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<v Speaker 1>The Earth is the pale blue dot, a precious planet

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<v Speaker 1>in enterpse stellar space. Opinion has caused more trouble on

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<v Speaker 1>this little Earth than plagues or earthquakes. A quote from

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<v Speaker 1>the philosopher Voltaire thirty three minutes after the hour in

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<v Speaker 1>our theater to mine and on stage, doctor Christian Christine Gulay.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the director of the center. Director that is

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<v Speaker 1>for the Earthquake Science Center of the US Geological Survey.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to the website USGS dot. God, doctor, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being with us. This is awesome because so many people,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, have questions about the unknown, what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>here on the Earth. Let me throw this out there

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<v Speaker 1>because I think this is interesting. I've read that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no possibility of having a ten plus earthquake due to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the fault length would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>at least this what nearly stretched the entire planet. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that true? You cannot have earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 2>In the ten Yes, And that's the question I used

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<v Speaker 2>to ask in my mid term exam them on straight

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<v Speaker 2>why a magnitude ten is not possible? You are absolutely correct,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's a good time ting to mention magnitude.

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<v Speaker 2>People still use the term rictor magnitude, and the rictor

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<v Speaker 2>magnitude was developed in the thirties was very useful, but

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<v Speaker 2>has its limitations, and we don't use that type of

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<v Speaker 2>magnitude anymore because basically it cannot characterize any earthquake above

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<v Speaker 2>six point five or so it's saturated, it doesn't so

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<v Speaker 2>we simply use the term magnitude sometimes moments magnitude. I

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to throw that out there because you're the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the lights. If you describe that, it would

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<v Speaker 2>literally a ninety ten would need to basically rupture the

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<v Speaker 2>whole earth to be impossible. But I well, all half,

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<v Speaker 2>all half, then well if half of it is broken,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's a very good point. I'm glad you found that.

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<v Speaker 2>But doctors, guy, I want to resk it something your

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<v Speaker 2>first scholar asked if New York City is prepared and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the details. I'm blundy, you're not female,

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<v Speaker 2>You're not female, No, exactly. At the same time, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a big city to deal with other disasters, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they have a preparedness level there.

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<v Speaker 1>For Well, we hope, so, doctor, we hope.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 1>But later in the show, I want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>another area of expertise, and that talks about in the

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<v Speaker 1>simplistic way. We'll save it for later if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind about building constructing buildings and how to at least

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<v Speaker 1>want put them up to special code as best as

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<v Speaker 1>we can in areas that obviously could drop them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a ton of rocks. And that's a fascinating story.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, doctor, this theater of the mind

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<v Speaker 1>is getting very very popular because you're on the air

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<v Speaker 1>with this. Let's go to line number one. We have Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been patient in Arizona. You're on with doctor Goulay.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you, Gary, And good evening, Doctor Sky and

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Goulay. My question is really not specifically about earthquakes,

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<v Speaker 4>but it breaches reaches out brought more broadly to your

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<v Speaker 4>interest in natural disasters. So it has been said that

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<v Speaker 4>the United States has more natural disasters and any all

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<v Speaker 4>the countries combined around the globe. So I'd like to

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<v Speaker 4>know what your thoughts are about that interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a different twist on a subject that we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>but it kind of relates to it. So Doctor, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty interesting what Gary's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very interesting. I have a checked to all

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<v Speaker 2>the natural disasters and how you define them. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that when I think about all those natural disasters. Of

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<v Speaker 2>course equakes is my focus, but all of them. But

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<v Speaker 2>the most important thing I think for people is know

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<v Speaker 2>what you can do to prepare for them. Right for earthquakes. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>we know to prepare in places where it shakes more often.

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<v Speaker 2>We have earthquake kids and all that. But even in

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<v Speaker 2>New York, if you're there, if you're in Michigan, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're anywhere in the US and the earth starts shaking,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what to do? What can you do

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<v Speaker 2>to prepare?

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I'll be honest, there is I could give

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<v Speaker 1>a litany of things here, but I'd rather hear what

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<v Speaker 1>you have to say because you know, let's put it

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<v Speaker 1>this way, food, water, you have to have an escape

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<v Speaker 1>or go bag. You need to have something and may

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily mean that you're able to drive somewhere because

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that disaster. I mean, what else would you say

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<v Speaker 1>to this audience? Gary brings up something very powerful? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>preparation is the name of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>The most important thing. If you start, if you feel

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<v Speaker 2>shaking and or you feel something you don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is it is and it's shaking. The first thing

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<v Speaker 2>is to protect yourself. Go load to the ground. The

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<v Speaker 2>tagline is drop, cover and hold on. Low to the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>so you don't like fall over and saw on. So

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<v Speaker 2>you drop on your knees if you can. Ideally you

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<v Speaker 2>go under a sturdy table. So you drop, you cover,

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<v Speaker 2>you cover yourself. You hold on to your leg of

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<v Speaker 2>the table. There's no table around. Drop in the corner

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<v Speaker 2>of the room. Put your hands behind your neck and

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<v Speaker 2>protect your neck. Most people will get hurt by falling

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<v Speaker 2>objects and so on. Sometimes people want to run out

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<v Speaker 2>of the building. Sure by running out, your trip, your fall.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a large earthquake, it's going to make you

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<v Speaker 2>stumble and then and then you hurt yourself and objects fall.

