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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, back to work for everybody after the holiday weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>including myself, and back to work for Dan. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's in trial today from the trial prep he was

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<v Speaker 2>doing last week when I filled in, So I think

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be covering for Dan today and tomorrow, and he'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably be back in studio Wednesday or Thursday. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know for sure, but that's the way trial work goes,

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<v Speaker 2>and fortunately I don't do that work. I just do

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<v Speaker 2>the prep work to prepare people to go to trial,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes or arrest them before they go to trial, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess is a better way of saying it. Two different

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of law that are practiced. Dan does a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of civil law. I have my realm in the criminal

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<v Speaker 2>law side, but sometimes they cross over. So anyways, Dan

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<v Speaker 2>will be back with you at some point this week,

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<v Speaker 2>just not exactly sure what day that is. Coming off

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<v Speaker 2>of the holiday weekend. Boy, it's tough to get back

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<v Speaker 2>into the workflow. I had a four day weekend, as

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<v Speaker 2>many of you probably did, but it was a great

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<v Speaker 2>busy weekend as I hope many of you have had

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<v Speaker 2>the same experience with fireworks and celebrating Independence Day, and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to a little bit of that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it would only be, I guess, disrespectful to not

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<v Speaker 2>cover the news of the weekend, which is the events

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<v Speaker 2>down in Texas, down in Kerrville, Texas, with the massive

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<v Speaker 2>flooding that has taken place down there and the loss

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<v Speaker 2>of life count I think is up to around ninety

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<v Speaker 2>four now, with obviously many more bodies that will probably

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<v Speaker 2>be discovered over the days and weeks to come. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's just a tragic incident. And unfortunately it's being made

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<v Speaker 2>political by certain individuals on both sides of the aisle.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's Democrats that are blaming Trump and there

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<v Speaker 2>are Republicans that are blaming you know, the previous administration.

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<v Speaker 2>When ultimately this comes down to an act of God,

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<v Speaker 2>and whether we like it or not, you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you just can't. You can't beat mother Nature. She plays

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate card sometimes, and you know, I spent some

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<v Speaker 2>time in that area of Texas in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>five attending Polygraph School down in Austin and the Guadalupe River,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it runs right through that area between Austin

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<v Speaker 2>and San Antonio and up from the Curveville area. So

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<v Speaker 2>on the weekends we would go and float that river.

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<v Speaker 2>The students in my class, you know, trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>away from Polygraph School, which is a son of a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm sure there's not many of you out there

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<v Speaker 2>that have ever gone through it, but it's an eleven

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<v Speaker 2>week school and it's it's full time. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no there's no joke about it. It's it's a tough

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<v Speaker 2>class to go through. So on the weekends we try

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<v Speaker 2>to unwind a little bit. And it's a big thing

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<v Speaker 2>down in that area. To go float the Guadalupe River.

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<v Speaker 2>You go down and rent tubes. You can rent a

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<v Speaker 2>cooler that's on a tube also, you know, load it

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<v Speaker 2>up with your favorite beverage and float down the river

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<v Speaker 2>for a few hours. And you know, most parts of

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<v Speaker 2>that river, and I've floated many, many my of it

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekends that we went down there. Most parts

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<v Speaker 2>of that river you can get out of your tube,

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<v Speaker 2>touch the ground. You know, it's maybe five or six

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<v Speaker 2>feet deep at the most. A few places where it

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<v Speaker 2>gets deeper, but oftentimes you're picking up your tube and

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<v Speaker 2>you're walking it along the creek because there's just not

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<v Speaker 2>enough water for you to float certain areas. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when you see this video, you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people say, well, why would you build a house that

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<v Speaker 2>close to the river. You know, why were they camped

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<v Speaker 2>that close to the river. It's just uncommon for anything

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<v Speaker 2>like this to occur. But where that rain hit was

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<v Speaker 2>right in the hill country around Kerrville. And when they

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<v Speaker 2>say hill country in Texas, you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>small mountain ranges if you will, and they're very rocky.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to absorb a lot of water. And

