Speaker 1: Weird things happen, weird, weird, weird. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think everyone is on a quest to figure out
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Why are we here? And
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? And I know I am,
Speaker 1: I mean, and at some point in your life, if
Speaker 1: you haven't gone on that quest, you'll get to that quest,
Speaker 1: because no matter what things happen in your life, where
Speaker 1: you go, how much you have, how much you don't have,
Speaker 1: you get to a point where it's like, well, what
Speaker 1: is it? What are we all doing on this rock
Speaker 1: of you know, that's just kind of spinning through space
Speaker 1: and we were born into and then exit, you know,
Speaker 1: And like the meaning of life, I guess is always
Speaker 1: I've been taught to give life meaning. Uh but uh
Speaker 1: but what is the greater, bigger thing? And uh and
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't know, if you know, we
Speaker 1: can never get to the bottom of it. So it's
Speaker 1: like peeling away onions layers to an onion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Okay? If we start with that.
Speaker 1: Peter, Yeah, I thought we were recording, so he.
Speaker 2: Could it's it's recording, But you know, it's like it
Speaker 2: kind of starts when we say starts, So I think
Speaker 2: that's a beautiful start. I want to introduce our wonderful
Speaker 2: guest to the listener. We have Peter Fachinelli. I have
Speaker 2: to say, Peter, and I'm just being perfectly candid here
Speaker 2: because that's my style. You are, literally and this is
Speaker 2: like the most excited I've ever been to do an episode.
Speaker 1: I'm not don't don't tell Brad Payton. Well, I was
Speaker 1: with let's let's little do a little back back to history.
Speaker 1: I would just with I would just with you and
Speaker 1: Brad Payton a week ago, bradment and and my cousin
Speaker 1: dax Or you know who I think is going to
Speaker 1: do your show soon. He's been Yeah, and we had
Speaker 1: a lovely, lovely time with you guys and got to
Speaker 1: SkyWatch and your family was so kind and now I
Speaker 1: feel like we're all part of the same family. And
Speaker 1: uh and it was what a wonderful experience that we had.
Speaker 1: So thank you for that, and thank you for your
Speaker 1: family for that. And I'm excited too excited.
Speaker 2: To me Yeah, Well, like I told you, you're part
Speaker 2: of the family now. I think it's very obvious to
Speaker 2: the listener your background. But just to give for people
Speaker 2: who are listening, uh, Peter is an actor. He has
Speaker 2: been in a number of amazing movies. I'm sure they'll
Speaker 2: obviously immediately recognize Twilight. And I have to be honest
Speaker 2: with you. My wife and I just binge all five.
Speaker 3: Oh, go all the way? Okay, yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2: And so my brain is spinning right now with that.
Speaker 2: But it was just for fun.
Speaker 3: You know, you just saw him get his head cut off.
Speaker 1: Well sorry the twelve fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, you're right, man, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: want Brad to hear that. I was very excited for
Speaker 2: that episode two, but this feels a little different because
Speaker 2: we were supposed to do it in person and then
Speaker 2: you went home and I felt the scene from feeling
Speaker 2: in my gut like, ah, we ran out of time.
Speaker 2: What if I missed the mark And you've been kind,
Speaker 2: You've been gracious with your time. You still came and
Speaker 2: did it. That means a lot to us. So anyway, without.
Speaker 1: Further ado, I'm excited. I'm excited to be here. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So something that I think would be we talked about
Speaker 2: this at some point. I would love to get into
Speaker 2: an unbreakable boy, but maybe we can save that for
Speaker 2: a little bit. I want to talk out. I want
Speaker 2: to and you guys might not know about this, but
Speaker 2: he has a movie coming out next month.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we talked about it.
Speaker 2: Basically, was like one of the key people of getting
Speaker 2: it out there, and I'll let him.
Speaker 1: I was a producer on it, and I found the
Speaker 1: book and was able to shepherd it to lions Gate.
Speaker 1: Lions Gate, you know, we were able to make it
Speaker 1: and now it comes out. So but we'll get into
Speaker 1: all of that after we get into that.
Speaker 2: I want to start with you, man. I was talking
Speaker 2: with Jenny this morning and I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: what would be really cool. She was like, you need
Speaker 2: to think about this and this and this, and I
Speaker 2: was like, no, you know what I want to know
Speaker 2: and what I think think the listener would love to know.
Speaker 2: I'm curious, Peter, when this spiritual journey began for you,
Speaker 2: because spending seventy two hours with you, it's very clear
Speaker 2: that you are an earnest seeker. And I kind of
Speaker 2: got a little giggle out of some of the things
Speaker 2: you said because in my mind I was so, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm meeting you. Know, Peter. I've seen you
Speaker 2: in all these movies growing up and I'm like, what's
Speaker 2: he going to be? Like, I didn't know you were
Speaker 2: coming for two weeks, right like two weeks before you came,
Speaker 2: it was like, whoa, this is really fast. And I
Speaker 2: had this expectation and then I met you, and you're
Speaker 2: like this down to earth like dude, you know, like
Speaker 2: the galaxies in the universe or like our consciousness man.
Speaker 2: And he was just saying all these things over the
Speaker 2: three days. That's like the things that we say. And
Speaker 2: I kind of had this giggle in my mind, like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: so you're for real. You know, you're you're really for real.
Speaker 2: We're talking about the pyramids. So anyway, So what I'm
Speaker 2: curious about is like how this spiritual journey began for you?
Speaker 2: Have you always been this way? Is it a more
Speaker 2: recent thing?
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up Catholic, so I grew up
Speaker 1: with some religion. I would say I'm more spiritual than religious.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think I think we've I mean
Speaker 1: I've always felt like there was a connection to some
Speaker 1: out outer source of something you know, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're when you're talking to it, it's listening and
Speaker 1: and it sometimes downloads things to you and uh, and
Speaker 1: and and so having that uh, this this thing to
Speaker 1: to be able to connect with uh, then you start
Speaker 1: to wonder, well, where's it coming from? Where? Where? How
Speaker 1: does it all work? And so I think I've always
Speaker 1: an aly had it. I mean I've read so many
Speaker 1: books on on on different religions and different things, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you think you have it in your hand
Speaker 1: and and then it kind of falls out like sand.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm reading Tom Campbell's My Big Toe
Speaker 1: right now, and and I don't know if you read it,
Speaker 1: but it's eating take on consciousness and where we're you
Speaker 1: know how much. And it works. And you know he
Speaker 1: doesn't claim to have all the answers he claims to have.
Speaker 1: You know, this is his his, his dogma and uh
Speaker 1: and we're allowed our dogma. But but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things that resonate and a lot of things that
Speaker 1: I feel like, oh, I think I understand and then
Speaker 1: I have to like listen to it ten times and
Speaker 1: I'm like I get it, and I but it's so huge.
Speaker 1: I think I said this before you. It's like it's
Speaker 1: trying to explain like the the the US presidential elections
Speaker 1: to the bacteria in your stomach. You know, bacteria in
Speaker 1: your stomach has its own little, you know, ecosystem, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't know what the bigger outer things that they're
Speaker 1: trying to explain a nuclear bomb to the bacteria study
Speaker 1: is like, nor would it care. But if something affected
Speaker 1: if a nucle momb went offer that, you know, our
Speaker 1: food supply, what all of a sudden, it's like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, there's no food here. So everything kind of
Speaker 1: as above so below right, So it's things outside effect
Speaker 1: and then it affects us. But it's like consciousness in
Speaker 1: this book is just all one big swirling system, you know,
Speaker 1: as far as I could tell from from Tom Campbell's
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get it wrong, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to you know, quote undo. What I'm getting
Speaker 1: from it is like it's in a weird way, it's
Speaker 1: depressing and in a weird way it's freeing, you know,
Speaker 1: because you look at it and go, well, okay, well
Speaker 1: then what is the purpose? What is the purpose of
Speaker 1: all this? And like do you you know, end your
Speaker 1: story and you take a bow and end up going okay,
Speaker 1: now I have my life review and now I get
Speaker 1: to see what I've learned and grown or is it.
Speaker 1: You were just part of this this experience and you
Speaker 1: you're born, and you live, and you die and then
Speaker 1: you kind of dissipate into the sea of consciousness again
Speaker 1: and and you're no more important than an apple falling
Speaker 1: from the tree that kind of decomposes. And you know,
Speaker 1: and even that apple has significance because that apple that
Speaker 1: is born into the world and falls into the tree
Speaker 1: and decomposes is feeding the other you know, systems, And
Speaker 1: so we're all part of this big system that's swirling about.
Speaker 1: And I'm affecting you, and you're affecting me, and this
Speaker 1: podcast is affecting others and on a bigger global scale,
Speaker 1: like our consciousness is affecting other parts of the consciousness
Speaker 1: and so there's no real like you don't matter, But
Speaker 1: do we matter as much as we think we do,
Speaker 1: as far as our ego selves, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And that's the depressing part, is like, Okay, so this
Speaker 1: little play that we're putting on and these characters that
Speaker 1: we're playing, and I'm playing the role of Peter Fashionelle
Speaker 1: today and you're playing the role run LEDs up. Like
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I know it all matters.
Speaker 1: I know, we affect each other, but you know, hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of years from now, how much did that
Speaker 1: affect the consciousness system? Did it? Did I grow to it?
Speaker 1: Am I still when I when I dissipate into the
Speaker 1: sea of consciousness? Am I still? Like? Do I understand
Speaker 1: that I played this part you know years and years ago?
Speaker 1: Is time doesn't exist in and of itself.
Speaker 3: Right, so trippy. So really it comes.
Speaker 1: Really trippy because time and space don't really exist. It's
Speaker 1: a man made construct. So when you put all of
Speaker 1: that together, it really feels like the bacteria trying to
Speaker 1: understand nuclear fission. You're just glazed over. And then I
Speaker 1: had an experience with you guys which was so wonderful
Speaker 1: and so you know, makes your heart glow with seeing
Speaker 1: these beautiful orbs in the sky that you know, at
Speaker 1: first your mind wants to go, well, that's a shooting star.
Speaker 1: And oh that's another shooting star. Oh there's another shooting star. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe it's just raining shooting stars. Maybe six o'clock, like
Speaker 1: you know, a meteor shower. And I have videotaped like
Speaker 1: two of them because I was just like, they're so
Speaker 1: high up in the sky. And then I go home
Speaker 1: and I play the video and they're dancing balls of
Speaker 1: light and they're changing colors, and you're like, there's no
Speaker 1: way that's I mean, you know, meteor shower. That's not
Speaker 1: you know, your mind wants to make it into something else.
Speaker 1: It wants to justify. It doesn't want to believe because
Speaker 1: it wants to stay in this limited belief system. But
Speaker 1: I know that they're not and I know that they're
Speaker 1: not man made. There's no way that that's you know,
Speaker 1: no one put on a laser show for us that
Speaker 1: in that evening at six o'clock, especially for us, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, and I know that they're not made of
Speaker 1: any kind of material that we could have created because
Speaker 1: of the shapes and the patterns that were it was making.
Speaker 1: And I have it on my Instagram if anybody wants
Speaker 1: to go see these, and you can zoom in and
Speaker 1: they're you know, there's shapes there, there's tetrahedron, there's uh,
Speaker 1: you know all there's a crow. It becomes in the cross,
Speaker 1: it becomes all these different shapes and colors. So you're going, okay, well,
Speaker 1: what is it if it's not man made and it's
Speaker 1: not you know, human then then is the spirits? Is
Speaker 1: it dimensional? Is it aliens crafts? And you still walk
Speaker 1: away with an unanswered questions, which which then makes you
Speaker 1: so frustrated, because I mean, I think I said this
Speaker 1: to your dad, like I feel so frustrated as him,
Speaker 1: because he was he had this experience and he was
Speaker 1: told certain things and then I'd be like, but what
Speaker 1: do I do with it now? So my cousin Dax
Speaker 1: was like so exciting. He was like, well, this is
Speaker 1: my goal, this is life changing. And I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be pessimistic, but I was like, but what do
Speaker 1: I do with it? Because I still have to, you know,
Speaker 1: feed my family and go to my job and make
Speaker 1: my movies and get my coffee and you know, eat
Speaker 1: my lunch. And but what do you do with it?