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<v Speaker 2>So if there's one thing people can learn, the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is that when an earthquake happens, it's so sudden, it's

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<v Speaker 2>so violent, it's so distressing that people panic and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to do. If you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing is drop, cover and hold off.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, you know, doctor that not to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the side. But it's interesting. During the Cold War, we

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<v Speaker 1>were told in the event of the nuclear attack, tuck

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<v Speaker 1>and cover. That's a whole differ story. Gary. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>still with us, you get an opportunity to respond back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're still there, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think in regarding natural distastors in Gerald today we're

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<v Speaker 4>hearing a heightened alerts and more reports about earthquakes, particularly

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<v Speaker 4>in California now, so there seems to be an increase

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<v Speaker 4>in activity over there, seismic activity. I could say that

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<v Speaker 4>seems to be a concern for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>on the West coast.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Thank you Gary in Arizona for joining us in

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<v Speaker 1>the Theater of the Mind, bringing the best guests, obviously to

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<v Speaker 1>the table and to the theater about the things that

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<v Speaker 1>they know about the great mysteries of the universe that

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<v Speaker 1>we have. Let's continue, Doctor you become very very popular here,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're realizing just how popular because we have

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<v Speaker 1>like a full board of callers and our job, my

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<v Speaker 1>everybody on. Let's go to line too. Welcome Tony in Clifton,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. You're on with doctor Gulay.

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<v Speaker 5>How are you, Tony, Hi, Doctor Sky, Hi, doctor Gulay.

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<v Speaker 5>What an interesting topic you know. I am in a Jersey,

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<v Speaker 5>So I think about hurricanes and I also think about earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I was on the phone that night with Doctor Sky.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like shortly after we had it. We were

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<v Speaker 5>all talking about it. It was someone on WBC, so

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<v Speaker 5>WABC is always there for us. But I was reading

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<v Speaker 5>that there are some scientists that are doing research in

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<v Speaker 5>the connection between earthquakes, and it's not they're still researching it.

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<v Speaker 5>So they say earthquakes could disrupt the Earth's crust. And

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<v Speaker 5>there have been some earthquakes that have happened and they

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<v Speaker 5>list them. You know that there was a they came

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<v Speaker 5>after or coincidentally with a hurricane, and I think this

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<v Speaker 5>is fascinating. Can you talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Before you respond? Here, sorry to cut everybody off. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to mention something about the power of AM radio.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember there was a big petition to try to

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate AM radio. So in the event of these type

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<v Speaker 1>of disasters, man made disasters, natural disasters, what would people

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<v Speaker 1>turn to. What they did was the AM frequency much

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<v Speaker 1>very much more reliable than many people's estimation. But Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, but doctor please continue. I'm sorry to cut

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<v Speaker 1>everybody short, but the power of AM radio is important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's important. It's definitely important. And if you can,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to be ready for it, not just earthquakes,

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<v Speaker 2>but other natural disasters, you can get those crank radios

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<v Speaker 2>right that don't be power and your your AM radio

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<v Speaker 2>will work and you'll have information. So in general, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>is happening in terms of weather and all that, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't tend to impact earthquakes. Earthquakes again, happen deep in

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<v Speaker 2>the cross forces that happen over hundreds and thousands of years,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's stresses that really build inside the planet and

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<v Speaker 2>that that really that that really shaped. So what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in the atmosphere doesn't tend to impact earthquakes. People still

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<v Speaker 2>do research on this. I've not found that there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a compelling evidence that there's a systematic effect with anything

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<v Speaker 2>related to weather or storms and earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, doctor, you bring up something, and Tony brought

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<v Speaker 1>it up just as powerful that everyone within the sound

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<v Speaker 1>of this host boys and other great stations and other

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<v Speaker 1>great hosts is that you need to have a preparation plan.

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<v Speaker 1>And here do I say, what do I say? I

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<v Speaker 1>do it myself, whether we're here in Arizona, What food, water,

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to communicate. Let's say your cell phones go down.

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<v Speaker 1>Are those little handheld personal little like walkie talkie radio

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<v Speaker 1>is important? Absolutely? Would they be overwhelmed with people on

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<v Speaker 1>those frequencies, don't know, But an action plan that you

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<v Speaker 1>would have not to be paranoid and right, Tony, you

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<v Speaker 1>get the last word. I mean, this is powerful stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and preparations the answer whether with these earthquaces, it.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the answer. And also I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of false information. So I'm so glad that doctor lay

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<v Speaker 5>you clarified that for me that when I see a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of hurricanes, I don't have to like stress about earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a big stress releaser.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you don't have to go to do not go

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<v Speaker 1>to Costco or the big box stores in anticipation for

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<v Speaker 1>toilet paper when you know that everybody is going to

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget the dollar sixty two or dollar fifty hot

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<v Speaker 1>dog and drink. But do that in a day that's

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily about a panic or a big crisis. The doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>we're coming up on the break here, and I keep

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<v Speaker 1>saying it always seems like we have a break and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good thing because you know what it means