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<v Speaker 2>when it rains, it rains hard and fast down in

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<v Speaker 2>that area. And you basically just had a funnel effect

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<v Speaker 2>that went into the Guadalupe River, with accounts being that

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<v Speaker 2>that river rose as much as twenty four to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six feet in an hour's time frame. Well, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how much warning you give people, that kind of act

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<v Speaker 2>from Mother and Nate is just unbelievable. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the river got up to thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>feet at its crest, to kind of tie that back

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<v Speaker 2>into the local area. In twenty thirteen, we had the

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<v Speaker 2>floods in Boulder and Larimer and Weld County and then

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<v Speaker 2>out to the east, and I think the highest the

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<v Speaker 2>flood levels got during that time was eleven feet and

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<v Speaker 2>we had three days to kind of see that flood coming.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's still a lot of property damage,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't believe I don't remember any loss of life,

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<v Speaker 2>not at least in Weld County. There may have been

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<v Speaker 2>a few people that were taken by the tragedy in

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<v Speaker 2>Boulder County, if memory serves me right, But regardless, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>like what we're seeing in Texas. I mean, you got

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four kids, twenty or ninety four people missing, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven of them from the Mystic Ranch Christian camp. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>these are seven to nine or ten year olds that

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<v Speaker 2>were swept away in the middle of the night from

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<v Speaker 2>a cabin that they thought they were safely sleeping in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a tragedy all the way around. While we

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<v Speaker 2>always hope that these things don't get made political, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>they will, and that's the unfortunateness of where we're at

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<v Speaker 2>in this state of the world. At this point. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we have to pray for those people and

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<v Speaker 2>hope that hope that some survivors are still found, and

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<v Speaker 2>hope that the people that are left behind, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they can figure out a way to move on with

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<v Speaker 2>their lives. And uh, just such a tragic situation. And

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<v Speaker 2>for the people in that area, like I said, that

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<v Speaker 2>Guadalupe River is a major it's a major issue, a

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<v Speaker 2>major part of their culture. That's that's part of their recreation,

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<v Speaker 2>that's part of just kind of their daily lives of

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<v Speaker 2>what they do and where they go camp and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>float the river and all that kind of stuff. So, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you just hope for recovering that community. It's a very

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<v Speaker 2>sad time. And those of us who have been through

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<v Speaker 2>some other natural disaster understand that sometimes you just you're

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<v Speaker 2>just at the whim of mother nature and it's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>That being said, if you have comments you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>make about the incident, feel free you can text in

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<v Speaker 2>at text Dan at five seven seven three nine, or

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<v Speaker 2>you can call in a three O three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three eight two five five and we can definitely discuss

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<v Speaker 2>the similarities of that incident to what we've seen here

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<v Speaker 2>in the past and even back in I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was nineteen seventy six when the Thompson Canyon flooded, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>down from Estes Park through Larimer County and again out

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<v Speaker 2>into other parts of the Eastern Plains. I think from

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm seeing here from a text from last week,

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<v Speaker 2>that took about one hundred and twenty lives. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know that you look at where they're at at the

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<v Speaker 2>with the issue in Texas today, and it's probably going

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<v Speaker 2>to be much worse than than where it is at

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<v Speaker 2>this point obviously, But you know, that's the bad news

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekend, and you know, you always look at

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<v Speaker 2>tragedy and say, we gotta we got to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>it head on and at least acknowledge that it exists.

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<v Speaker 2>But we also had our Independence Day celebrations over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>and John Caldera in the previous show on the Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Schuling Show was talking about, you know, popping fire works

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<v Speaker 2>and doing all the fun stuff, and that's what That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I really hope you guys will call in and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about. Are those things that anchor you to the

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<v Speaker 2>Independence Day weekend? What is it that is just part

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<v Speaker 2>of your tradition that you say, you know, I got

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<v Speaker 2>to do this thing, and for me, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>check off a whole lot of those boxes this last weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was quite a busy weekend, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say there was a new tradition that was added.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump signed the Big Beautiful Bill on July fourth and