Speaker 1: Because I still don't know what it is or how
Speaker 1: to help it or how to help humanity in any way.
Speaker 1: And I know it all starts with the self. I
Speaker 1: get it. I still go what now? What?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: What? Now?
Speaker 2: I love this Peter because when we were skywatching together,
Speaker 2: which was I guess two nights that we were skywatching,
Speaker 2: and over those two nights, we probably saw somewhere around
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty lights, one hundred on the first night,
Speaker 2: on the second night, anywhere from I don't know thirty
Speaker 2: to fifty. And what I love about hearing you explain
Speaker 2: this to me now and such detail and with such
Speaker 2: enthusiasm is great because you were so quiet during the SkyWatch,
Speaker 2: and I didn't want to probe you. I didn't want
Speaker 2: to be like, what are you think of? What are
Speaker 2: you thinking? You know, and you were just kind of
Speaker 2: like quiet. You were sitting there, you were really chill.
Speaker 2: I noticed you were in the zero G and you
Speaker 2: were filming and you were getting your footage. And the
Speaker 2: whole time I was thinking, I wonder what's going on
Speaker 2: in Peter's head? I wonder, I wonder what you think
Speaker 2: about this? So to hear you explain this to me
Speaker 2: is very surreal. It's very exciting to like see how
Speaker 2: your gears have been turning about this. And I think
Speaker 2: you're right. I've been there my whole life, like what
Speaker 2: do we do with it? And I think what I've
Speaker 2: naturally come up with is like just be the best
Speaker 2: I can be, you know, just try to share this
Speaker 2: with people and just try to glow like those beautiful
Speaker 2: bright lights and just be the kindest person that I
Speaker 2: can be and help others to see like, hey, there's
Speaker 2: something freaking going on up there, you know, and in here.
Speaker 1: I think what's funny is like, it's hard because I
Speaker 1: understand the plight that you and your your family have
Speaker 1: because even sharing it with my family or friends, and
Speaker 1: you want to show them and you show them footage.
Speaker 1: Now I have foot your your dad didn't even have
Speaker 1: footage for like the first one years. Yeah, five years
Speaker 1: no footage. People are like, sure you saw that, but
Speaker 1: I have footage, and people are looking at it going, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting, and then that's it and that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't know what to do with it either, or
Speaker 1: they'll go, well you sure it wasn't this? Are you
Speaker 1: sure it wasn't that? And or you know, I sent
Speaker 1: to a couple of friends and you know, teasingly he
Speaker 1: shot a star. It was like, look I see it too,
Speaker 1: and it's like he was his own around and to
Speaker 1: be like, but that's not funny, because like, that's I saw.
Speaker 1: This is what I saw. I'm like, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think people's go to is to either make fun of it,
Speaker 1: rush it off, or or rationalize it before they go
Speaker 1: Oh that was I believe, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like they they even now the government's coming out
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, these things, we don't know what
Speaker 1: they are, and you know they're not I don't think
Speaker 1: they're human. They're not man made.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: People are. And they're like and next on the news,
Speaker 1: you know, gas prices are up, and he's like, right
Speaker 1: over the people's dead. Because it's just.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people don't know what to
Speaker 3: do with it.
Speaker 1: That's I think that's it. And I'm one of them.
Speaker 1: I was like, so now what do I do it?
Speaker 1: Until they come down and they're like, okay, this is
Speaker 1: how it all works, which is like, okay, but why
Speaker 1: didn't you give me the instruction manual because you know
Speaker 1: I want an instruction man. I guess we do have
Speaker 1: an instruction manual. Rights. It's just like like you said, Ryan,
Speaker 1: you live a good life, don't be mean to people,
Speaker 1: you know, don't kill people, don't cheat, and there's that
Speaker 1: code of ethics. That's a nice instruction, man. But like
Speaker 1: we know so little, so little, and so that's why
Speaker 1: I think I'm such on this this quest of trying
Speaker 1: to figure out things because you know, you look at
Speaker 1: our past and it's a lot of lost history, and
Speaker 1: they want to try to explain things away. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I think I you know, I wrote
Speaker 1: a book, a young adult novel, and it was a
Speaker 1: dystopian novel, and in it I put like, you know,
Speaker 1: the world was kind of like all full of cement,
Speaker 1: broken cement, and people would go scavenging and they would
Speaker 1: find this the CD. They kind they put a finger
Speaker 1: in it and they're like, what do you think this
Speaker 1: is for? It is that it's a pocket mirror. Look
Speaker 1: as like that's what we do. We find things in
Speaker 1: the deserts, like oh, yeah, they buried, they're dead in there,
Speaker 1: and like they must have dragged these ginormous rocks ten
Speaker 1: thousand miles, you know, across the sand. How'd they do that? Oh,
Speaker 1: don't worry about that. Look over there and there's like
Speaker 1: laser cut stones. And then you're like, well, have they
Speaker 1: cut that with haverin chisel? Yeah, you know they had
Speaker 1: copper copper chisels back then. There's no way you could
Speaker 1: cut that rock. I don't don't ask that, Yeah they don't.
Speaker 1: They just kind of make up stuff. So we've made
Speaker 1: up this history about things we've found that we've had
Speaker 1: this lost history that we don't really know who we
Speaker 1: are and we don't really know what we're doing here,
Speaker 1: and then we just kind of like try to live
Speaker 1: as good of a life as we can within. But
Speaker 1: like I'd like to know, I'd like to know. I'm
Speaker 1: on the quest of like, okay, well, what's the what
Speaker 1: is the bigger thing? And that's I guess a lot
Speaker 1: of religions try to solve but in a you know,
Speaker 1: when you have religion, it becomes organized and it becomes
Speaker 1: about other things, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: try to stay in the spirituality, right, you know, which
Speaker 1: is not like my religion is better than your religion
Speaker 1: or we're going to go to toe to toe about it.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like spirituality isn't about what's best and
Speaker 1: whose ideas are best. It's about for me being open
Speaker 1: to it all, you know. And you know, and so
Speaker 1: I am. I mean, I don't have any definitive answers.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody does, right, So to say I
Speaker 1: have the definitive answer, it's impossible to say that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of the like confusion and
Speaker 3: the desire to be like what does it all mean?
Speaker 3: What do I do with this information? I feel like
Speaker 3: a lot of that probably comes from the whole like
Speaker 3: dance of duality between like your your meat body and
Speaker 3: your soul body, you know, because they are separate, but
Speaker 3: we feel like they're the same because it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's me, it's me, I'm me, I'm my soul or
Speaker 3: I'm my body or I'm whatever.
Speaker 1: But in reality, well, what's the question, right? What is me?
Speaker 3: Yes? You are actually all of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's like I have a hand, Does that
Speaker 1: mean am I my head? If I lose my arm?
Speaker 1: Do I become less? Mean?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 1: If I lost my arms and legs? Am I still
Speaker 1: not me? Right? You know what I mean? Ye, there's
Speaker 1: so many What is The me is the essence of
Speaker 1: the consciousness inside of you. That's the only mean you
Speaker 1: really have. Everything else is this, uh, you know, this
Speaker 1: mask of the persona that you've adopted. And also the
Speaker 1: me is very it's it's interchangeable, a right, So like
Speaker 1: I am right now, the mea that I'm talking to
Speaker 1: you is the guest on Bledsoe said, so, uh, the
Speaker 1: me I'm also an actor. The me is I'm also
Speaker 1: a father, I'm also a husband. I'm also the son
Speaker 1: of somebody. You know. Uh, there's so many means. So
Speaker 1: we're all dancing around playing all these parts of means.
Speaker 1: You're like, well, who's the real meed behind all that?
Speaker 1: Isn't any of those it's the awareness awareness, yea, of
Speaker 1: all of those means.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like watching it all happen, it's the it's like
Speaker 3: that infinite awareness behind it all. And I think, like
Speaker 3: I think the reason I don't know, just in my intuition,
Speaker 3: purely not, you know, And there are some ancient texts
Speaker 3: that would suggest that this might be what's going on,
Speaker 3: But I feel like it's we're little pieces of God
Speaker 3: or the infinite like consciousness, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 3: the big energy, the big ball of energy. We're little
Speaker 3: pieces of it. All of us are little pieces of it,
Speaker 3: and we're here to experience life for that thing because
Speaker 3: if it if it was just a floating ball up
Speaker 3: in space, it it doesn't really have anything to experience.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The whole energy can never be created or destroyed. It
Speaker 3: was always there, and then it just started breaking off
Speaker 3: pieces of itself and turning into people and grass and trees,
Speaker 3: and animals and so that it could experience everything and learn.
Speaker 3: You know who who was it was? It was it
Speaker 3: Amy that said no learning in heaven. There's no there's
Speaker 3: no learning in heaven. And I think so I believe
Speaker 3: it was. But but that really stuck with me, that
Speaker 3: you can't learn anything in heaven because it's perfect. Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I I used to say this to people, like,
Speaker 1: if you were all conscious, all knowing, uh, infinite being, right,
Speaker 1: what's the one thing that you can't have, the one
Speaker 1: thing that you can't understand?
Speaker 3: Pain?
Speaker 1: No, because you can create a duality for that and
Speaker 1: have the you know, the only way you create pain
Speaker 1: is to not know pain, right, So you can create
Speaker 1: duality for So what's the one thing you you just
Speaker 1: cannot fathom?
Speaker 3: H that's enough one? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's being finite. You can never if you're infinite,
Speaker 1: you can never understand what being having a beginning an
Speaker 1: end is. Right. So now the only way the only
Speaker 1: way I can understand how to be finite is to
Speaker 1: literally hide myself into something and forget that I'm this infinite,
Speaker 1: all knowing, all power the thing, so that I can
Speaker 1: have a beginning, a middle, and an end, and now
Speaker 1: I can understand, Like we have a hard time understanding infinite,
Speaker 1: Like it blows my mind, Well, what do you mean,
Speaker 1: never created, never destroyed? Everything we know has been created
Speaker 1: and ends, you know, I mean everything. Yeah, So, like
Speaker 1: I don't fully understand how anything could be infinite because
Speaker 1: I'm a fire night being. So it's a reversal of
Speaker 1: I'm going to trick myself into being, break myself into
Speaker 1: the pieces that are all finite, so I can experience that,
Speaker 1: and then there's a feedback loop to it, to the
Speaker 1: to the infinite source.
Speaker 3: I want to add to that. That's profound. If you
Speaker 3: have a mic, you need to drop it. Honestly, that's
Speaker 3: seriously profound.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Like how just I literally found out
Speaker 2: he was coming like two weeks before, you know. It
Speaker 2: was just kind of a sudden thing, and Brad was
Speaker 2: like can he come? I was like, heck, yeah, you
Speaker 2: can come inbody whoever you want. And spending three days
Speaker 2: and hearing these kind of things I was I think
Speaker 2: by the first night, I was like, dude, I don't
Speaker 2: want to put you on the spot, but will you
Speaker 2: come on our podcast? I didn't.
Speaker 1: When we started talking about spirals, because I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, everything's inspirals, right, Like you you look up
Speaker 1: at the universe, it's like the galaxy is a spiral.
Speaker 1: But then you go to the crown of your head
Speaker 1: and there's a spiral and like the you know, hurricane
Speaker 1: or like the weather pastern is inspiraling. So everything fine,
Speaker 1: So everything is u is its roidal field everything. And
Speaker 1: then I certainly okay, so if it's a spiral, is
Speaker 1: it that you have this black hole that is like
Speaker 1: literally like things are going in and going into it
Speaker 1: and coming out the other end. Are we in a
Speaker 1: black hole? Like, because where's that spiral leading to? You know,
Speaker 1: it's got to come out somewhere the other side. So
Speaker 1: maybe everything is just like leading into a black hole
Speaker 1: coming out of a black hole. Maybe the Big Bang
Speaker 1: is the black hole. And these are things that like
Speaker 1: I ponder and pertificate on, try to read up on
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out. And again it kind of
Speaker 1: like I think I understand it, and then it's like
Speaker 1: a grasp the hands slips away and then it's like okay,
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and get a Starbucks coffee.