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<v Speaker 1>that we're moving through time and space and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of interesting people that are on the line. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to you. If you're on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>like line three, ist Do in New York, Line four

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<v Speaker 1>Christine in New York City, Line five all in New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>east Side. Will do our very best to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and thank you once again for spending time

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<v Speaker 1>with us on your weekend on the Doctor Scotty Experience.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back forty eight minutes after the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Casey reminds us to shake our booty howe propos when

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about earthquakes. But on the serious note, our

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<v Speaker 1>very special guests of the two hours is doctor Christine Dulaye,

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<v Speaker 1>the Center Director the Earthquake Science Center of the US

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<v Speaker 1>Geological Survey. Doctor I thought, playing that KSE thing is

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<v Speaker 1>putting us in a little, you know, a little light

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<v Speaker 1>mode too.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say, It's a happy it's a happy

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<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't Quebec to smort of New York, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It is very distressing and I want to acknowl so

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we want to maintain the seriousness about this. But

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<v Speaker 1>the lines are lighting up here. You're just incredible here

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<v Speaker 1>as far as popularity line number three, he's been patient

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<v Speaker 1>still in New York City. You're on a doctor Gulan,

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<v Speaker 6>A good morning? Actually it's still reads huge, but it

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<v Speaker 6>and I checked into it, and there is a fall

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<v Speaker 6>I understand you're going to get into this later. What

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<v Speaker 6>if Manhattan were ever had a giant earthquake, consider a

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<v Speaker 1>So I get it correctly. They were telling me it's Stu.

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. You know this is fascinating, but you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to something before the doctor responds. The

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<v Speaker 1>love and depth of animal perception cats and dogs, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you think, doctor, they also have some kind of very

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<v Speaker 1>amazing ability to sense these type of events. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the earth frequencies, this is what you was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's really revealing their earthquake. What say you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the animals feel earthquakes, we do as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is that there was actually a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of studies done in the seventies to try to correlate

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<v Speaker 2>animal behavior with earthquakes. The thing is, animals behave in

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<v Speaker 2>odd ways so for so many different reasons that we

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<v Speaker 2>cannot correlate that. But some animals feel things more than others,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can feel the beginning of the earthquake before you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very sensitive personally, and when an earthquake happens in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of then I wake up and screens the

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<v Speaker 2>earthquake and my husband said no, and then it's part shaking.

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<v Speaker 2>So some people, some animals detect more than others.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick as we discussed the can happen anywhere, and in

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<v Speaker 2>New York it's more rare. It's every couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>or so that you have a small magnitutor, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>it can happen. That's that's a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. Christine joins us online four in the theater

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mine. Good morning, Christine, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 8>Rning everybody. I had some weird experiences very recently. If

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<v Speaker 8>I may, I'm going to speak fast. I can squeeze

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<v Speaker 8>him in. There was a an earthquake in Granada, Spain,

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<v Speaker 8>the same day an earthquake in Indonesia. There was an

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<v Speaker 8>Islamic tower. There was a friend of mine who just

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<v Speaker 8>and Mount Etna. The volcano blows up right in front

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<v Speaker 8>of them. Then there was a few more things. I

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<v Speaker 8>went to see a friend. I had to cancel the

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<v Speaker 8>meeting with him because I said, there's going to be

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<v Speaker 8>some tornadoes and I don't want to get caught in

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<v Speaker 8>the tornadoes. The next day there are tornadoes also there

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<v Speaker 8>was a recent volcanic eruption in Guatemala. I don't know

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<v Speaker 8>the results of that, how strong they were.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of them, but it's just.

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<v Speaker 8>Happening all over, like the Granada Indonesia, one with two

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Christine, let me, yeah, let me ask our guests this.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of limited time here, doctor, so you can address

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<v Speaker 1>Christine she's I mean, you can address what Christine is

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<v Speaker 1>saying too, about in your opinion, are we seeing more

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<v Speaker 1>earthquakes by what measure?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it just a matter that we have better

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<v Speaker 7>So?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we detect more today, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I know that this year there's more

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<v Speaker 2>and more people asking me, is there more large magnitude

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<v Speaker 2>earthquakes in general? Every year? Yeah, it's a very good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year, we can expect around the world to have

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<v Speaker 2>bit more. This year we've had eleven. Okay, we're jely,

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<v Speaker 2>we're in We're in August eleven. It's not out of

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<v Speaker 2>their ordinary. You know, in twenty ten there was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four above seven. So it's normal the thing that we

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<v Speaker 2>hear more about earthquakes when their current near population, when

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<v Speaker 2>they cause damage, when they cause death, and we've had

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<v Speaker 2>a few of those that had big impacts on people,

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<v Speaker 2>and so then they become more prevalent in the news

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<v Speaker 2>and people recognize them and think, oh, there's more earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's not more earthquakes. It's about about the in average,

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<v Speaker 2>the same roughly every year, and again in the time

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<v Speaker 2>span of earthquakes a year, that tiny fraction of time.

