once again, I don't want to say I know
Speaker 4: the right way how to do these things, but I think, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, there's there's a lot of truth to the
Speaker 4: set and setting. And that's why I really appreciate, like
Speaker 4: the ceremonial context of the Ayahuasca ceremonies because even if
Speaker 4: it's something that's been tailored towards Westerners, you know, maybe
Speaker 4: they took these indigenous traditions and adapted them to you know,
Speaker 4: make them, you know, more useful to people who might
Speaker 4: not speak the Spanish language, or you know, people that
Speaker 4: are coming from a different place and just trying to
Speaker 4: you know, connect with the spirit, but maybe not willing
Speaker 4: to go spend you know, two weeks in the rainforest
Speaker 4: and you know, get bit by a bunch of mosquitoes.
Speaker 4: I think that it is important to remember there's lots
Speaker 4: of different ways to have these experiences and as long
Speaker 4: as it's rooted with the right intention and you know,
Speaker 4: as long as somebody is there holding the space. You know,
Speaker 4: I've done a lot of psychedelics by myself, but there's
Speaker 4: certain things that I really like having a more skilled
Speaker 4: experience facilitator involved with and I don't think I would
Speaker 4: really want to drink ayahuasca by myself. I think you're
Speaker 4: opening up a portal to another dimension. And if you
Speaker 4: don't open up that portal correctly, you know, with the
Speaker 4: with the right experience, you could open it up to
Speaker 4: some some messed up stuff. And there there are a
Speaker 4: lot of people that you know, we'll get hijacked in
Speaker 4: different ways and you know, their their energy will get
Speaker 4: will get sucked out of them, you know, just by
Speaker 4: by sitting with the wrong person. So you know, it's
Speaker 4: it's kind of like you got to follow your intuition
Speaker 4: with that one.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I wish there was like just like a website that
Speaker 4: you go to that that ranked shamans, but we don't.
Speaker 3: We don't really have that right now.
Speaker 4: So just you know, just make sure you're putting in
Speaker 4: the work, if if you are going to have these experiences,
Speaker 4: and know that that work that you put on setting
Speaker 4: your intention you know, before you have the experience, and
Speaker 4: then also the integration after the experience will make it
Speaker 4: a lot more beneficial. And that's that's definitely something that
Speaker 4: I'm always trying to encourage in others. You know when
Speaker 4: they when they tell me that they're they're ready to
Speaker 4: have this experience and that they think that it's it's
Speaker 4: the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, let's talk about the the stranger or darker
Speaker 1: side of psychedelics, where I believe that you are engaging
Speaker 1: with other realms, where you're opening up some sort of
Speaker 1: portal or doorway to a different intelligences, to different frequencies,
Speaker 1: to different realms, and that these whatever these intelligences are,
Speaker 1: they in turn have the ability to interact with us.
Speaker 1: And if we're not careful, if we don't have the
Speaker 1: right intention, and if we don't approach this in the
Speaker 1: right way, it that it can be dangerous. And I've
Speaker 1: talked about some of these experiences recently, from my friend
Speaker 1: Reclu's having an experience where he saw gray aliens that
Speaker 1: were observing him and wondering why they could see him
Speaker 1: at a child's birthday party, to my own experience where
Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend shape shifted into a reptilian looking demon
Speaker 1: or something in my whole perception change and I ended
Speaker 1: up puking up black goo and it was like some
Speaker 1: kind of possession experience. So they have that side of
Speaker 1: it that you have to watch out for. I believe
Speaker 1: that we are definitely interacting with intelligences that are outside
Speaker 1: of our ourselves, and there are many other brilliant researchers
Speaker 1: like Graham Hancock that believe this is occurring as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think that's so important. Uh. And something
Speaker 3: that often goes undiscussed is just how how strange and
Speaker 3: weird some of these experiences can be. Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, with the popularization of these, you know, medicinal treatments, it's, uh,
Speaker 4: it's kind of being framed as this this very you know,
Speaker 4: happy go lucky, like we're all just gonna heal and
Speaker 4: we're not really talking so much about this this dark side.
Speaker 4: And you know, deep within us all we all have
Speaker 4: the potential for the greatest good and the worst evil,
Speaker 4: you know, like like we all have that inside of us,
Speaker 4: and you know, throughout our lives will align with one
Speaker 4: side or the other. Maybe we'll just stay in the middle.
Speaker 4: But you know, for those of us who are coming
Speaker 4: to these experiences trying to bring the light in, we
Speaker 4: will encounter the darkness in that process. We will encounter
Speaker 4: our own shadow self. We will encounter all of the
Speaker 4: worst potential, you know, that exists, and by seeing that,
Speaker 4: we're able to choose the other. You know, until you
Speaker 4: see the dark, you don't know how to choose the light.
Speaker 4: So that's something that I think is really important to discuss,
Speaker 4: especially as many more people are having these experiences, is
Speaker 4: to just kind of prepare people and say like, hey,
Speaker 4: just so you know, it's gonna get really weird. It's
Speaker 4: gonna get strange. You're not gonna be able to explain it.
Speaker 4: It might feel like some kind of possession. You know,
Speaker 4: it might feel like you're going crazy. These are real
Speaker 4: things that happen, and it doesn't mean that you shouldn't
Speaker 4: have the experience, but to just be aware that that
Speaker 4: is part of it, and you know, by keeping your
Speaker 4: dosage lower, I think that you can avoid some of
Speaker 4: those things. Like if you're just microdosing, you're probably not
Speaker 4: gonna have have, you know, a super crazy, scary experience,
Speaker 4: and maybe you're not, you're not looking for that. But
Speaker 4: when you get into the macrodosies, when you get into
Speaker 4: you know, larger amounts of some of these substances, it
Speaker 4: will get dark at times. And if you've, if you've
Speaker 4: figured out a way to avoid that, please let me
Speaker 4: know how to do that because for me, it seems
Speaker 4: like it's unavoidable and you know, often makes it like
Speaker 4: makes you question whether or not it's worth having these experiences.
Speaker 4: But I do think it's very important to tap in
Speaker 4: and to see what potential exists so that we're able
Speaker 4: to inform our choices. And you know, in terms of
Speaker 4: like actual entities, like you know, good, good and evil
Speaker 4: entities existing in these realms. I totally believe that that exists.
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think that they have power over us
Speaker 4: unless we give that to them. However, if we're if
Speaker 4: we're using these substances irresponsibly, then I think we are
Speaker 4: opening ourselves up to the more negative side. So it's
Speaker 4: definitely super important to me to be careful with those
Speaker 4: experiences and to you know, just be aware that we're
Speaker 4: working with forces much greater than ourselfs and but also
Speaker 4: force us that exist within ourselves, Like we are these
Speaker 4: very powerful entities, and nobody can just no spirit can
Speaker 4: just take us over, you know, without us us giving
Speaker 4: them that ability. So yeah, thank you for bringing that up,
Speaker 4: because I think it's a really important thing that often
Speaker 4: goes undiscussed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Yeah, and one more thing, to the the
Speaker 1: the to the good side of psychedelics. For me, the
Speaker 1: best part of it was those horrifying experiences, because without those,
Speaker 1: I couldn't have grown. For me, they have been the
Speaker 1: best therapeutic tool that I could have ever had. I
Speaker 1: think I've accomplished more with magic mushrooms than I could
Speaker 1: have ever accomplished with years of any type of therapy.
Speaker 1: What it did for me was take some of the
Speaker 1: deepest and darkest and most suppressed either memories or issues
Speaker 1: or problems or emotions that I wasn't dealing with and
Speaker 1: bringing them to my attention. And it wasn't necessarily things
Speaker 1: that I wanted to do. It was the things that
Speaker 1: I needed to deal with the most, And for me,
Speaker 1: that was the most profound part about psychedelics. So, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's not for everyone, I don't think, but I think
Speaker 1: that they can be a very powerful tool for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Now, for the last few minutes that
Speaker 1: we have, I want to get into another talking point.
Speaker 2: You have.