Speaker 3: And yeah.
Speaker 2: So something that tripped me up was reading and I
Speaker 2: can't remember the source of this. It's just like some
Speaker 2: old quote, but it's like, you are the space between
Speaker 2: your thoughts. And I was like, WHOA, think about meditation right,
Speaker 2: Like you're you're kind of meditating and you're kind of
Speaker 2: trying to empty your mind to where you're having the
Speaker 2: less thoughts and in that space where you're not even
Speaker 2: really thinking, that's the real you. And I'm like, WHOA,
Speaker 2: that really makes sense. How often are a lot of these,
Speaker 2: I like to say, intrusive thoughts that come in on
Speaker 2: a daily basis, coming from some persona in our subconscious
Speaker 2: mind that's just trying to dictate certain behavior, like no,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get angry when you're cut off in the road,
Speaker 2: Oh you're really hungry, or oh you really want to
Speaker 2: do this or do that. But it's like, maybe I'm
Speaker 2: really not any of those thoughts, but I'm something even
Speaker 2: behind those. And then another thing, I've been reading this
Speaker 2: book off and on about hermetic magic. Are you familiar
Speaker 2: at all with like hermeticism.
Speaker 1: Peter, Yeah, I've read some of them, some of those books.
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 2: Cool. So there's this book I've been reading. I think
Speaker 2: it's called Hermetic Magic. Yeah, and something that seven Hermetic
Speaker 2: something the seven her Metic clause.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But something that was said in this book that I
Speaker 2: thought was really profound was it was talking about the
Speaker 2: original expression of consciousness. We talk about, you know, God,
Speaker 2: the infinite source whatever, as it was before we were here.
Speaker 2: And you know that old Socrates or Aristotle, I can't
Speaker 2: remember which one said know thyself. And when you go
Speaker 2: through these chambers of initiation in ancient Greece or ancient
Speaker 2: Persia or whatever, these mystery schools, and they would say,
Speaker 2: know thyself, that's the key to you know, enlightenment. And
Speaker 2: this book it poses that the original expression of this
Speaker 2: infinite consciousness was to know thyself. That it had a
Speaker 2: moment of self contemplation or inner reflection, and in that
Speaker 2: moment of inner reflection, another form of its consciousness was
Speaker 2: created that it is not even aware of because it's
Speaker 2: so infinite and so perfect. So it contemplates itself. A
Speaker 2: shadow of its own consciousness is created, and then that
Speaker 2: other consciousness goes and it's like, oh, well, I want
Speaker 2: to know myself. And it's just perpetually like self reflecting
Speaker 2: and self reflecting, where you go all the way down
Speaker 2: the scale, where we're like, I don't want to self reflect.
Speaker 2: I want to play video games. I have a job,
Speaker 2: I got to pay bill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the best way to ignore it, to like
Speaker 1: just kind of ignore all of it. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want think of it. I don't
Speaker 1: know about it. Yeah, And I think most of us
Speaker 1: end up doing that. But it's a I have a draw.
Speaker 1: I'm drawn to answering that question all the time. There's that,
Speaker 1: you know, the famous quota I think therefore I am right.
Speaker 1: You know that one who said, yeah, yeah, the little
Speaker 1: statues pondering lives that. I think therefore I am, and
Speaker 1: I always thought it should be. I think they have
Speaker 1: it backwards. I am therefore, I.
Speaker 2: Think, yeah, I agree, we.
Speaker 1: Are what we we? You know what? I am what
Speaker 1: I am. That's like the Popeye saying, but it's also
Speaker 1: like the saying of yahweh. It's the same of God,
Speaker 1: Like I am what I am. Whatever you say I
Speaker 1: am after, I am tired, I am hungry. I am
Speaker 1: going to win is what you become. So it's a
Speaker 1: very powerful thing. And I am. It's just the consciousness
Speaker 1: of whatever potential could be after the I am you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and so I am. Therefore I
Speaker 1: think kind of make more sense of me because the
Speaker 1: thinking comes out of the I am. Does that make
Speaker 1: sense to you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've read the exact same perspective. Impletely agree.
Speaker 1: Like I think we also talked about, like in meditation,
Speaker 1: the best way to get the thoughts of intrusive thoughts
Speaker 1: to stop. And I do this trick sometimes. It's like
Speaker 1: you sit by yourself and you say, I wonder what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think next, and then nothing comes. It's like
Speaker 1: the first time your mind is stumped. You're like you're
Speaker 1: onto me. Let it just drive you. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: You're getting all these thoughts and if you just go
Speaker 1: I wonder what I'm gonna think next, all in your
Speaker 1: mind is ghost town nothing.
Speaker 2: This brings us to a great point that I don't
Speaker 2: think you guys know about. And I think this would
Speaker 2: be a really fun conversation. Peter is a certified hit
Speaker 2: the therapist.
Speaker 3: No way, I had no idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I got certified over over COVID. I
Speaker 1: was I was always again fascinated with the mind frequencies
Speaker 1: and you know, mostly in beta all day long, and
Speaker 1: then we slip into alpha at times. And alpha state
Speaker 1: is where they sell you stuff. That's why on Instagram
Speaker 1: you're kind of like put it into alpha and like and
Speaker 1: I do this too. I'd be up it late at
Speaker 1: night and I'd be like, yeah, like the Shirley Temple Collection. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not a purb. I have a daughter. You really
Speaker 1: Temple Collection, all the all twelve CDs and they showed
Speaker 1: up your house and you're like, I don't remember ordering
Speaker 1: that because it's the middle of the night. You're in
Speaker 1: at this alpha state, you know, you're just like the
Speaker 1: TV comes on and they're selling you the Gainst you
Speaker 1: two knives and the the Shirley Temple Collection, and it's
Speaker 1: like uh, and you buy stuff. But that's where they
Speaker 1: you know, the alpha state is kind of this hypnotic
Speaker 1: state where you can suggest things to people. And so
Speaker 1: it's fun to to learn about those states because I think,
Speaker 1: you know, there's so much work that can be done
Speaker 1: in the alpha, the the gamma and the delta states
Speaker 1: that we don't really tune into because we're so busy
Speaker 1: trying to you know, in the in the beta state
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his cousin Dax was telling me that he did
Speaker 2: like a twenty minute session with Peter and he hasn't
Speaker 2: smoked a cigarette since it's been a year or two.
Speaker 2: And yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: I did one session with Dax and he was having
Speaker 1: a hard time and smoked for a decade maybe longer,
Speaker 1: and in one session he stopped. And then I had
Speaker 1: a friend icading and said, you know, uh, my ex wife,
Speaker 1: she's biting her nails a lot. Do you think you
Speaker 1: could help her? Yeah, sure, take care of it. One
Speaker 1: session she stopped biting her nails. And here's the funny part. I, I,
Speaker 1: you know, went to her house and I did suggestions
Speaker 1: for her, you know, and I bit my nails for
Speaker 1: the longest time too. I stopped biting mine too.
Speaker 3: Oh wow wow, Because as I was.
Speaker 1: Giving her a suggestion, it kind of helped me too,
Speaker 1: So like after that's so yeah, that's subconscious. Like the
Speaker 1: more I feel like I help other people, the more
Speaker 1: it kind of comes into my life as well. And
Speaker 1: so it was kind of lovely, Like I haven't bit
Speaker 1: my nails since I helped her, and she hasn't either,
Speaker 1: So it's pretty powerful. Pretty powerful. Have you ever done
Speaker 1: a hypnosis session.
Speaker 2: I have. I've had a couple of them, but that's
Speaker 2: just because of the UFO stuff like regressions and things. Ironically,
Speaker 2: though you might find this fascinating. I didn't believe in
Speaker 2: reincarnation or anything like that until I had a hypnotic
Speaker 2: regression and I had a pass life regression, and even
Speaker 2: though I didn't believe in it, I vividly saw past
Speaker 2: lives unfold, like very clearly, down to the minute detail
Speaker 2: like names, hair color, and I was like, whoa. It
Speaker 2: really shook me up. And I've had a couple of
Speaker 2: other regressions, but my recent experience has been at the
Speaker 2: Monroe Institute, where it's not really hypnotic regression. It's more
Speaker 2: like suggestive meditation. But I think it's kind of on
Speaker 2: the same spectrum, right.
Speaker 1: It's still because you're in this again, you're in the
Speaker 1: off of state they put you into off adulta gam
Speaker 1: and then when you're in that state, you're a lot
Speaker 1: more suggestible, and that's where your consciousness can travel too.
Speaker 1: So like it's about getting yourself. It's like getting yourself
Speaker 1: out of the way, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: like in it like this the bouncer at the door,
Speaker 1: you know, and it doesn't want to let you in.
Speaker 1: And when you do hypnosis, you either put the bouncer
Speaker 1: to sleep for a little while so that you can
Speaker 1: get into the club, or you keep the bouncer busy
Speaker 1: with an activity so you can get back into the
Speaker 1: inner workings of the mind that's subconscious, into the club
Speaker 1: of that you know, and then once you're in there,
Speaker 1: then you can plan.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Look, I could never make you do anything that you
Speaker 1: don't want to do or you know, because the mind
Speaker 1: is so strongly willed. But if you want to quit smoking,
Speaker 1: my suggestions will help you. If you want to stop
Speaker 1: buying your noise, my suggestions will help you. I can
Speaker 1: never make you cluck like a chicken unless you wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, to participate in that. And like, so, you
Speaker 1: wanted to experience these regressions in a way that took
Speaker 1: you back and traveled you into other timelines, and you
Speaker 1: were able to do that. But if you're resisting to
Speaker 1: it at all, or don't want to be there, don't
Speaker 1: want to quit ever quit smoking, you're like, I'm just
Speaker 1: doing this for my wife, like or my husband, Like,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna it's not gonna help you. That's why
Speaker 1: sometimes it fails. It's not the hippo's fault it is
Speaker 1: because it's like you got to actually be a participant
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got into the hypnotherapy stuff just because
Speaker 3: of like your fascination with the mind and yeah, the
Speaker 3: consciousness and like that kind of stuff. It was just
Speaker 3: like a it piqued your interest.
Speaker 1: You know. When I started acting, I was really shy,
Speaker 1: really shy and uh and I found that getting up
Speaker 1: in front of people, I have performance anxiety. I was
Speaker 1: like nineteen twenty. I wanted to be an actor, but
Speaker 1: it was like, I mean I was so shy in
Speaker 1: high school, Like I couldn't even get in the lunch line.
Speaker 1: I was like to like too afraid I dropped something
Speaker 1: and be like one of those moments where the whole
Speaker 1: cafteria starts laughing at you and I've did it done,
Speaker 1: you know. So I was like I would go to
Speaker 1: the back of the cafeteria, grab a pretzel on orange
Speaker 1: use and sit down before anybody saw me. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to. So I was like when I tell my
Speaker 1: friends I want to be an actor, We're like you.
Speaker 1: I was like a five foot two birds ago and
Speaker 1: I want to be in a basketball story and You're
Speaker 1: like you know, but for me, I found the playing
Speaker 1: characters actually I was in would be you know, I
Speaker 1: had full potential to like explore all parts of myself
Speaker 1: because people weren't looking at me, they were looking at
Speaker 1: this other person. But I still felt a little performance
Speaker 1: anxiety in the beginning, and I worked with a hypnotherapist
Speaker 1: and that helped me immensely because like it helped me
Speaker 1: shut off that that part of me that felt like, oh,
Speaker 1: these people were looking at me and judging me in and
Speaker 1: felt now I can actually relax into this character and
Speaker 1: be whoever and experience this other person and they're not
Speaker 1: looking at me, They're looking at this person. So that
Speaker 1: free gift to be and do whatever I wanted and
Speaker 1: within the context of the scenes.
Speaker 3: You know, that's wow, that's really cool. And you had
Speaker 3: that experience at such a young age too, at.