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<v Speaker 2>These things developed over hundreds and thousands of years. So

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<v Speaker 2>right now I don't I don't see that there's more earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a period last year in California where there's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more, but it happens we're all overall,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not There's not a big difference, you know that

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<v Speaker 2>that we can speak of. It is like, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's exactly the crux of our one. We wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to find out if there is a higher instance, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've kind of calmed us in that as we get

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<v Speaker 1>into our number two in just a few moments. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's rare to have one. To Christine's on at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. So Christine in New York City, a quick

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<v Speaker 1>follow up if you do, because we're going to the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the close of hour one. Have you still

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<v Speaker 8>Go ahead, Hi, Hi, doctor Christine. This is a fascinating

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<v Speaker 8>subject and so many things that seem to be happening

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<v Speaker 8>so close together. But the thing that really freaked me

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<v Speaker 8>out with my friend coming back from Sicily having seen

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<v Speaker 8>Mount Etna, the terrible volcano explode. He had to get

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<v Speaker 8>a different plane because it ruined his chip home. Amazing,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's a big one, Edna.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Christine in New York City, thank you for being

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Doctor's Guy experience. I appreciate you as

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<v Speaker 1>I want semi regular caller and hopefully you'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>go out and get one the best guest we can

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<v Speaker 1>in these subject matters the great mysteries of the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Christinea in New York City. Doctor, this is

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<v Speaker 1>something fascinating. And see how fast an hour goes when

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<v Speaker 1>you're having fun. Yeah, So in our number two, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's so many questions and by the way, ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen, if you're still on the line, like Paul

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<v Speaker 1>best to get you on, of course, in our number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Your patience is greatly appreciated here and for everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to do in US one eight hundred eight

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<v Speaker 1>four eight nine to two two one eight hundred eight

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<v Speaker 1>of numbers nine two two two WABC. So in hour

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<v Speaker 1>number two we'll take your calls and obviously talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about these mysteries, the great mysteries of earthquakes, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dorectory if we go back into biblical stories eschatology of course,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the end of times Greek for the expression

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<v Speaker 1>last things. Again, many people that are extremely religious have

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<v Speaker 1>the things here that occur on the Earth, from asteroidal impacts,

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<v Speaker 1>giant earthquakes, volcanoes and other amazing things. Here we want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep not only our eyes to the sky and

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that as we close out hour number one,

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<v Speaker 1>a little live sky update. We have a partial lunar

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<v Speaker 1>eastern daylight time. Look to the moon, the full Sturgeon

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern daylight time, and the whole thing ends sacred geometry

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<v Speaker 1>at one fifty one am Friday, the twenty eighth. Convert

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<v Speaker 1>your time zones across the nation. The planet Venus is

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that people call the UFO, but it's really

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<v Speaker 1>a major planet, the goddess of love and beauty and

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<v Speaker 1>Saturn high in the southeast at eleven PM. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see it with the naked eye. But oh boy, imagine

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<v Speaker 1>what you'd see if you had a moderate science telescope.

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<v Speaker 1>One eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two.

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<v Speaker 1>And again our special guest, as we move into our

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<v Speaker 1>number two, doctor Christine Doulay, the Center director for the

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<v Speaker 1>Earthquake Science Center of the US Geological Survey, And you

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<v Speaker 1>can check that website out. We have other websites we

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<v Speaker 1>to know about building big buildings, doing it by code

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<v Speaker 1>to mitigate the devastating effects of earthquakes. More on the

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Skuying experience in our number two.

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<v Speaker 3>Flock Radio seventy seven WABC, WABC New York, wrc R

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<v Speaker 1>The universe is living inside you. You're on the Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Sky experience. As we move to the top of our

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<v Speaker 1>number two, as we say moving through time and space,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Doulais is our special guest and what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>as always is your connection to building risks and what

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<v Speaker 1>happens with buildings today. That's another area of expertise. Describe

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<v Speaker 2>So we know that earthquakes bring shaking, and shaking is

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<v Speaker 2>different than just the natural loads that we have. It

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<v Speaker 2>shakes in three dimensions. It's left and right and up

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<v Speaker 2>and down. So that creates as you can imagine it

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<v Speaker 2>generates a lot of forces on buildings, so they need

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<v Speaker 2>to be designed more safely. So there's building codes that

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<v Speaker 2>get updated regularly, and there's different techniques that are used

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<v Speaker 2>to make buildings safer and so over the years, over

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<v Speaker 2>the use of the building code improves, the newer building

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<v Speaker 2>tend to be more resilient to earthquakes. The goal of

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<v Speaker 2>the building code is to prevent collapse, and one thing

428
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<v Speaker 2>that people don't tend to realize is that, well, something

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<v Speaker 2>built to code doesn't mean that the building is usable

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<v Speaker 2>after an earthquake. It can be damaged beyond retair. The

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<v Speaker 2>goal is to save lives, so to really reduce the

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<v Speaker 2>chances of collapse. But after that maybe it's too damage

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<v Speaker 2>and needs to be torn down and rebuilt, so not on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the purpose of the building code is really to

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<v Speaker 2>save lives, not necessarily to make a building last forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Am I correct doctor in this assessment. I've read somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't see where I read this, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of my head that on certain tall

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<v Speaker 1>superstructure buildings they have this gigantic weight or something up

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<v Speaker 1>on the very top of the building, not outside but inside,