Speaker 1: You have some theories on past lives and reincarnation and
Speaker 1: why we forget our past lives. I've let to hear that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, this is a fun one. So I've spent
Speaker 4: a lot of time looking into reincarnation, you know, to
Speaker 4: the point where I was even like looking at Wikipedia
Speaker 4: to see who died, you know, the day before I
Speaker 4: was born, to see if I could try to find
Speaker 4: out like who I might have reincarnated from.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Obviously realized that that that quest was was probably not
Speaker 4: not going to pan out. And the more that I
Speaker 4: look into it, the more that I feel like we're
Speaker 4: not meant to remember. And you know, it's it's not
Speaker 4: to say that the passway progressions and that sort of
Speaker 4: thing don't still hold weight and that they're not important.
Speaker 4: Definitely not trying to knock on that. However, it does
Speaker 4: seem like there's this overwhelming trend where, you know, people
Speaker 4: know that they are this eternal being that's had all
Speaker 4: these other lives, but they don't remember the lives. So
Speaker 4: why why don't we remember? And I like to use
Speaker 4: this this analogy where it's like, say you were an alien,
Speaker 4: you know, living on another planet, and you had the
Speaker 4: opportunity to incarnate on Earth, and you decided, I want
Speaker 4: to go to Earth because that seems like a place
Speaker 4: where a lot of souls learn important lessons, and I
Speaker 4: want to go down to Earth, would you really want
Speaker 4: to remember where you came from? Because if you if
Speaker 4: you got down to this human body, you know, on Earth,
Speaker 4: and you remember that you came from this other place,
Speaker 4: you wouldn't really be able to fully experience this incarnation,
Speaker 4: this life. So I do think that there's kind of
Speaker 4: some kind of memory wipe that happens, And it doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that we can't still tap into that, but it
Speaker 4: has to do with us making the most of this
Speaker 4: experience and really living in the moment of what we
Speaker 4: have right now. So you know, when I when I
Speaker 4: see things with three carnation where it's like, you know, oh,
Speaker 4: I know that I was the you know, this king
Speaker 4: or queen back in the day, or you know, I
Speaker 4: was this this famous artist back in the day. It's
Speaker 4: like that's cool. But like, I don't know if we're
Speaker 4: supposed to be really trying to figure that out. You know,
Speaker 4: it might just come to you at some point. You
Speaker 4: might just you know, be told in a dream, or
Speaker 4: you know, maybe you do decide to get a pass
Speaker 4: live progression and that reveals some things.
Speaker 3: But as much as I.
Speaker 4: Believe that I have lived other lives, you know, potentially,
Speaker 4: you know, in other realms and other planets. I don't
Speaker 4: necessarily think that I'm supposed to remember that, And and
Speaker 4: I'm cool with that, you know, like I don't. I
Speaker 4: don't need to know.
Speaker 2: To know.
Speaker 4: And so that's that's kind of like where I'm coming
Speaker 4: from with that is it's interesting to me how how
Speaker 4: we all forget and and just trying to understand why,
Speaker 4: and you know, what's the purpose of that that forget forgetting?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And man, a huge new age type of argument is
Speaker 1: our do we choose to come back in a certain
Speaker 1: do we choose a certain life? Do we choose certain
Speaker 1: traumatic events that happened to us? Do we choose everything?
Speaker 1: Is it all laid out in a life review and
Speaker 1: we agree to this before we come or is this
Speaker 1: just an experience that we are it's all by chance,
Speaker 1: it's all based on our choice and all based on
Speaker 1: what decisions we make. What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: I love that idea, man, and I think it it's
Speaker 4: you know, it's fun to ponder that because ultimately it
Speaker 4: gives it gives the day to day a little bit
Speaker 4: more more meaning. But you know, for me, when it
Speaker 4: comes to all these big questions, it's it's really fun
Speaker 4: for me to consider the possibilities. But I've realized it
Speaker 4: doesn't really change how I act in the moment. Like say,
Speaker 4: say I found out that, you know, there was no god,
Speaker 4: or say I found out that there is a god.
Speaker 4: You know, say I found out that aliens exist or
Speaker 4: aliens don't exist. I mean, you take all these big
Speaker 4: questions and whether or not the thing exists or the
Speaker 4: thing doesn't, I feel like I would still kind of
Speaker 4: be living the same life day to day, you know,
Speaker 4: trying to be good to other people that I come
Speaker 4: in contact with, trying to be of service, trying to
Speaker 4: you know, be creative, to grow personally. And you know,
Speaker 4: I think whether or not we are on this soul's
Speaker 4: path where we chose this body and you know, decided
Speaker 4: we had certain certain lessons to learn, or if it
Speaker 4: is more dispased in you know, free will and learning
Speaker 4: along the way, I still feel like I would probably
Speaker 4: be doing the same thing. So I like that idea personally.
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of exciting to think about. And
Speaker 4: that's a lot of times the types of ideas that
Speaker 4: I gravitate towards are the ones that make my life
Speaker 4: more exciting and seem to give it a little bit
Speaker 4: more meaning and purpose. But even if I found out
Speaker 4: there was no meeting or purpose in life, I think
Speaker 4: I would still be making this music and having this
Speaker 4: conversation with you. So that's kind of where I'm at
Speaker 4: on all that, right, Man.
Speaker 1: Well, this is fantastic Rhyme Wave. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: do this again. There's so much more that we could
Speaker 1: get into before you head out. Let the audience know
Speaker 1: where they can find your music. Website, social media, all
Speaker 1: the good stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you look online for Rhymewave, r h y
Speaker 4: Me Wave, you'll find all my music. It's on all
Speaker 4: the streaming sites. I try to send people to band camp.
Speaker 4: It's a really cool website that pays musicians the way
Speaker 4: that we should be paid versus all the other sites
Speaker 4: that give you like a fraction of a penny. I
Speaker 4: also have a Patreon where people can support me and
Speaker 4: find some exclusive music on there and hopefully come into
Speaker 4: a city near you. I've been mostly playing shows in
Speaker 4: the Pacific Northwest. I'm finally starting to branch out and
Speaker 4: play in other cities. I've got some festival dates this summer,
Speaker 4: and yeah, really the best thing for me is to
Speaker 4: just check out the music and share it if you
Speaker 4: like it, you know, send it to your friends, say
Speaker 4: what's up and come check out a show if if
Speaker 4: I'm ever in your area.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Yes, I will have those direct links right in the description.
Speaker 1: Just click on that check out the music rhyme.
Speaker 2: WAFE.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We'll definitely do this again in
Speaker 1: the future.
Speaker 3: Thank you man, It's been super fun. Take care of.
Speaker 1: Definitely until next time. Everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
Speaker 1: talk again tomorrow see all. Then, today I want to
Speaker 1: welcome Trevor McGrath. He is a specialist in templar based applications,
Speaker 1: spiritual embodiment, the anatomy of releasing trauma, archio acu sticks,
Speaker 1: frequency healing, music tuning, biotuning, brainwave entertainment, and audio engineering.
Speaker 1: Centering in the field of sound therapy. He runs his
Speaker 1: service Audible Academy, where he takes orders for custom sound
Speaker 1: therapy tracks, tuning people into anything from their favorite cathedrals
Speaker 1: and other sacred sites, different planets and star systems, brainwave patterns, chakras,
Speaker 1: rife frequencies, and more. He is also an enthusiast in
Speaker 1: the lore, history and embodiment metaphors of the Holy Grail. Trevor, welcome,
Speaker 1: How you doing?
Speaker 2: Hey doing good brother? How you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing amazing, man, I can't complain. It's great to
Speaker 1: have you on. Been looking forward to this. We're going
Speaker 1: to get into your research, your insights and work with archaeoacoustics,
Speaker 1: frequency healing, music tuning, biotuning, and much more. Before we
Speaker 1: get into any of this, this is your first time
Speaker 1: on mentality Audio's a little bit about yourself and what
Speaker 1: led you down the path you're on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, to kind of put it in a nutshell,
Speaker 2: I had kind of a spontaneous spiritual experience a few
Speaker 2: years back opened my eyes to a lot. I've always
Speaker 2: been into music production, so I put two and two together.