Speaker 1: Like twenty we won twenty twenty one before I did
Speaker 1: anything professional, and I remember going to class after I
Speaker 1: took the hypnotherapy course. I only did a couple of sessions,
Speaker 1: and I still would go every once in a while,
Speaker 1: like if I had a big movie or want to
Speaker 1: help the less. But I took this a couple of
Speaker 1: sessions and I remember going to class and they were like,
Speaker 1: what what did you do different? Like you're it's different,
Speaker 1: Like you're way freer and way more comfortable, and like
Speaker 1: that was an incredible scene. And like so the feedback
Speaker 1: loop was like it was working. It wasn't just in
Speaker 1: my mind. I'm like, oh these things, oh, like it
Speaker 1: was I was getting feedback from other people going, whatever
Speaker 1: you're doing, keep doing that, you know. So I always
Speaker 1: found it powerful. I've used it throughout my career, like
Speaker 1: to help free me up with characters or like I said,
Speaker 1: long sometimes you got long speeches that are intimidating. You're like,
Speaker 1: how am I gonna memorize that? And like, you know,
Speaker 1: you can, it's part of your job. But like your
Speaker 1: mind wants to go you can't do that, and then
Speaker 1: you go to have no therapy and you're like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you can. You can do it. And so it's helped
Speaker 1: me a lot. And then when COVID came about, I
Speaker 1: was like, well, why don't I just learn it and
Speaker 1: then I can like help other people or make myself tapes,
Speaker 1: you know, And so I've done that.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here pulling up your IMDb because I'm trying
Speaker 2: to find the name without interrupting of that movie that
Speaker 2: you and I were talking about at the river. It's
Speaker 2: one you were in you when you were very young,
Speaker 2: and it's like a part of movie what's it called?
Speaker 1: Oh, can't can Harley wait?
Speaker 2: Can't Harley wait? I still have to watch that, give
Speaker 2: me because we just binged all five Twilight and next
Speaker 2: is on Fire and then The Little Boy comes out.
Speaker 2: So I'm getting through the catalog, right, I've already started
Speaker 2: on Fire, by the way, and I love it, I
Speaker 2: really do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's a very pointing with what's going on
Speaker 1: with the in the Layer, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: I don't want to plug that while we're going through it.
Speaker 1: But like so many times, like I mean when I
Speaker 1: was now that we're actually going through these fires, I'm like,
Speaker 1: wow that there's so many things in that movie that
Speaker 1: we're kind of accurate, like the spot fires that happened,
Speaker 1: how the house rounded, you know. The dad was like,
Speaker 1: it's never going to come across that gorgeous way off
Speaker 1: of the distance, and literally I said that to my wife,
Speaker 1: my wife Billy. I was like, you know, it's pretty
Speaker 1: far away, so she goes, didn't you watch your own movie?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're right, like spotfires can happen because the
Speaker 1: members fly over and then all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: can be So you have to be prepared, even if
Speaker 1: it's not that close, like it could travel. Fires travel.
Speaker 1: So that's when I packed a bag. I packed the bag.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna get ready.
Speaker 2: You are already not to not to trivialize it, but
Speaker 2: it's just it's a the nose dude, So you guys
Speaker 2: might not be aware of this. He just directed and
Speaker 2: started in this movie called on Fire that came out
Speaker 2: in September, and we started at the night he left.
Speaker 2: But then we were at the airbnb. You know, I
Speaker 2: drove across town and Jenny was like, let's watch Twilight.
Speaker 2: I really want to watch Twilight. And then literally like
Speaker 2: over the next six or seven days we were watching
Speaker 2: the Twilight movie. So anyway, I got.
Speaker 1: Thirty years of movies for Ryan to catch up on.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, it's crazy, and I'm sitting here.
Speaker 2: I was pulling up your ID IMDb. I had no clue.
Speaker 2: You we're in the Scorpion King.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what an scoring game with the Rock. I
Speaker 1: always joked that I knew when he was a pebble
Speaker 1: because there's a personal movie. He was the nicest guy.
Speaker 1: Nice Guy was his first film. He crushed it. He's
Speaker 1: had a solid career and I loved working with him.
Speaker 2: Oh and yeah, dude, this is I really do have
Speaker 2: a lot of your work to catch up on. But no,
Speaker 2: that that is very strange, right, Like how the day
Speaker 2: you left, we're talking about this movie you made, and
Speaker 2: then it was like the next night those fires happened.
Speaker 2: I definitely took that very weird, like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: because that's what the movie's about.
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, we.
Speaker 1: Talk a lot about synchronicities a lot while we were
Speaker 1: together with your family too, Like there's so many synchronicities,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like the universe kind of giving
Speaker 1: you a wink, you know, like they're they're they're listening,
Speaker 1: or it's listening. It's working with you, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was telling Ryan there was this there was a
Speaker 1: time when I was doing some work with doctor Joe
Speaker 1: dispendive stuff, you know, listening to his meditations a lot.
Speaker 1: I went and did a retreat with doctor Joe to
Speaker 1: spended It was a really incredible experience. And you go
Speaker 1: through these meditations and you know, and you ask for
Speaker 1: the universe to give you these signs, you know that
Speaker 1: it's listening. And so I was driving to a photo
Speaker 1: shoot uh that that afternoon. I had done the meditation
Speaker 1: in the morning, and I said to and I remember
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, you know, maybe maybe the universe it's
Speaker 1: maybe it's like an algorithm. You know, the more you
Speaker 1: put your attention on something, the more you get of that.
Speaker 1: You know, you go on Instagram, you're looking at whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, and they give you more of that, and
Speaker 1: they just keep sending you more of those. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you like this, here's more. And so maybe that's what
Speaker 1: life is. And maybe the more you put your attention
Speaker 1: and awareness on something, the more you're gonna see it
Speaker 1: in your life. And and so maybe, you know, instead
Speaker 1: of focusing on frustration, you should focus on on you know,
Speaker 1: gratitude and just kind of and then you'll get more
Speaker 1: of that. And so I said, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: in Ghostbusters, when you know, they say, don't think of
Speaker 1: the State Puff marshmallow Man, and then he does, and
Speaker 1: then the State Puff marshmallow Man comes down and I
Speaker 1: started laughing to myself. I said, maybe that's what life's about, right,
Speaker 1: And so I go to this photo shoot and then
Speaker 1: I'm doing the photo shoot for at while and photographer say, well,
Speaker 1: let's go up in the balcony and do There's like
Speaker 1: a little like loft and you go up this wooden ladder.
Speaker 1: There's nothing up there but a couch and uh. And
Speaker 1: so I got. I climbed up this ladder to the
Speaker 1: top of this loft. It's a platform with a couch.
Speaker 1: The only thing on the couch was a stuffed animal
Speaker 1: of the State puff marshmallow Man. And I had to
Speaker 1: look at the internet. That's funny. That's funny because when
Speaker 1: was the last time I saw the State of margin
Speaker 1: on in the eighties? When was the last time you
Speaker 1: saw a stuffed animal version of the State pup marshallow.
Speaker 1: I don't think i've ever.
Speaker 3: Ever, Yeah, never.
Speaker 1: For it to be downloaded and dropped into this loft
Speaker 1: that I just happen to be in is more than coincidence.
Speaker 1: It has to be the synchronicities of like the universe
Speaker 1: kind of going. I think you're onto something.
Speaker 2: You definitely have a very genuine uh. I say this
Speaker 2: in a humble way, like in the most positive way possible.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I'll just say it, you definitely have a
Speaker 2: powerful vibe about you. And I say that, Peter, because
Speaker 2: I've already told you this twice now, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say it a third time because I think the audience
Speaker 2: may appreciate this perspective. And they already know about the
Speaker 2: sky watches and all the stuff that we've got going on,
Speaker 2: you know, so it's not news to them. But the
Speaker 2: last time I saw one hundred orbs in one night
Speaker 2: was with a crowd of two hundred people. Please please,
Speaker 2: I want to see. I want to see. And then
Speaker 2: you know, here here you come in too, other guys
Speaker 2: and more skywatching, and we see a hundred orbs and
Speaker 2: you guys are like, oh yeah, wow, that's really cool,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what this is crazy. So I knew
Speaker 2: right then and there that you guys were for real,
Speaker 2: that you're genuine, that you're very serious. And I definitely
Speaker 2: meant what I said when I said you were part
Speaker 2: of our family, and like, yeah, yeah, And I told
Speaker 2: you that, like I believe that that whatever is up
Speaker 2: there running the show is bringing us together. You and
Speaker 2: other people like us, like people of like minds, so
Speaker 2: that we can wield our knowledge to help others be
Speaker 2: aware of what we're aware of, right to tap into
Speaker 2: what we're tapping into. And it's it's a very wonderful experience.
Speaker 2: I definitely felt a little weird, not in a bad way,
Speaker 2: but a little like meta like surreal, and you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, like when you're like, whoa, oh my god,
Speaker 2: what is life? When you were on the plane that
Speaker 2: day and Jenny was like, Ryan, please, I want to
Speaker 2: start Twilight tonight. I want to start Twilight tonight. And
Speaker 2: we throw on the movie and and I had literally
Speaker 2: just come off the heels of spending seventy seventy two
Speaker 2: hours with you, and then you showed up on the
Speaker 2: screen and I just paused it and I was like, Jenny,
Speaker 2: this is weird, right, this is really weird. And it
Speaker 2: was amazing. But yeah, I'm on that quest with you.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I feel what you feel where you like you're feel
Speaker 2: grasping something. But what do I do with it? Let's
Speaker 2: just share it, Let's bring other people on the quest
Speaker 2: with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I believe that, And that's why I'm here
Speaker 1: and charge is here trying to figure it all out
Speaker 1: and go, hey, you guys out there, like what do
Speaker 1: you guys saying? How do you guys think about it?
Speaker 1: Like I think we're all trying to figure it out together,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the two of you very much are the same archetype,
Speaker 3: me and Peter. Yeah, oh yeah, no, I felt for
Speaker 3: sure that like seeker archetype, a desperate seeker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know, you know what's funny, Like
Speaker 1: Ryan also, you said when you when you had a
Speaker 1: hard time in the beginning, like because your dad had
Speaker 1: seen stuff, your brother had seen stuff, and then you
Speaker 1: were like, well I'm not seeing things like why why
Speaker 1: am I not experiencing it right? And And I kind
Speaker 1: of felt that a little bit when I left because
Speaker 1: I saw the orbs. You know, I didn't know that
Speaker 1: you hadn't seen many of them, so I thought one
Speaker 1: hundred of nights normal. So I'm just like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is a fun show. Thanks, thanks, you know, Orbs, that
Speaker 1: was a cool show. See you next Tuesday. Because we
Speaker 1: went out to the beach like the next night and
Speaker 1: we saw at least thirty of them. It was a cloudy,
Speaker 1: rainy night and they were like low on the on
Speaker 1: the horizon, red, they were shooting up in the sky.
Speaker 2: They were over Yeah.
Speaker 1: They were over the ocean. So I just thought that
Speaker 1: that's a normal currents. I love to take full credit
Speaker 1: for it, but honestly, is a collective thing. I think.
Speaker 1: I think you that whoever was with us in that group,
Speaker 1: Brad and Dax and your dad and you, like us
Speaker 1: together was creating some magical moments with them. And I
Speaker 1: think it's a lot of it, like your dad says,
Speaker 1: just having your heart open and believing and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, humble, I'm here humbly and a humble way
Speaker 1: to please allow yourself to be seen and then and
Speaker 1: then maybe you'll see it. But what I left, uh,
Speaker 1: you know my cousin Dax, it was on an airplane
Speaker 1: and he was like, I saw one of the orbs
Speaker 1: and like took a video of it outside of it.