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<v Speaker 1>so that when the building's way by wind. Describe that?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I correct in this? Am I describing it correctly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it exists. It's called the act. There's active or

444
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<v Speaker 2>fastest tune dampers, so it's a massive There's one that

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<v Speaker 2>you can find videos that are amazing online in Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the Taipei Tower and maybe I got

447
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<v Speaker 2>the If you just search Taiwan earthquake damper, people find

448
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<v Speaker 2>that there's videos of that. Yeah, so some some are

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<v Speaker 2>so you have the weight on top to to to

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<v Speaker 2>reduce the motion on top because the building it shakes

451
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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom, but the waves move and it wants

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<v Speaker 2>to make the top move a lot. And so these

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<v Speaker 2>big masses, some of them are are are moved and controlled.

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<v Speaker 2>But just the fact that you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>weight on top, it reduces the motion on the top

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<v Speaker 2>and so and it's also useful for those very it's

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<v Speaker 2>all buildings when there's a lot of wind because people

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<v Speaker 2>it sometimes gets sick even from the motion in thongs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, never thought about that. And look at Bill's

460
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<v Speaker 1>big structures like the birds Khalifa. I mean in other buildings,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like they're continuing to build I've read somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Saudi Arabia is looking to build a building.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what well upwards I think of, even like a

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<v Speaker 1>half a mile. Maybe I'm incorrect, but I hope they're

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<v Speaker 1>paying strict attention to what's under that ground. Obviously, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to the callers. We continue line number two. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been patient Paul in New Jersey. You're on with doctor Goulay.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Go ahead, Paul. If you're with us, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not making contact, Paul. We're going to move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to line number three. Stu's been patient in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on with doctor Goulay.

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<v Speaker 9>Hello, Yeah, he's eating doctor. After the last time I

473
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<v Speaker 9>sailed past the Azores, we had no Surmarnis and there

474
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<v Speaker 9>was a very famous s Knew Me that wiped out

475
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<v Speaker 9>Lisbon a couple hundred years ago. So question one, what

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<v Speaker 9>sort of seismic activity does it take to trigger that

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<v Speaker 9>type of event? And question two is the children of

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<v Speaker 9>Crackataa as they called in Indonesia, why do you do

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<v Speaker 9>a repeat performances blow up again? Which would be very

480
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<v Speaker 9>saying because I love savatric coffee and the impact I

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<v Speaker 9>like it too, would be consider it right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's interesting, doctor. He brings up some very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>points about I guess what would take what type of

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<v Speaker 1>an event, size of Richter scale earthquake would of course

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And about Krakatoa of the past. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Krakatoa. I mean it could it could erupt again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an active volcano that was a massive, uh eruption.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't know the average recurrence of the eruption,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's active, so it could it erupted again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's incredible. But also, Stu, I want to add

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<v Speaker 1>in the doctor I think has a lot of information

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<v Speaker 1>on this, more so that the loudest sounds in the

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<v Speaker 1>world that was ever recorded. And this is again with

494
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<v Speaker 1>primitive interest. This is incredible, Doctor. It stated here and

495
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<v Speaker 1>I've read this. I'm not reading this. I'm just remembering it.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Over three hundred plus decibels was the loudest sound. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the story. A British ship was passing forty miles

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<v Speaker 1>away from Krakatoa and ear drums were blown out, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean punctured. Can you imagine a sound, Stu, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>still with us three hundred plus decibels on the scale.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine the energy that came out of Krakatoa. And you're saying, doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>what it's still an active volcano.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, Yeah, that was massive, and it's true what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying. There's a lot of very interesting videos that

505
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<v Speaker 2>explain how this also, you know, show how the Earth

506
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<v Speaker 2>is a globe and how the sound and the waves

507
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<v Speaker 2>traveled around the world multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very interesting, totally amazing. And another event that happened

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<v Speaker 1>here and I'm not reading this, is that we had

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<v Speaker 1>the amazing submarine volcano a few years ago, and that

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<v Speaker 1>particular the submarine volcano in the South Pacific that sense

512
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<v Speaker 1>shockwaves around the Earth. Can you imagine being there do

513
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<v Speaker 1>actor near those islands? And that was the Hunger Tounga

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<v Speaker 1>submarine volcano. That is incredible. So the Earth, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it this way, as it's said many times,

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth, for all the beatings it's taken over the

517
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<v Speaker 1>course of history, you know, geologic time, it has a living,

518
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<v Speaker 1>breathing entity inside of it that keeps us going. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a reason to pollute the Earth, but certainly something fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go with the callers again, Line number four. Benny

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<v Speaker 1>in Bayside. You've been patient. You're on with the good

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Gulett. Benny's gone. Let's go to line number five.

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<v Speaker 1>How about Nick in Virginia. Nick, you're on with doctor

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<v Speaker 1>gula Good morning.

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<v Speaker 10>Good morning, Doctor Scott and doctor Gulay. I have some

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of concern actually about politics interfacing with science

527
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<v Speaker 10>and somewhat distorting it. I'll give you an example. There's

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<v Speaker 10>been a lot of underwater volcano underwater volcanic action in

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<v Speaker 10>the oceans, and that's heated up the oceans. But it

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<v Speaker 10>seems like the CO two and the Sun is getting

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<v Speaker 10>blamed and that's driving cars or getting blamed for the

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<v Speaker 10>earth heating up. And I'm not so sure that's true science.