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<v Speaker 2>did so with a lot of fanfare, B two flyovers,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it. I don't know if that's something to

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate or something to worry about. At this point, the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Beautiful Bill has been signed and we're all going

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<v Speaker 2>to see what the ramifications of that bill are. It's

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<v Speaker 2>caused Elon Musk to kind of lose his mind a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. He started his own American Political Party or

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<v Speaker 2>America Political Party. I don't know exactly what he aims

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<v Speaker 2>to gain with that, but he's involved in politics now

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<v Speaker 2>and we're probably going to see him around for quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time. So we'll say he's been triggered from the

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<v Speaker 2>signing of the Big Beautiful Bill and the passage of

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Beautiful Bill. But regardless, that's not a tradition

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<v Speaker 2>of the fourth of July. That's kind of a one off.

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<v Speaker 3>For me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the chance to take my thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>in Nebraska and pop fireworks for hours. My mom and

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<v Speaker 2>stepdad went out and bought I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 2>dollars worth of fireworks, and then when we got there,

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<v Speaker 2>of course that wasn't enough, so my thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>and go out and buy some more fireworks because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred dollars worth wasn't enough, so we needed up

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<v Speaker 2>that to have her much more. And they had an arsenal.

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<v Speaker 2>So between my thirteen year old son and my nephew,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they popped fireworks NonStop for about two hours

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<v Speaker 2>in what looked like a war zone out of a

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<v Speaker 2>out of Fallujah, and you looked at the scenery of

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else that was popping fireworks. And again that was

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<v Speaker 2>in Nebraska, so what we were doing was legal in

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<v Speaker 2>that particular state because they still believe in some tenets

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<v Speaker 2>of democracy, I guess, unlike Colorado, where everything's illegal if

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<v Speaker 2>it has any risk to it whatsoever, it seems. So

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<v Speaker 2>I had to take my kid out of state so

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<v Speaker 2>he could experience fireworks and have a chance to connect

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<v Speaker 2>with his youth. But we also did some rodeos. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Greeley Stampede Parade on the fourth of July,

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<v Speaker 2>walked with some political candidates supporting Matt Turner to replace

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<v Speaker 2>me as the Weld County Sheriff. I went to a

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<v Speaker 2>Parker McCollum concert at the Greeley Stampede, which was so

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<v Speaker 2>and also did our family tradition of attending the demolition

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<v Speaker 2>derby at the Greeley Stampede on July sixth, which is

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<v Speaker 2>just Americana all in and of itself, because who doesn't like

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<v Speaker 2>watching cars intentionally crash into each other and knock the

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<v Speaker 2>snot out of one another for hours? And I think

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<v Speaker 2>one heat in particular, the Unlimited Class or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>there were thirty two cars and they went for a

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<v Speaker 2>full hour before they finally got down to just one car.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a marathon, but it was a great weekend. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>got a chance to reconnect with some family up in Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 2>pop fireworks, have a great time. What are your traditions?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the things that you got to check off

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<v Speaker 2>the box every year on the fourth of July before

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<v Speaker 2>you can officially say that you've celebrated your Independence Day. Correctly.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, I have a question.

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<v Speaker 2>the dirt. Yeah, it's great. So those are our Fourth

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<v Speaker 2>Or substitute today. As Dan's off doing some trial work,

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<v Speaker 2>be here today and tomorrow, and I think Dan will

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<v Speaker 1>Stop He's on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we have Heidiganal okay, well there's quite a

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking a little bit about holiday traditions. What

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<v Speaker 2>go to something that I think will trigger you guys

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, and that's the Epstein files. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for years we've been told that, hey, Jeffrey Epstein didn't

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<v Speaker 2>were some circumstances around Jeffrey Epstein's death that made me think, eh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they definitely had a very unlikely calamity of errors,

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<v Speaker 2>a list. We were going to see all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan's been beating the table. Where's the list. We want

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<v Speaker 2>to see the list. I want to see the list.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's hard for me to believe someone like Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 2>who's accused of all the horrific things that he did,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, having sex with people under age and

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<v Speaker 2>holding them captive potentially on his island, and just some

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<v Speaker 2>so many people other than you know, just the pure money. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's video footage that monitor Jeffrey Epstein for like the

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<v Speaker 2>last eleven hours leading up to his death, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>the current administration, through Pam Bondi, Cash Betel. What say

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<v Speaker 2>Do you care? I have to tell you, as a

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<v Speaker 2>the cash betels, the Pam bondis. Where's this going to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you belie leave that Jeffrey Epstein didn't have a list.