Speaker 2: I started kind of, you know, figuring out some things
Speaker 2: as far as the math behind music and the ratios,
Speaker 2: and that kind of led me down the rabbit hole
Speaker 2: of you know, sacred toning binural beats, and then later
Speaker 2: into the archaeo acoustics of these different structures, these different
Speaker 2: masonic structures and such. So to put it in a nutshell,
Speaker 2: that's pretty where I'm pretty much where I'm at with
Speaker 2: it right on.
Speaker 1: Well, What were some of the things during your journey
Speaker 1: that you said you had some spontaneous spiritual experience. Could
Speaker 1: you tell us about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I, uh, I turned on this video and
Speaker 2: it was called pineal gland activation and it had this
Speaker 2: geometric visual uh relay with it and uh and a
Speaker 2: frequency with it and and I. If there's anything that
Speaker 2: I could say that really sparked that awakening, it was that.
Speaker 2: And pretty much after after that, it was about a
Speaker 2: week of uh, like like a bliss state. I was
Speaker 2: having a lot of memories, a lot of uh I
Speaker 2: guess clarity, epiphanies. There was just a constant data stream
Speaker 2: of information coming in.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, before this happened, like I pretty much knew
Speaker 2: the concept of the third eye, but that's about as
Speaker 2: metaphysical as I got, you know. And it went from
Speaker 2: that to overnight just delving into uh, you know, the
Speaker 2: depths and.
Speaker 5: Like the shop rose and the spiritual embodiment and and
Speaker 5: so on. So yeah, it was it was pretty it
Speaker 5: was pretty rapid. And like I said, it was that
Speaker 5: first week where it was it was like NonStop.
Speaker 2: I had a lost for life, man, you know. And uh,
Speaker 2: and after that, you know, it tapered, but the it
Speaker 2: tapered off, but the uh, the remnants kind of stuck
Speaker 2: around and it it just inspired me to stay on
Speaker 2: the path right on.
Speaker 1: Well, where should we start with this? I know that
Speaker 1: you have made connections with the concept of Jerusalem and geomancy.
Speaker 1: How does this connect with your work with archaeo acoustics
Speaker 1: in frequency healing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so first we'll get into geomancy. So for anybody
Speaker 2: who doesn't know geomancy, when you break down the word
Speaker 2: geo means earth, nancy means usually to work with or
Speaker 2: in some cases it means devination, right, so to work
Speaker 2: with the divinatory, the aspects of the Earth energy. And
Speaker 2: there are structures and sites that have been built facilitated,
Speaker 2: be it the pyramids all around the world, the Gothic cathedrals,
Speaker 2: the temples such as the Multi Hypogeum on the island
Speaker 2: of Malta, and these structures, each one of them, they
Speaker 2: create a very specific resonance and they're placed in very
Speaker 2: key locations on the Earth. And what these structures can
Speaker 2: do is basically create a like a broadcast for a
Speaker 2: world grid. And ideally this grid is brought about to
Speaker 2: facilitate a harmonic energy for the world right. So to
Speaker 2: tie this in with Jerusalem, the word Jerusalem basically means
Speaker 2: a city of peace or place of peace. So the
Speaker 2: original agenda, I guess you could say, for you know, waight,
Speaker 2: and then this is way back, you know, the original
Speaker 2: agenda of the Knights Templar or the original Freemasons before
Speaker 2: the corruption happened, was to was to create these structures,
Speaker 2: to create this grid to where they can go within
Speaker 2: these structures practice their prayer, chant, rituals, et cetera. And
Speaker 2: those the intentions that are being put out in these
Speaker 2: structures were to be amplified by the structure itself to
Speaker 2: basically kind of imprint that onto the collective consciousness.
Speaker 1: When we're looking at these ancient structures, what were the
Speaker 1: the uses and what were some of the applications that
Speaker 1: our ancient ancestors were using these for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to answer that, it would be it would
Speaker 2: be key probably to start with what they were made of.
Speaker 2: They were usually nine times out of ten made of
Speaker 2: limestone or sandstone. And within these kinds of stone you
Speaker 2: have different forms of calcite based crystals and some trace
Speaker 2: amounts quartz crystal. Now, when you can when you compress
Speaker 2: these crystals, they create something called piezo electricity. So one
Speaker 2: form of compression that can bring this piezo electric charge
Speaker 2: about is just the fact that these stones are sitting
Speaker 2: on top of each other. They're heavy stones, right, So
Speaker 2: that's one form of compression. And then you add to
Speaker 2: that a secondary layer of compression, which is sound. Sound
Speaker 2: is actually air pressure. If you look at a subwarfer,
Speaker 2: it's the best example of that. Really, you see you
Speaker 2: see the pressurization pumping the speaker, right. So the sound
Speaker 2: itself can be the very pressure that compresses the crystals
Speaker 2: in the stones that creates this charge, and this charge
Speaker 2: it can facilitate anything from different levels of healing to
Speaker 2: spiritual experiences. A lot of people who step into these
Speaker 2: structures say, like the cathedrals, you often hear them say,
Speaker 2: you know, they felt like an electricity in the air, right,
Speaker 2: And that's largely what that's from. Another another thing about
Speaker 2: some of these structures is especially certain chambers, and like
Speaker 2: the pyramid, there are certain places in these structures that
Speaker 2: the crips, certain chambers where it is dark beyond what
Speaker 2: you and I typically know is darkness, right. This is
Speaker 2: like the kind of darkness where you can throw as
Speaker 2: many blankets over the window and turn all the lights off,
Speaker 2: and it's still not going to get as dark as
Speaker 2: it gets in these structures. So when you're in a
Speaker 2: place that's this dark, a few things happen, at least
Speaker 2: that we know of. One, the pineal plan begins to
Speaker 2: activate right when the outside lights are off, the inside
Speaker 2: lights turn on. So basically this results in spiritual insight
Speaker 2: spiritual vision. You begin to see things without seeing with
Speaker 2: your two eyes. Another thing that happens is you begin to,
Speaker 2: over time in this degree of darkness, lose touch with
Speaker 2: your three D coordinates right, so up, down, front, and
Speaker 2: back left, right kind of fades away. And when these
Speaker 2: senses start to fade, you could say that you, while
Speaker 2: in your waking state, basically step into a layer of
Speaker 2: the astral Right. The astro realm is some of your
Speaker 2: viewers might know, is basically where we go to in
Speaker 2: our dream state, and usually we're asleep while we go there.
Speaker 2: But in these structures, they can facilitate a certain darkness
Speaker 2: and a certain residence to where you can go there
Speaker 2: while you're consciously awake. And the benefits to that is
Speaker 2: kind of like you're steering you're like steering your lucid
Speaker 2: dream in the waking state.
Speaker 1: Essentially, would you say that most of these ancient structures
Speaker 1: were used to induce altered states and for healing and
Speaker 1: for different types of spiritual experiences, like you were saying.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely yeah, as far as altered states, you know,
Speaker 2: if you look at the idea of wavelength, the sound
Speaker 2: or even light you know comes in that s shape.
Speaker 2: So they would make these structures that very specific widths, lengths,
Speaker 2: and these dimensions would would embed the sound waves in
Speaker 2: certain ways to create basically a pulse or a binaral beat,
Speaker 2: which is a frequency that's below what we can hear.
Speaker 2: But these pulses that would happen in these cathedrals, chambers, pyramids, temples,
Speaker 2: they would affect our brain wave patterns.
Speaker 6: So, just to give a quick rundown of that, you
Speaker 6: have delta, beta, alpha, beta, gamma, and these are different
Speaker 6: conscious states that we go through when we're in Typically
Speaker 6: when we're in our raking state, we're in the beta state, right.
Speaker 6: This is kind of the focused state that like you
Speaker 6: and I heard right now as we're having this conversation,
Speaker 6: where where we're somewhat alert when you taper that down
Speaker 6: you get into Alpha, and that's more of a lighter meditation,
Speaker 6: you know, and then when you get into Theta, that's
Speaker 6: kind of the twilight state that that's very deep meditation.