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<v Speaker 10>But when I hear commercials on the radio that are

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<v Speaker 10>that are in disguised as public service announcement saying, well,

535
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<v Speaker 10>the Earth is running out of natural resources and in

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<v Speaker 10>thirty years we'll need three times you've got. I've lived

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<v Speaker 10>a long time and I've seen these hoaxes, and I'm wondering,

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<v Speaker 10>Doctor Scott, you and your guest, how concerned are you

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<v Speaker 10>about politics entering the world of science and influencing people

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<v Speaker 10>to stam six feet apart and wear a paper mask

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<v Speaker 10>and you know that's none of it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Nick, it's another subject. But I'm with you, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously gain of function is the thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about a long long time ago and people

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<v Speaker 1>are still talking about it. And what's interesting about that

546
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<v Speaker 1>the intercession of science and politics. Well, let's help we

547
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<v Speaker 1>don't get another repeat performance of what we had with

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID situation. But doctor, if you want to comment

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<v Speaker 1>on that, that's a little out of the realm of

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<v Speaker 1>what we were talking about. But hey, Nick, you bring

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<v Speaker 1>up something very positive, go ahead. Doctor. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to take a told him you we used to stab

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<v Speaker 1>at that shake on that one, go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, science is not politics and it's not related.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the scientists at work and that I work

556
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<v Speaker 2>with and that I know, really the goal is always

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<v Speaker 2>to find the best science, the best knowledge, and with

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<v Speaker 2>with data that is ver verifiable and all that. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>these things are completely separate. Science informs us and really

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<v Speaker 2>helps society be safer, and it's really important that we

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<v Speaker 2>continue to do science.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I mean, it's look at what happened again. Not

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<v Speaker 1>to be overly repetitive, I think you're saying it very well,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick in Virginia, that when that happens, that's a really

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<v Speaker 1>amazing collision course. And I think if we can try

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<v Speaker 1>to separate that, But the bigger point is right doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>and right Nick in Virginia. But can't we all just

568
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<v Speaker 1>simply get along? Wouldn't that be a great, a great

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do? That I saw this planet with about

570
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<v Speaker 1>what eight point seventy five billion souls running around as

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<v Speaker 1>we had with some of the better voices than mine,

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<v Speaker 1>or those little pieces that you hear right after the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minute mark of the show, after the heartbreak you

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<v Speaker 1>hear about the pale blue dot that Carl Sagan talked

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<v Speaker 1>about eight point seventy five billion people sitting on that

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little sliver and that tiny little round ball. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of positives that can come out of that

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of all getting along. Well, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>about at the next break here, But doctor, I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about something when we come back, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is not to forget the December twenty sixth, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and four Sumatra, Indonesian quake, and also what seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to got more coverage on that was the entire tsunami

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<v Speaker 1>and that a totally devastating thing. You see the water,

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<v Speaker 1>what people are on the beach, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the telltale signs of a tsunami. What the

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<v Speaker 1>water gets pulled out and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing comes through. And I can only imagine, God

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<v Speaker 1>bless those that lost their lives in such a horrific thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What an amazing story. Isn't that something else? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>tsunamis are just off the charts, totally incredible. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, still time to get in on the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation one eight hundred and eight four eight nine two

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<v Speaker 1>two two as we continue to talk with doctor Christine Goulay.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't forget check out these websites. I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>a couple really quickly here.

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<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to learn about builders risks in certain areas,

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<v Speaker 1>you can put your address in there. It's called us

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<v Speaker 1>seismicmaps dot org. Us seismicmaps dot org and so many

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<v Speaker 1>other great websites like FEMA dot org. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at earthquake hazards and without a doubt, go

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<v Speaker 1>to USGS dot gov. Doctor will be right back in

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<v Speaker 1>our last break as we move through time and space,

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<v Speaker 1>concluding our number two of the Doctor Scully Experience. Forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven minutes after the hour, we continue. We bring Carl

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<v Speaker 1>and line three in New Jersey to the microphone in

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<v Speaker 1>the Doctor Sky theater of the Mine. Good morning, Carl,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on with doctor Gulai. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Doctor Sky and Doctor Galley. I have a question,

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<v Speaker 3>and the question is there a direct connection between volcanic

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<v Speaker 3>activity and earthquakes? And and so what is that connection?