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<v Speaker 2>You can text in text Dan at five seven seven,

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<v Speaker 2>much nefarious activity, all the things that that that he

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<v Speaker 2>no list. Suddenly it's gone. I mean, we we even

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<v Speaker 2>have some flight logs showing who flew on his plane,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lolita Express, but suddenly we don't have a client list.

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<v Speaker 2>That just I don't know something. Something isn't right in

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this guy was a disgusting pervert. But we

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<v Speaker 2>But again, you know, this new administration is telling us

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have a governor's candidate, Joshua Griffin on with us.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, you know, this is a chance for candidates

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<v Speaker 2>what all josh is about. If you're listening to The

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to the Dan Plus Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love that Bumper music because that's actually one

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<v Speaker 2>But we have with us on the line another candidate

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me?

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<v Speaker 2>You bet Joshua? If you would is Joshuacare? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>prefer Joshua?

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<v Speaker 3>It's fine either way. I'm from the military.

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<v Speaker 3>main target audience is the military. Why am I running

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<v Speaker 3>for office is because, I mean I'm not to be

421
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<v Speaker 3>critical or just be mean towards the other candidates, but

422
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<v Speaker 3>I mean I really believe that we're the only ones

423
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<v Speaker 3>that have a chance in the general and quite frankly,

424
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<v Speaker 3>you know, we are the only ones that actually have

425
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<v Speaker 3>a plan not only how to win, but to bring

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<v Speaker 3>this state back to some sense of normalcy and in

427
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<v Speaker 3>national dominance.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I looked at your web page quite a

429
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<v Speaker 2>bit Josh, and again thank you for your service to

430
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<v Speaker 2>the US military. You were in the army. I believe so,

431
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<v Speaker 2>and looking through your page, you've put a lot of

432
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<v Speaker 2>work into it, There's no doubt about it. What would

433
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<v Speaker 2>you say your top few priorities if elected or when

434
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<v Speaker 2>elected as governor? Uh? You know what, what are those

435
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<v Speaker 2>things you're going to focus on for the state of Colorado?

436
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<v Speaker 3>Well, when elected, I am definitely going to first and

437
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<v Speaker 3>foremost take a step back and look at everything that

438
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<v Speaker 3>I personally can do without the legislature and whatever I

439
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<v Speaker 3>can streamline cut with it, you know, use of spending

440
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<v Speaker 3>in the budget, fluff positions. That's gonna be the first thing,

441
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<v Speaker 3>and also make sure that we bring in a strong

442
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<v Speaker 3>administration with us. The second thing gets just normal stuff.

443
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<v Speaker 3>But I think every governor should be be doing. You know,

444
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<v Speaker 3>let's look at the books to make sure everything is

445
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<v Speaker 3>good on that and then that's at the same time,

446
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<v Speaker 3>let's restore our constitutional rights, you know, and the things

447
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<v Speaker 3>that have been happening right now. But again I can't

448
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<v Speaker 3>stress that that's not just a governor's position, it's going

449
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<v Speaker 3>to be ours because we definitely have to start fighting

450
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<v Speaker 3>to put more common sense people in the legislature, but

451
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<v Speaker 3>also make sure that the AG that gets elected, would

452
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<v Speaker 3>that be somebody who is willing to play lawfare just

453
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<v Speaker 3>because they have a crop with the president.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I understand that the stuff that our current AG

455
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<v Speaker 2>is doing right now is kind of mind numbing at times.