Speaker 2: And this is where you start to access a subconscious mind,
Speaker 2: which is the part of our psyche that really kind
Speaker 2: of steers our whole reality in the background. So to
Speaker 2: tie that in with healing, you know, you can you
Speaker 2: can access your subconscious mind in these structures, not that
Speaker 2: you need to be in it, but they definitely help
Speaker 2: facilitate that to where you know you can you can
Speaker 2: begin to you can become aware basically your your shadow,
Speaker 2: your deeper traumas, and the things that are really at
Speaker 2: the core of you coming to a mental, emotional, and
Speaker 2: eventually physical healing right on.
Speaker 1: Now you have some insights into the the Arc and
Speaker 1: the the Templars relation with that mythos of the Arc.
Speaker 1: Could you tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, So, you know, the Templars got their name
Speaker 2: from their excavation underneath the Temple of Solomon, the Temple
Speaker 2: mount and underneath there there's various different things that it
Speaker 2: said that they have found, and one being the arc.
Speaker 2: So this is a group of knights that originally descended
Speaker 2: from the Grail lineages, the lineage of Jesus and Mary Magdalene,
Speaker 2: and through that they were very wealthy. Initially they were
Speaker 2: from these original bloodlines. But what they ended up doing
Speaker 2: was they ended up giving up all their earthly possessions
Speaker 2: to travel to the Temple, and when they returned, they
Speaker 2: were spontaneously rich again one thousand and fold, so much
Speaker 2: so that it eventually came to be that the King
Speaker 2: of France and even the whole Roman papacy was in
Speaker 2: debt to them. And this eventually led to, you know,
Speaker 2: Friday the thirteenth, thirteen oh seven, when they were rounded
Speaker 2: up and burned at the stake, at least many of them,
Speaker 2: the remnants of them went underground and they took on
Speaker 2: various different other names as the Order. But that's that's
Speaker 2: key in this idea of the arc, because the Arc
Speaker 2: of the Covenant, it can become quite clear that it
Speaker 2: had a capability of transmutation and alchemy.
Speaker 1: Now what's your understanding of what the arc actually was?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go. Okay, So the Ark of
Speaker 2: the Covenant, traditionally people know it from the Bible, from
Speaker 2: you know, Moses went upon molt SINAI got the word
Speaker 2: from God or would some say yahweh, however you feel
Speaker 2: about that name, to construct this box two and a
Speaker 2: half cub its long, one and a half cubit high,
Speaker 2: one and a half cuban width, And this box was
Speaker 2: to hold the Ten commandments. And in this box it
Speaker 2: also held a wafer dish, a dish that had a
Speaker 2: substance in it called mana. So later we come to
Speaker 2: fined through research and rediscoveries such as David Hudson's rediscovery
Speaker 2: monoatomic gold or monoatomic elements with some called ormis. Right,
Speaker 2: So this is basically gold or other platinum group metals
Speaker 2: that are broken from its metallic state. So when an
Speaker 2: element is in its metallic state, it's in a cubic state, right,
Speaker 2: a cubic bond, And this might ring bells with the
Speaker 2: whole cube matrix kind of saddern idea, right, something that's
Speaker 2: fixed in this space time. But through certain our chemical processes,
Speaker 2: you can break that cube bond and break the gold
Speaker 2: atoms back down to where there's singular atoms, and these
Speaker 2: atoms can actually this this substance can be ingested for
Speaker 2: various different health reasons. But the Knights Templar knew so
Speaker 2: much about alchemy that they knew how to take gold
Speaker 2: and break it from its cubic bond into this monoatomic state,
Speaker 2: and vice versa, to basically take the powder, the white
Speaker 2: powdered gold, and return it back to its metallic state,
Speaker 2: which hints a lot at you know, how they became
Speaker 2: so wealthy, and through this arc box, it could basically
Speaker 2: precipitate the white powdered gold from the vacuum of space.
Speaker 2: And that might be a far fetched, kind of far
Speaker 2: out thing for a lot a lot of people to believe.
Speaker 2: But if anybody's a fan of the old French alchemists
Speaker 2: who went by the pen name Folkinelli, they might know that.
Speaker 2: In his book The Mystery of the Cathedrals, he speaks
Speaker 2: of a mysterious white powder that would miraculously accumulate in
Speaker 2: the corners of the cathedrals. Right. So this shows that
Speaker 2: there are certain structures and sounds that can match these
Speaker 2: structures that can affect the space itself in a way
Speaker 2: that it can start to precipitate things from the space.
Speaker 2: And if we look at quantum physics, you know, the
Speaker 2: quantum field and a plank field and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: We see that everything really is coming in and out
Speaker 2: of space like kind of like a pixelation rate right,
Speaker 2: way more than a trillion times a second. So when
Speaker 2: you can tap into this and steer this and realize that,
Speaker 2: you know, all these particle fluctuations are right in front
Speaker 2: of our face at all times, this kind of opens
Speaker 2: the door to what some might even call like a
Speaker 2: magic you know, miraculous manifestation right or and some metaphors
Speaker 2: could be seen as the virgin burnt, you know, So
Speaker 2: so something coming out of nothing. Essentially water had a
Speaker 2: lot to do with it. And the name Mary actually
Speaker 2: means water, so you know, Jesus was born from Mary.
Speaker 2: The Christ's light was born from the water. You see
Speaker 2: this in the book in Genesis. You know where it was.
Speaker 2: You know, first there was the void, and then God
Speaker 2: spoken to the waters, let there be light, and that
Speaker 2: there was the light. So that's kind of a metaphor
Speaker 2: that plays out various different ways in nature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the more the more I hear about different
Speaker 1: spiritual understandings from antiquity and throughout history, the more I
Speaker 1: it makes me believe that the hiddens the most profound.
Speaker 1: The greatest secrets that they are hiding from us are
Speaker 1: the aspects of the abilities for us to heal ourselves,
Speaker 1: the powers of nature and acoustics and sound and energy
Speaker 1: all around us. And like you were just mentioning, there's
Speaker 1: this other state of matter that we haven't discovered yet
Speaker 1: that could be the key to free energy and all
Speaker 1: this stuff seems to be the greatest hidden secret from
Speaker 1: all spiritual texts.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, you bring up energy. One thing about gold,
Speaker 2: you know that, like we tend to often think of
Speaker 2: gold as oh, it's arbitrarily determined to be our source
Speaker 2: of wealth, and you know what is it really? What's
Speaker 2: it based on? Right? Is it just a shiny looking
Speaker 2: cool object. Well, it has many different properties, but one
Speaker 2: as far as healing and even technology and energy is
Speaker 2: the fact that it's a superconductor. So take copper for example. Example,
Speaker 2: copper is a conductor, but when you run energy along
Speaker 2: set copper wire throughout the distance of its t travel,
Speaker 2: it loses its energy. With gold, it loses no energy,
Speaker 2: and that's what makes it a super conductor. So when
Speaker 2: you when you ingest monotomic gold, right, you get that
Speaker 2: quality of super conduction and what that looks like in
Speaker 2: your mind is mental clarity, quicker thinking, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no there's less lag time. And what
Speaker 2: you could even say is you start to shorten the
Speaker 2: time between thought and manifestation. Right, so superconductivity of manifesting
Speaker 2: our thoughts, which could be good or bad, I guess
Speaker 2: really depending on where your head's at. You know, if
Speaker 2: if someone's uh leans more towards being a negative person,
Speaker 2: they might now want to manifest their thoughts so instantly,
Speaker 2: you know, So it depends on where you're at.
Speaker 1: Now, do you do? You know if monotomic gold is
Speaker 1: still being used at any level for any type of
Speaker 1: alchemical prectices in modern day?