Speaker 1: And your dad was like, I followed you home, and
Speaker 1: he was like, my cousind like has seen a few
Speaker 1: of them through the years, so like he gets so excited,
Speaker 1: and I was excited for him. And then Brad had
Speaker 1: a great experience where you know, his house was in
Speaker 1: the middle of these fires in the Alta. Dina and
Speaker 1: all of the homes around him kind of burnt down,
Speaker 1: and and his didn't, you know, his didn't. And when
Speaker 1: he went to the front porch, he had this there
Speaker 1: was a there was this like photo of this like
Speaker 1: you have behind you of this like a motherly figure,
Speaker 1: a lady she has you know in the in the
Speaker 1: in the picture is probably like the Virgin Mary, which
Speaker 1: is known by many names, so it's not just one religion, uh,
Speaker 1: But like it was like on his porch, which is
Speaker 1: like such a synchronicity of like protection, right, and then
Speaker 1: there was a fiery it like burnt all around her
Speaker 1: except for her image like completely like burned all around
Speaker 1: except burned. And his house was standing in a you know,
Speaker 1: on a block where everyone else went down. It was
Speaker 1: just like it was like divinely protected, which was beautiful
Speaker 1: and such a synchronicity. What an incredible experience to have
Speaker 1: and and what an incredible experience for Texas. And I'm
Speaker 1: outside looking up every night for orbs since and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting I'm not getting anything, guys, you will
Speaker 1: so like me, I think I remembered you saying like
Speaker 1: I was frustrated with not you know, seeing more of
Speaker 1: than but I also am I'm humbly sitting or going.
Speaker 1: You know, they'll come when they want to come. I'll
Speaker 1: keep looking, I'll keep seeking, and and I don't want
Speaker 1: to live in a frustration because if you live in
Speaker 1: that vibration, then you get more frustration.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, but it's a lifelong connection for you now,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: How do you deal with it? Though? Like, like I
Speaker 1: remember you saying like I was like, how come I'm
Speaker 1: not saying your dad said what to you? Because this
Speaker 1: was really beautiful. He had some really nice words to
Speaker 1: say to you. Do you remember, Yes, I do.
Speaker 2: I remember the exact story I told you where it
Speaker 2: was like. At this point, I was eighteen and I
Speaker 2: had only seen orbs far away. I had never seen
Speaker 2: an entity up close. And I was just like, why
Speaker 2: can't I see him up close? I want to see
Speaker 2: them up close. I wanted to come talk to me.
Speaker 2: And you know, I had seen plenty of orbs. I
Speaker 2: knew they were real. I was having experiences, but I
Speaker 2: wasn't getting anything like crazy yet. And Dad was like, son,
Speaker 2: you got to be patient because God's time is not
Speaker 2: like our time. A thousand years to us is like
Speaker 2: one day in the mind of God, like you have
Speaker 2: to understand that these things are playing out on a
Speaker 2: much bigger picture. You have to be patient and know
Speaker 2: that your time is coming when it's meant to. And
Speaker 2: then that's when I heard all those cowls that were
Speaker 2: like as brad As cribe, like in the air, moving
Speaker 2: all around us, and I was like, whoa that was
Speaker 2: like in denial about it, but no, it's exactly right,
Speaker 2: Like think about this man, you left our house a
Speaker 2: week and like, I don't know what is today Wednesday,
Speaker 2: a week and two days ago, and you're you're outside, like.
Speaker 3: God, you know to see it?
Speaker 2: I want to see it, dude, this is only the
Speaker 2: beginning for the rest of your life. You have this connection,
Speaker 2: and I can like, right hand to God, I would
Speaker 2: dump any infinite amount of my life savings or any
Speaker 2: the highest stakes wager that can possibly be made. I
Speaker 2: will make that for you right now that your time
Speaker 2: is coming, and what has happened for you is the
Speaker 2: beginning of your connection to where now you're aware of
Speaker 2: its presence.
Speaker 3: So the new.
Speaker 2: Model of learning that you're undergoing right now is like, Okay,
Speaker 2: how do I navigate this? How do I navigate knowing
Speaker 2: that They're there, and they're always there, even if I'm
Speaker 2: not seeing it when I look up. I can't tell
Speaker 2: you how many times I walk outside and I've seen
Speaker 2: them thousands and thousands of times.
Speaker 3: And I go.
Speaker 2: Outside and I say, oh, I would love to see
Speaker 2: something and I don't and I'm like, oh, okay, well
Speaker 2: thanks anyway. And then some nights I walk out of
Speaker 2: my mailbox and it's boom boom, boom boom, not even thinking,
Speaker 2: and there's ten there. And that's how it works. It's
Speaker 2: just like sometimes it's spontaneous, sometimes it's at request. It's
Speaker 2: it's not there's no algorithm here. It's yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: spiritual thing. And the most important thing is just too
Speaker 2: just to understand that they are there, that the connection
Speaker 2: is there. They're aware of you, they have a relationship
Speaker 2: with you, and they're you know, watching you, and they're
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say testing you. It's more so like
Speaker 2: gently pulling you along and helping you grow at a
Speaker 2: at a at a good pace so that your mind
Speaker 2: just doesn't unravel. Because if you're seeing them every night, dude,
Speaker 2: just like, what do I do? I can't go function
Speaker 2: at a job seeing all this crap every night in
Speaker 2: the sky.
Speaker 3: What do I do?
Speaker 2: I just want to do this all the time, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna be it is letting, letting go to
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, when you let things come
Speaker 1: to you. So it's like you go out there, You're like,
Speaker 1: I got to see you gotta see. Then it's like
Speaker 1: but your dad's like the phone and he's like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's elbowing the juke and there's just like I'm
Speaker 3: sure y'all probably talked about this, but I mean many
Speaker 3: years ago, this this was not how it was. It
Speaker 3: was like you'd be lucky to see one. Yeah, many Like.
Speaker 2: That's the same thing on when he was yeah, like
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3: Is like I mean when I first heard, when they
Speaker 3: first told me, like what was going on, and I
Speaker 3: was hanging around. I was at their house all the time,
Speaker 3: like I basically lived there from since I was what
Speaker 3: thirteen something like fourteen, and I wanted to see you
Speaker 3: know something for years. It was years. Yeah I saw
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I mean it was well, I was probably
Speaker 3: I think like seventeen. I would say I was probably
Speaker 3: seventeen or eighteen something like that before I saw one
Speaker 3: and these days. I think it's just there's been so
Speaker 3: many energetic shifts between then and now. Yeah, that it's
Speaker 3: just it's more accessible.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're seeing him more, you're talking about it more.
Speaker 1: Even like fifteen years ago, like you couldn't even have
Speaker 1: this conversation because people would be like, you're crazy, Oh
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, And I think your dad has experienced that.
Speaker 1: And Ryan, you've experienced that. And it's like what I
Speaker 1: told your dad is like, I mean, the fortitude that
Speaker 1: your dad had to be like, no, I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm seeing. And even though, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have had that strength,
Speaker 1: you know, because if someone if I had that experience
Speaker 1: that night and everyone's like, you're crazy, you didn't see it,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get your kids taken away, You're gonna get
Speaker 1: your life's gonna fall apart. I've been like, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: I didn't say it. I'm gonna go back to work,
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, you know, but he was
Speaker 1: so you know, he just was unmovable with his with
Speaker 1: his strength and uh. And it's in the clarity of
Speaker 1: like I don't care what people say, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: the truth. And this is what I saw and this
Speaker 1: is how it was.
Speaker 4: And and that that that's such such admiration and and uh,
Speaker 4: we're fact for someone who has that fortitude.
Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate you saying that, man, and I
Speaker 2: just want to impress on you, and you have so
Speaker 2: much more wisdom and life experience than me. But the
Speaker 2: one thing that I do have is, you know, just
Speaker 2: like boots on the ground with this particular thing, and
Speaker 2: it's the one thing I know, right, And what I
Speaker 2: want to impress on you is that you know, you
Speaker 2: could go out there for the next year and not
Speaker 2: see anything. But the lesson here is just know that
Speaker 2: they are there, and that they didn't just show up
Speaker 2: and give you that brilliant show one hundred different lights,
Speaker 2: sometimes five or six at a time, just for no reason.
Speaker 2: It was a very intentional thing. It was a conscious
Speaker 2: participation on their end as much as it was on
Speaker 2: your end. And that doorway has been opened. My dad,
Speaker 2: and I told you this over and over again. You're
Speaker 2: gonna go home and you're gonna see it. I promise
Speaker 2: you you're going to see it. And it's just a
Speaker 2: matter of right time, right mindset, right circum stances, and
Speaker 2: things going on, and this is the beginning of a
Speaker 2: whole new journey for you and everyone who sees it.
Speaker 2: I know this because everyone, thousands of people that we've
Speaker 2: shared this with, and they go home and they see it,
Speaker 2: and next thing you know, people are putting up videos
Speaker 2: and they're filming it, and it just it's spirals and spirals.
Speaker 1: I had one hundred percent believe that, and I believe that
Speaker 1: if you're open and you bring into your awareness and
Speaker 1: you have it, then you'll see it again because now
Speaker 1: you know what's there, and there's a I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys know this, but I remember reading that
Speaker 1: the Native Americans they they would they wouldn't see the
Speaker 1: ships that were coming in when when the pilgrims were
Speaker 1: coming in and like taking you know, coming into the land,
Speaker 1: because they never saw white men. They never saw ships
Speaker 1: like that, so their consciousness would not see the ships.
Speaker 1: The ships would all a sudden appear and they'd be like,
Speaker 1: I never saw the ships coming because as they looked
Speaker 1: out to the ocean, their eyes just wouldn't see them
Speaker 1: because they weren't they never experienced anything like it, so
Speaker 1: they were visible though they had no frame of reference.
Speaker 1: To a giant boat full of pilgrims coming into their chores.
Speaker 1: So they were like, I didn't where did this boat
Speaker 1: come from? So so not until like one person saw it,
Speaker 1: then they all started it because it was became this
Speaker 1: conscious awareness thing where once people started seeing it and
Speaker 1: understood what they were, then they couldn't unsee them, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But that's kind of like I
Speaker 1: was talking to somebody today. You know, there's the mile
Speaker 1: run or something where there was a for like fifty years,
Speaker 1: nobody could break the time of like how fast a
Speaker 1: man could run within a mile, and and like nobody
Speaker 1: could break this one record. They thought it was impossible
Speaker 1: to break. And then one time one person broke it,
Speaker 1: and immediately after that one person broke it, high school
Speaker 1: kids broke the record, like kids, people all over the
Speaker 1: world started breaking this record. So there's this this limitation
Speaker 1: of belief that happens, or unawareness that that there's a
Speaker 1: global consciousness of something, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: once that that awareness, that limitation is broken, then it's
Speaker 1: like everybody can can see it. And I think that's coming.
Speaker 1: I think that day is coming.
Speaker 3: I think it's called morphogenetic resonance. Yes, there are tests
Speaker 3: they've done with like rats and stuff too. Oh and
Speaker 3: there's there's yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Why when they'm looking for the ketchup in the refrigerator,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't see it. Where where's the where's
Speaker 1: the ketchup?
Speaker 2: That's a little different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wild though. It's like if one rat on
Speaker 3: one side of the planet learns this complex maze, almost
Speaker 3: immediately on the other side of the planet, a rat
Speaker 3: will all of a sudden know how to complete the amaze. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all over the there's species of coral where simultaneously, all
Speaker 3: over the planet, instantaneously at the exact same time, they'll
Speaker 3: all spore, all of them, like regardless of the weather
Speaker 3: conditions or the light like night or day or anything like, instantaneously,
Speaker 3: all of the same species.
Speaker 1: Wolf.
Speaker 2: That's really profound. The one time where there was like
Speaker 2: this monkey, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, I read about that too, the money in the
Speaker 1: banana with a stick or something, and then like a
Speaker 1: hunch of monkey, it's a hundred monkeys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're as.
Speaker 1: Soon as like a certain amount of the monkeys like
Speaker 1: I used to or forty of them used the tool,
Speaker 1: and it became like it all shifted where all of
Speaker 1: them did it, like at the beginning, like none of
Speaker 1: them was doing it, and then five and then ten
Speaker 1: it wasn't enough. And then there was one shift of
Speaker 1: a certain amount, and then all of a sudden all
Speaker 1: of them were able to do it. And and then
Speaker 1: I also read about you ever read about the flea.