456
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<v Speaker 2>So you're basically looking at doing a little bit of

457
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<v Speaker 2>a doge if I will, for the state of Colorado

458
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<v Speaker 2>as the governor, you want to clean up spending. So

459
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<v Speaker 2>from that point, you know you want to focus on

460
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<v Speaker 2>government efficiency. If I'm not putting words in your mouth,

461
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<v Speaker 2>but what are some of the ways that you see

462
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<v Speaker 2>turning Colorado in a different direction? I mean, how do

463
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<v Speaker 2>we get back on a path where the common voter

464
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<v Speaker 2>feels like they have someone representing them in their own interests.

465
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<v Speaker 3>Well, stop playing partisan politics. Number one starts understanding that

466
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<v Speaker 3>when you are elected to represent the people of Colorado,

467
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<v Speaker 3>you're not supposed to be beholding to the party first.

468
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<v Speaker 3>And I know that sounds weird. It sounds, well, well,

469
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<v Speaker 3>you know what about the Democrats. Well, I don't care

470
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<v Speaker 3>about the Democrats. What I care about is the people.

471
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<v Speaker 3>And if we learn to actually address people as the

472
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<v Speaker 3>person that they are instead of the party they represent.

473
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<v Speaker 3>I'm almost assured that we will be able to come

474
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<v Speaker 3>to some kind of common ground. They will allow both

475
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<v Speaker 3>Democrats and Republicans divorce themselves from the far fringes of

476
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<v Speaker 3>each been separate parties.

477
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<v Speaker 2>Well, on your web page, you decide are you define

478
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<v Speaker 2>yourself as I think you said, a center right type person,

479
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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily on any of the fringe areas, not extreme

480
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<v Speaker 2>right wing or obviously not le left wing, which is

481
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<v Speaker 2>probably what has to resonate in the state of Colorado.

482
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<v Speaker 2>But I guess the secondary part of that is how

483
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<v Speaker 2>do you get out to those voters who are unaffiliated?

484
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<v Speaker 2>How do you get your message out to Republican voters

485
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<v Speaker 2>because we know that in the past, our current Governor

486
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<v Speaker 2>Polis has just written checks in order to get his

487
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<v Speaker 2>voice out there. Maybe you're independently wealthy like he is,

488
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<v Speaker 2>but writing, you know, fifty million dollars worth of ad

489
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<v Speaker 2>time is not something that most of us can do.

490
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<v Speaker 2>So how do you break that barrier? How do you

491
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<v Speaker 2>get your message out there? And what's your strategy?

492
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<v Speaker 3>Well, we are very blessed financially here, so I mean

493
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<v Speaker 3>we're not maybe fifty million dollars blessed yet but we

494
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<v Speaker 3>are definitely blessed me and all compare, so we definitely

495
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<v Speaker 3>have the funds to strategically go out there and you know,

496
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<v Speaker 3>place ads to the voters themselves. But you know, quite

497
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<v Speaker 3>frankly want to do is is that in the beginning

498
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<v Speaker 3>of next year, we want to do a tour. We're

499
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<v Speaker 3>gonna probably we're gonna start a podcast and we're gonna

500
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<v Speaker 3>do a tour. We're gonna highlight the small businesses along

501
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<v Speaker 3>the way. We're gonna go out to the rural counties.

502
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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna actually go and talk to people and naturally

503
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<v Speaker 3>not even talk to them, but listen to them. Because

504
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<v Speaker 3>most politicians, and I don't consider myself want to consider

505
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<v Speaker 3>myself a statesman. You know, all they want to do

506
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<v Speaker 3>is tell you what they want to do. They don't

507
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<v Speaker 3>really care what the people want to say, because nine

508
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<v Speaker 3>times out of ten, once they get in office, they

509
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<v Speaker 3>know who the real bosses. And that's gonna be the donors,

510
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<v Speaker 3>and that's going to be the party establishment. We're not

511
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<v Speaker 3>running on that. You know, I'm what you can say

512
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<v Speaker 3>bad about polls or not, but I'm going to put

513
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<v Speaker 3>my own money into this. And yes, we're going to fundraise.