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely you can easily extract ormis yourself. There are
Speaker 2: a couple of different ways, and now ormiss is slightly
Speaker 2: different than monoatomic gold only for the reason that it
Speaker 2: has different group platinum group elements in it, and it
Speaker 2: does have monoatomic gold in it. But one way that
Speaker 2: you can extract ormis is simply to mix sea salts
Speaker 2: with washing soda, right, and the appalinity of the washing
Speaker 2: soda well in water. You can do this in just
Speaker 2: a mason jar when you sturd these together. It's usually
Speaker 2: one to one ratio between soda and salt. It'll precipitate
Speaker 2: monoatomic elements and other than that, you basically just wash
Speaker 2: the product that comes from it the precipitate, and then
Speaker 2: you can, you know, you have this substance. That's that's
Speaker 2: a cheap way to do it, you know, and it's
Speaker 2: not the most necessarily potent ways where you're going to
Speaker 2: get one hundred percent of that element. A lot of
Speaker 2: it's going to be calcium, a lot of it's gonna
Speaker 2: be magnesium, but there's going to be certainly a good
Speaker 2: amount that that is monoatomic elements. And one of the
Speaker 2: best salts to use for that is the Dead Sea
Speaker 2: salt because it's the richest salt in the world and
Speaker 2: its gold content.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we could one hundred percent replace our entire
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical industry if we just went back to simple spijerics
Speaker 1: and and and our ancestral alchemy.
Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, absolutely. There's there's so much of of Western medicine,
Speaker 2: or what you call it allopathic medicine, that that is
Speaker 2: really it is. It's all based on nature. We have
Speaker 2: nothing else to pull from other than nature. It's just
Speaker 2: that they took these and they synthesized that, they mixed,
Speaker 2: they chemically cut it, and then they sold us basically
Speaker 2: a stepped on the products, you know, which which it's
Speaker 2: slightly variated from its natural form, so our body doesn't
Speaker 2: recognize it like it should. No, but yeah, you're you're
Speaker 2: absolutely right there. And to kind of step back into
Speaker 2: the sound real quick. Sound is once again it's air pressure,
Speaker 2: and air can move things around. We're made of what
Speaker 2: we think is material, but that material is mostly space,
Speaker 2: so air it can move through us most certainly right
Speaker 2: in these cathedrals, when they would mass the wavelengths of
Speaker 2: the tone to the length of the cathedral, you would
Speaker 2: have that s shape of the of the sound wave
Speaker 2: matched perfectly to where and beds in such a way
Speaker 2: that when it comes like this it hits the other
Speaker 2: end of the wall. It makes a perfect figure eight.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: If the tone is slightly off, it's not going to
Speaker 2: bounce back like this. And this is called a standing wave,
Speaker 2: and they're starting to rediscover that standing waves can levitate things.
Speaker 2: Right now, they're really just levitating little droplets of water, right,
Speaker 2: and science is just once again, this is a rediscovery
Speaker 2: science is just now catching back onto this, but there
Speaker 2: are many takes that, you know, this is how the
Speaker 2: Pyramids were built with sound.
Speaker 1: I've seen videos where they're actually levitating small to medium
Speaker 1: sized stones as well. At this point, Oh really wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the source of that, but I have
Speaker 1: seen it done with some sort of sound or vibration
Speaker 1: instrument that they've actually been able to do with smaller,
Speaker 1: medium sized stones. But that, you know, that type of
Speaker 1: ancient technology, it's becoming more and more apparent that that
Speaker 1: was probably what was used to lift these larger stones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. You know, once again, these things are
Speaker 2: far fetched to most people, but when you really look
Speaker 2: at you know, what the sound wave is. First off,
Speaker 2: you know, we usually see a two dimensional representation of it,
Speaker 2: so we see it just up and down, but it's
Speaker 2: actually going in depth, so it's kind of more like
Speaker 2: a spiral, you could say. But just for the sake
Speaker 2: of easily visualizing this idea, we'll just take it from
Speaker 2: a two dimensional concept. When you have that s wave
Speaker 2: go like that, and then it matches going the other way,
Speaker 2: and you have that figure eight, you have equal and
Speaker 2: opposite pressure on both sides and the node that's in
Speaker 2: the center are at the heart of that figure eight.
Speaker 2: That's where the levitation can take place. So when the
Speaker 2: curve goes up, that stands for positive air pressure. When
Speaker 2: it goes down that's negative air pressure. Right. So when
Speaker 2: you have equal one opposite, positive and negative air pressure
Speaker 2: on both sides of an object, you have it in
Speaker 2: a state to where it's not it's not subject to gravity,
Speaker 2: but it's not like flying either. It's it's in a
Speaker 2: suspended middle state, you know. And this is if you
Speaker 2: go into like the UFOs, right, they can turn up down, left, right,
Speaker 2: front to back on a dime because they aren't really
Speaker 2: flying like a plane does, and they of course aren't
Speaker 2: subjective to a gravity, so they're in this state where
Speaker 2: they can they can move, you know, freely in any coordinate.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It makes me wonder if there is anything that can
Speaker 1: be obtained from the mechanics of bugs, wings of large
Speaker 1: flying insects and their maneuvers, because I believe there was
Speaker 1: actually some studies done on anti gravity when using many
Speaker 1: different types of large winged insects and somehow putting them
Speaker 1: together in forming this anti gravitic craft with insect wings,
Speaker 1: and it was actually they actually were able to attain this,
Speaker 1: So it makes me wonder if that kind of technology
Speaker 1: can somehow be obtained from observing insects and things like that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, I think I saw something about the beetle,
Speaker 2: certain kind of beetles wings, you know, and that when
Speaker 2: their wings move, they aren't like flapping their wings so
Speaker 2: to speak. It's an impulse reaction to what some theorizes
Speaker 2: just they're writing on the frequency of the Schumann residence,
Speaker 2: which is essentially Earth's heartbeat, right, Earth's baseline pulse. So
Speaker 2: they aren't like exerting and energy more so than you know,
Speaker 2: channeling a certain frequency, and that's what's moving the wings.
Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, you know, if we were to dive
Speaker 2: deeper into the mechanics of that, it would be amazing
Speaker 2: what we would find. I think it's even down to
Speaker 2: the material that their wings are made out that plays
Speaker 2: a huge role. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now I want to get into what you have on
Speaker 1: your talking points here, stained glass technology and blue apples.
Speaker 2: What is this? Yeah, So first of we'll just get
Speaker 2: into the stained glass. So the stained glass windows of
Speaker 2: the cathedrals, they were also known as the rose windows,
Speaker 2: and rose common word that goes back to another order
Speaker 2: that stemmed from the Knight's Templar, the Rose of Crucian order. Now,
Speaker 2: these Rose windows, they were made of a very specific
Speaker 2: kind of glass. If you oxidize different metals, you will
Speaker 2: get different colors. Right back in what we call the
Speaker 2: Dark Ages, there were certain forms of stained glass, especially
Speaker 2: the red stained glass, that only the knights Templar seemed
Speaker 2: to know how to make. All of the most renowned
Speaker 2: alchemists knew how to make as well. When you oxidize gold,
Speaker 2: it turns red. So they were basically implementing the alchemy
Speaker 2: and the metallurgy into their creation of the of these
Speaker 2: windows and the healing properties and the alchemical properties that
Speaker 2: come about when the sun is shining through these and
Speaker 2: you're standing in that light. That it has everything to
Speaker 2: do with, you know, basically light healing, therapy, epiphany and
Speaker 2: so on.
Speaker 6: So so that's that's that, you know, that was a
Speaker 6: big part of.
Speaker 2: The Cathedrals as far as its alchemical abilities, its abilities
Speaker 2: to train mute working with this this like resonance and
Speaker 2: with the blue apples. This is a phenomenon that takes
Speaker 2: place in two different cathedrals at two different times of
Speaker 2: the year. And it takes place every year. One is
Speaker 2: the Lincoln Cathedral and the other is the Church of
Speaker 2: Magdalen uh in Las Chateau. So at noon on these
Speaker 2: days that the sun would shine through at a certain
Speaker 2: angle and they would create a reflection on the wall
Speaker 2: of red and blue dancing orbs, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: an anomaly that people are like, how how is this
Speaker 2: coming through and creating these orbs that are balancing around
Speaker 2: in such a way. You know, it's just pretty miraculous.
Speaker 2: You can look it up online and see a few
Speaker 2: pictures of them, you know, But there wasn't risk I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Wasn't the stained glass technology used in combination with some
Speaker 1: of the sound technology utilize in these cathedrals.
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, So sound and light is very key to
Speaker 2: what our DNA picks up as a language, right, So
Speaker 2: with the sound frequency and the light frequency combined, you
Speaker 2: get an overall synthesis to kind of materializing a deeper healing.