Speaker 1: Then the flee can only jump. It could if you
Speaker 1: put in a glass, it would jump out of the glass, right.
Speaker 1: But they put a Siran wrap on top of the glass.
Speaker 1: So every time the fleet would jump, it would only
Speaker 1: get to a certain height. After a while, it got
Speaker 1: so exhausted it would only jump to that just short
Speaker 1: of that height because and they took the saran wrap off,
Speaker 1: and it would only jump to that height. It could
Speaker 1: never jump out of the you know, out of the glass,
Speaker 1: because it only thought, oh, this is all high as
Speaker 1: I could jump you, but even more wow, they introduced
Speaker 1: a bunch of other fleas, and because that one flee
Speaker 1: could only jump a certain amount, all the other fleas
Speaker 1: and its offsprings could only jump to that same thing
Speaker 1: because it learned from that one fleet that, oh, this
Speaker 1: is only as high as we can go. So the
Speaker 1: limited belief of things is such a powerful thing, and
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reason why I love Noses.
Speaker 1: I think it actually helps open up, you know, and
Speaker 1: get over limited beliefs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very powerful story.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's wild. The thing with the fleas, that's so crazy.
Speaker 2: I know about that one. I love that. The morphogenetic residence.
Speaker 2: If you look that up you'll find a lot more.
Speaker 2: It's very fascinating, like we're all connected in some web
Speaker 2: of consciousness. But I want to be respectful of your time.
Speaker 2: If you have a little bit of time left, I
Speaker 2: would love to shift gears and let's talk some movies.
Speaker 2: Are you cool with that? We can and then well
Speaker 2: we'll kind of round out the show, leaving the audience
Speaker 2: with an understanding of Unbreakable Boy. It's about whatever you're
Speaker 2: willing to or allowed to talk about whatever. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I've got to ask some Twilight questions. Is that okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So something I'm very curious about. I think everybody thinks this.
Speaker 2: Everybody the billions of people around the world who are
Speaker 2: not actors and who are not like on the end
Speaker 2: of this industry, right, we see all these characters, we
Speaker 2: see all these roles, and it's like you have to think, man,
Speaker 2: that's so cool you. I mean, I don't even know
Speaker 2: how to ask this.
Speaker 3: I think you know what.
Speaker 2: I'm getting at, Like, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: That's the question.
Speaker 2: The question is, like, what's it like, dude, to be
Speaker 2: a major character, a part of like a major franchise
Speaker 2: that's a household name that everybody knows and is adored
Speaker 2: by millions, if not billions of people around the world.
Speaker 2: Like what's that like? You know, like I'm always wondering
Speaker 2: what is it like to be in that spot? Do
Speaker 2: you love it?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Are you proud of it? Is it?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't really think much of it outside
Speaker 1: of like, you know, it's my job when I go
Speaker 1: do my job, and then oh, people like this, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Oh people didn't like that one. Oh that's cool. Like
Speaker 1: it's art that you're always kind of making, right, So,
Speaker 1: like it's always as an actor, you're always like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'd love to do something that the appeals to the mass,
Speaker 1: you know, that would be wonderful. And then Twilight was
Speaker 1: that for me, Like I for years, you know, we
Speaker 1: got it was a part of this thing, and even
Speaker 1: today where you everywhere you go, like the people have
Speaker 1: seen that movie, and it feels great that somebody has
Speaker 1: seen your work. I've done thirty years of movies, so
Speaker 1: like sometimes people might not have seen that and they've
Speaker 1: seen one other one. And I always joke, hey, I
Speaker 1: try to make something for everybody. You don't like romantic,
Speaker 1: you know stuff, I did the sci fi thing, or
Speaker 1: I did this movie with a rock, or I try
Speaker 1: to move around and do action in comedy drama because
Speaker 1: I also love to explore different facets of myself. So like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to do this one thing
Speaker 1: all the time, so like when like, what do you
Speaker 1: want to do next, I'm like, well, something I haven't
Speaker 1: done before that would be fun. So like I always joke,
Speaker 1: if I put all my characters in one room and
Speaker 1: it's like all the characters I've played, they would be
Speaker 1: a fun party because they're all kind of so different
Speaker 1: from each other, and there are actors that that love
Speaker 1: to play them. You know, they did play versions of
Speaker 1: just themselves, you know, and then you get mad at
Speaker 1: them if they're skew from that. You're like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to see that person do an accent. I just
Speaker 1: want to see them be there. But like for me,
Speaker 1: the I love disappearing inside of so soone A fan
Speaker 1: is like, I didn't know you were the same actors
Speaker 1: and ken haarthy Waite as you were, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: nurse Jackie and or I didn't know you were a
Speaker 1: nurse Jackie. I didn't know those were the same actor
Speaker 1: That to me is the best compliment because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's fun. They were seeing the person I created and
Speaker 1: not not me. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's also a quest, you know, to try to figure
Speaker 1: out who I am. Like I'm always searching, like, well,
Speaker 1: what parts of myself have? And I explored you know,
Speaker 1: uh what you know, I played the bad guy, I
Speaker 1: played the good guy. I play the comedy, played the action.
Speaker 1: Like what can I what other things can I experience?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: And that's the fun of acting for me, is like
Speaker 1: I get to have all these experiences of all these
Speaker 1: multiple lives in one lifetime. You know, I've died many
Speaker 1: i'ms on screen and lived many times. I screened and
Speaker 1: played vampires and played fire fighters and lawyers and doctors.
Speaker 1: And I always looking at like it's to me, it's
Speaker 1: like the cruise ship of life. You know. It's like
Speaker 1: you go to on a cruise ship, and you get
Speaker 1: off and you visit a port, and I'll never know
Speaker 1: what it's like to live at that port, but I
Speaker 1: got to visit it. And then I get back on
Speaker 1: the ship and I go to this other port, and
Speaker 1: I get off, and I experienced, you know, that land
Speaker 1: for a little And that's what acting is for me.
Speaker 1: Like I get off my little you know, port of myself,
Speaker 1: and I get to experience what it's like to be
Speaker 1: a doctor. But I'll never know what it's like to
Speaker 1: be a real doctor, but I'll experience the taste of it,
Speaker 1: you know. And then I get back on and I
Speaker 1: now I'm a vampire, and now I'm the lawyer, and
Speaker 1: now and like within the lawyer, they're not those are occupations.
Speaker 1: But there are people. I've played three doctors, ones different
Speaker 1: and different things, and people like, oh, you play a
Speaker 1: lot of doctor roles. I'm like, nah, they they had doctors,
Speaker 1: but each one of them are very different.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: If you if you look at Carlisle Colin next to
Speaker 1: doctor Coop from Nurse Jackie, those two people couldn't be
Speaker 1: more different. Like one of them, Rock Rock in the family,
Speaker 1: somebody you look up to and the other ones like
Speaker 1: this child like like thirty fifteen year old kid, grown
Speaker 1: man's body is always saying the wrong thing, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's funny. So it's like they play on my vision,
Speaker 1: but they're completely different people. And the other doctor I
Speaker 1: played was like, you know, sexually assault somebody and you're like, whoa,
Speaker 1: it's and I and then I would go like hey,
Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, I watched that movie, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, so excited you were in it, though, was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, he's doing bad things in the cap. But
Speaker 1: if you clap when I died, then I did a
Speaker 1: good job. Yeah, that's you know, sometimes you got a
Speaker 1: root for the for the bad guy to die, and
Speaker 1: then that's exciting too. So for me it's like I
Speaker 1: don't think about, oh, I walk out of my house
Speaker 1: and this fandom and it's a red carpet premiers. I
Speaker 1: just like, I love the work and then if people
Speaker 1: like it and dig it cool, you know, some people don't,
Speaker 1: and if that's okay, I'll make something else for somebody else.
Speaker 1: But but to me, it's a job. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I I was just as excited to meet you. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're a celebrity in your your world, and what
Speaker 1: your dad has experienced to me is way more exciting
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, you know. So so like
Speaker 1: I look, I think I find same is the it's
Speaker 1: all subjective, you know, and like I never tap into
Speaker 1: that part of it or what's it feel like to
Speaker 1: be this It's just like I go to work, I
Speaker 1: do my gig. I try to go and do it
Speaker 1: the best I can, and then I give it over
Speaker 1: and sometimes I direct and try to make the best
Speaker 1: I can out of that story. And then you give
Speaker 1: that art over to an audience and then you kind
Speaker 1: of it's a it's a two way street, you know.
Speaker 1: You give over this art and if nobody shows up,
Speaker 1: then you're the tree that fell in the forest. So
Speaker 1: I'm always hoping people show up and love it or
Speaker 1: hate it. They're talking about it and enjoying it and
Speaker 1: in some way or you know, having a discussion about it.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, It's it's not something I look
Speaker 1: at from an outside of perspective. What's it like? Because
Speaker 1: I mean I could ask you what's it like being like,
Speaker 1: you know, see orbs, and I don't think you ever go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so cool. I walk around people like you're the
Speaker 1: guys desorbs, like you just kind of go out and
Speaker 1: you experience it and then it's your life. So it's
Speaker 1: not like it's not like something that feels any different
Speaker 1: than what somebody else is doing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It just happens to be my job. But I'm blessed.
Speaker 1: I do feel blessed, you know. I'm excited. And every
Speaker 1: time I get to have an experience of, like you know,
Speaker 1: making a movie or playing a character and really do
Speaker 1: the getting into the work of the role and trying
Speaker 1: to craft a you know, performance, and that's that's exciting
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: That's very profound.
Speaker 3: You're a true artist, That's what I'm getting. You're a
Speaker 3: true artist.
Speaker 2: That was a profound answer. That's what I was looking for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not thinking about the like you said, thinking
Speaker 3: about it from the outside. You're like, Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 3: engaging in my art and I'm gonna put it out
Speaker 3: there and if people like it, sweet awesome. If they don't,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go do the next art piece anyway.
Speaker 3: You know. I respect that a lot, I really do
Speaker 3: because and I I also.
Speaker 1: Don't buy into thing because it's subjective. It's like I
Speaker 1: remember being out once and I was at a borrow
Speaker 1: with my friends. This big guy comes over. He goes, hey,
Speaker 1: can I have your autograph? You're not sure? Can I
Speaker 1: take a picture of you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No problem. And I'm always like very approachable because I
Speaker 1: also am fans of people. So if I ever went
Speaker 1: up to somebody with like, hey, can I have an
Speaker 1: honor and they said no, beat it, I'd be like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: like I feel bad. So I always am like he
Speaker 1: let me FaceTime your grandma, let me and I call
Speaker 1: your sister, because I want to be able to like
Speaker 1: make sure that somebody, if they like my work, I'm
Speaker 1: engaging with them and they have a good experience with me,
Speaker 1: and because the work I do is for them, you know,
Speaker 1: And so I'm happy to meet them. And so I
Speaker 1: took a picture and an autograph sented him and my
Speaker 1: friend said, oh, my god, do you know who that was?
Speaker 1: And I said no. He goes, oh, he's a football
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback for this so and so blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't watch football. I didn't know,
Speaker 1: so to him, I was famous. To my friend, that
Speaker 1: guy's famous, you know. What I mean. So it's like
Speaker 1: I can never live my life of like, well don't
Speaker 1: you know who I am? Because it doesn't matter, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like fame is relative to what people are watching
Speaker 1: or what people are seeing and like and and if
Speaker 1: you're watching my stuff and liking it, I'll make you.
Speaker 1: I'll make more for you. I hope you keep watching.
Speaker 1: And speaking of speaking of, here's a good sagay because
Speaker 1: A Breakable Boy comes out in February. Super excited about
Speaker 1: a Breakable Boy because it's a book that you know,
Speaker 1: we talk a lot about synchronicities, and so I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you the story. It's my brother in law
Speaker 1: calls me up. He ends a pharmacy in New York
Speaker 1: and he said, hey, Pete, he knows nothing about the business.