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<v Speaker 7>Doctor?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we lose you for a moment?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I'm sure, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear the question from Carl.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Go ahead, I'm sorry, Yes, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 7>Clear you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So they are connected the whole concept of the tectonic place.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And we talked about the subduction zone where the ocean

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<v Speaker 2>cross goes under the the the continental cross. You will

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<v Speaker 2>see that most of the volcanoes, not all, most of

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<v Speaker 2>them are along that that subduction zone. These things are related,

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<v Speaker 2>they all work together. The volcanoes are are are are

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<v Speaker 2>related to the all the dynamic fluid motions and and

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<v Speaker 2>the conveyor belt we discussed at the very beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the show here and so they are related. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's my very uh ineloquent short answer. But yes answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the answer. Thank you, Carl and Jersey, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry to cut you off, doctor, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get as many people in there. They've been

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<v Speaker 1>patient Line number three. We welcome Tom and Long Island. Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, you're I'm a doctor Gulain.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi question is we know every action has a reaction,

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<v Speaker 7>and I recall the owner A. S. John Kenneth. Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 7>I said that the oil is basically a fluid that

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<v Speaker 7>lubricates the Titanic plates. Now, if we take too much

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<v Speaker 7>oil out, leaving the Titanic place below a level that

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<v Speaker 7>makes a lubricant, could this cause more earthquakes?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 7>Do we see so many countries around the world pulling

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<v Speaker 7>out this crude oil?

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<v Speaker 1>Low? Tom, that's pretty powerful, pulling oil out of the

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<v Speaker 1>earth as a lubricant. What does that do? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>any scientific signs to that, doctor?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what we definitely see more earthquakes where we do

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<v Speaker 2>oil exploitation and whenever we touch the cross So there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's been increase in seismic activity and to access Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 2>and other places. Same thing when we do geothermal this

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<v Speaker 2>is something we study. We call that induced earthquakes, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that we measure as well, and we

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<v Speaker 2>study them. And there's been a increase in the earthquakes

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<v Speaker 2>when the production increases. That's just a general trend and

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<v Speaker 2>but those things are monitored and we keep an eye

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<v Speaker 2>on it. And then yeah, the humans can can create

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<v Speaker 2>some level of earthquakes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's neat, Tom, Thank you so much, very inspirational. There

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<v Speaker 1>about something I had no idea of and you bring

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<v Speaker 1>that to the audience. Thank you for your participation. We

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<v Speaker 1>close out the show. Hopefully we have more time in

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<v Speaker 1>the future to talk about the subject. And we'll ask

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<v Speaker 1>the Good Doctor later if she'll rejoin us as time

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<v Speaker 1>goes online. Number four, Kevin and the Long Beach. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been patient. You're on with doctor Gula.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Hey, great Joe. Thanks to mister Cassmithides and

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<v Speaker 3>his wife were a great network to do this. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>almost happy he's not Mayor. I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 3>would have done ABC Quickly. Time is running out the

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<v Speaker 3>Yellowstone buffalo or leaving and the animals, and they say

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<v Speaker 3>there's things with Yellowstone. Second thing is is there anything

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<v Speaker 3>with the alignment of full moons that create that. And thirdly,

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<v Speaker 3>and most importantly, one of the evidence that they say,

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<v Speaker 3>and they say it would have registered. If two one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and ten story buildings went down, there would have

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<v Speaker 3>been a seismic register. And since it disintegrated into thin air,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one of the theories of nine to eleven. Can

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<v Speaker 3>you answer that first? And then because they say that

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<v Speaker 3>is a hole.

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<v Speaker 1>In the story, So I guess you're asking, Kevin, was

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<v Speaker 1>that when the buildings came down on nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>did they create a seismic wave? Is that what I'm hearing?

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<v Speaker 1>And the good doctent good?

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<v Speaker 3>Then, but there was there was no seismic wave, and no.

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<v Speaker 2>We can we can measure that anything from building falling down, explosions, mining,

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<v Speaker 2>all those things are detected by by by the seismic

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<v Speaker 2>networks and they can be measured. Indeed, Yeah, m hm.

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<v Speaker 1>And your first point, Kevin, I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 1>heard it clearly, but police continue before the clock runs out.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your second I mean your first concern? You?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the first concern is all the animals leaving Yellowstone. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 3>the any any full moons have an effect. And thirdly,

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<v Speaker 3>there was no seismic detection of those buildings coming down

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<v Speaker 3>because they disintegrate into thin air, a scientific impossibility, and

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<v Speaker 3>the story is a false story.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin, thank you for your information. Good as we close

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<v Speaker 1>out the show, Doctor, this is interesting about as we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about animals and perception of what they can feel,

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<v Speaker 1>and they know things that we don't and they feel it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's a very interesting thing. The moon, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>has some tug on the earth we know astronomically because

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<v Speaker 1>of tides. How do you respond to those?

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<v Speaker 2>So it does have a tug and it creates some

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<v Speaker 2>some pressures. As you know, we do have the sides

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<v Speaker 2>and they're due to the moon, but we've not seen

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<v Speaker 2>a correlation, and it doesn't it doesn't act in a

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<v Speaker 2>systematic way that suddenly we can see a difference in

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<v Speaker 2>earthquakes because of that, So that's not something that we've

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<v Speaker 2>been able to observe. Animals feel things, but they're not magical.

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<v Speaker 2>They react to things, so they may sense vibrations and

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know if they're leaving Yellowstone, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>aware of the animal behavior, but certainly animals react to

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<v Speaker 2>the environment if it feels shaking or something unusual. They

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<v Speaker 2>will they will try to get away from what appears

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<v Speaker 2>to be express its survival instincts, and I think we

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<v Speaker 2>will do the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin and Long Beach, thank you. I appreciate your contribution

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. Let me ask this because we only

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<v Speaker 1>have a few minutes. Your description of December twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four so much or the Indonesian earthquake.