Speaker 2: You know, you could see, you could see it in
Speaker 2: a way of like sound and somatics as kind of
Speaker 2: working with the emotions, and it's working with the material
Speaker 2: formation of stuff, and the light aspect is more of
Speaker 2: like the mind and this like right at the roots
Speaker 2: of your soul level is what that's working with to
Speaker 2: category if you wanted to categorize it. I wonder at
Speaker 2: what point can play hand in hand.
Speaker 1: I wonder at what point was all of this hijacked
Speaker 1: when it comes to tuning sound frequency, the knowledge of
Speaker 1: healing from sound and vibration. This seems to have been
Speaker 1: all hidden and swept under the rug and kept away
Speaker 1: from the populations for a long time in history. And
Speaker 1: there's different theories on when and how this all occurred.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so from where I stand with it, if you
Speaker 2: go back and you know, a lot of people talk
Speaker 2: about the changing of the music tuning starting with Nazi Germany.
Speaker 2: I do not doubt that that they used that, And
Speaker 2: though I haven't found anything too conclusive on that being
Speaker 2: applied in Nazi Germany, I have no doubts. But it
Speaker 2: actually goes further back than that. When we look back
Speaker 2: at the Ming dynasty, which is one of the most totalitarian, corrupt,
Speaker 2: power hungry dynasties in all of Asia. This was among
Speaker 2: Goolian dynasty that came to eventually rule much of China.
Speaker 2: There was a prince from that dynasty named Zuzayu, and
Speaker 2: he implemented what is called equal temperament tuning, and this
Speaker 2: is the tuning that we use to this day. So basically,
Speaker 2: you can tune music to a four forty, you can
Speaker 2: tune it to a four thirty two, you can tune
Speaker 2: it to any frequency. But as long as it's in
Speaker 2: this equal temperament ratio, it's still it's still dis harmonic,
Speaker 2: you know. And that's kind of the thing that's that
Speaker 2: I think would be key to add to that whole
Speaker 2: topic is the fact that you know, say like you
Speaker 2: have like a piece of paper with twelve pennies on
Speaker 2: it that resemble each penny resembles the twelve notes. You know,
Speaker 2: you can shift that penny up and down, but it's
Speaker 2: not going to change how the pennies are arranged. We
Speaker 2: need to change how the notes are arranged amongst themselves.
Speaker 2: And when you do that, you can actually make any
Speaker 2: tuning harmonic. You can make a four forty hrtz harmonic,
Speaker 2: even in a certain ratio tuning called justtonic tuning. When
Speaker 2: you tune C to five twenty eight HRTs, the A
Speaker 2: actually lands right on four forty hurts. And I know
Speaker 2: that's not a very popular view on music tuning. There's
Speaker 2: been a lot of stuff put out there against for forty,
Speaker 2: and I can understand why, but for forty definitely has
Speaker 2: benefits even it's just when you mix for forty in
Speaker 2: with notes that don't match with it, that's that's where
Speaker 2: it gets. It gets iffy. So if you look at
Speaker 2: the spectroscopy of the calcite crystals around the pineal gland,
Speaker 2: you start to see that the frequency octaves that resonate
Speaker 2: with those crystals is four forty hurts. So you can
Speaker 2: keep doubling that, eight eighty, so on and so on,
Speaker 2: and those are all the octaves right. So I feel
Speaker 2: like what they did was they it took a resonance
Speaker 2: right four forty that resonates strongly with our pineal gland,
Speaker 2: and they basically threw a bunch of dissonance around that.
Speaker 2: And that's why the tuning is ill. You know, if
Speaker 2: you were to throw harmony around that center basis frequency,
Speaker 2: that would have an opposite effect. It would have a
Speaker 2: healing effect. Four forty hurts and its octaves. If you
Speaker 2: look through the Rife list of healing tones, it is
Speaker 2: one of the most predominant frequencies on that whole list
Speaker 2: as far as working and mending various different ailments. And
Speaker 2: once again when we talk about octaves, if you step
Speaker 2: four forty down two twenty to one ten, this one
Speaker 2: hundred and ten hertz frequency is very commonly found in
Speaker 2: these sacred structures. And they did some EEG tests on
Speaker 2: one ten, one eleven, one twelve. It's this frequency range,
Speaker 2: and what they found was fascinating. They found that one
Speaker 2: it actually starts to activate the right hemisphere of the brain,
Speaker 2: the intuitive creative center kind of the brain. And two
Speaker 2: it starts to silence the language processing centers of the brain,
Speaker 2: so our inner dialect right, our inner dialogue to where
Speaker 2: it makes it basically a perfect space for meditation and
Speaker 2: going within and receiving knowledge. You know, you switch into
Speaker 2: a feminine or receptive state instead of a projective, masculine,
Speaker 2: strictly masculine state where we're you know, thinking. It goes
Speaker 2: from thinking to nosis basically is what this frequency range
Speaker 2: can help facilitate.
Speaker 1: So amazing, let's get into plank harmonics.
Speaker 2: What is this? So the Plank scale. Max Planck, who
Speaker 2: was a German physicist, quantum physicist, one of the fathers
Speaker 2: of quantum physics, she could say, and he discovered that
Speaker 2: there's a threshold and our measurement where you can get
Speaker 2: to a wavelength or a measurement that is so incredibly
Speaker 2: microscopic to where like this makes this makes a millimeter
Speaker 2: look huge type of thing, like very micro And when
Speaker 2: you get beyond this measurement of space, you start getting
Speaker 2: into the realm of the quantum, where the laws of
Speaker 2: physics kind of fall to the wayside, and mind over
Speaker 2: matters starts to take the steering wheel right. So, of course,
Speaker 2: working with wavelength and frequency, I took this wavelength and
Speaker 2: I calculated the frequency of it, and whether you're talking
Speaker 2: about light frequency or sound frequency, these are kind of
Speaker 2: resultant two different octave sets. But this frequent see it
Speaker 2: has the same harmonic octaves as as our DNA, So
Speaker 2: it shows through harmonic math that our DNA is directly
Speaker 2: plugged into the quantum realm or the plant field. Another
Speaker 2: thing that matches this is the the nanometer color of
Speaker 2: nano gold, which is basically coloidal gold, a gold that's
Speaker 2: one step outside of monotomic gold, and this is still
Speaker 2: gold that you can ingest. So and then there's another
Speaker 2: aspect that matches its wavelength. And that's kind of a mouthful,
Speaker 2: but I think it's if you can grasp it, it's
Speaker 2: it's worth it because it's the speed of sound starts
Speaker 2: to match its wavelength, but specifically at the temperature of
Speaker 2: sixty eight degrees. So when the temperature changes, this feat
Speaker 2: of sound changes, right, But at this sweet spot of
Speaker 2: sixty eight degrees, the speed of sound will match the
Speaker 2: Plank wavelength at harmonic octaves, and the Great Pyramid is
Speaker 2: known to keep an internal temp at sixty eight degrees fahrenheit.
Speaker 2: So you know, there's so many implications that can come
Speaker 2: from that, as far as you know, the Great Pyramid
Speaker 2: matching the resonance of your DNA matching the resonance and
Speaker 2: the input of the quantum field even making it making
Speaker 2: it a structure where you could you could tap in
Speaker 2: potentially to the quantum realm. Right, once again, the realm
Speaker 2: of mind over mattered.
Speaker 1: So with Plank harmonics, you this is a way to
Speaker 1: apply different frequencies and possibly get back information from different realms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, a feedback loop from different realms, you know.
Speaker 2: So if you go based off the frequency of sound
Speaker 2: and you calculate what's the frequency of the plank realm
Speaker 2: or the quantum realm. It ends up being perfect octaves
Speaker 2: of one hurts, two herts, four hurts, eight hurts. You
Speaker 2: keep doubling five, twelve herts. Right, These are all frequencies
Speaker 2: sound frequencies that are resonating directly with the quantum realm. Now,
Speaker 2: the most harmonic frequency of all frequencies you could figure
Speaker 2: would be one hurts. Because you can divide any other
Speaker 2: frequency by one and you get that frequency again. It
Speaker 2: could be ninety nine point eight two four seven herds,
Speaker 2: any frequency and it's going to lead back to itself.