Speaker 1: He said, a guy walked into my pharmacy. He wrote
Speaker 1: a book. You should make it into a movie, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's cool, but it's hard to get a
Speaker 1: book made into a movie, like you know, because you're
Speaker 1: trying to make one. But like this one's like that
Speaker 1: guy walks into you know, pharmacy with a book. Everybody
Speaker 1: there's a lot of books out there, and so it's
Speaker 1: almost impossible to write a script and make one because
Speaker 1: you have to give it to somebody that to read.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred and twenty pages. Getting somebody to read
Speaker 1: a full on book and being like, hey, can you
Speaker 1: read this book? I want to make it into a
Speaker 1: script that make it to me is almost damn near
Speaker 1: impossible in my industry. And so I said, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: that's nice, and and he goes. I told him you're
Speaker 1: gonna meet with him. He's coming to LA. I said,
Speaker 1: why did you do that? And I was like, do
Speaker 1: you know this guy? He's like no. I said, well,
Speaker 1: now I feel bad. I said I'll just I'll have
Speaker 1: lunch with him because I hate saying no to people.
Speaker 1: Then and he wrote a book, and so I actually,
Speaker 1: he's like, I'll send you a copy, and he I said,
Speaker 1: did you read it? No, I didn't read it.
Speaker 3: It's just a completely random guy guy.
Speaker 1: That's a book. So I was like, I started skimming
Speaker 1: through it. I was like, this is kind of good.
Speaker 1: It's a dad and he has an autistic son, and
Speaker 1: it's really a beautiful story about how he felt like
Speaker 1: he was failing. And then he realized how how you know, uh,
Speaker 1: his son had more to teach him about love and
Speaker 1: life than he could ever possibly teach him, and like
Speaker 1: and how he formed this beautiful relationship with this And
Speaker 1: I was like, it's a true story. It was a beautiful,
Speaker 1: you know story, and and like I was like, that's
Speaker 1: a cool book. But when I met with him, I
Speaker 1: had no intention of like I'm going to take this on.
Speaker 1: I have so much on my plate. I said like, look,
Speaker 1: I love the book, Like what are you doing with it?
Speaker 1: And he said, uh, I have some some producers on it.
Speaker 1: And I was just giving him some advice. You know,
Speaker 1: the producers that he had on it. We're trying to
Speaker 1: get him to pay for a script. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: you don't pay for a script. You have the IP.
Speaker 1: They should pay for the script. Like I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to like help him so they don't he doesn't get
Speaker 1: taken advantage of. And then like three months later, you know,
Speaker 1: he texted me once in a while, what do you
Speaker 1: think of this? Wait? Man? I text him, go back
Speaker 1: to my stuff. About three months later he said, hey,
Speaker 1: those producers fell off. Do you want to do it
Speaker 1: with me? I was like, well, you know, I look,
Speaker 1: I got a lot on my plate, but I like
Speaker 1: the story enough where I said, let me, let me try.
Speaker 1: I'll take it on. And so I give the book
Speaker 1: to my agents, I give it to my manager, and
Speaker 1: three months later they still hadn't read it. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: did you guys ever read that book? Oh no, did
Speaker 1: you send it to me? Put in your mailbox, drove
Speaker 1: by your house and put in your mailbox, and you
Speaker 1: tell me. And so everyone's in a while of a meeting,
Speaker 1: and you know, I pitch a couple of things, like
Speaker 1: I got this book, and let's start talking about it.
Speaker 1: And so finally we had one. I had one guy
Speaker 1: who's like, you know, that's an interesting idea. Let me
Speaker 1: read it. And he read it, and you wanted to
Speaker 1: do it as a TV series. We thought, oh man,
Speaker 1: this is amazing, is exciting. He wants to do the
Speaker 1: TV series, and so we pursued that, and about four
Speaker 1: months later, the writer they had on it he jumped
Speaker 1: off and went on another project and we had to
Speaker 1: wait for him. And then another six months went by,
Speaker 1: and then his TV show got picked up and he
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. So it kind of fell apart a
Speaker 1: little bit. And then you're like, man, I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to go, and it's just again you're looking
Speaker 1: at the universe to co manifest with you, and you're like,
Speaker 1: why would you send me down this path? And I thought,
Speaker 1: and give me hope and then take it away, you know,
Speaker 1: And then you're like, all right, well, you know. I
Speaker 1: went to the writer. I said, look, we could wait
Speaker 1: another six months for the writer we have something in
Speaker 1: hand here, or we could take it back from them
Speaker 1: and start over. But it's not easy if we start over,
Speaker 1: and I'm praying that He's like, no, let's keep it
Speaker 1: with them, you know, because we have something tangible. And
Speaker 1: he goes, no, let's let's take it back. And I
Speaker 1: was like, ah, okay. So I went back and said,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're going to take it back. And
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, after you're taking it back, I
Speaker 1: don't think this movie's going to go because like we
Speaker 1: had it like set up somewhere, and to reset it
Speaker 1: up somewhere is just you know, and I've had already
Speaker 1: exhausted a lot of avenues and thought, I don't know
Speaker 1: who to give it to next, dude, And again you
Speaker 1: let go and you give up to you know, the universe,
Speaker 1: and I gave was that a meeting and I pitched
Speaker 1: it and they said, oh, yeah, that sounds interest let
Speaker 1: me read it. A month later they read it, they
Speaker 1: were like, you know, we really like this and we
Speaker 1: want to make it with you, and we have a
Speaker 1: deal with Lionsgate and maybe this company called Kingdom fill
Speaker 1: is like, I think we could we could make this work,
Speaker 1: and we love the project in the book, okay, And
Speaker 1: within two months we had a deal signed with them.
Speaker 1: And then COVID hit oh and like everything shut down, right,
Speaker 1: It's like April May twenty twenty. And in a weird way,
Speaker 1: it helped us because they were all the studios were
Speaker 1: shut down. Lionsgate was like, you know, we can't make
Speaker 1: any movies, but but there are all these big movies
Speaker 1: they wanted to make, and this one had a cast
Speaker 1: of like six seven eight people. It was a smaller,
Speaker 1: you know. And I said, well, why don't we make
Speaker 1: this one over here, because maybe we could try to see,
Speaker 1: if you know, quarantine and make sure nobody gets sick
Speaker 1: and use it as a model to see if we
Speaker 1: can make movies during COVID and test every every you
Speaker 1: know day, and and so it got moved up to
Speaker 1: the front of the line and we were the only
Speaker 1: movie shooting during COVID in like November twenty twenty. Every
Speaker 1: other studio was shut down. The only other movie being
Speaker 1: made was Overseas. It was I remember it was Mission Impossible,
Speaker 1: the Mission Impossibles we made and my movie, and I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, this, but I started realizing Wow, the
Speaker 1: timing of it was like on a like you said,
Speaker 1: it was on a universal plan. It wasn't on my time.
Speaker 1: It was on its time because it had to go
Speaker 1: through the experience of getting set up through the TV show,
Speaker 1: getting held up, being pulled in, falling apart, getting put
Speaker 1: in this person's hand, my Vehdan's not reading it for
Speaker 1: three months to get to the point of that moment
Speaker 1: where that film company got it in its hands, read it,
Speaker 1: and then COVID happened. Timing wise, exactly when it when
Speaker 1: it was supposed to a Ford this movie. You know,
Speaker 1: it was horrible for everything else, but for the movie.
Speaker 1: It sped things up, and then it was made at
Speaker 1: a time when it was supposed to be made, and
Speaker 1: then it was like on a universal you know path,
Speaker 1: and then and then it got held up after it
Speaker 1: was made. It was testing in the nineties and they
Speaker 1: were about to put it out and all the theaters
Speaker 1: shut down because of another way, the COVID. So they
Speaker 1: could have just thrown it out there and said hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we have the posters upward. But instead they
Speaker 1: were like, no, we really believe in this movie. We're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna pull it from you know, We're not gonna,
Speaker 1: We're not gonna release it. And this was in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two maybe and uh, and so they pulled it
Speaker 1: from all the theaters and I was like, man, we
Speaker 1: were about to go and and we had posters in Europe,
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, but I'm not never wavered.
Speaker 1: I remember the writer of the book calling me and going, hey,
Speaker 1: this is not good. I said no, I said, this
Speaker 1: is on universal like time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Everything that had to happen had to happen for a reason.
Speaker 1: This is a blessing. For whatever reason it is, it's
Speaker 1: a blessing. Then new people came into Lionsgate. They were like,
Speaker 1: should we release it on videos? Should we release it
Speaker 1: in theaters? And that got held up, and now it's
Speaker 1: finally coming out. And I truly believe that this movie's
Speaker 1: such a powerful film, has such a beautiful message. I
Speaker 1: remember watching all my kids and they hugged me afterwards
Speaker 1: and like that that's beautiful and like and and it's
Speaker 1: a healing movie, like it really heals, Like you feel
Speaker 1: so much more connected to your family and like you
Speaker 1: just want to go out and love people. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I think it's coming out of time when we need it,
Speaker 1: and it's on the universal time, and when it comes out,
Speaker 1: I know what's going to do well because because it's
Speaker 1: supposed to come out when it's coming out, which is
Speaker 1: in February, so look for it in February. It's called
Speaker 1: The Unbreakable Boy stars Dak Levi, Megan Fayhee. I have
Speaker 1: a partner too. My main function was really like producing it,
Speaker 1: so I'd like a fun you know, roll in it.
Speaker 1: But it's mainly exactly by making faith. But you'll enjoy it,
Speaker 1: like it's a movie that you'll go bring a box
Speaker 1: of tissues, but in a good way, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: That sounds awesome.
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that story, and you know what,
Speaker 2: if it means anything to you, Peter. After spending three
Speaker 2: days with you and then watching like the first forty
Speaker 2: minutes of on Fire. I definitely felt that same vibe
Speaker 2: like knowing you as a person and then watching on Fire,
Speaker 2: I felt that you. I felt a part of your
Speaker 2: personality in that movie, like just I don't even know
Speaker 2: how to explain it, just the way the family is,
Speaker 2: the way your character was. He was this kind of
Speaker 2: like gentle loving father. You know, he's you know, Dad's
Speaker 2: up there now, he's you know, just the things he
Speaker 2: would say. I could feel that you had a hand
Speaker 2: in crafting that. So I know Unbreakable Boy has to
Speaker 2: be you know, on that level. I'll be watching it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, absolutely kill watching that sounds amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the trailer. I thought it looked it's
Speaker 2: incredibly wholesome, and you know, if anything, I will be
Speaker 2: supporting you no matter what.
Speaker 3: You know, the story of it all coming together is
Speaker 3: really cool and inspiring too. That's that's awesome. I will
Speaker 3: be watching that. We should watch it together, make a
Speaker 3: night of it. Yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 2: It comes out just a few weeks, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: do you have a da mind or do you know that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I know it's February. Let me let me look
Speaker 1: at the calendar, really good.
Speaker 3: And we'll break out the popcorn. We'll all uh, we'll all.
Speaker 1: Well, the beautiful thing is it's it's it's in theaters,
Speaker 1: so you go runs it. Because there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of movies anymore that you like go to theaters to see,
Speaker 1: unless they're Marvel. But this is a movie like you
Speaker 1: could go with your friends and family and go, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the beautiful movie that I want to go
Speaker 1: see on a big screen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's fun to it's fun to go to the theater.
Speaker 1: I'm sad. I'm guilty too. I don't go as much
Speaker 1: as I should or used to, and but this is
Speaker 1: one of those that you want to go see on
Speaker 1: a big screen.
Speaker 3: You know. I've been going a lot more lately, so
Speaker 3: I would definitely grab a seat in the theater for
Speaker 3: this one, no doubt.
Speaker 1: The premiere is February, like eighteen nineties, so I'm guessing
Speaker 1: it's it opens on the twenty first.
Speaker 3: Okay, sweet, I'm.
Speaker 1: Guessing if it's. If it's not, that I'll let you
Speaker 1: know so you can put the right you know.
Speaker 2: Well, the trailers out, the trailers out, so I'm.