514
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<v Speaker 3>But more importantly, we're going to go to every place

515
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<v Speaker 3>in Colorado. I'm talking to them, and yes they even

516
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<v Speaker 3>includes the Progressive and in the Democrat domains as well,

517
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<v Speaker 3>because guess what, when I become governor, we become the

518
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<v Speaker 3>leader of the entire Colorado. So just because you belong

519
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<v Speaker 3>to a different party, that doesn't mean I don't have

520
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:03.200
<v Speaker 3>your best interest in mind.

521
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<v Speaker 2>So, so far in the race, I believe there's fifteen candidates,

522
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:09.240
<v Speaker 2>and that's not to say that there can't be more

523
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:11.160
<v Speaker 2>that get in or maybe a few that drop out.

524
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<v Speaker 2>Have you been engaging in those those political debates, the

525
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<v Speaker 2>political events, and if so, what kind of response are

526
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<v Speaker 2>you getting?

527
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<v Speaker 3>No, I have not to be quite frankly, and I

528
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<v Speaker 3>don't want to be rude, but it's just worthless to

529
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:28.279
<v Speaker 3>build there because everybody's right now is just fighting to

530
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<v Speaker 3>be you know, the parties, you know, a puppet or

531
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<v Speaker 3>candidate right and let's be let's be h. You know

532
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<v Speaker 3>the frank here that that doesn't work here in Colorado,

533
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<v Speaker 3>the biggest population is unaffiliated, you know, And unfortunately, because

534
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:49.440
<v Speaker 3>of our past and our inability to actually market ourselves

535
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:52.279
<v Speaker 3>properly in speak to the voters, and what they want.

536
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<v Speaker 3>The Republican Party has had such a tumultuous time that

537
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<v Speaker 3>some would even say that the GOP is irrelevant at

538
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<v Speaker 3>this point. So, no, we are running as Republicans, but

539
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.200
<v Speaker 3>you might want to say that we are operating as

540
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 3>independent because we understand that the true boss in the

541
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:11.759
<v Speaker 3>state are the people, and so we're focusing on the

542
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 3>people right now versus the party.

543
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<v Speaker 2>So you're you're registered as a Republican, running as a

544
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Republican because that's the party that you most affiliate with

545
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 2>as a as as far as values go. But you

546
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily you don't necessarily believe in the machine. If

547
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>you will, and I use that loosely in air quotes,

548
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:30.519
<v Speaker 2>that is the Republican Party. Is that Is that a

549
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:31.119
<v Speaker 2>fair statement?

550
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I'm my own man, I stand on my own

551
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.400
<v Speaker 3>two feet. I don't I don't do anything based on

552
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 3>someone's endorsement of me or my endorsement of another person.

553
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.559
<v Speaker 3>You vote for me, you're getting Joshua Joseph something something

554
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 3>Griffin I got you.

555
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a that's a non traditional approach, I'll say that.

556
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<v Speaker 2>So that that tells me that your your plan is

557
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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily to go through the state Assembly, but maybe

558
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<v Speaker 2>more of the petitioner oute to access to the ballot.

559
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<v Speaker 2>Is is that accurate or if you've made that decision yet?

560
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we ever made a decision, and the unfortunately I'm

561
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 3>not saying anything that no one else knows. The party

562
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.400
<v Speaker 3>is in a disarray, you know, from the last chair.

563
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<v Speaker 3>You know, no one has any no fidelity in integrity

564
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.119
<v Speaker 3>and the Venter party right now. So we're not going

565
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 3>to go through that as Assembly. I would love to,

566
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:24.640
<v Speaker 3>but unfortunately I'm not going to put my time and

567
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 3>effort in a place where, unfortunately it has been wanted

568
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:32.119
<v Speaker 3>for quite some time.

569
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<v Speaker 2>So your your plan is to access the ballot through

570
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 2>the through other means, the petition process, and go out

571
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 2>directly to the voters, the Republicans. The Republican voters will

572
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.160
<v Speaker 2>be the ones that have to sign your petition. But

573
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.039
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to access every voter when you're out pounding

574
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<v Speaker 2>the pavement. I guess, is that is that fair?