Speaker 2: So this frequency of one two four eight, it's basically
Speaker 2: a feedback loop. And it also is a set of
Speaker 2: binary numbers and binary The concept of binary ties right
Speaker 2: in with the plank round right. Once again, going back
Speaker 2: to what we were talking about things manifesting in and
Speaker 2: out of space, you have ones and zeros right light on,
Speaker 2: light off, like how the old computers were built. You know,
Speaker 2: a card with a whole punched in the middle, and
Speaker 2: they fluctuate in the light the light on, light off,
Speaker 2: and that's a pixelation. So when you take things and
Speaker 2: you're able to hold it in the one or in
Speaker 2: the light on you can hold it in the manifest state.
Speaker 2: Science are starting to find out that you can actually
Speaker 2: hold it in the manifest with lasers, very high functioning,
Speaker 2: high powered lasers. Wow. Right on.
Speaker 1: Now let's get into some of the heat, some deeper
Speaker 1: into the healing aspects. You go into resolving trauma and
Speaker 1: something called grail embodyment. Could you talk about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, one thing about sound frequency is that when
Speaker 2: applied on the body, it stimulates the release of nitric oxide,
Speaker 2: and this is one of the chief signals in our
Speaker 2: body for disinflammation, right, tapering back inflammation. Now, inflammation is
Speaker 2: a very core concept that's at the root of all disease, right,
Speaker 2: the mental, emotional, or physical inflammation. So when we step
Speaker 2: into a state where the inflammation is tapering down, this
Speaker 2: corresponds in our nervous system. What's what's called the parasympathetic
Speaker 2: nervous system. The parasympathetic nervous system is the opposite system
Speaker 2: of the fight or flight, right, It's where we can relax,
Speaker 2: we can the body can regenerate, it can heal itself
Speaker 2: in the ways it innately knows how to, and that's
Speaker 2: how it starts to step into the idea of the
Speaker 2: holy Grail, and that the Holy Grail and these different relics,
Speaker 2: their aspects truly of something that's within us. You know.
Speaker 2: You might hear people say we are the Grail, we
Speaker 2: are the arc, and this and that. Though there are
Speaker 2: external representations, these are first and foremost built on the
Speaker 2: original blueprint, the vessel or the body of the perceiver. Right.
Speaker 2: So with the Grail, Uh, there's a lot of lore
Speaker 2: behind the Grail. With Mary Magdalen, right, some would say
Speaker 2: it goes far to say that she is the Grail.
Speaker 2: Some would say that she's a symbol of the Grail. Well,
Speaker 2: this word Magdalen, or what her name actually truly was,
Speaker 2: was Magdala, the name of the town she was from,
Speaker 2: meaning high tower. Magdala phonetically and etymologically correlates directly with
Speaker 2: a part of our brain called the amygdalah. And to
Speaker 2: tie this back into the idea of this parasympathetic nervous
Speaker 2: system and the healing and the grail embodiment. When the
Speaker 2: amygdala is firing towards the frontal lobe, neurologically, it's firing
Speaker 2: this way. This is the first key step in what's
Speaker 2: initiating the parasympathetic nervous system, the self regeneration right, the
Speaker 2: self healing of our body. T. D. Lingo, look him up,
Speaker 2: great name to look up. This guy. He went to war,
Speaker 2: you know, back in the I think nineteen fifties. He
Speaker 2: came back traumatized, wanted to know why people wanted to
Speaker 2: go to war, what's up with the fight and flight system?
Speaker 2: And he put a bunch of time and research into
Speaker 2: studying the human brain, and a lot of that led
Speaker 2: him to the amygdala, and he eventually discovered how the
Speaker 2: amygdala can fire in these different ways. It's in a way,
Speaker 2: it's like a joystick of the brain. It can fire
Speaker 2: to the front, to the back, to the left, and
Speaker 2: to the right. Now, when it's firing to the back,
Speaker 2: it's correlating with our reptilian brainstem, which is, you know,
Speaker 2: our fight in flight sense. So the amygdala often gets
Speaker 2: course sponded only with something that's fight or flight and
Speaker 2: giving us fear. But it can actually do quite the
Speaker 2: opposite when it's when it's you know, neurologically communicating in
Speaker 2: the right way.
Speaker 1: These it seems like the predynastic and even earlier Egyptian
Speaker 1: ancestors not only had a great knowledge of the human
Speaker 1: anatomy and human health and biology, but of the brain
Speaker 1: and the inner workings of it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, from the pineal gland to the thalamis,
Speaker 2: the hypothalamus, the pituitary. There's so many symbolisms and symbols
Speaker 2: and glyphs even that that go into you know, the
Speaker 2: embodiment and different aspects of our energy centers all throughout Egypt,
Speaker 2: all throughout Samaria, you know, and Samaria we see the
Speaker 2: Ananachi depictions where they're holding the pine cone, you know,
Speaker 2: the pineal land correspondence. Yeah. Yeah, that's it's definitely, definitely
Speaker 2: rife throughout all of our history. One thing I want
Speaker 2: to say too, though, is with the with the idea
Speaker 2: of the grail embodiment. So oftentimes we're taught about the
Speaker 2: kundalini when we start getting into the embodiment, and from
Speaker 2: what I gathered, the kundalini is definitely it breaks down
Speaker 2: the barriers. It's you know, it's the serpentine fire, right,
Speaker 2: It's the serpent that rises from the base of the
Speaker 2: spine goes up. But this is kind of like just
Speaker 2: half of the process because when the energy is only
Speaker 2: going up and it's staying in the head. Well, you know,
Speaker 2: we all know what happens when energy just stops and
Speaker 2: builds up. You create an inflammation, be it a mental
Speaker 2: inflammation like a like an ego inflammation, an emotional inflammation
Speaker 2: like anger and emotions we can't control, and even down
Speaker 2: to physical inflammation once again leading back to a physical illness.
Speaker 2: So an important part of this is the energy we're
Speaker 2: turning back down to actually circulate up and down. This
Speaker 2: part has been usually kind of demonized, for lack of
Speaker 2: a better word, as you know, the Kunda buffer what
Speaker 2: they call the descending energy, as if it's going to
Speaker 2: make it it's going to corrupt us. But really, when
Speaker 2: we keep our energy in a cycle and it's it's
Speaker 2: rising and it's falling, and it's rising and it's falling,
Speaker 2: we're able to evenly disperse our energy and we're able
Speaker 2: to actually ground to the earth. I think we all
Speaker 2: know what happens when something electrical isn't grounded. It's no good,
Speaker 2: you know. So, so the ascending aspect of our energy
Speaker 2: correlates with the serpent, and in Grail lore you see
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of depictions of a dove the
Speaker 2: sending into a cup, and this is this is the
Speaker 2: correlation with kind of the energy returning back down. So
Speaker 2: the dove and the serpent, right that might ring a
Speaker 2: bell from the Bible where it says, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: be wise as serpents, but gentle stuffs.
Speaker 1: Right right now, while we're on ancient symbology, and especially Egyptian,
Speaker 1: you have some insights into the duot as well, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, the douot uh and this back to Egypt, you know,
Speaker 2: this was focal and their whole civilization and society is
Speaker 2: this idea of the duot. So doot in some cases
Speaker 2: can mean death right or the underworld. And once again
Speaker 2: we dichotomize things from our dualistic mind death and dark
Speaker 2: and underworld is bad and we you know, we want
Speaker 2: to put things in these boxes. But when we start
Speaker 2: looking into these ancient civilizations, we start seeing through this
Speaker 2: eventually to where they're balancing both sides. So doot was
Speaker 2: something that they saw as a portal, and they actually
Speaker 2: had a location for it in the sky, and that
Speaker 2: location being Serious, the star system Serious and Orion. This
Speaker 2: is these two star systems, or what they saw as
Speaker 2: Isis and Osiris. So Osiris being Orion and isis being serious.