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<v Speaker 1>I always saw this as what more of the impact

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<v Speaker 1>of that was the tsunami and it went far and wide.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing, yes, so yeah, that that I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>earthquake itself was the eight hundred miles long, and it

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<v Speaker 2>moved in several several feet in different places. So imagine

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<v Speaker 2>that eight hundred miles and you move, you move under

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<v Speaker 2>you moved the floor of the ocean by several feet.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's generated just big waves and of course those

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<v Speaker 2>that were very close and then that actually received the weed.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing that happened is that the ocean receded.

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<v Speaker 2>We often see that it's the opposite of the tsunami.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the waves come in and there's multiple waves.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just one and and they're not waves.

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<v Speaker 9>It's really it's really.

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<v Speaker 2>The ocean moving in and then but then it moves

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<v Speaker 2>away and it can reach far lands. And when it's

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<v Speaker 2>traveling in the very very deep ocean, you don't you

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<v Speaker 2>might not even see it at the surface. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's very small, like it it's not, it's not, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very small, but it it travels at the seed of

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<v Speaker 2>an airplane, and it travels super fast. And when it

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<v Speaker 2>reaches the shore and it becomes shallow, the water needs

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<v Speaker 2>to go somewhere, so it rises and it lifts up.

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<v Speaker 2>It becomes this big, massive, uh wall of water that

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<v Speaker 2>that reaches on land. And yet it was absolute devastating.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the March eleven, twenty eleven, that one, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>a powerful nine something on the scale. There's also I

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<v Speaker 1>saw videos of this. I never knew that. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was just the damage was the earthquake itself, the shaking.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also a lot a very powerful tsunami. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean describing that it was going higher than a ten

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<v Speaker 1>story building. That's just it's hard to even imagine that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor, Yeah, it is hard and the nature is powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>So those two events were very traumatic and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people lost their lives. That's very sense, that's very yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very sad and.

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Earth is very resilient. Not a reason to pollute

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<v Speaker 1>our planet. But obviously through dinosaurs, asteroidal impacts of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>moving out dinosaurs and different species, all the extinction events

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<v Speaker 1>on the Earth. Obviously, as Carl Sagan said, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to cherish the pale blue dot because we haven't found

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<v Speaker 1>anything like it right doctor out there in the deep universe,

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<v Speaker 1>at least at this point in time. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other subject. We wrap it up with you. You

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<v Speaker 1>get the last word. We got about it minute and

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<v Speaker 1>a half and tell us how can people get in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with you if there's another way? Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>direct link to you off of USGS dot go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they can. They can find me on the by

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<v Speaker 2>looking for my name and the USGS and you'll find

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<v Speaker 2>a lake there to reach out to me. One thing

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about preparedness, not just for earthquakes. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of things people can prepare for. If

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<v Speaker 2>you go to Earthquake Country dot org, that's a place

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<v Speaker 2>where it's really focused on earthquake preparation. There's earthquake kits,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's true for storms, lots of power and all

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<v Speaker 2>apples there's there's a lot of ways you can get

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<v Speaker 2>prepared and be more ready for these things and and

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<v Speaker 2>and know what to do if it shakes. Drop copper

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<v Speaker 2>and hold on, protect yourself and go on the USGS

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<v Speaker 2>website and fill out the did you feel it survey

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<v Speaker 2>to tell us how it helps for you and what

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<v Speaker 2>the shaking was like. And we use that in addition

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<v Speaker 2>to instruments and real, you know, scientific data, we use

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<v Speaker 2>thank your information to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>A privileging honor to have you. I hope you'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back again as we talk about this as the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>continues to amaze us deep from within the Earth. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time doctor here USGS dot gov, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank you for spending time with us in

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<v Speaker 1>your busy schedule. I know you were recovering from some

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<v Speaker 1>temporary things going on there and it's now it's been

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<v Speaker 1>made possible, So thank you for joining us on the

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Sky experience.

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<v Speaker 9>Appreciate, thank you, and thank you to your callers.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, what a wonderful time. More information, folks, as we

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<v Speaker 1>continue to talk about what's happening the live sky. As

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, a rather deep partial lunary clipse. This is

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<v Speaker 1>plus ninety percent don't forget Thursday evening, August the twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll start to see this eclipse. The beginning of partiality

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<v Speaker 1>is nine to twenty three pm eastern daylightfetime. Maximum of

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<v Speaker 1>the eclipse moves on to Friday February twenty eighth, twelve

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<v Speaker 1>twelve A, So if you wanted to see the best

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<v Speaker 1>of this, that's when it would happen eastern daylight time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again to our helmsman Bill and Jackson, and stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned to seventy seven WABC for another side of Midnight

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<v Speaker 1>with Lionel as he takes us to the break of dawn.

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<v Speaker 1>As we move with light speed through the month of

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<v Speaker 1>August twenty twenty six, more of these great subjects, mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe and mysteries of the mind. We hope

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<v Speaker 1>you learned something, and that's our goal. We'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit a short time there we in

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Clear skies and good health as we say

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to this audience.