575
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<v Speaker 3>That's true? No different in the general.

576
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what kind of success, what kind of feedback

577
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 2>are you having so far?

578
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Very very and quite frankly, it's it's a lot of

579
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 3>great feedback from the unaffiliated independence that you know, they

580
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:13.920
<v Speaker 3>they like the understanding that someone is actually looking to

581
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 3>run the state not as a party puppet, but as

582
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 3>an executive, clearing unnecessary committees, putting directors, former leading you know,

583
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.839
<v Speaker 3>like even with water, right, let's talk about water. Everybody's

584
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:29.279
<v Speaker 3>going to talk about water and say, oh no, we

585
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:32.319
<v Speaker 3>just need to preserve height. We preserve what you don't get,

586
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, So we're our ideas not preserved,

587
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:38.839
<v Speaker 3>but to increase same thing with taxes and funding and

588
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:40.799
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. And when we can talk about the

589
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 3>one point one billion dollars that you know have been

590
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:48.079
<v Speaker 3>just taken because of just bad governance and ilegal immigration,

591
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Speaker 3>but also the solvent Wealth Fund where we actually will

592
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 3>bring in you know, commerce and revenue, so we can

593
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>eliminate income tax, we can lower property tax. We can

594
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:05.960
<v Speaker 3>also expand the living footprint of Colorado, thus increasing the

595
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 3>supply and lessening the demand that will actually lower the

596
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 3>calls for housing. We're coming this with a practical executive approach,

597
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:16.119
<v Speaker 3>and people actually are finding that very refreshing.

598
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<v Speaker 2>Well, so you mentioned the legal immigration. I mean, that's

599
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>a that's a topic that's going to be part of

600
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:24.279
<v Speaker 2>running for any any statewide seat in the state of Colorado.

601
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.359
<v Speaker 2>What do you think of the current administration's plan for

602
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>removing illegal immigrants from the United States and specifically Colorado.

603
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 3>One thousand percent behind it. But you know, let me

604
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 3>let me prefence this with something that a lot of

605
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>people have lost the understanding and definition of is nuanced. Yes,

606
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 3>one thousand percent. We should not be putting people in

607
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.279
<v Speaker 3>front of the line who have not ever know, produced

608
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:55.160
<v Speaker 3>or given anything to our economy. That's number one. Number two.

609
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<v Speaker 3>You know, you're in the law enforcement, I'm in the military.

610
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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much is the same spirit, but in a different church.

611
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:06.640
<v Speaker 3>So we understand why are we prioritizing age fighting men

612
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:09.200
<v Speaker 3>to come to this country when they should be out

613
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.880
<v Speaker 3>there fighting for their own people. We definitely have salt

614
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 3>hearts for women and children, right and I'm not always

615
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 3>going to have a salt heart for women and children

616
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 3>and find anything that's moral ethimately found in order to

617
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 3>help them in any kind of way. But most importantly,

618
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'll say this, when my son had a one

619
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 3>hundred and six degree temperature at the age of eighteen

620
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.519
<v Speaker 3>months and we went to UC Health emergency and their

621
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:35.839
<v Speaker 3>staff was barely there because they are prioritizing illegal pens

622
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 3>over the citizens. You know, I look at him, and

623
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 3>I look at these other beautiful babies and not saying

624
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 3>that they're better than any other child. By how dare

625
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:47.160
<v Speaker 3>we prioritize somebody else and then put our own children

626
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 3>at risk? So you dog, you dog on straight. I'm

627
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 3>going to be fighting to go with the federal government

628
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 3>to in a more ethical way and moral way get

629
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<v Speaker 3>these people back home where they belong. But first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go just on the criminals first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, I got you. I got you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess that you don't necessarily agree with the

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<v Speaker 2>governor Polus when he says Colorado is not a sanctuary state.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gathering that from your from your comments. Totally not Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we had just a couple of seconds here. Josh finish

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<v Speaker 2>out with telling the listeners how they can find you

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<v Speaker 2>out in social media world Internet. How can people get

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<v Speaker 2>a hold of you if they want to find out

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<v Speaker 2>more about your campaign?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, please just visit us at j Griff for Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>That is J Griff g R I F F letter

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<v Speaker 3>four c O. That's our Twitter or X handle. And

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<v Speaker 3>also Joshua Griffin for the letter.