Speaker 2: There's there's a tradition that we talk about the rainbow
Speaker 2: bridge with some called the anti Karana, and it's often
Speaker 2: depicted that at the end of the rainbow bridge there's
Speaker 2: a dog that's going to meet you. Well, the star
Speaker 2: Sirius is or the star system serious is in the
Speaker 2: constellation of the dog, right, so it symbolizes basically the
Speaker 2: dog beckoning you through the do a lot or this
Speaker 2: portal into what is essentially the afterlife. When you break
Speaker 2: through this portal, you break out of the cycle of
Speaker 2: ring incarnation. I don't know who put this together, but
Speaker 2: I pad him on the back for it. Because somebody
Speaker 2: discovered that the chemical structure of d MTP is shaped
Speaker 2: an awful lot like the star system of Orion. And
Speaker 2: if we take this concept, then we take it, you know,
Speaker 2: with the age old adage as above so below, and
Speaker 2: we add in the idea of sympathetic resonance. That is
Speaker 2: two things matched. The bridge, the gap in space. We
Speaker 2: can see that, you know, d MT could be a
Speaker 2: gateway to this portal, DMT being also something that you
Speaker 2: don't need to necessarily smoke to participate in much of life.
Speaker 2: Itself and how we see reality is varying level of
Speaker 2: a d MT trip, you could say. Right, so, so
Speaker 2: this goes, you know, with the whole cycle of reincarnation
Speaker 2: penetrating through the veil. Essentially, the duot has much to
Speaker 2: do with that o'rian or Osiris right in these astrological terms,
Speaker 2: was a shepherd, and the dog could be seen as
Speaker 2: the sheep dog, you know, and and the Bible it
Speaker 2: often refers to humans as a flock and over time,
Speaker 2: you know, the word sheep turned into sheep and then
Speaker 2: we see it as like you know, docile humans. But
Speaker 2: way back before all of this, uh, there was this
Speaker 2: metaphor that if humans are the flock of sheep, then
Speaker 2: the dog is going to beckon us home. Back to
Speaker 2: this shepherd. If you've seen the Truman Show, you might
Speaker 2: have seen the part where his first awakener was one
Speaker 2: of the stage lights that fell from the sky, and
Speaker 2: that stage light was supposed to be a star in
Speaker 2: his faith world. And when he turns the stage light over,
Speaker 2: he sees canis major on it serious a and it
Speaker 2: kind of is another metaphor to where it's like the
Speaker 2: dog star comes through as this like kind of initiator
Speaker 2: or awakener to where we start to eventually like first
Speaker 2: question our reality, you know.
Speaker 1: Now, being that so much of this is about our
Speaker 1: mental state and our state of health and well being
Speaker 1: in our spiritual state, and that all these things that
Speaker 1: we're discussing right now affects our brain waves in such
Speaker 1: different ways, and the ancients knew that it would give
Speaker 1: us either more understanding or less understanding, or more power
Speaker 1: or different different aspects that would help us grow and
Speaker 1: our consciousness evolve. Well, now it seems that the opposite
Speaker 1: is happening, with different frequencies and spectrums that are keeping
Speaker 1: us in this kind of locked in a certain state
Speaker 1: and unable to perceive much of the spectrum of what
Speaker 1: is right outside of our perception. And that seemingly what
Speaker 1: it's all about in modern times is key all these
Speaker 1: frequencies that we're surrounded by at all times. And I
Speaker 1: think that's the key, is to try and separate ourselves
Speaker 1: from those harmful vibrations and frequencies as much as possible.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. One thing that's widely promoted throughout our society
Speaker 2: is stimulants, you know, stimulate like you know, we're in
Speaker 2: a corporate industrial complex. You got to be up and
Speaker 2: function and be sharp and aware. So you know, we
Speaker 2: like as a society as a whole, we kind of
Speaker 2: praise stimulants, but when you peel peel it back a
Speaker 2: little bit, stimulants as a wavelength, that's that's the high
Speaker 2: beta brainwave, right, And when you when you get high
Speaker 2: enough in the beta, you get into anxiety and paranoia
Speaker 2: even and panic mode. You get into that fight or
Speaker 2: flight system to where you know, like how you're talking
Speaker 2: about with these frequencies affecting our health, you know, the
Speaker 2: the uh, the fight or flight basically tapers down the
Speaker 2: ability for the body to heal itself, you know. So
Speaker 2: that's that's one form of like the frequencies not working
Speaker 2: for us in certain ways. You know. They they also
Speaker 2: found out, like you know, the idea of hypnosis, which
Speaker 2: can be used as for better or worse. When you
Speaker 2: get somebody into the alpha or the theta state, their subconscious
Speaker 2: mind opens up and they become programmable. Right. So when
Speaker 2: you have you know, a TV that's worked at a
Speaker 2: certain flicker rate and through your eyes, it's it's in
Speaker 2: training your brain to be in a certain state and
Speaker 2: then to implant in that state your advertisement. Right, it's
Speaker 2: it's definitely a form of sorcery. Over in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: in the Iraq area, there used to be a country
Speaker 2: called Media literally spelled media how we spell it today,
Speaker 2: and there was a form of sorcery over there where
Speaker 2: you where they would it was like soft sorcery. They
Speaker 2: would slightly bend the truth. They wouldn't tell a full
Speaker 2: blown lie. They would tell a half truth that was
Speaker 2: actually more effective than a full blown line. And they would,
Speaker 2: you know, with that, manipulate the minds of the masses.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what we see today in what we
Speaker 2: literally call media, you know. So, yeah, they do. They
Speaker 2: use these frequencies broadcast signals, you know, like if you
Speaker 2: hear an emergency broadcast, it's it's a frequency that's meant
Speaker 2: to basically resonate your amygde love. That's why it sounds
Speaker 2: so like jarring when it comes on. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right on, man, Now for the last few minutes
Speaker 1: that we have, tell the audience what you've got going
Speaker 1: on at Audible Academy and some of the other things
Speaker 1: that you're working with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so an Audible Alchemy. I do have an
Speaker 2: album out on a SoundCloud. Maybe I could send you
Speaker 2: the link you to link it in the description or
Speaker 2: something like that. But I have a twenty six track
Speaker 2: album out for just twenty six bucks where you know,
Speaker 2: it's anything from the chakras to different brain waves, soft
Speaker 2: veggio tones and such. I do custom soundscapes for people.
Speaker 2: If you email me at Audible Alchemy three six zero
Speaker 2: at outlook dot com, go ahead and contact me. I
Speaker 2: do these custom tracks for thirty bucks apiece, and it's
Speaker 2: up to you know what you want. Basically, brain waves, chakras,
Speaker 2: planetary orbits, zodiacal signs. There's you know, frequency is inexhaustible
Speaker 2: in the ways it could be used. And yeah, other
Speaker 2: than that, you know, I have my YouTube channel, audible Alchemy,
Speaker 2: where I upload a lot of the soundscapes that I make. Lately,
Speaker 2: I've been putting out just kind of a kind of
Speaker 2: freelance videos on different topics too, and talking points, working
Speaker 2: on some kind of documentaries regarding the sound frequencies, regarding
Speaker 2: embodiments and such. So that's pretty much mostly what I
Speaker 2: have going on right now now.
Speaker 1: A lot of your work does focus on in surrounding
Speaker 1: healing trauma, right, yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely so that same fate of brain waves that
Speaker 2: I was just talking about that can be used you know,
Speaker 2: for good or bad, is in terms of hypnosis. It
Speaker 2: accesses your subconscious mind. So when we step down into
Speaker 2: the state of brain wave, our traumas will naturally begin
Speaker 2: to surface, and they will surface in a gentle way.
Speaker 2: If you know, you pry your traumas to the forefront
Speaker 2: of your mind, it can actually re traumatize you. So
Speaker 2: so FATA in and of itself is a very like
Speaker 2: gentle healing modality, and it is something that will naturally
Speaker 2: cause these these deep rooted things from our formative years
Speaker 2: to uh to come to the surface to where we
Speaker 2: can reconcile that once and for all.
Speaker 1: Excellent man, I will have all your links in the description. Trevor,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on today. This is
Speaker 1: fantastic information. We'll have to definitely do this again in the.
Speaker 2: Future, absolutely, man, thanks for having me on this fun.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir head. Until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening.
Speaker 1: We will talk again tomorrow. We will see y'all. Don
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