Speaker 1: The premiere is usually the premiere is the week of
Speaker 1: so I would say, if the premiere is on the Wednesday,
Speaker 1: then the twenty first is probably the opening opening weekend
Speaker 1: in theaters. In theaters every time.
Speaker 2: First, I love that you're an actor and like your
Speaker 2: whole life is movies. And you just said, whether you
Speaker 2: know it or not, you said, I feel guilty. I
Speaker 2: don't go to the theater as much as I should.
Speaker 2: It's funny, like it feels guilty about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I want to support, but I know
Speaker 1: how hard it is, because like I have hard to
Speaker 1: get to the movies, and he's like, and I have
Speaker 1: the giant TV. So I like being on the cover
Speaker 1: of my own home. But oh yeah, there's something about
Speaker 1: going to a movie where it's like, again, it's this
Speaker 1: consciousness of many people getting together for an experience. Right,
Speaker 1: So when you go into a theater and like there's
Speaker 1: this experience where you feel the energy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And so it's wonderful to go and have
Speaker 1: that experience when it's like action and covers flipping and explosion,
Speaker 1: the people flying and you get that adrenaline. But it's
Speaker 1: also beautiful to go there and feel like the love
Speaker 1: on the screen and then this love, this kind of
Speaker 1: radiate through the audience and then you hear somebody kind
Speaker 1: of crying because it's so beautiful, and then it makes
Speaker 1: you weep too, and like to have that that communal experience,
Speaker 1: and a movie that's that's moving is a really beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: So definitely check it out in theaters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I one thousand percent.
Speaker 3: Well we're there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're there. And I do have to say earlier
Speaker 2: when we were talking about you were giving an answer
Speaker 2: to my original Twilight question, what's it like, you know,
Speaker 2: and you were like, Yeah, when people approach me, I'm this,
Speaker 2: I'm that. Da da da da. I can honestly vouch
Speaker 2: and say that that is true, and that's very inspirational.
Speaker 2: I have always I find a lot of similarities in myself,
Speaker 2: but on a smaller scale with like you and Brad
Speaker 2: and even Dax, like all three of you guys, I see,
Speaker 2: I see like a miniature version of myself and you guys.
Speaker 2: And something you you did that was so funny to
Speaker 2: me that you have no clue how funny this is
Speaker 2: to me and my sister and to Jenny is we
Speaker 2: were at this airbnb. We all stayed at this airbnb together.
Speaker 2: The listeners probably don't know this. Me, you, Brad, Dax,
Speaker 2: my mom, dad, sister, my brother in law, Jenny, and
Speaker 2: then another friend of ours. We were all at this
Speaker 2: airbnb for like two days and we're scouting the airbnb.
Speaker 2: It's like this four story mansion on the beach. A
Speaker 2: friend of ours was generous enough to hook it up
Speaker 2: and we go upstairs and we're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: here's the Twilight Books. And me and my sister and
Speaker 2: Jenny and Jack were kind of giggling like how funny
Speaker 2: would it be if we got them to sign it?
Speaker 2: And we went downstairs and we're like, Dax, Dax, look
Speaker 2: what we found. We found the Twilight Books. Dax is
Speaker 2: his cousin, right, Dax giggles, how funny would it be
Speaker 2: if he signed it?
Speaker 3: We gotta get him to sign it?
Speaker 2: And he signed it. He signed it was it was
Speaker 2: Twilight and New Moon. And we left them on the
Speaker 2: coffee table in the living room. So we were hoping
Speaker 2: that the host of the airbnb would find the copies
Speaker 2: with his signature, because it's like, how cool is that?
Speaker 2: But you didn't have to do that. You don't have
Speaker 2: to do things like that, But.
Speaker 1: I think it's fun I think it's fun to do.
Speaker 1: It's funny. I just hope they are like, why do
Speaker 1: you desecrate my books?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I definitely like, who's who scribbled these name in my book?
Speaker 2: Carla I definitely had that same thought too, like what
Speaker 2: if they're like, whoa, you wrote my book? Like you know,
Speaker 2: like we bumped into my cousin at Harris Teeter and
Speaker 2: he just walked right up to her and he's like, hey,
Speaker 2: nice to meet you, and you know, super friendly and like,
Speaker 2: I I appreciate about that.
Speaker 1: You everybody knows, you know, my work or anybody like
Speaker 1: my my wife has to be like hey, don't you
Speaker 1: know I'll be walking like, don't spit on the sidewalk,
Speaker 1: people are looking at you. I'm like, sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: really pay attention, Like I'm not walking around thinking people
Speaker 1: are looking because I just kind of lived my life
Speaker 1: and like, you know, I'm not really walking around like
Speaker 1: hey look at me, you know, I just I just
Speaker 1: kind of like, uh, you know, to me, your family
Speaker 1: is like my family. I walked in and you guys
Speaker 1: were cool and and we all bonded and we were
Speaker 1: all kind of hanging out in the airbnb together, you know,
Speaker 1: so I remember we were fighting over when we got there.
Speaker 1: There was like the big bedroom and then there's the
Speaker 1: bedroom that was like the small bedroom that had like
Speaker 1: one bed in it. And I was the first one
Speaker 1: was like, hey, Brad, take the big bedroom. I'm bunk
Speaker 1: with my cousin, you know what I mean. I need
Speaker 1: the big bedroom. So, like, you know, it's all we're
Speaker 1: all we're all cut from the same Adams, as they say.
Speaker 1: But you know, like we talked about that too. I
Speaker 1: always look at it like if you as far as
Speaker 1: like how we're all kind of connected, right, Yeah. I
Speaker 1: always think if you take a graph paper, a box
Speaker 1: graph paper, and it's a plane box graph paper, and
Speaker 1: then I draw an image of you, and then I
Speaker 1: draw an image of me, Uh, we look separate because
Speaker 1: now there's an outline of us, right, But behind that
Speaker 1: pencil drawing, we're still a part of that grid on
Speaker 1: the on the on the graph paper, we're just the
Speaker 1: graph paper grid. So even though we're separate and you're
Speaker 1: having your experience, I having my experience, and you guys
Speaker 1: out there are having your experience, we're all the same.
Speaker 1: We're all cut from we're all made out of the
Speaker 1: same Adams. We're all made out of the same universal source,
Speaker 1: the same consciousness, and uh and so we're all having
Speaker 1: this collaborative experience together. And I'm just I guess it's
Speaker 1: my way of saying thank you for having me on,
Speaker 1: thank you for your audience, for you know, indulging. I
Speaker 1: don't have all the answers, but I'm I'm looking for
Speaker 1: them like you guys, and I'm excited to be here
Speaker 1: to participate in any discussions to try to figure it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, and I just also want you to
Speaker 2: canit or too. Like where I'm coming from, where for
Speaker 2: many years people were not so nice and they were
Speaker 2: so you know, you're crazy, you're on drugs, you're demonically possessed, YadA, yadayada,
Speaker 2: and people didn't want to listen to Where now I'm
Speaker 2: having this weird shift where it's like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: such amazing people are just sort of coming into my life.
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, here's Peter, he's a really good
Speaker 2: friend of mine. You know, he's in Twilight. Oh here's
Speaker 2: Brad he makes movies. Oh here's so and so he's
Speaker 2: in NASA. And it's like it's this kind of humbling
Speaker 2: thing for me that I have to remind us, like
Speaker 2: when when you're so when you're so just true to yourself,
Speaker 2: but who yourself is is just such a nice person.
Speaker 2: It does more for me than you know. It's like
Speaker 2: it's almost like it's almost like in a way that
Speaker 2: this is all worth it, This was all bad and
Speaker 2: all to know that, like there's so many people out
Speaker 2: there from so many diverse fields and backgrounds that are
Speaker 2: are on the same quest, that are on the same
Speaker 2: path and are into the it's the same, you know,
Speaker 2: and and seeking having this experience with us, it's it's
Speaker 2: like a big reality check for me, like, no, it
Speaker 2: is all worth it, and you're not crazy, and you
Speaker 2: know you're you're actually pretty cool, and you know you
Speaker 2: have cool friends and and and I could.
Speaker 1: Vouch I can vouch for that you are cool.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, well you're you're cool too, man, and and
Speaker 2: and the guys I do the show with are cool.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I'm really surrounded by cool people
Speaker 2: all the time, and and that goes a long way
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: So thanks.
Speaker 1: But you know, like I said, my dad, with the
Speaker 1: great fortitude, the apple doesn't fall for from the tree,
Speaker 1: So you having that fortitude and that like, you know,
Speaker 1: the fearless, unwavering of going No, I my dad saw
Speaker 1: what he saw. I saw what I saw. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep going. And then you're rewarded with people going. You know,
Speaker 1: they stop treating me like the person with the tenfoil hat,
Speaker 1: and they start really listening to what you're saying, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And uh and and I and
Speaker 1: I'm happy that that shift is has happened for you.
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm I'm happy that more people are actually
Speaker 1: open and experiencing things and seeing things. And you know,
Speaker 1: none of us can say what they are. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have our theories, but but I think one day,
Speaker 1: hopefully we will understand a lot more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Well, oh my god, Like I I
Speaker 2: feel like that's just a beautiful spot to close. Do
Speaker 2: you guys have any awesome.
Speaker 3: Thank you so so so much for coming on. Peter,
Speaker 3: You're amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, awesome.
Speaker 3: It was nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been great, so much for coming on.
Speaker 2: My closing remarks, Okay, this is going to be slightly controversial,
Speaker 2: but you know, strap In, I'm team Edward.
Speaker 3: I'm team Jacob. I have to say I just watched
Speaker 3: them movies. I just watched them for the first time,
Speaker 3: like a month ago or a couple of months ago,
Speaker 3: which was insane because two weeks later after I finished,
Speaker 3: Ryan was like, oh, we might be meeting Carlisle from Twilight,
Speaker 3: and I was like, what, I just watched those movie
Speaker 3: he's for the first time. Uh, but yeah, Edwards are creep. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I know, he's like kind of yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go team Carlisle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course carl.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 3: Ironically, my wife and I while we were watching we
Speaker 3: were like, Okay, there's there's two characters in these movies
Speaker 3: that are actually like really dope. Charlie and Carlisle. Those
Speaker 3: only two characters.
Speaker 1: That are like I think Charlie's a little doper because
Speaker 1: he has the cooler mustache, but but I was always
Speaker 1: jealous of Charlie's stash.
Speaker 2: We were talking about this just like two days ago.
Speaker 2: But like the reason that Carlisle and Charlie are such
Speaker 2: good characters because it's like, hmm, I wonder what would
Speaker 2: be these perfect dad figures written in a romance setting
Speaker 2: for teenage girls to relate to. Oh yeah, carl like
Speaker 2: they're perfect. They're like the perfect you know, romance dads.
Speaker 2: They really are cool obviously Team.
Speaker 3: Carlisle, Yeah, Team Carlisle, you know, Team.
Speaker 2: Colin, you know. And I'm right there, like I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, just go ahead and turn me bro, like,
Speaker 2: just get.
Speaker 1: It over with. If we could only live forever, that
Speaker 1: would be wonderful, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in all seriousness, for real, thank you, Peter.
Speaker 2: This has been a blast.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me on. Guys, do
Speaker 1: it again. I'd love to do it again. Let's let's
Speaker 1: stay in touch and have follow up conversations and uh
Speaker 1: and just try to figure it figure it all out together.
Speaker 2: I love that man. And we're gonna have dax On soon, like.
Speaker 1: Two three weeks. Will be fun. He's super fun.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So our tradition is we just say bye guys at
Speaker 2: the same time. It's not that deep. It's just something
Speaker 2: we've been doing for hundreds of episodes.
Speaker 1: You ready, yeah, wait, maybe it should be because Bled
Speaker 1: so said, so let's let's run that. Let's run so said, so.
Speaker 2: Hang on the line when we when we say the
Speaker 2: bye thing. So we anyway, so you ready, let's let's
Speaker 2: let's do.
Speaker 3: We're gonna say, We're gonna I'm gonna say why, Bled said,
Speaker 3: Let's do it?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Ut bonies.
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