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<v Speaker 4>Four c O.

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<v Speaker 3>Is our website and we would love for you to

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<v Speaker 3>look at it and just think about what Colorado can be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when there's actually somebody who's looking for you

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<v Speaker 3>and not trying to get into that office based on

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<v Speaker 3>how much they love or hate somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks for the time, josh and good luck to

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<v Speaker 2>you in this race. If I'm filling in in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll try to get you back on again again. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for being on the show. And with that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to cut the break. You're listening to the Dan Capless

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<v Speaker 2>Show here on six thirty k how with Will Kenny Sheriff,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Dreams.

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<v Speaker 4>And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Or Steve Reams. I just got done with our interview

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<v Speaker 2>with Joshua Griffin, candidate for governor. Definitely an untraditional approach

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<v Speaker 2>to his candidacy for governor, and you know his strategy

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<v Speaker 2>for accessing the ballot. We'll see how successful that is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've run for political office a few times,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no succinct way of saying this, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to need Republican voters and you definitely, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to run as a Republican, you need the Republican voters,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes that assembly process is the make or break

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<v Speaker 2>for whether or not you're going to be taken seriously

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<v Speaker 2>by your own party. But who knows. We haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>a win in the governor's race or a statewide race

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<v Speaker 2>even for the Republicans and quite some time, so maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he's onto something. Also, before we had josh On, we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about the Epstein files and whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>you believe the federal government's line of yep, you've seen

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<v Speaker 2>everything and there's just nothing here. I can tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>As a law enforcement person, I'm a bit skeptical, But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe I'm just wrong. It seems like either

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<v Speaker 2>there was not either there wasn't a very good investigation

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<v Speaker 2>done and evidence wasn't maintained the way it should have been,

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<v Speaker 2>or we're all just filling in gaps that never were

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<v Speaker 2>really there. I don't know, it just something doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>quite right. But a few texts rolled in. One of

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<v Speaker 2>our favorite listeners here, Steven Littlton says, Sheriff, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to believe the current Epstein narrative, but I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>there's much we're not being told. And man, that summarizes

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<v Speaker 2>it great, Steve. I couldn't agree with you more. There

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<v Speaker 2>just seems like there's some gaps here, and that sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>happens in a big investigation. You know, things just get

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<v Speaker 2>missed and the conclusion doesn't necessarily come out the way

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<v Speaker 2>you thought it was going to. And maybe that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing. I don't know. Here's another one, pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 2>on point for the Epstein stuff. It says, where's the list,

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<v Speaker 2>follow the money? He didn't do anything for income, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was worth nearly a billion. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing I remember a little bit of Epstein's way

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<v Speaker 2>of making money was he was a financier. He was

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<v Speaker 2>an investor. He did some stuff with the owner of

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria's secrets, and he started his own finance company of

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<v Speaker 2>some kind. But never really could explain where his income

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<v Speaker 2>came from. And I just, I don't know, something doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>sound quite right. I'd love to make billions, almost well

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<v Speaker 2>almost a billion or over a billion dollars and never

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<v Speaker 2>really be able to explain where it came from. Wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>that be great? And then here's one a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of feedback about our governor's candidate. Like I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>text them, We read them. This governor's candidate is a

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<v Speaker 2>full Did he just insult all the people that work

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<v Speaker 2>hard on the committee and he really should learn to

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<v Speaker 2>speak proper English. If he's going to run for governor,

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<v Speaker 2>well you send him, we'll read him. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to break. When we come back, we'll have Carlos

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<v Speaker 2>Baron on with us at the top of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be the new Republican whip down at

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<v Speaker 2>the Statehouse. You're listening to Dan Cafleas show here on

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<v Speaker 2>six point thirty k HOW with Well County Sheriff Steve Riams.